On today's show, Lt. Col. Anthony Schaefer joins us via Skype from Ireland to discuss the release of the WikiLeaks video of the 2007 attack on a Reuters reporter and the lack of accountability from the U.S. military for the incident.
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00:00:39.000Anthony Schaefer is a Bronze Star recipient with more than 25 years of experience in the intelligence community, including directing the Defense Intelligence Agency Task Force Stratus IV.
00:00:48.000Under his lead, Stratus IV conducted some of the most daring and innovative human intelligence collection and information operation ever undertaken by the Department of Defense, as well as providing information to support the SOCOM program AbleDanger.
00:01:00.000And currently he is a senior fellow at the External Communications Director of Special Lecturer at the Center for Advanced Defense Studies in Washington, D.C.
00:01:09.000He instructs classes in psychology of terrorism and intelligence analysts, and he's also a contributor to many mainstream television programs out there.
00:01:27.000Getting a few days away before the build-up for the book is probably the best way of describing what I'm doing.
00:01:34.000Well, you're nice to spend time with us on your vacation there on the Emerald Isle.
00:01:40.000Let's start off, there's a lot of subjects to cover with the WikiLeaks video coming out last week with the video of the Apaches and the kids in the van and the Reuters reporter.
00:02:00.000Well, first off, I think that the fact that there was a FOIA in on that video by Reuters, and the Army had resisted releasing it, that was indicative, I think, of what was on the video.
00:02:13.000I don't think people really want to have it out there.
00:02:15.000As I understand it now, the video's been confirmed as authentic.
00:02:18.000And that's the second problem with it.
00:02:20.000I think that it's not so much a problem that the Weekly Leaks folks got it.
00:02:24.000I think it's a fact that the Army didn't stand up at the time this happened and said, hey, some mistakes were made here.
00:02:29.000And let me be clear on why I'm saying that.
00:02:31.000And I'm going to say this clearly as an academic, not as an Army Reserve officer.
00:02:35.000I'm saying this clearly as an academic.
00:02:37.000There are, from my background and experience from having been in combat, My understanding of the rules of warfare, especially in this case, the ROE, the specific rules of engagement for this specific period, which I understand are essentially the ones you can find on the internet.
00:02:55.000The 2006 rules of engagement are still valid for the most part, and this incident occurred in 2007.
00:03:01.000Based on those two factors plus the video, what is seen on the video, there are two clear rules of engagement violations That I can see.
00:03:11.000First, the first clear violation comes right after the attack begins.
00:03:18.000And I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt to the Apache drivers here.
00:03:21.000I mean Alex, there's a lot of things going on and I've been told by both former Bush White House executives and folks who were in Iraq.
00:03:30.000There are things happening before and after that video regarding combat operations.
00:03:34.000Essentially the fog of warfare, the heat of battle, whatever you want to call it.
00:03:38.000Yeah, later in the full video they do find some guys with guns going in a building and they fire a Hellfire missile into it.
00:03:45.000Well, and I've got to say, I've not seen that part of the video, but I'm just trying to make sure that people understand that there were things going on before and after this video.
00:03:53.000So there was essentially an adrenaline rush going on, and I think everybody who was there on the scene.
00:03:59.000So you can't discount that I've been there.
00:04:01.000I understand the fact that you get so focused on what's going on.
00:04:04.000It's hard to take a step back and look hard at what's going on.
00:04:08.000So giving the benefit of the doubt, Alex, to the Apache drivers, They misidentified the Reuters journalists with their cameras.
00:04:17.000So that's the first mistake, and I think that's forgivable by the fact that it was the heat of battle.
00:04:23.000All right, Colonel Schaefer, we got a break.
00:04:24.000We're back in one minute with the next hour.
00:06:38.000But the war zone is a urban built-up area in a major city in Iraq.
00:06:44.000And the Pentagon blocked this being released, and this is the type of stuff that happens in war, in modern war.
00:06:50.000So then you have to ask, is this then a just war?
00:06:53.000And before you go invade a country, and knowing there's going to be this type of collateral damage, you better make sure your nation is under threat.
00:06:59.000We know they lied about WMDs and everything else, but Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer, goes by Tony Schaefer, is our guest.
00:07:11.000Continue with the points you were making.
00:07:14.000I agree with your point on the whole justification of the war thing, Alex.
00:07:17.000You and I have talked about it a little bit.
00:07:19.000I think, frankly, you and I have talked about this, and I'll say it for the benefit of your listeners.
00:07:24.000I think there's other ways we could have taken care of Iraq without a full-blown invasion.
00:07:28.000With that said, though, I think that's a topic for another day.
00:07:31.000Back to this specific video, giving the benefit of the doubt to the Apache drivers in the heat of the moment, I think there could have been justification regarding the misidentification of the bags as either weapons or RPGs, maybe.
00:07:46.000I'm pretty dubious, but let's give them the benefit of the doubt.
00:07:48.000The mistakes I saw, which were the clear violations, Alex, were first off, right after they got clearance to fire.
00:07:54.000Once they fired, they should have essentially stopped then and paused and tried to figure out what was going on.
00:08:00.000And one of the things, one of the clear rules that were broken is it says once someone is down, you quit shooting.
00:08:06.000They didn't quit shooting, they made sure these guys were dead.
00:08:09.000Now as an intelligence officer, I said this on the air, that's stupid.
00:08:12.000As an intelligence officer, you want to capture people to find out what their affiliation is, why they were doing what they were doing.
00:08:17.000Clearly, this was not good common sense.
00:08:19.000This is not something... and frankly, if I were the commander and I saw this on the battlefield, I would have stopped those soldiers right there and either... and done something, because that's not the way you should conduct yourself.
00:08:30.000And this is something I think has become a very big point of contention, which I frankly think is a huge mistake both for the PR war and another clear violation of the rules of engagement.
00:08:41.000When the Reuters reporter was on the ground crawling away, they were waiting, they were trying to egg him on, hoping he'd pick up a weapon.
00:08:48.000As I said before, once a person's down, you're obligated to go in there and render aid and try to capture them and find out what's going on.
00:08:55.000When the van shows up to give him aid, and Alex, I've watched the video at least three times to make sure I understood it correctly.
00:09:03.000First off, if you look at the video carefully, you see people are in the van, and there is no indication from the van at any point in time that it was a threat.
00:09:13.000And this is where it clearly states that you have to have a clearly defined threat before you fire and use deadly force.
00:09:20.000In this case, it was very clear there was no threat from that van.
00:09:24.000That van was there to render aid for that individual.
00:09:32.000Something called AR-15-6, Army Regulation 15-6 Investigative Reports, which are essentially a fact-finding investigation directed by the commander to go through and assess what happened.
00:09:44.000Within the reports relating to this incident, It talks about the fact that there were vehicles out that day, four-door sedans, running weapons to insurgents.
00:09:53.000Well, it's very clear from the video that that was not a four-door sedan.
00:10:04.000I think the ban is very clearly identified as a ban, not as a four-door sedan.
00:10:07.000So, in my professional judgment, both on my experience in Afghanistan, having been in urban warfare, having to make no-shoot decisions, And on the rules of engagement, the two clear violations were continuing to fire once the individuals were down.
00:10:23.000And of course, firing on the van when there was no hostile threat indicated, as a matter of fact, it was the contrary.
00:10:28.000It indicated, for the most part, that those people were trying to render aid to that individual.
00:10:33.000Which, again, as an intelligence officer, they could have monitored that van, they could have followed it, and as you see in the video, U.S.
00:10:40.000forces show up within minutes of the incident to secure the area.
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00:14:31.000For the next 25 minutes, Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer is our guest.
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00:14:42.000He's got a new book coming out very soon that's going to have a lot of new revealing information about how the army was stopped from killing bin Laden and other senior leadership of al-Qaeda in the months and weeks before 9-11.
00:14:54.000Of course, when he tried to testify in closed session to Congress about this, he later got persecuted for it, but that was proven to be a fraud.
00:15:31.000Something the military has never been forced to do.
00:15:33.000You know, some of these guys are coming back and are completely bonkers.
00:15:36.000But I think for the average citizen to see these gun pod footage shows them what is an everyday, you know, thing going on out there.
00:15:45.000And the way people are now disconnected from what soldiers for thousands of years have faced, killing their enemy right up, looking them in the eyes.
00:15:53.000And we see the ground troops show up and they show empathy for the children that are in the minivan that's been shot to hell.
00:16:00.000And then you hear the helicopter pilot and the gunner say, I shouldn't be in a war zone.
00:16:04.000And she's not going to be So we see not just the people on the ground being dehumanized, but we see the people in the helicopters being dehumanized.
00:16:13.000Well, I agree with you, and this is one of those things where, again, if I were the commander and I witnessed that, those soldiers would have been relieved on the spot because, like I said, that is exactly the point.
00:16:23.000All combat, especially the people I've been in combat with, do not conduct themselves in that manner.
00:16:29.000Anytime you have to take a life, you need to be reverent in the fact that you are doing it.
00:16:35.000And, as you mentioned in my book, The Dark Side of the Force is coming out later this year, last day of August.
00:16:42.000And, you know, one of the first incidents in that book I talk about, my first combat convoy, I have to make a choice about shooting or not shooting an eight-year-old kid who throws a Sun Juice empty box in front of the vehicle in front of me.
00:16:57.000And I would have been right to shoot the kid by the rules of engagement, but I didn't.
00:17:02.000And this is one of those things that was a win-win for the Taliban.
00:17:04.000If I shot the kid, that's good because, you know, we shot a kid and that's a score for them.
00:17:09.000And if I didn't shoot him, that makes me less likely to shoot a kid next time if he does have a bomb in his hand.
00:17:15.000So this is the nature of modern warfare.
00:17:17.000It's one of those things where there's no right answers, but if you pick the right If you pick the wrong answer, it's going to be hurtful no matter what.
00:17:32.000That is a brilliant way of displaying information relating to what is really going on.
00:17:36.000This is one of those things, Alex, we have to be better than the adversary.
00:17:40.000If you recall, the Taliban came out with a 29-point code of conduct last year done by al-Baghdadar, who was actually wrapped up recently because he became too pro-negotiating for his own good with the Pakistanis.
00:17:56.000We will never see the Taliban actually execute their operations in conjunction with that 69 point code of conduct.
00:18:05.000This is where we're better than they are.
00:18:06.000And frankly, this is one of the points I'd like to say.
00:18:09.000I'm not speaking for the Army, but the Army and the DOD is actually going to relook this now because it's the right thing to do.
00:18:15.000We need to look at the circumstance of why was it the soldiers were so apt to shoot that day?
00:18:20.000Clearly, it's not only a training issue, it's a psychological issue.
00:18:24.000And let's not forget, Alex, that we have record number of suicides from post-traumatic stress.
00:18:30.000I think this is why you're seeing such a great number of post-traumatic stress issues.
00:18:34.000Because people are not doing the right thing, necessarily.
00:18:37.000Commanders are obligated to train and equip their soldiers to win.
00:18:42.000But then also, they're responsible for holding them back.
00:18:44.000Because, as you point out, Through our history, we have been better than this.
00:18:49.000We're obligated to try to pull people back.
00:18:55.000So we have had a record of people going off the reservation.
00:18:59.000I'd like to believe that's an exception, but we've got to be better about the way we conduct modern warfare because things like this do matter, and it shapes the Al-Qaeda battle space.
00:19:07.000This video will help Al-Qaeda recruit, and we both know that.
00:19:14.000Take a movie like Apocalypse Now with Colonel Kurtz, who's gone completely insane, and so the military sends out a special operator to kill him.
00:19:27.000But now I read John Yoo memos, I read Alberto Gonzalez memos, guys that have never been in the military, never been in combat, and they're saying we can crush children's genitals, we can torture children.
00:19:54.000Why on earth would the Pentagon accept directives from the Bush White House knowing that once this was implemented, this would absolutely destroy morale and turn us into the Nazis in the eyes of the world?
00:20:13.000The answer to your question is within your question.
00:20:16.000I think a lot of those policies were established for retribution more than actual intelligence collection.
00:20:20.000The Army put out a policy a few years ago saying we will follow a very strict regimen of Basically, techniques, non-intrusive, non-violent techniques to break people.
00:20:32.000Again, I cited in my book, there's two chapters about an FBI special agent and I working to interrogate and break.
00:20:40.000I mean, we didn't touch him once, but within three days we were able to break him.
00:20:44.000By use of really good investigative and interrogation techniques.
00:20:49.000And I think, based on my experience, you can get people to talk.
00:21:33.000Well, I think this brings up an excellent problem for the prosecutions we're now going to face for the 9-11 terrorists.
00:21:39.000I mean, I'm sorry, the detainees at Guantanamo Bay.
00:21:42.000Which is similar to anybody who has something to do with 9-11 regarding the techniques you just mentioned.
00:21:48.000Anytime you torture someone, Alex, the fact is this.
00:21:51.000They're going to tell you whatever you want to know to make the pain stop.
00:21:55.000And that's been proven over and over again.
00:21:57.000So again, it's one of those things where I think there are some other very vast techniques.
00:22:01.000One of the 9-11 conspirators were broken by very complex techniques relating to the fact that he was a pedophile.
00:22:10.000So, in this one instance, they used the idea that his personal conduct Was directly in contrast and contradiction to his personal beliefs relating to Allah and his faith.
00:22:22.000So enough of hitting him on that, not hitting him literally, but hitting him with the idea of the disconnect between his personal conduct and his personal beliefs is what broke him eventually.
00:22:34.000You need to get inside these people's heads, these individuals' heads, and break them without touching them.
00:22:39.000So, when you look at the interrogation program, I personally turned down a seat in that program.
00:22:46.000I talk about that a little bit in my book, about being given a tour of one of the secret prisons and then saying, you know, being asked, what do you think?
00:22:53.000It's like, look, I basically said just to read ahead in the book here, I want nothing to do with this.
00:23:01.000I think when you have A policy set up by an administration, Alex, the Army or the military is obligated to follow it.
00:23:08.000And that's one of those things where you have lawyers, hopefully lawyers who are smart enough to understand that you can't arbitrarily decide to start breaking U.S.
00:23:15.000And I frankly read the memos done by the Bush White House lawyers as being illegal, approving illegal activities.
00:23:23.000Which, frankly, you know, we as soldiers are obligated to try to resist illegal orders.
00:23:30.000And you were told that in your training.
00:23:32.000It is your obligation to not follow illegal orders.
00:23:35.000It becomes a very fine line between following orders which are given by lawful authority, which we're trained to do, or trying to find a way to not follow or disabuse yourself of illegal orders.
00:23:48.000Well, I mean, you just talked about it being illegal, and clearly it is illegal on the face of it, and immoral.
00:23:54.000But now we have Obama continuing snatch and grab, more black sites have been exposed all over Europe and Asia.
00:24:01.000We know this is intensifying, not subsiding, and so I guess they got away with it, so now it's secret policy in the CIA.
00:24:09.000Speaking as an academic, every administration who comes in tends to take on the tools which the previous administration used and were successful in using.
00:24:17.000So frankly, you know, I don't believe there's going to be any great difference between the Bush White House and the Obama administration on a number of these policy issues.
00:24:26.000And let's cite, for example, Alex, the Kill Capture program.
00:24:30.000I've said on Fox News a couple different times recently that the Obama administration's been, their default position is killing people.
00:24:37.000And that's something I find totally idiotic as an intelligence officer.
00:24:42.000The idea is you need to capture people and find out what they know.
00:24:45.000So because they don't want to deal with the issues relating to what do we do with detainees?
00:24:50.000Do we put them on trial in a civilian court?
00:24:54.000Because they don't want to deal with that, now the default position is killing people, which you've read about recently with the issue of Al-Awlaki.
00:25:01.000Apparently, according to the news reports over the past two weeks, there is now essentially a death warrant been issued for him to be killed, if possible, by U.S.
00:25:25.000And frankly, the other problem with this is that, in the extremist belief, Alex, Being a martyr is a great thing.
00:25:32.000I think we need to avoid giving them that opportunity to be a martyr.
00:25:35.000This includes Al-Awlaki and this includes Bin Laden, if he's still alive.
00:25:40.000Well, Osama Bin Laden, let's cut right to the chase.
00:25:43.000He trained in the 80s, worked with the CIA.
00:25:47.000We know the Muslim brigades have been used to destabilize countries the West doesn't like.
00:25:51.000They were used against the Soviets, they're being used against the Russians.
00:25:54.000Today, it's a convenient boogeyman out there.
00:25:59.000We know the underwear bomber was allowed on the plane, protected, given a visa by the U.S., an unnamed intelligence agency told the State Department this.
00:26:37.000I had Agent Steakknife on before they killed him a few years ago.
00:26:41.000You know, British Special Forces, Special Air Services assigned to this.
00:26:47.000And he said that the IRA was run by British intelligence as a pretext to radicalize things as an excuse to be in Ireland, especially Northern Ireland.
00:27:24.000But what I will say is that there's clearly, as of late, a tendency to start looking at internal threats more than external.
00:27:32.000Now, I cut my teeth as a lieutenant doing counterterrorism stuff in Germany back in the mid-80s.
00:27:39.000And it was very clear then, and I'm not sure what changed between then and now.
00:27:42.000In many aspects, but I know back then we were very much concerned about the Soviets funding radical groups within Germany.
00:27:49.000As a matter of fact, my first counter-terrorism operations were focused on the RAF sports group Hoffman and things like that.
00:27:56.000Whereas very clearly a third party, a third organization being the Soviet Union, was funding a lot of that activity.
00:28:03.000As noted by the fact that once the Cold War ended, a lot of these groups faded off into the distance and never came back.
00:28:08.000I think that we have to be very cognizant of the fact that there is some real energy being given now to our government looking internally.
00:28:17.000And I think in some cases it is not warranted by the fact that yes, you're going to have veterans coming back who have clear psychological problems.
00:28:24.000But the way to deal with that is by giving them the treatment they need, not treating them as adversaries.
00:28:29.000I think that's one of the things that has been trending lately is to look at people who have come back and have problems as an internal enemy.
00:28:36.000More than that, what are your Pentagon associates saying about the fact that, as you admit, more of this is being swung around internally From my research, I mean, here's an example.
00:28:46.000It came out in the Baltimore Sun that Ron Paul and myself and others, and we ended up getting the secret army document, which they confirmed was real, so those good guys in the military sent it to us.
00:28:55.000that when I go out and have an in the Fed rally, they've got military army intelligence watching me and it says in the memo, don't let them know you're with the army, they may be terrorists and may kill you.
00:29:07.000So they're teaching the army that I'm like some vampire that's going to try to tear their throat out?
00:29:12.000There's a number of legal problems with that.
00:29:14.000One of the things I came up against during Naval Danger, which was the issue of posse comitatus.
00:29:18.000And I think it's a very good law for a number of reasons.
00:29:21.000First off, as you just mentioned, it is illegal for the Army to be augmenting directly civil law enforcement operations.
00:29:30.000So that's one of those things that I know people like Senator Arlen Specter were very much against the idea of allowing folks to be used for purposes of law enforcement, and there's good reasons for it.
00:29:41.000And this is something that harkens back to the 1960s, where it was equally a bad idea then to use military intelligence folks for civil law enforcement, and I think it's the same thing now, if this is going on.
00:29:51.000Now, I don't know of anyone within my circle of associates and friends who have been involved in that.
00:29:57.000It's not to say I don't know what's happening.
00:30:01.000I don't know of anyone of my intelligence friends who have been involved.
00:30:04.000But I know there's been contingency planning done to look at how the military could be brought in to support civil unrest, support the civil authorities during times of civil unrest.
00:30:15.000Now, that's something that I know has been kicked around a lot over the past 30 years, frankly.
00:30:20.000The idea of coming in at a time of crisis to actually... Rex 84.
00:30:25.000I mean, I literally, in the last 10 years, have had guys get out, they're obviously military in plain clothes, and even threaten me in parking lots.
00:30:34.000I have national news everywhere saying I'm calling for violence when I'm not.
00:30:37.000Does it sound to you, Colonel, like they're trying to set me up for something?
00:30:42.000Well, it sounds like any other whisper campaign.
00:30:44.000I mean, Alex, as you know, I was victimized by a whisper campaign by the Pentagon as well when I first broke ranks.
00:30:50.000I think there's something else that you need to look at here regarding the fact that when, you know, there's something called CEPA.
00:31:29.000Because, I mean, it's like a no way out when he's walking along, and who are these guys?
00:31:34.000Well, they're formerly associated with special forces, and I'm just like a regular guy with a family who has a big talk show, but I mean, it's getting really creepy.
00:31:42.000And that's one of those things I think that this is why I spoke out against the use of blackwater contractors as some form of mercenary.
00:31:52.000And this is where there's been a real gray area, Alec, that we have to look at by the fact that I think that there's some real Uh, loopholes that have been used by the military and by the intelligence organizations to hire folks who serve in these roles.
00:32:08.000And for example, in Afghanistan, the CIA, Babatel recently denied it.
00:32:12.000I was there to handle two of the KIAs from CIA who were there as Blackwater back in 2003.
00:32:18.000So there's, this is a loophole that a number of organizations have used to hire people off the street who have military background to do things which I think If they were shown to be, in the light of day, they would be shown to be illegal.
00:32:31.000And this is where people have tried to get around posse comitatus, ways of trying to influence the thinking of adversaries.
00:32:37.000You know, and frankly, some people just don't appreciate people like you and others who speak out.
00:32:42.000And I think that's... But Colonel, now we're learning...
00:32:44.000Well, now we're learning the adversaries are somebody like you or me who just speak out for the Constitution and Bill of Rights as some type of Darth Vader Praetorian Guard.
00:32:53.000And I know a lot of JAG officers who are retired law professors we've had on.
00:32:58.000They're very, very concerned, you know, Atticott from San Antonio and others, but I mean, It's just for the general public out there, I don't think they realize that this whole black op or slash contractor, they may be contractors, are just out there really intimidating people, surveilling people.
00:33:16.000I can't wait till August to have you on to really, really go over the book in detail and I hope people will order it because I know I'm going to read it and it's going to be extremely informative, Colonel Schaefer, but in closing, Shifting gears out to what happened in Poland.
00:33:28.000Do you think it's suspicious that the almost entire leadership of the Polish government's aircraft went down?
00:33:38.000First, you know, it's like the old, whenever someone had a cold in Soviet leadership, you know, that was a bad sign.
00:33:45.000I think, you know, a cold is not a cold when it comes to Soviets.
00:33:49.000This may be something that people need to look at as well.
00:33:52.000From what I understand, the Polish president was very independent, and I think that the fact that everybody went down together in these questionable circumstances, you've got to look at that very hard.
00:34:06.000The Tupelov, which crashed, frankly, has a horrible, horrible record.
00:34:11.000When I flew back from Afghanistan, I flew through Tashkent, and the airline that I was supposed to fly back on flew a lot of those.
00:34:18.000Fortunately for me, they had pretty much grounded all the Tupelovs, and were now using Boeing aircraft.
00:34:23.000So that aircraft by itself has had a hugely poor safety record.
00:34:27.000But it is stupid to put that much leadership in one aircraft.
00:34:38.000Especially when you have basically the entire military general staff, pretty much every major officer within the government and the civilian side.
00:34:47.000You've got to ask yourself, why would they do that?
00:34:49.000Especially with an aircraft, as I mentioned, with that kind of poor safety record.
00:34:53.000Colonel, we've only got one minute left.
00:34:55.000You wanted to make a comment on the bombing in Ireland.
00:34:58.000Well, you know, I think it's, frankly, from what I've seen from being here just a little bit of time, is that there's still a great deal of dissension within Northern Ireland.
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00:38:56.000Colonel Tony Schaefer has been really nice giving us his time.
00:39:27.000We know there's different factions in Saudi Arabia and Princeton, where you've got different princes fighting with each other.
00:39:35.000So we know there's a lot of different groups and organizations, but it just came out last week in federal documents that one of the ringleaders of the Mumbai attack was a, quote, U.S.
00:39:44.000government agent and helped lead the attack.
00:39:47.000And so I keep going back to that over and over again.
00:39:55.000Well, I think we have to look at this realistically because if the intelligence community is doing its job, Alex, they're going to have people who will hopefully have access to the organization.
00:40:05.000The problem is, and this is what's happened with Cap Chapman, I think a lot of the CIA's activities lately have been focused on wishful thinking.
00:40:14.000I think they recruit people thinking they're going to work for the U.S.
00:40:32.000I think that's what we're seeing here where I think it's almost a policy of wishful thinking hoping these guys will really come over and support us.
00:40:39.000And then they get triple-crossed back, essentially.
00:40:41.000Peter Lance did a great book on this called Triple Cross, where it talks about Ali Mohammed.
00:40:45.000That very thing happened there, where the guy was doubled and tripled back against us.
00:40:50.000And I think that's what we're seeing here a lot of.
00:40:52.000And we're not being smart as we should to detect when they've been double-crossed.
00:40:55.000Well, the Arabs are running short on time.
00:40:57.000A few months ago, that CIA base in Central Asia getting blown up, was that a double-cross?
00:41:12.000Well, I think Al-Qaeda is essentially a franchise of terrorism that the radicals within the Muslim community have been able to use to sustain themselves and try and tie together.
00:41:22.000I think, for example, al-Awlaki is really the primary operational leader right now.
00:41:27.000He's the one who's actually able to plan things.
00:41:29.000So I think that he is realistically kind of the lead guy right now in Al-Qaeda.
00:41:33.000I think that's why the focus is so heavy on him.
00:41:35.000He's been able to pick up his franchise and do a lot with it.
00:41:39.000What about Obama saying he's worried about Al Qaeda getting nukes?
00:41:42.000I mean, that sounds as ridiculous as saying Saddam Hussein had nukes.
00:41:46.000Well, I can tell you that there's a great deal of effort going on to look at this issue realistically right now, Alex.
00:41:50.000I think that there's a good potential that that's where they want to go for their next big attack.
00:42:46.000We got Jim Tucker coming up for 30 minutes in the next hour, and then I want to do a video game review, because more and more of these video games have a pro-New World Order or anti-New World Order message, and video games in many cases are bigger than the biggest Hollywood films.
00:43:01.000Some of these video game franchises have made over a billion bucks in the last two years.
00:43:05.000Things like Call of Duty, Modern Warfare, things like that.
00:43:11.000There's an InfoWars.com review of Half-Life 2 that's been out for a few years.
00:43:16.000But in this video game, they have DARPA control towers that mesmerize the public and people are microchipped.
00:43:23.000All of this is what is actually being promoted.
00:43:43.000The most aggressive, rebellious people ever in the history of the world, maybe some of the Greeks were more aggressive, but definitely some of the most aggressive people ever, will suddenly put up with anything.
00:43:53.000Because your food, your water, and other things are being spiked.
00:43:56.000It doesn't matter if you're Colonel Schaeffer, or a cop down the street, or Alex Jones, we're all under attack by this.
00:44:04.000And he wasn't even shocked by the fact that I talk about the Pentagon following us around.
00:44:09.000And going to end the Fed rallies, and then when I go to a Bilderberg meeting, I'm at my hotel five miles away, and the Feds waddle in and say, Jones, let's attack the State Department tonight together.
00:44:20.000I mean, the Feds know full well I'm not going to attack the State Department.
00:44:23.000They know full well I'm not going to attack the police.
00:44:26.000They know full well I'm trying to keep people from getting violent here, and that's what's making them mad, and that's why multiple major publications per day are lying and saying I'm calling for violence.
00:44:40.000And I'm going to get to that in a moment after we take some more of your phone calls.
00:44:45.000It's just driving me crazy to see this happening.
00:44:49.000They changed my computer around where my IMs are under a different icon.
00:45:23.000A couple of years ago, I saw a great documentary on TV about post-World War II Europe.
00:45:29.000And Poland's leader at the time was a very patriotic man, just as this man who died the other day.
00:45:36.000And he was vehemently opposed to the Allies turning over Poland as well as all of Eastern Europe to Joseph Stalin after the end of the war.
00:45:44.000And mysteriously one day he got aboard his plane, which had been tampered with not by the Russians but by the Allies, and it crashed on the island of Malta, killing this man.
00:45:55.000It's now been declassified, uh, that, um, That our own government killed Patton because he didn't want to hand stuff over to the commies.
00:46:05.000And that's what Jesse Ventura was talking about from Fletcher Prouty, the head of Black Ops, in the book The Secret Team, that our government made a deal with the Soviets to divide up the world and have third world intractable wars to build up their own power bases.
00:46:50.000In fact, here's the headline, New York Times, Kaczynski often at a source of tension with the EU.
00:46:56.000And see, Iceland has said no to the takeover.
00:47:00.000Greece is going along with it, only partially.
00:47:02.000But if Poland says no to the banks taking them over and looting them, and this program of austerity, the whole European Union could implode.
00:47:11.000And that's not Alex Jones saying that, that's George Soros.
00:47:14.000So, this is leaning towards it being a blackout by NATO.
00:47:19.000But it could be the Russians as well, or it could be natural.
00:47:22.000Well, I think that our people did him in much as they did the Polish leader in in 1945, who wasn't going to go along with that giveaway of Poland and all of Eastern Europe to Joseph Stalin.
00:47:34.000I mean, we spent 150,000 American lives No, I remember reading about that.
00:47:39.000Adolf Hitler, and then we turn around and give them to Joseph Stalin, that's like trading in syphilis for gonorrhea.
00:47:45.000I mean, either way, you lose, because they were both brutal dictators.
00:48:08.000Yeah, I mean, people ask, why is Alex Jones still alive?
00:48:11.000Well, if they kill me, it just makes all my information and material that much more popular.
00:48:16.000It kind of highlights everything I've done.
00:48:19.000But somebody like a Polish president, who says, I don't like the Russians, but I'm starting to not like NATO and the EU, and you've destroyed our economy with globalization, and we're going to get out of this.
00:48:32.000And they announced that they were going to do that last week, and five days later he's deader than a hammer.
00:48:41.000And as soon as we get a hold of Tarpley in the next few days, we'll get him on to give us his take because he really is an expert in this whole area.
00:48:48.000Let's go ahead and talk to Tom in Texas.
00:48:58.000April 9th of this year, Sheriff Arvin West of Hudspeth County told citizens to arm themselves because we can no longer protect them from spillover of border violence.
00:49:10.000That's the third largest county in the state of Texas.
00:49:13.000Let me stop you because we have an Ohio County doing it and a Michigan County saying arm yourselves.
00:49:20.000But a sheriff, and we've had a lot of South Texas sheriffs on, give me the name of the sheriff because I want to pull an article on this right now and I also want to get the sheriff on.
00:50:18.000Anyway, what I'm saying is he's telling people in that county to arm themselves because you can't protect them anymore.
00:50:24.000Also in the statement he said that Rick Perry had activated the Texas border violence spillover contingency plan in which he requested federal aid.
00:50:37.000Is that all that our government and our governor and the state of Texas is going to do?
00:50:42.000They're just going to let this continue?
00:50:46.000Well, I remember last year, what was the Texas State Senator we had on?
00:50:51.000We need to get him back on, I forget his name.
00:50:53.000He said martial law had secretly been declared last year on the Texas border because they believe Mexico will fully collapse into anarchy because of the drug war.
00:51:02.000If they decriminalize drugs, it would all end, like a storm blowing over.
00:51:07.000The drug war is meant, just like China was brought down with the drug war, it's meant to bring us down.
00:51:12.000And so there's no way they're going to stop.
00:51:14.000But I did get the article, it's a Sheriff Arvin West of Hudspeth County, Texas tells citizens to arm themselves as you can no longer protect them from spillover border violence.
00:51:26.000So absolutely, and that's over on the border in West Texas by El Paso.
00:51:39.000Anything else you want to add, Caller?
00:51:41.000Well, all I wanted to say was, uh, maybe the rest of us start thinking along these lines also because the obvious Rick Perry is not going to do anything and it's obvious that, uh, Barry Satoro is not going to do anything.
00:51:53.000I think he's going to let it get to a critical boiling point and then declare martial law and take our rights away.
00:51:59.000I agree with you, but again, martial law was covertly declared over a year ago, and that was even in some of the El Paso and other west and south Texas papers.
00:52:09.000And I remember six, seven years ago talking about rocket attacks, hand grenade attacks, 17,000 dead this year just on the border.
00:52:16.000I mean, it is just, I mean, once beautiful towns are just boarded up, high rises, totaled, and now It's getting like that in other cities in the state.
00:52:26.000But when there's a car bombing with the Mexican Mafia killing somebody in Dallas, it's a footnote to the Dallas Morning News.
00:52:32.000Meanwhile, I'm here calling for nonviolence in the medias.
00:53:25.000And on the YouTube videos of these local newscasts where the sheriffs are saying, arm yourselves, I see comments going, if we ban all guns, this would just end.
00:55:55.000I'm a little scared about Obama's latest statement About how he is concerned about these, uh, he didn't say suitcase, but essentially suitcase nukes in the hands of terrorists.
00:56:27.000The globalist banks ...are looking at setting off a nuke in this country.
00:56:32.000They will even go that far to get everybody scared, to bow down to Obama and do whatever they say, to then go off and launch new wars to try to get the economy going again.
00:58:03.000A New World Order based upon collective action.
00:58:06.000Invisible Empire is a damning indictment of the globalists through their own words and documents.
00:58:11.000The New World Order really is a tool for addressing a new world of possibilities.
00:58:16.000It means all the world under their control.
00:58:18.000The United Nations would take over America.
00:58:21.000The Trilateral Commission would control the world.
00:58:24.000Invisible Empire chronicles how men of power and influence have worked in stealth for centuries to establish an oppressive world government.
00:58:32.000I believe first of all that we now need nothing short of a world constitution for the global financial system.
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00:58:40.000So it's going to be an inner ruling elite and then everyone else.
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01:00:24.000You are the legitimate American people that are the power, that are the sovereigns in this country.
01:00:29.000Hence, you are the enemy of the bankers.
01:00:34.000And, well, we'll cover this in a moment.
01:00:40.000Then I'm going to continue with your calls and Jim Tucker and I promise to get into all these attacks on free speech and what's happening with the economy and a lot more.
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01:04:47.000They helped to create a new world order We are part of a New World Order.
01:04:52.000A New World Order based upon collective action.
01:04:56.000Invisible Empire is a damning indictment of the globalists through their own words and documents.
01:05:01.000The New World Order really is a tool for addressing a new world of possibilities.
01:05:05.000It means all the world under their control.
01:05:08.000The United Nations would take over America.
01:05:10.000The Trilateral Commission would control the world.
01:05:13.000Invisible Empire chronicles how men of power and influence have worked in stealth for centuries to establish an oppressive world government.
01:05:21.000I believe, first of all, that we now need nothing short of a world constitution for the global financial system.
01:05:27.000Global governance with the establishment of the G20.
01:05:29.000So it's going to be an inner ruling elite and then everyone else.
01:06:15.000After working for various newspapers, Tucker started writing for the Spotlight in the 70s.
01:06:23.000He now works for American Free Press, the reincarnation of that paper.
01:06:26.000Tucker's efforts to infiltrate the 99 Bilderberg meeting at the hotel in Parque Centro, Portugal, were chronicled by British reporter John Ronson in his book Them.
01:06:35.000He's also been in Channel 4's Secret Rulers of the World.
01:06:38.000He published Jim Tucker's Bilderberg Diary.
01:06:41.000Tucker is featured prominently in the film made by paleoconservative Alex Jones, Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement.
01:06:49.000And of course, we are honored to have him with us today.
01:06:52.000He's also featured in the documentary film New World Order 2009.
01:06:59.000And Jim has identified, and he's always been accurate in the past, Jim has identified Builderberg meeting in Spain.
01:07:13.000Now I saw people commenting on Infowars.com last week when some were speculating that it was going to be in England or Spain.
01:07:19.000Now Jim confirmed it's Spain and he's always been right in the past.
01:07:22.000And the Bilderbergs sometimes will rent multiple hotels, put out this info to find out what moles they've got.
01:07:30.000People are commenting, well, why don't they just have it in Japan?
01:07:32.000Why don't they just have it in Africa?
01:07:34.000No, they only have it in Western Europe, the Caribbean, or Canada or the U.S.
01:07:39.000They do three years in Europe, one year in the U.S.
01:07:41.000Three years in Europe, one year in the U.S.
01:07:43.000That's how it's been done since the 50s, and this is the group that set up the European Union.
01:07:48.000This is the group that set up this entire system.
01:07:53.000And so we're working on getting Jim on, and that'll be coming up in the next segment, hopefully.
01:08:00.000I also want to continue with news, but right now let's go back to your calls.
01:08:37.000And I also would like to point out that Mike Meeks, Michael David Meeks is one of the guys... I can speak for him because I've known him for over 30 years.
01:09:27.000We just started digging into the guys that are running... Well look, look, look, look!
01:09:31.000The media is saying I'm calling for insurrection and violence when I'm not, as a way to make us the bad guys and let the system have the moral high ground.
01:09:40.000And the best evidence they've got is the supposed leader, Stone, and he doesn't say anything you should go to prison for.
01:09:46.000I mean, talk show hosts say much more extreme things every day.
01:09:51.000And so clearly this whole thing is a setup to create the illusion there's all these violent militias out there.
01:09:58.000And Mr. Potok, who's certainly welcome to his opinion, why doesn't he come and talk to one of us?
01:10:07.000I'll debate him anytime, anywhere, no problem.
01:10:11.000Well obviously they don't want the truth getting out and they want to continue with the illusion that anybody that criticizes the government is a terrorist that wants to murder people while the government uses more and more force against the citizens every day in this country and gets more and more oppressive and sells us on the idea of police dogs attacking old women at the G20.
01:10:31.000But I'd like to get your name and number and perhaps have you on as a guest to talk more about the Hattari and maybe get some of the other locals on with you that knew some of these people so we can dispel the propaganda.
01:10:45.000But I saw them being set up when that pale horse guy, Sickles, and they admit one of the members is a Fed.
01:10:52.000And I don't know who it is, but I've had my suspicions.
01:14:58.000He's also found where the Trilateral Commission is meeting before that, and we'll find out if he knows what's on the agenda this year and if the Bilderberg boys are mad that their global warming hoax that they plan to fund their world government is in so much trouble.
01:15:19.000That's Thursday, May 6th through Monday morning, May 10th, and that will be in Dublin, Ireland, The jury is in.
01:15:32.000They're staying at Four Seasons Resort, which is a big spa place.
01:15:37.000And Bilderberg's meeting is a month later, in a typical fashion, from Thursday, June 3, until Monday morning, June 7.
01:15:48.000They're meeting in a little town called SITGES, which is about 20 miles from Barcelona.
01:16:02.000And they're sitting at the Ektamar Hotel, which is a big, small place.
01:16:07.000And, of course, we'll be there holding their hands for them.
01:16:13.000As far as their agenda is concerned this year, getting ready to duck heavy on their agenda this year, which is not at all unusual, unfortunately, is their intentions for Europeans and Americans is their intentions for Europeans and Americans to pay higher income taxes.
01:16:36.000Significantly higher income taxes because of their plan to level the world so that the third world countries' federal living rises.
01:16:49.000And so this is what you're getting from your inside sources, and for those that just joined us, Jim Tucker, for more than 30 years has been exposing the highest level of the World Government Crime Council, the Bilderberg Group, 125 of the most powerful people in the world from Western Europe and North America,
01:17:14.000Meeting in secret and the information he's released years before things even happen from Bilderberg Proves the fact that they are governing and controlling our planet to a very great extent now A week ago, you revealed that they are going to push for raising our taxes to the level of France, basically, but to also suppress the third world, but lower us.
01:17:41.000And now that's mirrored by Bernanke saying we've all got to pay more taxes, Volcker saying we've got to have value added and carbon taxes.
01:17:50.000And all the services are being cut, some police departments are firing half their cops, some sheriff's departments more than half, but the taxes go up like a third world nation, everything goes to the bankers.
01:18:03.000Yes, they manipulated the worldwide depression and now they're exploiting it for their own selfish reasons.
01:18:12.000They intend to keep it going for at least until late in the year 2011, late next year.
01:18:20.000And now we have Bernanke telling a private group of businessmen in Texas that these sources are difficult, quote, quote, these sources are difficult.
01:18:30.000It always seems easier to put them off until the day they cannot be put off anymore.
01:18:34.000And he said that we've got to raise taxes and cut services.
01:18:39.000And he said that to a group of businessmen in Dallas, and their job is to be a little mess with your boys and go out and tell everybody.
01:18:48.000in the world that we need to accept it.
01:18:50.000America gets so hungry and so desperate, they'll accept anything.
01:18:55.000But yet, he engineered, he and the other boys, engineered the very financial crisis that they're exploiting, and everything's going according to their plan at this point.
01:19:07.000Jim, what's it like for you to be laughed at for 20 years with the media saying Bilderberg didn't exist, and now the last 10 of that 30, now they admit open news every day, world government, global constitution, private banks to rule the planet with a global banking constitution.
01:19:25.000I mean, now it's right out in the open.
01:19:28.000Well, more so in Europe than the United States because the blackout remains With the major newspapers like the Washington Post, New York Times, LA Times, Associated Press, and the broadcast networks.
01:19:44.000Now there's been more exposure, as you've observed when you attended the meetings, about independent broadcast outlets like yourself, independent radio, TV stations, independent newspapers, not chain newspapers.
01:19:58.000And we had a lot of those reporters out in Chantilly and also a lot in Pitt area.
01:20:04.000Anytime they're in the Western Hemisphere, that is, Canada or the United States, we get a great deal of reporting from these independent outlets, but not from the major newspapers we get a great deal of reporting from these independent outlets,
01:20:22.000they've all attended over the years, including the top networks, broadcast networks, a lifetime promise to reveal nothing, never even use the word Bill Burry.
01:20:35.000Well, Jim, we're seeing a lot of top globalists now calling for censoring the web, ending net neutrality, and basically restricting free speech, England just passed a law.
01:20:48.000A lot of other nations are passing laws.
01:20:54.000Because we see globalist spokesmen at Davos, kind of a public Bilderberg meeting, calling for this.
01:20:59.000What other intel are you getting from your sources is going to be on the agenda at Bilderberg 2010?
01:21:08.000Well, as far as free speech is concerned, they've never had a First Amendment in Europe.
01:21:13.000And, in fact, it's a crime to hurt somebody's feelings.
01:21:19.000Let's see, in the Netherlands and in England and in France and in Germany and other countries, it is a crime to hurt somebody's feelings.
01:21:35.000Of course, in our own country under the First Amendment, I can say the most horrible things about you to you, but if it's not published by, if I'm not saying it to a third party or writing it to a third party, it's not libelous, it's not flatterous, because I've said it only to you.
01:21:55.000But they don't have that kind of, never have had that kind of pre-thought.
01:22:03.000But you were asking more about the agenda this year.
01:22:13.000Even as we speak, the International Monetary Fund, as we've reported for it, is still devolved into the World Treasury Department.
01:22:29.000They're laying down propaganda already.
01:22:31.000Unless we do something to fix our fiscal path, policies that will tilt the curve downward, you'll see these problems come forward, says Ford or Fed economist Michael Mussa, to the Peterson on April 8th, to the Peterson Institute for International Economics, in calling for a tax hike here in Europe.
01:22:49.000And we're hearing from a lot of characters.
01:22:56.000I'm stumbling with my notes here as we speak.
01:22:59.000Well, while you dig around in your notes there, and again, Jim's been fighting these people forever, I mean, it's all over the BBC, London Guardian, Times of London.
01:23:08.000They say, a planetary government with the IMF and World Bank as the global treasury, and the private banks will govern the planet.
01:23:16.000I mean, this is openly being announced, and they say, we're going to raise all your taxes and cut your services, and now Bloomberg reports they're going to take everybody's pension funds and give it to the bankers.
01:23:26.000And if you don't like it, they'll just turn Northcom loose on you.
01:23:31.000Yes, as I said, in Europe there's a great deal of attention to major newspapers for a lot of years.
01:23:38.000In fact, I think I've mentioned so many times before, it was about Helsinki, about 1980-something, and we had in the spotlight the Band-Aid of American Free Press.
01:23:53.000We had the story earlier that year, their exact location.
01:23:56.000And we got letters from Europe saying, of course our circulation is hardly wall-to-wall in Europe, but it costs so much to send it by mail, so one person could share his paper with 10 other people to help out at a subscription.
01:24:10.000So we got letters from leaders saying, should we alert the local media?
01:24:19.000When Kissinger and the other kids got off the airplane at Helsinki Airport and headed for their limousines, they were stunned to see all those cameras and reporters yelling questions.
01:24:32.000And the major newspapers in London and Paris and throughout Europe give heavy page-one attention.
01:24:40.000Photographs, stories, raising the same questions we always raise.
01:24:54.000We identify as many people as we can in case we don't get the official list.
01:24:59.000And, again, before they would deny this, but you would get in there, steal their membership list, expose that a global government group is meeting in secret, and the decisions they make there are implemented.
01:25:11.000And you were saying on the agenda is to continue the global depression so they can consolidate power. - Thank you.
01:25:54.000We're going to break and come back and talk about how they control gas prices.
01:25:57.000On the average, Americans work between 45 to 50 years, hoping to build up enough wealth to retire and live out their golden years.
01:26:05.000Unfortunately, with taxation, the rising cost of food, energy, housing, and medical, many retirees are forced to live below the poverty line.
01:26:13.000Is this a flaw for the enterprise, or is our monetary unit we call the Federal Reserve Note forcing us into perpetual debt, ensuring inflation and higher taxes?
01:26:21.000These questions and more can be answered by reading G. Edward Griffin's book, The Creature from Jekyll Island.
01:26:26.000Congressman Ron Paul states it's what every American needs to know about central bank power.
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01:31:45.000They had the power to do that a few years ago when gas prices were about $5 a gallon.
01:31:52.000The, uh, Bill Burkitt said it's time to, uh, bring down the price of gasoline because Joe Sixpack may not get off of his scooter or his small car, uh, if we don't bring prices down right away because once he gets used to that small car or to his bicycle or motorbike, we may not get him back.
01:32:14.000And they were able to, uh, bring down the, uh, at that time the price of oil was, oh, something like 140-some dollars.
01:32:22.000a barrel, and they brought it down to about $80 a barrel.
01:32:27.000Prices dropped from over $4 a gallon down to less than $2 a gallon.
01:33:38.000Let's see, in 2001, and the Secretary of Defense, Rumsfeld, of course of Bilderberg, promised the Bilderberg that it would not invade this year.
01:33:53.000So, the other newspapers reporting the wars, including the Martian Post, reporting that the United States would invade Iraq in late summer or early fall, at the latest, of 2001.
01:34:06.000We were reporting the oil start until 2002, probably about March.
01:37:03.000A New World Order based upon collective action.
01:37:06.000Invisible Empire is a damning indictment of the globalists through their own words and documents.
01:37:11.000The New World Order really is a tool for addressing a new world of possibilities.
01:37:16.000It means all the world under their control.
01:37:18.000The United Nations would take over America.
01:37:21.000The Trilateral Commission would control the world.
01:37:24.000Invisible Empire chronicles how men of power and influence have worked in stealth for centuries to establish an oppressive world government.
01:37:32.000I believe first of all that we now need nothing short of a world constitution for the global financial system.
01:37:37.000Global governance with the establishment of the G20.
01:37:40.000So it's going to be an inner ruling elite and then everyone else.
01:38:20.000We all know that garden seeds aren't really a food supply, but they're a great supplement to your food reserve if you have the time and place to garden.
01:40:07.000But this is their central mafia godfather commission meeting.
01:40:11.000I don't want to glaze over this, Jim, and then we're going to let you go, because I know you're a busy guy.
01:40:16.000You mentioned on their agenda is the IMF, from your source, this is also now in the news, as the world treasury.
01:40:24.000And how angry are they about their Copenhagen treaty?
01:40:27.000Were the private banks would levy taxes on us and run our lives being exposed by Climategate?
01:40:34.000They're angry if you ever see, hear one word spoken or see one word printed about Bill O'Brien, they're angry.
01:40:42.000They're used to, for 20 years, they're used to absolute secrecy.
01:40:46.000But their commitment to turning the International Monetary Fund into a World Treasury Department is unabated.
01:40:55.000A year ago, in Greece, they came up with that plan to exploit the economic stress around the world to get the world to accept a World Treasury Department, of which the IMF was to evolve.
01:41:12.000And they're still committed to that, even though they were frustrated in their efforts to impose it right away.
01:41:35.000Anything else we should know about this area of Spain or what else is going to be on their agenda or anything else that we know they're concerned about?
01:41:48.000The preliminary information I have about this, Of course, I'll have a lot more when I get there, because now I'm getting a lot of help not only from European newspapers, but from some of the high officials themselves who have come forward privately to provide information.
01:42:06.000So we'll have a lot more as time goes by.
01:42:13.000I've just got exhausted the preliminary information I now have.
01:43:00.000Yeah, Jim's regular phone line, you couldn't even hear him, and then his cell phone, you know cell phones sometimes drop.
01:43:06.000I want to say bye to him, but I don't know how he keeps doing it.
01:43:10.000I mean I saw him a few years ago at Bilderberg in Virginia and he'd be trying to get up out of a chair and his hips were hurting him so bad He's a he's a tough old bird, but that guy that guy just keeps going and he has a lot more energy once he gets to Bilderberg, you know, he Didn't chased around by secret police in Greece.
01:43:35.000That's some amazing footage That's all covered in in-game blueprint for global enslavement and Well actually that part, that's Canada and then Istanbul, Turkey.
01:43:51.000I guess we've got clips of what he's doing in the Obama deception from one of the other Bilderberg group meetings.
01:43:58.000Okay, let me now go through a bunch of news that's important.
01:44:03.000For those out there that don't understand what net neutrality is, net neutrality is the internet as you know it.
01:44:11.000Net neutrality is being able to visit any website you want, you go by internet subscription, and you can visit MSNBC, you can visit InfoWars.com, you can visit BBC, you can visit the Drudge Report.
01:44:23.000You can visit your Little League football team website, you can visit a parks and recreation website, you can visit a dentist website, or a doctor's website, or the Easter Bunny's website if you so choose.
01:44:35.000Now, here is an article Out of executive and management briefing, Comcast's win over FCC reignites net neutrality debate.
01:44:44.000The most immediate ramification of Comcast's net neutrality victory over the Federal Communications Commission this week is that ISPs might feel less inclined not to interfere in the traffic running over their networks.
01:44:54.000However, the implications range well beyond that, coloring every aspect of broadband marketplace.
01:45:00.000Now, this is what China does, but the government is the big ISP basically, over the ISPs, and it decides what you can visit, what you can't.
01:45:29.000Download.com is part of the big happy CNET family.
01:45:32.000Among the available software and peer-to-peer share filing tools, the bill specifically states that websites such as Download.com can be blocked if they're providing tools that infringe copyrights.
01:45:42.000Even legal sites run by CBS that have nothing but legal stuff on there, and they give you tools to download, that isn't allowed in England.
01:45:56.000Most worrying is that the same clause also specifically allows for blocking sites deemed likely to infringe on copyright.
01:46:03.000So, you expose a government document, doesn't matter if the government hasn't challenged it, they say that's government copyright, you won't be able to see WikiLeaks.
01:46:11.000And this is all stated, and it goes on and on.
01:46:14.000So people need to stop living in denial.
01:46:16.000Meanwhile, here's Fox News' Glenn Beck last week.
01:46:23.000And it says, net neutrality pits free speech against free press.
01:46:26.000And he used, in a strawman argument in this article, hundreds of people that have filed with the FCC in briefs for and against ending net neutrality.
01:46:38.000And he used one group out of hundreds that's a Marxist, and says Marxists are running this and that we need to get rid of net neutrality.
01:46:48.000Meanwhile, Fox News, Writes articles and calls Homeland Security on me a week and a half ago because somebody made violent comments on one of my message boards.
01:46:58.000We went to Fox News and found their own pundits calling for violence against Obama and more violent talk all over Fox Nation.
01:47:06.000Needless to say, we did not call the feds on them.
01:47:27.000Court rules against FCC net neutrality arrangements and arguments.
01:47:36.000Now, meanwhile, while we have all of this going on, here's the Wall Street Journal.
01:47:45.000Now remember, I call it propaganda placement.
01:47:47.000It's not just Coca-Cola and Pepsi and Worville Redenbacher popcorn ads that are woven into TV shows themselves and into movies.
01:48:00.000When you're watching a movie and you see National Guard billboards everywhere and Spider-Man or whatever, millions were paid for that.
01:48:08.000Or on The Apprentice, millions were paid per episode to show Virgin Atlantic signs.
01:48:16.000It's not just ads during the ads, it's ads during the show.
01:48:19.000That's how all media is now, because people glaze over a lot of the breaks.
01:48:26.000Now, tens of billions a year are spent on this, and I've been telling people about it, and Congress has ruled it's illegal, and then the General Accounting Office has said it's illegal, but they don't care.
01:48:36.000But now they admit the government is going to be the main advertiser with U.S.
01:50:00.000In just one week on NBC, the directives, the detectives on Law & Order investigated a cash for clunkers scam.
01:50:08.000A nurse on Mercy organized a group bike ride, Al Gore made a guest appearance on 30 Rock, and the office turned Dwight into a cape-wearing superhero obsessed with recycling.
01:50:22.000See, it's just all brainwashing for peer-pressure-run airheads that watch.
01:50:51.000And remember the FCC head a few weeks ago said, we're going to have government messages and government broadcast systems and government messages and TV.
01:52:14.000See, it's this culture of enjoyment that the publishers blind and mindless and mercury's good for me, fluoride's good for me, government my friend, fellow reserve my friend, TV show says so.
01:52:29.000I see these cartoons, countless ones, where the kids have microchips, where world government's good, where the UN's the savior.
01:52:52.000The tactic General Electric Co.' 's NBCUniversal calls it behavior placement is designed to sway viewers to adopt actions they see modeled in their favorite shows and it helps sell ads to marketers who want to associate their brands with feel-good, societally aware show.
01:53:08.000No, see this article itself is deceptive.
01:53:11.000This is all paid for and that's been admitted in congressional reports.
01:53:13.000In fact, Google paid government paid for news ruled illegal.
01:53:25.000I mean, when you see a newscast locally, but it airs in every local affiliate in the country, that mercury is now good for children's brains and has been found to be nutritious.
01:53:35.000I mean, that's a real thing that went out from the CBS Broadcast Center in Manhattan.
01:53:39.000I went and looked it up and it turned out that was a government grant.
01:53:42.000CBS was paid money, and this is the big secret with radio and TV stations, the big local marquee station that can put everybody out of business and can't be stopped and has all the power.
01:53:54.000When you listen to their news, and even their newsreaders don't know this, it's all given to them.
01:54:38.000It's it we live in a total and complete propaganda state and we're one of the few outfits that's gained any prominence that is effective and so the federal government is coming in demonizing The internet, myself and many others to prepare to curtail it and to shut it down.
01:55:02.000And my message to all of you out there is the time to wake up and to realize what's happening.
01:55:11.000You're never safe when the government's got police in black uniforms and black masks and there's cameras on street corners.
01:55:17.000You're never safe when they're secretly arresting people and torturing them.
01:55:20.000You're never safe when foreign banks are looting trillions of dollars a month.
01:55:24.000You're never safe when most of the news and TV is paid for government propaganda and they don't even tell you that.
01:55:48.000They're not running drills all over the country with military running real checkpoints in every state in the union because they want to play patty cake, patty cake, baker's man.
01:55:58.000Roll him up, roll him up, put him in the pan.
01:56:01.000Mark him, prick him, mark him with a B, put it in the oven for baby and me.
01:56:05.000Or however that nursery rhyme goes, you know.
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02:00:21.000We'll be playing some of those throughout the week as well.
02:00:28.000More and more, we like to analyze propaganda here on this radio slash TV show multimedia transmission.
02:00:36.000And we know there's product placement and propaganda placement, behavior placement as the insiders call it, going on in video games.
02:00:44.000Video games are now bigger than movies, bigger than TV, profit-wise.
02:00:48.000And you have some games, tens of thousands, even hundreds of thousands of people playing simultaneously.
02:00:53.000The government's tracking what you do, tracking your psychology, the choices you make.
02:00:58.000This is a psychological warfare dictatorship that we live in.
02:01:05.000But Half-Life 2 came out a few years ago, and I don't play video games, but people kept sending me emails saying, your show's like Half-Life 2, or it's like Metal Gear Solid, or it's like, and I've gone and looked at all these video games now, and it's all, the government's gonna microchip you, they're putting stuff in the water, they're brainwashing you, they're drugging you, a world government's coming, and people say, oh good, they're fighting the New World Order.
02:01:31.000I've talked to some of the game developers now and at the grassroots, they're fans of the show.
02:01:35.000In fact, I've been woven into quite a few major video games.
02:01:38.000I've even licensed it where they can use clips of my voice in some popular games.
02:01:44.000But the issue is that This still just serves to condition everybody, so when I then talk about what's being set up in their plan, this Brave New World, this THX 1138 type society, people say, oh, that's just Metal Gear Solid, or that's just Half-Life 2.
02:02:01.000We've got a video, Infowars.com reviews Half-Life 2.
02:02:08.000But here's a two-minute video he put together, kind of boiling down Half-Life 2, and everything you see in this video is what the UN and the globalist social engineers say they're planning to set up.
02:02:19.000This is how you will live, if they even allow you to live, once their world government is in place.
02:02:25.000This isn't fiction, this is reality, covered in my film, Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement.
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