On this episode of Conspiracy Theories, host Alex Jones is joined by John in Texas and Matt in Evansville, Indiana to discuss the dangers of Big Brother and the dark side of the New World Order. Big Brother, Big Government, Big Money, Big Lies and Big Lies again.
00:00:40.000Just like in the lead up to World War I and World War II.
00:00:42.000And it's not just Alex Jones saying this.
00:00:45.000Any geopolitical strategist who's worth ten cents of salt can tell that we better buckle up Buckle up, because you ain't seen nothing yet.
00:01:02.000The world is going into controlled, orchestrated chaos.
00:01:06.000But John in Texas, I think you answered your question with the statement you made.
00:01:11.000Yes, they're gearing up for what appears to be an engineered regional conflict, but done in multiple regions of the planet, engineered, controlled World War III, to bring in the global government.
00:01:26.000I was in the infantry in Vietnam in 1970, and we were fighting the Chinese by proxy.
00:01:30.000We were killing Chinese advisors that were leading the NVA patrols when I was over there.
00:01:35.000And I think they wanted to engineer the destruction of our fire base, fire base Ripcord.
00:01:39.000It was totally, you know, annihilated.
00:01:41.000And you've seen how they behaved in the Korean War.
00:01:46.000They burned our prisoners of war alive in their Trojan Reservoir.
00:01:50.000They overran medical teams and burned all the prisoners alive, and they backed the Khyber Rouge.
00:01:55.000And you've seen how they treat their people at Tiananmen Square.
00:02:00.000If they were to ever get into this country or whatever, I know how they'd behave.
00:02:08.000The globalists 30 years ago had made the decision to have Europe be their new western command base, but their eastern command base is China.
00:02:16.000And according to the globalists, and you now see that in the headlines, America is gone.
00:02:27.000Now we're going to totally get rid of you.
00:02:31.000and uh... it's just in any of the average cop says i don't care i'm going out of the ship least i get the boston slaves and so we're just gonna sink unless we wake up to help a static we aren't admit were slaves and only by admitting how pathetic we are can we ever get our past freedom and glory back uh... but uh... no china is the model it's the chinese century that mean the chinese people but it means that their slave masters
00:02:57.000Because they've got the best slave system, have been chosen as the apple of the New World Order's eye.
00:03:10.000I think it's no coincidence leading up to the oil rig thing, we had all those coal mine disasters, and I think it's almost a silver bullet, but to decriminalize and legalize hemp would re-industrialize I mean, it really would, because it's better than cotton, it's better than polyester, it's a miracle product.
00:03:35.000People would rather have asbestos in their house, and they'd rather have polyester, and they'd rather have petrochemicals.
00:03:43.000Again, George Washington grew it, and the Constitution's written on it, but it's evil, okay?
00:03:50.000I'd like to give a little rundown of the police state, city that I live in, Evansville, Indiana, home of the Liberty Dollar.
00:03:57.000Since 94, the GROTC was military recruiting in the schools, cameras on the buses, Indiana has a secure ID, we got two chains of gas stations here scanning IDs for cigarettes.
00:04:09.000We got facial recognition cameras at the airport and the license branches.
00:04:13.000Now, I've always found Indiana is top of the food chain in police state.
00:04:17.000Every time evil pops up, it's Indiana.
00:05:04.000A New World Order based upon collective action.
00:05:07.000Invisible Empire is a damning indictment of the globalists through their own words and documents.
00:05:12.000The New World Order really is a tool for addressing a new world of possibilities.
00:05:16.000It means all the world under their control.
00:05:19.000The United Nations would take over America.
00:05:22.000The Trilateral Commission would control the world.
00:05:25.000Invisible Empire chronicles how men of power and influence have worked in stealth for centuries to establish an oppressive world government.
00:05:32.000I believe first of all that we now need nothing short of a world constitution for the global financial system.
00:05:38.000Global governance with the establishment of the G20.
00:05:40.000So it's going to be an inner ruling elite and then everyone else.
00:08:47.000I'm going to cover a bunch of news right now until later in the hour, then we'll open the phones back up at 1-800-259-9231 for everyone that is patiently holding around the country and the world who is tuned in.
00:08:57.000that is patiently holding around the country and the world, who is tuned in.
00:09:01.000Okay, before I get into the political realignment happening here in the United States and in other parts of the globe, before I get into the economy, I want to cover North Korea.
00:09:16.000It was Lenin, Vladimir Lenin, who said that there are times in history when more happens in a week than happen in a year.
00:09:26.000And when more happens in a year than happen in the previous hundred years.
00:09:32.000And we are definitely in that time frame right now, but because of the convergence of technological developments, population, communication, and high-powered military hardware,
00:09:49.000and other factors all combining together now you're not going to see a decade of rapid change and accelerated change by orders of magnitude you're going to see from here on out a quickening with all the benefits and dangers of high technology life extension
00:10:15.000The issue is, though, the ruling global elite, from their own statements and white papers, the ruling global elite that are in control of society right now, Have disdain for the general public.
00:10:42.000We've covered it ad nauseum with my film, Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement, and other documentaries.
00:10:48.000And we've read their publications and quotes here on air over and over and over again.
00:10:53.000And so if you're a new viewer or listener and you're laughing about this, you better do a little research.
00:11:00.000Say at whatistheendgame.com or endgamethemovie.com and read the full bibliography for the two and a half hour film and check all the facts and claims for yourself.
00:11:14.000You might want to read Ecoscience written by the White House Science Czar.
00:11:20.000You might want to read the 900 pages of Tragedy and Hope.
00:11:24.000You might want to read The Secret Team by Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty.
00:11:31.000Now back in print, by the way, available at InfoWars.com.
00:11:36.000Of course, Ecoscience and Tragedy and Hope are written by top globalists from their perspective of how they've got to have a planetary dictatorship to then kill you, to do it as humanely as possible, sterilize you with the fluoride, but that's not enough.
00:11:52.000You can read the head Pentagon liaison, and they don't deny this, it's on record, between the Pentagon and black ops, Bay of Pigs, you name it, where he details Everything that Joseph McCarthy said was true.
00:12:14.000Of course, the Russians in the last decade have declassified their McCarthy files, and you've seen the headline in the New York Times, McCarthy was right!
00:12:24.000Kind of like a decade ago, time sure flies, I was watching History Channel, and they had the 90-plus year old former CIA Section Chief on from 1949, who was over China, and also into China, not just China proper, but also over Vietnam.
00:12:44.000And he bragged and said, yes, we put Mao Zedong in power, we didn't like Chiang Kai-shek, but we couldn't tell the public that at the time because communism was unpopular.
00:12:55.000Now, I literally almost fell out of my chair.
00:13:00.000Just like when I heard BBC admit our government grows and ships out the opium out of Afghanistan last year.
00:13:05.000I almost ran off the road listening to XM.
00:13:08.000Because I already knew this, but to hear them, to hear Kermit Roosevelt six, seven years ago on NPR, it was a tape after he died, He died in 99, CIA commander, 53, was Schwarzkopf's daddy, overthrown Iran.
00:13:25.000Bragging that they staged terror attacks and used radical Muslims to overthrow Mohammad Mosaddegh.
00:13:30.000Again, I already know all of this, but to hear him brag about it.
00:13:37.000Knowing that the public's so dumbed down and so pathetic that they can now have Geraldo Rivera go on Fox and talk to Marine Corps commanders with the troops gathered around going, you're growing the opium here.
00:14:50.000There were several meetings with Roosevelt and Churchill that they had at the end of World War II and then After Roosevelt died, meetings with Stalin and, of course, Harry Truman.
00:15:13.000And those were public meetings that they announced each time months after it had happened.
00:15:20.000And he talks about in there how the Soviets, who had been our ally during World War II, the West said, how do we set up a police state domestically?
00:16:29.000In fact, reprint me that London Guardian article.
00:16:33.000The headline was, Russia wanted to nuke China.
00:16:37.000And then you read that, well, the U.S.
00:16:39.000two years before had wanted to nuke them as part of their deal with the Communists because China wasn't following their agreements that had been made when the U.S.
00:17:27.000They tell you what size your lightbulb can be, what type of toilet you can have, where your kids can, you know, just everything's controlled now.
00:17:37.000They take your money and then give it to themselves through the government.
00:17:41.000But as soon as Joseph McCarthy, and if you understand this, you understand everything, as soon as Joseph McCarthy realized And went public and said, I've discovered the communist conspiracy is run by the Pentagon.
00:17:57.000And they said, excuse me, you're saying that the commies in Russia have infiltrated the Pentagon.
00:18:50.000They made a deal to where Hitler said he was protecting Poland from the Russians, and the Russians were protecting the other part of Poland from the Nazis.
00:18:59.000And so they came in and divided the country of Poland.
00:19:03.000I mean, if you want to defeat the New World Order, folks, you've got to understand their master strategic planning.
00:19:23.000It's like playing ten chess games at once, folks, with millions of different factors coming in.
00:19:31.000And so as soon as McCarthy realized that the communist conspiracy was run by Wall Street, He was no longer useful.
00:19:41.000Oh, he was very useful letting the feds take over Hollywood and create a right-wing backlash that they could push a police state with as part of this dialectic.
00:19:51.000But as soon as he figured out the real takeover, he was out of there in a New York minute.
00:21:04.000A New World Order based upon collective action.
00:21:07.000Invisible Empire is a damning indictment of the globalists through their own words and documents.
00:21:12.000The New World Order really is a tool for addressing a new world of possibilities.
00:21:17.000It means all the world under their control.
00:21:19.000The United Nations would take over America.
00:21:22.000The Trilateral Commission would control the world.
00:21:25.000Invisible Empire chronicles how men of power and influence have worked in stealth for centuries to establish an oppressive world government.
00:21:33.000I believe, first of all, that we now need nothing short of a world constitution for the global financial system.
00:21:38.000Global governance with the establishment of the G20.
00:21:41.000So it's going to be an inner ruling elite and then everyone else.
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00:24:06.000up. - Fast forwarding to 1995-96, the head of ABB, the Swiss nuclear power plant company, is Donald Rumsfeld, a key gopher for the globalists.
00:24:23.000I mean, he's the guy that gets DU approved for our troops to use.
00:24:27.000He's the guy that gets Aspartame approved.
00:24:29.000He's the guy that gets Prozac approved.
00:24:31.000I mean, he is the key man on so many levels.
00:25:02.000Why did our government and Israel help, on record, give AQ Khan Laboratories, from the late 80s through the mid-90s, the components to not just make hydrogen bombs or A-bombs, but to have medium-range and long-range delivery systems.
00:26:25.000and England creating the Mujahideen to fight the Russians?
00:26:28.000They've always run these Muslim extremists.
00:26:33.000And again, you'll have the top terror controllers, who are Muslim leaders, who are global double and triple agents, who literally have Muslim extremists working for them, who really think they're fighting for Allah out doing this.
00:26:47.000So the guy they bust in the street, he's a real Muslim terrorist.
00:26:51.000But he doesn't know he's working for Mossad.
00:27:42.000USSR planned nuclear attack on China in 1969, but buried in the declassification from the Chinese and Russian archives is that the US had had a secret deal with the Russians against China.
00:27:54.000And that Nixon was mad that two years before, Russia hadn't agreed to launch a sneak attack on China when they wanted to.
00:28:07.000And so by then, Nixon already made a deal with China to menace Russia.
00:28:14.000So this back and forth is always going on behind the scenes.
00:28:18.000But it is on record now that our government put Mao Zedong in who killed between 64 and 82 million people.
00:28:26.000The Chinese government says 82 million.
00:28:57.000The issue is with all of that backdrop and our government helping transfer nuclear weapons fissile material to North Korea, why would our government do that?
00:29:09.000Because they don't want Japan and South Korea living in peace.
00:29:16.000Because they won't need our bases there if they're not being menaced from the North.
00:29:23.000Japan won't need our bases if The North Korean dictator every year or so isn't shooting ICBMs over their country that land a few miles off their coast, threatening to nuke them.
00:29:35.000We'll explain this when we come back, then get into the political realignment worldwide, a bunch of economic news, a smattering of other key info, and then your phone calls and a guest coming up.
00:29:44.000But this is important, so I'm going over the backstory first.
00:33:16.000So what's outrageous about all this is, they know you're naive, but not just naive, gullible.
00:33:23.000You don't want to believe the government's growing the opium and the cocaine, the coca, and controlling who can ship it in.
00:33:30.000You don't want to believe DynCorp's been caught in Halliburton running giant child kidnapping rings.
00:33:35.000Even when it comes out in the Houston Chronicle and the Chicago Tribune, nobody gets in trouble.
00:33:41.000You don't want to believe that the government funded the Communist and Hitler before that, even though it's declassified in public.
00:33:49.000You don't want to believe that our government put the North Koreans in power and put Ho Chi Minh, who was admittedly OSS, in power and worked with the OSS during World War II.
00:34:01.000You don't want to admit it because it's so diabolical.
00:34:20.000You know, the CIA solicitor general saying, we did bring all the coke in, and we did do it, but we're sorry now.
00:34:30.000And so of course they're in the news saying they're getting ready to take more of your pension funds.
00:34:33.000Of course they're going to come out and say, we want to put lithium in the water to make you behave yourself on Fox News.
00:34:39.000They're just going to come right out and say, you're not going to admit you're in a nightmare.
00:34:44.000See, once you buy into corruption and rationalize it by increments, pretty soon those increments add up to really big things you're accepting.
00:35:00.000I mean, what idiot looks at the facts and doesn't know it?
00:35:04.000Not just the evidence, look at how within 15 minutes of the attack happening, this is a new world order, everything's changed, we've got to attack Iraq, we've got to take all your rights away, and blah blah blah.
00:35:44.000They could have killed Kennedy who had health problems with poison in his drink.
00:35:50.000They could have killed any of these people.
00:35:52.000No, they wanted to blow his head off in plain view of hundreds of people and dozens of police, with everyone seeing the men behind the grassy knoll firing.
00:36:03.000They did that as a public execution at high noon to let you know, we run things now.
00:36:10.000Look, at the end of World War II, 22,000, this is on record, So don't live in denial.
00:37:58.000Going into the future, you're not going to be able to make the right decision later.
00:38:01.000You're not going to be able to turn back and wish that when the Republic was on its knees, but still had a fighting chance of getting on its feet.
00:38:08.000If we can just get the country on its feet, and right now it's trying to get up.
00:38:12.000The Sleeping Giant's awake, and it hadn't walked in decades, and it's trying to get up, trying to get out there.
00:38:22.000In therapy, and take a few steps, and every one of us have to give our blood, our sweat, our tears, our soul, our spirit, our very energy.
00:38:33.000And by give your soul to it, commit to liberty and freedom.
00:38:52.000I'm not afraid of dying, I'm not afraid of being destroyed, I'm not afraid of being demonized, I'm not afraid of being tortured, I'm not afraid of them making stuff up about me in the media, coming out and saying Lord knows what.
00:40:34.000To the point of it created the Nazis, it created the Soviets, it created all of these enemies, so it could menace you with those enemies, so it could have its war.
00:40:49.000I mean, it goes back to the Rothschilds and others funding both sides of any war.
00:40:57.000And then it's elementary to understand that Kim Jong-il is a pea in a pod with the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds and the Dutch royalty and the British royalty and these elites.
00:41:45.000They're pro-family and they got their own problems.
00:41:48.000But they're pro-family, they're pro-sovereignty, they're pro-free market, and they hate the New World Order, folks.
00:41:57.000You know, you don't have people taking people's kids and raising them in government brainwashing camps.
00:42:04.000They've got their own form of tribal brainwashing, but everybody does.
00:42:08.000I mean, the issue is, we know why they're going up against Iran, okay?
00:42:12.000Because once they've got that country, they've got from Turkey all the way to Pakistan, they've got that whole area controlled to continue their operations.
00:42:24.000And so now, notice as the world goes into financial collapse, as we go into this crisis, And the government starts demonizing domestic groups ahead of staged terror attacks here to be blamed on us.
00:42:41.000Simultaneously, North Korea launches torpedo attacks on ships in international waters.
00:42:49.000Starts threatening to attack the South.
00:42:51.000That forces the South Korean government that have been talking about making U.S.
00:42:55.000forces go home, suddenly have to talk about war.
00:43:01.000There's just been a ceasefire for 50-plus years.
00:43:07.000And we are now right up to the point of open World War III starting with Iran, with North Korea, with Pakistan who has nukes, and you look at all three cases, Pakistan giving nukes by the West, North Korea giving nukes by the West, Iran not giving nukes by the West.
00:43:35.000They're being picked off because they don't have nukes, and because they have not been chosen to menace their neighbors.
00:43:42.000Because Iran hasn't made a deal with the globalists.
00:43:48.000And if you go back and really study the history, not only did the Persians, under Mohammed Mosaddegh, who was secular, kick out the Muslim extremists the British and CIA had brought in, But he was going to use the oil money for the Iranian people and become a first world nation.
00:44:06.000Now once he got kicked out, the Shah started double-crossing him, as Tarpley talked about, in the late 70s.
00:44:14.000So they plan to bring in their CIA-controlled Ayatollah Khomeini into the country.
00:44:21.000And that's why they had arms for hostages deals and all that stuff you saw, and then they double-crossed the West again.
00:44:28.000It's on record they brought the Ayatollah Khomeini in.
00:44:37.000So that's why they hate Iran so much, is they've double-crossed him repeatedly.
00:44:43.000And so, We've said it over and over again, the globalists have to have a war.
00:44:49.000They are politically in so much trouble now, the only way they're going to kickstart their global government and their banking takeover is to create crises that make us as humans gather around.
00:45:02.000You go back 3,000 years ago, let's say where Berlin is today in Germania,
00:45:09.000And you may not like, you know, your Chief Hrothgar, or whatever his name is, or your Chief Alaric, you know, whatever vandal or Visigoth name he's got, and he may do bad things to you, but when the neighboring tribe comes pouring up over the hill and across the
00:45:35.000across the valley and starts coming across the river you're gonna forget how much you don't like Rothgard and you're gonna mount up and get ready for war to defend your family and it's the same thing they understand human psychology as much of a civilization as we've built we are still just tribal creatures and the globalists understand psychology and they know how to manipulate us and they understand these tricks
00:46:05.000And so if you've just won World War II with the Soviets, and the Soviets are fully U.S.
00:46:10.000funded, on record, 1970, funded by the U.S.
00:46:13.000and British government, on record, to overthrow the Tsar.
00:46:41.000And if our government would just ride off 22,000 U.S.
00:46:43.000tribs because it was easy, or would just openly talk about committing half of Europe over to Soviet tyranny, the Soviets had already killed at least 40 million people up until that time, your life means nothing here in America.
00:46:57.000The only issue is you have a history of guns, a history of the Second Amendment.
00:47:00.000And that's why they said, well, we've launched this Soviet takeover operation worldwide.
00:47:05.000The American people have got all these guns.
00:47:07.000Well, they'll give up most of their rights in the name of fighting communists, while we incrementally set up wealth redistribution and get them domesticated.
00:47:16.000Later, this is all in the RAND Corporation documents, Club of Rome documents, CFR documents, you know, the merger.
00:47:24.000We had Bilderberg Group documents, what the Tucker got a year and a half before the Berlin Wall was brought down.
00:47:33.000And they said that we'll get them to give their rights up in the name of fighting communists.
00:47:39.000But then at the key point, we'll say communism doesn't exist when we actually set up communism here domestically, and we're just going to merge all these countries together.
00:47:47.000Then we'll use the US, Europe, and China to mop up the rest of the planet.
00:47:52.000But things don't always go the way the New World Order wants.
00:47:57.000The Russians are as crooked as a barrel of snakes, but they're old corruption, old evil.
00:49:32.000And notice, right as the banks are in trouble, right as the global government is being formed, right as they're out in the open, suddenly, we've got to attack Iran.
00:49:42.000Suddenly, North Korea is out there engaging provocations.
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00:55:27.000In Hawaii, the first Republican elected to the Congress.
00:55:33.000in twenty plus years in obama's district uh... you see uh... this the kennedy seat being lost in massachusetts you see rand paul trouncing the neocon candidate In Kentucky, you see the same thing with an anti-establishment Democrat beating Specter in the primary.
00:55:55.000Same thing, anti-establishment Democrat coming from nowhere, trouncing the establishment Democrat in Colorado over the weekend.
00:56:05.000People just go in and say, okay, who's the media telling me I should vote for?
00:56:10.000I'm going to vote for the opposite person.
00:57:39.000I think we're going to wake up to all their tricks and their games.
00:57:41.000Yeah, we weren't paying attention before, but we are now.
00:57:46.000And so I'm going to tell you right now, folks, since the end of the official war with North Korea, we've never been in more danger on the peninsula.
00:58:00.000And we've never had a bigger danger with Iran.
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01:00:43.000To do with what you were saying, like how they Put things in front of our face before they execute the attack.
01:00:52.000Like last year, I was watching Discovery and it was a show about like ice ages, right?
01:00:58.000So they get to this thing where they have all these scientists talking about the ice age and how they're actually talking about how there's an ice age coming instead of global warming, but that's not the point.
01:01:08.000They were working on these satellites, right?
01:01:12.000And they were saying that with like four or five of these lights pointed at one spot, on the ocean, they would be able to raise the global temperature enough to battle this ice age or whatever.
01:01:25.000But what they would need to do is have an oil slick on the ocean surface in order to bounce this ray into our atmosphere to bring up the temperature.
01:01:39.000Now the UN is saying they're worried about global freezing, and we're supposed to forget about all their fake global warming, And they're teaching school kids we must stabilize the climate.
01:02:09.000And, by the way, glaciers worldwide in the last three years have been getting bigger!
01:02:14.000So, I mean, they say the Haitian earthquake was caused by global warming.
01:02:19.000They say the Chilean earthquake was caused by it.
01:02:24.000Because they know the public is kind of halfway paying attention.
01:02:28.000And, oh, you better pay Al Gore, but meanwhile, Al Gore says he believes that the sea levels are going to rise in the next ten years and flood all the major cities.
01:02:34.000He's bought two mansions on waterfront property.
01:02:40.000You've got this big, demonic, fat, lying piece of trash that told us NAFTA and GATT was going to be the greatest thing since sliced bread, and then he's up there saying, buy, pay him money, And he will save you from raising water.
01:02:55.000I mean, he's literally just a complete joke.
01:03:26.000I have a 10-year-old son, so I hear that.
01:03:28.000I'm a musician, actually a conservative libertarian musician living in Boston, so you can see how that works out for me here in liberal Boston.
01:03:36.000Actually, Bob Chapman sent you a song that I wrote called Freedom.
01:03:53.000Yeah, it's on YouTube, and if you can look up, I think April 28th, Bob sent you the email with the YouTube link.
01:03:59.000But I wanted to, you know, if you ever want to use that song for any of your movies, free of charge, I just want to be part of the cause, and you know... What's the name of this song on YouTube?
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01:08:23.000As well as scientist and members of the U.S.
01:08:26.000House and Senate on matters of environmental policy in the federal courts, including the Supreme Court.
01:08:31.000He has written on numerous topics and publications, ranging from law reviews to legal and industrial trade journals, to print and online opinion pages, and is the author of the two bestselling books, Red Hot Lies How global warming alarmists use threats, fraud, and deception to keep you misinformed.
01:08:48.000Greenpeace has repeatedly targeted Mr. Horner by stealing his garbage on a weekly basis, issuing press releases announcing with whom he dines, and including him in various other hysterical publications.
01:08:59.000Of course, they're funded by big central banks.
01:09:01.000They have a fleet bigger than major governments' fleets.
01:10:31.000Let's get into, since we had you on two or three months ago, what's happened with the power grab, the fake environmental movement, and what new heads the Hydra has sprouted, and where all this is going.
01:10:48.000Okay, so about 11 months ago, the House passed this cap-and-trade bill.
01:10:53.000It was about 1,300 pages long, and they Obviously did not read the bill.
01:10:59.000They snuck in 300 more pages of buying votes at 3 a.m.
01:11:10.000People did get upset, and they had recently been talking about drill here, drill now, and we're sitting on the world's largest energy reserves, and the real national security issue is refusing to tap your domestic energy resources.
01:11:21.000We won't pass an energy rationing scheme, right?
01:11:24.000Well, about two and a half weeks ago, three weeks ago, Harry Reid, the Senate Majority Leader, openly said to Washington Papers, Politico and I think The Hill, that he was going to suspend the committee process in the Senate in order to cram cap and trade down, but they decided they wouldn't call it cap and trade.
01:11:41.000Reid said, several people said things that are very important.
01:11:45.000There are four people, Harry Reid, John Kerry, Joe Lieberman, and Lindy Graham.
01:11:49.000Harry Reid said, well, this would entail the jurisdiction of almost every Senate committee, Now, pause and stop.
01:11:56.000Because it impacts almost every aspect of your life, including the Senate Finance Committee, which writes the tax law.
01:12:02.000It's the biggest tax increase in our history, and so on.
01:12:04.000Reid said, therefore, obviously the poor dears would just get confused, he's going to write the bill.
01:12:09.000And he began bringing in constituencies, and that means not your listeners by the way, it means even the Chamber, and API, and green pressure groups.
01:12:18.000And he asked them, what do you need in order to support this bill?
01:12:22.000And he asked the Chamber of Commerce and the American Petroleum Institute, what do you need to not run those television ads?
01:12:29.000Because both groups raised a lot of money to run ads, educating voters on this energy tax, unless it gave them what they want.
01:12:37.000And so far it appears they probably got what they want, which is essentially a gas tax on top of the light switch tax to funnel money to projects.
01:12:46.000And now they're claiming, I've heard them on the news, oh, there's a new bill in the Senate to fund the cleanup in the Gulf.
01:12:53.000How convenient that this BP spill happened when they're one of the biggest pushers of the carbon tax.
01:12:58.000And how convenient they wouldn't put the booms in early in Louisiana and Mississippi and Florida and are letting the oil come in.
01:13:06.000Oh, I'm afraid they have to have their taxes now.
01:13:12.000I sat in for a gentleman named Ken Lay.
01:13:15.000Thirteen years ago this month, I was, as I've discussed with you, very briefly, I was the Director of Federal Government Relations for a company called Enron.
01:13:24.000And my number one priority, I was told, after I took the job, was to get a global warming treaty and a domestic cap and trade scheme.
01:13:30.000And the company they developed it with was BP, and they had set up this market with Goldman Sachs.
01:13:37.000Look, I understand how it fits into the narrative today, but you have to understand, I was the crazy guy on the street corner muttering about this for about Six years before anybody... Oh, wait a second!
01:13:49.000These businesses trying to make money the old-fashioned way by having their buddies in government agree to take some of their power in return for a guaranteed opposition to competition and a wealth transfer from you and me to them.
01:14:01.000So they bought all these uneconomic industries like Enron had the world's largest windmill company they bought on the cheap.
01:14:28.000It's pretty clear that, well, in the public record, that the Green Groups actually, with whom I met, by the way, that same day, in the same room, They were groups like Union of Concerned Scientists and National Resources Defense Council.
01:14:39.000They were Baptist and bootlegger coalitions.
01:14:42.000The green groups after the BP, after the well exploded, the green groups were shrieking to the White House, don't you dare burn that oil off.
01:14:53.000And they screamed about consequences of burning, igniting the oil before it got too well mixed.
01:14:58.000As I said, actually, on a TV show, I think that night, or within a few days, you have to understand something.
01:15:04.000I could be as irresponsible as a lot of people were about Bush, and just say, look, the administration, which, by the way, was BP's favorite political candidate over 20 years, as you know, the administration was just taking orders from its Green Group buddies, and they want this to be as bad as it can possibly be, because the damage, while real, is temporary.
01:15:25.000The tragedy was the 11 men who lost their lives.
01:15:28.000But this is a White House that says never let a good crisis go to waste.
01:15:31.000They even engineer crises like claiming a global catastrophe from global warming.
01:15:36.000And the Greens, of course, have never made money hand over fist like they have.
01:15:40.000And for those that don't know, and for those that don't know, if they would have ignited this within hours, there would be almost zero problem.
01:15:47.000Almost all of it would have burned off at the source.
01:15:50.000Carbon dioxide would have been put into the atmosphere, you know, much smaller than a volcano.
01:15:55.000Would have literally had almost no effect if they would have done what the old-timers did and set that sucker on fire until they figured out a plan to cap it.
01:16:05.000And now we know why 35 days later the White House has done everything they can to block this because now they're going to get their carbon taxes that Paul Volcker demands we must have to pay Goldman Sachs their bonuses.
01:16:31.000The Greens did tell the White House, don't burn it off.
01:16:33.000We just know the White House said, don't burn it off.
01:16:35.000It probably is a coincidence that they weren't taking their marching orders from the Greens.
01:16:39.000But, we know BP has been pushing an agenda that John Kerry said, even after the spill.
01:16:45.000Ironically, he said, I've been working with these companies, BP and Shell, to write this law.
01:16:51.000He said this, it's again in the public domain, so Harry Reid said I'm going to suspend the committee process like with health care.
01:16:57.000John Kerry said I'm not going to call this Bill Capitrade because I don't know what Capitrade means.
01:17:02.000Yes he does, and it has Capitrade in it, he just said it's mean if you call it that because of course, there's a memo I talk about in Powergraph written by Stanley Greenberg who was Bill Clinton's pollster.
01:17:14.000He conducted some polling, and he said to his client, who are Democratic politicians, you have to do two things.
01:17:20.000Stop saying cap-and-trade and global warming, and start calling it something else, and then it might work.
01:17:25.000Don't change your agenda, just call the agenda something else.
01:17:27.000Yeah, he calls it our deteriorating atmosphere!
01:17:31.000Well, he said, here are the catchphrases that I've polled well.
01:17:59.000Lindsey Graham said two weeks ago, oh, this isn't a global warming bill because global warming no longer exists as a reason to pass legislation.
01:19:04.000She's the energy and climate czar who had a phony position, that position, created for her because she could never achieve Senate confirmation and she would cause great political havoc, of course, having been a commissioner for the Socialist International, if Obama tried to get her confirmed.
01:19:19.000She was put into this phony position to lord over Cabinet officials and she gave an interview to U.S.
01:19:24.000News in March of last year in which she said, It's their objective to get to the point where the electric utilities hold back power from you, so that you'll still be able to cool your home, just not as much as you would like.
01:25:33.000Well, alright, the President has given some speeches that in isolation just seem weird.
01:25:37.000He said, of course, under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity prices would necessarily skyrocket.
01:25:44.000He said he would use it to bankrupt industries he didn't like.
01:25:48.000His quote was, coal, you know, natural gas, whatever the industries.
01:25:52.000Then he admitted it would be passed on to the consumer and he said, And this will also raise billions of dollars.
01:25:58.000Well, in the book I detail how I used FOIA to get Treasury documents that say, there was a memo written six days after Obama was elected, in which they said, uh, he wants to do this, here's what we can do.
01:26:09.000And under the justification paragraph, they wrote, uh, revenues.
01:26:13.000This will raise, quote, possibly up to several percentage points of GDP, parentheses, i.e., the equivalent of the corporate income tax rate, or corporate income tax.
01:26:24.000The corporate income tax, among the highest in the world, raises $400 billion per year.
01:26:29.000The biggest tax increase in our history to pay off World War II, which was an expiring tax, in constant dollars is $107 billion per year.
01:26:37.000So we're talking about a spectacular amount of money.
01:26:39.000But they don't just want to steal your money, they want to steal your freedoms.
01:26:43.000He gave another speech in which he said that you can't eat what you want, drive what you want, or put your thermostat where you want.
01:26:48.000The specific quote was, we can't eat as much as we want, drive our SUVs, and keep our thermostats at 72 degrees at all times, and expect that other countries are just going to say, okay.
01:26:59.000But B, What is the President of the United States doing obsessing about how much I can eat, what I can drive, and where I can put my thermostat?
01:27:07.000Well, he's also plotting against other countries and invoking hatred of us, just like he had Calderon here last week saying, ban all our semi-automatic rifles and handguns.
01:27:21.000Well, sovereignty is not a big thing to them.
01:27:24.000They do believe that one way to skin this cat is through... Global governance is not the same as a global government, though the global governance crowd would of course love that.
01:27:32.000I'm just saying, he's a big proponent of global governance.
01:27:35.000What I'd like to do, if we can stay when I come back, is talk about the way they want to control your thermostat.
01:27:41.000And you're not going to believe the documents that someone slipped me.
01:27:44.000But he, the Guardian in the UK, Old Red herself, ...reported that the Obama administration was briefing European diplomats before Copenhagen that failed... Thank goodness.
01:28:03.000Well, okay, well, they want to use these things called smart meters.
01:28:06.000Smart meters put the meat on the bones of what Carol Browner said when she said, we want to get to a system whereby the utility holds back power from you.
01:28:14.000Why would a utility hold back power from you?
01:28:15.000They're in the business of selling you power.
01:28:17.000Because there's physical scarcity, which this crowd is arranging, as I detail in the book, and because they've got a requirement that they hold back power from you.
01:28:25.000So the state is going to use the utility according to the energies are to decide, she said, you'll still be able to cool your home It's not as much as you would like, which means just as much as they would like.
01:28:36.000Well, it turns out, the Assistant Secretary of Energy for Energy Efficiency, a woman who was Al Gore's CEO before she took this job, making $325,000 a year as a Green Pressure Group CEO.
01:28:48.000She divested herself of utility stocks because, of course, the appearances would be terrible if she didn't.
01:28:54.000But someone slipped me her financial disclosure documents, and guess what?
01:28:57.000She held on to a half million dollars in a smart meter company.
01:29:04.000Assistant Secretary of Energy for Energy Efficiency in charge of getting the smart meter mandate in that Carol Browner says is the way that you can't control your thermostat, the state will.
01:29:13.000And we've got a woman who held on to between $265,000 and $550,000 of Smart Meter Company stock in addition to another green cut jobs company, her husband's.
01:30:19.000For instance, if you want to remodel your home, go to HomeGain.com.
01:30:23.000Use their Home Sale Maximizer to help you determine which home improvements can most increase your home's value before you put it on the market.
01:30:29.000For 10 years, these folks have been helping home sellers and buyers.
01:33:26.000But I walked out during the break and I said, well, the city didn't ask us here in our business.
01:33:30.000They came and stuck the new smart thermostat on last year.
01:33:34.000And in the brochure it said, well, since your thermostat was free, businesses don't have an option, you know, free, taxpayer paid for it, we may turn your heat down in the winter, or your cool, you know, up in the summer, if we're having problems supplying power.
01:33:51.000Now that was the old Enron scam, where they got caught to create artificial scarcity, where they were showing congressmen and the state legislature fake computer trades on computers.
01:34:01.000They were just making up the price, and their internal studies showed if we double or triple prices, or even turn power off, that creates the perception that it's scarce.
01:34:10.000And now they're doing it with the water, with power.
01:34:12.000This green movement is about raping you.
01:34:15.000But I briefly wanted Matt Ryan here on air, I mean, plus we can dig up the Austin Energy contract, says it.
01:34:21.000I mean, I'd read this, but he goes, no, you're absolutely correct.
01:34:41.000They'll give you a free thermostat, a programmable thermostat.
01:34:44.000It'll work for you 24-7 around the clock, except during what they call peak usage times, which
01:34:52.000is a time period usually in the afternoon when they say okay well there's a lot of people turning their ACs on they can turn yours off and they will turn yours off for usually about 15 minutes during a day when they they feel that they're having peak usage and that's in the federal legislation to even control what what goes in air conditioners just like your cell phone since 96 tracks you in real time they're designing the big brother grid but I want to tell you with this business we don't have a choice They are our lord.
01:35:48.000I mean, I'm already under these people's control, and if they can naked body scan my kids to fly, if they can control the temperature in my office, I mean, literally, this is worse than the Soviet Union.
01:35:59.000What they're talking about is squeezing you at both ends.
01:36:02.000They're trying to ration the physical supply, create physical scarcity where there should not be any.
01:36:08.000Remember, the United States sits on the world's largest energy reserves.
01:36:11.000We don't have physical scarcity that would lead to this sort of, in essence, micro brownout.
01:36:17.000But you're going to get to the larger point of brownouts, because we're following the UK's path of saying, no coal, no nuclear, we'll just build offshore wind farms someday, and then you're going to see them obsessing about the fact that when they get to the Olympics, they're actually not going to have the electricity.
01:36:30.000But what you've got here is, Browner is saying things like, okay, this is not just the smart meters that will tell us when you're using your energy.
01:36:37.000What, I guess as Kathy's always also invested in, with this company Landis & Gear, a Swiss smart mirror company, half a million dollars worth of stock, and just wait until she succeeds in getting those mandated in one of the biggest markets in the world.
01:36:51.000They're talking about also getting to the point, like Matt was discussing, whereby they can say, I'm sorry, you've been running your dishwasher too often, wrong time of day, closed washer, sorry.
01:37:02.000Carol Browner sold it in this interview to U.S.
01:37:04.000News as a savings to the consumer, and I just want your listeners to know they're saving a fortune in India right now, in Haiti, and all over the world by not using energy.
01:37:13.000But we live in the richest country in the world, sitting on top of the world's largest energy resources, but that means we have freedom, and they don't like it.
01:37:20.000Dan Jones, the communist self-avowed communist radical, he said, this is a quote, also in the book, among many others, the green economy will start off as a small subset and we will push it and push it and push it until it becomes the engine for, wait for it, Transforming the whole society.
01:37:40.000It always comes down to, this is the vehicle for doing to this terribly flawed transgressor of America that they have to fundamentally transform.
01:37:52.000Your freedoms are simply nothing you can be trusted with.
01:37:55.000And then meanwhile, Enron, and of course you briefly worked for them for about a month and you quit and exposed it all on record and valiantly so, they wrote the cap-and-trade carbon tax fraud, literally made off level.
01:38:08.000Going back to California, they tried the same scam there, and in their memos it said, we turn their power off, then they perceive it's more valuable, they'll put up with a triple price increase.
01:38:19.000Ha ha ha, we're raping these schmucks.
01:38:22.000I mean, so you've got the big money, it's just not free market money, who wants this government monopoly.
01:38:27.000I think that's the key to defeat these little green devils, is to expose that they could care less about the environment.
01:38:35.000This is all a way just to run everybody's lives.
01:38:37.000Yes, the temperature at the cabin tray will be, according to everybody, Whatever it would have been.
01:38:45.000And the point is, the President comes out there, and this is another quote, he said, some of America's biggest companies support this by way of saying, so it must be a good idea.
01:38:52.000Of course, that's usually his position, right?
01:38:54.000No one's ever asked publicly, okay, but why?
01:38:59.000Why is GE, which has Enron's old windmills, which nobody wants unless you mandate and heavily subsidize them, Why is the gas... Did you know the gas industry is actually running these ads calling for more windmills?
01:39:10.000Because more windmills simply mean more gas.
01:39:13.000You can't really dial a coal plant up and down to meet the Oh yeah, they know the wind doesn't work, doesn't transfer the power.
01:39:38.000Well, you're right about creating artificial scarcity, and the seeming paradox of it, and business is pushing the idea of scarcity, but you also pointed out why businesses can benefit from scarcity.
01:39:51.000Now what I did in the book is I pointed out this is by no means, and it's obviously the world's second oldest profession, but this is also a very long history in the U.S., and there are left-wingers Who point out that the history of the progressive movement was the corporate tie-ups to keep competition out, to lock in a nice livelihood for themselves with their buddies in government.
01:40:11.000And this is absolutely reminiscent of that for reasons I go into.
01:40:15.000And again, it started with the railroads and then various other industries.
01:40:19.000We've now got it with something extremely important to your lives and your family's lives and our national security and your family's security, and that is energy.
01:41:32.000For their long-held wish list of organizing society.
01:41:36.000And there will be trade-offs, yes, involved, and your life will be very different.
01:41:39.000And when they orchestrate collapse, on one level or another, it's true, they rush in with more state as the solution.
01:41:47.000Now, the President is lecturing Spain to cut it out right now, because he doesn't want them to drag us down, be the next Greece, and drag us down with them, because he's got a fundamental transformation to impose here.
01:41:56.000But last week, in a Spanish newspaper, La Gazeta, there was a full-paged I saw that, so here's the deal.
01:42:11.000Their globalization, their command destruction, their neo-feudalism has been too good at destroying things and so it's blowing up in their face before they get all the vice grips in place.
01:42:25.000I have to say that when the state controls power, the state controls an awful lot.
01:42:30.000And what this agenda does is transfer basic energy use and production and transmission, all these decisions from individuals, producers and consumers to the state.
01:42:39.000And when you do that, you are giving up an awful lot of your liberties.
01:42:44.000She's from a country where they have a joke, at least they're still laughing for now, that it's a good thing we don't have all the cars we pay for.
01:42:52.000What they mean by that in Denmark is Through the Special Assessment and the VAT, they have doubled the price of cars there in order to force scarcity upon the public, because it's a wealthy country and they would have all these cars.
01:43:07.000And so what they did is they, in effect, doubled the price of a vehicle to force the population out of automobility.
01:43:13.000Now, when you start letting go of automobility, pretty soon you'll find yourself letting go of control of very basic decisions like The temp, as you pointed out.
01:43:21.000Now when you let go of things like this, please don't be surprised when you wake up one morning and there's an awful lot more that's just gone.
01:43:29.000I mean, the social engineers admit that they want to have one-child policy, that they want to decide what we're going to be when we grow up.
01:43:48.000And that's my next question to you, because you're, you know, an insider who really studies this.
01:43:53.000Every incumbent, whether Republican or Democrat, is being thrown out of office.
01:43:57.000Whether it's Specter, whether it's what just happened with the congressional seat in Hawaii, whether it's Massachusetts, it doesn't matter.
01:44:05.000I've never seen such a realignment against the establishment.
01:44:09.000So they've really, you know, Obama was the fake revolution against Bush.
01:44:13.000Now people realize, my God, Obama is the real takeover.
01:44:18.000And so people are really, I mean, Zbigniew Brzezinski last week said, our global governance is in trouble.
01:44:24.000He said, the people have finally woken up worldwide to us.
01:44:34.000I mean, because from every way I slice this, we are now really at the make it or break it crossroads.
01:44:41.000Well, there is a real push, and again, I was in the room in The Hague in November 2000 when Jacques Chirac gave his speech calling Kyoto the global warming treaty that covered 35 industrial titans like Iceland, Luxembourg, Belgium, Slovenia, Slovakia, but not China, India, Mexico, Brazil, and so on.
01:44:58.000I was in the room with some members of Congress and a few other Americans who were the only ones surprised when Jacques Chirac, who at the time was the President of France, said Kyoto was the first component of an authentic global government.
01:45:08.000Jim Sensenbrenner is a Wisconsin Republican who marched outside and held an impromptu press conference, but I stood there watching the left-wing press swearing at him.
01:45:16.000The Guardian reporter was swearing bollocks at him.
01:45:20.000As Sensenbrenner said, if you want to keep us out of something, call it global governance.
01:45:23.000Well, I said the Guardian noted that Obama's diplomats were telling EU diplomats there may be a delay on Kyoto II in the United States because he's considering something called a Congressional Executive Agreement.
01:45:35.000That was, uh, I heard you mention NAFTA before.
01:45:43.000But the issue of Congress waiving Article 2, Section 2 ratification, uh, advice and consent, the two-thirds ratification.
01:45:51.000NAFTA was a treaty between three countries that Congress just said is not a treaty.
01:45:55.000And they granted something called Fast Track Authority, which is a suggestion of what should be in it, and a promise to give it an up or down, no amendment, no filibuster, 50 plus 1 vote in both houses.
01:46:07.000Now, if you do this, and the administration apparently is telling Europeans, we may have to try this because we're going to call Kyoto 2 not a treaty, You're going to have a problem because it's then left up to the courts, and you know how activist they've become.
01:46:20.000But what you're talking about is you have one bite at the apple.
01:46:35.000They're going to call it Johannesburg because that's where the World Environment Summit is in 2012.
01:46:41.000They're actually going to try to get Kyoto 2 according to Lefty advisors to Obama, like this fella Nigel Purvis, who's counseling him, just declared this next key global warming treaty not a treaty.
01:46:55.000It's got all... it quacks, flies, and does everything odious like a duck.
01:46:59.000But if you get Congress to say it's not a treaty, and the only difference is it means no two-thirds ratification, well, that's your one bite at the apple.
01:47:09.000The courts aren't going to help you, is my guess.
01:47:11.000And you have a 50 plus 1 requirement, and it would take You know, you see incumbents being thrown out, but I just don't know, given the way, you know, you didn't see the Democrats... So they're going to come at us with a violation of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, treason, like this article.
01:47:28.000Top official says Feds may not process illegals.
01:48:14.000I represented the skeptic scientist in this case.
01:48:17.000The Supreme Court ruled 5-4 in Massachusetts versus EPA, saying EPA has the authority, does not have to, but has the authority to treat exhalation as pollution.
01:48:28.000Well, there's a resolution by Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, and she's saying EPA does not... Congress is allowed to vote veto major rules within 60 days.
01:48:40.000The problem is it has 41 co-sponsors, three Democrats, and that means three Republicans have said no.
01:48:45.000They're from the Northeast, to no surprise, Scott Brown and the ladies from Maine.
01:48:49.000Now, Scott Brown, during the campaign, said, climate change is, we all know this, what I don't want to do is something as big as what EPA is proposing or cap and trade without getting to the bottom of the scientific scandals.
01:49:00.000Well, I assure you we've not gotten to the bottom of the scientific scandals.
01:49:04.000I submitted a Freedom of Information Act request to the University of Virginia on Friday.
01:49:08.000I'm not sure how far we'll get, but we will litigate it.
01:49:10.000We're suing NASA probably this week for our own climate gate.
01:49:15.000But right now we've already got three Republicans in the Senate who have not co-sponsored a bill to say EPA will not do this to the back door.
01:49:23.000Instead, the world's greatest deliberative body, why, we shall deliberate on what will be the biggest intervention in our economy and our history.
01:49:30.000And you have three Republicans not just co-sponsoring this thing?
01:49:34.000You need to shut down the business of the Senate if the administration tries to do this through the back door.
01:49:39.000And three Republicans have not codified it.
01:49:41.000Is that why they're so scared of Rand Paul?
01:49:43.000Because he gave that speech saying, we're not going to let you use fake environmentalism to shut our economy down?
01:49:50.000I'm sure he troubles some by pointing some things out.
01:49:54.000I was told by the Spanish green jobs professor, Dr. Calzada, in an email that ran Paul in one of his acceptance speeches, pointed out that there's a new steel mill in Kentucky, the North American Stainless Plant, with 175 workers.
01:50:06.000I write about this in my book, Power Grab, in which those steel workers are jobs that are sent from Spain because of cap and trade and green jobs schemes.
01:50:20.000But, uh, Rand Paul pointed this out, and I don't think people in Washington like to hear the idea that the state is not responsible for economic growth.
01:50:28.000Yeah, I mean, the grass grows, uh, you know, the sky is blue, the sun comes up in the morning because... because Barack Obama reads off a teleprompter.
01:50:41.000Final segment with our guest, uh, the new book, I've got to read it, Power Grab, How Obama's Green Policies Will Steal Your Freedom and Bankrupt America.
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01:54:24.000So you've got big mega-corporations in bed with government to create monopolies.
01:54:29.000As John D. Rockefeller I said, competition is a sin.
01:54:34.000And this will destroy our free market system that's made this nation so great.
01:54:38.000It has nothing to do with the environment.
01:54:40.000Chris, we were talking during the break.
01:54:42.000You pled, you know, many times before the Supreme Court.
01:54:45.000The arrogance level, though, I mean, I don't see Republicans opposing Elena Kagan, who is like Joe Stalin in drag or something.
01:54:54.000And then I was talking to you about what's happening with BP and, you know, it just seems like it's a lawlessness.
01:54:59.000But give us your take on that in closing.
01:55:02.000Well, what we said before going out last time was the idea to many elected officials that Washington is not responsible for economic growth is anathema here.
01:55:11.000So somebody like Rand Paul, who's going to come up and say those things, Uh, it's going to be a troublemaker and isolated.
01:55:17.000You've got companies like BP who choose.
01:55:19.000Remember, their favorite politician in the last two decades was Barack Obama, a guy who swore to cause your listeners' energy prices to skyrocket.
01:55:29.000Obama swore he had no problem with high gas prices.
01:55:32.000He just said they shouldn't go up too fast for the obvious reason.
01:55:35.000People will start calling for policies that will allow us greater access to the greatest energy reserves in the world.
01:55:41.000So you've got a problem with these companies like BP that are a bit, look, they can have their public spats now, but it's not that much of a spat.
01:55:48.000BP remains in bed mostly with the left, sometimes with the right, Washington-style right, because they, like Enron, lost the plot.
01:55:57.000They began as an energy company, and then they started to try to make money off of derivatives and windmills and solar panels and pushing paper and not making anything.
01:56:04.000They tried to make money off of doing nothing.
01:56:07.000Now, a couple of months after I left Enron in '97, there was an Oval Office meeting, August 4, 1997, Sir John Brown of BP and Ken Lay from Enron with the President of the United States and the Vice President Al Gore.
01:56:21.000And on August 1st, 1997, a Friday, in preparation for the Monday Oval Office meeting, there was a briefing memo written for Ken Lay, which is available online at masterresource.org.
01:56:33.000In it, they say, okay, the unanimous Senate, I mean, the context was a week or so before the Senate had unanimously said, don't go to Kyoto and do this.
01:56:40.000So these two fellows, Ken Lay and John Brown of BP, go into the Oval Office and they say, ignore that Senate.
01:56:47.000You got to go to Kyoto and you got to do it.
01:57:34.000I know, as Cap Weinberger said about detente, if this is progress, we can't afford much more progress.
01:57:38.000But you start setting some examples here.
01:57:41.000When Democrats are running as anti-capitrators, as happened in the Pennsylvania race in which they succeeded, when Scott Brown wins Massachusetts, saying in Cambridge, No, no, no.
01:57:51.000You don't do this until you get to the bottom of what stinks.
01:57:53.000Of course, we don't know where he's going to vote on this thing.
01:57:55.000You are turning a very big ship of status and trying to steal your liberty.
01:57:59.000But read that book and listen to what they're saying.