Former Governor Jesse Ventura is back on the air with Alex Jones to talk about his new book, American Conspiracies. He also talks about the BP oil spill and how to deal with it. Alex also discusses why the mainstream media will never question the government.
00:00:00.000You just have to get past the fear and go ahead and exercise your freedoms anyway, because if you do so, then the only step they can then take to stop that is, you know, by incarceration, and that will then expose them as the tyrants that they are.
00:02:34.000Jesse Ventura, American Conspiracies has been as high as number four on the New York Times bestseller list.
00:02:39.000It's been holding up at seven in the top ten.
00:02:42.000And that shows the people are hungry for the truth.
00:02:45.000So I just want to say congratulations to Governor Jesse Ventura on another bestselling book.
00:02:49.000Well, thank you, Alex, and thanks for all the help, because you've certainly helped your show and listeners on that.
00:02:54.000But what's interesting, Alex, is that Well, I think that's an endorsement.
00:03:13.000Just like the Huffington Post censored your article about 9-11, even though they asked you to write it, now you're seeing censorship in the book world.
00:03:36.000I think it's a case, Alex, where they feel that if they review it, they give it credibility, so they're staying away from it.
00:03:42.000I Unbelievable. We'll walk through some of the things that are covered in the book and why it's seen as controversial but you know that's why the mainstream media is dying is because people know they're acting as gatekeepers.
00:03:56.000I just spoke earlier on another show and they asked me why the mainstream media won't question the government.
00:04:05.000And I said it's simple because if they don't play along with the government, they get no access to them.
00:04:11.000And if they're denied access to them, they're dead in the water.
00:04:15.000So therefore, they go along to get along so that they can do their jobs and continue to have access with, you know, the senators, the congressman, the president and all that stuff.
00:04:26.000Because if they question anything, they lose that access, which is the kiss of death.
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00:09:51.000He's the d-rex of political talk Alex Jones on the GCN radio network Well his television show got picked up for a second season record First season on true TV their number one new show I'm going to talk about because I can get these questions I know Jesse's wondering with all this censorship with all this control not one major News
00:10:22.000book reviewer will talk about his number four on the New York Times bestseller list, American Conspiracies, four weeks in the top ten.
00:10:43.000But Governor Jesse Ventura, for those who just joined us, we started getting into Well,
00:11:14.000I really don't think he does, and what's really educated me, Alex, is I've been reading, I've read, I'm in the process of finishing my second book by Colonel Fletcher Prouty, and I highly recommend both of them.
00:11:27.000People need to read the Colonel's books.
00:14:28.000I'm chomping at the bit here, and I want to sit back and shut up, and you can tell us what you've learned, but this is what's so incredible.
00:14:34.000I've known you for about four and a half years now, and the process, you knew about Gulf of Tonkin, you knew about the lies of Vietnam, you were very well informed, you've been visited by the CIA when you were governor, but it's been a process of you reading and researching, and now to see you, I interviewed Prouty, had to be like in 1997, we've been digging around looking for the tapes, And I have read over his work.
00:14:58.000I've read his first book, not the second one you're talking about.
00:15:01.000And then you discover that Joe McCarthy was actually right, but he was being used to set up a police state domestically with low-level communists but as soon as he found out the pentagon was running everything remember that was what they said was so absurd then they set him up and destroyed him and used the term McCarthyism to demonize him but then it was declassified seven years ago or six years ago that the Russians said no it's true he was right and then you learn that the whole geopolitical system is a war against individual populations
00:15:31.000there was a deal with the Russians to build up their police state they would take over half the world the US would build up its police state Well, you know, the thing is, now, is this, Alex, I have the time to do it now.
00:15:58.000You know, when you're being a governor or you're governing a state or you're working in that capacity, you don't have time to do any research because your day is full 24 hours a day, seven days a week, just doing your job.
00:16:11.000And now I don't have that job to do anymore.
00:16:14.000And living in Mexico like I do for half the year, I read 15 to 17 books every winter down there.
00:16:22.000And it's amazing how reading can educate you.
00:16:26.000something I think we're losing track of in this country.
00:16:30.000It's amazing to see your development, and I'm not like on some mountain saying that, because I've noticed your discernment with issues getting into the whole conspiracy realm.
00:16:40.000You go right to the best sources, the best documents, the best history, and it's just very exciting, Governor Ventura, to see you with a hit TV show, a best-selling book, and to really be one of the main leaders now of questioning our reality.
00:16:57.000Give people the name of the book again because I want to go buy it and read it.
00:17:00.000Fletcher Prouty, on record, the head of black ops between the Pentagon and CIA.
00:17:05.000He was sent away, you know, to the Arctic when they killed JFK.
00:17:11.000He talked about how they pulled the security off, how it was a Pentagon black ops job.
00:17:16.000We're going to play a clip from JFK coming up later, but take your time in the break with more of what you've learned and how you tie that in to all your other life knowledge.
00:17:26.000Again, it's a case that, uh, you know, Fletcher Prout, he just, uh, he lived through it, and, uh, I enjoy reading what he knows about, and he's an exceptionally bright guy.
00:17:37.000See, the other thing he shows very clearly, which tells you how Obama isn't really in charge, Well,
00:18:52.000that's what Ron Paul said two months ago in a speech.
00:19:02.000And my whole point is we have to come to the point as a nation to realize presidents come and go, but the secret teams run by the big Wall Street banks that set up the CIA rule this country, and by extension, the world.
00:20:06.000I sat through many hours of LBJ at his ranch outside Austin, Johnson City, a couple miles from where I sit, and McNamara, and McNamara is telling him what to do, and telling him they just staged the Gulf of Tonkin, and that this is what he's going to say at a press conference tomorrow, and Uh, the president's almost saying yes sir to him, and it's the same thing with Bay of Pigs.
00:20:27.000They launched that without Kennedy knowing, and then blamed it on him when it failed.
00:20:31.000Exactly, and you gotta understand, too, it ain't McNamara.
00:21:24.000Incredible. Jesse Ventura, always wise, always informed, but just to know that he is really on the fast track to the key to planetary control.
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00:26:55.000Everyone out there that knows anyone in the state of California, please encourage them this fall to vote for the legalization of marijuana.
00:27:04.000It's going to be on the ballot in California.
00:27:08.000No legalization to where marijuana would be treated like alcohol and tobacco.
00:27:12.000And the reason I'm pleading with people to support this is to stop the carnage at the border.
00:28:17.000NATO rejects Russian call for Afghan poppy spraying.
00:28:20.000NATO Wednesday rejected Russian calls for to eradicate opium poppy fields in Afghanistan, saying the best way for Moscow to help control the drug would be to give more assistance against the insurgency.
00:28:31.000Then I was listening to BBC a few months ago.
00:28:34.000And they were admitting that the U.S. protects the opium to be friends with the locals, and it's up more than 12 times what it was nine years ago, and there's opium flooding the world right now.
00:28:45.000What's your take on government drug dealing, and that they're openly protecting the poppy fields?
00:28:50.000Well, you know, look at it this way, Alex.
00:28:52.000The major banks, the international banks of the world, where do you think all that money goes?
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00:30:15.000Governor Jesse Ventura, I have a lot of questions that I want to ask here on my list, but going out to break on this short segment, what else do you want to relay to this audience that you think is important?
00:30:24.000Well, again, just to be vigilant and pay attention and to question your government at all times, because it needs to be questioned.
00:30:32.000Right now, like I said, it should be clear to everyone that Barack Obama is not in charge.
00:30:39.000I don't believe that he is now, because you see everything that he ran on, he hasn't come through on virtually anything.
00:30:46.000He's now in the opposite camp, really.
00:30:48.000And it's almost like he arrived there with this fresh, clean agenda, and it was like they took him to the woodshut and told him, well, you might be the president, but you don't run things.
00:31:06.000You know, you look at Obama's biggest contributor was Goldman Sachs.
00:31:11.000And they're the ones that, what is it, the last five or six Department of Treasury secretaries have all come out of there?
00:31:19.000Absolutely. And then you look at Chile, Iceland, you look at Greece, you look at all these countries, first world, second world, They're all run by Goldman Sachs people.
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00:34:52.000The Sun We are live, ladies and gentlemen, Tuesday, the 6th day of April 2010.
00:35:05.000Governor Jesse Ventura, an icon of true political independence, In this country and worldwide is our guest and I'm really honored to have him and honored to count him as a friend.
00:35:28.000We're going to talk about that in a moment.
00:35:29.000But first, Governor, I got an email from a lady.
00:35:33.000saying effective immediately she's never listening to my radio show again because i played the gun pod footage from the apaches killing these reporters shooting these kids laughing about it and then lying about it later all these other massacre videos here's the new york times today u.s.
00:35:49.000forces horrifying afghanistan cover-up Obviously, we're not saying the individual troops are all bad, but Pat Tillman went over there, found that it was a fraud, wrote letters home.
00:36:25.000You know, we went through this in Vietnam.
00:36:27.000I would think that this country would have a little bit longer memory of the same type of affair took place in Vietnam, where you have the massacre at My Lai.
00:36:37.000You know, people, and believe me, I'm not blaming the soldiers, I'm blaming the politicians, because it's ultimately their fault.
00:36:47.000You know, war is the result of failed policy, failed politics, and the end result is war.
00:36:55.000And so when your politicians fail you, you go to war.
00:36:59.000And because of their failure, they put our young men and women into these wars.
00:37:05.000Well, what they did, of course what they did is not good, but let's remember something.
00:37:11.000Some of these guys are on their fifth, sixth, and seventh tour over there.
00:37:22.000And so, there is nothing great and glorious about war.
00:37:28.000War is the worst thing man's ever come up with.
00:37:31.000And that's killing each other over what?
00:37:34.000Political reasons, religion, whatever stupidity we might decide to go to war and murder each other over.
00:37:43.000And so, no, you are not wrong in showing this, because what's wrong is sheltering people from it.
00:37:50.000That's why these wars are going on, Alex, is because the American people have been sheltered, the media is not portraying what's happening over there, and they're not even showing the body bags when they come home.
00:38:04.000Well you're absolutely right and you talked about Fletcher Prouty who ran black ops in the Pentagon that's on record the liaison to the CIA and he's documenting how they made the decision at the end of World War II to attack third world countries to divide them to never have an outcome so the armaments industries could make a lot of money and get a lot of power and then we sit here and say that's exactly what Afghanistan and Iraq are we know this is the policy of divide and conquer We know they're turning our country into a militarized
00:38:34.000surveillance police state, and it's our right as citizens to say that we don't want to be part of these illegal wars that George Washington said that we shouldn't be involved in foreign wars.
00:38:46.000Well, again, I guess sometimes a war is justified, you know.
00:38:52.000There are occasions, you know, where a war you've got to go fight because there may be a tyrant like Adolf Hitler out there.
00:40:11.000Yeah, well, that's what helps create the wars.
00:40:14.000See, they were designed by Harry Truman to not set policy.
00:40:20.000They were supposedly to be there only to provide information for the president.
00:40:25.000And Alan Dulles, Proudy makes it very clear that Alan Dulles, and of course he's neck deep a member of the Warren Commission and all that on Kennedy, Alan Dulles is the one that created today's CIA.
00:40:38.000This independent, rogue, outlaw state that is uncontrollable now even by our own government.
00:40:51.000Because I have a Bloomberg report here in my stack where the federal government is telling private and public pension funds you must invest quote and failed banks and now they're getting ready to go after people's pension funds.
00:41:09.000are they trying to push the american people into some type of armed revolt i believe they're trying to destroy the middle class Absolutely. And why?
00:41:21.000Because we're the only country that's ever really had one.
00:41:25.000That's always been the American dream, is that you can rise from poverty in this country and you can become a millionaire.
00:41:33.000Well, that dream is vanishing quickly.
00:41:36.000There is not going to be a middle class in about 15 years, I don't believe.
00:43:16.000Well, I know they've been setting up for it and infiltrating.
00:43:18.000I know they infiltrated these militias and set them up to create the illusion that there's about to be all this domestic terror, and I believe they're getting ready to stage terror attacks, Governor, to blame it on the American people, to use NORTHCOM against the American people.
00:43:32.000They could empower themselves into a martial law type situation?
00:43:36.000I know they've been making preparations for two decades in earnest, starting with Oliver North, and I know I've never seen such a buildup towards it.
00:43:43.000Okay. Well, it's something we all got to be aware of, without a doubt.
00:43:49.000But, you know, there's still us all the masses out there, and we're still very powerful.
00:43:54.000The only thing is we have to learn to use our power.
00:43:58.000Well, you've got a powerful voice as a political icon, an independent, a former governor.
00:44:04.000What would you say to the American people if we see some terror attacks, they're blamed on the American people, and they start trying to use these different enemy combatants...
00:44:13.000Well, you know, I think the first thing we need to do is this.
00:44:20.000I think we need to put huge pressure on the Obama administration to rescind the Patriot Act.
00:44:27.000Yes. I think that would be the great starting point for people to start marching and demanding that the Patriot Act be abolished.
00:44:36.000Because the Patriot Act is the thing that's taking away our freedoms.
00:44:42.000It's taking away habeas corpus where they can arrest you, simply say you committed a terrorist act.
00:44:51.000And people in this country better wake up because what they're doing to them guys at Guantanamo, down at Gitmo, they could do to you.
00:45:00.000Well, that's what the Belligerent Act states that John McCain's introduced and Lindsey Graham's supporting.
00:45:06.000It says, for any intelligence reason or any direction of the president, citizens can be grabbed and given enhanced interrogation and never be seen again.
00:45:51.000So I've said it now on your show, so everybody knows that if Jesse Ventura suddenly disappears, they'll know that I wouldn't do that, other than to go surfing in Mexico, and you know that I'll come back every spring.
00:46:07.000Well, I tell you, that brings me to the next question.
00:46:09.000I mean, as things heat up, as you become even more prominent, if that's possible, but you certainly are, and as people's respect for you goes even higher, we need to take good care of you.
00:46:19.000So watch out, there aren't some frogmen out there when you're surfing that try to make you disappear.
00:47:41.000You've got to get rid of these mercenaries.
00:47:43.000You've got to get rid of Black Leopard.
00:47:45.000You've got to get rid of all of them groups, because there's actually more mercenaries in Iraq today than there are soldiers.
00:47:51.000Well, I've talked to Anthony Schaefer, Special Forces Colonel, Commander, and he talked about how the CIA wouldn't let him kill bin Laden two weeks before 9-11.
00:47:59.000And he said that was being done because they already had contractors in the CIA with more power than the Army and the Navy, and that they basically are above the law and can do whatever they want.
00:48:10.000In Crowdy's book you'll find out the CIA runs our military.
00:48:16.000Our military is used to back up whatever the CIA is getting involved with.
00:48:21.000Well, that's what Colonel Schaefer says, yeah.
00:51:49.000Yeah. So, again, and then there really isn't many people attacking us, so the military-industrial complex goes out and finances terror groups or stages attacks as the pretext to ratchet up the naked body scanners and the face scanners and the control. Yeah, maybe well.
00:52:23.000When you go in and attempt, just because a country has a different form of government than you have, what gives us the right to go into that country and attempt to assassinate their leader?
00:52:36.000Well, if they tried it here, they'd be called terrorists.
00:55:09.000And again, we're just tearing them down now.
00:55:11.000We'll probably see what happens is this.
00:55:14.000Pro TV will start off and they'll approve like two or three of them.
00:55:18.000So we'll go ahead and begin working on them.
00:55:21.000Then in the process of working on them, other approvals will come for the other shows.
00:55:27.000And so then the staff will start ramping up for those shows also.
00:55:31.000But what gets confusing in doing the shows is that sometimes we'll be doing four of them at one time.
00:55:40.000You guys aren't half-assing this either.
00:55:41.000You do a lot of research, a lot of work, a lot goes into this television show.
00:55:46.000Well, I'll tell you, for our little purse-string budget that we're on, we do a hell of a job.
00:55:55.000Because you know what I actually did in negotiations this year?
00:55:59.000What? I was already locked in for the second season, so I couldn't negotiate money at all, but I could negotiate artistically.
00:56:08.000I told my top agent at William Morris, I said, "Look, I said I want it in writing that this year we'll actually get a set of clappers for when we're out on the streets." You know what clappers are now, right?
00:56:23.000Well, there are those little boards you see in Hollywood where they put in front of the camera what scene it is, blah, blah, blah, and then they clap, and that way you can separate all your shoots.
00:56:34.000Well, we were so cheap in doing this thing, initially we had to use our hands.
00:56:42.000And so I told them, I said, look, the only thing I demand is that I want it in writing that we will have a clapper sent out.
00:56:49.000Shoot. And it was funny because my top agent at William Morris started laughing and he said, Governor, I can assure you, I'll take it out of our end.
00:57:04.000Man, I tell you, you spent so much time, what, six months of work or more over a year making the last television program.
00:57:11.000So when will we see this air in the fall of this year?
00:57:15.000I can't even venture a guess right now because, again, it'll depend on how many of them they want done and in the can and at what point are we at to finish up whatever is left.
00:57:27.000Because once they make the decision to start airing them, I've got a feeling they're going to want to have the majority of them done so that they can air them weekly like they did last time, where 10 weeks in a row you will get a different conspiracy every week.
00:57:42.000Well, I look forward to seeing you again in person.
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00:58:09.000Governor Ventura, in closing, we've got about three minutes left here, studying the New World Order, Well, I still don't know exactly who is.
00:58:30.000You know, if you're asking me to name names, I can't do that.
00:59:47.000The Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and Betsy Ross's flag.
00:59:52.000And so it doesn't surprise me that they want to eradicate marijuana because they're eradicating our Constitution, they're eradicating our Bill of Rights, and they've certainly eradicated the flag in my opinion.
01:00:03.000Governor, I'm going to say bye to you as soon as the show ends here in about 30 seconds, but I really want to thank you for coming on.
01:00:09.000Congratulations for doing it your way, telling the truth, not compromising, getting a number one hit TV show on your network, number four on the New York Times bestseller list for the book, and people are waking up, and we got a good chance of bringing down this new world order, and thank God we got you on our team.
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01:02:11.000Let's go ahead and take some more calls.
01:02:34.000But I haven't been hearing a lot of information about stuff.
01:02:38.000Security companies like Converse Technology and Verint and Nice Systems as well as Noise.
01:02:46.000Well they're a revolving door in homeland security and it's the same in Europe where when somebody's in homeland security they give them the contracts and then five years later they move into that company as an executive.
01:02:57.000Well absolutely and one of the biggest issues is that Converse, the headquarters is in Israel as well as all these other sub-companies I don't
01:03:34.000They claim it doesn't get around the law, it just hides the criminality.
01:03:40.000And if you do research hard enough, it leads all the way back down to Sourcefire, which their major clients are American Defense Department, the National Security Department, and a lot of these people think of, when they go online and they think that they're safe through these security companies, but one of the major companies that I found that was connected to these things is VeriSign.
01:04:00.000Now, VeriSign deals with most of the, majority of the credit card securities Uh, online, and everybody trusts this company, but Versign, it's, it's directly linked to one of its major company, uh, partners is Norris Systems, which also deals with IBM, NEC, it also deals with, um, TenLink LTD, which provides for every single stage of level of launch.
01:04:21.000And the government can raise up the tech companies they want to be preeminent by giving them the contracts.
01:04:29.000Mohammed in Colorado, you're on the air.
01:04:34.000I don't know if anybody mentioned this on the Friday or Sunday show, but I just went to go see the new Clash of the Titans movie yesterday, and unlike the 80s show that's all about some dude that's kind of left-struck and going to fight things, this one to me was really almost like an allegory for the current state of the U.S. So in the movie you've got these Titans that are defeated by their sons,
01:04:59.000the gods, and the gods make people, human beings, to pray to them in order for them to kind of live forever.
01:05:05.000And so the people become very distraught with the tyranny of the titans and kind of rebel, and so they release this kraken that's supposed to kind of put the people back in check, and halfway through the movie, I immediately thought, you know, this is kind of like the U.S.
01:05:57.000And so, halfway through the movie, I really just started to realize, you know, this is really almost about America.
01:06:04.000Well, George Lucas said that episode three, Revenge of the Sith, is where the senator becomes the president, then the ruler, by staging terror attacks and outside military attacks on himself.
01:06:15.000And many of the terrorist armies he's running don't even know that they're not really going to win in the end.
01:06:20.000And Lucas said, no, no, this is what our government really does do.
01:06:36.000And, uh, and it's, it's, it's, yeah, that message, that allegory is very overt, so it didn't take out a lot of digging until we realized that.
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01:10:34.000Catherine has designed and closed over $25 billion of transactions and investments to date and has led portfolio strategy for $300 billion of financial assets and liabilities.
01:10:44.000We recently interviewed her for her upcoming film, Fall of the Public 2.
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01:10:56.000She's also a former government official, assistant secretary of housing, federal housing commissioner under Bush I, investment banker, managing director, and member of the board of Wall Street firm Dylan Reed & Co., Inc., And so it doesn't get any more leaked than that.
01:11:11.000And she joins us for the next 51 minutes here today.
01:11:15.000Catherine, out of the gates, we're going to get into government health care and your take on what it does.
01:11:22.000But I first wanted to go to this Businessweek article.
01:11:25.000FDIC wants pension funds to prop up failed banks.
01:11:29.000And, in fact, this isn't the Bloomberg.
01:11:40.000I mean, here's a link to the Bloomberg News.
01:11:41.000I wanted to read the actual quotes where they're ordering, with this color of law, kind of like they ordered the banks to take the bailout, wink, wink, to invest public and private pension funds, quote, in failed banks.
01:11:52.000Cameron Austin-Fence, what is all that about?
01:11:55.000Well, we have seen the pension funds over the last 10 to 20 years come under significant pressure to invest in a variety of things which have left the pension funds in real trouble.
01:12:10.000The pension funds, the American pension funds, were the key vehicle used to finance the housing bubble and have gotten, you know, left holding the bag.
01:12:19.000And so it is incredibly important, Alex, that pension funds have the legal protection and authority to finance, you know, what is the right thing to do.
01:12:33.000The one reform that needs to happen is a real investigation of why do the pension funds keep doing, you know, the scams and how do you stop that?
01:12:43.000Because it's left, you know, we now have state and local governments and companies having to come up with new big pension fund payments because there's been too much political interference.
01:12:55.000I described, you've heard me tell the story where the president of the largest pension fund in the country, CalPERS, He said to me in 1997 when I was trying to interest him in refinancing American communities.
01:13:15.000And how can they order you as a pension fund board to just do things with your money?
01:13:22.000And the reality is, if CalPERS had invested in the fundamental infrastructure I don't Right.
01:13:47.000trying to stop it on record even at the time so to be clear, we have the head NASA climatologist, we have the UN we have all these world leaders, Bill Gates saying they want to destroy industrial society so they get you in debt get your local governments Right. Right.
01:14:06.000They move it all offshore, then the country implodes, and then they come in with even more debt, then they take over healthcare, then they run your life.
01:14:20.000The last person who should be telling the pension funds what they should invest in is the FDIC.
01:14:25.000Now, I say that, and Alex, what you need to know is, you know, the patterns appear that lots of small banks are being targeted.
01:14:33.000in a way that's ending up providing subsidy to the people who pick them up.
01:14:38.000In other words, we have a double standard in enforcement by the banking regulators, so the big banks who've been doing all the improper things get bailed out, and the small banks who've been well-managed are getting targeted and taken over in a way that subsidizes the big banks.
01:14:55.000So you have to be careful behind here, you know, that we don't see the FDIC driving the small banks into pension funds.
01:15:02.000In a way that is part of an economic warfare game.
01:15:05.000And my fear is, you know, the next thing you know, you see state and local government pension funds financing someone like Soros.
01:15:12.000Or the big hedge fund operators picking up these small banks for cheap.
01:15:17.000Absolutely. So that's why I brought this article up first.
01:15:20.000And I want you to spend some more time on this before we get into some other related issues.
01:15:25.000Because here they are in Businessweek, in Bloomberg, saying And Obama's people are now out there pushing this that, oh, we're going to just take your pension funds wholesale to protect them.
01:15:39.000And then, of course, they'll invest those in derivatives again.
01:15:42.000Then they'll take a large portion of it down the road, get people more dependent on government.
01:15:46.000Well, we didn't take most of it, but, you know, you've got to stick with us or you won't get any of it.
01:16:19.000Exactly. It sounds good that In the banking bill, the government is now officially in the banking business.
01:16:28.000Slipped into it was a student loan legislation where the government will now be the person loaning, but really it'll be the government directing you to specific top three or four banks.
01:16:41.000So this is a vertical integration, and I want to be clear here for new listeners.
01:16:45.000The government controls the regulators.
01:16:48.000They can arrest or set up or shut down or sanction Well, it's the Soviet Union.
01:17:17.000Let's say your neighbor, Alex, is an insider, and you are an outsider.
01:17:23.000And your insider neighborhood plays ball with the government, and the government says, You know something? You can finance your car for 0%, which is what hedge fund operators have been doing.
01:17:38.000And your neighbor can finance his car with 0% financing.
01:17:42.000He can finance his mortgage with 0% financing.
01:17:45.000And we're going to provide equity financing to his business for 2%.
01:17:52.000Meantime, you have to pay 5% for your car financing, 6% for your mortgage financing, and by the way, you can't get equity How long is it going to take before your neighbor has a much bigger car, a much bigger house, and has bought your business, you know, that went bankrupt.
01:18:13.000So we're talking about controlling through the back door by controlling the cost of capital, and certain players get a very low or even free or negative cost of capital.
01:18:27.000So I'm a bank every time I lose, I'm a big bank every time I lose money, you just replenish what I lost.
01:18:33.000Whereas the rest of us have real risk, and we have to pay a much higher cost of capital And if you won't sell your business to them, they put in the green economy, which is run by government, they will selectively force you to sell your business or they will shut you down.
01:18:58.000Thousands of ways it happens, but there's a double standard in terms of regulatory enforcement.
01:19:04.000So, for example, I used to have a broker dealer that was a small company before I'd worked on Wall Street.
01:19:11.000And if you look at the enforcement costs and time that we spent as a small business, it was significantly greater.
01:19:21.000Now, let me describe behind this what one of the legitimate problems is.
01:19:30.000There's a problem in that right now the financial markets have two goals.
01:19:36.000You know, the goal you're taught in business school is the goal of the financial markets is to allocate capital to the most efficient players.
01:19:42.000And so, you know, some companies are efficient and they make money and so they attract you, you buy their stock as opposed to the big bank that has the derivative method goes bankrupt, right?
01:19:56.000The other increasingly, Alex, is geopolitical economic warfare.
01:20:01.000You know, we've gone from a planet where wars occur with bombs to where wars occur with derivative bombs.
01:20:08.000And you're literally seeing sort of a geopolitical competition between the Chinese, the Russians, and populations around the globe for resources through the capital markets.
01:20:21.000And so the national security goals of manipulating the futures market at the price of oil or the price of gold have literally overtaken, you know, And part of what you're seeing with all the goal of the capital control is literally if you're the government, you can't afford for people to be making a free market.
01:20:45.000You need the 20 mules to go in this direction because that's what you need to manage the Chinese.
01:20:52.000And so you have this incredible desire for control, including for a legitimate reason.
01:20:58.000And let me tell you what the problem is.
01:20:59.000You and I have talked many times about the red button problem.
01:21:03.000Everybody in America, right now, we are all the beneficiary of this geopolitical effort.
01:21:11.000So tomorrow, if the geopolitics stop, and America stopped playing to win at geopolitics, and we stopped being the global leader in money laundering, and we stopped, you know, stealing from people using derivatives, what would happen is everybody's government subsidy check would stop, and as of last month, Americans get more government checks We get more money from the government than we send to the government tax.
01:21:35.000Yeah, I saw that in the New York Times.
01:21:38.000And again, I've been interrupting a few times because it's so incredible to see them openly saying they're going to take over the pension funds.
01:21:47.000We're going to break down where this is going when we come back.
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01:25:54.000I want you to listen very carefully to Catherine Austin Fitch.
01:25:58.000I want her to go back over the information she just laid on us and expand on it.
01:27:02.000I just finished making the point about the red button and the extent to which we are financially dependent on global warfare.
01:27:12.000So we're implementing warfare globally, whether with military warfare, with covert operations warfare, or increasingly now with financial warfare.
01:27:22.000And the reality as a system is most Americans are the financial beneficiary of this sort Thank
01:28:30.000go. But to boil it down, we're coming to the end.
01:28:56.000The banks know they've pumped up the Ponzi scheme to such a level that they're now preparing To rob whatever wealth we've got left, and you talked about how the elites for the last decade have been leaving the United States, and now...
01:29:09.000Well, they're not coming to the end, because if you look at the wealth that this planet can create and harvest, the amount of wealth that's been created and can be harvested to date is tiny compared to what you could do in the next 20 or 30 years.
01:29:25.000So they've just, you know, this is far, we're on a journey and the wealth that can be created is Far more than exist to date or have.
01:29:36.000Okay. They are artificially cutting the avenues of wealth off to independent groups and smaller organizations and vertically integrating it and saying they want to cut wealth generation off to people in the West.
01:29:52.000Right, in North America, their attitude is, "Listen, if you all just sit down, shut up, you know, we put an implant on you and you live on $600 of government subsidy a month, it'll make it much easier for us to manage the planet.
01:30:05.000You've created a huge amount of wealth, we just stole it all, you're going to be real unhappy about that, so we just want you to sit in the corner and shut up." And what is the next thing?
01:30:19.000Well, the next thing is they go to a global economy and a global government.
01:30:23.000In other words, the people managing this in the United States don't see themselves as Americans anymore.
01:30:28.000They see themselves as globalists, and they're managing to a global operation, and in fact, In fact, if you look at where their big investments are, their big investments are in space.
01:30:40.000So in fact, you know, they're not necessarily even looking at planet Earth as the 100% base of operations.
01:30:49.000But they have fantastic new technology, and they have a global framework.
01:30:56.000And, you know, their attitude is, we've moved on, you're left behind, and the question is how do I move forward?
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01:34:52.000is the end We're talking about the most important subject there is.
01:35:05.000The global government, the elite, their mindset, how they control the planet, where they're going.
01:35:13.000Again, Catherine Austin Fitch is a former Assistant Secretary of Housing, Federal Housing Commissioner under Bush 1. The website is solari.com.
01:35:27.000Okay, I'm gonna try to just sit back and give you the floor because I want you to give people the overview of who we're dealing with, what their endgame is, what the next phase of their operations is going to be, and how we stop them, how we get out of this trap of being dependent on them.
01:35:41.000You notice all they ever want to do is get us more dependent so that there's basically no way to get away from these people.
01:35:48.000Right. Well, as it comes, you know, it's just just a big Yeah.
01:36:01.000And a lot of the solutions accelerate, Alex, the day that everyone sits back and says, you know, these guys are as nuts as Alex Jones says they are.
01:36:10.000Because all this stuff about slavery and police state, you know, those are reasonable words.
01:36:18.000And, you know, I say this as a former regulator, a former assistant secretary of housing, a former board member of a Wall Street firm, a former board member of Sallie Mae, It's a student loan finance organization.
01:36:31.000And let me tell you how I came to that conclusion.
01:36:34.000Part of my background is doing portfolio strategy for big, you know, I was the FHA Commissioner, so doing portfolio strategy for $300 billion of liabilities.
01:36:46.000And then my company in Washington, the Hamilton Securities Group, built databases of all, you know, sort of community assets and real estate, which is looking at the entire GDP.
01:37:01.000You're talking about the GNP of the planet.
01:37:04.000So I'm used to dealing in very large numbers and actuarial analysis.
01:37:09.000And actuarial analysis says, well, if you stop feeding people GMO food, they're going to live longer.
01:37:16.000That means insurance companies are going to have to pay out this much more, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
01:37:20.000so you're used to dealing in very big numbers and the butterfly effect of changes in policy with changes in a lifespan so I I give that as a background and I wrote this I wrote an essay about why I was opposed to the swine flu vaccination, and I literally, when I saw the policies that were being implemented in connection with the rollout of the WTO and the control of agribusiness worldwide,
01:37:50.000the rounding up of innocent people in American communities and stuffed into prison and the private prison, I went through all the different trends from 96 to 98, and I came to the conclusion Thank you.
01:38:17.000you know, the 20 policies I was seeing being implemented both here and globally with the WTO, particularly the control of the food supply and system with sort of what Monsanto is doing in genetically modified food.
01:39:02.000the only thing I can conclude is they're planning on significant depopulation.
01:39:06.000And I said, well, that's what my analysis shows.
01:39:09.000And we just kind of stared at each other.
01:39:12.000And if you look across the board at what is being done in terms of building databases on American citizens, what is being done with RFID, is it RFID or RFDI?
01:39:29.000Well, they've got a bunch of different ones, but let me just stop you for a moment.
01:39:32.000Okay. Because you did, as this huge actuary analyst running hundreds of millions of dollars, you saw it like if somebody sees a guy pull up in a van and start chasing a house and then checking the front door, you think maybe they're about to try to rob us.
01:39:49.000I have been at the guy's house as a fly on the wall and heard him talk about how he's going to rob, and so separately, And of course you know all this now.
01:40:00.000It turns out for 50 years they've been planning this and building a world government as a means to an end.
01:40:06.000and all of the tracking, all of the surveillance, all the police state, all the mind control, the conditioning is to be rolled out in phases and we're now coming into the end game.
01:40:20.000And again, in the phases, they shut the resources off so then you become dependent on government so it has you in its kill grid, the drugging, the cancer viruses and the shots, the mercury.
01:41:43.000Find out we're telling you the truth and this is life and death and then the ballgame isn't going to matter so much and take all your energies and stop seeing Catherine Austin Fitz as your champion.
01:41:53.000Stop seeing Alex Jones as your champion.
01:41:55.000You know, she's not Joan of Arc and I'm not George Washington.
01:42:02.000When you withdraw, all your ideas are great, but you want to get as financially not dependent on them as possible.
01:42:09.000So get as far away as you can from government money or money that they control.
01:42:13.000One of the things that is just a profoundly important thing is everybody tomorrow in the country, Alex, said, you know, any bank that's trading derivatives or any of the big banks that got bailout money, I'm getting as far away from them as I can.
01:42:29.000So if you pulled your money out of the big banks and went to a well-managed local bank tomorrow, it would have a perfect...
01:44:13.000The sheriff, there's dual sovereignty under the Constitution.
01:44:18.000sheriff can literally tell the federal government to get off, you know, your county property and know they may not enforce something that is outside the Tenth Amendment.
01:44:29.000Okay, so we're coming into election, the election cycle.
01:44:34.000And the election cycle is always a time, Alex, when you can be talking to your neighbors about all these issues.
01:44:40.000The fact that the bailouts and health care paths without having any kind of popular, sufficient popular support for a change of that extraordinary nature has got people worked up and they're ready to have a conversation.
01:44:53.000So, number one, you want to get into office the right kind of sheriff and you want your sheriff.
01:44:58.000Is your sheriff out there doing crime patrol?
01:45:02.000Or is your sheriff instead spending all of your tax monies foreclosing on people on behalf of the Big Bank?
01:45:08.000And trying to squeeze people and raise revenue.
01:45:10.000We've always promoted Patriot sheriffs, so we're on the same page on that front.
01:45:15.000The second thing is, in your state and local areas, you have candidates who are proposing Tenth Amendment legislation.
01:45:22.000So, for example, Idaho passed the Health Freedom Act.
01:45:25.000We have lots of states trying to pass Health Freedom Act.
01:45:29.000We have lots of states, you know, doing a variety of things on the Tenth Amendment.
01:45:35.000There's a great Tenth Amendment Center online.
01:45:38.000So you want to find out where the state and local representatives who are active on Tenth Amendment, and you want to get hooked up and supporting them.
01:45:50.000Don't just count on other people to do it.
01:45:52.000Now, I want to get into some other issues.
01:45:53.000I'm going to talk about some more solutions here, but I also want to talk about what their endgame is.
01:46:00.000okay so can i mention one other thing go ahead stop giving them your data there's a get one black if you read it went black on yes black wrote the book about i_b_m_ building the database and computer systems for the Holocaust yes okay well any any kind of police state or any kind of slavery depends seriously on having the infrastructure you need the database and and computer infrastructure
01:46:28.000you need to manage large population so it's just like if you're a farmer and you have livestock you need great data and great databases if you're going to manage the population ditto here and what we're watching in the healthcare bill in a variety of different legislations and policies, and now with the census, is the effort to build the definitive database infrastructure that will allow them to define where you live, who you
01:46:55.000live with, connect up your healthcare databases, connect up your tax information if they want to, connect up all sorts of private commercial information they have about your spending habits.
01:47:34.000Okay? And there are lots of different ways you can do that.
01:47:38.000And then the second thing you want to do is you want to get out of the money system as much as possible anyway.
01:47:43.000So anything you can do to protect, to not make yourself a target, you know, we can put our money in a stock, get a dividend, and then go buy water from the water company.
01:47:55.000But also if we live in a rural area, we can just stop being in the middle and we can go out and build a well.
01:48:24.000They're ready to be woken up to the full horror.
01:48:27.000But looking at their program and being able to factor in all these different elements on a wide spectrum analysis, what do you see as their game plan in the next six months to a year to two years, out to five years?
01:48:40.000How do you see them unrolling this global financial takeover?
01:48:43.000And then we'll dovetail that with this war-making economy.
01:48:47.000That isn't just launching wars overseas.
01:48:49.000Naked body scanners, surveillance, face scanners, CPS, DynCorp out grabbing more children for no reason, the Texas case where they're taking people's kids now if their parents say don't trust the government.
01:49:20.000Step number one everybody has to do is turn off their TV and stop listening to their media and stay linked into media that's telling you the truth.
01:50:44.000When you saw our article last Friday, "Cops and CPS Seize Child from Parents for Mistrusting Government," I was aware of this, but you sent me a lot of stuff that I actually wasn't aware of.
01:50:54.000And we're going to be showing people some document cam shots right now.
01:50:59.000With DynCorp heavily involved, globally it's been congressional hearings in white slavery, child kidnapping rings, they now have a new name, but CSC DynCorp.
01:51:10.000Well they marched into CSC and then they got spun off and went public.
01:51:15.000Okay, so but I mean I have all the mainstream news articles This is literally a legion of doom and that's all part of their military operation and grabbing kids is very lucrative Well the scariest story in the world and one that's hard for most people to get into is the role of pedophilia And pedophilia is a very old story Alex.
01:51:35.000It's been used for years You know as a both a you know a personnel benefit if you will and a form of entrapment once you get a file Well, you know, once you get dirty pictures of somebody engaged in pedophilia, politician or business leader, you own them for life.
01:51:51.000It's one of the most economic ways to control there is.
01:51:53.000I hate to say it, but that's the reality.
01:51:56.000If you look at the history of narcotics trafficking and mortgage fraud in this country, it's intimately linked with pedophilia and sex slavery.
01:52:04.000You know, I just hate to say it, but that's the way it is.
01:52:06.000And I got onto DynCorp in the 90s because you had a couple of whistleblowers when DynCorp was a government contract.
01:52:14.000You had their project managers literally engaged in owning, you know, buying and owning children and using them for sex and working with the local mafias who were tracking it.
01:52:25.000And yet the State Department, where DynCorp is the biggest contract, was forgiving all of this.
01:52:30.000Anyway, this is all on the public record.
01:52:32.000And then DynCorp started to pop up in child protective services contracts around the country.
01:52:40.000I'm going to have to have you back for a full hour soon on this subject because you I actually got death threats when I first started covering this about eight years ago when we learned about Dime Corps.
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01:57:01.000The first was a group of peasant women from South America came up to give a presentation to congressmen, and they gave a presentation in Washington on how they were being moved off their land, private people were picking up their land for cheap, and then the government was building housing, and, you know, this whole war on drugs game.
01:57:23.000And so I kept asking them questions, and finally they got very suspicious and said, how come you know so much about how the money works in our country?
01:57:30.000And I said, well, I was the Assistant Secretary of Housing, and apparently it works the same way in your country as it works at ours.
01:57:37.000So afterwards I did a little research and discovered the same contractor in enforcement at HUD in this country was the lead contractor in Latin America on the war on drugs.
01:57:50.000So I started to get in and look at DynCorp and on and on and on, and that's when the story of the sex slave trafficking came out, and it was unbelievable because Insight Magazine, Alex, wrote a great story about sex slave trafficking, the allegations.
01:58:16.000And the next week, both the Navy and the State Department gave huge new contracts to DynCorp.
01:58:22.000You know, so it didn't seem to matter.
01:58:25.000Anyway, so fast forward, I ended up writing a series of stories about DynCorp and illuminating what was going on because, in fact, the chairman of the Thank you.
01:58:46.000going on with the funny money was pretty scary.
01:58:50.000So when our litigation was very hot and heavy, and of course DynCorp was a big contractor at the Department of Justice and was said by the Inflaw people to be one of the managers of the Promise software.
01:59:04.000Anyway, so we're in the middle of the litigation And I have a person, one of the people working for me, helping me do the litigation support work, which was very time-consuming, came to me and said, you know, somebody from Child Protective Services showed up at my house.
01:59:21.000And she's an only, you know, she's a single mom.
01:59:25.000We've got a minute and a half left, so finish up on this.
01:59:27.000And so she said, I'm sure it's a mistake.
01:59:29.000And I said, no, no, no, no, this is dangerous.
01:59:47.000So last week when I saw what was going on in Texas, I said, you want to check and see whether DynCorp is behind, you know, is in the mix, because the idea of going after people's children just because they disagree with government policy, this is a real risk.
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02:10:47.000But the Fox News reporter said, I was there that day, I was with Silberstein and the emergency management people, and yes they did say they were looking at wiring and blowing up 7, but magically it fell on its own so we didn't have to blow it up.
02:10:59.000Well, it takes weeks, if not months, to properly demolish a 47-story building.
02:11:04.000A few years ago, they tried to blow up the Intel building in Austin.
02:11:39.000I ran out of the studio to get a pizza, literally a half mile away, to scarf it.
02:11:43.000I was scarfing it in the car as I was driving back to go back on air.
02:11:47.000And they were on ABC News saying they're going to blow up building 7. And then I talked about it and people said you're a conspiracy theorist.
02:11:56.000Well, it turns out there's scores of newscasts now, including BBC, where they did a false script and announced that it had fallen in its own footprint 25 minutes before it did.
02:12:07.000So, look, there's no doubt, folks, they blew up Building 7. We had Barry Jennings, the deputy head of New York Emergency Management, on.
02:12:15.000Two weeks later, he died mysteriously.
02:12:44.000But for the next hour, and a little bit into the next hour, then Bob Chapman's joining us.
02:12:49.000Alan Hart joins us because He's another window into this.
02:12:53.000You know, you have this Fox News reporter going with the lie, saying, yeah, okay, we were there, they were talking about blowing it up, but we didn't.
02:13:01.000So you're a conspiracy theorist forever saying we did.
02:13:04.000And then you've got all the firemen, you know, saying, yeah, they told us they blew it up.
02:13:08.000And then they get fired or threatened, and the cops saying, yeah, they said they blew it up.
02:13:12.000I've interviewed those cops, Bartmer and others.
02:13:14.000I've gone and found the cops who were on the CNN video saying, get back, they're bringing it down, folks.
02:13:35.000It's just to get into Building 7, to get into 9-11, to get into the NORAD stand down, to get into U.S. and British troops, mass in and around Afghanistan in the two months before, and Newsweek admitting Bush signed the attack order to go into Afghanistan on September 10th, and Jeb Bush declared martial law two days before in Florida, A.P. And hijackers trained at U.S. bases.
02:13:56.000They thought they were taking part of it, you know, in a drill.
02:14:01.000But to have another eyewitness who's a prestigious pedigree with the BBC, ITN, top correspondent in the Middle East, you know, interviewing with Shaw, Yasser Arafat.
02:14:12.000I mean, he's at the highest level of journalist, Alan Hart, blowing the whistle that day one he was witnessing the cover-up.
02:14:22.000In the media, the self-censorship, that...
02:14:37.000Because he was known as an intellectual and an aristocrat, and they actually let him off because the British liked him so much at Nuremberg.
02:14:44.000And he said, well, when the devil's got his arm around you, being nice to you, you don't...
02:14:48.000You know, recognizes the devil and he just wants you're in it, you're in it.
02:14:52.000Well, folks, we got to say we're not part of this.
02:15:01.000Alan, you don't like talking about yourself, but you've got such a lengthy bio.
02:15:05.000You know, it'd be like talking about Muhammad Ali's boxing career.
02:15:09.000You know, that would take an hour to just hit the highlights.
02:15:11.000But for those that don't know who Alan Hart is and the website's alanhart.net, Tell us about your career, what you've done, and why you're going public now.
02:15:19.000Well, Alec, first of all, let me say I'm delighted to become a member of your truth-telling society, if I can put it like that, and I'd like to tell you why in two sentences.
02:15:29.000When I became a very young reporter with independent They certainly have.
02:15:58.000They've been part of the complete overthrow of our society.
02:16:01.000Okay, well, Alex, my background is I've been in journalism and I've been doing secret politics in the Middle East for the best part of 40 years.
02:16:15.000I am the only person on earth, I think, who enjoyed intimate access to and on the human level of friendship with the two greatest opposites in all of human history.
02:16:27.000Golda Meir, Mother Israel, and Yasser Arafat, Father Palestine.
02:16:32.000I think there's nobody else on the planet who can say that.
02:16:36.000My other claim to fame is that you know the first rule of journalism, Alex.
02:16:41.000If you offend both parties to a dispute or a conflict, you're probably on the right track.
02:16:48.000Yes. Well, I am red-flagged by Zionism and the regimes of an impoverished On
02:17:26.000a war he could not win and should not have fought.
02:17:29.000It was there that I started to say to myself, what the hell is this world all about?
02:17:34.000Amazing. And again, you're being, you know, meek about your amazing career, sir, and we appreciate you joining us.
02:17:43.000We'll also talk about some of the books that you've written before you leave us.
02:17:48.000Why have you decided to come out and, you know, lay out the fact Okay, well let's go head on to that, Alex. First of all, I am not a latecomer to the truth of 9-11.
02:18:10.000I've been aware of the I didn't want to give supporters of Israel right or wrong the ammunition to dismiss me as a mad
02:18:40.000conspiracy theorist because of my views on 9-11 in order to divert attention away from all the other truths I reveal in my book.
02:18:48.000I think you'll understand what I'm saying.
02:20:07.000They are truly world-leading consultants, and they said to me when they studied the film footage and everything else, Alan, it is irrefutable that the Twin Towers were brought down by controlled explosions from within.
02:20:24.000Now I know there are many other people that say that in America, but as a journalist, I can only go on people that I know and trust, right?
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02:26:00.000Alan Hart is a author, former Middle East Chief Correspondent for Independent Television News, former BBC Panorama Presenter, and the list goes on and on.
02:26:12.000Started out his beat during the Vietnam War over there.
02:26:19.000Please start back over with the information you were covering concerning 9-11.
02:26:25.000Right. To pick up where we were, Alex, it's not impossible, and this is my speculation, it's not impossible that it started out as an all-Muslim plot.
02:26:34.000But even if it did, it would have been very quickly taken over by Israeli agents.
02:26:40.000I mean, one of the great truths of history is that from almost the moment of Israel's birth, Israeli agents, either Mossad or the directors of military intelligence, penetrated every Arab government every Arab military organization, every Arab terrorist group, whether they were terrorists or not.
02:26:59.000And if we time later on, ask me to tell you this particular story, the penetration of the Abu Nidal group.
02:27:06.000But for now, let us say, even if it started out as an all-Muslim plot, Israeli agents inside would have got to know about it.
02:27:15.000And my guess is that they would have said to the bad guys in the CIA and their associates, Zionist associates and other neocon associates, hey, this plot is running.
02:27:28.000And the answer would have been, we'll use it.
02:27:32.000Because we know in the background that Paul Wolfowitz had already spoken in his paper, The Clean Break, about the need for a Pearl Harbor event, right?
02:27:45.000So the Zionists and the neocons, they were looking for a Pearl Harbor event to give them the pretext to go to war, not only in Iraq to get rid of Saddam Hussein, but
02:28:01.000the clean break document that the Zionists in America wrote for incoming Prime Minister Netanyahu in his first term talked about the need not only to get rid of Saddam Hussein, but to roll back Syria and eventually go for Iran.
02:28:20.000I want to continue fleshing this out from your experience and reporting for decades from the Middle East and interviewing Yasser Arafat and, you know, just countless other people.
02:28:29.000And as you said earlier, the founder of the modern state of Israel, who I believe you were saying you consider to be a friend.
02:30:24.000I've just found the British stage terror, the US stage terror, Uh, and so I want to speak about that because, uh, you, I mean, you're saying Israel found out about it and then said, hey, this is going on.
02:30:35.000Let's piggyback, uh, or, or, or piggyback on it.
02:30:39.000But, but for me, it's more than just piggybacking.
02:30:41.000These governments at every level were involved shepherding the operation.
02:30:45.000But Alex, there are so many other things.
02:30:48.000I mean, look, for goodness sake, there has been a complete Absolutely.
02:31:02.000Now in my view, Oswald didn't fire a shot.
02:31:07.000So, you know, America has an incredible tradition at leadership level in suppressing the truth.
02:31:16.000And the question you have to ask, surely, is in whose interest is it that American citizens, the voters, be denied the truth about so much?
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02:32:09.000It means all the world under their control.
02:32:11.000The United Nations would take over America.
02:32:14.000The Trilateral Commission would control the world.
02:32:17.000Invisible Empire chronicles how men of power and influence have worked I believe, first of all, that we now need nothing short of a world constitution for the global financial system.
02:32:30.000Global governance with the establishment of the G20.
02:32:33.000So it's going to be an inter-ruling elite and then everyone else.
02:35:08.000This is a psychological situation we're facing.
02:35:13.000Once they sell you on the lie of killing Kennedy in broad daylight, with hundreds of witnesses seeing the men behind the fence shooting, once you buy into that lie, now you're committed to buy into even more lies, like 9-11, or WMDs in Iraq, or the White House memo, where Bush is telling Blair, we can get a U.S. aircraft shot down and blame it on Saddam.
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02:39:45.000But the problem, I would go so far as to say, in some important respects, democracy exists least of all in America, because what passes for democracy is simply for sale to the highest bidders.
02:39:58.000It does include the Zionist lobby in association with the Christian fundamentals.
02:40:04.000It does include the banks, the drugs, the military industrial complex.
02:40:10.000I mean, it seems to me that it really doesn't matter who the hell is in the White House, who the hell is in number 10 Downing Street in London.
02:40:17.000They are, to a very large extent, puppets of a very tiny minority of vested interest.
02:40:23.000And that's why getting the truth out to mobilize citizens to make their democracy work is so important.
02:40:48.000The Defense Department, the private contractors are now taking over the police departments, the red light cameras, the surveillance, the iPhones, the computers.
02:40:57.000They are privatizing the police state and then literally absorbing the once-free society.
02:41:03.000But I want to expand on things that you brought up here, because I've studied 9-11 in depth.
02:41:08.000I said they were going to attack the World Trade Centers two months before it happened.
02:41:11.000I could see the preconditioning in the media that was taking place.
02:41:15.000And your research in the Middle East of how the Mossad and the Shin Bet have infiltrated all these groups, that's on record.
02:41:23.000We know According to Colonel Butler, the head of the Defense Language School, and the AP, and Newsweek, and other publications, they hide this in plain view, that many of the hijackers were trained at U.S. bases, and we know they were taking part in drills, infiltration drills, and believe they were government agents.
02:41:44.000And we know Israelis were paying for their houses, were paying for their apartments, were giving them money.
02:41:51.000I mean, this has come out even on Fox News.
02:41:54.000But that goes further than the Israelis just piggybacking on a Muslim operation.
02:42:21.000Yes. I mean, you pull out and you see one of the planes going into the building and you see these five guys virtually dancing all on mobile phones.
02:42:30.000Now, you know, and I'm sure most of your listeners know, that they were originally reported as being just foreigners, maybe presumed Muslims.
02:42:40.000And they tried to avoid arrest, but they were eventually caught.
02:42:44.000And surprise, surprise, they all turned out to be Mossad agents.
02:42:47.000Now, I think it's not unreasonable to speculate that on their telephones, they may actually have been calling in the planes to the buildings.
02:43:31.000And so I'm not saying one head of the Hyndra isn't guilty.
02:43:34.000I'm just pointing out like you did with the USS Liberty, and I did that in one of my films, Terror Storm, because I interviewed the admirals who were involved, and the judge advocate generals.
02:43:47.000I've interviewed Admiral Geist and other admirals who were on the phone when McNamara said, "No, the president says you can't defend the ship." And then they say, "We don't care.
02:43:57.000We're still going to defend the ship." And then the president comes on and says, "I want that GD ship going to the bottom." And he had taken control of the ship under national security previously and parked it
02:44:06.000Yeah, I mean, I've got a whole chapter in my book I've got a separate chapter on the whole Liberty Affair,
02:44:31.000and I bring it to an end by saying that what the Liberty Affair shows us is that there is nothing Zionism won't do to its friends as well as its enemies to get its own way.
02:44:45.000Well, I mean, Israel admits that they bombed Jews out of Iraq and out of Spain, you know, in the 40s and 50s to make them go to Israel.
02:44:54.000But, Alex, can I just say why I think we both are passionate for the truth, but can I just explain very shortly why the truth has to be handled with care?
02:45:06.000Because if it's not, it could provoke anti-Semitism.
02:45:12.000Now, I deal with this by saying there is one key to understanding, and all of my Jewish friends who are anti-Zionist agree with me.
02:45:23.000There is one key to understanding, and it's the difference between Judaism and Zionism.
02:45:30.000Judaism is the religion of Jews, not the Jews, because not all Jews are religious.
02:45:35.000Like Islam, like Christianity, it has at its core a set of moral values and ethical principles.
02:45:41.000Zionism, as Jewish nationalism, is a colonial enterprise which founded a state for some Jews mainly by Zionist terrorism and ethnic cleansing.
02:45:54.000That means that Judaism and Zionism actually are two opposites.
02:45:59.000Zionism conflates them so that it can accuse people like you and me, who are critical of Israel, of being anti-Semitic.
02:46:06.000But I'm nearly finished on this explanation.
02:46:09.000When you know the difference between Judaism and Zionism, you can understand, A, why it is perfectly possible to be passionately anti-Zionist, meaning anti-the colonial enterprise, without being in any way, shape, or form anti-Semitic, anti-Jew.
02:46:24.000More importantly, you can understand why it's wrong to blame all Jews everywhere for the crimes of the few in Israel.
02:46:32.000Sure, but I just want to be specific on this whole subject.
02:46:35.000To me, I don't even approach it psychologically from an issue of Jews or Germans or Chinese.
02:46:45.000The Chinese government does horrible atrocities and takes political dissidents' organs.
02:46:50.000What does that have to do with Chinese people?
02:47:22.000You know, the Saudi Arabians are constantly doing just unspeakably bad things.
02:47:26.000And so, you know, to me, the media, like you said, wants to make it about anti-Semitism.
02:47:32.000And we've caught the feds running all these white supremacist groups to go out and be inherently anti-Semitic to then poison the water from a real debate.
02:48:26.000sir, Alan Hart, in the time we've got with you, though, I want to have you back up soon about your amazing research and all the incredibly famous people you've interviewed, because, I mean, I love history and I want to get it from your perspective and also talk more about your three-volume book that's out, the third volume coming out soon, alanhart.net.
02:49:03.000Regardless of the players involved in 9-11, and we know U.S., British, and Israeli intelligence are all merged at the hip, so all three groups know what really happened.
02:49:14.000And there was a stand-down of our air defense.
02:49:27.000Because I just want to have the national debate about what is the true story of 9-11.
02:49:33.000Because none of us are safe if that doesn't come out.
02:49:36.000And we know governments have been caught staging events in the past to get us into war.
02:49:40.000And we know about Operation Northwood.
02:49:42.000So let's go back to Well, when they came to you, more details of this info, and then your self-censoring, because we know a lot of other people did that.
02:50:11.000I may tell you, when I first took the matter up with my world-leading technical consultants, I must tell you that their very first response was to say, Alan, it's possible that the planes did bring down the building
02:50:27.000because although the burning fuel was not enough of itself to create the heat to melt the steel, as the fire ravaged down and down and down through the buildings, consuming everything else, it may possibly have generated enough heat.
02:50:44.000So that was their starting position, Alex.
02:50:46.000But then when they got themselves and I gave them all the film and other visual evidence of what had happened, it was after their full studying of that that these world-leading experts, who I know and I trust, said, Alan, no, our first thought was wrong.
02:51:08.000There is absolutely no question if the towers were brought down by controlled explosions from within.
02:51:16.000So once that's established, and many of your own American experts have established that, there is just no getting away from it, Alex.
02:52:23.000If you look at the mainstream media, you and I, I think, would agree that it totally suppresses the truth, not only about 9-11, not only about many things, it totally suppresses the truth about the making and sustaining of conflict in the Middle East.
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02:55:57.0009-11's an inside job and they blew those buildings sky-high.
02:56:01.000And all the major Western governments up to their eyeballs in knowledge of it.
02:56:08.000And people inside government, it has the dual effect where people that are in the know get even more scared and self-censored.
02:56:15.000And the general public buys into the lie and then they're ready to believe the next lie about WMDs or whatever's going on.
02:56:21.000But when you have all of these, you know, these four or five big lobbies When they line up on an issue, and when it helps all of them, you better believe you're going to see a movement.
02:56:38.000Going back to these top engineers you're talking to, were they horrified after they saw the information A, and then B, Are you not seeing the massive awakening where people are just sick of self-censoring, and we are seeing everybody come out of the woodwork, just telling the truth now?
02:56:55.000And I think the system is very afraid.
02:56:57.000Well, Alex, I think something very important is happening.
02:57:01.000I mean, what I'm learning on this show All the polls show it.
02:57:22.000For the first time in history, both parties are universally hated.
02:57:26.000Well, the last time I saw a poll, I think Congress's rating was down to 21% and falling to 20%.
02:58:39.000And they're admittedly gearing up for it all over Europe, England, and the U.S. This has been a planned implosion, just like the Goldman Sachs documents show.
02:58:49.000Yeah, I mean, I think the truth is that almost all of our politicians loathe democracy, or what parties are a democracy, and typically like to shut it down.
02:58:57.000Well, we've seen Obama's people, Bush, uh, they're constantly saying, uh, what we saw, uh, the famous, uh, director, uh, came out, uh, Woody Allen just last week and said it'd be great if Obama was a dictator, we should just lock up all the people that disagree with him, and they're serious!
02:59:15.000But the name of the game, I think we're not disagreeing, Alex.
02:59:19.000The name of the game is informing people to give them the possibility, uh, empowering them to make their democracy work.
02:59:28.000And I agree, but to make it work, we've got to be hardcore, like you are, and just tell it like it is.
02:59:35.000You know, you go in and you got brain cancer and it's operable.
02:59:38.000You don't tell them they got a sprained ankle.
03:00:22.000That's why we're dumbed down, is because they understand we've had the greatest liberty in history here, and it's a contagion to the elite.
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