Join Alex and the crew as they discuss the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico and the possible evacuation of 20 million people from the area around the spill site. The crew is joined by Wayne Madsen of the National Security Agency and the Navy and Security Agency to discuss the situation.
00:00:00.000All right, in about three minutes, we're going to Wayne Madsen of waynemadsenreport.com.
00:00:17.000Of course he worked for the National Security Agency, for the Navy and Security.
00:00:21.000He's written for some of the biggest publications in the country and we're honored to have him joining us because he's got a lot of intel on plans for evacuations in the Gulf.
00:00:31.000We now see Council on Foreign Relations members and others who are in the news, like the Washington Post, saying that they may Have an evacuation of 20 million people when that oil comes ashore.
00:00:45.000But I wanted to finish up with Brandon and Kurt, both in the military, and then we'll continue into the next hour discussing this headline, New York National Guard units scan vehicles for gun confiscation.
00:00:59.000So now they're in Illinois, California, you name it, engaging in gun confiscation.
00:01:05.000actual operations and that video from Fox 23 in New York is up on prison planet.com right now in Paul Joseph Watson's article.
00:01:15.000So going to Brandon and Kurt, Brandon, give us your take on this.
00:01:47.000He said, thank you, thank you so much for you and your stature, because I was wearing my uniform.
00:01:55.000Well, that's their rationalization to not defend America, but it's now admitted world governments here.
00:02:05.000It's now admitted a private banking takeover is happening, and they're creating a new global currency.
00:02:10.000But you are saying you have had a good response?
00:02:13.000What percentage of people were favorable on the military base?
00:02:18.000Actually, I got about eight out of ten.
00:02:20.000Actually, one of my current co-workers actually called me a terrorist himself, and I was like, you don't even get it, but I had help from the other co-workers.
00:02:28.000So you're a terrorist because you believe that there's corrupt elements in the government that are taking our freedom?
00:02:34.000I mean, as a member of the military, you're supposed to defend the Republic from enemies foreign and domestic, and you're supposed to follow the Constitution.
00:02:46.000That cable guy is actually going to come by this week and burn a couple of your discs, copy a couple of your videos so we can show it to his family.
00:02:54.000And the last one, I'm part of the oil response team and we're gearing up.
00:03:00.000We're leaving next week to the Gulf and a couple of other guys are leaving in a couple of weeks to the Gulf.
00:03:06.000They said they're going to issue us desert Uniforms, desert camo uniforms.
00:03:12.000That's kind of dumb since we all have uniforms.
00:03:15.000For some reason they're going to do that.
00:03:16.000I asked about respirators and they said there was no need.
00:04:06.000The average life expectancy of Exxon Valdez workers of 51 years, the government admits that, from the dioxin and toxins and benzene in the oil and the dispersants, And so a lot of these people have already died or they're in the hospital and that's why they're saying nobody can videotape, nobody can talk to these workers.
00:04:23.000They send them to BP hospitals, BP clinics.
00:04:27.000I mean, this is one hell of a cover-up.
00:04:30.000We're going to Wayne Madsen to get his inside scoop on that in just a moment.
00:04:33.000Finishing up with Kurt and we're going right to Wayne.
00:04:35.000Kurt in Deutschland, who's in the Army.
00:04:42.000Real quick, I just wanted to tell you, with all the chemicals you talk about on your show, I do a lot of research on them and one of the things I've been using to sort of open people's eyes a little bit when they don't believe me is the material safety data sheets.
00:04:57.000All these chemicals, any chemical made has material safety data sheets made by the companies that make them.
00:05:21.000Yeah, and I think the funniest thing is the reaction you get, because first they start laughing when you start telling them, yeah, sodium fluoride's poisonous.
00:05:27.000They're laughing, so I come back with the material safety data sheet and put it on the table, like, it's poisonous.
00:06:07.000So, individually they're saying no, but in that group think they're following orders.
00:06:11.000That's why we need to have this debate and discussion now.
00:06:14.000But what do you think about this huge, long-term, covert operation to acclimate not just the troops and the police, but the public as well to accept this?
00:06:32.000I just don't understand how people... I mean, it's going on all around you.
00:06:37.000I try to tell people that, just look around you.
00:06:39.000When I'm talking to people, when I call the states back home, I'm trying to tell them, like, if you don't believe me, just look around you.
00:06:51.000I was driving to my parents this weekend with my children and I was on 360 and I looked over at the fire department and I saw military uniforms with police and with... No, no, no.
00:07:06.000That was about a month ago that I saw the military and the police.
00:07:09.000This was out by Lake Travis this weekend.
00:07:12.000I saw the Again, I'm just having a flashback to this.
00:07:16.000I saw the fire department, military, and police all running around doing some hazmat drill, and I didn't have time to pull over and even look at it because I had that limited time with my family.
00:07:26.000But that's just an example how it's just going on everywhere.
00:07:29.000And it seems reasonable to have the military training with police.
00:07:32.000But then they always have it first, oh, we're doing hazmat drills.
00:07:36.000And then next, we're going to help you get the guns.
00:07:38.000And by the way, I have from 1998 the internal army documents from Fort Hood.
00:07:45.000Uh, that are in my film, Police State 2 The Takeover, where they admit we are here for bomb disposal and for anti-firearms operations.
00:07:53.000So this has been going on quietly in the background.
00:07:55.000Now it's coming to the fore, because they know it's almost impossible to defeat something that slowly infiltrates, that slowly takes over.
00:08:10.000Wayne's always given us really good intel, and we just heard a military man say that he's being deployed from Virginia, regular Army, down to the Gulf.
00:08:20.000And we now see the Washington Post talking about 20 million evacuated.
00:08:24.000Wayne Madsen, from your intelligence agency sources in D.C.
00:08:29.000and from your sources there at the Press Club, what's the inside scoop?
00:08:33.000Well, I reported back in May that there were plans to evacuate millions of people.
00:08:39.000The first people to be evacuated would be those who have respiratory problems.
00:08:43.000I know several who are now seeing BP doctors who are saying there's a number of people coming into these BP medical facilities complaining of respiratory ailments and some have been diagnosed with what's known as chemical pneumonia.
00:09:00.000I know one person who actually has been diagnosed with that by BP and now people's pets are beginning to suffer from the same ailment.
00:09:09.000So we have basically BP engaged in a huge PR operation.
00:09:14.000They've hired every big time PR firm here in Washington and I'm surprised that the Washington Post is even hinting at evacuation because one of the problems we're seeing with the press Is that their editors are contacting their legal department because these companies that own the media may have vested interests with BP or Halliburton or these other companies involved in this oil disaster.
00:09:58.000I'll go over to Alabama, Mississippi, and Pensacola Beach to see firsthand what's going on, and I will document with photos and interviews and whatnot what I find out.
00:10:10.000Wayne, expanding on that, because you did Over a month and a half ago, you were one of the first people that I saw start talking about how they were going to evacuate the Gulf.
00:10:20.000I want to flesh that out and talk more about what your sources there in D.C. are telling you.
00:10:26.000But specifically, all the evidence I have says that this was deliberately blown, that they gave orders to Anadarko and Halliburton, that they knew would cause the well to come in early and to spill, and that it is a pretext to sell the carbon tax that BP and Enron founded and that it is a pretext to sell the carbon tax that BP and Enron founded with Al Gore back in the mid-1990s
00:10:49.000And it was meant to be a political distraction for the upcoming attack on Iran.
00:10:57.000And now you see 70-plus, almost 80 days, what will be 80 days tomorrow, of them blocking any type of aid or relief or the skimmerships or the counties or the cities, putting up berms or jetties.
00:11:12.000And so from every angle I look at this, this is a huge diversion.
00:11:17.000It doesn't matter if it destroys Obama politically.
00:11:19.000The establishment had already made the decision that his messianic image had been destroyed, and so they were going to basically blame everything on him.
00:11:54.000They knew what kind of oil was down there.
00:11:57.000I agree that this was to tie the US over in the event of a war with Iran.
00:12:02.000We would have enough oil to last this country for up to eight months.
00:12:06.000And I think it was a political decision to keep drilling.
00:12:11.000The Schlumberger engineers said, look, this thing is getting ready to go.
00:12:16.000There's an internal Schlumberger document that shows that their crew was out there and left that platform, the Deepwater Horizon, a little after 9 o'clock in the morning.
00:12:27.000And that, of course, the explosion was later on that evening.
00:12:32.000So we know this from documented evidence that Well, yeah, we have the Coast Guard report, but I mean, we even see conflicting how it was a 30,000 foot well, or it was 18,000 feet well.
00:12:43.000We've seen a lot of different conflicting information.
00:12:48.000One of the sources that I'm getting is from FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
00:12:53.000Whoever thought after what they did with Katrina that they would be, you know, revealing inside information, but they have been bypassed by the Coast Guard and BP.
00:13:05.000FEMA, you know, the rice bowl protectors, they are part of the Department of Homeland Security, but there are many people there who are I mean where does BP get the authority to tell reporters they can't videotape and now we have the Coast Guard saying federal felonies if you even try to videotape.
00:14:07.000Pat Allen knows exactly what he's doing by showing for BP.
00:14:09.000He's trying to limit their exposure and basically his Coast Guard personnel and BP's hired security people, which a lot of them are Wackenhut, and I also reported that some of the people chasing people away from the beaches are off-duty Alabama troopers in that state.
00:14:29.000So we have, basically BP is running the show, and I think this can be laid right to the doorstep of the White House.
00:14:39.000The media, I had a report up yesterday that in the Pensacola area, Mediacom, the Cable provider has blocked out the 5-530 local newscasts of the ABC and CBS affiliate because they're doing a lot of in-depth reporting and also blocking out the 6 p.m.
00:14:58.000national CBS and ABC news reports from the people in Pensacola.
00:15:03.000People are getting a black screen when they try to tune into the local affiliates and the national networks.
00:15:10.000And I think this goes to show the extent of the censorship going on as far as this disaster.
00:15:18.000Wayne Madsen, I think they have a name for this.
00:15:20.000This is called martial law, full spectrum dominance.
00:15:24.000And to have CNN reporting the First Amendment is now dead in the Gulf.
00:15:28.000And to have BP up to 10 miles in having police arresting reporters that just ask questions, that's been on the news.
00:15:36.000I mean, this is martial law in America.
00:15:39.000And the big issue here is what happens when that 150 million plus gallons of oil now being driven towards the shore by the tropical storms forming in the Gulf.
00:15:52.000What happens when a lot of that comes ashore?
00:16:19.000It's probably the worst, in many respects, because it's more widespread than Katrina.
00:16:27.000It's affecting now every Gulf state, of course.
00:16:31.000And every time there's a tar ball or a tar paddy, whatever they call these things that wash up, the initial response is, well, it's from a passing ship.
00:16:39.000We've seen this time and time again with the Florida Keys, the Dry Tortugas, now the Texas Beaches, and this is all part of an information... a Pentagon-grade influence operation, information warfare, if you will, to limit the news that's coming out of the Gulf.
00:16:56.000And, you know, it's just a shame that there's not more national media descending on the Gulf.
00:17:04.000I don't care if they arrest me or not.
00:17:07.000You know, we've got the First Amendment.
00:17:09.000I haven't heard that Mr. Obama has abrogated it yet, but he doesn't have the authority to do that.
00:17:14.000Well, they're saying in the Associated Press and the San Francisco Chronicle that it's a federal felony.
00:17:22.000Punishable by a decade in jail if you videotape any of their operations or try to talk to anyone.
00:17:28.000And so this is the new Gulag, and where'd Wayne Madsen go?
00:17:32.000Well, he tried to be a reporter, and you don't do that in the new Soviet America.
00:17:36.000I want to talk to you about your sources, your take on what's going to happen when that oil starts really coming ashore, because we've only seen the tip of the iceberg.
00:17:44.000And speaking of PSYOPs, The way the media's spinning it that we've got to buy BP shares, we've got to shop at BP and buy their gas, or they'll go bankrupt and can't pay for the emergency, and that Obama is against BP when they bankrolled him.
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00:22:32.000Going back to Wayne Madsen, thewaynemadsenreport.com.
00:22:35.000Okay, Wayne, specifically, what's the word on what they're planning to do when the oil starts coming ashore, A, and B, why would Obama block the counties and states from protecting themselves with berms and jetties?
00:22:55.000Well, I think what's going to happen if we start seeing these tropical storms, hurricanes, picking up this toxic soup in the Gulf and dumping it far inland, we're going to see the poisoning of the freshwater supplies inland.
00:23:11.000The streams, the creeks, the reservoirs, the lakes, etc.
00:23:15.000And that's going to extend this disaster even further.
00:23:19.000As far as Obama, I think Obama is not acting as President of the United States.
00:23:29.000Everybody was in the media fawning over her.
00:23:31.000You know, BP stands for British Petroleum.
00:23:34.000Maybe I missed it, but I saw no protesters in New York where she visited.
00:23:39.000It was fine, you know, protesting the fact that one of her big companies from her nation She's one of the biggest shareholders.
00:23:51.000She's a eugenicist, she's a globalist, she's a carbon tax monster who promotes all this tyranny and everyone's fawning over some demonic, inbred old woman that our ancestors fought a war against.
00:24:04.000I mean, it's a disgusting joke and that's a good point that you raved about Queen Elizabeth II.
00:24:14.000You were one of the first to say evacuations would happen, or that was the info you were getting.
00:24:19.000Now we do see the media starting to promote it.
00:24:21.000So again, what is Halliburton and BP and others and all these companies going to do as that oil comes in?
00:24:28.000Well, I think we're going to see the censorship and the PR spin continue.
00:24:31.000We'll get some reports, obviously, through the blockade, but I would note that my report on the evacuations was picked up by some websites, and just in the last week they printed retractions.
00:24:45.000Obviously, they got called by BP's big PR bigwigs and told to retract or at least amend The original story.
00:24:57.000What BP is doing is trying to limit the exposure of this disaster.
00:25:02.000And now we have them shopping around for investment money in places like Libya.
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00:27:24.000We have Chris Emery joining us in studio, one of the leading researchers on Oklahoma City, to look back at that government bombing operation used to demonize conservatives and patriots as they geared up to stage more terror attacks on themselves as a pretext to attack the American people.
00:27:42.000Meanwhile, a New York National Guard unit scanned vehicles for gun confiscation in the capital of New York, Albany.
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00:28:04.000We've got four minutes left with Wayne Madsen.
00:28:07.000Wayne, other tidbits here, because the statistics of the 51 year life expectancy of Exxon Valdez workers and the statistics I saw, the government admits it was the dispersants they believe that were the main thing that really caused the autoimmune diseases and cancers to go off the charts.
00:28:27.000They're using a lot more of this stuff this time than they did in Alaska and a lot more populated areas.
00:28:33.000How does BP think they're going to get away with this?
00:28:36.000Well, we're going to buy judges, and we already see them judge shopping for these civil suits.
00:28:42.000We see how they try to get these cases bundled to put them under Lynn Hughes in Houston, who has a conflict of interest.
00:28:53.000Martin Feldman, the one in New Orleans, who overturned the moratorium on drilling, he's got ties to the oil industry.
00:28:59.000And Mark Fuller in Montgomery, Alabama, is a part owner of Oceaneering International, which is supplying those deep submersible robots that we've seen taking the photos of the oil gusher in the Gulf.
00:29:16.000What people need to do is put pressure on their members of Congress to have these three guys impeached, or at least force them to recuse themselves.
00:29:25.000If they're impeached, Obama might try to put another pro-oil guy in their place, but filibuster that don't take any action, make them go to other judges who don't have any tie to the oil industry.
00:29:38.000At least each three judges, and probably more, are tied to the oil industry, and they need to be removed, recused, or impeached.
00:29:47.000All right, here's my last question on that issue.
00:29:51.000We know Obama is one of the main minions of BP.
00:29:54.000We know Rahm Emanuel had his apartment for many years paid for illegally.
00:29:58.000That's coming out in the Bogoyevich trial there in D.C.
00:30:04.000We know that they set up Cap-and-Trade with Enron.
00:30:08.000We know this is a top New World Order globalist organization.
00:30:13.000And then we have the media acting like Obama has his foot on their neck.
00:30:16.000Is that part of the PR ruse to try to not have it come out that Obama is basically on the payroll?
00:30:24.000Well, yeah, of course Obama entertained the BP executives of the White House in an announcement with his $20 billion cap on damages, and that's nowhere near what this is going to cost.
00:30:37.000I think in terms of over a trillion dollars, maybe closer to $2 trillion.
00:30:41.000But what price can you put on the Gulf of Mexico and the other oceans that could be affected by this disaster?
00:30:50.000And now they say it may just go on forever.
00:30:52.000Now they're not even trying to talk about fixing it.
00:30:57.000And the people who are complacent up here, it's a matter of time before this gets into the Chesapeake, the largest estuary in North America.
00:31:08.000They're already making emergency plans in North Carolina when this hits the Outer Banks.
00:31:14.000So this is not going to be limited to the Gulf of Mexico.
00:31:17.000And when it hits the Grand Banks off Newfoundland, the richest fishing grounds that North America and Europe depend on, then we're going to see, you know, basically you can just kiss off seafood as a staple.
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00:37:44.000New York National Guard unit scanned vehicles for gun confiscations.
00:37:52.000So the slow-creeping martial law is just intensifying.
00:37:57.000And before we get into the economy and the oil spill and the Iran situation, because as Roberts predicted a few years ago, when governments and banks get in trouble, they launch new wars.
00:38:08.000Let me ask him about the police state, because he writes about that.
00:38:12.000Dr. Roberts, good to have you back with us.
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00:38:18.000You've written a lot about the police state, but now we have the military more and more on the streets of America, really violating posse comitatus.
00:38:30.000Well, I suppose, Alex, they just want to make sure that we forget about the Constitution and our rights.
00:38:37.000I think they realize that they've created a mess for us, both internationally and domestically, both militarily and economically.
00:38:48.000And they want to be sure that the people will just sort of give up and accept their fate.
00:38:59.000What do you think the American people's response to this should be?
00:39:04.000Well, I think they should get very angry and be very well armed and very well organized.
00:39:10.000You know, one of the problems, Alex, as you know very well, is that so many Americans get confused about what patriotism is.
00:39:17.000So many of them think that being patriotic means supporting the government.
00:39:24.000They don't understand that it means supporting the Constitution.
00:39:28.000and that the government is always an enemy of the Constitution.
00:39:33.000And so the people, I think they're going to have to suffer quite a bit before they ever wake up and realize that the Founding Fathers were right, that your worst enemy is always your government, because it that your worst enemy is always your government, because it alone has the power to break you and control you.
00:39:57.000So I think we're a long way from the vast majority of American people coming to that realization.
00:40:06.000Well, I think you're absolutely right.
00:40:08.000People are going to have to get hurt a lot worse than they've already been abused.
00:40:12.000And, boy, I tell you, I read Bloomberg reporting 46 states are on the verge of going bankrupt.
00:40:18.000Federal regulators are, quote, ordering outside of law for large pension fund managers to, quote, invest in failed banks.
00:40:25.000Suddenly, CNBC reports that the Uh, graphs mirror the 1929-1933 depression graph.
00:40:33.000The New York Times says third depression.
00:40:35.000The London Telegraph says depression, that all the numbers show depression.
00:40:39.000Uh, this is pretty scary to have the mainstream media now going from denying we were even in a recession to saying that we may be in a depression.
00:40:51.000I mean, you know, it seems it was just the other day that we had recovery, recovery, recovery.
00:40:57.000As you know, I've said for some time that there's no recovery because there's nothing left to recover.
00:41:06.000Keep in mind that our pensions, or what remains of them, are in grave danger now because if we do continue into a depression, the government's budget deficit will become huge.
00:41:22.000I mean, it's already almost half of the current operating budget.
00:41:28.000So if you're having to borrow half of your current operating budget, you can see what happens if the economy gets worse and the tax revenues fall off more.
00:41:41.000And so what I suspect they will do, Alex, they will tell all the pension fund managers, the money managers, that they have to purchase government bonds, that they have to finance the government by purchasing the treasury's bonds.
00:41:55.000Now, of course, with the situation being as bad as it is, the bonds won't be worth very much.
00:42:04.000And so that's how they will finish off our pensions.
00:42:09.000Alternatively, they will simply say, well, we're going to have a capital levy.
00:42:30.000So people don't really quite know how bad it's going to be.
00:42:35.000And you can see that all the stimulus programs, despite the massive size, have failed to alleviate the unemployment and apparently have failed to stop the downward descent of the economy.
00:42:51.000So if you have the largest budget deficit in history and the lowest interest rates, And they can't stop an economic downturn, then you don't really have any policy left to use.
00:43:08.000So I think we're headed into a very serious situation that will, as I've said many times, undermine the dollar as the reserve currency, and therefore undermine our ability to import.
00:43:24.000Which will affect a whole range of product availability.
00:43:28.000Well, sir, that brings me to my next question.
00:43:32.000We have, of course, the New York Times, CNN, and others last week coming out and saying, oh, the U.N.
00:43:39.000says get rid of the dollars, the world reserve currency, have a SDR, special drawing rights, And that we'll still have the currencies of the world, but we're going to devalue those, and then all that will be left is this new bank-to-bank thing backed up by the carbon tax, and then it will be basically a global government run by private banks.
00:43:58.000So, this is out in the open, and then it's clear that's why they're wrecking things by design, is to force us onto the wreckage of our society that will basically be this new global government.
00:44:12.000And, you know, like you said last time when you were on with us about a month ago, that clearly the government is now trying to destroy America by design.
00:44:20.000Can you speak to the SDR, this move to a new level of the Ponzi scheme?
00:44:27.000Well, Alex, the SDR is a basket of currencies.
00:44:34.000It's made up of other currencies, including the dollar.
00:44:38.000In fact, the dollar is the largest component of the SDR.
00:44:42.000So I think when China and Russia brought that up, they were simply trying to point out that the United States was in enough financial difficulty that maybe the puppet states in Europe would distance themselves a little bit and stop supporting such an aggressive American policy in the rest of the world.
00:45:08.000Not only toward Iran, but it's also toward Russia, you know, We have Hillary Clinton in Georgia the other day rebuking Russia for occupying Georgia.
00:45:24.000So I think that that is not meant as a serious solution to the problem.
00:45:33.000And I think when the UN report raises it, it's really meant to call attention
00:45:42.000To the fact that there isn't a stable dollar and that the whole world relies on the dollar as reserve currency and that the behavior of the United States government running up the massive budget deficits with wars they can't afford, with bank bailouts they can't afford, and running up massive trade deficits by offshoring the industry and the professional service jobs,
00:46:12.000That I think it's directed at calling attention to the fact that American leadership is not long for this world.
00:46:24.000It's run out because the resource base for it Has run out.
00:46:30.000Doctor, when we come back, let's talk about how you see this unfolding then, and how an attack on Iran factors in, and why the establishment seems to think in their own writings that a large global war, as the Rand Corporation said two years ago, would somehow prop up the Anglo-American-Dutch-slash-Israeli alliance, and what you see happening to the U.S.
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00:52:38.000Now, the reasoning, I'm told, from the people that I still know in Washington, is that Syria they can ignore, because if they knock off Iran, Syria will simply voluntarily become an American puppet state.
00:53:31.000sanctions, Washington then added their own unilateral sanctions.
00:53:36.000Which Ron Paul has pointed out on the House floor, and he's read the international law and our national law, that's an act of war, and now in Germany they're not fueling Iranian aircraft?
00:53:58.000Well, the Russians said, you've double-crossed us.
00:54:02.000And the media will never differentiate between the UN sanctions, which are not so severe, and the American sanctions that have been added to them.
00:54:12.000And the ships that we have dispatched, allegedly to stop Iranian ships on the high seas and inspect their cargoes, another act of war, They're not going to simply be enforcing their own sanctions.
00:54:30.000So we've double-crossed the Security Council again, and we're hoping that some sort of instant will come out of this so that we can have some justification Some... I don't know what happened to the... So we can have some kind of a justification for the attack on Iran.
00:54:54.000Now if you go back to Bush's speech, it was January 29, 2002, when he says there's this axis of evil.
00:55:37.000And yet, Bush's neoconservative wordcraft has created this notion of a common enemy that we face.
00:55:46.000So I think, you know, what they are hoping is they can somehow come up with a color revolution.
00:55:56.000That with all this pressure on that the forces within Iran that we've been subsidizing will somehow come out on top to avoid the conflict with America.
00:56:10.000But if not, I think they're prepared to try to have some sort of a major military knockout blow because Anything less than that, if Iran responds, they probably could block the oil flows from the Persian Gulf.
00:56:25.000I want you to continue to break that down.
00:56:26.000When we come back, I'm going to also get into the fact that this is an act of war, saying they're going to board their ships.
00:56:33.000And Iran has said, you start boarding our ships, we're going to board your ships.
00:56:36.000And that's exactly what Cheney wanted back in 2007, that came out in New Yorker Magazine, was to actually attack our own ships and blame it on Iran.
00:56:44.000So we may see a false flag in the mix here as well.
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01:02:04.000Okay, going back to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.
01:02:07.000You were finishing up with Iran and talking about trying to get our ships in their own waters, boarding all of their ships, saying they're not allowed to have fuel, They're not allowed to have any finished goods.
01:02:21.000I mean, this is a classic act of siege of war, and the Iranians are saying they're going to resist.
01:02:27.000I remember Bush five years ago admitted in a White House press release that they had al-Qaeda connected terror groups inside Shiite Iran staging terror attacks.
01:02:41.000I mean, I'm not saying Iran is run by saints, but they haven't attacked us and they have put up with a lot.
01:02:47.000I mean, our criminal government admits they're in there bombing the daylights with terrorists inside Iran and I'm not saying Iran lays there and takes it.
01:02:56.000But I can't see Iran putting up with its ships being boarded.
01:02:58.000I mean, and how is our media going to spin that?
01:04:22.000And our plan for dealing with China is to cut them off from energy.
01:04:27.000So why would China go along with this?
01:04:31.000It seems to me that those are questions that I don't know the answer to.
01:04:37.000But the rest of the world is somehow complicit in this.
01:04:43.000And it makes no sense because the world knows that Bill Clinton lied about the Serbian-Kosovo-Albanian dispute.
01:04:55.000We know that Bush lied about Iraq and weapons of mass destruction.
01:05:01.000We have the International Atomic Energy Agency reports from the inspectors on the ground that there's no diversion of enriched uranium from the nuclear energy program in Iran to a weapons program.
01:05:15.000We have all 16 American intelligence agencies last year issuing a unanimous report that Iran abandoned its nuclear weapons program in 2003, seven years ago.
01:05:29.000Why doesn't somebody ask the president, how do you know they have a weapons program when your own intelligence agency says they don't?
01:05:57.000And Iran has tried, on what, three separate occasions, to give their uranium under UN supervision to the French, to the Turks, to the Brazilians, to enrich it where it's at a level that can't be used in weapons.
01:06:10.000And that only enrages the United States and Israel more.
01:06:17.000We've overthrown Iran's government twice in the last century.
01:06:21.000And it's just outrageous that they're positioning us this way.
01:06:25.000But from every expert I talked to, Ray McGovern, top CIA analyst, and many others, and just common sense in studying the region, there's close to 70 million Iranians.
01:06:35.000They haven't been under siege for a decade plus, like Iraq.
01:06:55.000And the system is going to use this crisis as a pretext to crack down on domestic populations in the U.S., grab pension funds, and do all the other things they do when we're distracted by a war.
01:07:07.000And so this is good for the system to start a war.
01:07:10.000And a lot of people like to rally around the flag when we are blowing the hell out of some poor group of brown people.
01:07:15.000And so I see the system going ahead with it, and all the indicators we've got out of Israel and out of the U.S.
01:07:21.000government is, they are moving towards a full green light on this.
01:07:24.000What's your take on the green light, and when you think it's coming, and what the aftermath of this war will be?
01:07:30.000Well, Alex, I don't think anyone knows when it's coming.
01:07:33.000I don't even think the people planning it know that, because they're looking for some sort of a rationale, excuse, opportunity.
01:07:43.000So, and the outcome, I don't think, is known either.
01:07:49.000If I were the Iranians, I wouldn't sit there and wait for the attack.
01:07:55.000I mean, why respond after you've been Badly hurt.
01:08:02.000Once I knew the attack was coming and nothing could be done about it, if I were the Iranians, I simply would take out the American aircraft carriers, I would let everything that I had fall on Israel, and I would start it.
01:08:18.000Because I wouldn't sit there and then respond with whatever I happen to have left after I've had a massive attack.
01:08:25.000You know, the other day, the head of the University of London's Center for International Affairs said that they're gearing up for the total destruction of Iran.
01:08:38.000You see, we've got troops in 10 countries surrounding Iran.
01:08:42.000We've stockpiled all these bunker-buster bombs.
01:08:46.000Apparently, we've even moved tactical nuclear weapons.
01:08:53.000And so, I don't think That they would be doing all of this just in order to scare Iran or pressure them.
01:09:07.000No, this is a full court press, just like before the invasion of Iraq both times.
01:09:12.000And you're right, they've said that if Iran fights back in any way under Bush, and Obama's continued this doctrine, that they will use nuclear weapons on them.
01:09:20.000So if Iran lifts a hand to protect themselves, the media is going to scream like it's the end of the world.
01:09:28.000And I guess Americans are going to sit there while their cities are being nuked, feeling powerful and running American flags out on flagpoles.
01:09:36.000Meanwhile, the same global corporate crime syndicate is destroying America's future.
01:09:41.000So I guess in a way, if Americans go along with this war, I'm going to have to say we're cursed and we deserve for the bankers to rape us.
01:09:48.000But I don't deserve to be raped by them.
01:09:51.000So what do you do as an individual living in Nazi Germany?
01:09:59.000Listen, Alex, you know, I think that if they do strike Iran in some horrendous way, one possibility would be that all of the colonized puppet state Muslims would feel so absolutely wronged and powerless that they could possibly overthrow the American puppets.
01:10:23.000You might see revolution in Egypt, in Jordan.
01:10:27.000You might see it even in Saudi Arabia.
01:10:31.000It's entirely possible that we would simply be going too far and undermine all the puppet regimes that we have already established there.
01:10:42.000So there are many potential downsides to this that don't appear to figure in the calculations of the Americans or the Israelis.
01:10:53.000And of course, if it disrupts oil in any significant way, that would be really detrimental.
01:11:02.000Doctor, doesn't Israel losing in Lebanon three and a half years ago, and having other setbacks, I mean, doesn't that give them some pause before they just head us into World War III?
01:11:14.000No, you see, if they get rid of Iran, Then there's no one to support Hezbollah and Hamas.
01:11:22.000And so that's the other reason we didn't get to for the attack on Iran.
01:11:27.000It gets rid of all the support for the forces that block Israel from stealing all of Palestine and southern Lebanon.
01:11:36.000See, Israel is chomping at the bit to simply evict the few remaining Palestinians and to seize southern Lebanon.
01:11:46.000Yeah, they want past the Golan and that water supply.
01:11:50.000They want the water supply from southern Lebanon.
01:12:35.000Well, you said earlier Russia has now been betrayed.
01:12:38.000We know they've been trying to make deals with Barry Sotaro, known as Barack Obama, and that he's broken those.
01:12:45.000And then separately we see the fear-mongering about these 11 Russian spies.
01:12:48.000You notice the Russian spies, and now Russia admits they're spies and want to do a swap, weren't infiltrating the government, because that's ceremonial.
01:12:55.000They were infiltrating Harvard and Wall Street, because that's who runs this country.
01:13:01.000Well, you know, they're not accused of spying.
01:13:30.000And it's also suspicious to me, Alex, that one of them confessed so quickly.
01:13:36.000It's almost like he's put there to confess.
01:13:40.000So maybe this is just another way of pressuring Russia to keep them sort of on the defensive and sidelined while we proceed with the roll-up of Iran.
01:14:01.000Maybe that's the explanation, because it was very strange to have the Russian president here meeting with Obama in the White House, and the Russians are falling all low themselves, trying to have good relations with us, despite us putting missile bases in Poland and everywhere else surrounding them.
01:14:19.000Turning Georgia into... Yeah, there's new press reports of more than 10 U.S.
01:14:23.000bases being covertly built all around Russia, and this hoax!
01:14:26.000I've had neocons say that I'm a liar, and that Russia did attack Georgia.
01:14:32.000I mean, even CNN had to admit later, and Fox, that indeed, Georgia had attacked South Ossetia, and that that was all a hoax.
01:14:41.000I mean, I mean, it's incredible the baloney the American people are fed.
01:15:31.000See the real question is why do all these countries who've got nothing to gain from this and potentially a tremendous amount to lose Why are they giving us the green light?
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01:21:30.000Damon, George, Kyle, Scott, while he's on with us in these next two short segments, but real fast, Dr. Paul Gregg-Roberts, what's your take on the Gulf oil spill, and the media being told they can't film or interview people, and federal felonies, and now the Coast Guard is our boss on land?
01:21:46.000It seems like any excuse government gets, it just stomps all over our rights, like Katrina with the gun confiscation.
01:22:43.000Well, basically, you know, listening to you talk to Dr. Roberts, I had a question.
01:22:48.000You know, being someone who has been educated, you know, as a degree in history, I did a bit of research, and I found that the 16th Amendment wasn't properly ratified.
01:22:59.000I mean, here in New Hampshire, there's no record that the state even ratified it at all.
01:23:12.000Well, what I'm wondering is, with the fact that our government is a business, and a business is there getting paid for their services, here's our government not acting in our best interest, where the 16th Amendment Is an illegal amendment, you know, because of Secretary of State Knox saying... Look, it's more than that.
01:24:20.000If we want to get rid of this lawless government, it's not going to happen at the ballot box, and it's not going to happen because we get a third party or libertarians.
01:24:31.000If it happens at all, it's because people Catch on and do something about it.
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01:27:25.000We're just jamming in a few calls here at the tail end.
01:27:27.000Damon in South Carolina, quick question or comment for Dr. Roberts.
01:27:34.000I think one of the reasons why Iran is not really fighting back yet is At least some people, I'm sure, in the government have bought into the whole martyrdom situation and that if they are sacrificed, at least the rest of Islam and the world will rise up and avenge them, so to speak.
01:27:59.000She tells me a story that when she was younger and perestroika happened and basically her parents' life savings went from having enough money to, you know, buy a lot to not enough money to even buy a bicycle almost overnight.
01:28:13.000I mean, it was a very short period of time.
01:28:15.000And my question to Dr. Roberts is, I thought about buying gold, but, you know, if you have what, you know, Roosevelt did or what our government did in the, you know, almost a century ago where, you know, you have a crisis and they come in and they start calling in all the gold.
01:28:30.000Well, you have to ignore that at that point.
01:29:00.000And you may find armed people waiting on you when you leave the store.
01:29:06.000I think everybody should have some sort of precious metal capability to see them through a period in which the money could be inflated away.
01:30:57.000They're encircling China, but then also allowing them to get oil, but to only buy it from the Western power bloc.
01:31:04.000And the stated policy is to encircle Russia and China, and down the road have a war with them.
01:31:10.000And I mean, how do these lunatic neocons that still run things sneak attack Russia, and now it comes out Cheney wanted to have nuclear war?
01:31:18.000I mean, these people are mentally ill at their foundation.
01:31:21.000Yes, when I was in Washington, in the government, and running around with big shots, the Neo-Conservatives, they very much desired to have a war with Russia.
01:31:32.000They wanted to defeat the Soviet Union militarily, and they got very angry when Reagan worked out a deal with Gorbachev and ended the Cold War.
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01:35:18.000And I know that the Oklahoma City bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah building was 15 years ago, but it's more important than ever because on all these television documentaries, they're invoking it again and saying that people that are against the New World Order and people that are against the federal government taking over in health care, they're terrorists.
01:35:50.000The feds have covered up who they are.
01:35:52.000But I think the fact that people exposed that there were some fake arrests there with at least two of the nine people caused that trial to fall apart.
01:36:00.000And the judge said this was politically motivated and just a PR stunt.
01:36:39.000Towards the end, I may try to get one of the other fellows in here who I've interviewed before, who's got great connections and research between Oklahoma City 15 years ago and 9-11 nine years ago.
01:37:01.000And Rogoff was the chief economist of the International Monetary Fund.
01:37:05.000Which is openly trying to set up world government.
01:37:07.000And he says, the fact that BP oil spill is on the cusp of becoming a political game changer of historic proportions, we may get a carbon tax, long advocated by a broad spectrum of economists.
01:37:18.000It is a generalized version of a gas tax that hits all forms of carbon emissions, including from coal and natural gas.
01:37:24.000In principle, one could create a cap-and-trade system of qualitative restrictions and accomplishments.
01:37:29.000Much the same thing, and it seems to be more palatable to politicians who will jump through hoops to avoid using the word tax.
01:37:36.000So the World Bank and the former IMF head, because it's one group, they're basically saying we're going to get a carbon tax out of that.
01:37:45.000But don't worry, we got thousands of emails with the heads of the UN program hiding the fact that the Earth's been cooling for 10 years.
01:37:53.000uh... stopped warming fifteen years ago because the sun cooling off UK inquiry finds emails do not undermine climate science UK inquiry finds emails do not undermine climate science and then of course we wrote months ago about this inquiry it's all headed up by top global warming globalist this is like having uh...
01:38:14.000Joseph Goebbels run the Nuremberg trials on Hitler.
01:38:18.000Or having Bugsy Siegel run the trial of Al Capone.
01:38:22.000Or having the Genoveses investigate the Gambinos.
01:39:25.000So just unbelievably important information.
01:39:28.000Now for the balance of the hour, turning to guys who we could have on for 10 hours.
01:39:33.000And they have their own radio show on Rule of Law Radio.
01:39:35.000We'll give you that website before they leave us.
01:39:39.000They're James Lane and of course Chris Emery.
01:39:42.000And they're both filmmakers, researchers, some of the best research out there.
01:39:47.000And so I wanted both of them to just spend four or five minutes a piece Explaining why Oklahoma City is important, giving the basic facts, and then you had some nice government documents about Jolly and West, the admitted mind control head, MKUltra doctor, along with Ewing Cameron, being McVeigh's doctor throughout this whole thing.
01:40:04.000I mean, you can't, a science fiction writer couldn't come up with stuff this bizarre and in our face.
01:40:10.000So, Will, talk about that today and who you think McVeigh really was.
01:40:14.000So, Chris Emery, why don't you take it first?
01:40:19.000The reason Oklahoma City is still relevant today is that it is a script that the federal government has followed for the last, I'd say, 35 years.
01:40:28.000And it's easy to see When an action comes up like 9-11 or these militia raids and so forth, you know, pretty much, you set up a clipboard and you know exactly what's going to happen.
01:40:38.000And even before I get into filmmaking and the truth movement, so to speak, or research on this, I was listening to your shows and I said, you know what?
01:41:22.000So, anyway, we want to bring a completely fresh perspective on this, information that has never been revealed before, and we are very grateful for having the opportunity to be on here to reveal this information.
01:41:39.000But, I mean, get into just the... Let's say you had three minutes on national TV.
01:41:45.000What would you say to the public about Oklahoma City to get them to realize what really happened?
01:41:50.000Twelve people were involved that we know of, as many as eighteen.
01:41:53.000The scripted two perps and nobody else involved is complete bunk.
01:41:58.000That is a slap in the face to the victims' family members and survivors.
01:42:01.000People need to realize that we are going to expose information.
01:42:05.000We choose to remember the deaths of these people and the truth versus a lie.
01:42:08.000Uh, the second thing is that there was so many people, so much resources, there was more money spent covering up this case than actually investigating in the proper manner.
01:42:16.000The federal government actually went backwards.
01:42:18.000They did a complete U-turn on all of the ethics, all of the integrity, all of the resources, the professional, everything they had, they threw right out the window just to make sure that this was covered up.
01:42:27.000Because we know that there were actually assets, government assets.
01:42:30.000Both in the United States and elsewhere, overseas, that were involved in making sure that this thing came down.
01:42:35.000They were supposed to stop it at the last minute and it backfired right at their feet.
01:42:40.000Well, and that's what they always tell the mid-level people, is, oh, we're going to stop this.
01:42:43.000Just like in the first World Trade Center attack, right before Waco, I mean, they hired an Egyptian security agent, Ahmad Salam, had him cook a real bomb, and he's going, look, you're going to let the bombing go forward?
01:43:16.000I think the one thing that stood out to me the most as I'm doing my research was the Ampho bomb, the story that it was Ampho that was used.
01:43:24.000The ammonium nitrate and fuel oil mixture would create a cloud of nitric gas.
01:43:28.000Well, we know because of the Terenshiki story that he was there within minutes of the bombing pulling Tom Hall out.
01:43:35.000Nobody had any problems with respiration.
01:43:37.000We know VZ Lawton, he was there, he's a survivor.
01:43:56.000So, I mean, that disproves that Amfo was used.
01:43:59.000We have evidence, the 40-year anniversary of a bombing in Madison, Wisconsin, is coming up this August.
01:44:05.000And 23 people were sent to the hospital After the first responders were sent to the hospital because they were overcome with the fumes.
01:44:14.000So we know that that's the pattern of it, and they expect us to believe this.
01:44:17.000It gets so cartoonish, it's almost like Wile E. Coyote tiptoeing in with the Acme bomb.
01:44:21.000And this is what they expect the American people to believe.
01:44:24.000Then we have the footage of them removing the other bombs that didn't go off.
01:44:28.000I mean, and parts of the building blown across the street, the opposite direction of the truck bomb.
01:44:32.000I mean, it just goes on, and then killing the cop that was exposing it, torturing him to death, and just, just, just, I mean, it goes on and on.
01:44:39.000Well, the story of Terrance Sheik, you mentioned the video that we did on that.
01:44:43.000We just thought it was important for that story to be told.
01:44:46.000He worked himself beyond exhaustion to save people that day.
01:44:49.000And he said that the official story was not how it happened.
01:44:53.000And, you know, I mean, he was concerned for his safety.
01:44:56.000Right before they tortured him to death, he thought he'd been poisoned, right?
01:44:58.000Yeah, he was sick, they were talking about getting him to the hospital, and I think to protect his family, he kind of isolated himself from them.
01:45:05.000And he was on the way to a meeting that morning, and he never made it.
01:45:12.000Yeah, the rope burns, possible rope burns on the neck, the angle of the shot, he bled out in the car, supposedly walked a quarter of a mile after bleeding out, and then shot himself at a downward angle.
01:45:24.000You know, again, ruled suicide immediately, and it's absurd.
01:45:28.000The information that we're getting, Alex, you let us know how you're doing on a break, is that there are good members of law enforcement, local, county, state, and federal level that have come forward, either admitted their identity or wanted to be anonymous, and there's a consistent pattern of, okay, this is the information that makes sense, what the federal government and their Like you said, the cartoonish story simply can't hold its own.
01:45:51.000So we go back and we say, okay, we're going to present the information that we know is factual, reams of documentation, every single thing that we're going to have on the film will have a bibliography, and there's going to be reference on all of that.
01:46:13.000Well, then you've got the FBI coming and brandishing guns at Hoppy Heidelberg, the head grand juror's house, and telling him, you're not going to call these witnesses, you're going to shut up.
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01:51:03.000Alright, we're going to go right back to our guest in studio, listening on the radio out there on the AM and FM dial, Global Shortwave Satellite XM.
01:51:10.000You can also watch us live, streaming video at PrisonPlanet.tv.
01:51:15.000Chris Emery, filmmaker, director, producer, living in Oklahoma City, known him for many years.
01:51:20.000And of course, James Lane, also doing great work, both making a Oklahoma City film set to come out in the winter of this year.
01:51:27.000Okay, you were going over incredible information about Jolly and West and other tidbits.
01:51:32.000Things that are documented on record, but are so bizarre.
01:51:36.000It's where truth is stranger than fiction.
01:51:38.000We've got a researcher, Wendy Painting, that has been uncovering these documents and she's actually getting through information that the FBI hadn't even seen.
01:51:45.000It was actual records for the defense.
01:51:49.000And we've got a hold of Jolly West's resume.
01:51:52.000And I always... That's McVeigh's doctor from the time he gets arrested to his execution.
01:52:20.000And now this is, Tavistock Institute has direct links back to when the Fabians absorbed the National Socialist Science through Project Paperclip.
01:52:29.000So, I mean, this guy was really the inheritor of that knowledge.
01:52:33.000And now he goes in to the location there in El Reno.
01:52:37.000In fact, guys, do a document cam shot of this.
01:53:14.000Well, uh, we see that, uh, they said that he was so drugged up, that McVeigh was so drugged up at that point that he would have admitted to assassinating Abraham Lincoln.
01:53:21.000Um, then, uh, Jolly West's protege, uh, took over after that, uh, Dr. John Smith.
01:53:26.000Now he is currently, uh, in, in psychiatric department at Guantanamo Bay.
01:53:30.000So again, these guys, uh, there's a constant... And they admit Guantanamo Bay has a CIA base on it where they do mind control study.
01:53:50.000You know, and the type of situation that Jack Ruby was going through and the mental stress that he dealt with and comparing that with McVeigh.
01:53:57.000McVeigh showed signs of post-traumatic stress, I'm sorry, Gulf War Syndrome prior to being deployed.
01:54:05.000Dental visits, I mean, just an enormous number of dental visits in the military.
01:54:28.000He was surprised to see that McVeigh was packing heat and he had several magazines of rounds on himself and in the car.
01:54:36.000But the peculiar thing about Charlie Hanger, a lot of folks don't realize, it was his day off.
01:54:40.000He's 62 miles outside of his precinct.
01:54:43.000What in the world is Charlie Hanger doing zooming up I-35 going after In fact, he wasn't chasing anybody in particular, he was just cruising, and he stopped McVeigh for a speeding violation.
01:54:53.000And then to find out his tag was off, he wasn't registered, there was a lot of things that certainly posed a lot of questions.
01:54:59.000Number one, Charlie Hanger wasn't supposed to be there.
01:55:01.000So that's a huge red flag right there.
01:55:03.000No chemical residue on McVeigh at all?
01:55:22.000580 tapes were actually copied and contracted for by the federal government.
01:55:27.000Uh, there were survivors that sued for 24.
01:55:29.000The FBI lied, said, well, they didn't exist.
01:55:32.000And they said, well, we lied, but here's another lie.
01:55:35.000So, out of 580 tapes, there were 120 of interest, which means they had three copies of 120 tapes.
01:55:41.000That's five times more than the original amount that they had.
01:55:43.000But the local news talked to the FBI agent.
01:55:44.000They say there's one from right over the truck.
01:55:46.000And you can see John Doe number two in McVeigh, big as Dallas.
01:55:49.000So, all of these things, this body of information literally comes at us by accident or by people that are conscientious, sitting on it for several years and they come and say, look, we need to get this out.
01:55:59.000What do you make of all these people that were in prison with him and Terry Nichols and others with these signed affidavits that McVeigh was like, yeah, I was in black ops, we were setting up militias?
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01:57:21.000The Trilateral Commission would control the world.
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01:57:32.000I believe first of all that we now need nothing short of a world constitution for the global financial system.
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02:00:59.000Now, going back to Chris Emery and, of course, James Lane, working on this this Oklahoma City bombing film, which will be out in the fall or the winter.
02:01:10.000Continuing, gentlemen, with what you were discussing there about just, you know, all the bizarre things here in these FBI reports and now the affidavits and all these witnesses.
02:01:23.000And McVeigh telling people, yes, I'm a government agent.
02:01:25.000And one day this is all going to come out.
02:01:27.000And then you see him on TV doing interviews.
02:01:29.000Just looks like he's bombed out of his mind.
02:01:31.000Looks like a complete drug addict on the side of the road.
02:01:34.000And he's got the top mind control doctor living because Cameron had died by then.
02:01:38.000Jolly and Wes there in, you know, shooting him up with this stuff.
02:01:43.000Well, you know, if they would just show us the tapes, you know, there's how many tapes that Jesse Trinidou tried to get?
02:01:50.000Jesse had contacted myself and a couple other survivors, members of the bombing committee, and he says, what locations should we ask for the tapes?
02:03:22.000Army during the first Persian Gulf War.
02:03:24.000In fact, he was so good that he was on the security detail for General Schwarzkopf, which means you really have to get your numbers, accuracy and everything.
02:03:41.000The Army was obligated to give him that medal.
02:03:43.000After he got out, the FBI lost track of him for, what we know, at least four months, as long as six months.
02:03:50.000And that's when he turned up with the Bill Bean story, up in South Dakota, or North Dakota, at, let's see here, it was the National Guard Training Base.
02:03:58.000Yeah, where they actually train in explosives.
02:04:00.000And there's clear video of him at the explosives base a year after he supposedly got out of the military.
02:04:05.000That's all been vetted out by linguistics experts from the University of Utah.
02:04:09.000Mr. Bean did a very good job, superb job, everything thorough research right there.
02:04:14.000He had at least four different identities that we know of.
02:04:18.000South Dakota driver's license, a Michigan driver's license, Arizona driver's license, and an Arkansas driver's license.
02:04:24.000He's just like Lee Harvey Oswald, who has now been declassified, was at a CIA base in Japan and was allowed to infiltrate Russia and then allowed to come back to the U.S.
02:04:35.000I mean, here are these spies shooting the president.
02:05:34.000I mean, basically, they're just, if they just told us they caught on fire or something, it'd be at least more believable.
02:05:38.000But they just, you know, they're like, well, no, that all of the tapes, outside tapes, in all the separate buildings, through separate security systems, all changed their tapes at the same time.
02:05:49.000But we have FBI agents who told the LA Times and others, because I have these articles, that they have seen the videos and it shows Tim McVeigh with John Doe No.
02:06:35.000There's some very good information to support that.
02:06:37.000Again, David has some solid info, and Wendy has been able to corroborate a lot of that.
02:06:42.000Yeah, and Chris was actually able to go out and scout some locations that was talked about in the book that there's no way that David Paul Hammer would have that knowledge of that, unless someone that was there told him about it.
02:06:55.000If I may preface this, Alex, before I decided to really jump feet first into this project, I took, in fact, Devin was with me, and we had a small film crew.
02:07:02.000We literally toured five miles around the crime scene.
02:07:05.000And we're trying to piece all of the stuff from the official story together.
02:07:21.000So we went through that book over a matter of about four weeks and we're looking at all of these locations and we're literally painting a mosaic of, yes, this does make sense.
02:07:29.000Physically, these guys, the 12 perps and the additional six, there may or may have not known that they're working for the government in various capacities.
02:07:36.000They were at these locations and it was a At least four different groups working together in concert to make this thing go off.
02:07:42.000It wasn't two lone nuts driving an Anfo truck in front of the Murrah Building.
02:07:47.000And how long would it take, you know, 30 minutes or more for them to drive from that park in Kansas to the location in Oklahoma City?
02:07:55.000And by that point, the ammonium nitrate fuel oil mixture goes inert.
02:07:58.000They would have to have stopped along the way and remixed it.
02:08:01.000The Arabs, these 3,000 plus brought in by George Bush Sr.
02:08:06.000and a couple thousand by Clinton, The media investigating them, claiming that they were connected in with some of these other people.
02:08:13.000From your deep research, is that a red herring?
02:08:15.000Because that looks like classic government ops, where they just have all sorts of other operations coming in at the same time to create a fog of war.
02:09:04.000It's appalling to see how they pull this off.
02:09:06.000Continuing with the concentric team, sorry.
02:09:09.000Uh, we have, uh, basically the two teams downtown.
02:09:12.000Uh, there were at least, uh, twelve individuals.
02:09:15.000Uh, they were sighted as early as six o'clock that morning, actually running, jogging the route, the escape routes they were going to take.
02:09:21.000Well, at the same time, the Oklahoma, uh, bomb squad is at the courthouse across from the, uh, Murrow building, uh, looking for explosives, and they never found any there.
02:09:32.000That says, uh, reports, eyewitness reports saying that as early as, what, six a.m.? ?
02:09:37.000there was the Oklahoma County Sheriff's Department and the ATF actually doing a roadblock, a bottleneck, 10 blocks away checking vehicles for incendiary devices.
02:09:46.000What about the head of the FBI anti-terrorism crew lying and saying he was in Dallas and then got a flight but then later it was proven credit card receipts he was there days before?
02:09:56.000Danny Colson drove up at least 18 hours before.
02:09:58.000The credit card receipts at the Embassy Suites does corroborate that.
02:10:01.000So, we're not quite sure why he chose to, as they say, distort the truth, but that's his deal.
02:10:11.000Ironically, Janet Reno removed him from the case four days after the bombing because he had basically turned and said, look, I show up for work every day.
02:10:19.000I'm supposed to do a good job on here.
02:10:20.000I want to investigate this case correctly.
02:10:22.000And she says, no, we don't need you on the team here.
02:10:25.000We're bringing in another team to completely corrupt this.
02:10:49.000She arrived four to five minutes after and she said that there were agents in full gear.
02:10:56.000And then you've got other witnesses saying that they overheard the ATF say, is this why we got the page not to come in today?
02:11:02.000So, I mean, there is an amount of evidence of foreknowledge.
02:11:06.000The FBI evacuation of the building, a separate building that morning, And it's because a very small part of the government's involved with foreign black ops and others that this does come out.
02:11:16.000People always say, well this stuff would come out if it was real.
02:11:19.000Yes, and in fact it's out in full view right now.
02:11:22.000And that's why we're able to assemble all of the information.
02:11:24.000Folks, I can guarantee you right now, you have never heard, I'd say probably 70% of this has never been Well I'll tell you what, for your safety, I mean obviously the film's coming out in the winter and I can't wait to carry it at InfoWars.com and get it out to people.
02:11:38.000I know you guys are great researchers and have done a lot of original work, but for your own safety and for knowledge out there, I know you've already released some of this footage, it's so important, tell people some of the new developments you've discovered.
02:11:50.000We have over 10 hours of footage that hasn't been seen by the general public before, and over 1,000 photographs.
02:11:55.000We've got excellent footage of the crater, and it's completely offset from the large bite in the building, and as General Partin said, that the building...
02:12:06.000First bomb would have been around the third floor.
02:12:09.000Well, you can actually see, I mean, it's probably, you know, 30, 40 feet offset from the small crater where the car bomb was, and then the floors are actually concaved around the third floor.
02:12:19.000So you can see, and that was the biggest bite in the building, where it blasted that out.
02:12:24.000You had people said that they heard what sounded like a rifle shot, a high-powered rifle shot, which is It works the same way with the C4.
02:12:34.000It wouldn't have been as loud of an explosion.
02:12:36.000And that's where you hear all of the survivors talking about rubble coming down.
02:13:41.000Now, you know, let's say you're Alexander the Great or you're Julius Caesar or somebody else.
02:13:45.000If you send out a detachment of, say, 50 guys into a valley where you know an army is set, but you want to draw them out and see their numbers, you know your 50 guys are going to get cut off and killed.
02:13:54.000But now your argument is that'll save 100,000 of your main army because now you've gotten that intel.
02:14:24.000Within 10 minutes, Bill Clinton said, talk radio, Rush Limbaugh, it's your fault.
02:14:28.000You know, and they're already digging this back up to demonize the renewed patriot movement in this country.
02:14:34.000We've got a researcher, Kay Beach, who's going to talk about the MIAC report and the Department of Homeland Security right-wing extremism lexicon and how they use the Oklahoma City bombing to demonize the Tea Party.
02:14:48.000It's like, oh, if you believe in supporting the Constitution and you oppose tyranny, well, you're a McVeigh.
02:14:53.000You're one of those government haters.
02:14:56.000And boy, I tell you, the Southern Poverty Law Center and that Chris Matthews documentary, they call me by my first name.
02:15:02.000Oh, Alex, we're not saying he's going to cause violence, but his followers are.
02:15:07.000So now I guess I'm, I've never talked to these people, but they're on a first name basis.
02:15:11.000That's how much they're, because I know they don't like it that I talk about how they were running on Elohim City.
02:15:16.000Well, we were doing the 15th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing press conference at the same time there was a tea party going on outside in Oklahoma City.
02:15:23.000And this is at the time that there was a lot of talk about militias again.
02:15:28.000And nobody was really even talking about it.
02:15:29.000They were talking about like a volunteer force to take over because all the National Guards deployed.
02:15:34.000And we, you know, we have a lot of natural disaster in Oklahoma and they wanted to have some volunteers ready to go in and help.
02:15:39.000And that's all that Charles... Civil defense.
02:15:40.000Yeah, 22 states have... Charles Key wants a militia to attack the government.
02:15:44.000And all of that information that came out was not on the tape.
02:16:11.000And it makes you wonder what they're cooking up, because in the public mind, they're trying to link patriot movement to militias to violence.
02:16:45.000And that's why it's so important for this information to get out now, because again, they're using it to demonize the Renewed Patriot movement in this country.
02:17:25.000Well, that's why we want to get the truth out.
02:17:27.000I mean, I believe that bravery is contagious, you know, and I'm a member of We Are Change, and I really take that to heart, that we have to be the change that we want to see in the world.
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02:21:27.000He shot one of them who got injured and they're gonna be says he's gonna face life in jail and they're to be released Because basically they're illegal aliens and God so this is your criminal government ladies and gentlemen who wants to take your right to defend your life and property just like England does Holland Oh Vander Newhoff is a really interesting fellow who I've interviewed before.
02:21:50.000We'll have him back on when the film comes out, but he's done deep research and he's part of the film team.
02:21:55.000Holland, you've worked on the Oklahoma City connections to Oklahoma.
02:22:00.000Just real fast, rattle some of those off.
02:22:02.000Well, we have a lot of concrete connections.
02:22:05.000For one, Hussein Al-Husseini, who was named as John Doe No.
02:22:09.0002 by Jayna Davis at KFOR-TV in Oklahoma, filmed, named specifically by witnesses on the scene, as that was the man who was in the truck, Hussein Al-Husseini.
02:22:19.000He later works for Boston's Logan Airport on the day of 9-11.
02:22:23.000And as I recall, two of the hijackers flew out of there, and that's where their luggage went through, and they found incriminating will, and so forth.
02:22:30.000And then you have like Melvin Lattimore, a man whose original credit cards were used in the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993.
02:22:36.000He was a known confederate of Tim McVeigh and friends of Tim McVeigh in 1995 before the bombing.
02:22:42.000And later on he was a roommate of the 20th hijacker, the 20th 9-11 hijacker.
02:22:47.000And the guy that got his head sawed off, he was in an airbase and loaned his laptop to one of the 9-11 hijackers.
02:22:52.000Well, he was on a bus in Oklahoma City and loaned his laptop to one of the hijackers who used it to email the 20th hijacker in Minnesota.
02:23:12.000So, I mean, there was at least one researcher who appeared before the 9-11 Commission to testify that Norman, Oklahoma was home to an Al-Qaeda cell prior to 9-11.
02:23:21.000Well, no one's ever been prosecuted or arrested in this cell, so obviously what was going on, there may have been some kind of logistics or support cell going on.
02:23:29.000But there were a lot of things going on, and the only way to view all of these events, World Trade Center 93, Oakland City, 9-11, is that they're not isolated.
02:24:03.000And unless, and one of the points about this movie is unless we confront the people who are doing this, bring them to justice, this is going to keep on going.
02:24:10.000It's going to keep on happening and each time it's going to get worse.
02:24:16.000I started researching the case, and I started doing some research on my own, putting out a hand-printed newsletter that I would hand out, and I met Chris Emery at an event where he's handing out copies of the final report.
02:24:27.000We started collaborating at other conferences, truth conferences, low-power FM's, radio shows, and this is just another step in trying to expose the truth.
02:24:59.000If I may, if we have a second, I want to give a special mention to Devin Winter, our director of photography and our production coordinator.
02:25:05.000Devin has actually followed a lot of your work for the last seven, eight years.
02:25:08.000He came on board with this film and he says, I'm in because I want the truth to come out.
02:25:12.000And he's actually done a lot of the commercial interviews for the official story.
02:25:17.000He says, I want to come on board with your That's wonderful.
02:25:19.000We look forward to interviewing him when the film comes out.
02:25:21.000Because if they keep staging these terror attacks and blaming it on the Patriots, we're going to lose this war to defend America and save the Republic.