Israel has 8 days to strike Iran's nuclear site. David McMichael, a former CIA analyst, joins us to deal with it. Also, the Pentagon warns China is growing its military power. China targets U.S. troops with arms buildup. China tests space station module to launch in the high seas. North Korea flies drone over sensitive border with South Korea.
00:00:45.000David McMichael, a former CIA analyst, will be joining us today to deal with the top story.
00:00:53.000Israel has eight days to hit Iran's nuclear site.
00:00:58.000That is now in the French news agency Today.
00:01:00.000In the top story on the Drudge Report, Kurt Nemo noticed these drumbeats in the last two days and has written several articles dealing with it.
00:01:09.000The neocons are saying that they need to strike by the 21st, 22nd or 23rd because they don't actually turn the reactor on until a few days after that.
00:01:24.000Israel has eight days to hit Iran nuclear site.
00:01:28.000Israel has eight days to launch a military strike against Iran's Bashir nuclear facility and stop Tehran from acquiring a functioning atomic plant, a former U.S.
00:01:39.000Iran is to bring online its first nuclear power plant built with Russian help on August 21st when a shipment of nuclear fuel will be loaded into the plant's core.
00:01:49.000At that point, Bolton warned it will be too late for Israel to launch a military strike against the facility because an attack would spread radiation and affect Iranian civilians.
00:02:00.000So, they have to attack it to save Iranians.
00:02:06.000Once the uranium, once those fuel rods are very close to the reactor, certainly once they're in the reactor, attacking it means a release of radiation.
00:02:27.000The 21st is one, two, three, four, five days away.
00:02:31.000It goes on, absent an Israeli strike, Bolton said, Iran will achieve something that no other opponent of Israel, no other enemy of the United States, the Middle East, really has, and that is a functioning nuclear reactor.
00:02:43.000But when asked whether he expected Israel to actually launch attacks against Iran within the next eight days, Bolton was skeptical.
00:04:54.000We'll also get into Dr. Paul Craig Roberts' article, The Ecstasy of Empire, published at InfoWars.com.
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00:08:16.000What was it, four months ago, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts?
00:08:20.000Former head of policy at the Department of the Treasury under Reagan, the father of Reaganomics, Wall Street Journal editor, syndicated columnist, retired.
00:08:28.000But then he came right back from retirement because you can't keep a good guy down and said, hey, I'll start sending you my columns to publish at Infowars.com.
00:08:37.000And we're glad he did that because every week or so the Drudge Report is now linking to his columns, something the Drudge Report didn't do previously.
00:08:45.000And his latest article is The Ecstasy of Empire.
00:08:48.000And the Drudge Report linked to it yesterday.
00:09:49.000He will be joining us to break down, of course, the most important news that we're facing.
00:09:54.000We notice that key neocon operatives, like Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic, and, of course, Mr. Bolton, a former UN ambassador under Bush, are saying Israel has got to hit the Bashir reactor.
00:10:09.000Within three days of the fuel rods being delivered on the 21st.
00:10:13.000They're supposed to be inserted by the 24th or 25th because then it would create a Chernobyl-type meltdown situation if they bomb an active reactor.
00:10:23.000So they're pushing this like it's some type of humanitarian preemptive strike.
00:10:26.000And of course, three weeks ago, Ray McGovern, former top CIA analyst, said the word is They've green-lighted a possible attack.
00:10:35.000They're locked and loaded with the Israelis and the U.S.
00:10:37.000military with a bombardment strategy targeting hundreds of installations inside Iran.
00:10:43.000They're already preparing the blockade, which is an act of war, according to the Geneva Convention and what Ron Paul has talked about from the House floor.
00:10:50.000So Israel has eight days to hit Iran's nuclear site Bolton says AFP, this just came out in the French news agency and Reuters in the last three hours, proud of Kurt Nemo catching all this war chatter over the weekend, having the first big article out on it yesterday morning with the headline, Iran attack within the next week.
00:11:10.000So we will continue to break all of this down coming up and we'll look at the economy and the state of affairs with Dr. Roberts who will be popping in for 30 minutes at the bottom of the next hour.
00:11:22.000We'll have wide open phones in the third hour of the transmission today.
00:11:30.000First I wanted to get into the Pentagon and the media are really beating the drum now that China is our enemy, and that China is a threat.
00:11:42.000And of course, that's true, but not in the perspective, not in the way that they are presenting it.
00:11:49.000If you look at the deals that Richard Milhouse Nixon, under Kissinger's directives, engaged in back in the 1970s, and you look at what the ambassador to China set up, George Herbert Walker Bush, in the seventies, The Globalist, the Council on Foreign Relations and others, the Anglo-American elite, went to China and said, we will make you the heart of the future world government.
00:12:11.000In the next century, the 21st century, will be the Chinese century.
00:12:16.000We want to move our main base of operations over to China.
00:12:20.000They then, in subsequent administrations of Ford, Reagan, Uh, George Herbert Walker Bush, Clinton, George W. and now Obama got laws passed and engage in regulatory maneuvers.
00:12:36.000Where almost all of our industry moved to China.
00:12:40.000They raised the taxes, increased the regulations, the harassment on the United States, and then put tax incentives in to move industry to China.
00:12:49.000The United States countless times has given our weapons technology to China.
00:12:54.000They've conduited the technology to Israel, who publicly sells it to the highest bidder.
00:13:00.000Not just to China, but to South Africa, France, anybody else, Russians, who will buy it?
00:13:07.000You're not supposed to criticize what Israel's doing, basically taking over many areas of the Pentagon, and creating the Office of Special Planning that creates the fake WMD propaganda, and that uses the private contractors, privatizing the military, to feed disinfo.
00:13:26.000I mean, it's just incredible how this country's been taken over.
00:13:29.000So, the United States, for all intents and purposes, isn't even manufacturing most of its military hardware in the United States.
00:13:36.000It's going on in Western Europe, Eastern Europe, and now, in some cases, China.
00:13:42.000They're even starting some of their weapons contracts for some of the components in Vietnam, in South Korea.
00:14:05.000And the United States is having its credit card run up into astronomical stratospheric red to fund the globalization.
00:14:15.000Then the United States is to be blamed and is being blamed for all the ills of the world.
00:14:21.000You see this with global media consortiums like News Corp.
00:14:26.000In European publications they own, they demonize the United States, but then domestically they push the wars and all the propaganda and tell us that we're fighting a holy fight for Christendom in the clash of civilizations.
00:14:39.000So they're playing all different sides off against each other in this complex balancing act.
00:14:46.000And now the Pentagon comes out and says, oh my gosh, China Is now the second biggest economy.
00:14:52.000Within 12 months they're set to be the biggest economy.
00:14:58.000Within three years they will completely dwarf us, not only overtake us, and China and India and a hundred plus other, hundred plus other, it's over 160, third world and developing world nations, have zero environmental standards, zero carbon taxes, and then tax incentives for our businesses to move there.
00:15:18.000Of course the country's going into cardiac arrest.
00:15:22.000Of course all the new state and federal taxes are causing the economy to go into cardiac arrest even faster.
00:15:29.000This is all a consolidation operation.
00:15:33.000So all these people in the media that wrap themselves in the American flag and say that if you're against wars, that if you're against invasions, that if you're against all of this tyranny, All of these individuals that are out there promoting this, they know full well what they're doing.
00:15:55.000They know full well what they are a part of.
00:15:59.000And then they always sell you on naked body scanners and checkpoints and surveillance cameras and face scanning and license plate reading cameras on their fighting Al Qaeda.
00:16:10.000But then you discover Al-Qaeda is their creation to destabilize whether it's southern Serbia or whether it's Pakistan or Afghanistan.
00:16:23.000of the training that goes on, I'd say over 95% of it or more, is not for fighting turbaned men from Central Asia or the Middle East.
00:16:31.000The entire architecture of this is designed and publicly admitted to be for the American people.
00:16:37.000There's a giant, illegal, covert intelligence operation now going public.
00:16:43.000Because they've completed it of threat fusion centers, federalizing police with the CIA in control of the bases, merging local police with the military.
00:17:02.000They're coming in with the carbon taxes, they're federalizing everything, and then they tell you that China is supplanting the United States when it's the globalist and the Council on Foreign Relations, just search the term CFR.org, the Chinese century.
00:17:20.000And they brag with pleasure in countless C-SPAN productions in the last decade.
00:17:25.000Before that, they were having secret meetings and the CFR was almost completely secret.
00:17:30.000Now they're out in the open, saying that this was part of their plan to where we're totally dependent on China, who is authoritarian, ...and has enslaved their people, and who is a eugenic state, carrying out forced abortions and fantaside, one-child policies, and mass drugging of their water supplies, just as our water supplies are drugged.
00:17:54.000And now they're giving the public the narrative of why we're collapsing, blaming it on the Communist Chinese, when they're only a large engine in the larger structure.
00:18:06.000They're just one of the larger cogs in all of this.
00:18:09.000Pentagon warning over Chinese military buildup.
00:18:23.000territory of Guam, the Pentagon said, well yeah, now they menace U.S.
00:18:27.000shores on the east and west coast, Atlantic and Pacific with their nuke subs.
00:18:31.000In an annual report to Congress, the U.S.
00:18:34.000Defense Department said Monday that China was ramping up investment in an array of areas including nuclear weapons, long-range missiles, submarines, aircraft carriers, and cyber warfare.
00:18:47.000Oh, but the government will take over the free internet and shut down free speech and get rid of net neutrality to protect us from the communist Chinese they created.
00:18:58.000And I remember old-timers writing about this, Anthony Sutton who worked for Congress and others, that in 49 Mao Zedong had been put in power and that Chiang Kai-shek had been double-crossed by the CIA, and then years later I saw the CIA section chief In an interview from 1949, bragging that they put Mao in, and David Rockefeller's now written books about it, bragging how they put Mao Zedong into power, who killed conservatively 64 million people.
00:19:26.000The Chinese government says 80 plus million.
00:19:30.000The balance of cross-strait military forces continues to shift in the mainland's favor, the report said.
00:19:36.000The Pentagon said China's buildup on the Taiwan Strait has continued unabated despite improving political and commercial relations since the island elected Beijing-friendly President Mei Ying-jeou in 2008.
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00:23:59.000I want to quantify what's happening very simply.
00:24:10.000Globalism is where megacorporations come in, buy off your federal and local governments, and have the laws change to give them unfair traded balance so they can consolidate control over every industry. - Great.
00:24:28.000Then they move into the police state phase, knowing that those populations are going to resist them.
00:24:33.000This is in the IMF and World Bank documents that linked in 2002.
00:24:39.000And of course, the John Perkins economic hitman, he wrote about it, many others have exposed it.
00:24:44.000Then they come in with a police state, which they also privatized, so they make profits off of oppressing you.
00:24:58.000But only a dumbed-down public can be defeated by this system, if you're aware of it, and how illegitimate it is, and cut through the propaganda and stand up and say no, their system will fail.
00:25:12.000But because it's always covert, and they always deny to your face what they're admittedly doing, It's hard to defeat when you've got a television head, couch potato population that doesn't see themselves in the role of freedom fighters.
00:25:29.000And if you go back to China 150 years ago, it was taken over by Western powers and divided into more than 10 different units.
00:25:37.000In some cases there were more than 15 regions, generally about 11, controlled by different European powers, including the United States.
00:25:45.000The United States had a sector of China that it controlled and exploited.
00:25:49.000And so the United States as we know it doesn't exist.
00:25:53.000It's been absorbed by the North American Union System and the Transatlantic Treaty of 2007 with the EU under its rules.
00:26:01.000And under these new rules, the Bill of Rights and Constitution And the Congress itself has become ceremonial.
00:26:09.000They're nothing but managers and errand boys that carry out these larger operations.
00:26:16.000And so as this program of consolidation accelerates, they will continue to play nationalist tensions to get more defense funding in the name of countering China that they have built up.
00:26:30.000but they gave china the panama canal uh... they relinquish many areas of africa to china they relinquish many areas of uh... asia to china they have allowed it china to build up high-tech weapon systems they've given china the systems and china is now the new model of the new world order so the united states is just a exploitation ground by the globalists just like china is
00:26:58.000The American people are going into an authoritarian system.
00:27:02.000Our old free society is being phased out.
00:27:05.000We are more and more becoming a unfree nation just like China has been under tyranny for centuries.
00:27:18.000A bunch of unelected bureaucrats paid off by major corporations looting their population.
00:27:24.000It's the same global cabal, a global corporate governance system That has removed checks and balances and is setting up high-tech surveillance and oppression grids and private mercenary systems to oppress what's left of free humanity.
00:27:44.000And so the United States, while it's been funding the global empire, has been getting the blame for the crimes of the globalists.
00:27:53.000And now as we enter the final phase, the United States is being fully bankrupt and hung out to dry, and Maury Strong and Coffee Anna and all these globalists are moving to China as their new command base.
00:28:07.000And so we see the Pentagon now hyping all of these threats, saying, oh, there's a warning over Chinese military.
00:28:13.000China's military power is growing, AP reports, and challenging them.
00:28:23.000Pentagon cites anti-access missiles in report that they're aggressively building up military forces to strike U.S.
00:28:30.000forces in the Western Pacific and elsewhere, as part of the Pentagon calls an array of high-tech anti-access missiles, submarines, and warplanes in its latest annual report.
00:28:42.000So again, we're all looking at this as a U.S.
00:28:44.000versus China situation when it's the globalists above our nations playing us off against each other and profiting off the enslavement in both areas.
00:28:58.000The game of military bluff that China and the United States are playing off the Chinese coast could erupt in full-fledged crisis, hitting the arteries of global trade if the Pentagon worries about missteps ever to come.
00:29:12.000China has been investing big slices of its growing wealth.
00:29:16.000We buy DVD players and television sets and toys and furniture and linens and everything else, and they buy weapons.
00:29:25.000And they produce it in their own country, so they have an industry.
00:29:29.000If you're going to have a war economy, it should at least help your own nation.
00:29:32.000But notice, we don't get to have that here.
00:29:35.000China has been investing in big slices of its growing wealth in modernizing its military and turning its once cranky navy into a blue water fleet that can project power far from its shores with nuclear subs and aircraft carriers.
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00:33:23.000Coming up in an hour, former head of policy of the Department of Treasury, former Wall Street Journal editor, best-selling author, columnist at Infowars.com with a syndicated column.
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00:33:39.000Now private corporate interests are completely destroying this nation by design, and that if there is not a revolution in this country in the near future, his quote is here at the end of the story.
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00:36:13.000in history from the University of Oregon.
00:36:17.000And it just goes on and on with all of his whistleblowing.
00:36:21.000He resigned from the CIA in July of 83 because he felt the agency was misrepresenting intelligence for political reasons.
00:36:28.000But we see a lot of that today, don't we?
00:36:30.000Where these contractors that have a stake in exaggerating things to get funds are caught lying constantly, or the lies about WMDs in Iraq.
00:36:38.000His public resignation from the agency gave credence and notability to the vocal indictment of the Reagan administration's policy towards Central America.
00:36:47.000He was considered the key witness in the Nicaragua versus the United States.
00:36:50.000The case was heard in 86 for the International Court of Justice.
00:36:55.000He's a member of Veterans of Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, founded by Ray McGovern, and the Association of National Security Alumni and the Association of Responsible Dissent, an outspoken critic of the Iraq War and the Bush Administration.
00:37:08.000He has participated in six documentary films, and journalist John Pilgers described him as a CIA renegade.
00:37:15.000And Ray McGovern said that he's one of the most important experts we can talk to about Fake intelligence leading us not just into Iraq, but now Iran.
00:37:23.000And we have him on because in the last two days, Bolton, the former ambassador to the UN, and Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic, who put out key disinfo about WMDs in 2002, they're back all over national television promoting that Iran must be bombed.
00:37:45.000As Bolton's saying, by next week, middle of next week, here's the headline, Israel has eight days to hit Iran, site Bolton says, before they fuel the reactor, because then if they hit it, it'll cause a Chernobyl-type meltdown and rain-down radiation in the region.
00:38:00.000It'll obviously be seen as a serious crime against humanity.
00:38:17.000Well, Ray McGovern, we were getting him on, he's a regular contributor to the show, but he was going to be traveling today, so he couldn't come on.
00:38:24.000He recommended you and said that you're even more senior in your knowledge, so that's quite a compliment coming from Ray, who we've seen stunning accuracy in his trends forecasting.
00:38:33.000Let's get into, I mean, you want to start at the beginning with Iraq, or even before, with disinformation you exposed in the 80s, or where we're going with Iran?
00:38:42.000Yeah, well look, I mean, you can just take it as a general statement that disinformation is a principal activity in a wartime situation.
00:38:56.000And now that we're involved in a war on terror, as we were previously involved in the Cold War, part and parcel of the government direction of that is disinformation.
00:39:14.000And this is designed, on the one hand to ensure public support for the policy decided upon by those in control of conduct of foreign policy.
00:39:31.000And the second aspect, of course, is to delude and punish the designated enemy.
00:39:39.000So disinformation is, let me put it this way, and going back to the CIA background and the conduct of covert operations, a rule of thumb is 75% of covert operations is disinformation.
00:39:56.000I mean, just so that tells you what trust you can have in the statements that are produced by government officials.
00:40:04.000And I've now seen public statements by the Pentagon in the last few years that now 90% of what they do is psychological warfare.
00:40:12.000So they're converting even more into brainwashing, propaganda, disinfo, or info war, as they call it.
00:40:24.000There are many aspects to that, going back to the Manchurian candidate days.
00:40:32.000But yeah, that is a huge part of what is vastly expanding at Pentagon Plus, of course.
00:40:41.000This huge apparatus that was exposed in those remarkable articles of now ten days ago or two weeks ago in the Washington Post on this huge expansion of this national security apparat.
00:41:11.000I mean, isn't this really the end of America?
00:41:14.000A private, corporate, contractor, offshore takeover of frontline combat troops, intelligence, supply, logistics, I mean, everything.
00:41:26.000And you look at these companies, these are international.
00:41:28.000This isn't the communist Chinese or the Arabs or the Russians overthrowing the United States.
00:41:35.000It's the private intelligence takeover and the two trillion dollars a year of the Defense Department and the contractors are gobbling up.
00:41:42.000Yeah, well, look, I mean, you don't have to speak of the end of America.
00:41:48.000You might reasonably speak of the end of America, the America that perhaps you and I grew up in.
00:41:55.000But it certainly speaks to the points made so accurately by Howard Zinn, the recently deceased Howard Zinn, I hate to say, in his numerous books on Uh, you know, the people's history and so forth is looking at what you're dealing with.
00:42:15.000And I'm glad you raised the point, Alec, on the use, the privatization here, the use of corporations and this.
00:42:25.000The law requires, as I said right now, the law, as reported in the courts of the United States and elsewhere as well, controlling corporate behavior, is that the fiduciary responsibility of the corporate leadership is to its shareholders.
00:42:49.000And it is obliged, again, by law, to take all actions which will benefit its shareholders.
00:42:57.000And if this means in seeking contracts in the national security area to manufacture or enhance the alleged threat, which would justify their getting a contract, that's what they're going which would justify their getting a contract, that's what they're going to And the more influential these people become, and God knows they've been influential for a very long time, this is the way it's going to go.
00:43:27.000I don't consider that the end of America, I'm just considering it the worsening of America.
00:43:33.000Well, I mean, look, the CIA is barred under federal law from domestic operations, but it's come out they're even running local fusion centers, so they don't care.
00:43:43.000And now they've got private contractors and the CIA and the Army picking targets and running drone attacks.
00:43:52.000And so that really is a covert takeover of the government.
00:43:56.000When you have these private interests in many areas now dwarfing people that are in government service.
00:44:05.000And I had Hamid Gul, the former head of Pakistani intelligence on yesterday.
00:44:11.000You know, he was saying that, look, he said, I'm not involved in the Taliban or Al-Qaeda.
00:44:37.000But I don't know if he's telling the complete truth, but I do... Well, look, Alex, I think the key phrase you used in quoting Ahmed Gul there about these corporations that are involved is, they have an incentive, he said.
00:44:55.000to expand the alleged threat, to create conditions in which their contracts will be extended, expanded, and inadequately supervised.
00:45:08.000And that, as I said, is by corporate law, as practiced in court, that's absolutely correct.
00:45:16.000That is the obligation of the corporate leadership is to do everything legally possible to enhance the profits to the shareholders.
00:45:26.000But the CIA isn't allowed without warrants on paper to spy on the American people.
00:45:32.000How do they then come out and admit that there's almost a million private contractors with the highest security clearance spying on the American people.
00:45:41.000I mean, Poindexter, six, seven years ago, got in trouble for Total Information Awareness Network, and then the Washington Post reported, well, they just made it private, so that's okay.
00:45:50.000I mean, to me, that makes it even more illegal.
00:45:53.000Yeah, well, I would say the question of legality, of course, will be handled in the courts, and one of the unfortunate, and I can tell you this from A lot of direct experience with this in cases.
00:46:09.000I used to put out a publication called Unclassified for some years.
00:46:13.000It ceased publication about eight or nine years ago now.
00:46:20.000But I had a section in there which I published every two months on shadow justice.
00:46:27.000Describing the way the United States courts at the local and especially at the federal level handled cases in which the government came forward and argued classified material, national security, and the general 99%, with the exception,
00:46:49.000by the way, of Judge Walsh, who handled by the way, of Judge Walsh, who handled the Iran-Contra cases, who was, in my view, one of the great heroes of the American legal system.
00:47:03.000But the point I'm going to make here is that when you're talking about the court, and is it illegal, is ninety percent of the cases the federal courts will wash their hands Of any case in which the government comes forward and says, national security, classified materials, and I've heard this phrase used over and over again.
00:47:25.000Well, as the judges, you know, we can't understand the intricacies of the intelligence system, which is like a great mosaic, you see, and if you only move one tile in it, you know, it could disrupt the whole thing.
00:48:04.000And I think one of the things that I have focused on over the years is this use of the term national security.
00:48:13.000Which has no real definition, and one of the, you know, marks that you can give, the plus mark you can give to Dwight Eisenhower, who of course warned about the military-industrial complex and leaving, but who's deliberately refused to use the term national security.
00:48:38.000And there is no legal definition for it, but it's been used to, you know, justify or at least rationalize a whole range of government activities over the years, which You know, I think you accurately described it as tyrannical, certainly unconstitutional.
00:48:56.000Well, David, we know why Eisenhower really got upset.
00:49:18.000Believe me, when you say that, the reaction of most people is to say, well, what kind of nutcases are those who can walk into the Oval Office and give that sort of advice to a President of the United States?
00:49:36.000That there must be something wrong with the system that allows these people to go around not wearing a straitjacket.
00:49:46.000You know, but there are these people, and part of it, of course, is the reaction.
00:49:52.000There's a famous instance early on in the history of the CIA when concern was being expressed about activities, about which going back to Iran was the great success in overthrowing the elected government of Iran back in the 1950s.
00:50:18.000You know, when Alan Dulles, head of the CIA, a very crafty guy, by the way, you know, proposed to the Senate that he would like to bring in groups of senators and explain to them exactly what this new CIA was doing, proposed to the Senate that he would like to bring in groups of senators and explain to them exactly what this new CIA was doing, the then-senior senator
00:50:45.000So there's also this implied consent where the government really does know what's going on.
00:50:50.000They just like to basically have that plausible deniability.
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00:54:29.000This has been going on for a very long time, and I call it the creation of a false crisis involving Iran and its nuclear
00:54:45.000To put it in the shortest way possible, Iran, which is an original signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty back in the 1970s under the Shah's government, of course, when the United States was very eager to assist Iran in developing a nuclear power industry,
00:55:12.000has been charged since the overthrow of the Shah and the establishment of the Islamic Republic with the intention to not simply to develop a nuclear power industry, but that there's a cover for its desire to produce nuclear weapons, which, of course, is prohibited by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
00:55:44.000Well, these accusations have been made for a very long time.
00:55:48.000The Iranians have insisted, as a matter of fact, they're chief spiritual leader.
00:55:53.000And I have my problems with the Sharia type who dominate a certain aspect of Iranian public life.
00:56:04.000They've emphasized even in that period that Islamic law prohibits the manufacture or use of these weapons of mass destruction, nuclear weapons and so forth.
00:56:17.000But in any case, it's been an article of faith, excuse the expression, coming both from certain elements in our foreign policy establishment, and especially from Israel.
00:56:34.000And its adherents and followers in the United States, I think we can use the AIPAC, the American-Israeli Political Action Committee, as the symbol of this, to insist that Iran is deliberately pursuing this creation of nuclear weapons, which represents an existential threat to Israel, particularly, and
00:57:03.000Subsequently, of course, to the United States and its interests in the Middle East.
00:57:10.000Now I should emphasize that the IAEA, the International Atomic Energy Agency, is charged under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty to Investigate and the nuclear programs of every country in the world consistently found that Iran was not engaged in or attending the production of nuclear weapons.
00:57:40.000Three years ago, there was a national intelligence estimate
00:57:46.000These are products produced by the National Intelligence Council, the grouping of all the United States intelligence agencies, which found that despite the uproar that Iran had ceased any nuclear weapons program back in 2003 and had not Reconstituted them.
00:58:13.000Now, I know a little bit about these types of programs.
00:58:16.000Brazil, even Sweden, Argentina, other countries have them.
00:58:21.000As a matter of fact, any country which has a significantly sized military has nuclear weapons programs in the sense that studies are done within their military.
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01:00:48.000And we're talking to a former senior CIA analyst who also worked at the National Intelligence Council, who found three years ago that Iran was a decade away from a nuke and that they'd suspended their program.
01:01:00.000And of course, that's what the council had said about Iraq's WMDs that had been suspended in the early 90s.
01:01:08.000But they just created a new office in the Pentagon to put out this info.
01:01:17.000This ominous war clouds gathering from your years of experience.
01:01:20.000It looks like they're trying to sell an attack on Iran now.
01:01:23.000And what would come of that if there is an attack?
01:01:26.000Well, if there were an attack, and of course, what kind of an attack?
01:01:35.000And I think what most people have in mind, reflecting the rhetoric coming out of Tel Aviv, is that this would be an Israeli aerial attack on Iraq's nuclear installations.
01:01:52.000And that the United States, that this could not happen without either an open or a tacit approval of the United States.
01:02:07.000uh... by the united states government because the aircraft would have to overfly areas controlled by the united states iraq for for example and uh... so uh... this has become a major issue as you point out uh... the well into one thing you can point out of course is that uh... as of yesterday the long-planned uh... uh... russian uh...
01:02:37.000Designed and assisted nuclear power plant at Bushehr in Iran was open because the Russians delivered to the plant the nuclear fuel to get it running.
01:02:54.000It has not yet been installed and that's what gets to this eight-day thing that's been raised.
01:03:00.000It will take approximately another week to get this All the fuel in there, and it's being argued by Bolton and others that the plant must be destroyed before the fuel is in there because if the fuel is there and then it is bombed, then you set up a Chernobyl-type situation with radioactive material spreading all over the whole Middle East, which is kind of suicidal for anybody that gets involved in this.
01:03:35.000And publicized very highly by this article by Jeffrey Goldberg, whom you rightly described as basically an Israeli asset, if you will, in the United States, in the Atlantic Monthly, which showed... it really is focused as much on our current United States government, the Barack Obama administration, that
01:04:05.000That the only way the United States can really prevent Israel from carrying out such an attack is by itself taking a more direct military, power military, economic role in forcing the Iranian government to abandon its current nuclear power program.
01:04:33.000So, uh, this, as I say, this all comes about, but I think from my perspective, uh, one of the main factors to consider here is that this, uh, elevating, and it's been high, pretty high profile for quite a while.
01:04:51.000I'll tell you what, let's, sorry to interrupt, let's hit that key point straight ahead with our final segment with our guest, the Dr. Paul Gregg Roberts, coming up.
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01:08:21.000And he's a famous, well-known whistleblower who exposed fake intelligence back in the 80s.
01:08:27.000And it's the same story, just on a bigger scale, if you look at even the hawks in government.
01:08:34.000They admit that an attack on Iran, and they published three years ago some of the attack plans, hundreds of sites, their navy, their power plants, their bridges, their infrastructure, being annihilated.
01:08:53.000Bush, Cy Hirsch, six years ago reported on this.
01:08:55.000Two years after that, four years ago, the White House put out a press release saying, yes, we're running four different Sectarian groups, three of them Al-Qaeda related, Wahhabis connected out of Saudi Arabia, inside Iran, sabotaging and staging terror attacks.
01:09:11.000It's like Bush two months ago came out and said, yeah, I ordered torture and I'd order it again, but he sent people to prison that followed his memos from John Yoo and from Alberto Gonzalez, the Attorney General.
01:09:25.000And now with Obama, It's continuing, and we left off with the former IDF prison guard, Jeffrey Goldberg, writing in the Atlantic that America, the United States, needs to attack Iran.
01:09:40.000And most analysts think it could trigger World War III, but regardless, it's going to double or triple oil prices, a global jihad, not fake terror, real attacks are going to begin.
01:09:50.000And I think, sir, that they want to invoke this clash of civilizations.
01:09:54.000They want to stir up Well, I would agree to your last point.
01:09:57.000nest in Central Asia into the Middle East and then into Eastern Europe and the United States.
01:10:02.000But, I mean, specifically, what do you think the grand design here is?
01:10:09.000What are the hawks at the Pentagon looking for?
01:10:11.000And do you believe they are moving towards a green light on an attack on Iran?
01:10:15.000Well, I would agree with your last point.
01:10:19.000They are moving toward it, you know, the likelihood of giving this green light is greater than it was, let's say, a year, year and a half ago, when especially the Israelis were in some sort of a panic trying to figure out what the when especially the Israelis were in some sort of a panic trying to figure out what the Obama administration's actual And they've been, I think they've been relieved.
01:10:46.000I think they have the very strong elements directly within the White House.
01:11:09.000He's right there as basically an Israeli representative in the White House, and he's very hawkish and so forth.
01:11:19.000Now, that said, I'd like to refer your listeners, our listeners at this point, to the comment which Martin Indyk, the former U.S.
01:11:36.000Ambassador to Israel and currently a Vice President of the Brookings Institution here in Washington, He commented on the Goldberg article and came up with the conclusion that the United States was more likely than Israel to bomb Iran.
01:11:56.000In other words, if in fact the United States determined that Israel would go ahead with this and that the United States would be put in a bad position, if you will, by moving effectively to prevent Uh, Israel from doing it, then the United States would be more likely to take the action to destroy the installation at Bushehr and, uh, show its determination.
01:12:23.000This would really be, uh, you know, Obama's, uh, complete transformation into the new Bush, uh, in there.
01:12:31.000And I, uh, I think there is, uh, that Indyk certainly knows the region.
01:12:38.000Uh, you know, makes makes a certain amount of sense in coming to this conclusion.
01:12:44.000The point I was going to make before we went to break last time, which makes this whole situation, uh, you know, less predictable and more chancy.
01:12:59.000This is happening in the middle of the run-up to the congressional elections this fall.
01:13:08.000And God knows the Republican Party will play the Israeli card on this one.
01:13:17.000There are many elements within the Democratic Party which will also play the Israeli card on this and arguably force Obama's hand, force a decision which says, oh God, for political purposes, if nothing else, we've got to take some dramatic action here in Well, that was my next point.
01:13:43.000We saw in the Financial Times of London two weeks ago, or now three weeks ago, former top Clinton advisor also advising Obama, Robert Shapiro saying, if we don't have an Oklahoma City or a new 9-11 or some big event to make Obama look strong, to make people rally around him, there's going to be a complete sweep of the democrats and so they understand that at least short term of the new war people will rally around
01:14:10.000uh... the leader you know at that sociological uh... primitive level and so uh...
01:14:16.000that that's why ray mcgovern and many others and i guess you're saying the same thing are saying that this is the prime zone of danger going into november yeah well i i told you know i i i feel very strongly about this and they use one of the words that uh... takes me up completely is this uh...
01:14:37.000concentration on the word leader I told this to the junior senator from the Commonwealth of Virginia, where I reside, during the elections when he, you know, I was talking to him at a local coffee shop and he said, well we've got to show, I'll show strong leadership on this.
01:14:56.000I said to him, Governor, I don't want you to show leadership, I want you to represent me.
01:15:47.000Yeah, and you know, this is a long-term trend.
01:15:51.000As you know, many comments are made on this all the time, especially, I guess I could classify you as a libertarian, and the constant comment, and something that has worried me for a long time, both as an academic and in government, is this constant expansion of executive
01:16:17.000Authority, particularly in the one area where the drafters of our Constitution were most concerned, which was going to war and the, you know, putting that power in the hands of the Congress and not of the executive.
01:16:37.000And, you know, as we saw in the aftermath of Vietnam, One of the great fold-ups of the Congress, as far as I'm concerned, was the War Powers Act of 1973, which effectively told the President of the United States, you can go to war anytime you want, just let us know every six months how it's going.
01:17:02.000And that does give you a Fuhrer-type precept.
01:17:06.000I mean, it's completely the opposite of what our Republic was founded on.
01:17:10.000Well, I think if one could say that, and whatever arguments one wishes to make about the need for strong leadership in the foreign policy area and so forth, is that when you see developing because of the belief in this,
01:17:31.000This hugely magnified national security establishment, the enormous financial costs that go with it, and when you realize that just two weeks ago, That the renewed funding for the war in Afghanistan was put through an additional $30 billion.
01:17:59.000And incidentally, if you go back to that House resolution on that, you'll find that the actual title of it is a law to extend certain funding for education and other domestic projects.
01:18:16.000That, to me, was the height of hypocrisy.
01:18:40.000I mean, how much danger are we in, though, for this military-industrial complex to stage events or to let people attack us, open the door as a pretext to expand?
01:18:50.000I think all your listeners need to do is go back to the long-since declassified information on Operation Northwoods, which was a program put forward and passed through the Joint Chiefs of Staff and put up to then-President Kennedy,
01:19:09.000calling for the staging of fake attacks on United States aircraft near Cuba calling for the staging of fake attacks on United States aircraft near Cuba and even accepting the, not just military aircraft,
01:19:23.000not just military aircraft, these are passenger aircraft, but even accepting the loss of American life as a justification for an open military attack on Cuba.
01:19:42.000These things have been thought of before, and they've been done before, and I think the purpose of people like yourself as journalists, as broadcast, is to continually...
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01:24:19.000We're getting into Operation Northwoods, and there's so many other instances of plans and actual events where government-staged terror attacks give all these private corporate interests.
01:24:51.000I mean, it's pretty clear for me, a student of history and just a layman, but you have a degree, a PhD in history.
01:24:58.000That going back to Julius Caesar, they used fake crises or hype crises as a pretext for control and they built this huge apparatus that rivals the NKVD and Soviet Russia and it's all aimed at the American people.
01:25:12.000Law enforcement sent me the Homeland Security reports.
01:25:15.000None of this has to do with turbaned men in caves.
01:25:18.000They're worried about landowners, gun owners, libertarians, conservatives, anti-war people.
01:25:23.000Your comments on the conversion of America to a police state, if you agree, and false flag terror, sir.
01:25:30.000Yeah, well look, there has been this enormous elaboration of You know, and again, the term security comes in there.
01:25:40.000There are security firms, etc., that make money off this.
01:25:47.000You know, among the more interesting phenomena, if you will, of recent years in this country has been the, if you talk about privatization, the military intelligence operation, but the privatization of the prison system.
01:26:03.000Which gives an immense incentive for the Correctional Corporation of America, the biggest firm, and others that are in there, you know, to push for legislation that keeps more people locked up and, you know, there's more money coming into their coffers.
01:26:23.000So, yes, this is a, if you will, police state magnification of powers of the so-called security element and the combination, of course, of local security into the national apparatus.
01:26:46.000Almost Northwood's related thing for you in terms of the way covert operations work in these circumstances.
01:26:55.000Years ago after the Castro revolution in Cuba, We arranged with the British Leyland Motor Company, which had big contracts with the new government in Cuba to replace the motor bus system in Cuban cities.
01:27:11.000The buses that were delivered to Cuba had been sabotaged to the point where they weren't functioning.
01:27:17.000And now we're getting quite credible reports out that the nuclear power equipment that Iran is buying from other countries has been, in many cases, effectively sabotaged before it ever reaches Iran.
01:27:35.000So these are the things that, in my experience over the years, which intelligence, quote-unquote "intelligent systems" tend to do.
01:27:47.000And I'll give you before we leave a quick definition of covert operations.
01:27:52.000It was first made official in the Defense Budget Act of 1993.
01:27:59.000Covert operations are those activities of a military, economic, or political nature carried out by the United States government to influence or control activities in other countries, which are done in such a manner that the participation which are done in such a manner that the participation of the United States is concealed or if revealed can, and here's the key phrase, plausibly be denied.
01:28:32.000Knowing about Northwoods and Ajax and the rest of it, do you question 9-11 ever?
01:28:40.000You know, as a, you know, a non-scientist, I back out on that one.
01:28:45.000But, you know, the arguments made about the grave difficulty of, you know, taking down buildings like that through the, you know, the burning of aviation fuel after a crash.
01:29:00.000Is, uh, you know, not too convincing to me, and I'll just close with telling you that back in 1945, when I was a 17-year-old kid working as a longshoreman on the New York waterfront, you know, on the Jersey side, I looked up one morning and saw this big hole in the Empire State Building.
01:29:20.000You'll remember that was a B-25, which went off course and flew right into the Empire State Building, knocked an immense hole in the building.
01:29:30.000But it certainly didn't set it on fire and melt it down.
01:29:33.000And we see how 9-11 was used to further destroy our freedoms.
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01:33:50.000The reason I got him on hurriedly, two weeks ago, Drugs Report linked to, and then it was carried in literally thousands of websites, his article about the collapse of the United States in 2017.
01:34:08.000And he's written a new one called The Ecstasy of Empire, where he talks about the fact that if there isn't a revolution in this country, we're history.
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01:37:59.000We go now to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, and Dr. Paul Craig Roberts was the head of policy, number two at the Treasury, the father of Reaganomics, Wall Street Journal editor, many-time best-selling author, syndicated columnist, and his latest book is How the Economy Was Lost, The War of the Worlds.
01:38:16.000In his editorial that we posted, we have a link at the bottom where you can go over and get the book at Amazon.com.
01:38:23.000But I'm very excited that Drudge would post an article critical of the neocons in Israel.
01:38:29.000This is a big deal, and Drudge reads all these before he posts them.
01:38:32.000We commend his courage, but, I mean, it's the hawks, it's the military-industrial complex, it's Israeli and others who want this, and Obama wants it for a political distraction, an attack on Iran, We just had a former high-level CIA analyst on earlier, breaking all of that down.
01:38:48.000But we go now to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts to talk about his story, the ecstasy of empire.
01:38:58.000i mean let's go over it as this is exciting to see you that that that i mean your articles what international attention uh... in the wall street journal uh...
01:39:07.000but but but now since you're just going with uh...
01:39:09.000you know the info or they're getting even more attention as things be the case Well, break it down, sir.
01:39:15.000I mean, this article is frightening in its reality and how you link to all the data to back up what you're saying.
01:39:23.000Encapsulate what your story covers and then let's expand where you leave off saying, if we don't have a revolution, we're history.
01:39:31.000Well Alex, what the article does is to sort of bring together many of the messages I've been making, partly over your show over the years, that the economy has been destroyed by the offshoring of the middle class jobs.
01:39:48.000And so this has produced, I think, since 2007, a loss of approximately 10 to 11 million jobs.
01:39:59.000Now those jobs simply aren't here, so their stimulus programs can't put people back to work in jobs that have been moved offshore.
01:40:07.000The reason the jobs are moved offshore is it increases the profits of the firms in the short run.
01:40:14.000It makes money for Wall Street, it makes money for shareholders, and the executives can pay themselves huge bonuses.
01:40:23.000So they've sold out the American economy, and of course their own workforces, their own communities, in order to enrich themselves.
01:40:32.000So here you see the small oligarchy fouling its own nest.
01:40:41.000Because the intermediate run consequence, beyond the short run, the consequence is to destroy the domestic consumer market and also destroy their own power base.
01:40:54.000So we have an economy that's deserted.
01:40:59.000by the elite in business and in the government.
01:41:03.000And, of course, as you well know, the so-called mainstream media is part of their control apparatus.
01:41:11.000So what I concluded is that unless there is a revolution and these very small private interests that control the country are destroyed, that America is destroyed because the basis for the country has been taken away from it.
01:41:37.000Now, I don't know what kind of revolution it would be.
01:41:40.000You know, sometimes revolutions are organized, but I think most often they just happen.
01:41:46.000You know, people get, it's like Gerald Slinty says, when people have nothing left to lose, they lose it.
01:41:55.000And so, oftentimes, revolutions just happen.
01:42:01.000And it's never clear who will take them over.
01:42:04.000We think of the Bolshevik Revolution, but actually the February Revolution, which displaced the Tsar, was not led by the Bolsheviks.
01:42:13.000Their revolution occurred several months later.
01:42:16.000They simply took advantage of the chaos to seize power.
01:42:54.000These types of policies themselves produce revolutions.
01:43:00.000And when you have a record number of people on food stamps, when you have predictions that the number is going to climb, and then Congress cuts it, that's like saying, oh, how can the government help to undermine itself and cause a revolution?
01:43:13.000Well, that's a let-them-eat-cake statement!
01:44:48.000Except Rome's decline took a century or two, and I think ours will be much more rapid.
01:44:56.000You know, rather than for me to try to speculate, let me just point out How the economic information that's released, for example, the information released today, how it deceives us.
01:45:11.000For example, Alex, they reported that we've had an increase in housing starts in July.
01:45:23.000Well, the way they got this increase in housing starts in July is that there was a massive downward revision of the housing starts that they proclaimed in June.
01:45:39.000So they said more housing starts that occurred in June than did.
01:45:43.000So this month, the revision in the June number downward then produces an increase in the July number.
01:46:03.000They give you good news and then the next month they secretly take it away, they downward revise it, and that then produces another month.
01:46:11.000But what's happening now is, and I want you to speak to this, please, sir, is reality is colliding with their Alice in Wonderland false reality.
01:46:21.000And so the system is losing all credibility.
01:46:25.000And I do see forms of peaceful revolution taking place.
01:46:30.000Without any concerted organized effort in the last two years, CNET News, the Arizona Republic and others report that over 96 percent of people refused to pay them or even show up.
01:46:43.000And the system tried to threaten them and make examples, but finally gave in and pulled all the cameras out.
01:46:50.000So I mean that right there is an example of just non-compliance.
01:46:54.000Yes, I suspect that non-compliance will rise.
01:46:59.000As people lose resources, they lose the ability to comply, and they also lose their confidence in the government.
01:47:08.000And therefore they lose their willingness to comply.
01:47:13.000So when you don't have the ability or the willingness, then compliance has to fall.
01:47:18.000Let me give you another example of of the way economic statistics mislead.
01:47:26.000Also today, they announced that industrial production was up 1%.
01:47:31.000And this led to a rise in the stock market.
01:47:35.000But if you look at why is industrial production up 1%, it's largely due, I believe, to the fact that all the disruptions in automobile production over the last year or two about GM's bankruptcy, about the insolvency, to the fact that all the disruptions in automobile production over the last You know, everything was disrupted to the extent that just getting back to stability
01:48:03.000Produces statistically a rise in industrial production.
01:48:08.000Another way they get rises in industrial production is they use as a as a way of measuring it power usage.
01:48:18.000So if power usage is high, they assume industrial output is rising.
01:48:23.000But of course, what when you have these massive heat waves?
01:48:36.000It's the monthly, that's right, it's the monthly report that they put out.
01:48:40.000Well, I mean, you know how they manipulate, you know, the cost-earnings ratio.
01:48:45.000You know a lot more than I do as an economist how all this works.
01:48:48.000But, I mean, just to simply look at it, Dr. Roberts, what was it, 15 years ago they changed the rules where a hamburger place gets a manufacturing credit for putting cheese on a uh you know a piece of meat and and and putting bread on it and so here at my office uh simply making films and packaging them and shipping them i get the manufacturing credit
01:49:13.000i mean i take that credit but i'm not really manufacturing under the classical sense so they're changing definitions that's right that's exactly right alex There's probably many more of these things than you or I are aware of.
01:49:28.000But I just wanted to give you and your listeners two examples from today's economic reports to show how misleading they can be.
01:49:40.000And so I think it's going to be a little bit longer, I can't say how much longer, before people or very many people catch on.
01:49:50.000Of course, some people know already and have known for some time.
01:49:54.000But even if, you know, you suggested that perhaps the elite themselves realize that it's all the wealth, but I'm not so sure because today's stock market rose substantially.
01:50:08.000On the basis of good news, which consists of statistical artifacts that aren't real.
01:50:16.000So I'm not sure that people have caught on or that the elite have caught on.
01:50:23.000Generally, the elite are so full of hubris and self-confidence and arrogance.
01:50:44.000I want to come back and go more into your excellent piece, The Ecstasy of Empire, and that hubris you're talking about, and how you talk about we're almost past the point of no return.
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01:54:04.000Dr. Roberts will be with us 15 minutes to the next hour.
01:54:06.000Then I'm going to cover a bunch of news and take your phone calls.
01:54:11.000But the mere fact that so many radio stations are now turning this show on, instead of getting one or two new affiliates a month over the years and then stations are bought and sold and you lose some, we're now getting two, three, four a week and these are big stations in the biggest cities.
01:54:28.000The fact that the Drudge Report would pick up your story from Infowars.com The fact that a lot of people I talk to that are middle class, nouveau riche, working class, they are getting it.
01:54:40.000Now I agree with you, the hubris-filled super elites, the ruling class, a lot of them are very delusional.
01:54:47.000But you spoke about the revolution in 1917, 1918, and of course you're right.
01:54:52.000You know, as a researcher, that the people rebelled, then the communists came in from Germany, England, and New York and took it over.
01:55:02.000Ron Paul has said that, that during this crisis we've got to be more active than ever so that people with horrible ideas don't use the crisis to get more control.
01:55:38.000On the other hand, the people may provide the kind of leadership at the time that's needed.
01:55:43.000But Alex, let's, rather than speculate on these things, let's, let's talk about, cause you wanted to know, you wanted to know, At what point do we hit the point of no return and can't get out of the crisis?
01:55:59.000And as I've emphasized many times with you on your show, the big crisis is when do we lose the dollar as reserve currency and when can the federal government no longer finance its huge budget deficit except by printing money?
01:56:16.000Now, so, and I've made the point over and over, you can finance a $400 or $500 billion deficit, but you can't finance one that's $1 trillion for $500 billion.
01:56:31.000And we've now into the second year of $1.5 trillion deficits.
01:57:08.000The other way the budget deficit is being financed is through the Federal Reserve's purchase of all of the bad paper, the subprime derivatives, and so forth, that the banks got themselves stuck with.
01:57:25.000The Fed simply bought that from them, gave them bank reserves, and the banks used those bank reserves to buy the government's bonds.
02:00:26.000He, of course, is the author of the latest story, the Drudge Report, picked up from InfoWars.com, The Ecstasy of Empire.
02:00:34.000And at the end of the article, you can link through at Amazon.com and get the powerful book, How the Economy Was Lost, The War of the Worlds.
02:00:41.000It tells how this country is, why this country is disintegrating.
02:00:46.000Okay, Dr. Roberts, you were getting into the third way they plan to finance all of this to the point of no return.
02:00:55.000The Greeks got heavily in debt and so the New York investment banks and the hedge funds made a run on them, caused the Greek crisis, and then the New York investment banks and hedge funds multiplied the Greek crisis into the Euro crisis.
02:01:16.000And the financial press, of course, became an adjunct to the Treasury's financing needs, and they spread all over that, oh, the euro is going, the euro won't last.
02:01:29.000And the euro collapsed dramatically against the dollar.
02:01:34.000Well, this caused all kinds of individuals and foreign central banks who had been holding euros as reserves as an alternative to the dollar to flee the euro and flee into the dollar.
02:02:16.000So they can keep it going as long as they have some country in the EU that's sufficiently indebted that the financial press can create the image of a disaster and that the hedge funds and the investment banks can make money by shorting or driving down.
02:02:37.000So as long as they can produce these flights of fear From other countries holdings and from other currencies into the dollar.
02:02:49.000They can keep this going, but of course it is limited.
02:02:54.000And so what I think is the way they're playing this game.
02:02:58.000Is that the decline of the United States will be sudden because the minute there's no longer any way to finance the deficit, it means they have to print the money.
02:03:11.000The minute they do that, the dollar is no longer the reserve currency.
02:03:16.000I see them hyping that China is going to have a depression, and I see them talking about trying to manipulate China, but China's our biggest holder, and I've seen China getting angry devaluing U.S.
02:03:28.000Treasuries and EU Treasuries in the last month.
02:03:32.000Well, that's correct, and today there's an article on Global Research about we keep trying to provoke them militarily, and we're making them very angry.
02:04:04.000Nevertheless, when they no longer can produce a flow into dollars or into U.S. trade, Treasury bonds out of some fear or some hyped crisis, that's when the financing problem hits and that's when the dollar ceases to be the reserve currency.
02:04:23.000And the minute that happens, we can't pay our import bill.
02:04:28.000And so the supply of goods and services in the United States from abroad are greatly curtailed.
02:04:36.000And this, of course, includes petroleum.
02:04:39.000Dr. Roberts, we've got one more segment with you.
02:04:41.000You've been very gracious to give us your expertise and, of course, your great articles that we're posting at InfoWars.com.
02:04:46.000We're going to come back and talk about this desperate game they're playing.
02:04:51.000And they are trying to start a war with China.
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02:08:54.000It's in the Associated Press today that the Pentagon says China may launch an attack Now they're Al Qaeda, after these very same corporate globalists had tax incentives and everything they could to move everything offshore, not for free trade, but to cannibalize our economy.
02:09:12.000Now, more and more, we've got to go into Pakistan.
02:09:25.000The media says Al Qaeda is about to hit and Obama's gonna have to take your rights.
02:09:30.000We can really see them playing the false flag card.
02:09:34.000I had former top-level CIA analyst David McMichael on earlier and he agreed.
02:09:39.000He said we're in the prime danger of the government staging a terror attack.
02:09:44.000So Dr. Roberts speaking about Iran, China, all of this, and the method to their madness, but they're now trying to pick fights with people that have hundreds, if not thousands, of nuclear weapons.
02:09:56.000Pakistan's got more than 20, with medium-range delivery systems.
02:11:05.000Also, they could require the pension fund managers to use our pensions to purchase Treasury bonds.
02:11:14.000So that's another financing means they have that I suspect they will resort to as they get more desperate.
02:11:22.000Well, to interrupt, you said that here on this show three years ago.
02:11:25.000It's now, Bloomberg admits three months ago that the feds are ordering private pension funds to quote, invest in failed banks.
02:11:32.000The Chicago Tribune said, oh, the state has changed the law, and they gave the subsection, I read it on air yesterday, where the state doesn't have to give state workers their pension.
02:11:41.000I mean, if they try that, you talk about a recipe for revolution.
02:11:46.000yes it's it's more than let the me kate uh...
02:11:53.000pensions were hurt by the dot com bubble by the real estate bubble body subprime derivative bubble they haven't got that much left so if they come in and when levy uh...
02:12:05.000attacks on the pensions on the grounds that they haven't been taxed or they require the pension fund managers to use the pensions to buy worthless government paper That's more provocation and more reason that I think Salenti's point that when people have nothing left to lose, they lose it.
02:12:25.000And that's generally when you get a revolution.
02:12:28.000Now to get back to your point, I really don't think the United States military wants to have a war with Iran.
02:12:37.000They certainly don't want to have one with China.
02:12:40.000The people pushing this are the neoconservatives who have this sort of empire ideology.
02:12:54.000They push it because of the profits on munitions and the warplanes and everything else.
02:13:01.000And of course they're related to the Pentagon, but the generals themselves, or at least most of them, have, I think, too much sense.
02:13:08.000And they've not been very supportive of the notion of attacking Iran.
02:13:14.000If you notice carefully statements of the top generals, you don't find a whole lot of support.
02:13:19.000Yeah, Mullen has even told the Israelis it's nuts.
02:13:23.000Fox Fallon refused and resigned three years ago, or two years ago, so it's incredible.
02:13:30.000So they certainly won't want to start anything with China.
02:13:37.000It's not clear to me that China would even have to fight.
02:13:41.000They could probably defeat us just by dumping their $2 trillion worth of U.S.
02:13:47.000assets, because that would be the end of the dollar.
02:13:49.000So what do you see in closing as the final bubble to pop?
02:13:53.000I mean, are you saying it's going to be the Treasury note bubble?
02:13:57.000The final bubble to pop is when they cannot finance the government deficit except by printing money.
02:14:04.000When the Federal Reserve directly buys the new government bonds, It pays for them by creating checking accounts for the Treasury, which the Treasury immediately spends.
02:14:17.000So that money goes directly into circulation.
02:14:20.000It's different from when the Federal Reserve buys bonds from the banks, relying on the banks to use the reserves to make loans and to create money that way.
02:14:30.000But when the banks don't have any credit-worthy customers to lend to, they just sit on the reserves.
02:14:36.000But if they buy the new bonds directly from the Treasury, The money directly goes into circulation and starts driving up prices.
02:14:45.000And I think the deficit is going to be much bigger next year because the economy is not recovering.
02:14:50.000It's going to, in my opinion, the opinion of Gerald Cilenti and the opinion of John Williams, who's probably the best statistician on this, we're about to move down substantially further.
02:15:03.000So the budget deficit that has to be financed will be bigger than one and a half trillion.
02:15:08.000And a war, a war would be politically expedient for the election, but not good for the deficit, correct?
02:15:17.000They can't finance the current deficit.
02:15:20.000Except by the way, the means that I gave you, and they're all short term, and some of them, such as confiscating people's pensions, will produce more revolution, more tendency toward non-compliance.
02:15:33.000So I think that they're out far on a limb, and they were led out there by the arrogance of the neoconservatives, by the complicity of the mainstream media, by the utter stupidity of the Congress.
02:15:47.000And by the greed of the military security complex in Wall Street.
02:16:03.000We saw that the Harvard endowment dumped all of their Israeli stock holdings, and then some Muslim groups came out and said, oh, that's because the Israeli boycott that's picking up steam worldwide.
02:16:16.000But Harvard just said, no, we don't see this as good investments.
02:16:19.000But that can't be a good omen to not just see Harvard, but other big institutions racing away from Israel.
02:17:01.000There goes Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, linked in his story, The Ecstasy of Empire, up on InfoWars.com, How the Economy Was Lost, The War of the Worlds, details why America is disintegrating.
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02:18:01.000Yeah, I'm right here with the Alex, and I'm just watching the market rise as we speak.
02:18:05.000We've seen $1,228 already today, and the economic crisis is just mounting that federal debt and risk of financial crisis document that we have.
02:18:19.000You know, the Congressional Budget Office, it's just terrifying.
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02:25:34.000You know, Alex, I've got to say that it is, and you're exactly right.
02:25:37.000I just don't know of any other solution to hedging your bet and ensuring your future financially.
02:25:46.000I mean, the United States dollar is going to be doomed, like Paul Craig Roberts said, when the federal government turns to the Federal Reserve System to finance its expenditures, they spend that money into the economy.
02:26:40.000List the coins that are massively discounted that you've got available so folks, when they call for the special, know what they're coming for.
02:27:05.000I mean, we just came out of the summer, and you know what?
02:27:08.000I don't know, Alex, if we'll get the opportunity to buy gold again at that $1,180 an ounce, and that silver down there at that $15.50, $16 an ounce.
02:27:17.000And then pass those savings on, $800, $686, $2237.
02:27:21.000Out of all the deals I've seen, is the frank still the best, or is it the sovereign?
02:27:27.000Well, the franc with the full year subscription to the International Forecaster is going to be dollar for dollar the best value.
02:27:33.000If you're just buying them straight up, maybe the sovereign might be just pennies less than the franc.
02:27:38.000But still, I mean, if you're getting a full year subscription to that newsletter, I don't know how you can beat that.
02:27:44.000But the sovereigns and the francs are both a good buy.
02:27:47.000You know, the buffaloes, the eagles, I mean, you name it.
02:27:49.000I mean, everything is at a bargain right now because we just came out of the summer.
02:27:58.000Now we have September, October, November.
02:28:00.000Let's remember that a month and a half ago, the private central banks, the IMF particularly, Sold into the market as much gold is produced and mined in a year, admittedly trying to drive down the price because gold competes with their fiat paper, and it didn't even knock a dent in it.
02:28:36.000We've also got some great deals at MidasResources.com.
02:28:42.000Big links up at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
02:28:45.000To those special pages, those radio special pages, if you want the best deal, or tell them Alex and Ted sent you.
02:28:52.000It's a radio special and that you want those super deals.
02:28:55.000The regular prices are still great, but these radio deals that Ted does, what, you know, every few weeks, It's been about a month since he's been on with us and done a special like this.
02:29:59.000Listen up friends, this is Alex Jones with key information.
02:30:03.000The mainstream media is now admitting that we're going into a depression.
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02:36:08.000You don't, you've got to be dependent on, you don't collect rainwater, they're passing laws everywhere to do that.
02:36:13.000You are going to be bankrupt and worship the government.
02:36:18.00090% of people were self-sufficient in the Great Depression, 7 million starved to death according to university studies.
02:36:23.000Now 90 plus percent are urban or aren't self-sufficient and the government's doing everything it can to make sure you can't be self-sufficient.
02:36:31.000But how can they pass that without the people approval?
02:36:37.000Well, now they're going to try to implement it.
02:36:38.000It's kind of like campaign finance reform said talk show host six weeks before an election couldn't talk about policies.
02:38:14.000What's happened to all this gold and the history of all the, you know, robberies of gold and all these pours of gold from these different places?
02:38:31.000And they'll also do sales of the gold to each other, but won't really sell it.
02:38:35.000It's a paper sale, then they'll switch it back later.
02:38:38.000They'll sell it for reduced price, you know, massive tonnage, and then a month later to drive gold down, they'll sell it back at reduced price, and then that's seen as the market as that it's devalued, but it's all smoke and mirrors.
02:38:53.000Why should the American people obey the laws of a joke government where Their priority is on government dependency instead of self-dependency for the individual.
02:39:07.000Well, I mean, the system wants us to be dependent, but what's your question?
02:39:11.000Why should the people obey these laws when the government, like in those twelve states where you can't, you know, photograph police officers, but they hold you accountable for everything.
02:39:24.000Yeah, they're going to videotape you and they're going to surveil you without warrants, but if you film your own house and they come, they then arrest you.
02:39:32.000And there's not even a law in those twelve states.
02:39:34.000They're misappropriating, they're misapplying a wiretapping law and they know it.
02:39:40.000No, I mean, the government is rogue, it's criminal, and the police are just where the rubber meets the road.
02:40:31.000About half the population in the major cities are locked up at night, and they live in tiny cubicles and work on average 15 hours a day, and they have to put nets all around the factories because in some weeks hundreds commit suicide.
02:40:45.000And now they're talking about drugging them or giving them vaccines that will turn them into biological androids.
02:40:52.000And the media is like, don't worry, we're going to give the Chinese workers shots where viruses help their brain, it actually attacks it, and it's just, oh, we'll give you an injection, no more pain.
02:41:05.000Yuppies can't wait to march their 10-year-old in who's upset about life and inject them with a brain-damaging chemical.
02:41:11.000They love it I mean, they just love death or begging for mass death.
02:41:14.000And so they're gonna get total enslavement like the Chinese slaves They want it.
02:41:19.000They need it and they're going to get it.
02:41:22.000They need it and they want it and they're going to get it I'm sorry American labor should not have to compete against slave labor or near-slave labor.
02:41:34.000I think that is the one issue, this China deal.
02:41:36.000You've spoken to it, written about it.
02:41:39.000It's the one issue that, frankly, a lot of Americans can relate to because we've been offshoring jobs, just like your guest has been talking about for a long time now.
02:41:50.000Jobs that would have been created in America are being created in China.
02:41:55.000China is systematically creating a pedigree trade... Jim, if they're coming out with shots that'll make you be happy and not be upset, please don't be with Al-Qaeda, John.
02:42:07.000Please lobby the FDA to legalize these injections.
02:42:51.000No, free men that resist slavery talk.
02:42:54.000No, it's totally normal to have the government media promoting injections that'll make you never get upset again with viruses that attack your brain.
02:44:36.000Well, my issue is Mexico is a failed state and I want them to have a free society and not use the United States as a steam valve.
02:44:43.000And then the big foundations, Bill and Melinda Gates on record, Ford Foundation, billions of dollars in bringing in a foreign group and not inducting them into freedom, but inducting them into globalism.
02:45:07.000They're taught that it's part of a la reconquista.
02:45:09.000We don't have these issues with other Latin American immigrants, though the foundations are trying to hype them up against the United States.
02:45:15.000When you go to these rallies with illegal aliens waving the Mexican flags and chanting, you know, we're taking over, it's the Mexicans.
02:45:21.000The problem is there's, from my study, no more patriotic, hardworking, intelligent group than Mexicans who will tell you, I'm an American.
02:45:59.000I must be a pretty big Al-Qaeda operative because I'm the editor who put together the Resist DC video for Matt Shea that you were so kind to put up on your site with his article.
02:46:10.000I just wanted to say thank you very much.
02:46:12.000Well you knew how to dial a telephone.
02:46:32.000Well, anyways, I just want to tell you that, you know, we really appreciate the help.
02:46:37.000This is the kind of thing that everybody needs to get out and do to go and help the local politician that's constitutional and will fight for the Constitution and everybody's rights.
02:46:46.000I just want to relay a little quick story about Matt.
02:46:49.000I was emailing him because our local propaganda machine Just informed us that the local Spokane International Airport was going to have the naked body scanners in them.
02:47:06.000And so I relayed that story to Matt and he said, yeah, I just got shaken down by TSA myself.
02:47:11.000I had to go get patted down because I refused to go through and as soon as I was done, I placed a call to go get a piece of legislation in to ban those scanners in Washington State.
02:47:21.000Well, good job, because they lied, they admittedly know it's bathing in radiation, and they lied.
02:48:23.000Anyway, like I was saying, you know... George Washington said, the Declaration of Independence says, naked body scanners, and licking government boots, and having the government take your children without due process, and having poison put in the water to give us brain cancer, and to be sterilized as freedom.
02:48:38.000And if you're against that, and your child dying of cancer, you are against George Washington.
02:48:43.000And then I've gotten some people to woke up, I got my mother finally to woke up, I got my friends telling their parents, And they're going on websites, and they're... Oh, evil.
02:48:52.000And they're like, well, what are we gonna do?
02:48:58.000These presidents, I mean, they're all... Get in the government's face, put up flyers, say no, let the other sheep know, shake them out of their deep sleep.
02:50:18.000I mean, she was a writer for a major publication in medical news and exposed it, and it was admitted, and I've seen it in the news that they're talking about arresting her.
02:50:26.000I mean, that's what I'm talking about.
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02:55:10.000The Ohio Department of Health school-based fluoride mouth rinse program will reinstate for the upcoming school year.
02:55:15.000So they're going to cut food stamps, but they got money for that fluoride because they care, folks.
02:55:20.000The Health Department suspended the program last year after state representatives passed a bill that required any prescription medications given to students in school to be administered by health professionals.
02:55:28.000Governor Ted Strickland signed legislation in May that made the exemption for fluoride mouth rinse.
02:55:40.000The majority, some numbers are above 90% of fluoride coming into the U.S., are from China with other poisons added.
02:55:47.000And there's been newscasts covering this, but that's like saying, you know, the bullets we're shooting you in the head with are coming from China, not from America.
02:55:56.000There's other poisons in there, not just the regular poison.
02:56:00.000I'm almost out of time, but let's go to Aaron in Oklahoma.
02:56:09.000Yeah, I don't have anything to talk about with the bees or anything, but I wanted to talk to you about specifically HJR 192 and discharging debt.
02:56:19.000I made the mistake of going to school at ITT Tech, of all places, and I have student loans I owe to Sally May, and I'm wondering if you know, if you've heard of anyone actually been able to get away with discharging this debt using the uniform commercial code, specifically HJR 192.
02:56:36.000You know, that's a very complex issue, and I'm not going to give financial advice on it.
02:56:41.000There's some reality to all that, but mainly it's patriot mythology and stuff that people make up.
02:56:47.000Now, there's a lot of contract fraud in mortgages and things that companies do that's unlawful, and so there is some success fighting it there.
02:56:55.000But as for magically just doing something and it all goes away, That's a good way to get in deep trouble.
02:57:22.000If you had a, uh, father son ticket, Ron Paul, president, Rand Paul, vice president.
02:57:27.000Uh, but Ron Paul's going to run unless he has health problems and he's in pretty good shape.
02:57:31.000I mean, I mean, he hadn't told me that, but he's, you know, he's going to run just watch.
02:57:37.000Uh, and, uh, and I'll, I'll support that because bottom line, he'll be able to educate tens of millions from those debates and that bully pulpit he's going to have.
02:57:46.000Uh, But at the same time, I'd like to focus on the states and counties and cities where we can really take things back under the 9th and 10th Amendment.
02:57:54.000That's the main remedy for peaceful resistance to an out of control Federal government and so that's where people need to have their focus.
02:58:00.000Not have 60% turnouts for federal elections and then 8% national average for local.
02:58:06.000How about 60% local and 60% or even higher national?