Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups. You want answers? Well, so does Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network. Today's guest is Joel Skousen, host of the World Affairs Brief, who joins Alex to discuss the latest in the war in Afghanistan, the CIA spying on American citizens, and more.
00:01:57.000They have been caught funding the white supremacist.
00:02:01.000They've been caught funding every sectarian group pushing division.
00:02:06.000and war and conflict, so then the government and the media can play the part of the arbiter, the referee, the good guy.
00:02:15.000Oh, look at all the violence, look at all the sectarian violence, look at the radical Muslims, look at the La Reconquista, look at all the border problems.
00:02:24.000We've got to come in with the North American Union to fix all of these problems.
00:02:32.000Also, I wondered this morning While I woke up, got on the computer at about 7 a.m.
00:02:41.000and saw that the Drudge Report had linked to just a YouTube video that we'd posted, that we'd linked to, with this headline, Spy Satellite Used on American Citizens, All Americans Should Have Great Pride.
00:02:56.000And of course we love the Drudge Report.
00:02:57.000I loved the Drudge Report many years ago before they started linking to us every week.
00:03:01.000Because I noticed that he was breaking the mold in what you could call crossover alternative mainstream media.
00:03:11.000Probably the preeminent news site, period, in the world.
00:03:13.000If you had to pick one, it's Drudge Report.
00:03:16.000And he would link to BBC and foreign publications admitting world government.
00:03:24.000And so that threw Limbaugh and Beck and Hannity for a loop to where they've had to come out and admit, okay, there is a world government, but you're still a kook if you criticize it.
00:03:35.000You know, it's a commie New World Order.
00:03:37.000It's not run by the big banks that own the Republicans and the Democrats.
00:03:40.000So I was pleased to see that new link today, and I wondered why he pulled it down, and I found out why.
00:03:46.000The video was about three and a half years old.
00:03:49.000And again, a listener just sent it to us.
00:03:50.000It's been freshly posted up on YouTube.
00:03:55.000But that spurred me to think about something even more important.
00:04:02.000We see this three-and-a-half-year-old clip from Homeland Security back in 2007 when they were announcing, oh, we're going to watch you with spy satellites to stop al-Qaeda.
00:04:12.000And then now, the reason this is back in the news, and Steve Watson, Kurt Nemo, and Paul Watson have written about it in the last few weeks, is they're saying, oh, we're using the spy satellites, and we're going to use it to watch your farms, your ranches, we're going to use it to make sure you don't build a...
00:04:29.000shed or work shed or barn on your property under zoning they're getting rid of all the pretense that it's for shadowy Neanderthals in caves that want to drink our blood and so I'm glad we posted this but we're writing a new article to explain here they are three years ago saying it's for terrorism and then three and a half years later they're saying oh no it's for you the American Feast for the Parasites.
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00:08:49.000Okay, first thing I want to do is play this clip from three and a half years ago because I saw this when I was surfing around the web last week that had been reposted and I meant to get to it.
00:09:04.000But I want to cover this issue now before I get into...
00:09:12.000Before I get into the latest economic information, Bloomberg has the headline, Gold Rallying to 1,500 as Soros Bubble Inflates.
00:09:23.000That is all coming up in this hour and your phone calls.
00:09:26.000But I wanted to play this clip with one of the Deputy Directors of Homeland Security three and a half years ago, saying Americans should be proud of the fact that NSA and Pentagon satellites are being used to surveil the American people.
00:09:45.000Now, when they announced this back in 2007, there was a big uproar.
00:09:51.000And a lot of federal judges said that's completely illegal.
00:09:54.000That was the same time that the warrantless wiretapping was coming out that was illegal.
00:09:59.000And the torture was coming out that was illegal.
00:10:01.000And so they backed off and said, okay, we're not going to have local police basically federalized in the fusion centers, surveilling everyone.
00:10:10.000But they went ahead with the training and did it.
00:10:12.000This is in Greece, Australia, the UK, Canada, the US.
00:10:18.000So the issue here is, here they are three years ago, three and a half years ago, saying this is for terrorists, and then now we learn today, and it's all over the news in the last few weeks, that oh, you didn't pay the city fee to have a swimming pool.
00:10:36.000You didn't get environmental Approval or zoning approval to build that shed on your farm, or to re-roof that house.
00:10:46.000So they're using it, and of course you've seen the famous Pennsylvania ad that came out this year, where it shows them surveilling somebody with a satellite named Tom, saying we know where you live Tom, you owe us $4,000 Tom, we're coming to get you Tom.
00:11:03.000So they go from trying to unveil this in the name of fighting Al-Qaeda to now admitting it's for we, the people.
00:11:20.000The Director of National Intelligence has given the go-ahead for the nation's spy satellites to be used regularly by U.S.
00:11:27.000civilian agencies and law enforcement.
00:11:29.000This is a development all Americans should have great pride in because it expands and uses national technical systems which we've built for tens of billions of dollars over many decades.
00:11:40.000Spy satellites have primarily been used overseas to monitor things like war zones and terror training camps.
00:11:46.000They've also been used domestically, but sparingly, during events including Super Bowl games, presidential inaugurals, and hurricanes.
00:11:53.000Homeland Security officials say the satellites will now be used to protect borders and critical infrastructure.
00:11:59.000Which includes sports, and looking at potential vulnerabilities and threats, as well as consequences of attacks.
00:12:07.000Next in line, law enforcement agencies, which are expected to start using them next year.
00:12:12.000While they can provide crucial high-resolution images, there are limits to what these satellites can do.
00:12:17.000They can't see faces, and they can't listen.
00:12:21.000At least, that's what the government claims.
00:12:23.000But privacy groups worry that because there's so much we don't know about their capabilities, they could be misused.
00:12:31.000The question always comes down to what are the standards, are there checks and balances, and is this a power that we would trust the executive branch to use without any outside scrutiny or oversight or control.
00:12:46.000Homeland Security officials insist that they are subject to a great amount of oversight and review, but in many ways this is just one more case of the government figuring it out as it goes in the war on terror.
00:13:00.000They're not figuring anything out as they go.
00:13:04.000They premeditatedly lied to you about taking your baby's blood at birth.
00:13:08.000If you're 38 years old or younger, you had your blood secretly taken.
00:13:12.000Whether you live in England, the United States, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, it's a global program.
00:13:17.000Most European nations, Western European nations.
00:13:20.000They lied to you and said they weren't saving your naked body scan images.
00:13:24.000We could read the Homeland Security purchase orders and it's stated they're designed to save all your images and attach it to your name and social security number and driver's license and passport.
00:13:37.000They're databasing your biometric body scan and training you to accept this form of tyranny.
00:13:44.000The government isn't figuring this out as they go.
00:13:48.000Remember Bush getting up four years ago and saying, we do not spy on Americans without warrants.
00:14:31.000No one's allowed to inspect it, no one's allowed to look at it, because under the Federal Reserve Act, it's under the private bank's control.
00:14:37.000Now Ron Paul is no doubt risking his life, saying he wants an audit of Fort Knox and other gold deposits.
00:15:02.000And I'm not here trying to attack Glenn Beck.
00:15:05.000I'm just pointing out that he doesn't go one-tenth as far as he should with the amazing power That he has.
00:15:16.000Because they know that the American people have awakened.
00:15:19.000They know that Ron Paul and many others had become focal points for a huge movement to seriously challenge the left-right paradigm and the Republican and Democratic parties.
00:15:32.000The system brought in Glenn Beck and others to co-op that at that key moment.
00:15:39.000By the way, the reason I raise that, it's in my stack.
00:15:42.000I'm going to cover it after the bottom of the hour break.
00:15:45.000Ron Paul has put out an editorial that was published in major newspapers across the country, including the New York Times of all places.
00:15:54.000They went with it because they think it'll drive a wedge between Republicans and Democrats.
00:16:00.000And further the left-right paradigm, it'll actually do the opposite.
00:16:04.000And they're scared of Glenn Beck right now bringing the Republicans into the power structure.
00:16:09.000They're back into control of the power structure.
00:16:13.000But the point is, you read Ron Paul's editorial.
00:16:16.000He explains that he's against Obama and he's against the Republican leadership.
00:16:22.000Because if you look at their voting records, not their rhetoric, look at what they do, not what they say.
00:16:28.000Government grows when Republicans are in almost as fast as it does when Obama's gotten into office.
00:16:35.000In fact, previously, government would grow even faster under Republicans than it would under Democrats, if you look at the statistics.
00:16:46.000Now under Obama, all those rules have been broken.
00:16:49.000I mean, you would imagine that it would be Democrats with their tax and spend system that would actually create the biggest deficits and things.
00:16:57.000But if you look at the averages, normally Republicans tend to get even more big government through because conservatives go to sleep.
00:17:04.000But now under Obama, with the government takeover of health care, with expanding these wars, expanding the size of the federal government, He has tripled the size of government in only a year and a half in office when George W. Bush only doubled it.
00:17:24.000You can go pull up the statistics on that.
00:17:26.000But Obama has spent more money than all presidents before him combined.
00:17:31.000That's George W. Bush back to George Washington.
00:17:35.000It's really such big numbers it's hard to even get your mind around this.
00:17:44.000Going back to the satellite issue, spy satellites used to control American citizens.
00:17:51.000Kurt Nemo did a boil-down story on this today, showing how all these mainstream publications are promoting how great it is that the environmental agencies and law enforcement agencies are now basically
00:18:13.000You know, skipping all of the mid moves and going right to the end game, where they're just coming right out and saying, we're going to use this for everything.
00:18:23.000We're going to use this and we're going to issue pupils, government jerseys they've got to wear, basically prisoner shirts that have RFID tracking them in real time.
00:18:33.000And yes, we're putting up microphones to track you on the street corners.
00:18:36.000And yes, we've got mobile x-ray vans that drive around x-raying your house from a distance.
00:18:43.000I mean, I knew 14 years ago, I'd seen Pentagon purchase orders for domestic helicopters with x-ray, high-powered x-ray systems mounted to them.
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00:24:18.000Here's a Bloomberg headline out this morning.
00:24:21.000Gold rallying to 1,500 as Soros' bubble inflates.
00:24:28.000And every time I've seen Bloomberg make a prediction like this, it's come true.
00:24:34.000And it isn't that gold is really going up.
00:24:37.000It's that paper currencies worldwide are being devalued basically in concert.
00:24:45.000Investors are accumulating enough bullion to fill Switzerland's vaults twice over.
00:24:51.000As gold's most accurate forecasters say, the longest rally in at least nine decades has further to go no matter what the economy holds.
00:25:03.000Analysts raised their 2011 forecast more than for any other precious metal In the past two months, predicting a 10th annual advance, data compiled by Bloomberg shows the most widely held option of gold futures traded in New York for 1,500 an ounce by December.
00:25:55.000And it's a market fundamental that as the Federal Reserve announces quantitative easing and a move towards global SDRs,
00:26:08.000another layer of digital cashless currency amongst the another layer of digital cashless currency amongst the banks, based on carbon taxes, based on carbon credits, backed up by faltering currencies, and
00:26:25.000And as governments start monetizing their debt, when the Treasury issues bonds, and governments and institutions and individuals don't buy all of them, or in some cases even half of them, the Federal Reserve comes in and creates more currency to buy its own debt.
00:26:46.000And so to put this in layman's terms, because I'm a layman myself, I've been studying it for a long time, but all the technical terms sometimes even escape me, though I try to understand it.
00:26:59.000It's kind of like saying, Vegas is 2-1 for this football team at the Super Bowl.
00:27:07.000Or Vegas has got odds for this team to win.
00:27:11.000And generally, almost always, the house wins.
00:27:15.000That's why if you bet for the underdog and win, you end up making a lot more money.
00:27:24.000There's not a very big spread of profit if you bet for who Vegas is saying is going to win the Super Bowl.
00:27:32.000So the majority of the money now on Wall Street in the futures market for December coming up in three months Is on gold going up 18% and they talk about it only increasing in value after that.
00:28:05.000Gold rallying to 1,500 as Soros bubble inflates.
00:28:10.000And every time I talk about gold, I get emails.
00:28:13.000Every time I talk about the stock market saying, well I'm not in gold so I don't care, or I'm not in the stock market so I don't care.
00:28:20.000Well, almost every major corporation and company in this country that produces jobs and pays taxes and pays for the infrastructure Is in the stock market.
00:28:33.000And that's how they're funding themselves.
00:28:36.000And the big canary in the coal mine, there's many unemployment numbers, housing starts, inflation numbers, those are always important.
00:28:47.000But the real canary in the coal mine is always gold.
00:28:56.000And the fact that the majority Or in their words, the most widely held, the most popular option on gold futures traded in New York is $1,500 an ounce by December.
00:29:16.000So, we're talking about three months from now.
00:29:22.000It's the end of August, September, October, November.
00:29:25.000Three months from now, three months and one day, technically, will be into the month of December.
00:29:31.000And Wall Street, who it's all an insider game, is saying it's going to be $1,500 an ounce.
00:29:39.000So we'll continue to discuss the economy on the other side.
00:29:44.000Then I'm going to get into the carbon taxing crowd.
00:29:50.000We're on the march, the empire's on the run.
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00:33:21.000I did hours of research Sunday night, hours of research Monday morning, about 30 minutes of scanning back over the news before I went live yesterday, and then I got so upset and so overwhelmed by everything that yesterday, and then I got so upset and so overwhelmed by everything that yesterday, overall, I was pretty negative and Anyway, You know that feeling of almost like being dirty?
00:33:52.000Like, I don't mean dirty sexually or dirty like mud on your hands or mud on your feet.
00:34:10.000I get angry and disgusted and it's like a dark cloud is hanging over my head and I'm like, why are public schools nationwide all over the country?
00:34:23.000Making children wear RFID tracker chips?
00:34:27.000Why is the government taking baby's blood secretly at birth and lying about it?
00:34:32.000Why are they scanning our naked bodies at airports and saving it?
00:34:36.000Why does the CIA admit that they've put out fake Bin Laden videos and there's no congressional investigation?
00:34:46.000Why are they putting naked body scanners in mobile trucks and federal and state courthouses?
00:34:51.000Why have foreign offshore banks stolen over $28 trillion, according to Bloomberg, in the first year since the banker bailout?
00:35:02.000Oh yeah, we haven't gotten new numbers in about eight months.
00:35:25.000I can't believe that we're in this much tyranny and that it's accelerating this fast.
00:35:32.000I see where it's going and every day I say on the broadcast, because this is all I think about, I look at my innocent children, little bitty sweet children, and how good they are and how full of
00:35:45.000Creativity and love and curiosity they are and I think about how corrupt this world is and it just makes me so angry and so disgusted that I can't even describe it.
00:36:23.000Sometimes I screw around and joke around and it's kind of good to get into that mindset sometimes so I'm not so stressed out.
00:36:32.000And all work and no play will make anybody dull.
00:36:38.000But at the same time, when I do screw around or get in a good mood, I feel guilty later, because I realize how much trouble, as a society, we're really in.
00:36:47.000I mean, the globalists, in their own records, that we've linked to and reported on, say they want to destroy our economy by design.
00:37:19.000And if we don't wake up to that and realize that we have a global corporate tyranny dominating our nation and almost every other nation on earth, and if we don't become more sophisticated and realize their systems of control, 99% of us are gonna be adversely affected by the changes happening in the world.
00:37:40.000So many of you who are compartmentalized need to wake up and realize that you are under attack.
00:37:47.000I mean, here's an example, and then I'm getting back into the economy, but here's an example.
00:37:56.000Just yesterday, We had articles written at Infowars.com repeatedly.
00:38:08.000And when I talk about this, I don't want to just come on air and talk about it and then have it just be some background chatter.
00:38:22.000I mean, I listen to rebroadcasts of my show sometimes.
00:38:27.000Sometimes it's very fluent, it's very clear, it's very eloquent, it's filled with truth and charisma, and other times I'm sitting there barking out, kind of just chirping out statistics and numbers and incredible facts and truth, but still I don't pause to illustrate just how massive the news and information is.
00:38:55.000And I don't feel worthy to even be bringing you this information.
00:39:03.000And I don't think the average bureaucrat or media minion who goes along with all of this fully understands just how murderous the globalists are and how dangerous this situation is.
00:39:15.000Tyranny is not fun, and it ends in mass murder and death. - World War II conservatively killed about 64 million people on all sides.
00:39:35.000And our government brags that they put Pol Pot into power, who killed 30% of Cambodia's population conservatively.
00:39:44.000Mao Zedong, who the Chinese say killed 84 million, 85 million, the U.S.
00:39:57.000The globalists like to wipe out large groups of people to reorganize society, to secure their ill-gotten gains, and they're getting ready to pull similar things here in the United States.
00:40:08.000This depression is only the beginning.
00:40:11.000And that isn't what I think, that's what I know.
00:40:16.000That's not my opinion, that's the historical fact.
00:40:25.000But I thought about those articles last week.
00:40:28.000Out of the hundreds of books I've read and Aaron Dykes has read, out of the hundreds and hundreds of white papers we've read, out of the hundreds of articles that Kurt Nimmo, Paul Watson, Steve Watson, Aaron Dykes, and myself, and other writers for InfoWars have written over the years, I didn't even know
00:40:47.000That for more than 20 years, the Rockefeller Foundation had released hundreds and hundreds of different documents bragging how they developed the tetanus vaccine with the female hormone added to sterilize women.
00:41:02.000I knew about the UN program when they got caught doing it in the 90s.
00:41:13.000They're proud of it, with even more stuff they're putting in the vaccines.
00:41:17.000I mean, we have them red-handed, and then I get disgusted with myself, laying in bed last night at midnight, thinking, you've had those documents for a week, you've posted a couple articles about it.
00:41:31.000Last night, I was late to my grandmother's 85th birthday party, We had one Sunday and Monday.
00:42:00.000I don't care about being well-known in the media.
00:42:03.000I don't have all these petty rivalries and things.
00:42:06.000I mean, we all do to a certain extent, but those areas in me, my ego is dissipating.
00:42:13.000I actually kind of need my ego, we all do, to propel ourselves forward, and I'm losing it.
00:42:22.000Because the reality of my food, my water...
00:42:29.000The vaccines being poisoned and having all the proof.
00:42:34.000The proof they're drugging the water and food.
00:42:36.000The proof they're adding bioweapons to the vaccines.
00:42:39.000The proof they're designing pharmacological crops and pharmacological chimera fish and pigs and other meat products designed to brain damage us, give us cancer and sterilizes.
00:42:53.000I mean it doesn't get any more heavy than that.
00:42:56.000Have you seen the end of the famous 1950s body snatchers.
00:43:01.000Guys, pull up the end of Body Snatchers.
00:43:06.000The end of the original Body Snatchers.
00:44:12.000Now I've got all their documents from the 50s, 60s, and 70s where they were planning it, now they're doing it, and literally I should be running around in traffic.
00:45:41.000They're openly announcing the global government and the new global digital currency, the Bancor, that everything else is going to be based on.
00:45:57.000When it's in the mainstream news, and the Drudge Report's even linking to it, and you guys are still running around denying it, because you spent years saying it didn't exist.
00:46:06.000We don't have time to screw around anymore.
00:46:11.000I want Glenn Beck to talk about what's in the vaccines.
00:46:14.000I want him to talk about the naked body scanners.
00:46:17.000I want him to tell his audience to do more than just vote for Republicans.
00:46:22.000Look, I just want my country and humanity back.
00:46:27.000I mean, look at this Bloomberg headline.
00:46:28.000Gold rallying to 1,500 as Soros bubble inflates.
00:46:50.000And they go on to say either a swift economic recovery or a further dismal economic performance should bring new buyers into the market, said Eugene Weinberg, an analyst with Commons.
00:47:01.000Uh, Bank AG Frankfurt, who was the most accurate forecaster in the first quarter and expects the medal to rise as high as 1,400 next year.
00:47:14.000He says a stronger economy would create more of a jewelry demand.
00:47:17.000If the economy stays weak or gets worse, then investors will be looking for a safe haven.
00:47:20.000And they go through either way you slice it.
00:47:23.000But I'm going to shut up and bring Ted Anderson up, then I'm going to get into Ron Paul questions whether there's gold at Fort Knox and the New York Fed.
00:48:45.000But you're talking about, yeah, the jewelry for India alone is going to go up from 400 tons last year, 480.
00:48:53.000This year they're expecting to see it at about 625.
00:48:55.000I mean, the demand for gold is going up.
00:48:58.000Like you said, Soros, you know, just last January, Soros was a seller in gold, calling gold one of the The asset bubbles of all time and now he's a buyer.
00:49:12.000There's so much going on in the marketplace right now.
00:49:16.000You're talking about the government knowing that we're running into a crisis.
00:49:21.000Not only do they know that we're running into a crisis, they published a document on July 27th that says that they're expecting a crisis to the magnitude Hey, Ted, your microphone's cutting out there.
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00:55:02.000He's so much caught into that insider side of things that, you know, he benefits from selling stocks.
00:55:10.000But I can tell you, gold hit $1,250 an ounce, Alex.
00:55:14.000That puts us $10 away from the market peak from the last one.
00:55:18.000I expect that gold We'll be trading much higher than the last market peak before we even hit October, and we're only in August right now, August 31st, and being $10 behind the market peak, that's pretty darn strong.
00:55:32.000Again, I would bet that George Soros is actually going to be right this time.
00:55:38.000I mean, he's a billionaire for a reason.
00:55:42.000I don't know why he was so influenced in the beginning of this year to tell people to get out of gold and that it was overinflated, but he's reversed his position 180 degrees, and he's saying, he's buying it himself.
00:55:56.000And he's expecting gold to hit $1,500 an ounce.
00:56:01.000I mean, the lowest prediction in that article that Drudge is pointing toward over at Bloomberg is $1,350 an ounce, and that's $100 higher from where we are at right now.
00:56:10.000Yeah, I mean, why wouldn't people buy gold coins that you have massively discounted, that you bought back when gold was $60, $70 lower a month ago?
00:56:20.000Why wouldn't they then get all those savings passed forward And then have all of this upside if they were getting it for an investment.
00:56:29.000I get gold and silver as an emergency backup because I know the history of Germany and Zimbabwe and Europe and this country with devaluations of currency and I know that it's a great hedge against economic uncertainty and that's why Bloomberg says most people are getting into it.
00:56:47.000And then I've got all this other news.
00:56:49.000Ron Paul Questions whether there's gold at Fort Knox, New York and the Fed.
00:57:32.000That's why it's there in the first place.
00:57:34.000For any Americans that think that government isn't tyrannical, Roosevelt said, give me all your gold, I'm gonna give you paperback, and a year later, basically doubled the price of an ounce, and it turned out that the Firestone family and others had set up secret purchasing arms in Europe, just trying to buy their own gold back, and they got prosecuted.
00:58:34.000I'll tell you what, Ted, I got Joel Scalston coming up at the 5 after, but I want to go over some other economic news with you in one moment.
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01:00:40.000We're going to cover a lot of topics with Joel and take calls interspersed throughout the extended interview with him coming up.
01:00:48.000Also, we're going to be talking about control of food supply to be handed over to Department of Homeland Security.
01:00:54.000And this is directly out of S-510, deceptively titled the Food Safety and Modernization Act.
01:01:02.000I'm going to be talking more about that, but getting back into financial news.
01:01:06.000This is Bloomberg talking to top analysts.
01:01:09.000They say the most accurate analyst predicts that it's going to be $1,400 an ounce by the end of this year.
01:01:16.000But the most widely held future option on gold is $1,500 by December, or an 18% increase.
01:01:24.000And they go on to admit this is because the federal government has announced that they're going to allow the private Federal Reserve to start monetizing the debt.
01:01:33.000That's what happened in Weimar Republic, Germany.
01:02:22.000And currently, this is what you need to go out and basically buy a small meal.
01:02:29.000So if you want to go into one of their restaurants and have a bowl of rice and maybe some beef stew and a glass of Pepsi, you need... Is that $50 trillion or $500 trillion?
01:03:00.000They inflate the money to buy real assets while they're in control, then they leave you holding the bag and tell you with tax money you've got to pay all this off.
01:03:10.000Just like Obama has spent more than all presidents before him combined, As bad as George W. Bush was, as you go towards the end of this, it accelerates.
01:04:12.000each the 800 number here is 1-800-686-2237 again 1-800-686-2237 if nothing else read that CBO document man that is like just that tells the story right there we need 4,000 more regulators to cover this S510 that you just mentioned a little bit earlier That's going to cost us billions of dollars that the United States don't have.
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01:09:46.000That from the original Body Snatcher back in the 1950s.
01:09:51.000And no, we're not saying aliens are real or pod people are coming to get us.
01:09:57.000But that's the feeling I have a lot when I'm reading a Rockefeller Foundation document about how they did develop vaccines where it's a tetanus pathogen with a female hormone added to it to sterilize the woman from 1968.
01:10:14.000And we link to those at InfoWars.com on the Rockefeller Foundation website.
01:10:23.000And then I've got mainstream news articles from the 90s where the U.N. was caught sterilizing women with these vaccines.
01:10:30.000And then I get John P. Holdren's book, The White House Science Czar, about drugging the water supply.
01:10:37.000And then we discover they're already testing it.
01:10:40.000And you tell people this and it sounds crazy, just like 15 years ago when I got secret documents from a nurse that all children at birth had their blood taken for a secret eugenics database.
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01:11:25.000It's been many years since I had him on and I had him on last week It had been many years since he'd been on when I had him on last week, and I wanted to have him on for an extended interview to cover a bunch of issues quickly, to get his take, his view, because it's thought-provoking and insightful, on a host of issues, and to also take your comments or questions at 1-800-259-9231.
01:11:46.000And so he was on with us a few weeks ago.
01:12:00.000He, of course, is the nephew of Cleon Skousen, who wrote two best-selling books exposing the whole globalist system, the whole New World Order system.
01:12:08.000That was really a seminal work that led to Nondare Call, a conspiracy, and many others.
01:12:14.000served as a fighter pilot for the US Marine Corps during Vietnam, and of course has also been a writer and researcher speaking widely around the United States and the world, very accurately exposing the globalist agenda, and worldaffairsbrief.com is his website, and he joins us now.
01:12:36.000I must say I was surprised at the overwhelming response I was getting at World Affairs Brief after our interview.
01:12:44.000It just seems like people are hungry to make sense of some of the contradictions that are out there.
01:12:49.000There's just an awful lot of disinformation and a lot of problem information floating on the web, and people listen, I think, to your show to get some understanding about that.
01:13:00.000Well, we have a wide spectrum of guests and ideas here, but at the end of the day, we've been pretty accurate about forecasting where society's going, and I concur with much of your analysis and breakdown of society.
01:13:13.000I want to move through a lot of news with you today, but last time you were on, we ran out of time.
01:13:20.000Getting into one section of the World Affairs Brief you did a month or two ago, dealing with the dark side of law enforcement and the military, and how Iraq and Afghanistan were being used as laboratories to find people that will do bad things.
01:13:35.000The majority of our military and police are great people.
01:13:41.000Literally every time a police car drives by when I'm walking my dog, or I'm in a coffee shop, or walk out of a restaurant and police come over and they're oath keepers, they're patriots.
01:13:51.000They would laugh at us ten years ago, but they heard us talk about this stuff, and now ten years later they've seen it all come true, so they're really paying attention now.
01:14:01.000So I know they're good men and women, but For every 10 good officers, they find that sociopath, that psychopath, that control freak who's attracted to power, and they recruit them.
01:14:14.000And I've been aware of this from my own research, and also studying other authoritarian systems like the Nazis and others, and the Communists.
01:14:22.000But you say you've got a lot of sources and have done some of your own research on it.
01:14:26.000So I'd like you to spend the balance of this segment on that.
01:14:29.000Then we'll spend a segment on whatever issue you think is most important.
01:14:32.000And then I've got a bunch of questions I want to throw at you on a laundry list of issues.
01:14:41.000You're referring to my article commenting on Top Secret America, the hidden world growing beyond control, the Washington Post put out.
01:14:49.000And as I point out, you know, whenever a shill for the government puts out a supposed expose about government, it's a cover, it's a diversion.
01:14:58.000Because what they will reveal will be enticing, will be interesting, and they do drop a few secrets here and there, nothing harmful to the system.
01:15:06.000But what was totally missing from this whole Eight-part series on Top Secret America with anything of substance about what is being done in secret.
01:15:15.000The difference between what I call the white side of government and the black side.
01:15:20.000And increasingly, what's been happening in the United States is the black side has been growing by leaps and bounds.
01:15:28.000And just to recap for your listeners, in every law enforcement agency of the United States federal government, whether it is the DEA, the CIA, the FBI, the INS, ICE, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, There are good guys, white side people, the type of people that you were mentioning and talking about, the type of people we expect to be in there.
01:15:51.000And they still recruit for that side, specifically.
01:15:54.000They like to recruit a lot of Mormons, for example, who have been returned missionaries, clean cut.
01:15:59.000They make good, naive government supporters.
01:16:02.000They come into the CIA and the FBI and they make good believers because they're taught religiously to support their government and to support law and order.
01:16:10.000But you know, that could be a fault when you refuse to see what you see and what happens in government.
01:16:17.000And so there's an increasingly active dark side of every organization.
01:16:22.000I'm convinced now, Alex, that the dark side of government, because of the increase in the use of private military contractors to breed and cull out and to recruit unprincipled people, Has grown to be larger than the white side on every one of these organizations now.
01:16:43.000They're bigger than the white side now.
01:16:45.000And it's becoming increasingly difficult to hide the activities of dark side.
01:16:50.000Now that's one of the reasons why I think Top Secret America was written.
01:16:53.000was to hide behind the excuse of overgrowth, overcomplexity, over 2,000 private military contractors dealing with hundreds of federal agencies, some of them with no names that we don't understand that are hidden behind multiple layers in the government. some of them with no names that we don't understand But I'm convinced this whole thing is a charade to make sure that people have an excuse to be able to write this off as, well, we can't understand it, it's just too complex now.
01:17:22.000And that was the purpose of the Washington Post article.
01:17:26.000Well, they say 854,000 spies, but if you look at InfraGard, the clergy response teams, the Protestants, the Catholics, the Mormons, the Rabbis, they have all, as part of a nine-year-old program now, been infiltrated and taught When the martial law comes, tell them go to the FEMA camps.
01:17:49.000I mean, this is in the documents that we got three years before it was mainstream news.
01:17:54.000Then they had mainstream newscasts with preachers going, yes, during martial law, the enemy of the government is the people, not the people are the government, and the government serves them in the Bill of Rights and Constitution.
01:18:05.000And so there is this giant complex of control.
01:18:08.000And even though a lot of it's been secret, We've gotten a lot of the different pieces of it from good people inside government, and then later the establishment comes out and kind of hides it in plain view and puts their own spin on it.
01:18:33.000as spies, and then you look at the architecture, Joel, the whole thing is pointed at gun owners, conservatives, libertarians, returning veterans, as the MIAC and Homeland Security reports show.
01:18:46.000None of it is pointed, except for PR purposes on the surface, at Muslims, at alciatus.
01:18:56.000One of the things we have to understand, however, is that this program of integrating naive church people into the system is informal at best.
01:19:06.000It is not knit together in a closed, completely numbered call 1-2-3 and this is guaranteed to happen.
01:19:15.000They're heading that way in the future, but we're actually quite a long way off from that.
01:19:19.000They're still in the building process of seeing who can be snookered into supporting these without having any warning signals go up.
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01:24:57.000uh... you know is this person a patriot i mean i mean we've gotten footage that people shot at these meetings and the founding fathers were terrorists i mean i actually have video of this and So they find out who buys into it.
01:25:10.000So 90% leave disgusted, but they find the 10% that either like the tyranny or are gullible.
01:25:19.000But as you said, just like it took them decades to make the dark side as big or bigger than the light side, now they're trying to take over any area of influence and convert it to the dark side.
01:25:36.000Well, this is awfully hard to document because as I say, there's a great deal of...
01:25:42.000Signing documents saying that you won't reveal anything about what you're shown at these presentations.
01:25:47.000That's very difficult to get people to talk.
01:25:49.000I can tell you that psychologically, they're really playing up in Christianity by making it a beleaguered profession or a beleaguered religion so that they induce people to want to get the protection of government.
01:26:04.000That's how they've duped in an awful lot of what used to be very, very conservative Religious people, whether it was Falwell or Dobson or many of those other people, got to buy into supporting the Republican establishment, even though they were being betrayed by the Republican establishment during the Bush year.
01:26:22.000It was that elicitation of the concept that you can be mainstream, you can be protected, we won't criticize you, we'll give you good press, we'll make sure that good articles are written on you in Time and Newsweek.
01:26:38.000And believe me, a lot of those people, because the R2 side, as you know, Alex, has very, very limited funding.
01:26:49.000Everybody's looking out for, and they find out when you take a hard line stand that your funding kind of dries up, and that's one of the reasons why I'm really skeptical of what happens to the Tea Party.
01:26:59.000When you have big dollar people come in and start to finance things within the Tea Parties, we find out they're not on our side.
01:27:33.000The story about Karzai threatening to throw out private military contractors within four months in Afghanistan, I can guarantee you, will not happen.
01:27:43.000Whether or not he's even being sincere in saying this, I'm not sure.
01:27:47.000Because he may be doing it to protect his own survival within Afghanistan, which is growing in hatred against the sabotage of private military contractors.
01:27:58.000He even mentioned on one of the news shows that they've been involved in terrorism.
01:28:02.000And that's basically acting as a cover for the dark side of CIA activities who do control their own set of terrorists for conflict creation.
01:28:11.000And the private military contractors are increasingly taking those roles because when they use military people to do it, they have too many whistleblowers.
01:28:18.000Yeah, let's not move, exactly, it gives another membrane of deniability, but you just mentioned something key.
01:28:25.000Contractors staging their own terror attacks.
01:28:28.000They've caught British SAS operating as contractors and others dressed up as Muslims attacking our installations and that's the reports that come out again and again and again.
01:28:40.000If you've got a trillion dollar a year global war machine, of course it's going to create The enemy and if it has to stage its own attacks as a pretext to continue that war of global domination Well, that's what we've talked about in our last interview I think the the motive is not simply the industrial military complex in Gaining more riches and making people that's always an inducement to be sure but it's not the main goal I think the main goal is to create a
01:29:10.000Uh, constant warfare for the purpose of, uh, rearranging the chess pieces on the World Chess Board of, uh, of governments and working towards a new, new world order government.
01:29:21.000Uh, we mustn't keep, uh, we mustn't lose sight of the fact that, uh, these more ethereal goals about creating conflict for the purpose of, of even larger wars and rearranging governments on the space of the world is what they're really after.
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01:33:25.000Okay, I got a lot of questions I want to throw at Joel Skousen just to get his view on the mosque situation at Ground Zero, the Bloomberg saying that most analysts agree that gold's going to be $1,500 an ounce by December, what's happening with our economy, but also bigger issues like what are they getting the chessboard ready for?
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01:36:48.000Okay, going back to Joel Skousen, great analyst and researcher.
01:36:53.000Finish up with the point you were making before the break and then Whatever you think is most important today, then I want to take some phone calls, and when we start the next hour, I'll continue with calls, but I've got a laundry list of questions that I want to go over with you today, Joel Skousen.
01:37:11.000But what is most concerning you right now?
01:37:14.000What do you think is most important right now?
01:37:17.000It sounds like, going to break, you were hinting the co-opting of the Tea Party, which we know was founded by the Ron Paul movement.
01:37:24.000He wrote an editorial that was published yesterday.
01:37:27.000It's up on Infowars.com, saying that the Republicans are controlled by the very same globalists, where they have better rhetoric, they are the same people, and basically warning that Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck are bad news, and that they're not really giving people the truth.
01:37:48.000But Joel Skousen, what do you think is most important?
01:37:51.000Before I go to some of those big picture items, and it's very true, the co-opting of the resistance movement is the most important criteria for them right now.
01:38:02.000And I'll explain, I think, how they're doing that.
01:38:04.000But before we leave the secret America thing, I really want to take a few minutes to give some very good specifics to your audience about how they recruit people, how they operate within the dark side, how they get people to cross over from the white side to the dark side.
01:38:19.000Because I think this is fascinating to people, and they need to understand this when their children go into the military, or when they naively go into work for the FBI, or the CIA, or the DEA, how this process happens.
01:38:33.000Oftentimes we stay too general, and I want to give some specifics before we go on.
01:38:37.000I once had a friend of mine who happened to be a Mormon.
01:38:40.000A lot of Mormons are recruited into the CIA and the FBI because they've got that clean-cut image, and they are very pro-American.
01:38:49.000Well, he got assigned overseas because a lot of Mormon returned missionaries have these language skills.
01:38:54.000They speak all the languages of the world, and that's why they're very anxious to get him into the CIA.
01:39:01.000So he got assigned overseas, and he was at a hotel one night, and he got a knock on the door, and there was a very good-looking woman, and she was there to offer her services.
01:39:11.000And he said, no, no, you know, I don't do that kind of thing.
01:40:01.000And then we see skull and bones that founded CIA, homosexual type activity.
01:40:07.000And at Bohemian Grove, Nixon wouldn't partake.
01:40:09.000But he told Harper's Magazine that basically to get involved in California politics, you got to go in there and have gay sex.
01:40:18.000And so if he would have had sex with that You know, number 10 hooker, and I've never been in an intelligence agency, but I've had them send beautiful hookers at me, same deal, repeatedly.
01:40:31.000But, side issue, the point is, then if you accept that, it gets worse and worse.
01:40:36.000Serpico, of course the New York City narcotics detective, it was, hey, take this free diamond necklace, give it to your girlfriend.
01:40:53.000Yeah, what I'm trying to get at is that there are ways in which, and there's a corruption is always the issue, that you've got to make sure that you're morally corruptible, because they do not want, they like to have people who have a clean cut appearance who can fool other people, but they want to make sure that they're corruptible, and that's why in the military A lot of the CIA, now, recruiters are military officers.
01:41:17.000They're basically taken aside by the CIA to say, hey, you've done really well, we want you to recruit for us.
01:41:22.000They don't even have to be corrupt themselves, but they usually are.
01:41:27.000But generally speaking, they're meant to look out and talk how to psychologically profile people that they want to bring in undercover under the CIA.
01:41:35.000That's how Timothee Covey got recruited.
01:41:38.000It's very interesting that Timothee Covey, and I'll tell the specific incident, That he was in the military, he was doing a lot, really doing well, he had a lot of good reports, he was very people's oriented, he had a good leadership report.
01:41:50.000He got recruited into the CIA by one of his officers, and what they do, it's just like CIA sheep dipping people, or calling them out of the service, they go to work for someone in the private sector.
01:42:02.000And in this case, but they're always missing for about a year or two.
01:42:08.000He had no contact with his family for over a year.
01:42:11.000And when he finally surfaced to show up to take a job at various private security companies, and the CIA has a lot of operators that deal with private security companies like Wackenhut and others that are essentially CIA fronts.
01:42:25.000That's how they get their agents and work their deals in the prison.
01:42:29.000That's how they put the screws on people in prisons.
01:42:33.000Because they can essentially, you know, get things done through these private agencies.
01:42:37.000But he went to, and all of a sudden his modus operandi changed.
01:43:01.000Now, that's at complete variance to what his record was in the military before he was recruited out.
01:43:08.000Now, some people suspect that during this two-year period, the people that are being trained to do a suicide attack or something like he did at Oklahoma City bombing go on to some form of drug therapy, mind control, and other things.
01:43:24.000Now, as I've studied the mind control issue, Alex, I don't believe they could take normal people and change them against their will.
01:43:32.000But they can take corruptible people under the influence of drugs and severe hostile-type training and destabilize them to the point where they make them extremely subjective to hypnosis and to demands of leadership and control.
01:43:46.000Well, sure, but we know that Jolly and West, the number two mind-control doctor under Ewing Cameron, who was even in the MKUltra congressional hearings, was with him from the time he was arrested until the time he was executed.
01:44:02.000in the mainstream media said, why is a top mind control doctor, McVeigh's psychiatrist, and you would watch him on the news, he was bombed out of his mind.
01:44:11.000I mean, I'm not a cop who's an expert on somebody on drugs, but you can look at somebody when their eyes are glassy and they're clearly on drugs.
01:44:19.000I mean, McVeigh in those 60-minute interviews looked like a drug head versus people that were near him in the jails, and I've interviewed some of them, and McVeigh was like, look, I was recruited into the CIA.
01:44:31.000We know he was videotaped at a demolitions base a year and a half after he was supposedly out.
01:44:39.000Of course, Terry Nichols has now signed a sworn affidavit that McVeigh said he was being set up.
01:44:44.000So instead of just mind control, clearly mind control and drugged, so he's incoherent once they've caught him, but he thought He was part of a larger operation to set up the white supremacist Southern Poverty Law Center run, it came out in federal documents, and that he was being set up.
01:45:01.000And clearly he was then finally set up.
01:45:04.000So it's kind of like Lee Harvey Oswald, who we now know was admitted CIA.
01:45:17.000He surfaced only once, and that was to fulfill an appointment with a psychiatrist to set up his bona fides with someone who had mental problems, which provided his defense.
01:45:29.000And he was World Vision, and so was the guy that shot, of course, the famous Beatle, John Lennon.
01:45:45.000I mean, even going back to Jack Anderson, the follow-on journalist, yellow journalist after Drew Pearson.
01:45:52.000Jack Anderson came home as a Mormon missionary, disappeared for two years, surfaced in China, of all places.
01:46:00.000Didn't speak Chinese, but surfaced in China, had undergone language training, and then suddenly came out and went into the journalistic world working for Drew Pearson.
01:46:09.000Well, the guy was never active as a Mormon again.
01:46:11.000He had lost his principles, he was immoral, he had all these bad habits.
01:46:18.000You know, how do you just disappear, come out of China, and then go work for Drew Pearson in a major Washington Marigold round scenario?
01:46:26.000It's very interesting that later on in his life, he kind of had a bout of repentance that he told Howard Ruff.
01:46:34.000Started to, you know, get to him about, you know, I've got to change.
01:46:37.000I've been on the black side for so many years.
01:46:42.000And, uh, kind of had a mea culpa moment.
01:46:45.000And, uh, unfortunately he never got out, even though he tried to turn around and tried to leave the dark side.
01:46:51.000Uh, he was, he never told tales about how he got to where he was and, uh, who was controlling him during the period, who was feeding him information from the left when he was sabotaging.
01:47:04.000Anastasia Samosa, Nicaragua, and doing the hatchet job that people like, you know, these special reporters that work for the CIA do, as Drew Pearson used to do.
01:47:14.000He did a hatchet job on General Patton.
01:47:16.000He was the one who revealed the slapping incident.
01:47:19.000Come to find out, of course, Paul S. Allen, his partner in Washington-Maryland, used to be on the staff of General Patton.
01:47:27.000And he is suspected of having leaked the information to Pearson.
01:47:31.000And that's how John Paulus Allen got into league with Pearson later on after Patton was killed.
01:47:38.000They did a hatchet job on Forrestal, the admiral who, like MacArthur, tried to have a strong defense against Truman's sabotage.
01:47:48.000Forrestal then ended up being thrown out of a window at Bethesda Naval Hospital and ruled a suicide.
01:47:54.000I mean, the dark stuff in this government is just incredible.
01:47:58.000What we know is just the tip of the iceberg.
01:48:01.000And now we know it's a giant submerged iceberg, and I agree with you that they've converted more than half of the people in these private and public bureaucracies into the dark side where they're compromised.
01:48:15.000And that's why I speak to them so often on air.
01:48:18.000And I point out, look, you're going to be destroyed at the end of this And in every case in history, when these tyrannies fully come to power, which the system's attempting to do right now, the first group they wipe out are the people that brought them to power, because you know where the bodies are buried, and you understand how to overthrow them, and so you are in more danger than somebody who's on the light side, who's actually fighting the dark side.
01:48:46.000But once you've ever taken anything from the dark side, they then see it that they Own you.
01:48:52.000It's almost like a spiritual principle.
01:48:56.000And I've seen more and more historians talk about this.
01:49:22.000They are disposable and I really, if any of those people are listening, I mean there's hundreds of people out there who are demolition experts that put charges in the World Trade Center.
01:49:32.000There are hundreds and thousands of people who worked on underground military bases and other special prison camps that built these facilities.
01:49:40.000And believe me, it's amazing how well they keep the secret of what they're doing.
01:49:46.000And the underground bunker system that was built there, and literally they had hundreds and hundreds of workers building this very interesting underground bunker system, and the word simply did not leak out.
01:49:58.000It was just incredible how they did it.
01:50:00.000But we need whistleblowers to come forth.
01:50:03.000That's the reason, Alex, that they've gone to private military contractors rather than people in the military.
01:50:10.000They did it all through the 80s of trying to Swear military people to secrecy, people who flew drugs in their helicopters down to South America during the Iran-Contra thing, who flew it back to Maine, Arkansas, one of them having an open mic when Bill Clinton was on board and talking about how much money he was getting from You know, the Arkansas Bond Fund and his relationship with the P.I.A.
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01:54:08.000I've got a bunch of other questions that I want to get Joel's expert take on, but I do before he leaves us, so remind me if I forget Joel sometime in the next hour.
01:54:18.000Let's get back into your ideas of how to get contractors or government people to safely be able to blow the whistle.
01:54:28.000Because they can have them sign agreements or whatever.
01:54:31.000There's no Nuremberg defense of just following orders, as you know.
01:54:36.000But they're fully aware of the fact that they're under surveillance.
01:54:39.000And they've got watchers watching the watchers.
01:54:43.000And that's why they spend, what, $500, $600, $700 billion on budget for black ops a year, a trillion plus on defense. - Yeah.
01:54:53.000A lot of it is economic saboteurs, spying on other corporations and giving it to the Chinese.
01:55:52.000And I also believe that people should go to town meetings and fight for clean water and rights to be able to have a yard sale or build a shed or whatever.
01:56:04.000And I believe that we should like contact store manufacturers and stuff and tell them to, you know, get good food on the shelves and, Well, Jason, I appreciate your call.
01:56:15.000I want to get Joel's take on that, but you just raised a bunch of issues.
01:56:57.000Things about prayer, I think we do need the Lord's help.
01:57:00.000I am not one of those believers, however, that you can simply pray that the Lord will make evil-controlled people good.
01:57:08.000He will not interfere with their free agency to choose.
01:57:12.000They have chosen the evil side, I pray.
01:57:16.000Most precipitously to try to get good people to wake up and to be able to see wolves in sheep's clothing.
01:57:22.000But I don't think we can simply pray prayer.
01:57:24.000We have to pray in an inspired manner.
01:57:26.000We have to listen to the will of the Lord about what's appropriate to pray for and be guided by that.
01:57:32.000Joel, how do you deal with it psychologically or spiritually?
01:57:37.000Because one philosopher said, when you stare into the abyss, be careful you don't become the abyss, or someone else said, I forget who, that when you dance with the devil, the devil doesn't change, he changes you.
01:57:49.000Just studying this every day and learning about the enemy and learning about their mind, I've gotten to the point, I've always been disgusted by it, but now, It just gets worse and worse.
01:58:02.000As I learn how they operate and what they think and get inside their heads and can see what they're seeing, think what they're thinking, it really, really gets to me.
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02:00:58.000And I'm sick of how outrageous it's gotten.
02:01:00.000And I know the globalists are trying to break our spirit, break our will, sell us on accepting anything and everything evil, making us capitulate.
02:01:10.000Breaking our spirit, I guess, is the word.
02:01:13.000But, Joel, finish up your comment on that.
02:01:15.000Well, you know, I fought this same battle for many, many years and I finally got a handle on it.
02:01:19.000I used to be very, very depressed because not only was I discovering more and more evil and more and more collusion between government and judges, everybody, there's a great deal of involvement.
02:01:34.000But it's interesting that as I realize at some point, you know, I still have a life to live.
02:02:18.000Most of your listeners are dealing with a spouse or friends or other people who just don't innately feel as passionate as you and I may feel about this.
02:02:28.000We have to not be too pushy on people and give them time to absorb this and give them credible information.
02:02:35.000Wait till they sense that something's wrong.
02:02:38.000That, Alex, takes the frustration away.
02:02:41.000I've seen people literally destroy their marriages by going at this thing with a bludgeon, trying to hit people over the head and say, can't you see that this world is crumbling?
02:02:50.000I think we have to look at and take this as a test.
02:02:54.000We're all being tested in this world to see who's going to see, who's going to sense that something's wrong.
02:02:59.000And I try not to get in the way of people's blindness.
02:03:02.000If they're willfully blind, I'm going after the people who sense that something's wrong that I can influence.
02:03:08.000Well, I agree with you on that issue, and plus, this is important, powerful info.
02:03:15.000If you try to push it on people, they automatically refuse.
02:03:18.000But if you just state, here's the facts, this is the way it is, and you know deep down that we're all in danger, and society is unraveling by design, so these globalists can build this nightmare system on its ashes.
02:03:34.000And ten years ago, I would get 50-50 positive, you know, 50% negative.
02:03:44.000I mean, people are really starting to wake up.
02:03:47.000That's why the system is injecting co-opted people, greenhorns, and that's how I see Glenn Beck.
02:03:56.000is that one show I'll watch and it's all truth, the next show I watch it's Neocon Lies and he sells it like he really believes it a lot of the time, but I see people like Glenn Beck as basically a greenhorn that they're handling and using.
02:04:12.000Well, my view and I know quite a bit about Glenn and in fact his mentor and his conservative philosophy is my uncle W. Clem Skousen, who's a great mentor.
02:04:24.000But Glenn even saw things through rose-colored glasses.
02:04:27.000It took me two years before he died, Alex, before I could convince him that, in fact, Bush was part of the problem and was not redeemable, and the Republicans were part of the problem.
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02:08:20.00050,000 unstoppable watts All right, let's go back to Joel Skousen.
02:08:27.000I hate to get back into Glenn Beck here on the show, but clearly you can see the media building him up for a fall, making Glenn and Sarah Palin the leaders of the Tea Party.
02:08:40.000And we know News Corp and Fox News is totally pro-New World Order.
02:08:47.000They've denied world government, made fun of it for decades.
02:08:50.000Now everything we talked about has come true.
02:08:53.000Everything Cleon Skousen talked about has unfolded.
02:08:56.000Everything Joel Skousen for 30-something years has talked about has happened.
02:08:59.000Everything I've been talking about for 15 years is now out in the open.
02:09:04.000And Glenn Beck says Cleon Skousen, you know, is his main political mentor, and I guess spiritual mentor.
02:09:13.000And, you know, we've got his nephew, author and researcher on, Joel Skousen, right now.
02:09:19.000And, meanwhile, he's saying, if you're a 9-11 truth or you're scum of the earth, the army needs to be used against you.
02:09:25.000Ron Paul's money bomb might want to blow things up.
02:09:30.000And so I've really seen him go to the White House, get orders from Bush, come out and say there are no FEMA camps, no plans for camps.
02:09:39.000I see him going, well, the MIAC report's out there, but it's not that bad.
02:09:44.000And then I hear him on another show tell the truth.
02:10:47.000First, Naked Communist, then Naked Capitalist, and then, of course, he wrote the great, beautiful volume, The Making of America, a real seminal work.
02:10:54.000His 5,000-year leap has gone to bestseller status because of Glenn Beck recommending it.
02:10:59.000It's not quite as good, frankly, from my point of view, as The Making of America.
02:11:05.000But at least it's done its job in terms of getting people to be interested in the Constitution.
02:11:09.000And I think Glenn's done a great job about that.
02:11:27.000But he's unstable and he's controllable.
02:11:30.000Sarah Palin is, to a certain extent, what I would call corruptible.
02:11:34.000She's been corrupted by the money that has been offered her, not only for the book deals, but for the private jet, for the handlers, all of this stuff that's being paid for.
02:11:44.000You know, she was just on her, clad on her back financially as governor of Alaska until they offered her this deal that she couldn't refuse.
02:11:54.000Now, they've learned how to play Sarah Palin very, very smart.
02:11:58.000They have not told her, all right, you know, we're in control.
02:12:03.000But they know how to play her, so to speak, so that they can convince her to do stupid things like endorse John McCain for Senate and other bad endorsements that she's made.
02:12:14.000Glenn Beck is a more complex character.
02:12:16.000He comes from an unstable background, alcoholism, drug abuse, you know, some other things that I won't mention.
02:12:24.000He's come from a rock music background, makes him a little bit unstable.
02:14:06.000You know, sincere people have this problem, Alex, is that they can't admit they were wrong many times.
02:14:11.000They actually have to screw up their mind and convince themselves that what they feel is not right.
02:14:19.000Well, yeah, George Orwell called that Crime Stop.
02:14:22.000If you're having a thought, you know, Big Brother is saying that he's always been at war with East Asia, but just yesterday the news said that Big Brother had never been at war with East Asia.
02:14:33.000It's Crime Stop that when you realize that this is propaganda, you convince yourself that, no, that's just a conspiracy theory.
02:14:41.000But, I mean, the reports are You know, that his mother died mysteriously, probably suicide, all these other weird family problems.
02:14:51.000Then he allows himself to be videotaped saying he fake cries on TV.
02:14:58.000I mean, I see him, and nobody's perfect, As somebody who they're really building up to be the leader of the Patriot Movement, because it was already there because of myself, Ron Paul, you know, your uncle, yourself, and thousands of other prominent, you know, real people, and that the system was losing credibility just denying that any of this exists.
02:15:20.000So here comes Glenn Beck, and he'll cover some of it, but then discredit what's real.
02:15:26.000I mean, FEMA camps under top-off one and two, Under the Emergency Centers Act, under all the military urban warfare drills, under the civilian inmate labor camp program, and by the way, I sent this to him in the month that he was hyping that he thought it was real and...
02:15:50.000You know, the Army's own admissions that they can turn sports stadiums into camps in two hours, that they do drills for shutting down cities.
02:16:36.000One's a household name and others an executive that Glenn Beck Glenn Beck, for years, has at least one producer, at sometimes five people, listening to all my shows, all my films, and that Glenn Beck literally is obsessed with Alex Jones.
02:17:25.000It's just, it's creepy to have him writing a book where I'm basically the hero under a pseudonym, but then at the end of the book he says it isn't real.
02:17:50.000She's dynamic and she's beautiful and she has all of those things that make it a good manipulated ploy for people.
02:17:57.000But I'm convinced that they're maintaining Palin.
02:18:00.000They gave her her position on Fox News to increase her exposure.
02:18:03.000They could dump Glenn Beck anytime they wanted to if they really wanted to.
02:18:07.000But I think they like having a fallible foil out there in front of the people.
02:18:11.000Because at once, in terms of credible independence, Glenn Beck doesn't get a lot of traction because of his goofy nature and his sticking his tongue out and making pictures.
02:18:20.000You know, they don't put anybody well-spoken on Fox.
02:18:24.000When they want to talk about the birther issue and the birth certificate of this TIA background of Obama, they don't put someone credible who has the facts.
02:18:33.000They put someone like the former military doctor in there who didn't know what he was talking about, didn't even know the difference between a birth certificate and a certification of live birth from a lie.
02:18:45.000They're putting up false heroes in front of us to divert public from those that would really do a good job.
02:18:53.000And I think that's what the Tea Party people have to realize is happening.
02:18:57.000Why do you think they're so concerned?
02:18:59.000And again, this isn't an ego trip, folks.
02:19:01.000I mean, the websites are bigger than Limbaugh and bigger than Sean Hannity and Glen Beck's combined, just one of my sites.
02:19:09.000We do reach millions of people every day now.
02:19:12.000But I tell you, that's creepy and it makes me see how weak I am and how fallible I am and the responsibility I've got, Joel, because I never intended to be having this big of an effect.
02:19:25.000Well, you know, at least... Well, there's a difference between people like Rush Limbaugh and O'Reilly and Hannity.
02:19:39.000These people are actually on the other side, in my opinion.
02:19:42.000They're just playing the conservative.
02:19:43.000Glenn Beck is sincerely on our side, but he's manipulated.
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02:23:57.000off the grid news.com okay i said i get your calls just we're all over the map here but it's always an informative and enlightening conversation with joel scalson uh Let's at least get to these five callers.
02:24:22.000Michael in Texas, you're on the air, go ahead.
02:24:26.000Hey folks, thanks for taking the call.
02:24:28.000Alex, first of all, I just want to let you know, I feel your pain sometimes when I'm listening to the program and I hear, I almost have tears in my eyes because just, this is a natural human emotion to be angry and to to want to warn your fellow man, you have outgoing love and concern for people.
02:24:48.000So don't you ever feel bad that you're getting angry or animated about this.
02:24:53.000It's the dumbed-down, drugged-up, fluoridated society that is just turned into zombies that is the antithesis of what we should be.
02:25:04.000Well Michael it's just that when I talk about being upset about this stuff it's just getting worse because everything we talked about is true and worse Yeah, and because I've studied history, I've studied these, you know, scientific dictators.
02:25:20.000I know their program, but to really see it now moving so quickly, and I guess it's that I have children, you know, eight years old, six, and two.
02:25:31.000And every time I look at them, I think about how dangerous this world is, and I just wish other people would realize how dangerous this is.
02:25:41.000Joel Skousen, can you comment to that for new listeners out there who tune in and may be wondering if this world government's real, or if it is real, maybe it's a good thing?
02:25:54.000You know, intrinsically, there's nothing wrong with government at any level that defends fundamental rights in a proper way and is limited by constitutional government.
02:26:03.000You could do that at a federal level, at a state level, or even at a world level, but that isn't where they're headed.
02:26:09.000There is a conspiracy for world government, I can assure people.
02:26:13.000I've got the evidence to back that up, and there is a major movement to project that.
02:26:44.000Over half don't believe the government, you know, story on 9-11.
02:26:48.000And yet, so the establishment's very, very worried about where we're going.
02:26:52.000Now, that's why I believe, Alex, that they're going to pull a war on us to bring people into line, to make people forget about their doubts.
02:27:00.000War someday is going to be the big stick that's going to knock people over the head and bring them into line.
02:27:05.000I agree with you, but I want to get a final comment from Michael, but finishing up on that topic.
02:27:12.000There's no doubt he gave up his citizenship to become an Indonesian citizen and took the name Barry Sitaro.
02:27:20.000And now, Wayne Madsen, you were on with him right after him last week.
02:27:25.000Wayne Madsen got the other school certificate with another name.
02:27:29.000I mean, this guy's got more names than a South American drug lord.
02:27:39.000Bottom line, who is Barack Obama from your research?
02:27:43.000Well, Barack Obama, in my opinion, was someone who was born and raised in a leftist environment, and at some point he got brought into the New World Order, and I think it was through a CIA offer when he was at Occidental College, and then he went on.
02:28:01.000I think he was working undercover for the CIA and occasionally attending.
02:28:06.000Uh, from there on, but at some point, you know, you take a leftist and he's still active, a part of a leftist, but he's been bought and sold, and the proof of that, of course, when they make him wealthy.
02:28:15.000I mean, how does a fourth-rate attorney, who, by the way, lost his license in 2008, gave up his license because, to avoid charges that he had lied on his Bar Association application?
02:28:27.000I mean, this guy's a fraud from the very beginning, but the real sign is when they make him wealthy.
02:28:32.000You know that a fourth-rate lawyer working for community services isn't going to make enough to buy a $9 million property in Hawaii or a $1.5 million house in Chicago.
02:28:44.000This guy's been, you know, co-opted, and I think he's a controlled entity.
02:28:57.000I was woken up because I saw him damaged by these MMR vaccines.
02:29:02.000And one of these autistic, I mean, he's a wonderful little guy, but I have the same feelings you have Alex.
02:29:08.000You look at your children every day and you say, what if, what if, but the question I would have, and I'll hang up if you can comment on it, is how do we get through to people that appear to be waking or waking up?
02:29:25.000And there's a lot of truth mixed with error.
02:29:27.000Let's say Glenn Beck, for example, talks about the Constitution.
02:29:31.000Right there, people who believe in the Constitution automatically think, well, see, I'll side with him because he talks about the Constitution.
02:29:38.000How do we get through to people and show them that there's really no difference between who's behind the scenes in the Democratic and Republican?
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02:33:28.000And it's always changing his views, but I do see him drifting towards more and more truth.
02:33:35.000I want to answer that caller's question about how do you reach out to people to know the difference between a Sarah Palin kind of Republicanoid awakening, just like Keith Olbermann was exposing tyranny when Bush was in, but as soon as Obama's in, he's now supporting it.
02:33:52.000How do we stop this Two-party tag-teaming.
02:33:57.000But first, going into a break, you said you think Limbaugh and Hannity, that they're actually dark side.
02:34:13.000I mean, everyone's, we don't know, none of us know everything that's going on behind the scenes in the dark side of government.
02:34:19.000So there's a big black hole of information because the government is keeping it secret.
02:34:24.000So it's one thing to say, you know, I really have doubts about this and this, and I have doubts about that.
02:34:29.000But that's not what Hannity and O'Reilly or Limbaugh do.
02:34:32.000Now, Limbaugh used to, before he made his first big $3 million contract in his radio career, he used to be pro-conspiracy, used to talk about it openly.
02:34:41.000He made that contract, and the next day, He wasn't just saying, you know, I'm not sure about conspiracy anymore.
02:34:47.000You could tell he hated it, and he was going to denigrate and excoriate any person who brought that subject up, and he proceeded to do so.
02:34:55.000The same thing happens with Hannity and O'Reilly.
02:34:57.000Yeah, they've got that constant smirk on their face that, to me, is an indication that there's not a legitimate sincerity, but that smirk really turns to Total disgust, total denigration when they start to talk to anybody who's got conspiracy.
02:35:12.000They're not satisfied to merely say, hey, you brought up some good points.
02:35:15.000They won't even let them finish a sentence.
02:35:18.000And that means that they bought into the concept, which I believe is part of the media conspiracy, that we must denigrate.
02:35:25.000This issue of conspiracy so that no one dares bring that up.
02:35:29.000So that none dare call it conspiracy, so that once the global system emerges, after they've built it, you know, just like a giant ship built in a hangar, it opens up and outslides the ship into the harbor.
02:35:42.000They've now launched the world government.
02:35:44.000They're now in the BBC, Times of London, AP, Time Magazine, saying world government's the answer.
02:35:51.000To all your problems, and it's exactly what Cleon Skousen said 50 years ago.
02:36:48.000If the establishment continues to just brazenly deny all this, after it's out in the open, it's going to completely politically discredit them.
02:36:56.000So I think they're putting their toe in the water with Glenn Beck, and I think with somebody who's real, like Andrew Napolitano, from my research.
02:37:15.000As I say, I think they have the war card they're going to play in order, so they may give a little bit on the conspiracy, admit a little bit, but they will never go all the way and admit that this is really real and really a threat.
02:37:28.000I'll tell you why conspiracy is so important for the media to denigrate.
02:37:32.000This is going to be the primal issue that they're going to use to institute Wholesale roundup of dissidents someday.
02:37:40.000When this war occurs, when there's a preemptive nuclear strike on America by Russia and China, our leaders are going to come out of their bunkers, and believe me, they've built brand new, very, very deep underground bunkers in the Washington D.C.
02:38:07.000We're the only ones capable of running this new government.
02:38:11.000But they will convince America, in the panic of having major destruction in this country, that they must give rebuilding power to a militarized world government.
02:38:22.000And when that war is prosecuted, all with the patriotism and knee-jerk reaction, getting behind government just like in World War II, even though our own government was instigated, starting a lot of this, they're going to have to deal with dissidents.
02:38:37.000They're going to have to deal with the Joel Skousens and the Alex Joneses who say, our government knew in advance this was a conspiracy to bring war upon us, to force us into a new world order.
02:38:47.000They will say, mark my words, Those people who believe that our government conspired to do this are traitors.
02:38:54.000They're being unfaithful to our troops.
02:39:08.000But if it's a Muslim conspiracy, that can exist because they control those decoys.
02:39:13.000It's that government and big corporations can't stage events, and that's why they hate 9-11 Truth so much in all its variants, because it introduces the idea that Gulf of Tonkin was staged, which is admitted, and Operation Ajax was staged.
02:39:29.000And once people start, you know, Seeing things for what they really are, and who stands to gain, that could potentially, if 9-11 Truth became completely mainstream, take away this globalist nuclear sneak attack.
02:39:45.000And the reason I agree with you, Joel, studying the entire geopolitical constellation...
02:39:50.000is when you read the State Department memorandums, when you read the Pentagon training, when you read NLEO 9, when I've talked to colonels and generals who are now retired and JAG officers here on the air, they on record, this is public,
02:40:07.000And they have video games, countless games out with the same script, the same plot, that America is going to be nuked by domestic terrorists working with the Russians or Chinese.
02:40:21.000So they'll nuke us, blame it on the Russians or let the Russians do it, and then blame it on Joel Skousen or Alex Jones.
02:40:28.000And in these video games, they torture the patriots.
02:40:33.000But to make a long story short, They are getting the military ready for the United States to be devastated and for I4, NATO, UN troops to occupy us.
02:40:47.000And you see Henry Kissinger and others saying, all we need is the right major crisis and the people of the United States will accept the New World Order.
02:40:56.000They will accept United Nations troops on the streets of America.
02:41:00.000And so because I realize They need a bold, devastating stroke to really re-engineer the United States into the ultimate army and to roll out their secret weapons and take over the planet with the Anglo-American establishment duking it out with the Chinese and Russians, that that is exactly the type of thing they will do, is nuke major cities and use it to totally take over and absolutely that's when they're going to send teams to arrest
02:41:29.000Tens of thousands of Americans who they know are patriots, and that's when we're going to have to defend ourselves if it comes to that.
02:41:37.000Well, and unfortunately they're not going to allow people to prepare for that.
02:41:41.000That's why I have not believed that there'll ever be any domestic terrorism using nuclear weapons.
02:41:46.000In fact, it's a lot of disinformation about loose nukes going around.
02:41:49.000In fact, the suitcase nukes are the most guarded prized possessions, the jewels Of weaponry within the Soviet Union, the continuing Soviets, and the United States government.
02:42:00.000That was simply an excuse to be able to allow the government to romp around and, you know, and foment the terrorist threat image.
02:42:08.000But if they were to allow a loose nuke to go off, a small one for example, what would the American people want to do?
02:42:13.000They'd want to prepare against nuclear radiation.
02:42:15.000And our government does not want people prepared for this.
02:42:19.000They want us held hostage to this great Preemptive nuclear strike that they're planning on unleashing upon us so that there's a maximum panic That's why when I may have explained to the last show, you know when I was hired My architectural firm, my security firm, to design nuclear prefab fallout shelters for Pakistan.
02:43:00.000Well, we know that there were cases in the 60s, 70s, and 80s where the establishment wanted to have a nuclear war and they talked about how they could get even greater control over society.
02:43:10.000I mean, that's the only way they're really going to end our free society and really try to get our guns is by a catastrophic psychological wound so that we will accept Absolutely.
02:43:23.000And, Joel, do you believe that 9-11 was a beta test for a massive controlled nuclear strike?
02:43:32.000Well, I don't think it was a beta test.
02:43:33.000I think it was a prelude to preparing the nation for it, or to see how much they could be manipulated with a terror strike.
02:43:40.000I mean, if they could pull off 9-11 and subvert all of the truth that came out about government involvement, explosives involvement, well, if they could subvert that, They knew that they could pull off a major preemptive nuclear strike and subvert the information that I have and put out on my website on how they have been covering for the Russians, how they have been continuing to allow Russia to build up and transfer technology to Russia and China, knowing that they're going to someday attack.
02:44:08.000I mean, they have to be able to cover up this information.
02:44:34.000Haven't you written a paper, in fact I remember reading it years ago, about safe places in the United States?
02:44:41.000That's right, in fact I have a new third edition coming out in a couple of months of what is called Strategic Relocation North American Guide to Safe Places.
02:44:51.000Where do you think the safest place in North America is?
02:44:53.000I mean, I know being in Central Texas, we're a major target of nukes, but if the globalists are launching the attack, will they want to destroy our own military, or will it just be the major cities to reduce population?
02:45:06.000No, they'll actually go after the military almost exclusively.
02:45:09.000That's why I predict there's only about 15 major cities that will be destroyed.
02:45:13.000They don't want to destroy all the population.
02:45:16.000They want to harness that abject panic in favor of the New World Order and rebuilding and going after this, prosecuting this patriotic war afterwards.
02:45:27.000So they want to kill the old military, bring in the foreign troops, hype up the new conscripts to go under UN globalist control.
02:45:33.000So obviously you're saying Fort Hood's a prime target for the globalist controlled strike.
02:45:53.000The Russians intend to survive this and continue to work.
02:45:56.000And so people ought not to believe the propaganda about absolute... I mean, there's going to be a tremendous devastation, if nothing else, from the EMP strike.
02:46:04.000When do you believe the globalists are going to pull the strings on their Chinese and Russian minions?
02:46:11.000Well, as you said, they don't control them.
02:46:14.000I mean, when do you see this conflict being planned?
02:46:17.000I say that my best prediction is that it's only a 50% chance by the midway in this decade, 2015, about a 90% chance by the end of this decade.
02:46:27.000I frankly think it's going to take longer to pull off just because the Russian, China especially, isn't ready yet.
02:46:36.000So 2020, you see NORAD standing down and hundreds of nukes raining down on the military.
02:46:43.000I see that there's a 90% probability in that time frame that that's where that strike is going to come.
02:47:06.000Everything they do is to destroy this Christian nation.
02:47:09.000That's their number one mission, and I tend to agree with you.
02:47:12.000I think they're going to blow the living daylights out of this country, and all the evidence shows they're building towards that.
02:47:19.000You know, it's amazing, Alex, how many in my former career as a high security architect, how many, when I was doing jobs in Colorado and the Denver and Aspen, Colorado area, how many times contractors say, oh, did you know about, did you help design that bunker system for that house over there?
02:48:24.000First of all, I think they're going to have enough private military contractors, thugs, to be able to do whatever people control they need to.
02:48:32.000No, no, I mean, I agree with you, but reading the Army documents, I'm sure you've seen these, but if you want them, I'll send them to you.
02:48:38.000They are training to bring in UN troops.
02:48:40.000Have you seen the deals they've signed to bring in Mexican and Canadian troops during terror attacks in the U.S.?
02:48:46.000I mean, they're openly at West Point teaching them that foreign troops are going to operate here.
02:48:51.000But we have to remember there's a difference between all the foreign troop training.
02:48:54.000A lot of that is to get information and military technology spread around to our future enemies.
02:49:35.000But I'm just saying, in all the training, I mean, it's public that they're saying they want to use NATO slash UN to help us during emergencies.
02:49:44.000So they're certain... You'll have to send me some of those because I'd like to analyze that just to see.
02:49:49.000Let's carry on that for a future discussion, Alex, when I've had a chance to see that.
02:50:17.000I'm glad to hear that he's going to be on the show.
02:50:19.000I have a quote here from Joel, and I also have a few questions for you.
02:50:23.000Joel, um, is it true that you said that I've been in a few of the Council for National Policy meetings and they're dull, there's never anything sinister going on there, there's no influential government policy being made there, that they're rather dull and that there's no conspirac- there's no conspiracillativity And that they're not secretive, even though they've refused to release any of their meetings.
02:50:45.000We gotta go to break, but we'll come back.
02:50:46.000There's a left-wing CFR-funded conspiracy theory that says some group called the CMP runs everything.
02:50:54.000And it's a total diversion, but we'll talk about it on the other side.
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02:54:20.000I'm tempted to go into overdrive with Joel Scalston, but I don't know if he can stay with us.
02:54:24.000I get these emails the last few years, you know, you're part of the CMP.
02:54:29.000You're part of a secret right-wing group more powerful than the CFR.
02:54:33.000So I went and researched it and found out the Hunt brothers were involved in stuff and it looked like a right-wing attempt to get the government back from the globalists and then it got taken over by the globalists.
02:54:44.000But then I noticed it was big foundation money and like Mother Jones and Rolling Stone We're promoting it, and that's what the White House regulations are.
02:54:58.000Cass Sunstein says we've now got the London Independent admitting.
02:55:01.000The government is infiltrating conspiracy culture and posing to then attack real people.
02:55:09.000And, you know, I hear Joel laughing during the break when I asked him about this, but here's Joel for two hours exposing the Republican takeover of the Patriot movement.
02:55:19.000And then a caller calls in and says, because I've heard it all, you know, will you tell me about the CMP and then are you part of it?
02:55:28.000Well, I was part of the original CMP starting.
02:55:32.000I was there as chairman of the Conservative National Committee, and so I have first-hand information about how it began there.
02:55:39.000I was working as executive editor of Conservative Digest under Richard Vickery, working with Howard Phillips, who's a real patriot.
02:55:49.000Frankly, we were making really headway in stopping the compromises that the Reagan administration was involved in under the influence of Vice President George Bush.
02:56:01.000And so the C&P was started, in fact, just like to blunt our movement, just like the Tea Party movement is being blunted today.
02:56:08.000You had your big-name Republicans move in and start to, like Bob Dole and Newt Gingrich and others, came in and tried to basically water down our movement, which was to have a no-compromise strategy in there.
02:56:21.000And so the CNP became, frankly, kind of a mimic of what the left was doing.
02:56:29.000But they had no conspiracies or tendencies except, and that's why they kept these things secret, because they wanted some heavy hitters in there, and they charged a whale of money, $1,000 or $2,000 a year to be a member of the CNP.
02:56:43.000They did have some secrecy, but it wasn't anything that...
02:56:47.000You know, it was conspiratorial in nature.
02:56:50.000Their basic movement was to co-opt our attempts to put some spine into the Republican Party and their resistance to the compromises of the Reagan administration.
02:56:59.000Yeah, but Joel, then there's the spin that the CMP runs the whole world now.
02:57:06.000We're sorry, your call did not go through.
02:57:09.000Will you please... Joel, you still there?
02:57:21.000It's like we have other guests on who've talked about it, because it's interesting to see how they control the right wing and the left wing.
02:57:29.000But it's like saying the CFR runs everything, when it really does have a lot of power and actually writes a lot of the laws.
02:57:34.000But they themselves are just Aaron boys that do it.
02:57:38.000You know, this interview's been really good with Joel Skousen.
02:57:41.000Maybe we should go into overdrive, guys.
02:58:03.000Okay, listen, we're going to go into overdrive, listeners, and that means it'll be internet only.
02:58:09.000That's actually not true, because the network sends out this fourth hour on satellite, because I do it occasionally live still.
02:58:14.000So, if you're a station, you'll be able to continue to listen to us, actually.
02:58:17.000I forgot that when we do overdrive now, it's actually on the birds and on the radio stations.
02:58:22.000I quit doing four hours a day a few months ago, just because I'm working on the TV show we're developing and everything else, and it was just exhausting me.
02:58:29.000But occasionally, I will do the fourth hour.
03:00:45.000But we are going to end the live transmission, come up in about 30 minutes, and it will go back into rebroadcast.
03:00:52.000In fact, I'm glad he's staying with us another 30 minutes, because I want to get into where he sees the economy going, what he thinks about a $1,500 a ounce gold, and some other questions I've got for Joel Skousen.
03:01:05.000But your line cut out when the fellow, you were trying to finish your answer, And I brought the question out about this conservative group that was trying to keep the Republican Party conservative, kind of like the Tea Party growing out of Ron Paul is today.
03:01:21.000And I know a lot of good people were in there early on, but then it became more of an establishment deal.
03:01:26.000But I've seen globalist publications try to claim that the CMP is really like the CFR.
03:01:39.000It started out with some real Goldwater-type Republicans trying to be more conservative than Reagan, but it quickly got, as I say, infiltrated by the establishment Republicans because these people had money.
03:01:51.000And anybody who's got money and can project their point of view, that establishment's really worried.
03:01:57.000So they got that infiltrated and they stopped that.
03:02:00.000It's become a very lackluster organization that really doesn't do anything except collect fees.
03:02:07.000Well, I mean, again, here you are exposing conspiracies, exposing the New World Order, and then you have a private group that meets to try to keep the Republican Party conservative, and it turns into this whole other conspiracy theory put out by the Rolling Stone, who makes fun of things like the New World Order.
03:02:30.000But regardless, I've never been part of the CMP, know almost nothing about it.
03:02:39.000Today it seems more like a vestigial thing, kind of like the Tea Party will be in 20 years if the globalists are successful at taking it over.
03:02:51.000It's just going to get watered down more and more, as the Tea Party will, with establishment Republican support of establishment Republican candidates.
03:03:08.000And boy, it was amazing to sit there with Howard Fellows and Richard Vigery and point out You know, I was kind of a novice in Washington to see who the bigwigs were, and who the infiltrators were, and it was a real education.
03:03:20.000Absolutely, and Howard Phillips has been fighting the New World Order forever.
03:03:28.000Well, you know, that's who should, I mean, if Fox News was for real, it'd be Joel Skousen, it'd be Howard Phillips, very well spoken, it'd be Ron Paul, but I think them moving with Judge Andrew Napolitano, they just know there's too high a ratings associated with, you know, with true constitutional views.
03:03:46.000I mean, look at him, within his show being two weeks old on Fox Business, it had more viewers in a weekend than all other shows combined.
03:03:55.000I mean, he should instantly have a show on Fox, but you don't see that happening.
03:04:00.000No, he's very, very credible, and that's what they don't want.
03:04:03.000They don't want credible spokesmen on our side of the spectrum.
03:04:06.000Well, then why are they letting him dominate with a once-a-week show on Fox Business?
03:04:12.000Well, he's still having to be careful.
03:04:13.000I mean, he's said some real truthful things, but you know that he hasn't got into real deep conspiracy theory and facts.
03:04:21.000Yeah, I'll just keep my mouth shut, but I've talked to him off air.
03:04:27.000He absolutely is, but I think he's been told there are limits.
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03:06:46.000If you have a 4-inch thick health chart full of all these surgeries and all these diseases, your doctor has failed you.
03:09:58.000Yes, the other day you I read an article on a JROTC program and I wanted to tell you that I was in an NJROTC program like right after 9-11.
03:10:13.000So I know exactly what you're talking about.
03:10:17.000They're turning these kids into fucking robots.
03:11:28.000Well, you know, I tried for years in the military to get the government, and I was an officer in the Marine Corps, to try to say and define what is an illegal order.
03:12:42.000You had mentioned way earlier in the show something about being a whistleblower.
03:12:48.000You guys actually touched on that at one point in time.
03:12:50.000Yeah, no, we were talking about getting whistleblowers to go forward about not just the MIAC report and other things, but government drug dealing.
03:13:00.000And Joel was saying that's why they're trying to convert over to contractors, because they found it's easier to control them and to have a nest of dark side criminals.
03:13:19.000And, you know, the problem is you sign, like, a huge stack of papers stating that, you know, you won't even breathe.
03:13:25.000You know, you're not even supposed to be able to tell your wife you actually have a clearance.
03:13:29.000I mean, you're not supposed to tell anybody.
03:13:32.000And if you even breathe, they scare you so bad, thinking that, you know, you can't say anything for 40 years or something like that, that, you know, you just You have to be really, really, really careful about even thinking about saying stuff like that.
03:13:49.000Whether it's a security clearance or a non-disclosure thing or any of that in private business or government, if something's illegal or immoral, the contracts don't count.
03:14:00.000And that goes back to the Nuremberg defensive.
03:14:54.000I mean, we've got people coming off the grassy knoll, admitting that they were working for both the CIA and Mafia and shot President Kennedy, but they were right before their death.
03:15:01.000You know, and it's very difficult to make use of that information 40 years after the fact.
03:15:09.000On a separate issue before we go back to calls, a Mexican massacre investigator found dead.
03:15:16.000The local investigator who was looking into the 72 immigrants from Central and South America who the drug cartels were killing because they didn't have money to pay them off.
03:15:27.000Arizona Sheriff says the Border Patrol is pulling out of Southern Arizona.
03:15:42.000My intel from former DEA agents and others is Los Zetas, and we said this six years ago, before it all started, was being trained by the CIA They're quote, former Mexican military.
03:15:55.000They're really been sheep dipped to attack the other four cartels to five cartels that don't pay their cuts to the big globalist banks, just like the fart gorilla are being attacked in Colombia for not laundering their money through the stock market.
03:16:10.000And that this whole thing is a destabilization program to knock out their competition, to have the border crisis be so bad that we will accept the North American Union as the SPP document state as the so-called solution.
03:16:25.000Joel Skousen, A, what is the situation in Mexico from your research?
03:17:28.000approved drug shipments that are coming across.
03:17:31.000But sometimes, because Mexico is so corrupt, the Mexican military itself is bought off by the competing people with higher money, and that's why the U.S.
03:17:40.000They don't know which Mexican troops come across the border are their own boys.
03:17:44.000Or which ones belong to the other cartels.
03:17:46.000But you're absolutely right about the last comment, that this whole thing is allowed to fester and get worse, because the solution to this Hegelian conflict will be, we have to have a joint military protected regime across the border, and it'll be part of the North American Union.
03:18:04.000I'm not sure they're going to get there, but that's where they're in.
03:18:09.000I totally agree with you, and we were able, with our sources, to predict all this before these flare-ups the last five years.
03:18:16.000And my concern is, is that it's degenerating, and Mexico's a failed state.
03:18:21.000And it's going to generate more of these desperate people, who I don't blame wanting to come here, but once they get here, they're being used as tools by the Ford Foundation, Bill and Melinda Gates.
03:18:33.000They're on record funding this whole Aslan movement.
03:18:38.000And they're funding La Raza and other radical groups as well.
03:18:41.000They want this conflict between the Mexican-Americans so that they can say, well, we need another comprehensive amnesty that will feed increased illegal immigration.
03:18:51.000All the while, of course, they won't stop the fence or build the fence, which would, in fact, stop 95% of it immediately and take all of the pressure, most of the pressure, off the border.
03:19:16.000But the reason I'm calling is to let y'all know that I did call the Labor Force Statistics Bureau because I wanted to know where they get that 9.7% of unemployment.
03:19:26.000And I told them that my husband is not eligible for unemployment.
03:19:29.000All these construction workers, you know, we're not being counted.
03:19:33.000And, uh, anyway, he told me that the, the, the, the, the statistic, the bureau paid the U.S.
03:19:38.000Census to conduct a, uh, current population survey on 60,000 households, if you can believe that.
03:20:08.000Did you know that debt settlement, bankruptcy, and attorneys will cost you about ten times more than you would legally be required to pay creditors?
03:20:16.000These are not ways to help you get out of debt.
03:21:17.000The stage is being set for the reemergence of gold as the common sense alternative to a fiat paper currency that gets weaker every day.
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03:24:44.000I mean, literally, anybody, I've got a son in the construction industry, and there's only 25% that he can find that have jobs remaining.
03:24:53.000And if it weren't for, of course, all of the stimulus money flowing out, there wouldn't be a lot of construction in the major road crews, which are pretty full right now.
03:25:03.000But you see an ongoing rotting, though.
03:25:37.000I spent this entire week's World Affairs Brief explaining to people why it's almost impossible to have hyperinflation.
03:25:45.000without the structure in the government to inject money directly into the pocketbooks of consumers, which we don't have.
03:25:51.000They did it twice now with stimulus bills of $180 billion, and it was directly inflationary.
03:25:58.000But to get to hyperinflation, you've got to have that going on every single month in increasing exponentially.
03:26:02.000But we are starting to go down that road.
03:26:04.000Well, the injection is happening in what I call the speculative economy, That's the one that are getting the injections from, and that's not particularly inflationary because there's only about a 20% overlap with the real economy.
03:26:19.000That's right, so the ultra-rich are sucking up most of this while propping up their system.
03:26:25.000They're running in the forex and the commodities and the derivatives markets and spending that money and earning 5 to 15% on it, whereas we're stuck in the real economy making 1.5% And that's why they want carbon taxes.
03:26:36.000That's why all the big banks fund those.
03:26:38.000Because it's the false economy waging war against the real economy.
03:26:42.000Jeannie, I'm sorry it's so tough on you.
03:26:45.000They want to use poverty as a tool of control.
03:26:49.000And we've got to get this economy going again.
03:26:52.000And we can only do that by cutting taxes and cutting defense spending and cutting welfare.
03:26:57.000But I'm glad to hear your husband got a job, Jeannie.
03:27:01.000Thank you, and I just want people to know in the world that people are still hurting.
03:27:56.000Joel, I never got to that, but have you seen all these Rockefeller Foundation documents where they admit they develop vaccines to sterilize people and now they're on the news promoting lithium in the water to make us submit?
03:28:58.000We're going to go to break here in a moment and come back with rebroadcasts where I was getting into the economy and a host of other issues, but I do want to spend one minute here at the end of the live transmission to tell folks that I've got a deal going until the beginning of next week, and then we're going to cut this deal off, where you can get five of the films I've made or produced or appear in For $9.95.