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00:01:58.000They have been caught funding the white supremacists.
00:02:01.000They've been caught funding every sectarian group pushing division.
00:02:07.000and war and conflict, so then the government and the media can play the part of the arbiter, the referee, the good guy.
00:02:15.000Oh, look at all the violence, look at all the sectarian violence, look at the radical Muslims, look at the low-income Kista, look at all the border problems.
00:02:24.000We've got to come in with the North American Union to fix all of these problems.
00:02:33.000Also, I wondered this morning Why, I woke up, got on the computer at about 7 a.m.
00:02:41.000and saw that the Drudge Report had linked to just a YouTube video that we'd posted, that we'd linked to, with this headline, a spy satellite used on American citizens.
00:02:53.000All Americans should have great pride.
00:02:57.000And of course we love the Drudge Report.
00:02:58.000I loved the Drudge Report many years ago before they started linking to us every week.
00:03:02.000Because I noticed that he was breaking the mold in what you could call crossover alternative mainstream media.
00:03:11.000Probably the preeminent news site, period, in the world.
00:03:14.000If you had to pick one, it's Drudge Report.
00:03:17.000And he would link to BBC and foreign publications admitting world government.
00:03:24.000And so that threw Limbaugh and Beck and Hannity for a loop to where they've had to come out and admit, okay, there is a world government, but you're still a kook if you criticize it.
00:03:34.000You know, it's a commie New World Order.
00:03:37.000It's not run by the big banks that own the Republicans and the Democrats.
00:03:40.000So I was pleased to see that new link today, and I wondered why he pulled it down, and I found out why.
00:03:47.000The video was about three and a half years old.
00:03:50.000And again, a listener just sent it to us.
00:03:51.000It's been freshly posted up on YouTube.
00:03:56.000But that spurred me to think about something even more important.
00:04:02.000We see this three-and-a-half-year-old clip from Homeland Security back in 2007 when they were announcing, oh, we're going to watch you with spy satellites to stop al-Qaeda.
00:04:12.000And then now, the reason this is back in the news, and Steve Watson, Kurt Nemo, and Paul Watson have written about it in the last few weeks, is they're saying, oh, we're using the spy satellites, and we're going to use it to watch your farms, your ranches, we're going to use it to make sure you don't build a...
00:04:29.000Shed or work shed or barn on your property under zoning they're getting rid of all the pretense that it's for shadowy Neanderthals in caves that want to drink our blood and so I'm glad we posted this but we're writing a new article to explain here.
00:04:47.000They are three years ago Saying it's for terrorism and then three and a half years later.
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00:08:49.000Okay, first thing I want to do is play this clip from three and a half years ago because I saw this when I was surfing around the web last week that had been reposted and I meant to get to it.
00:09:04.000But I want to cover this issue now before I get into...
00:09:12.000Before I get into the latest economic information, Bloomberg has the headline, Gold rallying to 1,500 as Soros bubble inflates.
00:09:23.000That is all coming up in this hour and your phone calls.
00:09:27.000But I wanted to play this clip with one of the Deputy Directors of Homeland Security three and a half years ago.
00:09:33.000Saying Americans should be proud of the fact that NSA and Pentagon satellites are being used to surveil the American people.
00:09:45.000Now, when they announced this back in 2007, there was a big uproar.
00:09:51.000And a lot of federal judges said that's completely illegal.
00:09:55.000That was the same time that the warrantless wiretapping was coming out that was illegal.
00:09:59.000And the torture was coming out that was illegal.
00:10:01.000And so they backed off and said, okay, we're not going to have local police basically federalize in the fusion centers, surveilling everyone.
00:10:10.000But they went ahead with the training and did it.
00:10:13.000This is in Greece, Australia, the UK, Canada, the US.
00:10:18.000So the issue here is, here they are three years ago, three and a half years ago, saying this is for terrorists.
00:11:20.000The Director of National Intelligence has given the go-ahead for the nation's spy satellites to be used regularly by U.S.
00:11:27.000civilian agencies and law enforcement.
00:11:30.000This is a development all Americans should have great pride in because it expands and uses national technical systems which we've built for tens of billions of dollars over many decades.
00:11:40.000Spy satellites have primarily been used overseas to monitor things like war zones and terror training camps.
00:11:46.000They've also been used domestically, but sparingly.
00:11:49.000During events including Super Bowl games, presidential inaugurals, and hurricanes.
00:11:54.000Homeland Security officials say the satellites will now be used to protect borders and critical infrastructure.
00:11:59.000Which includes ports and looking at potential vulnerabilities and threats as well as consequences of attacks.
00:12:07.000Next in line, law enforcement agencies which are expected to start using them next year.
00:12:12.000While they can provide crucial high-resolution images, there are limits to what these satellites can do.
00:12:18.000They can't see faces, And they can't listen.
00:12:21.000At least, that's what the government claims.
00:12:23.000But privacy groups worry that because there's so much we don't know about their capabilities, they could be misused.
00:12:37.000And is this a power that we would trust the executive branch to use without any outside scrutiny or oversight or control?
00:12:46.000Homeland Security officials insist that they are subject to a great amount of oversight and review, but in many ways this is just one more case of the government figuring it out as it goes in the war on terror.
00:14:31.000No one's allowed to inspect it, no one's allowed to look at it, because under the Federal Reserve Act, it's under the private bank's control.
00:14:37.000Now Ron Paul is no doubt risking his life, saying he wants an audit of Fort Knox and other gold deposits.
00:15:03.000And I'm not here trying to attack Glenn Beck.
00:15:05.000I'm just pointing out that he doesn't go one-tenth as far as he should with the amazing power that he has.
00:15:16.000Because they know that the American people have awakened.
00:15:19.000They know that Ron Paul and many others had become focal points for a huge movement to seriously challenge the left-right paradigm and the Republican and Democratic parties.
00:15:32.000The system brought in Glenn Beck and others to co-op that at that key moment.
00:15:39.000By the way, the reason I raise that, it's in my stack.
00:15:42.000I'm going to cover it after the bottom of the hour break.
00:15:45.000Ron Paul has put out an editorial that was published in major newspapers across the country, including the New York Times of all places.
00:15:54.000They went with it because they think it'll drive a wedge between Republicans and Democrats.
00:16:01.000And further the left-right paradigm, it'll actually do the opposite.
00:16:05.000And they're scared of Glenn Beck right now, bringing the Republicans into the power structure.
00:16:10.000They're back into control of the power structure.
00:16:14.000But the point is, you read Ron Paul's editorial, he explains that he's against Obama, and he's against the Republican leadership, because if you look at their voting records, not their rhetoric, look at what they do, not what they say, Government grows when Republicans are in almost as fast as it does when Obama's gotten into office.
00:16:35.000In fact, previously, government would grow even faster under Republicans than it would under Democrats, if you look at the statistics.
00:16:47.000Now under Obama, all those rules have been broken.
00:16:49.000I mean, you would imagine that it would be Democrats with their tax and spend system that would actually create the biggest deficits and things.
00:16:57.000But if you look at the averages, normally Republicans tend to get even more big government through because conservatives go to sleep.
00:17:04.000But now under Obama, with the government takeover of health care, with expanding these wars, expanding the size of the federal government, He has tripled the size of government in only a year and a half in office when George W. Bush only doubled it.
00:17:24.000You can go pull up the statistics on that.
00:17:26.000But Obama has spent more money than all presidents before him combined.
00:17:31.000That's George W. Bush back to George Washington.
00:17:35.000It's really such big numbers it's hard to even get your mind around this.
00:17:45.000Going back to the satellite issue, spy satellites used to control American citizens.
00:17:51.000Kurt Nemo did a boil-down story on this today, showing how all these mainstream publications are promoting how great it is that the environmental agencies and law enforcement agencies are now basically
00:18:13.000skipping all of the mid moves and going right to the end game, where they're just coming right out and saying, we're going to use this for everything.
00:18:22.000We're going to use this, and we're going to issue pupils, government jerseys they've got to wear, basically prisoner shirts that have RFID tracking them in real time.
00:18:33.000And yes, we're putting up microphones to track you on the street corners.
00:18:36.000And yes, we've got mobile x-ray vans that drive around x-raying your house from a distance.
00:18:42.000I mean, I knew 14 years ago, I'd seen Pentagon purchase orders for domestic helicopters with x-ray hotlines.
00:18:53.000high-powered x-ray systems mounted to them, not just infrared, but x-ray.
00:18:57.000But now it's in Forbes, telling you how great it is.
00:19:02.000And there's the health issues from this, there's the privacy issues.
00:19:06.000Yesterday, I was pretty nasty in the three hours, very negative, because it just disgusts me how bonafide and naked this tyranny is.
00:19:20.000By any measurement, by any yardstick, by any historical perspective, and it's racing in its growth.
00:19:31.000And it's our tax money doing it as we go bankrupt.
00:19:34.000And Mexico is descending into absolute hell.
00:19:38.000Every day it gets more insane and our government Won't use the spy satellites to take care of that.
00:19:45.000In fact, our government's funding many of the massacres that are going on down there.
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00:24:11.000Here's a Bloomberg headline out this morning.
00:24:14.000down down down the flames were economic news there's a bloomberg headline out this morning all the rallying the one thousand five hundred as soros's bubble inflates and every time i've seen bloomberg make a prediction like this it's come true And it isn't that gold is really going up.
00:24:38.000It's that paper currencies worldwide are being devalued basically in concert.
00:24:46.000Investors are accumulating enough bullion to fill Switzerland's vaults twice over as gold's most Accurate forecasters say the longest rally in at least nine decades has further to go no matter what the economy holds.
00:25:04.000Analysts raise their 2011 forecast more than for any other precious metal In the past two months, predicting a 10th annual advance, data compiled by Bloomberg shows the most widely held option of gold futures traded in New York for 1,500 an ounce by December.
00:25:32.000The most widely held option, this is what the market's betting on, on gold futures traded in New York is for $1,500 an ounce by December, or an 18% more than the record $1,266.50.
00:25:56.000And it's a market fundamental that as the Federal Reserve announces quantitative easing and a move towards global SDRs, another layer of digital cashless currency amongst the banks, another layer of digital cashless currency amongst the banks, based on carbon taxes, based on carbon credits, backed up by faltering currencies.
00:26:23.000and And as governments start monetizing their debt, when the Treasury issues bonds, and governments and institutions and individuals don't buy all of them, or in some cases even half of them, the Federal Reserve comes in and creates more currency to buy its own debt.
00:26:47.000And so to put this in layman's terms, because I'm a layman myself, I've been studying it for a long time, but all the technical terms, You know, sometimes even escape me, though I try to understand it.
00:28:06.000Gold rallying to 1,500 as Soros bubble inflates.
00:28:11.000And every time I talk about gold, I get emails.
00:28:14.000Every time I talk about the stock market saying, well, I'm not in gold, so I don't care.
00:28:18.000Or I'm not in the stock market, so I don't care.
00:28:21.000Well, almost every major corporation and company in this country That produces jobs and pays taxes and pays for the infrastructure is in the stock market.
00:28:34.000And that's how they're funding themselves.
00:28:37.000And the big canary in the coal mine, there's many unemployment numbers, housing starts, inflation numbers, those are always important.
00:28:48.000But the real canary in the coal mine is always gold.
00:28:57.000And the fact that the majority, or in their words, the most widely held, the most popular option on gold futures traded in New York is $1,500 an ounce by December.
00:29:17.000So we're talking about three months from now.
00:29:23.000It's the end of August, September, October, November.
00:29:25.000Three months from now, three months and one day, technically, will be end of the month of December.
00:29:32.000And Wall Street, who it's all an insider game, is saying it's going to be $1,500 an ounce.
00:29:40.000So we'll continue to discuss the economy on the other side.
00:29:44.000Then I'm going to get into the carbon taxing crowd.
00:29:51.000We're on the march, the empire's on the run.
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00:33:23.000I did hours of research Sunday night, hours of research Monday morning.
00:33:30.000About 30 minutes of scanning back over the news before I went live yesterday and then I got so upset and so overwhelmed by everything that yesterday overall I was pretty negative and defeatist and angry.
00:33:47.000You know that feeling of almost like being dirty?
00:33:53.000Like, I don't mean dirty sexually, Or dirty like mud on your hands or mud on your feet.
00:34:02.000I mean cloudy like you have ashes in your mouth.
00:34:11.000I get angry and disgusted and it's like a dark cloud is hanging over my head and I'm like, why are public schools nationwide all over the country?
00:34:25.000Making children wear RFID tracker chips?
00:34:28.000Why is the government taking baby's blood secretly at birth and lying about it?
00:34:33.000Why are they scanning our naked bodies at airports and saving it?
00:34:37.000Why does the CIA admit that they've put out fake Bin Laden videos and there's no congressional investigation?
00:34:47.000Why are they putting naked body scanners in mobile trucks and federal and state courthouses?
00:34:52.000Why have foreign offshore banks stolen over $28 trillion, according to Bloomberg, in the first year since the banker bailout?
00:35:03.000Oh yeah, we haven't gotten new numbers in about eight months.
00:35:26.000I can't believe that we're in this much tyranny and that it's accelerating this fast.
00:35:33.000I see where it's going and every day I say on the broadcast, because this is all I think about, I look at my innocent children, little bitty sweet children, and how good they are and how full of
00:35:46.000Creativity and love and curiosity they are and I think about how corrupt this world is and it just makes me so angry and so disgusted that I can't even describe it.
00:36:24.000Sometimes I screw around and joke around and it's kind of good to get into that mindset sometimes so I'm not so stressed out.
00:36:34.000And all work and no play will make anybody dull.
00:36:39.000But at the same time, when I do screw around or get in a good mood, I feel guilty later, because I realize how much trouble, as a society, we're really in.
00:36:48.000I mean, the globalists, in their own records, that we've linked to and reported on, say they want to destroy our economy by design.
00:37:21.000And if we don't wake up to that, and realize that we have a global corporate tyranny dominating our nation, and almost every other nation on Earth, and if we don't become more sophisticated and realize their systems of control, 99% of us are gonna be adversely affected by the changes happening in the world.
00:37:41.000So many of you who are compartmentalized need to wake up and realize that you are under attack.
00:37:48.000I mean, here's an example, and then I'm getting back into the economy, but here's an example.
00:37:57.000Just yesterday, We had had articles written at Infowars.com repeatedly.
00:38:16.000And when I talk about this, I don't want to just come on air and talk about it and then have it just be some background chatter.
00:38:23.000I mean, I listen to rebroadcast of my show sometimes and Sometimes it's very fluent, it's very clear, it's very eloquent, it's filled with truth and charisma, and other times I'm sitting there barking out, kind of just chirping out statistics and numbers and incredible facts and truth, but still I don't pause to illustrate just how massive the news and information is.
00:38:56.000And I don't feel worthy to even be bringing you this information.
00:39:05.000And I don't think the average bureaucrat or media minion who goes along with all of this fully understands just how murderous the globalists are and how dangerous this situation is.
00:39:17.000Tyranny is not fun, and it ends in mass murder and death.
00:39:28.000but World War II conservatively killed about 64 million people on all sides.
00:39:36.000And our government brags that they put Pol Pot into power, who killed 30% of Cambodia's population conservatively.
00:39:45.000Mao Tse-Tung, who the Chinese say killed 84 million, 85 million, the U.S.
00:39:58.000The globalists like to wipe out large groups of people to reorganize society, to secure their ill-gotten gains, and they're getting ready to pull similar things here in the United States.
00:40:09.000This depression is only the beginning.
00:40:12.000And that isn't what I think, that's what I know.
00:40:17.000That's not my opinion, that's the historical fact.
00:40:26.000But I thought about those articles last week.
00:40:30.000Out of the hundreds of books I've read and Aaron Dykes has read, out of the hundreds and hundreds of white papers we've read, out of the hundreds of articles that Kurt Nimmo, Paul Watson, Steve Watson, Aaron Dykes and myself and other Writers for InfoWars have written over the years.
00:40:46.000I didn't even know that for more than 20 years, the Rockefeller Foundation had released hundreds and hundreds of different documents bragging how they developed the tetanus vaccine with the female hormone added to sterilize women.
00:41:03.000I knew about the UN program when they got caught doing it in the 90s.
00:41:14.000They're proud of it, with even more stuff they're putting in the vaccines.
00:41:18.000I mean, we have them red-handed, and then I get disgusted with myself, laying in bed last night at midnight, thinking, you've had those documents for a week, you've posted a couple articles about it.
00:41:32.000Last night, I was late to my grandmother's 85th birthday party, We had one Sunday and Monday.
00:42:01.000I don't care about being well-known in the media.
00:42:04.000I don't have all these petty rivalries and things.
00:42:07.000I mean, we all do to a certain extent, but those areas in me, my ego is dissipating.
00:42:14.000I actually kind of need my ego, we all do, to propel ourselves forward, and I'm losing it.
00:42:23.000Because the reality of my food, my water...
00:42:30.000The vaccines being poisoned and having all the proof.
00:42:35.000The proof they're drugging the water and food.
00:42:37.000The proof they're adding bioweapons to the vaccines.
00:42:41.000The proof they're designing pharmacological crops and pharmacological chimera fish and pigs and other meat products designed to brain damage us, give us cancer and sterilize us.
00:42:54.000I mean, it doesn't get any more heavy than that.
00:42:57.000Have you seen the end of the famous 1950's Body Snatchers.
00:43:02.000Guys, pull up the end of Body Snatchers.
00:43:07.000The end of the original Body Snatchers.
00:45:42.000They're openly announcing the global government, the new global digital currency, the Bancor, that everything else is going to be based on.
00:45:58.000When it's in the mainstream news, and the Drudge Report's even linking to it, and you guys are still running around denying it, because you spent years saying it didn't exist.
00:46:07.000We don't have time to screw around anymore.
00:46:12.000I want Glenn Beck to talk about what's in the vaccines.
00:46:15.000I want him to talk about the naked body scanners.
00:46:18.000I want him to tell his audience to do more than just vote for Republicans.
00:46:23.000Look, I just want my country and humanity back.
00:46:28.000I mean, look at this Bloomberg headline.
00:46:29.000Gold rallying to $1,500 in Soros bubble inflates.
00:46:33.000And it goes on to say that the most widely held options on gold futures traded in New York are $1,500 an ounce or 18% higher by December, three months from now.
00:46:52.000They go on to say either a swift economic recovery or a further dismal economic performance should bring new buyers into the market, said Eugene Weinberg, an analyst with Commons Bank AG Frankfurt.
00:47:05.000Who was the most accurate forecaster in the first quarter and expects the medal to rise as high as 1,400 next year.
00:47:15.000He says a stronger economy would create more of a jewelry demand.
00:47:18.000If the economy stays weak or gets worse, then investors will be looking for a safe haven.
00:47:22.000And they go through either way you slice it.
00:47:25.000But I'm going to shut up and bring Ted Anderson up, then I'm going to get into Ron Paul questions whether there's gold at Fort Knox and the New York Fed.
00:48:46.000But you were talking about, yeah, the jewelry for India alone is going to go up from 400 tons last year, 480.
00:48:54.000This year, they're expecting to see it at about 625.
00:48:56.000I mean, the demand for gold is going up.
00:48:59.000Like you said, Soros, you know, just last January, Soros was a seller in gold, calling gold one of the The asset bubbles of all time and now he's a buyer.
00:49:14.000There's so much going on in the marketplace right now.
00:49:17.000You're talking about the government knowing that we're running into a crisis.
00:49:22.000Not only do they know that we're running into a crisis, they published a document on July 27th that says that they're expecting a crisis to the magnitude of what occurred in Argentina in Brazil, just recently in Greece, they're pinning us to that, too.
00:49:41.000Hey, Ted, your microphone's cutting out there.
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00:54:09.000The rail against the crown Okay, ladies and gentlemen, so you see all this media hype demonizing gold I've been watching it for eight nine years as it went from 260 bucks an ounce to 1260 something and now the most widely held future option for the month of December is $1,500 an ounce so That's how the insiders are betting on
00:55:43.000I don't know why he was so influenced in the beginning of this year to tell people to get out of gold and that it was over-inflated, but he's reversed his position 180 degrees, and he's buying it himself.
00:55:57.000And he's expecting gold to hit $1,500 an ounce.
00:56:02.000I mean, the lowest prediction in that article that Drudge is pointing toward over at Bloomberg is $1,350 an ounce, and that's $100 higher from where we are at right now.
00:56:11.000Yeah, I mean, why wouldn't people buy gold coins that you have massively discounted, that you bought back when gold was $60, $70 lower a month ago?
00:56:21.000Why wouldn't they then get all those savings passed forward And then have all of this upside if they were getting it for an investment.
00:56:29.000I get gold and silver as an emergency backup because I know the history of Germany and Zimbabwe and Europe and this country with devaluations of currency and I know that it's a great hedge against economic uncertainty and that's why Bloomberg says most people are getting into it.
00:56:48.000And then I've got all this other news.
00:56:50.000Ron Paul Questions whether there's gold at Fort Knox, New York, and the Fed.
00:57:34.000That's why it's there in the first place.
00:57:35.000For any Americans that think that government isn't tyrannical, Roosevelt said, give me all your gold, I'm going to give you paperback, and a year later basically doubled the price of an ounce, and it turned out that the Firestone family and others had set up secret purchasing arms in Europe just trying to buy their own gold back, and they got prosecuted.
00:58:35.000I'll tell you what, Ted, I got Joel Scalzin coming up at the 5 after, but I'm gonna go over some other economic news with you in one moment.
01:00:41.000We're going to cover a lot of topics with Joel and take calls interspersed throughout the extended interview with him coming up.
01:00:49.000Also, we're going to be talking about control of food supply to be handed over to Department of Homeland Security.
01:00:56.000And this is directly out of S-510, deceptively titled the Food Safety and Modernization Act.
01:01:03.000I'm going to be talking more about that.
01:01:04.000But getting back into financial news, this is Bloomberg talking to top analysts.
01:01:10.000They say the most accurate analyst predicts that it's going to be $1,400 an ounce by the end of this year.
01:01:17.000But the most widely held future option on gold is $1,500 by December, or an 18% increase.
01:01:25.000And they go on to admit this is because the federal government has announced that they're going to allow the private federal reserve to start monetizing the debt.
01:01:34.000That's what happened in Weimar Republic, Germany.
01:02:23.000And currently, this is what you need to go out and basically buy a small meal.
01:02:29.000So if you want to go into one of their restaurants and have a bowl of rice and maybe some beef stew and a glass of Pepsi, you need... Is that $50 trillion or $500 trillion?
01:03:01.000They inflate the money to buy real assets while they're in control, then they leave you holding the bag and tell you with tax money you've got to pay all this off.
01:03:10.000Just like Obama has spent more than all presidents before him combined, As bad as George W. Bush was, as you go towards the end of this, it accelerates.
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01:09:47.000That from the original Body Snatcher back in the 1950s.
01:09:51.000And no, we're not saying aliens are real or pod people are coming to get us.
01:09:58.000But that's the feeling I have a lot when I'm reading a Rockefeller Foundation document about how they did develop vaccines where it's a tetanus pathogen with a female hormone added to it to sterilize the woman from 1968.
01:10:15.000And we link to those at Infowars.com on the Rockefeller Foundation website.
01:10:23.000And then I've got mainstream news articles from the 90s where the UN was caught sterilizing women with these vaccines.
01:10:31.000And then I get John P. Holdren's book, The White House Science Czar, about drugging the water supply.
01:10:38.000And then we discover they're already testing it.
01:10:41.000And you tell people this and it sounds crazy.
01:10:44.000Just like 15 years ago when I got secret documents from a nurse that all children at birth had their blood taken for a secret eugenics database.
01:10:54.000That's now declassified last two years.
01:10:57.000There is a giant secret overarching program run by what the establishment calls the scientific dictatorship.
01:11:08.000The final revolution to end the family, to remake man in an image of their choosing.
01:11:16.000Now, I got a lot of subjects I want to discuss in the next hour and 50 minutes with Joel Skelson.
01:11:30.000It had been many years since he'd been on when I had him on last week, and I wanted to have him on for an extended interview to cover a bunch of issues quickly, to get his take, his view, because it's thought-provoking and insightful, on a host of issues, and also take your comments or questions at 1-800-259-9231.
01:11:52.000And so he was on with us a few weeks ago.
01:11:57.000And, of course, he is the editor of World Affairs Brief.
01:12:01.000He, of course, is the nephew of Cleon Skousen, who wrote two best-selling books exposing the whole globalist system, the whole New World Order system.
01:12:09.000That was really a seminal work that led to None Dare Call a Conspiracy and many others.
01:12:14.000He's of course served as a fighter pilot for the U.S.
01:12:17.000Marine Corps during Vietnam and of course has also been a writer and researcher speaking widely around the United States and the world, very accurately exposing the globalist agenda and worldaffairsbrief.com is his website and he joins us now.
01:12:37.000I must say I was surprised at the overwhelming response.
01:12:42.000I was getting a World Affairs brief after our interview.
01:12:45.000It just seems like people are hungry to make sense of some of the contradictions that are out there.
01:12:50.000There's just an awful lot of disinformation and a lot of problem information floating on the web, and people listen, I think, to your show to get some understanding about that.
01:13:01.000Well we have a wide spectrum of guests and ideas here but at the end of the day we've been pretty accurate about forecasting where society is going and I concur with much of your analysis and breakdown of society.
01:13:14.000I want to move through a lot of news with you today but last time you were on We ran out of time getting into one section of the World Affairs Brief you did a month or two ago dealing with the dark side of law enforcement and the military and how Iraq and Afghanistan were being used as laboratories to find people that will do bad things.
01:13:36.000The majority of our military and police are great people.
01:14:03.000But for every 10 good officers, they find that sociopath, that psychopath, that control freak who's attracted to power, and they recruit them.
01:14:15.000And I've been aware of this for my own research, and also studying other authoritarian systems like the Nazis and others, and the communists.
01:14:22.000But you say you've got a lot of sources and have done some of your own research on it.
01:14:27.000So I'd like you to spend the balance of this segment on that.
01:14:29.000Then we'll spend a segment on whatever issue you think is most important.
01:14:33.000And then I've got a bunch of questions I want to throw at you on a laundry list of issues.
01:14:50.000And as I point out, you know, whenever a shill for the government puts out a supposed expose about government, it's a cover, it's a diversion.
01:14:59.000Because what they will reveal will be enticing, will be interesting, and they do drop a few secrets here and there, nothing harmful to the system.
01:15:07.000But what was totally missing from this whole Eight-part series on Top Secret America with anything of substance about what is being done in secret.
01:15:16.000The difference between what I call the white side of government and the black side.
01:15:21.000And increasingly, what's been happening in the United States is the black side has been growing by leaps and bounds.
01:15:30.000Just to recap for your listeners, in every law enforcement agency of the United States federal government, whether it is the DEA, the CIA, the FBI, the INS, ICE, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, There are good guys, white side people, the type of people that you were mentioning and talking about, the type of people we expect to be in there.
01:15:52.000And they still recruit for that side, specifically.
01:15:55.000They like to recruit a lot of Mormons, for example, who have been returned missionaries, clean cut.
01:16:00.000They make good, naive government supporters.
01:16:03.000They come into the CIA and the FBI and they make good believers because they're taught religiously to support their government and to support law and order.
01:16:11.000But you know, that could be a fault when you refuse to see what you see and what happens in government.
01:16:18.000And so there's an increasingly active dark side of every organization.
01:16:23.000I'm convinced now, Alex, that the dark side of government, because of the increase in the use of private military contractors to breed and cull out and to recruit unprincipled people, Has grown to be larger than the white side on every one of these organizations now.
01:16:44.000They're bigger than the white side now.
01:16:46.000And it's becoming increasingly difficult to hide the activity of the dark side.
01:16:51.000Now that's one of the reasons why I think Top Secret America was written.
01:16:54.000Was to hide behind the excuse of overgrowth, overcomplexity, over 2,000 private military contractors dealing with hundreds of federal agencies, some of them with no names that we don't understand that are hidden behind multiple layers of the government.
01:17:13.000But I'm convinced this whole thing is a charade to make sure that people have an excuse to be able to write this off as, well, we can't understand it, it's just too complex now.
01:17:23.000And that was the purpose of the Washington Post article.
01:17:27.000Well, they say 854,000 spies, but if you look at InfraGard, The clergy response teams, the Protestants, the Catholics, the Mormons, the Rabbis, they have all, as part of a nine-year-old program now, been infiltrated and taught, when the martial law comes, tell them go to the FEMA camps.
01:17:50.000I mean, this is in the documents that we got three years before it was mainstream news.
01:17:55.000Then they had mainstream newscasts with preachers going, yes, during martial law, the enemy of the government is the people, not the people are the government.
01:18:02.000And the government serves them in the Bill of Rights and Constitution.
01:18:06.000And so there is this giant complex of control.
01:18:09.000And even though a lot of it's been secret...
01:18:12.000We've gotten a lot of the different pieces of it from good people inside government, and then later the establishment comes out and kind of hides it in plain view and puts their own spin on it.
01:18:34.000as spies, and then you look at the architecture, Joel, the whole thing is pointed at gun owners, conservatives, libertarians, returning veterans, as the MIAC and Homeland Security reports show.
01:18:47.000None of it is pointed, except for PR purposes on the surface, at Muslims, at alciatus.
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01:25:11.000So 90% leave disgusted, but they find the 10% that either like the tyranny or are gullible.
01:25:20.000But as you said, just like it took them decades to make the dark side as big or bigger than the light side, now they're trying to take over any area of influence and convert it to the dark side.
01:25:37.000Well, this is awfully hard to document because as I say, there's a great deal of...
01:25:44.000Signing documents saying that you won't reveal anything about what you're shown at these presentations.
01:25:48.000It's very difficult to get people to talk.
01:25:50.000I can tell you that psychologically, they're really playing up in Christianity by making it a beleaguered profession, or a beleaguered religion, so that they induce people to want to get the protection of government.
01:26:05.000That's how they've duped in an awful lot of what used to be very, very conservative Religious people, whether it was, you know, Falwell or Dobson or many of those other people, got them to buy into supporting the Republican establishment, even though they were being betrayed by the Republican establishment during the Bush era.
01:26:24.000That elicitation of the concept that you can be mainstream, you can be protected, we won't criticize you, we'll give you good press, we'll make sure that good articles are written on you in Time and Newsweek.
01:26:39.000And believe me, a lot of those people, because the R2 side, as you know, Alex, has very, very limited funding.
01:26:51.000Everybody's looking out for, and they find out when you take a hard-line stand that your funding kind of drives up, and that's one of the reasons why I'm really skeptical of what happens to the Tea Party when you have big dollar people come in and start to finance things within the Tea Parties.
01:27:34.000The story about cars threatening to throw out private military contractors within four months in Afghanistan, I can guarantee you, will not happen.
01:27:44.000Whether or not he's even being sincere in saying this, I'm not sure.
01:27:48.000Because he may be doing it to protect his own survival within Afghanistan, which is growing in hatred against the sabotage of private military contractors.
01:27:59.000He even mentioned on one of the news shows that they've been involved in terrorism.
01:28:03.000And that's, they're basically acting as a cover for the dark side of those CIA activities who do control their own set of terrorists for conflict creation.
01:28:12.000And the private military contractors are increasingly taking those roles.
01:28:16.000Because when they use military people to do it, they have too many whistleblowers.
01:28:26.000Contractors staging their own terror attacks.
01:28:29.000They've caught British SAS operating as contractors and others dressed up as Muslims attacking our installations.
01:28:37.000And that's the reports that come out again and again and again.
01:28:41.000If you've got a trillion-dollar-a-year global war machine, of course it's going to create the enemy, and if it has to, stage its own attacks as a pretext to continue that war of global domination.
01:28:56.000Well, it's what we've talked about in our last interview.
01:28:58.000I think the motive is not simply the industrial-military complex in gaining more riches and making people richer.
01:29:05.000That's always an inducement, to be sure, but it's not the main goal.
01:29:09.000I think the main goal is to create constant warfare for the purpose of rearranging the chess pieces on the World Chess Board of governments and working towards a new world order government.
01:29:22.000We mustn't lose sight of the fact that these more ethereal goals about creating conflict for the purpose of even larger wars and rearranging governments on the face of the world is what they're really after.
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01:33:27.000Okay, I got a lot of questions I want to throw at Joel Skousen just to get his view on the Mosque situation at Ground Zero.
01:33:35.000The Bloomberg saying that most analysts agree that gold's going to be $1,500.
01:33:41.000I mean, I know what their endgame is, but I want to get his perspective on that.
01:33:44.000I mean, I've got it right here from the UN.
01:33:46.000like what are they getting the chessboard ready for if the globalists could have everything they wanted now what type of world would they build from his research what is their end game i mean i know what their end game is but i want to get his perspective on that i mean i've got it right here from the un it's global population reduction and the end of humanity as we know it a
01:34:09.000A total control freak wonderland where you've got basically a genetically engineered suboid servant class serving the global controllers.
01:34:22.000But we'll get Joel Skousen's take on that.
01:34:24.000And yeah, it sounds like science fiction.
01:34:26.000It's the 21st century, ladies and gentlemen.
01:34:28.000This has been their plan for at least a hundred years.
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01:36:51.000Okay, going back to Joel Skousen, great analyst and researcher.
01:36:56.000Finish up with the point you were making before the break and then Whatever you think is most important today, then I want to take some phone calls, and when we start the next hour, I'll continue with calls, but I've got a laundry list of questions that I want to go over with you today, Joel Skousen.
01:37:16.000But what is most concerning you right now?
01:37:19.000What do you think is most important right now?
01:37:22.000It sounds like, going to break, you were hinting the co-opting of the Tea Party, which we know was founded by the Ron Paul movement,
01:37:30.000He wrote an editorial that was published yesterday, it's up on Infowars.com, saying that the Republicans are controlled by the very same globalists, where they have better rhetoric, they are the same people, and basically warning that Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck are bad news, and that they're not really giving people the truth.
01:37:56.000But Joel Skousen, what do you think is most important?
01:37:59.000Before I go into some of those big picture items, and it's very true, the co-opting of the resistance movement is the most important criteria for them right now.
01:38:10.000And I'll explain, I think, how they're doing that.
01:38:12.000But before we leave the secret America thing, I really want to take a few minutes to give some very good specifics to your audience about how they recruit people, how they operate within the dark side, how they get people to cross over from the white side to the dark side.
01:38:27.000Because I think this is fascinating to people, and they need to understand this when their children go into the military, or when they naively go into work for the FBI, or the CIA, or the DEA, how this process happens.
01:38:41.000Oftentimes we stay too general, and I want to give some specifics before we go on.
01:38:45.000I once had a friend of mine who happened to be a Mormon.
01:38:48.000A lot of Mormons are recruited into the CIA and the FBI because they've got that clean-cut image, and they are very pro-American.
01:38:57.000Well, he got assigned overseas because a lot of Mormon returned missionaries have these language skills.
01:39:02.000They speak all the languages of the world, and that's why they're very anxious to get him into the CIA.
01:39:09.000So he got assigned overseas, and he was at a hotel one night, and he got a knock on the door, and there was a very good-looking woman, and she was there to offer her services.
01:39:19.000And he said, no, no, you know, I don't do that kind of thing.
01:40:09.000And then we see skull and bones that founded CIA, homosexual type activity.
01:40:15.000And at Bohemian Grove, Nixon wouldn't partake.
01:40:17.000But he told Harper's Magazine that basically to get involved in California politics, you got to go in there and have gay sex.
01:40:26.000And so if he would have had sex with that Number 10 hooker, and I've never been in an intelligence agency, but I've had them send beautiful hookers at me.
01:41:01.000Yeah, what I'm trying to get at is that there are ways in which, and there's a corruption is always the issue, that you've got to make sure that you're morally corruptible, because they do not want, they like to have people who have a clean-cut appearance who can fool other people, but they want to make sure that they're corruptible, and that's why in the military, A lot of the CIA, now, recruiters are military officers.
01:41:25.000They're basically taken aside by the CIA to say, hey, you've done really well, we want you to recruit for us.
01:41:30.000They don't even have to be corrupt themselves, but they usually are.
01:41:35.000But generally speaking, they're meant to look out and talk how to psychologically profile people that they want to bring in undercover under the CIA.
01:41:43.000That's how Timothy Corbett got recruited.
01:41:46.000It's very interesting that Timothy Corbett will tell the specific incident.
01:41:50.000That he was in the military, he was really doing well, he had a lot of good reports, he was very people's oriented, he had a good leadership report.
01:41:58.000He got recruited into the CIA by one of his officers.
01:42:02.000And what they do, it's just like CIA sheep-dipping people or calling them out of the service.
01:42:07.000They go to work for someone in the private sector.
01:42:10.000And in this case, but they're always missing for about a year or two.
01:42:16.000He had no contact with his family for over a year.
01:42:19.000And when he finally surfaced to show up to take a job at various private security companies, the CIA has a lot of operators that deal with private security companies like Wackenthal and others that are essentially CIA fronts.
01:42:34.000That's how they get their agents and work their deals in the prison.
01:42:37.000That's how they put the screws on people in prison because they can essentially, you know, get things done through these private agencies.
01:42:47.000He went to, and all of a sudden his modus operandi changed.
01:42:52.000His report said that he couldn't be trusted to deal with other people.
01:43:09.000Now that's at complete variance to what his record was in the military before he was recruited out.
01:43:16.000Now, some people suspect that during this two-year period be people that are being trained to do a suicide attack or something like he did at Oklahoma City bombing, gone to some form of drug therapy, mind control, and other things.
01:43:32.000Now, as I've studied the mind control issue, Alex, I don't believe they could take normal people and change them against their will.
01:43:40.000But they can take corruptible people under the influence of drugs and severe hostile-type training and destabilize them to the point where they make them extremely subjective to hypnosis and to demands of leadership and control.
01:43:54.000Well, sure, but we know that Jolly and West, the number two mind-control doctor under Ewing Cameron, who was even in the MKUltra congressional hearings, was with him from the time he was arrested until the time he was executed.
01:44:08.000and And nobody in the mainstream media said, why is a top mind control doctor, McVeigh's psychiatrist?
01:44:19.000I mean, I'm not a cop who's an expert on somebody on drugs, but you can look at somebody when their eyes are glassy and they're clearly on drugs.
01:44:27.000I mean, McVeigh in those 60 minute interviews looked like a drug head.
01:44:31.000Versus people that were near him in the jails.
01:44:47.000Of course, Terry Nichols has now signed a sworn affidavit that McVeigh said he was being set up.
01:44:52.000So instead of just mind control, clearly mind control and drugged, so he's incoherent once they've caught him.
01:44:58.000But he thought He was part of a larger operation to set up the white supremacist Southern Poverty Law Center run, it came out in federal documents, and that he was being set up.
01:45:09.000And clearly he was then finally set up.
01:45:12.000So it's kind of like Lee Harvey Oswald, who we now know was admitted CIA.
01:45:26.000He surfaced only once, and that was to fulfill an appointment with a psychiatrist to set up his bona fide, someone who had mental problems, which provided his defense.
01:45:37.000And he was World Vision, and so was the guy that shot, of course, the famous Beatle, John Lennon.
01:46:00.000Jack Anderson came home as a Mormon missionary, disappeared for two years, surfaced in China, of all places.
01:46:08.000Didn't speak Chinese, but surfaced in China, had undergone language training, and then suddenly came out and went into the journalistic world working for Drew Pearson.
01:46:17.000Well, the guy was never active as a Mormon again.
01:46:19.000He had lost his principles, he was immoral, he had all these, you know, bad habits, but You know, how do you just disappear, come out of China, and then go work for Drew Pearson in a major Washington Marigold scenario?
01:46:35.000It's very interesting that later on in his life, he kind of had a bout of repentance that he told Howard Ruff.
01:46:42.000Started to, you know, get to him about, you know, I've got to change.
01:46:45.000I've been on the black side for so many years.
01:46:50.000And, uh, kind of had a mea culpa moment.
01:46:53.000And, uh, unfortunately he never got out, even though he tried to turn around and tried to leave the dark side.
01:46:59.000Uh, he was, he never told tales about how he got to where he was and, uh, who was controlling him during the period.
01:47:08.000Who was feeding him information from the left when he was sabotaging.
01:47:12.000Anastasios Samosa, Nicaragua, and doing the hatchet job that people like, you know, these special reporters that work for the CIA do, as Drew Pearson used to do.
01:47:22.000He did a hatchet job on General Patton.
01:47:24.000He was the one who revealed the slapping incident.
01:47:27.000Come to find out, of course, Paul S. Allen, his partner in Washington-Maryland, used to be on the staff of General Patton.
01:47:35.000And he is suspected of having leaked the information to Pearson.
01:47:38.000And that's how John Paulus Allen got into league with Pearson later on after Patton was killed.
01:47:46.000They did a hatchet job on Forrestall, the Admiral who, like MacArthur, tried to have a strong defense against Truman's sabotage.
01:47:56.000Forrestall ended up being thrown out of a window at Bethesda Naval Hospital and ruled a suicide.
01:48:03.000Stuff in this government is just incredible.
01:48:06.000What we know is just the tip of the iceberg.
01:48:09.000And now we know it's a giant submerged iceberg, and I agree with you that they've converted more than half of the people in these private and public bureaucracies into the dark side where they're compromised.
01:48:23.000And that's why I speak to them so often on air.
01:48:26.000And I point out, look, you're going to be destroyed at the end of this And in every case in history, when these tyrannies fully come to power, which the system's attempting to do right now, the first group they wipe out are the people that brought them to power, because you know where the bodies are buried, and you understand how to overthrow them, and so you are in more danger than somebody who's on the light side, who's actually fighting the dark side.
01:48:54.000But once you've ever taken anything from the dark side, they then see it that they Own you.
01:49:00.000It's almost like a spiritual principle.
01:49:04.000And I've seen more and more historians talk about this.
01:49:30.000They are disposable and I really, if any of those people are listening, I mean there's hundreds of people out there who are demolition experts that put charges in the World Trade Center.
01:49:38.000There are hundreds and thousands of people who worked on underground military bases and other special prison camps that built these facilities.
01:49:45.000And believe me, it's amazing how well they keep the secret of what they're doing.
01:49:51.000And the underground bunker system that was built there, and literally they had hundreds and hundreds of workers building this very interesting underground bunker system, and the word simply did not leak out.
01:50:02.000It was just incredible how they did it.
01:50:03.000But we need whistleblowers to come forward.
01:50:06.000That's the reason, Alex, that they've gone to private military contractors rather than people in the military.
01:50:12.000They did it all through the 80s, trying to Swear military people to secrecy, people who flew drugs in their helicopters down to South America during the Iran-Contra thing, who flew it back to Maine, Arkansas.
01:50:24.000One of them having an open mic when Bill Clinton was on board and talking about how much money he was getting from, you know, the Arkansas Bond Fund and his relationship with the PIA.
01:50:36.000And he had an open mic, didn't realize the pilots were hearing it.
01:50:39.000And of course the pilots had to be threatened to death to keep the secret.
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01:54:02.000Joel Scouser and World Affairs Brief is our guest, and we're going to be going to your phone calls here.
01:54:10.000I've got a bunch of other questions that I want to get Joel's expert take on, but I do before he leaves us, so remind me if I forget Joel sometime in the next hour.
01:54:20.000Let's get back into your ideas of how to get contractors or government people to safely be able to blow the whistle because they can have them sign agreements or whatever there's no nuremberg defense of just following orders as you know
01:54:39.000but they're fully aware of the fact that they're under surveillance and they've got watchers watching the watchers and that's why they spend what 500 600 700 billion on budget for black ops a year a trillion plus on defense uh A lot of it is economic saboteurs, spying on other corporations, then giving it to the Chinese.
01:55:23.000I think whatever religion or belief, we all need to pray every day for you, and our country, and the world, and even pray for our enemies, because by praying for our enemies, we might dump, it says in the Bible, like hot coals on our head, and I believe they believe in a spirit world, and I believe there's power in prayer, and I believe for every demon there's two angels, and I also believe
01:55:53.000that we shouldn't fear 'em 'cause it keeps us kinda in a lower state.
01:55:59.000And I also believe that people should go to town meetings and fight for clean water and rights to be able to have a yard sale or build a shed or whatever.
01:56:12.000And I believe that we should contact store manufacturers and stuff and tell 'em to get good food on the shelves Well, Jason, I appreciate your call.
01:56:23.000I want to get Joel's take on that, but you just raised a bunch of issues.
01:57:21.000I pray Most precipitously to try to get good people to wake up and to be able to see wolves in sheep's clothing.
01:57:29.000But, uh, I don't think we can simply pray prayer.
01:57:32.000Then we have to pray in an inspired manner.
01:57:34.000We have to listen to the will of the Lord about what's appropriate to pray for and be guided by that.
01:57:40.000Joel, how do you deal with it psychologically or spiritually?
01:57:44.000Because one philosopher said, when you stare into the abyss, be careful you don't become the abyss, or someone else said, I forget who, that when you dance with the devil, the devil doesn't change, he changes you.
01:57:55.000Just studying this every day and learning about the enemy and learning about their mind, I've gotten to the point, I've always been disgusted by it, but now, It just gets worse and worse.
01:58:07.000As I learn how they operate and what they think and get inside their heads and can see what they're seeing, think what they're thinking, it really, really gets to me.
02:01:02.000And I'm sick of how outrageous it's gotten.
02:01:04.000And I know the globalists are trying to break our spirit, break our will, sell us on accepting anything and everything evil, making us capitulate.
02:01:16.000Breaking our spirit, I guess, is the word.
02:01:19.000But, Joel, finish up your comment on that.
02:01:21.000Well, you know, I fought this same battle for many, many years and I finally got a handle on it.
02:01:26.000I used to be very, very depressed because not only was I discovering more and more evil and more and more collusion between government and judges, everybody.
02:02:25.000Most of your listeners are dealing with a spouse or friends or other people who just don't innately feel as passionate as you and I may feel about this.
02:02:35.000We have to not be too pushy on people and give them time to absorb this and give them credible information.
02:02:42.000Wait till they sense that something's wrong.
02:02:45.000That, Alex, takes the frustration away.
02:02:48.000I've seen people literally destroy their marriages by going at this thing with a bludgeon, trying to hit people over the head and say, can't you see that this world is crumbling?
02:02:58.000I think we have to look at and take this as a test.
02:03:01.000We're all being tested in this world to see who's going to see, who's going to sense that something's wrong.
02:03:06.000And I try not to get in the way of people's blindness.
02:03:09.000If they're willfully blind, I'm going after the people who sense that something's wrong that I can influence.
02:03:19.000And plus, this is important, powerful info.
02:03:22.000If you try to push it on people, they automatically refuse.
02:03:25.000But if you just state, here's the facts, this is the way it is, and you know deep down that we're all in danger, and society is unraveling by design, so these globalists can build this nightmare system on its ashes.
02:03:41.000And ten years ago, I would get 50-50 positive, you know, 50% negative.
02:03:51.000I mean, people are really starting to wake up.
02:03:55.000That's why the system is injecting co-opted people, greenhorns, and that's how I see Glenn Beck.
02:04:03.000is that one show I'll watch, and it's all truth.
02:04:05.000The next show I watch, it's Neocon Lies, and he sells it like he really believes it a lot of the time, but I see people like Glenn Beck as basically a greenhorn that they're handling and using.
02:04:16.000Well, my view, and I know quite a bit about Glenn, and in fact, his mentor in his conservative philosophy is my uncle W. Clarence Gousen, who's a great mentor.
02:04:27.000But Glenn even saw things through rose-colored glasses.
02:04:31.000It took me two years before he died, Alex, before I could convince him that, in fact, Bush was part of the problem, that it was not redeemable, and the Republicans were part of the problem.
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02:10:48.000First, Naked Communist, then Naked Capitalist, and then, of course, he wrote the great, beautiful volume, The Making of America, a real seminal work.
02:10:56.000His 5,000-year lead has gone to bestseller status because of Glenn Beck recommending it.
02:11:02.000It's not quite as good, frankly, from my point of view, as The Making of America.
02:11:08.000But at least it's done its job in terms of getting people to be interested in the Constitution.
02:11:13.000And I think Glenn's done a great job about that.
02:11:32.000He's a very good person, but he's unstable and he's controllable.
02:11:36.000Sarah Palin is, to a certain extent, what I would call corruptible.
02:11:40.000She's been corrupted by the money that has been offered her, not only for the book deals, but for the private jet, for the handlers, all of this stuff that's being paid for.
02:11:51.000You know, she was just on her, flat on her back financially as governor of Alaska until they offered her this deal that she couldn't refuse.
02:12:02.000Now, they've learned how to play Sarah Palin very, very smart.
02:12:05.000They have not told her, you know, we're in control, you're going to take orders from us.
02:12:10.000But they know how to play her, so to speak, so that they can convince her to do stupid things like endorse John McCain for Senate and other bad endorsements that she's made.
02:12:21.000Glenn Beck is a more complex character.
02:12:24.000He comes from an unstable background, alcoholism, drug abuse, you know, some other things that I won't mention.
02:12:32.000He's come from a rock music background, makes him a little bit unstable.
02:14:13.000You know, sincere people have this problem, Alex, is that they can't admit they were wrong many times.
02:14:18.000They actually have to screw up their mind and convince themselves that what they feel is not right.
02:14:25.000And that's what Glenn Well, yeah, George Orwell called that Crime Stop.
02:14:29.000If you're having a thought, you know, Big Brother is saying that he's always been at war with East Asia, but just yesterday the news said that Big Brother had never been at war with East Asia.
02:14:40.000It's Crime Stop that when you realize that this is propaganda, you convince yourself that, no, that's just a conspiracy theory.
02:14:49.000But, I mean, the reports are You know, that his mother died mysteriously, probably suicide, all these other weird family problems.
02:14:59.000Then he allows himself to be videotaped saying he fake cries on TV.
02:15:03.000I mean, I see him, and nobody's perfect.
02:15:09.000As somebody who they're really building up to be the leader of the Patriot movement, because it was already there because of myself, Ron Paul, you know, your uncle, yourself, and thousands of other prominent, you know, real people, and that the system was losing credibility just denying that any of this exists.
02:15:28.000So here comes Glenn Beck, and he'll cover some of it, but then discredit what's real.
02:15:34.000I mean, FEMA camps under top off one and two.
02:15:38.000Under the Emergency Centers Act, under all the military urban warfare drills, under the civilian inmate labor camp program, and by the way, I sent this to him in the month that he was hyping that he thought it was real and...
02:17:22.000And he is starting to actually know this is all real, but you're right, he now, he's gone too far.
02:17:29.000I mean, I guess he, it's a very complex issue.
02:17:32.000It's just, it's creepy to have him writing a book where I'm basically the hero under a pseudonym, but then at the end of the book he says it isn't real.
02:17:57.000She's dynamic and she's beautiful and she has all of those things that make it a good manipulated ploy for people.
02:18:05.000But I'm convinced that they're maintaining Palin.
02:18:07.000They gave her her position on Fox News to increase her exposure.
02:18:10.000They could dump Glenn Beck anytime they wanted to if they really wanted to.
02:18:14.000But I think they like having a fallible foil out there in front of the people.
02:18:19.000Because at once, in terms of credible independence, Glenn Beck doesn't get a lot of traction because of his goofy nature and his sticking his tongue out and making pictures.
02:18:28.000You know, they don't put anybody well-spoken on Fox.
02:18:31.000When they want to talk about the birther issue and the birth certificate of the CIA background of Obama, they don't put someone credible who has the facts.
02:18:41.000They put someone like the former military doctor on there.
02:18:43.000He didn't know what he was talking about.
02:18:44.000He didn't even know the difference between a birth certificate and a certification of live birth from a lie.
02:19:18.000And it makes me see how weak I am and how fallible I am and the responsibility I've got, Joel, because I never intended to be having this big of an effect.
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02:22:18.000It means all the world under their control.
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02:22:35.000I believe first of all that we now need nothing short of a world constitution for the global financial system.
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02:24:29.000Hey folks, thanks for taking the call.
02:24:31.000Alex, first of all, I just want to let you know, I feel your pain sometimes when I'm listening to the program and I hear, I almost have tears in my eyes because just, this is a natural human emotion to be angry and to want to warn your fellow man.
02:24:49.000You have outgoing love and concern for people.
02:24:53.000So don't you ever feel bad that you're Getting angry or animated about this.
02:24:59.000It's the dumbed down, drugged up, fluoridated society that has just turned into zombies that is the antithesis of what we should be.
02:25:11.000Well, Michael, it's just that when I talk about being upset about this stuff, it's just getting worse because everything we talked about is true and worse.
02:25:23.000Yeah, and because I've studied history, I've studied these, you know, scientific dictators.
02:25:27.000I know their program, but to really see it now moving so quickly, and I guess it's that I have children, you know, eight years old, six, and two.
02:25:38.000And every time I look at them, I think about how dangerous this world is.
02:25:42.000And I just wish other people would realize how dangerous this is.
02:25:48.000Joel Skousen, can you comment to that for new listeners out there who tune in and may be wondering if this world government's real or if it is real?
02:26:00.000Well, you know, intrinsically, there's nothing wrong with government at any level that defends fundamental rights in a proper way and is limited by constitutional government.
02:26:10.000You could do that at a federal level, at a state level, or even at a world level.
02:26:51.000I don't believe the government story on 9-11, and yet the establishment is very, very worried about where we're going.
02:26:59.000Now, that's why I believe, Alex, that they're going to pull a war on us to bring people into line, to make people forget about their doubts.
02:27:07.000A war someday is going to be the big stick that's going to knock people over the head and bring them into line.
02:27:13.000I agree with you, but I want to get a final comment from Michael, but finishing up on that topic.
02:27:20.000There's no doubt he gave up his citizenship to become an Indonesian citizen and took the name Barry Sitaro.
02:27:27.000And now, Wayne Madsen, you were on with him right after him last week.
02:27:32.000Wayne Madsen got the other school certificate with another name.
02:27:37.000I mean, this guy's got more names than a South American drug lord.
02:27:47.000Bottom line, who is Barack Obama from your research?
02:27:50.000Well, Barack Obama, in my opinion, was someone who was born and raised in a leftist environment, and at some point he got brought into the New World Order, and I think it was through a CIA offer when he was at Occidental College, and then he went on.
02:28:08.000I think he was working undercover for the CIA and occasionally attending.
02:28:13.000Uh, from there on, but at some point, you know, you take a leftist and he's still active, a part of a leftist, but he's been bought and sold, and the proof of that, of course, when they make him wealthy.
02:28:22.000I mean, how does a fourth-rate attorney, who, by the way, lost his license in 2008, gave up his license because, to avoid charges that he had lied on his Bar Association application?
02:28:34.000I mean, this guy's a fraud from the very beginning, but the real sign is when they make him wealthy.
02:28:39.000You know that a fourth-rate lawyer working for community services isn't going to make enough to buy a $9 million property in Hawaii or a $1.5 billion house in Chicago.
02:28:50.000This guy's been, you know, co-opted, and I think he's a controlled entity.
02:29:27.000And there's a lot of truth mixed with error.
02:29:29.000Let's say Glenn Beck, for example, talks about the Constitution.
02:29:33.000Right there, people who believe in the Constitution automatically think, well, see, I'll side with him because he talks about the Constitution.
02:29:40.000How do we get through to people and show them that there's really no difference between who's behind the scenes in the Democratic and Republican Party?
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02:33:18.000And I tell you, I really do agree with his analysis and his breakdown on so many, so many subjects, especially on the Glenn Beck thing, the way Glenn Beck is so erratic.
02:33:30.000And it is always changing his views, but I do see him drifting towards more and more truth.
02:33:38.000I want to answer that caller's question about how do you reach out to people to know the difference between a Sarah Palin kind of Republicanoid awakening, just like Keith Olbermann was exposing tyranny when Bush was in, but as soon as Obama's in, he's now supporting it.
02:33:57.000How do we stop this Two-party tag-teaming.
02:34:03.000But first, going into a break, you said you think Limbaugh and Hannity, that they're actually dark side.
02:34:20.000I mean, everyone's, we don't know, none of us know everything that's going on behind the scenes in the dark side of government.
02:34:27.000So there's a big black hole of information because the government is keeping it secret.
02:34:32.000So it's one thing to say, you know, I really have doubts about this and this, and I have doubts about that.
02:34:37.000But that's not what Hannity and O'Reilly or Limbaugh do now.
02:34:40.000Now, Limbaugh used to, before he made his first big $3 million contract in his radio career, he used to be pro-conspiracy, he used to talk about it openly.
02:34:48.000He made that contract and the next day, he wasn't just saying, you know, I'm not sure about conspiracy anymore.
02:34:55.000You could tell he hated it, and he was going to denigrate and excoriate any person who brought that subject up, and he proceeded to do so.
02:35:02.000The same thing happens with Hannity and O'Reilly.
02:35:05.000Yeah, they've got that constant smirk on their face, but to me it's an indication that there's not a legitimate sincerity.
02:35:12.000But that smirk really turns to Total disgust, total denigration when they start to talk to anybody who's got conspiracy.
02:35:20.000They're not satisfied to merely say, hey, you brought up some good points.
02:35:23.000They won't even let them finish a sentence.
02:35:26.000And that means that they bought into the concept, which I believe is part of the media conspiracy, that we must denigrate this issue of conspiracy so that no one dares Bring that up.
02:35:37.000So that none dare call it conspiracy, so that once the global system emerges, after they've built it, you know, just like a giant ship built in a hangar, it opens up and outslides the ship into the harbor.
02:35:50.000They've now launched the world government.
02:35:52.000They're now in the BBC, Times of London, AP, Time Magazine, saying world government's the answer to all your problems, and it's exactly what Cleon Skousen said 50 years ago.
02:36:56.000If the establishment continues to just brazenly deny all this, after it's out in the open, it's going to completely politically discredit them.
02:37:04.000So I think they're putting their toe in the water with Glenn Beck, and I think with somebody who's real, like Andrew Napolitano, from my research, they're starting to put their whole foot in, and it's almost like they're starting to hedge their bets, thinking they may lose.
02:37:23.000As I say, I think they have the war card they're going to play in order, so they may give a little bit on the conspiracy, admit a little bit, but they will never go all the way and admit that this is really real and really a threat.
02:37:36.000I'll tell you why conspiracy is so important for the media to denigrate.
02:37:40.000This is going to be the primal issue that they're going to use to institute Wholesale roundup of dissidents someday.
02:37:48.000When this war occurs, when there's a preemptive nuclear strike on America by Russia and China, our leaders are going to come out of their bunkers, and believe me, they've built brand new, very, very deep underground bunkers in the Washington, D.C.
02:38:15.000We're the only ones capable of running this new government.
02:38:18.000But they will convince America, in the panic of having major destruction in this country, that they must give rebuilding power to a militarized world government.
02:38:30.000And when that war is prosecuted, all with the patriotism and knee-jerk reaction, getting behind government just like in World War II, even though our own government was instigated, starting a lot of this, they're going to have to deal with dissident.
02:38:45.000They're going to have to deal with the Joel Skousen and the Alex Joneses who say, our government knew in advance this was a conspiracy to bring war upon us, to force us into a new world order.
02:38:54.000They will say, mark my words, Those people who believe that our government conspired to do this are traitors.
02:39:02.000They're being unfaithful to our troops.
02:39:16.000But if it's a Muslim conspiracy, that can exist because they control those decoys.
02:39:21.000It's that government and big corporations can't stage events, and that's why they hate 9-11 Truth so much in all its variants, because it introduces the idea that Gulf of Tonkin was staged, which is admitted, and Operation Ajax was staged.
02:39:37.000And once people start You know, seeing things for what they really are and who stands to gain, that could potentially, if 9-11 truth became completely mainstream, take away this globalist nuclear sneak attack.
02:39:52.000And the reason I agree with you, Joel, studying the entire geopolitical constellation, Is when you read the State Department memorandums, when you read the Pentagon training, when you read NLE09, when I've talked to colonels and generals who are now retired and JAG officers here on the air, they on record, this is public,
02:40:15.000And they have video games, countless games out with the same script, the same plot, that America is going to be nuked by domestic terrorists working with the Russians or Chinese.
02:40:28.000So they'll nuke us, blame it on the Russians or let the Russians do it, and then blame it on Joel Skousen or Alex Jones.
02:40:36.000And in these video games, they torture the patriots.
02:40:41.000But to make a long story short, They are getting the military ready for the United States to be devastated and for I4, NATO, UN troops to occupy us.
02:40:55.000And you see Henry Kissinger and others saying all we need is the right major crisis and the people of the United States will accept the new world order.
02:41:04.000They will accept United Nations troops on the streets of America.
02:41:07.000And so because I realize They need a bold, devastating stroke to really re-engineer the United States into the ultimate army and to roll out their secret weapons and take over the planet with the Anglo-American establishment duking it out with the Chinese and Russians, that that is exactly the type of thing they will do, is nuke major cities and use it to totally take over and absolutely that's when they're going to send teams to arrest
02:41:37.000Tens of thousands of Americans who they know are patriots, and that's when we're going to have to defend ourselves if it comes to that.
02:41:45.000Well, and unfortunately, they're not going to allow people to prepare for that.
02:41:49.000That's why I have not believed that there'll ever be any domestic terrorism using nuclear weapons.
02:41:53.000In fact, it's a lot of disinformation about loose nukes going around.
02:41:57.000In fact, the suitcase nukes are the most guarded prized possessions, the jewels Of weaponry within the Soviet Union, the continuing Soviets, and the United States government.
02:42:08.000That was simply an excuse to be able to allow the government to romp around and, you know, and foment the terrorist threat image.
02:42:16.000But if they were to allow a loose nuke to go off, a small one for example, what would the American people want to do?
02:42:21.000They'd want to prepare against nuclear radiation.
02:42:23.000And our government does not want people prepared for this.
02:42:26.000They want us held hostage to this great Preemptive nuclear strike that they're planning on unleashing upon us so that there's a maximum panic That's why when I may explain the last show, you know when I was hired My architectural firm, my security firm, too, designed nuclear prefab fallout shelters for Pakistan.
02:43:05.000You know, why not the American people?
02:43:08.000Well, we know that there were cases in the 60s, 70s and 80s where the establishment wanted to have a nuclear war and they talked about how they could get even greater control over society.
02:43:18.000I mean, that's the only way they're really going to end our free society and really try to get our guns is by a catastrophic psychological wound so that we will accept Absolutely.
02:43:30.000And, Joel, do you believe that 9-11 was a beta test for a massive controlled nuclear strike?
02:43:39.000Well, I don't think it was a beta test.
02:43:41.000I think it was a prelude to preparing the nation to see how much they could be manipulated with a terror strike.
02:43:48.000I mean, if they could pull off 9-11 and subvert all of the truth that came out about government involvement, explosives involvement, if they could subvert that, They knew that they could pull off a major preemptive nuclear strike and subvert the information that I have and put out on my website on how they have been covering for the Russians, how they have been continuing to allow Russia to build up and transfer technology to Russia and China, knowing that they're going to someday attack.
02:44:15.000I mean, they have to be able to cover up this information.
02:44:50.000In fact, I have a new third edition coming out in a couple of months of what is called Strategic Relocation, North American Guide to Safe Places.
02:44:58.000Where do you think the safest place in North America is?
02:45:01.000I mean, I know being in Central Texas, we're a major target of nukes, but if the globalists are launching the attack, will they want to destroy our own military, or will it just be the major cities to reduce population?
02:45:14.000No, they'll actually go after the military almost exclusively.
02:45:17.000That's why I predict there's only about 15 major cities that will be destroyed.
02:45:21.000They don't want to destroy all the population.
02:45:24.000They want to harness that abject panic in favor of the New World Order and rebuilding and prosecuting this patriotic war afterwards.
02:45:34.000So they want to kill the old military, bring in the foreign troops, hype up the new conscripts to go under UN globalist control.
02:45:41.000So obviously you're saying Fort Hood's a prime target for the globalist controlled strike.
02:46:01.000The Russians intend to survive this and continue to work.
02:46:04.000And so people ought not to believe the propaganda about absolute, I mean, there's going to be a tremendous devastation, if nothing else, from the EMP strike.
02:46:12.000When do you believe the globalists are going to pull the strings on their Chinese and Russian minions?
02:46:19.000Well, as you said, they don't control them.
02:46:21.000I mean, when do you see this conflict being planned?
02:46:25.000I say that my best prediction is that it's only a 50% chance by the midway in this decade, 2015, about a 90% chance by the end of this decade.
02:46:35.000I frankly think it's going to take longer to pull off just because the Russian, or China especially, isn't ready yet.
02:46:44.000So 2020, you see NORAD standing down and hundreds of nukes raining down on the military.
02:46:51.000I see that there's a 90% probability in that time frame that that's when that strike is going to come.
02:46:58.000It isn't a panic situation that people... You know, as we fight for liberty, we've got to realize that we've got to be prepared for a takedown.
02:47:06.000In other words, it isn't enough to just go blindly optimistic.
02:47:13.000Everything they do is to destroy this Christian nation.
02:47:17.000That's their number one mission, and I tend to agree with you.
02:47:20.000I think they're going to blow the living daylights out of this country, and all the evidence shows they're building towards that.
02:47:27.000You know, it's amazing, Alex, how many in my former career as a high security architect, how many, when I was doing jobs in Colorado and the Denver and Aspen, Colorado area, how many times contractors say, oh, did you know about, did you help design that bunker system for that house over there?
02:47:40.000He's ex-CIA and he's ex-FBI and, you know, these people who've been deep into government in the dark side, they know this attack is coming.
02:47:50.000They're building bunker things in their retreats.
02:47:52.000Out in Colorado and other ski resorts and Utah and things.
02:47:56.000Contractors know about it, but the American people don't.
02:48:02.000Yeah, I mean people keep saying the New World Order will never win, they'll never get our guns.
02:48:32.000First of all, I think they're going to have enough private military contractors, thugs, to be able to do whatever people control they need to.
02:48:39.000No, no, I mean, I agree with you, but reading the Army documents, I'm sure you've seen these, but if you want them, I'll send them to you.
02:48:46.000They are training to bring in UN troops.
02:48:48.000Have you seen the deals they've signed to bring in Mexican and Canadian troops during terror attacks in the U.S.?
02:49:16.000They don't want to get tangled up with the millions of civilians with weapons here on that.
02:49:22.000But I frankly don't think it's necessary to bring in foreign troops.
02:49:26.000In fact, it would be counterproductive to convincing Americans to go along with the benevolence of the New World Order.
02:49:32.000If they saw the new world order... No, no, I mean, I agree they're converting... I mean, they have more troops in Afghanistan and Iraq that are mercenaries than they do regular military.
02:49:41.000Joel, Joel, I agree with that, but I'm just saying, in all the training, I mean, it's public that they're saying they want to use NATO slash UN to help us during emergencies, so they're certain... You'll have to send me some of those, because I'd like to analyze that, just to see... Let's carry on that for a future discussion, Alex, when I've had a chance to see that.
02:50:22.000I'm glad to hear that he's going to be on the show.
02:50:24.000I have a quote here from Joel, and I just have a few questions for you.
02:50:27.000Joel, is it true that you said that I've been in a few of the Council for National Policy meetings and they're dull, there's never anything sinister going on there, there's no influential government policy being made there, that they're rather dull, and that there's no conspiratility, and that they're not secretive, even though they refuse to release any of their meetings.
02:50:46.000Alright, alright, we gotta go to Bright, but we'll come back.
02:50:48.000There's a left-wing CFR-funded conspiracy theory that says some group called the CMP runs everything.
02:50:56.000And, uh, it's a total diversion, but we'll talk about it on the other side.
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02:54:34.000You're part of a secret right-wing group more powerful than the CFR.
02:54:38.000So I went and researched it and found out the Hunt brothers were involved in stuff and it looked like a right-wing attempt to get the government back from the globalists and then it got taken over by the globalists.
02:54:50.000But then I noticed it was big foundation money and like Mother Jones and Rolling Stone We're promoting it, and that's what the White House regulations are.
02:55:05.000Cass Sunstein says we've now got the London Independent admitting the government is infiltrating conspiracy culture and posing to then attack real people.
02:55:17.000And I hear Joel laughing during the break when I ask him about this, but here's Joel for two hours exposing the Republican takeover of the Patriot movement.
02:55:27.000And then a caller calls in and says, because I've heard it all, you know, will you tell me about the CMP and then are you part of it?
02:55:36.000Well, I was part of the original CMP starting.
02:55:40.000I was there as Chairman of the Conservative National Committee, so I have firsthand information about how it began there.
02:55:47.000I was working as Executive Editor of Conservative Digest under Richard Vigoury, working with Howard Phillips, who's a real patriot.
02:55:57.000Frankly, we were making really headway in stopping the compromises that the Reagan administration was involved in under the influence of Vice President George Bush.
02:56:09.000And so the CMP was started, in fact, just like to blunt our movement, just like the Tea Party movement is being blunted today.
02:56:16.000You had your big-name Republicans move in and start to, like Bob Dole and Newt Gingrich and others, came in and tried to basically water down our movement, which was to have a no-compromise strategy in there.
02:56:29.000And so the CMP became, frankly, kind of a mimic of what the left was doing.
02:56:37.000But they had no conspiracies or tendencies except, and that's why they kept these things secret, because they wanted some heavy hitters in there, and they charged a whale of money, $1,000 or $2,000 a year to be a member of the CMP.
02:56:51.000They did have some secrecy, but it wasn't anything that...
02:56:55.000You know, it was conspiratorial in nature.
02:56:58.000Their basic movement was to co-opt our attempts to put some spine into the Republican Party and their resistance to the compromises of the Reagan administration.
02:57:07.000Yeah, but Joel, then there's the spin that the CMP runs the whole world now.
02:57:14.000We're sorry, your call did not go through.
02:57:17.000Will you please... Joel, you still there?
02:57:29.000It's like we have other guests on who've talked about it, because it's interesting to see how they control the right wing and the left wing.
02:57:37.000But it's like saying the CFR runs everything, when it really does have a lot of power and actually writes a lot of the laws.
02:57:42.000But they themselves are just errand boys that do it.
02:57:45.000You know, this interview's been really good with Joel Skousen.
02:57:48.000Maybe we should go into overdrive, guys.