Alex Jones goes over the latest in the war on nuclear radiation, George Soros says the dollar should no longer be the reserve currency, and the Supreme Court rules that the government can't know that you're innocent and keep you on death row.
00:00:34.000It is the 11th day of April, 2011, the one-month anniversary of the disaster caused by the earthquake and subsequent tsunami that hit the Fukushima nuclear power plant complex, devastating the six reactors that have since gone Chernobyl, melted down, exploded, you name it.
00:00:55.000Even mainstream news in Japan reporting radiation levels at least four times what Chernobyl was.
00:01:03.000They've also been hit by another earthquake today directly in the vicinity of Fukushima.
00:01:10.000And our media is still playing this down as radiation is found in milk and food all over the United States.
00:01:16.000The EPA has moved to up the levels of what they say safe radiation is.
00:01:23.000So I guess if you were flying in a spaceship past a supernova and it fried you and killed you, they would just raise the level of radiation and say it was safe, even though you were turned into atoms.
00:01:36.000Even though you were broken down into basically fried dust, they would just raise the level and say that that was safe.
00:01:44.000Or if you were flying by a neutron star, And got several million times safe levels of radiation.
00:01:49.000They would just raise the level and say this is safe.
00:01:51.000Just like with the troops and the depleted uranium, which their own Pentagon reports going back decades admitted was deadly and the troops shouldn't be able to use it.
00:01:59.000It was an emergency backup weapon when nuclear war was already on.
00:02:11.000Now, George Soros has had a nice weekend meeting at Bretton Woods 2 in New Hampshire, and he told Bloomberg, and this clip is coming up in the next segment, quote, the big question is whether the U.S.
00:02:25.000dollar should be the reserve currency.
00:02:29.000It shares that role with the euro, other currencies, and commodities, but it's not Just gold being used as a substitute, but oil too, which is putting upward pressure on the market.
00:02:38.000Article by Aaron Dykes at Infowars.com from Saturday.
00:02:42.000Headline, Soros, dollar no longer reserve currency.
00:02:45.000And we have the video and audio clip there for you.
00:02:52.000As dollar dips focus on the Fed, but then the dollar, that was earlier this morning, began to go back up yet again, and gold down by a few dollars, but still at near records.
00:03:03.000But it's dropped from $1,476.21 to $1,473.
00:03:04.000So we're going to be going over all of that as well today.
00:03:09.000So we're going to be going over all of that as well today.
00:03:13.000But the even more insane news I've got for you, and again, everyday information of this magnitude is coming out.
00:03:25.000Like government issuing free laptops to school children that aren't really free, paid for by taxpayers, a tissue of deception, and then watching them at home, in the shower, in their beds, and admitting they're doing it, and then nobody gets in trouble and it's no big deal.
00:03:40.000Chicago's school districts ban children bringing their own lunches.
00:04:31.000The Free State Project, I think is the name of it, or Free Minds Radio, and I heard them reading it out of CNN and I almost ran off the road.
00:04:39.000I know it's a credible show, so I didn't doubt it, but then I heard it on another radio show, kind of doubted what they were saying, so I went and looked it up, and sure enough, what the Free Minds were reporting is absolutely true.
00:04:51.000So, they're just now being public and saying, yes, we want to put innocent people in prison.
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00:08:06.000UN-led French troops have smashed into the Ivory Coast.
00:08:14.000They have taken over the President's compound and have handed him over to the rebels who on record for three weeks have been running around slaughtering everyone with Machetes and machine guns, men, women and children.
00:08:26.000Another globalist butchering operation for humanitarian purposes going quite nicely.
00:08:32.000That's the new globalist model, is they have rebels rebel and then they send in globalist stormtroopers to engage in extermination as well.
00:08:41.000And then the golden oil is promptly handed over directly.
00:08:44.000So the new colonial imperialism kicking into high gear for humanitarian reasons, of course.
00:08:52.000And we've got Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer joining us in the second half of the third hour to give us his view on Libya.
00:09:02.000His view on what's happening on the African continent as well there on the western side on the Ivory Coast.
00:09:12.000We also have Webster Griffin Tarpley via cell phone joining us from DC to also look at what's happening in the world markets.
00:09:22.000But on top of that, the move towards an open world government run by private central banks that issue a new level of derivative currencies.
00:10:04.000Undoubtedly, we're entering an intensified tectonic phase right now of world events.
00:10:14.000We're also going to be getting into More of what's happening in the Middle East, in Israel, in Bahrain, in Jordan, in Saudi Arabia.
00:10:25.000This weekend, I listened to a lot of news radio.
00:10:29.000I listened to a lot of the TV channels that are on XM, because I can be playing with my children while I'm doing that, or oil painting while I'm doing that, or cleaning the yard up while I'm doing that.
00:10:43.000Not just this morning, but over the weekend.
00:10:45.000And I heard, repeatedly, The admission that yes, all of the Middle Eastern countries are going to fall.
00:10:54.000That this is actually a good thing for globalism, especially on Bloomberg.
00:10:59.000They had a lot of experts on, but also on some of the Sunday morning TV shows just everywhere.
00:11:06.000They're basically now admitting what many of our experts have pointed out, and what I've pointed out here, that this is a globalist destabilization program, that the political atmosphere The climate was already there, with food prices increasing, with the fact that tyrants are in place, both western installed and propped up, but also organic variety, but that basically the globalists are very happy about this because they like chaos and the pretext to then invade these countries under humanitarian auspices.
00:11:36.000That really backs up what Tarpley's saying, what Lindsey Williams is saying what so many other individuals that we interview are saying.
00:11:46.000And now, suddenly, that was the talking point this weekend, along with Bretton Woods 2, the dollar's bad, thank goodness the international bankers are saving us, they've got all the answers, the free market is bad, they want a collectivized central bank run system controlled by the very banks that have orchestrated the crisis.
00:12:07.000So we're going to be going over all of that news and I'm going to open the phones up as well.
00:12:12.000We're going to take a lot of calls ahead of our guests joining us and then we'll take calls during the periods when we don't have guests because each guest is only joining us for 30 minutes in the second and third hour.
00:12:22.000So all told we've got Around about an hour and 45 minutes today to be able to intersperse your phone calls on any of the issues I'm raising or any questions or comments.
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00:12:58.000The measurements show from what happened a month ago today, the earthquake on the one month anniversary.
00:13:03.000I don't want to just mention that and then not really drill down into it with more detail.
00:13:08.000So at the bottom of the hour, I'll spend five, 10 minutes just covering this.
00:13:13.000But I do want to underline and highlight this information because it's so big.
00:13:20.000We, of course, reported a lot last week about the announcements by the EPA.
00:13:26.000They've now put the new measurements into place as policy, but they're saying that there's a public comment period the next month if anybody has any questions.
00:13:35.000But then they promptly, of course, always ignore the public comment.
00:13:38.000I mean, even in 2000, 2005, 2010, three separate times, the EPA union, as well as large portions of the Food and Drug Administration unions in the country.
00:13:52.000In one case in 2005, over 90% of their scientists signed the petition with a large dossier, and they've done it three times, with all the evidence of bone cancer, IQ reduction, bone fractures, dental fluorosis, caused by fluoride.
00:14:16.000So in the last 11 years, three different times they've gone to Congress and testified, they've gone to the EPA and FDA and over 90% of their scientists sign on to the paper saying sodium fluoride is deadly poison and bioaccumulates and it needs to be taken out.
00:14:35.000And the EPA and FDA promptly, completely ignore it until What was it, January of this year?
00:14:45.000And they said, okay, we're gonna say we shouldn't put 1.1 parts per million, you should put 0.7 parts per million in the water.
00:14:54.000It is too much, we should cut it, cut it substantively.
00:14:59.000Many cities, the average is about 1.5, but they were saying, we recommend 1.1, but now we say cut it down to 0.7 parts per million.
00:15:09.000That shows that they do try to ignore you, but when reality sets in, they have to respond at least a little bit.
00:15:16.000And they also said the same day, in January, put out a report saying we need to stop using it as pesticide.
00:15:22.000They gas fruits and vegetables in warehouses with it.
00:16:14.000The point is the EPA is, and in fact guys pull it out of last Wednesday's stack, I have the articles that have the links to the EPA and the EPA's announcements where it said well with strontium we're going to raise it this many times and with this isotope we're going to raise it to 24,997 times what we previously said was safe and with this Radioactive isotope, we're going to raise the safe level 10,000 times because that isn't in my stack and I want to be able to go back over EPA.
00:16:44.000Just search the term if you can't find the articles from last week.
00:16:47.000EPA set to raise limits on safe radiation.
00:16:52.000The reason I wanted to let you know that's coming up is that I don't have words to describe, I could pull my hair out, I could yell and scream, to just sit here and see the system calmly knowing that we'll just muddle through it as they report the radiation building up in the US, in North America as well, not just here, but in Mexico, Northern Mexico, and up into Canada, as far north as Alaska.
00:17:20.000Because they're dumping seven and a half million times safe levels of radiation into the water.
00:17:25.000It's been off-gassing into the air now for a month straight.
00:17:28.000They were hit with another earthquake today.
00:17:30.000And they just calmly report here in the U.S.
00:18:54.000I have a tendency to say I'm going to cover this later and then start getting into it now.
00:19:00.000We will see increased cancers, as Dr. Bob Bowman said three weeks ago on this show.
00:19:06.000Three degrees in nuclear physics, former head of the Star Wars program.
00:19:09.000But it won't be falling over dead in a month or even a year.
00:19:12.000It'll just be more leukemias, more cancers.
00:19:15.000And they are reporting all over the Japanese news, four times Chernobyl levels.
00:19:20.000The governor of the prefecture where The Fukushima plant is based, the prefecture of Fukushima, saying they've been totally betrayed.
00:19:30.000People are getting the radiation sickness and the government, they say, lied to them and kept telling them levels were safe and that previously they lied to them and said these reactors are safe.
00:19:40.000Well, I mean, what do you expect, Governor?
00:19:43.000I mean, you expect central governments to be truthful?
00:19:48.000They're universally run by dictator scum, criminals, filth.
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00:24:36.000About half the population doesn't have to pay private taxes to the private Federal Reserve, but many Americans are getting ready to write their checks to the private offshore banking cartel.
00:24:47.000Now, getting into the police state news, this is out of the Chicago Tribune.
00:24:55.000See, that's written to make it sound reasonable, but it's certain parts of the Chicago area, certain school districts, are banning them entirely.
00:25:08.000Where you cannot bring school lunches.
00:25:11.000And the school officials, not servants, but the school officials, and we'll show folks a document cam shot of this article.
00:25:19.000For PrisonPlanet.TV viewers are saying yes that parents can't be trusted the school will decide what your children eat and of course this is openly stating that the government believes that your children belong to them and that they know how to make the best decisions.
00:25:35.000Remember three years ago a ruling at the state level in California that homeschooling was now illegal and they said because the state has decided that we can give you a better education and your parents and unless you have a state issued teaching license you cannot teach your children now it was later overturned by a federal court but it shows the attitude of government your children belong to us and the public schools all over the country train the kids how to spy on their parents
00:26:05.000here in austin they give them credit cards where they put money credits on them you You get 200 bucks for turning in parents.
00:26:12.000They ask what is in your medicine cabinet.
00:26:17.000The local TV ad put out by the Austin Police Department about bonus recruitment month and report what's happening in school and outside of school and turn in a family member and get $200.
00:26:30.000That's the biggest cash reward you can get, and the kids are all smiling, being handed their barcode cards with their names on it as part of their tattletale system to remind them to be good little spies for the system.
00:26:45.000Homeland Security's tried to recruit my dad, the other dentist at his office, they've talked to other professionals, they're all getting Homeland Security visits, but don't report On the $376 billion laundered by Wachovia and Wells Fargo of drug money and their chartering of the aircraft.
00:27:03.000Don't report the DU killing the troops.
00:29:05.000You don't let your biological slave parents make you food.
00:29:09.000Unless they have a medical excuse, they must eat the food served in the cafeteria.
00:29:14.000And see, there's no law, it's a policy.
00:29:16.000There's no law to take vaccines, they just say it is the law, and when you call them on their bluff, they go, oh actually there's none.
00:29:22.000The principal said that they're protecting the children from unhealthful food choices, meaning their parents.
00:29:28.000We're going to come back and finish up with this before we get into the government saying, we'll tell you what lunches to have or how much salt.
00:29:34.000But, radiation, we're raising the levels and saying it's safe.
00:29:38.000And then, Supreme Court rules, prosecutors are allowed to withhold evidence or lie about you.
00:29:44.000Oh yes, it's good to put innocent people.
00:34:38.000The school police take it and throw it in the trash, and if you do it again, you're going in an in-school suspension, and after that you're kicked out.
00:34:45.000And now when schools kick you out, they'll slap criminal charges on top of it, claiming you're truant when they triggered you being kicked out.
00:34:54.000Nutrition-wise, it's better for the children to eat at the school.
00:35:53.000Carmona said she created the policy six years ago after watching students bring bottles of soda and flaming hot chips on field trips for their lunch.
00:36:02.000Although she would not name any schools that employ such practices, she said it was fairly common.
00:36:09.000And then they have the Chicago School District saying that Chicago Public Schools spokeswoman said, we will not tell you which schools do it, but others are.
00:36:17.000In fact, listen parents and general public, slaves, we won't even tell you what schools do this.
00:37:58.000Just like in private prisons and government prisons, where the diets in some cases are 80% soy, and the men are becoming sick, or the women are having increased breast cancer.
00:38:08.000Doesn't matter if all that soy causes problems.
00:38:58.000For at least 14 years, I've seen AP, Reuter articles, I've pulled them up here on air countless times.
00:39:04.000They just had another one a few weeks ago, where they do an unannounced drill, generally at elementary schools, And a man comes with a gun to the door.
00:39:12.000The teacher doesn't even know, almost has a heart attack.
00:39:14.000They line the kids up and say, we're going to kill you now.
00:39:16.000We're homeschoolers against public education.
00:39:19.000Or we're a group against open borders.
00:39:21.000That was the latest thing in the AP two weeks ago.
00:39:27.000And they march the kids out in the parking lot, blow a bus up.
00:39:31.000I've actually been to one of these events at Belton.
00:39:33.000They blow a bus up or a car, fire shoots out, and if the eight-year-olds weren't defecating themselves then, it's just urination, defec- I mean, this is in the news!
00:39:43.000Then they lock them down and won't let them go out all day, no lunch is allowed to show them how- you can go pull this up, you think I'm joking.
00:39:50.000All over the country, it's the same psych warfare, federally written.
00:39:52.000The schools always say, well, we're just following what the feds wrote.
00:39:55.000We're just following the program to get this federal grant, this safety grant.
00:39:59.000And they'll lock them down in the school all day, and they're in their room, no lunch allowed, and to show them what a real lockdown's like, these are quotes from the news, then they have to urinate and defecate in buckets.
00:40:14.000Guys, search, children forced to use bathroom in trash can during school drill.
00:40:22.000Two weeks ago, the group attacking unannounced was an anti-open border group.
00:40:27.000And then the parents are under mind control.
00:40:29.000The school goes, sorry we had to do it, your kids have nightmares.
00:40:32.000It's because the anti-immigration groups might attack, or the homeschoolers might attack.
00:40:36.000And the parents, most of them go, well I'm not going to get mad at authority figures, because I feel powerless subconsciously.
00:40:41.000I'm going to get mad at the gun group.
00:40:42.000That's right, there's an imaginary gun group that made my six-year-old And if you think they'll stop with the kids, remember just last year they had unannounced drills at a large pharmacy chain?
00:40:57.000Had unannounced drills where a man would come with a gun and rob them and it was a drill, mandated by the insurance company?
00:41:05.000All of this is to create the perception of crime.
00:41:07.000These drills are giant re-education camps.
00:41:11.000You watch the movie Red Dawn, that's based on real type composites that have happened in different areas of the world, where they're in the sports stadium, and the parents come up to the fence to talk to their kids, and they're bleeding and they've been beaten.
00:41:23.000And what they do in a re-education camp is they say, we've got food if you accept and help beat the other people in here.
00:41:29.000If you decry the Bill of Rights and Constitution, if you say America's bad, if you'll become a spy for us, that's what Camp X-Ray is in Guantanamo Bay, where so many of the rebel leaders now, used to overthrow other countries, are shipped out.
00:41:43.000The head rebel, who is admittedly Al Qaeda, was trained at a quote, unnamed black site.
00:41:48.000They grab him, torture him for five, six years, brainwash him, prepare him, put him in power.
00:41:54.000And that's what a re-education camp is.
00:41:56.000Well, if you study re-education camps, public schools are re-education brainwashing camps.
00:42:02.000First, you gotta go and thumbprint and get a special ID to be able to go in and get your kids.
00:42:06.000Then, even if you're pulling them up to pick them up, and the teacher knows who you are, and you're, you know, got a thumbprint, got a face scan.
00:42:18.000But you have got to go through all this.
00:42:22.000So there it is, and I got a bunch of other news I want to get to, and then your phone calls.
00:42:28.000Meanwhile, our media hardly even criticizes China anymore.
00:42:31.000Beijing police halt unapproved church services.
00:42:37.000Well in America, if you don't get a 501c3, For your church, even though under the First Amendment it's totally legal and lawful, they tricked you 60 years ago to sign on to a charity.
00:42:50.000And the big denomination standardized it by ordering all their subgroups throughout the country and the world.
00:42:55.000To sign up for a 501c3, which takes you from being a religious institution under the First Amendment, Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, and so all the big denominations in the 50s and 60s shifted over to, oh, we still get our tax exemption, we're just now a charitable organization and can't be involved in political activity.
00:43:16.000And so, I've seen Baptist churches in Austin issue sheets.
00:44:34.000Now, again, just like the Chicago Tribune had an article about, oh, a few things are banned from school and your lunch, to make it sound reasonable, then you read the first paragraph, all lunches are banned from parents, period.
00:45:19.000And they say conservative justices prevailed and are allowing the district attorney's office to have no liability.
00:45:29.000And to overturn the $14 million award for wrongful conviction, a man who spent 14 years on death row and successfully sued the New Orleans prosecutors.
00:45:39.000It's like Glenn Beck a few months ago saying, now Google is working with George Soros and the UN, and they are overthrowing things, and they are with the CIA and NSA, but I'm not with the liberals who think that the government is spying on you without warrants, or that Google is.
00:46:04.000The conservative justices, see, they kill one side of the Bill of Rights, and the liberals, they kill the Second Amendment and property rights and things like that.
00:46:13.000So one group, you know, we'll get rid of these rights and you get rid of those.
00:47:09.000The poor people who didn't get as good a diet.
00:47:11.000This rhyme was an English proverb from at least the mid-17th century, appearing in John Clark's collection of sayings in 1639 in the form of, Jack will eat no fat and Joel doth love no lean, yet betwixt them both they lick the dishes clean.
00:47:32.000The saying entered the canon of English nursery rhymes when it was printed in Mother Goose's melody around 1765, but it may have been adopted for use with children much earlier.
00:47:45.000In popular culture, I think that's enough.
00:47:47.000The point is, between the Republicans and Democrats, both sides play the liberty people on one issue, but then always compromise and sell it out, while attacking it on the other.
00:47:56.000So, to make a long story short, I've seen the Dallas Crime Lab, the Houston Crime Lab, the Tulia Crime Lab, the San Antonio Crime Lab, just where I lived in Texas growing up.
00:48:08.000Well, it came out four or five years ago that tens of thousands of innocent people were sent to prison in Texas, just in Houston.
00:48:17.000And that they knew they were all totally innocent, and they would just ask prosecutors, you want them to be guilty?
00:48:33.000Kind of like that federal jury with Bernard von Nutzhaus, 13 years, coining his own silver, speaking out against the Federal Reserve as, to be technical, there's more than 14 major private mints, thousands of different coin dealers who make their own coins, to be technical.
00:48:51.000So totally legal, totally lawful, always has been, even the Wall Street Journal had to admit that, even the Associated Press was shocked because it wasn't illegal.
00:48:58.000Doesn't matter, they found a jury that he's going to 15 years in prison!
00:49:03.000Just like they're arresting people all over the country that try to use, now I'm seeing reports of the silver dollars put out in the sixties.
00:49:15.000I remember being a kid and pulling through McDonald's with my dad and him paying for stuff with, you know, the silver dollars.
00:49:21.000Oh no, people, you try to pay with a two dollar bill.
00:50:13.000Cop calls me in, so I was talking about the police dealing drugs, and he said, Alex, you talk about government drug dealing or police drug dealing anymore, we're gonna take you and hang you in your cell.
00:50:22.000Well, that was when I got arrested one time.
00:50:24.000I'm compositing the different stories together.
00:50:26.000Another time, slammed my head in the...
00:50:28.000He took me to the principal's office, kicked the principal out, and said, uh, black people are gonna rape you and give you AIDS, you're going to prison, we know you're stealing stereo equipment.
00:50:58.000The earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear disaster that killed thousands of Japanese citizens is nothing compared to the devastation that could be caused by hyperinflation that will soon hit the United States and could lead to millions of Americans becoming homeless, all caused by the devalued U.S.
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00:54:37.000And we need to realize that this is the way every major society goes.
00:54:42.000But to have a Supreme Court rule that, uh, yeah, prosecutors are allowed to withhold evidence that you're innocent and basically frame you.
00:55:21.000I'll start the next hour and go to about 20 minutes of calls, because I want to get to everybody, and then I'll get into the radiation situation.
00:55:28.000The government says, don't worry, we're raising the levels to thousands of times safe levels.
00:55:36.000So don't worry, that problem's handled.
00:55:39.000I'll get into this more with Tarpley as well.
00:55:43.000But Aaron Dykes has this article he wrote Saturday, Soros, dollar no longer reserve currency.
00:55:49.000And here is the clip from Bloomberg that is the basis of his article.
00:55:54.000article where at the Bretton Woods 2 this weekend, he told Bloomberg, who was fully ensconced there with continued coverage of how great the bankers are and how thankful we should be to them for wrecking everything by design.
00:56:05.000And Soros went on to say, the big question is whether the U.S.
00:56:08.000dollar should be the reserve currency.
00:57:23.000He'll be very happy when he makes his way into Hades.
00:57:27.000He'll fit in nicely there with all the other parasites of history.
00:57:30.000Now, the bigger issue that came out of this, again, listening to Bloomberg Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, they have audio Bloomberg TV, with all these snakes making a parade through.
00:57:47.000They've all decided, and they said U.S. policymakers are quietly agreeing, like Geithner did two years ago in China, that, yes, they are looking at getting rid of the dollar as the world reserve currency and that they agree at the meeting that needs to happen.
00:58:03.000In fact, we should have another headline.
00:58:04.000Problem is I have to ferret out all those quotes, but I know I've got them here in my stack.
00:58:07.000Where they're saying, oh yes, the policymakers agreed at the meeting and the private banks that we should move away.
00:58:14.000Uh, and see at these meetings are the bankers that give the orders to the government bureaucrats that are the former CEOs of those companies, or directors.
00:58:22.000Kind of like the SPP meeting, uh, on North American Union.
00:58:25.000It was over a hundred CEOs there, on record, giving the three government leaders, Mexico, Canada, and the U.S., their orders, and they were saying, yes sir, to them.
00:59:05.000What does a pilot do when the helicopter engine fails in flight?
00:59:08.000No time to think, just act automatically.
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01:00:27.000School districts are saying parents can't pack your lunch.
01:00:30.000You must buy it from the company store.
01:00:33.000Supreme Court rules that prosecutors are allowed to frame you, that it's a good American policy.
01:00:37.000There is no justice in America and prosecutors should know it's open season on the slaves, already with the biggest prison population in the world.
01:00:45.000Big news on Fukushima coming up and the increased radiation levels in Japan but also here in North America.
01:01:26.000Or, or, or, or, if your, your, uh, if the school officials are obsessive, compulsive, uh, vegans, then they're going to try to make your kids vegans.
01:01:36.000And the point is they're now mommy and daddy in these public schools.
01:01:39.000Well, they're going to have to force them to give them, give organic.
01:01:42.000Um, in Chicago, Um, the warning is maybe, uh, you can't place your bag lunch anywhere without having it secured.
01:01:49.000Because I've been in the Catholic school and I found proof in the lunch school box where we're not supposed to be there and, um, anything can happen to you.
01:02:01.000Predators, there are a lot of great people that want to teach children and help them, but then there's also the predators, want to be truancy officers, want to be priests, want to be teachers, want to be Boy Scout leaders, because they're perverts, and we've got to remember that.
01:02:17.000But notice the system's trying to make it where they've got full control of your kids.
01:02:21.000I got about six points to cover in about two minutes.
01:02:25.000First of all, LA Times and Sacramento Bee on March 21st or 22nd, there's a very good article on Diablo Canyon and the emergency pumps being out for 16 months.
01:02:36.000I don't really know what you're talking about there.
01:02:40.000Oh, you're talking about the radiation meters?
01:02:44.000No, that's our nuclear reactor on a fault.
01:02:48.000They found, our Lieutenant Governor came on earlier than that, and announced that he discovered that the posts have been not... Well, if the reactor blows up, people ought to be thankful.
01:02:59.000Radiation makes you not get cancer, Ann Coulter said so.
01:03:48.000And then the next thing is in the death toll in Japan.
01:03:54.000Thank you so much for hollering the third day about being the 10,000 because they were giving me a stroke when they were going, oh, 250 dead, 30 missing, like that.
01:04:07.000I hear you, sir, and I appreciate your call, Nick.
01:04:10.000We're going to come back and try to hurry through the calls.
01:04:12.000And I'm glad to hear from you, Nick, but we've got to have the callers on a minute or two just to hear your points and move on because there's like 20 points.
01:04:23.000These are government crisis management techniques to always lowball the number of dead and then later people don't hear about it when it's 30,000 dead.
01:04:34.000Or to early on, when everybody's paying attention to a story, say there is no radiation, or it's very low, no big deal.
01:04:40.000So then when it's seven and a half million times safe levels, eh, that's a month later.
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01:08:13.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:08:19.000We are live and now into our number two.
01:08:22.000Continuing with your phone calls and Webster Griffin Tarpley, historian and economist, will join us on Bretton Woods 2 and George Soros' announcement that the dollar is already not the world reserve currency.
01:08:33.000And the consensus from the meeting of top globalists in New Hampshire is that they are going to move towards getting rid of the dollar and giving more power to the bankers that have engineered the implosion.
01:08:44.000Also, gold hits record on euros, silver jumps to 31 year top.
01:08:50.000Also, more reports coming out about honeybees dying all over the world.
01:08:53.000The government's answer is, hey, no big deal.
01:08:57.000Not just in Chicago, but other school districts are moving to say parents cannot bring school lunches.
01:09:02.000Parents cannot be trusted to pack the lunches.
01:09:05.000Only, only, The school can be trusted.
01:09:09.000Also, the Supreme Court has ruled that prosecutors are allowed to frame you, knowing you're innocent, and withhold evidence of your innocence.
01:09:48.000I want to thank you for being a true patriot.
01:09:51.000The thing I'm calling about, I'm appalled as to how Japan is handling this nuclear problem here.
01:09:58.000In my company, our company that supplies zeolite, they could have easily Yeah, for those that don't know, that's a type of rock formation that absorbs radioactivity.
01:10:13.000They dumped a lot of it on Chernobyl, and it's one of the most effective things to basically neutralize it and encapsulate it, but that's not happening.
01:10:31.000Well that's because the state, finally the governor for the Fukushima Prefecture as you know, has come out and said the government's lied.
01:10:38.000I'm going to cover that, but for folks that don't know what this rock formation is, explain to them what it does.
01:10:46.000Well, what it does is it ionically absorbs the radiation like the cesium that was, you know, around the plant there.
01:10:52.000That would have, you know, contained that.
01:10:53.000They could have then, you know, got that and dumped it, you know, somewhere where it would have been under control, even with the water that was spilled out into the ocean there.
01:11:01.000You know, they could have treated it with the zeolite where it would have absorbed.
01:11:04.000You know, the radiation there to a great degree.
01:11:07.000And for folks that don't know, that's even recommended by the IAEA, but they've never recommended it to Japan.
01:11:14.000What Japan did with the hundreds of thousands of fuel rods blown hither and yon, according to the New York Times, as far as a mile away, it brings a new kicker to the point of sweeping it under the rug.
01:11:26.000They just had bulldozers cover the spent fuel rods that will continue to leach into the soil and water.
01:11:33.000And even, you know, like they fed it to the reindeer, the people in the Ukraine around Chernobyl, because it was probably the only thing that prevented millions of people from dying at that point.
01:11:46.000And again, as people see on the television, there's no real indication that you're receiving this radiation.
01:11:54.000Well, I mean, you would think that the Pentagon, who's pulled back 200 miles from Fukushima three and a half weeks ago, would be honest with us about what radiation readings they're getting.
01:12:03.000But if you notice in all the news, we're only getting state and local radiation increase readings and testing of milk and food.
01:12:10.000We're not getting any of this from the federal government.
01:12:12.000It's local independent government agencies and private groups that are doing it.
01:12:17.000So the cover-up in Japan is the same policy here in the United States and it's ongoing.
01:12:24.000But I've got quotes from our media, ABC News experts and others saying it's now contained, the crisis is over.
01:12:41.000So, again, they're going to have to put it on there eventually.
01:12:44.000And as you said on one of your shows there, when you saw that mushroom cloud, you know, from the explosion, you knew that it was a done deal.
01:12:51.000At that point, they had to take some drastic action.
01:12:54.000We even tried to contact the State Department here to You know, to help us, you know, with the shipment of this over there and what have you.
01:13:02.000But, uh, it's all sort of gone on deaf ears.
01:13:04.000But, you know... I mean, where are the thousands of U.S.
01:13:07.000helicopters and personnel who could do one pass apiece?
01:13:10.000Well, they say the radiation's too high, but they won't give us the numbers.
01:13:13.000They should have had helicopters day one dumping the zeolite on top of it.
01:13:27.000You know, it's not really my department and the company, you know, to be dealing with this, but I was off today, so I was able to sit and listen to you again.
01:13:35.000Mike, let me expand on that, because everything's fine.
01:13:38.000The EPA put out a report last week that they've now raised, and I'm directly linking through to them via this article, American EU Agree Raise Radiation Levels for Food, and everything's fine.
01:13:52.000It says that The new standards would result in nearly a 1,000 fold increase for exposure to strontium-90, a 3,000 to 100,000 fold hike for exposure to iodine-131, and almost a 25,000 percent rise for exposure to radioactive nickel-63, all the things being found here.
01:15:43.000No, but I am representing 1,500 architects and engineers who are calling for a new investigation of World Trade Center 7 and Buildings 1 and 2.
01:15:51.000I didn't know that Richard Gage called in.
01:15:55.000Another person who said six years ago that 7 fell at free fall and they denied it and now admit it.
01:16:01.000So what if the building fell at free fall?
01:16:02.000So what if there was a 10 second countdown and explosion blast points and police saying get back we're going to blow it up on CNN?
01:16:13.000We fortunately have been able to wake up well over a couple of thousand architects and engineers throughout the country, and we're on a Midwest tour.
01:16:22.000My event coordinators wanted me to give you a quick update, Alex.
01:16:26.000We're going to be in Munster, Indiana tonight.
01:16:31.000at the Center for Visual Performing Arts and then tomorrow night in Peoria at the Lakeview Museum.
01:16:37.000Why should people want to hear from 1,500 architecture engineers, some of them at the top of their field, proving there were explosives in the buildings?
01:17:04.000People in Minneapolis, for instance... Did you just call the government liars because the White House regulations are that that should be an arrestable offense?
01:17:12.000Are you trying to discredit this government and the wartime...
01:17:19.000All right, I'm going to stop being sarcastic.
01:17:21.000Richard Gage, tell us a little bit about architects and engineers.
01:17:41.000With 47,000, with 40,000 tons of structural steel in it, a building like Building 7 can't fall at free fall acceleration straight down uniformly, symmetrically into its own footprint.
01:17:54.000A building wasn't even hit by an airplane.
01:17:57.000Next you're going to say up is down and down is up, Richard!
01:18:41.000We'll be in Minneapolis on Thursday, 4-14 at the Continuing Education and Conference Center.
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01:24:25.000Then I will get into the latest radiation news.
01:24:27.000But think about them taking all these different radioactive isotopes, now building up in the U.S., in the produce, in the milk, in 17 states.
01:24:36.000It's local states and universities that are finding this.
01:24:40.000And the feds' response is, well, we'll just raise it 100,000-fold in one isotope, 3,000-fold in another, 24,900-and-something-fold in another, 1,000-fold in another.
01:25:22.000By the way, Jesse Ventura is going to be on Coast to Coast AM tonight for the first hour, and then yours truly is on for the next two, maybe three.
01:26:38.000I wanted to relate to a recent conversation I had with a neighbor of mine who is an Iraq-Afghanistan New World Order expansion of their empire veteran.
01:26:49.000But before I get to that, I just wanted to say real quick, you know, I've told people if you want to know who owns things, Try driving that vehicle that you have without those stickers they require on your windshield or your license.
01:27:11.000And speaking of that, I was talking to this guy and I was talking to him about the Middle East situation that's going on, specifically Libya.
01:27:21.000And he mentioned when he was in Iraq and Afghanistan that a lot of times they would have to kill these kids because they, you know, were wired with, you know, bombs, etc.
01:27:31.000And I was saying this on the heels of telling him what you had pointed out about Rush Limbaugh's comments about war and how off he is on that.
01:27:39.000And, you know, the thing is, I said, well, what would we do, you know, if we were invaded like that?
01:27:44.000You know, wouldn't kids be doing the same thing with their parents' training and behest?
01:28:07.000He said, you know, My superiors told us about these so-called videos they found in the caves in Afghanistan when we were there of Osama Bin Laden just in pristine condition.
01:28:18.000But he said, the thing is, I came to realize from that that Osama Bin Laden is one of us because those caves, we destroyed them.
01:28:26.000So it was impossible for them to find these videos that they put out there in the news media saying it's Osama Bin Laden.
01:28:33.000So, you know, thank God that's somebody who's... Well listen, listen, it's confirmed that Anwar al-Awlaki, now the operational commander of Al-Qaeda, gets his orders from the Pentagon and hangs out there secretly.
01:28:47.000Do they have low-level soldiers that don't know who they're fighting for, just like our soldiers think they're fighting for America and not the globalists?
01:28:53.000It's the same But how many troops have called in?
01:28:57.000How many news items have admitted that they tell the troops you're in an Al Qaeda area?
01:29:01.000troops have never been here and they see U.S.
01:29:14.000troops actually captured 8,000 Taliban al-Qaeda, quote, cream, Times of London, uh, Newsweek Magazine, they were ordered to release them and pay them in gold.
01:32:15.000What does a pilot do when the helicopter engine fails in flight?
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01:33:38.000He's got to jump on a subway here in about 15 minutes, so he's going to be leaving us very, very soon.
01:33:42.000But I wanted to get him on dealing with the latest Libya developments.
01:33:46.000He's got some new key intel on the al-Qaeda forces.
01:33:48.000Even the Wall Street Journal admits commanding the rebels from the east with U.S., NATO, and British command.
01:33:55.000CIA in place with their old comrades al-Qaeda.
01:34:00.000We also want to get into the French grabbing Bagbo, the president, backing the rebels who they admit have been slaughtering people with enjoyment.
01:34:10.000So helping the humanitarian slaughter, just like the UN honcho, the 800,000 murdered in 1994 in Rwanda.
01:34:27.000growth forecast on oil, lackluster job space.
01:34:31.000George Soros has announced that they have a consensus from Bretton Woods, too, that the dollar is no longer the World Reserve currency.
01:34:37.000They're going to move away from it to a new basket of Ponzi scheme.
01:34:42.000And that the consensus is that, yes, they're going to do this.
01:34:45.000Of course, you can't believe anything out of Soros' mouth, but monitoring Bloomberg, they were there on site over the weekend, marching the globalists through, celebrating what they've done.
01:34:55.000So, Webster, briefly, on the economic front, what's your take on what's happening with commodities rising so much?
01:35:05.000We are, of course, in a world economic depression, and we're still in the second phase of it still.
01:35:10.000We're in the European banking collapse phase of this Great Depression.
01:35:15.000If you compare it to the depression of 1929 to 1933, we're still seeing European banking systems blow up.
01:35:23.000We've seen Portugal blow up in the last week or so.
01:35:27.000And, of course, the bailouts that are being arranged are not bailouts of Greece or Portugal or Ireland.
01:35:32.000They are the bailouts of London, Paris, and Frankfurt banks that have bought the bonds of these countries.
01:35:39.000And as for Soros, I think there's a tremendous amount of demagogy and smoke and mirrors with him.
01:35:49.000I think in some ways he's trying to occupy a public space.
01:35:53.000There ought to be a debate about world monetary reform, but he can't do it.
01:35:59.000And when you get down to this question of reserve currency, here's what you've got to come up with.
01:36:03.000And you can't just pull this out of your nose from one day to the next.
01:36:07.000You've got to have something comparable to the U.S.
01:36:29.000It's the deepest, broadest, And most liquid market in the world, and it could of course be actually a national asset instead of being a plaything for speculators, which it is.
01:36:38.000But if you want to have a reserve currency, you've got to have something that can do the same thing.
01:36:43.000So a central bank could come and say, look, here's two trillion of securities, we want cash and we want it now, within two hours.
01:36:50.000Nobody in the world can give you that.
01:36:52.000The Europeans don't have it, the Japanese, nobody comes close.
01:36:55.000So if you're saying, get rid of the dollar, what you're really saying is go towards a situation where there is no world reserve currency.
01:37:05.000And maybe that fits together with... And then they admit, yes, then they're gonna have this new global regulatory system that...
01:37:11.000Plays those markets and plays them off against each other with their inside knowledge, further consolidating power and that's exactly what they said in their buzzwords.
01:37:19.000Shifting gears in the same topic area, then we'll look at the geopolitical military operations expanding through AFRICON in Africa as you predicted two years ago in the Obama deception.
01:37:30.000You said that would be the new military move first by Brzezinski and the Anglo-American system through the left cover Obamanoids.
01:37:39.000But Iceland has rejected the Bankster shakedown, so the British government is talking about trying to seize accounts, lawsuits against the government, though it's been admitted in Iceland now for over a year, that all of those debts, over 95% of them, were owed by the private bankers and derivatives.
01:37:56.000This is not the debt of the Irish, or the Icelanders, or the people in Portugal.
01:38:04.000The latest development, the government of Reykjavik has said, no, we're not turning our people into debt slaves and Britannia is coming after them.
01:38:14.000I say hats off to the people of Iceland.
01:38:16.000It's a gallant little country, a couple of hundred thousand people.
01:38:19.000They're under attack by a much larger country, Great Britain, joined by the Dutch, joined by the European Union, the Second International, and all the rest of them.
01:38:29.000The leaders that they have inside the country are generally a very bad pack of characters, especially the socialists, who are really the socialists are the ones who are Most eager to give in to the IMF, but it's a resistance movement in the population against finance oligarchs and against finance capital.
01:38:48.000And that is, to put it mildly, what we need here in this country over the weekend.
01:38:53.000We've had the Republicans bringing forward the demands of Wall Street and the financial community, and Obama trying to find ways to capitulate.
01:39:02.000And his capitulation on the weekend, surrendering on this budget stuff, this was one of the things he did was to destroy $1.5 billion of funding for fast rail.
01:39:41.000He's got the left cover because he's the Democrat, and so they're making it class warfare against the social safety net, that even if you totally removed it, explain briefly as an economist the numbers, it would do nothing to the 1.5 quadrillion in derivatives.
01:39:56.000So they're scapegoating it as a resource war, as we just saw a few months ago with Bill Gates admitting, hey, you hire 10 teachers when you kill grandma.
01:40:07.000They're really setting the stage to play us off against each other.
01:40:11.000And remember, the historical experience from Germany 1930 to 1932, to Schwarzenegger, to everybody else, the more you cut the budget under depression conditions, and that's where we are, you cut the budget under depression conditions, your deficit grows.
01:40:27.000Next year it will all be worse because of what's been destroyed.
01:40:30.000And of course the human toll in the meantime is very large.
01:40:34.000Obama, by the way, told people what he would do.
01:40:37.000He gave an interview to the Washington Post editorial board in the week before his inauguration where he said very clearly, you know, I've been talking about hope and change and that's all a bunch of baloney in effect.
01:40:47.000I'm going to attack Medicare, I'm going to attack Social Security.
01:41:44.000And that they're going to basically have austerity, but then they even admitted the problem is all the big megabanks are insolvent and are basically zombies, but that they can't break them up so that they're just going to go ahead with this program.
01:42:01.000And the final point that was so frightening about it was that they seemed to be very, very pleased with what was happening.
01:42:10.000Well, certainly the big impulse to do something to attack Wall Street, which was very, very clear in 2007, 2008, 2009, has essentially been blunted by Obama.
01:42:24.000He has run a counterinsurgency operation of massive proportions.
01:42:29.000So the entire attempt to do something, for example, to ban certain kinds of derivatives, ban credit default swaps, ban the collateralized debt obligations, the things that did the most damage in September and October of 2008, that is, of course, that has gone nowhere.
01:42:46.000The financial regulation bill was dictated by the banks themselves with the help of Barney Frank.
01:42:52.000We've got to shift gears now, Webster, because we've only got it for this one segment.
01:42:57.000But in the final equation, we're scapegoating welfare moms and old people and seniors.
01:43:04.000Instead of talking about the trillion-pound gorilla in the living room, the trillion-pound elephant, the bankers, the banker takeover.
01:43:11.000That's the big issue, but Americans are really starting to get it.
01:43:14.000Now, specifically on Libya, you've got some new developments there.
01:43:19.000What we're seeing, I think, is that the rebels in Libya are simply militarily incompetent, and they are so inferior to Qaddafi's forces that I don't think they can hold on, even with the NATO airstrikes.
01:43:32.000I think there's a very good possibility that we'll reach a choice point here where it's going to be either watch the rebels get wiped out, and it just means militarily defeated, really not much more than that.
01:43:45.000Or have an actual land invasion, a ground invasion.
01:43:49.000You see that there's, the thinking in NATO, coming from Rasmussen, the head of NATO, is that the partition of Libya is a good goal.
01:43:56.000He says there has to be a political solution, there's no military solution.
01:44:00.000That's NATO speak, but we want to carve the country in half.
01:44:04.000Unfortunately for Obama, for Sarkozy, and for Cameron, they are so committed in their demagogy to getting rid of Qaddafi that they may not be able to Accept it, but the big thing is the inferiority of the rebels on the ground.
01:44:18.000Remember, a lot of these people are from Al-Qaeda.
01:44:20.000They are people who have done guerrilla warfare against the U.S.
01:44:23.000in Iraq and Afghanistan, and killed a lot of our soldiers.
01:44:28.000But what they're not up for is a kind of conventional war, more or less, where they have to go up against another army, and they're out in the open.
01:44:36.000And you see that they simply Interesting is also the hatred of the United States and NATO and even Turkey among the rebels is extreme.
01:44:48.000They should control it, right, for their own interest.
01:44:50.000They should hide what they really think.
01:44:53.000They're holding demonstrations condemning NATO, condemning the US, complaining, whining that the airstrikes are not enough.
01:45:02.000What it simply shows is that these people are from al-Qaeda, many of them, and they really hate the United States, and they should cover that up, but they can't.
01:45:12.000And by the way, Webster, just to briefly interrupt, you said over a month ago that they would try to carve the country in two, but then the arrogance and the bravada of the Western leaders and the demonization of Gaddafi would probably lead towards ground troops.
01:45:47.000Well, the smaller NATO countries, right, be it the Italians or the Dutch or the other components of the NATO command, would like the rebels to do this for them.
01:45:55.000But what I think we're seeing is the rebels can't do it.
01:45:58.000They can't hold on, even in Cyrenaica.
01:46:00.000The other interesting thing today is this African Union delegation trying to have a ceasefire, which I think is the immediate demand.
01:46:24.000You had the president of Congo, Uganda, Mali, Mauritania, and...
01:46:30.000South Africa, I guess that makes five presidents meeting with Gaddafi, and Gaddafi accepted their peace plan, and if you turn the TV on, well, those guys, they don't count.
01:46:39.000You're lucky if they even tell you their name.
01:46:41.000The racist overtones of this thing are amazing because one of the demands But that's humanitarian, Webster, just like the French troops in Ivory Coast helping protect the rebels that are admittedly slaughtering men, women, and children with machetes.
01:46:54.000who are the ones who have been slaughtered, they've been lynched in Benghazi, in Dharna, in Tobruk, and the other rebel cities.
01:47:03.000But that's humanitarian, Webster, just like the French troops in Ivory Coast helping protect the rebels that are admittedly slaughtering men, women, and children with machetes.
01:47:24.000This is a new kind of imperialism, and what you saw yesterday was the French and the United Nations actively trying to kill Jabhat Al-Baghdadi.
01:47:34.000And the interesting story here is that the president that the French Sarkozy wants to install is this Ouattara.
01:47:41.000He is, of course, a Moslem from the North, but above all, he's an official of the International Monetary Fund.
01:47:48.000And if you want to see it in terms of the global alliance of the CIA with the Moslem Brotherhood, and indeed with their property, Al-Qaeda, it's interesting to note that the guy who's now going to be maybe put on trial, he's lucky if he's alive today, Gbagbo, right in the South, that's a Christian with a lot of popular support.
01:49:56.000I think the great danger now is that That the demagogues, the Obamas, the Sarkozy's, and the Camerons will prevail and say, we now have to send in our Marines, our special forces, and save the rebels on the ground.
01:50:10.000And that of course will then be a full scale war.
01:50:14.000That's Obama's fourth war, which is what he's got right now.
01:50:18.000So it's important for people to say no to this.
01:50:21.000And if you simply ended these wars, you'd have about Yeah, but killing a million Iraqis, that's humanitarian.
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01:55:37.000Every person you wake up is one step closer to defeating the globalists.
01:55:42.000And you heard the listener earlier who was talking to an Iraq, um, Afghanistan veteran.
01:55:49.000He saw Terror Storm and totally woke up.
01:56:15.000I saw him last night in Evanston, Illinois.
01:56:17.000His presentation gets more polished every time I see him.
01:56:20.000But getting to the meat, what I wanted to bring up about this nuclear business, I'm sure that you're already aware of this, but I haven't heard this thrown out into the media of late, And that is the law called the Price Anderson Act.
01:56:59.000For over 40 years they've had liability protection so they can kill you, hurt you, and can't get in trouble because of a federal law there as well.
01:57:11.000In Jesse's new book, The 63 Documents, I was paging through it and I saw that one document that had been gotten by ThinkProgress about the Koch Brothers organization of trying to thwart I appreciate your call.
01:57:26.000And the Koch brothers, as you probably know, have been demonized by the leftist press, like media matters, etc., of late.
01:57:34.000And I was wondering if you could delve into exactly if this is just a case of demonization or if the Koch brothers are really in on the New World Order or just what the hell is going on.
01:57:49.000I wasn't allowed to ship it out, but we had these books a month ago, and that was the one document that I thought was the only part of the book I didn't really like, but there's 63 of them, and it exposes Democrats, it exposes Republicans, and Dick Russell, we'll get Dick Russell on, the author, because he's the guy that wrote most of it, with Jesse Ventura, and as Jesse said last week here on the show, And that's kind of a cause celeb thing to attack is the Koch brothers.
01:58:19.000I don't think they're perfect, but they are kind of like mainline Republican slash neocons who do promote some free market things.
01:58:27.000I mean, compared to George Soros, they're angel cakes, but they're definitely part of the left-right paradigm.
01:58:32.000We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.
02:00:09.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
02:00:13.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:00:19.000We're already working on getting Dick Russell, the co-author with Jesse Ventura, of 63 documents the government doesn't want you to read.
02:00:25.000And I would call him, from many perspectives, kind of a classical mainline liberal.
02:00:30.000And of the 63 documents, the only one in here, and I think it's all still informative, that I don't really agree with being put in the book, and we sell the book and promote the book, is the Koch Industries document.
02:00:52.000And it goes on to say, you know, join us twice a year for our network of leaders trying to promote a free society.
02:01:00.000And then you read the code, attracting principal leaders and investors who will effectively defend our free society.
02:01:06.000Sharing best practices and opportunities to defend our free enterprise system from destructive public policies.
02:01:11.000Fashioning The message in building the education channels to re-establish widespread belief in the beliefs of the principles of the free and prosperous society.
02:01:20.000Compare this to Cass Sunstein and his memos.
02:01:29.000The Koch brothers, from what I've read of these meetings, put out a lot of really good information.
02:01:35.000See, this document comes from ThinkProgress, you notice, which is George Soros connected.
02:01:40.000And they just don't like it that there are some old-lying conservatives that are out there putting a little bit of their money into resisting the globalists.
02:01:47.000They resist with a Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity type thing that, you know, torture's good, drug war's good, wars are good, just don't raise my taxes.
02:02:00.000And so, all this sounds really great what the Koch brothers are doing, it's just kind of silly when you realize that they're not really implementing this stuff.
02:02:12.000And it's even more silly than when you read the book, and this one little document of 63, it's a few pages, that you read all this stuff and most of it sounds like really great ideas, ooh, dirty, bad, but then you read the stuff coming out of George Soros, And the stuff being pushed by the, quote, left arm of the globalists.
02:02:31.000People always ask me, are you a conservative or are you a liberal?
02:03:39.000And so when we get, and guys remind me if I forget when he's on, when we get Dick Russell on the next few weeks, because we were already lining that up, in fact maybe we'll try to get him this week, I will commend him on most of the book, but I didn't want a you know what in the punch bowl when Ventura was on and even get to this, because I mean, this is like a shout out, kind of like a bone to kind of mainline liberals.
02:03:59.000Their religion is shaking under their tables and beds at night, afraid of the Koch brothers and mainline Republicans shaking under their bed from the Muslims they're going to get them.
02:04:11.000But George Soros and all his funded groups, I mean, they're just mad that somebody's out there not going 100% on their agenda.
02:04:18.000And there's become kind of a fight between the Koch brothers, Fox News, against, and vice versa, with the Obamanoid Hillary Clinton, Clintonista, I mean, the issue is, if you follow the real policies of Democrats, it's communism to transfer your wealth to the international fascist system.
02:04:36.000See, communism delivers to the fascists, not communism and fascism fighting with each other.
02:04:42.000Cameras, black uniforms, secret police, high taxes on the general public.
02:07:55.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
02:08:04.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
02:08:11.000Talkers Magazine is the prestigious, and there's a lot of good ones out there, inside baseball, talk radio, publication of decades, and I was on the cover of last month's Talkers, and I'm the keynote speaker at the two-day event, but I was noticing in New York on June 10th and 11th, I'm the keynote speaker Saturday,
02:08:37.000And it says that the evening before there's the 8 to 10 p.m.
02:08:44.000I guess you've got to get drunk before you meet Sean Hannity.
02:08:48.000And then I guess after he gets off Fox News he comes over there 10 to midnight.
02:08:52.000Sean Hannity will be hosting dessert party.
02:08:58.000Needless to say, ladies and gentlemen, I'll probably be in Little Italy or something that night getting some good food.
02:09:03.000Not that I don't want to be around all these radio people, and I'm honored to be going and being the keynote speaker, but they've got me there to explain why I'm exploding, and most of these other talk show hosts are imploding, and it's simple.
02:09:17.000You know, we had an earlier caller, and I get a lot of these calls, am I a left winger or a right winger?
02:11:00.000The founders were not for any of that.
02:11:03.000And so when you get down to real policies, except for football issues, they pass back and forth, gay marriage and stuff, there's no difference, not a dime's worth of difference.
02:11:13.000And so that's where I stand on all of this.
02:11:15.000But on actual issues, you read the Republican Party platform of Texas for two decades or more, I agree with about 98% of it.
02:11:24.000It sounds like something Ron Paul wrote.
02:12:09.000But just go in there to learn and bumble around with these people.
02:12:14.000But I will imagine that it's going to be like they're basically inviting, in their view, the Wicked Witch to the Lollipop Guild meeting.
02:12:23.000Of course, from my perspective, there'll be many Wicked Witches there, and I'm from the Lollipop Guild.
02:12:29.000But we're going to see what happens at this event.
02:12:33.000But I mean, it's the CEOs of Clear Channel, Premier, all the big networks, CBS, NBC, Jones Broadcasting, all of them are going to be there.
02:12:45.000And I've been told by the folks at Head Up Talkers, they've got a lot of requests for me to be there.
02:12:49.000So why I'm being invited to this, we're going to discover.
02:12:55.000It's because of our incredible meteoric explosion.
02:13:13.000Not as to the internet, but because people are so sick of partisan-driven politics.
02:13:17.000I guess what Talker says, it says, Alex Jones Keynote.
02:13:23.000And it says, Alex Jones will serve as the keynote speaker at the New Media Seminar 2011.
02:13:26.000He will share insights into internet success and suggest alternative approaches to issues taught programming on terrestrial radio outside rigid partisan formats.
02:14:06.000I predict after you give your speech in New York that radio in this country will never be the same again, because I believe you'll be creating a cadre of followers, of radio broadcaster followers.
02:14:21.000We're going to imitate your success, which will be a good thing, even if they're not sincere about it.
02:14:27.000So I think... No, I mean, I've been told that's what they, that's why I'm requested, is that they're basically like Glenn Beck did, going to take a lot of what I do and then basically twist it into whatever they want.
02:14:38.000But I think some of them will actually wake up and go all the way.
02:14:42.000Well, I think a good portion, if any of them have any intelligence at all, and they look at all the research that you've done over all these many years, As well as all of your guests, your esteemed guests that you've had on over these many years.
02:14:57.000I'll see that it's all 99.9% accurate.
02:15:03.000So I really do think it'll be transformational and it'll really change things in this country from that point going forward.
02:15:12.000On another point, I actually have two more quick points.
02:15:17.000Regarding Beck, I found him just to be entirely unwatchable.
02:15:22.000And I just couldn't follow what he was saying.
02:15:25.000He would change his logic from one broadcast to the next.
02:15:30.000Well, that's why the main reason they said they canned him was that it was a confused message.
02:15:36.000And, I mean, one minute he's talking about myself in imaginary triple X Disease type stuff that I can't even describe in the next minute how he's our spiritual leader and Paul Revere I mean, I'm sorry folks.
02:15:53.000He just doesn't make sense Yeah, his behavior was at times very bizarre And I also found it despicable that he wouldn't allow you to appear and I would imagine it was a judge Napolitano show I found that really like low and like it showed his true character in my opinion Well, what I was told previous on other shows is Glenn Beck doesn't like you being on here.
02:16:18.000I'm not going to say the name of the, it's multiple shows.
02:16:21.000And then other ones where he'll come after producers if they do.
02:16:24.000And then I had multiple guests say, well, Glenn Beck, I first came on your show, but now I want to, you know, I was going to go on his and I was in the green room and he said, listen, don't go on Alex Jones anymore or I'm not going to have you on here anymore.
02:16:36.000Uh, and so he definitely, that's the whole point behind the scenes.
02:16:46.000He's threatened because he basically needs to get rid of me or suppress my rise so that the bonafide, real McCoy, real product doesn't show up what he's doing.
02:17:00.000I mean, it's real simple business from his perspective.
02:17:03.000And, you know, trying to block me from going on Fox, trying to do things like that, it shows that he basically is watching our every move.
02:17:15.000Yeah, but it also shows that he doesn't have any real message of his own.
02:17:19.000And we out here in the listening and viewing world, we can see right through that.
02:17:24.000And I think most people will see through that, and that's why you saw his demise.
02:17:59.000That's because he's an effeminate fairy and he knows it.
02:18:03.000Yeah, I mean, and it was very, you know, it was just immature.
02:18:08.000It was meaningless garble is the way I saw it.
02:18:12.000Well, he was starting to do some good with people like Jebra Griffin on, but that's done in desperation to get the Liberty market as they see it.
02:18:23.000And my last point is that you had mentioned that you have, on one of your last shows, you had said that many congressmen tune in to listen to your show during the lunchtime.
02:18:34.000And I thought, you know, I was thinking, in light of all the overwhelming evidence that you and your guests have compiled regarding the treasonous activities of so many who have falsely claimed the label of American citizen, don't you think this would be a good time for these congressmen to come forward And to begin the process of seeking prosecution of these traitors?
02:18:57.000Well, I had Bruce Fine, the big constitutional lawyer, endorsed by Ron Paul on.
02:19:02.000He's circulating articles of impeachment.
02:19:04.000And I have had a lot of congressmen on over the years, you know, who during the break will say, yeah, I listen to you on this station or that station, or we listen to you over the internet at the Capitol.
02:19:12.000In fact, I'm having one of those moments.
02:19:13.000Who was the congressman from Tennessee?
02:19:14.000I know he listens almost every day when he's in the district.
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02:24:04.000I don't like sitting here talking bad about Glenn Beck, but he is leading his listeners into a dead end or over the edge of a cliff.
02:24:11.000We're trying to get people to not follow us, but to wake up, see the world through their own eyes, but to start really questioning what's happening, and then to get involved however you see fit.
02:24:19.000We're going up a mountain against the enemy.
02:24:25.000And, you know, as for calling Glenn Beck an effeminate fairy, pull up Urban Dictionary, a male who acts slightly feminine but not necessarily means that they are gay.
02:24:35.000And I'm not saying he's bad, whatever Glenn Beck's into.
02:24:39.000The point is that watching him, seeing him, seeing him doing acting lessons on YouTube, he just prances around and twinkle eyes and comes off like a theater teacher or something.
02:24:58.000It's just, it's hard to not talk about him when I get compared to him so much for the political information I've been covering for 16 years.
02:25:04.000He's been anti-New World Order for three Macs.
02:25:07.000And I wish that he was a good guy, and I'm tired of talking about him.
02:25:17.000I don't dislike people for whatever, you know, floats their boat.
02:25:21.000The issue is Glenn Beck's attacked me because Charlie Sheen had gotten off drugs and he was there with nurses and people at his house and invited me out there to help him stay sober.
02:25:32.000I was like, you're working out, you're gaining weight.
02:26:29.000It's just, you know, you get to be friends with somebody, you care about them.
02:26:32.000Charlie's gone through a hard time and it's painful to see all the things he's going through and now I've gone off into Charlie Sheen because we never got Charlie on here six years ago because, oh look, a celebrity, you know, is talking about how they like to play golf.
02:26:47.000We got him on because he contacted us and he wanted to come on air and talk about 9-11.
02:26:50.000And I know Charlie's a good guy and I am praying for him.
02:26:57.000The rabbit hole goes deeper and deeper.
02:26:58.000tell you that right now all right enough of that uh extra in idaho you're on the air go ahead uh yeah it's uh something pretty important here uh the rabbit hole goes deeper and deeper um what i'm about to tell you will paint a pretty clear picture of the current cover-up going on with fukushima uh now between 1957 and 64 in a town called simi valley california only 20 minutes from downtown los angeles
02:27:24.000a sodium reactor experiment was an experimental nuclear reactor which operated from 57 to 64 and was the first commercial power plant in the world to experience a core meltdown There was a decade-long cover-up by the U.S.
02:27:40.000The detail of the disposal was not recorded because they didn't have any disposal techniques then because it was so predated.
02:27:47.000And it looks like there's still thousands of pounds of this sodium coolant that are unaccounted for still.
02:27:53.000Yeah, well, I was not aware of that, but I know they've got several experimental reactors here in Austin that almost nobody knows about, even though they're admittedly there.
02:28:00.000Give me the name of the reactor in the event or the name of the news article, the headlines, so we can pull that up.
02:28:48.000They lied about Three Mile Island, they lied about Chernobyl, and now they admittedly have lied about this, and the radiation's going up in the U.S., and the feds won't release the radiation numbers, and are now raising the safe levels of what they say is safe.
02:28:59.000I mean, it just shows you how out of control these people are.
02:29:15.000I actually found out about it because my brother goes to college and he said that they showed this to him in a class.
02:29:21.000And this is here in America, so if you actually look that up, too, it's pretty brainwashing to talk about... Listen, we'll pull it up, nuclear boy.
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02:33:07.000It's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
02:33:15.000Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaeffer is a U.S.
02:33:17.000Army lieutenant colonel who gained fame for his reports about the federal government mishandling intelligence reports before September 11th attacks and for the censoring of his book Operation Dark Heart.
02:33:31.000And instead of going through his long bio, just know that he ran some of the biggest operations against Al Qaeda and was continually blocked from going after him.
02:33:39.000And now we have Fox News and AP reporting the head of Al Qaeda, the head of operations under the fairy tale creature bin Laden, Amir al-Awlaki hanging out secretly at the Pentagon.
02:33:51.000Al-Qaeda forces, even the Wall Street Journal reports, forming the core cadres from the beginning with British Special Forces and now US CIA backing them up in eastern Libya.
02:34:03.000They've got another Muslim connected to the Muslim Brotherhood with the French invading Ivory Coast and going into the capital and taking out the elected president.
02:34:11.000It's in the BBC that the rebels have reportedly killed thousands with machetes and machine guns.
02:34:18.000Schaefer on a few months ago, he said from being there for years in Afghanistan, his view is We need to get out of there.
02:34:25.000Our country's going bankrupt, and now another war.
02:34:29.000And AFRICOM looks like it's moving fully into Africa.
02:34:32.000I don't know his views on the current operation, but we got him on to talk about the things that are happening and to give us his view on it.
02:34:40.000Colonel Schaefer, good to have you here with us again.
02:34:51.000What's your overall view on what's happening in North Africa, what's happening in Ivory Coast, what's happening in Afghanistan?
02:34:59.000The same tactic of it's always a year more, always a year more?
02:35:05.000Well, I think the bottom line is we have nuclear policy and therefore if you don't really have a policy you really kind of meander around.
02:35:10.000I think AFRICOM, for example, was set up really to be a non-combat command and I think that's what most people really focused on.
02:35:21.000Last year my think tank, Center for Advanced Defense Studies, That I'm the Director of Communications for, had a Hill Conference on AFRICOM and where the focus really was, and I believe most folks thought it should be, is trying to focus on outreach and helping the countries that are autonomous really find their way.
02:35:41.000And what we're, I think, finding is that no one wants to leave them alone and let them do their own thing.
02:35:46.000I think everybody from the West somehow thinks that we know better than them and therefore we need to jump in and try to help them out.
02:35:52.000And I know the liberal community does not want us to do military things there.
02:35:57.000Frankly, I think you probably agree with me on this, we don't really have the resources to do military things there.
02:36:02.000And yet, somehow, we're doing military things there.
02:36:05.000So I think that's the part of the difficulty right now, is that without having a clear idea of what we're doing, we have a tendency to draw ourselves in to these military conflicts.
02:36:15.000And I think what we're seeing in Libya is a prime example.
02:36:19.000And I don't know, Alex, if you track what I said from day one, I felt that we were on a path to Bosnia.
02:36:34.000And now with Ivory Coast, I think we're seeing something very similar where you have two different factions.
02:36:42.000You know, the West involving itself, and don't get me wrong, these nations and the use of machetes and hacking people, I'll never forget the first exposure I had to Ivory Coast was a picture of a guy, of a body, sitting on a curve with blood spurting out of it after the guy's head was rolling on the ground.
02:37:02.000That was the first time I ever saw a picture of Ivory Coast.
02:37:06.000So these people, these tribes, have a deep hate for each other.
02:37:11.000And the idea that we're going to referee and we're going to show them the path to the proper way of doing things, I just don't think we are able to do that.
02:37:21.000We've not been able to do that since we've been there.
02:37:24.000The West has been in Ivory Coast, for example, since the 1880s when Europeans all started pulling apart Africa for their own colonial purposes.
02:37:33.000Yeah, I've read some of the old British history books about that area and how the tribes normally weren't even attacking the Westerners because they were too busy just slaughtering each other 24-7 because they'd been in a thousand-year-plus blood feuds with each other.
02:37:50.000But looking at Libya in the north there, With all of your inside connections, what's really going on there?
02:38:14.000You might have seen my friend Congressman Kurt Weldon's over there right now trying to help get him out of there to go somewhere else.
02:38:21.000And there's the groups from the East who really were loyal to the monarchy.
02:38:27.000And don't forget Alex, you know, 42 years ago when Gaddafi came to power, he dethroned the monarch there.
02:38:33.000And for better or for worse, during those 42 years, Gaddafi used his resources, which are primarily oil-related, to benefit those tribes who were loyal to him, and basically cut off, make life miserable for those who didn't support him, and that included most of these old tribes.
02:38:50.000If you look at just what's going on, the banner, the flag that the rebels are using, is the old monarchy flag.
02:38:56.000So, what we're seeing here, essentially, are groups of tribes, one loyal to Gaddafi, and if you noticed that everything was going well regarding the rebels going until they went to Sirte.
02:39:10.000From Sirte on west, you have a group of towns, for better or for worse, whose tribes have stayed loyal to Gaddafi, because they were benefiting from all the resources.
02:39:19.000And we also have those eastern tribes with these hundreds and hundreds of year old blood feuds.
02:39:26.000The rebels have been caught lining people up, shooting them, cutting them up.
02:39:30.000So the Qaddafi loyal forces don't have a choice but to fight because a lot of them are going to be slaughtered and executed under this new government.
02:39:38.000You were spot on, and that was one of the things that people continue to miss.
02:39:41.000It's not like we're jumping in to help a group of good guys.
02:39:44.000We're going in with, and I know some folks have been upset with me by saying this, but we've chosen sides.
02:39:49.000We've chosen the rebel side without really knowing what we've chosen.
02:39:54.000With that said, what's going on there, obviously, is we were blind there, Alex.
02:40:00.000The brutal truth here Is that our intelligence community is so broken, and the State Department was so diverted doing other things, we had no idea what was going on there.
02:40:09.000But Colonel, if I knew this from studying things five, six, seven years ago, just, you know, because I'm into studying different regions and geopolitical things...
02:40:17.000It's hard to believe that the government and the CIA, I mean, doesn't understand this and hasn't broken down, you know, all the different tribal angles.
02:40:27.000And then I read about the main rebel leader, admittedly was once held in some type of black site, and it brags that he sent al-Qaeda fighters to kill Americans in Iraq.
02:40:40.000I mean, that's all in the mainstream news.
02:40:42.000Right, and I think that's part of the problem here.
02:40:44.000Al-Qaeda, I do believe, whatever you want to call it, has become a franchise, not a real well-organized organization.
02:40:50.000I think that whatever you want to call Al-Qaeda is trying to take advantage of the situation in Libya and other places.
02:40:56.000With that said, I think we're jumping in there for two reasons.
02:41:00.000First, I don't think we know what's going on, so I think out of desperation almost.
02:41:03.000And let me say something that's going to make me probably very unpopular with some of my friends.
02:41:07.000General Clapper, the current Director of National Intelligence, doesn't have a clue about What's going on there, let alone other places.
02:41:13.000So I think there's an old saying, I think it's a Japanese saying, you know, the fish rots from the head.
02:41:18.000I think we have folks who are primarily politicians first, intelligence professionals second, who are running the intelligence community.
02:41:26.000Because as you just pointed out, there are people who track this.
02:41:30.000And I know, I know for a fact there are good There are good men and women in the intelligence community, people like me, who try to do their job and try to say, hey, there's something we need to be paying attention to.
02:41:39.000But if the political winds aren't just so, they're told not to do it.
02:41:43.000So I think you're seeing the outgrowth of our inability to actually look at what is real.
02:41:49.000And so I think you see the administration trying to play catch-up.
02:41:53.000I think, unfortunately, the way the State Department's interpreting all this is an opportunity to jump in with these folks.
02:42:00.000I think it's one of those things where I don't necessarily believe that Gaddafi should stay.
02:42:05.000However, you know, the devil you know is in some ways better than the devil you don't because I think there would be huge ethnic cleansing just like, say it again, Bosnia.
02:42:15.000What happened in the Bosnia-Herzegovina situation.
02:42:42.000But what about this issue of the $34 billion to $37 billion they're saying they're going to give the rebels?
02:42:47.000They're giving the Al-Qaeda mixed group, the Central Bank, the oil company.
02:42:52.000And so if this did go the way Obama and NATO are trying to get it to go, we're going to have a new Islamic
02:43:01.000uh... republic there uh... you've already got the quote quasi-new government uh... in uh... even in the new york times reporting uh... in egypt uh... that is saying they're gonna have just like iran the modesty patrols right and i mean this is uh... coming to you're saying the pentagon the cia and the white house are are really that dumb that they don't know they're about to hand libya over to muslim extremists Well, the alternative is that they know what they're doing, and that makes it even worse.
02:43:28.000I think the bottom line here, and let's talk about Idris for a real quick second, I feel terribly about how we treated President Mubarak.
02:43:35.000I mean, he was no saint, but he did a lot of things to settle that area down.
02:43:40.000Yeah, I understand that that was probably a real legitimate democratic reform movement, The only thing that kept that country together was the Egyptian military which was trained by us for better for worse.
02:43:50.000With that said, we've allowed that to kind of go on and maybe it's best to kind of go in their own direction to figure out what's best for them.
02:44:00.000When you look at Libya, it seems like we've almost pushed things further than they need to be right now because I think the bottom line in Libya, and as you mentioned, we've not paid good attention.
02:44:11.000And Alex, can you imagine the fact that our central bank, the Federal Reserve, loaned the Libyan bank a lot of money during the bailout last year, last few years?
02:44:21.000So it's kind of like, why are we supporting all these folks, and now we're talking about money going to a rebel group who we don't fully understand, we don't know what their loyalty is going to be, and if I were them, I would take the money and do whatever the heck I want, no matter what we think that they're going to do.
02:44:37.000Oh absolutely, but I mean, weapon systems to people?
02:44:43.000I saw that West Point report from a few years ago that just got attention the last two weeks where they broke down that Libya per capita was the greatest deliverer, not Afghanistan, not even Saudi Arabia, to real jihadi al-Qaeda fighters.
02:45:01.000Well that was part of the problem and I was talking to some of my friends down at Central Command and they pointed out to me when this all first started that, you know, we essentially did not go deep enough in trying to understand what Gaddafi was doing during the time he was in power and up until this decade they've still been running training camps in the western part of Libya.
02:45:20.000Training radicals, training terrorists.
02:45:23.000And so they've almost, I think, taken advantage of the fact that they had this capacity to train terrorists and they've become kind of a terrorist training center, if you will.
02:45:31.000And because Gaddafi was smart enough to give up his weapons of mass destruction, at least most of them, he was able to cut a deal for himself.
02:45:37.000So basically, we're still, you know, kind of going in with these despot leaders and still, you know, not really understanding what the end effect is going to be.
02:45:47.000Well, Colonel, what does that say, though, that Mubarak, a 31-year dictator propped up by the West, not saying it's good, but bringing some stability, he's stabbed in the back.
02:47:16.000The problem with the Middle East, though, is that because of our own interest regarding resources, we kept a very heavy boot on, essentially, the throat of a lot of the people.
02:47:25.000And not we so much, but those individuals, those dictators, we worked with.
02:47:31.000And I know this is a harsh thing to say, but it's essentially the truth.
02:47:34.000We, in our own self-interest, sided with the individuals, those leaders of those countries, which treated their people very badly.
02:47:58.000And one of the reasons that they have wanted this Western lifestyle and what a lot of the West stands for is because they don't see us, the U.S., as part of the very restrictive regime there.
02:48:09.000So we are seeing the end results of, I think, some policies which we knew going in may be tough for the long term but we decided to seek short-term goals of trying to seek resources and things to sustain our economy rather than understanding better and trying to deal with the long-term consequences of of unstable of populations which are for better for worse looking to be free well
02:48:34.000looking at the end game here um briefly what would you have done with libya a A. B. Looking at the real policies and this quagmire with the politicians now saying he must go.
02:49:04.000But with that said, first off, I agree 100% with Secretary of Defense Gates that this was ill-advised.
02:49:13.000We just don't have a sufficient knowledge of understanding everything that's going on to jump in.
02:49:19.000If you wanted to do something, if we had to do something, I would have done two things differently than President Obama.
02:49:24.000First, the moment the Arab League said We support the humanitarian aspects, I would have said fine.
02:49:32.000I would have notified Congress, implemented the War Powers Act, I wouldn't have gone to the UN, I would have just acted.
02:49:38.000Set up this no-fly zone, and then, Alex, what I would have done at that point in time is demand Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and other Arab nations step in.
02:50:00.000If you recall recently, within the last few weeks, Qatar actually bragged on itself by saying, well, the Saudis have deposed their own leadership, so we're here.
02:50:08.000So I would have picked Qatar or some other nation to take the lead and make it an Arab force going in there to deal with Arab issues.
02:50:16.000Otherwise, we're the ones who look like an imperial power.
02:50:19.000Instantly, if you recall, right after this all started with our lead, the Arab League said, oh, we didn't know this was going to happen.
02:50:26.000So, you know, we need to get out of the middle of this.
02:50:29.000And then if the Arabs say, well, you've got to help us spread democracy, well, great, then you do it.
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02:55:24.000So I think we need to be much more realistic.
02:55:26.000And for better or for worse, I think Congress needs to have a say in this, since they're the ones who appropriate the money and pay the bills.
02:55:32.000I mean, you still are, you know, in the reserves and can be called up active duty any time, so you can't say much about the Commander-in-Chief.
02:55:38.000But I did have the Constitutional Law Scholar who's circulating the articles of impeachment on the Hill and getting some traction, Mr. Fine, last week.
02:55:47.000And he pointed out that this is Caesar crossing the Rubicon.
02:56:20.000I mean, I'm not a lawyer, but I do study law a little bit.
02:56:23.000I don't understand how it was legal to use that amount of appropriated money.
02:56:27.000And keep in mind, this had to come from somewhere.
02:56:28.000A billion dollars has been spent in the United States' name, in our name, going into to do what we're doing in Libya.
02:56:34.000And I just don't think that congressional leaders have proper ability to assess this.
02:56:40.000And I'm sorry, this is, to me, this is war.
02:56:43.000And I don't know what else to call it when you start using that level of force.
02:56:47.000And you did have military objectives one way or another.
02:56:49.000So anytime you have military objectives, to me, that's a war.
02:56:52.000Congress does the taxes, the spending, the war, and more and more they become ceremonial.
02:56:56.000In closing, how do you see this ending on the current trajectory?
02:57:01.000Well, unfortunately, I see us going, meandering down the path we did with Bosnia.
02:57:05.000Somehow, I believe, unless Gaddafi is able to leave within the next couple of weeks, we're going to be in for a long haul like we did with Bosnia.
02:57:12.000I predict that we may be there for, you know, another five, ten years is the rate we're going, unfortunately.
02:57:17.000And they already launched cruise missiles into his compound.
02:57:20.000I mean, that breaks international law right there, trying to assassinate him, and they say they're not.
02:57:24.000This guy's got a long history of staying dug in.
02:57:53.000I think that's an underreported news area there.
02:57:56.000I think there's a lot more going on than the American people really understand.
02:57:59.000I think it's why the Pentagon now, if you recall, recently has talked about rethinking our departure this coming summer.
02:58:05.000So, the big thing, Alex, and I think you and I would agree on this, we need to agree upon what our national interests really are.
02:58:12.000And then set that up as our policy and go from there.
02:58:15.000And the Congress needs to then come up with that and then hand it to the executive to execute.
02:58:20.000You know, the Congress is like the football coach and the President's the quarterback, but he can't do anything without being handed the play.
02:58:27.000Colonel Shaver, thank you so much for spending time with us with the book Operation Dark Heart.
02:58:31.000We'll talk to you again soon about the Iraq situation.