In the third installment of our interview with Steve R. Pachenik, who worked as a top spymaster in no less than five U.S. administrations, Steve points out that even a black helicopter conspiracy fantasist cannot be called a black helicopter fantasist. And yet, the White House is afraid to address any of the issues that Pchenik has raised over the course of the last two days on the Alex Jones Show.
00:00:29.000I'm your host, Paul Joseph Watson, editor and writer for PrisonPlanet.com, filling in for Alex today.
00:00:36.000And we've got two huge guests coming up over the course of the next 90 minutes to discuss this unraveling Osama Bin Laden fable, both of whom held highly influential positions within the US government and both of whom have vocally savaged this Bin Laden narrative that has been put out by the White House for the fairytale that it is.
00:01:03.000The guests are former Assistant Treasury Secretary under Reagan, Paul Craig Roberts, and of course, the third installment of our interview with Steve R. Pachenik, who worked as a top spymaster in no less than five US administrations.
00:01:22.000Cannot be called a black helicopter conspiracy fantasist, as the Time Magazine article yesterday would have it, of course.
00:01:30.000They're afraid to address any of the issues that Pchenik has raised over the course of the last two days on the Alex Jones Show.
00:01:39.000We've got InfoWars video guru Rob Jacobson coming up live reporting from Ground Zero later on in this, actually in the next segment, as Obama gets ready to pull off his contrived photo op, mimicking how George W. Bush stood on the rubble of the Twin Towers shortly after 9-11.
00:02:00.000And what amounts to basically a desperate PR stunt to contrive a political turnaround for his ailing aspirations to get a second term in the Oval Office.
00:02:13.000Second half of the show will be hosted by Steve Watson and Aaron Dykes and then Alex Jones himself will be calling in from the road to give his take on the unfolding, collapsing, crumbling Bin Laden fable.
00:02:28.000And the Bin Laden hoax really is collapsing now, whether you believe he was killed recently or, you know, he was killed nine years ago, as Pchenik has asserted.
00:02:38.000The fact is that this whole narrative they've manufactured around the alleged raid and assassination of Bin Laden at his compound there in Pakistan, It's totally crumbling to the ground.
00:02:51.000It's beginning to resemble more and more a Jerry Bruckheimer-style Jessica Lynch fable.
00:02:59.000We had the photo of Obama giving the address to the nation on Sunday night, which appeared the next morning in US newspapers.
00:03:12.000But more importantly, the photos released just a couple of days ago by the White House, the so-called Situation Room photos that people have said depict the, quote, defining moment of Obama's presidency.
00:03:26.000And these were the photos that the mainstream media reported illustrated Obama, Hillary Clinton and their White House security team Grimacing their faces with these stern looks, watching the raid on the Bin Laden compound and watching his assassination unfold live on the big screen in front of them.
00:03:48.000And we've got a photo of those pictures that the White House released that we're showing now.
00:03:54.000And you had this shot of a shocked Hillary Clinton, a hand anxiously over her mouth as if reacting to, you know, some crucial event.
00:04:04.000You had the news telling us that this depicted the moment when, quote, the leader of the free world saw the terror chief shot in the left eye.
00:04:16.000Uh, we were told that this photograph depicted Obama, Clinton and Biden, quote, watching intently as the raid takes place.
00:04:25.000And you had the White House counter-terrorist czar, John Brennan, come out and say that, uh, this was evidence of the fact that...
00:04:32.000Obama and Clinton were provided with quote, ongoing coverage of the raid as it unfolded.
00:04:39.000And so this was told to us as a dramatic part of the Bin Laden narrative and of course it turns out to be a complete hoax, a completely staged fable.
00:04:48.000And we'll be back after the break to detail how this whole Bin Laden fraud is collapsing at warp speed.
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00:08:29.000Paul Craig Roberts coming up at the bottom of the hour and shortly we'll be joined by Rob Jacobson, InfoWars video guru.
00:08:37.000Live from Ground Zero, New York as Obama prepares to descend for his staged photo op.
00:08:44.000And speaking of photo ops, we had the dramatic release of these Situation Room images by the White House a couple of days ago.
00:08:53.000Which the media told us depicted Obama and his staff, including Hillary Clinton, reacting live as the assassination of Bin Laden unfolded on the big screen in front of them.
00:09:04.000They said that these Navy SEALs had cameras attached to their helmets and that Obama was able to watch the whole episode go down live.
00:09:14.000It actually turns out that there was no moment at all when Obama saw Bin Laden assassinated, supposedly shot in the head, because according to Leon Panetta, the CIA director, the video feed on these cameras was completely cut off before the Navy SEALs even entered the building.
00:09:37.000So for all the stern faces and shocked expressions that the media told us were going on in these photos as a result of Clinton and Obama witnessing the raid live, they actually saw nothing whatsoever.
00:09:53.000They didn't find out what had happened until it was all over.
00:09:57.000And these photos were basically staged in a PR stunt for public consumption, just as the rescue, rescue, in quotations, of Jessica Lynch and the death of Pat Tillman were also manufactured for public consumption.
00:10:13.000Fables to generate this contrived jingoism, this phony pro-war sentiment that Obama is now desperately trying to capitalize on in an effort to rebrand himself as this tough, respected leader.
00:10:30.000You know, all the Republicans are now clicking their heels because Obama was tough, he got the job done.
00:10:37.000He got the job done in basically lying to the American people in front of tens of millions of viewers.
00:10:43.000On Sunday night, Obama said that the assassination of Bin Laden followed a, quote, 40-minute shootout.
00:10:53.000Now, bear in mind, Obama never saw this took place because the live feed from the cameras had been cut.
00:11:01.000And now after the fact it's been admitted that there was no shootout.
00:11:05.000There was one individual in the whole compound that was armed and he wasn't even in the house.
00:11:55.000At first, they allegedly took him alive.
00:11:58.000But then they put a bullet through his head.
00:12:00.000Now, if you think that torture is so good at eliciting vital information, would you want to keep Osama Bin Laden alive or would you want to get rid of him straight away?
00:12:49.000But they put out these staged photos of them looking shocked.
00:12:53.000As the event unfolded, supposedly live, and of course Hillary Clinton has come out today after it all was revealed and said, oh I just had allergies, I just had my hand over my mouth.
00:13:05.000And this is already after they've claimed that it was the moments when the raid was happening, even though they didn't see it happen, which is now being admitted.
00:13:15.000So, lie upon lie, and nothing about the fairy tale adds up.
00:13:20.000And even some quarters of the mainstream media are now having to admit that fact.
00:13:25.000The White House Press Secretary, Carney, is being lambasted, left, right and centre, as a failure, as a flounderer.
00:13:34.000Because he keeps tripping over his own words, his own lies, during the press briefings.
00:13:40.000Because they're having trouble keeping this whole narrative in order.
00:13:46.000You know, tell the truth and you never have to remember anything.
00:13:50.000But this Carney guy is so overwhelmed by the fact that the White House keeps flip-flopping and changing the narrative that even he can't keep up.
00:14:01.000But don't worry about all that, because according to Time Magazine and the majority of the establishment media, anyone who points out these blaring discrepancies, these inconsistencies with the official narrative, is merely a conspiracy theorist engaging in, quote, black helicopter fantasies.
00:14:20.000That's what the Time Magazine writer said yesterday about Alex Jones and all the information that we've presented this week.
00:14:29.000So, presumably, that would include the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, who has come out herself and questioned these discrepancies.
00:14:39.000Presumably, that would include the man who all this week on the Alex Jones Show, and the man who's coming up as a guest in the next hour, Steve Pchenik, who has blown the lid off the entire Bin Laden fraud, the fact that he died in 2001.
00:14:57.000Is he another black helicopter fantasist, Time Magazine?
00:15:01.000He served under five US presidents, top spy master.
00:15:05.000He wrote the book for the State Department on psychological warfare and counter-terrorism.
00:15:11.000He's publicly saying that Bin Laden died in 2001.
00:15:16.000Two days ago on the Alex Jones Show, he said that these Situation Room photos were completely staged, a fairy tale.
00:15:28.000Is he a conspiracy theorist, a black helicopter fantasist?
00:15:32.000Time, Magazine and the rest of the establishment media.
00:15:38.000You know, they've also created this, uh...
00:15:41.000This framing of the debate where anyone who questions the official narrative, which is collapsing left, right and centre because they can't keep it straight, is either a wacko, paranoid nutjob or is some Taliban goat herder that claims Bin Laden's still alive.
00:16:01.000So, they're framing the debate around that, and then whenever you ask any questions about the whole narrative, even as it collapses, then you're ring-fenced under that label.
00:16:13.000But the whole stack of cards surrounding this Bin Laden fable is collapsing at warp speed, and Obama's nine point bounce that he's enjoyed so far is already starting to evaporate which is why today he's heading down to ground zero to try and reinvigorate This whole jingoistic attitude from the American people.
00:16:35.000And it's so transparent that they're exploiting this monumental fraud to try and manufacture this post 9-11 kind of intellectual castration of the American people.
00:16:48.000Because Obama comes out Sunday night and says that killing Bin Laden means America is now safer, that the world is safer from terrorists.
00:16:58.000Almost instantly, they start fear-mongering about nuclear holocausts from the admissions of the tortured Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who's been waterboarded for the last five years, who will admit to being, you know, the Grinch who stole Christmas, the Tooth Fairy and whatever else after they've tortured him for that amount of time.
00:17:20.000And now they're talking about raising the terror threat to a new level, to a higher level.
00:17:24.000You've got calls for the TSA to be put in shopping malls, putting their hands down your kids' pants.
00:17:31.000You've got more grope downs, you've got more bag searches, and you've got more goons walking around with machine guns.
00:17:39.000But Obama told us that the world was safer after the death of Osama bin Laden, and yet their reaction suggests that It's only going to become more unsafe because, of course, they're the real terrorists launching this psychological warfare operation against us.
00:17:56.000But it's all because the terrorists hate our freedom, which is why that local TSA child molester needs to get his hands on your children.
00:18:04.000CBS News reporting yesterday calls for TSA in shopping malls.
00:18:11.000And you can tell that it's contrived by their own reaction.
00:18:16.000It's a weird serial killer kind of reaction where they're going back to the scene of the crime and they're trying to exploit it for all it's worth.
00:18:24.000Because now with completely unrelated matters, they're hastily trying to spend Obama's political capital to destroy more of our freedoms.
00:18:33.000Bill Richardson comes out and says that killing Bin Laden means that Obama can now push through the cap and tax system.
00:18:45.000We've got a new story today out the hill with Obama pushing ahead with a plan to put satellite tracker boxes in your cars to track you by the mile.
00:18:57.000Again, nothing to do with Bin Laden, but it's about Obama spending this political capital, this contrived political capital, on a whole raft of different agendas that he's been waiting to push through.
00:19:11.000And if you think that a government that staged an event that started the Vietnam War, the Gulf of Tonkin, complete fabrication, never happened, historical fact, if you think that they're not capable of staging a raid on a building in Pakistan, then you've got another thing coming.
00:19:32.000And the whole thing overriding it, which we'll talk about with Steve Pchenik, is the fact that according to every intelligence professional worth their salt, Bin Laden's been dead since 2001.
00:19:44.000The fable, the fairytale nature of this fraud knows no bounds.
00:19:49.000We'll be back after the break with Rob Jacobson, live from Ground Zero.
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00:24:25.000We're live on the Alex Jones Show, May the 5th, 2011, and we've got Rob Jacobson, InfoWars Video Guru, Live on the line from Ground Zero as Barack Obama prepares to descend on the scene for his staged photo-op, trying to get as much political capital out of this Bin Laden fraud as politically possible.
00:24:49.000Rob, we've been bombarded with this fear-mongering about these imminent terror attacks and these calls to put the TSA in shopping malls.
00:24:57.000How has that hype manifested itself in New York as a police state being on Well, Paul, I'm over here at Ground Zero and it's the usual display of plenty of police.
00:25:14.000It's the first time I've seen police dogs on the street here in Manhattan.
00:25:18.000And there are police dogs guarding subway stations, but it's the usual group of police mixed with Secret Service types floating up and down the street.
00:25:31.000And, uh, the usual high level of security around Ground Zero, uh, eminent to one of these events.
00:25:38.000I got a, uh, group of police officers just, uh, marching right in front of me in some kind of two-by-two formation.
00:25:47.000And, um, it's basically, uh, exactly what, uh, you just described.
00:25:52.000Uh, everybody seems to be, it doesn't seem that the sentiment is that people are both not as much excited, but also I'm scared of what may be next and it's a heightened sense of paranoia here in New York City.
00:26:08.000So I'm wondering what kind of crowd is down there at the moment?
00:26:11.000We saw the celebrations on the White House lawn by these college zombies in the aftermath of this Bin Laden announcement.
00:26:21.000Is it a more quiet affair or are there political banners or any signs of that nature?
00:26:29.000I'm seeing a few political banners, but no hysteria like we've seen on the evening that Obama made the announcement.
00:26:37.000It's mostly people waiting to see the president.
00:26:41.000Usual crowd held back by the police line.
00:26:44.000I did see one sign basically saying that some woman's children are proud to be raised in a country where they love their president.
00:27:21.000I was waiting on line to actually go into the pit itself.
00:27:25.000They told me since we didn't contact the White House, Days and days before, I am not qualified to cover the president or take pictures of him in any way.
00:27:36.000I explained to him I'm here with a nationally syndicated radio show and I was prepared to have our producer get on the line with whoever needed to speak with him to prove that, you know, we truly are press.
00:27:49.000We are probably larger than most of the national labels I've seen waiting online.
00:27:58.000And they simply said, since we're not on the White House's list, we can't enter.
00:28:03.000Not only myself, but other news agencies were denied as well.
00:28:09.000I know senators, staff were denied access to inside unless you were on the White House pre-approved list.
00:28:18.000Well, obviously, I mean, Obama can't give a town hall speech without every single guest going through this approval process.
00:28:26.000And it's like the media equivalent of the free speech zones.
00:28:29.000You have to ask the government permission to engage in your First Amendment right, not only to protest, but merely to cover a public Media event is ridiculous and it's a sign of what's happened after 9-11.
00:28:43.000Of course the terrorists attacked us because they hate our freedom and then governments, consecutive governments, proceeded to take those freedoms away.
00:28:53.000I'm wondering, you've obviously traveled to New York on numerous occasions over the past few years.
00:29:00.000As somebody who visits often, what kind of statement does it make that 10 years nearly after 9-11, Ground Zero is still virtually a building site?
00:29:10.000Um, it shows that, um, you know, the statement is, is that either, everybody seems, the sentiment around the people is that everybody's a little disappointed that nothing is going on.
00:29:23.000I see a couple of construction sites here.
00:29:26.000The Liberty Tower is about 63 stories.
00:29:28.000There's another building going up, still under construction.
00:29:31.000This is all going on about 10 years after the actual incident.
00:29:36.000You'd think this would have been going on You know, a couple of years after, after some planning and whatnot, but... Okay, thanks, Rob.
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00:33:28.000We're back live, it's the Alex Jones Show, May 5th, 2011.
00:33:33.000Coming up at the top of the hour, Steve R. Pchenik, top spy masterworks under five different US presidents to talk about the Bin Laden fable.
00:33:43.000Now we have President Barack Obama mimicking George W. Bush.
00:33:49.000He's descended on ground zero and Obama, according to the Associated Press, is now basically repeating exact similar phrases that George Bush used as he stood on the rubble in those days after 9-11 as Obama desperately attempts to seize on the political capital that this Bin Laden raid has afforded him.
00:34:11.000But I'm delighted to say We've been joined by Paul Craig Roberts, who many of you will know of course was the father of Reaganomics, served as Assistant Treasury Secretary under Ronald Reagan, former editor of the Wall Street Journal, and of course Mr. Roberts is a prolific author and writer whose articles we eagerly await.
00:34:35.000We've posted his latest article on PrisonPlanet.com this morning.
00:34:40.000Mr. Roberts, great to have you on the show today.
00:35:04.000Not so much the Bin Laden part, because I think that's been known for some time, but His statement that he had been told by a general from, I think, Wolfowitz staff that 9-11 was an inside job and that he was willing himself, Steve Pagenik, to testify on the oath before Congress and reveal the guy's name.
00:35:28.000Now this is an astonishing development.
00:35:53.000You know, I'm not... His credentials are substantial.
00:36:00.000But what puzzles me about it is, I mean, that kind of marks him for a dead man, doesn't it?
00:36:07.000They're either going to ignore him or they're going to kill him.
00:36:09.000I mean, as well-connected as he's been in government, it seems to me he would know that if he says something like that, he's going to have an accident before anybody takes him up on the offer.
00:36:20.000I mean, that strikes me as reckless, almost.
00:36:28.000I've been really puzzled about why he would say that.
00:36:33.000I mean, I can understand revealing it.
00:36:36.000Uh, but not, you know, not forecasting that he was gonna reveal it.
00:36:42.000That's one thing they won't let be revealed.
00:36:47.000Exactly, I mean Alex asked him about that.
00:36:50.000Alex was trying to get him on air to say, you know, I'm not suicidal like the DC madam and obviously we know what happened to her.
00:36:57.000But Pchenik basically said, you know, I'm a professional, I've got dirt on them and he was basically not afraid of that.
00:37:05.000But he's actually coming up as a guest at the top of the hour and that's something I can press him further on in the next hour of the show.
00:37:16.000My question for you, Mr Roberts, is you wrote on Monday that the whole Bin Laden thing had, quote, the odour of a staged event.
00:37:25.000Now you've been justified in that assessment with these Situation Room photos that the media told us were an account of Obama and Hillary Clinton watching the live assassination of Bin Laden unfold.
00:37:39.000That has now been documented to be completely fraudulent.
00:37:47.000You've wrote this other article today which is excellent.
00:37:51.000What do you think are the most alarming discrepancies in this whole Bin Laden narrative that we've been sold on by the White House and the media?
00:38:00.000Well, you know, Paul, the thing was never believable in the beginning because the original story of a firefight With the heroic SEALs taking on Al-Qaeda, which Rumsfeld described as the most highly trained, the most dangerous, most vicious killers on the planet.
00:38:27.000And so they get, the SEALs get into a firefight with these vicious, highly trained killers and they don't get a scratch.
00:38:35.000So that already tells you something stinks.
00:38:39.000Because you, anybody can hear a helicopter coming.
00:38:42.000You know, even, even people who are asleep.
00:38:45.000So, then, before 48 hours passed, the whole story changes fundamentally.
00:40:02.000This is a staged event for a bunch of hidden agendas, not merely For Obama's popularity and poll ratings and re-election campaign, that's no doubt part of it.
00:40:14.000But there are other agendas that this event is being used for.
00:40:19.000For example, the justification of torture is one.
00:40:24.000Probably starting more trouble with Pakistan is another.
00:40:28.000More powers for homeland security is another.
00:40:31.000Probably more false flag attacks that they will say is due to al-Qaeda retaliation for killing bin Laden.
00:40:40.000There are all kinds of agendas that are hiding behind this false story.
00:40:48.000So, the dead giveaway is that If you actually did catch this guy, you wouldn't quickly throw the evidence of your success into the ocean.
00:41:03.000The minute you do that, the whole story becomes suspect, because there's no real explanation for why they dumped the body in the ocean.
00:41:12.000The story they give is obviously a fabrication, and it's incorrect.
00:41:17.000Uh, that they were giving him a quick burial in keeping with Muslim practices.
00:41:22.000This has been challenged by the Muslim demons.
00:41:25.000They say that you're supposed to be buried in the ground with your head pointed toward Mecca, and that the only excuse for dumping somebody at sea is if it's a very long voyage and the body is decomposing.
00:41:38.000And so every aspect of the story is phony.
00:42:20.000I mean, Pakistan lets the United States conduct illegal military actions on its territory, killing its citizens.
00:42:29.000Pakistan lets the United States Army send the Pakistani Army into tribal areas, into entire provinces, displacing entire populations of people.
00:42:40.000If Washington tells Pakistan, hey, we're going to stage this thing and we want your help and you better not say anything about it, they're going to cooperate.
00:42:48.000So, the real question is, why did the story change?
00:42:58.000Are people in the government now, I'm just speculating, I don't have any idea, are people in the government now seeing they don't want Obama, some of them don't want Obama again, and they see that he's managed to do this to boost his Poll ratings by 24% and so now they're going to undermine it because they want to get rid of him or they rather have a different puppet or something.
00:43:20.000There's all kinds of things going on that we don't know about and that might explain why the administration, the government, is destroying its own story.
00:43:33.000It's not being destroyed by news people.
00:43:36.000The news people are still celebrating the victory over bin Laden.
00:43:43.000And the news people have given the imprimatur to extra-legal murder of unarmed people.
00:43:53.000So it's not the news media who's exposed, it's the government itself that keeps changing the story.
00:44:00.000And where's the pressure coming from to change the story?
00:44:03.000I mean, why create such massive credibility problems Well, the government's own story.
00:44:14.000So maybe all the people inside the government are fighting each other over who they want to run the next time.
00:44:22.000I don't know what's going on, but that's the biggest puzzle to me.
00:44:26.000Maybe somebody on your desk, maybe Steve today, can throw some light on that.
00:44:34.000That is the most interesting question.
00:44:36.000So the two real questions, and then I'll be finished here.
00:44:42.000One is, what are the real agendas that this news event is designed to further?
00:44:50.000And two, why did the government wreck its own story by changing it before 48 hours are over, without any obvious sources of pressure on them to change the story?
00:45:24.000I mean, you've got the press secretary, Carney, who's now being lambasted by all sides of the media as this flounderer, this failure, because he's having difficulty getting the fable straight.
00:45:53.000It's a stone's throw away from a Pakistani military base.
00:45:57.000All the residents have to have ID cards.
00:46:00.000They have to go through checkpoints to get anywhere.
00:46:03.000And the only photos that have been released are of these victims.
00:46:07.000Of course, none of them have been Laden.
00:46:09.000It's increasingly starting to look like he wasn't... I mean...
00:46:13.000We know that every intelligence professional worth their salt said that he's been dead for nine years.
00:46:18.000It's starting to look as if perhaps some members of the Bin Laden family were there and that's what they used as the reason to go in.
00:46:28.000But I mean, it's like in your article today, you quote this email that you received from a reader who asks, you know, why the government's so sloppy in its lies that it virtually makes no effort to make them appear credible.
00:46:41.000I mean, Why are they so arrogant in their total disregard for the intellect of the American people?
00:46:48.000I think the answer to that, Paul, is they got away with 9-11.
00:46:51.000They blew up two skyscrapers in plain view of everybody, in plain view of their TV cameras.
00:46:57.000We've got recordings all over the world of these buildings being blown up.
00:47:01.000Anybody that looks at those buildings can see they're being blown up.
00:47:14.000If they get away with that, if they can get away with the fable that a few Saudis with box cutters can outwit all 16 American intelligence agencies, all the intelligence agencies of NATO, of Israel even, can outwit NORAD, air traffic control, airport security four times in one morning, Can cause the state-of-the-art Pentagon air defenses to fail.
00:47:39.000Anybody can pull off this superhero stuff.
00:49:07.000Governments all over the world have got away with these things.
00:49:09.000You know, Hitler got away with the Reichstag fire.
00:49:13.000They blamed it on the left wing or some deranged commie.
00:49:18.000These things are commonplace in history and they always were.
00:49:22.000In fact, I wonder if there are any examples that didn't work.
00:49:29.000I can't think of any offhand, maybe there are some somewhere.
00:49:34.000Well, it's with everything, like you said.
00:49:37.000I mean, Operation Gladio, they got away with that as well.
00:49:41.000And I think it comes down to the fact that when people don't have time or don't have the effort to scratch the surface on these things, they just throw in their lot with the US government as if it's some kind of baseball team, like they scored a major victory.
00:49:57.000I mean, in the aftermath of the bombardment of Iraq, pizza and I think that must be it.
00:50:04.000went through the roof and it's kind of just this dumbing down this reduction of what amounts in the end to the slaughter of thousands of millions of people to supporting a baseball team or a football team and that's that's the kind of post 9-11 mental castration that they're now trying to reinvigorate after this latest fraud i think that must be it um and so
00:50:30.000but still we'll remember now the the two questions that we should focus on is what are the real agendas behind this theater - Sure.
00:50:42.000And two, why did the government change the story?
00:50:45.000And we'll talk about that after the break with Paul Craig-Roberts.
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00:54:21.000It's the Alex Jones Show live with me, Paul Joseph Watson.
00:54:24.000Delighted to be joined by Paul Craig Roberts.
00:54:27.000We were talking about the agendas behind why they're contriving this Bin Laden fable.
00:54:33.000Many have suggested that we had these reports a couple of weeks ago about the Pakistani government protesting about the US drone strike simply because of the fact that they've killed so many innocent people in Pakistan.
00:54:47.000We had the Prime Minister of Pakistan Yusuf Ranza Jilani saying, quote, these attacks are creating a lot of problems for us.
00:54:55.000The US will have to stop these attacks.
00:54:57.000And of course, there were massive protests in Pakistan about these drone strikes just days before this Bin Laden fraud was rolled out.
00:55:07.000Pakistan is now being geopolitically isolated.
00:55:11.000They're saying that Pakistan was harbouring Bin Laden all along, of course.
00:57:16.000And so the question was whether he would all of a sudden be faced with challenges for the nomination.
00:57:24.000See, that's the last thing a sitting president wants.
00:57:27.000He wants to be re-nominated without having to go through a primary of his own.
00:57:33.000But if he's sinking in the polls at a time that's getting close enough to the presidential campaign itself, then he has to worry about All the money getting behind another candidate.
00:57:50.000So if he can boost his popularity long enough to make it too difficult for a last-minute challenge to come up.
00:58:01.000So that's one good reason for Obama to have done this.
00:58:04.000And it's probably the lead reason that he did it.
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01:00:44.000We're joined by Steve R. Pachenik, whose revelations this week have prompted one of the biggest reactions we've ever had from a guest.
01:00:55.000The listeners have been completely blown away with what they've heard.
01:00:59.000Steve Pachenik, of course, Deputy Assistant Secretary under three different administrations, also worked in the Reagan and Bush senior administrations.
01:01:09.000Top spymaster, terrorist hunter for the US government, wrote the book on psychological warfare and counter-terrorism for the State Department, and of course dropped the bombshell this week on the Alex Jones Show that Osama Bin Laden has been dead for the best part of a decade, since late 2001.
01:01:28.000Dr. Pichennik, great to have you back on the show today.
01:01:32.000Oh, it's always a pleasure, and I want to thank you and Alex Jones for bringing me on, and I want to thank the audience for listening to me.
01:01:40.000It's very kind of them, and again, this is something that we go back over a decade.
01:01:47.000It's very rare to have a host like Alex Jones, who had the bravery to bring me on ten years ago, right after 9-11, when I pronounced not only was 9-11 a false flag, And stand-down operation, which most Americans now realize, but at the same time, part of the whole scenario of the PsyOps war that was created by Bush Jr.
01:02:10.000and before that Clinton, quite frankly, because he was involved, was the fact that Osama bin Laden had been diagnosed with Marfan syndrome.
01:02:35.000And at the time that 9-11 occurred, he was eminently dying, and then by the time Toragora came in, he was already dead.
01:02:43.000So when I went on the air 9, 10 years ago, and Alex was kind enough to invite me, I said, look, Osama bin Laden is dead.
01:02:53.000But the issue of why we used Osama bin Laden is basically a story narrative that the intelligence community, usually the CIA and civilians, not often the military, although the military is...
01:03:08.000Literally, uh, separated out at this point.
01:03:11.000Many of my own men I work with in special forces, not the Navy, but the army, particularly in the army intelligence, I have really been watching this and, and I must admit that we have, I have full respect for our military.
01:03:25.000I myself was a Colonel at 32 and refused promotion at 39.
01:03:29.000But my point being that there was a narrative that was developed in order for the United States to go into a so-called war on terrorism, which is an oxymoron because terrorism is not a war.
01:03:43.000And that narrative was carried forth with all kinds of storylines that made no sense, including al-Shamma bin Laden was supposed to be the bad guy, and that's why we went in there, and we would pursue him and continue the war in Iraq and Afghanistan for reasons that were unclear to everybody and we would pursue him and continue the war in Iraq and Afghanistan for reasons that were unclear to everybody except that we were killing al-Qaeda members, but it turned out that the al-Qaeda members we were killing were the people we trained in the beginning when I was involved in the Carter administration
01:04:15.000They came out, some of them from special forces.
01:04:17.000others from other divisions of the military, and were trained in Brooklyn and elsewhere, and then were put in as Mujahideen, as most of the Americans know.
01:04:27.000And then eventually the storyline went, as the Bush administration created, with the Keneo-Kons, Paul Wolfowitz in particular, Zalmay Khalasad, Elliot Abrams, Condoleezza Rice, Richard Cheney, all of the what would eventually be turning criminals and liars as we found all of the what would eventually be turning criminals and liars as we found out that there was no And suddenly, not only did we have one villain, Osama bin Laden, who had already been dead in this narrative
01:04:54.000We'll talk about it after the break, stay there, we'll be right back with Steve R. Pchenik.
01:05:02.000You're subject to other police action.
01:08:17.000We're talking to Steve R. Pachenik, top spymaster, works under five US administrations.
01:08:24.000Dr. Pachenik, I was talking in the last half hour to the former Assistant Treasury Secretary under Reagan, Paul Craig Roberts.
01:08:32.000And he was, of course, fascinated by the statement you made earlier this week.
01:08:37.000The fact that a top general under Wolfowitz told you directly that 9-11 was a false flag and that you were prepared to go in front of a federal committee to reveal that name.
01:08:49.000Roberts was wanting to know how you're not concerned about your safety while withholding that kind of explosive information.
01:09:01.000Number one, uh, most of the people who are involved in the false flag and stand down understand what it is I really did over 20 to 30 years.
01:09:12.000Uh, I was what you call a solo operant and worked all over the world.
01:09:46.000And Rumsfeld was at the Rand Corporation, but I had worked with all the neocons and they weren't allowed under the Bush senior administration.
01:09:53.000So the issue of my safety is not really the issue.
01:09:57.000I'm just like any other American citizen who served our country.
01:10:11.000I went out to become what every American citizen is as an entrepreneur and basically wanted to live my life.
01:10:17.000As I wanted to, and make the mistakes that I could, and criticize the administration while being able to serve it.
01:10:24.000And I volunteer still to serve our military, and I'm very proud of that.
01:10:29.000I won't go into the details, and I don't ask for money, and I never have, and I don't receive a pension.
01:10:34.000But it's a very clear understanding that your American public should understand that if somebody doesn't step forward, I'm no more a hero than a mechanic, a truck driver, or anyone else, and I'm saying this is enough.
01:10:48.000My life has been at risk serving my country, I don't know, eight, nine different times from the Middle East to the East Asia to Cambodia with the Khmer Rouge, with the Red Brigade, with PFLP.
01:11:01.000And so I think those who know what I'm saying understand that.
01:11:05.000This could be a mutual assured destruction if anything really happened to me, and it would really not be very good for anyone to consider even thinking about terminating me, because it's not an issue.
01:11:19.000I mean, I don't need to threaten anybody.
01:11:21.000Everybody understands in the business what I do and what I've done, and it would be best for everybody just to cool it and allow an American citizen to say exactly what he wants to say, to criticize a president Who's not qualified to really be in this position at this point in time, who has maintained a narrative that's totally deceptive, false, a lie.
01:11:44.000And basically, the issue is, you know, those who are involved in this deception and in 9-11, they're not going to get away with it.
01:11:55.000The American public will not allow the unresolved issues of 9-11 to go away, as you've seen even a decade later, thanks to people like yourself and Alex Jones, and the wonderful, wonderful people who are listening to this, the radio broadcast.
01:12:10.000I don't see myself as any particular hero, or whether there's a death threat, that's fine.
01:12:16.000I mean, I do what I do without the concept that they're going to kill me or I'm going to disappear, and that's unfortunate for most people because I feel like the Jeffersonian doctrine, which is every generation has to fight for their own democracy.
01:12:31.000So, I'm blessed to be in a country where at the same time I can serve Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Ford, Carter, and Bush Senior, who I admire immensely.
01:12:42.000And at the same time be able to criticize his son, who I thought was totally incompetent and totally dangerous, Bush Jr.
01:12:50.000And now I see that there's a sequel to that, and that is Obama.
01:12:54.000It doesn't matter to me whether you're Republican, Democrat, Independent, or any other spectrum of the policy, but you cannot, I repeat, you cannot ...continue to have a psyops operation on the American public that wants to justify the increased popularity and self-aggrandizement of a president like either Bush Jr.
01:13:15.000or Obama, and he uses that to manipulate the public without telling the truth, and then gets to confabulate stories about an attack where a man was already dead and had a confrontation which never existed, And an intelligence community that backed it up and knows fully well that they have deceived and lied the American public.
01:13:37.000It's important that your audience understand, at this present point, terrorism has become such a big business.
01:13:46.000We have over 850,000 people involved around the Washington area in the military-industrial complex, making top-secret relations, which is absurd.
01:13:58.000We have TSA that has really never done anything to prevent or protract safety.
01:14:04.000And what's important to understand in this point right now for the public, we have been safe for over 30 to 40 years.
01:14:10.000Nothing and no one has ever attacked the United States.
01:14:14.000The only people who attacked the United States was George Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld.
01:14:19.000So the nonsense that since 9-11 we have been safe is an absolute lie.
01:14:25.000It's a continuous lie and those who believe it are continuously deceiving the American public.
01:14:31.000If anything else, it has become worse.
01:14:34.000We've exacerbated our relationship with the Pakistani government, the Pakistani military, which I have worked with under Yaqub Khan, and they're very true intelligence operatives who can have the access or have the access that I've had, including with the fundamentalists, Islamic fundamentalists who went to school with me.
01:14:52.000And, at the same time, we have become an increasingly policed state, which is exacerbating our economy, the fact that we are going down in our living standards, the fact that people have to have double jobs, there are no jobs available, and this president, all he cares about is garnering a billion dollars to re-elect himself in another narrative, which was totally delusional.
01:15:25.000But I didn't expect 10 years later for another delusionary panderer called a president, a politician, whether you're Republican or Democrat, To continue this nonsensical story that we have been attacked by Muslims, which we hadn't been.
01:15:42.000We were attacked by our own people in a false flag operation, and the point of the Osama Bin Laden resurrection is This is the psychological resurrection.
01:15:52.000If the SEALs attacked anything, then they're going to have to explain to me, who's been in intelligence for a long time and works with special forces, not the SEALs primarily, how they attacked the mortuary.
01:16:49.000Men who had really served our countries and worked on the Cold War.
01:16:52.000They were interesting in self-aggrandizement.
01:16:55.000They were interesting in promoting Seal 6.
01:16:58.000No special forces unit that I have worked with, including Delta and other units in hostage negotiation, in the Army particularly, has ever come forth and said how great I am and let me show you how great I am.
01:17:11.000It is unfortunate that the Navy has a proclivity, including under Admiral Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, whose father happens to have been a publicist for my talent agency, William Morris, and has a proclivity for self-aggrandizement because he made a real faux pas by giving the Medal of Honor and has a proclivity for self-aggrandizement because he made a real faux pas by giving the Medal of Honor to Greg Mortensen, another sociopath who claimed
01:17:36.000He has a proclivity to dramatize a unit that has had a questionable history of effectiveness, the SEALs.
01:17:43.000When I was involved under Reagan, the SEALs were lost on a raft, six of them, four to six of them, on an assault to Grenada.
01:17:52.000Now you explain that to me, but every movie I have seen, and your public has ever seen, aggrandizes and self-aggrandizes the SEAL unit, including Demi Moore's film, G.I.
01:18:05.000But the units I worked with and had to consult to, you will never know about.
01:18:11.000They are dedicated, quiet men and women who have been intellectually exceedingly perceptive, very highly trained, and their job is to do their job, keep it quiet, and go home.
01:18:27.000And we're talking about great generals like General Petraeus and other generals who really have served our country, but you don't hear them going out And creating this fantasy of how they went in there and attacked a man who was out, but wasn't on, who is dead, but isn't dead, but now is floating in the water.
01:18:46.000So I warn the Navy, in particular the Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff, the best he can do, Mullen, is to resign now.
01:18:55.000You're not qualified to run the CIA or the military, Secretary of Defense.
01:19:01.000And I warn the President of the United States, cease and desist this nonsensical story and stop calling the American people conspirator and marginalizing us by telling us what he wants to hear.
01:19:13.000Because the truth of the matter is the more he says things that are absurd and contradictory, the more he's going to expose himself to people like myself and others about his own questionable background and, I'm not talking about his birther.
01:19:28.000He knows he has a very questionable history and he's treading on very dangerous waters when you come into the world of PsyOps in a world where guys like me and others who I work with are really professional.
01:19:41.000I don't go out in public, I don't need to have my picture taken, I don't need to have a uniform, and I don't have to be interviewed every 30 seconds to say how great I am.
01:19:52.000Okay, we'll be back to talk more about it after the break with Dr. Steve Puccini.
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01:23:57.000We're back live on the Alex Jones show May 5th, 2011.
01:24:18.000Talking to Dr. Steve Pachenik, who has been completely vindicated at the The Situation Room photos were staged.
01:24:27.000Obama and Hillary did not watch the Bin Laden raid.
01:24:31.000Obama lied Sunday night on national television when he told Americans that he did.
01:24:36.000I want to get your take on that, Steve, and also, we don't have much time, just one more question.
01:24:42.000On Sunday, Obama said America was safer because of this staged Bin Laden fable.
01:24:48.000They've ramped up the police state, they're talking about putting the terror level up a notch.
01:24:53.000How much danger are we in of them staging another false flag inside America within the next few weeks?
01:25:00.000Well, I don't want to say they're going to create a false flag, but what he's done is exactly... When you lie, you continuously lie.
01:25:06.000So he will lie to create, in order to maintain this lie, he will increase what looks like the presence of counter-terrorist people, TSA and cops and all.
01:25:16.000But the reality, the only thing that's effective in terrorism, in counter-terrorism over 30 years, is human intelligence.
01:25:39.000The intelligence community will understand.
01:25:42.000That will precipitate violence in this country.
01:25:44.000And I warn the intelligent community that's listening now and the military, do not even think of creating another false flag, because that will be the beginning of the second American revolution.
01:25:56.000That will be the beginning where really the American public that is allowed to have guns will really understand that this country is out of control.
01:26:04.000So now I am warning the President of the United States, who is not the brightest individual in the world and who is also not very confident in his job, that if you want to get reelected, you best get reelected by understanding what the office is.
01:26:25.000And by increasing the so-called security, you're creating more and more trouble.
01:26:29.000You've created more trouble by men and women, our honorable men and women who've gone and fought and died for this nonsense, so that you can get re-elected.
01:26:38.000Our veterans coming back without any benefits because you are not able to supply them and you cannot get re-elected on the bodies of the American people and on their welfare.
01:26:49.000So I warn you repeatedly, if you think I am just full of air, you better look at my history again on regime change.
01:26:57.000It will be very easy to initiate a regime change with you, Mr. President, and everyone around the intelligence community.
01:27:04.000If you want to come forth, I'll be happy to discuss it with you, but I believe that President No.
01:27:11.0002 not too bright, and his lying will be the undoing of this presidency.
01:27:16.000Dr. Puccini, about these staged photos, I mean, you said they were staged, now it's come out that they were, what do you have to say about that?
01:27:25.000Well, you know, being right is not good in my life, because I'm a physician.
01:27:28.000If I tell you you have cancer, I'm not proud to say that you have cancer.
01:27:33.000Believe me, I have no great satisfaction in saying nine years later that the American public has been duped again.
01:27:40.000But I'm warning those who are creating this story, including the intelligence community, The 850,000 people involved in counter-terrorism, beware of what you do.
01:27:53.000The American public will hold you accountable.
01:27:56.000There are myself and others who understand exactly who you are, what you are doing.
01:28:02.000Do not mess with the American public, and that's my warning.
01:28:06.000There will be more deceptions, more lies, but if you increase your TSA, you increase your security, You will weaken the fibers of our democracy and that will begin the second American Revolution.
01:28:19.000And if they don't understand that they better look at what happened to the neocons.
01:29:05.000We've got to leave it there, we're out of time.
01:29:07.000Really appreciate you spending time with us and we'll be sure to have you back on the show.
01:29:13.000There goes Dr. Steve Puchenik with more astounding revelations on the Alex Jones Show and I'm sure that he'll be back on the air very shortly.
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01:33:39.000In the third hour we've got Aaron Dykes coming up to present some deep research that he's been working on, which is always interesting to hear.
01:33:49.000But today we're talking, obviously, the hot topic As President Obama grandstands at Ground Zero, reaping the political benefits of Osama Bin Laden, just as President Bush did before him.
01:34:08.000So we're going to get into a bit of the history of The mythical figure, Bin Laden, who he is, where he's come from and how he's going to be still an icon to be used by the establishment in the future.
01:34:25.000Obviously, the facts are getting lost in a froth of false vindication and faux patriotism that has arisen this week since the announcement on Sunday.
01:34:37.000But it's obviously key to break this down, to understand why this has fundamentally and permanently altered our society for the worse.
01:34:48.000So we've got the notion of the sort of bad guy we got him, good triumphs over evil, and this idea that our governments represent our own sense of morality which is obviously a complete theatre.
01:35:05.000It's just simply not reflective of reality and the way the world actually works.
01:35:11.000And, you know, anyone who actually believes that is either badly misinformed or completely naive, so...
01:35:19.000As the listeners of this show and, uh, many more people are aware, uh, the origins of Bin Laden trace us back to, uh, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979, um, where he was him and the Mujahideen were trained and funded by the CIA and the Pentagon Intelligence Services.
01:35:44.000So, rather than lingering on that, we'll move on to some other examples of how Bin Laden's been used by the establishment to forward this idea of the boogeyman, the terror mastermind.
01:36:03.000But first it's important to check out the interviews that Alex has conducted over the past week with Steve Pchenik and the interview that we've just heard because There are people at the moment, detractors, who are just simply, seem to be immune to facts and evidence.
01:36:25.000And these articles and these interviews of this, people like Pchenik, someone who's served under five presidents at the highest levels of government, it's important to get these out to people.
01:36:37.000You know, to show, to present the evidence, because For example, earlier this week Alex was on Talk Sport UK radio and callers were calling in.
01:36:50.000As he was giving out all the evidence, quoting the experts, and just simply, they were simply not hearing what he was saying.
01:36:57.000They were saying he had, all he had was a website and maybe a YouTube video of himself saying these things.
01:37:04.000And that's a good clip to, that's a good clip to, and a good interview to get out to people, the TalkSport one.
01:37:12.000It's on the Alex Jones channel, the YouTube channel, because it shows that there's a kind of cognitive dissonance going on.
01:37:18.000There's a kind of A divide that's being driven by this faux patriotism that we have to overcome.
01:37:29.000The idea that Bin Laden was killed in this hovel which the media for some reason referred to as a million dollar mansion at first.
01:37:41.000We've got staged photographs flying around, we've got You know, even if they do release a video or a photo, it's too late because they've already released a load of nonsense over the past decade.
01:37:54.000Fake Bin Laden videos, recycled, rehashed material.
01:37:58.000It's important to get these key articles out to people to explain, to get through this cognitive dissonance, this holding two ideas in the head at the same time that conflicts because You've got this group of people who are almost violently patriotic at the moment with this announcement.
01:38:16.000It's a kind of psychological resurrection of the buggyman Bin Laden figure.
01:38:22.000And it's very difficult to get through to them without getting these key facts and the words of these experts out to them because at the end of the day we're just people on camera or on the radio telling you these things.
01:38:37.000These people have to go to this stuff and see it for themselves.
01:38:40.000But we're going to get into, as I said, we're going to get into the history of this Bin Laden figure over the next couple of segments, and then in the third hour we've got Aaron Dykes.
01:38:55.000Up until 2001, the sort of, you know, the real death of Bin Laden, which occurred, according to everyone who is in the know, in 2001, shortly after 9-11.
01:39:07.000Depending on the specific case that you choose to look at, Bin Laden was either being actively assisted and protected, or willfully ignored and allowed to operate by our governments and intelligence agencies.
01:39:23.000In the early 90s he led what became Al-Qaeda to Bosnia shortly after the outbreak of the conflict there to fight against the Bosnian Serbs who subsequently became the target of US-NATO airstrikes.
01:39:42.000But during that conflict the Pentagon smuggled Vast amounts of arms to Bosnian Muslims, led from afar by Bin Laden, all the while knowing they were being led by Bin Laden.
01:39:55.000And the arms were smuggled through Croatia, which was in flagrant violation of UN arms embargoes at the time.
01:40:10.000They were working in tandem with, actually with Iran and Hezbollah to deliver weapons to these Bosnian Muslims.
01:40:19.000They had the financial backing of Saudi Arabia as well.
01:40:23.000But the reason for this was because Pentagon was indebted to these fighters stemming from Afghanistan and also stemming from the first Gulf War against Saddam Hussein.
01:40:38.000During the Bosnia conflict, they were even involved in airlifting hundreds of these fighters, these Islamist fighters, into Bosnia on black C-130 Hercules aircraft.
01:40:54.000I mean, you can search the headline, America used Islamists to arm Bosnian Muslims, and you'll get a lot of articles that break this down.
01:41:06.000And, you know, this is one of the first examples of Bin Laden being used as this Western asset.
01:41:18.000There's an excellent account actually written by a professor here in the UK called Richard J. Aldrich, who was a professor at Nottingham University where I studied, and he's written articles for The Guardian.
01:41:33.000And I think he's now a professor at Warwick University.
01:41:36.000He's put lots of books out there, sort of delving into the, you know, behind-the-scenes intelligence of the Bosnian conflicts and what really went on there with the Pentagon's involvement.
01:41:51.000And obviously they set up, following the end of the war, Uh, they set up terrorist training camps in Bosnia, uh, these Muslims that had been funded, and eventually it was all blowback again, and it came back onto the Pentagon, and they became the ones that eventually, uh...
01:42:11.000We were basically in conflict with... So another classic example of the sort of using these groups and Bin Laden as the pawns in the chess game for the Western intelligence services and you know when they're done with them they simply discard them they simply get rid of them or have to fight them and you know when they become useful again they will shift them into a different territory.
01:42:41.000As they did when the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia occurred in 1999, where Bin Laden's fighters were moved into Kosovo, which is in Serbia's southern provinces, to aid the Kosovo Liberation Army, which was basically an Albanian terrorist faction.
01:43:06.000So again, another example, it was, you know, the US and NATO and the Kosovo Liberation Army with Al-Qaeda that were involved in the terrorist acts that were triggering responses from the Serbian authorities that eventually led to the conflicts there.
01:43:23.000And, you know, eventually before weeks, and this went on for years, and weeks before 9-11, we were still helping, still using Al-Qaeda there.
01:43:36.000Some fighters were airlifted out of Macedonia on US planes, according to German intelligence sources.
01:43:44.000Which means, obviously, that our intelligence was still, you know, aiding Al-Qaeda fighters at that time, weeks before 9-11.
01:43:54.000And then, of course, there was a similar event which occurred following the invasion of Afghanistan in November 2001, where Hundreds of fighters, hundreds of Taliban and Al-Qaeda fighters were flowing out of Afghanistan into Pakistan on Pakistani cargo planes which couldn't have possibly happened without the Pentagon's knowledge because they'd secured the region at that time.
01:44:23.000But sort of, going back to the mid-90s, another place where Bin Laden popped up, this mythical terror mastermind, was Libya, 1996, when it was revealed that, uh, by French intelligence that there was a plot to assassinate Gaddafi.
01:44:47.000Which obviously has ramifications for what's going on in Libya now.
01:44:53.000As it was revealed by French intelligence that Western intelligence services had wired $200,000 to a cell controlled by Bin Laden, which moved into Libya to initiate a grenade attack on Gaddafi.
01:45:12.000And after the plot failed, I think the Libyans released Footage of the attack on TV claiming it was a Western attack.
01:45:23.000And this was then verified by sources in, that worked in MI5 here and French Intelligence.
01:45:33.000And the Libyans issued an arrest warrant for Bin Laden, which was an Interpol arrest warrant, which was the first actual arrest warrant for him.
01:45:44.000But it was actively blocked by MI6, who were obviously
01:45:50.000wary of their own ties to the plot to assassinate Gaddafi being exposed and you know this has all been this has all been revealed in mainstream media sources and terrorists from that cell in Libya went on to they were this you know the same terrorists who went on to conduct the bombings in on the embassies in Africa in the late 90s
01:46:18.000So again, it's an example of Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda being groomed, funded, trained, used, aided, moved around like pawns in a chess game.
01:46:35.000And so, we arrive at the situation now where, you know, we've got Bin Laden as the ultimate buggyman in this crazy false raid And it all stems back to this, and we can give a few more examples as well of him being an intelligence asset.
01:46:54.000We can point to the time he was in Sudan, and around the same time as the Libya plot in the mid-90s, it was known that he was in Sudan.
01:47:07.000The government there contacted the CIA and offered to have him arrested.
01:47:13.000Obviously it was the Clinton administration at this time.
01:47:16.000They offered to have him arrested and shipped off to Saudi Arabia where he could be held in custody and then extracted from there by the Americans should they wish to do so.
01:47:28.000But the Clinton administration turned it down.
01:47:31.000Turn the offer down from the Sudanese government because they said they didn't have enough of a case to indict Bin Laden which is on its face ridiculous because at the time he was publicly known as You know, the greatest financier of terrorist projects around the world.
01:47:54.000Obviously, behind the scenes, there's more going on to them, but publicly that's what he was known as.
01:48:00.000But still, the Clinton administration didn't have A case, it claimed, so that was the first opportunity they had to capture him and extract him and deal with him back then, all those years before 9-11.
01:48:20.000And the Saudis refused to cooperate with it anyway, obviously because of their own intelligence ties to him as well.
01:48:29.000So, I mean, the fallout of all that was Bin Laden was expelled from Sudan and he went to Afghanistan where we know he, uh...
01:48:41.000Went on to conduct all the other plots he did.
01:48:44.000He chartered a flight from Afghanistan in 1996 with 150 followers, including some of his family, to Afghanistan.
01:48:54.000And on the way, the plane actually stopped and refuelled in Qatar, the Gulf state of Qatar, which is also an ally, a friendly nation to Washington.
01:49:07.000So, I mean, the authorities there would have known, would have contacted the Americans, but still he was allowed to proceed after that stop in Qatar.
01:49:17.000And there were also, you know, other opportunities for Clinton to capture and bring to justice bin Laden.
01:49:26.000In 2000, the Taliban Offered to hand Bin Laden over to a Gulf state through unofficial channels.
01:49:35.000Contacted the Clinton administration and offered to do this, but the provisor was it was through unofficial channels.
01:49:46.000They sent out, at the time, the senior counter-terrorism advisor Richard Clarke, who has since gone on to reveal a lot of interesting facts about what went on at that time.
01:50:01.000They sent Richard Clarke to To the United Arab Emirates, which was the Gulf state involved in supposedly taking Bin Laden from the Taliban.
01:50:17.000The United Arab Emirates later denied that there was any kind of plot.
01:50:22.000Uh, to offer Bin Laden over and it was basically revealed that because the White House had gone through official channels and not unofficial channels to do all this, as had been demanded, that the opportunity fell through again.
01:50:41.000You can search for details of all these opportunities to seize Bin Laden.
01:50:45.000I think it was the Sunday Times that broke this a number of years ago and the articles are still out there, so all this information is still out there.
01:50:55.000After we come back from the break, we're going to look at Opportunities post 9/11.
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01:54:42.000We're discussing the psychological resurrection of Osama Bin Laden on the Alex Jones Show.
01:54:53.000Like I said before we've got Aaron Dykes coming up in the third hour so stay around for that.
01:54:58.000Before we were discussing chances to grab bin Laden that were overlooked or ignored purposefully previous to 9-11.
01:55:09.000And as Sybil Edmonds, the FBI translator, has famously testified, Bin Laden was working with the CIA right up until 9/11 and beyond 9/11
01:55:28.000really because we had reports of Bin Laden being visited by CIA officials in July 2001 in a hospital in Dubai, an American hospital where he was being treated for kidney disease and And the CIA agents visited there and later bragged about this.
01:56:00.000Obviously he was reported to have serious kidney disease and that is a factor in the reason why many people believe this current raid hoax to be just that, a hoax, because he's been dead for a long time, because there's no way he could have been hiding out on a kidney dialysis machine, plotting the greatest, the biggest terrorist plot in the history of America, in the history of the world.
01:56:27.000I mean, it's relatively common knowledge as well that the Bin Laden family was allowed to be flown out of the US following the attacks.
01:56:39.000If you've seen Michael Moore's film, it's even in there, he goes into it.
01:56:43.000So that's relatively common knowledge, but what's not common knowledge about that is the fact that the FBI knowingly allowed one of those flights to be chartered by Bin Laden himself.
01:56:57.000This is something we revealed In 2007, 2008, when Judicial Watch, the sort of watchdog, the government watchdog, obtained documents through the Freedom of Information Act which outlined the fact that the FBI
01:57:19.000knew that one of the flights that the Bin Laden family, which is a vast extensive family of Saudi millionaires, were flown out of the US after 9-11.
01:57:33.000They knew that one of the flights was chartered by Bin Laden himself.
01:57:39.000Which is incredible given that he was, you must remember that in the, in the early, in the first early days after 9-11, you know, it was only the media that was speculating that Bin Laden was the big mastermind behind the operation.
01:57:55.000So, at that time, um, It wasn't, you know, it wasn't official, but the FBI still knew that he was, you know, the biggest terrorist in the world, and they'd allowed him to charter a flight, uh, with his own family out of the, out of the US.
01:58:13.000So, we'll get into more about this after the break.
01:58:16.000And now we've got Aaron Dykes coming up.
02:00:39.000I was talking about the fact that Bin Laden had been allowed to charter a flight himself Knowingly by the FBI after 9-11 out of the US, which to many people is just unbelievable, that the documents are there, the FBI actually redacted Bin Laden's name from the documents, took his name out.
02:01:02.000I'll cover up the fact that it was Bin Laden.
02:01:06.000You can search for this, you'll find articles on this, plenty of articles, one written by myself where I point to mainstream sources and the documents themselves released by Judicial Watch.
02:01:17.000Of course, after this, there was never a formal indictment of Bin Laden for 9-11 by the FBI because they said From their own mouths, there was simply not enough evidence to go on that he was involved in the plot.
02:01:33.000Right up until his supposed death, he's never been indicted for that.
02:01:38.000Today we learned that the civil court case is being dropped in New York against Bin Laden because he's now Been put out to pasture, he's now dead.
02:01:51.000But you know, we had other documents such as the W199I document, which the Bush administration basically ordered the FBI to back off investigating the Bin Laden family.
02:02:04.000Pre prior to 9-11 and it just goes on and on and on and the bottom line is this whole we've got him thing now is completely asinine and it requires a it requires a worldview that is just completely beyond belief naive and also requires a
02:02:23.000A dangerously unquestioning, unswerving attitude towards our own governments and their secret services which have been engaged in illegal activity all over the globe for as long as we can remember.
02:02:38.000Let's bring Aaron up here to see what he thinks about this.
02:02:48.000So I was just going to ask you what information you've got coming up in the next hour.
02:02:53.000You know, I really want to get into the whole case of how the Obama administration is trying to control reality.
02:02:59.000We've got all these conflicting stories, and I think it's really the first time we've seen the president playing with the info war.
02:03:07.000But the fact is, reality is reality, and they can't control a lemon story any better than anyone else can.
02:03:14.000Nothing has ever added up about this 9-11 case, and I guess bin Laden's death is primarily a fairytale ending to a classic fairytale.
02:03:25.000Yeah, and it's this whole sort of cognitive dissonance thing, because, you know, by now people know that a lot of these facts that we've continually been bringing up for the last ten years, by now they know that they're true, a lot of people, so they're holding in their heads at the same time two Conflicting ideas and they're choosing not to, you know, they're choosing not to recognize it because it's, you know, it's easier for them.
02:03:51.000You know, but at the same time they've seen the endless wars, the build-up of the domestic police state and everything that our governments have lied to us about.
02:04:00.000But yet there's still this group of people that are just blindly accepting the illusion, this fable that's being put out there.
02:04:08.000I mean, where do you see this heading after You know, Obama's big grandstand today.
02:04:15.000Well, he's of course trying to get political points.
02:04:17.000I've seen some of the footage, as I'm sure others have, of him at ground zero.
02:04:22.000But mainly, we know that they plan to continue this war on terror.
02:04:26.000There's the Libya front, where al-Qaeda is now an ally.
02:04:29.000And that really conflicts with the really old, out-of-date bin Laden story.
02:04:34.000And I think they're looking to rebrand that, so they can rewrite the narrative.
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02:08:22.000You've heard Steve and Paul Joseph Watson, and just our incredible guest, Pichesnik, you know, willing to speak out even more than he has before, and of course, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.
02:08:35.000Of course, we've got to go more into the Bin Laden death hoax, which really, of course, has to do with Obama's sagging poll numbers, practically a Uh, defeated presidency.
02:08:49.000And, uh, you know, of course they're spending it for political points.
02:08:52.000Of course he's down at ground zero trying to give closure to the whole 9-11 myth.
02:08:58.000But the way I see it, it's really a milestone in the InfoWar.
02:09:02.000Even if they win short term, even though their story is falling apart, they've got conflicting reports.
02:09:08.000They can't even agree on what was going on in this Bin Laden bunker.
02:09:12.000And we'll get more into that in just a second, but just to Point out the obvious.
02:09:17.000Why couldn't they show a photo not only of Bin Laden and his death when he's gruesome, but why couldn't they show a still from these cameras that were in during the raid showing him in his last moments alive, etc.
02:09:30.000But I really question whether Obama is at that Nixonian point where he's taken his enemies personally, sees his critics in the world as enemies, and is really trying to score points with them.
02:09:44.000He seemed very bitter in having to release his birth certificate, basic proof of his eligibility.
02:09:50.000Now he seems very bitter at the idea of having to release bin Laden photos, saying that no one's going to believe it anyway.
02:09:58.000And we really heard from Secretary Clinton a few months ago really identifying that this is an info war and that in fact the government, the State Department, the Obama administration, the Bush administration for that matter, are losing that info war.
02:10:14.000Everything about the 9-11 lie has been picked apart.
02:10:18.000For nearly a decade now, of course, it's never made sense and I guess it just adds up that a fairy tale would have a fairy tale conclusion with a mythological death of Bin Laden, no photos, no evidence, DNA supposedly matched before there's time to conduct a proper test, buried at sea.
02:10:39.000Do we have the clip of Hillary Clinton?
02:10:44.000Yeah, let's pull that up and get it ready.
02:10:46.000It's really an info war where we're winning.
02:10:49.000We've all, the supposed conspiracy theorists, have pointed out inconsistencies, brought up facts when they're available.
02:10:57.000You know, sure there's people trying to figure out what may have happened, but generally we're picking apart this terrible, unstable, impossible official story and it just doesn't add up.
02:11:33.000And unfortunately, we are paying a big price for it.
02:11:36.000And our private media cannot fill that gap.
02:11:40.000In fact, Our private media, particularly cultural programming, often works at counter-purposes to what we truly are as Americans and what our values are.
02:11:50.000I remember having an Afghan general tell me that the only thing he thought about Americans is that all the men wrestled and the women walked...
02:11:59.000So you see, you know, opening up roles for state-controlled media, state-planted propaganda.
02:12:05.000We know what Cass Sunstein has written.
02:12:08.000They want to have plants to rebut supposed conspiracy theorists, to counter information they don't think is Politically expedient or that doesn't help prop up their regime and really what it amounts to a pile of lies I bring this up even though it's a few months old because it really is an info war and I think we're seeing the moment where Obama is taking a personal part in that info war Which we're winning.
02:12:53.000I mean, he's the first person in the clip because he's engaged with this British host and these callers, as we're going to hear in a minute.
02:13:00.000But he's really talking about the People who've tried to uncover the truth on 9-11 and so many other topics that we're winning and they can't dictate a false reality.
02:13:12.000They can't even hold up a false story about Bin Laden's death.
02:13:15.000It's completely falling apart at the seams.
02:13:19.000Very likely evidence of Senators being deliberately fed disinformation.
02:13:24.000Senators Scott Brown, Senator Saxby Chambliss, and other Senators admit they were conned by a totally fake bin Laden photo, which they in turn used to declare that yes, in fact, he's dead, don't question this, and they were in fact conned
02:13:44.000We don't know exactly deliberately but I think it's highly likely they were deliberately steered to believing that in fact Bin Laden was dead based on false photographic evidence and we know that many family members Headline 9-11 family invited to presidential ground zero snubs Obama demands to see the photo.
02:14:04.000We have Canadian members of the NDP demanding to see photos saying they have doubts that the US even has these photos and why not?
02:14:14.000uh... when there's no evidence there's every reason to doubt what's going on and demand more information uh... so we're gonna get more into how the administration's trying to build uh... this this kingdom of lies uh... with this fairytale ending to the 9-11 myth so they can rebrand al-qaeda for a new era of the war on terror which they say could be a another hundred year war uh... you know like seven hundred years ago in europe uh... but let's go to the Alex Jones clip
02:14:42.000Just told you Anwar al-Awlaki's secretly hanging out at the Pentagon!
02:15:14.000I mean what you've said and neither here nor there.
02:15:19.000So I mean Alex, really the question I've got to ask you is How can you possibly say that any of this mission to do with killing Osama Bin Laden was set up in any way?
02:15:29.000Now, I mean, you take the situation... I mean, you're laughing already.
02:15:33.000I mean, for example, I mean, take what the last guy that was on just said.
02:15:37.000Everything you ever say and everyone that is like you that is a conspiracy theorist, and I do categorize Conspiracy theorists who relish the word!
02:15:46.000You don't have any intellectual acumen, any gravitas, you just have a label so you can, your mind, can decide snobberishly to say that I don't have documentation.
02:15:57.000Let me stop right there, let me stop right there.
02:16:16.000So the fact that you and your friends have made a video and put it on YouTube, that makes it... You're showing who the conspiracy theory is.
02:16:23.000I just gave you the date and what to search, Washington Post, and you just...
02:16:30.000And you just said it's going to be on YouTube.
02:16:33.000I just told you, buddy boy, my source is not YouTube.
02:18:35.000Come on Alex, let's just make that clip out.
02:18:37.000It's a really incredible battle between Alex and just the ideologically dense listeners who refuse to embrace the facts, look at the reality, factors like the fact that opium is more important than any supposed act of Osama Bin Laden.
02:18:56.000In the real war on terror, so-called, in Afghanistan, opium and oil and geopolitics, that's what's really at play.
02:19:04.000But more importantly, Alex makes the point that we are winning in reality because so much disinformation is put out by the system.
02:19:12.000These mindless drones can't even face reality.
02:19:16.000They try to belittle Alex, consider him to be a minority.
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02:24:32.000You just heard Alex on TalkSport in the UK, brushing aside the silly arguments from the host and from these callers, completely out of the real reality paradigm.
02:24:44.000We don't know everything that's going on, but we are trying to follow the facts and break apart these lies.
02:24:50.000Meanwhile, we have an Obama administration who's admittedly been given a difficult task because he's expected to continue all the lies and propaganda that were built up in the post 9-11 era by the Bush administration.
02:25:04.000We know the whole thing is one big lie from saying they could never foresee the attacks coming, despite the fact that there were
02:25:12.000Military drills with bin laden's face and the twin towers on the cover Despite the fact that they had intelligence reports the presidential PDB 51 briefing Declaring that bin laden was determined to attack despite that we saw Condoleezza Rice and Bush saying they never could have even imagined That something would happen Akin to 9-11 it's all a lie, but at the same time we have Obama with floundering ratings really trying to
02:25:42.000entrench himself against a public that he surely sees as an enemy much in a Nixon Richard Nixon kind of way where he's just surrounded by enemies of one kind or another people challenging him to produce documents this is a man who said he's part of the most transparent administration of all time he He's anything but.
02:26:11.000Obviously continued the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan while expanding into Libya.
02:26:16.000And really it's hit a juncture where the al-Qaeda myth has to be rebranded.
02:26:20.000There has to be a new set of rules for this war on terror.
02:26:25.000I think the point came where they had to put Bin Laden to bed sooner or later, and it was a politically expedient time to hopefully bolster Obama's ratings.
02:26:34.000We did see a jump, but it's already been going back down.
02:26:38.000That is the approval for Obama, and he's really in this position where they've claimed a certain story without providing any evidence.
02:27:21.000They've got a photo here of kind of a revised script that the White House said Tuesday they blame the fog of war for conflicting statements and recounting of the events of the Abbottabad raid that In fact, he was never even armed.
02:27:36.000And that's if you even believe Osama bin Laden was even still living.
02:27:41.000There were reports certainly of his death as early as December 2001.
02:27:47.000Even if he wasn't dead, he was a very sick man.
02:28:15.000He was flown to Dubai in an American hospital for treatment for 10 days for his kidney dialysis issues back in 2001-2002.
02:28:22.000in 2001, 2002. He's suffering from hepatitis C.
02:28:28.000He may have even had Marfan syndrome, a disorder of the connective tissue that would have given him back problems, heart conditions, the possibility for sudden death.
02:28:38.000He may have been an ideological enemy, but this was not a person in any position to fire a weapon or quote-unquote resist.
02:28:47.000They put forward the idea that they only killed bin Laden if indeed he was even in this compound because of supposedly resisting.
02:28:54.000Then we see that story completely fall apart as a hoax.
02:28:57.000He wasn't armed and he would have been a sickly old man if he was even in this compound.
02:29:02.000Very unlikely that he would have been able to even wield a weapon.
02:29:07.000But moreover, we have this whole false debate that Obama White House couldn't produce evidence.
02:29:13.000There's a complete opposite of a trail of evidence because the photos would be upsetting because they had to bury him at sea according to Muslim cultural norms, which wasn't even true.
02:29:26.000Why would they care about upsetting photos when they released Abu Ghraib?
02:29:30.000American soldiers have desecrated the Koran.
02:29:33.000And they completely disrespected the 9-11 families.
02:29:36.000Wouldn't even dig up all the remains and properly bury them.
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02:33:35.000I'm Aaron Dyke sitting in, but we have Alex Jones on the line, and we've just been going through what a hoax this is, how it's falling apart, how Obama really is going to have egg on his face in just a few minutes, because this story doesn't add up.
02:33:49.000They're completely conflicting, but let's go to Alex and see what he has to say.
02:33:55.000Yes, Aaron, it's great to be here with you.
02:33:58.000I apologize to listeners that I'm not going to be in today or tomorrow, but we've all joked about the Murphy's Law over the years at the office that a few times a year I take off two or three days to take my children camping or fishing, that there's always a big, giant world event.
02:34:16.000But I just want to say how proud I am of the fact that I've got such a wonderful team in Aaron Dykes and Paul Watson and Steve Watson and Curt Nemo and Jaron and Marley and Matt and all the other great folks in the office, all the rest of the team, and just the amazing research and how on target you guys have been.
02:34:37.000I am meant to be where I was going by the time I was supposed to call, but I got out of the house early this morning going out to this cabin to do some fishing.
02:34:46.000And so I'm doing this here from a side of the road at a rest stop, but I'll join folks for most of the last hour tomorrow from a landline because obviously there's no rest for those of us that live in reality, that live in the real world, countering those that are attempting to force the landline.
02:35:03.000A false reality on us to break our will and train us just to accept surreal levels of government intrusion and propaganda and disinformation designed to be ridiculous.
02:35:16.000Because once people buy into a ridiculous lie, now their threshold is higher and higher for what could ever wake them up.
02:35:27.000And this is a serious psychological Warfare tactic that they're engaging in.
02:35:32.000Dr. Webster-Tarpley agreed with me yesterday that this is, uh, they're, they're putting out all these little pieces of, okay, uh, we didn't kill a bear and he didn't shoot at us, so he didn't put his wife in front of us.
02:35:44.000And, you know, they've got that tinker toy stealth helicopter.
02:35:47.000We were sitting around the office saying, what does this look like yesterday?
02:35:49.000I said it's clearly a stealth helicopter, probably a remote control.
02:35:53.000They flew in there with incendiaries in it to explode it.
02:35:57.000I said, then again, add to the whole, "Oh, look, it's there!" But the telltale signs that it did come out, it's a stealth helicopter, drone, obviously.
02:36:24.000There is over, when he was head of Star Wars in the late 70s, when it was still a secret program, there is over, over, 100, and this was again in 1979, stealth robotic space drones with
02:36:41.000Sabo DU Meteor gun weapons and basically just takes the meteor system and and similar to a meteor coming in at 30,000 miles an hour by the time it accelerates over accelerates it with boosters over 40,000 miles an hour and is a decapitation weapon it doesn't have a nuclear explosion but the kinetic energy is similar to a low yield has incredible penetration power and can destroy cases one mile under the largest mount so let's understand folks
02:37:11.000There's an entire secret military, an entire secret giant system, and as I called it before anybody else did, just because I understand the enemy, the globalistic scientific dictatorship of folks, Kim trailing us every day, giant secret program, now partially declassified, the very same system Uh, that is putting fluoride in our water for 60 years.
02:37:30.000Now, admittedly, the brain damages from reduced fertility.
02:37:49.000Now, continuing, getting into the Bin Laden information.
02:37:53.000Ladies and gentlemen, when I came out Sunday night and said it was a spy op, it's because I knew Bin Laden had died at least nine years before.
02:38:00.000It was because I've known from top sources they were going to roll him out of the politically expedient time.
02:38:06.000It was The way he came out, the way he delivered it, the way that they were already trying to menace Pakistan, hundreds of other points, and then on Monday, we came out.
02:38:16.000It's not that we're just saying everything's a conspiracy, or that National Media TV, you name it, asked me.
02:38:22.000Well Alex, I mean, you're not alone with the conspiracy.
02:38:27.000This is part of the clash of civilizations.
02:38:30.000This is part of this entire system that's meant to overthrow our classic and basic canons of a free society in the name of them protecting us.
02:38:50.000You've got a better chance of dying in sports accidents.
02:38:53.000There are more than 50 deaths a year in football at all levels, public school, college, and then up to NFL.
02:39:01.000I mean, do we have checkpoints for that?
02:39:03.000I noticed right after it happened, they said, see, we're going to take more of your rights now.
02:39:07.000You've got to have locally trained people in all your malls.
02:39:10.000We already have the TSA PSAs put out three months ago to local police that they're now going to train police and have a TSA manager in the mall.
02:39:18.000We have the video of the TSA already in the malls.
02:39:21.000They're getting us ready for the total takeover of society.
02:39:25.000And so we know it's all part of a larger continuity.
02:40:46.000I mean, folks, why do you think it came out in major news the day after 9-11 that an Air Force base in Nebraska, Berkshire Hathaway head Warren Buffett, the day before, had told everybody they had to be there in a hangar for a secret meeting, and he got the Fortune 100 leaders there in a private meeting to lay down the law to them about what had just happened.
02:41:10.000This is a strategic operation where they do something so criminal So obvious.
02:41:14.000They want people that are awake to know it was an inside job.
02:41:17.000That's why they blow the buildings up on purpose.
02:41:19.000That's why Larry Silverstein tells you he blew up Building 7 so that those that are awake are horrified of these criminals.
02:41:51.000It is also a system so that they can prepare to hype up more fear, introduce the four new leaders of al-Qaeda, three of which are all born in the U.S., two of which on record completely work for U.S.
02:42:06.000intelligence, Adam Gadahn and Amr Allalaf, totally admitted.
02:43:49.000And they are basically floundering because most of the calls I hear to talk radio now have shifted to people really waking up and questioning, and so they are trying to come out and ridicule... Listen, Aaron, how's the phone coming in now?
02:44:42.000That's why people are listening, it's a sign-off.
02:44:43.000I think I deserve to have what's said about me said.
02:44:46.000Not to know who the guy was, but I heard him.
02:44:48.000Uh, or maybe someone ran a sign-off on him.
02:44:51.000They went on and talked about how dangerous and despicable and evil I was, and how we're nuts, and how we, you know, we're putting out distractions from our real problem, Propeller Reserve.
02:45:03.000Funny, those guys would talk about Propeller Reserve years ago, but now all the big mainline conservatives do, because we're always pushing the envelope towards reality as the establishment tried to drag it into La La Land.
02:45:15.000And it went on and on, and I shouldn't be the talker's keynote person, and he didn't know, and he should boycott it.
02:45:52.000Everything we talked about four or five days ago, that Sunday night, has now come true, been proven, because we're following the globalist roadmap.
02:46:40.000On the same talking points, Aaron, then I tuned in my 30-minute drive home, through a couple more stations, and heard them saying, who are these crazy conspiracy theorists that don't buy it?
02:47:02.000So we have hit such a sight, guys, with the truth.
02:47:04.000The globalists are only thinking they can get away with more, more, more, killing Kennedy in broad daylight, blowing up the towers in front with everybody in broad daylight getting away with it.
02:47:13.000But they've overreached and this thing is a chain reaction and they can't kill me because that'll just give us more credibility.
02:47:20.000If they set us up, nobody believes them anymore and makes us a martyr.
02:47:23.000They are losing and they've got all their minions and attack dogs coming after Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com
02:47:31.000This is so big, I probably should be able to left town, but you guys are doing just a fabulous job, but I mean, I can't believe I'm in the middle of history like this, and all my listeners are, that we literally are carrying the banner of truth, of real investigation, of real facts, of trying to understand the truth, trying to be honorable, trying to really do the research, and we're just proving it right over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, and the system is in Total panic.
02:47:58.000And that's why everywhere, the left, the right, the entire establishment is showing themselves because they need this new 9-11.
02:48:11.000For a war on Pakistan, that's geopolitical from the international perspective, foreign policy.
02:48:18.000But they're also looking at the false flag in the middle of this depression and rising gas prices and plunging stock markets and exploding commodities.
02:48:28.000They are looking so the American people don't get mad and have a peaceful revolution, a restoration of the republic.
02:48:35.000At this key point is to predict that they want wars and domestic terror.
02:48:40.000And we, all of us, need to get the maximum word out.
02:48:43.000And it's the listeners and the other info warriors and the other patriots that know about the New World Order, understand the real paradigm.
02:49:20.000You've got to go 110% We are making history on the side of good.
02:49:24.000If we beat these people, our ancestors will literally use us as an example to fight the tyranny of their day because there's always evil people struggling against good.
02:50:12.000And as Tarpley said yesterday, lies have very short legs.
02:50:16.000And when people who are good and know the truth and don't care about peer pressure stand up and tell it like it is, it's like that country song.
02:50:23.000We ought to come back to the next segment.
02:50:25.000I think it's Aaron Tippett with you got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything.
02:50:29.000We ought to play a couple of minutes of that before you close out the show coming in.
02:50:33.000And he talks about, you know what, daddy wasn't the most popular guy in town, but he always stood for what was right.
02:50:42.000And if daddy would have sold out a little more, we'd have lived in a bigger house.
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02:53:58.000And we are back, but we want to let the song roll for just a minute.
02:54:31.000And we have the system who's just perpetuated by lies.
02:54:34.000And we're in this battle over the truth.
02:54:37.000We're fighting against literally the 1984 system of total deception on purpose, reverting the truth, spinning lies to become even deeper lies, fighting against a literal Emanuel Goldstein bin Laden myth, a guy they had on the shelf to roll out at any time, and now they've done so at a politically expedient moment.
02:54:59.000Even though their story's falling apart, you see everyone attacking Alex Jones and the others who've really been Pointing out that the emperor is naked all along for all these years.
02:55:09.000But of course, it's distracting from so much other important news.
02:55:14.000Gerald Salente wrote an interesting article today called, Bigger Than Bin Laden, America's New Public Enemy Number One.
02:55:22.000Trying to put focus on Bernanke at the Fed and their very destructive policy.
02:55:27.000Far more destructive than 9-11 or Bin Laden could have been.
02:55:31.000While Obama grandstands, we have his allies like Bill Richardson saying killing Bin Laden means Obama can pass a climate bill.
02:55:41.000Even deeper in the news today we have the Obama administration trying to put a tax on cars by the mile using an implanted electronic device in the car they say but then they spend that too and say actually this is not a policy but it'll be implemented after a two-year study but it's not a policy of the president or his administration but they will be putting trackers in your car for an even greater tax really restricting freedom of travel
02:56:09.000Even more than any gas or highway tax could.
02:56:32.000Prince Charles telling America it needs to cut down on steaks for the sake of the world after his family just had one of the most lavish weddings ever.
02:56:40.000Uh, in history, and we have shocking stuff.
02:56:43.000The falling apart of American society, Detroit, uh, nearly half of, uh, their people, 40 percent, excuse me.
02:56:54.00047% of Detroiters are functionally illiterate.
02:56:57.000I'm not reading too well myself, but it's just devastating statistics.
02:57:01.000Everything that's being distracted by this big Obama-bin Laden lie.
02:57:06.000But we must fight back against this system.
02:57:09.000We will win the info war, and they can't hide the truth.
02:58:02.000So, on the rebroadcast, Paul Joseph Watson, an incredible interview with Dr. Steve Pichesnik, former administration official, counterterrorism expert, really just laying down the gauntlet on the phony Bin Laden story.
02:58:18.000Paul Craig Roberts, Steve Watson, and Alex Jones, all coming up in the rebroadcast.
02:58:23.000I'm Aaron Dykes, and this is InfoWars.com.