Dr. Michael Pachinik is a Board Ex-Expert and Board-Examinant Level psychiatrist who served as the Director of Psychological Warfare at five U.S. Departments of Defense and served under five presidents and three state Department of Defense. He has been involved in many secret and clandestine operations and has been a member of the Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization (JIEDDO). He is also the author of The Patriot Games and The War on Terror. He is a former CIA tactical debriefing officer who served in the Counter-Intelligence Division and served as a military intelligence officer. He was also the co-creator of the Patriot Games as well as many other covert operations. Dr. Pachinsik has been invited to testify before a grand jury or federal grand jury.
00:00:56.000He's going to be joining us coming up during the next segment.
00:00:59.000He developed some of the major psychological warfare programs that are currently used today, and he's clearly looked at this latest Bin Laden killing and said you can see all the scripting with PSYOP, but he can confirm that he was dead.
00:01:16.000Pre-2002, as he did on the air in April of 2002 with us.
00:01:20.000So we're going to break down from a former Black Op mastermind exactly what is going on here.
00:01:31.000And again, recapping why they've done this, but even more important, why They staged 9-11 and here is the article where you can read part of his extensive bio and learn more.
00:01:45.000government insider Bin Laden died in 2001 9-1-1 a false flag.
00:01:52.000That is up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.
00:01:59.000And we look forward to having him on with us for 15 minutes of the next hour.
00:02:03.000It'll really just be an hour of air time.
00:02:04.000When we come back, I'm going to go over some of his bio and this article just so people know exactly who they're listening to.
00:02:09.000And then, also, he's been in so many missions, involved in so many things.
00:02:14.000He is the character that Jack Ryan in the Patriot Games series is based on.
00:02:23.000He, and that's on record, he's co-authored many of the books with Tom Clancy.
00:02:27.000He's also, you go to IMDb, the producer on films like Netforce and others.
00:02:33.000I mean, just incredible, and nobody knows what he looks like.
00:02:37.000And he's here with us today because he wants you to know the truth.
00:02:40.000I hope people realize the magnitude of this.
00:02:44.000And obviously, we'll let things settle out.
00:02:47.000And if he can do it, come back on with us again next week as things continue to unfold.
00:02:54.000So we're going to be breaking all of that down today.
00:02:58.000He of course is a board examiner level psychiatrist, ran many large mental institutions, also worked under five presidents, three state departments, and just involved in innumerable secret and clandestine operations.
00:03:14.000Maybe I should get him out of the gates to tell us about some of the stuff that he can now talk about.
00:03:20.000Just so people know how important this information is and the fact that he's risking a lot coming on air and saying that he talked to a top U.S.
00:03:30.000general who could confirm 9-11 was an inside job and he's ready to testify before a federal or state grand jury right now.
00:03:40.000He's not playing games and this is the real deal.
00:03:45.000But as he pointed out yesterday, he's not really risking anything.
00:03:49.000Because if we don't turn this around, folks, there is no society, there is no future.
00:03:53.000I mean, every time I look at my dear little children, how sweet and innocent and good they are, and there's always corruption, there's always problems, but when you stop resisting it, when you just give in to it, when you let total delusion rule the day, it infects all of society, then total confidence is lost, and you become a banana republic.
00:04:14.000And we are on our way to that, right now.
00:04:18.000The controllers try to sell us on how much they want to protect us.
00:04:22.000The meme they're pushing right now is that the government's job is to protect you.
00:04:39.000Well, what's most important is the Bill of Rights, Constitution, Declaration of Independence, the free market, private property, the family.
00:04:46.000That's the engine that the limited government is supposed to protect, not protect me by having checkpoints on the highways everywhere, which they're now announcing CBS News.
00:04:56.000We'll talk about it all with Dr. Steve Pichetnik straight ahead.
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00:06:08.000Well, for the next hour and change, Dr. Steve Pachinik is our guest.
00:06:16.000Music He served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and Senior Policy Planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Shultz, and James Baker.
00:06:25.000Dr. Progenic continues to consult the Department of Defense.
00:06:28.000He received a Council on Foreign Relations CFR Fellowship where he was recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management.
00:06:37.000In the position, he was created the Office of Combat Terrorism, the Family Liaison Office, He recognized the medical department within the State Department and merged and reorganized the Department of Cultural Affairs and the U.S.
00:06:51.000Information Agency into one organization, the International Communications Agency.
00:06:56.000Dr. Pachinik is the author and creator of 26 New York Times bestsellers.
00:07:56.000I mean, he is Jack Ryan, and then some.
00:07:59.000That character, that's why we've got Harrison Ford's image up there as Jack Ryan today, since we don't have a photo of a Dr. Pachinik.
00:08:08.000And, I mean, I gotta say, at certain levels, you know, they make it mythical, the Navy SEALs and the Delta Force and all that stuff.
00:08:15.000I mean, this guy If people like to get scared of those types, people ought to really be creeped out in a way by just how much this guy knows where he's been.
00:08:26.000I know he's going to probably laugh at that in a minute, but the point is...
00:08:32.000You know, putting out disinfo, I'm going to say this is true, so the Red Brigades would go ahead and kill him because they thought it would destabilize Italy if they didn't.
00:08:44.000For the Pentagon setting up the modern black op program that's run today, this is the ultimate guy to get on to analyze the black op we saw Sunday, the disinfo, the cartoonishness of it.
00:09:32.000We're seeing record Facebook accounts being deleted, MySpace, people being knocked off major news site comments where they normally allowed to send.
00:09:41.000The system is scared to death right now, and I can officially tell you this blew up in their face.
00:09:48.000Now, I want to go to Dr. Pachinik here in just a moment, because he doesn't want to toot his horn, but I mean, if he could, just people know how serious, because you can just Google his name.
00:09:59.000I spent over an hour last night Just the government overthrows, the black ops, running the Taliban against the Russians.
00:10:34.000government insider, Dr. Steve Pucinich.
00:10:36.000A man who held numerous different influential posts under five different presidents, but under the Secretary of State under three, still works for the Defense Department, shockingly told Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001, and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury on how top general told him directly that 9-11 was a false flag inside job.
00:10:57.000I mean, this is the kind of stuff can get us killed, folks.
00:10:59.000Pachinic cannot be dismissed as a conspiracy theorist.
00:11:02.000He served as the deputy assistant secretary of state under three administrations, Nixon, Ford, Carter, while working under Reagan and Bush Sr., and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense.
00:11:12.000A former U.S. Navy captain, went as high as colonel, I believe, before he got out.
00:11:18.000Pachinic achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard School as he simultaneously completed his Ph.D. at MIT, recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as deputy assistant secretary for state management.
00:11:49.000Military and intelligence communities, other agencies, the U.S.
00:11:52.000government, while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world.
00:11:59.000Petrennik also served as senior policy planner under Secretary Henry Kissinger.
00:12:04.000Senior policy planner, Cyrus Vance, George Saltz, he's the top kingmakers, James Baker, and worked for George W. Bush's re-election campaign against Al Gore.
00:12:12.000His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades.
00:12:51.000And how dangerous are these cornered rats now?
00:12:55.000Well, I think, you know, when you tell a lie, you're going to unwind that lie by the very fact that you've created a lie.
00:13:03.000The nature of creating a lie in psychological warfare is that you have to be consistent, make sure that all the details Are intertwined and are credible.
00:13:14.000So you gotta think of the President of the United States, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Mullen, who by the way, his father was a publicist for the William Morris Agency, and then the intelligence community.
00:13:24.000It's not an accident that you have this entirely contrived story.
00:13:30.000It's just like you had Disneyland with a key character who's already dead.
00:13:36.000And in order to reaffirm the storyline, that is, to make sure that the President of the United States looked good, a man like Axelrod or all his advisors, including Obama himself, was particularly suited to the lie, distortions, and deception, because that's how he came to power.
00:13:55.000He sits down with a bunch of his own cronies.
00:13:58.000They sit down and group-think, which you've talked about before on your radio.
00:14:02.000Every one of the national security advisors who have their roles there because they're betweens and they're sycophants to the president.
00:14:09.000They're all kowtowing down, come together, and create this fictional story in psychological warfare that makes no sense.
00:14:17.000And many of the present people in psychological warfare were never trained 20, 30 years ago because they didn't understand the psychology, they don't understand the anthropology, they don't understand that the American public, you do not psyops the American public.
00:14:31.000That was a rule of thumb that we had under four to five presidents, that if you tried to psyops the American public, and it broke when you had George Bush Jr., when he created the psychological warfare, and then created the 9-11 through deception, distortion, false flag, Stand down.
00:14:48.000And then we had before him, we had Lyndon Baines Johnson.
00:14:51.000It goes on both sides when he created distortion of a false flag in the Gulf of Phuket.
00:14:58.000And we had FDR, as Donald Rumsfeld stupidly accused and said that if anybody like the Kinnick is accusing the Republicans of creating 9-11, Rumsfeld said that's on public September 12th.
00:15:11.0009-Eleven, 2011, he said, 2001, he said, Steve Kucinich, if he accuses us, the Republicans of 9-Eleven, then we have to accuse Franklin Roosevelt of doing a stand-out.
00:15:22.000Well, of course I accuse him of doing a stand-out, because Paul Wolfowitz, the neocon, Salman Khalilzad, Uh, uh, uh, uh, Brian Fukuyama, you had Dennis Ross, you had Richard Perle, and you had Scooter Libby, all trained at the University of Chicago under Wollstetter.
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00:20:42.000What happens now when you've distorted the story and you can't get a consistency, just as we saw in George Bush Jr., which was, well, we have weapons of mass destruction.
00:20:52.000There is no weapons of mass destruction.
00:20:54.000Then suddenly, the military, our formidable military, our generals, and our army generals in particular, are forced to change their intelligence in order to be consistent with the White House.
00:21:07.000But thank God for a lot of our CIA operatives who were not on contract.
00:21:11.000Well, sir, that's what, I want to stop you, doctor, and continue, but that's what Ray McGovern, I don't know if you knew him, but he was the morning briefer for Reagan and Bush Sr.
00:21:23.000They really detailed on from special forces.
00:21:27.000Well, sir, that's what, I want to stop you, doctor, and continue, but that's what Ray McGovern, I don't know if you knew him, but he was the morning briefer for Reagan and Bush Sr.
00:21:43.000He says they can't even do real national security assessments anymore because it's all wild land.
00:21:49.000And once you put a PSYOP out into the public, the way the human brain works and all individuals being limited in their perception, it then is taken back and received by your own system.
00:22:00.000And it basically, for lack of a better word, makes the military industrial complex drink their own Kool-Aid.
00:22:07.000Well, it's not only the military industry, by the way, it's very important for the public to understand this.
00:22:15.000I'm just a simple American who was grateful for the benefits I was given and earned in terms of the ability to serve my country and at the same time be in the only country where I could criticize my own president and still work for them and be so loyal to my country because I was willing to go online and particularly serve my military, our army generals and I'm not some superhero.
00:22:36.000and be teaching at the War College every year.
00:22:38.000That's a privilege for me. - No, I understand, Dr. Pachanich.
00:22:41.000- Alex does, but I have to understand the public.
00:22:45.000I'm the same guy that your father is, who's a dentist or a mechanic out there or an army lieutenant or a junior officer because they stood for something they believed in.
00:22:58.000I am tired of the American public being told these lies.
00:23:06.000What happens when the PSYOPs, which was poorly constructed... You were talking about where they get their CIA people and that most of the intelligence is run by private mercs.
00:23:16.000They get the intelligence people from all the military industrial complex, L3 Communications, Northrop Grumman.
00:23:23.000Any of these companies around the Washington Beltway will provide intelligence to you right away because they want those contracts.
00:23:32.000Now remember America, and particularly the Alex Jones audience, Supporting our national security does not mean supporting our military-industrial complex.
00:23:44.000They have been hogs that need to be slaughtered.
00:23:47.000I will quote one of my most favorite presidents, who unfortunately I was too young to serve, but I did always admire him, and that was General Eisenhower, who warned us when he left, beware of the military-industrial complex.
00:24:02.000This is a great man who is exceedingly modest.
00:24:05.000Who is exceedingly careful of the American national security and every week he literally, Alex, would call up the Pentagon to make sure the generals didn't blow out their staff or promote things and create units that didn't exist.
00:24:21.000That's the type of generals we had and people who cared about a country.
00:24:26.000What we have is Disneyland on steroids.
00:24:30.000And what's worse is that Disneyland is killing our heroes, our American women and men and young people who are going out to die for civilian orders that are being used and manipulated by a president who's never served our country as a Questionable background in many, many places.
00:25:29.000Whether you're Republican, Democrat, liberal or conservative, it's irrelevant.
00:25:34.000Sir, let me stop you because... Absolutely, because we have limited time and obviously you're going to be back with us a lot.
00:25:41.000The issue now, what happened is, If I didn't know which unit of the Special Forces, and I've worked with Special Forces over 30 years, and part of it, I was involved in development of Delta Force because in the beginning of hostage negotiation, we didn't have a comparable unit to the SAS.
00:26:00.000One of the concerns that I had, and I said, if I think any unit's going to be sent in there on the basis of publicity, and believe me, I have a lot of respect for the men and women who serve in the Navy and in all Special Forces, But particularly, I work with the military, army, the special forces, which, by the way, you have never heard anything about.
00:26:17.000You have never heard about any of the army men who I know, and the units that I specifically know.
00:26:23.000Nor will I tell you of the men and women who are in the army, and they're serving this country, and they've never had a movie about them.
00:26:32.000Yet today, I would have sworn, and I said to Alex Jones beforehand, if I had to predict which unit was going to get the biggest publicity, and if I were Admiral Mullen, who's concerned about this publicity and the publicity of the Navy because they have no goal whatsoever right now.
00:26:48.000Strategically, I would have said they would have used a SEAL Navy team.
00:27:46.000Obviously, this morning they came out and said his daughter, who they have at a military base in Pakistan, who was left there, and he has all these wives, all these concubines, all this made-up cut out, just like they told us that Pat Tillman was killed fighting al-Qaeda and it turned out they just murdered him, or the same thing with Private Lynch with Bruckheimer on record producing it.
00:28:06.000If folks don't know about that, BBC admits it.
00:28:09.000They're now announcing that, oh, not only did bin Laden not use his wife as a shield, not only did he not shoot at them, now they grabbed him, took him out, and then shot him somewhere else, and they just keep changing it, changing it, changing it, and then the and they just keep changing it, changing it, changing it, and then the SEAL Team 6, as you know, is the most seeker of the teams and has other teams associated
00:28:33.000That's why they use that team so that other SEALs are ignorant and can never discover that it didn't happen.
00:28:43.000And you're breaking down what teams you think are involved, what happened.
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00:33:46.000Dr. Steve Pachinik is our guest, and he's breaking down as a psyops expert who really wrote the book on much of the modern system that this is completely phony.
00:34:17.000A, no one would believe it because it was exposed beforehand.
00:34:20.000B, they wanted to keep that boogeyman alive a while, now that he's not useful anymore, by killing him in the fairyland, in the land of Nod or the land that Tinkerbell lives in.
00:34:36.000By doing that, Now they revive him and say, oh my gosh, look, the terrorists are now everywhere.
00:35:22.000That's all to create inconsistencies in the fake narrative because somehow it lends credibility to it because then people say, well, they did kill him, but we're being lied to about exactly how.
00:35:33.000And the burial at sea, which they say is the Sharia law, and then it's the opposite of Sharia law.
00:35:39.000Then it makes it about did they follow Sharia law instead of why did they throw him in the ocean to get rid of him?
00:35:47.000So, sir, as a one of the top PSYOP experts out there on record, doctor, break down not just the fact that, you know, it's a lie because you're inside sources and being on record.
00:35:59.000But looking at the official fable, I mean, I think you said it best.
00:36:04.000The SEALs are the politicized special forces group.
00:36:07.000Then there's Delta that you helped found.
00:36:09.000And during the break, you said, yes, you're correct, but I can't talk about it.
00:36:13.000But obviously, through my contacts, there are a whole bunch of other squadrons with other jobs, not just anti-terror, the surveillance groups, the plainclothes groups.
00:36:22.000I mean, there's all sorts of groups way above that, but you can't get into that.
00:36:26.000But obviously, they use the politicized group with this phantom SEAL Team 6, so the other SEALs can't even find out it's a fraud.
00:36:36.000The real issue, again, in the narrative that you want to create in PSYOPs, when you create a war like 9-11, which is deception, denial, false flag, and stand down that all your people know about, you need to have a bad guy.
00:36:49.000So the bad guy was suddenly Saddam Osama Bin Laden.
00:36:52.000But in this narrative, because Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, and the U.S.
00:36:57.000and the Neocons were not very bright in understanding even PSYOPs for war, They created two bad guys, Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden.
00:37:05.000And a lot of us got confused because Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein has never been a Muslim.
00:37:15.000And basically we had two wars going on with two Unspecified targets.
00:37:21.000We went into two countries without any clear exposition of what the reasons were.
00:37:26.000So we had this incredible science that made no sense, no internal consistency.
00:37:31.000When people in the intelligence community came back to Bush and said, this is not true, we don't have weapons of mass destruction.
00:37:37.000Still the only fable that was out there to sustain this myth of the war, of why we were fighting terrorists that didn't exist.
00:37:45.000And we had created under the Carter administration and subsequently in the Bush's administration, we had to have this Samson Polo, Osama Bin Laden, who was somehow scurrying about in the Athenian continent, Tora Bora, with a renal dialysis machine.
00:38:00.000And I said 10 years ago on Alex Jones' show, this is nonsense.
00:38:10.000He died already six months after the 9-11 attack.
00:38:14.000He was, has, his number two man instead of the Taliban, is a physician.
00:38:20.000And by the way, from a tactical point of view and a strategic point of view, his death means absolutely nothing in the real world of intelligence.
00:38:28.000The point is that Obama is trying to resurrect his career and trying to get re-elected and it means that Panetta wants to have credibility that he did something in the CIA when, in fact, he was a disaster to the CIA.
00:38:40.000He killed more civilians in Pakistan than any terrorist did.
00:38:44.000He created more drone attacks than any terrorist.
00:38:47.000We had more CIA operatives die because of his faulty understanding.
00:38:51.000And we converted an entire CIA, which is intelligence or human-oriented, into special forces and into a killing unit.
00:39:00.000Now, this does not involve the generals Petraeus and our military men who've done a formidable job, but they are also at the behest of civilians who've never been to war.
00:39:11.000So when the President of the United States, Obama, said, without any experience, after picking up the Nobel Peace Prize, which was absurd, And then went to war the next day in Afghanistan after giving this peace talk to the Muslims saying we're all brothers.
00:39:23.000You could see the inconsistency and the lies.
00:39:26.000And now this politicized drama, which makes no sense.
00:39:29.000All the inconsistencies are unwinding.
00:39:31.000But we needed Osama bin Laden, or the story was needed, in order to get the bad man.
00:39:36.000The reason he's now discovered, and ostensibly, this attack on a mortuary, which I've never, you know, this is the most absurd story I've ever heard, Legitimizes, number one, the fact that this entire system of intelligence, which, by the way, Americans have to understand, there are over 850,000 contractors.
00:39:56.000Contractors with top secret clearances.
00:39:59.000Now that is the most absurd thing I have ever heard.
00:40:10.000Now, from my own layman research, total renal failure, kidney failure for laymen out there, the disease he had.
00:40:19.000I went online to a whole bunch of mainline medical sites last night and on the outside they were saying maybe you can live five, six years.
00:40:29.000Uh, once you're in this position, but if you have this disease, even less.
00:40:33.000So, then I went and pulled up old articles from even the mid-90s saying he had it then and that it was on record.
00:40:51.000That's why I said on your show even two and nine years ago that Dr. Julie, one of the physicians of the CIA, went to the American hospital in Dubai.
00:41:00.000He was already dying under the Clinton administration.
00:41:03.000So you have Clinton implicated, who is another prevaricator.
00:41:07.000And that was used subsequently in 9-11 because they knew his life was limited.
00:42:04.000His kids are all going to Oxford and the rest of it.
00:42:09.000Now his daughter, but we're not seeing her, pops up and says it's all true.
00:42:14.000This family, from my study, correct me if I'm wrong, goes back to British intelligence.
00:42:18.000They didn't just send bin Laden in to be the money man for the Mujahideen that you met while you were there running some of the military operations because he fell off an Apple truck.
00:42:28.000Now, my intel is they made the deal with him and his family at the time to let him play the part of the bad guy.
00:42:34.000And since then, they've been given even bigger U.S.
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00:47:37.000Let me tell you one principle of counter-terrorism and psychological warfare.
00:47:42.000Any terrorist that has been apprehended, for the most part, has a rule of thumb.
00:47:47.000For example, Carlos not only served intelligence of the Soviets, he served intelligence for the Mossad, for the French, who, of course, questionably called him BNP.
00:47:58.000So, within this game of counter-terrorism, which is really a game, a very sick game, we create what is called, under Kissinger, strategic tension.
00:48:07.000We create strategic tensions so we have a legitimate use, a good reason to go into a country to either invade, suppress, or extract whatever mineral rights.
00:48:33.000And he had relationships with Jews in the Middle East and the diamond business and Israel will go absolutely nuts, but the New York Times article years ago even reported how a lot of his own money came out of the Jewish diamond dealers in Tel Aviv.
00:48:49.000And his mother, Yemeni, usually would probably be Jewish, but I don't want to get into this entire issue other than the fact that people have to understand, when I went after Noriega, which also cost my life because he hunted me down, accused me of being an assassin, whether it's right or wrong, let's not worry about that, but he served Our intelligence, he served Latin American intelligence, he served Cuban intelligence, he served many intelligence.
00:49:14.000For the same reason when we went after Saddam Hussein, by the way I do have to correct you, Saddam Hussein was not executed with all due respect Alex Jones.
00:49:22.000We never execute a leader of a country and particularly with Bush Jr.
00:49:45.000can go in front of a federal court, and if he can swear that without holding Cheney's hands the same way he did at the mission, I will be surprised.
00:49:52.000Well, sir, that's like the old Kings rule where kings don't kill kings.
00:49:56.000That's why twice... That's exactly... That's why twice with Napoleon they put him on islands.
00:50:22.000All of these so-called villains are used for national security purposes and the vehicle is always a psychological operation to mobilize the American public through the most cynical of all statements, national security, freedom of speech, and in fact what happens is their suppression.
00:50:40.000So the inherent paradox of what our country does to ourselves will come back to bite the government repeatedly because the American government will not tolerate it.
00:50:50.000Doctor, this is too incredible, and the time we've got only about 35 minutes with you.
00:50:55.000I don't want to bump Lord Mocton who's popping in, but I'm getting really tempted to do it here in a minute.
00:51:13.000The four Al-Qaeda leaders... He must have been restless at school, Alex.
00:51:20.000I was restless, but every time you mention a point, then I can see all the data that's public, not to mention all the data, inside data you have, but it's just all confirmed.
00:51:28.000When I was on RT, international TV, a few days ago, they showed the four top Al-Qaeda people, and three of them, Gadhan, Al-Awlaki, and one other, they admit, all born in the US, and then I know their ledgers, Amir al-Awlaki, Fox News admits, secretly at the Pentagon, two months after 9-11, dining with the Secretary of the Army, he runs.
00:51:50.000The Fort Hood, Patsy Attacks, the Underwear Bomber, the Times Square, the Shoe Bomber, they get the drugged McCollum on the plane.
00:52:46.000And I'm sure he worked for many other intelligence services, including the Brits and others.
00:52:50.000You know, because in that game, and this is speculation on that part, in that game of counterterrorism, which unfortunately is the game, it is always service of multiple masters in order to justify what we have, what they do, what national governments do.
00:53:06.000But Ben Laden was always dealing in the diamond business.
00:53:19.000London Guardian headline, September 11th, 2001.
00:53:23.000It had already, uh, September 12th, that he, that, that all these top brass and Bush people were meeting at the Carlisle Group meeting with the Bin Ladens there that day.
00:53:41.000So basically the question is how do you break these connections and how does the American public stop this nonsensical dangers?
00:53:49.000It's a cynical disruption, as you call it.
00:53:52.000It's destroying the fibers of our country, and the answer is you have to get out on the streets and start insisting on freedom of speech, insisting that you have to organize.
00:54:05.000They don't need to have their homework to protect the country, and they have to have a man of truth.
00:54:11.000And they have to force the legislators, most of whom are cowardly.
00:54:15.000Because, whether you're a Republican or a Democrat, remember the dynamics of a legislator is the panderer.
00:54:21.000He first says to you very nicely, oh please vote for me, please vote for me, this is what I can do.
00:54:26.000Well, it's like saying a physician like me, if I weren't a medical student, I'd go up to you, Alex, and I'd say, listen, I want you to pay for the fact that I'm going to be a doctor, but I'm not a doctor right now, but I promise you I'm going to be a doctor.
00:54:38.000You're going to say, what are you, crazy?
00:54:39.000You haven't shown anything that you can do to be a doctor.
00:55:02.000CBS News is confirming the president has now given an interview that will be played later this week that they are not going to release the photos and they say Obama said the risk of releasing outweighed the benefits.
00:55:17.000conspiracy theorists around the world will just claim the photos are doctored anyway.
00:55:21.000And there is a real risk that releasing the photos will only serve to inflame public opinion in the Middle East.
00:55:27.000And he went on to attack conspiracy theorists.
00:55:30.000This has been released by CBS News that Obama is responding to conspiracy theorists.
00:56:03.000What happens when you attack the government, whether it's under Bush Jr. or Obama, and you're seeing Obama use it, but he's not as effective as Bush Jr. was, because Bush Jr. had more CIA operatives there who had a history of PSYOPs.
00:56:18.000The truth is, when you don't know what to say, you immediately denigrate people like me.
00:56:24.000In particular, he's talking about people like you, Alex, and all of your audience, by saying we're conspiracy theorists.
00:56:30.000Well, you know, the beauty of life is that there are people who are trying to do nasty things.
00:56:36.000And whether we call a conspiracy theorist or not, or he says it's silliness, that doesn't mitigate the fact that there's truth.
00:56:43.000And a man who is not able to tell the truth or come to terms with the truth, then uses these very flippant words like conspiracy theorists, silly people, birthists, or truists.
00:56:56.000These are code words in order to make sure that you're put into a corner where you can't say anything and you're categorized.
00:57:03.000That's a very easy way to delegitimize you in psychological warfare.
00:57:07.000But unfortunately, the president really is not very smart.
00:57:10.000Contrary to his own self-esteem, and they can listen to this at the White House, he's not very bright.
00:57:15.000And I'm saying that because he never really had an education in psychology, never really had an education in the real world how it works, other than the political world of corruption, deception, denial, and lie.
00:57:27.000But he doesn't really know how to effectively use it.
00:57:30.000More importantly, neither do anybody around him.
00:57:33.000That's why the storyline and this atrocity and ridiculousness, if you want to talk about the president's own words, silliness, of the body of Osama Bin Laden that's been dead for nine years but he can't show you a picture of it, is so absurd it flashes back.
00:58:33.000And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.
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01:01:10.000We know Al-Qaeda was created and controlled by the criminal element that runs our government and other governments.
01:01:32.000We know they use them as a pretext to launch wars.
01:01:34.000We know they use them as a pretext to have domestic police take crackdowns and to make what government and corporations do secret from us, we the people, while they rob us through government control that's setting up monopolies for them.
01:01:46.000But clearly, we have said that as the economy implodes, as they launch these new wars, that they would then bring in state terror.
01:01:54.000And this death of Bin Laden is a psychological resurrection of him.
01:01:58.000Then they introduce the four new Bin Ladens, three of which are on record trained in the U.S., two of which, on record, absolutely work for the federal government at the highest levels of black ops.
01:02:08.000And they're so arrogant, it's just admitted everywhere.
01:02:10.000But still, it's not kosher to point that out.
01:02:13.000So they're rolling them out just like they did pre-9-11.
01:02:16.000I'm seeing the exact same preconditioning.
01:02:18.000So, maximum, maximum, total red alert.
01:02:23.000Everyone, and in fact I'm going to ask Aaron Dykes to do this next hour, we need to get the White House number, the Congress number, the switchboard, launch Operation Expose the Government Terrorist Part 2.
01:02:35.000I haven't done this in 10 years, since July of 2000.
01:02:45.000We need to get an article out today or tomorrow by one of the great researchers there pointing all of this out with the phone numbers and call them.
01:02:56.000We need links to the articles to all these White House advisors like Robert Shapiro and the Financial Times of London saying a terror attack would sure help us.
01:03:49.000All that stands between pre-humanity, our children, the innocent people, the folks on fixed incomes, people on social security, people that have paid into public and private pensions, the globalists that have done this in every other country, they've fully taken over.
01:04:03.000The only thing that stands between us and real hot tyranny, I mean the arrest wagons going around, the FEMA camps being filled, mushroom clouds, the only thing that stands between us and that Is we the people look in the mirror.
01:04:19.000If you look at the mainstream media, hundreds of newspapers, prestigious establishment magazines are lowering their guns on us from their pile of cess.
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01:04:37.000When we come back, we're going to talk about this.
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01:06:28.000We're back live, it's the Alex Jones Show, May 5th, 2011, coming up at the top of the hour.
01:06:34.000Steve Arpchenik, top spy masterworks under five different US presidents to talk about the Bin Laden fable.
01:06:42.000Now we have President Barack Obama mimicking George W. Bush.
01:06:48.000He's descended on ground zero, and Obama, according to the Associated Press, is now basically repeating Exact similar phrases that George Bush used as he stood on the rubble in those days after 9-11 as Obama desperately attempts to seize on the political capital that this bin Laden raid has afforded him.
01:07:10.000But I'm delighted to say We've been joined by Paul Craig Roberts, who many of you will know of course was the father of Reaganomics, served as Assistant Treasury Secretary under Ronald Reagan, former editor of the Wall Street Journal, and of course Mr. Roberts is a prolific author and writer whose articles we eagerly await.
01:07:34.000We've posted his latest article on prisonplanet.com this morning.
01:07:39.000Mr. Roberts, great to have you on the show today.
01:08:04.000Not so much the Bin Laden part, because I think that's been known for some time, but his statement that he had been told by a general from, I think, Wolfowitz staff that 9-11 was an inside job and that he was willing himself, Steve Pajenik, to Testify on the oath before Congress and reveal the guy's name.
01:08:27.000Now this is an astonishing development.
01:08:53.000You know, I'm not... His credentials are substantial.
01:09:00.000But what puzzles me about it is, I mean, that kind of marks him for a dead man, doesn't it?
01:09:04.000I mean, they're either going to ignore him or they're going to kill him.
01:09:08.000I mean, as well-connected as he's been in government, it seems to me he would know that if he says something like that, he's going to have an accident before anybody takes him up on the offer.
01:10:02.000And he was basically not afraid of that.
01:10:04.000But he's actually coming up as a guest at the top of the hour.
01:10:07.000And that's something I can press him further on in the next hour of the show.
01:10:14.000My question My question for you, Mr Roberts, is you wrote on Monday that the whole Bin Laden thing had, quote, the odour of a staged event.
01:10:24.000Now you've been justified in that assessment with these Situation Room photos that the media told us were an account of Obama and Hillary Clinton watching the live assassination of Bin Laden unfold.
01:10:38.000That has now been documented to be completely fraudulent.
01:10:46.000You've wrote this other article today which is excellent.
01:10:50.000What do you think are the most alarming discrepancies in this whole Bin Laden narrative that we've been sold on by the White House and the media?
01:10:59.000Well, you know Paul, the thing was never believable in the beginning because the original story of a firefight With the heroic SEALs taking on Al-Qaeda, which Rumsfeld described as the most highly trained, the most dangerous, most vicious killers on the planet.
01:11:27.000And so they get, the SEALs get into a firefight with these vicious, highly trained killers and they don't get a scratch.
01:11:35.000So that already tells you something stinks.
01:11:38.000Because anybody can hear a helicopter coming.
01:13:14.000But there are other agendas that this event is being used for.
01:13:18.000For example, the justification of torture is one.
01:13:23.000Probably starting more trouble with Pakistan is another.
01:13:27.000More powers for homeland security is another.
01:13:31.000Probably more false flag attacks that they will say is due to al-Qaeda retaliation for killing bin Laden.
01:13:40.000There are all kinds of agendas that are hiding behind this false story.
01:13:47.000So, the dead giveaway is that If you actually did catch this guy, you wouldn't quickly throw the evidence of your success into the ocean.
01:14:02.000The minute you do that, the whole story becomes suspect, because there's no real explanation for why they dumped the body in the ocean.
01:14:11.000The story they give is obviously a fabrication, and it's incorrect.
01:14:17.000Uh, that they were giving him a quick burial in keeping with Muslim practices.
01:14:21.000This has been challenged by the Muslim demons, they say, that you're supposed to be buried in the ground with your head pointed toward Mecca, and that the only excuse for dumping somebody at sea is if it's a very long voyage and the body is decomposing.
01:14:38.000And so every aspect of the story is phony.
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01:20:23.000Are people in the government now, I'm just speculating, I don't have any idea, are people in the government now seeing that they don't want Obama, some of them don't want Obama again, and they see that he's managed to do this to boost his poll ratings by 24%, and so now they're going to undermine it because they want to get rid of him, or they'd rather have a different puppet, or something, all kinds of things are going on that we don't know about, and that might explain
01:20:52.000Why the administration, the government, is destroying its own story.
01:20:59.000It's not being destroyed by news people.
01:21:02.000The news people are still celebrating the victory over Bin Laden.
01:21:09.000And the news people have given the imprimatur to extra-legal murder of unarmed people.
01:21:19.000So it's not the news media who's exposed.
01:21:22.000It's the government itself that keeps changing the story, and where's the pressure coming from to change the story?
01:21:29.000I mean, why create such massive credibility problems for the government's own story?
01:21:40.000So maybe all the people inside the government are fighting each other over who they want to Run the next time.
01:21:48.000I don't know what's going on, but that's the biggest puzzle to me.
01:21:52.000Maybe somebody on your desk, maybe Steve today, can throw some light on that.
01:22:00.000That is the most interesting question.
01:22:02.000So, the two real questions, and I'll be finished here.
01:22:07.000One is, what are the real agendas that this news event is designed to further?
01:22:16.000And two, why did the government wreck its own story?
01:22:21.000By changing it before 48 hours are over.
01:22:27.000Without any obvious sources of pressure on them to change the story.
01:22:50.000I mean, you've got the press secretary, Carney, who's now being lambasted by all sides of the media as this flounderer, this failure, because he's having difficulty getting the fable straight.
01:23:19.000It's a stone's throw away from a Pakistani military base.
01:23:23.000All the residents have to have ID cards.
01:23:25.000They have to go through checkpoints to get anywhere.
01:23:28.000And the only photos that have been released are of these victims.
01:23:33.000Of course, none of them are Bin Laden.
01:23:35.000It's increasingly starting to look like he wasn't, I mean, We know that every intelligence professional worth their salt said that he's been dead for nine years.
01:23:44.000It's starting to look as if perhaps some members of the Bin Laden family were there and that's what they used as the reason to go in.
01:23:53.000But I mean, it's like in your article today, you quote this email that you received from a reader who asks, you know, why the government so sloppy in its lies that it virtually makes no effort to make them appear credible.
01:24:07.000I mean, why are they so arrogant in their total disregard for the intellect of the American people?
01:24:13.000I think the answer to that, Paul, is they got away with 9-11.
01:24:16.000They blew up two skyscrapers in plain view of everybody, in plain view of their TV cameras.
01:24:22.000We've got recordings all over the world of these buildings being blown up.
01:24:27.000Anybody that looks at those buildings can see they're being blown up.
01:24:40.000If they get away with that, If they can get away with the fable that a few Saudis with box cutters can outwit all 16 American intelligence agencies, all the intelligence agencies of NATO, of Israel even, can outwit NORAD, air traffic control, airport security four times in one morning, can cause the state-of-the-art Pentagon air defenses to fail.
01:25:05.000Anybody can pull off this superhero stuff.
01:27:00.000Well, it's with everything, like you said.
01:27:02.000I mean, Operation Gladio, they got away with that as well.
01:27:06.000And I think it comes down to the fact that when people don't have time or don't have the effort to scratch the surface on these things, They just throw in their lot with the US government as if it's some kind of baseball team, like they scored a major victory.
01:27:23.000I mean, in the aftermath of the bombardment of Iraq, pizza and beer sales went through the roof.
01:27:31.000And it's kind of just this dumbing down, this reduction of what amounts in the end to the slaughter of thousands and millions of people.
01:27:40.000to supporting a baseball team or a football team.
01:27:42.000And that's the kind of post-9-11 mental castration that they're now trying to reinvigorate after this latest fraud.
01:27:53.000Many have suggested that we had these reports a couple of weeks ago about the Pakistani government protesting about the U.S. drone strike simply because of the fact that they've killed so many innocent people in Pakistan.
01:28:08.000We had the Prime Minister of Pakistan, Youssef Ranzak Jilani, saying, quote, these attacks are creating a lot of problems for us personally.
01:28:16.000The US will have to stop these attacks.
01:28:19.000And of course, there were massive protests in Pakistan about these drone strikes just days before this bin Laden fraud was rolled out.
01:28:28.000Um, Pakistan is now being geopolitically isolated.
01:28:32.000They're saying that Pakistan was harboring Bin Laden all along.
01:28:35.000Of course, that only means that so was the CIA.
01:28:39.000It's tied with the Pakistani ISI at the hip.
01:28:42.000Those are the two organizations that created Bin Laden as a terrorist leader in the first place.
01:28:48.000So a lot of people are suggesting that it's a kind of reprisal against Pakistan for their unwillingness to continue going along with this, supporting the Hegemony of the U.S.
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01:33:26.000for a long time run over for a long time soon early we gotta cut you down and we're cutting the lies down well we see the 2012 kickoff of obama's campaign they claim they jumped the body of bin laden in the ocean They released a fake photo Sunday night.
01:33:47.000Yesterday morning had to admit it was a fake photo.
01:34:10.000And what concerns me more than anything is that our expert guests have broken down here on air.
01:34:19.000Webster Tarpley, investigative journalist Wayne Madsen, others, we've also seen this in the foreign news, that Pakistan was starting to make deals with Saudi Arabia, that Saudi Arabia knows it's being double-crossed by the West, and that there was going to be big movement in Pakistan.
01:34:35.000Pakistan said, get your drones out of the country.
01:34:40.000There's this raid, and now they're saying that Pakistan knew he was there for six years, as if Western intelligence wouldn't know that either, and they won't produce the body.
01:34:51.000This is a serious frame-up, it looks like, of Pakistan moving towards serious confrontations.
01:34:58.000Lieutenant General Hamid Gul, former head of Pakistani intelligence, really leading the attack on the Soviets in the 1980s, called a hero by our media at the time.
01:35:07.000He's been called now by some of our media the real leader of Al Qaeda, which he says is asinine.
01:35:13.000General Gould, thank you so much for joining us, sir.
01:35:25.000Break down, now that we have some more time, to look at this propaganda move, where you stand and what you believe is happening geopolitically.
01:35:34.000Well, I think they are targeting Pakistan and I think Patriots, as it was said by New York Times, is now gearing up, is limbering up for launching his third offensive against Pakistan.
01:35:48.000So I think that is where Pakistan is being cornered now.
01:35:51.000A case is being built against Pakistan and they are saying that ISI was harbouring this great terrorist.
01:35:59.000But at the same time, if you look at it professionally, All the time, the CIA, the political leadership of America, and even all the European countries and their intelligence services were actually putting Pakistani intelligence on the wrong posse by saying that the high-value targets were hiding in North Waziristan and that terrain which adjoins with Afghanistan.
01:36:28.000So, they were pounding Pakistani civilians.
01:36:32.000And poor, hapless villagers there with their drone attacks, with the hellfires and with their Reaper missiles.
01:36:39.000So they have caused something like 2,500 casualties when the man that they were hunting was actually hiding in one of the urban centers of Pakistan.
01:36:53.000I mean, it is not... It's an intelligence... Okay, we accept they're virgin, and we say that they are not...
01:36:59.000And this is not something, although that is a very popular theory here in Pakistan.
01:37:06.000But if we were to believe every word of what they're saying, then they are more responsible for misguiding Pakistani intelligence, other intelligence agencies, because the CIA and FBI and MI6 had been given free hand in Pakistan to hunt down the terrorists because the CIA and FBI and MI6 had been given free hand in Pakistan We had caught so many of them, from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to Faraj al-Libi and all the others from the urban centers of Pakistan.
01:37:34.000So why were they not also responsible for this failure?
01:37:39.000Agreed that there have been intelligence failures in this intelligence craft.
01:37:44.000Failures are not something which is outlandish.
01:37:49.000But ISI, instead of being lauded for its good work, I think ISI has been scapegoated by the CIA and all the other bigwigs there in America.
01:38:02.000And they want to now build a case against Pakistan.
01:38:05.000Although Pakistan really is suffering so much because our sovereignty has been trampled over.
01:38:12.000These helicopters, they had spotted the blind areas in our radar coverage and they came in as if they were the enemies of Pakistan.
01:38:21.000Now it brings to light that the relationship with Pakistan, America's relationship, Well, always one of animosity, not of friendship.
01:38:31.000And while we were being told that we are friends of America and we are doing everything possible for them, we lost something like 35,000 lives in this process.
01:38:42.000And we suffered a loss of $68 billion in economic terms only.
01:38:49.000And everything else that went wrong with Pakistan, the revenge war and so on and so forth.
01:39:43.000If the American administration is reluctant to hold that probe themselves, Let the international community demand from them that we ignore the 9-11 thing because you said that this had happened to us and we didn't ask for the evidence.
01:40:00.000But now it's about time that we ask for the evidence.
01:40:04.000General Gould, you brought up a point that is absolutely central, obviously, here.
01:40:10.000The saber-rattling began against Pakistan recently when Pakistan said enough of the drones.
01:40:16.000I've interviewed Special Forces troops on air.
01:40:19.000We've had Colonel Schaefer on repeatedly.
01:40:24.000It's been admitted in the news that U.S.
01:40:26.000troops, CIA, Special forces given unfettered access everywhere in Pakistan for now many, many years.
01:40:35.000And the fact that they're blaming Pakistan and saying you knew he was there for six years.
01:40:41.000You just threw the gauntlet right back down and said you were all over this country.
01:40:46.000You've been directing the Pakistani army into regions to back you up.
01:40:50.000Going into tribal areas, which of course, as you have pointed out, does stir up the population, and then they're called terrorists, and now they have us believe, in the heart of your West Point, in the heart of much of your intelligence system, he was there.
01:41:04.000So, if he was there, basically what you're saying, correct me if I'm wrong, 100% six years, the US, British, Israelis, they knew as well.
01:41:16.000That's indeed, because I think they have to share the responsibility.
01:41:19.000They can't shrug it off, because they were the superior partner in this war against terrorism, and they had more resources, far, far, far more resources than ISI ever possessed.
01:41:30.000So, you were responsible, equally responsible, and besides, you were all the time focusing the ISI, directing them towards the Northwest Frontier Province.
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01:47:08.000I saw in press TV last night the Iranian government is saying they have intel that Al-Qaeda, back from when Al-Qaeda was the good guys in the 80s, was going to leak the fact that U.S. intelligence was basically puppeteering terrorists to then blame it on
01:47:35.000on Mujahideen and it came out last week in Sky Television that the number one Al-Qaeda operative inside Pakistan carrying out attacks on the Pakistani military, and this is confirmed, was MI6.
01:47:48.000It's also been confirmed even Loftus, former head of counter-terrorists with the FBI, Mr. Loftus, John Loftus, he came out on Fox and said that a SWAT ran the 7-7 bombings in London.
01:47:59.000He He is MI6 and has an MI6 security clearance to travel wherever he wishes while he's on the news as the head terrorist.
01:48:07.000Ammar al-Awlaki, trained in the U.S., born in the U.S., Fox News reports, does dine secretly at the Pentagon and get orders.
01:48:17.000As the former head of Pakistani intelligence, someone with connections, I know you don't like to speculate, but looking at the evidence we have, Bottom line, there is this group they call Al-Qaeda that are really double-triple agents, carrying out events to then be framed on Iraq, on Libya, on Pakistan, on Iran, a cookie cutter, whoever they want to attack.
01:48:40.000Is that a correct assessment in my analysis, or can you add to that, General Gould?
01:48:51.000They are out to conquer the world at the cost of the American people, their comfort, their lives, their blood, at the cost of their hard-earned dollars.
01:49:03.000I mean, they are harboring such ambitions which are anti-humanity, which are anti, above all, the American people.
01:49:12.000And if you give them free hand, now they are trying to go for Pakistan, and this will be disaster because a desperate Pakistan would be a terrible thing for them to handle.
01:49:22.000I don't know why they are building up case against Pakistan.
01:49:26.000Raymond Davis, in that case, the Russian intelligence He gave out the information.
01:49:33.000Pakistan was unfortunately not able to do so because of the reason, because America come down hard upon them.
01:49:40.000But he was carrying some ounces of enriched uranium and he was to go and carry out some kind of action somewhere else.
01:49:49.000And then blame it on Pakistan that Pakistan's nuclear assets are leaky and therefore they have to be taken out.
01:49:58.000And this is my fear is that they have spotted the areas from where they can infiltrate and they can come and pick up our nuclear assets or do whatever they want Because they have such liberty of movement here, unfortunately, because of Pervaiz Musharraf, who was a dictator, and they supported him to the hilt, and he framed such policies which are being now followed by the present regime.
01:50:24.000Which called itself democratic, but it is not democratic, because it is the product of the NRO, the National Reconstruction Order, which was actually stage-managed by Condoleezza Rice, and it was signed between David Willibrand of the UK and Richard Boucher from the American side, and, of course, President Zardari from this side, and Benazir at that time.
01:50:48.000But Benazir became a little violent and she started reacting, so she had to be removed by them.
01:50:54.000If you remember, John Negroponte came here and he wanted to talk to her that she was becoming rebellious and she refused to meet him.
01:51:20.000It's now been confirmed he was trying to get uranium to some of their cutout al-Qaeda patsies to claim that your nuclear weapons program is leaking.
01:51:32.000Clearly, they now are moving to go into Pakistan.
01:51:37.000Will they try coups to bring in a soft coup?
01:51:41.000Or according to my military sources, they are preparing commando style attacks.
01:51:49.000Bombardments going in, getting the nukes, and then starting a larger attack, and then having India attack.
01:51:56.000But the word is China's not going to put up with this.
01:51:58.000I mean, we're talking about World War III.
01:52:00.000General, please give us the possible scenarios and the time frame on this.
01:52:05.000Well, I think it was McChrystal's idea, and he, in a briefing to the president, he had said that all he needs is a couple of helicopters and some commandos and an abseiling rope, and then he can go and pluck out anything that you have.
01:52:23.000And I mean, he said, I'll require a packing of three helicopters, and they can take out Pakistan's, all the nuclear triggers.
01:52:32.000But then they thought the better of it, because Pakistan's nuclear assets are dispersed.
01:52:36.000And if you touch Pakistan's nuclear assets, a lot of countries in the region who are very dear to America may be in trouble.
01:52:43.000Besides that, I think right behind our back, China, who is a very reliable friend, Pakistan will be left with no option but to lean upon China.
01:52:52.000And that could, as you are very rightly pointing out, that could start a third world war.
01:52:58.000I don't know why are they trying to play with fire.
01:53:01.000Because it will ignite an inferno which will consume the entire region.
01:53:06.000They're completely power-mad, sir, and they've been setting up a secret police grid, a demonization grid of real American patriots that just want to be a good country with a Bill of Rights and Constitution, who don't want to be an empire.
01:53:18.000But we have this wicked group that has seized us, and it just gives me chills.
01:53:23.000for my family and my future that the Rand Corporation and others have said they want to start a third world war to try to establish this world government.
01:53:32.000You notice this is all happening as the dollar begins to die.
01:53:35.000They actually plan to kill the dollar in this process, betray America after we're the bad guy attacking you and others, and then Europe comes out with its new global currency.
01:55:24.000Because we are investing so much money in you and this is what you have done to us.
01:55:28.000So I think very soon there is going to be a policy shift as far as Pakistan is concerned because pressure is mounting on the regime, on the government.
01:55:37.000And they will have to simply say, if you were to ask me, that you have done now your job.
01:55:42.000If you think that this was the target that you were looking for and you ravaged the whole world because of this, Now you've got him, so please finish us, leave us alone, and Yankee, please go home.
01:56:01.000135 billion dollars a year, for heaven's sake.
01:56:05.000Taxpayers' money being squandered in Afghanistan on a war which has already been lost.
01:56:10.000General, we've only got a few minutes left with you, and we appreciate your time.
01:56:14.000General Hamid Gul joins us, former head of Pakistani intelligence.
01:56:18.000Unfortunately, I want to have to relay to you and the rest of the world that I'm monitoring liberal, conservative, mainline radio and TV, and I want to give you the bad news that they are in just a matter of hours.
01:56:30.000First, it was cut the couple billion you're given that, as you point out, you spend way, you know, many times more trying to carry out the globalist dictates there in the region.
01:56:43.000So our media is acting like you're our welfare recipients and that the money is a blessing instead of a curse given to you by these devilish globalists.
01:56:53.000But now the drum is beginning that you need to be struck, that you are Al Qaeda, that you run bin Laden and that you love the destabilization of all these people brought in and they are I want to confirm, you need to know, they are trying to get the American people ready to attack you.
01:57:16.000What would you like to say to the American people about the propaganda they're hearing?
01:57:22.000This is fixing Pakistan, who has been a long time your friend.
01:57:25.000You are the sole superpower today because of Pakistan and because of the blood of the Awan people, whom you have, with impunity and with great callousness, you have destroyed them.