In 2011, the U.S. Attorney sent a threatening letter to the Texas Statehouse informing the Texas Senate that if they passed a bill that would have blocked the TSA from groping men, women, and children, including Miss America, who was violated in Dallas, Texas, that the feds would block all air travel in and out of Texas. Well, the Texas House voted 138-0 to kick a bunch of pedophiles out of our state! And the Senate gets down on their knees and lets their boots!
00:00:32.000Attorney sent a threatening letter to the Texas Statehouse informing the Texas Senate that if they passed the bill that had been unanimously passed by the House, 138 to 0, blocking TSA from violating state and federal law,
00:00:48.000Groping men, women, and children's genitals, including Miss America who was violated in Dallas, that if they did their duty, their job, and followed common sense and the Constitution and stopped this molestation that was going on, and it's still ongoing, That the Feds would blockade all air travel in and out of Texas, the second most populous state in the nation, with mega cities like Houston, Dallas, San Antonio.
00:01:15.000They said if you try to stop our TSA agents from actually sticking their hands in people's pants, not just grabbing their genitals on the outside, and running their hands down into the crease of people's rear end,
00:01:30.000I can't believe I didn't have to talk about this in America, this extreme power grab, that if they tried to enforce the law in this state, that the feds would create a no-fly zone over the state of Texas, a blockade, an act of war.
00:01:45.000Well, the Texas House said, fine, we don't care, we passed the bill, we're doing the right thing, don't mess with Texas, let's have this confrontation, let's call your bluff.
00:01:54.000Now, in the Senate of 31 Senators in the Texas Senate, they had 30 of the 31.
00:02:02.000Governor Perry claimed he was going to sign it.
00:02:05.000Well, his crony, David Dewhurst, with a long history in the CIA and coups in Latin America, Klaus Barbie the Nazi.
00:02:16.000I mean, you can't make stuff up like this.
00:02:19.000David Dewhurst Under Justice Department orders, with federal lobbyists violating Texas ethics rules, went on the floor of the House and threatened the members into removing their yes vote.
00:02:38.000And we now know about this because of State Senator Dan Patrick of Houston going public in the San Antonio Express News, the Austin American Statesman, the Houston Chronicle and Sing.
00:02:50.000That Dewhurst did not want this information to get out.
00:02:54.000He didn't want his fingerprints on it, but everybody witnessed it, that he twisted arms and helped expand the threat of a federal blockade or a no-fly zone over Texas that the Justice Department brazenly issued, which is an act of war under international law.
00:03:11.000That's what they're doing to Qaddafi right now in Libya.
00:03:14.000They said no air traffic in or out of Texas.
00:03:17.000And instead of the Senate going forward and calling the feds bluff, David Dewhurst twisted arms and ensured that the bill died.
00:03:26.000Well, we got word of this and there was still time to try to get the bill back on the Senate floor.
00:03:32.000I called spontaneously in the last hour of my radio show on Wednesday, May 25th, for folks to get in their cars, to get down to the Texas Capitol, and to go in there and to confront these federal minions that are trying by stealth Uh, to allow the TSA to continue their activities.
00:03:52.000Dewhurst did not want anyone to know that he was the one that killed this legislation.
00:03:57.000Not only is he for the groping and the federal domination, but he doesn't want you to know that because he understands how incredibly unpopular these TSA rape down, grope downs are.
00:04:12.000And everyone needs to remember that as Dewhurst prepares to run for Kay Bailey Hutchinson's Senate seat, that we need a real constitutionalist, a real patriot, and not some corrupt rhino.
00:04:26.000It shows you how much the establishment Republicans love the police state.
00:04:30.000And they want to break the will of the American people along with their socialist communist cohorts in the Obama administration.
00:04:38.000David Dewhurst needs to go ahead and join with Obama.
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00:08:53.000We have the Bill of Rights being trampled.
00:08:55.000We have the TSA out of their jurisdiction, outside federal and state law, sticking their hands down children's pants and saying they're going to ignore the state law passing.
00:09:09.000I read earlier, articles are pouring in, mainstream TV is admitting, in Tennessee and other states, that police all over are pulling over even prominent people.
00:09:21.000That's when they get in trouble, is when it's a judge or a country music singer, you name it.
00:09:26.000It's happened to everybody, old ladies, and they're taking as low as $100 out of their wallet.
00:10:30.000Now we learned for two years shipping tens of thousands of guns into Mexico to the drug cartels to trace them back here so they could then say, we got to restrict and ban semi-autos, which they did.
00:10:40.000And they don't even care they got caught.
00:11:02.000CNN now has a report out admitting, yes, industry's putting kill switches, takeover switches and everything.
00:11:08.000The president is to start breaking in with videos and text bossing you around.
00:11:12.000They're now announcing the feds are going to break into local radio and TV, not for emergency alerts, but just with brainwashing.
00:11:18.000Telescreens going in 9000 locations and spying on your neighbors.
00:11:21.000Public schools nationwide with AI software, cameras tracking the kids, recording everything they say, run by the Pentagon, laptops the school gives the kids with taxpayer money paid for, spying on them at school.
00:11:34.000Schools don't care, they're out in the open.
00:11:35.000We're being bum-rushed by the criminal class.
00:11:46.000We got the Homeland Security Mike reports two years ago.
00:11:49.000Gun owners, conservatives, returning veterans, Ron Paul supporters, people that want to end the Fed, anybody that criticizes the central banks are marked for arrest.
00:11:58.000And they're trying to brainwash the cops.
00:12:27.000It's government, clubs, Nancy Pelosi restaurants, McDonald's, General Electric, just total mafia, where you've got to buy the socialist healthcare from the insurance company, but anybody who's part of the inside group, their employees don't have to have it, so they can beat you with unfair trade advantage.
00:13:47.000TSA responds to Texas, resistance is futile.
00:13:50.000We're going to play this clip and then go to Alfred Adask, who would dare chronicle the crime of the crime syndicate, who would dare point out the 10th and 9th Amendment of the states.
00:14:29.000McNabb has been studying Sovereign Citizens for a decade.
00:14:32.000She's testified before Congress and is writing a book about the movement.
00:14:36.000He has a twisted sense of history, and he thinks that people who lived in the 18th century were free of all legal constraints, and they want to return to that time now.
00:15:30.000I would argue that it's un-American to trust the government.
00:15:33.000Alfred Addis has been a sovereign citizen for 28 years.
00:15:37.000He's what's called a sovereign guru, one of the movement's leading voices.
00:15:42.000A roofer by trade, Addis once published a magazine critical of the legal system.
00:15:46.000Why is the sovereign citizen movement growing?
00:15:49.000What's driving people to it is they are beginning to understand that the government has moved away from fundamental principles that this nation is built on.
00:15:59.000Where are the limits in limited government?
00:16:02.000The sovereignty movement is attempting to rediscover those limits and reassert them.
00:16:29.000You don't like this government very much, do you?
00:16:31.000I think the government has gone far beyond its constitutional limits.
00:16:35.000They think, hey, we're the government, we can do anything.
00:16:38.000And some people are saying, no, I don't think you can.
00:16:41.000All right, that's Alfred Adesk, and he joins us now for five minutes into the next hour.
00:16:47.000We have a surprise guest for about 30 minutes or so after that in studio.
00:16:52.000Alfred, they are moving now from getting rid of the Bill of Rights in the name of fighting their al-Qaeda brigades, which are now the heroes in Libya, we're told, to the domestic groups.
00:17:02.000I believe they're really thinking about staging some new domestic events so they can really come after people like you and I.
00:17:09.000And it shows they're getting scared because you and others are calling them out, Alfred.
00:17:16.000Well, I agree with you, and I think, you know, they have certainly stepped up their activity in recent times, but that's not necessarily evidence that they're becoming more powerful.
00:17:26.000It may be evidence that they're becoming more desperate.
00:17:29.000They realize this thing is coming to a head, and they're trying to grab whatever they can before the whole thing explodes in their face.
00:17:36.000I think they see the direction things are going, and I think they are perhaps desperate to stop People like you and me, thousands, millions of others that are beginning to understand, you know, this can't continue.
00:17:48.000Yeah, they're not building hardened bunkers in every city and then we get the internal training manuals.
00:17:53.000It's not for guys wearing turbans that they know work for them.
00:18:49.000And that's why they're sticking their hands down the baby's pants, that's why they're beating up photographers, because they're running on that line desperately, they got blood coming out their mouth, their heart's beating, their muscles are burning, they're about to implode.
00:19:03.000So the point to this is that, you know, if this system was operating smoothly, and if they were really running this operation People wouldn't even be complaining.
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00:24:20.000In any country in history, this would be called tyranny.
00:24:24.000What we're living under, and I've got to be honest, I admire the illegal aliens.
00:24:29.000They, most of them don't pay any taxes, they don't have any ID, they do whatever they want, and because they do it as a group, they're sovereign.
00:24:37.000They walk into a bank, no ID, they're given it.
00:24:40.000Citizens, though, are kept basically like slaves, and the system wants to keep us down.
00:24:46.000It's like in that clip from A Bug's Life with the grasshoppers talking about if you let one ant stand up, all the ants might stand up.
00:24:54.000And I gotta say, the illegal aliens behave a lot more like...
00:25:00.000And now the globalists want them there to drive down wages.
00:25:03.000That's why they let them get away with it.
00:25:05.000But more and more, Alfred, I think it's because the illegal aliens just won't put up with it.
00:25:11.000But continue breaking down why they're coming after the sovereign citizen movement, who this new world order is, and where you think we're going.
00:25:18.000The whole idea behind sovereignty, the sovereignty movement, I mean, I don't even like that term.
00:26:30.000And ultimately you're going to have God's law at the top.
00:26:32.000Well take these clergy response teams that Genesis Talk Show host Pastor Butch Paul first discovered.
00:26:37.000I was then sent hundreds and hundreds of pages and the preacher got threatened over it and people didn't believe the documents until two years later.
00:26:44.000When national and local TV covered it and said how great it was, oh that tens of thousands of preachers are trained per year secretly to tell their flocks to submit and do whatever government says because Romans 13, out of context, Hitler's favorite verse to control the Germans, well in America, we the people are the government.
00:27:02.000Surrender unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.
00:27:59.000Upwards of half of Congress doesn't pay taxes and nobody prosecutes them.
00:28:05.000Yeah, if you're in the right, and they can get away with it, undoubtedly.
00:28:10.000Not simply because they have power, but because when they do get away with it, now there's leverage to come after them, and now they're on a leash.
00:28:20.000You don't have to pay taxes, but you better vote the way you have to vote.
00:28:37.000Well, no, I'm just making sure the listeners do.
00:28:39.000Alfred, I've got to get you on more often.
00:28:41.000We've got a long segment coming up and a couple more after that.
00:28:44.000Then we've got a surprise guest in studio scheduled.
00:28:48.000But when we come back from break here in an 18-minute segment, I want to get into some of the outrages of these crooks and why you say they're illegitimate.
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00:33:08.000Cultures go through cycles and we are in a very deep cycle of decadence and corruption, mixed with nuclear weapons, bioweapons, high-tech surveillance.
00:33:50.000You look at, I mean, the genius of the American Constitution, and there's things to complain about it and maybe some flaws, but as originally drafted, the genius is that it's an anti-government document.
00:34:04.000The reason we have separation of powers is so the three branches of governments fight amongst each other and don't fight with us.
00:34:12.000The reason we have the right to keep and bear arms is to protect us against the government.
00:34:17.000The reason for freedom of speech and freedom of the press is not so we can read gossip about what they're doing on the new housewives of New York or some damn thing.
00:34:26.000It's about Telling people what someone saw in the government.
00:34:29.000Somebody saw something, the government's doing something wrong.
00:35:24.000It says, the conventions of a number of states, having at the time they're adopting a constitution, express the desire in order to prevent misconstruction, abuse of its powers, Meaning the powers of the Constitution, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added.
00:35:41.000Those declaratory and restrictive clauses are the first ten amendments.
00:35:45.000Their purpose is to prevent abuse of the Constitution.
00:35:49.000Who could abuse the Constitution except federal officers, officials, and employees?
00:35:55.000The only people who can abuse the powers of the Constitution are the people who have them to exercise.
00:36:01.000And that tells us that the purpose of the first ten amendments was to protect the people of the states against the federal government.
00:36:07.000They didn't trust the government as far as they could throw it.
00:36:09.000They said, we gotta have one, but we don't trust the SOBs.
00:36:13.000And what's the reason for the second amendment?
00:36:15.000To protect us against the federal government.
00:36:18.000It says so by implication right there in the preamble to the Bill of Rights.
00:36:27.000And it's what I would try to talk about.
00:36:39.000But it's not intended to be a license just to go out and start shooting cops and judges and whatever.
00:36:45.000It is the means of protecting yourself from despotism.
00:36:51.000If and when the government becomes despotic and tyrannical, it's like it says in the Declaration of Independence, it's your right, it's your duty to throw off that government.
00:37:00.000The Second Amendment is the means to throw off that government.
00:37:03.000If the government becomes despotic, Second Amendment kicks in.
00:37:07.000It doesn't mean you go shoot every cop you can find.
00:37:11.000But the point is, if they are despotic, Second Amendment.
00:37:14.000And like it or not, I was sent the internal FEMA footage from Kansas City in 2000, where FEMA gets up in front of cops.
00:37:22.000and firemen and teaches them the founding fathers were terrorists the bill of rights declaration of independence is is a evil document they are openly uh... saying in some of these federal documents we've gotten that those that make frequent references to the u.s.
00:37:40.000constitution well the cops have sworn on oath to that and now we have the indiana supreme court i don't know if you saw that ruling that the the lead judge said Cops can come in for any reason or no reason at all.
00:37:59.000And the police more and more are caught just pulling people over, stealing cash out of their wallets.
00:38:04.000You heard me run through that raft earlier.
00:38:06.000And now on the TSA website, blogger Bob, the official voice of them, says that Texas, it doesn't matter what you say, we have Article Six, Clause 2 prevents states from regulating the federal government.
00:38:22.000I mean, that is on its head, claiming that the Commerce Clause, the Supremacy Clause, gives them all this power, only in the issuance of currency, only in the Navy, and only in protecting the borders.
00:38:34.000I mean, why even have states, if they're so busy?
00:38:37.000I mean, look, until 1913, the state legislatures voted And picked the U.S.
00:39:04.000And the feds laugh and giggle on a blog about it.
00:39:09.000Well, there's a reason to believe that what passes for state government right now may not be state government.
00:39:16.000It may actually be a territorial government.
00:39:20.000It may be a territorial government, and under Article 4, Section 3, Clause 2 of the Federal Constitution, the Congress has exclusive legislative jurisdiction over the territories.
00:39:29.000I strongly suspect, I can't prove it, but I strongly suspect that what passes for Texas today, they presume it to be a territory rather than a state of the union.
00:39:38.000Part of the reason for that, Article 1, Section 10, Clause 1.
00:39:42.000It says in part, no state shall make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts.
00:39:51.000Now how does the government of the state of Texas function without gold and silver?
00:39:56.000The Constitution has never been amended to eliminate that clause.
00:39:59.000And it doesn't apply to territories and it doesn't apply to federal government.
00:40:05.000And they have, by taking the gold and silver out of circulation, I think what they've done is they've rendered the de jure government of the State of the Union, I think they've rendered them insolvent and unfunctional.
00:40:18.000And they've replaced them with some sort of a territorial setup.
00:40:20.000No, they created the state police in 33 under federal auspices.
00:40:24.000They went and financed it basically as part of the federal receivership and they took territorial law that had already been perfected out west and exported it as the federal model.
00:40:43.000It's how the cops seize cash out of your wallet when no drugs or no arrest is made.
00:40:49.000They're operating under the federal mandates as state police as part of their agreements with the feds to get 80% receivership back of the money if they go to the feds and not the state.
00:41:48.000All they did is drive them into bankruptcy.
00:41:50.000First three defendants went into bankruptcy.
00:41:52.000Two of them, husband and wife, divorced, split, they're gone.
00:41:55.000I got involved in this and read the relevant drug laws because that's what we're charged under.
00:42:00.000And under the Texas Health and Safety Code, section 431.002, subparagraph 14, it says, drug means, articles recognized in the official United States Pharmacopeia, yada, yada, yada, articles intended or designed for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease in man or other animals.
00:42:22.000The first time I saw a man or other animals, I thought, why the damn fools, they don't even know what they're writing!
00:42:28.000The phrase means they presume man to be an animal!
00:42:31.000No, that's an inside joke by them, but let me expand on that.
00:42:35.000They put last year in the Food Safety Act, written by Big Pharma, they gave $17 million in just a one-week period, written by Big Pharma and Big Agribusiness to shut down local farms and ranches, Codex Alimentarius, That that entire European Union, EU Act, would be implemented, and luckily it's been defeated so far.
00:42:55.000But, Europe has now implemented, and you can pull up the headlines, hundreds of herbal remedies, vitamins banned from over-the-counter sale.
00:43:03.000And so yes, they are saying, under this, they've had SWAT teams raid aloe vera farms.
00:43:21.000You can't declare me to be an animal because my Bible says in Genesis 1, 26 through 28, on the sixth day God created man in his image and gave man dominion over the animals.
00:43:34.000As a Christian or a Jew and probably even as a Muslim, the government can't declare us to be animals without violating our freedom of religion.
00:45:14.000We found 23 separate instances that apply to our case.
00:45:17.000Laws at both the Texas level and federal level.
00:45:20.000We found it in five other states where we looked.
00:45:22.000I presume it to be true in all 50 states or at least the vast majority of them.
00:45:27.000Last night I got an email from someone in Australia who's been visiting the website and he's seen the articles I have on man or other animals and he's looked at the Australian law.
00:45:36.000The Australian drug law also defines the people to be animals which tells me that this business Of presuming the people to be animals is not confined to the United States.
00:45:57.000As indentured servants, a lot of my family came here as slaves, white slaves.
00:46:01.000They were indentured servants, seven-year, 14-year deals, whatever they signed on to.
00:46:06.000You come here and then they make you buy everything through the contract from the company store.
00:46:12.000They have a strong man that keeps you under their control.
00:46:14.000You never basically get off the plantation.
00:46:17.000In fact, many historians broke down that white slaves or indentured servants We're worse off than blacks because the small 2% that owned slaves that were black wanted to take care of their property, but white slaves were even worse than that.
00:46:33.000This issue is powerful because, for example, our Declaration of Independence, principles this country is built on.
00:46:39.000Second sentence, we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.
00:46:47.000Among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
00:46:49.000Those rights only attach to men and women made in God's image.
00:46:57.000Third sentence of the Declaration says that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of government.
00:47:05.000When they say that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, they're telling us that in the vision of the Founding Fathers, the principal reason for government was to secure to every man, woman, and even unborn child, those God-given, unalienable rights which attach at the moment of your creation, not your birth.
00:47:24.000Under the Declaration of Independence principles, if you're recognized to be a man, a woman, or even an unborn child made in God's image, they can't abort you.
00:47:34.000If you are endowed by God, that's the foundation for sovereignty.
00:47:38.000That's why they changed the definition to fetus.
00:47:42.000That's why Frank Herbert's book, this globalist philosophy, is that the secret cult group then puts you through a ritual to decide if you're a human.
00:48:19.000If you can draft a religious freedom defense against these people, they have to back off.
00:48:24.000Because if this goes public, and you get a case like this that goes all the way to the Supreme Court, and they have to admit that the people aren't animals, well, they lose the war on drugs, they lose much of the police state, they lose the prison industrial complex.
00:48:38.000And of course, big pharmaceuticals are built on this.
00:48:40.000By the way, Alfred, what you've said- This is a huge story.
00:49:07.000What people don't understand about sovereignty, the reason the King of France was sovereign was because he alone had the divine right of kings.
00:49:21.000All the rest were subjects because they did not get their rights directly from God.
00:49:26.000In our country, when it started out, it started with an incredible, profound concept.
00:49:31.000It said, no, we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men, not just the kings, the individual kings of England and France and Spain and so on, all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.
00:49:44.000With that statement, they made each of us an individual sovereign.
00:49:47.000It's borne out in Chisholm versus Georgia, 1793, Supreme Court of the United States declared this is to be a nation of sovereigns.
00:50:15.000this is just nothing but modern slavery where they are above the law they don't pay taxes they do whatever they want and don't follow our original just laws and then they make unjust laws for us this is the essence of tyranny they say we have to obey their law but they don't have to obey our law And again, the hierarchy is God's law, number one.
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00:55:35.000The system is trying to break our will.
00:55:38.000And we've seen police chiefs in New Jersey and Maryland say, In public statements, get out there, break their will, wear black masks, scare them.
00:55:46.000You know, Fox News headline, police chief admits they want to scare us.
00:55:50.000The TSA, first take your shoes off, answer questions.
00:55:53.000Now we're going to squeeze your genitals on the outside.
00:55:59.000I mean, they know that if they can get away with that, they're desperately trying to break our will and train us to basically be prisoners.
00:56:08.000And that's exactly the point then, is you can't allow that to happen.
00:56:13.000But the most important thing is you can't succumb to fear.
00:56:17.000They're trying to scare us, but here's the truth.
00:56:19.000The police are outnumbered about 300 to 1 in this country.
00:56:23.000It's only about 3 tenths of a percent of the population that are police officers.
00:56:27.000Same thing with the military, about 3 tenths of a percent of the population thereabouts.
00:56:31.000I mean, even if they brought all the military back and they combine them with all the police, they're still technically outnumbered by at least 100 to 1 on the basis of adults.
00:56:41.000And what's happening is they're running around trying to get everybody to be spies for them.
00:56:53.000You know, and on one level, This is not an us against them, meaning us against the police.
00:56:59.000The police are standing on the breach on this thing, and they need to make up their mind who do they serve and protect.
00:57:05.000They've got that motto, we serve and protect, but do they serve and protect the government, or do they serve and protect the people of the United States?
00:57:13.000They'd better understand that the government regards them as nothing but disposable cattle.
00:57:20.000Kissinger wrote a book and called our troops dumb animals.
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00:58:02.000We need to quit licking their boots and being afraid to call them out because the police everywhere are violating the Bill of Rights and Constitution.
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01:00:48.000Now, Governor, it's great to have you back.
01:00:50.000You're down in Mexico right now, but we've got you for the full hour.
01:00:54.000Some stations don't carry this first five minutes, so I want to cover some sub-issues before we come back and get your take on the entire Bin Laden fable.
01:01:04.000And they're telling us that we've got to give up even more rights now that Bin Laden's been reportedly killed.
01:01:10.000They're announcing the government's going to have alerts over our cell phones.
01:01:14.000They're going to have a no-travel list now for trains, you name it.
01:01:18.000We're going to talk about all that with former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura.
01:01:22.000But getting into the no-travel thing first, so we thought we'd escape the TSA by not flying on commercial jets, but now they're announcing, Governor, that they want to have these on the roads, the highways, the trains.
01:01:39.000Well, it doesn't surprise me at all because Alex, you know, I drive to and from Mexico every year.
01:01:46.000And after clearing customs at the border, and it doesn't matter what border, whether it's California or Arizona, When you clear customs, you get about an hour under the freeway in the United States of America.
01:02:01.000This has been going on for the last six years because that's how long I've been living in Mexico and Minnesota.
01:02:09.000You come to an immigration stop out in the middle of a highway where you have to sit out there in the hot desert for an hour and a half and clear a second immigration stop.
01:02:21.000So it doesn't surprise me because these stops have been going along and very illegal in my opinion because you've already shown your passport at the border why are you required to produce it again an hour into the united states so you know this is stuff that they've been setting up that i've been watching for six years now in my travels via mexico back to the u.s every year they're just expanding the controls
01:02:49.000Well, let's say they want to protect us from terrorists.
01:02:52.000Terrorists, they get a leak, might want to attack a mall.
01:02:54.000Are they going to put TSA in front of every mall?
01:02:56.000Well, they're now announcing they want that.
01:02:59.000Are they going to, there's close to 200,000 miles of rails, over two and a half million miles of roads.
01:03:05.000I mean, it's impossible to protect all this.
01:03:15.000Are they priming us that we're going to get hit again, and so they want to be preemptive, and that's what they're telling us?
01:03:21.000Yes, they just so happen to have been training for years with real checkpoints at bus stations and train terminals, but now they're rolling it out saying, Al-Qaeda, it's It's inevitable they're going to hit in revenge for bin Laden.
01:03:34.000We're talking about it after the break.
01:03:35.000And so you've got to give all your rights up now, and we've got to basically have TSA train federalized police through the threat fusion centers just sticking their hands down our pants everywhere.
01:03:44.000Well, you know, it's like the old forefather.
01:03:48.000I can't remember if it was Ben Franklin or which one of them said it when they made the great statement that if you're going to trade your liberty for security, well, then you have neither.
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01:08:19.000It is Tuesday, the 10th day of May, 2011.
01:08:23.000Joining us from the Baja in California is former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura's new book, climbing up the New York Times bestseller list.
01:08:32.000Jesse Ventura, 63 documents the government doesn't want you to read.
01:08:53.000They won't show us the photo because, quote, conspiracy theorists, the president said on 60 Minutes, wouldn't believe it.
01:08:58.000That means people that have been lied to so much, they don't believe anything.
01:09:02.000Well, you know, it's hard to have a taken view on it for me, Alex, because, as you said, I'm down here in the Baja and I get wind of stuff 48 hours or 3 days after it happens, so you guys know certainly more than I do.
01:09:16.000view on it for me, Alex, because as you said, I'm down here in the Baja, and I get wind of stuff 48 hours or three days after it happens, so you guys know certainly more than I do.
01:09:26.000And, you know, I've been asked, people have said to me, well, could we have taken him alive, and da-da-da.
01:09:32.000I said, I can't make any statement on that, because you'd have to be there, you'd have to be part of the operation.
01:09:38.000If the Navy SEALs indeed did kill bin Laden, well, they're the best unit at doing that, because that's their expertise.
01:09:45.000And they could accomplish that mission if the mission were indeed true.
01:09:54.000Because my government has lied to me so often.
01:09:57.000I mean, look at when they lied about the death of Pat Killman.
01:10:00.000They lied about the Jessica Lynch recovery.
01:10:04.000They lied about weapons of mass destruction.
01:10:07.000They lied about ties to Al-Qaeda in Iraq.
01:10:10.000So really, the government has no credibility with me.
01:10:13.000So when I hear a story that they accomplished this, And then there's so many other weird things about it, like they buried him at sea 24 hours later.
01:10:54.000That's the only thing I could come up with.
01:10:56.000But no, they won't show us photos, they're just telling us he's dead, and I guess it's worked so many times before, Alex, why wouldn't it work again?
01:11:37.000As far as operational end, on the ground being the knuckle-draggers, the SEALs that did the op, it shows me that policy hasn't changed at all since Vietnam.
01:11:50.000Because in Vietnam, our standard policy, if we were going to do a kidnapping or going to do something of this order, would be you offer the person one time.
01:12:01.000And if the person doesn't fully cooperate, you then take them out.
01:12:09.000So whoever the operator, if it indeed happened, as they said it went down, whoever the operational leader on the ground was, I fully could see why he would be taken out that quickly, because that's no different than what it was in Vietnam.
01:12:25.000That you give one opportunity, and if they so choose to not exercise that opportunity, then you eliminate them.
01:12:32.000Well, what's amazing is they showed this White House Situation Room and said that they were watching bin Laden being killed.
01:12:39.000Then they said, actually, that the video cut out for 24 minutes and they didn't watch it and they lied about that.
01:13:35.000I've got to start reading on it when I get back to the States, and I'll make a few phone calls with people that I know and see what I can tap on the behind the scenes.
01:13:44.000You know, I'm still a bit connected to the SEAL units, and I can't believe that they would knowingly participate in a fraud.
01:13:52.000But then again, I guess if you're ordered to do something, you have to do what you're ordered to do.
01:13:58.000Uh, you know, but I can't see a SEAL platoon actively participating in a fraud unless they pulled a fraud on them, too.
01:14:05.000And maybe they had some guy there that looked like Bin Laden and did him in.
01:14:10.000Well, that's exactly how they operate.
01:14:13.000That's exactly, they have decoys, people that are set up, and now they released this video of the five videos, four of them were previously released videos.
01:14:23.000We've gone and shown the exact same video was released, one of them four years ago, but they cut the audio out so it wouldn't be too obvious.
01:14:31.000And the one video that's new is an old guy from the side whose ears don't even look like bin Laden, supposedly watching bin Laden on TV.
01:14:41.000Yeah, I did see that photograph last night and I kind of chuckled at it and I thought that's him.
01:14:46.000And then I thought to myself, well then what they really did was just shot an old man in his bed, right?
01:14:57.000Again, I can't comment on what happened on the ground because I'm not privy to anything that went down with the actual platoon over there, but they could do it and they could certainly accomplish it if it was real.
01:15:47.000They've now announced today, and this was actually set up months ago, the new alert system was really integrated in years ago.
01:15:54.000They're going to be breaking in on smartphones, cell phones, computers, radio, TV, with government alerts, messages from the president, forcing you to watch them, 9,000 locations, 800 Walmarts.
01:16:07.000Malls are getting telescreens saying nobody's safe, watch your neighbor, trust no one but government.
01:16:20.000We're all supposed to go to Walmart and watch them on TV when they come on?
01:16:25.000Well, it's about them forcing their way into our lives.
01:16:28.000Chuckie Schumer and now Amtrak, it looks like they're going to agree, as well as other terminals around the country, to have TSA sticking their hands down our pants.
01:16:39.000Have you seen the new video of the 6-year-old having them stick their hands down our pants?
01:16:42.000Or the 1-year-old baby with them pulling the diaper off?
01:16:45.000No, I didn't see the one-year-old baby with the diaper, but I did see the young child.
01:16:49.000I was on with Lou Dobbs that particular day, right before I left to go back to Mexico on the book tour.
01:16:56.000And, you know, Lou was irate over it, and he thanked me for bringing my lawsuit on behalf of millions of Americans, including himself, for standing up for this stuff.
01:17:06.000But you know, that's about all you can do.
01:17:09.000I mean, we just gotta be vigilant, Alex, and not accept this as normal behavior in what's supposed to be a free country.
01:17:16.000Well, how could TSA, if there were real terrorists, protect cornfields, rural areas, highways, hundreds of thousands of miles of train?
01:17:27.000They claim the Al-Qaeda documents that the boogeyman bin Laden had said they want to go up and derail trains.
01:17:35.000So how is searching everybody that gets on trains and putting them through a no-ride list, how is that going to stop Al-Qaeda?
01:17:42.000I mean, how are they going to stop anybody?
01:17:48.000I mean, I'm trying to figure out, are they trying to make us believe that there's like millions of them out there?
01:17:53.000No, they claim there's less than a hundred in Afghanistan, less than a hundred in Pakistan, maybe a hundred... Well, that means there's more Hell's Angels than there are Al-Qaeda, right?
01:18:04.000Well, also, Jesse, let me ask you this question... Am I right, Alex?
01:18:14.000If they say he didn't resist and that the SEALs got him and then executed him, why if he's the greatest intelligence asset in the world, knows where all the Al-Qaeda bodies are buried, knows the next attack, why execute Osama bin Laden?
01:18:29.000And they're telling us torture's great and torture's wonderful because it gets data.
01:18:33.000Well, then why not take bin Laden and torture him?
01:18:36.000Well, again, though, that's a question that would happen in the field, and I can understand the seal operative, because if it was the same as Vietnam, if you give them one opportunity, if they fail to do that, you eliminate them.
01:19:00.000This guy would know everything, supposedly, about Al-Qaeda.
01:19:03.000Why wouldn't you attempt to capture him first so that you could gain knowledge from this guy to warrant off other attacks or whatever it might be?
01:19:13.000It seems stupid to just plain execute it.
01:19:57.000We'll be right back with Governor Jesse Ventura with more.
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01:24:14.000Governor Ventura and I were just talking during the break and he was having time to really cogitate on the whole Bin Laden situation.
01:24:22.000He takes off part of the year and goes down and writes books and researches down in the Baja, Mexico and surfs.
01:24:28.000But he was going, didn't Benazir Bhutto, the president of Pakistan come out and say he'd been killed?
01:24:32.000And then she got killed a week later at execution style.
01:24:36.000And Pakistani intelligence former head told me here it was Cheney had her killed.
01:24:39.000And wasn't it In 2003 in the election, we had Madeleine Albright come out and say he was dead and that Bush was thinking about rolling him out.
01:24:52.000I had Steve Pachinik, the guy that co-wrote the books with, of course, the very famous writer Tom Clancy.
01:25:00.000He was the head of Black Op Operations, worked with the SEALs in psychological warfare of the Delta Force.
01:25:06.000He told me in April 2002, Governor, that he died of kidney failure and they were going to roll him out later, claiming that we'd killed him.
01:25:13.000So, with all those high-powered people saying that, and then them changing the story so much, what does your gut tell you?
01:25:53.000That's why even CBS News reported he was at the American hospital in quote Dubai being treated by American doctors and even Dan Rather went and interviewed him and this was just months before 9-11.
01:26:12.000That's the disturbing thing about being a United States citizen today is the fact that you can't believe mainstream media because mainstream media is totally bought and sold and they're in bed with the government.
01:26:23.000And, you know, that's their job now is to simply report what the government wants us told.
01:26:29.000And in light of that fact, you have to learn everything on shows like yours and on the Internet and all these other alternative places where you can attempt to get through them and learn the truth.
01:26:42.000But again, everyone is susceptible to being misled no matter where it is, be it the Internet or where else.
01:27:37.000And you went on to question they lied about Lynch and did a Jerry Bruckheimer production of the story.
01:27:43.000They lied about the murder of Pat Tillman, which is unconscionable when they tried to turn that into a political staged deal to support their war and political position, unconscionable.
01:28:28.000We're about to go to break with a long segment coming up, but the New York Post on May 7th ran a headline, The Truth Hurts, and they said that Governor Jesse Ventura has since reversed his position, that he believed bin Laden was dead.
01:28:42.000Well, you were just going off what even Mainline News was saying, that it was believed he was dead.
01:28:45.000And they said he's since reversed his position.
01:28:47.000I then searched, and I knew you were in Mexico, there was no news on you in over a month since you'd been in Mexico, and I looked for you doing a reversal on bin Laden.
01:29:12.000Time magazine's out saying that I've reversed myself now that they've released these videos, which a bunch of them are old, already released.
01:29:21.000It says, well, Jones now has to basically admit he's wrong.
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01:32:59.000Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we are back live with former Minnesota Governor Jesse we are back live with former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura.
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01:33:52.000But you can look at the photo with Hillary with her You know what bothers me?
01:33:55.000Here's what troubles me, Alex, about the lying.
01:33:57.000scripted this entire thing and governor just going over more of the lies we've been told I mean government is constantly being caught in lies and I think it's common sense to question you know what bothers me here's what troubles me Alex about lying is that when we lie to them we go to jail it's that simple I mean, look at right now in baseball.
01:34:52.000I mean, these new federal laws they've had the last decade have put hundreds of thousands of people in prison where you've actually done nothing wrong, but then they claim that you lied on your finances and they find $10 more or $10 less than you said, and they go, technically, you lied.
01:35:09.000It doesn't matter that it's really a mistake.
01:35:12.000Well, you know, like I said, you got the high-profile cases like baseball, and I always question and go, what does steroid use in baseball have to do with the government?
01:35:25.000And it's that whole premise that if we lie to them, we go to jail, and yet it seems every politician in this country, lying must be the major course they take in college.
01:35:36.000I don't know, I didn't go to college, Alex.
01:36:03.000KSM, who they've been torturing for, what is it, six years now, who confessed to bombing buildings that were built after he was kidnapped or given rendition.
01:36:17.000KSM, two weeks before 9-11, they released a statement claiming KSM said there are buried nukes in Europe and the US and Bin Laden will detonate them.
01:36:26.000He has orders to detonate them if he is killed.
01:36:29.000Now, the Associated Press In fact, let's pull that up on screen.
01:36:47.000But then they do kill him, as if they wouldn't follow their orders.
01:36:51.000And Dick Cheney comes out and says Obama should reinstate waterboarding.
01:36:56.000He told Fox Uh, Sunday, uh, he told, uh, Chris Wallace, uh, that on Fox, former Vice President Dick Cheney said Sunday that President Barack Obama should be, uh, should put waterboarding back on the table.
01:37:10.000And then I want to shift to this article by Washington's blog.
01:37:14.000government used communist torture techniques specifically designed to produce false confessions.
01:37:19.000And then he has links to the Navy SEAL training and the Army training.
01:37:23.000And it says that they now have announced as of 2009, and that Senator Levin is commenting on the Senate Armed Services Committee report on torture, declassified today, drops the following bombshell, that the survival evasion resistance, this is when you said that the survival evasion resistance, this is when you said years ago, you talk about how you've been waterboarded and it is torture, and that you'd be happy to waterboard Dick Cheney, that they're actually using the SERE techniques that SEALs and other special forces are put through in the basic training now
01:37:48.000that they're actually using the SERE techniques that SEALs and other special forces are put through.
01:37:55.000In the basic training now of advanced troops in this survival of Asian resistance, they're not teaching them how to take the torture.
01:38:03.000They're teaching them how to torture now.
01:38:24.000Dick Cheney needs to lie down and be waterboarded.
01:38:27.000And that way he'll know what he's talking about because right now Dick Cheney speaks out of ignorance.
01:38:32.000He doesn't know what he's talking about because he's never had it done to him.
01:38:37.000So I think the first thing Dick Cheney should do is volunteer to have it done.
01:38:41.000I just read in today's newspaper that he's contemplating whether he needs a new heart or not.
01:38:48.000Well, if he gets waterboarded, he won't have to make that decision anymore.
01:38:53.000What do you make of them taking this training that you talked about going through survival, evasion, resistance?
01:38:59.000Seer school was required back when I was in the Navy, if you were going anywhere into a combat zone, they required you to pass successfully complete SEER school, which was called Survival Escape, Resistance, and Evasion.
01:39:12.000And now that's where you were essentially waterboarded, everybody was.
01:39:16.000And you spent 24 hours at a mock POW camp and all of this stuff because you never knew, I guess, if you were going to face that as a reality after you deployed.
01:39:28.000As far as teaching people how to do those techniques, I think that's very, very wrong because if you're involved in a war, you're supposed to treat your enemy combatant with a certain amount of respect if they've surrendered to you. you're supposed to treat your enemy combatant with a certain And I think that as a country, we should always be taking the high ground.
01:39:52.000And for Dick Cheney to come out and advocate torture again, well, that means he's putting us on the low ground.
01:39:58.000And again, because then when somebody tortures us or when somebody does something to us, we will have no recourse or no high ground position to take anymore.
01:40:11.000So therefore, how can we be morally on high ground at all?
01:40:15.000And I beg to ask the question, here's a guy with five deferments from the military telling us what foreign policy we should have and how we should operate with enemy combatants or enemy soldiers or everything like that.
01:40:30.000A guy who he himself was a coward and got five deferments from the Vietnam War?
01:40:44.000Yes sir, it is bold, and expanding on that, Bush wrote a book last year admitting he ordered torture, he'd do it again.
01:40:50.000The Army's own report from Abu Ghraib admits small children were raped in front of their parents.
01:40:55.000That's NBC News, you want to pull up the full report, you got the will to read it, listeners.
01:41:00.000This is what the good guys supposedly do, but they're not even worried about moral high ground.
01:41:04.000When foreigners do torture, it's horrible, it's terrible, they're dastardly, they're evil, but then simultaneously it's good when we do it.
01:41:12.000They're trying to warp our minds, but here it is, it says, with last week's release of Department of Justice...
01:41:19.000Legal counsel opinions it is now widely known that Bush administration officials distorted survival evasion resistance and escape training a legitimate program used by the military to train our troops to resist abusive enemy interrogations by authorizing abusive techniques from the S.E.R.E.
01:41:36.000Sears training for use in attaining interrogations.
01:41:39.000So the point is what was declassified last week is Everybody getting Sears training at Special Forces level now, it's not how to resist it, it's how to do it.
01:41:49.000They're building an army of torturers.
01:41:52.000Well, then we should be hanging our head in shame, because that's not... I don't care what happens, that is not what the United States of America is supposed to be about, Alex.
01:42:03.000And like I said, if we lose all our moral high ground, then we certainly have lost the war on terror, because, you know, when our Constitution and our Bill of Rights don't exist anymore, Well, that means the terrorists have won.
01:42:18.000But I think that that happens internally.
01:42:20.000It doesn't happen from the terrorists.
01:42:22.000I think the terrorists are being used as an excuse.
01:42:24.000Well, I think there's no doubt whoever the terrorists are, and we know it's black ops, private corporate criminal networks that are doing the lion's share of it, that the terrorists have won.
01:42:34.000And the government, the media are terrorizing us.
01:42:38.000What's your take, Governor, on we were told bin Laden's been killed after nine and a half years and now they say we gotta take more rights.
01:43:06.000If we indeed, if this was indeed the man who masterminded 9-11, and we've now killed him like they told us that they have on May 1st or whatever the date was, well then, shouldn't we be getting immediate withdrawal from both Iraq and Afghanistan and bring all our men and women home?
01:43:47.000We needed to find out how he achieved 9-11 because what happened on 9-11 I believe today it was not a controlled demolition, it was not nanothermite, and it certainly was not the pancake effect of two planes hitting a building.
01:44:05.000There was something else in play there, Alex.
01:44:08.000There was a weapon in play that day that I don't even know what it is, but I can equate it to being like a microwave.
01:44:15.000You know how you can take a piece of chicken and put it on a paper plate and stick it in the microwave and the chicken will burn, but the paper plate won't?
01:44:43.000Cars that didn't have anything fall on them were completely fried, but expanding.
01:44:47.000Just like a secret helicopter reportedly crashed.
01:44:50.000We know they're 30 years advanced, what they really have.
01:44:52.000But there's another area that if you look at it, British physicists and others, and it turns out the government did measure this, you can confirm it.
01:45:01.000Radioactive isotopes used in small nukes were picked up in levels off the charts in and around the towers.
01:47:15.000That should have been the highest priority.
01:47:17.000But again, I understand if it truly went down and the SEALs made the call on the ground, I understand why, because that's the same policy that we had for the last 40 years.
01:47:47.000And following the M.O. of these people, the SEALs probably thought, if they did do this mission, that they were killing bin Laden.
01:47:53.000And they had a lookalike in there who was playing part in some drill and then found out it was real.
01:47:59.000And the SEALs shot him and they threw him in the ocean and told the SEALs, good job, you killed bin Laden.
01:48:03.000That's exactly how the globalists operate.
01:48:05.000But again, that is going through a theory.
01:48:09.000All I know is that the official story of 9-11 doesn't fit into a guy in a cave being able to carry it out.
01:48:14.000And regardless, Governor, they've used 9-11, we got the Homeland Security Mike reports two years ago, to go after the American people and to take our liberties.
01:49:21.000Of course, it was last year we did the episode on the police state where we produced a Homeland Security bill that said FEMA was to build no less than six internment camps throughout the country.
01:49:32.000When I inquired as to who was going in these and why these were being built, You know, we got stiff opposition in Washington, and of course they came down on the parent company of True TV, and they pulled the show.
01:49:47.000It only aired once, and now they won't even acknowledge that the show exists.
01:49:51.000Fortunately, you can see it because it aired that one time, so it's going to be out there on YouTube, but officially it's not part of the show anymore.
01:49:59.000Of the 15 episodes we did, I guess there's only actually 14 now.
01:50:03.000What about the future of Conspiracy Theory, which came out last season as the number one new show.
01:50:09.000Then they put it in the dead zone Friday night.
01:50:11.000Still the number one new show for second season.
01:50:20.000Well, just that, you know, the ball's in their court, whether it'll be renewed or not, I can't say at this time.
01:50:26.000I don't know if it will or will not be.
01:50:28.000But they had us submit eight new conspiracy theories to them, and so they will look them over and I guess make a determination of whether we're back on the air or not.
01:50:38.000But they haven't promoted us at all, so that's not a good sign.
01:50:42.000Yeah, should folks try to contact TruTV or Time Warner and tell them put that good informative I don't do that, Alex.
01:50:51.000If people want to do that, that's up to them.
01:50:53.000But I won't ask for people to do that at all.
01:50:58.000If people are inclined to want to do that, I encourage them that they certainly can, but I won't ask for that at all.
01:51:30.000So there is Homeland Security ruining your TV show.
01:51:34.000Yeah, very well could be because of the fact that I, you know, I have the pending lawsuit and therefore I cannot fly commercially, so I can't go out on location anymore unless they fly me in a private jet, and they certainly don't have the budget for that, I can assure you of that.
01:51:49.000Just like the Jews in Nazi Germany, first they wouldn't let them travel, wouldn't let them do business.
01:51:55.000Now Homeland Security, headed up by Schumer and others, are saying that you will be on a no-work list, no-travel list, starting with trains, aircraft, no-gun-buy list.
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01:55:48.000This is my second book way up on the bestseller list and again it hasn't been reviewed by any mainstream media to my knowledge.
01:56:18.000This isn't an internet kill switch that Homeland Security set up.
01:56:21.000It's really an internet takeover system, and the government's admitting now they may start shutting down alternative media, and that they're going to start broadcasting government announcements over all media, breaking in.
01:56:32.000I mean, doesn't that sound like the running man?
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02:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:00:23.000Well, for this little short segment and the next, former congressman Bob Barr, author, researcher, libertarian presidential candidate, bobbarr.org, libertyguard.org, he's been on the front lines exposing the expansion of the war on terror, the attack on our liberties, and the TSA and all the horrible activities they're engaged in.
02:00:45.000Now, congressman, I'm even seeing mainstream media say this is a federal Unsworn police force doing things FBI can't even do.
02:00:53.000They have no statutory authority to stick their hands on the outside and touch the genitals or inside as you know.
02:01:00.000Now a federal judge has said that you have a right to have TSA.
02:01:03.000They upside down put their hands down your pants at the school proms in Santa Fe.
02:01:10.000They're announcing a rollout on the highway, streets, roads.
02:01:16.000What's your overall view of where this is going?
02:01:19.000It's outrageous, and if Americans don't do what you and many of your listeners have been doing by setting the example, and that is to stand up and say, not just no, but a hell no, then the limitations on government and the protections for our privacy and our persons that are embodied in the Fourth Amendment will be essentially meaningless.
02:01:41.000It's just absolutely outrageous, not only what government and PSA in particular are doing, But what is most distressing is the number of Americans that sit back like damn sheep and accept this nonsense.
02:02:02.000The Texas legislator voted in the House 138-0 unanimous to enforce the law and not let them grope women and children, or men for that matter.
02:02:15.000And then the Republican leader of the Senate, the Lieutenant Governor David Dewhurst, And there are state senators on record in the Dallas Morning News, you name it, that he said, don't let anybody know I'm doing this.
02:02:28.000But with the Justice Department, he threatened and lobbied, and the Justice Department put a letter out publicly, Congressman, saying they would blockade and have a no-fly zone over Texas if they did not back off of this bill.
02:02:46.000Well, I used to think that the slogan, don't mess with Texas, actually meant something, but I'm beginning to wonder now that they backed down on this, at least the Senate apparently did.
02:03:01.000I mean, it's ridiculous to let the government bully a state like this.
02:03:06.000A knife, no-fly zone, the people can't fly in and out of Texas.
02:04:31.000Headline yesterday, powerful bipartisan group is forming in the House of Representatives to defund part of the TSA and defund the naked body scanners.
02:04:41.000As a former senior congressman, Bob Barr, let's talk about strategies that you could recommend to try to beat this and where your FOIA requests have gone with Liberty Guard dealing with these political persecution lists reportedly that the TSA keeps on Americans.
02:04:57.000We'll be right back with Bob Barr on the other side.
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02:08:32.000Bob Barr is our guest for this one segment to look at the whole TSA situation.
02:08:38.000Congressman, why have you weighed in and started an organization and four-year request dealing with the stand-down of Thanksgiving and the reported secret political persecution list of the TSA?
02:08:52.000Why, for you, is the TSA such an important issue?
02:08:58.000It's such an important issue, Alex, because it embodies what is happening to our Fourth Amendment protection, which is the Fourth Amendment being the essential privacy protection that we as citizens in a free society have, or should have, against unreasonable government intrusion.
02:09:19.000If there is a better example other than some of the nonsense with the Patriot Act, which we can talk about on a different day, which is very important.
02:09:28.000A better example of how the government does not give a darn about the Fourth Amendment than what TSA is doing, then I'd like to hear it.
02:09:38.000When a person, and I've had this happen to me, goes through to board a plane, first of all, I don't think they have any right or reason to look at my ID.
02:09:50.000That has nothing to do with whether or not I have weapons or explosives.
02:09:54.000But be that as it may, once a person goes through the metal or explosive detectors, unless there is some other reason, articulable reason, the TSA has to suspect that person posing a danger, they have no right whatsoever to search that person further.
02:10:11.000And to say, well, simply because you don't want to have a nude body scan taken of you, You're going to have a groping, which used to be reserved for suspected criminals upon arrest or detention.
02:10:27.000That provides the reasonable suspicion as absolute nonsense.
02:10:31.000So the point is, if we don't stop the government here, based on violation of Fourth Amendment, then there really is not going to be very much at all in the future that we'll be able to stop the government from doing.
02:10:43.000That's why this battle is so important.
02:10:46.000Also, a new video is out of a congressman on C-SPAN, a congressman on a recent flight, said TSA patted down child, little old lady, but ignored a man in Arab garb, and that of course, the Hill newspaper is also reporting that Paul Brown, Republican of Georgia, is saying, your state, well I have to confirm, I fly quite a bit, and in places like Santa Rosa,
02:11:16.000San Jose, other areas, New Jersey, all I see is women and children.
02:11:23.000I do not see them, if somebody's in a wheelchair and can hardly walk, they go after them like wolves.
02:11:30.000If it's a baby, they check in the diaper.
02:11:34.000If it's a young woman, but if you're wearing an Arab dress and a turban, and I'm not attacking those people and saying they should be singled out either, it's they're left alone.
02:11:47.000So this really just appears to be conditioning for the American people to have these federal goons that the FBI can't stick their hands down your pants without a warrant.
02:12:02.000Well, they do it because we let them do it.
02:12:04.000Because Americans, by the millions, say, oh, it makes us safer, or oh, I have nothing to hide.
02:12:11.000And therefore, like sheep, they let the government do this.
02:12:15.000The only way this is going to be stopped, I don't think it's going to happen through the courts, unfortunately.
02:12:20.000But we have to fight these battles through the courts also.
02:12:23.000The only way we're going to have any hope is if the people rise up against this.
02:12:28.000Uh, and go to their members of Congress, go to their state legislatures, uh, go to their senators and demand that TSA be reined in and that the Fourth Amendment actually be, uh, given, uh, the, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the power to protect individuals that it used to have.
02:12:50.000Sir, looking at the TSA announcements that they want to be in high school proms.
02:12:56.000If you're a new listener, that's not a joke.
02:12:58.000In Santa Fe, a federal judge ruling that, well, we'll send them there to grow up kids to make sure their rights aren't violated.
02:13:04.000It's just a bizarre Orwellian statement.
02:13:06.000Or TSA now actually in Florida, Texas, Massachusetts, New York, California are now setting up checkpoints On highways, not just bus terminals, and doing the groping and the hands in the pants.
02:13:21.000I mean, this is so off the charts, I can't even believe this is really happening.
02:13:26.000I mean, the Soviet Union didn't do this.
02:13:31.000It's unprecedented, and again, if we don't put a stop to it pretty darn quick, the Fourth Amendment will have lost any meaning whatsoever.
02:13:39.000The same thing is happening even here in Georgia.
02:13:42.000TSA and Department of Homeland Security are setting up, I forget what the acronym stands for, the VIPER program, V-I-P-E-R, where they will set up roadblocks on major highways.
02:13:56.000Uh, sometimes during rush hour, uh, they will set up, uh, set up folks at train stations.
02:14:02.000You might have seen, uh, a couple of months ago this happened at the train station in Savannah, Georgia.
02:14:07.000And they will, uh, uh, start conducting random searches of people, uh, stopping trucks at, uh, at truck stops.
02:14:15.000Uh, and, you know, supposedly looking for terrorists.
02:14:21.000But as you said a moment ago, and you're absolutely correct, this is conditioning Americans to having government be able to do anything it wants to them.
02:14:34.000I have been going down to Bolivar since I was a child, and I hadn't been in more than a decade, so I took my children there.
02:14:41.000And the ferry from Galveston to Bolivar, there's a road you can drive around a few miles out of the way.
02:14:46.000But I thought, let's take the little ferry.
02:14:47.000It takes about five minutes to go across.
02:14:50.000And when I pulled up, They had all the families out and they search every car now and dig through your belongings before you get on the ferry.
02:14:58.000And then they said, well, you don't like this.
02:15:06.000And then with Dominique Strauss-Kahn, they have a new bill in New York state that all of the hotel maids must wear emergency necklaces.
02:15:14.000Because one guy might have tried to grope somebody, so the idea is the government will keep you safe from everything.
02:15:21.000Well, the government can't keep you safe from everything, and every time government claims it's going to do that, historically, congressmen, aren't they a government tyranny, always the greatest threat to life, liberty?
02:15:32.000It certainly is, because they have a monopoly on legitimate power in terms that they define what the citizens can or cannot do.
02:15:40.000It's the typical government reaction, whether it's about guns, whether it's about prescription drugs.
02:15:46.000For example, we just had a bill in Georgia that was passed and signed by Republicans, of course.
02:15:53.000Uh, that now sets up a, uh, database of prescription drugs.
02:15:58.000Uh, the reason for this is, well, there are these folks out there that abuse prescriptions.
02:16:03.000Therefore, in order to make law enforcement's job easier to catch these fused cop laws, we're going to inconvenience and invade the privacy of everybody that gets a prescription filled.
02:16:13.000And people just sit back and say, oh, it makes us safer.
02:16:18.000And now, with political hit list, we know medical records have been used by presidents and people.
02:16:24.000Now, if any of these cops without a warrant want to know exactly what I'm taking, exactly what my wife's taking, exactly what my children have taken, this is one of the most sacrosanct privacy areas there are!
02:16:39.000And it's, I don't know how it is in Texas, but in Georgia and down in Florida, it's Republicans.
02:16:46.000I tell you, Alex, without exaggeration, Georgia is a perfect example.
02:16:51.000When the Republicans get into power and control both branches, both the executive and the legislative branches of state government, they impose more controls and invade more of our liberties than the Democrats did.
02:17:06.000And that's what was so wonderful about the Texas situation, the unanimous 138 vote in the House to criminalize what's already criminal with the TSA, but start prosecuting these molesters, to have Republicans and Democrats come together for the Bill of Rights and Constitution, and then have the Republican David Dewhurst, a Bush-Karl Rove protege, kill it in secret, and senators have gone public that he said, keep this secret, I'm doing this,
02:17:35.000What's your view of something like that?
02:17:45.000I mean, what does Governor Perry intend to do about this?
02:17:49.000Well, Senator Dan Patrick, the next senior Republican Senator under Dewhurst, is the one blowing the whistle and others are now in the papers saying, oh yeah, Dewhurst had federal lobbyists with him and was threatening everyone and saying they couldn't pass it while publicly saying he supported it.
02:18:08.000I mean, if that isn't a new level of political treachery, I don't know what is.
02:18:14.000I'm pretty political cowardice as well.
02:18:17.000And I'm delighted that you're standing firm on this and bringing light to this and hopefully many, many of your other colleagues in the media will be doing the same.
02:18:27.000And I hope Perry doesn't just cave into this.
02:18:40.000And then also Homeland Security saying they won't show the statute where they have the authority to stick hands down pants.
02:18:47.000The TSA is an agency with the support of its parent agency, Department of Homeland Security, that believes it's above the law, very honestly.
02:18:55.000And Congress needs to step in and rein it in.
02:18:58.000In the absence of that, what we're doing at LibertyGuard, www.LibertyGuard.org, is going through the Freedom of Information Act, which TSA is fighting.
02:19:10.000Uh, and it looks like, uh, we're, you know, we're just trying to get some basic information on, on how all of this, uh, these scanners and the groping is being conducted and so forth.
02:19:19.000And then the what authority they're refusing to divulge it.
02:19:22.000And it looks like we'll have to go through the, uh, the court system and, you know, we'll leave people support for that.
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02:23:58.000Well, there's a bunch of issues here before I get there's a bunch of issues here before I get into all the other financial and geopolitical.
02:24:19.000And Obama now quoted again saying he's got a stealth plan to get our guns.
02:24:25.000I want to spend some time on this TSA situation because this affects not just the U.S., but the entire planet, not just Texas, but every state in this union.
02:24:34.000It is now confirmed what we told you nine years ago, because then it was public as well, just not widely circulated, that the TSA is the domestic national security force.
02:24:51.000They want to make this a Republican-Democrat issue, so when Obama's in, Democrats will support the TSA, and then when Republicans are in, they'll support it.
02:24:58.000That's how they divide us in the left-right paradigm.
02:25:00.000I don't care if you're a liberal, conservative, libertarian, communist, Easter Bunny, whatever it is, you shouldn't want this to be done to you and your family.
02:25:08.000I mean, the Soviet Union, at its height, Didn't, uh, you know, take Miss Soviet Union or whatever at a checkpoint and stick their hands down their pants.
02:25:54.000A, great job to the hundreds of people that showed up during the afternoon and throughout the evening when they closed the day's session at past 11 o'clock at night.
02:26:11.000And said traitors, treason, and Dewhurst made sarcastic remarks to the media, saying I guess they don't like all we've done for them, and then laughed about Patrick and made some sarcastic comments about Senator Patrick, who's now exposed Dewhurst.
02:26:30.000I want to talk about the state police.
02:26:32.000I had a Dutch film crew with me and they couldn't believe citizens marching into a Capitol And screaming at the lobbyists, screaming at the senators, going to their offices and screaming at them.
02:26:53.000And if you don't like seeing people behave like that and do things like that, and this quote, civil society, when you have an outrageous Federal power grab meant to break our will, meant to set a precedent where they can do anything they want.
02:27:15.000Extreme tyranny calls for extreme actions.
02:29:01.000and made threats and made promises to kill it and knocked the 31 votes down to almost zero with some of these cowards.
02:29:09.000And the fact that his treachery has been shown and the fact that finally Senator Patrick hit him with both barrels and said, you are a disgrace.
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02:32:38.000And the Congress is saying, "Who do we make the checkout to?" Today seems like nobody does care.
02:32:43.000And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.
02:32:48.000Get your copy of Fall of the Republic on DVD at InfoWars.com or watch it online right now in super high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv We now take you live to the Central Texas Command Center, in the heart of the resistance.
02:33:08.000You're listening to the Alex Jones Show!
02:33:23.000I had State Representative David Simpson, who helped author the bill and was the main leader, on the unanimously passed bill to enforce the law and not let TSA stick their hands on the outside and inside of men, women, and children's pants and grab their genitals.
02:33:39.000And when he left us, I talked to him during the break, and he said, yeah, we've still got until, like, you know, later tonight, the last day of the session, or the last day for this bill to be able to get through.
02:33:51.000There may be a day or two left, but a lot's happening.
02:33:53.000The point is we need to get down there today.
02:33:56.000You need to go to the Capitol, Texas Capitol.
02:33:59.000You go and you talk to your state senators, not the House members.
02:34:02.000They unanimously voted to do the right thing.
02:34:05.000You can go pat them on the back if you want, but what needs to be done first is there's only 31 of these senators and you need to go to every one of their offices.
02:34:13.000And you can also go in in the gallery and, you know, watch the whole thing in session and let these folks know that in their offices that you do not like what's happening.
02:34:27.000So that's what we're dealing with right now, and I've already got Rob Jacobson down there.
02:34:48.000But the point is, it's for you as a citizen to go talk.
02:34:51.000It's not even a demonstration or a rally.
02:34:52.000Later, if folks want to congregate, you know, on the South Lawn or something, uh, media needs to be there.
02:34:57.000Uh, you know, I guess we could do that at 4 o'clock or something.
02:34:59.000The point is, uh, I've even got other stuff I've got to do on top of this.
02:35:03.000We just need to go down there, talk to our senators, because they're just ignoring the phone calls, uh, because they're getting so many phone calls right now and say, look, it's illegal what the TSA is doing.
02:36:51.000And she's a member of the Green Party.
02:36:54.000She's been awarded the Peace Through Conscience Award from the Munich American Peace Committee.
02:37:00.000And yesterday she appeared on state-run Libyan TV, and that's caused quite a hubbub here domestically, because she has the courage to go to that.
02:37:09.000We were talking to her yesterday on the phone with bombs going off in the background.
02:37:12.000Congresswoman, we appreciate you joining us.
02:40:12.000I wrote in the piece that I did, A Feast of Blood, about a woman whose mother is in Benghazi.
02:40:20.000And she can't, it's sort of like the situation with Hurricane Katrina, she can't get back to Benghazi because, you know, Benghazi is the stronghold of the rebels.
02:40:32.000Now, the interesting thing, what I've been told today, I haven't checked it out yet, But that there is a sort of active Israeli intervention in Benghazi, and that the Israelis are on the ground under contract, probably being paid, to organize the NATO alliance that consists of Libyans.
02:41:00.000But it's my understanding that these so-called rebels are not just Libyans.
02:41:06.000They are people from all over the region.
02:41:32.000Why did you decide to go to Libya, former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney?
02:41:37.000Well, I guess, you know, I'm accustomed to going into conflict zones, and I just could not accept that this was being done in my name, and I just could not accept that this was being done in my name, and, you know, there comes a point when you're you're tired, and you want to do as much as you can possibly do.
02:42:06.000And of course, I come from the Catholic tradition that instructs us that we have an obligation, we have a responsibility to do as much as we are gifted to do.
02:42:19.000And so being here was my way of making a contribution.
02:42:26.000And sure enough, the fact that I was here when the most intense bombardment of Tripoli... This is Tripoli!
02:43:02.000What that has to do with any kind of humanitarian intervention is beyond me.
02:43:08.000This is What we know the United States to be very good at, and particularly on the African continent.
02:43:16.000We've seen it over and over and over again.
02:43:20.000Individuals of wealth and resource who are able to pull the levers on U.S.
02:43:27.000military and diplomatic policy are able to Arm a small group of people, give them the financial wherewithal to wreak havoc and terror on a population, and then all of a sudden, presto abracadabra, you've got what is called in the media a civil war.
02:44:23.000And I am certain that at the end of an investigation, were we to have one, we would find that there are certain individuals involved in this, and they are able to dictate to the President, to Cameron, to Sarkozy, to all of the NATO allies, they are able to dictate them going to war.
02:45:02.000He's actually delivered to the people the government spoils, and it's become a major hub for all of Africa, and he's been developing Africa and moving towards an African currency and a loan program.
02:45:15.000hundreds of billions in gold and other resources.
02:45:19.000And you can say what you want about Gaddafi, but bottom line, this is a takeover.
02:45:23.000You know, how can the neocon media call you a traitor for being over there reporting the truth when it's admitted that what Gaddafi said three months ago is true, that the main force, this is now in the Wall Street Journal and LA Times, that is running all this is al-Qaeda.
02:45:41.000In fact, the Al Qaeda commander under CIA payroll admits that he killed U.S.
02:45:54.000Just join Al Qaeda and the neocons are going to say you're great.
02:45:58.000Well, that's exactly the point, because we remember what Robin Cook, the now-deceased foreign minister of the United Kingdom, had to say about Al-Qaeda.
02:46:10.000He just said it was the CIA's Rolodex.
02:46:13.000So, it is... And he died a week later.
02:46:46.000But I will never forget the op-ed that was written by Robin Cook.
02:46:53.000And so I advise everybody, I know you talk about this and you know you're one of the rare truth-tellers, and so you will remember this, but the fact that we had someone of Robin Cook's stature and position To tell us the truth about exactly what Al-Qaeda was is very important and something not to be forgotten.
02:47:53.000Well, here's another thing that is absolutely astounding.
02:47:57.000and the tribes he's with are not anti-black African, and it's admitted that they're lining up blacks and killing them in the areas held by al-Qaeda.
02:48:07.000What's the word on that, on the genocide against black Africans in Libya?
02:48:13.000Well, here's another thing that is absolutely astounding, and that is this whole idea that black people shouldn't be in Africa, which is something that was promulgated by the American press.
02:48:28.000When, I presume, is that when they landed and they saw black people all over Libya, they were shocked.
02:48:36.000Well, the fact of the matter is that you've got a sizable chunk of black people in Libya because you've got black people all over Africa.
02:48:49.000Uh, you know, it's just, it's horrible and it's insulting to the Libyans themselves.
02:48:57.000And so now they have their own citizens.
02:49:06.000In fact, I'm having the video of this.
02:49:10.000I think there may be some footage of this on the internet already, but I am getting it uploaded now so that I can disseminate it through my own network of the family members of those The Libyans who were lynched, they've gone to lynching and beheading of the blacks.
02:49:35.000And this is being done by the NATO allies.
02:49:38.000Because it's known that blacks on average are supportive of Gaddafi because he doesn't lynch them and chop their heads off.
02:49:56.000They don't have to go through a bank in order to have a relationship with their professor at a university because they have free education over here.
02:50:08.000All the way up through the PhD level, you go to school No, no, I've studied Libya.
02:50:13.000I don't even agree with socialism, because it only works if you have a benevolent dictator, and I'm not saying he's that.
02:50:19.000But Qaddafi does take most of the money and actually use it.
02:50:25.000It is a shining jewel of development, and they want that giant canal he's built, that huge airport they built for AFRICON to launch attacks all over Africa.
02:50:34.000I mean, really, Libya is the beachhead to really take over Africa.
02:50:40.000And in addition to that, you have the European countries were trying to have some Mediterranean alliance.
02:50:53.000And what they proposed was that the African countries on the Mediterranean littoral be joined in an economic arrangement with all of Europe.
02:51:07.000And Gaddafi was the one who said, no, that's not fair.
02:51:12.000If it's all of Europe, then it ought to be all of Africa.
02:51:17.000And so he put a stop to that particular plan.
02:51:24.000But of course, you know, nothing would be in limbo if you got those puppets, the NATO allies, in control and recognized as a legitimate government of Libya.
02:52:34.000Now there's another thing that I'll be writing a little bit more about, and that's supposed to be the geological survey that the Libyan government had just to ascertain exactly what their resources were and the extent of whatever the mineral reserves were that they had.
02:52:57.000And apparently it came back That Libya had far more oil resources than they previously thought.
02:53:11.000Now the word is instead of 1 trillion, 5 trillion, the oil worth a...
02:53:17.000Almost as much as all the rest of the oil that's been discovered in Africa, from the numbers I've seen, and one of the biggest areas with deep aquifers of water.
02:53:26.000Now, we've only got about 7-8 minutes left with Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, former Congresswoman.
02:53:32.000What are the best websites for people to read your reports of what's really happening in Libya and other key points that you'd like to add for the international media that is undoubtedly going to pick up on this interview today?
02:53:44.000Well, I presume that people can go to my Facebook page or Twitter and they can get the dispatches that I send out.
02:53:56.000I'm in the process of preparing one now about how the Qaddafi family members were murdered.
02:54:03.000I went and visited that compound and that is amazing.
02:54:07.000It's not even a compound, it's a house in a residential neighborhood.
02:54:21.000You asked about what it's like to be here.
02:54:23.000I mean, you know, it's like every time I'm in a hotel room and every time the air conditioner comes on, you know, I kind of jump because I know it's dark now and the bombardment is going to start.
02:54:35.000And so any kind of pop or, you know, I've only been through it, what, three or four nights now?
02:54:44.000And can you imagine what our soldiers?
02:54:47.000Both, you know, are like when they come back with post-traumatic stress syndrome, when they go through it night after night, for month after month, for year after year.
02:54:56.000This is—and the effect on the children and on average ordinary civilians, who are in no way—you know, we don't even know what the NATO design is other than to kill Gaddafi and to take over the country.
02:55:17.000And we know that the folks on the East, a lot of them, want to slaughter the folks on the West.
02:55:21.000Old tribal differences, and I'm sure just like the UN has helped carry out massacres in Rwanda and other areas, they can't wait to help out there.
02:55:29.000They're going to help folks with this humanitarian mass murder.
02:55:32.000Now, what do you make of the Russians coming out and saying This is not humanitarian.
02:55:36.000They're going to try to go to the U.N.
02:55:42.000is getting ready to start a war with them.
02:55:44.000The Chinese are saying they're ready to go toe-to-toe.
02:55:47.000I mean, it looks like we're moving towards World War III, all with the left cover of Obama up there.
02:55:52.000Well, of course, that's why he was put in a hub to start with, you know.
02:55:56.000And so, yes, I'm not surprised that all of this would be happening under President Obama's watch.
02:56:04.000And then, of course, we still have the Cold Warriors, who believe that Russia and China are the ultimate and penultimate enemies of the United States.
02:56:15.000And so, rather than seeing the world as a global community, they see the world as a a collection of rivalries that need to be overcome.
02:56:28.000And so I, for one, if the Russians or the Chinese are ready to put an end to what is happening here in Libya, I would say thank you very much for helping bring some sanity back into international policy.
02:56:54.000You don't see Russia and China blowing countries up everywhere.
02:56:58.000No, and in fact, if you look at what the Chinese have done, I've seen the tangible result of what the Chinese have provided in terms of development assistance around the African continent.
02:57:10.000Well, that's the word that AFRICAN's going in, and the Pentagon admits this, to block the Chinese developing Africa.
02:57:18.000And the worst thing, of course, you know, from the whole idea about what's a threat, the threat only can be carried out if there is a means by which to do so.
02:57:31.000And as long as you keep people poor and deprived, then they do not have the ability to challenge you, whether it's in the areas of finance, or it's in education, or science, or whatever, then you can remain top down.
02:57:47.000If you can stay five more, fine, but I don't know yet.
02:57:49.000Congresswoman, what do you make... I know you're over in Libya, bravely under bombardment, so you probably don't know, but the media is trying to demonize you.
02:57:56.000How dare you go report what's happening?
02:57:58.000You know, how dare you go give another view on things?
02:58:01.000What do you make of the demonization of yourself for being over there?