There have been 4 new scandals, all as big as Climategate, affecting the White House, proving more systematic, conscious, willing fraud. Big Brother, government cover-ups. You want answers? Well, so does he. He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network and now, live from Austin, Texas.
00:00:12.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:16.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:20.000Welcome, fellow freedom lovers, those that do not wish to be slaves, listening to us across the globe on satellite, listening to us across the globe on satellite, the Internet at Infowars.com and Global Shortwave, WWCR, and all of the great people here in the United States and Canada.
00:00:52.000There have been four new scandals, all as big as Climategate, several of them affecting the White House, proving more systematic, conscious, willing fraud.
00:01:03.000Of course, I didn't need this stuff to come out and be admitted to know it.
00:01:07.000They know polar bears are the best land-swimming animals.
00:01:12.000And there are lies about all these polar bears being found dead when the truth is their numbers are exploding all over the world from Russia and Northern Europe right into Canada and Alaska.
00:01:24.000And London Telegraph reporter James Dillingpole is going to be joining us to talk about Polar Beargate and three other big enviro-fraud gates coming up in T-minus 30 minutes.
00:01:36.000And then Al Jorgensen, the founder of Ministry, that I found to be very politically astute going back into the 1980s.
00:01:48.000Very aware of the New World Order and of course an extremely popular band.
00:01:56.000You know, really influenced a lot of the modern music that we see, both rock and roll, what you'd call techno, all this stuff, really big granddaddies of all of that.
00:02:06.000And I noticed that there's a lot of people twittering around the office excitedly over the fact, I think almost everybody in the office, turns out, are big ministry fans.
00:02:16.000And of course, a few years ago, they, with a lot of courage, came out with a 9-11 Truth album.
00:02:23.000And if you go back to the early 1990s, they had albums out dealing with the New World Order.
00:02:30.000It's about right and wrong, good and evil, sampling George Herbert Walker Bush and his world government calls.
00:02:38.000And so the founder and frontman for ministry, Al Jorgensen, will be joining us in T-minus one hour.
00:02:45.000Bob Chapman, of course, always joins us.
00:02:47.000And boy, now is the time, every Friday to cover the week's economic news.
00:02:51.000And the week ahead, this is the time to have Bob Chapman on the debt ceiling, open talk of the dollar being completely devalued.
00:02:58.000The big ratings agencies that work for the private banking families holding the United States hostage, the mainstream corporate whore media that's really not mainstream anymore, the dying dinosaur media that still thinks it's dominant is a proper assessment and I myself have to stop using that term mainstream media.
00:03:16.000They are running around lying Saying, oh my gosh, the people in the House, you know, they just want America to default.
00:03:24.000No, no, there's a debate on how much taxes are going to be raised on who and what the spending cuts are.
00:03:31.000But the media is just like, why won't the Republicans give in and do the right thing and not have the country go bankrupt?
00:03:39.000And by the way, I'm not saying the Republicans are good either.
00:03:44.000Their plan is better than Obama's, but that's like saying, well, Obama only wants to shoot you in the head 100 times, the Republicans only want to shoot the country in the head 90 times.
00:03:54.000And Ron Paul's on record saying all of this is deck chair rearranging on the Titanic.
00:04:00.000All of this is putting perfume on a pig or lipstick.
00:04:03.000All of this is much ado about nothing.
00:04:06.000It's really a question with the Republicans and Democrats to their banker masters, how are we going to skin this republic?
00:04:13.000There's more than one way to skin a cat and how are we going to do it?
00:04:18.000And the Republican plan is just cut off a little more of the slop to the public, who are already having the slop they're being given, being less and less through inflation and other things, and pay more to the foreign bankers.
00:04:34.000And Obama says, no, let's rate more of the middle class and keep slopping.
00:07:37.000And the Congress is saying, "Who do we make the checkout to?" Today seems like nobody does care.
00:07:42.000And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.
00:07:47.000Get your copy of Fall of the Republic on DVD at InfoWars.com or watch it online right now in super high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:08:07.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:32.000Last night and today, from a gun dealer who I've known for many years, and he doesn't want to come on air, but it deals with the ATF and what they are secretly ordering gun shops to do around the country.
00:08:50.000And of course you've heard that they Outside of law are just saying, well when you sell high-powered rifles or sell more than two, you're to call us and report on people.
00:09:03.000And of course that's ridiculous because you're already going through the FBI NICS system and it's already all chronicled right there.
00:09:10.000This is just about extrajudicial, outside of law.
00:09:14.000They say jump, you say how high, boss.
00:09:44.000Listening to talk radio this morning and monitoring television news and the internet news, the people are saying, Obama, use the 14th Amendment.
00:09:52.000Use the Reconstruction power that was used against the states.
00:09:59.000Turn us into an open empire and the office of the presidency being the figurehead system of dictatorship.
00:10:08.000Fix the debt ceiling, save us, give us free gas, free houses you promised.
00:10:14.000Deliver us into the international banker's hands.
00:10:16.000Thank you for working with George Bush to sign us on to a thousand plus trillion dollars that we don't owe, and then beating us over the head all day with it, telling us that no one's social security checks or welfare checks or...
00:10:32.000Welfare food stamp cards will stop working.
00:10:38.000Oh please, the head of your economic council's working hard to fix the economy by moving all of General Electric's main operations to China like Boeing and others are doing.
00:10:56.000It will be much better once you do that.
00:10:59.000Please help us with government-run health care written by the insurance companies to force people to buy it and to have federal control over what procedures you can have, just like the National Health Service in England.
00:11:09.000Here's a London Independent article dealing with this.
00:11:14.000National Health Service begins rationing operations.
00:11:19.000And it just goes on that you're not going to get the hip and knee replacements, unless we say so.
00:11:24.000You're not going to get cataract operations.
00:11:26.000You're not going to get tonsillectomies when you need them.
00:11:31.000You're not going to get grommets to improve the hearing in children.
00:11:34.000Yeah, I mean, you don't need a hearing aid.
00:11:37.000Funding's also been cut in some of the IVF treatments for the national, and it just goes on and on here.
00:11:43.000And of course, this has been going on for many years.
00:11:44.000I remember six, seven years ago, I played clips here on air, because I happened to catch it and tape it somewhere in our labyrinth of unchronicled piles of hard drives and data tapes.
00:11:58.000I watched a debate in the House of Commons, and they would get up, and Prime Minister's questions, and they would say, Prime Minister Blair, and then they would read the name of their constituents.
00:14:01.000They get everything communalized, everything in a big pile, and then they steal the money out the back door, use the control for social engineering, and then tell the public, hey, If you live just like we say, do everything we tell you, and you're part of a quote in group, then you might get some health care, but the bureaucrats are going to decide.
00:14:23.000And that's exactly where they want us, just like now with the debt limit.
00:14:27.000They can openly hold everybody hostage and say go deeper into the bank's debt.
00:15:30.000Because the politicians said, too big to fail, and signed us on to it.
00:15:34.000Saying the whole economy will be brought down, total tyranny, martial law, total collapse, blood in the streets, cats and dogs living together.
00:15:42.000I'm talking about wrath of God type of stuff, to quote Ghostbusters.
00:15:45.000That's what they said in Greece a few months ago.
00:15:47.000That's what they said in Ireland a few months ago.
00:15:52.000And now they're right back to it, and the government gives in.
00:15:55.000And see, the public right now with this whole debt limit thing and being taught about dollar devaluation and being threatened with total default and total collapse, the public's being set up now that, oh, it was our $14 trillion in debt that we actually, through welfare and through entitlements and defense, really do owe.
00:16:14.000through treasury bills to people that have bought them.
00:16:22.000And then you find out that the city of New York, Manhattan, years ago had over a trillion dollars in liquid slush funds in the comprehensive annual financial reports.
00:16:32.000You find out that there are families, Russian media estimated the oligarchs, who turned out to be Rothschild fronts, that was even the Financial Times of London, control three hundred trillion dollars and that was a decade ago.
00:17:01.000And they keep taking us deeper down this road.
00:17:05.000Of, give us more power, give us more control, or you will be destroyed financially.
00:17:11.000But you notice now that it's like a young woman and a guy in a parking lot puts a gun to her and he says, get in the car, I'm gonna kill you.
00:17:19.000Well, honey, he's planning to take you to a shack where he's gonna slowly rape and torture you over a couple months and what psychopaths call using you up and feeding off the begging and the crying and the pleading.
00:17:31.000That's like Beethoven to these people.
00:17:59.000And you're blind to them, just like a woman, the guy puts a gun to her, and she gets in the car, and, you know, she would be better to scream and yell, and he might even pump a round into her, but generally they don't want to get caught, they'll let you go and run.
00:18:11.000Or even worse, guy pulls up and yells at Volkswagen, it's Ben Bernanke, hey, get in with me, honey, I'm wearing a suit, these guys in suits are safe, you get in the car with them, and next day you're chained down, and he's biting chunks out of your back.
00:18:27.000They're saying, you know, get in the car.
00:18:28.000Well, we're now in the car and they pulled a gun out and they're saying, now, now, now, listen, you're signed on to our derivatives or I'm going to shoot you.
00:18:36.000Well, you better just knock the window out of the car.
00:18:43.000It doesn't mean that you're going to be able to even get out of this now, but at least you're going to run the car off the road and he's going to have to shoot you and you got a chance of getting away.
00:18:55.000And I know America, just like with Nazi Germany, and the Soviets, and the Chinese, and all of it, you want to go to the shack.
00:19:02.000And you're not going to wake up till Ted Bundy, aka New World Order, has been raping you for about two weeks, and biting chunks out of you, and putting cigarettes out in your eyes.
00:19:13.000Now, I know that's what you're really looking for, and I know you like government killing 200-plus mil last century, and so you've allowed it, because you won't admit these are psychopathic, hardcore criminals.
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00:21:28.000We the people grow cotton, weave fabric, engrave ink, embed strips and fibers to protect from counterfeit, and carting to a private bank, having it led back at interest, forcing taxes to service debt.
00:21:38.000Or was Jefferson correct when stating a central bank issuing the public currency is a greater menace to the liberties of the people than a standing army?
00:23:00.000Jerry and his family, like you, are very concerned about world conditions and have gathered many emergency preparedness items, including turtle tuft shelters.
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00:23:59.000While you were sleeping, they came and took it all away.
00:24:09.000The lanes and the middle, the places where you used to play.
00:24:21.000It was an inside job by the well-connected.
00:24:28.000You see, it's a mathematical, societal, historical fact that if you allow corruption to grow and if you get rid of checks and balances in government, whether it's Rome, Germany or the United States today, "Uh, whether it's Rome, Germany or the United States today, "Uh, That you will be absolutely and totally and completely enslaved.
00:24:52.000Because even if you have moderately corrupt people that get away with corruption, over time the more avarice-filled and cunning get into all of those positions.
00:25:01.000And then you get a Mao, a Hitler, a Stalin, a Fidel Castro.
00:25:06.000And we've seen Hugo Chavez transform completely into a lying dictator.
00:25:11.000With staged elections and arrests and the shutdown of political speech.
00:25:15.000And there's a flotilla of laws, I'll get to later in the broadcast, where just outside of law, they are shutting down free speech, total internet tracking.
00:25:26.000I happen to have here, and to my knowledge, no gun dealer has put this out.
00:25:30.000We actually have the ATF letter directly from a gun dealer known personally to yours truly, where they command them to surveil and report on their customers outside of law.
00:25:40.000And this is basically indentured servitude.
00:25:43.000It turns them into confidential informants.
00:25:46.000And so you're ordered to be their informant, similar to some of the sections of the Patriot Act, where they order you to surveil people and then not tell anyone.
00:25:53.000And then if you find out that the FBI has broken into your house without a warrant under sneak and peek provisions, then you can't tell anyone that they've broken in.
00:26:12.000And if this is put up with, if people don't stand up against this, And I gotta tell you, you know, it even takes courage in this police state for the gun dealer to give this to me.
00:26:23.000And it's a testament that these letters haven't come out to date.
00:26:28.000And that tens of thousands of gun dealers have been sent these in the last few weeks, and that none of them have the courage to even leak it.
00:26:35.000I mean, you need to see the gun dealers come out and say, this is illegal, together.
00:26:39.000Or, next, they're going to be telling you to do even more, like they did in Phoenix and other areas, where the government comes in and says, You are going to ship guns to these people we tell you to and videotape the whole thing.
00:26:53.000And the people are like, well, I don't want to do that.
00:26:57.000So this is all part of like the mafia coming to your grocery store and saying, you're going to start paying me a cut.
00:27:03.000And instead of beating the person's brains out with a baseball bat, There's not a lot of mafia in the South and Texas in places because in the past people would kill you.
00:27:11.000In the North, folks put up with it as soon as immigrant populations came in from Eastern and Southern Europe who were accustomed to that and the predators would prey on people that had been taught how to bend over.
00:27:21.000But here in Texas, you come into somebody's place, they don't care, they're just going to kill you.
00:27:25.000I mean, in the old days, my grandpas were nothing special.
00:27:28.000They weren't the toughest guys in the world.
00:27:30.000Well, maybe they kind of were, but the point is, they were the types of people that just, if somebody did anything to them, they were very nice and friendly, you were going to get your head stomped in, and if you pulled a gun, they were going to kill you.
00:27:43.000You see, now in America the mafia comes, the bombers of Oklahoma City.
00:27:50.000And they tell people to do this, and everybody just grovels.
00:27:53.000We need to legally do something about these criminals that have been caught shipping guns into Mexico to now blame the Second Amendment and execute this.
00:28:00.000Now, I've got Ted Anderson here, and Dillingpole's coming up, and I have to get him on about 35 after, so I've got to cover this financial news with Ted at the end of this segment, the start of the next.
00:28:09.000GDP at 1.3 growth, that's a complete joke with Cook numbers, but with inflation, I mean, that means we have a negative growth rate of about 8%.
00:28:30.000And again, they're teaching us right now that the dollar is going to die and we're going to go into a depression because we didn't raise taxes.
00:28:40.000We're all being taught how it's our fault and the global crash will be the 14 trillion we owe, not the 1.5 quadrillion created by the bankers.
00:28:47.000And I wanted to bring Ted Anderson up here today with a Friday gold deal that's going to run through the weekend, but also to talk about the economy.
00:28:55.000But Ted, before we go to break, people need to protect themselves.
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00:31:59.000Hi, this is Steve Shank and Babs Rosberg with eFoods Direct.
00:32:02.000Babs, you work a lot with shipping and things are going absolutely nuts with this new Independence Month Patriot Pack that eFoods is giving away.
00:32:10.000The way things are going, we're shipping thousands of these great little Patriot Packs out.
00:32:14.000Just an example, Sherry from Arkansas made a $1,300 order.
00:32:18.000We shipped her five free Patriot Packs.
00:33:26.000Okay, we have gotten the secret because it's not been released and they're telling the gun dealers not to let the public know.
00:33:35.000The ATF comes and says, hey, we don't have a law, but we're going to order you that you cannot...
00:33:43.000Sell somebody more than two guns in a week, two or more guns, and then you have to call us like it's a crime so we can then go harass them at their homes.
00:33:53.000I've talked to people, who of course are scared, who go buy two rifles because they're on sale at Academy, Walmart, local gun shop, whatever the case is, and the ATF and FBI come to your house.
00:34:07.000If you buy, now it's even 500 rounds of ammo that are coming to your house.
00:34:10.000Like, you're a criminal, and they're saying, oh, because of the carnage in Mexico when it was the government that shipped the guns into Mexico.
00:34:16.000So they don't care they got caught running this false flag against the Second Amendment.
00:35:28.000Head of Obama's Jobs Council is moving jobs and economic infrastructure to China, including their giant multi-billion-dollar-a-year x-ray business.
00:35:37.000In fact, now we're hearing that a lot of the naked body scanners are going to be China-made.
00:37:36.000You need to have this American Dream video.
00:37:39.000People are crazy not to order this thing.
00:37:42.000Right now, $85 gets you two silver dollars.
00:37:45.000You know what's happening in the silver market right now.
00:37:48.000You get the video and it's like a presentation that's entertaining At the same time, you understand the system by the time it's done, and you're going to be able to hand it off to your friends that they'll want to watch it too, just because it's that kind of entertainment.
00:38:01.000And, you know, it's like that, I don't know, it's one of the best tools I've found to wake up people that I have out there.
00:38:58.000Folks should get the American Dream package, as it's called, because that's the name of the film.
00:39:05.000But what are some of the gold and silver coins, and we're going to James Dillingpole, what are some of the other special radio listener specials that you're going to hold through Sunday night?
00:39:13.000Well, very popular is the American Eagle right now, currently at $1,744.
00:39:18.000The bags of survival dimes, they're the old junk silver bags, they're currently right now at $3,083.
00:39:23.000You've got to realize it almost takes 31 dimes, new dimes, to buy one constitutional silver dime now.
00:39:34.000There's a lot of things that I have right now.
00:39:36.000I would just call the British Sovereigns and the Franks are nice because they're small and they're, you know, it's more of a smaller piece of gold you can use to trade for groceries, this type of thing.
00:39:46.000The big one-ounce coins, I mean, right now they're at $1,700.
00:39:49.000Alex, when we first started working on them, they were closer to $200.
00:39:52.000You know, back then, it, you know, you could buy, it bought a lot less.
00:41:07.000I mean, I just want to run out of here and go shoot a special video and write a news article about this because this is so incredible, but that's coming up.
00:41:13.000We've also got Al Jorgensen, the founder and head of the mega successful rock band, techno, trance, whatever you want to call it, the granddaddies of so much of modern music that's so popular today, of ministry is going to be joining us for a full hour coming up.
00:41:30.000But going to London Telegraph writer, Best-selling author, his new book's out, Watermelons, The Green Movement's True Colors.
00:41:38.000I would call them banker melons, because they're communists that communize your wealth to give to the offshore banks, but it's always a Soros behind every great commie.
00:41:46.000But Polar Beargate, and I've got a report here, there's three other big breaking things that show total fraud and lies.
00:41:53.000I mean, basically they say Give all your money to Al Gore and kill yourself, and the Earth will be saved.
00:41:58.000So Al Gore can have, you know, some more 20,000 square foot houses.
00:42:02.000But this polar bear gate goes right to the White House, and I want to break it down.
00:42:06.000I mean, you know, the hoax that polar bears can't swim, well now it's that they can't swim long distances.
00:42:11.000This has all been exposed as a calculated fraud, and James Dillingpole joining us.
00:42:19.000From this point of view, there's a guy called Charles Monnet who works for the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management Regulation and Enforcement.
00:42:30.000And this guy has been in charge of a budget worth around 50 million dollars.
00:42:39.000Now, how did he get to be put in charge of this budget of 50 million dollars?
00:42:43.000Basically, in 2004, He came up with this amazing report which showed that these polar bears had drowned.
00:42:54.000Apparently they'd been exhausted by swimming too far away from the land mass and it was all somehow to do with man-made global warming.
00:43:09.000Do you remember how he used it in his propaganda film, An Inconvenient Truth?
00:43:14.000There was that graphic of a drowning polar bear, you know, again, killed because of man's greed and selfishness and global warming.
00:43:22.000And then, it led to the polar bear being declared a threatened species.
00:43:29.000So, this guy Charles Mortage was instrumental in having the polar bear declared the poster child of the global warming movement.
00:43:40.000You know, the polar bear was the symbol of everything we were doing wrong.
00:43:45.000And even though in Arctic areas there are numbers of what doubled in the last 50 years and they're known as vicious 1,200 pound rats that are just running around everywhere.
00:43:54.000Well, Alex, it's true that in the last 50 years the polar bear population has increased I'm sorry.
00:44:03.000I think it was about 5,000 50 years ago.
00:44:05.000It is now estimated to be around 25,000.
00:44:09.000Now, I do not call that an endangered species.
00:44:25.000You go on a cruise to Alaska, and I think the bald eagle's a neat bird, but they take you to the dump on tours where you watch them eating their favorite food, diapers, and they literally, you'll see 20 of them in a tree, 10 of them in that tree, eating all the fish.
00:44:49.000I think you know and I know, Alex, that the environmental movement has a pretty good record of playing fast and loose with the facts on endangered species.
00:44:58.000Well, they're also constantly being caught over and over again in the U.S.
00:45:01.000dumping species that aren't endangered overall, but they say in an area are endangered, and they've been caught over and over again releasing animals and then finding them.
00:45:11.000Well, you've got your Texas land listed, of course, haven't you, which has been causing trouble.
00:45:15.000No, sir, we have a cave bug here, used to steal hundreds of thousands of acres from private citizens, and then the green fascist then turned around years after, once they got the land, and sold it and own it personally.
00:45:27.000They are absolute supreme rulers of this area.
00:45:30.000There's the snail darter, there's the California delta smelt, there was the spotted owl that stopped any deforestation happening on the Pacific coast.
00:45:44.000You know, these animals are used by the environmental movement as a way of essentially Well, it's a war against anyone's private property that isn't theirs.
00:46:03.000They're exempt from all their rules, like General Electric.
00:46:05.000Now, let's talk about Polar Bear Gate, because this goes right to the heart of them.
00:46:09.000Well, I think what's interesting about this case is, number one, how is it that this guy is being prosecuted, or investigated at least, You know, this guy works for a federal agency under the Obama administration.
00:46:25.000You would have thought that any guy working for a federal administration who comes up with a story showing that man is evil and we're endangering the environment, you would have thought he'd be given, at the very least, a Congressional Medal of Honor for his service to the cause of green lunacy.
00:46:45.000Don't forget, the Obama administration is in it up to the hilt with eco-fascist values.
00:46:51.000You know, you've got people like Lisa Jackson at the EPA, you've got Carol Browner, you've got the eugenicist John Holdren, you've got all these crazy eco-looters.
00:47:01.000I think it can only mean, or rather investigate it, it can only mean that whatever this guy has done, it is really a quite serious case of fraud.
00:47:17.000This is not a guy whose innocent research has been corrupted and misreported and distorted by the media.
00:47:26.000This guy must be guilty of some kind of serious malfeasance.
00:47:31.000Now, I've been looking at the interview transcript of, you know, The Inspector General has been investigating his case.
00:47:42.000And it's quite obvious, reading the transcript, that this guy, Charles Monnet, has been guilty of the most outrageous junk science.
00:47:52.000You know, he's taken the case of these bears, these polar bears, that he may or may not have seen drowning from an airplane.
00:48:04.000And he's used these three polar bears Uh, he's extrapolated from this that the polar bear is in grave danger.
00:48:12.000And remember here, we've got this guy getting a budget of 50 million pounds, I'm sorry, dollars to play with.
00:48:19.000Now, if you or I went and robbed a bank, robbed 50 million dollars from a bank, I think we know what would happen to us.
00:48:27.000Yet, In the environmental movement, in the wonderful, wonderful boondoggles of federal funding, it's perfectly okay to use junk science in order to create a scare story, and to effectively steal from the taxpayer 50 million bucks to be wasted on further eco-research.
00:48:58.000Well, I hope that this is a sign that, you know, we've seen the other evidence, the NASA report as well, I hope this is yet a further sign that the Green Ponzi scheme is finally Collapsing.
00:49:15.000You know, if this guy is being investigated, then it suggests to me that people are starting to run scared.
00:49:22.000You know, people are starting to think, hang on a second, we cannot get away with this scam any longer.
00:49:55.000They've been caught fixing the models and setting them up over and over again.
00:50:00.000You've got the whole situation at the Hadron Collider, where it showed that basically the other studies, that it's the sun driving warming, and the different particles it's sending into the atmosphere, forming cloud nuclei.
00:50:14.000I mean, their entire thing is being routed, but they don't care.
00:50:17.000They're all over the news holding up penguins and polar bears, saying they're all dying, and give your money to Al Gore and Lord Rothschild so they can have more jets and yachts, and more royal trains, or we're all dead.
00:50:28.000Although, you know, Alex, I sometimes wonder whether, you know, every time we make a big deal about the new research showing that their, you know, their theory is bunk, I think in a way, we're playing their game.
00:50:42.000Because they want to persuade us that this is an issue that can be resolved through science.
00:50:47.000And actually, we know that this has nothing to do with science.
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00:55:01.000My sweetest friend Okay, going back to James Dillingpole of the London Telegraph.
00:55:19.000Finishing your point, James, you're saying don't even debate this on science because they've been proven to be total fraudsters, their internal emails.
00:55:52.000The science is a complete red herring because the fact is that organisations like the IPCC have arranged it in such a way that real scientific debate isn't allowed to take place.
00:56:07.000In fact, what they want now is to create a situation where there is no null hypothesis.
00:56:14.000In other words, the burden of proof This is what Kevin Trenberth says, the burden of truth should now be on us evil climate change deniers to prove that dangerous man-made climate change is not happening.
00:56:33.000So even though every day Spectacular new evidence emerges that man-made global warming theory is just flawed and entirely untrustworthy.
00:56:47.000No matter how new evidence comes through, you still Well, we have this great big machine, this political machine, this business machine of rent-seeking corporatists, the machine involving all these green NGOs like Greenpeace and the World Wildlife Fund.
00:57:08.000You know, it's going to be very, very hard to derail this massive, massive gravy train which is rolling on and on.
00:57:15.000There is so much money to be made out of it.
00:57:18.000Yeah, it's a mafia system where you've got to pay them a cut of everything and then all their insiders are exempt.
00:57:22.000And then meanwhile, real environmental crises like all these trans-genetic part-human part-animal clones, oh, that's not an issue.
00:57:31.000Just, Dylann Poe, why are you so selfish?
00:57:33.000Why don't you just kill yourself and give your money to Al Gore to save the penguins?
01:00:42.000Look, I don't have words to describe this.
01:00:45.000When Bob Chapman's on, I'm going to get more into it, but I've got Paul Watson doing an article on this and Aaron Dykes, and I'm pretty distracted right now, I'm going to be honest with you, because this is such tyranny.
01:01:07.000A year ago, we found out that from Texas to California, they were quietly ordering by word of mouth, ATF coming into offices saying, if you sell two or more rifles Anything above a 22, what they call high power or semi-auto, deer rifles, anything.
01:01:24.000And by the way, gun buyers, when you finally get into a gun shop, I tend to buy more than one.
01:01:27.000In fact, that's why I don't get near gun shops.
01:01:30.000But you buy a couple guns, you already go through the FBI instant check, they already know what's going on, how many guns, you're checked that you're not a felon, and you get the gun.
01:02:29.000They're like, I don't want to do that.
01:02:30.000And I said, we're the ATF, do what you're told.
01:02:32.000So they can ship the guns into Mexico and now come out with this program to harass people that are buying guns, to go after people that are going, you know, to get guns.
01:02:42.000So, so, so let me just calmly go through the points here right now.
01:03:04.000That this was all done outside of law and that if they can set the precedent to come in and order you to do things and command you in the letter with no law, the sky's the limit.
01:03:17.000They've set the precedent that they're dictatorial.
01:03:19.000It's called authoritarian, dictatorial, that's what dictatorship is.
01:03:24.000Secondarily, as I said, they already know that you don't have a criminal background and that you bought these guns.
01:03:49.000Then they want to chill the Second Amendment.
01:03:51.000They then send ATF and FBI or both, and I've confirmed this from gun dealers and people in my office, to your house when you've bought two rifles and imply that you're a terrorist and evil and put you on a list as part of intimidation.
01:04:07.000And then, of course, the biggest issue.
01:04:08.000Remember, it's the government that shipped the guns into Mexico to track them back here to then do this program outside of law.
01:04:16.000And remember, Obama said earlier in the year he's going to do gun control, quote, by stealth, victim disarmament by stealth, and that they were going to use regulations outside of law.
01:04:27.000Use EPA regulations to shut down power plants.
01:04:30.000And so this is a total, dictatorial, criminal power grab, intimidating people that are buying guns, intimidating the gun shops, outside of law, when it's the government that criminally shipped the guns into Mexico to then cause a crisis and blame the Second Amendment inside the United States.
01:04:47.000Remember, Mexico has a total gun ban, and they've got one of the highest crime rates in the world.
01:04:51.000So, this has all been calculated very, very carefully.
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01:08:37.000talking about right and wrong, you know, good and evil, new world order.
01:08:42.000And Al Jorgensen, the founder of Ministry, is our guest and influenced You know, so much, so much of the modern music that's out there, I think, also appreciate their album they put out a few years ago, dealing with 9-11 being an inside job, and we'll play some of that music coming up today.
01:09:00.000Al Jorgensen from his compound in El Paso, Texas.
01:09:05.000He is the founder and frontman of the Grammy-nominated industrial metal band Ministry.
01:09:09.000He's also known as Al Jorgensen, Hypo Lux, Dog Alien Dog Star, and Buck Satan.
01:09:16.000In Al's 30-plus music career, he has created such bands as, and it just goes on through him, and he joins us, and one of the last albums he put out was a Rio Grande Blood, I thought was a Excellent, and we'll talk more about that with him here on the broadcast today.
01:09:32.000They're on Facebook at facebook.com ministry and 13 PlanetRecords.com, and a lot more.
01:09:42.000And I wanted to get him on because, obviously, I saw that album dealing with 9-11 Truth.
01:09:48.000And I was wondering how 20 years ago, or more now, was he talking about the New World Order and global government and all of these issues?
01:09:58.000And get a view on, you know, really his political ideas and what ministry has really stood for.
01:10:05.000Al, good to have you here on the show with us.
01:10:09.000Oh, we're just broadcasting worldwide.
01:10:11.000There's so much to talk about, but you said out of the gates that you have a bone to pick with me, so let's just get it out here on the table right now, because you're rock and roll, man!
01:10:24.000Well, I'm sure you will, but I've been listening all morning, and I've been listening to this gold chilling, which is very Glenn Beck-ish, I think, because, because, okay, What is a 2012 apocalypse?
01:10:41.000Whether it's the magnetic shift or the solar flare or an asteroid that the government isn't telling us that's coming because they don't want chaos.
01:10:50.000Do you really think gold is going to get you through those days?
01:10:56.000Okay, so obviously the banking system is done, okay, after an apocalyptic, you know, hell.
01:11:02.000Do you think that by buying supplies and gold that you're not going to be targeted for having gold and having rampaging marauders ransacking your house, which is what's going to, it's going to fall into anarchy, is going to keep you safe?
01:11:45.000Yeah, like a few hundred guns, which you've been dealing on this morning with the new ATF rule, which, okay, so just go extra times and buy 400 rounds and two guns twice a week.
01:12:01.000You know, I mean, really, uh, you know, if you want to be prepared for that, gold and silver is not the answer.
01:12:09.000Who's going to take gold on precious resources when resources are so scarce?
01:12:33.000All I know is, I was a silver and gold purchaser before I ever had sponsors, and I have a sponsor who I know has really great deals, and that's where I buy my gold and silver.
01:12:43.000I bought silver, and a lot of what I bought was at $5, $6 an ounce.
01:13:25.000So you really think it's the end of the world?
01:13:27.000runs out after 2012, and then I'm going to put a glass on or a beretta to the roof of my mouth and have a big party and go out in a peaceful way, all right?
01:13:36.000So you really think it's the end of the world.
01:13:39.000Well, I really do, and I'm not one of these, like, you know, it's really funny.
01:13:45.000I have a 2012 tattoo and I got it like three days before this initial crisis of some sect thing, like the world was going to end, you know, a few months ago.
01:13:59.000And uh, I'm going, if the earth starts rumbling, I'm going to go, the first thing I'm doing is I'm going to the tattoo shop and getting a rebate on my 2012 tattoos.
01:15:23.000Well, maybe somebody can yank it off me after, like, the marauding bands of, like, uh, rampagers and anarchists, uh, just trying to survive.
01:15:33.000Uh, you know, we'll overrun the compound with food and water and gold.
01:15:58.000When the Spanish conquistadors came here, and I mean, we have like We have churches here from like 1590 and things like this of people passing through to California.
01:16:42.000Now it does look like something out of Road Warrior in El Paso when you drive in and all those ancient looking hills and all the radio towers and like wreckage and junk all over the sides of the road and then the city and the people.
01:16:59.000Now I want to get away from this in a moment, but I want to go back to something, Al.
01:17:03.000I know we're going to be here after 2012.
01:17:04.000We're going to defeat the New World Order.
01:17:07.000We're going to defeat their designed implosion of the world economy.
01:17:12.000You know, the only way we're going to defeat the New World Order is for the people to finally get so fed up by the Republicans destroying the middle class to where people have no money.
01:17:24.000Here's what cracks me up about the Republicans.
01:18:36.000It was easy for W because of his bloodline and this and that, and people like fell in the line, just like in Augusta.
01:18:44.000But with Obama, a black president, oh my God, no, we can't have this.
01:18:50.000So, you know, we'd rather blow up the building, as Ayn Rand said.
01:18:55.000Then pursue with policies that might actually do good.
01:19:00.000I mean, I'm thinking, if we had a Democratic Congress and a Democratic President, and I mean Congress and Senate, we would have infrastructure right now.
01:19:10.000We would have the things that would make this country grow and lead things for our future.
01:19:18.000As of right now, the short-sighted terms of the CEOs, which is the Republican overboard, just want immediate cash, and they'll build their bunkers.
01:20:08.000And even the overlords don't see that if you destroy the middle class, there is no consumption.
01:20:17.000And if people don't consume the Overlord, sure they have CEO record bonuses, but that's not only gonna last for a couple years because there's nobody there to buy anything!
01:20:27.000Al, this is a planned post-industrial economy.
01:20:29.000You're saying they don't see what they're doing.
01:20:31.000I can give you the handbooks, the white papers, where this has been planned for at least 50 years, what we're entering.
01:20:41.000The ultra-rich have always sought to destroy it, so there's a giant underclass and a tiny group on top, and all I'm saying is, Versus the rhetoric and reality, Obama has continued all of the Bush policies.
01:21:05.000So, from community organizer to trying to do what's right versus these satanic people, it's a pretty difficult task.
01:21:14.000I'm gonna cut him some slack, for right now, okay?
01:21:18.000Like, I just hope they don't inject the alien bloodline DNA into him as well, so he acts in accordance with his overlord.
01:21:28.000But, uh, he's putting up as much of a fight as he can.
01:21:32.000And, uh, you know, I'll leave it at that.
01:21:34.000I mean, really, what we're dealing with is not government at all, but, like, really short-sighted... Look, this is what makes me think that 2012 is an actual reality.
01:21:45.000It's not the Mayans and some, like, crazy paintings of a guy in a spaceship on a tomb or anything.
01:21:51.000It's the fact that... Okay, here we go.
01:21:54.000Here's a guy that, um, has a website named Darren McClung.
01:22:38.000They've been building a giant COG system for 60 years, underground bases.
01:22:44.000NORAD, Cheyenne Mountain, Mount Weather, all of it, Cite.R, they have been training the military for 2012 for at least 15 years for mass gun confiscations, riots, total shutdown, because they have planned the implosion of the global economy to build the global government on top of it that we will pay our carbon taxes to.
01:23:09.000They are destroying the planet through economic Warfare!
01:24:03.000That's why it's a giant cash grab now.
01:24:05.000Fossil fuel is just a completely irrelevant thing right now.
01:24:10.000Like I said, Bush and Woolsey have their solar panel houses and generators waiting for the apocalypse because the 1% will survive and then we'll have a new No.
01:24:21.000society after six to seven billion people die in the next apocalypse.
01:24:29.000And then they'll start another system the same as the one that we have.
01:24:34.000Al, do you want to know my view on this?
01:24:36.000Because I've really studied it in depth.
01:24:38.000I know you've done some studying and talking about the New World Order before I was.
01:24:41.000So I understand you've got some deep geopolitical ideas here.
01:24:46.000But they have implanted through the fake Christian groups that it's the end of the world.
01:24:50.000Jesus is coming back, so stand down to corruption.
01:24:53.000They've used the 2012 stuff for 30 years, implanted as a self-fulfilling prophecy to expect total collapse and devastation because they are launching their operation to depopulate I agree.
01:25:11.000I agree, except for the fact that they're talking about finances.
01:25:19.000They're so callous to the whole notion of six, seven billion people dying, as long as they make their money and they have their kush bunkers, okay, with survival kits, that they don't care.
01:25:31.000Yeah, they've been planning for the economic collapse for 30 years, but they haven't been planning and nor do they care about the populace, okay?
01:25:40.000So, you know, I mean, call me left-wing on that one, I'm right-wing on other things.
01:25:46.000I've confirmed with top construction companies that are listeners, some of which have been guests here, that every CIA high-level person, every person that's worth hundreds of millions or billions and in the upper echelon within the last five years have built bunkers everywhere and have bunkers underneath their houses and are totally freaked out.
01:26:13.000I believe from things that they've said and done, they're looking at releasing airborne Ebola that's weaponized, it'll kill 99% of people.
01:28:38.000Well, I mean, that's like saying, tell me the sky isn't blue.
01:28:41.000But Al, that's not even what I'm saying here.
01:28:42.000The Republicans, the people holding it up, are the Tea Party, who aren't fully informed, but they see us being completely bankrupted if we don't cut spending.
01:28:52.000Then they have all the billionaires out like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates saying, I don't pay hardly any taxes.
01:28:58.000Raise my taxes, but you get the tax plan, they're exempt offshore, and they're going after folks making $125,000 individually, quarter mill, Listen, man.
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01:33:23.000Al Jorgensen, of course, the founder of Ministry, is our guest for the rest of the hour.
01:33:27.000Then Bob Chapman coming up on the economy.
01:33:32.000Look, we're having discussions during the breaks, and I kind of want to repeat that now here on air, and I'm like, Al, I understand the ultra-rich are avoiding almost all taxes, but it's the ultra-rich that are promoting, let's get the rich on all these TV shows, they're promoting this idea, then they're going to bait and switch it in the tax plans they put out, and literally gang rape people making Quarter million, half million, a million dollars a year that actually is funding the economy.
01:33:59.000You got the head of his economic council, the head of GE, moving their x-ray factories to China.
01:34:07.000You've got General Motors using billions to move its plants in the bailout to China and Brazil.
01:34:16.000And so all I'm saying is, I understand, hey, the rich are basically exempt from taxes.
01:34:21.000All I'm saying is they're baiting and switching it And if you look at the actual plans, not the rhetoric, it goes after the middle class.
01:34:28.000And so as Ron Paul has said, the Republican plan will bankrupt us down the road, and the Obama plan will, because none of them are talking about the $1,500 trillion the bankers created in fake derivatives that they got both parties, and the same thing in Greece and everywhere else, to sign on to.
01:34:51.000But, the problem is, is the Rambo plan, the Libertarian plan, so like, Democrats and Republicans are both screwed, also doesn't take into effect.
01:35:03.000Okay, I know you just had a segment on polar bears swimming across whatever, and then who cares, and this and that.
01:35:10.000But, I care, in the sense that the entire eastern seaboard will be under 6 feet of water, and there'll be trillions of dollars lost in that, when Greenland melts.
01:35:56.000Yet, if we do that, then it doesn't drive the wage down of the middle class, and we don't have workers willing to do that.
01:36:04.000So, the Republican Party is full of hypocrisy, okay?
01:36:09.000So Rick Perry, anti-immigration, anti-this, anti-that, and all those things like this affect boards, which make money, the one percenters, all right?
01:38:10.000And, uh, I wanted to be a baseball player, but I tore out my knees, so then I went to bull riding.
01:38:15.000But something was nagging at me that something is not right here.
01:38:19.000Okay, something is not right, and it's not what CNN tells you.
01:38:22.000Which is another point I have to make, which is so funny, that the Pentagon finally repeals Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and yet our media centers, whether it's Fox, CNN, or even MSNBC, is basically Don't Ask, Don't Tell.
01:38:37.000They don't ask the hard questions, and they don't tell you the hard answers.
01:38:57.000So I started digging into it, and started realizing bloodlines and things like that, which I know, okay, holy grail, this and that, blah blah blah, and this is all a bunch of bullcrap.
01:40:51.000That means that somebody else is calling the shots and they're allowing somebody to be president.
01:40:57.000The supposed most You know, important person in the world.
01:41:02.000So, you know, I mean, what we have here is, uh, I mean, I go back to, like, Zachariah Fitchin and Graham Hancock, and I go back to, uh, you know, even, even Von Donegan, okay?
01:41:16.000I mean, that's what got me hooked on it.
01:41:22.000But that's what got me hooked on the stuff.
01:41:24.000Then I started reading more stuff on it.
01:41:26.000Graham Hancock is another great, great person.
01:41:30.000Uh, as far as like, alien bloodlines, and uh, and, and we can't release that, because religions, as we know, would go down, and that's not possible.
01:41:39.000You notice now they're having to admit, oh, there's these Neanderthal, and we've done the DNA, and it turns out, Northern Europeans are the highest concentration of Neanderthal, and, oh, the genetic DNA is different, and then now you find out, for 20 years, or longer, they've made thousands and thousands of cross-human animal clones, but, Keep the details secret.
01:42:01.000I mean, we're not in Kansas anymore, and what you're saying, Al, to put words in your mouth, correct me if I'm wrong, we've never been in Kansas.
01:42:09.000No, we've never been in Kansas, and we've never been a human race.
01:42:12.000We're a human race only through DNA altering by species different than us.
01:42:18.000And the species that are different than us were the Anunnaki.
01:42:22.000I'm a big 12-planet theory, which is why my label is called 13-planet, which is like, well, if that's 12-planet, I've even got weirder ideas, so I'm 13-planet.
01:42:34.000And the reason it's called 12-planet is they saw the eight visible planets.
01:42:38.000They didn't see Pluto, but they saw the moons of our moon and then three gas giant moons, which made it 12 planets, through the first telescope.
01:43:13.000Like, I worked with Steven Spielberg, uh, who did Close Encounters of the Third Kind, and I worked with him on A.I., uh, Artificial Intelligence.
01:43:22.000Although, uh, I used to have a joke with him.
01:43:24.000I told him, like, the band didn't want to do the film because we thought A.I.
01:43:28.000stood for Animal Intruder and it was a porno film.
01:43:51.000We got a call from Stanley Kubrick at my house, and he's like, he really wants us to be the band in the flesh fair, and he really wants us to write the music for the film.
01:44:39.000Everyone keeps saying, the bear's down!
01:44:42.000And so we'd be, like, back there, you know, sloughing beers, you know, like, uh, waiting for the bear to come back up.
01:44:48.000Like, you know, I know Stan Winston just died, rest in peace, but, uh, you know, the, the, uh, The creator of the teddy bear and many other special effects icons that we have in our lexicon.
01:45:24.000And this treatment that I got, I still have, the treatment of the original, was much more about the intricacies of Jude Law in the new city being a male prostitute.
01:45:38.000And that was half the movie, and Spielberg took it and made it like half teddy bear, and this Donny Osmond, Joel Haley something or whatever kid, which is a good kid by the way, he's a big Ministry fan.
01:45:52.000At any rate, he made it all about teddy bears and kids when Kubrick's message was really profound.
01:48:36.000And his handler that was sitting next to him taking notes as he's going through shaking hands, Uh, Spielberg goes walking off and his handler goes running, going, wait, wait, there's a mistake, Mr. Spielberg!
01:48:49.000And then I had a run with him in this 50 pounds of, like, makeup and, like, gear that they had me wearing, and just go, wait, I was just kidding!
01:49:29.000What do you think of films like Eyes Wide Shut and the fact that at Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove, the people that are claiming they're big Christian conservatives, speaking of gay sex, are engaged in that and all sorts of Satanism?
01:49:44.000Let's go to Bohemian Grove, I'm into that.
01:49:48.000That's just like, well listen, the whole Republican Party is based on hypocrisy, alright?
01:50:34.000Because, listen, 99% of all our own either corporate or the lord all right i'll stay there al jorgensen we got to go to break he's gonna do two more segments with us we got bob chapman coming up and hopefully we can have him back up again sometime to take your calls but or maybe we'll take a few right now 800-259-9231 we'll be right back stay with us we'll be back on the other side if you drive for a living you don't get paid to stop or wait in line
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01:55:03.000Al Jorgensen is our guest in true rock and roll form.
01:55:08.000Al, we were talking during the break and you heard me tell the guys to come in with the song from one of your last albums, Rio Grand Blood, and you said, boy, 9-11 really gets me.
01:55:19.000I mean, isn't 9-11 more than just Pearl Harbor where they knew it was going to happen and had broken the codes?
01:55:25.000I mean, 9-11, when you really look at it, hijackers trained at U.S.
01:55:29.000bases, NORAD stand-down, passports that magically survive.
01:55:34.000I mean, what did you think the day of 9-11, Al?
01:55:37.000Well, I remember I was living in Austin at the time, and I remember waking up to some disturbing news, and I watched the visual, and I thought, did I change the channel while I was asleep?
01:55:52.000Because this is the Saturday Night Live spoof.
01:55:58.000And then I started digging into that and realizing that it's the same overlords that I've been talking about with our mouthpiece president that resurrected something to, what you said, a 30-year plan to destroy the markets and then resurrect them or whatever.
01:57:52.000But, if we had a Democratic Congress and Democratic Senate, okay?
01:57:57.000Do you really think we're just going to spend money like drunken sailors and run this country into the ground and just have our great-great-great grandchildren in debt and default and all that?
01:58:10.000They're going to start building infrastructure.
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02:00:10.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
02:00:14.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:00:20.000Well, Al Jorgensen, the founder and head of ministry, next time he comes to Austin, he says he's going to come in studio with us, so that's going to be exciting.
02:00:29.000You know what adds a lot of credibility to him thinking something really bad is coming?
02:00:35.000I hope it's not the case is that I've been out in Wimberley and places and there's all these scientists and former government people, even who are young, who've been out there 10, 15, 20 years saying, this is, these are our doomsteads.
02:00:49.000And then I run into microbiologists and they say, well, you're right about everything, Alex.
02:00:52.000But, you know, I mean, the point is they are setting up for something big.
02:00:57.000And I believe that, that they're instituting it, but who knows what they really know?
02:01:03.000Five of the six reactors at Fukushima blew up within a week.
02:01:06.000They knew it had happened, worse than Chernobyl, and they lied and told us everything was fine.
02:01:11.000Al, what's your take on all of this craziness?
02:01:14.000Well, I do think something's coming, if anything for the fact that, like I said, Dennis McClung, 2012supplies.com.
02:01:24.000Uh, playing on the survivalist, uh, you know, instinct of selling everything from gas masks to, like, you know, uh, homegrown garden kits, hydroponics, all this shit.
02:02:03.000This is like, the government has been planning this for a long time.
02:02:07.000Now, like I said, how it comes by, I don't know.
02:02:12.000And what a magnetic ship does, I don't know.
02:02:15.000It depends on if it's a continental plate ship.
02:02:18.000Uh, you know, what a solar flare does?
02:02:20.000Well, obviously that screws up our electronics.
02:02:23.000Uh, what an asteroid does, they're not telling us about.
02:02:25.000I mean, we're supposed to have a close one in 2029, within a hundred thousand miles, and blah, blah, blah, and this and that, and it might, it might not, but, you know, but I, I just find it amusing that the government is buying up all the survival supply.
02:02:43.000I mean, don't, don't you find that weird?
02:02:55.000Because, like I said, I'm not spending my life in some road warrior world where I've got to defend my food supplies with AR-15s, M-16s, Kalashnikovs, Glocks, gas masks, grenades.
02:03:54.000Yeah, when the dollar goes belly up, that, in every case in history, gold and silver and copper and guns and food and whiskey and cigarettes and nylon stockings and makeup, I mean, stuff like that, And guts, and like you said, friends, let me tell you something.
02:04:12.000They're going to go pick off people on the road if this actually happens.
02:04:16.000They're not going to mess with something with 10-foot walls and razor wire because they know that there's machine guns on the other side of it.
02:04:23.000Hey, the more desperate people get, 10-foot walls seem like 2-foot walls, okay?
02:04:30.000So, you know, you can't underestimate survival tech.
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02:12:26.000Yeah, Al, you had mentioned, you know, what a forest gold and silver is.
02:12:33.000I guess I can see that, you know, in a totally wiped out, you know, post-apocalyptic world, you know, where nothing is left.
02:12:40.000There's no economic system to speak of.
02:12:43.000But I'm a disabled veteran, and when I got hip to this through Alex's show about a year and a half ago, the real state of the economy, what's really going on, who the money masters are.
02:13:04.000Because if they decide to just wave their magic wand on August 2nd or something and make all the disabled vets and whoever the hell else is dependent on them, if they decide to wave their magic wand and make us all homeless and hungry, I've got a three month supply of food and I've got several thousand dollars worth of silver that I would Well let me ask you, if you bought silver a year and a half ago, that was at about $25 or $20.
02:13:35.000But my whole deal is, my whole deal is, I mean look I understand if it is going to be total Armageddon gold and silver aren't going to matter and the Bible says they'll throw their you know jewels out in the street and beat themselves on the head and try to hide under My whole issue is, I've got faith, I don't think that's the case.
02:13:52.000Gold and silver aren't perfect, but compared to fiat currencies run by the criminal bankers, it's as good as gold, and it's been great advice, and I stand by it.
02:14:01.000Now, as for going after Glenn Beck, I actually looked at that with Congressman Wiener.
02:14:05.000I mean, this is the guy that basically exaggerated and made stuff up about Beck.
02:14:14.000Okay, well, I mean, listen, the issue here is, I looked at those Gold Line deals, and yeah, Midas is a lot better than the sponsor I've got, but a lot of what Wiener said it turned out wasn't true, and so I just think this demonization of gold is because they want to keep you in paper, and all I'm saying is you ought to rethink that, because look, when I started plugging gold it was $300, now it's $1,620-something.
02:14:58.000I don't think it's going to the total apocalypse situation, but yes, in a depression, just like my grandfather's, you know, here in Texas, their dads, well it was actually my grandmother's dad, and then on the other side, well the point is, they didn't turn their gold in when Roosevelt said turn it in for paper.
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02:23:53.000Well, folks, the real interesting radio is going on behind the scenes. - Ah!
02:24:03.000And we've got Bob Chapman waiting, and I apologize to Bob.
02:24:07.000He just always comes on when we've got breaking news.
02:24:09.000Al is our guest, of course, the founder of Ministry, facebook.com forward slash Ministry, Al Jorgensen.
02:24:17.000And he's been talking to his wife during the break, and it's just really interesting talking to him.
02:24:23.000He just sprung on me, but he didn't want to plug it on air for some reason.
02:24:25.000They were inviting me down to their compound for fried chicken down in El Paso, and they were also telling me he's got a country album coming out soon, and he said he's going to send us a copy, so we'll definitely have him on for that.
02:24:37.000But you said you'd want to come back soon.
02:24:39.000You didn't even get into the Bushes and their bloodline.
02:24:41.000So Al, give us one minute on that, and then we'll let you go because you're busy.
02:24:48.000is not the start of, like, the CIA, as we speak, and, uh...
02:24:53.000Funny how when he was Vice President, Reagan tried to get assassinated.
02:24:57.000And it's funny how when Reagan said, there's no way George Bush will be my Vice President candidate, he met with the Trilateral Commission and the next day George Bush was his Vice President candidate.
02:25:09.000And then he tried to get assassinated a year later because they just wanted to put George in line.
02:25:15.000His father was Prescott Bush, Senator of Maine and the head of UPS Bank.
02:25:20.000which funded the entire Nazi war effort.
02:25:23.000Well, not entirely, because Porsche and Volkswagen and Krups and a lot of other German companies certainly threw in their share.
02:26:13.000I apologize to Bob Chapman, the gracious expert, financial expert we have on every Friday.
02:26:19.000And of course, Bob has TheInternationalForecaster.com, the preeminent Thick, twice-a-week newsletter, 40-something pages usually, total boil-down of what really is important in the news.
02:27:53.000I don't believe there's going to be a total collapse.
02:27:55.000We are going to be in a long-term, globalist, post-industrial depression that will never end as they make us wards of the state unless we beat them.
02:28:04.000But I know we're going to beat them, and they have psychically wounded the world with the fake Christian end-of-the-world stuff that's government-financed, Rockefeller-financed on record, World Council of Churches.
02:28:41.000And we're in the middle of it right now.
02:28:43.000And how long it will last, nobody knows.
02:28:46.000You could be right, it could last for years and years.
02:28:49.000But I do know that they're facing some very difficult problems.
02:28:54.000And if they can't overcome them, and they continue to get exposed as to what they're up to and what their end game is, then by the time they get there, the people aren't going to buy it.
02:29:13.000You know, the issue is, I am going to continue... The globalists, we have unlimited resources.
02:29:19.000Humanity has developed so many technologies that they've shelved, and they admit in their own documents they are purposefully cutting off the resources to the globe.
02:29:28.000They are purposefully blocking people getting solar power at their homes.
02:29:32.000They are purposefully getting us in a dependent position.
02:29:35.000Bob, I want to get into all the debt ceiling, the latest huge developments, and a lot more on the other side with Bob Chapman.
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02:30:39.000This is Alex Jones with five good reasons you should consider buying a solar power generator.
02:33:47.000Then, of course, he had the largest, most successful newsletter.
02:33:50.000A lot of folks claim that, but you can go back to the history he did.
02:33:53.000He helped publish, of course, the seminal book that, I don't know, I think it was like six, seven million copies out there, None Dare Call a Conspiracy with Gary Allen.
02:34:05.000I just want you to know the great work of Bob Chapman, and he's been forced, of course, due to harassment and things, to take himself out of the United States to live to fight another day, and he joins us now.
02:34:19.000Bob, I want to get into the economy, but Paul Watson's listening right now because he's going to do an article, so is Aaron, and they want me to decipher this.
02:34:29.000You know, the guys bring me research, but then when I research something, I kind of call them or write out notes and they do the research to confirm everything I've said into an article.
02:34:38.000But I've got some big breaking news here.
02:34:43.000Um, that, quite frankly, I couldn't even really think during the last few interviews with Dillingpole and Jorgensen because I was so upset by this, what I've learned, what the ATF is doing.
02:34:56.000I mean, this is such hardcore tyranny.
02:34:58.000And so in about five minutes, I'm going to get into this report, Bob, and then get your take on it.
02:35:04.000But we're multitasking here on air because Watson's waiting right now.
02:39:22.000And I want to impress upon the people that the people who today are 55 or older, they're going to get rid of you as quickly as possible to save money,
02:39:36.000And then during the interim, when they're cutting all this money out, a good part of it will go to the military-industrial complex so that we can have more wars, which will get people's minds thinking in a different direction, as well as great profits for these companies.
02:39:53.000And also, they will Uh, continue to cut back in the availability of medicines.
02:40:01.000I mean, we've seen a lot of reports just in the last few months where hospitals can't get this, that, and the other thing.
02:40:07.000And sometimes it's because they don't have the money to pay for the things.
02:40:12.000Uh, outside the country, Greece is a good example.
02:40:15.000They own millions and they can't get any more drugs and things that they need to save people's lives.
02:40:23.000They're gonna use the money someplace else They're going to cut back, and they're going to get rid of people.
02:40:29.000And so this is what this is all about, and they want to make that part of the package.
02:40:34.000And then the Republicans have a debate with Obama when there's not much real difference in the plan, so people think that's the only choices, instead of riding off the 1.5 quadrillion, getting back to Congress controlling the currency, slashing taxes across the board.
02:40:49.000Absolutely, and you couldn't have put it any better.
02:40:51.000And so, for those of you who didn't know, that's what they're up to.
02:40:53.000And the debt extension is ex post facto.
02:40:55.000Their problem is keeping economies slow, consolidating them.
02:40:59.000They're waging war against the engine of wealth that is liberty.
02:41:45.000And so, they're at loggerheads here, and this is what's holding everything up, and they're not going to tell you about it, certainly not the media which they control.
02:41:54.000And that's what the game is all about.
02:41:55.000In fact, the interpretation of this is so widespread, in differences, it's surprising.
02:42:03.000Right now, gold and silver are up, as a reflection of there's not going to be a deal.
02:42:10.000And the gold and silver shares are down, because the traders think in the shares, that there is going to be a deal.
02:42:18.000And it just shows you how confused these people are. - Bob, what does it signify that in the middle of the summer, you've been in this business 50 years, but in the middle of the summer, that's very rare to have gold and silver spiking.
02:42:31.000I would guess, correct me if I'm wrong, it'll probably go up a little bit more and then go down a little, but then we're gonna see 2000.
02:42:38.000I mean, a couple years ago, you said $2,000 gold is easy in the next two, three years.
02:43:06.000If you look at the base that was formed in silver, silver being the leader of the pack right now, you will see it tested eight times the $32.50 to $36 level.
02:43:18.000Now normally, and gold tested and held as well, now normally if a cat tests two or three times, it's terrific.
02:43:32.000And if you look back in history about the formations of support, you will find that is usually followed by an increase of 100 to 150% in gold and silver.
02:43:43.000percent in gold and silver so it's as simple as that so 16 16 to 3200 dollars an ounce and 35 and 35 or 70 and that's where they're going on the short term and that's why one of the reasons why we're having a spiking in gold and silver unusually unusual seasonally in the summer number two the other reasons are
02:44:11.000Gold is real money and people have realized it and they are abandoning other currencies.
02:45:27.000But we just had about $1.8 trillion that we know of that was pumped in the economy by the Fed and by the legislature in under the $62 billion.
02:46:05.000Earlier, out of the gates, Al said, look, I'm a big fan, but I think the end of the world's basically coming, and this gold thing's dumb, and I think you ought to sell it.
02:46:16.000And I said, OK, come on here and say that, because I know he's listening, too, and he's not a bad guy.
02:46:23.000Look, we said buy gold when it was $300, and it's $1,600 and something.
02:46:27.000We said buy silver when it was $5, it's $40 something.
02:46:30.000Listen, it's a law of economics throughout 6,000 years of recorded history that when governments hyperinflate the currencies commodities explode namely gold and silver so again they can manipulate things down in short term they can always give gold or silver a haircut but it always races back up
02:46:51.000I wish that I could say folks dump your gold and silver because they're bringing back good monetary policy because I'd rather have an economy and be in a good position We're saying gold and silver because we're in a desperate situation and because it's been engineered and it's not a panacea, but it's the best thing out there.
02:47:10.000If your ship's going under and you've just got some broken planks to get on, that's what you've got.
02:47:17.000It's not another ocean liner to jump on, but it's not perfect.
02:47:21.000And yeah, The government could try to come take it.
02:47:23.000It's like saying, don't have kids, the CPS might try to come take them.
02:47:27.000Don't sail across on the Mayflower, your kids may die when they get to Plymouth Rock.
02:48:17.000We'll obviously go into overdrive, and Paul Watson's standing by, and so's Aaron, for me to give them the breakdown of this.
02:48:22.000And again, they're as smart as I am, or smarter, but on this, they've asked me for a breakdown to the article, so I'll give you the breakdown of why this is so huge with the ATF, okay?
02:48:32.000But I want to bring Ted Anderson up here.
02:48:34.000If you believe in what we're doing, you should buy gold and silver from Midas Resources.
02:48:41.000The brokers, who are great guys, all they're doing is taking calls for this deal, and Ted's actually losing money on it.
02:48:46.000Two silver dollars, a book that retails for $19.95, a film that retails for $9.95, a film A book, two silver dollars, and free shipping for $85.
02:48:58.000That is losing money as a lost leader because Ted wants to get the word out.
02:49:02.000I happen to know Ted behind the scenes is financing every type of libertarian organization, spending all his money literally obsessed with these issues.
02:50:34.000In fact, there's no point with Ted sitting there to even go to him now because I got to come back with the ATF News with Bob Chapman and this is the big one.
02:50:40.000But the point is, I love it when I get attacked for promoting gold.
02:50:44.000You know, we got a new employee in there that told me a few years ago he bought gold and silver and that's the only reason he's afloat financially because it went up so much in price.
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02:54:08.000They've done it over and over again in other countries.
02:54:11.000I'm watching these criminals do this stuff, and it never ceases to amaze me that when you're right about stuff, that's when you're bad.
02:54:19.000When you're wrong, that's when you're good.
02:54:22.000But with Bob Chapman, the main radio show is going to end in five minutes, but we're going into PrisonPlanet.tv and internet stream overdrive into the next hour with Bob, if you can do it.
02:56:55.000Now he's talking about an executive order to put you on a no gun by list.
02:56:58.000And he's going to do that in the next few weeks, reportedly.
02:57:01.000Where they just signs an executive order that says what Rahm Emanuel called four years ago, that we're gonna put you on a no-gun-buy list if we feel like it.
02:57:08.000No judge, no jury, no reason why you got on, can't find out why you got on.
02:57:14.000They're like, okay, we're gonna order gun dealers to do something that's pointless, except that it...
02:57:19.000Make some basically informants, indentured servants, like they're a crack dealer and the cops say, we're not going to bust you Bill or John or whatever your name is, but you have to start informing on people.
02:57:32.000So they're treating them like criminals.
02:57:34.000In this secret police thing, it's a secret police where they show up.
02:57:38.000And they tell them, you've got to start reporting on people.
02:57:43.000I've confirmed for multiple gun dealers and people in this office that when you, it's happening to Austinites, that when you buy two rifles, which a lot of people do when you go to the gun shop, I've done it, I've bought three, four guns before.
03:00:15.000It's 14th Amendment reconstruction powers, but not against the states.
03:00:19.000It's presidential dictatorship of Ulysses S. Grant against the Congress, launching wars without Congress, carbon taxes without Congress, gun control without Congress, without law.
03:00:31.000And then gun rights groups are like, well, yeah, the ATF says now we got to do this.
03:00:34.000It's about training you to do what they say.
03:00:36.000And I'm going to get, I'm going to read the letter that's never been seen.
03:00:39.000It's going to be published at PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com from an Austin gun dealer.
03:00:44.000And again, the bigger story here is not even that they're doing this outside law.
03:00:47.000They're coming and harassing and treating like criminals, people that go through the instant check and go through the already unconstitutional garbage.
03:00:54.000Bob, am I right to be completely freaked out by this?
03:00:58.000And it's happening in many fields, as you pointed out.
03:01:01.000It's the abrogation of the Constitution.
03:01:04.000And I was watching Judge Napolitano the other day, and he said that the ability of the President to use executive order to extend the debt commitment of the government is totally unconstitutional.
03:01:26.000And so we have one unconstitutional act after another.
03:01:30.000And everybody in Congress just stands there and does nothing, with the exception of a handful of people.
03:01:36.000And the reason why is they've all been paid off.
03:03:04.000And you, as usual, cut directly to the issue.
03:03:07.000If you study criminal investigations and things, and how intelligence agencies operate, they are now, outside of law, with this government order from Obama without law, saying, we're going to start going and demanding that secret forms be filled out on all your customers.
03:03:24.000And if they go along with this, it's going to be more and more.
03:03:30.000And this is turning them all into confidential informants to act like gun purchases are illegal when they already know exactly what guns people are getting and how many.
03:03:41.000Through the FBI NICS, it's about saying we do things outside Congress as Obama said, we're gonna get the guns by stealth.
03:03:50.000And they're doing it, and they're testing, and they will.
03:03:53.000They've announced they're going to announce an executive order And the gun grabbers have bragged it's going to be a no-gun-buy list, just like the no-fly list that the Chief of Staff, Emanuel, said they would do!
03:04:08.000And they're terrorists that ship the guns into Mexico that have killed three border patrol and five cops, at least, and countless citizens, to then blame it on the Second Amendment, and even when they get caught, they go ahead with it, Bob!
03:04:39.000I want to get more into the economy, but finish up with this ATF on the other side.
03:04:42.000The ATF, without a law, is going in and muscling and threatening gun dealers to do things they tell them.
03:04:51.000And you got a mafia gun-grabbing creature, Obama, telling them to do it.
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03:08:51.000It's normal when you've studied history, when the government is announcing, yeah, we're going to start censoring the internet anytime we want.
03:08:57.000Yeah, we're going to make ISP store all the data on you and give it to us without warrants.
03:09:01.000That's going to the House of Representatives.
03:09:05.000We're going to go into more debt to foreign banks.
03:09:06.000Yeah, we're going to steal the pension funds.
03:09:09.000Yeah, we're going to raise the taxes and cut the services.
03:09:12.000Yeah, we're going to have the ATF ship guns into Mexico, publicly blame the Second Amendment, and then have them, outside of law, make, under a federal order, order!
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03:10:05.000Department of Justice, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, Washington, D.C., ATF.gov, Dear Federal Firearms Licensee, A license is an authorization to do something that would be illegal.
03:10:21.000To assist its efforts in investigating and combating the illegal movement of firearms along and across the southwest border, ATF is requesting licensed dealers and pawnbrokers in Arizona, California, New Mexico, and Texas to submit records, information concerning multiple sales of certain rifles.
03:10:49.000And combating the illegal movement of firearms across the southwest border, ATF is requiring, there's no law, they're just ordering you, licensed dealers and pawnbrokers in Arizona, California, New Mexico, and Texas.
03:11:01.000And if this stands, if Congress doesn't stop these criminals, who should all be in jail right now for doing this, and perjuring themselves and being caught, then the sky's the limit!
03:11:20.000Is requiring licensed dealers and pawnbrokers in Arizona, California, New Mexico, and Texas to submit records information concerning multiple sales of certain rifles.
03:11:29.000And see, they need that call to open the investigation to use that as the probable reason to come harass you at your house or business.
03:12:32.000Report anything we say, you work for us now.
03:12:34.000Or other dispositions, whenever, at one time or during any five consecutive business days, you sell or otherwise dispose of two or more semi-automatic rifles capable of accepting a detachable magazine and with a caliber greater than 22, including .223, 5.56 caliber, to an unlicensed person.
03:12:53.000You are required to report all such sales that occur on or after August.
03:12:57.000You know where the criminals get them?
03:12:58.000They break into your house to get them.
03:13:33.000You're now deputy dog of the dirty ATF.
03:13:38.000The required information must be submitted on ATF Form 3310.12, report of multiple sale or other disposition of certain rifles.
03:13:46.000No later than the close of business on the day, the multiple sale or other disposition takes place.
03:13:52.000And then they tell them in private, don't tell people we're having you do this either.
03:13:55.000It's like they told folks, sell the guns to who we're sending to get them, and don't say anything or we're going to videotape it.
03:14:01.000And it was their agent coming to get it anyways.
03:14:05.000And they have a form you gotta fill out.
03:14:07.000Be advised, in addition to the record information required by this letter, licensees remain obliged to submit reports of multiple sales of other dispositions when the licensee sells or otherwise disposes.
03:14:49.000Gun control by stealth, outside the law, and we can find the articles where they were already doing this last year, quote, ordering them.
03:14:57.000It was like ATF orders the headline, gun dealers report, you know, people buying more than one gun, I think was the headline.
03:15:07.000I mean, Bob, they can just do whatever they want under this, and this signals the implementation by stealth that Obama said to his gun grabbers, don't worry, I'm going to do this outside Congress.
03:15:17.000What should be done about this, Bob Chapman?
03:15:21.000Well, first of all, they're looking at all weapons, but particularly, I think, what they call assault weapons.
03:15:29.000That's why that 5.56mm is mentioned there.
03:15:30.000millimeters is mentioned there the the only thing you can do is go to your congressman and senator and tell them that you don't want this sort of thing to happen if It's wrong.
03:16:49.000The angle here is Obama's stealth gun control goes live.
03:16:57.000uh... gun purchasers uh... harassed or or witch hunt obama launches witch hunt against u.s.
03:17:04.000gun owners uh... you know uh... begins visiting homes of people that buy two or more uh... rifles or handguns and then just point out that they were already ordering this last year so now they've issued a letter this is total stealth and they're going into gun shops They're going into gun shows where it's mainly licensed dealers.
03:17:27.000We have private sellers who are allowed to sell, you know, the guns they've got.
03:17:31.000And the people show their ID, everything.
03:17:59.000And if you can't work it through Congress, sooner or later, someone's gonna come to one house, and they demand to go in, and someone's gonna say no, and there's gonna be a confrontation, and it's gonna be some dead ATF people.
03:18:14.000That's what is going to happen, and it's going to spread.
03:18:19.000Well, you know, I've tried to be peaceful about this, and we want to have things be peaceful, but this is what kicked off Lexington and Concord.
03:18:29.000They put up with so much abuse, but at the end of the day, they said, you're not taking my guns, Redcoats.
03:18:34.000And the Redcoats shot a bunch of people and turned them into martyrs, and it was on.
03:18:39.000And it's a good sign that a lot of ATF people are blowing the whistle now.
03:18:44.000They realize this is getting... I mean, we got a scumbag president criminal raping the country, outside of law, shipping guns to Mexico and using it to come after our guns.
03:18:54.000And it's time for the ATF agents to come out with their union and say, we're not doing this anymore.
03:19:09.000Absolutely, and we can go through Congress, and if they don't do anything, it's going to degenerate.
03:19:16.000And anybody in law enforcement will tell you that.
03:19:19.000And they certainly don't want to be on that end of it.
03:19:22.000And if I was an ATF employee, I certainly wouldn't want to be there now, because sooner or later, they're going to try to go into homes and they're going to get killed.
03:19:32.000Well, Bob, you know how many veterans there are that don't care about living and who have totally committed that they're going to go out David J. Smith for Newswatch Magazine.