Super Congress has passed the House of Representatives and now it s heading to the Senate. Pastor Chuck Baldwin joins Alex Jones to discuss the implications of the super congress and how it will impact our Constitution and our liberties. Pastor Baldwin is a pastor and presidential candidate for the Constitution Party.
00:00:32.000We're going to be live here for at least the next three hours.
00:00:38.000We knew that they were attempting to set up a super congress, a council of 13, to bypass the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Congress, and fully put us into the hands of the offshore global crime syndicate known as the New World Order.
00:00:53.000We know that Mitch McConnell had tried to just completely hand the power of the purse over to the President, bypassing Congress two weeks ago.
00:01:00.000He openly made those announcements, but people recoiled.
00:01:03.000And the President said, I can just use the 14th Amendment that was used against the states post-Civil War during Reconstruction.
00:01:10.000And every constitutional scholar out there said, this is outrageous.
00:01:14.000This is the military dictatorship of Lincoln and Ulysses S. Grant.
00:01:23.000And so instead they created a lawyer facade.
00:01:27.000But when you look at the details in plain view, it is outrageous.
00:01:32.000It is off the charts, and we're going to be breaking it down today.
00:01:36.000Pastor Chuck Baldwin, presidential candidate for the Constitution Party, of course, last round, is going to be joining us to get into a host of issues, including this, in Romans 13, how Christians are taught to submit to the tyranny of government.
00:01:47.000And how unbiblical that is, and even if you're not a Christian, the issue is, is the majority of Americans are Christians and are taught, bow down and worship government.
00:01:55.000You know, if you're in Nazi Germany, lick the boots of Hitler, it's of the Lord.
00:01:59.000It couldn't be more unbiblical and uncommon sense.
00:02:05.000But getting back to the Super Congress, it passed last night in the House, and they said they've got the votes in the next few hours.
00:02:15.000And it sets up six members of the House, six in the Senate.
00:02:18.000They're the only ones that get to vote.
00:02:19.000And then the President has a veto, so he's the 13th member.
00:02:23.000Or it's like they're his disciples and he's the new abomination that we must bow down and worship.
00:02:27.000And of course this power will be passed on to the next tyrant.
00:02:31.000They just get worse and worse because we're deeper into this tyranny and they've set the precedent to launch wars without congressional approval, carbon taxes without congressional approval, ATF putting new laws in that aren't even laws.
00:02:44.000It is, again, outrageous what we're witnessing.
00:03:09.000And so it is a criminal class combined together with a bunch of moronic freshman House members, most of them, who don't know which end is up.
00:03:35.000Ladies and gentlemen, under this agreement, if it passes the Senate, On all issues, as Harry Reid and others have said, not just taxes, not just spending, not just cuts, which is basically government itself, that's the key, the heart of it, the power to tax, power to destroy, the power to give the favors to the insiders and cut off everybody else, as we've seen with the power plants and all the rest of it, the healthcare waivers.
00:04:10.000And no amendments, and now bills cannot originate from a single House member and then be looked at and scrutinized by others who then co-sponsor it and bring it to a vote.
00:04:25.000It kills the legislative branch effectively and hands it over to a super congress, to a committee, with the president with the veto power, and it gets worse.
00:04:38.000When they bring the legislation they've packaged out of the super committee, the 12-member council with the president and the 13th leader, Soran, when the ringwraiths bring that to the House and Senate, they can vote it up or down, and then if the House or Senate doesn't vote on what they proposed, get this, get this, listen to me.
00:04:57.000I'll tell you when we come back from break.
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00:09:00.000And so they stayed up here till midnight to put that special report out.
00:09:05.000I I almost never call other talk show hosts than I know and beg them to look at the information and cover it on their shows.
00:09:13.000And I appreciate some of those talk show hosts doing that.
00:09:17.000But I almost ran off the road yesterday as I was getting news alerts at red lights, reading what was confirmed in the language of the so-called debt ceiling agreement.
00:09:35.000I knew that this had all been proposed.
00:09:38.000And I even knew that our guests yesterday had said that they had actually reviewed it all, that this was an executive coup.
00:09:46.000But by the time I got home last night and spent the entire evening until one in the morning, so from about 6.30 until one in the morning, researching it, reading the text, reading mainline CBS News Analysis, ABC, hoping that I was looking at this wrong, but also marveling that this is how republics die, not with a bang, but with a whimper.
00:10:12.000Remember three months ago, Ron Paul said, well they've launched a war in Libya and they haven't gotten congressional approval and Obama says he doesn't need it or want it.
00:10:21.000This is the last nail in the Republic's coffin if we allow this to continue, because now the sky's the limit.
00:10:45.000It's not legal for Obama to give insiders health care waivers, which give them unfair trade advantage and it's complete discrimination, but they do it.
00:10:51.000It's not legal for the EPA to put carbon taxes in against select groups that aren't insiders and give waivers to insiders, but they do it.
00:11:01.000It's not legal in Chicago for the public schools to say you can't pack your child a lunch.
00:11:08.000It's not legal and it's not even law in Oak Park, Michigan to say we're going to put you in jail for 93 days and give you a $5,000 fine for a tomato box in your yard.
00:11:20.000It's not legal for the ATF to ship close to 30,000 guns into Mexico over the last two years that's killed five cops, three Border Patrol agents, and then perjure themselves to Congress saying they didn't do it, and then to be caught doing it and shipping them all over the U.S.
00:11:39.000So, tyranny always grows slowly and incrementally, and then it starts to speed up to a gallop, and then a run, and now a mad, foaming at the mouth, 110% race.
00:11:50.000We are being overrun, and that's why they're grabbing private pension funds, public pension funds, stealing the veterans' death benefits, They're stealing the funds for their future care.
00:12:01.000They are taking everything, including the kitchen sink, and they're pulling boards out of the walls and the flooring up, and now they're pulling the superstructure down.
00:12:10.000I mean, it is like a million piranhas, and America is a big fat hog dropped in the middle of the Amazon, and a million piranhas are hitting us and hitting us hard.
00:12:21.000And I do not have words to describe the proof, the documentation, the nakedness of it.
00:12:29.000And a lot of people are sending me emails and seeing comments and getting calls.
00:13:15.000One of my pet peeves has become people going, why isn't Alex covering this or that when I've covered whatever subject it is 50 million times?
00:13:50.000Paul Joseph Watson has an article on it.
00:13:52.000Ron Paul sounds alarm on disturbing super congress.
00:13:55.000And then disturbing's like the Titanic hitting the iceberg and saying it's disturbing.
00:14:01.000And then Ron Paul goes into saying it's extraordinary new powers, undemocratic, seizing control, fast track, we can pass taxes, gun control.
00:14:57.000I'll succinctly break this down for you, and then I'll go to mainstream news saying it, with the quotes, so you understand, and I have the text of the agreement.
00:15:06.000It is a totally open-ended power grab, worse than the quote debt deal, leaving an open window per week of 800 plus billion a week that the private Federal Reserve could run up on America's credit card in October 3rd, 2008.
00:15:36.000This is a buy-off for a systematic corporate takeover of America.
00:15:40.000It's not coming like the Soviet Russians or Hitler or the Chi-Coms.
00:15:44.000It's not coming with tanks and airborne troops coming down like Red Dawn.
00:15:48.000It's all done by oily criminals who have, for decades, taken over every position of power in the federal government and in the bureaucracies and in most of the states.
00:16:01.000And they, under the Presidential Decision Directives, under the John Warner Defense Authorization Act that Bush started and Obama cemented, they say, we don't need to hear from 50 governors.
00:16:10.000We've appointed 10 that speak for the states.
00:16:12.000We don't need to hear from your local rural people.
00:16:14.000We've set up a rural council under the Department of Defense and Homeland Security.
00:16:21.000This is a total martial law takeover, incrementally.
00:16:25.000But now we're getting up to flashpoint.
00:16:28.000They've been building all this up, growing their tentacles, infiltrating everything, doing it all in plain view, so mostly unconscious people, bureaucrats, cops, military, general public, city councils.
00:16:39.000This is all done very calmly, very straight faced.
00:16:43.000I mean, it's almost like Harry Reid and Boehner and Obama came out and calmly said, by the way, the temperature today will be 102 here in D.C.
00:16:52.000and there's going to be a meeting down at the park later.
00:16:56.000We're going to be handing out some free popsicles and talking about bicycle safety.
00:17:00.000And by the way, a giant 10 mile wide spacecraft just landed a mile away and there's green aliens running around.
00:17:22.000It blows me, we have all these experts on, all these economists, all these historians, and most of the time, as my staff's pointed this out, and others, I know more than they do.
00:17:30.000I don't think of myself as that smart, but I guess I do spend 15, 16, 17, 18 hours a day, and lose sleep because I'm so obsessed with reality, studying everything, so I can tie everything together, and it's just, but it's not even hard!
00:17:43.000They have set up something in 235 years that's never existed.
00:17:49.000We're six members of the House, six members of the Senate, and the President, with a veto power over it.
00:17:57.000Bills don't originate from members of the House anymore.
00:17:59.000Anybody can introduce a bill, and then get co-sponsors and have it debated, and for six months it's in committee and looked at from every angle.
00:18:50.000They can't have the rest of the Congress having the power to vote and speak up and the power to introduce bills because they know the people are going to get more and more awake and angry.
00:19:00.000So you've got this 13-member board with the president sitting in it.
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00:24:45.000Well, they have people on television telling us that that's the case.
00:24:48.000And that international law trumps our law.
00:24:51.000And that the UN says we can go to war, so we can go to war, we don't need a Congress.
00:24:55.000That's what's happening, and it's called the overthrow of our political system.
00:24:59.000But they call it a committee, or a super-Congress.
00:25:03.000No, if they vote to create a committee that will then try to organize the different bills that are still voted on, and then that committee comes forward with a final bill, that's what a committee is.
00:25:16.000A committee is not six in the House, six in the Senate, Where they originate the legislation.
00:25:26.000That's not how legislation is originated.
00:25:27.000This is a whole new form of government.
00:25:53.000In fact, let me just go through these.
00:25:56.000So, this is happening right out in the face of everyone.
00:26:04.000This is the equivalent of July 4th, but a bad July 4th.
00:26:10.000If it passes today, it's passed the House, August 2nd will be known as the date that a disgusting 13-member Dictatorship was created, and the President has the veto power, so he's the dictator, and he has these 12 wicked generals, and because they sit there and say it in real boring terms, and look down and fidget, and talk about how it's a victory for America, and we averted collapse, that's why they built it up.
00:26:37.000We're gonna collapse if we don't get this agreement, this agreement.
00:26:39.000Made it all about debt and cuts, and what are we gonna cut?
00:27:30.000They don't come out and say, hey, we're crooks, we're taking over.
00:27:33.000They come out and say, well, we've got a very dry, convoluted, and both sides compromised, and both sides aren't happy, but this will avert a collapse, and we're gonna work on it now, and the cuts aren't even real, and it's all, that part's all a scam.
00:28:07.000Why do you think Obama did something no president's ever done and said, I don't need a law, I'll just order the ATF to put new laws and new regulations in over gun dealers and start harassing gun owners?
00:29:05.000The committee could overhaul the tax code, which they're announcing they're going to increase taxes, or find savings and benefit programs like Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.
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00:33:01.000Ladies and gentlemen, we've seen the president two weeks we've seen the president two weeks ago, couldn't get the bill passed.
00:33:21.000We put out a special video, Obama launches gun grab, showing Congress months ago saying, we're going to pass a bill, where when you sell two or more rifles, that the form has to be filled out.
00:33:37.000A lengthy form on the person and sent to the ATF, even though they already have the National Gun Tracking Center, they already have the instant check, you already have your background check runs of the FBI, they already write down handgun, rifle, shotgun, they already know.
00:33:51.000It's about setting the precedent outside of law to just say, we say do this, now jump.
00:33:59.000We pick these four states and say that you have to do this.
00:34:05.000And I talked to two different Austin gun dealers and to someone in my office.
00:34:11.000And one of them talked to the ATF, one of the gun dealers.
00:34:16.000We put a special report out on it, as you know, yesterday.
00:34:20.000And the gun owner, the gun shop owner, called the ATF agent he knows, Daniel Jones here in Austin, the guy that runs the little sting operations against the gun shows to shut them down using illegal aliens.
00:34:33.000And He told them, this is weeks before they got the letter, he said, don't worry, that bill didn't pass, so we're not going to implement something that isn't law.
00:35:50.000And the Senate for an up or down vote, and then if they don't agree to what they're presented, then the Super Congress goes ahead and decides what to cut.
00:35:58.000I read you that from CBS News, the last segment.
00:36:02.000Article titled, A Summary of the Debt Ceiling Compromise.
00:36:04.000And by the way, the Senate just passed it.
00:36:06.000I mean, I am feeling sick at my stomach.
00:36:09.000Super Congress, here's another report, Super Congress Debt Ceiling Negotiations Aim to Create New Legislative Body.
00:36:20.000This is not debated, and yes, the Senate just voted two minutes ago, they've passed it.
00:36:25.000Incredible treason, we'll give you the vote count as soon as we get it.
00:36:29.000Larry Pratt of Gunners of America is our guest, and he of course put out a legislative alert saying Congress should decide whether Super Congress can impose gun control.
00:36:37.000And the way it reads, and I've got the latest text, I've got the Senate text, read it an hour before I got on air.
00:36:44.000It has language in it, and here's Harry Reid, quoted in the Associated Press, the joint committee There are no constraints, Reid said on the Senate floor.
00:36:53.000They can look at any problem we have in government, any problem, it has an ability to look at everything.
00:36:59.000The power to tax, cut, regulations, ladies and gentlemen, this is a Council of 13.
00:38:04.000This is kind of like the council in Plato.
00:38:08.000Where they go out behind the bulrushes and decide in secret what's going to be done and then everybody else just kind of has to lump it.
00:38:17.000When this super Congress comes forth with some nutty idea, which could easily have gun control along with tax increases, it goes to the President.
00:38:27.000It would take 34 votes to sustain what all is going on.
00:38:35.000They've really set it up so you almost can't stop blessed thing.
00:38:40.000We need to vote against so many people starting in the primaries next year.
00:39:18.000But if we allow a super Congress to be set, and they kind of blandly go along and train us to accept it, they can start shutting off more and more true power of the House and Senate, and that's what this does.
00:39:31.000Have you ever seen anything like this, Larry?
00:39:33.000That's why the first act of the next Congress, hopefully, is going to be to repeal this horrible piece of legislation which threatens everybody's agenda.
00:39:42.000Not just gun owners, but they can do terrible things to property owners, to taxpayers, businesses.
00:40:01.000And as you said, the Council of 13, really, with the President thrown in for bad measure.
00:40:07.000So, it's just an extraordinary thing, and there were some, I think some fairly Well-intended people that just got flummoxed, but there were some that knew exactly what they're doing, and I would include in that John Boehner and the Senate Minority Leader, Mr. McConnell, and of course, Harry Reid knew very well what he was doing.
00:40:31.000Oh yeah, Mitch McConnell two weeks ago proposed just giving the power of the purse to Obama.
00:41:23.000It's like, it's like the Easter Bunny.
00:41:25.000Well, Larry Pratt, I mean, listen, this has all been done by design.
00:41:29.000We have the 10 governors now, speaking for the states, the Governor's Council, we have the Rural Affairs, run by the Defense Department, and Homeland Security.
00:41:38.000You heard me earlier, as I intro'd you, we have the ATF coming out and saying, well, we're just going to order you to do things because we couldn't get this law passed.
00:41:47.000And they actually call them demand letters.
00:41:50.000We're demanding that you give us the information.
00:42:02.000I've never seen such a bum rush of tyranny.
00:42:05.000On every front, they're just doing whatever they want.
00:42:08.000I think they really are going for dictatorship, and I don't mean a dictatorship of Obama.
00:42:12.000He'll leave, probably, but a dictatorship of the bureaucracy and the special interests.
00:42:18.000Have you ever seen anything this off the chart?
00:42:21.000Well, like that family that, I guess it was actually the kid that was raising a lot of bunnies, and they faced a monster fine from the Department of Agriculture because they didn't have the department's permission.
00:42:32.000There shouldn't be a Department of Agriculture!
00:43:41.000This is a larger version of courtside where the police chief He fires the mayor when he can't and fires 80% of the cops and they don't go along with it.
00:43:52.000This is a microcosm of these men up there transferring more power to themselves with Obama.
00:44:01.000And the White House is pleased as punch.
00:44:03.000Larry, we're seeing an acceleration here.
00:45:15.000How did we end up with a vote with the majority of the Republicans here Voting for this, it was a majority of Republicans, I think I'm looking for the vote count here, I'll pull up in a minute, who went for this.
00:45:32.000Yeah, it was only about 69 that opposed it.
00:45:35.000And since there's what, 240, give or take, Republicans, that means a humongous number went for it.
00:45:43.000And a pretty substantial part of the Dems went for it as well.
00:45:47.000And the ones that didn't were believing their own left-wing propaganda that somehow they were getting thrashed.
00:45:54.000Well, they'll take a deep breath one of these days and realize, hey, we just pulled off a coup d'etat.
00:46:04.000Bush with the banker bailout, Obama continues it.
00:46:07.000I mean, they just continue one where the other one left off.
00:46:11.000They're part of the ruling class, and yeah, there's a Republican group of the ruling class and a Democrat part.
00:46:17.000And there are some differences, but by and large, except for some of the newbies, and people who have been around for a while like Bachman and Steve King, you only got about 65 or so members of the House of Representatives that have any idea what a republic means, what a vote needs to look like if it's going to be a constitutional vote.
00:46:39.000And the rest of the 435 members of that Congress apparently don't have a clue.
00:46:45.000We're talking about Well, there would be a few senators in there too.
00:46:48.000Maybe less than 20 percent and all the rest of some 80 percent are clueless.
00:46:54.000They think they can do whatever they want.
00:46:56.000Well, I think we need to have some political reprisals on these people.
00:47:01.000I mean, we need to be talking about see you in November.
00:47:05.000Well, I agree and I'm here to tell you anyone that voted for this is either an absolute criminal traitor or Doesn't know how to boil water, doesn't know how to tie their shoelaces.
00:47:16.000And so the 174 Republicans that voted for this absolutely must be removed.
00:47:21.000The 95 Democrats absolutely must be removed.
00:47:25.000The vote, 174 Republicans, 95 Democrats, for anybody.
00:47:28.000And it was mainly Tea Party people that voted against it on the Republican side.
00:47:34.000And we have a New York Times editorial today, and I'm going to read it later, that actually says the Tea Party are terrorists, they're the new terrorists, go after them.
00:47:43.000Alex, that's serious, because when we start seeing language like that used, what is the proper thing to do to a terrorist?
00:48:02.000They are particularizing, personalizing, and marginalizing So that the enemy is really an enemy, and he needs to be liquidated, exterminated, just like dictators have done everywhere.
00:48:16.000They're selling the idea in the New York Times, and I'm going to read the quote here in a moment, that anybody who actually wants to cut government ought at the Federal Reserve as a terrorist.
00:48:33.000And here's the quote, alas at the Tea Party.
00:48:35.000It is so lacking in any aspiration for American greatness, oh yeah, so dominated by the narrowest visions of our country and so ignorant of the fact that it was not tax cuts that made America great, oh really, that's what it was fought over, but our unique public-private partnerships, oh!
00:49:13.000Debt bill passes Senate, headed to Obama.
00:49:17.000Unsure of AAA USA credit rating will suffer from the spectacle.
00:49:21.000So the idea is, anybody that doesn't want to increase taxes and go deeper into debt, you're the ones hurting America, not the people that did this, Larry.
00:49:30.000In a sense, I guess we are terrorists.
00:49:32.000By that very article that you were reading, you can tell he is terrorized.
00:49:37.000It terrorizes the statists to think that we might take some of their power away and put them into the constitutional box they were intended to stay within.
00:50:25.000Yes, and I think we're going to stay angry.
00:50:28.000I think it was not just the town halls that got us to a point where we had to deal with our elected officials, but Wisconsin, I think, was something that stirred the whole country.
00:50:39.000This thing now, I believe, is going to continue our agitation.
00:50:46.000I want to do one more segment on the raft of anti-gun legislation that is waiting that now can pass without amendment or without filibuster.
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00:54:20.000A new form of government is now in place in the United States.
00:54:24.000And it's been done in a little lawyerly packaged way to look nonchalant like it's no big deal.
00:54:30.000Camouflaging how deadly dangerous this Trojan horse is.
00:54:34.000And now the President is saying that this is just the first step.
00:54:38.000And it's set to give a speech, and they've cheered in the House, trillions more in debt, the dollar began plunging again, and gold exploded to an all-time new super high of $1,642.70 an ounce.
00:54:54.000Now, Larry Pratt, in the last four or five minutes, I want to encourage folks to sign up for your legislative updates.
00:54:59.000I was driving home and Six o'clock last night and literally almost ran off the road.
00:55:03.000I was actually at a red light reading it, but then did get upset driving home and actually shot a video while I was driving and uploaded it to YouTube.
00:55:12.000When I read your alert, called the office, had them check.
00:55:15.000Folks can sign up for the free legislative alerts at gunowners.org or, God forbid, get a membership and actually support the only real no-compromise Second Amendment group.
00:55:24.000But continuing, what are the new anti-gun pieces of legislation that folks should know about that now can't be amended or filibustered?
00:55:33.000Well, they've been talking a lot about putting people that have been on these no-fly lists, terrorist watch lists, people that haven't been adjudicated of anything.
00:57:14.000And they continued to use it even after members of Congress explained Many times, no, we don't default.
00:57:21.000We do bring in 60% of what we're spending, and that's more than enough to pay for this stupid interest that we keep racking up with the other 40%.
00:57:31.000They would not refrain from using the word.
00:57:35.000And they stampeded, I think, a lot of the members of the Congress into this.
00:57:50.000It's just over the top what these folks have done.
00:57:53.000They're going to be going home for August recess.
00:57:57.000We need to go and very politely, sternly, lecture them that they are traitors, they have violated the Constitution, if they did vote for it, now there were some, be careful, don't go back to the ones that voted right.
00:58:11.000Tell them that what they have done is to transform the structure of American government, and unless we undo what they've done, America is never going to be the same.
00:58:23.000Larry Pratt will continue to check in with you at gunowners.org.
00:58:26.000Thank you so much for spending time with us.
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01:00:16.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:00:22.000We're going to take your phone calls ahead of former presidential candidate for the Constitution Party and great patriot Chuck Baldwin joining us and continue with calls towards the end of the broadcast and with Chuck.
01:00:33.000A toll-free number to join us on this whole Super Congress Committee of 13, Council of Satan situation.
01:01:03.000Reid says the rise of the Tea Party very, very disconcerting.
01:01:06.000Biden, they have acted like terrorists.
01:01:10.000And then I have that New York Times editorial where they say the Tea Party are terrorists.
01:01:15.000And they mean, not Mitch McConnell saying he leads the Tea Party, who came up with the Super Congress idea, and who plays politics saying the Tea Party won.
01:01:25.000If you're for the principles of the real, original Ron Paul Tea Party, the Tea Party lost big time.
01:01:30.000And some of the Tea Party congressmen were so traitorous or so dumb, I guess because, you know, their mom and dad were brother and sisters or whatever, The issue here is, this is absolute tyranny.
01:01:44.000You just heard Larry Pratt, but that's how the spin works.
01:01:46.000I heard that on talk radio this morning.
01:01:48.000Yeah, Tea Party made them compromise, we're conservatives, we're winning!
01:01:52.000I mean, you have got to stop being complete idiots.
01:01:55.000You people are about as dumb as Obama supporters.
01:01:58.000I tell you, I mean, you mainline Republicans just make me want to throw up.
01:02:05.000They still know at the heart of the Tea Party is get rid of the Federal Reserve, cut taxes, get rid of corporate welfare, George Soros is a bad guy, Second Amendment's good, control our borders, national sovereignty, red, white, and blue.
01:02:18.000So even though you're silly and ignorant and dumb, you at heart are better than the communists that the bankers created to go rob everybody and then transfer the loot to them.
01:02:27.000They're like contract bank robbers, country burners.
01:02:45.000I mean, I saw them in their inter-council memos that leaked and were public, as they think we're all stupid, where they said, man, we sure need an Oklahoma City or New 9-11, but blame it on domestic groups.
01:02:57.000Remember, even Beck had to come out and admit they were getting ready to stage one.
01:03:01.000And when they blow up a federal building, folks, we need our people to always be watching, and when you see an explosion or something, go towards it and videotape everything, and we're gonna catch them with their pants down this time.
01:03:12.000We hope they don't stage the attack, and they haven't been staging as many, because every time they try, our people are on the scene.
01:03:19.000Whether it's the shooting in Norway, or the underwear bomber where we had the witnesses that he was gotten on the plane and protected for a month and a half, they said we were conspiracy theorists, and later the State Department had to confirm it.
01:03:30.000But you got the New York Times saying the Tea Party is Hezbollah and are terrorists and enemies of America and are going to destroy America.
01:03:36.000You got Reid, you got dum-dum Pelosi, you got all these crooks doing this.
01:03:45.000And you got Biden running around saying it, you got the New York Times, that's the talking point.
01:03:50.000And people are like, well, it's figurative.
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01:08:25.000ABC, CBS News, Fox News, Huffington Post, they're all reporting, just in case you're doubting this, we've also reported on it as well before they even passed it, that the Super Congress, the Council of 13, 6 House, 6 Senate, and the President, who's the veto power overlord, he's In this blasphemous 13, he's the Messiah, and they're the disciples.
01:08:49.000He's Sauron, or the Emperor, and they're his little Darth Vader's.
01:09:07.000If I'd have written a science fiction book 20 years ago, about in 2011, a council of 13 ruled and no one cared or understood how big a deal it was.
01:10:40.000See, this all much ado about nothing, about getting an agreement last minute, was about ramming this through.
01:10:46.000And again, it'll just fade off into the distance, and oh, the Council of 12, you know, with the 13th leader, the Council of 13, it said this, it did that, and it's in McClatchy newspapers, it's in all the articles, they're saying, wow, here's one, fiscal conservatives barred from super committee.
01:11:05.000So now they're debating, people are jockeying, who gets to get on the committee?
01:11:25.000And the El Presidente is set to give a speech in a moment.
01:11:28.000It'll be about the victory for America and we came together and not everybody got what they wanted.
01:11:33.000By the way, the cuts don't even exist.
01:11:36.000Down the road, don't worry, they're going to cut your Social Security and other stuff, but they're really cutting them by inflation, which they never talk about.
01:11:42.000Or the dollar devaluation, evidenced by The dollar going down, and gold at $1,642.70.
01:12:18.000There's a stalemate in Congress right now involving our aviation industry, which has stalled airport construction projects all around the country.
01:12:27.000And put the jobs of tens of thousands of construction workers and others at risk.
01:12:33.000Of course, if he suddenly was put under a truth system, some ray beam hit him to make him tell the truth, he would say, we are transferring the last of your jobs.
01:12:44.000The General Electric Council heading up the White House is moving their x-ray division over there.
01:12:48.000We've spent tens of billions moving more industry.
01:12:50.000Upwards of four billion moving General Motors to South America, China, and Eastern Europe.
01:13:05.000I bankrupted the entire economy by design.
01:13:07.000The health care plan was written by the HMOs to rob you and lower your standard of care and take the power to make decisions away from doctors.
01:13:14.000I'm an absolute 21st century tyrant, pimp, reading off a teleprompter.
01:13:19.000But instead, America's doing good, and I'm gonna get you some jobs, yeah!
01:14:10.000And then they got that slimebag Mitch McConnell, who proposed all this garbage a couple weeks ago, said just give the power of the purse to Obama, as if he has the power to do that.
01:14:22.000Forget the other 99 senators, I say we just give it to Obama!
01:14:27.000And then he told them this was a victory for the Tea Party.
01:14:30.000Yeah, like getting a hole in your head is a victory for... I mean, this is just insane.
01:14:35.000I wanted to briefly bring Ted Anderson up, then we'll go to Marcos, or Marcus, Brian, Connie, Jenny, Ryan, and others.
01:14:44.000But Ted Anderson, just briefly, your take on all this, and then I want to tell folks about buying silver and gold.
01:14:50.000You know, three months ago they drove it down artificially.
01:14:52.000You bought a dragon's hoard of gold and silver and put it in your local bank vault.
01:14:58.000And as that sold out, as it went up, you kept buying it as much as you could get.
01:15:02.000And so you do have it when it was lower, just not like it was three months ago, in gold and silver.
01:15:06.000And it's going to keep going up, but folks can get the time machine and go back to a few months ago and still get good deals on gold and silver.
01:15:14.000And I hope people take advantage of that at the end of the day, or they can just let the globalists devalue their dollars.
01:15:19.000But, Ted, what's your view on this whole situation?
01:15:22.000Well, I mean, the way you described it, it's just so crazy, it's not even funny.
01:15:27.000I mean, now, they're at least admitting, like for instance, Bloomberg has a report out right now that says that the debt agreement puts the U.S.
01:15:35.000on the path to the end of stimulation just as the economy falters.
01:16:00.000We've handed off the power to the banking system.
01:16:03.000It's just a I had a friend who went in for minor surgery and got an infection, came out of the hospital a week later, all his organs started failing, and his dad lives in Dallas.
01:16:18.000and was racing down here and his body was paralyzed but he was awake and they were pumping him full of at the hospital's speed and uh... or whatever they said was to keep him awake just so the family could get there and they were pumping him full of adrenaline and his eyes and they would shoot him up with it and he'd open up and he couldn't talk and he was just looking at me but he was conscious and then right as his dad got there they were shooting him up with more and they were saying he's dead already and then I watched him uh...
01:16:49.000They said his arteries have all collapsed.
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01:18:17.000Plus, also, I mean, it takes 30 dimes, new ones, to buy the old constitutional dime.
01:18:23.000What are you going to do, wait until it takes 100 of them?
01:18:25.000I mean, my goodness, you need to be moving into this gold and silver, and you need to be moving now.
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01:24:46.000Hey, Mike, you sort of answered my question earlier, but I want you to elaborate on it.
01:24:51.000I had been wanting to call you for a couple of days about Obama, you know, When it comes time for election, if he'll just, you know, stay in power.
01:25:12.000I remember at the end of Clinton's second term, there was talk of him not stepping down.
01:25:17.000So, why... You know why there was always talk?
01:25:19.000Because under the executive orders, and go read them, I mean, it's mainstream news now, finally getting attention, under PDDs, they have already made themselves dictators.
01:25:28.000That's why Congress probably did this.
01:25:30.000Because in PDD 51, and the other one I read yesterday, what is it, Homeland Security Directive 20, it openly states there, in fact, I'll re-pull it and read it in the next segment, It openly states that he can take over all power of Congress for six months during any emergency, including economic.
01:26:25.000We either, as a country, grow up and go, my gosh, we got a bunch of Hitlers up there mixed with a bunch of Stalins and Maos and Fidel Castros and a little Chavez on top.
01:28:50.000The Sunshine Project got the documents with the airborne Ebola to spray on us.
01:28:55.000I mean, they actually got the documents that they've got helicopters with knockout gas and lethal weapons parked at bases everywhere to kill everybody in America.
01:29:03.000That's who runs the country for decades.
01:29:05.000Psychopathic, total murdering killers.
01:29:07.000Of course they don't think we're going to take the country back.
01:29:09.000All these folks that are going to have some armed rebellion, they now don't even need troops to fly the helicopters.
01:29:14.000They've got robot helicopters with airborne Ebola and nerve gas waiting in spray quadrants to kill everybody.
01:30:43.000And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.
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01:33:52.000Okay, Jenny, Ryan, Earl, Kathy, Chris, others, we're going to be getting to your calls while Pastor Chuck Baldwin is on with us.
01:34:00.000Of course, presidential candidate and the Constitution Party and unfortunately everything he's been warning about and pointing out is now Unfolding and it's just going to get worse from here.
01:34:11.000We've begun now the slide down the slippery slope and it's just going to get faster and faster and faster.
01:34:17.000The level of tyranny you will live under is exactly the amount you'll put up with.
01:34:21.000Even if you had angels in government and didn't restrain them, evil people would struggle to get into those positions because that's where the real power and wealth comes from in a corrupt system.
01:34:32.000And we're going to be talking about the Council of Thirteen, all of these incredible developments, your calls.
01:34:36.000The reason I got the pastor on is he's got a new book coming out dealing with something that Hitler used, something the Soviets used, the Maoists used, something now taught through the World Council of Churches, through the clergy response teams, and that is that do whatever government says.
01:34:52.000If they tell you to line children up and shoot them in the head, do it.
01:34:54.000It's of the Lord, because government is put there by God to gang-rape you.
01:37:08.000I can't think of a more perfect time to have him on because we carry his sometimes multiple weekly columns.
01:37:16.000Very well researched, great work that he does, and we're obviously going to get into his new book, but I want to get into Super Congress to target the Second Amendment, according to Larry Pratt.
01:37:25.000The bills now will originate out of the Super Congress, and there's no filibustering or amendments, and then if the Congress doesn't do, doesn't vote yes on their bill, then the Super Congress, on spending bills, implements it themselves.
01:37:38.000So it's a dictatorship over the purse between Twelve members of the House and Senate and, of course, the 13th Commander, Emperor, the Council of 13 Chairmen, the dear leader Obama.
01:37:52.000But going again to Chuck Baldwin, author, radio talk show host, pastor, columnist, and of course, He has ChuckBaldwinLive.com and he was the presidential candidate and got a lot of attention, got a lot of good work done for the Constitution Party back during the last presidential round.
01:38:13.000And he joins us now to break down all the different things that are unfolding and taking place.
01:38:18.000The new book is Romans 13, The True Meaning of Submission.
01:38:22.000Pastor, good to have you here with us.
01:38:27.000Well, so much has happened, so much is going on, but out of the gates before we get into Romans 13, give us your view and your breakdown of this new super Congress.
01:38:38.000Yeah, well, Larry Pratt does yeoman's work in keeping the American people informed on what's going on relative to 2nd Amendment issues, and I know your audience is A pretty intelligent audience because they listen to you every day and the information you share.
01:38:53.000But anything that Larry Pratt puts out, people need to pay attention to.
01:38:58.000Unlike some of the other organizations that say they're looking out for the Second Amendment, the President of America and Larry Pratt are really doing it.
01:39:06.000And whenever Larry broke this story, I just shook my head and said, you know, this is stuff that we've been talking about for a long time and now here it is in reality.
01:40:01.000Republicans and Democrats alike, they will not do what is necessary to discipline themselves to the Constitution of the United States.
01:40:10.000Uh, this is a debacle of the highest order.
01:40:14.000And, you know, everything that we've been talking about for the last several years, I was in 2A when I was, you know, running around the country trying to get the message out after Ron Paul, uh, you know, dropped out of the race.
01:40:27.000Uh, and now here we are again in 2012 and the things that we were talking about then have now come to fruition.
01:40:47.000And then there's not even a bigger fanfare because it's all technical and lawyer-y and in fine print, Chuck.
01:40:54.000To say, oh, the bills will now originate out of a council, and then you can vote it up or down, but if you don't vote for it, then we automatically do this.
01:41:43.000And the Council of Governors, the COG, all this stuff has been going on at least since the 1990s.
01:41:49.000But now what we're doing is we're seeing that this is now coming to fruition.
01:41:53.000They're taking the blueprints that they've had in place for nearly 20 years, and they are now beginning to implement it into public policy.
01:42:58.000The crimes they've committed, we could spend all day talking about that.
01:43:02.000But I think, the reason that Tim and I wrote this book, Romans 13, The True Meaning of Submission, is because the biggest reason that we are in the mess we're in today is because the pastors, Christians, and churches of America have simply refused to be the salt of the earth.
01:43:20.000And to stand up as a resistance to this kind of tyrannical ideas, philosophies, and now activities that are taking place.
01:43:30.000They've been brainwashed in the pulpits and in the seminaries of America this erroneous, fallacious interpretation of Romans 13 that the government, because it's ordained of God, means that it has the right to do whatever it wants to do and no one as a Christian should resist.
01:43:48.000This is the most foolhardy interpretation of a biblical passage that I can ever think of.
01:43:53.000The problem is, it is pervasive throughout our seminaries, our Bible colleges, our pulpits.
01:44:02.000I would venture to say that over 90% of the American churches, pastors, seminaries, and colleges are putting forth this interpretation of Roman And for those that don't know, all the World Council of Churches, and before that National Council, set up, what, a hundred years ago by the Rockefellers publicly, all they had to do was go in and give grants and lobby and take control of, what, the twenty or so big denominations.
01:44:25.000They order them what to preach, to the point of, I could play a newscast saying, it is of the Lord to go to FEMA camps, it is of the Lord to take shots, it is of the Lord to do what you're told, and go to the camp.
01:44:35.000I mean, that's a quote, I'm sure you've seen that newscast, where they actually admit this, and we got the documents, Pastor Butch Paw did years ago, and then I got more documents here on Genesis, and then people didn't believe the documents, and then later they came out and said, yeah, we've recruited over 100,000 preachers to spy on you, and to tell you to go to a FEMA camp.
01:44:57.000Yeah, well, not only that, but we know that FEMA has these, as you already mentioned, these clergy response teams that's going around training pastors that, in the event of a national emergency, quote-unquote, declared by the President, The pastors are going to be utilized by the government, namely FEMA, to encourage their congregants to turn over their firearms to the federal government.
01:45:19.000And I've had pastors, I've talked to pastors that have attended these seminars.
01:45:23.000I've seen some of the ...manuals that they have distributed.
01:45:28.000I've heard the first-hand testimony from some of these pastors.
01:45:55.000Well, let me tell you something that I've learned just recently too, Alex.
01:46:00.000You know, just a few months ago, last October, my family and I moved up here to Montana.
01:46:07.000We are now about 80 miles south of the Canadian border.
01:46:11.000I have met some people that are in the subcontracting business that are doing work right now with the federal government.
01:46:18.000That are building throughout the northern border.
01:46:22.000It's interesting, not on the southern border, but on the northern border with Canada.
01:46:27.000They are building something like, I think it's between 35 and 40 of these border patrol stations complete with munitions supplies, complete with interrogation rooms, complete with And that's to keep Americans from fleeing the tyranny.
01:46:53.000And they're building them right now as we speak all across the northern border between the United States and Canada.
01:46:59.000And that's to keep Americans from fleeing the tyranny.
01:47:02.000It's meant, again, roaches go in, they don't get out.
01:47:06.000Well, yeah, you've got to ask yourself a question.
01:47:08.000Why are they building this along the northern border and not the southern border?
01:47:11.000You know, the southern border is wide open, they're coming in through a sieve, and yet here in the northern border, where there's virtually no problem whatsoever with illegal immigration, they're building these kind of facilities throughout the entire perimeter of the northern border.
01:47:25.000And like I said, like a roach motel, the American people are meant to stay inside this thing, and that's admitted that it's come out there using Homeland Security money for the border for domestic operations and to harass citizens.
01:47:37.000Pastor, I mean, for anybody who's been in denial and thought, oh, Ron Paul, you know, Chuck Baldwin, all these people, Alex Jones, you know, they're alarmist.
01:48:12.000I know I've moved outside town and we can all feel it.
01:48:17.000Yeah, I can tell you that since we have moved here to Montana, Uh, literally scores, and I'm not exaggerating Alex, scores of families have either already moved here or are in the process of moving here.
01:48:30.000Uh, God is putting it in the hearts of people.
01:48:33.000I, I really believe that God is calling a remnant, uh, to himself and, and this, this feeling, this inner gut feeling that, uh, You know, the hammer is ready to fall and we need to be in a position to take care of our families and to be around fellow patriots and brothers, you know, who are like-minded.
01:48:56.000It's burning in the hearts of people all over America.
01:48:58.000I can tell you, I mean, I'm meeting them and talking to them every day.
01:49:01.000Did you know before you even said this, I've had a burning to move to Montana?
01:49:08.000Yeah, Montana or Wyoming, mainly Montana.
01:49:10.000I just have wanted to get out of here and get onto the top of a hill somewhere and do a daily broadcast, but that's it.
01:49:17.000Every instinct I've got is get out of the city.
01:49:23.000Oh boy, I tell you, we were feeling it for two to three years and we researched and my family and I, we researched hard, we prayed, we agonized.
01:49:33.000And we narrowed it down to the Mountain States, and then from there to Montana.
01:49:38.000Yeah, you had the big radio show, the big church, everything.
01:51:29.000We the people grow cotton, weave fabric, engrave ink, embed strips and fibers to protect from counterfeit, then carting to a private bank, having it lent back at interest, forcing taxes to service debt.
01:51:39.000Or was Jefferson correct when stating a central bank issuing the public currency is a greater menace to the liberties of the people than a standing army?
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01:54:28.000All right, Patrick Chuck Baldwin with us.
01:54:31.000Another 20, 30 minutes in the next hour.
01:54:32.000We will go to your phone calls on any of the issues you have to raise, but in this little short segment, the next one, let's get into the new book.
01:54:39.000We'll also tell folks where they can get it and get it to their pastor.
01:55:02.000But obviously, if the preachers aren't really preaching what's in the Bible and don't know that 1776 was started by the real preachers who weren't going to be slaves and the Black Brigades, as they were called, then, I mean, immediately, If they're not talking about freedom and standing up against tyranny and being the light of the world, you know you're in a wicked church.
01:55:22.000But explain how they use Romans 13 and how they twist it.
01:55:28.000Well, what they do is they teach that Romans 13 would have every Christian to submit to civil government regardless of the kind of edict that government may put forth.
01:55:44.000In other words, If government is wicked and evil, requiring men to submit to evil and wickedness, as a Christian, that we are to submit to that evil government, because Romans 13 teaches us to do so.
01:56:02.000It is a totally passive application, an erroneous application, of this wonderful passage of Scripture that actually does just the opposite.
01:56:36.000We look at the Scripture from both the Old and New Testament standpoints.
01:56:42.000And we see the consistent teaching of Scripture is just the opposite of what this current interpretation that is being used is.
01:56:52.000And as a result, this book, Romans 13, is, in my estimation, a blockbuster, because there's nothing else like it in print that I know of today, at least not recently.
01:57:04.000And we are trying to get the word out, the Christians, the churches, the pastors, And showing, giving them the scriptural, historical foundation of the true meaning of Romans Chapter 13.
01:57:15.000For folks that don't know, it was one of Hitler's favorite verses to take out of context.
01:57:23.000And for those that don't know what it says, why don't you state Romans 13 for listeners?
01:57:28.000Yeah, Romans Chapter 13 basically says that the higher powers, that we are to submit to the higher powers in verse 1.
01:57:39.000But the higher powers mentioned in verse 1 are constituted to be the highest power.
01:57:46.000And the fact of the matter is, the higher power, which is the civil power, is not the authority of God.
01:57:58.000Every single person in any position of authority or power has a jurisdiction related to that authority.
01:58:04.000He has no right to violate or transgress the parameters of the jurisdiction.
01:58:08.000It's like you have a right to defend yourself, and you have a right to defend yourself in your own home, but you don't have your right to go into somebody else's house when they attack you defend yourself.
01:58:17.000It's all common sense, jurisdictional.
01:58:21.000And the system understands this, and also they say, well, do whatever government says, it's your king.
01:58:26.000Well, in America, we the people, right?
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02:00:16.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:00:24.000We are back live, and of course, pastor and presidential and constitution party candidate, Chuck Baldwin is our guest.
02:00:33.000We've got some courtside news coming up and your phone calls in the next segment.
02:00:37.000A lot of other global and police state TSA news, but the pastor will be with us to the bottom of the hour.
02:00:44.000So again, your calls coming up in the next segment.
02:00:46.000Getting back to this new book you've got out, even if someone isn't a Christian out there and they wonder why the churches in America just support any type of illegal war, any type of torture, any type of corruption, any type of forced inoculations, It's because they become like state-run churches like in China or Soviet Russia.
02:01:04.000And so it's important to educate pastors about what's going on.
02:01:08.000Now continuing with Romans 13 and what it really states and what it's been turned into.
02:01:16.000In Romans chapter 13, we talked, we ended the, before the break, in verse 1 where it says, whatever is told be subject to the higher powers.
02:01:29.000And what they do is they translate those verses into meaning that we are to submit to government no matter how evil, no matter how wicked, no matter how unconstitutional, etc, etc.
02:01:40.000And what we've done, my son is a constitutional attorney, as you know, and he and I collaborated on this book.
02:01:47.000We call it Romans 13, The True Meaning of Submission.
02:01:51.000And we go into the depth of the Word of God in both Testaments.
02:01:54.000We look at the Scriptures, the myriad Scriptures that deal with this.
02:01:59.000There's hundreds and hundreds of Scriptures that deal with this subject.
02:02:07.000We know that the Scripture is to be interpreted in the light of other Scripture.
02:02:11.000And so we've delved into the various scriptures, we've delved into history... Well, the entire Bible is the prophets and people being killed for not submitting to corrupt government, and the king says bow down to, you know, booble-bub or whatever, and he says no, so get into the lion's den, or I'm going to crucify you upside down, or I'm going to sell you into slavery.
02:02:31.000The whole Bible is about resisting tyranny.
02:02:34.000Absolutely, and I make that statement in the course of my address that I preached a four-part series based on the book.
02:02:41.000And I made that very observation, that if you look at Biblical history, you go back to the Old Testament, even into the New, perhaps a majority, I can't say that equivocally, but perhaps a majority of the stories of the Bible I think almost, I'd say 80%.
02:03:03.000I mean, look at John the Baptist getting his head cut off.
02:03:20.000And again, that's why I say that this book is so needful.
02:03:24.000And as you noted, every tyrant in history has used Romans 13, especially if there's a Christian people involved, to try and subjugate the folks into their wishes.
02:03:56.000In my frustration as a pastor for over 35 years, in dealing with churches and preachers and Christian people, and hearing this over and over and over again, that and the 501c3 incorporation status, those two things have subjugated the church to Caesar more than any two things I can think of and that's why this book is so necessary.
02:04:21.000Well let's go over a few of the accounts in the Bible of people being evil and resisting murderers and tyrants according to the modern preachers and then let's go through actually through some of the passages because I mean there's just so many.
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02:08:42.000But imagine if I'd have told you five years ago, they'll have a council of 13 with the president in its head, and the bills will originate there, and there's no filibustering or amendments.
02:08:51.000And then if you don't vote for their recommendation, that's how it's worded, then they just implement whatever they want.
02:08:59.000It's like, you have free will as long as you do what I say.
02:09:01.000I mean, I can't believe it's that naked.
02:09:52.000Study history and they go, we are getting ourselves in order.
02:09:56.000Okay, and that's what being straight and strong is all about, and I'm not even saying I'm perfect, but I at least know, and I'm ashamed of the bad things I do unintentionally.
02:10:05.000You know, you catch yourself saying something, doing something, and if you do the things I'm talking about, you go, Alex, you're a great guy, that's no big deal.
02:10:11.000No, it is a big deal, because little things turn into big things.
02:10:16.000And, you know, they sell evil like it's a sexy devil cheerleader, you know, like the bumper sticker, and it's fun and it's cool, just like Madison Avenue advertises their Hollywood drugs.
02:10:27.000They're just advertising CIA products for you.
02:10:30.000No, it's not fun turning into a crack whore or going to prison.
02:10:35.000I love the old Pinocchio, one of the only good Disney movies out there with a good message.
02:10:39.000You know, they get them to knock out some windows, drink some beer, smoke some cigars, you know, gamble, whatever, and then they turn into donkeys and get loaded on a ship to be slaves.
02:10:51.000It's real simple, but that's how it works.
02:10:54.000They get you in peer pressure, they get you in a corrupt culture.
02:13:48.000We find the people of God being tyrannized, being subjugated by some oppressive regime, and God raising up a deliverer called a judge.
02:13:59.000Sometimes they were just a common person that They had no particular position or authority, but God put it on their heart to deliver their people from that tyranny that they were under.
02:14:13.000And so they rose up, God helped them, God gave them strength, and they delivered the people from this oppressive regime, whatever it might happen to be.
02:14:25.000You get to the New Testament, you come to Simon Peter, when the The civil government over him said, we command you not to speak and preach anymore in his name.
02:14:36.000And he said, sorry, we must obey God rather than man.
02:14:40.000And they took the cat and eye tails on the back for that.
02:15:55.000That's chuckbaldwinlive, all one word, L-I-V-E dot com.
02:16:00.000And it's very easy, you can see the links and you can click on it, order online, etc.
02:16:05.000But that's why we wrote this book, is because of this indoctrination that's going on out there, and that in conjunction with the 501c3 corporation status of churches, has completely neutered the pulpits.
02:16:17.000That's why they won't take a stand, and these people that are listening out there, And all denominations of people are listening right now.
02:16:24.000And you go to church on Sunday and you come back and you say to Alex on the phone or you say to your friends, you know, why doesn't my preacher take a stand?
02:16:38.000The 501c3 tax-exempt status, by the way, our Liberty Fellowship here in Montana is not a 501c3 fellowship.
02:16:46.000By the way, it didn't exist until the 50s.
02:16:48.000Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or the freedom of the press, on and on and on.
02:16:55.000First Amendment, they said, oh, you can still be a church that's tax-exempt outside of law because we can't put a law on you.
02:17:05.000Back to what you were talking about earlier.
02:17:08.000Or, you can be a charitable organization, and the big denominations ordered all their churches to file under it, and now the charitable organization has no free speech, when it doesn't get any clearer than the First Amendment.
02:17:19.000Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or of the press.
02:17:36.000And now I've had friends come to me from their Baptist churches, their Catholic churches, their, you know, you name it.
02:17:42.000Mormons have sent me the letters where just across the board, they are told, do not even talk about politics or your views, even at church or at any church function.
02:17:53.000I mean, they're even telling now their flocks don't have free speech.
02:18:00.000Yeah, the fear of losing their tax-exempt status is what's causing that.
02:18:06.000And Romans chapter 13, in the erroneous interpretation of that passage, is giving them the spiritual justification for it.
02:18:14.000That's the double tandem that is destroying America.
02:18:19.000If we could get the churches and the preachers to stand up for the biblical principles of liberty, the same kind of principles that Jonas Clark, he was the pastor of the church at Lexington on April 19, 1775, when the British troops came marching through to do two things.
02:18:37.000They were going to arrest John Adams, excuse me, Sam Adams, And John Hancock, and they were going to seize the cache of firearms that was stored at Concord.
02:18:48.000And when they got to Lexington, it was Pastor Jonas Clark and the congregants, the male congregants of his church, that were the Minutemen that fired the shot heard around the world, and the war for independence began in the United States.
02:19:03.000And that was the kind of spirit that the black regiment preachers all Uh, personified back at that time.
02:19:14.000I mean, if we had this erroneous, fallacious interpretation of Romans 13 in the colonies, like we have today in America, we would still be a crown colony of Great Britain.
02:19:25.000Well, that's why the social engineers a hundred years ago first thing targeted the takeover of the churches and the teaching of Romans 13.
02:19:33.000I mean, they knew they had to get rid of real Christianity in this country, and they replaced it with all these gold, little shiny glitter bug people in, you know, fancy outfits with pink wigs on, acting like clowns on purpose.
02:19:49.000I mean, that is all by design, ladies and gentlemen.
02:19:52.000It was the Christians that kicked King George back to England.
02:19:56.000We'll be right back with Chuck Baldwin.
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02:26:56.000It's particularly white males and Christians.
02:27:00.000And we've got all these White House memos about how great a terror attack would be to help them.
02:27:05.000We have Joe Biden saying the Tea Partiers are terrorists.
02:27:08.000They're really trial ballooning coming after people that understand that they are the criminals.
02:27:14.000Yeah, well I got a little taste of that in 2008, Alex, whenever the MIAC report came out in the state of Missouri.
02:27:20.000identified myself and Ron Paul and Bob Barr by name and of course you were you were on top of all that we you talked you broke the story on that one and that thing became a major debacle an embarrassment for the law enforcement officials in the state of Missouri that later rescinded the report and dismissed the man that initiated it but the damage was done and And ever since then, that has been continuing.
02:27:46.000The Department of Homeland Security, through their fusion centers, continues to put out this kind of disinformation.
02:27:55.000I was about to say, MIAC was just a regurgitated ADL federal report.
02:28:06.000I promise you, everywhere you go to speak, everywhere I go to speak, Uh, and there is a report that appears in the computers of the local and county law enforcement officers alerting them to the fact that we are there identifying us as extremists, etc.
02:28:23.000And I'm not just saying that by hearsay.
02:28:25.000I actually saw a police computer report one time when I invited Dr. Greg Dixon to come and speak to my church.
02:28:32.000A great man of God, the former pastor of Indianapolis Baptist Temple in Indianapolis, Indiana, that was seized by the IRS, the only church in America to do so.
02:28:41.000And whenever he came to speak, the deputy sheriff let me see the computer in his car, alerting him to Dr. Dixon's presence in my church.
02:28:51.000Now that came from DHS through the Fusion Center into the local and county law school.
02:28:56.000That's who they're watching when they get the Christmas Day underwear bomber.
02:28:59.000The government admits they got him on the plane, all staged.
02:29:02.000Amarillo Lockheed hanging out secretly at the Pentagon, Fox News.
02:29:05.000But I got sent a secret report from the Army that at my events for In the Fed and Ron Paul's, they have Army there.
02:29:13.000And it says, don't let them know you're Army.
02:29:17.000I mean, they're telling the military that if you come to an In the Fed rally and we find out they're military, we're going to kill them, Pastor, like we're vampires or something.
02:31:38.000And the Congress is saying, who do we make the checkout to? - Today, it seems like nobody does care.
02:31:43.000And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.
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02:33:11.000You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.
02:33:13.000Okay, I'm going to go quicker through your calls and recap some of the incredible news from earlier and some of the news we haven't gotten to in a little bit on Quartz's side.
02:33:31.000But I wanted Chuck Baldwin to finish plugging the name of his book, Where You Get It.
02:33:36.000And again, it's just like we had Sheriff...
02:33:39.000Richard Mack in here last week and we're like, go to his website, get his book.
02:33:44.000I've got him here because I believe in it.
02:33:46.000If we go wake up our sheriffs about the Constitution, wake up the pastors about their true role in history, if we go and educate our city councils, our legislatures about the Constitution, what do the globalists do?
02:34:03.000I mean, I knew about this decades ago, but now I've learned they've more than tripled the number of Federal Reserve paid speakers who will be heads of city, governments, corporate leaders.
02:34:16.000They're paid to go speak to high school classes.
02:34:21.000They're paid to go to the Rotary Club.
02:34:24.000And they will pay top lawyers, famous people, I mean they've just got a huge army of them, to go be there, to go meet them, to go slickly sell what they're doing.
02:34:35.000So you're not going to beat the New World Order by yourself, I'm not either, but It's all of us out there waking people up everywhere.
02:34:44.000I call it evangelizing for liberty and freedom.
02:34:47.000Because believe me, the tyrants are out there selling their corruption.
02:34:50.000So again, give folks your website and the name of the book so folks can get it, Pastor.
02:36:12.000That it is an obligation of Christian people to resist evil government.
02:36:17.000But Pastor, as you know, this is a chicken or egg situation.
02:36:20.000If you've really got God in your heart, you're not going to be able to control yourself.
02:36:25.000You're going to be drawn towards confronting bullies and scum.
02:36:29.000Uh, and I think that's the issue, so I think the book should be gotten out to pastors, because maybe they're ignorant, and it will certainly wake some up.
02:36:37.000If your pastor reads it, and then argues with you about it, because I've read the Bible, I've studied history, this is common sense, it's a no-brainer.
02:36:45.000But if they read this very well-written, well-researched historical document, And they still don't listen, then you need to find a better church.
02:36:54.000And I think your book should be really a litmus test for churches.
02:36:57.000What do you say to that, Pastor Baldwin?
02:37:18.000And, you know, and they have done that very thing.
02:37:20.000Now I'm looking for a church that will preach the truth relative to this vitally important subject.
02:37:27.000And I know people all over America that are doing that, so I think that is exactly... If we don't start voting with our feet, We Christians, if we don't start voting with our feet and getting out of these churches that are bringing us into bondage, spiritually, politically, ethically, and every other way, and start finding true men of God out there, even if the church is a small little church with only 30 or 40 people in it, so what?
02:37:52.000Be in a church where the truth is being preached, and God will bless your family, and more than that, God will bless our nation.
02:38:30.000I've listened to you for a while and I'm an admirer of Chuck Baldwin.
02:38:34.000I followed him on the internet for a while.
02:38:36.000Lost track, though, over the last year.
02:38:42.000However, I guess this is a question I have directed to Chuck.
02:38:49.000I know your son's a constitutional lawyer, and the way I read the Constitution, there It's supposed to act upon the legislation that Congress passes.
02:39:04.000I know they've been out of control as well as every other branch, but is your son being a constitutional lawyer?
02:39:12.000I am asking, I suppose, with this latest legislation that has been enacted, which strips Congress of its power to introduce financial And if they don't vote for what the super committee gives them, then the super committee can do whatever they want.
02:40:00.000And Tim's very involved in these types of things.
02:40:02.000And of course, this one here is fraught with unconstitutionality.
02:40:07.000And I would like to think that there's going to be several constitutional attorneys and scholars that are going to come forth and fight this.
02:40:24.000Well, I am just asking, as a citizen who called every body that I knew yesterday and also sent emails, called Congressmen's office and told them to vote no, is there anything else, as citizens, can we enact a class action suit against them?
02:40:44.000Well, anything will help, because even if you don't win it, it draws attention to it.
02:40:48.000I'm telling you, resistance is victory.
02:42:06.000I mean, we want to get it out, and we want people to get the message, and we really believe that the Christian and the churches is It's where the real power is in this country.
02:42:20.000We the people are the government and we are the power in this country.
02:42:25.000And if you can get the pastors and the Christians to understand their obligation and their duties under God.
02:42:30.000And I think of that scripture verse where Jesus said, if the salt has lost its savor, it sends forth good for nothing but to be trodden under the foot of men and cast out.
02:42:44.000And it's being cast out and trodden under the foot of tyranny.
02:42:47.000And Romans 13 and the misinterpretation of it is one of the biggest reasons why this book is a major, major breakthrough, I think, in helping people to have the information, scripturally, historically, at their fingertips to know how to deal with that.
02:43:02.000And again, if they'll go to ChuckBaldwinLive.com, all one word, ChuckBaldwinLive.com, they can order that book.
02:43:15.000It is important to get those type of materials out to people.
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02:43:31.000I want to go back to your calls when the phone system comes back up, for those that were holding.
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02:43:50.000But the Courtside Council has drawn state scrutiny.
02:43:56.000The Attorney General says that the videos they've seen that it does look like they're having illegal meetings and doing illegal things.
02:44:02.000And now they're reviewing other videos of police chasing people with video cameras on the streets and trying to arrest them and arresting political opponents and the state police.
02:44:11.000So, I mean, there's no doubt this is official oppression from what I've seen and that there needs to be, you know, the state police coming in and arresting these people.
02:44:25.000Things are going to get a lot uglier before that happens because the system does not want to send a message that governments can't do whatever they want.
02:44:33.000They kind of like the idea of a police chief and the city council firing the mayor and the police.
02:44:39.000They kind of like the idea of people not having free speech.
02:44:42.000They kind of like the idea of secret meetings and committees of 13.
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02:54:39.000I really appreciate what you're doing.
02:54:42.000You really inspired me to go out and do something after figuring out, you know, everything that's going on out here.
02:54:48.000But my question is, you know, I'm out there protesting and I feel like I'm targeting you, the immediate target of, you know, this police state tyranny and I'm out in front of the police station and You know, I'm calling them Nazi thugs, and I'm equating them with the TSA, and, you know, they all been violating our rights all on the streets and everything for a long time.
02:55:11.000And I still have people that come up to me, I believe in God, you know, and I believe in what the pastor was saying, and I feel that spirit of rebellion in my heart, and it drives me to go out there and do something.
02:55:23.000And I just wanted to know, like, you know, I talked to the Cuyahoga County sheriffs and Cleveland police, and it just seems like they really don't care.
02:55:31.000You know, and I've called my council members, and I've called the state house and everything, and you just get the same filibuster.
02:55:39.000And again, when the police run warrantless checkpoints, when they, I've seen the video in Ohio, threatened to blow the guy's head off, because he's a concealed carry guy, and they pull him over and he says, officer, I have something to tell you.
02:57:31.000I don't want nobody pointing a finger at us and saying we started anything.
02:57:35.000Well, look, at the end of the day, what's gonna happen is gonna happen.
02:57:38.000We just wake up as many people as you can...
02:57:42.000Realize that the system knows that they've been evil, so they're trying to stonewall us, real arrogant, but in the end they're going to fall like dominoes, and they're already falling, and if you feel alone, that's because most people are cowards and don't want to tell you what they really think.
02:57:58.000Congress doesn't have a 9% approval rating nationwide because people are completely asleep.
02:58:03.000And I hear you, V-Man, and I appreciate your call.
02:58:07.000I'd love to get to more calls, but the main transmission is over.
02:58:13.000Coming up in rebroadcast on the internet streams at InfoWars.com.
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02:58:26.000And of course it's all archived at PrisonPlanet.tv.
02:58:29.000I covered the incredible Council of Supreme 13, a new form of government in the Republic.
02:58:35.000The death of the Republic if we let this go through and be continued.
03:00:47.000They've lovingly maneuvered us into the iceberg patch to do just that.
03:00:51.000Representative Paul introduces bill to cancel $1.6 trillion in debt held by Federal Reserve.
03:00:58.000I saw two mainstream news articles today about the hundreds of billions in gold the Federal Reserve's secretly sitting on top of, and calls to take that.
03:01:07.000Also, Super Congress, the final nail in the coffin of representative democracy and freedom, as we know it.
03:01:12.000This is all up on PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com.
03:02:44.000And people really need to call Midas Resources today and buy gold and silver with the radio specials they've got because it just keeps going up and up and up.
03:02:54.000But you're buying gold he bought when it was lower as it goes up, so he can still sell it to you at a lower price.
03:03:01.000But then he runs out, but by then it's gone up even more, so it doesn't matter.
03:03:04.000He's got more gold at the old lower price.
03:03:07.000But Ted Anderson, what do you make of the Senate passing the tyranny bill?
03:03:11.000Well, you know, Alex, it's just like anything else.
03:03:14.000I mean, what they're doing is they're selling our future away, and our children's future away, and giving up our liberty and our freedom in the process.
03:03:21.000I mean, it's quite obvious by now that the government is tied by the hip to the banking system, because who do you think we bailed out when we were having trouble?
03:03:32.000I mean, when President Bush was getting out of office, and he had Paulson, asking for money from New York City banks, they got their money.
03:03:45.000And that's where all this TARP money went to, and all the bailouts.
03:03:48.000I mean, the way Ron Paul said it, if they gave just the money to the people that they printed to make this whole economic stimulus thing work, everybody would have ended up with about $17,000 in extra money in their pocket.
03:04:01.000Instead, it all went to these Elite, you know, people so they can bail out their businesses.
03:04:06.000They turn around and they start dishing out these really huge bonuses to their executives.
03:04:13.000And if you have any idea of what's going on in this world, if you have any question, you really should watch this American Dream video because it'll pull it all together.