Alex Jones has a jam-packed day of news and commentary from all corners of the internet, including the latest on the disappearance of a group of Navy SEALs, the S&P downgrade of the U.S. Treasuries and the credit rating of the United States, and much more!
00:00:35.000We're going to be live for at least the next three hours.
00:00:38.000A military source has given us a lot of really good information over the years that integrates in with other information we're getting from other sources.
00:00:48.000We'll be popping in for about 10, 15 minutes.
00:00:51.000At the bottom of the hour, Colonel Six, he's been a caller to the show and made a lot of predictions here that have come true.
00:00:56.000He's going to be popping in with the latest on the supposed group of SEAL Team Six people being killed a few days ago.
00:01:04.000And all of the suspicious circumstances surrounding that.
00:01:06.000Another reported helicopter crash today over in Afghanistan.
00:01:11.000Webster Griffin Tarpley will be joining us to break down the S&P downgrade of the U.S.
00:01:19.000Treasuries and the credit rating of the United States that's now triggering downgrades, of course, at the state level and local level, as we told you it would.
00:01:32.000The Federal Reserve first used us as a base of operations to give them military and political muscle globally.
00:01:39.000Now they're killing the golden goose because they're done with us.
00:01:42.000It's a scorched earth policy, bringing us deeper into financial tyranny.
00:01:47.000And then we have Nomi Prince, who, of course, herself was a high-level banker in her own right.
00:02:00.000And she's going to be joining us to go over the latest developments in the economy.
00:02:07.000And then, of course, Dr. Steve Pachinik is going to be coming on because I want to get his view on the Navy SEAL situation.
00:02:18.000I don't know what his views are going to be, just like I didn't know what his view would be when I called him up.
00:02:23.000To get him on about the Norway shooting, even though some of you disagree with his views, and I think overall I don't concur with everything he's saying.
00:02:31.000When I call up a guest to get the perspective, I don't call up and say, what's your view?
00:02:35.000And then if they don't agree with me, well, I'm just not going to have you on now.
00:02:39.000I have them on to genuinely see what they have to say, and so you can see what they have to say, and so we can debate it and discuss it.
00:02:46.000That's why sometimes you'll see divergent views and ideas here.
00:02:49.000This is not a radio show where we just continually read from some same sheet of music, kind of like a neocon radio or mainline liberal radio, where it's just the same show, day after day, same ideas, reading from the same sheet of music same ideas, reading from the same sheet of music like it's some type of mantra or a yogi chant.
00:03:11.000That's not happening here on this transmission.
00:03:14.000We've got some other good news and all the bad news.
00:03:19.000Al Gore talked to the Aspen Institute, big globalist think tank, and it was documented by press that was allowed in that he completely blew up and said that their whole fraud of global carbon taxes and the rest of it is basically destroyed.
00:03:35.000And you've got the Rasmussen poll out last week where 69% of Americans believe scientists have been paid to basically lie.
00:03:42.000Well, they've been caught lying under government funding.
00:03:47.000So very exciting news there from Mark Moreno at Climate Depot.
00:03:51.000That's up at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
00:03:54.000And I want to get Mark on later in the week if we can.
00:03:58.000To go over some of that, because it shows no matter how big these frauds are, and they're going to keep going ahead with it, but it's limping, it's on fire, it's bleeding out.
00:04:08.000But a dead elephant being dropped on you can still take you out, so they're not going to stop, but we're definitely slowing them down and having victories.
00:04:14.000We can do this on the war on terror fraud.
00:04:17.000We can do this when they tried to push torture and get us to accept torture as good.
00:04:20.000Nobody really bought it, so they had to stop that, at least on the surface.
00:04:25.000The Federal Reserve is incredibly unpopular.
00:04:28.000Over 80% and most polls want it abolished or at least audited.
00:04:33.000We're winning the info war, as Hillary Clinton had to admit with horror.
00:04:42.000There's so many other victories we're having.
00:04:44.000But let me get into the hardcore news, the economic news, straight ahead on the other side and what this downgrade means, right here on the one, the only GCN Radio Network.
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00:06:24.000The stock market has tanked more than 500 additional points today, a total of 519 on the Dow Jones Industrial Average.
00:06:34.000On news, the Federal Reserve will keep interest rates at zero or below for the next two years.
00:06:42.000There are riots and demonstrations taking place across the world, from Israel to England, and a massive increase in crime here in the United States.
00:06:51.000Joining us to break down exactly what this means and what's coming in the short and long-term future is Max Keiser of MaxKaiser.com.
00:07:00.000He is a former stock trader and, of course, the inventor of the virtual trading system, the Hollywood Stock Exchange.
00:07:07.000And he joins us because he's predicted with great precision Much of what has now unfolded.
00:07:18.000Well, my friend, break down what we're seeing in the markets right now, what's happening with Bank of America, other bank stocks, and what this signifies to have the Fed announcing that interest rates will be held where they are for the next two years.
00:07:32.000Well, you mentioned the Fed talking about keeping interest rates near zero for another two years, and talking actually about alternative ways to juice the economy, monetarily speaking, which includes such things as negative interest rates we can get to in a second.
00:07:51.000But this whole giving way, monetary easing, typically markets would go up on that news, and as you see, markets are going down on that news.
00:08:01.000This is because after 20 years, 25 years of creating this massive Ponzi scheme of cheap money and creating a GDP in America that's tied to the banking system that's tied to cheap money, finally, in the last couple of years, that's no longer working.
00:08:18.000So no matter how cheap they make the money, they hit a saturation point a couple of years ago, and it's just falling apart.
00:08:25.000So there is no amount of cheap money at this point that will stimulate the economy.
00:08:30.000It's like kicking a dead horse, literally.
00:08:34.000The model that has sustained it for 25 years is finished.
00:08:37.000And all the policymakers are doing is trying to resuscitate the economy using the same tricks they've used for 20 years, and it's not working.
00:08:46.000And as a result, you've got this enormous disconnect where the message coming out of the Federal Reserve and from Washington is that we just need more stimulus and everything will be fine around the corner, And meanwhile, the economy is crashing, unemployment is rising, social unrest is rising, you've got riots all over the world, and they don't seem to make the connection that maybe what they're doing is completely wrong.
00:09:10.000Or maybe they have made the connection, and that's why in Europe, the United States, the UK, the social engineers, as soon as they got rid of the Glass-Steagall Act back in the late 1990s, began setting up a very oppressive authoritarian police state.
00:09:23.000In the last decade, they've used the threat of the manufactured war on terror.
00:09:29.000As the excuse to build that, Max, but now they're basically admitting that the whole apparatus is for the people themselves.
00:09:37.000Do you think that the system will be successful in being able to suppress revolution?
00:09:45.000Well, okay, so you can take the point of view that this is a planned, controlled economic demolition, and the result is a return, really, to an economic model that you could call feudalism, really, because all the wealth is concentrated in the upper one-tenth of one percent, and everyone else is essentially an indentured servant, especially if they bring in these negative interest rates, which is guaranteed being an indentured servant from birth.
00:10:14.000It's easy to say that this is the agenda of the banks because it's the easiest way to make money, and they've been very successful without anybody stopping them from putting this in place.
00:10:25.000Is it going to be successful keeping down the global insurrection against banker occupation, as I call it, I think that this is the war.
00:10:47.000And now it's in London in a way that has caught everyone by surprise, really, because it's spread very, very quickly, and it's very violent, and it seems completely anarchistic.
00:11:01.000And yet, if you look at this at a more of a broader historical and global perspective, you can see that this is part and parcel of this tension that exists between the bankers who are stealing wealth on a minute-by-minute basis and getting better and better at it, and nobody's stopping them, and the rest of the world population, which is being disenfranchised, bankrupted, and thrown under the bus.
00:11:25.000And this is causing this conflict and interrupting different countries in different ways.
00:11:30.000Max, if you had to choose one geographic area in the world where more of the banksters, the oligarchs, the Ponzi scheme operators are based, wouldn't it be the City of London within London?
00:11:43.000And after you give us the answer, describe for folks what the City of London within the city is.
00:11:52.000The City of London has been the global center for the global hedge fund community because they're very lax in the regulatory environment for banks and hedge funds.
00:12:06.000The hedge funds, they also attract many of these oligarchs that are fleeing their countries.
00:12:11.000For example, the Icelandic bankers who stole billions, they took up residency in London and they give them safe harbor.
00:12:19.000As a result, in a perverse way, the real estate in London is out of reach for the average person because of the price appreciation due to the inclusion now in the The arrival of all these oligarchs from Iceland or from Russia, different territories around the world, where they have been able to totally co-opt the system, confiscate wealth.
00:12:39.000But London is definitely the center of the global arbitrage and the global money laundering business as well.
00:12:47.000And as a result, it attracts all sorts of these kleptocrats and oligarchs.
00:12:54.000And the city of London, which is their quote-unquote Wall Street...
00:12:58.000It's a principality within London, and it fits amongst these other... There's a couple of other territories in the world.
00:13:07.000is one of them, and so is the Vatican.
00:13:09.000These are three centers of... It's its own sovereign, if you will, and they have their own government, and they kind of communicate with each other.
00:13:20.000It's part of the ability of the elite to communicate with each other completely outside of any sovereign that is reportable to the public.
00:13:56.000And this is where many of the stock deals go down and where a lot of the inside information is capitalized on before becoming public because it's done completely out of view of the public.
00:14:09.000And this shadow banking system is tied into the global derivatives business, the credit default swaps, for example, that are destroying Greece, the credit default swaps that destroyed Ireland, the credit default swaps that are now destroying America.
00:14:24.000You know, when the S&P rating agency downgraded the U.S.
00:14:27.000from AAA to AA+, Suddenly there's huge volatility and there's huge trading activity from the vultures who are now swooping in with credit default swaps and effectively attacking America with the financial weapons.
00:14:41.000And this is part of the collapse of the U.S.
00:14:44.000These guys have no sovereignty of their own.
00:14:47.000They're simply marauding rogue financial bankers or financial terrorists.
00:14:57.000That was my next question, and it's these very groups, these six big mega banks that are always pushing a global corporate government that we pay our VAT taxes to.
00:15:10.000They're not content now to just buy off our politicians in Europe, England, and the United States.
00:15:16.000Now they want open world government, but at the same time, The laws of nature, the laws of history show that they can't really be above the law forever, especially if they totally decimate their host nations.
00:15:30.000I mean, even here in the U.S., some municipalities are having to lay off 60, 70 percent of their police.
00:15:37.000At a certain point, they're destroying any markets for them to even operate in.
00:15:42.000I mean, I understand they're a parasitic system feeding on the real market in the real world, but it seems that they think they can just go on forever.
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00:20:33.000What are ideas or programs Max, that you think would be a good way to extricate ourselves out of the finance oligarchs global system?
00:20:43.000I mean, one thing would obviously be to get rid of the Federal Reserve here domestically and in other countries, get rid of the same model, and go back to currency being issued as a national credit with the faith of the country behind it, not the Federal Reserve system we got in 1913.
00:21:00.000What, raise interest rates right off the 1.5 quadrillion in fiat debt garbage we've been signed on to?
00:21:19.000As you said today on the radio, they are imploding our entire world into their own control, and we are going to see more riots, looting, things that actually just hurt the general public unless we reverse this system.
00:21:31.000Well, my favorite idea is to arrest the bankers.
00:21:35.000And you have a great example of that with the 1980s with Bill Black, the regulator at the time, who arrested and prosecuted more than 1,000 bankers who went to jail as a result of the savings and loan crisis.
00:21:46.000Now, everything is in place for a repeat of that event and to put these top bankers in jail for committing massive acts of financial fraud.
00:21:55.000And I think this would clean up the system.
00:21:57.000It would send a message to the public that looting is no longer tolerated, and it would be a great step forward.
00:22:07.000Now, why doesn't the Attorney General make that step?
00:22:10.000Why doesn't Barack Obama encourage that step?
00:22:13.000Because they're totally co-opted by the system.
00:22:15.000So the entire institutional approach, whether it's trying to go after them on a legal basis, or try to reinstitute sound money, or try to support a candidate who supports sound money, like a Ron Paul, for example, I mean, those are great institutional approaches.
00:22:30.000None of them seem to be working because the institutions themselves are now completely broken and not working.
00:22:36.000So that leaves only two choices: civil disobedience or a violent reaction.
00:22:42.000Clearly, you would want a civil disobedience reaction.
00:23:25.000And, you know, that has the double action of preserving your wealth as well as exposing banks on Wall Street to the liabilities of their short sale on silver.
00:23:34.000I saw a headline today on Drug Report that talked about the fact that traders who were short gold, they sold short gold, they sold gold that they don't own.
00:23:48.000That has to happen if the system will return to any kind of integrity.
00:23:52.000And so it is that fundamental rebellion of people going back to what's valuable, gold, silver, food, land, information, and more and more just simply pulling out of the fiat system.
00:24:06.000That will then expose these financial vampires and will...
00:24:12.000Show that they've been engaging in naked shorts.
00:24:15.000Two final questions for Max Keiser of MaxKaiser.com.
00:25:06.000It's hitting new lows against Swiss franc and other currencies around the world.
00:25:10.000And obviously, if Ben Bernanke is saying that he's going to keep interest rates at 0% for an indefinite period of time...
00:25:18.000That means that there's no incentive to buy dollars at all.
00:25:21.000And Greenspan, Greenspan, don't forget on Meet the Press Sunday, Meet the Whores, said that, hey, we're not going to default, we're just going to print more money.
00:25:30.000That was a hyperinflationary Weimar Republic statement.
00:25:36.000And China immediately came out and said, we find your views irresponsible, and they're our largest creditor in the U.S., and they're actively buying gold.
00:25:48.000Really, if you think about it, the only possible way you can grow the U.S.
00:25:51.000economy, if you look at the various levers out there, what you could push, what you could pull to try to create some wealth, there's only one viable path, and that would be to debase the dollar, to try to make exports more viable in the global economy, in particular America's agricultural exports.
00:26:08.000America still does do a lot of agricultural exports.
00:26:13.000They will get more agriculture exported out of the U.S.
00:26:17.000But it'll take years to get an industrial base back, even if our currency was comparable to the Chinese currency or something like the peso.
00:26:28.000Well, as I've said on your show before, I've made the prediction that before long, the biggest industry in America will be cotton picking.
00:26:37.000And everyone should familiarize themselves with some of those old spirituals like jump down, pick a bale of cotton.
00:26:44.000But now, moving on to Bank of America.
00:26:47.000Bank of America, of course, bought into a couple of the failed lending institutions during the last crisis.
00:26:57.000And as a result, they absorb billions, hundreds of billions of bad debts and trillions in derivatives.
00:27:04.000And because there hasn't been any growth in two or three years, predictably, there hasn't been any ability to write any of that stuff off or pay any of it down.
00:27:14.000So now Bank of America is going to go down.
00:28:24.000So literally, we do see them running off with the lewd.
00:28:27.000And in a way, that's even more dangerous to see the elites running, you know, the Bushes buying all this land in Paraguay.
00:28:33.000That's even creepier to think that they know they've committed so many crimes that they're just fleeing, leaving us with the aftermath of what they've done.
00:28:44.000That's why it's good news that you're there, I'm here, so many other great people, Ron Paul, are out there talking about the real issues so that hopefully we can pick up the pieces when all this is over and move in the right direction.
00:28:57.000Perhaps the globalists will miscalculate, but I think...
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00:33:18.000My friends, I can barely contain myself right now.
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00:33:48.000Pollster, Americans are pre-revolutionary.
00:34:26.000Says Pollster Pat Goodell, who described the outcome of the poll as unprecedented.
00:34:32.000This conclusion follows Cadell's observation last November that a sea of anger is churning amongst Americans who want to take their country back, and that the nation stood on the brink of pre-revolutionary movement.
00:36:03.000She's got an article out under that title.
00:36:05.000I want to get her view on where we're going, because for my research, this is a planned implosion, but it's a black hole so giant they've created that it may suck them in with it, like Bank of America plunging in the stock right now.
00:36:19.000This could be the beginning of a major rout.
00:36:25.000Well, we've talked about this, and I continue to say we have never, since 2008, been in any kind of a recovery.
00:36:32.000This has all been going on and down, behind the scenes, and also right out in public view.
00:36:39.000We don't have a handle on all of the assets, all the toxicity, all of the debt, everything that was created by the banking system in the run-up to 2008's official crisis, and since then that is still globally dispersed and declining and and since then that is still globally dispersed and declining and degrading the global economy as we So there's a couple things going on here, and the rating agency coming in and downgrading is one aspect of many things going on.
00:37:09.000But the bottom line here is that banks created a mess.
00:37:15.000And yes, some might go down and some might have their stocks go down, but they made a whole lot of money on the run-up.
00:37:20.000They can position themselves to short or to not value the securities that are still on their books because the financial accounting standards board says they don't have to and all sorts of other tricks.
00:37:34.000By the government, by the Federal Reserve, by a whole lot of subsidies that we have no control over, we don't vote for, and that is how they continue to thrive and do what they're doing with no repercussions.
00:37:46.000We feel the repercussions, and today's mess in the Dow is just one aspect of so many repercussions that we've been feeling and will continue to feel.
00:38:37.000Today's problems, definitely, and problems that were emerging.
00:38:40.000And today's problems and today's debt, for example, the $4 trillion of extra debt that have been created in just the last two and a half years, as you rightly said, have not been created because we had to save Social Security or because we're giving too much away to workers and we're helping the labor economy and we're creating jobs.
00:38:58.000That's Obviously, clearly not what has been going on with the debt that's been created.
00:39:31.000That's not in that $3.6 trillion, right?
00:39:34.000The $3.6 trillion is just laughable, you know, This general, unaccountable behind it type of moniker for basically saying we gave a lot of stuff to the banks.
00:39:46.000We printed a lot of money to really flow what was going on.
00:39:49.000As we talked about on your show last time, the banks, for example, hold $1.6 trillion of treasury bonds that they basically got from the treasury, gave to the Fed, received interest from the Fed, doing absolutely nothing of any kind of productivity for the U.S. economy or any individual in the United States or globally.
00:40:06.000That's just one number of that $3.6 trillion.
00:40:09.000That's just $1.6 trillion of it, and it goes on.
00:40:32.000in a depressionary spiral for three years, and that this is going to deliver us, on the course we're on, into a real depression, and that they've set up this super congress to be able to do whatever they want during a crisis.
00:40:43.000What do you think about the term depression, A, and B, super congress?
00:40:48.000Well, you know, the term depression is definitely viable.
00:40:53.000And you know how back in the early part of last century, before World War I, they called the First World War the Great War.
00:41:01.000And then we have the Great Depression.
00:41:03.000And then by the time we got to World War II, the Great War became World War I and we had World War II.
00:41:09.000And in that respect, we are in Great Depression II.
00:41:12.000because we have no way out of where we're at.
00:41:17.000The fact is the hole is so deep, and it's unfortunate.
00:41:20.000It's sad, and there could have been things to have been done along the way to have mitigated the problem that were just simply ignored by Washington, by global leaders, by global central banks, because they weren't actually either recognizing or, in fact, they were sustaining the banking system, the private banking system, they were sustaining the banking system, the private banking system, that was really funneling debt into the economy, toxic debt, high-rated debt that allowed it to be dispersed,
00:41:45.000So the rating agencies, going back to what's just happened today, were definitely a part of this puzzle.
00:41:51.000They didn't rate certain bad debts, certain bad assets, AAA.
00:41:54.000They wouldn't have been dispersed and sold throughout the global economy, bringing whole cities and municipalities and pension funds down with them.
00:42:14.000municipalities, what's sustaining local towns, what's sustaining local pension funds, what's sustaining local workers isn't real, then as much as anyone can work, as much as anyone can attempt to find jobs to...
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00:47:44.000Paul Watson is a longtime reporter for Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com in the UK.
00:47:51.000We're now entering the fifth days of some of the worst rioting ever to hit the United Kingdom.
00:47:57.000And Paul has discovered some very important information.
00:48:02.000Days ago, we received reports from journalists on the ground that police were ordered to stand down.
00:48:08.000As of today, they have admitted that indeed they were ordered to stand down.
00:48:12.000And there are other reports that men posing as journalists were basically, basically offering money to youth if they too would engage in rioting.
00:48:22.000The question is, why has a green light been given at this time for this type of activity, attacking family-owned shops, burning down businesses, and even homes?
00:48:38.000Yesterday we reported that, quote, the lackluster police response with numerous reports from the public that police stood back and allowed looters to pillage both large department stores and private small businesses for hours and hours.
00:48:52.000And today that's been confirmed because sources from within Scotland Yard have confirmed to both the Daily Mail and the Times of London that police were ordered to quote, stand and observe on those first few nights of rioting as the looters, the rioters set fire to Buildings, both homes and small businesses, they were ordered to stand back and let it happen.
00:49:17.000And of course we said that this was going to be the case all along because it's routine, standard operating procedure.
00:49:24.000The authorities allow the chaos to spiral, to build, and it causes, it provokes the general public, specifically the middle class, to demand the police state measures which the government is all too keen to later give them.
00:49:40.000And that's exactly what's going to happen tomorrow with Parliament being recalled.
00:49:43.000They're going to have a debate and they're going to set the stage for a law which is going to basically criminalize public gatherings without government permission.
00:49:55.000And so to claim that this is some kind of organic political revolution against bankers is fundamentally naive.
00:50:03.000It's a mistake to embrace what are essentially a group of drunk, mindless teenagers and pretend that they're on some kind of front-line war against the establishment.
00:50:27.000They're blurring the lines so that now when anybody does have a political flash mob, or when anybody does actually go after real targets, like the banksters, then it can be demonized.
00:50:41.000where they send the army in plain clothes to spy on in-the-Fed peaceful demonstrations.
00:50:47.000And so the UK government, as you know, Paul, four years ago came out and said, as austerity measures come in, there is going to be intensified social resistance, so we've got to put a police state in place.
00:51:01.000And so now ahead of that, they're just allowing the hooligans, who are just your regular sports fans, who riot after a soccer game or riot after games in Brazil, basketball games in Los Angeles, soccer games in South Africa It's the same types all over the world, mainly the welfare class, that go out and do this as a sport and as a way to steal some loot and some goodies.
00:51:26.000And so now their activities, targeting mom and pop shops and homes, is being transposed over legitimate political debate and discussion.
00:51:36.000And the fact that they've waited four days to finally get the parliament back and do this is incredibly frightening.
00:51:42.000Well, yeah, and that's why it's completely stupid to embrace them, because then that's what we're going to be labelled with, is the supporters of these mobs.
00:51:51.000I mean, just look what they're attacking.
00:51:53.000They're not laying siege to the Houses of Parliament.
00:51:58.000They're attacking family-owned local businesses that have survived two world wars and raising them to the ground.
00:52:04.000They're attacking charity shops, cat rescue centres, hospitals that care for sick babies.
00:52:10.000And now they're killing people by running them down in their cars in Birmingham, just 20 minutes from where I live.
00:52:15.000You have the video of this young Malaysian kid lying on the street bleeding.
00:52:19.000The rioters pretend to help him up, then threaten to stab him and steal his stuff.
00:52:25.000How on earth is that, protesting against bankers?
00:52:28.000I mean, these are just opportunist thugs.
00:52:31.000And so I'm sorry, but that doesn't represent me...
00:52:34.000I don't think it represents our movement, and I think it's foolish to try and embrace it and say that it does, because later down the line, we will be discredited and blamed for all this chaos, just like the Tea Party's being blamed for the financial collapse.
00:52:58.000It's like the fire department shows up to put out your burning house, and you blame them for starting the fire.
00:53:05.000There is such a pent-up anger, though, at the corrupt system that people are hoping that this is the revolution that people are looking for.
00:53:16.000Now, Paul, there's another big issue here.
00:53:18.000You notice these riots are going on and these racial robberies and things are going on in Chicago, in New York, in the other few U.S. cities where they have a total gun ban for citizens.
00:53:29.000That's where the welfare type people go.
00:53:35.000The opportunistic criminals congregate because they know they're going to be protected and they're going to be feeding on unarmed citizenry.
00:53:43.000Look at England where you've had people who've been robbed three times in a row in their own home.
00:53:59.000So there's a real desire by the social engineers in England to leave the general law-abiding public servile and dependent on the state So the state can prey on the public and then also menace them with the zombie welfare hordes.
00:54:18.000And for people to say that because we don't embrace these looting hooligans means that we somehow support the system is asinine.
00:54:26.000I mean, try and hold more than one concept in your head at the same time.
00:54:30.000I know it's difficult for some people, but try and do it.
00:54:32.000This is not something in Britain that started as a result of the financial collapse three years ago.
00:54:39.000I mean, this is an element of British society that stretches back decades.
00:54:42.000We've always had this intimidating underclass, and it's always been used by the establishment as a tool against general society, the middle-class law-abiding people.
00:54:54.000You can talk to anyone who's lived amongst this in England, and with all due respect to Max Keiser, who, I don't know, he may live in some swanky part of Paris.
00:55:05.000I was born on a council estate in Sheffield, in a poor northern city.
00:55:10.000I went to school with some of these types of people.
00:55:12.000You know, my first property that I bought was across the road from a crack house in the poorest part of town.
00:55:18.000And this is what these mobs, these yobs, like to do.
00:55:21.000It's fun for them to go and burn things and steal things.
00:55:26.000As one person in The Guardian today described it, and he was actually involved in the riots in Liverpool back in the 80s, He said it's basically like Nintendo Wii come to life.
00:55:48.000We know the government let this happen so they could then have shoot-to-kill orders for peaceful protesters because they know the resistance to them is mounting.
00:55:56.000This is more than one little thought in our head.
00:55:59.000This is three-dimensional, four-dimensional thought.
00:56:02.000We understand that when Parliament members start calling for shooting arsonists that it's going to be used against the general public.
00:56:16.000I couldn't imagine living in England where people that are out defending their homes are being demonized right now.
00:56:23.000That's the one thing that the street thugs can't deal with and that the nanny-nanny state can't deal with is neighborhoods banding together, the baseball bats all selling out there in England, and people fighting back.
00:56:38.000and it's not even the police now that have been fighting back these crowds of miscreants, some of them as young as nine years old robbing liquor stores.
00:56:46.000It's the fact that the people are now standing up that is backing them off in some areas.
00:56:54.000And they're being demonized as some type of right-wing gang.
00:56:58.000When anybody's basic instinct is, when you've got roving bands of people, like something out of Road Warrior that we've been warning people about, you've got to stand up to them and nip it in the bud.
00:57:09.000And that should have been on day one by the police.
00:57:12.000Now, if folks were protesting the government, and the police attacked a peaceful crowd like Tiananmen Square, and then people took over the parliament, and people took over 10 Downing Street and stormed the palaces, I would say that's a legitimate rebellion.
00:57:27.000But pulling people out of cars and beating people to death and running over people is not that.
00:57:34.000And, Paul, I hope that you can sit there and defend your country from these people.
00:58:19.000We the people grow cotton, wheat fabric, engrave ink, embed strips and fibers to protect from counterfeit, then carting to a private bank, having it led back at interest, forcing taxes to service debt.
00:58:29.000Or was Jefferson correct when stating a central bank issuing the public currency is a greater menace to the liberties of the people than a standing army?
00:58:49.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:58:57.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:03.000Just to say that the people now out defending their property are not just white right-wingers.
00:59:08.000You've got Sikhs, you've got Muslims, you've got all kinds of races out there defending their property.
00:59:13.000And now the latest reports are that the police are actually moving these people away from the areas where the riots are expected to happen.
00:59:21.000I was about to say, they're telling Sikhs who are standing out front of their churches, their temples that are full of valuables, that you're not going to defend it.
00:59:31.000By the way, you shouldn't have a sword, because these guys have ceremonial swords.
00:59:37.000I believe the three people that got run over by the car defending their property were Muslims.
00:59:41.000So I want to point out here, it's so much fun to demonize Muslims all day, but it's Sikhs, it's Muslims, it's right-wing pro-Englanders that are defending law and order, while it's the liberal, trendy, welfare, whites, blacks, Asians, you name it, running around doing this.
01:00:00.000And it's disgusting, Paul, to see it confirmed that the government is trying to stop the citizens from defending themselves.
01:00:07.000If that isn't evidence of how lawless and criminal your government is, I don't know what is.
01:00:33.000They would send out... Stalin took people out of the prisons and sent them to Ukraine and other places to thuggishly do this And that's what the founders talked about, a republic where no minority can be targeted, where everyone has rights, that the mob cannot vote away, or 51% will vote to enslave the other 49%.
01:00:54.000And that's why the social engineers, the offshore banks, are always pushing democracy, because they can dumb down the population and use these hordes of dependent people to absolutely rob and destroy us.
01:01:06.000That's why I'm so against the illegal aliens.
01:01:08.000Because no matter where they come from, they get a liberal handout once they get here, they get indoctrinated, and they get turned against the Second Amendment and private property, and pretty soon the illegals that are now becoming the majority of America are going to vote to take the guns, the property, everything, and the bankers will sit offshore laughing at this.
01:01:28.000Paul, looking in England, you're ten years ahead of the United States.
01:01:34.000Yeah, we've just got to be wary of the fact that these groups of disaffected youth are going to be used as a weapon to petrify the middle class into demanding the police state that is late to use them.
01:01:44.000So try and look at it from a more sophisticated approach than saying, oh, if you don't support the rioters, then you support the establishment.
01:01:51.000You've got to be a little bit more sophisticated than that.
01:01:54.000The establishment is supporting the rioters by protecting them and giving them their liberation theology and leaving them alone and telling the vigilantes they don't have a right to defend themselves.
01:02:05.000And telling the police to stand down, which is now being revealed.
01:02:08.000That's what happened in the first three days.
01:02:10.000So we'll wait and see what Parliament says tomorrow.
01:02:13.000And undoubtedly it's going to be the start of more draconian crackdown in Great Britain.
01:02:18.000Absolutely, and we'll watch it all with you and your brother there in England, Steve Watson, in London itself.
01:02:25.000And we also have other reporters that have been popping in who have witnessed racial attacks, you name it.
01:02:30.000This is really bringing out the ugliest side of so many people, but also the best side of many others, like the Sikhs, the Muslims, and the, quote, England first, evil right-wingers that are being demonized.
01:02:42.000Paul Watson, thank you so much for joining us.
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01:05:12.000It is Wednesday, the 10th day of August 2011, and we're going to be live here for the next three hours.
01:05:23.000Well, these are the times that try men and women's souls.
01:05:29.000A great period of unrest and upheaval is now upon us as a society, as a world.
01:05:39.000We have been in the throes of a depression globally for at least three years.
01:05:44.000It is now intensifying and it's only going to get worse from here on out unless we remove the corrupt ruling class that have seized control of the world economy through fraud.
01:05:59.000Namely, through fractional reserve banking, and then the last 12 years through derivatives, which allow them to create unlimited counterfeit financial instruments.
01:06:12.000Now, it has always been the ruling class's established rule to control large cities going back thousands of years by having large different segments of the population living in welfare slums that are funded by the government.
01:06:30.000The Romans did this more than 2,000 years ago.
01:06:33.000They had a bread and also a silver allotment.
01:06:37.000And anytime that the surrounding rural gentry did not pay the high taxes or do what they were told, the welfare crowds would be released, the Roman military would stand down, and the welfare hordes would exit the city and begin robbing and looting and stealing and burning.
01:06:57.000You could then not count on the Roman Fire Department to give you any assistance, also in the city, in your burning neighborhood, if you'd not paid them large amounts of protection money.
01:07:11.000No, it was not the American Italian La Cosa Nostra that invented the threats of burning down your family clothier or grocery store or furniture store.
01:07:21.000If you did not pay them protection money, it was their Roman ancestors.
01:07:26.000And that's where Julius Caesar's family made most of their money and got into political power was running the fire department racket.
01:07:37.000Our fire departments today are not engaged in such activities, just to be clear, before the New York Times or someone else says that I'm stating that modern fire departments.
01:07:47.000I'm talking about what is Italy today and, of course, formerly the empire, the Roman Empire based in the city of Rome.
01:07:59.000Before I get into the global financial meltdown, before I get into the day four of uncontrolled riots, the British Prime Minister says they might use water cannons and batons later if the rioters don't behave themselves.
01:08:15.000This is just like in Seattle in 19... ...population of peaceful protesters.
01:09:19.000We've also seen this go on in Greece as well.
01:09:23.000Going back two years ago, their national news documented it was police rioting and starting the riots.
01:09:30.000And then we also documented that, what, three years ago, National News had to admit it later in Canada, that the Royal Mount of Police did dress up like anarchists and begin breaking and smashing and stealing so they could then have the police attack the peaceful crowds protesting the North American Union meeting.
01:09:48.000So what they've done is they've primed the pump, they have provocateur-ed the first events, and then the larger hooligan mass...
01:09:58.000...rushes in to expand the crisis, and then David Cameron's not in trouble for the News Corp hacking gate anymore and the mysterious deaths.
01:10:10.000David Cameron can move forward now with tax increases to satiate the welfare zombie mobs.
01:10:17.000This is a standard operating procedure, and I'm going to be going over it.
01:10:29.000As for the general mobs, some of it at the beginning was racially motivated.
01:10:38.000And I guess you could say in a way that's political.
01:10:41.000But from the hundreds of emails and comments I've gotten from reporters that live in the area that we've talked to on air, from Steve Watson, who lives in London, from Paul Watson, north of London, this is purely, purely
01:10:57.000In the second, third, and fourth day, groups of hooligans, the folks that like to go get drunk and get in fights at soccer games as part of their tribalism outlet, black, white, you name it, who were engaging in pure looting.
01:11:13.000In fact, I saw one report of an entire business district, shop district, burned, leveled, and looted except for a bookstore.
01:11:22.000Electronic stores, liquor stores, pawn shops, furniture stores, anything of value looted and stolen.
01:11:33.000And then you have the so-called left saying this is the beginning of the Stalinistic uprising against the bourgeoisie and then the ruling class.
01:11:52.000You have the rise of it in Los Angeles, in New York, in Chicago.
01:11:57.000You do not have the rise of it in Dallas, because if you try to pull people out of their cars in Dallas, and it's happened a few times, in these hooligan riots, you are shot dead.
01:12:09.000A police officer has citizen's arrest power.
01:12:12.000That's why citizens have citizen arrest power.
01:12:15.000Counties and cities get together and then elect a sheriff or elect a mayor who creates a police force of men and women that have citizen's arrest power.
01:12:24.000You try to pull me out of my car and beat me up or kill me or rape my wife, I'm going to kill you.
01:12:36.000And so you notice you don't have these type of things going on in Dallas, Texas.
01:12:43.000You don't have this type of stuff going on in Phoenix, Arizona.
01:12:47.000You don't have this type of stuff going on because when you start burning buildings down, that is an act of arson in action.
01:12:55.000You are committing acts that could and probably will kill people.
01:12:59.000And if I catch people trying to burn my house or my neighbor's house, I'm going to put a bead on you and I'm going to unload into you and your cohorts.
01:13:10.000The globalists want law and order to break down so they can come in after the looting rages for weeks or even months, as has been done in many other countries as part of the IMF World Bank plan that was leaked in 2002 that we've covered so much.
01:13:25.000And after it's run its course, the country's confidence is destroyed, the stocks are destroyed, the nation is in trouble, and the big offshore banks come in and take even more control.
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01:19:35.000In all of my years of studying politics worldwide and here in the U.S., I have never seen the establishment running scared like they are right now.
01:21:40.000And he turned to the TV that he was watching.
01:21:42.000He goes, look, there's Ron Paul talking in front of the ice cream stand in Iowa.
01:21:47.000It was funny because I had actually seen that myself that day live.
01:21:51.000And it was the hatred of this man who has the most conservative voting record in Congress, who is a true constitutionalist, a true libertarian.
01:22:01.000And there was this hate by this individual calling him a nut.
01:22:10.000This rhino, this guy that supports all the neocons and the wars and the Patriot Act and the police state now being used against the American people.
01:22:59.000This mantra that he cannot win, he cannot win, he cannot win.
01:23:03.000Yeah, I like Ron Paul, and most talk show hosts say, but he can't win.
01:23:07.000This idea to try to go after the public and treat you like you're weak-minded so that you'll, quote, vote for a winner so you feel like a winner.
01:23:17.000Well, we've already won because Ron Paul's running and educating people about real issues.
01:23:22.000He is the only real candidate out there, period.
01:23:25.000And his decades-long work is now coming to fruition in an archetypal challenge right as America is imploding, right as everything he talked about is happening.
01:23:38.000In most news reports, even when he won CPAC two years in a row, in front of all the big conservatives, the key victory that Ronald Reagan and others won, Fox News wouldn't report it, and then finally they reported it and dubbed in booze from another speech.
01:24:28.000We are at a crossroads, ladies and gentlemen.
01:24:31.000And don't be like Judas Iscariot, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and others.
01:24:35.000Don't wish later you wouldn't have taken that 30 pieces of silver.
01:24:38.000Rush, you said two years ago you were no longer going to carry the Republicans' water anymore, that you'd been a hack, and that they were basically corrupt and just as bad as the Democrats.
01:24:47.000But now you're flipping right back to it.
01:24:49.000You only did that to try to keep your dwindling audience that's waking up to you.
01:24:53.000You know, if you guys don't stand up for the Republic and Ron Paul, a true constitutionalist, because it's the right thing to do, you should do it because that's what's popular.
01:25:04.000You should because there's no future for this country.
01:25:07.000There is no future for a system where they laugh at Ron Paul because he wants Americans to be able to have trials, because he doesn't want Americans to be able to be killed by the government.
01:26:11.000It's time for everybody to really think about the fact that Ron Paul has never compromised and has always done what he said he would do.
01:26:20.000And that even if you don't totally agree with some of his policies, we need somebody who's bona fide, somebody who's real, somebody who can be trusted.
01:26:30.000That is a massive endorsement of Ron Paul.
01:26:34.000And it is so sickening to watch those establishment whores up there on TV attacking and the cowardly Republicans in that debate Openly pushing tyranny like it's good.
01:26:45.000And to see Ron Paul like a lion in winter standing up to those hyenas, to those jackals.
01:26:50.000I'll be covering it more on the radio and at Infowars.com.
01:26:53.000We've got key reports up there dealing with the hoax.
01:27:15.000Get out there and defend Ron Paul and expose the hoax that he can't win.
01:27:18.000I'm Alex Jones reporting for InfoWars.com. InfoWars.com.
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01:32:17.000Live from Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide, it's Alex Jones.
01:32:24.000You know, if you're watching us on PrisonPlanet.tv if you're watching us on PrisonPlanet.tv as we stream the radio show in living color, you could see
01:32:35.000You know, if you're watching us on PrisonPlanet.tv as we stream the radio show in living color, you could see the footage we're about to play in Vancouver, Canada, of people rioting and burning things when their team lost, or when people's of people rioting and burning things when their team lost, or when people's teams win, large areas in major cities of Brazil being burned, or fans in Los Angeles burning things and beating people over the or fans in Los Angeles
01:32:45.000the footage we're about to play in Vancouver, Canada, of people rioting and burning things when their team lost, or when people's teams win, large areas in major cities of Brazil being burned.
01:33:36.000And Twitter is saying that they're going to continue to leave the accounts up of people who are calling for violence, burning, and looting on Twitter.
01:33:46.000Well, of course, Twitter was used to overthrow the old dictator, Hazi Mubarak.
01:33:54.000It was used to then help put in the Muslim Brotherhood and oppress people even more.
01:34:00.000Because that's what the CIA and MI6 wanted.
01:34:04.000And now Twitter is being used over in England according to looting and robbing and burning because the government's going to use it to ram through curfews and martial law rules and to shoot people on site for politically protesting.
01:34:19.000You see, this is a more drawn-out version of what happened in 1999 when, for 24 hours, the hired...
01:34:28.000Warehoused anarchists were flown in by major foundations.
01:34:32.000I have it all on video in Police State 2.
01:34:36.000The police on tape admitting they were ordered to stand down and let the looters attack and burn in Seattle so the news could say, why don't they do something?
01:34:47.000So then the looters could pull back, move into a government building right next to the police department under police guard, flown in, And so the police could then attack old ladies who were part of the protest against the World Trade Organization.
01:35:07.000Now, that's all that's happening here.
01:35:10.000That's all that's happening here is the police stood down Sunday, they stood down Monday, they stood down Tuesday, and now David Cameron, that carbon tax-promoting, New World Order slimebag...
01:35:24.000Is saying that we might use water cannons on a 24-hour notice.
01:35:36.000They could have three days ago, off of positive IDs of thousands of these people, arrested them, put them on the news, made an example of them.
01:35:44.000But instead, they're going to let it get out of control, out of control, out of control, until finally the police start shooting people with real bullets.
01:35:54.000And then the precedent's going to be set not to shoot somebody trying to burn your house down.
01:36:01.000Not to shoot somebody trying to burn your house down.
01:36:38.000But, because the hooligans, that's all this is, is a branch of the soccer hooligans...
01:36:45.000Because they're burning down five-generation clothiers and four-generation watch shops and four-generation furniture shops because they're dragging people out of their cars at barricades and beating them up.
01:37:01.000Because that's happening, the police are standing down to let this get out of hand so the giant police state the British government has set up, the UK government has set up, can be...
01:37:11.000Drop down like a hammer vice on the public of England.
01:37:16.000And so I agree with Steve Watson from one angle.
01:37:20.000If you're just looking at this in a two-dimensional way, knee-jerk calls for army on London streets to shoot looters on sight.
01:37:30.000Well, that would mean somebody out after dark, wouldn't it?
01:37:34.000But then it goes on, the Member of Parliament said, time to get tough, bring in the Army, shoot looters and arsonists on site.
01:37:46.000And people attacking fire department people, already risking their lives, battling fires with women jumping out of it, they should be shot.
01:38:43.000You've got people living on subsistence level, handouts.
01:38:46.000You've got a middle class scared of the giant swelling underclass.
01:38:50.000And you've got the social engineers who've all got their mountain retreats outside of England, outside of Europe, outside of the U.S., sitting back and manipulating the whole thing.
01:39:00.000And I predicted it all with precision.
01:39:02.000I told you a year ago, six months ago, over and over again, find the clips where I said society's going to degenerate, the austerity's going to come in, the welfare hordes are going to riot, an expanded version of a sports riot, the middle class is going to get scared, the globalists are going to stand back, let the riots run their course, and then later...
01:39:26.000When the public is begging for total tyranny, come in and beg for it.
01:39:32.000Come in and beg for the end of Magna Carta, the end of the Bill of Rights, the end of the Constitution.
01:39:36.000And that's what has to be articulated out to everyone.
01:39:41.000Now, joining us is Steve Watson, who does a great job writing at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
01:39:47.000But I tell you, Steve, it's a good article you wrote, but if people just go with the headline, knee-jerk calls for army on London streets to shoot looters on sight, if the police would have just done their job and apprehended these, But, I mean, this is a big story we've got today.
01:40:03.000instead of letting them do it, it wouldn't have to later come to that point.
01:40:06.000But what do you do if somebody comes to your house and tries to set it on fire, Steve?
01:40:14.000But, I mean, this is a big story we've got today.
01:40:17.000The police were ordered to stand back, which is what we were saying yesterday.
01:40:22.000We were debating whether, you know, the senior police had issued orders for them to hold back.
01:40:29.000And, indeed, there's articles out today that have confirmed that.
01:40:33.000So, you know, you've got the police standing by while these looters run riot.
01:40:38.000And then, also today, we've got videos of, because the police have been ordered to stand back and do nothing, we've got videos of these sort of vigilante groups springing up now.
01:40:50.000which are a very complex thing because they're made up not only of people that genuinely do want to protect their community and rightly so and their families and stuff like that in the absence of the police doing so.
01:41:06.000But, you know, these groups are also made up of a different kind of job mentality and it's this sort of division between these communities that is what we've been talking about for so long that we've seen come into fruition now.
01:41:24.000Absolutely, as society breaks into gangs, And the article is at prisonplanet.com and infowars.com.
01:41:32.000This is big news when you get this out to everybody.
01:41:35.000But we also need to point out that the police many times, if they can't get welfare folks to riot, they'll go out and do it themselves dressed as anarchists.
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01:46:19.000We've covered the flash mob reports by the British Ministry of Defense four years ago, the Department of Defense three years ago, laying out how all this would happen and how a police state would be needed.
01:46:31.000And it'll be executed against the general population that's non-violent and non-criminal.
01:46:36.000That's why under this social engineering system, it is absolutely imperative that the general public be disarmed.
01:46:44.000Because you can't play the giant, poor, welfare, disenfranchised, thug culture that's been popularized by MTV and made to be sexy.
01:46:58.000Off against the scared chicken-necked middle class if you don't have a scared chicken-necked middle class.
01:47:05.000And joining us is an American journalist who's lived in London for many years, and he's done great reports for us from Copenhagen Summit and other events, is Patrick Henningsen.
01:47:16.000And Max Keiser's coming up in about 30 minutes to give us his view on this.
01:47:21.000He scolded us in an email that we had it all wrong.
01:47:23.000This was a glorious liberation happening of the iPods and things.
01:47:29.000And I don't usually disagree with Keiser, but...
01:47:33.000But he'll straighten me out here in a moment.
01:48:27.000Yeah, listen, what you have here, what's been expressed in the last three or four days in this country is the culmination of a social experiment that's been going on starting with Margaret Thatcher through 10 years of Tony Blair government and now obviously into the David Cameron's coalition, conservative liberal Democrat government.
01:48:54.000And I'll top it off with the point that I wanted to make yesterday, which I didn't make, was the government and this country have set their priorities over the last 10 years of bombing and pillaging innocent people in countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, and most recently in Libya.
01:49:13.000We're spending $800,000 per cruise missile, dropping 7,000 of those in the first week.
01:49:24.000And they've taken their eye off the ball in this country.
01:49:27.000And sadly, I could have told you this is coming a long time ago, and so could everybody else in my neighborhood and anyone else who's lived in the city.
01:49:37.000To the sort of escalation that we've seen in the last 72 hours.
01:49:40.000You know, you've got young kids who've had their culture imported from America.
01:49:45.000What's meaningful for British young kids between the age of 12 and 18, American baseball caps, Nike trainers, track suits, hip-hop, Snoop Doggy dog.
01:49:58.000This is a culture which isn't even British.
01:50:01.000And let's be honest, that fake MTV culture that's only about 20 years old is a gang prison culture.
01:50:13.000the young kids don't know that when they let pants hang down over their hind end, that means I am a person who wants to have sex with everybody and get HIV here in the prison.
01:50:29.000The new manhood in America is being on welfare, going to prison, getting HIV.
01:50:35.000That's what our role models are, not explorers, not scientists, not firefighters that go into burning buildings.
01:50:43.000It is now the lowest of the low, common denominator, bling, garbage, psychic warfare, evil for the young girls.
01:50:52.000It's cut yourself, take drugs, Lady Gaga with dead Chinese political dissidents hanging on meat hooks at her events, everyone worshiping it.
01:51:01.000Just a total culture of flooded death with just zombie-like creatures running around in all directions.
01:51:08.000This is a genius psychic warhead that they've launched into us with precision.
01:51:15.000From an objective point of view, you can say very safely that in this country, and in America it's the same, you have millions of disaffected youth.
01:53:03.000The police now have admitted they were ordered to stand down.
01:53:05.000And Cameron's letting this get worse and worse and worse, so they can then bring in...
01:53:11.000Starting tomorrow, all perfectly timed.
01:53:13.000He didn't call back Parliament on Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday.
01:53:16.000He called it on Tuesday back for Thursday.
01:53:19.000At its height, with more burning and nothing being done, they will come in and pass totally draconian laws that will restrict the general public's rights ahead of true austerity and crackdowns.
01:53:31.000And they will probably go ahead and say, we're going to start shooting to kill anybody who politically protests.
01:53:37.000I mean, what they've done, for the first time on British mainland, this is not counting Northern Ireland, they're now authorizing that the police can have rubber bullets or plastic bullets in their rounds, and they will shoot losers on sight.
01:53:50.000This is something that is, it's the first time in history on the British mainland.
01:53:55.000Of course, if you live in Belfast, And I've spoken to Northern Irish people, and they're just kind of shaking their heads, like, because if this happened in Belfast, basically, water cannons would be out, they would just be spraying these kids all over the street, plastic bullets would be shot, and you can disperse crowds quite quickly.
01:54:11.000It's a fine line to walk between law and order and the security police state.
01:54:17.000Normally we'd have this debate 15 years ago, and it'd be a totally different discussion.
01:54:21.000But now the police state has moved so far forward into people's lives.
01:54:25.000The state has moved so far forward into people's lives that this is a natural progression.
01:54:30.000For people who are anarchists, for people who say they were doing this for freedom and against the establishment, they've just kicked the ball into their own goal.
01:54:39.000Because the state will clamp down on Twitter.
01:55:26.000I mean, if you were inside that pub barricaded in Sunday night and they were trying to set fire to you inside of it, you would be insane to not go out and defend yourself.
01:55:35.000But in this gelded, castrated world, that is the ultimate crime.
01:55:56.000And everyone's going to have aluminum baseball bats and crowbars inside their door and if anything's going down i'm calling the neighborhood chain and we're going to basically uh make sure everybody's okay and if anything goes down we're blocking off the both ends of our streets unless you live here um no kids coming in no looting you know no no burning it's not going to happen and by the way as you restore order they will send the cops and tell you you can't do it
01:56:21.000well the prime minister would save a whole lot of money and a whole lot of uh resources if you let communities self-organize a little bit But what that will be, that's forbidden because that's basically saying you're no longer dependent on the state.
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