In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, Alex Jones talks about the Fast and Furious case, the Iran attack on Iran, and the cover-up by the mainstream media. He is joined by Lt. Col. Anthony Schaefer, who ran operations trying to kill bin Laden and was blocked.
00:00:46.000Hundreds, I can't even keep track, of top experts coming out and saying this is totally fake and phony.
00:00:51.000We now have the affidavits they used to arrest this used car salesman, drunk pothead.
00:00:56.000He was just trying to do a drug deal with the very Los Zetas that the Justice Department allows to ship drugs in and ships guns into Mexico.
00:01:19.000Congressman King labels Iran a terror plot, an act of war.
00:01:22.000Says Obama should have troops on standby for a strike, not even having Israel strike.
00:01:26.000Joining us for the next 30 minutes is Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer.
00:01:30.000His bio is too long, but he ran operations trying to kill bin Laden and was blocked.
00:01:34.000He's best-selling author of Operation Dark Heart and he dropped a bombshell two days ago and we wrote an article about it at Infowars.com on Andrew Napolitano's Fox Business Show.
00:01:45.000We'll get kicked off here now saying that he has an FBI Justice Department source that told him this whole plot was not in the computer system.
00:02:34.000There's just no information within their systems indicating the background on this, which is a huge red flag for a lot of guys on the inside.
00:02:42.000I've got to tell you, even if there's a desire, Alex, there's really very little military capability.
00:02:47.000One of the things that was revealed to me is that, yeah, there's been a call that's gone out for capability to do something, but, you know, for better or for worse, everything is really tied up in Afghanistan right now.
00:02:57.000So, you know, there may be some elements here who are desiring the outcome when we move forward, but I've got to be honest with you, the former issue of what you said in your introduction, the issue regarding Southwest border in the Zetas, I really think is driving the transits Okay, some stations don't carry this first five minutes, so I want to come back, Colonel, and recap all of this, but did I hear you correctly?
00:03:24.000You talked to your Justice Department source, and they said, yeah, it's not in the system, and basically, if this thing did exist and wasn't a fabrication, it would be in the system, or somebody doesn't want the investigation looked at and has expunged it?
00:03:40.000Either one of those are the options we're looking at.
00:03:51.000Especially at this point in time after this has been out in the news several days.
00:03:54.000There's normally a great deal of information showing how the investigation came to the conclusions it did.
00:03:59.000And they're telling me, and I talked to another expert this morning regarding the actual indictment and the details of that.
00:04:05.000The actual indictment will not hold up in a court of law, according to my expert.
00:04:09.000So, basically there's a two-fer here, Alex.
00:04:12.000First, there's no credible information inside the system where people should be able to find it if they have a need to know and right to know the information.
00:04:19.000And secondly, the experts have looked at the actual indictment and are telling me, this is not going to hold water when it comes to trial.
00:04:27.000So that, therefore, you know, and please don't get me wrong, I do believe the Iranians are a threat.
00:04:32.000There are things that they have done and are doing which threaten the country.
00:04:36.000All I'm saying is, right now, this one instance does not look to be legitimate from everybody I'm talking to.
00:04:42.000Alright, well then the question is, I want to come back, Colonel, and we appreciate you joining us, to recap everything you've said and flesh it out in more detail, and then ask, why is this coming forward now, and what's the outcome going to be?
00:04:54.000Because they're talking about cooking up new plots.
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00:06:06.000My friends, in the last 16 plus years I've been on air, few things I've covered have been as important as we're covering right now.
00:06:18.000And I gotta be honest with you, as bad as things are, you don't know who's good and bad until you get to that crisis moment.
00:06:26.000And I am heartened by the fact that I have literally, without even trying, seen more than 50 analysts, and I know there's more than that, top Clinton, Bush administrations, You name it, come out.
00:06:39.000Pentagon people, Colonel Schaefer, FBI people giving him information, Steve Pucinich, Ray McGovern, Bob Bair, coming out saying this Iran situation is totally, totally phony.
00:06:54.000These are not people that are, you know, peaceniks or something.
00:06:57.000The point is, why has this been manufactured now?
00:07:00.000Now, Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer, best-selling author of the book they tried to redact, Operation Darkheart, the guy that had the top al-Qaeda people in his sights was barred from killing him.
00:07:09.000Pre-9-11, the guy that was persecuted for blowing the whistle but came out stronger on the other side.
00:07:14.000For able danger, a real patriot, Colonel Schaefer joins us for the next 20 minutes.
00:07:22.000And then we've got Gerald Salente joining us and also Dr. Steve Pachinik, who worked in a lot of different black op capacities, including assassinations and overthrowing governments.
00:07:32.000He called me 10 times yesterday morning.
00:07:35.000Ring, ring, ring, till I got off the treadmill, went over and talked to him.
00:07:44.000But I was just getting some good news from Colonel Schaefer, if you missed the last segment, saying there are people that want to launch this war, but the assets aren't there.
00:07:53.000So I want to walk through this carefully.
00:07:54.000But Colonel Schaefer, take your time, because Obviously that became a big national news story when you were on Judge Napolitano's Fox Business and said your high-level Justice Department source with a high-level security clearance said it was not in the computers.
00:08:16.000You said you met with the source again today or did you say yesterday to make sure you were right about about this now that it's such a big story.
00:08:23.000And then your incredible Pentagon connections.
00:08:46.000But I know you are high level in the think tanks and the Pentagon connections and, you know, lecture on actual strategy level.
00:08:53.000And so you're Your security clearance has been as high as it gets, so you've got sources I don't have.
00:08:58.000So let's walk through here for people the magnitude of this, because a lot of my sources say this is the closest we've gotten to an actual attack on Iran, and you've got Congressman King saying this is an act of war, Obama's got to get the military going.
00:09:13.000Certainly, this is the biggest drum beating I've seen, and why would they use such a faulty piece of garbage to sell this?
00:09:23.000Well, first off, you know, I think it is very clear that the thing that we must do, and this I talk to a lot of folks who are of my mind, you know, the last thing we want to do, Alex, is make an enemy of the Iranian people.
00:09:37.000The Iranian people are Persians, and frankly, they are as fed up with the theocracy which rules them as we are.
00:09:43.000The thing is, though, we cannot afford to make them an adversary in the process of moving forward.
00:09:48.000The military debate is so important at this point because some people recognize you want to have all the different components available to you to do things.
00:09:56.000At the same time, the last thing you want to do is actually do something which will enable the theocracy to actually clamp down even more on the people.
00:10:04.000That's the issue right now that I'm being told is really kind of the thing that's pushing people back.
00:10:09.000Now, regarding the history, let me be very clear for your audience to understand.
00:10:14.000Look, when I was in Afghanistan, and this is my book, Dark Heart, we found the Iranians were up to no good as early as 2003.
00:10:22.000There's two chapters devoted to an interrogation of a U.S.
00:10:28.000His brother was working for the IRGC, and his brother was there in eastern Afghanistan, on the opposite side of the country from Iran, paying people to stir up trouble against Let me be very clear, I'm not pro-Iranian by any circumstance of the imagination.
00:10:43.000I have seen what these people, what the Iranian IRGC has been doing to try to kill our soldiers.
00:10:49.000So there's no way in heck that I would ever come out for the Iranians.
00:10:53.000With that said, I think we have to understand that we're playing a chess game and simply pushing our military towards a kinetic solution is not the best solution here.
00:11:07.000And what concerns me is that, as you mentioned in the introduction, this operation just smells, this assassination concept smells of a plot.
00:11:21.000I've got to tell you, I was at my publisher yesterday in New York City, and I actually asked him, did you guys leak the outline of my next book?
00:11:30.000Because, frankly, a lot of the stuff that's in this current plot is actually in a plot line we're working on in my next book.
00:11:36.000So I've got to be honest with you, Alex.
00:11:38.000I was flabbergasted when I saw this materialize in the press because much of this And not only like a Hollywood script, frankly, you know, we were looking at doing something in fiction, which mimics very closely what's going on in this so-called plot.
00:11:54.000So that's what made me just sit up and say, wow, there's something really wacky about this.
00:11:59.000And that- Colonel Schaefer, for those that don't know, A lot of times, different agencies, even different governments will use plot lines to actually carry out real attacks or fake attacks.
00:12:12.000They will also, as has been admitted for 12 years that I know of, the Pentagon, the CIA actually pay script writers to write scripts for them, quote, to be able to imagine what terrorists might do.
00:12:24.000So the fact that You went to your publisher when you were in New York to be on MSNBC yesterday, because I know you were there, you couldn't come on here yesterday, and that you're saying maybe somebody leaked your script and then maybe the White House used it.
00:12:38.000Well, it may be because there are so many parallels to this thing.
00:12:43.000Frankly, what we're looking at here is a plot where 24 meets The Sopranos, which makes me... You know, obviously it's great for fiction, but I think the reality which we're faced with is entirely different.
00:12:54.000And let me tell you, as an intelligence professional, This used car salesman would be the last individual in the world that I, as a professional intelligence officer, would direct to get in contact with a drug group to become a group of assassins.
00:13:08.000Let me tell you, on the face of that, you know, that is beyond any operational knowledge that any intelligence officer would do.
00:13:17.000You just don't trust someone with that lack of focus and training to do something that would be that key and critical to an assassination plot.
00:13:27.000Wouldn't you normally go after well-performing former military people, or doctors, or engineers, or people that have shown that they're focused and professional?
00:13:36.000There's a term, and you've used it before, called vetting.
00:13:38.000One of the things, one of the key elements of any successful intelligence operation, you can ask Bob Bailey this, Bob would probably tell you the same thing.
00:13:45.000The key to a successful intelligence operation is vetting of an asset, to make sure that you test them adequately, to understand, to make sure that they will do your bidding when the time comes.
00:13:55.000And frankly, this guy was, as far as I could tell, I wouldn't have used him to do basically a dead drop for me, because I think he's not even that reliable.
00:14:05.000And the second thing that you need to look at, and I hope your audience looks at very hard, is the wire transfers.
00:14:11.000My goodness, you know, since the beginning of the current war, everybody's been looking at high-dollar transfers of money.
00:14:18.000So again, an intelligence organization with the professional background of the IRGC, or the Coups Force, you know, I think they watch us very closely.
00:14:27.000So for them to make an amateur mistake tells me one of two things.
00:14:31.000There was a radical element within the Quds Force who was just doing this on their own and really kind of wanted to discredit the other side.
00:14:38.000And let's not forget that within the Iranian government there is a huge conflict going on between Ahmadinejad and the other folks who want to do different things.
00:14:49.000So this could well be good news by the fact that there's a visible break within the government and someone there did this trying to prove a point.
00:14:59.000But, on the other hand, this could be, again, a provocation by someone here who basically wanted this to be caught.
00:15:06.000And again, I've talked to a number of intelligent professionals, many of which, Alex, are... And again, like you've already said, these guys and gals are not pro-Iranian.
00:15:16.000But they've told me, based on their experience, because I wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy, that based on their experience, this basic format does not add up to any known format for a successful intelligence operation, if you're reliable.
00:15:32.000It is, but it does fit the format that we've seen hundreds of times the last few years of the FBI setting up mentally ill patsies or just purely setting people up.
00:15:41.000And as you mentioned, the affidavit, it's in the news today with those that have seen the affidavit, that it was the informant running the whole thing.
00:15:49.000And this was just some idiot trying to be part of a drug deal and make some money.
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00:20:56.000But as to why I think it happened, for one thing, I think it was because it was too good to be true, maybe, for someone who's a trader to come on TV and say those things.
00:21:10.000Because usually, you know, these financial pundits who come on TV, they don't say anything so substantive.
00:21:17.000They just say the same old crap all the time, you know.
00:21:21.000So someone actually spoke, someone actually said something which sounded true, seemed to be true for some of these guys, some of these, you know, media folks, so maybe that was one reason.
00:21:36.000As for whether it was a conspiracy to discredit me, it's possible, but I don't know for sure.
00:21:44.000Well, my point is, is I've seen other people on other prominent channels.
00:21:51.000He had his own BBC show a few years ago and basically said similar things, because it's true.
00:21:56.000And there wasn't this big gasping and freaking out.
00:21:59.000I mean, I think a lot of it is because this stuff is so transparent now, it's so obvious that the emperor is wearing no clothes, that when you pointed it out in a clear and concise way, it freaked him out.
00:22:08.000I mean, I've talked to people that are invited to fellow reserve meetings to be let in, you know, to the inside scoop if they're wealthy, and they say, things are going to collapse, here's how we profit.
00:22:23.000You said, hey, you can make a lot of money off this.
00:22:25.000And so you did let the cat out of the bag, or you let the general public know that they're on the menu for dinner.
00:22:30.000But let's now talk, you know, unfettered, specifically from your years of trading, why you picked up this worldview and what some of the other traders around you say.
00:22:42.000I mean, let us into more of the secrets that seem to upset these people so much.
00:22:48.000Yeah, I mean, it's interesting you mentioned secrets because I don't think they are secrets.
00:22:54.000You know, I mean, I know there's a lot of people, you know, general in the general public who don't know about these things, about the fact that traders and even nowadays with technology, even ordinary people can make money when markets go down.
00:23:10.000But what I was talking about, I mean, you're right, Alex, because in a way, what I was talking about is what Goldman Sachs has been getting away with for years, which is basically
00:23:23.000dumping crap on people and Then betting against the very same people, you know, so taking taking on the opposite side of the action To what they themselves were selling it happened in the dot-com crash the year 2000 It happened in the Great Depression 1930s.
00:23:42.000It happened in the housing bubble in the housing crash so what I was saying to people is look these guys these these bankers these these These idiots who got us into this mess in the first place.
00:23:55.000These guys already making money by betting against you.
00:23:58.000By betting against everybody in the stock market.
00:24:11.000What I was trying to get out there is, there are ways that you too, whether you're listening from home or anywhere, that you too can get on the same game that these guys have been doing for years.
00:24:24.000So I don't think it's a big secret, but some people obviously thought, well, this stuff is new.
00:24:31.000Well, some have likened it to suicide bankers.
00:24:34.000Max Keiser, you know, tells that documented story in the 9-11 Commission of a guy who stayed at his desk, even though, you know, the building was on fire, to make trades betting against airlines.
00:24:49.000And, you know, he made five million dollars, but he died.
00:24:51.000It's almost this target psychosis or narcosis where they get so obsessed with the mission that they're wrecking society.
00:25:27.000I mean just a total disconnection from humanity.
00:25:32.000Give me your view on that because that's really what you were hitting upon was the predatory nature.
00:25:38.000See, the thing is, I'll be honest with you, Alex, look, when I'm looking to short the markets, you know, in layman's terms, you know, bet against the markets or make money downwards, I don't really think of it, I mean, maybe I guess I should, you know, maybe I should think of it from a human standpoint, but I don't.
00:25:58.000For me, it's just, you know, a job, you know, it's, In the same way that the carpenter makes buildings, houses, in the same way that the plumber fixes pipes, a fireman does his job.
00:26:09.000For me, betting against the markets and selling short when markets crash, it's just part of the game.
00:26:17.000I don't really think of it in those kind of terms.
00:26:20.000You know, whether whether people are, you know, the fact is that companies are going bankrupt and people's jobs and pension is going down with it.
00:26:31.000I mean, I know it sounds terrible, but that's the truth.
00:26:35.000Sure, you're just being honest about the current system.
00:26:37.000I mean, that's like with Bonnie and Clyde.
00:26:39.000They asked Clyde, why do you rob banks?
00:26:40.000He said, that's where the money's at, or you've got the parable of the scorpion and the frog, and the scorpion says, will you take me across the river?
00:26:47.000The frog says, you're gonna sting me and kill me.
00:26:48.000He said, no, I promise, I'll be friendly.
00:27:00.000And so I guess in a way we're the sheep here to be gang-raped and the vampires are here to feed and then they even call it free market so the grassroots calls for socialism which only helps the bankers more because now they can consolidate power and suck it off offshore and I mean it's kind of our bug-eyed, sheepish, mentally retarded lot to just sit here and be gang-raped?
00:27:25.000A lot of people do think That people who sell short, people who are betting against the markets, making money when the markets crash, that it's immoral.
00:27:55.000We could short big evil corrupt companies we don't like.
00:27:59.000I purely get it's just a tool force of nature.
00:28:01.000I'm talking about Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, JP Morgan, the insiders who are exempt from SEC rules, whose former officers sit in the Federal Reserve and SEC, who've gotten tens of trillions of bank or bailout money to back up their derivative crap, because you were bringing up people selling garbage.
00:28:27.000You were getting off into, you know, on the show that I saw on BBC about Goldman Sachs, you know, making money in down times and they rule the world.
00:28:48.000Well that's absolutely true and I would agree with you 100% because Goldman Sachs has been behind, as I mentioned, almost every major crash in history and a good example is the dot-com crash.
00:29:01.000Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
00:29:05.000This is our last chance to not relive history.
00:29:08.000As they're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
00:29:13.000We have tremendous influence on our president and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
00:29:19.000I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner?
00:29:43.000And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.
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00:33:24.000Now we learn, it's more like Iran-Contra, covered it earlier on the Wednesday show, where it's admitted that The U.S.
00:33:31.000government allows drugs to be shipped in by select cartels, then actually ships them the guns.
00:33:36.000Does it just allow them to leave gun shops, and then gives it to cartels to wipe out their enemy, and then recycle the crisis and blame the Second Amendment for it?
00:33:45.000Now the Attorney General has been caught perjuring himself, but I noticed that ISSA and others are saying, come in and change your testimony.
00:33:52.000We understand it was a mistake because we've learned that Fast and Furious under another name is at least five and a half years old and goes back to the Bush administration allowing the Sinaloa cartel to bring in drugs in exchange for protection and guns to wipe out their enemies.
00:34:08.000And that is actually in Hawaiian papers, Texas papers, El Paso Times, but it's not getting national attention.
00:34:14.000I think this is one of the most red-handed examples of problem-reaction solution I've ever seen.
00:34:19.000So your view on Fast and Furious and how important problem-reaction solution has been in history.
00:34:26.000Well, it's certainly been important, hasn't it, Alex, in our history in America, because for many years, actually long before the first Bush administration, there have been forces within the United States government who have wanted to have an excuse To change the character of the government and the character of life in the United States.
00:34:49.000This goes back, actually, to the turn of the last century.
00:34:54.000You may be familiar, we came across the testimony of Norman Dodd, who was the chief investigator of the tax-exempt foundations shortly after the end of World War II.
00:35:07.000And his testimony was absolutely stunning because he interviewed the heads of some of the largest tax-exempt foundations of the country at that time.
00:35:15.000And we're talking about the Carnegie Endowment Fund for International Peace.
00:35:20.000We're talking about the Ford Foundation and the Rockefeller Foundations and so forth, the big giants.
00:35:26.000And his testimony was startling because he found out that these foundations were deliberately spending huge amounts of money to create crises, to create conditions of chaos inside the United States as a stimulus to to create conditions of chaos inside the United States as a stimulus to the American mind so that they would be willing to accept drastic changes in the
00:35:52.000Their goal is expressed by, I think his name was Norman Gaither at the time, one of the big foundation heads.
00:35:58.000He said, Mr. Dodd, our instructions are, our motive, our goal is to change life inside the United States so that it could be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union.
00:36:11.000Now this was his exact words and Dodd said that he almost fell off his chair when he heard that.
00:36:16.000He said, how in the heck can anybody in their right mind expect to change life in the United States so that it could be merged with the Soviet Union and by inference with all of the other nations of the world, especially of the Many of them being dictatorial in nature.
00:36:31.000That means that the United States would have to give up its cherished freedoms, its judicial system, its way of life.
00:36:39.000Freedom of speech, our rights, and so forth.
00:36:42.000And the answer came with a They'll be glad to do that if it's seen by them as a means of protecting them against a dreaded enemy of some kind.
00:36:51.000And so the Carnegie Endowment Fund and all these other groups decided that they would do everything they could to manipulate the United States into war.
00:36:59.000And to keep us in war for as long as possible, because under conditions of warfare, with a dreaded enemy always portrayed to us, we are in fact willing to give up all of those cherished things.
00:37:10.000Well, that was back in the 1940s that he discovered all of this, and now here it is, here it is 2011, And all of the things that Norman Dodd said, that'll never happen.
00:37:23.000They could never bring about those changes.
00:37:27.000What's the difference between life in the United States today, at a deep level, and all of the totalitarian systems of the world?
00:37:36.000There's so little difference anymore, and those differences are being whittled away as we speak.
00:37:41.000So it's actually come to pass, and as you say, it's problem and it's solution, you know, We create a problem, then we offer a solution, and that creates a problem in itself, and we have another solution, and each little step along the way moves us closer and closer to the ultimate goal.
00:37:58.000Well, the ultimate goal, as I've said before, is to change life inside the United States, so it can be comfortably merged with all of the nations of the world, regardless of their sociological, economic, or political characteristics.
00:38:14.000To bring about this New World Order, as they like to describe it.
00:38:18.000This is the goal, and it's the kind of a New World Order that I'm sure most Americans would not like if they fully could understand it and perceive what it is.
00:38:28.000So, yeah, it's a definite strategy, it's a tactic, it's not just happening by blind, random forces of history at all.
00:38:36.000It's been planned, and it's being executed in exactly that fashion.
00:38:41.000It certainly is, and we've got to counter them.
00:38:45.000I mean, never before has it been more obvious.
00:38:48.000How criminal these elites are, and that they're gaining monopoly control through government, and then they fund the opposition to call for more government, which is like throwing, you know, the rabbit into the briar patch.
00:39:15.000I mean, I really see kind of a dichotomy or a paradox where either people are getting more, you know, into the trance and deeply asleep or they're getting more awake.
00:40:47.000They try to teach us that resistance is futile, like the corporate Borg in Star Trek.
00:40:52.000But every man, woman, and child, every religion, every race, every group out there needs to realize that every little thing they do Towards liberty and freedom and waking others up and resisting adds together to defeat the collectivist.
00:41:07.000So it's like our free will by doing little actions adds to a liberty collective and an individual collective that they can't track or control that is a cookie cutter that is going to defeat their Borg system.
00:41:25.000Well, I agree with that, and also there's another element, Alex, and you've heard me talk about it a lot, and that is that knowledge by itself, and even sheer numbers by themselves, as important as they are, are not as important as what you do with that knowledge and what positions those numbers hold, the people that represent those numbers.
00:41:44.000What positions do they hold in society?
00:41:52.000Do people follow them and listen to them?
00:41:54.000Or are they just sort of rank and file?
00:41:56.000And so one of my big themes with the organization that we founded called Freedom Force International is to motivate people to network together so that they can help each other come into positions of leadership and influence in society.
00:42:24.000Well, that's what the CFR, that's what the CFR is all about.
00:42:28.000As you know, British Intel set it up to take over the U.S.
00:42:31.000again in 1922, is they go out and recruit already prominent people and offer them more power to be part of this structure Where they admit they're trying to create this continuity of agenda, and there's this idea that the establishment puts out that freedom fighters are supposed to live in a ditch, talk to people over a tin can, and have no power.
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00:47:04.000You're listening to the Alex Jones Broadcasting Network.
00:47:08.000Off with the one, the only Max Keiser.
00:47:19.000Now we've talked about a lot of issues with Max in the past, the gulag economy, the fact that banks were going to start charging you to keep money, and in this cashless society that they would basically force people onto a digital plantation where you're actually charged for the right to engage in commerce, kind of a global private tax to the bankers.
00:48:17.000Always a pleasure to be with you, Alex Jones.
00:48:20.000A few weeks ago a trader came out, a stock trader on BBC and it made huge news and he was an independent trader and he said that Goldman Sachs rules the world and there's a global occupation of bankers.
00:48:34.000It basically sounded like a replay of Max Keiser or Alex Jones and everybody freaked out and dozens of publications, Washington Post, I mean, you name it.
00:48:44.000The BBC had to come out and say, yes, this is really a real person.
00:48:49.000I mean, now stating the obvious, they have to ask you, is the guy a real traitor?
00:48:54.000Why does that get everybody so freaked out?
00:48:57.000But then when you talk about it on big international television or even on BBC with your own show, it doesn't get as much attention.
00:49:04.000Well, the big interesting part of the Rustani interview that you're referring to, what made it really interesting and newsworthy was the reaction of the BBC presenters who have been cuckold by the banking industry and lied to for years and years that they are doing the right thing and the good thing.
00:49:26.000And so they were like, A spouse who suddenly finds out that their wife or husband is cheating on them.
00:49:32.000You know, these BBC presenters were told in public that the banks are actually trying to screw them!
00:50:14.000Yep, the shafts of light of what's really going on are now beaming into the very controlled media situation.
00:50:21.000So this is a part of that, and it's growing.
00:50:25.000I'm just reading a tweet right now from Lucy Kavanaugh, who's with Russia Today, and she is saying that there's a crowd outside of Jamie Dimon's house on the Upper East Side of New York City chanting, USA, USA.
00:50:42.000So as you know Alex, we've been talking about the fact that the real people behind the Banking Terrorist Network are principally Lloyd Blankfein and Jamie Dimon.
00:50:51.000We've been telling people that they need to focus their attention on these two characters.
00:50:58.000Jamie Dimon is suddenly being called out for the financial terrorist that he is.
00:51:02.000The facade has been torn away and people now understand that if you really are for USA, USA, that you would want this terrorist at Guantanamo Bay or waterboarded or something like that.
00:51:16.000because he is destroying your economy more than anyone else in the world today.
00:51:20.000So finally, people understand who the villain is in this story.
00:51:26.000And your show has, of course, been a big part of that.
00:51:29.000And I think your call to go after the Fed is also very important because Jamie Dimon is on the board of directors of the New York Fed as well as being the CEO of J.P. Morgan.
00:51:51.000And, um, it makes, you know, perfect sense.
00:51:53.000I hope people like Naomi Klein, who is now resurfacing again.
00:51:58.000You know, she was a big name during the anti-globalization movement of the late 90s.
00:52:02.000And she's kind of taking ownership of the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations and protests.
00:52:08.000I hope that she understands and begins to talk about the Federal Reserve Bank and what they do and their role in this occupation in our own country by these foreign-owned terrorists, the bankers.
00:52:32.000Now in San Antonio, in Dallas, in New York, in D.C., the people that have gotten control of it are Democratic Party operatives in many cases.
00:52:42.000And they say, no Ron Paul signs, no protest the Fed.
00:52:46.000And then they say to us, how dare you not go after Bank of America, Goldman Sachs?
00:52:50.000A city group, Wells Fargo, and I'm like, those are the big mega banks that own the shares of the Federal Reserve.
00:52:56.000The Federal Reserve is how they get their government power.
00:52:58.000It's how they get their trillions in bailouts.
00:53:01.000So I'm saying take out their power, take out their fortress, then we can get the little buggers inside.
00:53:08.000And just like the mainline Tea Party got co-opted by Republicans, now they don't want to go after the Fed.
00:53:13.000When it all started with Ron Paul four years ago, now they want to be led by Herman Cain, the former head of the Fed in Kansas City.
00:53:19.000And it's the same thing with the Democrats now, and the Fed coming out and endorsing Occupy Wall Street, in a hope of blaming Mainline, Main Street, and the tens of thousands of legitimate companies on Wall Street.
00:53:33.000Instead, now it's this class warfare thing, exactly what Mainline Democrats want, and it makes me very, very sad, because I wanted to embrace Occupy Wall Street, and I know it's a diverse group, but the people that the mainstream media gives attention People like Michael Moore, you know, saying let's get rid of capitalism.
00:53:51.000No, the problem is monopoly capitalists that you talk so much about, these monopoly men.
00:53:58.000Am I right in what I'm saying or am I wrong?
00:54:01.000Should I embrace Karl Marx right now on air?
00:54:04.000Well, as you can imagine, I'm in pretty close contact with the organizers of Occupy Wall Street, principally David DeGraw, who's one of the two or three top people who brought the whole thing to life.
00:54:17.000And he and I have been talking about this lack of specific demands for the groups.
00:54:24.000And my issue, the risk that I put forward, is that As the movement gets bigger and bigger and bigger without a specific goal, it's ripe to be co-opted.
00:54:37.000And I saw evidence of this just a few days ago when Unilever, which owns Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream, came out in favor of Occupy Wall Street.
00:54:49.000When foreign corporations In this case, a Dutch company, Unilever, and they have their fake, organically driven Ben & Jerry's ice cream front come out and start to co-op this movement for corporate sales purposes.
00:55:05.000You know you're on a slippery slope down to irrelevance.
00:55:08.000And this is the problem is not having a specific goal.
00:55:11.000If Occupy Wall Street said, our specific goal is to demand that Jamie Dimon steps down as CEO of J.P.
00:55:20.000Morgan and from the New York Federal Reserve Bank chair position.
00:55:25.000Or demand a return of Glass-Steagall, or that the trillions of stolen bailout be clawed back.
00:55:30.000Right, but I mean, those demands require a bit more process and time, whereas a regime change, like Hosni Mubarak in Egypt, I mean, once he got the message, he had to step down.
00:55:43.000Yeah, so we put out a simpler demand to show the power of the movement that makes sense.
00:55:48.000Hey, step down Jamie Dimon, and by the way, we want criminal investigations.
00:55:59.000But you did demonstrate that the power of the group to affect the regime change.
00:56:06.000And if they put up somebody else who's like Jamie Dimon is a financial terrorist, then we're going to he's going to have to step down, too.
00:56:12.000So the regime change is a very specific goal.
00:56:15.000If you do this, then Unilever and Ben and Jerry's would not want to attach themselves to your movement.
00:56:22.000Because suddenly it's got a specific goal and they themselves rely on Jamie Dimon for financing and JPMorgan for financing.
00:56:29.000So by law, their fiduciary responsibility would preclude them from being anywhere near the Occupy Wall Street demands.
00:56:37.000So this is why having a specific goal is paramount to galvanizing an action that will allow this movement to have some success.
00:56:49.000It's just going to get bigger and bigger and bigger until it's co-opted by corporate America and you'll start to see commercials on TV with Ben and Jerry down at Occupy Wall Street eating some new flavor of ice cream like, you know, Occupy, Occupy Cream Pie or something like that.
00:57:04.000Yeah, and it'll become just another part of that American fudge that just kind of permeates everything that we do, where everything's great, don't worry, Disney is here to rescue you, and it just goes down the drain.
00:57:27.000And it's just the left wing of the same military industrial banking complex.
00:57:31.000I mean, look at Obama, the wars, the torture, the extrajudicial killings, and now quoting Bush statements by his evil lawyers as the excuse for him to act as an imperial legate. and now quoting Bush statements by his evil lawyers as Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
00:57:55.000This is our last chance to not relive history.
00:57:58.000As they're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
00:58:03.000I have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
00:58:10.000I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists!
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01:00:28.000She's an American actress, comedian, writer, television producer, and director.
01:00:32.000She worked doing stand-up comedy until 85 appearance on The Tonight Show, brought her to the limelight.
01:00:37.000She is most famously known for her role in the ABC hit sitcom, uh, Roseanne, which ran for nine seasons from 88 to 97.
01:00:44.000Uh, Barr won an Emmy and a Golden Globe, a Kids' Choice Award, and three American Comedy Awards for her part in the show.
01:00:53.000And on January 4, 2011, she released her third book titled Rose Anarchy Dispatches from the Nut Farm.
01:01:01.000And so she's gotten a lot of national attention in the last week.
01:01:05.000And there she is on the book cover for presentplanet.tv viewers dressed up, I guess, like Che Guevara with an AK-47 with bombs dropping behind her.
01:01:42.000I'd like to establish a system that actually is based on solutions to actual problems that exist in the world rather than the exploitation of those problems for the enrichment of a few.
01:01:58.000Okay, tell us, then you've got the floor, tell us what the problems are and then what some basic solutions are.
01:02:04.000Oh boy, well, you know, the problems are that we don't think, we're not thinking outside of the box, basically, and we need to get out of our mind control program and come up with solutions to problems that exist in the world.
01:02:20.000We have to come up with a, you know, a way to get the food to the hungry.
01:02:25.000And if you saw, you know, which is like something that I think about a lot and, you know, a lot of people smarter than me think about too.
01:02:31.000And a lot of people smarter and dumber than me don't think about that ever.
01:02:35.000And, you know, I just think it's something that we should call attention to.
01:02:40.000Actual problems of actual human beings instead of systems that don't work and obsolete ways of thinking about things.
01:02:50.000Why did you agree to come on this show?
01:02:53.000Max Keiser sent us an email over and then we were contacted and I was flattered.
01:02:57.000Why did you agree to come on this show?
01:02:58.000I mean, I would imagine you're getting asked on thousands of programs.
01:03:02.000I've just listened to you a lot and I think we have a lot that we agree on and there's a lot that we don't agree on also.
01:03:08.000But I really think that Americans and people in the world should start concentrating on things that they do agree with each other on so that we can arrive at solutions a lot faster.
01:03:19.000Well, I think... So, you know, I mean, we don't agree on a lot of things, obviously, but we do on others, so why not?
01:03:38.000But before we do that, because we're going to come to a break and come back and some stations join us then, what are some of the things you disagree with me on?
01:04:06.000Sure, I mean, look, if you believe in the right to keep and bear arms and defend yourself... I have guns, hell yeah, I have guns, rifles, hell yes I do believe, absolutely believe that.
01:04:14.000Okay, well when a woman starts saying hell yes about guns, I'm starting to find you really attractive right now.
01:04:19.000I'm a hell of a shot, I'll tell you that.
01:06:03.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
01:06:10.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:06:15.000Well, not one to shrink away from controversy, Roseanne Barr, who needs no introduction, on Max Keiser's TV show over the weekend, said, hey, re-education camps for the bankers if they won't, uh...
01:06:29.000You know, pay more money in taxes if they make over $100 million a year or off with their heads.
01:06:34.000And so we found out she was a listener and we were excited to get her on and I was talking to her during the break.
01:06:39.000She says she even post our videos and things on her own blog when she agrees with us.
01:06:44.000So we're going to explore all of that today and find out if she's serious about the things she said and let her basically elaborate on it.
01:06:52.000Roseanne, one of the biggest stories in the country was your statements.
01:06:56.000Would you like to expand on those or clarify them?
01:07:01.000Well, you know, I gave a speech on Mother's Day last year in front of the White House where I You know, uh, announced my candidacy for President of the United States of America as well as Prime Minister of Israel.
01:07:16.000And it was based on, uh, the, you know, declaring patriarchal politics obsolete, and I called for, uh, the dawn of, uh, divine matriarchy to ascend to the planet.
01:07:30.000So, uh, that's kind of the context in which I spoke all of those things.
01:07:35.000But, you know, it's like I said in the last segment, Alex.
01:07:38.000I'm for a complete, completely new way of looking at things that, you know, is congruent with the whole new century.
01:07:47.000So, I just want to leave everything behind that doesn't work, which is basically everything, and start something new that actually does work and actually has, you know, a time limit to when problems can be solved.
01:08:01.000Like, so I said that within the first year of my presidency that I would legalize marijuana and end all wars, make war illegal, forgive all American debt and student loans, and, you know, I made some big statements.
01:08:14.000But if I am elected president of these United States, I will guarantee those things within the first 100 days of my presidency.
01:08:23.000What about your statement specifically, and we can play them again, but elaborate on re-education camps, chopping off... Well, I was talking about the people, you know, the people, the taxpayers of this country, as well as the citizens of this country.
01:08:42.000Have a right to seek justice for what's been done to them and people everywhere in every government all citizenry Demand justice and a system of just laws that they can actually exist under am I right?
01:08:56.000Yes, so I was saying that you know when an entire country has been fleeced and robbed there needs to be a different set of just there needs to be a different kind of justice that doesn't allow for that and that actually punishes the guilty so My statement was, you know, to explore what is the definition of guilty.
01:09:17.000And, uh, that, uh, you know, it means being tried in a court not heavily weighted in your favor as now.
01:09:25.000Like, none of these bankers are being arrested.
01:09:27.000And if, you know, like, beside Martha Stewart, who's the only person who's ever been arrested for any kind of, like, insider trading.
01:09:34.000But, you know, once they're arrested, uh, they would actually be tried in a court of law that they have not fought and paid for.
01:09:43.000So that's kind of what I'm, you know, pointing out the way things actually work.
01:09:48.000So, you know, I'm trying to speak about a new definition of guilty and it's like the worst of the worst of the worst of the guilty, you know, need to pay a price for what they've done.
01:10:03.000And specifically, were you serious about people make a cap of $100 million a year?
01:10:13.000In my opinion, there's absolutely no reason for anybody to be a bigger pig than to own $100 million.
01:10:21.000It's just a pig culture that allows people to starve in the streets and other people have $100 million.
01:10:29.000I believe in normalization of economic revenue.
01:10:32.000What about people like Michael Moore, who I've read is worth around $200 million, constantly lecturing people that capitalism itself is bad?
01:10:43.000I mean, what do you think of Michael Moore, A, and his statement that capitalism is the problem?
01:10:48.000Well, he's a very dear friend of mine and, you know, in many ways I agree with a lot of what he says, like you Alex, and in a lot of other ways I don't agree with many of the things that he says because I'm not, you know, I'm not just about dogma, I'm for human beings being able to speak to each other, particularly when they don't agree and come to a solution somewhere in the middle.
01:11:11.000But yes, I would take his wealth if it's over $100 million.
01:11:15.000Although I would be more forgiving towards Michael because I know how many people and how many organizations he does support.
01:11:25.000So, you know, I would make some allowances.
01:11:27.000I mean, it isn't just You know, I wouldn't be, you know, like, stalling or anything.
01:11:33.000Well, there's always, there's always people that make... I wouldn't take all of Oprah's, either, because she does good things.
01:11:39.000Like, you know, if people were doing good things with over $100 million, besides figuring out, sitting in little cubicles and figuring out how to move numbers so that they can steal more money, I would be more forgiving towards them.
01:11:52.000My issue is Michael Moore is calling for a middle class tax increase, then that money is stolen and paid to bankers in banker bailouts.
01:12:00.000So when I talk to the classical mainline left out there, I try to explain to them that big socialist systems actually get financed by the offshore banks because they can then take control of the government and steal that wealth.
01:12:30.000Now, what was this point about re-education camps?
01:12:35.000I wouldn't want to immediately behead the guilty who've stolen the entire wealth of communities and created poverty and terror within every community on earth that they've gone to and devalued the currency and then brought about food shortages shortly after.
01:12:54.000Because I'm a compassionate human, I would allow them to like actually go and be re-educated.
01:13:01.000It wouldn't be straight to the guillotine.
01:13:03.000It would be to the guillotine when they are found guilty and do nothing about it and try to continue.
01:14:08.000Well, I guess that, you know, my meaning there might have been lost, but it is about all despots.
01:14:15.000You'll see, like, you know, there's the Mao in there with the red star and the whole... You know, it's about all male despots that I'm kind of, like, taking over for.
01:14:26.000Rose Anarchy, if you read the book, is full of solutions to, you know, everyday problems that people face in a comical way.
01:14:36.000I never get why, because I see this on the street with some of the anarchists, they dress with communist stars on and call for communism, but call themselves anarchists.
01:14:44.000And I always wonder why that's the most popular combination.
01:14:46.000I would think it's communism is pretty much the opposite.
01:14:49.000I know they say in the endgame of communism, the state withers away, but that never seems to happen.
01:14:54.000That's true, but in Rose Anarchy, it would definitely not need to wither away because the state would not even exist.
01:15:06.000I just think mothers and grandmothers, Alex, they know how to run neighborhoods and that's what Rose Anarchy is about.
01:15:18.000Female intelligence was just always overlooked, and none of these politicians ever listen to anything that women do.
01:15:24.000And women are problem solvers, and that's what I'm for.
01:15:28.000Putting women in positions of power where they can actually solve problems rather than exploit them to be able to get at women.
01:15:37.000Now, would this be a dictatorship of women?
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01:20:57.000Now, wait a minute, though, because I understand this is feminine, divine goddess stuff that you're offering us.
01:21:03.000What I'm trying to get at here, though, Roseanne, is Stalin and Malinow them, they were making people share.
01:21:12.000I mean, how is this going to be different then?
01:21:16.000It will be smaller groups of people taking care of each other, you know, instead of like one, a huge, monolithic, unbendable bureaucracy that does nothing but rob people.
01:21:35.000What do you think of Obama and his Wall Street connections, I've never seen stronger ones, you may disagree, and the field of Republican candidates?
01:21:43.000Oh, well, you know, I'm thinking of running as a Republican.
01:21:47.000I'm just telling you that because I think that everything I say isn't that much weirder than the things they say, which was kind of my point.
01:21:56.000But Obama, I did not vote for Obama and I, you know, I knew that Obama got more Wall Street money than anybody ever had gotten before, and I was really scared because a large percentage of the money he got came from nuclear power corporations that have to do with that, so I was horrified by that.
01:22:24.000Well, we have to have somebody as our president.
01:22:37.000Yeah, he's a good friend of mine, but he has huevos, though, and you're saying this needs to be a woman thing.
01:22:43.000No, I would allow males to serve if they have half a brain in their head, and I do think that Jesse Ventura has more than half of a brain in his head, so I would allow him to actually serve our structure.
01:23:34.000You know, like again, there's just so many brilliant things that he says and stands for, and I agree with most of it, but I don't, you know, the libertarian thing, I don't know, and I don't see any real feminist subtext to any of it, so I'm not... I just think he's into freedom for everybody.
01:25:31.000You say you've been a listener for a while, and we know governments stage the Gulf of Tonkin to get us into Vietnam, and we know that Hitler blew up the Reichstag to set up a police state and go from an elected leader to a dictator in Germany.
01:25:46.000So we know governments and corporations stage things to blame it on their enemies throughout history.
01:25:51.000So I don't think it's crazy to then question The official story of 9-11, it has a lot of holes in it.
01:25:57.000Roseanne, what did you think the day of 9-11, and since then, what is your view of that tragic event?
01:26:03.000Well, you know, I'm for, like, you know, I definitely think we need to keep investigating until everybody's satisfied that they've heard the truth.
01:26:12.000So, you know, but I, you know, I agree with a lot of the stuff that truthers, as they're called, say, and I don't agree with a lot of other things that they say.
01:26:23.000I mean, like, Building 7, we have police saying, get back, they're going to blow it up, and then there's a bomb blast, and it falls at freefall.
01:26:32.000I mean, I read all the stuff about that, too, and a lot of people always send me, you know, a lot of information that I post on my blog Rosanneworld.com about it.
01:26:40.000So, you know, I don't know, but I think it's definitely worth a huge look.
01:26:49.000Oh, I know it was a completely synthetic manufactured event.
01:26:53.000Our government just gave al-Qaeda control of Libya and gave them thousands of heat-seeking missiles and are already saying they need to invade Libya from the liberators they put in and then I've got to let the TSA stick their hands down my pants or grab my wife's breast or molest my children or al-Qaeda is gonna shoot a rocket at me.
01:28:28.000It's just so friggin' ridiculous that I actually kind of, I mean, I hate to make light of it, but we kind of have to laugh more.
01:28:36.000Because I think laughing things to scorn is really powerful.
01:28:41.000So I always just stand there and everybody, hey, look, there's Roseanne from, or else they think, Rosie O'Donnell and she's getting felt up.
01:28:48.000I mean, I just think that the more visible we can be, the better.
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01:33:23.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:33:27.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:33:35.000Well, he is the second most listened to radio talk show host in the world.
01:33:42.00016 million on terrestrial radio, a couple million more on the internet and XM, Sirius, all those other systems.
01:33:48.000And I've been reading the trade publications, if he continues to grow within six months to a year, he will be undisputed number one radio talk show host in the world, eclipsing the great one in talk radio, Rush Limbaugh.
01:34:00.000Uh, now we're joined by, of course, George Norrie.
01:34:02.000We've only got him for about 35 minutes or so, because I guess we're keeping him up from his sleep right now, getting ready for his show tonight.
01:34:15.000A subject, I don't get into some of the subjects George covers.
01:34:18.000You know, he took the show seven, eight years ago in a new direction, covering more political stuff and hardcore issues, and we appreciate that.
01:34:25.000But he does get into some of the metaphysical.
01:34:27.000But one area I have covered, just because I've talked to family that's experienced it, to Colonel Craig Roberts and others that have experienced it, people who die do go over to the other side.
01:34:37.000People who are aboriginal Indians, have never read Western culture or Bible, have the same experience with angels, golden gates, Some people go to hell and come back, but George has gone further with Talking to the Dead, Coast to Coast AM host George Norrie.
01:34:52.000A new book that's now available at Amazon.com, and I've actually ordered one and intend to read it because I'm fascinated with the other side.
01:35:00.000I want to get into the book, but then obviously in a limited time, George, pick your brain about a couple other issues.
01:35:09.000I've been great and I work late a lot so sometimes when I'm up doing stuff I listen to Coast to Coast AM a couple days a week and then don't get any sleep because I get addicted listening.
01:35:18.000Well we get addicted every time you're on the program too.
01:35:22.000I can see the skewing in our ratings Alex every time you're on Coast to Coast people just Love what you're doing.
01:35:29.000And I've got to tell you, the alternative world is no longer the alternative world.
01:35:36.000The things that you do and the things that we've been doing, I think, are becoming regular, important issues worldwide.
01:35:44.000And everything we've talked about over the years, everything, seems to be coming true.
01:35:50.000And I find that to be not only startling, But absolutely riveting, and listeners are beginning to appreciate that.
01:36:25.000Absolutely, and of course, I will give you credit where credit is due.
01:36:29.000You were the one who paved the way for everybody to do this.
01:36:34.000I mean, you know, when I came in, Coast to Coast was the paranormal show.
01:36:38.000You know, as a matter of fact, people would say, oh, that's the UFO show.
01:36:42.000And that is now a small portion of what we do, because this world has changed.
01:36:49.000You know, for the last 10 years, This world has gone into such a metamorphosis that if we as broadcasters did not keep pace with that, did not change, did not alter the things we did, We would have been gone and we had to adjust.
01:37:08.000And I'm just glad that I was able to get convinced by people who called me about you years ago saying, you got to listen to this guy.
01:37:18.000Because as you know, originally I said, what do I want to promote another talk show host guy for?
01:37:24.000But then, you know, I said, you know what?
01:37:29.000And we've got to do that on this planet.
01:37:32.000Well, you certainly do it on your show.
01:37:33.000You know, you talk about the paranormal and stuff, kind of taking a back seat or being a third of the show now, and I like that direction, but I gotta admit, that some of those shows, and I'm always dealing with such, you know, in-your-face things, that's the show where I'm driving home at 1 a.m.
01:37:47.000where I'm actually looking in the back seat behind me.
01:37:50.000That's the show when I get into the house, I go ahead and grab some orange juice and fire up the computer and Flick on the AM Radio 590 here locally and listen.
01:37:59.000So I think it's really a great mix and you're a master talk show host and just amazing, George.
01:38:06.000And folks, people know I don't kiss up to people.
01:38:09.000I mean, George really is a master at what he does.
01:38:12.000You've got a 50 share, I saw a month or so ago in the newspaper.
01:38:17.000And in some areas, you've got a 60 share.
01:38:20.000I mean, we're talking about of all radio period, you've got more than half the listeners It's growing.
01:38:28.000It's a phenom and I think what we've done is we've touched the pulse.
01:38:32.000Of Americans, and they are looking for information, they're looking for people to tell them the truth, and that's what we're doing.
01:38:41.000And as you were talking about the latest book, Talking to the Dead, as I was leaving the studio last night, in the wee hours of the morning, I saw what I thought was a dead person outside of our studio door.
01:39:27.000Well, the book is called Talking to the Dead, and it is a book about the spirit world and what people are trying to do to communicate with the other side.
01:39:37.000And it is truly one of the most incredible stories I've ever, ever have done.
01:39:43.000I wrote the book, Alex, with Rosemary Ellen Guiley, who's an expert in the paranormal.
01:39:49.000And she is a great researcher and the two of us started investigating the various ways that people are trying to communicate with the other side.
01:40:01.000There are some hucksters out there and some frauds, but there are also some people out there who truly think that they can communicate with those on the other side.
01:40:10.000Maybe one day you're going to feel a phone call from someone who's passed on.
01:40:14.000Maybe Abe Lincoln will Well, I'm going to say this.
01:40:16.000Because of the political things I get into, I stay out of this because of how it would be used.
01:40:21.000But I've had some interesting experiences in my life.
01:40:25.000And there is a lot going on on this planet out in space that we haven't figured everything out yet.
01:40:30.000In fact, I don't think we've figured out 1% of what's happening, but what about this?
01:40:34.000I know there are hucksters out there claiming they communicate with the dead, but there's also people who do believe they are, and it surely may be happening.
01:40:42.000I know that the near-death experiences, when people actually die, they're experiencing similar things.
01:40:49.000People I really respect, they come back with new knowledge, but what about hucksters on the other side?
01:40:55.000What about when a lot of Christians believe that these are actually demons masquerading as the dead, With this whole necromancy situation.
01:41:37.000And, you know, we're just going through right now one of the most incredible times I have ever seen.
01:41:44.000In my years, I've never seen the world so topsy-turvy.
01:41:50.000And my theory is that the globalists are doing everything they can to do this as quickly as they can.
01:41:59.000And the reason why they're under so much stress and pressure to get this done now is because they know we finally know and that we've had enough.
01:42:09.000And we're out to push and push and push.
01:42:19.000George, I want to come back in the next little segment or two that we have with you.
01:42:23.000You've got to go at 40 after or so, because I know you're busy.
01:42:26.000And get into Occupy Wall Street, the globalists, what you think from your deep research and all the experts you've talked to, their master plan is.
01:42:36.000But first, spend a few minutes, because I wanted to get you on this.
01:42:39.000I saw the book had just come out, and you don't like to toot your own horn, but I've read your past books.
01:42:48.000Talking to the Dead is a book that will help people understand what happens to all of us when it's time to chuck out and go to the other side.
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01:48:06.000I've asked them to try to get other domains that tie us and link us straight into Coast2Coast, but you've got to put the T-O in the middle of Coast2Coast.com.
01:48:16.000I've always told people, Alex, make it one of your favorites on your computer so you don't have to type it up all the time.
01:48:47.000Obviously the execs on the big network you're on know that you're talented, Emmy award winning news producer from TV, all this stuff.
01:48:57.000But at the same time, all they've got to do is create a simpler domain that will also point at that one, and I would bet that would probably increase your traffic by 30%.
01:49:27.000I can learn a lot more from you than you can learn from me, but you obviously already know that.
01:49:32.000I want to go to a few calls here in the time we have for you.
01:49:35.000George, is there anything else before I go to calls?
01:49:37.000Because I know you've got a leaf thing that you'd like to add.
01:49:40.000Well, I just want everybody to know, Alex, that even though it seems like we are in the middle of all this mess, I am still extremely positive about the long-term future of America and of its people.
01:49:56.000We're going to go through some incredible times.
01:50:01.000But I still think, in the end, humanity is going to make it.
01:50:05.000And one day, one day, this will be a better place Well, no doubt, things have to get bad before people start to appreciate true freedom again.
01:50:45.000So many family members, Gary and Alex, have gotten together now as a group, as a family, the son, the father, and they start listening to Coast to Coast.
01:50:56.000And it's something that allows them to talk and get closer to each other.
01:51:01.000It's a really great feeling for me to know that this program is touching so many lives, whether it's alternative medicine or conspiracy theories.
01:51:10.000Well, George, you know what Superman's uncle tells him.
01:51:20.000With great power comes great responsibility.
01:51:22.000I've learned the responsibility of having 3 million listeners a day.
01:51:25.000What's it like to have 16 million or more?
01:51:28.000I mean, that is quite a responsibility.
01:51:30.000Alex, I'll let you in on a little secret.
01:51:32.000I broadcast to one person every night.
01:51:35.000And when you do that, when you do that, you touch everybody.
01:53:34.000I don't know what happens to honest politicians when they get into office, but something happens to them, and they begin to do things that are just unbelievable.
01:53:45.000And in this particular case, if the media stays on it, Holder will probably get tossed out as the Attorney General, and who knows what it would do for President Obama's administration.
01:53:58.000Well, George, I've talked to a lot of high-level people.
01:54:00.000What happens is, whatever your fancy is, it shows up with a bow on it, and they just compromise these people.
01:54:06.000Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
01:54:08.000George has got to go here in just a few minutes.
01:54:17.000First of all, I'd like to say that the wife and I go into a prayer of agreement every night and every morning for the protection of the crew, you guys, and Ron Paul's family.
01:55:59.000Well, I'll take a little nap after this and then I'll be ready to go again for another 12-hour day on coast to coast am Last call for George.
01:56:10.000You're on the air Thanks for taking my call.
01:56:14.000I think we're really to a tipping point and to George's point earlier that, you know, people really seem, you know, kind of maybe depressed or just perhaps impotent.
01:56:27.000But I think we're right around the corner politically.
01:56:30.000Once people, because we're reaching a point where the vast majority of people want some of the same changes politically, you know, the vast majority want to end the wars and draw down troops to some level or another.
01:56:41.000to stop the violence on the border, the southwestern border, end the domination of special interests over the government, enforce criminal laws on government agents.
01:56:51.000And as we push back against the elite, they get more and more clownish.
01:56:55.000Do you think we're ready to start identifying where we agree and then just throwing our entire weight behind at least the areas where we agree so we can start getting political effectiveness back in the country?
01:57:11.000I think that's a good final question for George Norrie.
01:57:14.000One of my favorite lines from the movie network from Howard Beale played by the late Peter Finch was, just leave us alone.
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