General Hamid Gul is a retired general who served as Director General of the Inter-Services Intelligence Agency (ISI), Pakistan's premier intelligence agency, between 1987-89. He also served as the head of the Intelligence Service, or Inter- Services Intelligence, or ISI, from 1987-1989. He was involved in the late-stage of the Soviet-Afghan war, and was a frontline tank commander before that in his younger years. He joins us now to discuss the incredible developments unfolding in the Middle East and beyond.
00:01:32.000But our audience listening on XM, AMFM, Shortwave Satellite, Infowars.com is really lucky and blessed to be able to hear from General Hamid Gul.
00:01:45.000He is a retired general who served as Director General of the Inner Service Intelligence, ISI, Pakistani Intelligence, the premier intelligence agency in that country between 87-89, winning the war against the Russians during the late stages of the Soviet-Afghan War.
00:01:59.000He was involved in the whole thing, of course, and was involved in the war with India as a frontline tank commander before that in his younger years.
00:02:06.000And he joins us now, goals tenure as the head of the ISI, considered with Benazir Bhutto's term as the Prime Minister of Pakistan.
00:02:14.000And he joins us now to break down the incredible developments.
00:02:18.000We'll talk more about it in the next segment with the Russians saying they're going to block the roads in from the other side into Afghanistan.
00:02:25.000Pakistan blocking the main supply route into Afghanistan.
00:02:54.000I don't think we are going to go over the brink.
00:02:57.000Pakistan would also, I'm sure, exercise sobriety in the end.
00:03:02.000But it is only a paradigm shift which is needed on part of America which is going to pull us out of this quagmire.
00:03:09.000So we have to wait and see how American policymakers, because they never stop surprising me, they shoot themselves in the foot every now and then.
00:03:19.000And this is an almost critical period.
00:03:22.000They have to pull out from Afghanistan.
00:03:40.000Not because Americans want this to happen to one of their staunchest allies, Pakistan.
00:03:46.000No, not at all, because that is not in their interest.
00:03:49.000But whose interest is being served in this case?
00:03:51.000It's amazing that Americans are paying in blood and money And in their reputation, in all the dreams that Americans have been harboring, they have to pay a huge price simply to satisfy some of those spoiled child children, two of them, mainly Israel, because Israel has brought India on board and so on and so forth.
00:04:15.000So you've got to be very careful that we don't go over the brink.
00:04:19.000General Hamid Gul again is our guest and he's going to be with us for two long segments coming up after this break.
00:04:26.000And we'll recap all of this, General, and get into the incredible developments.
00:04:30.000Why would they attack that Pakistani military base and kill more than 24 people?
00:04:35.000We'll cover that With really the top expert.
00:04:39.000The establishment hates their former ally General Hamid Gul so much they've called him the real head of Al-Qaeda, which of course is a complete fabricated joke.
00:04:47.000We know Al-Qaeda has been given control of Libya and is now attacking Syria and works for the globalists.
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00:08:04.000We are back, ladies and gentlemen, and we've got a very important guest right out of the It is Wednesday, the 30th day of November, 2011.
00:08:26.000And four days ago, today's the fifth day, there was an attack on another Pakistani military base, killing at least 24 people and injuring scores of others.
00:08:40.000Army drones flying around all over the place, killing people in Pakistan, Afghanistan, you name it.
00:08:45.000Total bedlam, an attempt to destabilize the country.
00:08:49.000And General Hamid Gul, former head of the Pakistani ISI, former frontline commander, also in a war with India decades before that, really the mastermind behind beating the Russians, a former big U.S.
00:09:01.000ally, has been called by major publications the real head of al-Qaeda.
00:09:06.000That's just, of course, absolutely asinine.
00:09:09.000And he joins us now to... I mean, we couldn't get any better expert.
00:09:13.000He's one of the main experts over in Pakistan on their national television.
00:09:17.000We couldn't get a better expert who's been there and seen it at every level to break down what's really going on.
00:09:22.000And the times he's joined us in the last four years, he's always given us accurate assessments.
00:09:28.000We're getting the truth from General Gould, something we don't get from our occupied government.
00:09:33.000And so breaking down what this attack means, the supply lines being shut down from Pakistan into Afghanistan, the Russians shutting down supply lines, Russia threatening yesterday to attack Poland.
00:09:46.000They said, you know what, go ahead and move your missiles in.
00:09:58.000Break down what happened with the attack, the incredible anger in Pakistan, the hardening of the line there in Pakistan, why you think this happened, and where it basically brings the world right now.
00:10:12.000Well, we can speculate on this, Alex, and the first hypothesis, as we call it in the military, the first possibility is that they want to extend war into Pakistan because they've been always calling AFPAK Battlefield.
00:10:26.000Now, naturally, they have been using their drones indiscriminately, killing nearly 3,500 people.
00:10:34.000And most of them very innocent people, really.
00:10:36.000There may be just a couple of dozen Al-Qaeda operators there, and low-level operators.
00:10:42.000There were no high-level operators, except one or two.
00:10:45.000The rest of the people were innocent Pakistani women and children, and their cattle and their properties all have been destroyed because of the drone attack.
00:10:54.000But unfortunately, in spite of Pakistan's democratic institution coming out very strongly, unanimously to stop the drone attacks, requesting the Americans to stop them, they never stop them because they don't respect democracy in Pakistan.
00:11:12.000So gradually the democratic institution began to lose their image in the eyes of the people, and army's image is going up as it decides to say, okay, we will confront the Americans if necessary.
00:11:29.000So in fact, it has damaged democracy in Pakistan so much.
00:11:34.000But this particular attack, it was the final nail in the coffin of our relationship.
00:11:43.000That's the first hypothesis that I was saying.
00:11:47.000That they want to extend war into, it would be madness of the first order because that would push Pakistan into the lap of China for all you care, I mean politically, that's the political impact.
00:12:00.000The second case is that Is this war winnable if they open a front towards Pakistan in the 3-4?
00:12:09.000Is it possible at this time when America stands exhausted, their allies, European allies, they want to leave Afghanistan as quickly as possible?
00:12:19.000The economic situation in America is in shambles.
00:12:22.000The market forces are really not being able to pull themselves together.
00:12:28.000So this is a situation, this hypothesis I rule out, that they are prepared to, because if they continue to push this way, Pakistan, against the wall, then Pakistan may well, Alex I'm telling you, may turn out to be China's Israel in the future, and that is not I mean, this is a horrendous scenario which must be avoided.
00:12:55.000The other thing is that, then why have they done this?
00:12:59.000Because if it is ridiculous to come in for an attack at this time, the second hypothesis, and I think my leading hypothesis is that there is a tussle going on between the White House and the Pentagon and the Newcombs and the lobbyists of Israel and India.
00:13:18.000They are somehow, they are pissed against the withdrawal and particularly quick withdrawal.
00:13:25.000They want America to hang on, pay in blood and money.
00:13:28.000And there is another element which is very interesting.
00:13:36.000100,000 and 5,000 more, I mean 105,000 security contractors are now making hay in Afghanistan because there's so much money unaccounted for which goes into their pockets.
00:13:59.000These old cronies of the serving generals are now really into—their hand is in the tail, and they are making immeasurably amount of money.
00:14:11.000And there is another group, and these are security contractors also.
00:14:15.000They are in cahoots with the smugglers, the drug traffickers.
00:14:20.000And last year, the volume of opium produced in Afghanistan was 6,500 tons, which was down to 50 tons in the last year of Taliban rule in Afghanistan.
00:14:34.000So these 6,500 tons of opium on the open market would fetch something like, as a raw opium, it would fetch something like $5 billion.
00:14:44.000Now, this is a huge amount of money, but I am surprised that there has been no halt because Pakistan has been traditionally the narcotic route towards Karachi and beyond.
00:14:57.000But for the last six, seven years, There has been no big haul in Pakistan.
00:15:14.000General, General, let me stop you there.
00:15:18.000Because you obviously don't see a lot of US television.
00:15:20.000You can just type in US troops protect Uh, poppies or protect opium into YouTube or Google, you will get BBC, CBS, ABC, and they just show the reporters going, in a new policy, and this is the last five years, we help grow it.
00:15:40.000So, they're publicly, I'm not kidding, I know it's crazy, they ship it here and then when they catch people using it they throw them in prisons owned by the very banks that launder the drug money.
00:15:51.000So it's a new level of drug dealing where they actually, the drug dealers actually put you in their prisons.
00:16:00.000It's about the hundreds of billions of street value a year, as you said, 90% of opium production.
00:16:04.000But where is it going now that they've attacked this base, now that the Russians are doing this?
00:16:11.000Where do you see the situation in Afghanistan going as resistance mounts as we go into the 11th year coming up?
00:16:21.000Yes, now this is a very precarious situation and I said that China has also come out strongly in favour of Pakistan and I described to you that China over time may become to Pakistan like America is to Israel.
00:16:38.000So, Pakistan will have no choice than to come under the umbrella of China.
00:16:44.000And China, obviously, is not disinterested with the amount of money they have, and they're flexing their muscles here and there.
00:16:50.000And this would keep India on the wrong side of history, because India is being backed by America, and America is losing the war, they're losing their image, and they are being threatened from now all directions.
00:17:02.000I think, look at the timing in which they have attacked Pakistan.
00:17:07.000It means they have hurt themselves more than anyone can hurt them.
00:17:11.000But at a time when 10,000 troops were to be withdrawn by 31st of December.
00:17:29.000And now it was born, and born is no go without Pakistan's participation.
00:17:35.000So the net result is that you have lost so much diplomatically, politically.
00:17:40.000Already economic loss is very much staring you in the eyes.
00:17:45.000And now you are strategically beginning to lose.
00:17:48.000So this is a very difficult situation for America today.
00:17:52.000I think if they don't set their bearings right, it is going to hurt them a lot more than it appears at the moment.
00:17:58.000But let me stop you, General, because, look, I mean, I know you're sophisticated and the Pakistani people are sophisticated, but we have been seized by the big six megabanks.
00:18:08.000They are imploding Europe and bragging that Goldman Sachs, the main Federal Reserve owner, has conquered Europe through fraud.
00:18:18.000They are setting up checkpoints in America.
00:18:21.000They are saying they can arrest us, torture us, publicly now.
00:18:25.000I mean, this is some of the most brazen tyranny ever seen.
00:18:30.000being publicly announced like it's no big deal so clearly the folks in Pakistan need to know America has been seized by a global criminal interest that wants to destroy America's name that wants to destroy Pakistan and I don't know how worldwide we fight such a threat that works through hijacked nations playing them off against each other.
00:18:52.000Yeah, Alex, the tenacitor element, the dark element in American society, which is deep into it, they have gotten control and clout over all the policymaking, is somehow now so strong, you may have to fight for your freedom afresh.
00:19:09.000So, it is amazing that such a lot of things are happening, and the American people are still not—there is no movement like moratorium way back in the days of President Nixon.
00:19:24.000The people of America have to rise against their own policies, against these coercive elements which are trying to destroy the American dream.
00:19:32.000They are trying to destroy everything.
00:19:34.000They are trying to somehow rail against their own best friends in the world.
00:20:13.000We generally know who is there, but this confederation of, I would say, thugs and swindlers, cheats, this is now getting the upper hand, unfortunately, and they are, as you very rightly said, they're destroying America and they're destroying the world.
00:20:33.000The main financial advisor to Obama is Corzine, the former governor of New Jersey, the former head of Goldman Sachs.
00:20:39.000He made a 40-to-1 bet with MF Global money just to show the reckless psychology of these people.
00:20:45.000And when it didn't go well, the government allowed him to take private bank accounts and brokerage accounts of people in sub-companies that MF Global had bought.
00:20:57.000The news admits It's illegal, but the government's going to let them do this.
00:21:01.000I mean, that's what's scary is that when you realize these swindlers and bank fraud people that run everything, they don't know military tactics.
00:21:35.000But look at the character of the generals at this time who are in office, in charge at this moment in Afghanistan.
00:21:42.000If they play along with these elements, as I described, the dark elements, the sinister elements within the American policymaking body, then I think they are not being loyal to their own country.
00:22:31.000I mean really when you study psychology, you study history, as a general, as a former head of a famous intelligence agency who was very successful defeating the KGB, NKVD, the Russian military, all of them, you have to know the enemy.
00:22:44.000So looking at your enemy, the global megabanks, my enemy, the global megabanks, this global corporate globalism, they do want to destroy America while using us to carry out the next phase of their operation.
00:22:55.000They've moved our industry to China, so it is part of a larger double-cross.
00:23:00.000They're gonna implode America just like Europe next, but they want a war in the middle of that.
00:23:05.000Knowing the enemy, and that's the key as you know to winning a war and having supply lines, you know, those two paramount peaks together, those twin peaks, What concerns me, General, is now I see delusion in the elite.
00:23:20.000There's still a strategy, and I see the gambits, but it doesn't make sense in the end.
00:23:26.000Even if command destruction, order out of chaos, is their overall excuse, it isn't going to work.
00:23:33.000I mean, the Russians now are threatening to start attacking countries.
00:23:37.000And history shows the Russians will do things like that.
00:24:00.000There is a fear in Israel, there is fear in India that if the Americans leave and Americans, they will be standing absolutely perched on the wrong side of history.
00:24:10.000And as far as the banks are concerned, and corrupt corporate America, corrupt corporate Europe, The corporate world is despicable.
00:24:19.000Now this really, it is tantamount to, virtually, if you translate it, it's spirit.
00:24:38.000It is important that America survives.
00:24:41.000Then these elements have to be cut out.
00:24:44.000There has to be surgical operation against them.
00:24:48.000Well, they're certainly waging war against free humanity and every basic liberty and overthrowing the entire Bill of Rights and Constitution right now.
00:24:57.000But I guess in the final equation, General, the good news is everything that they're touching is turning to garbage.
00:25:40.000I mean, it looks like a bungle, but could the strategy be try to create political discord to destabilize the government of Pakistan as a desperate fleeing forward to start a new war with Pakistan?
00:25:56.000Because they've done this, what, three or four times now in the last year, killing Pakistani troops, correct?
00:26:02.000My dear Alex, if this was the design, then I think it has failed miserably because it has put the Pakistani government and Pakistan Armed Forces on the same page.
00:26:14.000If there was any daylight, on account of this famous memo that was written by Hussain Attani, our ambassador in America, There was a daylight between the armed forces, the establishment, and the political government, but that is gone now.
00:26:32.000With this one act, the Americans have really brought the whole nation, alerted them, everybody's out on the streets, people are shouting against America, there was already no love lost for American policies, but now I think it has really crossed all limits.
00:26:49.000In closing, what's your view on an Iran strike?
00:26:52.000Israel's moving their Jericho missiles into firing position.
00:28:19.000He has got to be reined in for the love of this world, for the love of freedom, for the love of people of America and the rest of the world.
00:28:28.000Well, if everybody, even in the establishment, is smart enough to tell him not to do this, Well, we do know there's covert bombings going on against the facilities right now in Iran.
00:28:42.000What's your view on Iran just taking this?
00:28:46.000No, Iran is showing restraint, and I think it's just as well, but I was in Iran only a month back, and I found that the nation is unperturbed about all the threats which are being dished out to them.
00:29:02.000They are united, and whatever there was a little fissure politically in the society, That immediately has disappeared after the threat from Israel and they have closed their ranks.
00:29:15.000Now they are even more united than before.
00:29:24.000I really, for the sake of humanity and for the future of mankind, I hope this never happens.
00:29:30.000All right, General Hamid Gul, thank you so much for spending time with us.
00:29:33.000Hopefully, you can update us as big developments take place, and I hope we can all have peace and friendship worldwide between Americans and Pakistanis.
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00:33:59.000Thank you so much for joining us today.
00:34:02.000We've got Mankal Muller, Eric Mankal Muller, syndicated radio host, joining us for the first 20 minutes of the next hour.
00:34:09.000Then Lyndon LaRouche is joining us, and then we'll have open phones for large portions of the third hour today.
00:34:16.000In fact, I'll probably even try to take some calls while Len LaRouche is on with us if you have any economic questions.
00:34:22.000Again, I don't endorse some of LaRouche's solutions, but his analysis of who runs the world, the eugenics, population control program, they were one of the first groups 30 years ago to accurately track exactly what was going on.
00:34:37.000And I'd read their stuff 16, 17 years ago and go, oh, this isn't true.
00:34:41.000And I separately, doing my own original research, found that they were telling the truth.
00:34:47.000And it's, again, some people go to Disney World and say, I discovered Disney World.
00:34:51.000You know, you discover it for yourself.
00:34:52.000I'm not even saying I found original stuff.
00:34:54.000I'm saying I went out separately and kept running in to this information.
00:35:05.000And of course, LaRouche was also advisor to Ronald Reagan, of all people, and was the CIA director, called him the best private intelligence analyst and all the stuff in the Washington Post.
00:35:15.000And boy, the government, George, Herbert Walker Bush got jealous and they threw his butt in prison.
00:35:22.000Now we've got a bunch of reports coming in.
00:35:23.000Foreclosure fraud whistleblower has been found dead, MSNBC.
00:35:28.000Uh, is reporting just incredible information on that front.
00:35:34.000Radiation risks are severely underestimated.
00:35:37.000Uh, no kidding, we're going to be getting into all of that.
00:35:41.000We've got incredible federal orders now, basically following the orders of Herr Lieberman, uh, to extrajudicially start delisting anti-government, quote, Uh, terror-supporting websites off the web, just delisting them so you can't find it.
00:35:59.000Uh, we're already been delisted from Google News, InfoWars.com and PrisonPanda.com in the last year.
00:36:05.000Uh, they've moved us down in the rankings even though we're number one.
00:36:09.000Uh, they're doing everything they can, but now there's government announcements that they're ordering that hold databases of terms they give Google be delisted.
00:36:20.000And this is kind of an a la carte internet kill switch.
00:36:23.000I've got that in the news that I'm going to raise with Man Cow and some other issues coming up in the next hour.
00:36:28.000But just huge developments that are taking place right now.
00:36:33.000That's why, more than ever, you've got to get the URL of InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com out to everybody you can.
00:36:41.000Spray paint it on the side of your business.
00:36:44.000Uh, spray paint it on your billboard or the side of your barn if it's your property.
00:36:49.000Uh, you know, we don't say write it on bathroom stalls over the cuss words.
00:36:53.000You don't want to censor the cuss words.
00:36:55.000I'm not saying if there's some globalist homeland security, uh, billboard to climb upon it and spray paint it.
00:37:02.000We should let them have a Trader's Senate who says they're allowed to insider trade and be public criminals, pass laws saying citizens can be arrested, held forever, tortured, killed, whatever.
00:37:21.000The point is, is that they're slowly accelerating their program and now they're getting pretty much to a jog now of censorship and control, blotting out thousands of domains a month.
00:37:40.000In fact, it's now in the news, Bloomberg, Fed lowers interest rate on dollar swaps.
00:37:47.000And if you look at this, it's basically just more free taxpayer money to the European Central Bank, which is really the same shareholders of the Federal Reserve.
00:37:57.000So it's just one hand giving it to the other hand.
00:37:59.000But the hands are attached to the same system.
00:38:03.000Fed lowers interest rate on dollar swaps.
00:38:07.000Six central banks, led by the Federal Reserve, lowered the cost of emergency dollar funding for financial companies in a global effort to ease Europe's sovereign debt crisis.
00:38:16.000And that sent the markets up, and then a week from now they'll be back down.
00:38:19.000They'll be, give us another giant bailout!
00:38:22.000And the markets will go up, and then, oh, they went down a new crisis.
00:38:26.000As they take over every country and say, we'll fix your economy for a few weeks, If you just give us total sovereignty and promise to raise all your taxes to pay to the private banks who actually engineered the fraud.
00:38:41.000I mean, it's that brazen, it's that naked.
00:39:40.000They list mainline libertarian websites like antiwar.com, they list the Oklahoma City Bombing Investigative Committee headed up by State Rep.
00:39:49.000Charles Key, and it's got the former head of the Grand Jury, Hoppy Heidelberg, and victims and families, members of victims of Oklahoma City, who are there.
00:40:00.000So I'm saying, hey, we've got the footage of the bombs in the building on local news.
00:40:03.000We've got police saying there were bombs.
00:40:05.000We've got the ATF showing up minutes after, dressed up in bomb gear.
00:40:09.000We've got the witnesses in the building saying they saw feds planting big gray sticks of butter who they said were telephone men the day before.
00:40:18.000You know, we've got all these federal memos that have been leaked and lawsuits that have gotten the four-year request that show the government was involved and the FBI head of counterterrorism was there that day.
00:41:24.000On the nightly news last night, I played this clip and I played other senators admitting that yes, it's for U.S.
00:41:31.000citizens, including John McCain, and I want to get to that in a few minutes, and then Dew is converting the clips from last night's show, I forgot to tell him, so I can play them here.
00:41:40.000He's transferring them off that computer system over to this system.
00:41:43.000I don't know the files they have over there don't play over here.
00:41:45.000So we're waiting on those so that I can play you the clips that we put together for the nightly news last night of all these senators going, yes, this legislation does allow the secret arrest and permanent detention of Americans with no judge, no jury, no nothing.
00:43:03.000Which I've got to say is good, but remember when they tried to give him this power last year, he said, well, I can still have secret arrest and kill American citizens abroad or domestically.
00:43:12.000I don't need Congress to pass this law.
00:43:49.000Of course, he's actually just a minion.
00:43:51.000Came out Rahm Emanuel, cracks his knuckles in meetings, bosses Obama around, verbally slaps him around, and of course Emanuel himself is a puppet.
00:44:59.000The first president to chair the council.
00:45:05.000And, I mean, they had tears in their eyes.
00:45:07.000The level of squatting on us, and spitting in our face, and dragging us through the mud, and now they've introduced new legislation to openly say unlimited torture.
00:45:23.000For false confessions, terror, fear, they already have had federal and state courts rule.
00:45:28.000Police can taser you to make you answer questions.
00:45:31.000I thought there was a Fifth Amendment.
00:45:33.000No, you can actually type into the search engine.
00:46:18.000They're going to start taking the bank accounts, they're going to start grabbing more of your kids, they're going to unloose every evil force you can imagine.
00:46:25.000Forced abortions, all of it coming to America.
00:46:32.000Oh, well, if you're on welfare, because they've created this meme of these lazy welfare people having kids, it's like, oh, you get to have welfare, but now you have to have an abortion.
00:46:40.000Or, oh, this child was 70 pounds overweight, you know, he was 200 pounds in the third grade, doesn't matter, his dad's, you know, 6 foot 5 and stocky, sure, he's a little overweight, we're going to go ahead and take your child and put him on an amphetamine and basically burn out their brain and heart to make them lose, you know, 80 pounds or whatever.
00:47:01.000And then next, you read the guidelines of your child's 1% over body weight, they're going to take them.
00:47:46.000They manifest black uniforms, bloodletting, war, sacrifice, death, because for the 1% who are psychopaths, it is beautiful.
00:47:59.000And they want it, so they're gonna get it.
00:48:02.000Now, before I get to the latest on this, let me just play a short clip when I was on RT yesterday, and some people said, Alex, you got upset towards the end of the clip.
00:49:46.000So why don't I play something for you from one of the bill's backers, Senator Lindsey Graham from South Carolina.
00:49:51.000This is what he said on the Senate floor a few weeks ago.
00:49:56.0001032, the military custody provision, which has waivers and a lot of flexibility, doesn't apply to American citizens.
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00:50:17.000And I've got McCain admitting it and others admitting it.
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00:53:46.000866-404-3663 That's 866-404-FOOD Okay, so I just played you Lindsey Graham playing his so I just played you Lindsey Graham playing his little lawyer game with you, Mr. Carbon Tax.
00:54:19.000I just played you the clip, and later I'm going to play some of the other clips where McCain and others admit it's for U.S.
00:54:25.000But notice, this was always there, but when they wanted to get it passed and they didn't want opposition to mount, they came out last week and said it wasn't in there, some of the Republican and Democratic leadership, and they had operatives online in a disinformation campaign.
00:54:41.000Most of them paid bloggers and Pentagon people.
00:54:44.000And they've got a script, they go follow it, they say this isn't true.
00:54:47.000Just to make the debate about whether it's true or not, so that people don't then have a debate about, do we want to be secretly arrested and disappear forever and be tortured?
00:54:57.000Now, they're going ahead with torture, and of course they denied torture at first, then it came out the White House ordered it, so they went ahead and burned some of their own minions in all of this.
00:55:10.000And now the Senate's considering Bill authorizing more torture.
00:55:15.000And the law enforcement magazines we've shown you actually create situational ethics, and then the TV shows do as well, part of the brainwashing, where you torture people's kids, which did go on at Abu Ghraib.
00:55:26.000If they can get the security services to torture kids, they got them.
00:55:30.000And, of course, it turned out they hired a lot of former federal prison guards and others who'd been caught raping people and stuff, and that's who they are.
00:55:36.000In fact, it's in the news today, TSA whistleblower, feds covered up sexual assault.
00:55:41.000And it gets into, they're not just raping the public.
00:55:45.000in those back rooms or on the street in their uniform or on the parking lot of the airports and they flash their badge and just say, I have a, they've been quoted as saying, I have a administrative privilege.
00:56:46.000You must be the most pathetic creature in the galaxy to want to have this cowardly job where you can exercise petty power all day on real humans.
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01:00:28.000I want to draw something here for you.
01:00:30.000We're going to Mancow here in a moment.
01:00:31.000Go back to the Federal Reserve takeover of America in 1913.
01:00:34.000They still had to federalize everything, get us in debt.
01:00:37.000Pyrrhony generally grows very, very, very slowly in history.
01:00:44.000But when it reaches a critical mass, It starts going straight up, and that's basically what's happening.
01:00:51.000Fresh on the heels of passing in the Senate, indefinite detention, no judge, no jury, by the military, the in-deposit commentatus operating in the streets of America.
01:01:01.000They've already been gearing up for this for a long time, but this is ahead of the controlled financial collapse.
01:01:05.000They now are coming out and saying, we'll just torture citizens, anybody we want, we'll rip your teeth out, everything.
01:01:11.000We're just going to make it legal for the government to torture the living daylights out of you.
01:04:13.000All these fouls, oh, no, no, radical Islam has, where did they all go?
01:04:18.000Look, our government wants the radicals to have these missiles.
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01:08:11.000I wanted to get his take on the Republican field, on what's happening in the global economy, on problem reaction solution, on the feds now ordering delisting of websites on Google.
01:08:29.000We learned that the government shipped the guns directly into Mexico and into Indiana, Illinois, Florida to drug gangs they like to knock out other drug gangs.
01:08:40.000It's been confirmed that they lied to Congress.
01:08:42.000And now it's just gone off the radar screen.
01:08:45.000There's a great example A problem reaction solution or a false flag terror attack.
01:08:51.000If shipping tens of thousands of guns in that killed thousands of Mexicans, hundreds of Americans, and at least three police officers and border patrol, if that's not a false flag terror attack, I mean, if they'll do that, why wouldn't they do Oklahoma City?
01:09:03.000This same Attorney General was the Deputy Attorney General with his hands deep in Oklahoma City 16, 17 years ago.
01:09:14.000here I'm gonna I'm gonna go way off course and I'm gonna bring it home okay but stick with me I interviewed a doctor today I spoke with a doctor and he's going to be on this weed wars TV show it debuts tomorrow night on Discovery I I don't care whether anyone watches it or not and he did studies on marijuana and basically whether you're pro weed or not why we have this war on tip you know this war on everything the drug wars cost us a lot of money I
01:09:41.000I mean, I had a kid, a 17-year-old kid in front of my house, he got pulled over, they found a seed, the government took his car, he said, hey man, it's a used car!
01:09:50.000They found a seed, a single marijuana seed, and they sold his car.
01:09:56.000Our government loves finding some kid with a little bit of weed, half a joint, a roach, something, so they can take your property and sell it and then get the money.
01:10:22.000Now, every time they try to do an anti-gun study, if they're intellectually honest, they cannot prove that more guns equals more crime or anything.
01:10:33.000Well, that Illinois professor got caught lying to give the only anti-gun study ever and it turned out it was fake and he lost his tenure.
01:11:06.000Look at the most liberal states with the most gun laws!
01:11:09.000But if you're that old man in Chicago, I see all these videos where they beat up old people, blood everywhere, and the cops do nothing about it.
01:11:17.000Well, apparently when white people are beaten up in Chicago, because they're white, and I think every crime is a hate crime, you know, every crime is a hate crime, but if you're whitey in Chicago, that isn't a hate crime.
01:11:29.000Anyway, the point I'm making is, Alex, you and I disagree.
01:11:35.000I believe Fast and Furious was so good.
01:12:45.000Newt Gingrich supported NAFTA, GATT, the banker bailout, carbon taxes.
01:12:50.000He wrote creepy forwards to Toffler's book where he calls for global government into the family.
01:12:56.000Uh, you've got Mitt Romney, just as creepy, pro-abortion, anti-gun, amnesty city, wrote Obamacare, and I, and I forget some, I mean, there's so much.
01:13:06.000Uh, and then now these two are dueling with each other.
01:13:08.000In fact, we got a document cam shot in here.
01:15:40.000Now listen, a lot of people say, this can't happen here.
01:15:44.000But now they're coming out saying, let's censor the internet, let's censor people we want, let's censor talk radio, let's have the government order Google to delist sites, let's have TSA on the streets, and now they've passed the bill, now they've got to implement it.
01:15:59.000And of course they'll pick examples of really bad sounding people, so it sounds reasonable to secretly arrest citizens.
01:19:09.000I mean, look, the people around Hitler, The people around Hitler admitted they could have never had, it could have never happened with a newspaper.
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01:24:39.000His work, of course, has been called by former heads of the National Security Council and others as, quote, the best private intelligence network out there.
01:24:46.000I don't say I agree with all of their solutions, perhaps because I don't Grasp it all.
01:24:51.000But I know their historical analysis is spot on.
01:26:12.000forces in the eastern Mediterranean and in the Persian Gulf regions, especially naval forces in particular, are positioned for launching a thermonuclear war.
01:26:23.000The name of the game, of course, is what we're going to do to Syria, what we're going to do to Iran.
01:26:29.000But if you look at the forces in the area, that makes no sense.
01:26:32.000Then you look at other aspects of it, and you know that Russia's in on the thing, in defending Syria in particular, against this atrocity.
01:26:45.000And you realize that we're on the edge of actually going to throw a milky way.
01:26:49.000What happened was, of course, and I don't know how well this is known, but our leading general officers, our advisors and so forth, who advise us on our security, have opposed any action by Obama of this type.
01:27:05.000That is, therefore, that is in that degree tied up.
01:27:09.000But, what's hanging out there is at any moment a war could start.
01:27:15.000Now, this war will be a war with thermonuclear weapons.
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01:33:37.000Ladies and gentlemen, we told you the Euro was going to start breaking up in a controlled implosion into a new mega-bank of the world run by Goldman Sachs.
01:33:46.000Now the news, from Time Magazine to Financial Times of London calls it, Goldman Sachs conquers the world.
01:36:58.000But that's not enough money to start a recovery and we need now an actual physical recovery because we have people, our people are going to start dying massively.
01:37:07.000You look at the food supply for the United States going into the months ahead.
01:37:12.000Think about March and April at the present rate.
01:37:15.000We're going to have people dying of hunger and effects correlated to that in the United States.
01:37:21.000So therefore we need an immediate reform We understand, I do, and I guess some other people as well do.
01:37:42.000But the other thing we have to do is we have to go back, since we don't have a Federal Reserve System anymore, it's bankrupt, it's hopelessly bankrupt.
01:37:49.000We therefore have to go back to Hamilton's original policy, which was U.S.
01:39:04.000Under Homeland Security, they're arresting the occupiers nationwide as a giant simulation of political arrest.
01:39:11.000As you know, they passed the bill to secretly arrest U.S.
01:39:15.000us citizens and have you just disappear no one even knows where you go literal you know the disappearances like the Khmer Rouge or something I mean am I right in saying they're going into hyperwarp and they've made the decision to go ahead and start wars and have a classic police state and and they're going forward I mean, it's just come out that Henry Paulson, we already knew this, gave hedge funds inside information on Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae when he was Treasury Secretary.
01:39:49.000If the American people have the guts to do so, and the temperament and their direction is strong right now, as you probably know, that if you move this President, Obama, out of office, On the basis of his charge that he's insane.
01:40:04.000That's under the 25th Amendment, Section 4.
01:40:07.000He qualifies for expulsion from the presidency on the basis of that.
01:40:12.000Also, at the same time, you've got other things.
01:40:15.000He's also committed crimes against the Constitution.
01:40:24.000Many of his so-called laws are violations of the Constitution.
01:40:28.000The attempt to prevent the Congress, members of the Congress, from appealing what was a fraud against the government in this war in Libya is typical.
01:40:40.000What people have to have the guts to do.
01:40:43.000Many people realize that Obama has to be out of office.
01:40:46.000What they're not realizing is he has to be out of office now.
01:40:51.000And there are two ways to get him out.
01:41:12.000Lift him out of the presidency, and I can guarantee you, A lot of things will change very quickly.
01:41:20.000Sure, and of course he is spoiled milk.
01:41:24.000I mean, he politically now has a lower approval rating than Richard Nixon at the bottom, and of course Jimmy Carter, but the Corzines and the Robert Rubins and the people behind him, they don't care.
01:41:37.000They're going ahead with this Homicidal eluding of the system.
01:41:45.000So my question is, I agree with your solutions on that front.
01:42:07.000The head of the CFTC's invested with him and just says we're going to allow it.
01:42:11.000I mean, they're entering a psycho land.
01:42:13.000Will they be allowed to just steal and destroy everything is my question.
01:42:17.000I mean, what does MF Global... You've got one vulnerability has come to one point.
01:42:23.000Right now, a few people with the guts in the world can sink the whole thing immediately and there are solutions.
01:42:33.000But the key thing here now, one thing, if you do this, one thing, you're going to uncork everything and give a chance to the United States and other nations to survive.
01:42:44.000That one thing is get this president out of office now!
01:42:49.000If you don't get him out now, you're probably going to have thermonuclear war, from which very few people will survive.
01:43:44.000The complications of how this was pulled, but mainly it was British money, and British drug money, which was the big factor in flooding him into the presidency.
01:43:55.000Actually, on the basis of counting the votes in one way, on the Democratic side, he lost the Democratic nomination, in fact.
01:44:05.000But because of a special feature, the way the thing was run, he was put in as the nominee.
01:44:20.000I can guarantee you personally that getting rid of Obama in this way, in this time, and you'll save the United States.
01:44:28.000If you don't do this, if you don't get Obama out now, in this time, when the legal basis for doing so exists very clearly, then you're not going to save the United States.
01:44:38.000No, but explain to me the chain reaction.
01:44:40.000What is that vacuum if this puppet of the corrupt elements of Wall Street and finance capital, if he was removed for all the Fast and Furious, the illegal wars, you know, the mafia stuff, the list goes on and on.
01:45:07.000If you take away, take out of his hands, the powers of the President, at that instant, you're going to get a sudden change in the United States.
01:45:19.000Because the people in the United States are ready for it.
01:45:21.000The problem is, many of them don't have the guts to do what they should do okay what do we do to get obama out of there because then we get a biden i mean what's let's say obama you know for corruption charges whatever went bye-bye what happens no you have to remove obama because he's a dictator you move the dictator and you don't have to worry about these other problems so much the american people given the choice now and the choice is take obama out of the picture
01:45:50.000So you're saying it's that symbolic symbol of the puppet would-be dictator removed, will send shockwaves through the structure, there won't be that executive fear factor, it'll be seen as a blow, a vote against the direction we're going, and will automatically steer energy towards other solutions.
01:46:06.000It will also cause elements of the government, and key parts of the government, To take the action that's needed.
01:46:14.000And they have, with Obama out, not in the White House, not empowered in the White House, those other elements of our federal government, which I know will act in an appropriate way to end this nonsense.
01:46:30.000That does not mean we're going to have everything solved automatically, but we're going to have the power of the decision to decide what is done, given back to the American people.
01:46:50.000They're not mobilized in their mind as to know how to act.
01:46:54.000We have to put in their hands the means to act.
01:46:57.000And once they realize we've given them the means to act, and made some suggestions of what the measures are that have to be dealt with in order to bring this about, I can guarantee you, if I weren't as old as I am, I'd be running for president on the basis of filling in the absent term of Obama.
01:47:19.000Now expanding on this, looking at what's currently happening.
01:47:24.000I know you have amazing sources in government, the military, you name it.
01:47:27.000That's been admitted by the Washington Post and others.
01:47:30.000I mean, again, former head of the National Security Council said you have the best private intelligence network out there.
01:47:34.000And I'm getting, through my feelers, the same things you're getting.
01:47:38.000And a lot of it, of course, months later manifests in the mainstream news.
01:47:41.000So there's major credibility here from my position, your position, our research, our history of giving people factual information.
01:47:48.000People can debate our analysis of the info, but the info stands on its own.
01:47:54.000You say you're being told that the military has already said no to launching this new World War III that so many Obama advisers have asked him to launch so that... Well, the relevant evidence... elements entered the U.S.
01:49:21.000You're saying your military sources are telling you there's already been internal, basically, rebellions against launching these new attacks.
01:49:33.000There is a special group of people who have the authority to put their voice in and to say whether a war should be launched or not.
01:49:43.000As long as the chance is there, as long as we're not attacked.
01:49:47.000And now the point is, if this president is in charge, he is going to pull the strings under British orders.
01:49:55.000It's going to be British orders, but it's going to be American muscle.
01:49:58.000We have the greatest concentration of thermonuclear warfare capability stationed in the Eastern Mediterranean.
01:50:20.000And by the way, it's admitted, especially in the foreign press, the Russians are buzzing around like an anthill that's been disturbed right now on total defense alert.
01:50:30.000Let's come back and talk about this straight ahead.
01:50:32.000And Russia's saying, you move the missiles, we know you've moved in, into Poland, we're going to go ahead and attack.
01:50:39.000So, I mean, it's just total Red alert right now, and it's because the banksters are making their move.
01:50:46.000They're making their move, and they are completely crazy.
01:50:48.000It's like Max Keiser says, they're suicide bankers.
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01:56:28.000Actually, since the time when I was launching what became known as the STI, And the SDI principle, even though the circumstances are modified today, by time, nonetheless, the same principle is crucial.
01:56:42.000There can be no major war on this planet that is involving major powers, which does not lead to thermonuclear war.
01:56:51.000In other words, with Libya, you came up to the edge of it.
01:56:57.000But it was already the potential back in the 1970s when I first got on doing this thing on the SDI program.
01:57:07.000Because it was impossible to fight major war with major powers involved that would not lead to thermonuclear war.
01:57:17.000That's been the state of affairs since the 1970s.
01:57:20.000Well, Cheney tried to do it through NATO with the Russians in 2008.
01:57:24.000The Russians just rolled mobile nukes in and said, and the head of their Joint Chiefs went on TV and said, we're preparing to launch nukes on your forces.
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02:00:09.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
02:00:13.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:00:18.000I want people to understand that I genuinely believe what I'm talking about here.
02:00:22.000And we've predicted and told you everything that's coming.
02:00:25.000And no amount of trillions of dollars pumped into Europe will stop the rivetous black hole.
02:00:30.000The banksters know that and they think they can pose and use the controlled media to come out on top and be our saviors in the crisis they created.
02:00:40.000And in all these public papers they put out, they say, Obama needs a new Oklahoma City to blame on people.
02:01:05.000Well, look at the history of the United States.
02:01:07.000And it actually started in 1620, when some people from England and from probably the Netherlands as well, came over to Massachusetts and set into motion what was initially the Pilgrim Landing, but then was the Massachusetts Bay Colony.
02:01:27.000Now the Massachusetts Bay Colony was crushed with the By the British, at a certain point.
02:01:37.000We continued to develop a United States.
02:01:39.000We imported people from Europe and so forth into what became the United States.
02:01:44.000And we continued from 1620 on through the securing of our freedom, our constitutional freedom.
02:01:51.000We continued as an alternative to Britain, to the British Empire, which had become an empire in that period.
02:02:00.000So we were the English-speaking, we drew people from all over Europe at first.
02:02:05.000And then later we drew from Asia as well in the later part of the period, going into the 20th century.
02:02:11.000We created in the United States the greatest movement for freedom that mankind has ever known, for the greatest duration, against what was still going on in Europe.
02:02:25.000It wasn't that the Europeans lacked a culture, a European culture, but they lacked an effective culture because their system of government was dominated by the British Empire ever since 1763.
02:02:36.000The British Empire has dominated Europe, with a few brief exceptions, through the entire period.
02:03:55.000Because we are committed to a principle which lives on after we die.
02:04:00.000And those of us in the United States who still believe and stand by that principle, which we embedded and expressed in our Constitution, still exists.
02:04:09.000The problem is, other people become confused.
02:04:15.000They're doubtful of their ability to intervene.
02:04:18.000When we make a decision, like as I propose we must make in the United States now, throw this bum out, I guarantee you, you will get a surge of response from our American people in a very large number.
02:04:33.000We'll look at this as a sign of relief.
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02:06:56.000When you're out on the road, the last place you want to be is on the road.
02:07:03.000But if the unfortunate happens, you'll be glad you were wearing diamond gussets.
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02:08:28.000You know, I really wish this stuff wasn't true or real.
02:08:35.000I mean, I can't think about anything but the financial situation, the dollar devaluation, the depression, all the numbers coming out, a design depression, a bunch of control freaks waging war against our society, command destruction.
02:08:55.000Helene LaRouche was talking about the American system versus this imperial, crony, centralized, neo-feudal system.
02:09:05.000And the whole eugenics situation, this anti-human movement.
02:09:11.000And there's no doubt they're barreling towards megabanks owning Europe and all their sovereignty transferred to it.
02:09:21.000And they call it a United States of Europe as a sick joke as if a financial tyranny is the United States model?
02:09:28.000It's like calling the Patriot Act patriotic.
02:09:31.000Lyndon LaRouche, I wanted to ask you about the bill that was passed last night that says the government, the military, can operate in America and arrest citizens and hold them without trial for no reason.
02:09:45.000And I played clips earlier of Lindsey Graham, the sponsor of it, admitting that.
02:09:51.000And then Obama plays this cheeky game of saying, well, I'm not going to sign it.
02:09:55.000That's because last year he said, I can hold citizens and use the army.
02:10:20.000You've talked about solutions and different systems.
02:10:23.000If they continue, if this group continues...
02:10:28.000If we don't act now, we're going to find we're in a thermonuclear war.
02:10:32.000the nouveau riche no room for intellectuals no room for any science they want a post-industrial world a neo-fuel model as you said the british eugenics model what is going to happen to our country what what are we going to see in the short and then mid and long term if we don't act now we're going to find we're in a thermonuclear war is going to happen if we don't act now to get this president out of office
02:10:59.000If you don't pull this President out of office, you're going to have a thermonuclear war.
02:11:04.000Now, if we don't have him out of office, don't worry about anything, you're all going to be dead anyway.
02:11:09.000The British policy, and they said it, the British Royal Family, the extended family, the whole blue-blooded crowd, have said repeatedly, they are now committed to the immediate objective I'm reducing the world's population from seven billion people to one or less.
02:11:29.000That is the policy of the British monarchy.
02:11:33.000The British monarchy controls all of Europe from the Atlantic into Central Europe.
02:11:45.000They control the forces that are being, including our stupid forces themselves, who are working under Obama's direction, under British direction, for a war in the Middle East.
02:11:55.000And it will be a thermonuclear war, because it will not be limited to Iran, it will not be limited to Syria.
02:12:06.000Look at the amount of force, look at the thermonuclear and related capability of the U.S.
02:12:11.000and augmented forces from Europe and so forth, which are deployed in the Gulf of, you know, Iran, and in the eastern part of the Mediterranean.
02:12:25.000That war is not limited to Syria and to Iran.
02:12:30.000That war, once it starts, as the Russian deployment shows you, that war, when it starts, will be a thermonuclear war, as the President of Russia, in certain terms, have warned the world in the past two days.
02:13:33.000But they don't think they have the authority or the backing for someone to clean the mess up.
02:13:40.000And we all, we have in our terms of responsible people in the Senate, in the houses of Congress, in parties in part, they all in a sense more or less will agree on some things.
02:13:53.000But they hesitate to take on throwing out a president who should be thrown out.
02:13:58.000If somebody takes the guts and the qualifications to throw the bum out of office, I guarantee you, you will have a complete change in the policy of the American people in practice.
02:14:14.000I agree with you, we don't have much time.
02:14:16.000And everyone I talk to, not just geopolitically, not just intellectually, in everybody's gut, People are really concerned.
02:14:25.000And, you know, I go back to MF Global.
02:14:27.000I mean, they've never taken $3 billion of people's private accounts and just said, we're not even going to investigate, we're keeping the money.
02:14:35.000I mean, it's, it's, it's, there may have been a method to the madness before, but when you talk about an inbred power structure, who a lot of them are just educated idiots, the sky's the limit.
02:14:47.000I mean, this is like Caligula or Nero.
02:14:50.000Understanding history, Lyndon LaRouche, And knowing what the breaks are right now, what do you see happening?
02:14:59.000I mean, you said with your intelligence and Pentagon connections, high-level groups are telling them no, no, no.
02:15:24.000The issue here is, what's the United States going to do?
02:15:27.000And what are other countries going to do?
02:15:29.000I can guarantee you, if we throw Obama out of office, we're going to have cooperation, full cooperation, from Russia, from China, probably from India, and from other countries.
02:15:43.000We're going to find that the world is going to have a kind of unity at the moment before Franklin Roosevelt died, when we virtually had won World War II.
02:15:55.000People are now at a point of anxiety that if somebody puts the solution before a hungry man on a plate, and the man, hungry man, is seeing his children starving, and somebody's going to come up with a solution, they're not going to have to be very fussy About finding out why they're doing what they're doing.
02:16:19.000They're trying to get their country back.
02:16:22.000And we have most of the people in the United States want their country back.
02:16:26.000If a few of us, in responsible positions of leadership, act within the provinces of our Constitution, to take an action to throw this President out of office, even if the initiative is made by a relatively few people, If it's made, and made under the proper law, you'll find a rejoicing in the streets throughout much of the United States.
02:16:50.000And you'll be hiding Obama someplace where nobody can get at him, because you're not going to have him killed.
02:17:13.000And you're just pointing out that even though it's symbolic and he's a puppet of very wicked people, the fact that their puppet falls and they don't go through the regular cycle of a new Republican puppet, that would be seen as a major point to crystallize some real ideas of sanity being brought in.
02:17:32.000But what about the same forces trying to bring in just another new puppet?
02:17:53.000And if unfortunately we got Truman in instead of Roosevelt later.
02:17:57.000If Roosevelt had continued as President, we'd never have any of these problems.
02:18:00.000Sometimes our Chief Executive, or the circles which are our Chief Executive collectively, of our Constitution, When the people in our country do know something about our Constitution.
02:18:14.000But they may not know all the details, but they do know right from wrong in that sense.
02:18:20.000What's needed now is leadership in the United States which will remove this President from office immediately.
02:18:27.000That will put into play immediately in the Congress, especially in the Senate, And some of the key people in the House of Representatives will put them into motion immediately to change a great number of things suddenly.
02:18:42.000That doesn't mean everything is going to be solved, but it means we're going in a completely different direction.
02:18:47.000And we're going away from thermonuclear war.
02:19:06.000Yeah, Larouchepub is a publication of our... I know you've got a lot of websites.
02:19:11.000I wanted to... You know, we're out of time and I don't want to twist your arm at any more time, but I...
02:19:18.000If we can, I want to go to break and do just five more minutes on the other side, because I want to ask you from your deep, deep study, and I read, you know, the intelligence briefing and the rest of it, just invaluable information, but I want to understand the deep mindset of the oligarchy and what they think they're going to get out of this, because obviously it's leading them like Hitler into Russia or Or are others on ill-fated journeys that they're not going to make it out of this?
02:19:42.000They may succeed in wrecking everything, but there's got to be a point when this ends.
02:19:46.000Lynn LaRouche, just give us five more minutes on the other side, and then we'll get into financial news and phone calls and a lot more.
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02:24:29.000Because the world is imploding, these globalists always start wars.
02:24:34.000And it is the British Empire model we face.
02:24:37.000So in closing, so that we know the enemy, not the English or British people or the UK, but that parasitic system there, that through all of Europe's wars developed the most cunning manipulative system ever seen, Who are they?
02:24:58.000We don't know some of the history, but we do know that way back in the Mediterranean vicinity, there was a development of what were called oligarchical systems, in which a few people, a small part of the population, were treated, were called gods.
02:25:18.000And the ordinary people were treated as cattle.
02:25:21.000Now, that system of gods and cattle has continued in European civilization in particular, from that time to the present day in Great Britain.
02:25:33.000The British Empire is nothing but a revival of, again, for the fourth time, of a Roman Empire, which was started in Rome, which features such creatures as the Emperor Nero, and our current President of the United States has a personality identical psychologically, or pathologically, to the Emperor Nero.
02:25:55.000But we in the United States succeeded in establishing a system which was anti-oligarchical.
02:26:03.000In which the right of the individual citizen, as a citizen, was that of a human being, which had a right not only to live, but a right to pass on the meaning of their life to coming generations.
02:26:17.000And this was our special achievement in the United States, by the people who left England, left Belgium, and so forth, left Europe, and came to this territory to build up this United States.
02:26:29.000Now, we were weak relative to the British Empire.
02:26:33.000Because the British Empire does control the world.
02:26:36.000All of Africa is controlled by the British Empire.
02:26:45.000You have people within the system who are part of the imperial territory, who will resist inside the territory, but they won't break it.
02:26:54.000We in the United States, with all our failures, our failed presidents, our goofing up the issues, we have remained In the tradition of what the American system is, which was actually founded in Europe by other people, but was achieved in what became the United States.
02:27:14.000And therefore we have a special responsibility, and we are also respected.
02:27:19.000For example, in Asia we tend to get respect.
02:27:23.000Because we're opponents of this kind of oligarchical system.
02:27:27.000We've always been the great engine of at least the lofty ideals.
02:27:31.000Didn't mean we ever properly lived up to it.
02:27:34.000And to see America now used as an engine of corruption, to see other countries use us as an excuse to engage in tyranny, that's got to please the finance oligarchs.
02:27:45.000Yeah, but the point is, what does it hurt?
02:27:48.000It hurts every parent who has children.
02:27:51.000Because the secret of the United States does not lie in those of us who are living, or who have lived.
02:27:58.000The secret of our United States lies in the heritage of creativity and related benefits which we pass on to the future.
02:28:08.000We may die, but we live in what we contribute to the future.
02:28:14.000That's the difference of our system and the typical British oligarchical system.
02:29:21.000And what is immortal in us is our power of the imagination, the creative imagination, To develop the ideas of what mankind shall be and how it shall function.
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02:29:36.000We'll have to have you back on this subject alone.
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02:32:54.000Yeah, if you think you've seen the end of the tyranny or even the beginning, you ain't seen nothing yet.
02:33:12.000And you haven't seen what free humanity is going to do in response to tyranny.
02:33:17.000It isn't until the tyranny gets really naked that people start to fight back.
02:33:35.000So, because they know that we're awake to them and Congress has a 9% approval rating, Obama has an approval rating lower than Nixon or Jimmy Carter.
02:34:25.000And I'm sitting here, I read the globalist documents, I've been right about what I warned about, but it takes a while for this stuff to develop.
02:37:22.000And because we had some liberty, it created incredible wealth, and now all the crooks of the world ran in here, slowly took over, getting little pieces here, little pieces there, always making money, getting power out of it, and then now they've just gotten into total control.
02:37:36.000They're like, we'll torture you, we'll secret arrest you, we'll kill you if we want.
02:37:42.000They've already been doing all of that, but now they want to be able to go in to their people and say, here, you're allowed to do this.
02:37:47.000Now, a warning to their people, when the White House ordered people to torture, including children, when they got caught, they went ahead and sent the people that followed the orders to prison.
02:37:57.000And then Bush came out in his memoir last year and said, I ordered torture, I'd do it again.
02:38:19.000Coming up after some calls, foreclosure fraud, whistleblower found dead, MSNBC.
02:38:25.000Another one, Henry Paulson, Hank Paulson, gave hedge funds inside information on Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae when he was Treasury Secretary.
02:38:39.000And it goes on to say, I'll cover that in a moment after some calls, but I briefly wanted to bring Ted Anderson up.
02:38:55.000The urgency and... Ted, what do you think about all this that is happening in the world right now?
02:39:04.000Well, I mean, everything's melting apart, Alex.
02:39:05.000I mean, right now, I mean, just yesterday, the Fed, along with, well, here it is, right here, the Federal Reserve, Bank of Japan, the European Central Bank, the Swiss National Bank, the Bank of Canada, the Bank of England, have all joined together to do this bailout thing that's going to be going on in Europe.
02:39:22.000Just the day before, the President is out there saying that the United States dollars are not going to be committed to fixing this problem, and here we have the problem being bailed out.
02:39:31.000This is like what happened in TARP, but it's on steroids.
02:39:33.000I mean, right now, back when TARP was being doled out, it was said to be $700 billion, but it turned out to be $7.77 trillion by the Fed underneath and under disguise without any disclosure. but it turned out to be $7.77 trillion by the Any disclosure?
02:39:52.000These banks that were taking the money were in trouble, yet they were reporting that they're in great shape to their shareholders.
02:39:58.000So, you know, what they're trying to do is they're trying to stop a run on the banks, and this does.
02:40:02.000It totally sells our country and our sovereignty out.
02:40:07.000We are losing our liberty and we are turning it over.
02:40:10.000We are taking money directly out of the accounts of people's savings and so on and so forth through inflation and driving the value of the dollar down.
02:40:19.000And you're talking about World War III here.
02:40:25.000So why would anybody want to stay in a paper currency when they know the Fed is out there pumping new money into the system so they can lower interest rates and make it easier for these banks in Europe to trade?
02:40:37.000It's just absolutely a bailout, like we had in Wall Street here not too long ago.
02:40:42.000They're helping their buddies, but at the cost of the U.S.
02:41:40.000Joining us, but I want to get you on to just to go over the history of inflation And to give some examples, but also you can dig up the articles and show people You know how big these bailouts are but yeah Obama yesterday was giving speeches saying there'll be no Federal Reserve US dollars Given to this and here's Bloomberg today.
02:42:13.000And most economists I talk to, they say within six months, you're going to really see it.
02:42:17.000And you talk to Salente, uh, you know, and he's saying, look, they're going to start grabbing more bank accounts, more stuff, MF Global.
02:42:25.000I mean, Ted, the MF Global thing is what's shaking me up.
02:42:28.000Cause I went back and studied some of the cases and I, you know, I had remembered what had happened, but I wanted to make sure I was right.
02:42:36.000They've never had a Chicago mercantile big looting with a company bankruptcy with subsidiaries that took sequestered private accounts, segregated accounts.
02:43:09.000It's so crazy Bob Chapman thinks it may be some setup where...
02:43:13.000He made the bad bet, and they got the money on the other side betting against, but we've looked at it and can't find those numbers.
02:43:19.000I mean, these are lunatics, Ted, and they've got a bought Senate with a bunch of political whores, most of them who have been, you know, caught sleeping with the pages, so they're all blackmailed.
02:43:31.000Who are up there saying, yeah, we're gonna arrest whoever we want and torture you.
02:43:34.000I mean, it's just, to be totally confirmed that we've been absolutely right and then some, Ted, it's disgusting.
02:43:52.000All I think about is this, Ted, and I can't even get people I know to realize how real this is.
02:43:58.000Well, they're going to be realizing how real it is when they're standing there in a breadline.
02:44:01.000I mean, right now, we're covering the bad bets of the New York banks and the big banks in Europe for lending all this money to these countries that shouldn't have had it in the first place.
02:45:11.000But I can tell you right now, if the people had Half the information, or half the knowledge that it took to understand what was going on, and it's not even that, it doesn't even take a rocket scientist to figure this stuff out.
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02:48:54.000And it says a notary public who signed tens of thousands of false documents at a massive foreclosure scan before blowing the whistle on the scandal has been found dead in her Las Vegas home.
02:49:04.000She was scheduled to be sentenced Monday morning, and she pled guilty last month, notarizing the signature of an individual not in her presence.
02:49:10.000She failed to show up for a hearing, but police found her dead at the home later.
02:49:17.000And they can't, of course, determine what happened, but they've killed so many Pentagon investigators.
02:49:22.000Look, the green light's been given for criminals to run wild in America, as long as it's under mafia dons, government and corporate mafia dons.
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02:54:26.000and And I met him, he's a big ol' giant guy, who I got, uh, uh, uh, uh, Luke Hradowski got up on his shoulders when the MSNBC cut my bullhorn cord when I was out in public.
02:54:39.000So you can see that is what the extra in the Obama deception.
02:54:42.000It's also online, just type in MSNBC attacks Alex Jones.
02:54:45.000And I heard he's got some breaking news, uh, cause, uh, they actually separately emailed Dew, and Dew just came in here and told me, hey, they say they're on hold, and they've got some breaking news, I guess it's of a...
02:54:56.000of a Syracuse type or a Satanic Valley type with Penn State.
02:55:10.000Wow, this is some pretty amazing information.
02:55:13.000I don't know if you've heard about the Arapahoe County Sheriff Pat Sullivan was arrested yesterday involved in this methamphetamine and child sex ring.
02:55:25.000John Elinoff, who I know you know, actually is the guy who broke this thing.
02:55:30.000He's been spending several weeks working on this.
02:55:32.000He's been like hiding for his life and stuff, because this is really serious stuff.
02:56:40.000The guy's name was Pat Sullivan, and he's like a really honored sheriff.
02:56:45.000This guy has this stellar record, and this guy is definitely involved in this major stuff.
02:56:53.000Okay, yeah, I've just been given a news article.
02:56:55.000There's so many pedophile rings, I gotta keep track of it.
02:56:57.000Now, now, I know you say you guys were involved in investigating this.
02:57:00.000A lot of times they also sting good people and set them up for this, but I'm not saying that's not the... I mean, you guys are the ones on the ground.
02:57:07.000Former Arapaho Sheriff arrested on meth-dealing charge.
02:57:10.000And are you saying it's in the news here about the kids?
02:57:13.000Um, you know, they're not talking about like underage kids.
02:57:16.000They're kind of playing it off as like he was trading methamphetamines for sex.
02:57:22.000It says, yeah, former Arapahoe County Sheriff Patrick Sullivan was arrested on suspicion of trying to trade drugs to a man for sex as investigators monitored the deal.
02:57:35.000We've seen that with the Boys Town and all that.
02:57:39.000They'll bust one person to cover it up and then kind of minimize what's going on.
02:57:43.000But you're saying Elinoff was the one who actually got this going?
02:57:47.000Ellen Off was the guy behind the whole deal.
02:57:49.000He spent several weeks working on this.
02:57:52.000He was lucky enough to have started working for Tom Martino at a KHOW radio, and Tom Martino had the guts to actually help him out and get this thing on the radio.
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03:00:34.000Yeah, this reminds me of something you had mentioned, I don't know, a few weeks past about how these NWO guys will, you know, sacrifice some of their own people in order to make the rest of their people kind of toe the line because something big may be coming down.
03:00:50.000And I really suspect that that may be what's going on.
03:00:55.000Yeah, I know, they will bust a bunch of these rings and people to scare the rest of them and say, see what we can do?
03:01:03.000I mean, that's who the globalists want.
03:01:04.000They want someone who can be compromised.
03:01:32.000He kept on sticking with it, sticking with it.
03:01:34.000And really, this is really amazing stuff.
03:01:37.000Well, it's saying informants were involved and stuff because the deputies were in a police call and they saw the sheriff there and thought it was weird and that started the investigation.
03:01:46.000You're saying that's not what happened?
03:02:22.000Um, just, uh, I'm a former math, physics, and calculus teacher, and when I was young I was told that history was written by the victors, so I chose not to study any history, uh, thinking that it might be skewed, but, uh, you opened up my eyes to history, uh, within the last, uh, two years, and I started trying to teach people what you taught me, and people would place me in a category, uh, of being a ranter.
03:02:48.000Oh no, pretty soon if you know how to tie your shoelaces, you're a conspiracy theorist thought criminal.
03:02:53.000Yeah, well up in politically correct Canada, which is the politically correct capital of the universe I think, Anything that's not status quo, you're called a rancher, and that's a very bad thing.
03:03:06.000But something, an antidote that I got that I just wanted to share with you, because it might help you, and you may have heard of it because you're so well-studied, but it's a quote by Jiddu Krishnamurti.
03:03:19.000Yeah, it says, it is no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
03:03:26.000Well, yeah, I mean, obviously, it's just a thin Cliched stereotype to say, hey, I don't trust the government that's been caught lying thousands of times.
03:03:36.000They're like, how ridiculous, you're crazy.
03:03:47.000I mean, people get kind of get insulted when some.
03:03:52.000soulless, pathetic, jabberwocky minion of the New World Order giggles at you through their mind control, I mean, I would feel sorry and move on.
03:04:28.000It's a little mission town, where the president really did his stating to the native sense.
03:04:35.000So, um, the guy who let Obama out onto the stage to be sworn in is, um, more the person behind The corruption, as far as preventing the war... And who let him out?