Alex Jones breaks down a new piece of intel that points to massive Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) camps all across the U.S. The government has been planning these camps for over 20 years, and now they are ready to activate them.
00:00:23.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:27.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:55.000If you thought that that was hardcore, the secret arrest of Americans, the end of Pase Comitatus, military on the streets, the whole world of battlefield, if you thought all the announcements that they want to take your pension funds and put them into government control was bad, if you thought any of this MF global stuff was bad, this new piece of intel if you thought any of this MF global stuff was bad, this new piece of intel that came in today that we researched all day and then put an article out just an hour or so ago on That all of that was crazy.
00:01:47.000And of course, that's quite a headline.
00:01:50.000We have the emails, we have the internal Halliburton KBR documents, government defense and infrastructure, not for public eyes, restricted info, sent to us by people in government.
00:02:05.000And it's got the five regions for the FEMA camps and it talks about barricades and barbed wire and armed guards and it says that they built the camps and that now they need to get ready to staff them.
00:02:20.000and that they need to be ready within a 72-hour period for the guards and the people in the canteen with the food and the launderers, and just the whole nine yards, there it is.
00:02:33.000So they've been setting this up for more than two decades, and now they started earlier in the year, back in February of this year, advertising for upwards of 100,000 internment specialists here in the United States And now we're learning where they'll be at.
00:02:50.000Now, this particular manning of the camp is your local sports stadium, your local FEMA center.
00:02:56.000These are 300-person camps to 1,000-person camps, where they then interrogate you and go over things, and then you're sent off to the one-million-man camps that we're going to be breaking down.
00:03:05.000But I tell you what, I did a whole report on this.
00:03:08.000Oh, thank you, Marcos, appreciate that water.
00:03:11.000I've done a whole report on this that's coming up.
00:03:16.000But I suggest that you do what anybody with common sense, and of course our listeners, I think I have a little extra common sense, I would call your friends and family right now.
00:03:27.000And I would tell them to mosey on over to InfoWars.com so they can see this information.
00:03:33.000And I would tell them to get this information.
00:03:36.000Because it's a lengthy article that Curt Nemo and I put together this afternoon.
00:03:43.000And it's got links to films, And congressional hearings and admissions of all of this.
00:03:55.000And so I want to challenge everybody to call their friends and their families.
00:04:03.000Now, and realize that the new economy is to put tens of millions of people, we already have the biggest prison population in the world, in this archipelago, this giant chain of facilities all over the country.
00:04:25.000All the government documents, all the government admissions, a civilian inmate labor camp program run by the Army, where they're at, all the details down to how they're going to break the families up, and where the children go, and the forced inoculations, and everything.
00:04:42.000The executive orders, the legislation, the congressional hearings.
00:04:47.000But, I tell ya, Glenn Beck used to giggle and laugh a couple years ago.
00:08:24.000It's the kickoff of another live, worldwide broadcast.
00:08:29.000It is Wednesday, the 7th day of December 2011.
00:08:35.000It is the 70th anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attack by the Imperial Japanese.
00:08:43.000But we do have historian Webster Griffin Tarbley joining us.
00:08:45.000He's got a book coming out, it's not out yet, on what really happened at Pearl Harbor.
00:08:50.000It's a great example of a provocateur'd action.
00:08:53.000It's not saying the Imperial Japanese were good, it's just that U.S.
00:08:58.000proxy forces were attacking them in China, the Flying Tigers, mercenaries.
00:09:03.000The oil was cut off to Japan, and then the purple and blue code had been broken months before, and the United States did know the attack was coming.
00:09:13.000The Honolulu advertiser I have a copy of it, an actual copy from the archives.
00:09:19.000Did report a week before that the attack would come on the morning of December 7th.
00:09:23.000Honolulu Advertiser, still in operation today.
00:09:28.000And then they set up the generals and admirals and blamed them for it.
00:09:32.000When the aircraft carriers were put out to safe area, the old battleships allowed to be attacked.
00:09:38.000Not one, not two, not three, not four, but five.
00:09:41.000This is in my film, Masters of Terror, the CNN article.
00:09:44.000Five Japanese midget subs were attacked in the process of trying to get there in launch attacks that morning in and around Pearl Harbor.
00:09:57.000So the military was ordered to stand down while submarines Had already been engaged because one hand didn't know what the other hand was doing.
00:10:07.000In one case, 20 miles away from Pearl Harbor.
00:10:10.000And by the way, this has always been hidden in plain view.
00:10:13.000Whenever I went years ago, but now it's giant.
00:10:19.000Now it's much bigger than it had been before.
00:10:20.000It was just Admiral Nimitz's boyhood home in Fredericksburg, Texas.
00:10:25.000A hotel his family owned that was shaped like a ship.
00:10:29.000Well, the prow of a ship in a conning tower, that was a Pacific War Museum.
00:10:35.000Then when it became the official national Pacific War Museum, the George H.W.
00:10:40.000Bush Museum, they built a huge complex and it's a very world-class museum, by the way.
00:10:57.000But hiding in plain view is one of the midget subs from Pearl Harbor attack.
00:11:04.000So that was always hidden in plain view right there.
00:11:07.000And they paraded the sub around the country as well.
00:11:11.000And it was hidden in plain view in the original news article, as you can read, that they sunk it like an hour before the attack began.
00:11:17.000And still the stand-down order happened.
00:11:19.000The Japanese are intercepted, attacked, and counterattacked Trying to get their attack into the Pearl Harbor with subs, basically suicide teams, on midget subs, pocket subs.
00:11:33.000Alright, I'm now digressing because it's 70 years ago and it doesn't take away from the valor of our troops.
00:11:39.000It just shows how Imperial Japanese evil, U.S.
00:11:43.000government evil, Churchill evil, and then you get into that whole lesser of evils discussion.
00:11:53.000Now, they couldn't get the North Vietnamese to attack in 1964, and they wanted to go ahead and kick off the official war that had just been advisers for four years.
00:12:01.000They said our destroyers were attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin, and then of course we were conspiracy theorists for decades talking about it until they declassified it on the 40th anniversary in 2004 and admitted it was all staged and a lie.
00:12:13.000Of course, sailors had come back and said it was a fraud, it had been in the San Diego Herald Tribune it was a fraud, when this first officer came out and said it was a fraud, but then that just became a rumor.
00:12:24.000People read the news, told people, but years later, well I don't know where I heard it, but yeah, they say that was staged.
00:12:31.000That rumor, that legend, came from the admissions.
00:12:37.000Now, I digress here, but it is interesting that after Pearl Harbor, Close to 100,000 Japanese who love the free market, freedom of America, and become wealthy on the West Coast, some of them over here over 100 years, owning shipping companies, fishing companies, restaurants, factories, warehouses, from Seattle down to San Diego.
00:14:09.000To call your friends, to call your family, to call your neighbors, to tell the person next to you if you're on your lunch break in the Eastern Time Zone, sitting there eating your lunch, listening to the audio streams of InfoWars.com, of this radio show, or if you're watching us on PrisonPlanet.tv on your lunch break, or whatever the case is, or if you're driving along in your squad car, or if you're driving along in your taxi listening, or if you're out on the ship, People listen on cruise ships.
00:14:36.000I've gotten phone calls from cruise ships or fishing ships.
00:14:41.000Wherever you are in the world, or ships at sea, I want you to tell the person next to you, or to email your friends, tell your Facebook friends, if anybody still uses Facebook, kind of like MySpace.
00:15:12.000You know, driving into work this morning...
00:15:15.000I was thinking, how do I properly address something this big?
00:15:19.000How do I give people all the points of the compass?
00:15:22.000How do I explain the serious magnitude of this and the fact that it is real, and it is happening, and only by exposing it can we back them off?
00:15:34.000And then, of course, when it doesn't happen, we'll be blamed on the road, oh look, it didn't happen.
00:15:39.000And then of course, I remember five years ago, we said they're on the verge of attacking Iran.
00:15:43.000They want to paint up speedboats like Iranian boats and stage attacks on the ships.
00:15:48.000That's what our CIA sources are saying.
00:15:50.000Came out two years later that indeed Cheney had begun to paint up the boats and had told the Navy SEALs to do it, but that higher-ups even above him, George Walker Bush, had told him no.
00:16:03.000And then they didn't get that attack launched, and so, oh, look, the attack never happened.
00:16:07.000That's the point, is that now the attacks are going on, as we told you years ago, but now it's admitted.
00:16:13.000Blowing up bases, assassinating, killing people, drones dropping bombs, huge bases being vaporized with what's clearly gigantic bombs, huge craters.
00:16:26.000And our media's like, oh, it's just some ammunition blew up.
00:16:29.000And then now they're like, okay, we're blowing stuff up in Iran.
00:16:43.000That's why the Iranians are now threatening to go ahead and block the Strait of Hormuz.
00:16:47.000They don't like to look weak at the fact that they're taking a tax, so now they're kind of tacitly admitting it as well, and saying they may go ahead and block the Strait of Hormuz so it'll basically double oil prices.
00:17:38.000The Russians are deploying weapons all over their borders.
00:17:42.000It is now confirmed that the Soros crowd has been trying to destabilize and have hack attacks and things in Russia during that election.
00:17:50.000Again, it's not that Putin and Medvedev are good either.
00:17:53.000It's different groups of mafias and global gangster systems.
00:17:57.000It's just that we're run by the most powerful mafia, the big megabanks, who are waging war against the free market, the Second Amendment, the family, the whole homeland security grid is for us.
00:18:08.000They finance the Muslim extremists, they finance Al-Qaeda, they protect them, along with Saudi Arabia.
00:19:15.000When we come back, I'm going to cover the two top stories at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com that I need all of you, like never before, to get out to your whole email list and everyone you know and to all the big news sites and all the radio shows because we've got to force this out into being a national story and we've got to do it right now.
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00:24:57.000He told my crew that when he saw him downtown a few months ago.
00:25:01.000And so this should be somewhat informative and also entertaining in a way.
00:25:06.000So Art Acevedo is going to come in here and give me a verbal lashing, I'm told.
00:25:11.000I guess he was listening when I called him a communist Cuban.
00:25:15.000My point is he claims he's an anti-communist.
00:25:19.000And then he is our police chief, grew up in Cuba as a little kid, and then has checkpoints with blood draws at them, and face scanning, and license plate reading cameras.
00:25:31.000I mean, communism, fascism, whatever you want to call it, authoritarianism.
00:25:39.000And then we've got, we've also got joining us Webster Tarpley, historian, to really break down 70 years later, what really happened at Pearl Harbor.
00:25:55.000And I'm going to break this down right now.
00:25:59.000I'm going to break down what we're facing and why this is such a big deal.
00:26:03.000And the article that Kurt Nemo and I put together yesterday afternoon details in a snapshot, in a six-page article, with video clips and links to government documents, exactly the type of camps they've built, where they are, and how they intend to roll them out to the public.
00:26:21.000And the admissions, the legislation, the congressional hearings, this is not theories.
00:26:31.000And they've had Glenn Beck come out a few years ago and for months say he was going to expose it, and that it was real, and then come out and show straw men, train facility that isn't a FEMA camp, and a North Korean facility that people took photos of on the web, off satellite, and said was a camps in America.
00:27:29.000The FEMA admitting they want to use troops from 15 countries to quote take on American terrorists.
00:27:35.000What about the New York Times with photo gallery showing Boy Scout Explorer Scouts in 2009 all over the country training to quote take on militias and disgruntled veterans and kill them.
00:27:46.000What about Obama and speeches about national security forces?
00:27:49.000What about all the see something say something tattletale garbage and telescreens going in grocery stores and Walmarts?
00:27:56.000What about TSA and the regular army now setting up checkpoints all over the country?
00:28:00.000What about Congress passing a law that they can get rid of posse commentatus and have the military anywhere on the streets of America talk about federal power grab and have them pull triggers on American citizens and arrest citizens and never charge you?
00:28:15.000And then Stars and Stripes writes an article about Brigade Homeland and has a colonel quoted in there saying, yes, it'll be new for us pulling triggers on Americans.
00:28:25.000Or ABC News during Katrina gun confiscation.
00:28:28.000The army captain, the reporter, says, what's it like?
00:28:32.000He goes, well, you pull a trigger and kill an American.
00:28:33.000It's not fun, but we go door to door and we take the guns.
00:28:36.000That cuts to the police chief saying, all the guns will be taken.
00:28:40.000Or the clergy response team newscast where they admit churches all over the country have been secretly hired by Homeland Security to tell their flocks to go to FEMA camps when the time comes and take the injections.
00:28:52.000Of course, we broke that three years before it was on the news.
00:29:30.000Government activating FEMA camps across the United States.
00:29:36.000Now they expanded them and publicly built more under a Kellogg-Brown route, Halliburton contract, Wall Street Journal, Houston Chronicle, 2006.
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00:33:23.000It's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:33:29.000Okay, I'm gonna boil this down real simply and then read these articles and give you even more backstory to give you full spectrum analysis and breakdown of what we're facing.
00:33:39.000Criminal corporate financial oligarchs made major inroads by financing JP Morgan, the Rockefellers, and others in the 1860s and forward.
00:33:52.000The robber barons then controlled the Western expansion.
00:33:56.000They set up monopolies and ever since then put out public reports that we've covered and posted and had historians on about Breaking down the fact that they wanted to overthrow our Republican form of government.
00:35:35.000They're now taking private pension funds, bringing them into government control, and taking a large portion of it and calling it government protection of the funds.
00:35:44.000That's in Der Spiegel and Associated Press last night.
00:37:34.000The receivership arm, now they're going to implode that scaffolding and bring it fully under banker control with value-added taxes, sales taxes, carbon taxes, family taxes, total social control, shutting off economies for social engineering.
00:37:53.000Now, patriots discovered this in the 1950s and 60s, namely Joseph McCarthy.
00:38:00.000Who was demonized, and who did have problems like anybody, and who did, they allowed him to persecute innocent people because that created a new form of censorship in the name of countering communism, which actually brought us into authoritarianism in the name of fighting another authoritarianism.
00:38:17.000It was a Hegelian dialectic of problem and action solution.
00:38:20.000But the minute he discovered, I'm getting chills right now, this is even in the New York Times and Moscow Times now, the minute he discovered that the Pentagon was funding the Russians, And that the Pentagon and Armand Hammer and the Rothschilds and Rockefellers were running it all.
00:38:38.000So that Russia had a pretext to clamp down, and so we had a pretext to be clamped down on, but that it was all a huge Hegelian dialectic of full-spectrum dominance.
00:38:46.000The minute he said that, they destroyed him.
00:38:50.000In the hearings, they said, you're saying the Army's doing this.
00:38:53.000Now in hindsight, they've declassified the GRU and KGB files five years ago.
00:38:58.000In international headlines, McCarthy was right.
00:39:09.000But because of people warning the population and understanding it, and understanding that mega-rich want socialism and communism and collectivism and communitarianism and Agenda 21 for the general public to make us dependent on them, they sit international and are exempt from that.
00:39:31.000Then they lobby for more taxes telling the poor you'll get wealth redistribution with all this conspicuous consumption that they see and are licking their lips for if you get rid of the middle class who the poor believe is rich.
00:39:43.000They're actually the only group still employing the poor, still buying things from them.
00:39:48.000That service economy must be eradicated and it is.
00:39:51.000This is a philosophy of total degradation.
00:39:57.000My point is The globalists have been very arrogant and very out in the open in their white papers about vaccines that sterilize fluoride in the water to increase cancer, lower fertility, dumb everybody down.
00:40:14.000They've all been very honest about this because they have total contempt for you.
00:40:21.000That you're not going to go read that because it's not, you know, the latest sitcom or drama or woman's show or men's soap opera, you know, that basically is football.
00:40:38.000And so they just hide it in plain view.
00:40:40.000But because the globalists know that when they bring in this total collapse, people are going to get angry, there's going to be a move to restore the republic, there's going to be a move to unroot them that have engineered this publicly, that they have built FEMA camps, they have continuity of government programs, they have mass arrest programs, they've tried to train the military and police to go along with this, they've federalized things, they've put in the surveillance grid.
00:41:07.000They've got different ways they can roll it out.
00:41:09.000A staged bio-attack, a staged chemical attack, other terror attacks, mass shootings, blamed on domestic groups.
00:41:15.000They've got a whole constellation of systems they can use to psyop people into going along with this.
00:41:24.000Because they've committed these crimes, they've committed this economic espionage, this economic invasion, this economic program of globalization, de-industrialization, and all of it, so they can consolidate all power and leave no enemy standing.
00:41:40.000They see anybody with a business, anybody independent, as the enemy.
00:41:43.000It's a scorched earth policy of kill the buffalo, let the red man starve.
00:41:52.000Now, we have checkmated them at many levels because we saw their program, warned people, got laughed at, we didn't care.
00:42:05.000Now as it's beginning to come true, the credibility is rising.
00:42:08.000But that by no means means we're winning the war for liberty, it just means we're in the fight.
00:42:15.000And if you're in the fight, you've always got a chance to win.
00:42:18.000You've got to know your enemy, you've got to be motivated, you've got to do the research, you've got to be focused, and you've got to be dedicated.
00:42:27.000We're going to beat these people, but we got the jump on them.
00:42:31.000They got the original jump on us as the offensive attackers, but because it was a covert operation they were running against us, many people recognized it, mainly in government, in Congress, in the military, and warned people.
00:42:43.000The old days, they'd kill you for this.
00:42:47.000The information's out there, so they just went ahead and have gone forward with a program of just letting it all be out in the open and trying to hide it in plain view.
00:42:57.000So, because they're aware that we're awake to them, and that the Federal Reserve is now the enemy, and as Brzezinski said last year, the whole world is for the first time awake politically, and recognizing the puppet masters, not the puppets, they're just going ahead and flaunting it now.
00:43:33.000I mean, we are entering history right now.
00:43:38.000And only by getting the word out about this information and only by being strong enough to admit what's happening and to speak out to others and to say no when you're in the military and if you're a police officer, are we going to be able to turn this around?
00:43:51.000America has been seized by very nasty technocratic social engineers who think of us as trash and who are totally bloodthirsty and ruthless.
00:45:06.000And so he was thinking, I did all this and now I'm here and future generations are going to be committed to this.
00:45:14.000So because we saw the warnings, and because people like McCarthy, and you can look at him in hindsight and laugh at him, think of what he knew then.
00:45:22.000We didn't know as much then, 60, 70 years ago.
00:45:28.000Because of that, we got a chance to make some preparations for the final phases of this.
00:45:35.000We knew because of the creeping death formation of it, that it would take time for it to manifest to where the sheep would finally see it.
00:45:45.000So we had to keep telling them what was going to come next so that when it did uncloak to fire, people could recognize the enemy and would be at the switch to fire back at it.
00:45:56.000And it's when the globalists emerge, uncloak, when they finally make their big move, is that that's when we're in the greatest danger and they're in the greatest danger.
00:47:04.000So, the criminals that have taken over know that we're going to get angry and try to bring them to justice and get our government back, and they're not going to let that happen.
00:47:11.000They're going to try to bring in a hardcore tyranny.
00:47:14.000People who don't think it can happen here, look at how much has already happened.
00:47:17.000Well, I'm telling you, it is all going to happen.
00:47:20.000So it's time to get right with God, and then it's time to take action.
00:47:25.000Now, remember this article from earlier in the year?
00:47:27.000Internment Resettlement Special 31E, GoArmy.com, where they wanted to hire upwards of 100,000 for in the U.S.
00:47:34.000and overseas jail guards and people to be internment and resettlement specialists, including here in the United States.
00:47:54.000Market Watch of the Wall Street Journal reported for KBR, Kellogg, Brown and Root Division of Halliburton to build three one million man camps at former military bases.
00:48:05.000Now they've built over 500 in the states, this is all documented, substations to round up 300 to 1,000 at a time, and then to interrogate, debrief, decide if you're released, or sent to the larger center, or sent to a black site for execution.
00:48:22.000Of course, the locals don't know that, but we've gotten internal documents from them, and now they admit there is kill orders as well, and they've said we'll kill citizens.
00:48:31.000And they got kill teams ready, so it's good to know this up front, just because if they launch it, you're going to a death camp, many of you.
00:48:38.000So there's no point, you're dead already, you gotta resist.
00:48:41.000Don't go like the poor Jews and run down in the pit with the women with the babies in their arms and the Nazis just shooting them in the back of the head.
00:48:48.000Just understand, as we go to this red level, you gotta understand, we tried to avert this as best we could, and we may still do it.
00:48:55.000But it's real, and it's here, and It's not, they'll probably beta test on Arabs and then some militias and then it's going to be for everybody.
00:49:04.000They always roll it out on a minority first.
00:49:07.000Now continuing, exclusive, government activating FEMA camps across the U.S.
00:49:11.000So they built all these things and expanded them in the last few decades.
00:49:16.000Now they're putting out the contracts in all 50 states for, in some cases, more than 30 camps per state just as processing centers.
00:49:28.000Checkpoints at the highway, puts you in army trucks, take you to the facility, then you're shipped off to another facility, you're dieseled, you're taken.
00:49:39.000Brigade Homeland, Northcom, foreign troops, foreign assets, mercenaries, it's on.
00:49:48.000Infowars.com has received a document Originating from Halliburton subsidiary KBR that provides details of a push, and it's a hidden KBR link, they have a link to it, it was a hidden private link, but it's on their site right now, to outfit FEMA and U.S.
00:50:04.000Army camps around the United States entitled Project Overview and Anticipated Project Requirements.
00:50:11.000And it goes on to say they need fences and barricades, and it goes into all the security officers and things.
00:50:21.000Within 72 hours, notice, at hundreds of locations, they're now going to government fund, in the billions of dollars, the actual manning of the camps.
00:50:38.000They have got operatives in every city.
00:50:42.000Ready to go live with the camps, with private contractors running it, getting their 20 pieces of silver, 30 pieces of silver.
00:50:48.000And with local government, all the systems ready for the economic collapse, the riots, all of it.
00:50:55.000They're going to let all that roll out and let the public beg for it.
00:50:59.000And they're going to, as we learned from the Emergency Centers Establishment Act, put the homeless in them first.
00:51:04.000They're going to have movies, rock and roll music.
00:51:07.000The camps are going to be rolled out now.
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00:54:29.000And other pieces of information we had, we were able to piece together exactly how the FEMA camps were set up, the old military bases, the drills, the insider information.
00:54:40.000And we knew that they would try to roll it out as the implode of the economy as a place for all the homeless to go.
00:54:46.000All those that have been kicked out of their houses, and the new giant criminal populations, and if Mexico collapses, they admit plans to put millions of people in these facilities on the borders.
00:54:57.000So it's a constellation of different overlaying cover stories or a cocktail of different things.
00:55:05.000And in Nazi Germany, it was first, well, you're not allowed to have your businesses in this area because you're one of these groups that we have to protect from the public.
00:55:13.000And now you can't even have your business.
00:55:15.000And now you're going to live in a ghetto.
00:55:17.000And then the Nazis would go in and pick up every day whoever they wanted on a list at checkpoints.
00:55:22.000And then, oh, you're going to a camp where you can be kept safe and you're going to work for a living.
00:56:23.000They're not putting telescreens up for wanted people everywhere and giant signs and FEMA national break-ins over radio and TV for the first time activated with total federal control because they're nice people.
00:56:40.000That they have now come out in the news, well this information was leaked to us so we're breaking it, but that they are now activating and saying you've got to be on 72 hour standby, we're going to pay you to be ready to man the camps, and they're paid basically half the money.
00:57:01.000And then, even more, once they man the camps.
00:57:04.000And it's a giant business, and Halliburton, of course, that's been caught running slave camps, Chicago Tribune reported on that, all over the world.
00:57:12.000And they just grab locals, Philippines, you name it, and just put them in camps.
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01:00:34.000Webster Griffin Tarpley, who's a historian and also economist, frequent contributor to the show, has been researching for years and writing a book that isn't out yet on Pearl Harbor, its 70th anniversary.
01:00:46.000And we're going to speak, coming up in about 20 minutes.
01:00:49.000With Webster about Pearl Harbor, then I'm going to open the phone up for World War II vets.
01:00:55.000Now there's not many of those great men and women, some of them left, but if you can get involved on air and open the phones up just for you after Tarpley gets into some of the basics of Pearl Harbor and parallels that we see today.
01:01:09.000But going to Webster, Webster, I'm springing this on you because it's breaking and a lot of times when something's this big I end up just canceling guests until the next day, but I wanted to have you on because you can speak to this.
01:01:19.000We got quasi-secret documents, and we've confirmed them, from KBR, Kellogg, Brown & Root, Subsidiary, Halliburton, who admittedly runs camps all over the world, and we know that We know that six years ago they got the $386 million contract for three one million man camps, a source on that Wall Street Journal.
01:01:41.000Now I've been sent something, we're breaking it, where they're now getting ready to man them, the big camps and the little camps.
01:01:48.000And it says barricades, barbed wire, jail, you know, the jail guards, the food services.
01:01:53.000For a collapse, and it's huge news, we're trying to punch it out there to everybody.
01:01:57.000You see the NDAA passing, where they can secretly arrest citizens, use the military.
01:02:08.000We see just all the military accelerations.
01:02:11.000I mean, things are going into high gear.
01:02:13.000But the fact that they're actually putting out the contracts to now man the camps, I mean, is this not incredible, Webster?
01:02:22.000What does this signify to you that they're saying, 72-hour notice, these people are paid lavish amounts, subcontractors, to be ready to provide this to the master company, KBR, within 72 hours?
01:02:34.000I'm not saying it's going to happen in 72.
01:02:36.000They're now signing up to always be ready.
01:02:39.000What does that sound like to you, Webster?
01:02:41.000Well, we know that we're in a depression.
01:02:43.000We are in this terrible breakdown crisis or disintegration of the world economy.
01:02:48.000Last week, on Wednesday, we came close to blowing out the entire thing.
01:02:53.000We had three big Euro-zombie banks, reportedly.
01:03:07.000But this has been reported by reliable European sources, and that joint action of the six central banks you saw last week, right, the US, the Europeans, Japan, Canada, Britain, Switzerland, all making it easier for zombie banks to borrow money, was in response to the fact that the bottom was about to fall out, and now we have Merkel and Sarkozy trying to ram through this lunatic austerity corset, as they call it in Britain.
01:03:38.000It's a kind of a straitjacket that says everybody has to have a balanced budget or thereabouts.
01:03:44.000And of course, this is a very evil plan.
01:03:47.000So remember, we're always in this three-phase problem.
01:03:52.000Depression, Leading to dictatorship, leading to then the war, and we're seeing the dictatorship and the war come in at the same time.
01:04:01.000And that's the pattern of history, it always happens.
01:04:03.000People marvel that you and I and others have accurately, Ron Paul, predicted things, but this is the course of human events.
01:04:30.000We know from our experience in the 1930s and 1940s.
01:04:33.000We know from New Deal, Lend-Lease, and other things.
01:04:36.000The point is, Webster, even if you're right about that political and financial strategy, it's not going to be implemented.
01:04:42.000They want the collapse, they want to use the collapse to reorganize society along the eugenics model, and they're going to do it.
01:04:48.000So the question is, what do we... Maybe the news of these concentration camps will shake through a couple of... Exactly!
01:04:54.000So I want to break the concentration camps down with you, then we'll get into 70 years, yesteryear, because those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it.
01:05:02.000Doctor of History, Webster Griffin Tarpley, is our guest.
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01:08:44.000Here's the big headline at InfoWars.com.
01:08:48.000Exclusive government activating FEMA camps across the United States.
01:08:55.000A project overview and anticipated project requirements.
01:08:57.000The same subsidiary of Halliburton that got the three one million man camp funding.
01:09:04.000This all ties into the Emergency Centers Establishment Act.
01:09:08.000It sets up fencing, barricades, And prepares teams all over the country to be on 72-hour notice to activate and staff the camps.
01:09:22.000So they just sit there on standby and are waiting.
01:09:25.000This is a major escalation right as the global depression comes in, right as the economies meltdown, right as the bankers and the zombie banks get more power out of the crisis they created.
01:09:36.000And this also dovetails with the other article by Paul Joseph Watson.
01:09:39.000Detention camps order follows preparations for civil unrest.
01:09:44.000government, the British government, we have links to that, are in the news saying they're getting ready for civil unrest.
01:09:49.000Oh, they've passed a law where the army can operate and arrest whoever they want for any reason, and they say activism, protesting is terror?
01:10:28.000Well, I would say, first of all, what to do about it is, why doesn't Ron Paul and Congressman Kucinich, or some combination like that, something that, you know, a bipartisan group, why can't we get a resolution in the House of Representatives condemning preparations under Obama for domestic dictatorship?
01:10:48.000The other thing to do Is, you know, you have these Republican candidates campaigning in Iowa and New Hampshire, and if people are there, this is a golden opportunity to confront them.
01:10:58.000Hey, uh, hey Newt Gingrich, what do you think about concentration camps?
01:11:02.000Hey Romney, what do you think about them?
01:11:04.000Hey Bachman, hey Santorum, hey, uh, all of them, right?
01:11:07.000What, what do you, what do you think about them?
01:11:09.000Give Ron Paul a chance to say something about it and condemn it.
01:11:12.000In other words, let's get a political campaign going, and let's also make sure that international Attention is called to this, right?
01:11:19.000That people in the world should know that the concentration camps are being readied.
01:11:49.000Now, once I've said these two names, Stimson and McCloy, I have identified the leaders, the deans of the Wall Street faction in the 1930s, 40s, into the 60s and even the 70s.
01:11:59.000And it was in particular Stimson Acting on advice of McCloy, who said to Roosevelt, you are going to put concentration camps up and you're going to put the Japanese in them.
01:12:13.000And this, of course, you have to remember, these people are Republicans.
01:12:16.000In other words, they are people that Roosevelt brought into the government in June of 1940.
01:12:22.000After the fall of France, he wanted to have a national unity government, a bipartisan government, so he had to invite in these Republican Wall Street guys who ran the Pentagon, in effect, the War Department.
01:12:34.000They were not Creatures of Roosevelt, they were Wall Street guys, and they acted as Wall Street guys always did.
01:12:40.000This is the group that's responsible for dropping the atomic bomb.
01:12:45.000Roosevelt, of course, dead by that time.
01:13:26.000Everybody needs to go to their police chiefs, their county commissioners, their sheriffs.
01:13:32.000They need to go to all of them and point out, okay, they're passing laws that the army can be used.
01:13:38.000They can secretly arrest us, Obama's lawyers.
01:13:40.000You know, say, we're not going to sign that because we're going to veto it because Obama doesn't need Congress to do this, but we do agree we can still do it.
01:13:48.000The army admitting they're ready for domestic operations, the TSA running checkpoints.
01:13:52.000I mean, clearly they're getting ready to try to clamp down on the population just like it's happening in Europe.
01:13:57.000And most economists, Webster, say the U.S.
01:14:00.000is worse off than Europe once the collapse comes here.
01:14:03.000And they think that they can ride this dragon, this tiger that they've created.
01:14:13.000out of this and say, look, I mean, this one article that Curt Nemo and I wrote last night, it breaks down all the admissions, the bills, the Congress, the maps, where they're at.
01:14:23.000It's total proof that this is going on.
01:14:26.000And you add it to all this other stuff and the Japanese group in America coming out and warning.
01:14:32.000What does this signify for you, though, Webster, that they are going ahead and now moving to man the camps?
01:14:38.000Well, this is that three-phase progression that we saw in the 1930s, and as long as you have protracted depression, getting worse as the phases go on.
01:14:47.000Unless you stop the depression, there's really very little you can do about this other stuff.
01:14:52.000Actually, we want to do a lot in terms of denouncing the totalitarianism and the dictatorship.
01:14:59.000How about getting a committee of distinguished people, right?
01:15:03.000Emergency Committee Against Dictatorship in the United States, and try to get Bipartisan, you know, writers, scientists, humanitarians, college presidents, who knows, right?
01:16:13.000In other words, that's why we've got austerity, and then the killer austerity leads to people going out in the streets, and then The response is, let's send the SWAT teams and let's start rounding people up and putting them in the sports stadium like Pinochet.
01:16:28.000So, you gotta have an economic program to fight dictatorship, because otherwise you're just fighting the symptoms, which of course have to be fought.
01:16:39.000Well, you know, it means you've got to essentially see where it's all coming from.
01:16:46.000And the problem that we're facing is in Europe, we're told that they need three trillion dollars.
01:17:48.000The world, just like before World War I, World War II, is hurtling into this same quagmire bygone.
01:17:58.000But now, The social engineers, whether they're right or wrong, believe that they have engineered this and are going to be able to ride this out, so it is a planned program.
01:18:10.000And I understand that as things collapse, that leans towards dictatorship, but they want this post-industrial, as you've exposed, eugenics-style shutdown and then re-engineering of our society.
01:18:25.000So the point I raise here Is as Europe collapses, then as the U.S.
01:18:30.000collapses, obviously they think, okay, man the camps for social unrest, but they already had the camps built, they knew this was coming.
01:18:37.000What is the time frame right now as this global meltdown accelerates in your research?
01:18:44.000Well, again, we had a big worldwide disintegration, a systemic crisis in September, October, November of 2008.
01:19:30.000I'm amazed that some police agency, some independent judge or magistrate doesn't start indicting... Sure, because these...
01:19:40.000These ratings agencies openly work for the big six megabanks that are taking the sovereign nations over and want things to get worse, threatening, give the banks all the power or we'll implode you.
01:19:49.000And then somehow the media tells the public this is our debt, when almost all of it is the megabanks' debt.
01:19:55.000And then now in Portugal, I want to talk about this, they've publicly started taking private pension funds.
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01:24:38.000Genrich advocates trashing Fourth Amendment and Bill of Rights, and he even jokes in the C-SPAN video from a couple years ago That somebody dug up.
01:24:48.000He even brags that, hey, it'd be good to let some terror attacks take place so people will give their rights up.
01:24:55.000And when you research this stuff, it's so obvious what's going on.
01:25:00.000It's so obvious what our society has turned into.
01:25:04.000I want to do the second half of the interview on Pearl Harbor and the seventh anniversary and your deep research there, Webster, but I'm sure you saw the articles yesterday out of Der Spiegel and others where they were talking about Portugal taking private pension funds.
01:25:22.000This isn't getting rid of them welfare people's money like everybody says.
01:25:26.000This is the mega banks taking people's pension funds, taking a large part of them, and then saying the government now manages them and will give you what we feel like you should get.
01:25:35.000But it's a one-off they're saying to prop up banks.
01:25:38.000And then of course you've done the math on this.
01:25:40.000It's over a thousand five hundred quadrillion, one thousand five hundred trillion.
01:25:49.000So, I mean, how much are they going to get away with?
01:25:54.000Well, in Portugal, we had austerity under the socialists.
01:25:59.000I think we're now under a different leadership.
01:26:03.000But it just shows you, once you go down the road of austerity and cuts and balancing the budget, you're going to lose everything and you're going to lose your political rights.
01:26:13.000Let me also say, though, With the Anglo-Americans, London, Washington, these characters, the thing that's scaring them most right now is Putin.
01:26:23.000The fact that Putin is back and Russia is back, and we've got six or eight conflict points from Syria to the anti-ballistic missiles to Hillary Clinton shooting off her yap about the Russian elections and getting a really blunt
01:26:41.000Right now we've got a kind of a fake, it's like a mini color revolution in the streets of Moscow, put up there by the US, by the British, but Gorbachev has joined in.
01:26:58.000Gorbachev has shown what he was made of all along, that he was basically a foreign agent.
01:27:03.000Uh, wrecking the Soviet Union back when he did.
01:27:06.000And they all say, oh no, this election is not legitimate.
01:27:23.000So it's a vote against the cowardice and the appeasement and the weakness of Medvedev.
01:27:30.000I think when you see Putin run, he'll get a very satisfactory vote.
01:27:35.000But in the meantime, this phase of the two elections, the parliamentary election now and the presidential election next March, The US and the British think they can make trouble for Russia.
01:27:47.000They're gonna try to get in there and do something.
01:27:49.000Maybe a cyber offensive like we've never seen it in history or a false flag, right?
01:27:55.000Some bomb goes off and somebody says, oh that's the KGB and we know that the KGB means Putin so we know Putin did it.
01:28:04.000Something Really wild is, I think, in the works, because what we've been talking about up to now, the US British ruling class is berserk.
01:28:45.000I mean, that is an incredible escalation.
01:28:47.000I think that's a realistic statement, unfortunately, at this point.
01:28:51.000But the problem is the drugged, inert U.S.
01:28:57.000public doesn't seem to register these things.
01:29:00.000So it's, of course, necessary to beat the drum.
01:29:03.000About all this, but the strategic reality now is... Yeah, but China, I mean, it's been decades since they said prepare for war with the United States.
01:29:11.000I mean, that was Associated Press yesterday, but wasn't even really a big nightly news item.
01:29:16.000I mean, Russia's got ships coming in, the Chinese are threatening, because they know they're about to have their oil cut off, just like the Japanese did, pre-Pearl Harbor, by cutting off the Iranian oil.
01:29:27.000The Iranians are saying they're going to block the Strait of Hormuz if these sanctions go in.
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01:36:44.000Okay Webster, I want to finish up with the geopolitical And then get to 70 years later after Pearl Harbor, from your deep research, what really happened there, and how all of this ties together at our point in history.
01:36:58.000But anything else you'd like to add about currently what's happening financially?
01:37:05.000And if things do continue down this road, where we'll be six months from now?
01:37:15.000We're now in the middle, and we're in the real soup of the second wave.
01:37:22.000And as you were saying before, if you get one, two, or three euro zombies blowing up, then it's going to come right back to Citibank, Bank of America, and the rest of the Wall Street zombies, who of course, despite what the networks tell you, are not fundamentally stronger than the European banks.
01:37:39.000Well, they're not even mailing out euro!
01:37:41.000It's now admitted that most of this is actually stuff they did in Europe.
01:38:13.000He's in a jail cell, he's got a newspaper that says, "Goldman Sachs veterans take power in Europe." And he picks up the phone and he says, "This is Harry Madoff, I'm volunteering to become Prime Minister of Portugal or Spain or Italy." Right, so Madoff, we may be getting to the point where Madoff will be rehabilitated and made head of the European Central Bank or the European Commission or whatever it is.
01:38:36.000It's basically, it's a world gone mad.
01:38:38.000So, it's time to assert sanity against this stuff and that means Denounce the slide into dictatorship by all means, right?
01:39:28.000Well, the account that I have is that that week, the week that Dominique Stass-Kahn was entrapped, I guess he was entrapped on a Sunday night, I think, his schedule that night was to fly back to Europe and he was actually headed for Berlin and the story goes that there was an attempt by the Europeans back in the springtime when this happened
01:39:53.000That Strauss-Kahn was going to go to Berlin and meet with Merkel, and they were going to try to set up the pilot project, sort of the embryonic form of a new world monetary system, which would be alternative to the dollar, maybe a euro-based reserve currency.
01:40:12.000And of course, if you want to do that, the first thing you need is oil, so that they actually had an envoy Who was scheduled to go from Berlin to Tripoli, Libya to meet with Gaddafi to see if they could get him to be the initial oil backstop for that.
01:40:28.000In other words, would he lend his oil reserves and his African following to this kind of an operation?
01:40:37.000And for some reason, The Anglo-Americans decided, no, we don't want to wait for this.
01:40:42.000The Europeans might be doing something to save themselves from this attack, right?
01:40:46.000Because the crisis of the Euro is artificial.
01:41:16.000I mean, you know, the globalists do plan on further destroying us.
01:41:20.000Yeah, but there's also the Frankenstein effect.
01:41:23.000In other words, the schemers in the city of London and Wall Street, what they think they're going to get is not what they get, right?
01:41:30.000They thought that Hitler would attack Stalin and that was all.
01:41:33.000And instead, Hitler turned out to be trickier than they thought.
01:41:36.000He turned out to be, indeed, a Frankenstein monster.
01:41:40.000So once you get into this game of having a depression and you're trying to shove that onto somebody else, then the boomerang effect is going to get you.
01:41:48.000Well, I mean, what about poking China?
01:41:50.000And Russia in the nose, that's reckless.
01:41:54.000Well, we had, you know, Medvedev was completely sold on the reset, right?
01:41:59.000He really believed that there was going to be a reset with Obama.
01:42:02.000Look at Obama, he's got such a nice smiling face and we had that little...
01:42:07.000Yeah, but come on, isn't Medvedev a minion of Putin?
01:42:15.000Yeah, but maybe not, because if you get the entire world on your side, even in a country like Russia, that gives you real power.
01:42:22.000So there were Goldman Sachs people whispering in Medvedev's ear, we're going to make you great you know dump putin we'll make you uh the lord of you know half the world uh and instead right now medvedev i think medvedev is on his way out i think what's likely to happen now is putin is going to say medvedev you failed your lousy campaign your lousy policies have lost us 77 seats in the parliament we're dumping you we're bringing in somebody else let's be honest
01:42:52.000webster medvedev was simply a placeholder for putin and to create the illusion of people changing so putin could could still be in power I mean, come on.
01:44:08.000And Putin is now personally sponsoring China to become a full member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.
01:44:16.000So there's a double guarantee for Pakistan, but the Anglo-Americans say, hey, we're the imperialists, we rule the world, we're crazy, we do what we want, we're pushing ahead, we're gonna try to grab the Pakistani Nuclear forces.
01:44:29.000So again, you've got this belt of territory, right?
01:44:57.000Obama, I don't know how bonkers he is.
01:44:59.000He's certainly mentally disturbed, but he's mainly out there courting adulation as he runs around, you know, from campaign event to campaign event.
01:45:07.000Yeah, he's an egomaniac, narcissist, moron.
01:45:15.000Committee of Public Safety is Panetta, it's Hillary Clinton, it's Eric Holder, Police Minister, it's Donilon of the National Security Council, and General Petraeus.
01:45:26.000That's the Principals Committee, that's what runs the U.S.
01:45:30.000Obama is sort of a sideshow with his campaign events.
01:45:36.000He wants to cut the Social Security payroll tax.
01:45:39.000He wants to destroy Social Security to give himself a short-term boost.
01:46:12.000I think that's maybe the starting point, is that Japan was... Japan, if you take the period between 1890 and 1950, Japan attacked more countries and bigger countries than anybody in the world.
01:46:25.000They did not have to be provoked to do anything.
01:46:27.000When they wanted to attack Manchuria, they provoked themselves with the Mukden incident.
01:46:32.000When they wanted to attack China... No, no, very aggressive, very martial.
01:46:36.000My point is, you're writing a book on Pearl Harbor itself, though.
01:47:31.000And a guy called Richmond K. Turner at the Navy Department.
01:47:35.000And then, on the codes, we gotta look at Sir Winston Churchill, because He's the guy who can read the Japanese naval code, JN-25, which the U.S.
01:47:45.000largely cannot read, or he can read much better, and he is the one who fails, he refuses, to warn Roosevelt and the U.S.
01:48:30.000They'd been drilling this since the 1920s.
01:48:33.000They'd known, and they'd even known what direction the Japanese fleet would have to come from if it wanted to preserve secrecy, not crossing the sea lane.
01:48:42.000Kimmel, in particular, who's the most vocal defending himself.
01:48:51.000You had light cruisers with airplanes on them.
01:48:53.000You had something called seaplane tenders, where you could have six or eight seaplanes Operating off a, you know, something that looked like a freighter.
01:49:02.000You could have sent all of that out and made a screen.
01:49:05.000You were told by the Navy Department to send out SAM pans, yachts, tugs.
01:49:10.000You were told to send Coast Guard cutters.
01:49:13.000You had dozens and dozens and dozens of ships.
01:49:43.000They don't want the war that's in front of them.
01:49:45.000They're thinking about some other war, some other time.
01:49:48.000If you look in American military history, these guys are like George McClellan.
01:49:53.000They want to train, and train, and train, and then somebody says, why don't you go and fight?
01:49:57.000Oh no, I've got to train, and train, and in particular they remind me of the French generals of the year before, who had a very strong military establishment, and were nevertheless rolled over by Hitler, because their heart wasn't in it.
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01:55:25.000Okay, so you're getting into what really happened with Pearl Harbor.
01:55:28.000My whole issue is, you know about the five midget subs that were trying to attack that morning and still the stand down went forward?
01:55:35.000I think it's worse than just bungling here, Webster.
01:55:38.000Yeah, but look, you're dealing with Kimmel and Short, who don't want to fight.
01:55:42.000They're not interested in fighting fascism.
01:55:44.000And you can compare Short, right, his lack of air defense, you can compare that to a guy who did want to fight fascism.
01:55:52.000General Claire Chennault of the Flying Tigers was able to defend, like, Rangoon, Burma, the same month as Pearl Harbor.
01:56:00.000With very few aircraft, 10, 20, 30 flying Tigers, he was able to inflict very serious losses on Japanese attackers.
01:56:09.000And he had been doing that even for the Chinese.
01:56:12.000He'd organized the air defense of Shanghai, China in 1937, 1938, and got the same kind of results.
01:56:20.000So you could have defended the island, except you needed to have the Chennault mentality, which was, we want to fight fascism, and we trust the people.
01:56:28.000We're willing to trust Yeah, but the Flying Tigers were sent there covertly to fight the Japanese.
01:56:34.000Yeah, but even before the Flying Tigers, there's Shenault as an individual, is an advisor to Chiang Kai-shek, and he organizes the air defense of Chinese cities.
01:56:44.000No, I'm not saying that was a bad thing.
01:56:46.000I think the Japanese were out of control.
01:56:48.000It's just, let's be honest, they let them attack the Shebs to get us into the war, and you're acting like Roosevelt was floating around playing harps up on some clown.
01:57:25.000Admiral Richmond K. Turner in the Navy Department, and he's really the dominant... Maybe you're right, maybe it was bungling, because they did stop all five of the Japanese subs.
01:57:35.000Some of those... This was an hour before you go on total alert when Japanese subs are invading the island.
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02:02:27.000Well, I mean, I have to get more information, but I think that, uh, if somebody's going to do that, that's what we have the local police for.
02:02:37.000Isn't that a violation of the 10th Amendment?
02:02:39.000I mean, that's outside the Fed's jurisdiction.
02:02:41.000Well, it depends what the checkpoints are for, but the bottom line is I'd have to get more information, but... But checkpoints aren't good, though.
02:03:11.000I mean, DWI checkpoints, if you really think about them, they're actually, if you really think about them, if they're done right, they're really voluntary.
02:03:25.000The checkpoints they had were not, well they're looking for specific people based on their race just to, in many cases, religion.
02:03:31.000And here it's just going to be if you love freedom and are a patriot.
02:03:33.000Because you get those federal training manuals where it says libertarians, conservatives, returning veterans, and the number one terror threat.
02:04:26.000I think that a democracy, you have to police within the realm of the Constitution.
02:04:32.000You have to... And what's interesting is some of the guys that... I remember having a meeting with some guys, and I won't say their names, I don't want to embarrass them.
02:04:38.000They came in, they said they didn't believe in the Constitution.
02:04:40.000Well, unfortunately, that's the book we follow, and so... Really?
02:04:44.000Who came in and said they didn't believe in it?
02:04:51.000I would say it was people who don't trust the government.
02:04:54.000A group that started the conversation with myself and David Carter.
02:04:57.000I don't know if you've met David, our Chief of Staff, that they didn't believe in the Constitution.
02:05:00.000And my response to them was, well, then I guess our meeting will be very short because we try to do everything consistent with the Constitution.
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02:09:05.000Tar and Feather Kit, that's what they did to the British bureaucrats that violated people's rights and liberties.
02:09:10.000And I've been wondering what to do with it, and I saw it there on the table today when R.J.
02:09:14.000Cervantes was coming in, so I thought, and it's got real tar and feathers, and say next Halloween you can go out on 6th Street as part of community outreach and maybe Yeah.
02:10:45.000It's just like, I just know, I think you know, we may not agree on everything, but I think you know that I may be misguided in your eyes, but you know my heart's in the right place, and what I'm trying to do is keep people safe, which is what our office are trying to do, and just trying to keep Austin the cool, livable city it is.
02:11:49.000The thought of people driving around with guns in their cars made me very nervous when I first got here.
02:11:54.000But I really believe that responsible gun ownership, which is what Texas has demonstrated by making sure that people, number one, don't have psychological issues, true psychological issues.
02:12:03.000Or that they're not involved in criminal enterprises, that absent that, that law-abiding Americans should be able to bear arms and buy weapons.
02:12:14.000The problem that I see, and I think that people that support the right to bear arms need to be careful of, is when you have straw purchasers that show up at these gun shows, they buy a bunch of guns, and then they go out and they sell them to criminals, to crooks, to people that are going to do the drive-by shooting.
02:12:28.000But as long as I have my guns to defend myself, I mean, look at Chicago and New York.
02:12:33.000Highest crime rates because only the criminals have the guns.
02:12:35.000You're never going to stop the criminals from having guns.
02:12:37.000I mean, I would never say take guns from police.
02:12:45.000I mean, my whole issue is more guns, less crime.
02:12:49.000But, I mean, let's look at Fast and Furious.
02:12:51.000A couple years ago with the gun show debacle, I was pointing out that that was an ATF setup, and now we know that those were, and the ATF has been shipping guns into Mexico to then blame the Second Amendment.
02:13:03.000Well, I think that you've got to be very careful that when you put something in the hands of the wrong people, or try to introduce a firearm that doesn't end up in the wrong hands.
02:13:16.000And I think that common sense would dictate that if we are shipping weapons to Mexico that end up in the narco-traffickers' hands, that are now executing police officers and innocent people and all kinds of people in Mexico, that they're on the verge of a civil war down there if they don't really get it together.
02:13:43.000National Security got declared on it in Chicago.
02:13:45.000Sinaloa was allowed to ship drugs in for five years.
02:13:49.000And when the Attorney General brought that up and said, well, you know, Bush did this too, that's when they finally dropped the whole case.
02:14:48.000Look, I am a proponent that the answer is not to... because even in some European countries where they've decriminalized drugs, they're starting to take a second look at it because of the social impact it has on people's lives when people get addicted to some of the drugs.
02:15:04.000I am a proponent of we need to fight the war at the source, which means where they're being produced.
02:15:10.000And that's a national security issue that goes beyond the purview of the Austin Police Department.
02:15:13.000But I don't think the answer is to decriminalize drugs.
02:15:16.000Marijuana, I'm not that excited about.
02:15:18.000You know, I'm not, I don't get too excited about marijuana.
02:15:20.000But come on, I can pull the numbers up.
02:15:22.000You're saying Europe's taking a second look at it.
02:15:25.000They've got all sorts of numbers where you decriminalize and actually drug use goes down.
02:15:30.000Well, if you look at Vancouver, which is a city that has a very permissive attitude towards drug use, they've got a tremendous problem there.
02:15:38.000Well, yeah, when it's pockets, all the druggies move there.
02:16:59.000Here's the Halliburton Operation, I have the Wall Street Journal, six years ago, where they first got the contract to build the camps.
02:17:08.000Now they're preparing to man the camps.
02:17:11.000And it talks about security, checkpoints, barbed wire, and barricades.
02:17:16.000And they have this Emergency Centers Establishment Act that basically says political dissidents will go in these.
02:17:23.000I mean, Chief, are the feds out of their jurisdiction if they start arresting political dissidents?
02:17:29.000Well, I think if you look at the First Amendment, that we have the right to free speech, the right to associate with whatever beliefs we have, as long as we don't start talking and taking action to hurt other people, or taking arms, I think that'd be a slippery slope.
02:17:53.000In fact, guys, when you print him articles about the NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act, the Indeposit Commentatus, they say the troops can operate anywhere in the U.S.
02:18:02.000and arrest citizens and never give you a trial.
02:18:05.000You know, I think that if you talk to military leadership in this country, they would not feel, a lot of their senior leaders would not feel comfortable being involved in police actions within the confines of the continental United States.
02:18:41.000Dan Rather would do this all the time and shows how popular this guy was.
02:18:44.000No, what he failed to tell the American people is that on every block there was a block captain for the defense of the revolution and that block captain took notes to see who didn't go.
02:18:57.000and made a celebration where it didn't go.
02:18:58.000If your kid was in medical school, the next day they'd find themselves working the sugar cane fields.
02:19:02.000And so that's how they got people to go to those things, not because they loved the revolution, like some of these people that try to fantasize and romanticize communism.
02:19:13.000You know, if it was so great, so many thousands of Cubans wouldn't die trying to cross the strait every year, trying to get out of that place. - Well, look what Chavez has done now.
02:19:21.000He's really wrecked Venezuela. - That's sad, that's sad. - And he uses the military domestically.
02:19:27.000And so, I think they would, you know, people can plan for whatever they want, but the American people will have the final say when it's all said and done.
02:19:35.000We're going to skip this network break here and continue.
02:20:17.000See, I wish the feds were nice and friendly like you.
02:20:20.000Well, I think that you build trust by talking to people and having a dialogue.
02:20:29.000You know, it's like our intelligence center.
02:20:30.000Everybody was assured that we created the Austin Regional Intelligence Center that the skeptics thought that it's there to spy on, you know, law-abiding Americans.
02:20:41.000And what's really interesting is if you haven't been there, you should come and visit.
02:21:05.000How many face scanning and license plate reading cameras are here in Austin?
02:21:11.000How many of the gunshot detectors that never catch anybody firing a firearm that, by the way, are really microphones listening to people?
02:21:19.000I mean, are you aware that Homeland Security's putting microphones up hidden in light poles all over the country?
02:21:24.000No, but live shot, because we are a safe city, I'm glad to say that as much as people have tried to sell those to us, we have not bought them.
02:21:39.000Gunshot detectors, they're microphones to listen to people.
02:21:41.000Well, I mean, I'm sure that they could be multi-use if they wanted to, but the bottom line is we haven't bought them here.
02:21:47.000License plate readers, you might not like it, but I like LPRs because it's a good technology to catch.
02:21:52.000If you look at Britain, what happens is if you go into small towns, they've been fighting Thanks to the troubles in Northern Ireland over the years.
02:22:00.000They've been fighting terrorism for many years.
02:22:03.000They've had a lot of people die over the years with explosions and stuff.
02:22:06.000But if you go into a British town, there's license plate readers at the entrance to most of those smaller towns.
02:22:11.000And if the vehicle's wanted for a crime or it's stolen, within minutes the police can actually apprehend that person because of that technology.
02:22:19.000So, I mean, technology in and of itself is not evil.
02:22:59.000What would Hitler have done with face scanning systems and license plate readers?
02:23:05.000Exactly, but it's not the technology that's evil.
02:23:08.000Could your family have escaped Cuba or other families if Fidel Castro had that then?
02:23:15.000I mean, they have fences, they have everything and people... The point is the courts let the violent criminals and bad ones go over and over again.
02:23:22.000We know it's like 5% of the population that's causing almost all the crime.
02:23:59.000I invited the ACLU to be on it, they declined.
02:24:02.000But it's because we want to show them that we want, you know, to me, having that level of accountability and transparency helps me build trust, one.
02:24:12.000And two, it helps us create an environment where the misuse of the data or some rogue officer or something goes off sideways.
02:24:23.000I want to have those checks and balances to make sure we're doing things right.
02:24:54.000Ten years ago, and I have a clip of it in my film Road to Tyranny, it showed Austin police in the elementary schools going, you can get up to $200 for reporting crime.
02:26:10.000We have protocol we follow here to make sure that we don't hit the wrong houses, to make sure that we don't just trust blindly that you have to build a case.
02:26:35.000But terrorism, you got a better chance of dying from a honeybee sting.
02:26:39.000I've been at the airport now and left my bag to go over and get napkins or something 20 feet away and watch people starting to freak out.
02:26:46.000I mean, it's like people are just completely scared of everything.
02:26:49.000Well, I don't know, they're completely scared, but I think... These new See Something, See Something ads, you know, it like shows a guy put his bag down, the woman's like, hey, you, ahh!
02:26:57.000And then they got bomb teams out and robots.
02:26:59.000But the reality is, there are people who would like to do us harm, and the bottom line is, I think that as long as we collectively as Americans are all responsible for the safety and security of our nation, and that means that the reason Austin, despite the fact that we have fewer police officers in most cities our size, We have 2 officers per every 1,000 residents.
02:27:22.000The national average for big cities, which is 500,000 or more people, is 2.7 per 1,000.
02:27:27.000The national average nationwide, when you consider all 18 to 19,000 police departments, is 2.4 per 1,000 residents.
02:27:33.000We're at 2 per 1,000 is because we have a highly educated community, an engaged community, and a community that stands up for its neighbors.
02:27:42.000And when they see something, you know, they see somebody breaking in, they call.
02:27:46.000No, I know, but I don't know if we need Janet Napolitano to tell us if we see something, say something.
02:27:51.000If I see something, I do say something.
02:27:53.000I remember when I lived over in South Austin, this gas station went from being a nice gas station to being horrible.
02:27:59.000And then I noticed there was no food on the shelves or anything being sold, and they were running whores out the front door.
02:28:04.000And I pulled up to a cop and said, hey, that's obviously a whorehouse right there.
02:28:08.000And I don't know whatever happened because I ended up moving, but that was right over there off William Cannon.
02:28:13.000Yeah, the bottom line is that this community is our eyes and ears.
02:28:18.000When you worry about people trying the vendetta, I saw a V for Vendetta out there on one of your screens.
02:28:24.000When it's a personal vendetta, we're not going to take action.
02:28:27.000SWAT team's not going to go hit a house based on one guy saying, hey, I think this is going on.
02:28:32.000And if somebody says something and makes it up, And we demonstrate they made it up.
02:29:06.000Yeah, I think that, uh, is this talking about, uh, American residents that are citizens becoming enemy combatant, combatants overseas or something?
02:29:13.000Yeah, but, but, no, no, they've expanded it to domestically, and just basically anybody they want.
02:29:18.000Well, they, there's, there's, there's three, uh, there are three different branches of government, right?
02:29:24.000Executive, legislative, and, uh, and executive, and I think that... Judicial, yeah.
02:29:29.000And judicial, and so, I think the judiciary might have a different view, and we'll see what they say.
02:29:33.000But, I mean, as a police chief, does that creep you out?
02:29:36.000To just indefinitely hold somebody without evidence and without a hearing?
02:29:49.000I'm pretty darn... You always... You don't ever want to say 100% because until I see what's going on and actually see it in... Alright, stay there.
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02:33:53.000Okay, Police Chief Art Acevedo is here with this very nice guy, and he is engaging with the public, and he's saying that he doesn't want American citizens to be indefinitely detained.
02:34:04.000KBR, and I mentioned this earlier, Kellogg Brown and Root of Halliburton, and I have the links to the Wall Street Journal here, built camps in 2006 for civil emergency.
02:34:18.000And then now they're putting out the secret bids, we were sent the information, we have copies of it all, to prepare within 72 hours notice, whenever they pull the trigger, people are paid to be on notice, to man the camps.
02:34:31.000And it's got barbed wire, it's got barricades, it's got it all right there.
02:34:38.000You're as bad as a lot of people are on those phones.
02:34:51.000I guess, do you really want me to say it?
02:34:52.000Somebody says, I think your appearance on Alex Jones is, uh, improving his ratings has got me to tune in.
02:34:59.000You were saying some of your buddies from Los Angeles, listen, or San Diego.
02:35:03.000John Meadors is a dear friend that I worked with for a long time.
02:35:07.000He was a sergeant in the CHP that retired a couple years ago.
02:35:11.000The first time I appeared with you, within the next day, I got a message from him.
02:35:16.000He was really happy to see me interacting with you.
02:35:18.000Well, he knows me anyway, so he knows where my heart's at.
02:35:21.000Well, you know, when we give the number out for police to call in, they call in and around the country and confirm what we're saying about the feds and checkpoints and things.
02:35:28.000I mean, there are now TSA checkpoints with the Army going on in at least a dozen states.
02:35:34.000Would you like to drive up to an Army checkpoint in the middle of Tennessee?
02:35:52.000And twice, the nice buses, tour buses we were on, got stopped, and the army shook down the drivers.
02:35:58.000Yeah, that's... I think we've got plenty of professional law enforcement officers that I don't see anything on the horizon that we can't handle.
02:36:08.000Well, then why do you think the Feds are moving for this?
02:36:13.000The Feds have been taken over by those big mega-banks that are going to implode the country.
02:36:18.000Well, I think, you know, what's funny is the Occupy Austin movement, they're screaming at us, and I'm like, do you realize we're the hired help?
02:36:28.000I mean, our cops, if you look at what's going on to public employee pensions, they're trying to take those away on a national level, and I just really think that it's a shame.
02:36:44.000Some of my buddies work in a police department in another state, and I won't say which one it is, but what's happened is that a lot of money was taken from the employee pension system so the local government can build all these other things they wanted to do, so they underfunded it, right?
02:37:02.000And then they turn around and they blame No, no, Portugal is now taking people's private pension funds.
02:37:14.000So all these mainline conservatives are like, take all the pension funds, the public ones, wait until they have their private ones taken.
02:37:20.000Well, what people don't get is that, you know, you look and you attack public employee pensions when the economy's tanking because there's a lot of angry Americans out there and rightfully so.
02:37:30.000Right, and it's easy to find people who turn into villains, but I think we've got to be real careful because at the end of the day, we're all the hired help.
02:37:40.000Well, we can debate pensions and all this all day, but if you have 1.5 quadrillion in fake derivatives these banks made, and you know, selling mortgages a hundred times and all this, then that's the black hole that can't be paid back, and the media keeps making it like it's pensions and things that are causing it.
02:38:25.000We like to make fun of Mexico and other countries, but we're just a little bit more sophisticated here, that's all.
02:38:30.000Well, exactly, and talking to the mortgage experts, that was only one level of the fraud.
02:38:35.000Once they had that mortgage, they would then leverage that out, in some cases, a hundred times.
02:38:40.000Sell it and resell it, and everybody's making money, everybody's getting commissions, everybody's lining their pockets, and at the end of the day, The American taxpayer got held holding the bag and there's been very little accountability.
02:38:51.000If I apply for a loan and I put false information on there, I've committed fraud.
02:38:57.000Or I've committed perjury, depending on how the wording is on the loan app.
02:39:01.000And my humble opinion is if I give out a loan knowing darn well that you aren't really qualified for that loan, knowing that that loan is going to eventually end up in default, I don't see how that's not fraud.
02:39:13.000And, you know, I can see why people are angry.
02:39:27.000People talk about police officers all day.
02:39:29.000They talk about the good, the bad and the ugly because in history, when things collapse, the police are the ones that are going to be asked to go out and do.
02:39:37.000And the leadership of the government are a bunch of crooks.
02:39:41.000I can show you 10 clips of them admitting they grow the opium in Afghanistan.
02:40:44.000MF Global, former New Jersey Governor, former head of Goldman Sachs, he knowingly took 50,000 plus private brokerage accounts that are sequestered, the word is segregated, federal law, you can't take them.
02:40:55.000He just took them a month and a half ago and didn't get in trouble.
02:40:59.000I mean, do you feel safe having a government like that?
02:41:03.000I would just say that I think there's room for improvement in government at all levels, including state, local, county.
02:41:11.000It's like there's room for improvement in my police department.
02:41:14.000You know, we're not perfect, and every day I always tell my people we need to strive to do better, and I think that doing better starts with the recognition that things aren't perfect.
02:41:23.000They're not perfect anywhere, and that we should seize each day as an opportunity to do a little better, and that's what we try to do at the Austin Police Department.
02:41:31.000Well, where do you see things going then under federalization?
02:41:38.000What's your view of the Tenth Amendment?
02:41:42.000I really believe strongly in states' rights.
02:41:44.000You know, one of the things that I talked about when When we had this so-called sanctuary city debate at the state legislature last year, is that I found it was kind of disingenuous for a state legislature that screams and yells at Washington about state rights on a regular basis.
02:42:08.000They then turn around and try to dictate to the cities, local municipalities, that understand what the needs are in that local community, what the priorities are for that local community, and then turn around and say that we can't manage our own resources as a police department or as a city.
02:42:27.000I really believe that state rights are important and it's kind of interesting when I look at some of the legislative policies that are passed around the country.
02:42:36.000Uh, by legislatures that, and legislative bodies that always speak about state rights, scream and yell at Washington about state rights, and then turn around and do this to cities and counties the same thing that they accused the federal government of doing to them.
02:43:49.000Okay, have you heard about the different Explorer Scout programs where they train the 14 year olds in every drill to take on disgruntled veterans and kill them?
02:43:58.000I can tell you that I have an Explorer, that I started the Explorer Scouts here when I got here in 2007 because we have a tremendous problem with high school dropout and teenage pregnancy and everything else in the state and the city.
02:44:11.000And we don't teach our Explorers how to kill anybody.
02:44:14.000We teach them about respect, we teach them about the law.
02:45:02.000I mean, I'm just saying, if you want to know why I'm concerned, I've been to urban warfare drills and witnessed Marines training to take on American gunners.
02:45:11.000But is that urban warfare drill designed by the Marine Corps to fight here, or is it to fight in Iraq?
02:45:25.000And then the PR guy's like, you're not supposed to be here, Jones, because I would, you know, get into, like, the training area, and then they would suddenly not want me to see it.
02:47:11.000Well, I know, I'm not living up to what he thought he'd see here.
02:47:14.000I'm just depressed watching this happen.
02:47:16.000So, I mean, I just hope that police chiefs around the country will uphold the Bill of Rights and Constitution.
02:47:21.000Well, I can tell you I spend a lot of time, I meet with my colleagues in the major city chiefs meetings around the country and it would take a lot for us to say we wanted the military to be patrolling our streets.
02:47:35.000The sky will actually literally have to be falling before we would say that.
02:47:43.000We are peace officers, that's why we write peace officer on our ID cards to remind our officers that we're all about keeping the peace, maintaining peace, restoring peace, and securing the peace here.
02:47:54.000I think that American law enforcement, although not perfect and not equally As good around the country.
02:48:00.000You know, people like to say we're a bad police department, and I also like to tell them, you know, the reason you think we're bad is you have no point of reference.
02:48:06.000I'll take them on field trips where I can tell you they'll be very thankful to be policed in the state of New York.
02:48:10.000Oh, I'll tell you we're as bad as New York City.
02:48:11.000Well, I'm not going to tell you which ones I think, but I will tell you that I tell my critics, if you have no point of reference, you can't appreciate what you truly have.
02:48:19.000I believe... Have you been around New York cops?
02:48:38.000I've talked to Austin police that have asked directions and been told, do I look like a phone book?
02:48:43.000Well, yeah, I've experienced some of that before from some of the departments, but I always tell people that take a look at who the Department of Justice, at some of the departments that are under investigation and end up in consent decrees.
02:49:03.000They took a look at us up and down, side to side.
02:49:06.000And despite the fact that that same Department of Justice has placed other police agencies under consent decrees because they found patterns and practices of unconstitutional policing or use of excessive force, I'm very proud of the fact that our department withstood that scrutiny, that we actually embraced the scrutiny, that we actually considered the DOJ as an extra set of eyes, an opportunity for us to do better, and I really believe that now in 2011, quickly approaching 2012,
02:49:33.000we're a better department as a result of going through that process, and I can say with a straight face that I believe we're a better department as a result of going through that process, and I can say with a straight face that I believe the police Well, I have to agree, but I still don't like the police taking blood.
02:50:09.000I'm just saying that, you know, looking at all this...
02:50:13.000What you just said, though, the Department of Justice, I happen to know, and it's covered in this film, The Noble Lie with the Survivors, that the head of the Justice Department was the deputy head of the Justice Department and was intimately involved covering up this false flag terror event.
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02:55:42.000And why are you trying to actually have the police interface with the public and not have that separation?
02:55:48.000I see a lot of departments actually want that.
02:55:50.000Well, I think because, you know, my background, my communist background from a totalitarian government, I really see, I think policing is a big, important part of democracy and of freedom, you know, we have to do it right.
02:56:06.000And I think in order for us to be successful as police officers, we have to have the trust And support and cooperation of the community that we serve.
02:56:16.000And so I spend a lot of hours every week trying to build that trust and support.
02:56:22.000And one of the things I think people realize about me is that we're not always going to agree on everything, but I think that most people know that my heart's in the right place and that's important.
02:56:30.000Yeah, well, certainly spoken from the heart there.
02:56:33.000What about you got cut off by the brake chief when I was bringing up the Justice Department, our little friendly Oklahoma City Bombers, and of course that's quite a claim, but I can prove it.
02:56:45.000But I mean, Mr. Holder's been caught shipping the guns into Mexico and caught perjuring himself.
02:56:49.000So how are they going to come down to Austin and basically, you know, check under our fingernails?
02:56:56.000Well, the bottom line is that they have found unconstitutional practices or practices in other cities where they've actually sued police departments to do better.
02:57:09.000That's like when the police department is the Ku Klux Klan or something in the 60s.
02:57:14.000The city of LA was put under a consent decree.
02:57:17.000New Orleans I believe is already under a consent decree.
02:57:20.000I think that Miami a while back got sued.
02:57:23.000I'm not sure which departments but I know there have been quite a few around the country.
02:57:27.000So the bottom line is, it's not like they come and just rubber stamp local police agencies.
02:57:32.000So I'm proud of the fact that we were able to withstand that scrutiny, because I think that although we're not perfect as an organization, the collective heart of our department is good, we have good people, and we're all trying to do the right thing.
02:57:46.000But I get federal oversight, but then the states more and more have no oversight.
02:57:50.000How do we, used to, back when we had that, our states elected the senators, the legislatures did.
02:57:56.000And they got rid of that with the 17th Amendment.
02:57:58.000So how do we have a check and balance on the Feds?
02:58:01.000Well, I think that we all have to pay attention to what's going on.
02:58:04.000I mean, I'll be honest with you, one of the things I think has really been tough for this country is that we've carved up congressional districts so they're all safe for either the left, the D's or the R's, but they're all safe.
02:58:18.000The majority of Americans, we're pragmatic people, we like to find the middle ground, and so I think that one of the things that has made it challenging for us as Americans is that You know, when you don't have to answer to the voters because you're in a safe seat, you get to have extreme views and you don't have to be pragmatic and you don't have to try to find that common ground with everybody.
02:58:40.000And so, I think one of the things that we, that I would like to see as an American is to have congressional districts that are... Tell you what, finish your statement back in one minute.
03:00:32.000Alright, I've got to run over there and get you in the TV interview area, because you've got to leave in like 15 minutes, but I didn't want you to be cut off there.
03:00:37.000Police Chief Arte Cerveda, then we'll go back to the rebroadcast from the first hour with the FEMA camps in America now being manned.
03:01:33.000I like some of the things he has to say, some of the things I agree with, some of the things I don't, but he's fun to watch.
03:01:39.000In closing, I haven't talked to you since the Joe Stack thing, and that was certainly a tragedy, but what was it like being at that event?
03:01:48.000Well, I, the media wanted to turn that into, they wanted me to use a terrorist, you know, this is a terrorist thing so we can, we can scare the heck out of everybody and my number one goal that day was once I figured out, we figured out that it appeared to be one person that was angry, that was my, my cell phone, somebody's texting me.
03:02:12.000Once we figured out early on that investigation appeared to be an isolated incident, I felt that my number one responsibility was to insure and reassure Americans they didn't have to worry about a bunch of little small planes going all over the country crashing into buildings.
03:02:25.000Yeah, well I do have a love-hate relationship with you because you're a nice guy, you come in, you make a lot of good points, you're charismatic, you have a good vibe.
03:02:33.000I don't feel like you're a bad guy when I'm around you.
03:02:35.000I'm not here like Bram Poobah judging you.
03:02:37.000It's just that you don't have that normal, you know, fake authoritarian thing that a lot of police chiefs try to put on.
03:02:43.000It's just, you know, but I did notice that the media did try to get you to turn it into a fear-mongering, Al Qaeda's under every table, let's get hysterical.
03:02:50.000And actually, if that would have gotten hyped up bigger, copycats probably would have started doing it.
03:02:56.000And I know that some people tried... I got some criticism because they said, had that been a Middle Eastern person, I would have termed it terrorism.
03:03:03.000And I can tell you, just like I told some of these advocacy groups, that absolutely not.
03:03:24.000And he used the word terrorism that day.
03:03:28.000It would have created a lot of anxiety for a lot of Americans and I wasn't about to do that when I knew it was an isolated incident by one crazy guy who went postal.
03:03:39.000Well that's certainly good news that you did that.
03:03:42.000You know, Rob Dew has been in a lot of bands and actually Joe Stack was years ago in a band and he said the guy was really nice.