Iowa Gov. Bruce Rauner says Ron Paul should not be allowed to run for president in the upcoming primary election. Ron Paul is a conservative who has been a presidential candidate for over 20 years. He is a former military contractor who served in the Reagan administration and the Bush administration. He has been on the campaign trail supporting other presidential candidates such as Hillary Clinton and Rick Perry.
00:00:23.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
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00:00:31.000Well, you knew the attacks on Ron Paul were going to kick into high gear now that in Iowa and other states, he's in first or second in all the major polls.
00:00:50.000But now the Iowa governor, the Republican establishment rhino, big government individual, is coming out and saying ignore a Ron Paul win and he himself is trying to derail the Iowa caucuses and claiming that it's Ron Paul's fault and saying it's going to be discredited forever now to try to make Iowans hate Ron Paul, which I guess means hate themselves because they're supporting him.
00:01:19.000I mean, you talk about mind control, you talk about selling trendiness and what's in style, being a slave, being in debt, being lied to, supporting banker bailouts, supporting all these illegal wars, supporting the overthrow of the Bill of Rights and Constitution, and they always say, the troops want more war!
00:01:39.000And of course, in every major poll, over 70% are against it, and Ron Paul gets over 70% of the donations, from Democrats and Republicans.
00:01:48.000Compared to the other candidates, it's the same thing.
00:01:50.000You know the troops love war and want more.
00:01:53.000The troops don't like you, but the facts don't show that.
00:01:56.000Oh my gosh, Ron Paul is discrediting the Iowa caucuses.
00:02:33.000They could have some success on this unless we really expose what they're doing because there's nothing mainline Republicans are more into than going to their fake church and thinking it's the end of the world and never fighting corruption or tyranny and basically just going with whoever Fox News tells them.
00:02:52.000They're like, Newt Gingrich is for global government, open borders and carbon taxes and Obamacare.
00:03:06.000And if a Republican governor says it, you're going to destroy our state's reputation.
00:03:12.000If you vote for Ron Paul, he's a bad, nasty man for being right all these years about everything and staying the course and always voting the way he said he would.
00:03:21.000And it's just terrible he's going to win.
00:03:23.000We told you he didn't exist and he was a piece of garbage and everything else, but now just ignore the win.
00:03:29.000And they go on to say, Paul poses an existential threat to the state's cherished kickoff status.
00:04:04.000I mean, the Democrats had people dress up as racist and run around once he got the nomination.
00:04:09.000The Republicans tried some of the same stuff.
00:04:11.000Banker bailout, you know, big banks just poured money into his competition, but they failed because we've passed that flux point, that Rubicon.
00:04:20.000At which they're so discredited that if they say something about you horrible, people have enough basic instinct and common sense to go, you mean the lying corrupt system that's been caught lying thousands of times and got us into this mess?
00:04:36.000They're saying he's bad and oh my gosh, I better not go there?
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00:08:45.000Uh, claim that he is just a horrible person, uh, trying to influence people and telling them, don't throw your vote away, don't throw your vote away, don't, don't discredit Iowa.
00:08:54.000I mean, new levels of them trying to invoke trendiness, uh, in people and, and the self-fulfilling prophecy of resistance is futile, you can't have Ron Paul.
00:09:04.000But it shows, just like with Rand Paul, that this is boomeranging back on them.
00:09:11.000Here's Politico, will Ron Paul kill the caucuses?
00:09:14.000Iowa governor comes out and says, ignore Ron Paul win, ignore our state, and says our state is discredited, and then blames it on Ron Paul.
00:09:25.000That'd be like going to a party, climbing up on top of the table, defecating in the punchbowl, and then pointing your finger at someone else, as everybody knows you just did it, and saying, he did it!
00:09:52.000Getting ready a week and a half away from this, and if he wins it, he's gonna be half a revolution around the track ahead of the competition.
00:10:05.000The vast majority of the time, if you win the Iowa caucus, you end up getting the nomination of the party.
00:10:12.000And he is up there saying this discredits our state, this discredits everything, and it's Ron Paul's fault.
00:10:19.000When it's just a total, totally made up, as they've always said he can't win, and they've always said he isn't going anywhere, when he's in first, second, or third place in every poll in the last six months.
00:10:30.000We've shown you studies, scientific studies, Pew Research, breakdowns of that from Texas universities, we've had the Anthropologist slash sociologist statistician's in.
00:10:59.000It's like you take your kids to get fish at the pet store, and they want some really expensive exotic fish, or, you know, some saltwater fish, and you're like, no, that's a saltwater fish.
00:11:44.000And then even worse, if it's possible, Newt Gingrich.
00:11:48.000Open, aluminous, world government, end of the family, end of America, New World Order speeches, carbon taxes, Hillarycare supporting, oh yes, his own little version of it, on and on and on.
00:12:03.000He's loyal opposition to the New World Order.
00:12:17.000We have Politico, AP, Reuters, the talk show host, all attacking him, saying Ron Paul is ruining Iowa and ruining the state's importance.
00:12:28.000And now they're telling the voters that, you know what?
00:12:31.000Ron Paul is ruining our state as the kickoff.
00:12:34.000He's discrediting us as the fact that whoever wins Iowa normally wins the nomination, except in, what, two cases in the last hundred years or more.
00:12:43.000And I tell you, it's just terrible what he did!
00:12:47.000And Ron Paul's sitting there, a man of honor, a man of integrity, saying the same thing 30 years ago that he said today.
00:12:55.000We're putting a video together showing that in speeches he gave, TV appearances, interviews he did right here in Austin, Texas on AXS TV in 1988 about drug prohibition, government drug dealing, New World Order, government engineering AIDS virus.
00:13:45.000And so they're playing this mind game, this insulting game.
00:13:50.000It's like when I saw those news articles in the last few days, Bloomberg, Weekly Standard, all attacking the fact that Alex Jones is a supporter of Ron Paul.
00:14:00.000And Ron Paul will not disavow him and goes on his radio show.
00:14:13.000Just vicious attacks, that's just a few of them.
00:14:16.000And then meanwhile, in the very same publications there's articles about, well, they have gotten rid of posse comitatus and we'll be putting probes on the streets and citizens can be secretly arrested and disappear, but it's all for our security.
00:14:34.000He says that the government brings in narcotics and then Bloomberg linked to Ron Paul giving a speech about it and an article we wrote.
00:14:43.000It's almost like they're patriots or something.
00:14:47.000are like publishing this stuff thinking their masters won't realize, because I know this has happened in some cases, I've been told behind the scenes, that actually when they then link to us, people go and see the truth.
00:14:57.000Because every comment on the Bloomberg article, every comment of hundreds, and I read through most of them, I couldn't believe it, at like 5 a.m. this morning when I woke up, hundreds and hundreds of comments were all seeing right through them.
00:15:09.000Because the Bloomberg article attacking myself and Ron Paul linked to a data page with all the congressional C-SPAN hearings admitting government drug dealing and the aircraft crashing, Reuters full of cocaine, the CIA and the CIA being caught over and over again.
00:15:26.000All the reports and everything Ron Paul's talking about.
00:15:28.000I mean, Ron Paul is talking about admitted things that came out in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and right through to today.
00:15:38.000And it's so ham-fisted when the system attacks us that you're like, do they really think people are buying this?
00:15:45.000Ron Paul believes the military is being trained to deploy in America.
00:15:49.000This is the type of unstable craziness that we deal with, and that's why it's good that they're going to try to bar him from some of the future Republican debates, because this man is absolutely dangerous.
00:16:02.000And then they link to Infowars.com with just links everywhere to mainstream news admitting it.
00:16:10.000So now they're trying this new game, which is a twist on the old game of saying, Ron Paul, we're all very prideful in Iowa.
00:16:22.000For a hundred plus years, the nation has looked to Iowa first as a bellwether, as who was going to have the starting position and who was favored to win.
00:16:34.000And in 80 plus percent of the time, that person has gotten the presidential nomination against the incumbent presidential candidate.
00:16:48.000It will discredit all of the primaries because he might win those too.
00:16:56.000It'd be like if a boxer got in the ring and they're saying he can never win, he's the underdog, and he gets up there and in two or three rounds knocks the other guy out and they're like, well that discredits this fighter!
00:17:05.000That discredits his, uh, this entire arena and this entire, uh, boxing system!
00:17:15.000It'd be like if a team won the Super Bowl and they said, well, this discredits the NFL forever.
00:17:20.000That dirty team that won the Super Bowl, they've discredited everything.
00:17:25.000Coming from behind and winning, something must be wrong.
00:17:53.000And so the establishment Republicans that vote for the bailouts and the open borders and everything else, all this garbage who voted for the TSA to grab your wife's breasts and stick their hand down your pants and put you in microwave ovens.
00:18:07.000These globalist traitors, bought and paid for, for chicken feed, think that we're so weak-minded, and think Iowans are so weak-minded.
00:18:26.000Gary Allen, who wrote None Dare Call Conspiracy, and friends with Ron Paul, they've got to be ashamed of looking down from heaven at what his son has done with Politico.
00:18:53.000Conservatives, oh conservatives yes, you mean rhino globalists, and Republican elites in the state are divided over who to support for the GOP nomination.
00:19:03.000But they almost uniformly express concern over the prospect that Ron Paul and his army of activist supporters may capture the State 2012 nomination contest, an outcome many fear would do irreparable harm to the future role of the first in the nation caucuses.
00:19:19.000The spin rooms, the bar rooms, the online forums, the what to do about Ron Paul conversation has become pervasive as polls show him on or near the top just weeks before the January 3rd vote.
00:19:32.000Paul poses an existential threat to the state's cherished kickoff status.
00:19:37.000Oh, look what he did in the punch bowl.
00:19:41.000He went out and fought with ideas and is winning.
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00:24:38.000So the system has gone into absolute panic mode, and is talking to the people of Iowa like they're children.
00:24:46.000Oh, don't vote for that Ron Paul, you know, you'll be discredited.
00:24:49.000Oh my gosh, that Ron Paul wrote that AIDS might have been manufactured to kill black people, and you know why he wrote that in his newsletter?
00:24:57.000It's because he doesn't like black people.
00:24:59.000Yes, and his son worships Aqua Buddha and kidnaps women.
00:25:17.000Ron Paul's supporter calls black people monkeys.
00:25:21.000I saw that as a national news headline yesterday.
00:25:25.000So you can just go out into the street And randomly find some crazy person and I guess have them say, a crazy person say, Obama wants to eat white babies.
00:25:38.000And if a crazy person says it, Obama's guilty because the guy said, you know, that Obama should eat white babies.
00:25:45.000I mean, this is the biggest guilt by association crud that I've ever seen, but that's not working.
00:25:51.000So now they're going into, oh my gosh.
00:25:53.000I mean, think about on the surface of it, how asinine it is.
00:25:58.000To have the governor come out and say our caucuses are discredited and Iowa is going to lose its place as the most important political kickoff point in the United States.
00:26:15.000A central pillar of the political system in this country.
00:26:21.000He's saying that to terrorize the political process And to engage in dirty tricks.
00:27:00.000The anonymous group, which is whoever the government wants to say they are, It's just a honeypot to set people up.
00:27:06.000Anonymous says that they're going to attack the caucuses, and then gives no reason why.
00:27:13.000And now the FBI has to come in and oversee the tallying there at the different caucuses as they add it up, because it's an old-fashioned voice vote.
00:27:23.000But they'll tabulate that, and the government will oversee, I guess, the computer, the calculator, where they add it up.
00:27:31.000Oh, because the cut-out group Anonymous, which is just a domestic term like Al-Qaeda, is this fake Muslim cut-out that they can use as a sock puppet to menace people and take their liberties.
00:27:43.000Now, oh my gosh, the GOP is so concerned, AP reports, Iowa GOP worried by hacker threat to caucus vote.
00:27:54.000And now, because they've associated Anonymous with all these good causes, and there's good people involved in it, who took the bait.
00:28:02.000Just like Occupy Wall Street is just this blanket cutout where they can then project the establishment can, whatever they want, onto anybody that's part of that diverse group who arrives.
00:28:13.000They say, well, arrive at this street corner if you want to fight for liberty and freedom.
00:28:20.000And then the government's waiting there to do something horrible and blame it on you when you show up.
00:28:24.000That's basically what these anonymous cutouts are.
00:28:27.000That's what's so dangerous about them.
00:28:28.000That's why you need to put your John Hancock on the Declaration of Independence and be public.
00:28:33.000Never run around in the dark in a militia with people saying, we're doing stuff that's illegal.
00:28:38.000We might have to get ready for war with the government.
00:28:42.000You're being led by a Fed who's trying to see if he can trick you to do something or just get enough fake evidence on you to put you on the news.
00:28:49.000If you want to train as a militia secretly to defend the Republic, that's one thing, but it needs to be people you know and trust, as Ron Paul said in his newsletters a long time ago.
00:29:01.000And then you don't talk about offensive action, as Ron Paul said.
00:29:05.000Never shoot first, defend your family.
00:29:07.000But if you want to be a public organization that's above board and has soup kitchens for people, and wears urban camo, a suit and tie, that's the way to go.
00:29:18.000And tell people train for military readiness, to fight criminals, tyrants.
00:29:23.000The government says get ready for the border to collapse and 30 million more illegals to pour in.
00:29:27.000They're getting the FEMA camps ready, as if the government can do that.
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00:33:24.000We're here live back Sundays 4 to 6 live Okay, we're going to be joined in just a moment by Lord Christopher Monckton via video Skype.
00:33:34.000He joined us last week from Durban, South Africa and helped circulate the draft of the new global treaty the UN is trying to get that is a death sentence for over a billion people, cutting off their resources.
00:33:48.000It is a eugenics, population reduction, cult, post-industrialist group.
00:33:55.000But as they begin to be routed, they are simply going more and more to what they've called for in the Guardian, green fascism.
00:34:03.000Arresting, as the White House regulations are, has said, Cass Sunstein, those of us that do not believe in anthropogenic global warming, man-made global warming.
00:34:12.000But they've simply moved to a new weapons system, because that propaganda has been discredited, to any climate change.
00:34:22.000Uh, being abnormal, and the only thing that is normal is change, and a constant state of it.
00:34:26.000And have shifted to sustainable development, smart growth, that was always the next phase.
00:34:32.000And here in Austin, it's selective enforcement.
00:34:35.000Uh, when you leave as a former mayor here, Then literally take over private banks that control the land you stole.
00:34:46.000Here in Austin, Texas, they've taken more than 50,000 acres of people's property.
00:34:50.000On average, five years after stealing it in an environmental land grab.
00:34:53.000Because they can't get it federally, they just do it locally.
00:34:55.000And that's what Schwarzenegger said two years ago at Copenhagen.
00:34:58.000He said, we'll just go to the governors and the mayors and county commissioners.
00:35:03.000And they come in, they seize the land, farms, ranches, development zones.
00:35:08.000And then have their environmental boards remove the restrictions after it's in government trust and then it's sold to them publicly.
00:35:18.000I mean, this is crime out in the open.
00:35:20.000It's what the Chinese are revolting against and taking over major towns and cities in China over the Communist Party taking property and then later giving it to themselves.
00:35:29.000I mean, it is just brazen criminality.
00:35:31.000Look, 99% of the people at the mid and high levels of environmentalism are just wicked control freaks who are stealing property.
00:36:24.000I have video later of in California and other areas, people try to speak politely at city council now, and are being arrested, or threatened with arrest.
00:36:32.000If they criticize government in any way, they say, that is not allowed!
00:36:40.000But after we talk about this and get a quick update from our Monk and I'm gonna get his take because he's also run for high office.
00:36:45.000He's been in the highest levels, top advisor to Margaret Thatcher, award-winning journalist in his own right.
00:36:51.000But he stood for high office in Scotland and they just totally ignored him there.
00:36:58.000And they've done that blackout with Ron Paul, but it hasn't worked.
00:37:01.000And so now they're saying if you let him win Iowa, you have discredited the electoral process, which is an attack on the election system.
00:37:11.000And I've got a report coming out very soon on that, so we'll get his take on that.
00:37:14.000But I saw a Fox News article that was basically telling us a week later what Moncton had said was going to happen in.
00:37:21.000At Rio, coming up here, they are openly saying, and they admit here, they will take over development, manufacturing, everything, through the rubric of sustainable development, which the EPA says in documents allows them the power to do anything.
00:37:38.000They're not going to try to argue fake science now.
00:37:40.000They're just going to say, for the earth, or for the trees, you can't build.
00:37:44.000And here in Austin, Number one, Lord Monckton.
00:37:47.000They will now, if a tree is bigger than 10 inches around, up to 15 to 20, they have different variants, and you go to them for the voodoo, they won't let them build 10, 15, 20, 30, 40 story high rises, which actually, if you believe there's no room, are quote, sustainable, unless you're an insider.
00:38:04.000Now, if you pony up and pay them off and give their wives jobs, they're just open crooks, then you can cut down whatever you want.
00:38:11.000But if you've got Ugly, haggard trees, and you're offering to plant trees on the roof, doesn't matter.
00:38:21.000Unless you bow to them and pay them whatever they want.
00:38:24.000And then, if they've got a better offer, you're not going to get it anyways.
00:38:26.000Just like General Electric can build all the new power plants they want, everybody else is being shut down, so General Electric comes and says, you're going to be shut down in one month, shell dust for nothing.
00:38:36.000And people are like, here's the power plant, and the prices are doubling, they're laughing, they are a criminal mafia.
00:38:42.000Now I know I'm ranting here, because this is a time to rant.
00:39:10.000And I just can't break down his entire... He was the head of the policy unit number 10 Downing Street.
00:39:16.000He also worked for the Universe, the Sunday Telegraph, Today and the Evening Standard.
00:39:20.000And UKIP.org or ScienceOfPublicPolicy.org.
00:39:22.000Sir, I'm ranting and I appreciate you joining us and giving us your time.
00:39:26.000It's just to see them engaging in these crimes, it's becoming outrageous.
00:39:30.000And now that you and others have exposed them, they're upping the ante and declaring total power over everything.
00:39:35.000And they say they don't care what Congress or Parliament does, they rule.
00:39:39.000Well, of course, in the end, in a democracy like America, where no legislative power is supposed to go anywhere except Congress, Congress can take that power back.
00:39:52.000It can say to the EPA, enough is enough, no more messing about, if you want to exercise this kind of authority, you have to have a statute to do that, you haven't got one, and we're shutting you down.
00:40:05.000And actually now the EPA probably does more harm than good and it should actually be abolished.
00:40:29.000You can pretend to politicise it for a time but in the end the truth pokes through.
00:40:35.000One of my favorite examples of this is when Hitler didn't like the fact that Einstein, a Jew, had invented the theory of relativity.
00:40:45.000And so he got a hundred scientists loyal to the regime, the consensus, let's call them, to produce a book which was called A Hundred Scientists Against Einstein.
00:40:58.000And Einstein, who had had the sense to leave Germany by then and was safely in the United States, was asked by the press what he thought about this.
00:41:05.000And he said, gentlemen, it's really very simple.
00:41:08.000If I am wrong, it will only take a single paper by one scientist to demonstrate that.
00:41:15.000Doesn't matter how many scientists you line up in a row, that's not how science is done, he said.
00:41:21.000And of course, that's exactly the position we're in now.
00:41:23.000You have the scientists lining up with the state, the authorities, the EPA, saying, uh, the climate is all terrible, it's all gloom and doom, we're going to set the world on fire.
00:42:20.000I now have access to the first three major chapters that are being written for the next.
00:42:26.000IPCC quinquennial assessment report due out in somewhere towards the end of next year or the beginning of the year after that.
00:42:34.000And yet again they are trying to pretend that the amount of global warming we can expect to get if we double the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere by the end of this century, which we will, whatever they try to do about it, they're trying to say that will cause 3 or 4 or even 5 Celsius of warming, kind of 7, 8, 9, 10 Fahrenheit.
00:42:58.000It'll cause at most half of that, probably more like a third of that.
00:43:03.000But they're still desperately clinging by their fingernails to this bogus story, even though it's now quite clear that the climate isn't responding in the way they predicted.
00:43:14.000And let me give you a little vignette from Durban which illustrates how cheesily they're trying to cheat on the data, and they're succeeding in fooling your average politician who knows absolutely no science.
00:43:28.000I ran into, in the corridors there, the Secretary General of the World Meteorological Organization, a guy called Michel Jarreau.
00:43:36.000And I said to him, I've just heard you interviewed, and you were saying that the science is solid.
00:43:40.000This is the new speak for the science is settled.
00:43:43.000They're now saying the science is solid.
00:43:45.000And I said, but on the question of what's called climate sensitivity, the how much man-made global warming are we going to get question, I said the science is very far from solid.
00:43:54.000It's becoming quite evident now that we've had no global warming for a decade.
00:43:59.000The numbers are just not coming out the way you said they would.
00:44:03.000And the fact is there are very good reasons in the peer-reviewed literature why we now know it's not going to warm at the rate which the IPCC is trying to peddle and upon which the entire scare rests.
00:44:15.000And he said, oh, well, the trouble with you is, he said, you date all your graphs from 1998, when there was a big spike in global warming because of a natural event, the El Nino of that year.
00:45:12.000Well, he didn't really want to say anything very much.
00:45:14.000He was furious that he'd been caught out in this very devious way of trying to present things to say you have to go back to say nineteen seventy six that's when the natural warming from the pacific decadal oscillation began and it ended in two thousand and one.
00:45:31.000Let me stop you Lord Monckton you always get into science with these people but you know from the Club of Rome and the rest of it that the UN set up it's about power grabs and population reduction and of course he didn't want to talk to you because he knows I'm telling you Obviously you've attacked them on the science, and that's good, because they wear this laurel of paid-off scientist and say, oh, peer-reviewed.
00:45:55.000But at the end of the day, it's about a power grab.
00:45:57.000I'm telling you, in Austin, you don't build anything unless they say, I live under a Supreme Soviet.
00:46:04.000The way to stop this nonsense, though, is to fight them on the science and on the economics.
00:46:19.000What about the big announcement that you've gotten the internal documents, you know what's going to be in this new Rio thing coming up.
00:46:25.000Fox News says they've got some of the same information and are reporting that the EPA, rather than back off, is planning to just start shutting everything down.
00:46:36.000Well, that of course is what the EPA will do while Obama is still in the White House.
00:46:41.000And at least in America you can do something about that.
00:46:44.000You can vote out your leaders and vote in a new one.
00:46:47.000We can't do that here in the UK because our leaders are the unelected commissars of the European dictatorship.
00:46:53.000We have no control over them whatsoever.
00:46:55.000And they have just made a complete mess of the whole of Europe's finances.
00:46:59.000That's now washing over into the rest of the world.
00:47:04.000Greece will go into formal hard default on March the 12th.
00:47:10.000So if you want to short the Euro, make yourself a little money, from mid-February onwards, that would be a good thing to do.
00:47:16.000These people, their arrogance has long surpassed their abilities.
00:47:22.000And not only on financial matters, but also on climate matters, these people don't know what they're doing.
00:47:29.000And they're trying to grab more and more power, because otherwise people will find out and sack them.
00:47:35.000Well, the time is now coming where it's becoming blindingly obvious, as far as the climate is concerned, that we do not have a problem on anything like the scale they've been trying to pretend.
00:47:46.000It's quite, quite clear the climate simply isn't changing fast enough, anything like fast enough, to match their original... Yes sir, Lord Monckton, I mean, respectfully, Obviously you've done more than anybody to fight them and expose them.
00:47:59.000I agree with you facing them on the science, but I'm saying then they just make up new lies, then we've got to expose those, and clearly they're discredited.
00:48:08.000My point is the mafioso nature of government insiders shutting down coal plants In Europe, in the United States, that aren't part of the inside club, I think that point is particularly devastating.
00:48:21.000The proof that this is just a mafia demanding environmental protection money if you want the ability to engage in any human activity.
00:48:30.000The statements by this UN coterie of villainous vermin openly stating they want a post-industrial world, these are Just, just, just, they are unspeakably wicked!
00:48:53.000You know, you Google Moncton, you see this hate metal from all over the world, generated by these people, to try to destroy the reputations of anyone who dares to argue with them.
00:49:37.000They are comic strip characters, and they would love to take the world over using the environment as a sort of green fig leaf to hide behind.
00:49:52.000It's failing because they dared to try to politicise science, and the economics, for that matter.
00:49:57.000It's actually 20 to 100 times cheaper to sit back, enjoy the sunshine, and do nothing, than it is to try to do anything at all to try to make global warming go away.
00:50:10.000It really is cheaper just to leave it alone.
00:50:13.000And people are beginning to work this out.
00:50:15.000The scientific literature in the economic journals It's near unanimous in saying there's no point in spending any money on trying to make global warming go away, just money down the drain if you do.
00:50:25.000And gradually, even the dimmest politicians are beginning to realize that this is just a waste of money at a time when there isn't a lot of money in the kitty to waste.
00:50:35.000You know, you've got America going bust, Britain going bust, Europe going bust because of extravagant overspending by exactly this class.
00:50:43.000And environmental policies shutting down our industry.
00:50:47.000All of that, it all contributes to the loss of tax revenue, which makes the government's figures a great deal worse.
00:50:53.000So in the end, some very hard choices are going to have to be made quite soon by the electorate.
00:50:59.000And they're going to have to say, do we want to vote in a party which buys all this environment?
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00:55:16.000Now going back to Lord Christopher Monckton.
00:55:18.000Who's the head of public policy at the UK Independence Party, the fastest growing party in the UK because they oppose globalist tyranny.
00:55:27.000England has over 70% of its laws made by unelected bureaucrats.
00:55:30.000Now the bureaucrats are saying to Europe, you're going to give up whatever rights you had and give it to us.
00:55:35.000Through the fraud the banksters have induced, but something happened.
00:55:39.000James Cameron, who said he won't let the British people or the people of the UK vote on getting out of the Euro, He's now suddenly voting on Euro power grab.
00:55:55.000This is the influence of the United Kingdom Independence Party because 83 of David Cameron's backbenchers rebelled against him in a vote on Europe a few weeks ago in the House of Commons.
00:56:09.000And he began to realise that he is out of touch with his party on this issue.
00:56:15.000And if he stayed out of touch with it until the next election, and UKIP is still there standing against him, then we will take enough votes from his right wing, if you like, to make sure that he cannot ever win a general election with an overall majority.
00:56:31.000He couldn't do it last time because we took enough votes away from him.
00:56:34.000The same will happen, still more so this time, now that everybody can see that the European project has dismally and abjectly failed.
00:56:46.000And when Angela Merkel and Nicolas Sarkozy of Germany and France, respectively, were absolutely intransigent in the negotiations and wouldn't make any concessions at all to him even though Britain isn't even in the Euro and should not therefore be asked to submit its own budgets for approval by these unelected commissars.
00:57:13.000He finally realized that if he wanted to stay as leader of the Conservative Party he was going to have to raise his game on the European question.
00:57:23.000And so he voted against the entire new treaty that we're going to bring in to allow the EU's commissars to put their sticky fingers all over our national budgets.
00:57:36.000They can't do that because he has vetoed it.
00:57:38.000One veto prevents any of these changes from happening and he, for once, found the guts to do this.
00:57:46.000Of course, you can imagine how the mainstream press treated it here.
00:57:57.000Europe has isolated itself from us by setting up, essentially, a fraudulent currency which has now about the value of Monopoly money or Mickey Mouse money.
00:58:23.000That will not be required to pay for it.
00:58:26.000We're going to come back with five more minutes with you, and I know you wouldn't say that you have a date when Greece is going to basically default and all this.
01:00:47.000If there was ever any doubt for anyone that it was authoritarian out of control, when they make proclamations of you will waive all remaining sovereignty to us, EU bureaucratic police will physically seize money to pay it.
01:00:59.000You know, we will put all new environmental controls in shutting down everything.
01:01:04.000I mean, just in Von Ruppe looking all crazy saying global governance, global governance.
01:01:09.000I mean, it's so obvious what they're doing.
01:01:13.000And then run by the mega banks that have engaged in all the fraud, waging war against all the other free market banks and brokerage firms, trying to take them over.
01:01:21.000I mean, here's the proof of the authoritarianism, Lord Monckton.
01:01:26.000Well, what they're doing is they are indeed trying to take democracy away forever.
01:01:31.000The governing class in Europe, and to a large extent in America, has got tired of having to face re-election.
01:01:42.000Lord Monton's Skype, we just lost it and that was key information he was covering.
01:03:47.000They would like to just be in power forever and that's what the transfer of government away by treaty from elected hands in your Congress to unelected hands at the UN means.
01:04:00.000And so what you have to start doing is preparing your friends in Congress to vote against any treaty that comes out of Rio de Janeiro or Qatar later in the year.
01:04:12.000This biodiversity thing is just another excuse for a power grab by the usual suspects and Congress must not ratify any such treaty.
01:04:23.000Get onto your senator now and say, "Look, enough is enough.
01:04:27.000They got the global warming thing wrong.
01:04:30.000Now they're going to get the sustainable development and biodiversity thing wrong as well.
01:04:34.000There's no scientific basis for giving up our democracy.
01:04:38.000It is time for all this nonsense to stop.
01:04:41.000Okay, I know you're very busy, sir, but since we lost a few minutes with you, I'd like to briefly go to break and come back for a few more minutes and finish up with exactly what they're doing in Europe, what this, as you said a week and a half ago, they're just going to announce total power grab, like, you know, in response to being exposed, fleeing forward, and then briefly, Ron Paul and the different tactics they're using to try to block people from voting for him.
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01:08:17.000Alright, we are eight minutes into hour number two.
01:08:21.000Coming up the bottom of the hour, the former head of the federal grand jury in Oklahoma City, Javi Heidelberg, who saw the evidence that it was a Clintonista inside job, will be joining us via video connection from Oklahoma City.
01:08:34.000We're going to have a series of other witnesses like Jane Graham on and others in the coming weeks because the new film A Noble Lie is out.
01:08:42.000The first official well-produced eyewitness film that's come out since the tragic events.
01:08:49.000When you see the establishment gearing up to blame domestic groups for a new event, that is what the globalists are going to try.
01:08:55.000Undoubtedly, we've got to expose this paradigm right now.
01:08:58.000Now, I've got a big news blitz coming up in five minutes because I spent most of the first 30 minutes on Ron Paul.
01:09:03.000We're going to get Lord Monckton's take on that because he's been at the highest levels of the British government and also run for election in Scotland, had them try similar things.
01:09:11.000But finishing up with the point that you were making about Europe is trying to go authoritarian.
01:09:17.000They don't even deny that on Bloomberg TV.
01:09:19.000They say, well, they have to do it to fix things, and they're going to get rid of sovereignty.
01:09:24.000And basically, where others failed to conquer Europe, the megabanks have done it.
01:09:33.000And it looks like Von Rumpy and others are still quite arrogant, even as things implode underneath them, Lord Monckton.
01:09:40.000Well, yes, they're taking full advantage of this by saying, well, of course, the only reason why this happened is that we didn't have enough power.
01:09:46.000And, of course, it happened because they already had too much power, but they're just twisting it and turning it round.
01:09:51.000So this, it's the same story in Europe with the euro as it is with the UN and the climate.
01:09:58.000These are a concerted effort, indeed the EU's advisors are telling the UN how to draft its biodiversity treaty in such a way that it takes advantage of all the tricks the EU has learned.
01:10:10.000For instance, you can put the treaty into place and then it self-amends without having to get the assent of all the parties.
01:10:19.000It means you start with the stop of a treaty and then the bureaucrats can make up anything they want from then on.
01:10:26.000They've done this in Europe and they're planning to do it with this biodiversity treaty as well.
01:10:31.000And the only way to stop it is not to ratify it in the first place.
01:10:36.000And the United States has got to be very clear about this.
01:10:40.000This will be profoundly, deeply damaging to the West in general and to the United States in particular, the great Satan.
01:10:48.000These are the people who want to destroy the United States.
01:10:52.000They're using the UN as the weapon to do it.
01:10:56.000And the United States, I mean at least half of the United States, unfortunately, is a party which is perfectly happy to go along with this final destruction of everything that your founding fathers wanted to set up.
01:11:28.000And the same bureaucrats then own shares in the factories in China.
01:11:33.000And it's like a sacrament to destroy your country.
01:11:37.000That's right, it's a truly horrifying picture, and the real worry that I have is that the two leading contenders at the moment for the Republican nomination are deeply unsound on this whole global warming and environmental sector.
01:11:54.000You've got Newt Gingrich, who's been a sort of closet greenie in and out of the closet for years.
01:12:00.000He sat on that settee with, what's her name, Pelosi, to talk about global warming enthusiastically.
01:12:09.000And then you have Mitt Romney, who's even worse.
01:12:11.000I mean, these two are totally unfit to hold office because they don't see what it is that the UN and its various friends among the Democrats are planning to do to America.
01:12:24.000And they're not going to defend America and its Constitution against this.
01:12:28.000Dangerous onslaught from the people who are trying to bring the West down forever and impose a global communist or fascist dictatorship.
01:13:03.00083% of our laws, according to official German estimates, are made for us by the unelected commissar, the bureaucrat, of the European Union.
01:13:12.000That's what's going to happen to America, too, once the UN gets this biodiversity treaty through.
01:13:22.000Well, they're definitely on the defensive right now, but as you said, they just metastasized into something new, but looking at this, it's similar to what we have here, where the EPA just does whatever it wants outside of law, and has now announced that under the rubric of biodiversity, they can do anything, and you're saying Gingrich and others are just ignorant, and I know you're being polite... We're having Gingrich and Romney go along with
01:14:01.000But I'm afraid on this issue, he is so totally ill-advised that he would make a most terrible mess of presentations.
01:14:10.000because he would buy into all this garbage, and because the Republicans in Congress tend to be loyal to their president, they would vote for this garbage too.
01:14:18.000You need to have a president in the White House who simply says boo to all this environmental nonsense.
01:14:27.000But as you said, what is your estimate?
01:14:31.000Because I've seen variants from different groups, but is it not in the tens of billions what has been spent shelling the lie of man-made global warming?
01:14:40.000No, no, no, we're in the hundreds of billions now.
01:14:44.000I mean, $80 billion has been spent by the United States alone on this.
01:14:48.000Europe has probably spent another $40 billion.
01:14:50.000I mean, we're looking at very, very serious amounts of money, taxpayers' money, at a time when these governments are all bust anyway.
01:15:00.000They go on and on squandering cash on this envirogarbage.
01:15:04.000Well, that's because it's the global government religion.
01:15:07.000That's why Romney, and that's why Gingrich support it, and that's why they're endorsed by the Republican rhinos, is because this is what the ruling class wants, to be able to shut down any competition that isn't part of their little inner coterie, and then meanwhile it covers up for real environmental
01:15:23.000Concerns that are going on instead they run around chasing phantoms of carbon dioxide This was completely manufactured, but in closing Ron Paul Is is is winning in Iowa winning in other states and so for the first time the governor and others are Have reportedly, according to Politico, come out and said, if you vote for Ron Paul, because it's an old-fashioned, you know, vote in the counties, in these groups, that it discredits it.
01:15:51.000Is that not an attack on the electoral process to say vote for him and you discredit Iowa and our electoral system?
01:15:59.000No, what they're doing there is they're saying that you, the people, no longer have the right to decide anything.
01:16:06.000We will tell you what is good for you.
01:16:08.000Now that's not what the founding fathers of your constitution wanted.
01:16:12.000They wanted to make sure that every man had his vote and that that vote would decide the kind of government you got and the kind of president you got.
01:16:20.000And if people want to vote for Ron Paul, that is their choice and they should have the absolute right to exercise it.
01:16:28.000And nobody should come along and say that this would be an abuse of the electoral process.
01:16:34.000It is your right to vote for who you want to vote for, and if Ron Paul is the one person currently front-running who isn't buying into all this enviro-garbage, then he's the one you should vote for.
01:16:47.000I don't think it's worth voting for Gingrich or for that Mormon fellow, Romney, while they continue to buy this Drink the Environmental Kool-Aid.
01:16:59.000Once they come off the Kool-Aid, different matter, but while they're on it, Then these are people who essentially are haters of America.
01:17:19.000To choose for yourselves what laws shall be made for you and what taxes shall be imposed upon you.
01:17:26.000Yet these people would hand all that away to the unelected bureaucrats of the UN and, of course, as you rightly say, the big banks who are very close in with the UN.
01:17:35.000It's all a nice little cosy arrangement together with the ordinary people coming nowhere.
01:17:49.000Now polls are coming out showing Ron Paul in the lead in the next key state, New Hampshire.
01:17:54.000I don't, I mean, the system is going to go completely crazy because they tried to destroy his son with a bunch of dirty tricks in Kentucky.
01:18:01.000In the Senate race last year, it didn't work.
01:18:04.000I know you've been at the end of a lot of dirty tricks.
01:18:07.000We've got to certainly pray Or Ron Paul, pray for you of course and everybody else that is standing up against these people.
01:18:14.000But I think the big mega banks and the UN crowd have bitten off more than they can chew.
01:18:20.000And the sleeping giant that is the free people of the West is beginning to rise and I'm seeing fear in them.
01:18:28.000I think they are now frightened of the people, and that's why they're so desperate to ram this power grab through quickly, before the people have quite spotted what's going on.
01:18:39.000There seem to be a lot of well-meaning people who buy into this environmental stuff because, rightly they say, we want to exercise the sensible stewardship of the planet, we don't want to make an undue mess of it.
01:18:51.000And therefore they are predisposed, if you like, to believe anything that's told to them in that direction.
01:18:57.000But now a lot of ordinary voters have, you know, there's a kind of common sense in ordinary voters.
01:19:03.000That's the whole constitution is built on the idea that the voters have a common sense that the governing class doesn't have.
01:19:10.000And so the voters are going to have to really assert themselves at this coming election.
01:19:16.000They're going to have to turn Obama out of the White House.
01:19:19.000I'm sorry if I'm straying into your politics a bit here, but he is very bad news for democracy.
01:19:26.000He's a globalist throwing himself around the world.
01:19:29.000You've got every right to say get rid of Obama.
01:19:31.000Well listen, Lord Monckton, thank you so much for the time, and people should find out more about the UK.
01:19:36.000Independence Party and all the great work you're doing and say hi to Nigel Farage who's certainly leading a great charge exposing the kleptocratic Eurocrats.
01:19:45.000Thank you so much and have a great Christmas.
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01:24:26.000What if Ron Paul wins Iowa and New Hampshire too?
01:24:29.000And then it gets into the fact that more and more he's going into first place in Iowa and New Hampshire.
01:24:35.000And the system's completely panicking.
01:24:37.000So the different politicos in Iowa are quoted in Politico saying that he's going to ruin the state and ruin their record and discredit their caucus, their people voting on Two Republican voters have sent to the caucus to represent them.
01:25:00.000The people get together in the Republican Party.
01:25:17.000They're going to have trouble, though, because each caucus will look at their numbers.
01:25:21.000And so, there's no telling what the establishment's going to do, but Ron Paul does need a lot of security.
01:25:30.000If they see him really building and know that he's going to create so much attention to liberty during the campaign, even if they plan on trying to steal elections with a general computerized vote later, they could pull something, even though it's incredibly obvious with a lone nut who's let out of some government psychiatric facility, just to try to shut this down.
01:25:50.000But they also know that could cause a revolution.
01:25:53.000Any way you slice it, resistance is victory.
01:25:56.000As long as Ron Paul's ready to be torn apart in the media and even physically attacked.
01:26:08.000clips I'd seen a year ago of him, Ron Paul, back in the 80s on there with all these idiots yelling at him and how Ron Paul was jumping out of his seat and yelling at him back when he was younger.
01:26:18.000I guess Ron Paul's a little more like Alex Jones than we thought.
01:26:25.000We're going to put a compilation of that stuff together soon and do a special piece on it.
01:26:30.000Alright, I'm spending too much time on the Ron Paul thing.
01:26:33.000I already covered it in the first hour.
01:26:35.000It's just, will Ron Paul kill the caucuses?
01:28:19.000Investigators don't know what the threat is.
01:28:21.000Authentic, but has nonetheless led the state party to confront worst case scenarios.
01:28:25.000Their fear, an Iowa caucus marked by hackers who corrupt the database used to gather votes and crash the website used to inform the public about results that could shape the campaign for the White House.
01:29:05.000I mean, you can see what they're doing.
01:29:07.000Remember, they launched Stuxnet, Israel and the U.S.
01:29:10.000did on Iran, and I said, watch, they're going to blame the freedom of the Internet on it, even though the government admits they launched it, and sure enough, they're in the news.
01:29:17.000We've got to have cybersecurity and the NDAA and get rid of the freedom online and have the Pentagon patrolling the Internet, shutting down whoever they want offensively, preemptively, because of Stuxnet!
01:29:33.000The government admits they launched it in conjunction with Israel, but they gotta start shutting down our freedom because the government launched Stuxnet.
01:29:41.000But they don't mention it in the new articles then.
01:29:43.000Yeah, Stuxnet, going around the world.
01:29:46.000We've gotta shut down your freedom because of Stuxnet.
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01:33:42.000Bobby Heidelberg, the head of Federal Grand Jury on the Oklahoma City bombing case, is going to be joining us via video Skype from Oklahoma here in just a moment with one of the producers of the film, a noble lie, Oklahoma City, 1995.
01:33:58.000We're going to introduce him here in just a moment.
01:34:01.000Some of the other news that I didn't get to hear is Homeland Security moves to man FEMA camps.
01:34:09.000We were sent the internal Halliburton KBR master contractor offer to prepare emergency camps across the country for political, economic, or environmental reasons.
01:34:23.000Within 72 hours, how to lock them down, the barbed wire, the systems, the government orders for the Army to hire more internment specialists, all of that.
01:35:26.000It was the most credible of all the episodes they've had.
01:35:30.000And, uh, you know, because they're all serious subjects, but some of it's kind of entertainment-wise, because that's how they allowed it on TV.
01:35:35.000This thing was so hardcore, because I basically, you know, did the research for about 70% of it, and of course was in it, that it got taken off television and erased off DVRs.
01:35:47.000So, now we have, on the Homeland Security website, the original contract from May, thanks to a listener pointing it out to us yesterday, where they put out the contracts to have a general contractor, and Halliburton got it.
01:36:00.000And it's all there, all the subcontractors, everything.
01:36:04.000And it's a new article, and it needs to get out to everybody.
01:36:07.000It's Homeland Security moves to man FEMA camps.
01:36:10.000On December 6th, we reported on a document originating from the Halliburton subsidiary KBR Describing Services.
01:36:15.000KBR is looking to farm out the subcontractors.
01:36:18.000The document was passed on to us by a state government employee.
01:36:22.000Complete with phone numbers and everything.
01:36:23.000Our research has since discovered another document that further reveals the ongoing effort by the government to establish FEMA camps.
01:36:29.000They've built them, now they're moving to have people who are paid to be on standby to man them.
01:36:34.000First time we've ever seen this happening.
01:36:36.000And you saw DHS announce last Friday, we wrote an article about that, preparing for massive influx of a collapse of Mexico, get emergency camps ready.
01:36:45.000So they're getting ready for really total economic collapse is the point.
01:36:49.000And this article goes over all of this, so there should be a debate about this, but they don't want you to know about it.
01:37:41.000But never any discussion of Saudi Arabia, where 15 of the 19 so-called hijackers came from, our gallant little ally.
01:37:47.000And we're going to go to our guests in a moment.
01:37:49.000I just want to add here that this broadcast is listener-supported, but that's a side issue.
01:37:55.000When I see a film like A Noble Lie, Oklahoma City 1995, with myself in it, but more importantly Jane Graham, survivor of the attack, Hoppy Heidelberg, cop of the year, Terence Jeky's mother, and so many others, the inventor of the neutron bomb, saying there were clearly bombs inside.
01:38:13.000General Benton K. Parton, former head of Air Force Weapons Development, Brigadier General, saying the same thing since day one.
01:38:19.000It's all there, the first and only professional and current film.
01:38:25.000There's been some made at the time that were great and got the word out, that had good information.
01:38:30.000I spent 40 minutes in Road to Tyranny, a three-hour film, on it.
01:38:49.000When I was in the SWAT team headquarters, In Travis County about 10 years ago, they came in, went during citizens' communications, kind of threatened me.
01:39:00.000It became a big article in the newspaper.
01:39:02.000They apologized and invited me over to the SWAT team headquarters across the street from the county commissioners.
01:39:07.000And when I walked in there, I saw Waco, the rules of engagement that shows the flare footage of the feds killing the people and the police.
01:39:17.000And I saw Oklahoma City documentaries exposing it.
01:39:22.000So, and they were like, look, we just told to go over there.
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01:40:28.000And speaking of the nightly news tonight, it's going to be a special one.
01:40:31.000We're going to have Hoppy Heidelberg back on.
01:40:33.000Aaron Dyk is going to host tonight's show.
01:40:35.000And we're also going to have a professor from Japan on, on some interesting subjects.
01:40:46.000Now, for the next hour, going to our guest, Hoppy Heidelberg, who, of course, was instrumental And at first really exposing that a cover-up was going on.
01:41:04.000And he is also joined there by one of the producers, Chris Emery, who we had on last week.
01:41:12.000And it's great to have Hobby Heidelberg back with us.
01:41:17.000He's been on four or five times in the last 16 years that I've been on air.
01:41:20.000And he's been through so much, you know, to tell the truth.
01:41:24.000But I want to get different people on survivors, grand jurors, police officers, mothers.
01:41:30.000We actually have a police officer who's actually been threatened we may be able to get on.
01:41:36.000Just to illustrate for the people that were there.
01:41:40.000What really happened and how this was blamed on the anti-globalist movement and the state's rights movement.
01:41:45.000And then of course there's all the White House memos and things saying they sure need another one.
01:41:48.000It would sure be great if there was a new Oklahoma City.
01:41:51.000Very nasty how dumb they think we are to publicly talk about this.
01:41:55.000So he was the grand jury foreman and he investigated evidence surrounding the Oklahoma City bombing.
01:42:01.000And then, of course, we have Mr. Emory with him as well, joining us.
01:42:04.000Gentlemen, I could ask a lot of questions here, but I want to welcome you both back.
01:42:08.000And until we got a break in 10 minutes, instead of me just throwing out the first questions, you guys start talking about whatever you think is most important.
01:42:18.000Alex, the first thing I want to do is make a correction there.
01:42:21.000I was not the foreman of the grand jury.
01:42:23.000If I had been, it would have been a completely different outcome.
01:42:27.000Well, see, I'm going back from a decade plus, so some of my memory gets foggy.
01:42:49.000Well, uh, they handed us, uh, when they called us back in December of 94 to come in, and then they excused the people who couldn't serve, and then they drew out of the hat the names of the people that we're gonna serve, and then they gave us a handbook called the Grand Juror's Handbook.
01:43:07.000And I took mine home and I went through it first, highlighting it, and then I came back and underlined with red the most salient, highlighted parts.
01:43:22.000And I didn't realize that they hadn't read the book and didn't understand it and were not going to go by it at all.
01:43:30.000So the first day that, of course, I'd been on the grand jury since January 95, But the other grand jury, there's two sitting grand juries all the time at Oklahoma City.
01:43:40.000There's one that serves from January to January and one from July to July.
01:43:45.000Well, the July jury wasn't going to have time to do this, so we caught it.
01:43:50.000And we started, I don't remember whether it was May or June, but anyway, the very first day that we started hearing evidence, I call it that, on the bombing, they told us that we couldn't question witnesses.
01:46:16.000Well, again, I wasn't completely aware just how high this thing went, but there wasn't any way I was going to get a federal judge to back me on this, I realize now.
01:46:29.000And so it took them about two or three weeks to decide what to do about my letter, and then they decided they just couldn't grant me My wish to call in actual witnesses, because I could have proven right away that a truck bomb is not possible for a truck bomb to blow up that building.
01:46:49.000Yeah, they couldn't let you bring in Jane Graham, who saw government agents planting bombs and thought they were telephone repairmen.
01:46:56.000I mean, you couldn't call the former head of Air Force Weapons Development.
01:47:00.000You couldn't call Terence Yeagey, the police officer that saw it all.
01:47:03.000I mean, you couldn't call for actual witnesses.
01:47:05.000They wanted you to Just talk to random people that fit into their anti-patriot, anti-right-wing propaganda system.
01:47:15.000And that's why the judge, they finally decided that the judge just needed to fire me, so he just wrote me a letter and said, uh, your services are no longer needed.
01:47:24.000And if you don't keep your mouth shut, you're going to prison.
01:47:28.000And, uh, Each outburst will be a separate event, and you will have to serve your prison terms in order, one after the other, not at the same time.
01:47:42.000So, it was kind of a joke, and as soon as I got the letter out of the mailbox from the judge, I faxed it to Channel 4, K4, the TV station here, and that just blew the lid off of everything.
01:48:00.000I mean, that's tyranny with a capital T when they say, we'll throw you in irons if you ask any questions.
01:48:07.000And of course, later on it got even worse.
01:48:08.000They got even, you know, more threatening.
01:48:10.000But the judge, all he could threaten to do was just to put me in jail.
01:48:15.000Now, tell us about the other threats, the FBI visit, all of it.
01:48:18.000Well, the FBI came down a couple of times, may have been three, I don't know.
01:48:23.000But I remember two occasions they came down.
01:48:26.000And the one occasion that was the funniest is
01:48:31.000I was sitting, my desk is in a bay window right there in front of the house, so as they pull up and stop, and you know who it is because the car they're driving is obvious motor pool, and so when these guys get out, the guy on my side, the passenger side, that got out, took his pistol out of his holster, his shoulder holster, and stuck it in the waistband of his pants, and then buttoned his suit jacket over the pistol.
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01:55:36.000Yeah, she said, do you know how much trouble you're in?
01:55:39.000I said, no, but I bet that's what you're here for, to tell me.
01:55:43.000And the other guys went to laughing, and that just kind of ruined the whole thing, because I kept making them laugh, and they finally just had to leave.
01:56:11.000When I first met him, Hoppy, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think we spent almost five hours sitting at your kitchen table just talking about the case, what you went through, and I was just trying to get some memory back this morning on the way to the studio about that first meeting.
01:56:25.000After I left his house, Alex, I pulled over to the side of the road and it took me probably a full 30 minutes just to soak in what I had learned from him.
01:56:38.000We have all the breaks at the end of the hour and the start of the hour.
01:56:41.000But, Poppy, tell us what you've learned.
01:56:44.000Impart that knowledge on record of what really happened from your research in Oklahoma City.
01:56:50.000Well, you have to go back to 93 when the anti-terrorist bill was before Congress and they couldn't get it passed so they had the 93 World Trade Center attempt to knock the towers down and of course that was a failure because the FBI ran that operation according to the New York Times and it It failed, and they didn't get the legislation passed, so they waited a couple of years.
01:57:20.000They canvassed a bunch of federal buildings to try to decide which one would do them the best job, work the best for them.
01:57:28.000And they settled on Oklahoma City because we were the only federal building with a daycare center in it.
01:57:34.000And they thought, well, the pictures of those little babies' bodies in the paper every morning and on the six o'clock news at night would probably get this bill passed for us.
02:00:46.000He said, well, I think I'll ask some questions then.
02:00:49.000And over the last 50 years or so, they've turned juries, grand juries, in more and more to kept creatures who are told what to do.
02:00:57.000And that's not how the Bill of Rights Constitution and our system of government works.
02:01:02.000And that's what jury nullification is about, is rediscovering that these citizen rule books that are mailed out free with all of the orders at Infowars.com break all that down for you.
02:01:12.000And we've got top constitutional law scholars on to break it down.
02:01:14.000But this is a short segment, long segment, coming up.
02:02:37.000Well, they started flying three helicopters over my house once a week, and they would circle my house very low until I came out and acknowledged their presence so they could go on.
02:02:51.000And the message, I assume, was that we want you to know we know where you live.
02:03:01.000And any night we chose to, we could drop a bladder of gasoline on the roof in your house and shoot it with a fire and burn you and your family to death.
02:03:14.000I wasn't terribly worried about the message because people that do a lot of threatening aren't as likely to act as people who don't bother to threaten first.
02:03:30.000And you know, what do they think is going to happen as they keep killing people and intimidating?
02:03:34.000Don't they know people are going to start responding back?
02:03:37.000I mean, we know where they're at as well.
02:03:41.000Well, yeah, but they think they've got all the power because they've got the military might and they don't fear us because we, as of yet, have not offered to resist.
02:04:25.000They're determined to destroy the middle class, and they're well on the way.
02:04:29.000When they double and triple the price of food and fuel, they've got you, because you can't do without either one, and you're not going to have the money to do anything else, even if you're Even if you have the money to afford food and fuel, you're not going to do anything else.
02:04:46.000And it's going to get to the point where you can't even afford it.
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02:09:06.000And he was trying to ask these questions and he went to the judge and the judge said, you're off of this, you're gone, even though grand jurors are supposed to be running things, not the other way around.
02:09:15.000And then the FBI keep coming to his house and, you know, opening their shirts up and showing him a firearm stuck in the, you know, the waistband threatening him.
02:09:24.000And then helicopters flying around in his house multiple times a week, threats.
02:09:31.000And then he was told Don't file your lawsuit against us or you're going to end up dead.
02:09:46.000I've talked, and we're going to try to get them on the show, police officers who've been threatened.
02:09:50.000Uh, Colonel Craig Roberts has talked about this.
02:09:53.000He was also a Tulsa police officer, Tulsa detective who they sent out there.
02:09:57.000Um, separately an army, um, um, Lieutenant Colonel and then before that famous Marine Corps sniper who wrote a bunch of bestselling books on sniping.
02:10:07.000They even tried to set up Colonel Roberts a couple of times, uh, for all sorts of things and were investigating him for terrorism because he dared talk about this.
02:10:17.000Now, years after he's off the Tulsa police force, they come to him and apologize.
02:10:22.000Craig Roberts, a lot of great characters up there in, uh, Oklahoma.
02:10:26.000Marine Corps Sniper, Colonel in the Army, Tulsa Police Department SWAT Team Leader, Helicopter Pilot.
02:10:33.000In fact, one time the helicopter broke down over Tulsa and he'll tell you the whole story of being an inch and a half shorter after the crash from his spine compressing.
02:10:40.000But side issue, going back to Hoppy Heidelberg.
02:10:45.000Bring us up to how were you given the message, you're saying shadowy figures, not FBI threatening you with guns now, that you're going to be dead if you file a lawsuit on us.
02:10:56.000Tell us what the lawsuit was going to concern.
02:10:58.000I know we've talked about it over the years, but my memory's even foggy on this, Hoppy.
02:11:02.000And then, you know, more about the helicopters, what they look like, and then Mr. Wilburn and what happened to him.
02:11:39.000And, uh, he was trying to pretend to be my friend and my associate and be a cowboy and all of that.
02:11:46.000But, uh, his approach Much lighter, much softer, no threats exactly, but his approach was way more serious than the guys that were trying to be bad.
02:12:03.000So I knew pretty much where the message was coming from.
02:12:09.000It didn't concern me because I didn't know, and I still don't know, that I had a lawsuit.
02:12:46.000I'm going to write that down, but continuing with the threats, because that's evidence of the criminality, but specifically, was it like, I'm your friend, but you're not going to live if you go with this lawsuit.
02:12:57.000Everything will be forgiven, because you said that earlier.
02:14:09.000I've heard all the stories about the black helicopters and everything, and I will admit that up high, against a blue sky, They were so dark, they looked black.
02:14:19.000But they got down so low, right in my yard, right around my house, that they were a very dark green, is what they were.
02:14:39.000I don't know, but I could look directly, not Directly, I mean, but they didn't get down so low that it was going to crash, but I look right at the pilots, you know, we had eye contact every time, and I don't know, they may have come when I wasn't there a time or two, and I didn't come out, I don't know that, but I know that all the times that I came out, they circled until I came out, and then once I waved them off, they went on.
02:15:03.000Always three of them, always came from the same direction, always left in the same direction, so Now specifically though, tell us about the gentleman and who he was who did file a lawsuit.
02:15:16.000Oh, Glenn Wilburn was an accountant here in Oklahoma City and he lost two grandchildren in the daycare center.
02:15:34.000So he went to investigating and he eventually got his daughter, who had standing, because it was her children that were killed, got his daughter to file a lawsuit against Tim McVeigh.
02:15:50.000This is kind of odd, but what it did, it gave him the opportunity to pursue documents.
02:16:42.000And Charles has an incredible story of how Glenn just literally couldn't stand up straight and was crying in Charles' arms.
02:16:50.000This is, I believe, a few days before he passed on.
02:16:53.000And he wanted Charles to continue on because Glenn knew, deep down inside, that whoever murdered his grandkids were getting away, literally, with cold-blooded murder.
02:18:52.000I mean, I knew that it was a federal operation, obviously, but I wasn't aware of Eric Holder's interest in this, and I have not done any homework on that and really have no personal knowledge of Eric Holder's interest in the Oklahoma City bombing.
02:19:13.000We've got to cover the Jamie Gorelick.
02:19:14.000Of course, her signature's on the 9-11 Commission Report, and she's on the group photo on the inside jacket cover of that book.
02:19:21.000She was actually serving under the Justice Department, number two under Janet Reno.
02:19:25.000Eric Holder served in a lateral position at Jamie Gorelick.
02:19:28.000So you see these people rear their ugly heads, so to speak, on a judicial level.
02:19:32.000They're coming back time and time again because they know they literally got away with murder.
02:19:37.000It was Jamie Gorelick that we found out was actually marking the marching orders out to the Oklahoma DA's office within days after the bombing on speakerphone, yelling at the top of her lungs, telling how the DA was going to investigate this case, who they were going after, who they were going to ignore, and that was it.
02:19:52.000There was no, basically... Now why do we even have courts?
02:19:58.000The lawsuits that Jesse Trinidad and others have filed, they've gotten the emails from Holder where he's in control of the cover-up.
02:20:05.000And he's saying things like, this is our number one priority in the Justice Department, this is D-Day, cover this up.
02:20:20.000Internal emails from Holder's top lieutenants and his underlings, his legal assistants, everybody was on the same page as far as how that investigation was going.
02:20:30.000And Jesse basically sent, I believe, an eight-page letter to Patrick Leahy, who was in charge of the Senate subcommittee that was in charge of the hearings to basically approve Holder's appointment.
02:20:41.000And Leahy refused to respond to Jesse Trinidou and the fact that he had that letter, all of the facts were laid out.
02:20:48.000It's like Jesse was completely ignored.
02:20:51.000What about Larry Potts, the deputy FBI director?
02:21:35.000I actually was in the archives in Austin working with Wendy Painting on looking at a lot of the defense team papers.
02:21:42.000Larry Potts was actually best friends with Eric Holder.
02:21:45.000And there's an article in the Dallas Morning News we stumbled across going through all of these boxes of papers.
02:21:50.000Larry, actually, Eric Holder recused himself from prosecuting the Ruby Ridge case because Larry Potts was one of the chief lieutenants in there.
02:21:59.000Since they were best friends, Holder One of his few instances of having some ethics had to recuse himself from that.
02:22:06.000These guys knew each other from way back.
02:22:08.000It was Larry Potts that ended up calling the shots, according to Terry Nichols, for Tim McVeigh.
02:22:14.000And McVeigh was upset because Potts took him off script.
02:22:16.000He changed the plans completely within a few hours before the bombing happened.
02:22:21.000I've forgotten more about this than most people will ever learn, but I've seen the copies of the hotel receipts.
02:22:26.000The government's had to admit that that was the case.
02:22:28.000So it was Colson who we have the receipts from that, what, Marriott, and then it's Larry Potts and the affidavits and other witnesses who's there running the operation.
02:23:06.000I understand everything that I need to understand.
02:23:09.000I know who's who and who does what for whom.
02:23:15.000Therefore, there's not much new under the sun that I could learn that would worry me and of course anybody would be worried about what's going on but i know exactly what's going on in the world today and who's in charge of uh... trying to get it to happen uh... but because i'm a christian i'd know that uh...
02:23:46.000And I'm not sure he's going to allow all the bad things they've got planned to happen.
02:23:51.000So, excuse me, that's really my That's kind of where I'm backed up to the wall and I'm done about all I can done and do and I've got to leave it up to these younger men and just leave it up to God to take care of it and I'm just kind of retiring.
02:24:21.000I'm just being diagnosed with something nobody wants to have.
02:24:27.000And I plan to beat it, but nevertheless, I will be occupied with that for the next few months and won't have any time to... I'm glad we're getting this done because I don't know how many more opportunities we might have.
02:24:43.000Well, it'll be commercial free tonight on the news, and Aaron Dykes is doing it, so you'll have the complete floor for 30 minutes, an hour, as long as you guys want.
02:25:08.000Well, we'll all pray for you, my friend.
02:25:10.000Now, you wanted to get into the bombs itself, which is really at the heart of the issue, and General Parton, who came immediately when he saw it on the news, columns at the back blown out with black points, columns right up by the truck not damaged, and then the newscast saying bombs are being removed.
02:25:30.000Well, this is the one thing that I needed to blow this thing wide open.
02:25:35.000If I could have got a hold of, if I could have gotten General Partner, I knew I wanted structural engineers, I wanted to know how strong these columns were designed.
02:25:44.000How much pounds per square inch of pressure could they survive?
02:26:24.000Let's say, for argument's sake, that the closest column to the truck was 10 feet away.
02:26:32.000Now, it's easy to say, and the government said that the ammonium nitrate bomb that was set off, which we don't necessarily believe, but anyway, they claim it generated 500,000 pounds per square inch of pressure.
02:26:45.000Well, 500,000 pounds is certainly enough to blow away a 3,500 pound design column.
02:27:21.000Now we got a whole different ball game.
02:27:23.000Now we got a thirty five hundred pound column and we only got five hundred pounds of pressure.
02:27:30.000So that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was physically impossible For any truck bomb, assuming it had ammonium nitrate in it, any bomb that the government said it was impossible for it to blow down even one column, much less go all the way east down the front of the building and then turn and go into the building and take out all those columns down on the east end.
02:27:58.000So, what happened was physically impossible.
02:28:02.000What McVeigh was convicted of is physically impossible.
02:28:07.000All of that I could have proven if I had had the right.
02:28:13.000As the grand juror, and expanding on that, I'm going from memory on this, because I don't go off notes, I go off memory, and I didn't want it used to be, but wasn't it Controlled Demolition Incorporated that blew up the majority of the building that was left?
02:28:27.000They wouldn't let anybody get in and look at it, and then on top of that, they then buried it at a Wackenhut landfill and poured concrete in with the chunks, and then, of course, it was Controlled Demolition Incorporated that helped do the work at the 9-11 site.
02:28:43.000Is that correct from my memory, Hoppy?
02:28:51.000We have photos of CDI employees with their t-shirts at the bombsite within about three days before it was demolished.
02:28:58.000Oddly enough, it was the same day that James Nichols was released from federal custody in Detroit and he was held up there on purpose for 30 days so he wouldn't get out and support efforts such as Hoppe.
02:29:08.000In fact, he called me before Terry's state trial and said the morning I got out of federal custody in downtown Detroit at the federal courthouse was the morning that they blew up the Murrah building.
02:29:36.000But, folks, it's creepy having to go on air and talk about government people, who many of them are still in government, in fact, even more powerful, and have to talk about them.
02:34:32.000And I know full well the globalists aren't capable of anything.
02:34:36.000People ask me, then why do you do what you do?
02:34:40.000Because there's no future if we don't stand up for these people.
02:34:43.000And I'm not worried about my future, or even my wife or my children's future, as much as I'm worried about humanity.
02:34:48.000And it's not because, oh, I'm some great, perfect, moral person.
02:34:52.000It's because I understand these basic truths.
02:34:55.000When you get a government that starts setting off Reichstag fires, false flags, you're in trouble.
02:35:01.000And now we're a nation That pushes torture, secret arrest, preemptive war, federal goons grope our children, stick their hands down babies' diapers, strip naked old ladies, and they tell us that's okay?
02:35:15.000I played clips on the news last night of four senators going, we want to scare people.
02:35:29.000And you're a citizen and you ask for a lawyer?
02:35:32.000Lindsey Graham says, oh, no lawyer for you!
02:35:34.000And when you realize that the federal government at that level, these guys are on the national security panels and things, they all know about 9-11.
02:36:23.000That's how controlled the FBI and CIA and NSA and police are.
02:36:28.000I've cornered the police chief here in Austin and others, and I've said, you know about this stuff, and they just go, I just can't believe it, and they have fear in their eyes.
02:36:35.000I talked to the Travis County SWAT team years ago, and I said, you know this stuff's going on.
02:38:49.000I want to get into McVeigh, how this ran, the affidavits by Nichols, what we know, the individuals orchestrating this, who they plan to blame it on, and of course, thank God some of the bombs didn't go off, because then their plan didn't go according to, you know, the best laid plans of mice and men often Go astray.
02:39:10.000But I mean, other points you want to make, or speaking to why you've gone public, Chris Henry.
02:39:14.000I mean, you learned about Oklahoma City and have fought it and risked your life.
02:39:19.000Hoppe was in the middle of it and ran smack dab into the New World Order.
02:40:27.000But even the ones that did, and there had to be somebody else on there smart enough to know what's going on, but they didn't dare stick their head up from behind the log.
02:40:40.000Because You know, there's a little saying that's just as simple as it can be, you know, that I've heard all my life.
02:40:48.000All it takes for evil to triumph is for the good people to do nothing.
02:40:51.000I mean, that's a simple little saying, but it's just as true as it can be.
02:40:56.000And if people would stand up and say, hey, I'm not going to put up with that, then maybe somebody else will stand up.
02:41:04.000And pretty soon, if you could get everybody to stand up, you could make it work.
02:41:10.000But there are just too many people out there.
02:41:15.000That I don't know whether it's a lack of education, a lack of genes, genetic structure, a lack of intelligence or what, but I don't understand people that won't stand up for what's not right.
02:41:31.000You see it all the time where a man dies of a heart attack or is dying in a Walmart and people walk by him for an hour.
02:41:37.000An Austin cop got run over a few years ago and bled to death for over an hour and no one helped him.
02:41:43.000I saw a woman choking once in a restaurant.
02:41:45.000No one would help her and I had to push them out of the way through the Heimlich and they were angry saying no wait for police and I'm like I didn't say hey idiot she's gonna die before the police get here and I'm not exceptional I mean I took swim team for four or five years and They had the fire department come by and, you know, for those that wanted to take it and took a basic life-saving thing.
02:42:06.000I mean, if I'm choking, I want somebody to help me.
02:42:08.000I mean, Americans didn't used to be like this.
02:43:24.000If you're not able to put together information.
02:43:29.000Then you'll never be able to hear the concert.
02:43:33.000All you're able to hear is the tuning up, the dissonance.
02:43:38.000And people that can't think outside the box, as they say, people that don't have the independent thought or the capacity to understand or the willingness to accept the truth, and the Bible says that nobody will believe the truth in the end, and I see that everywhere, People that just, they just can't do that.
02:44:07.000They think if they choose to say the government didn't carry out 9-11 or Oklahoma City or Gulf of Tonkin, even though it's admitted to be staged, that somehow that makes it true.
02:44:17.000I've had engineers, smart people, sit there and look me right in the eye.
02:44:22.000They'll confront me first and say, I like what you do in some areas, but it's impossible that the government could do 9-11.
02:44:30.000I said, well, what about Tuskegee Experiment and all this?
02:45:20.000Chris Emery, your comments on why you've done what you've done.
02:45:23.000Right after I'd met with Craig Roberts, he gave me a set of blueprints that Southwestern Bell had supplied to a lot of the litigants, the people that were suing for insurance claims and so forth.
02:45:34.000And on the second floor, what convinced me to really push ahead on this was there was a layout of the deceased.
02:45:40.000And it listed four babies in cribs against the front window.
02:45:53.000Who killed these people when they were going about their business on a normal work day and yanked them out of this life and the life hereafter?
02:46:10.000Absolutely, and if you look at it, what we do now is going to be a testament to future generations, and the fact that we've exposed Oklahoma City, Hoppy from day one, and General Parton and others, and Jane Graham and the victims, the fact that we've exposed other false flags, they're always trying to resuscitate it, but once the genie's out of the bottle, look at what happened
02:46:31.000With Kurt Haskell and his wife, both lawyers, they see a sharp-dressed guy getting the underwear bomber, Christmas Day guy, on the plane, arguing, demanding, and so powerful, he was able to order security to let him on without a passport.
02:46:44.000Then they witness the whole thing happen, they tell the public, the media says they're full of it, and then later the State Department admits, Yeah, the U.S.
02:46:52.000government ordered us to help get him on the plane.
02:46:54.000I mean, the fact is, we are people who are awake and love the truth.
02:47:37.000The second point that General Parton made, that's easily understood and very important, When you, when blast pressure pushes, when blast pressure pushes against a steel reinforced column, and it pushes that column over, it does break the concrete.
02:47:59.000But it only bends the steel bars inside the concrete.
02:48:06.000If the columns in Oklahoma City Had been downed by blast pressure, the reinforcing steel rods inside those columns would still be there and just bent over.
02:48:22.000Parton said those steel rods had been cut.
02:48:27.000Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise.
02:48:29.000Yeah, so there's no, there's a big difference, and I do this in a demonstration sometimes.
02:48:34.000I'll take two pencils, I'll break one with my hands, I'll saw one in half with a little hacksaw blade, and I will ask anybody in the audience if they could not Put those halves back together again correctly.
02:48:53.000And everybody, I mean you can look and see which one that I broke with my hands because it's so irregular and so shattered looking.
02:49:03.000And then the one that I cut is so smooth, it's, anybody can put that back together.
02:49:08.000And why anybody can't understand that when those columns, when that steel rebar inside the column was actually cut, those had to be cutting charges on the column itself.
02:49:23.000Well, you can see the video and the photos.
02:49:25.000There's even blast points right there.
02:49:28.000Expanding on that, why do you think from your deep research, Chris, and hobby, Why didn't they just go with the truck bomb?
02:49:37.000That probably would have killed some of the kids and been, you know, still good for them to be able to get our guns and demonize patriots and blame it on us and make people forget about Waco.
02:49:46.000But why have them go in and wire it all up and all that?
02:49:49.000I mean, I guess they just wanted to kill more federal employees?
02:49:58.000And they didn't get the terrorist bill passed.
02:50:01.000So they planned, if every bomb that was inside the building would have gone off, it would probably have leveled the whole building.
02:50:08.000And that's what they were looking to do.
02:50:10.000Because they were looking for maximum body count to get the legislation passed.
02:50:16.000There was an officer with Army CID, we couldn't get him on, it's basically the military version of the FBI.
02:50:22.000We couldn't get him on camera, he refused to talk, but he did relay this to a member of the bombing committee, right after the bombing committee was formed, that he showed up on the crime scene within about three hours, he was given his ID and a hard hat, and he started asking questions to ATF and FBI.
02:50:38.000Once they knew that he was there to look at it objectively, that was his job in the Vietnam War.
02:50:54.000I mean, right then, man, I tell you what, just scum, filth of the earth.
02:50:59.000And they ship guns into Mexico to blame the Second Amendment.
02:51:02.000Our government is run by the most larcenous child murdering criminals you can imagine.
02:51:07.000And it's time to be brought to justice.
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02:54:08.000By the way, we'll cover it on the nightly news tonight, but there's we'll cover it on the nightly news tonight, but there's articles about more people resigning in connection to Penn but there's articles about more people resigning in connection to Penn State for pedophile rings, and that's come out
02:54:39.000Yeah, he wasn't in there raping children by himself.
02:54:43.000Okay, this is the people that run our society, and they think our children are there to blow up and rape, and they've got the TSA, the public, accepting them, grabbing little girls' genitals.
02:54:53.000They have men grope little two-year-old girls.
02:56:00.000I mean, hopefully tonight we'll bring up with you guys some of the other people, Chris, you talked to, like police officers and others, who were also threatened, and what's covered in the film The Noble Lie.
02:56:10.000But imagine the ATF and FBI telling, you know, the military bomb expert who's there, You forget you saw this.
02:56:18.000We know where your daughter goes to school.
02:56:19.000I mean, I would have real trouble just on the spot not going caveman.
02:56:25.000That was absolutely incredible when I heard that.
02:56:30.000Hoppy and I were just discussing this during break.
02:56:34.000Howard Shapiro was the gentleman that was calling for another Oklahoma City bombing, I believe, recently and in the last year or so.
02:56:39.000He actually served on the city council here in Oklahoma City for a while, was best friends with uh... hillary clinton and also i worked with former director larry potts with i g i well i g i is pretty much a hit squad it's it's uh... retired we know this and i have no problem saying this on the air retired fbi agents folks that pretty much went off uh... off the the script and uh... they had an office down in town here in oklahoma city howard shepherd work for that firm And so you see how these people just have a, they're circling back.
02:57:09.000They have, it boils down to, they have no regard for human life.
02:57:13.000That's who we're dealing with all the time here in Oklahoma City, Alex, trying to research his case.
02:57:18.000So I empathize with you when you get excited on your show.