Alex Jones breaks some of the biggest news he has ever broken on this radio show. The government is covering up the truth about blue force awareness and how the military mans the FEMA camps and treats the rest of the American people as the enemy.
00:00:19.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:23.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:27.000Here we are, ladies and gentlemen, the 22nd day of December 2011 on this Thursday edition.
00:00:41.000I'm I have some of the biggest news I've ever broken on this radio show today.
00:00:49.000It began to break yesterday when one of our callers, I just called him with a lot of really good tips because her husband works in the Department of Defense.
00:00:59.000She said, listen, you didn't look at the right area in the documents that I've been sending you.
00:01:03.000It talks about blue force awareness and how the military mans the FEMA camps and how the rest of the American people are the enemy.
00:01:13.000And we went and got the documents off the federal government website, and within an hour of it being posted at Infowars.com, with links to it, they pulled it.
00:01:27.000First, they started altering the document in live time.
00:01:29.000We have the earlier one, and then about, by the time I talked about it on the radio, but hadn't even, you know, done an official piece on it yet, yesterday in the afternoon, Well, we're still on air.
00:01:42.000By the end of it, they'd change dates and remove things.
00:01:46.000This is in live time on the big federal government, Homeland Security, Department of Defense contracting website.
00:01:55.000And then by about an hour and a half after the article had been out at about 6 o'clock Central, 6 p.m.
00:02:03.000Central, Aaron Dykes and I worked feverishly on top of doing the nightly news to get that out.
00:02:09.000They removed it completely and put a notice about, do not post classified information, you know, if you're a federal employee issuing contracts, implying that it was classified.
00:02:21.000And I've seen that in contracts before where it's public, then they classify it again.
00:02:29.000And I didn't notice, though, I didn't see yesterday, biggest thing ever in all this, the comments.
00:02:35.000There's like 400 of them there, I've scanned through them.
00:02:37.000The comments are almost universally saying, whoa, this is big, especially veterans, current military folks in Afghanistan going, this blue force, red force, all these designations, transponders, this is what we do with the enemy.
00:02:51.000And I remember being at urban warfare drills in Temple, Texas, in Oakland, California, and other areas.
00:02:58.000And footage sent us by listeners all over the nation.
00:03:00.000The Marines, when they practice taking over a town, the mayor, the police chief, the Boy Scouts in some cases are wearing transponders.
00:03:08.000They're running around tattling, spying on the militias and gun owners and all these drills.
00:03:11.000Now it's just admitted that we're the enemy.
00:03:39.000I've got to dig into that bend before all those VHS tapes go bad, because I shot that on VHS before I even got the money to buy a digital camera, a DV cam for like $5,000.
00:03:48.000I had to save my money and couldn't even buy that then.
00:03:52.000But I was shooting it on VHS, a used camera I bought for like $100.
00:03:58.000That's how much money I had, even like in 98, 99.
00:04:02.000And I've got all the raw footage of them giving us a tour, and they've got this Humvee with this big robot 50 cal gun on top of it, maybe a bit above 50 cal.
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00:08:12.000You're going to want to take notes today.
00:08:18.000I beg you to write down what we're going to cover, the basic points, and then go research it for yourself.
00:08:25.000Because information of this incredible import, of this magnitude, is so important.
00:08:37.000I have said, Ron Paul has said, other constitutional scholars like Bruce Fine have said, Mr. Turley, a constitutional scholar, has said, countless others have looked at this legislation.
00:08:52.000That has passed the House and Senate that Obama says he'll sign, but hasn't yet.
00:09:50.000Now, Bush signed executive orders, and Congress went along with it, for PDD 51 and the accompanying Other numbers to other federal agencies because they had executive orders and presidential decision directives.
00:10:06.000There's an executive order that accompanies it, saying that for any crises, including economic or unnamed crises, the president can suspend Congress and run the entire U.S.
00:10:25.000So the presidency, though the presidency is a puppet position by the special interests, the big mega banks, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, a handful of others, the system is hesitating on this because I think Even the global controllers are saying, should we actually give a president this much power?
00:10:55.000Because see, they've actually worked to weaken the office of the presidency in the public mind, while strengthening the power that the unelected bureaucracy has under the executive.
00:11:07.000Certainly not a good guy, but he was not a total globalist, and he was not going along with a lot of their operations, and it's come out.
00:11:16.000We've interviewed people who have gotten the documents, it's even in a lot of mainstream reports, that they decided to go ahead and leak stuff on him from the plumbers, and to break in at the Watergate to bring him down.
00:11:27.000And that's why you saw that happen, because the power structure wanted to bring down Richard Nixon and weaken the presidency.
00:11:33.000Bill Clinton was put in there and dragged the presidency through the mud.
00:11:38.000So, they want the power of a dictatorship, but they want it through the oligarchy, the plutocratic councils and combines to give the president this power.
00:12:14.000The Queen of England was sworn in, christened, coronated on the stone of Abraham and believes that she is of the blood of Christ and all this stuff.
00:12:54.000And so Obama said he was going to sign it last Thursday and then last Friday and then suddenly there were news articles Obama set to sign NDAA today and then it was tomorrow and then now people are saying well what's your statement are you going to sign it?
00:13:08.000Because Obama had said he wasn't going to sign it but then his lawyers are like because we don't need to have this signed he already has this power we'll kill U.S.
00:13:42.000And we'll continue to watch it very, very closely.
00:13:48.000Now, separately, integrating in with all of this, you've got Newsweek, With the headline, governments, local governments armed by Homeland Security to wage war.
00:14:29.000People that, quote, are living on 3,000 acre farm compounds with their families and who, quote, want to be left alone and, quote, aren't paying their property tax.
00:14:40.000See, nobody's going to be able to pay their property tax except the one-tenth of one percent when they're done with this global depression.
00:14:46.000They're going to come take everything.
00:14:48.000And a lot of people are going to say, I'm going to sit here on my farm.
00:15:48.000This is foreign banks that have taken over Europe and the U.S.
00:15:51.000In Europe, they're saying we're going to send in paramilitary tax collectors in Portugal, in Spain, in Ireland, in Greece.
00:15:59.000And they're saying, on top of all your other taxes, over 70% on average in Greece in taxes, we're now putting a new 20% VAT on all your restaurants and other tourism spots.
00:16:09.000And Europeans aren't even, I've got articles today, aren't even buying new electronics.
00:16:28.000And they're like, that's the plan, Jack!
00:16:31.000You think when California passed, this year, a 20 plus percent carbon tax on all their major industries, that they didn't know that would send California into cardiac arrest?
00:16:47.000You think when King John and Robin Hood's time, that's a true story, Did you know that when he was bankrupting everybody and driving the villagers into the woods, starving to death, that he was an idiot?
00:17:03.000He was going into Saxon areas that he'd never totally broken and trying to completely drive them into revolt so he had a reason to kill them and remove the Saxon lords that he thought weren't completely loyal to him.
00:17:18.000It's called a scorched earth policy and I'm not gonna sit here and get off and do an entire story here.
00:17:24.000But they were Norman, who'd come into the South, and they were still engaged in a Cold War against Saxon, who they hadn't completely routed out of the entire, uh, Imperium.
00:17:39.000Now here's the big news that ties into all of this.
00:17:43.000While the military and the police, and sadly the police, they can find the types in many cases that get off on this and buy into the propaganda, the police are who you gotta worry about.
00:17:54.000A lot of them are waking up too, but not like the military.
00:17:57.000They've been taught a disdain for the public and the rest of it, many of them.
00:18:02.000Our training for all-out war against the population, and that's now all over mainstream news, because they've got to get ready to let you know.
00:18:09.000They're not going to hide this anymore.
00:18:10.000They're not going to hide the world government.
00:18:12.000They're going to sell it, though, a private banking world government, as what's going to get food back on your table.
00:18:16.000Of course, it'll just make things worse.
00:18:39.000What a big major corporate raiders do, you know, in movies, they're based on a composite of true stories like Wall Street with Charlie Sheen and Michael Douglas.
00:18:51.000It's based on composites of real people.
00:18:56.000And in that, they go into like a $5 billion company And they wreck it and implode it just so they can sell off everything and get the pension funds and make a big profit right then instead of having something that lasted 20 more years and gave thousands of people jobs because the CEO wants that quick profit right then off of wrecking it and moves on to the next thing.
00:19:19.000They're not trying to have a healthy tree.
00:19:22.000They want to chop it down and use it for firewood.
00:19:25.000They don't want the tree to be there for shade for animals and things that live in the forest.
00:19:30.000They want to cut it down to throw in their siege engine to roll it down the road towards the next town they're going to burn.
00:19:39.000Now when I come back, probably one of the biggest things we've ever reported because this confirms the military is going to man the camps and that they're preparing for war.
00:19:51.000The general public is designated as red Government, what federal family as Janet Reno Napolitano calls it, is blue.
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00:24:57.000Because these great challenges are what make us or break us in this life that is a test.
00:25:04.000And we are facing even greater evil than our forebearers did.
00:25:09.000And we have been hit with every psychotronic brainwashing chemical system you can imagine.
00:25:15.000And so I want to apologize here on air that I've called people that are dumbed down and that laugh at us idiots and zombies.
00:25:23.000They are brainwashed victims and some of them are replicably damaged to a point of no return and we should say a prayer for them and I mean that.
00:25:33.000We should say a prayer for people that have been overrun by this system that the psychological warfare chiefs, the scientific dictators, have established.
00:25:43.000And it's up to us that have persevered through this and have been somewhat immune or more resistant.
00:25:51.000It is up to us, the strong, to protect the weak from these bullies that have a global scorched earth eugenics policy facing our society.
00:26:03.000Now, coming up in the next segment, I'm going to get to this article from C-SPAN.
00:26:10.000The second most cited law professor in the country, Jonathan Turley, talks about the fact that this does allow the killing of U.S.
00:27:00.000I mean, it's so creepy to watch these weird, evil old men, you know, a friendly old man Like a Hoppy Heidelberg, it's so nice and good and they put off an aura of wisdom and friendliness and goodness, but an evil old man.
00:27:16.000There's nothing nastier than a wicked, demonic old man where the evil just piles up on him.
00:27:25.000Like in a Christmas carol, where the chains of greed are just wrapped so tightly around Scrooge's old partner when he sees his ghost.
00:27:33.000He says, Scrooge, beware, your chains are twice this length and weight.
00:27:37.000You think greed Greed and having, you know, some of the starving kids of your employees dying put spiritual chains on you?
00:27:47.000How about consciously putting sodium fluoride and radioactive isotopes in 72% of U.S.
00:28:20.000I'm going to say it again to cops listening and military.
00:28:23.000The criminal eugenicist crazy scientist who think we're cancer and want to get rid of us, and who get off on playing with us like lab rats, My dad said in high school when he two summers worked at MD Anderson, most of the research scientists were really nice, really good people.
00:28:39.000But he said sometimes when they were doing experiments on people that had signed over because they were dying of cancer and missing their lower mandibles and just horror, my dad said you couldn't believe.
00:28:51.000Under, I forget the guy's name, some top Chinese cancer scientist.
00:28:55.000And, uh, he said, you know, just whole wards of people at MD Anderson, top cancer research facility, missing their lower mandibles, missing part of their head, you know, kids in there, animals.
00:29:06.000But he said some of those scientists got off on the pain.
00:29:09.000And they'd be injecting somebody with something that was really painful and they'd be going, ugh, just getting off on it.
00:29:14.000Or people be injecting lab rats and getting off on them dying.
00:29:17.000And my dad was like, ugh, what is this in research science?
00:29:33.000Is people who just... It's like when Eric Pionka's graduates, some of them that are medical doctors, sent me threatening emails when I exposed the UT guy calling for mass death of 90% and made national news.
00:29:46.000You know, his graduates sent me stuff and said, you know, we're gonna kill everybody.
00:29:51.000And then I went and looked them up and there they were in white lab coats at bioweapon facilities.
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00:33:57.000My cousin's body By the way, we're going to be here this Christmas on the air with a premiere special Christmas transmission.
00:34:09.000And I need to get a little bit into the war on Christmas.
00:34:11.000I don't talk enough about that, but it's all about the globalist dictating how we talk, what we do, what we celebrate, and using American and Western hospitality to train us to just totally give up any culture we had and accept the plastic Madison Avenue garbage.
00:34:29.000The Justin Bieber type New World Order stuff where Britney Spears says, I think we ought to just do whatever our President says and that's the end of it.
00:34:39.000Well, it doesn't matter if you don't do whatever your President says.
00:34:42.000Under this NDAA, it makes him Supreme Dictator and establishes martial law.
00:34:49.000In fact, let's go ahead and go to this C-SPAN clip.
00:34:52.000Even though this is one of the most important things we were going to cover last night on the Nightly News, I got so overwhelmed with our big top story I'm getting to in a moment that I didn't even play this.
00:35:45.000And you ignore this at your peril and all of our peril.
00:35:47.000We need you to make a decision, to get informed, to look at the facts, and to decide what side you're on.
00:35:55.000And to saddle up in the 21st century as the Paul Revere's you are, whether you're black, hispanic, white, asian, catholic, christian, jewish, hindu, atheist, whatever.
00:36:35.000I mean, that's from the mid-1980s Running Man written by Stephen King.
00:36:39.000Where anyone caught outside of their zone after dark will be permanently detained.
00:36:45.000You're like, imagine a world run by megacorporations with running man shows, you know, hunting people, and if you get caught outside after dark, you're permanently detained.
00:36:55.000They're talking about permanently detaining any... Did you know the government of the United States for decades tortures people?
00:37:03.000They torture political dissidents, they torture peaceful people, they torture doctors that refuse to be part of Medicaid or Medicare.
00:37:11.000Like Dr. Sell, last time I checked he spent 10 years in solitary confinement being forced drugged just because he sued him back.
00:37:19.000Congressman Hanson, they drove him around for months, only letting him off maybe 20 minutes a day off the bus till his feet burst.
00:37:30.000We were talking to a prominent nutrition company the other day, and the guy for just promoting whey powder and stuff, that's milk protein, was de-sold, I think he said for seven months, living on government transports as a form of torture.
00:37:53.000The dungeon keepers, psychically, spiritually, for whatever reason, for the same reason psychos like to grab little kids and torture them, they feed off the aura of chained humans in pain.
00:39:23.000If you got on a city bus and a guy ran into the bus with a machine gun and dynamite around their chest and said, I'm taking over, and he pistol whipped the driver and put on the driver's uniform, would you just immediately do whatever he said?
00:39:40.000Studies show, he pulled this up with Stockholm Syndrome, been around forever but they just named it.
00:39:46.000That about, what is it, 45% will totally submit and love the guy with the dynamite tied to him.
00:40:07.000And they're like, I don't like the dynamite.
00:40:09.000And at a certain point, you've got to just deal with it.
00:40:13.000You can't just keep giving in to these terrorists, who terrorize us with the terrorism.
00:40:17.000I mean, let's say you believe the terrorism's all real, and you ignore the fact that Al Qaeda was created by the criminals that run our government, and is being given control of all these countries right now, and all the rest of this.
00:40:47.000We're going to show a whole bunch of them tonight.
00:40:49.000You've got a better chance of being eaten by an American alligator, which is very rare.
00:40:56.000So, but it's not rare to be killed by an elephant or hippopotamus if you live in Africa.
00:41:01.000We're going to get into those numbers.
00:41:02.000Much better chance of dying from a rattlesnake bite here in the US than being killed by terrorists.
00:41:06.000So there's the whole hoax of our whole society changes and the police are dressed in black uniforms and there's checkpoints being set up and they're groping our wives and daughters and children.
00:41:17.000Because of terrorism, and then in every case you find out the government opens the door for the patsy lunatics that they use to attack us.
00:41:25.000And it's back in the news today, where the criminals that run our government are funding terrorists.
00:41:30.000So, at a primitive level, people look different than us, different culture, and there's all these shows, and South Park, and Team America, and it's fun to get into fear of the Muslims, and okay, well then why is the government bringing them in in record numbers?
00:41:45.000I mean, they're just all absolute devils who want to slit our throats.
00:42:52.000But you notice when they put out bids for FEMA camps in 2006 for civil emergency and catastrophic attacks and civil disorder?
00:42:59.000That at least the Wall Street Journal said, oh look, here's giant bids to build FEMA camps.
00:43:03.000Now that they've got Department of Defense under Rural Affairs running it, designating government employees as blue, U.S.
00:43:10.000citizens as red, in the same designation as Iraq and Afghanistan, where they're wearing transponders, and they talk about, you know, deploying forces, barricades, you know, delivering, I mean, it's all for the drones.
00:43:26.000GPS in your front door, Even I can't believe this, to actually see it happening, and to see them now flipping the power switches on.
00:43:39.000It's one thing to have a gun in the gun case, but now they've gone to the combination, they've opened it, they've gotten the M14 out, they've taken a loaded cartridge, and they've jammed it in, and they're now loading around in, chambering around, and now they're pointing it at us.
00:43:55.000And the documents say they're going to pull the trigger because they've designed the implosion.
00:44:00.000And in the implosion, the police, the military, everybody who goes along with this, you destroy yourself as well.
00:44:08.000It's not like you're having martial law because a nuke went off from a real terrorist or a meteor hit us or those giant, you know, 10.5 earthquakes all over the US or something.
00:44:19.000And then there's looting and whatever and the troops have got to be called out.
00:44:22.000This isn't some legitimate contingency plan.
00:44:25.000This is a controlled demolition on record for a post-industrial America.
00:44:30.000By criminal terrorists, banking oligarchs who publicly created the 1.5 quadrillion that had our treasonous government sign on to it.
00:44:42.000This is economic conquest with a paramilitary backup behind it.
00:44:49.000Now, we're 44 minutes into this transmission, and I'm going to open the phones up for the entire second hour ahead of Don Browning, one of the cops they haven't killed yet, who has the courage to come on.
00:45:01.000He's a retired Oklahoma City police officer, U.S.
00:45:05.000Don worked with a K-9 unit, was part of the search and rescue team at the Murrah building after the bombing.
00:45:12.000And they've talked to a bunch of cops off record and Department of Defense bomb disposal people.
00:45:16.000But a lot of them are on record in this film.
00:45:19.000Including the inventor of the neutron bomb, the former head of Air Force Weapons Development, and others saying there were bombs in the building.
00:45:23.000We have newscasts where they're removing them!
00:45:25.000Before they got their talking points straight.
00:45:27.000And they went to these cops and others and they said, we know where your daughter goes to school.
00:46:32.000these are times we get the information out and well the word is in d_c_ and and New York, Corzine is going to be allowed to keep the money.
00:46:45.000In a London bank account he's put it in, and this is the new precedent where they're just going to take everything publicly and not get in trouble.
00:46:51.000So our worst fears are being confirmed there.
00:46:52.000I mean, do you want to live in a world like that?
00:46:54.000Where you got some little dwarf, demonic, pig-faced person, little soft, chicken neck, not living in reality, Kim Jong-il running your life?
00:47:03.000Because giving in to government, that's what it does.
00:47:06.000How did the North Koreans set up the greatest police state dehumanization grid in human history?
00:48:06.000There have been a lot of elites who were in control, but actually wanted to build up society and educate people.
00:48:12.000Those have been called golden ages in different societies.
00:48:15.000This is people that want a dark age, a technocratic nightmare dark age, where they enjoy all the high-tech systems, and then we, those of us that are allowed to live, live in post-industrial squalor for their power-tripping enjoyment.
00:49:02.000It's about what's in here, and I have to be an example to others.
00:49:05.000I have to face the threats and the things that go on and move forward, just like Ron Paul does.
00:49:12.000Because it is in that service to humanity that we build on society and make things better.
00:49:20.000There were countless people, who we don't even know their names, of every color and creed before us, who gave everything they had for human dignity.
00:49:29.000And we are the brothers and sisters of those people in eternity.
00:49:34.000The value of that to my soul is the greatest gift and the ultimate treasure.
00:50:22.000Even mainstream news is writing separately how they're preparing for war against the general public.
00:50:27.000So the government's help with foreign banks destroy the country, now they're going to pose as the saviors as everything melts down.
00:50:32.000FEMA continuity of government plans prep total takeover of society, dispatching military domestically under economic collapse emergency.
00:50:41.000And it's set up on the blue slash red contingency operation of the Pentagon, where the United States under NORTHCOM has declared a war zone, as they've already told you, but that all U.S.
00:50:52.000citizens are enemies, unless carrying blue, blue team transponders.
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00:54:20.000Police and military in the first ten calls or so, the first few rounds, then everybody.
00:54:25.000I want to hear now that you see all this happening, and these open announcements that the government will kill citizens, arrest, now this secret document.
00:56:12.000But what's creepy is within an hour of us talking about it on air, before we even had put an article up, they were changing it and erasing stuff, but we already had it saved and we have that original one.
00:56:21.000Then they just totally pulled it and put it up saying, Department of Defense employees should not be posting classified things on here.
00:56:51.000Let's go to part of constitutional law scholar and professor Jonathan Turley on C-SPAN.
00:56:57.000President Obama just stated that he is going to maintain a policy that he can have any American citizen killed without any charge, without any review except his own.
00:57:38.000The American people say that they are more afraid of the government than they are outside forces, like terrorists.
00:57:46.000Well, that's because the American people, yeah, even the most hardcore liberals are now buying guns in these big studies that he was just mentioning that we posted last week at InfoWars and Prison Planet.
00:57:56.000Even the liberals are buying guns and now say they're more afraid of big government than big business.
00:58:01.000Now, you have to understand, big business runs the big government.
00:58:04.000The Republican leadership will not tell you that.
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01:00:28.000Alright, we're now into hour number two, and I want to open the phones up as we've been doing it once a week or so in the last month for active duty police, military, But also, if you just retired or you're the wife of a police officer or husband, whatever, I want your view.
01:02:43.000Some of my co-workers kind of know something is going on, and a lot of them are getting their guns and food, you know, ready for what's going to go on.
01:02:52.000You know, and I've been doing that already, you know, so I wouldn't be surprised if it looks like New Orleans here.
01:03:07.000They feel that something's not right, you know, as far as, like, the way the economy, just everything is going on, but they just can't, you know, put two and two together, that everything is, you know, being, we're being directed, like you said, into this.
01:04:06.000And the globalists aren't just going to try to take over domestically without launching a war, because they know that people at a primitive level tend to rally around the government, even if it's run by criminals.
01:04:17.000I mean, look what happened in Germany.
01:04:18.000I mean, Hitler wasn't very popular the last four or five years, but he had them in a big war.
01:08:23.000It'll be 2012 time as the globalists openly try to establish world government based on an anti-human eugenics or Nazi type situation.
01:08:34.000Uh, Freeman, Matt, Mike, Perry and others, you're coming up.
01:08:37.000A lot of times when I open the phones up for police and military, uh, active duty or currently serving, I say, you know, I want to hear what you think about this legislation to arrest citizens we've covered in the last month and let the military engage in domestic operations and even kill citizens outside of law or charges.
01:08:54.000We got one police officer from New York City to call in.
01:08:58.000He was almost the last segment of you just joined us.
01:09:01.000And he said some of the other peace officers are waking up.
01:09:04.000They are know that a big collapse is obviously a serious probability now from being a possibility to a probability.
01:09:13.000Unfortunately, we're in a depression undoubtedly.
01:09:15.000It's just incrementally getting worse.
01:09:18.000But If you just joined us, we also have been talking about this new document that was pointed out to us on the federal bid website, you know, .gov site, saying, you know, military to run the camps, to take over all of society, to take over local government, government will wear transponders, that they're blue friendlies, everyone else is an enemy.
01:09:43.000And I had the Department of Defense whistleblower on who pointed it out to us.
01:09:46.000Now, an hour after we linked to it, It was pulled.
01:09:51.000When I mentioned it on air, they started changing it and removing stuff.
01:09:56.000But a lot of the key stuff was still there.
01:09:57.000Then they just pulled it and said, you know, Department of Defense employees are not supposed to, remember, do not post classified material, implying it was classified.
01:10:05.000But we have it saved up at InfoWars.com.
01:10:08.000And there's other files of it online as well.
01:10:12.000And we also put it up on a Flickr account, images of it.
01:11:07.000But political newsletters were churned out.
01:11:08.000And at one time, by 92, he had 14 newsletters Under his name.
01:11:17.000And I remember learning later why he fired some people, and no one knew this, and I probably shouldn't talk about it.
01:11:22.000He ended up firing a whole group of people that worked for him because of it, before it was ever an issue.
01:11:28.000When he was first in Congress in the 80s, and this is on record, you can go look it up, he voted for the Martin Luther King Day, the only time he's voted for something that's unconstitutional.
01:12:00.000He's racist towards black people but doesn't want the HIV put in the vaccines to kill them.
01:12:05.000And so, yeah, there's some stuff like, yeah, you know, they'll stop, you know, the black folks in LA will stop rioting when the welfare check gets there.
01:12:12.000Well, I mean, that is what dependency does.
01:12:14.000And I don't, Ron Paul says he didn't write that particular one because it'd be like JonesReport.com.
01:12:20.000And I've had a lot of articles written, probably 95% of it I haven't written.
01:12:24.000I mean, you just pick through it, 14 different newsletters simultaneously being published, and one was a special supplement edition that on record he didn't write.
01:12:33.000And they go, well, but your name's on it.
01:12:39.000So Ron Paul fired people back whenever he noticed this had became an issue in the mid-90s.
01:12:46.000And it doesn't matter, Ron Paul in speeches, and Ron Paul in events, and Ron Paul working in inner city hospitals, at charity hospitals, who Ron Paul is, has always stood there.
01:12:59.000And he doesn't want all these wars killing brown people everywhere.
01:13:02.000So it is this use of race that they always push to divide people.
01:13:09.000And they brought this up against Rand, and said he wasn't a medical doctor, kidnapped women, worshipped aqua buddhas, all of it was just made up craziness.
01:13:17.000Had people dress up in hayseed outfits, which is insulting to rural people, whether they be black, white, or whatever.
01:13:23.000They all pretty much dress the same, folks.
01:13:24.000I've been out in the country quite a bit, live there.
01:13:43.000So you've got all these dirty tricks going on.
01:13:46.000You know, Obama unfroze the money for Africa for basically forced abortions, where they tell the women, you want to get a small payment, have an abortion.
01:13:54.000So see, killing black babies isn't racist.
01:13:59.000But, out of thousands and thousands and thousands, I mean, if you've got newsletters published every week, 14 of them at one time, quite a big franchise, and Ron Paul said, yeah, the company with the 20 or so people was making millions a year, profit, or gross, not profit, but yeah, it was, and I apologize, and it was immoral that I didn't have total control over all this as a full-time practicing obstetrician delivering babies.
01:14:26.000And I let it get out of control and I apologize.
01:14:30.000And so they only bring it back and bring it back because they first told you he couldn't win.
01:14:34.000Now they say he'll discredit the caucuses.
01:14:36.000They're gonna cheat him on the black box in New Hampshire.
01:14:52.000Well, I wonder if I was listening to the neocons on radio last week and it was disgusting at how they were bringing up this point about the newsletters.
01:15:02.000You could see how all of them had talking points.
01:15:10.000Like you said, you know, he didn't have control over the newsletters.
01:15:14.000How come Limbaugh can have a thing called Obama the Magic Negro, clearly racist, and it was okay, though?
01:15:22.000I mean, that was airing three and a half years ago.
01:15:24.000You know, not some thing saying, yeah, the blacks, when they get their welfare check, they'll stop rioting, and then somebody else wrote it.
01:16:17.000I keep showing people videos of Ron Paul, like, information on the internet, and a lot of them are starting to believe in him, because they, you know, they've seen that he's consistent, unlike the other candidates who just straight out lie in your face, like Gingrich, um, Bromley, and Michelle Bachman, who won't war when, you know, she was never even a veteran, you know?
01:16:36.000But, like I said, thank you very much for the hard work, Alex, and I'll continue to spread the information out there.
01:16:41.000Rinaldo, let me just ask you one last question.
01:16:43.000You say you've been awake for a while, talking to other police officers.
01:17:04.000I mean, are you concerned that we now confirm the FEMA camps are going to be Pentagon run and that the American people, period, are designated as an enemy?
01:17:54.000I mean, I was in all three components of the Army within the first year, and being in the Guard and the Reserve, we were... I mean, they had us out on the streets doing stuff.
01:18:08.000And so, I was like, okay, this is a little bit strange.
01:18:13.000And now they're talking about imprisonment and set-asides and all this.
01:18:22.000Well, they know they're getting ready to collapse the country, but yeah, no, all over the country in the last 10 years, high school football games, random highways, the videos come in almost every week of just troops searching cars, regular army, big army, National Guard, Marines, Air Force MPs, with TSA, and I'm like, hey, if this is going on, you should be concerned, they're getting us ready for it.
01:18:47.000And that's the thing, when they bring the military in, they didn't do it for whatever cover story they've got.
01:18:52.000They've been getting ready for this for a long time, Freeman, obviously, as you know.
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01:24:30.000So when they take over America, the troops, the public, everybody just goes, well, that's what they do.
01:24:34.000Remember two years ago, it's in my Police State 4 film, They were setting up 15 different agencies with Homeland Security running it, TSA, Air Force, Army, State Police, DEA, FBI, it was 15 agencies in Tennessee and in four surrounding states were just shutting down highways and searching people.
01:24:55.000People were freaking out, even in small towns.
01:24:58.000And the governor said, Feds, get out of here, you can't do it.
01:25:01.000And they literally said, John Warner Defense Authorization Act, shut up.
01:25:07.000And now Tennessee, you saw on the news two months ago, another stage, has TSA checkpoints in it.
01:25:13.000And man, I saw the video on the news, the families drive up to these checkpoints and they've got the state police with those Marine Corps drill sergeant hats and they got their hands out to their side like they're looking at Al-Qaeda and they're just like, oh, oh God, Al-Qaeda's everywhere.
01:27:16.000This is kind of off topic, but I just wanted to bring it up.
01:27:19.000I didn't know if you heard anything about it.
01:27:21.000Have you heard about this trillion dollar lawsuit that's supposed to be filed against the United Nations and the Federal Reserve on behalf of something called the Dragon Family?
01:27:32.000I actually checked on paster.gov and this actually exists, the lawsuit.
01:27:38.000It looks like They're trying to sue all these people because of gold that was taken away from them years ago, and the person behind it that's been reporting on it is Benjamin Fulford.
01:27:53.000I don't know if he's legitimate or not.
01:27:54.000We hear a lot about Benjamin Fulford and I used to write for Forbes and got an interview with David Rockefeller and I know about that from Japan.
01:28:02.000We'll go ahead and get him on about it and email to showtips at infowars.com, the particular lawsuit filing site where I can actually see that.
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01:38:19.000Here it is, CNN poll, Ron Paul, most popular Republican amongst non-whites.
01:38:24.000And they dug through thousands of newsletters to find a few things that are kind of flippant.
01:38:32.000But for mainline Republican stuff, this is nothing.
01:38:35.000I mean, they say terrible racist stuff all the time, and that's just fine and dandy.
01:38:38.000This is stuff like, well, when the blacks will stop rioting, and South Central, when the welfare checks arrive.
01:38:44.000And then Paul, decades ago, said he didn't write that.
01:38:48.000Some bad things that were in the FBI files, who knows if they're true, about probably Martin Luther King, you know, sex with people or whatever.
01:38:56.000And that came out five years after Paul had voted to put Martin Luther King Day out there.
01:39:04.000And had given speeches about how he admired Martin Luther King standing up against tyranny.
01:40:06.000I'm not going to give it attention because it's what they want, and I could definitely win a lawsuit against them, but there is a Dallas publication Uh, that I remember six months ago implied I was working for the Communist Chinese.
01:41:17.000I mean, they are getting really desperate.
01:41:20.000Like that headline in CBS News, Alex Jones.
01:41:23.000You know, Ron Paul likes Alex Jones and Alex Jones says they put stuff in the water to make you gay.
01:41:29.000I read the BBC and Associated Press about gender bending and men having higher estrogen and it changing their different glands in their bodies, confusing sexual activity, but also in every other mammal that is in the food chain now.
01:41:41.000I mean, that's just, I was reading BBC, but that's how they spin it.
01:42:22.000Meanwhile, across the political spectrum, constitutional lawyers say this makes the government a dictatorship and allows them to kill citizens.
01:43:14.000And as you can see after, and I told you when he went into first place over the weekend, I said, get ready to hear that he's a Ku Klux Klan grand dragon.
01:43:25.000I actually saw an article saying this crazy racist Ron Paul thinks that AIDS was created to kill black people.
01:43:30.000I mean, they even like writing crazy oxymoron stuff.
01:43:34.000It's like, who are these people they hire?
01:43:37.000And mainstream articles have spelling errors and jumbled stuff all over it.
01:43:42.000I mean, who are, I guess, to hire traitors?
01:43:45.000Because a lot of good media people have left the mainstream media.
01:43:47.000That's another reason there's a brain drain out of the dinosaur media, and that's why the alternative media is now the media.
01:43:54.000Like that reporter we had on Mr. Hunter yesterday.
01:43:57.000He's worked for CNN, you know, ABC Nightly News, all of it.
01:44:01.000And he, look at him, he's over there making more money, reaching more people, being in front of the camera reporter and writer than he ever did working for them, and he's not compromising.
01:44:11.000And he said, Alex, they're not the mainstream media anymore.
01:44:19.000They may sit up there in some $20 million studio and we're in our, you know, $200,000 studio and it's all flashy and they got some person in a $3,000 suit.
01:45:06.000New rules make it possible for a Republican establishment to steal a nomination from a candidate they don't like.
01:45:12.000They've changed that now so they can come in and basically steal it.
01:45:17.000The following rule was adopted by the Republican Party.
01:45:20.000Any Presidential Primary Caucus Convention or other meeting held for the purpose of selecting delegates to the National Convention Which occurs prior to the first day of April in the year in which the National Convention is held shall provide for the allocation of delegates on a proportional basis.
01:45:42.000And it goes into how they can then manipulate that.
01:46:02.000Oh yeah, even if the first time you ever heard of Ron Paul was looking at his newsletter things, after a couple of links you'd get Right to Prison Planet, you'd get to his answers in the debate, and you would realize, you know, especially if you're already skeptical of the mainstream news.
01:46:25.000And one of your, I got your shirt that says the answer to 1984.
01:47:11.000We're going to have to pose as liberals.
01:47:13.000And she was a confidant of Adolf Hitler.
01:47:16.000Again, I mean of course Ron Paul's newsletters had disdain for the welfare class, both corporate and private, and talked about people on welfare and stuff.
01:47:25.000Again, there's a difference between Ron Paul, you watch him in those different talk show, TV shows he went on that are on YouTube, Morton Downey Jr.
01:48:03.000I have some information that was handed to me or told to me the other day that surprised me.
01:48:08.000I have some friends in Arkansas, and they told me that they were talking to somebody, the contractor that is building the Urban Assault Training Center at Fort Chaffee, Fort Smith, Arkansas, as we speak.
01:48:44.000And guys, search Fort Chaffee Urban Assault Center.
01:48:48.000But yes, they're building giant urban assault centers everywhere.
01:48:52.000And they have dual use for other countries.
01:48:53.000But the main focus and All armed services for at least five years have dropped everything and are training even the mechanics and logistics people in urban warfare, mount and crowd control for America.
01:49:13.000I don't know what I heard, it just kind of shocked me because I've listened to you guys for quite some time, but also Big Red One was moved out of Germany to Kansas for a reason.
01:49:24.000It is one of the biggest military groups that there is.
01:49:29.000So, back then, this is two years ago, this is when I started paying attention to... No, no, no, that's why I said yesterday, Big Red One's coming for you.
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01:54:24.000He worked the K-9 unit, was part of the search and rescue team at the Murrah building after the bombing.
01:54:29.000And this is going to be an amazing interview.
01:54:31.000Again, it keeps breaking down the information that's in the film, a noble lie.
01:54:36.000I want to go back to your calls, and I haven't even gotten to the news yet on the subject of North Korea, the economy, and the Stinger missiles.
01:54:44.000But I'll get to them one way or the other, and we'll cover it all in the nightly news tonight.
01:54:47.000That's one good thing about doing the nightly news.
01:54:48.000A lot of the most important stuff I never get to on the radio.
01:54:54.000But right now, let's go back to Dale in Kansas.
01:54:58.000So tell me the name of the base, where you were, what area of it was.
01:55:03.000But yeah, that's what the Model Emergency Centers Establishment Act says, is that it's already there at bases, stockade facilities, and that it's set up and waiting for emergencies.
01:55:16.000And now we have the documents saying the military is going to man them.
01:55:18.000And we already knew that from some other documents, but this shows it's all been green-lighted right now.
01:55:23.000And it doesn't mean it has to go there, but it shows that criminals that have gotten control of our government think that they're going to be able to just totally steal everything and have us sign on to all their derivatives and launch all these new wars because they've got control of the government through continuity of government.
01:55:41.000But, Dale, you say you were a long-haul truck driver.
01:57:34.000I mean, with the real barbed wire fence and all it had was tents in there, little tents, and a whole bunch of porta-potties on one end of it, and then it had... What really shook me up was when I saw the gang walk up on top of, you know, up at the top of the fence.
01:57:49.000Sure, it's got an area for guards to walk around with shotguns.
01:57:52.000Right, just like, just like you'd see in a prison camp.
01:57:56.000And that's what really shook me up, and that has always stuck in my head.
01:57:59.000And then, of course, I watch this stuff every day, and I listen to you and stuff, and I listen to other things.
01:58:07.000And there has been, you all were talking about the buildup of police.
01:58:13.000Well, Interstate 70, I traveled it every day across Missouri, and there has been a buildup of police.
01:58:19.000State troopers, county sheriffs, everything.
01:58:24.000I would say it's probably tripled in build-up.
01:58:28.000Oh yeah, they're building up for the bankers to kill America and the cops.
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02:00:30.000Alright, we've got an amazing guest coming up, actually two amazing guests coming up, joining us via video Skype in the next segment.
02:00:39.000Oklahoma City investigators, one of them who was there when the bombing, in the aftermath, that is coming up in the next segment.
02:00:48.000Also in some of the other news, Obama prepared to attack military action.
02:00:53.000Again, Obama prepared to take military action against Iran.
02:00:56.000Dennis Ross, a big Obama advisor, says if Obama draws the conclusion that certain kind of steps should be taken against Iran, he'll take them.
02:01:07.000Yeah, because he's completely blackmailed and controlled.
02:01:11.000Dozens of people die in roadside bombs in Iraq right as the United States begins to officially pull out.
02:01:20.000It has all those advisers and embassy staff and mercenaries there.
02:01:23.000And Tony Cardalucci, writer for Infowars.com, has a big article out.
02:01:31.000In a move that almost defies belief, It is so brazen and hypocritical, many will not believe it, no matter how many State Department officials confirm it.
02:02:20.000It's offshore megabanks that are totally ruthless and hire criminal mercenary groups to stage terror attacks all over the world, to finance other terror groups, to stage bombings here in the U.S., to do it all so the system can take our liberties and freedoms and pose as our saviors.
02:02:38.000And it is so incredibly dangerous on that front.
02:02:43.000Looking at Korea and China, ex-president Carter sends condolences to Kim Jong-un.
02:02:49.000And that only props these crazy hereditary dictators up.
02:02:57.000I understand they've got to have somebody who can diplomatically talk to these people.
02:03:00.000But why did Donald Rumsfeld, as the head of the big Swiss company back in the mid-1990s, transfer the reactor systems so North Korea could have nuclear weapons?
02:03:13.000Continuing, Finland finds Patriot missiles on China-bound ship marked as fireworks.
02:03:19.000See, Walt, you're busy being told to be scared to death of Al-Qaeda under the table.
02:03:22.00010,000-plus missiles, 2,000-plus that are high-tech, surface-to-air missiles were basically given to Al-Qaeda and allowed to keep them when Al-Qaeda was given control of Libya by NATO.
02:03:39.000Teleblunt and Telegraph headlines like, Al-Qaeda flag now flies over Libya, Al-Qaeda being sent in to fight Syrians, Al-Qaeda works for the globalists that have hijacked this country.
02:03:50.000People are like, but why would they have them attack us?
02:03:52.000So they can take all our liberties, blame Iraq that had nothing to do with it, and invade them.
02:04:52.000After Mr. Napolitano told him to be, I'm joking, after finding explosives poorly stored on open pallets and missiles were then found in containers marked fireworks.
02:05:02.000More on this coming up, but first, our guest.
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02:08:13.000All right, we are continuing our series of interviews to document what really happened in Oklahoma City on the record this week.
02:08:28.000And I'll do it next week and into the new year, at least once or twice a week, because there's so many amazing people that are interviewed and then some that aren't interviewed.
02:08:37.000In this film, A Noble Lie, Oklahoma City 1995, Jane Graham, the head of HUD, who was in the building and saw known feds planting bombs.
02:08:47.000She didn't know what they were at the time.
02:09:35.000And I've been talking a lot more in the last year about Oklahoma City again, as you know.
02:09:39.000I mean, I made a 40-minute film, then a film, and I've made a lot of films that are like three hours long, like Road to Tyranny, that's really three different subjects.
02:09:46.000The History of Terror and the New World Order, State's Terror, then Oklahoma City, the First World Trade Center, and then into 9-11.
02:09:54.000Now, this video is available at Infowars.com and it supports the filmmakers and, of course, my operation when you get it.
02:10:01.000But bottom line, get it, air it on AXS TV, have local showings in your area, just like with my films, get my films, you're authorized to make copies of my films.
02:10:10.000I want all of my videos out there to everybody because this is a life and death situation.
02:10:16.000I mean, you watch my police state films, you'll understand what's now unfolding.
02:10:28.000Don worked in the K-9 unit and was part of the search and rescue team at the Murrah building after the bombing.
02:10:35.000And we're going to go to some important questions.
02:10:37.000And riding shotgun with him is Holland Vanden Neuwenhoff.
02:10:41.000He is a native of Oklahoma and served as a rifle squad leader in Marine Corps.
02:10:46.000Holland decided to get off the bench one day and started riding and passing out leaflets that expose government corruption and cover-ups.
02:10:52.000These efforts led him to collaborate with the Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee in their efforts to uncover the truth behind the OKC bombing.
02:11:00.000He was instrumental in the formation of the first low-power FM station in Oklahoma to fight the globalists.
02:11:05.000I had that part that focused on truth and freedom issues carrying my show course.
02:11:09.000Holland engages in a variety of endeavors to spread awareness in his community.
02:11:14.000Absolutely, and fight the criminals that have taken this country over.
02:11:16.000So both these gentlemen join us, good American patriots and Marines fighting the tyranny.
02:11:22.000And from my memory, Don, I've never talked to you, but I believe you were one of the guys got threatened, too.
02:11:26.000We've talked to the other guys, some of the people off record, the Department of Defense, bomb disposal, you name it, where they said, don't ask questions about the bombs, or we know where your daughter goes to school.
02:11:49.000What is most important for us to understand?
02:11:51.000And, Holland, you can pretty much, because you know him well and have studied Oklahoma even more than I have, where do you think we should go first?
02:12:00.000Well, we can start with the day of the bombing, of course, when Don responded, and the get-into-the-evacuations that were later denied that they took place, and the explosives that were found inside the building.
02:12:12.000Don, you were the first to respond, one of the first to respond to the bombing, right?
02:12:20.000And, uh, one of the main points of the movie, what we try to emphasize is the fact that there were several evacuations, uh, after the initial bombing, that they were later denied.
02:12:29.000They said they were false alarms or hoaxes.
02:12:32.000But in A Noble Lie, we have videotape from a sheriff's deputy.
02:12:37.000Taken during one of the evacuations that shows the ATF pulling weapons and plastic Explosives out of the building no one has seen this tape well some people have but it's been passed down Hand-to-hand we digitally remastered the tape no one has seen into this quality and it's never seen widespread publicity Yeah, by the way, that's the kind of stuff that's in this film is many of your team have been on this for over a decade.
02:13:02.000I mean, this is a obsession to get the murder of these children out.
02:13:11.000And once I started realizing what had happened, I felt it was my duty to expose the truth.
02:13:15.000I saw that no one else, I mean, other people were doing it.
02:13:17.000But I wanted to really get the story out to the people.
02:13:20.000We found a team, we got a good director's team, production, editing, and we made the movie as the best way to get the message out to the masses.
02:13:28.000Exactly, and it's the only, you know, well done testament in modern times.
02:13:32.000So let's get into why Don is such an incredible witness and such an amazing expert.
02:13:37.000Well Don, you were actually in the building in the K-9 Rescue Unit and during one of the evacuations, what were they doing during the evacuations?
02:13:49.000As far as the initial evacuation, we were just trying to determine the location of the victims, really trying to determine how to remove some of the debris.
02:14:00.000At about 11.30, 10.30, 11 o'clock that first morning, we were halted for the first time, ordered out of the building for no other reason than they wanted to secure the building.
02:14:15.000On a limited access, we were allowed back in, in fact, worked for a little bit, in the area with Dana Bradley, who's had her leg amputated, being pinned in the building.
02:14:30.000Worked in that area for the next little bit, and then finally we were ordered out by the U.S. Marshals.
02:14:36.000We were sequestered pretty much on the south side of the Murrah building in the courtyard area.
02:14:44.000I was kind of held at bay, told that we'd be allowed to go back in and search, but there were files that were so critical to the government that until those files were found, there would be no more rescue or recovery.
02:14:57.000There was a gentleman that was, apparently he was already deceased, but he was still laying, bleeding out on the south face of the building.
02:15:07.000And you could see that and they wouldn't let you recover?
02:15:10.000And because they had to recover documents?
02:15:14.000What's important about that, Alex, is that maybe one of the reasons that this happened is that their priority was on the documents for some reason.
02:15:22.000Recovering those documents to the detriment of the people who were trapped inside and died.
02:15:26.000As the Oklahoma City Police Chief said on camera, that we lost people because of the evacuations.
02:15:34.000And we have all the newscasts where the governor's, yeah, they found more bombs, they're taking them out, that's another device the bomb squad has, and here's Don Browning, who was there, you know, with the dog, and was a police officer and also a marine veteran, so he, I mean, just amazing to see what was going on.
02:16:30.000We have affidavits from first responders saying that there were at least two other bombs discovered in the rubble, that one of these bombs was timed to go off 10 minutes after the first explosion.
02:16:41.000This is a typical terrorist tactic is to have at least two bombs, one to attract responders and the second bomb to inflict even greater casualties.
02:16:50.000So there, I mean, this could have been worse.
02:16:51.000That's the bad thing about Oklahoma City.
02:16:53.000As bad as it was, it could have been much, much worse.
02:16:57.000Now going through some of these questions, what really got you asking questions, and I'm going from memory in second hand, Don, how did things progress with the feds telling you to get out of there?
02:17:07.000Were you ever threatened like some of the other police were?
02:17:11.000Yes sir, at one point that morning I was advised that we were going to be arrested by federal marshals if we did not leave the immediate area.
02:17:21.000Like I said, we didn't want to be a hindrance.
02:17:23.000We didn't really understand what was going on at that point.
02:17:27.000So we did withdraw and stayed sequestered there on the courtyard area in hopes that we were going to be allowed to go back in.
02:17:38.000Interestingly, we were advised at that point that no police dog would be allowed back in the building.
02:17:43.000That there would be the search and rescue dogs be coming in from private sources.
02:17:48.000So they couldn't trust the Oklahoma City Police, but they'd have some special people coming.
02:17:54.000I want to get into all the technicals and the horse patrol being mobilized before the bombing and what Terrence Yankee saw and, you know, really the key points here with you, sir, but bottom line from 16 years of researching this, being in it, and what you know and seeing this film, as a police officer, as an investigator, as a veteran, with a lot of different perspectives and wisdom, what do you believe really happened with Oklahoma City Police?
02:18:20.000I personally believe that there was a secondary explosion.
02:18:23.000I don't know whether it was sympathetic to the truck explosion and that it was just armament that was stored in the Murrah building.
02:18:33.000But due to the destructive nature of what occurred, and particularly closer to the East side of the building on the south side where there was total destruction.
02:18:46.000I do believe that there was at least a sympathetic explosion.
02:18:52.000The damage pattern to the building when you look at it is asymmetrical to the truck bomb.
02:18:56.000It's offset from the major damage to the building.
02:18:58.000The crater is offset from the major bite as we show in the movie.
02:19:02.000It's on the other end of the building from it and we can see it right behind you there.
02:19:06.000The truck bomb was basically where your shoulder is Uh, Holland, uh, you're a shoulder that's facing, you know, uh, inward towards Don, and then if you see back in the corner where the, uh, earphone is, where Don is, that's, that's where you had columns blown off at the base, and Parton says, uh, that it was, you know, specifically charges on those columns.
02:19:44.000He knew it could not be an ammonium nitrate truck bomb.
02:19:47.000So he analyzed, did his famous part and report, which concluded that the columns inside the Murrah building were destroyed due to Brazant's damage, meaning that there were contact explosives on the columns, that the truck bomb was not the sole cause of destruction that day.
02:20:02.000That truck bomb did do a lot of damage, and it was powerful.
02:20:05.000But what it would have done to the Murrah building was basically blown in all the windows and damaged the facade.
02:20:10.000Well, that's what you see in Saudi Arabia with trucks full of military grade, is it just blows the facade off and blows things through the building, sometimes both sides, but the columns are right there.
02:20:22.000The supporting columns were there, and the Murr Building was constructed in the 70s with bomb resistance in mind, because there was a lot more political instability going on in the post-60s era back then.
02:20:58.000Hoppy Hoddleburg, police officers, doctors that show up.
02:21:02.000The ATF's in their full gear like a minute after.
02:21:06.000As a police officer, Don, watching them act so suspicious, I mean, what does that look like to you?
02:21:11.000and what did other police officers tell you off record their view was on this?
02:21:15.000One of the bomb officers was describing to me one of what he thought was one of the secondary devices, devices and he said that he had a clock real similar to it sitting on his desk, which was just a three-rowed stick of dynamite with an alarm clock stuck on it, just kind of a decoration type thing.
02:21:39.000And I really was serious about trying to convince me that that's what they thought was a secondary device.
02:21:50.000Of course, then we got a little more involved in our conversations and he said that they did find nitrous bottle end caps and other things that would help accelerate the info bomb.
02:22:03.000One of the stories they propagated to cover one of the evacuations is that three different bomb squads had mistaken a toy alarm clock as a real bomb, which is ludicrous.
02:22:15.000And no reason to evacuate the entire building before that could actually be concluded and ascertained on the site.
02:22:20.000You wouldn't evacuate the building before you actually determined that it was a bomb, especially because there's people inside bleeding out.
02:22:26.000But you've got pieces of the building blown the opposite direction away from the truck bomb on top of the building across the street.
02:22:35.000That truck bomb exploded on the north side of the building, yet north of that, across the street, there were chunks of the Murrah building that somehow transported themselves against the blast wave of the truck bomb.
02:22:46.000And that's the thing about this whole story is that it is a conclusive fact that that truck bomb was not the sole cause of agent.
02:22:53.000Yet, the cover-up has gone into effect.
02:22:55.000Everyone on the scene knows that the truck bomb was not the sole cause of destruction.
02:23:00.000And we see how the mainstream media and the government is able to manipulate a story Take what is actually reality, which is that there were bombs inside the building that did most of the damage and change it to something else, destroy the crime scene while there were still bodies inside.
02:23:14.000A month after the bombing, they demolished that building and there were still a number of people inside, deceased persons of course, but they were in such a rush that they wouldn't even recover the bodies.
02:23:27.000Yeah, we did pull the, in fact we had located One of the female victims that we had to leave inside the building on the night of the 4th and the building was pretty unstable in that area.
02:23:41.000But rather than trying to shore anything up, we were removed.
02:23:47.000The building was brought down and we were allowed to go back in the 29th of May and research the area and did locate that lady along with one of her female companion workers and another gentleman that had died in the blast.
02:24:01.000Well, I know this is hard to talk about.
02:24:03.000A lot of key questions we haven't gotten to yet here.
02:24:06.000Don Browning, retired Oklahoma City police officer, canine rescue handler, was there right after one of the first people there on the scene, a former U.S.
02:24:16.000Could you tell us, you've told us about the marshals threatening the police.
02:24:19.000What about FBI threatening you specifically?
02:24:22.000Within the weeks that followed after the actual occurrence, FBI agents were assigned to set up a communication station at the Oklahoma City Police Canine and Equine Center.
02:24:38.000And they were in and out of our office through the day.
02:24:40.000Of course, we were supposed to just conduct business as normal.
02:24:43.000And they were still concluding their investigations.
02:24:48.000But was told more than once or twice by agents in the area that people like my wife and I would end up, have ended up dead by not going along with what we knew to be true.
02:25:00.000Well, so you're a decorated Vietnam veteran, police officer, one of the heroes that responded when there could have been other bombs and was thought there were other bombs, and the FBI agents in the police office are telling you, do what you're told or you and your wife are dead.
02:25:18.000And you're saying this on record here, sir.
02:25:23.000Please elaborate for the millions of listeners exactly what happened.
02:25:26.000If you'd like to name names, I'm not afraid of these people.
02:25:31.000Um, as far as names, I really don't know.
02:25:33.000I do know there was an agent, uh, Jim Height, that, uh, had contacted me, uh, that was concerned about the health of the dogs, uh, right about the same time.
02:25:42.000Uh, his story was that, uh, the building had been, uh, uh, sprayed with a, uh, An agent similar to Agent Orange to try to slow decomposition and that there was supposedly was complaints that the odor of the decomp is becoming an issue to the surrounding area in the community.
02:26:10.000Again, there were just different things that occurred that just absolutely defied my understanding why they would why they would use something such as Agent Orange.
02:26:20.000Without warning, I've said what they were doing.
02:26:25.000But I mean, separately, how did, I mean, did they phone call you?
02:26:29.000I mean, did an agent in the hall say, hey, you better do what you're told or you and your wife are dead?
02:26:33.000I mean, I mean, how would they talk to you?
02:26:35.000No, they were, it was person to person in the hallway there in the office there at the canine center.
02:26:39.000So they'd say, do what you're told or you and your wife are dead?
02:27:56.000Those cameras would have recorded everything that happened in front of the Murrah building.
02:28:00.000You know, if we are, if we are wrong, and they want to prove it, you know, if you can show the tape that shows McVeigh getting out of that truck, and that truck causing damage to that building, I'll go home and I'll never talk to you again in my life.
02:28:10.000Well, they've declared national security.
02:28:11.000Some good FBI agents have gone public.
02:28:14.000Times, nine years ago, they said they've seen the tapes, there's twenty-something of them, and it does show McVeigh with a bunch of other men, and that's why the government doesn't want it released.
02:28:25.000The Secret Service timeline records that when they looked at the tape, that there were suspects exiting the truck three minutes after it was parked.
02:28:50.000She lost her children and her mother and her leg in the bombing.
02:28:54.000She gained some notoriety because she was trapped in the rubble and they had to amputate on site.
02:29:00.000Under cross-examination, she admitted that when she was in the social security office waiting in line, she saw that Ryder truck pull up, Tim McVeigh got out of one side, and a suspect, another man, got out of the other side.
02:29:14.000And then the federal prosecutors tried to drag her name through the mud and say that she had misremembered the day, that it was another day that she had lost her entire family and her leg, that she saw that Ryder truck pull up with two people.
02:33:37.000And so then they carried out Oklahoma City to blame it on domestic groups and on the state's rights movement and to make Bill Clinton look like a victim.
02:33:47.000He could demonize talk radio and conservatives.
02:33:49.000And I mean, it was so obvious by their instant response in minutes.
02:33:56.000And I remember being in Austin and people were mailing the tapes down and putting them on AXS TV.
02:34:00.000That's why I went down and got an AXS TV show in 95, was watching the soap opera every week of the tapes mailed down to Patriots from Oklahoma City and the other Patriots locally putting it on with the bombs coming out of the building and General Parton at press conferences and Hoppy Heidelberg being threatened and you know all this stuff going on.
02:34:20.000And then you find out that so many of these other events have been staged, and then to have these police officers killed and threatened and Department of Defense people that were there for bomb disposal threatened.
02:34:32.000We know where your daughter lives, where your daughter goes to school.
02:34:35.000Again, ladies and gentlemen, You can say, well, I would, you know, punch him in the nose or whatever, but imagine being in a police headquarters and FBI guys come over when you're walking down the hall and say, you and your wife are going to get it if you don't stop what you're doing.
02:35:04.000The guy was the Attorney General, he was Deputy Attorney General then, and in lawsuits his emails and memos have come out where he's like, April 20th, we gotta get to Oklahoma and this is D-Day, these are quotes, and cover this up.
02:35:24.000What happened in Oklahoma City, Eric Holder was in charge of the investigation for the Justice Department.
02:35:29.000He managed the investigation, later in charge of the Trinidad cover-up, now Attorney General of the United States, and now he has gun walker all over him.
02:35:36.000This man has killed thousands of people.
02:37:23.000I had a lot of citizens that was calling, giving information.
02:37:27.000I was trying to follow through with different tidbits of information I was getting, even from persons such as Jamie Carverdale and Glenn Wilbur and his wife.
02:37:45.000that we should be looking into all those things.
02:37:48.000And they were pretty frustrated that for the most part they were being ignored or being told it didn't matter.
02:37:57.000It was similar to like Dana Bradley, I mentioned earlier, I was called into the US Attorney's Office and was questioned as to what she said to me the entire time that I was near her.
02:38:14.000I wanted to know every if and but, every I, every T. She was groaning.
02:38:44.000It was, well I was told at the time that they were going to have to repute what she was saying and apparently she was delirious due to her injuries and her losses.
02:39:02.000Tell us about this gentleman who was one of the first people along with you to respond, you know, running into the building that, you know, had just been devastated.
02:39:51.000And Terry, bless his heart, right off the bat was concerned because there were so many FBI and ATF agents on the scene, even when he drove up.
02:40:05.000I mean, you drive up and there's feds and their gear running around everywhere.
02:40:21.000Why are ATF agents and FBI agents at the scene of the bombing, sitting there watching what's going on, when the first officer to respond pulls up?
02:40:48.000Yeah, they always claim that, so when it happens, oh, well, it was a sting, went bad, yeah.
02:40:53.000Well, no, quite interestingly, the morning of the bombing, as I was in route downtown,
02:41:01.000They were simulcasting a three vehicle description along with the seven Persian mills that were supposedly occupying these vehicles that they had left on the interstate systems from the Murrah building area and surprisingly we were told that these vehicles were still under surveillance and continued to progress.
02:41:44.000That went on through all the morning up until about 1.30.
02:41:47.000At that point I had an opportunity to speak to one of the FBI agents that had kind of slowed to take a break.
02:41:54.000And asked him what the status was, and was informed at that point that that was disinformation, that it was designed to throw the press off, and was nothing but disinformation.
02:42:07.000I became very irate at the time, and they were broadcasting this to a five-state area.
02:42:16.000It was not only throwing all the media off, it was throwing every cop in the world Off as well, if this was fictitious information.
02:42:24.000Well, the perps want to throw folks off.
02:42:26.000So Terence Yeagy pulls up a minute or so after, and it's crawling with FBI and ATF.
02:42:35.000Well, he goes ahead and works with the recovery.
02:42:40.000From what I understand, over the next few days after that incident, he had started to complain to Janet Reno and to others.
02:42:50.000about the treatment that he was getting from the FBI agents and also from the fact that there were so many of them on the scene, it was quite concerning to him.
02:43:00.000We talked a little bit about some of his concerns and some of my concerns, but we both were still, I'd say it still wasn't really that trustworthy even of one another.
02:43:12.000It was a time where you really didn't know who you could trust, completely or not.
02:43:19.000Sure, if you're not a completely unconscious moron, you pull up and there's, it's like watching a guy run out of a bank with a mask on and a bag of money, you know, you pull up and there's feds running around in their, in their full gear right after it happens.
02:44:35.000Craig Roberts going from memory, we do have the basic medical examiner's drawings and of course you guys have talked to some of the witnesses and some of the sheriff's department I know from the county over that did show up reportedly.
02:44:47.000And to go over this in detail, the feds are like digging dirt up.
02:44:52.000Terrence Yiggy's obviously been tortured.
02:44:54.000I mean as a police officer, go over what happened to him.
02:44:57.000Terry had numerous lacerations on his wrist, across his elbows, on both arms.
02:45:05.000He had a long cut that began just underneath his right ear and extended past his Adam's apple.
02:45:13.000There was another small hesitation cut on the left side of his throat.
02:45:20.000You think that was when they were just threatening him to slit his throat to get the answers of where the stuff was?
02:45:25.000Well, I was towed by the district attorney when I went to the grand jury that was due to EMTs trying to save Jerry's life.
02:45:33.000And of course, he'd been dead... Well, I mean, let's go over... I mean, let's talk about how he died because, I mean, he was telling his partner, I got feds behind me last time he was heard from, right?
02:45:41.000Terry was transporting documents and evidence that he had collected.
02:46:12.000And when he had handcuff marks on his wrists, there was mud packed into his wounds.
02:46:18.000There was no way he could have drug himself through the mud a mile and a half through creeks and trees while bleeding and then decided to shoot himself at an angle at the top of his head coming out the lower part of his jaw.
02:46:34.000I mean, you talk about the county shows up, and they said, yeah, the feds were covering it up, and the police all just stand around and, well, they killed him.
02:46:39.000That's, I mean, because all the police we've talked to, yeah, they killed him.
02:46:43.000And I guess that's just what, feds are God.
02:46:47.000Well that's what was interesting to me at that point was anytime we had a police officer involved in an automobile accident or anything outside of the city limits, the city still sent investigative officers out to investigate the accident if nothing else to supplement whatever agency did do the investigation.
02:47:09.000With Terry, basically our agency just washed their hands of it and turned it completely over to the FBI.
02:47:18.000Yeah, whenever a police officer dies in Oklahoma City, there's always an autopsy.
02:47:21.000A couple years ago, a police officer died in a car wreck.
02:47:23.000Um, and there was no question about why he had died.
02:47:51.000I mean, who was either purely wicked or the biggest coward on the planet?
02:47:57.000Chief Gonzalez was from the Dallas-Fort Worth area.
02:48:00.000He had been on Dallas PD prior to his being hired with Oklahoma City.
02:48:04.000He really didn't have Uh, connections to Oklahoma City, um, and would frequently leave, uh, for extended weekends to go play golf in Dallas.
02:48:14.000Um, uh, really never did feel like he was a portion of our department at all.
02:48:51.000Again, that was one of the things that kind of surprised me.
02:48:53.000The horse patrol basically through the week did not patrol any area they maybe once or twice one or two of the officers would settle up and they would go into the stockyards area.
02:49:13.000Interestingly they had anytime we did work a big event they would have the County Reserve would also come in and supplement the with horses and manpower and they would act out together.
02:49:27.000The morning of the bombing, the horse patrol was going downtown in force.
02:49:35.000They claim they really don't know why they were going down there.
02:49:37.000It wasn't necessary for crowd control.
02:49:39.000They were just going down to work the downtown area.
02:49:43.000This was about a week before what we were scheduled to have an art festival.
02:49:50.000That would mandated that they would have had to be there.
02:49:54.000They were they were coming up with some time frame where a lot of overtime was going to be required.
02:49:59.000So it's kind of surprising that they would just out of the blue decide to gather and go downtown to do this this quite large work patrol.
02:50:10.000There was probably Somewhere between 8 to 10 riders and horses that were en route.
02:50:15.000Was that order to saddle up given before the bombing?
02:50:19.000Yes sir, they were actually leaving and would have already been downtown by the time the bomb went off according to one of the supervisors.
02:50:26.000Had it not been for one of our officers, it was slow in getting ready and they were just pulling out of the K-9 decoying center when the bomb detonated.
02:50:36.000All right, when we come back, I'm going to ask you, what do the rank and file Oklahoma City police think 16, 17 years after this tragedy that's been used to butcher the Bill of Rights and Constitution?
02:50:46.000This is another super disgusting thing we have to discuss, but I mean, it's only going to get worse if we don't wake up to false flag terror.
02:50:56.000Don Browning, retired Oklahoma City police officer, one of the first on the scene as our guest, along with one of the filmmakers, Holland Vanden Neuwenhoff.
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02:54:39.000And the federal government is run by a bunch of criminals now who just think that we're here to be doormats and our property, our children, belong to them.
02:54:49.000And we can beat these people, but let me tell you, living in denial, this isn't about just criticizing the government and we come up with fanciful tales.
02:54:57.000This is a police officer who was there and saw all this, who had FBI agents threaten to kill him and his wife.
02:55:47.000You got police officers questioning and they go, we think you're in a militia, implying they were involved in it because they're asking questions.
02:55:56.000You cannot control reality by being delusional.
02:56:00.000You can't just say, oh, this couldn't be true like the awesome police chief said two weeks ago when I was talking to him privately.
02:56:05.000And I looked in his eyes and I could tell he's not stupid.
02:56:27.000I can tell our police chief's a real person.
02:56:30.000You've got to choose what side you're on.
02:56:32.000In closing, Don Browning, and people can get the film, which people have given their lives, for you to be able to know this information, nobellie.infowars.com.
02:56:53.000It's kind of a combination of both where some are literally scared to death.
02:57:02.000Terry Yakey's good buddy at one point met me shortly after Terry had died, told me that I was on the right track, please keep on pushing, Terry deserved that, but he couldn't help me.
02:57:19.000Officers, for the most part, do, or at least at this point, starting to finally come out with the feelings and emotions that they did not eat the story.
02:57:28.000They didn't battle it, but they did not eat the information that was handed out to us.
02:57:34.000Why didn't you guys just, why didn't you guys get together and circle the wagons and say, we got guns too, you want to threaten us?
02:57:40.000At the time of the circling of the wagons, I don't think we felt like there was enough of us to circle, even half of us circle.
02:57:49.000Well, there wasn't at the Alamo either, but we appreciate your incredible courage, sir.
02:57:54.000But sometimes it takes some of us getting wiped out so other people can see, and then that's when we get the victory.
02:57:59.000Well it was interesting, I'll share a comment that Steven Jones made when I was up at McVeigh's trial.
02:58:06.000Jones came to me, he had been part of the Roger Dale Stafford defense team when Roger Dale Stafford had committed the Sir Lance Dockade murders.
02:58:16.000And I had testified in that case as well.
02:58:20.000And I shook my head as I was walking up towards him, coming back to the hotel.
02:58:25.000And he stopped me and he says, you know, if only four or five Oklahoma City homicide detectives would investigate this, we'd have this solved in two or three days.
02:58:36.000And... I tell you what, sir, we're out of time, but you've been gracious enough to be on the nightly news tonight.
02:58:41.000I want to start over where we left off here.