Alex Jones breaks down the latest in the Fast and Furious case and how the government is covering up the crimes they are doing in order to cover up the cover-up. Big Brother and the mainstream media are covering up what is going on, and you want answers? Well, so does Alex.
00:00:13.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:21.000Well, we're going to have another incredibly important and jam-packed transmission lined up for you today.
00:00:39.000Big developments in the whole Fast and Furious case, and our own Patrick Henningsen, reporter for InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com is breaking.
00:00:53.000Of course, if you go back over a year ago, CBS broke that, oh, they were tracking some guns they allowed to be sold to criminals in gun shops.
00:01:01.000They did that because they knew it was already coming out in local news in Arizona and Illinois and other areas, as well as in Mexico, that the federal government, through eight agencies, was shipping guns into Mexico, into Honduras, but also into Tampa, Florida, Into Indianapolis, Indiana, and now we've learned all over the country.
00:01:25.000And running hit teams of quote, former US military.
00:01:32.000Now, I told you all this six years ago with one whistleblower, Selly Castile, who was with the DEA and then retired.
00:01:56.000We can't interview Selly because he's still in prison.
00:01:59.000A few years after exposing that, they set him up with some shotguns and said he was the illegal arms dealer himself just because he needed money and went and sold a few of his guns at the gun show legally.
00:02:15.000Now it's in these different Federal filings.
00:02:20.000It's in the federal filings in Illinois and in Texas and the El Paso Times.
00:02:25.000In fact, for when Henningsen joins us in 30 minutes, will you guys just type in El Paso Times
00:02:35.000drug cartels allowed to bring in tons of cocaine that'll come up and it came out in the federal court cases that yes they were given national security clearances and that's their defense is they're really government agents and the feds come in and say yes they did work for us it's true basically drop the charges it's the same over and over again but now we have this headline more furious U.S.
00:03:01.000soldiers trafficking arms drugs to DEA agents posing as Los Zetas.
00:03:07.000And what happens is when this stuff gets exposed, they go, oh, they're just former U.S.
00:03:13.000soldiers, and oh, we were just posing as Los Zetas in a sting because it separately came out in some court cases, so they're having to cover themselves.
00:03:23.000The drug cartels, there's six of them that are in Mexico, but three big ones.
00:03:29.000The three big ones are run by the U.S.
00:04:07.000But we did it to get information about the drug cartels.
00:04:10.000That one shipment was what, five tons?
00:04:13.000And then my little memory goes back many years to the Associated Press, when the state police found an 18-wheeler with three and a half tons of pure cocaine in it, and were ordered to give it to the FBI, and they released it.
00:04:24.000You can go on down the road now, Bubba Jack, because that's going to pay off the federal judges and everybody.
00:04:55.000The point is, why is Goldman Sachs running sex slave funds?
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00:08:13.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:08:22.000Ladies and gentlemen, The clarity of our research is really coming together, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day, week by week, month by month, year by year.
00:08:48.000Our analysis has been 100% spot on, unfortunately, on just how tyrannical this takeover is, and the fact that once the cashless society is in place, The system is going to raise taxes by design, on record, at every level, to selectively destroy families, businesses, independent corporations.
00:09:14.000And all of the mega insider Agenda 21 crooks, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, the rest of them, they are all 100% exempt from even legal and lawful laws and all the other red tape regulations and color of law that they're engaged in.
00:09:33.000Homeland Security for the TSA and Viper teams is buying massive amounts of armored mobile checkpoint bulletproof booths to be set up on highway checkpoints.
00:09:48.000The IRS is trying to get federal legislation passed.
00:09:53.000Where if you are even being questioned or audited by the IRS, you are not allowed to leave the United States.
00:10:03.000I saw, ten years ago, Homeland Security, before it even had Congressional Cabinet power, meeting And saying we're going to have highway checkpoints, we're going to have DNA databases, you're going to have to have Homeland Security approval to travel state to state, we're going to have checkpoints outside major cities and on highways, and if you haven't paid all the taxes, including local, your car is not going to start.
00:10:33.000And now all those systems are going in the cars.
00:11:02.000Now remember, this is being done by the narcotics trafficking, murdering, child molesting, child kidnapping criminals that run this country.
00:11:13.000Mitt Romney's wife had blind trust invested in Goldman Sachs sex trafficking fund.
00:11:18.000And they go, well it's okay, it's a blind trust.
00:11:22.000That's a red herring, it's not even about her.
00:11:25.000I can buy that she's in a blind trust because she's political, most of them are, and so there's not conflicts of interest and they're invested in Goldman Sachs because they're the insiders.
00:11:33.000They're the ones that always have the big profits.
00:11:54.000Ann Romney's Trust invested in Goldman Sachs fund that was involved in the sex site Backpage.com, which is connected to, in the reports, sex trafficking, sex slaves, underage, all this stuff.
00:12:42.000That's why Forbes had the headline a few months ago, why is there a war on lemonade stands?
00:12:47.000And they reported on thousands of raids in every city under federal control of little kids selling lemonade, learning about the free market.
00:12:58.000Fifteen million dollar fines for garage sales with local federal enforcers.
00:13:13.000If any of the products you're selling out of thousands of recalled items a year, if you are selling an item that was ever recalled for whatever reason, as if you know, some refrigerator, a toy, a light bulb, it's total bureaucratic hell.
00:13:30.000We've got a report that's going to air tomorrow night that they've been going out three days straight interviewing the Austinites around the tens of thousands of acres that were taken from private landowners at gunpoint.
00:13:41.000You were forced to sell for pennies on the dollar back in the late 80s and 90s.
00:13:45.000With most of the land, five years later to ten years later, they flip it and give it to select insiders for pennies on the dollar to build hotels, salons, golf courses, luxury home developments.
00:13:56.000They just didn't want to pay for the land, so they just said, eminent domain for the earth, five, ten cents on the dollar max.
00:15:10.000And the newspaper, the Austin American-Statesman said, even worse, breathlessly, people have walked humans into the preserve.
00:15:23.000And when it grew into people's backyards, because the government took an easement of their backyards, the cedar trees that grow like weeds, they're from Europe, They push out the oak and everything, invasive species.
00:15:51.000In fact, guys, show folks, just type in Dr. Michael Kauffman UN Maps, Kauffman with a C, show PrisonPlanet.tv viewers the UN Maps that were shown to Congress in 94, where half the U.S.
00:16:06.000Compact cities, checkpoints outside the cities, The real plan in the UN Biological Diversity Assessments, I showed the original documents, they've now expunged everywhere but the library, in Road to Tyranny.
00:16:20.000I show the text outlined from the University of Texas Law Library, UN Biological Diversity Assessment, 1996, in my 2001 film, actually came out in early 2002, Road to Tyranny.
00:16:34.000And they say you'll be in compact lockdown cities, small rural communities.
00:16:39.000I'll be outside those kept us at subsistence level.
00:16:41.000You'll be arrested if you try to hunt any animals to eat.
00:16:45.000There will be gladiatorial games and public human sacrifice to unify the population around a new global green religion.
00:16:53.000Hunger games is what they're planning.
00:16:58.000You saw The Running Man, where they arrest people if they're out after the curfew, and the secret police have face-scanning cameras and fake TV newscasts, and big jumbotrons in the cities with the head of Homeland Security, the head of National Security, saying, watch your neighbors, turn your parents in, it's cool, it's trendy.
00:17:16.000And that was, that's a Stephen King book he wrote in like 1980 that came out, what, in 84, 85, with Schwarzenegger.
00:17:23.000You see, it's all predictive programming.
00:17:31.000I happen to know via Shooter Jennings that, again, they take people's writings that understand where we're going, and then they decide to push it, not because the system's against it, but they want to acclimate you.
00:17:45.000I know that Stephen King, through Shooter Jennings, is aware of the New World Order, doesn't like what's going on, but again, they still take his book, Turn it into a movie.
00:17:55.000It's probably the same thing with the lady that wrote Hunger Games.
00:18:21.000Bill would suspend passport rights for delinquent taxpayers.
00:18:25.000Folks, you have a right as a citizen to come and go out of the country.
00:18:30.000But now, a collection agency for the Foreign Private Federal Reserve established in 1913.
00:18:35.000The bankers are saying, and we've always, what Ron Paul said, they selectively enforce, they let the illegals in.
00:18:41.000These borders and fences and walls and checkpoints a hundred miles in are not, and they're called national security zones, are not for the illegals.
00:18:51.000They have always planned, and I've told you hundreds of times, you're not going to be allowed to even go through that zone.
00:18:57.000And they're announcing they're going to build them on the other side of the highway now.
00:19:02.000And they've said, you're going to go in to buy.
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00:24:51.000I told you the entire time this is about internal checkpoints and stopping people who haven't paid their taxes and who can't pay their taxes from traveling.
00:25:02.000And in the future they want to destroy the underground economy.
00:25:05.000The bankers hate it that more than 50 million people conservatively, according to government's own numbers, don't pay the income tax to the private fellow reserve.
00:25:15.000And so they're attacking the Amish, they're attacking the farmers and ranchers, they're attacking these farmers markets, these swap meets, because it's the underground economy.
00:25:27.000And if they can't make you go to a big box store, buying from China that further de-industrializes us, and was designed to shut down our economy on record, and if they can't cut off our power with the carbon taxes, They're not going to be able to take over.
00:25:42.000So they're going to make it illegal to cut down your own trees, to use them as firewood, as a wood-burning stove.
00:26:11.000They own the big megacorporations that send out all these Trojan horse systems as they massively expand the federal jackboot force and hire a bunch of people that think it's really cool to stomp on the Bill of Rights and Constitution.
00:26:26.000And as they use America's money and ingenuity and energy to launch wars against innocent countries, using Al-Qaeda now in six different countries to try to overthrow the government.
00:26:35.000And then say, give your rights up because Al-Qaeda wants to attack.
00:26:43.000The magnitude of this article, CBS News, a bill authored by a Southland lawmaker could potentially allow the federal government to prevent any American who owes back taxes from traveling outside the U.S.
00:26:59.000Again, this should be internal checkpoints.
00:27:03.000To control population through cashless society, beyond Orwell.
00:27:07.000Internal checkpoints to arrest, because that's what's going to happen.
00:27:13.000I told you this was coming for over a decade.
00:27:17.000A bill authored by South lawmakers that could potentially allow the federal government, that means the Goldman Sachs government, to prevent any Americans who owe back taxes from traveling outside the U.S.
00:27:30.000And again, they'll just keep raising the taxes and taxes and taxes, and they say they're going to add in local, state taxes, all of them to this.
00:27:37.000Senate Bill 1813 was introduced back in November by Senator Barbara Boxer.
00:27:43.000Again, so anti-American, she's for total gun bans.
00:27:48.000Of course, she supports giving your kids inoculations without your consent.
00:27:53.000Again, Senate Bill 1813 was introduced back in November by Senator Barbara Boxer.
00:28:00.000To reauthorize federal-aid highway and highway safety construction programs for other purposes.
00:28:08.000The clearing of the Senate of 74-22 vote on March 14th, SB 1813 is now headed for a vote in the House of Representatives where it's expected to encounter stiffer opposition amongst the GOP majority.
00:28:22.000In addition to authorizing appropriations for federal transportation infrastructure programs, the Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century, Agenda 21 Act, or MAP 21, Boy, they really throw it in our face, don't they?
00:28:58.000Section 40304 of the legislation states that any individual who owes more than $50,000 to the Internal Revenue Service may be subject to an action.
00:29:07.000Of course, once it's through, they'll amend it down to $5.
00:29:11.000Action with respect to denial, revocation, or limitation of passport.
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00:33:53.000I mean, and we're just allowing a few thousand top globalists, in their own words, that's all there is, Rothkopf has written about that, to do this.
00:34:03.000To set up a nightmare system to stage terror attacks, to pose as our saviors, to publicly run Al-Qaeda on top of it all in front of us, but say give our rights up because Al-Qaeda will get you.
00:34:16.000And hire a bunch of low-grade morons at every level of the bureaucracy who will trample everyone's rights, including their own.
00:34:28.000This is so scary by Paul Watson, and he has links to the press release by the Homeland Security Department.
00:34:36.000After huge ammo buy, Department of Homeland Security purchases bullet-resistant booths.
00:34:43.000Federal agency preparing to unveil more checkpoints and they've announced that they have tripled the funding for the Viper teams to be on highways and are training local police to man the mobile armored checkpoints.
00:35:00.000And what happens is you pull up and under the Transportation Department They have people there, and they come over with their drug dogs, their bomb dogs, bug their eyes out at you, act like, you know, they're on the front lines of Afghanistan.
00:35:17.000And yes, they're starting, I have video on newscast, groping people on the side of the road, and at bus stations and train stations, from Texas to Florida, from California to Michigan.
00:36:16.000And it's come out that there's bounties on what type of kids they want.
00:36:19.000And the state senator in Georgia announced he was going to release how they had a bounty on kids and got her head blown off over the weekend before she could make the announcement.
00:39:30.000George Orwell, real name Eric Blair, who worked as an imperial policeman in India from a wealthy elitist family, Then, got disillusioned and went to work for the Communists, fighting Hitler, pre-World War II and the Spanish Civil War, and found out they were just as bad, and actually working with other corrupt elements.
00:39:55.000Then he went and became homeless to experience that for a few years, and then he wrote 1984.
00:40:02.000And he's himself, because he was a propagandist in World War II at BBC.
00:40:33.000And in the film, the government, he finds out, has a deal with the other government, he thinks it's probably the same government, to rocket attack each other, because then the government can take the public's liberties, and he figures out they blow up their own buildings to claim it's terrorist, so they have an excuse to arrest people.
00:40:52.000And he finds out it's a war against humanity.
00:40:55.000And they have gladiatorial games as well, and everybody's obsessed with the lottery mega millions.
00:42:00.000soldiers trafficked arms, drugs, and DEA agents posing as Las Zetas.
00:42:03.000What did I tell you six years ago with our sources?
00:42:06.000There was going to be a massive, or seven years ago now, a massive implosion in Mexico as they knocked out the other small cartels that aren't controlled by JPMorgan, Goldman Sachs, Wells Fargo, Wachovia, which by the way, it's come out now hundreds of billions laundered by Wells Fargo, didn't get in trouble, Bloomberg, AP Reuters, again.
00:42:56.000Army, then some Marines, then some Navy SEALs.
00:42:58.000They busted Navy SEALs trying to ship hand grenades, rocket launchers, and weapons out of Phoenix down there.
00:43:05.000Turned out they were working for the government.
00:43:07.000There's a covert war, and that's a message to you.
00:43:10.000If you work for the US government, which means Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and you're caught, they're just going to say you're a drug dealer.
00:43:20.000When they bust Los Zetas, when they bust Sinaloa, shipping in tons of cocaine, they always say, well, here's my national security letter, I work, here's their names.
00:43:28.000And Homeland Security comes in and says, it's true, national security on the trial.
00:43:32.000And they say, that's inadmissible, you're still going to prison.
00:43:36.000They're like, once you hit prison, we're gonna have you shanked to death, okay?
00:43:41.000But I worked for you, I did everything.
00:43:42.000And they're like, hey, no honor among thieves.
00:43:45.000Just like the people that got caught torturing?
00:43:48.000Bush had them sent to prison, even though he'd ordered the torturing in the memos, then he wrote a book admitting he ordered the torture!
00:43:55.000I'm gonna order the torture, and if you happen to get caught doing it, raping little kids like they had them doing, that's in the handbooks now, that's what Land of the Free and the Brave does, run by Goldman Sachs, is rape children with battery acid.
00:45:12.000Whatever you got to do to get the word out and shake people out of the trance, I am ordering the info warriors.
00:45:17.000If you care about your family and your life, you better launch operations peacefully in total resistance to the New World Order now!
00:45:27.000We got John Perkins' Confessions of an Economic Hitman coming up in the third hour right now as Patrick Henningsen joining us for this big breaking news with links to the federal court rulings and even little blurbs in mainstream media.
00:45:37.000Patrick Henningsen, incredible information, we already knew it, but here it is in plain view as we learn the government's arming the drug gangs domestically, you got military hit teams everywhere, mass slaughter, sex trafficking, just pure evil 110%.
00:47:57.000It's not Mexico, it's not Jamaica, it's Afghanistan.
00:48:02.000So... And of course it wasn't until the liberation happened and it was only 10% of opium, now it's 92% or more of the opium and the troops admit they grow it.
00:48:14.000Yeah, and you know, you've got some big air force, military air force and army and marine bases dotted all over the country.
00:48:23.000We all know from Vietnam that the longer we stayed in there, in Vietnam for between 10 and 12 years, and that allowed people to make links, to form relationships, For certain cadres within the military to arrange their own kind of entrepreneurial activities, okay?
00:48:44.000That's not out of the realms of possibility in this particular situation.
00:48:47.000Did this 500 pounds of pot come from Mexico?
00:48:52.000Or did it come from Arizona to, say, Fort Bliss, or a place like this?
00:48:58.000But I've laid this all out, Alex, because I think, hopefully, someone else is going to come along and put the dots together.
00:49:04.000I'm limited in what I can find out, as far as... This is exactly the intel we get from these other federal cases, where they let Los Zetas and Sinaloa ship cocaine in, quote, for information.
00:49:18.000I mean, I did an article a couple years ago which was called Rendition, where the war on drugs meets the war on terror.
00:49:27.000And that was really centered around that whole story of the CIA Rendition flight was a Gulfstream jet which crashed in Mexico and had something like three tons of pure Colombian uncut cocaine on board.
00:49:43.000Yeah, and so they matched the tail numbers from this Gulfstream jet with the private air contractor to rendition flights that were going everywhere on the planet.
00:49:56.000We're talking about black sites in Eastern Europe, refueling in England and Ireland.
00:50:02.000The government aircraft just land everywhere with the cocaine, heroin, little kids, and it all comes out.
00:50:07.000Just type in UN child sex trafficking, because sometimes there are good people that blow the whistle when there's huge C-130s with toddlers being loaded on, and there's always somebody who freaks out.
00:50:19.000So, I mean, it's just absolute pure evil.
00:50:22.000That's what the War on Terror was in the early stages of the War on Terror, where they were rendering... The media made a big deal and the liberal kind of outcry was, oh, they're taking all these terrorists and putting black sacks over their heads and ferrying them around the world.
00:50:41.000But it wasn't the terrorists that they were ferrying around.
00:50:44.000They were just goat herders and taxi drivers.
00:50:46.000There were drugs, kids, and God knows what on board any of those...
00:50:50.000See there, the guy that wrote Jawbreaker, I had the CIA section chief on, he admitted they would only grab innocent people.
00:50:57.000And literally, it was just a prop to ship the drugs.
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00:57:24.000They were due to be redeployed to Afghanistan in February, and Kevin Corley, who is the One of the leaders of this gang was discharged from Fort Carson, which is where the 4th Brigade is stationed.
00:57:42.000Now, there's no details as to why he was discharged.
00:57:45.000There's also another question which looms here is that when you lose a 500-pound consignment of narcotics and you just hand it over to the DEA and they let you drive along while they take the truck.
00:58:00.000And then he's gone back to the guys who were posing as...
00:58:04.000is Los Ades, these undercover DEA agents, to do more business soon after that.
00:58:10.000So it's almost like there was no big deal.
00:58:14.000So it makes you wonder, is there an endless supply of drugs here?
00:58:18.000Well, that's what happens when one hand doesn't know what the other hand is happening.
00:58:22.000But they were able to give the code words, so they let him go.
00:58:24.000And again, the feds are saying these guys were involved in wet work, murder for hire services, narcotics trafficking, and stolen U.S. marijuana.
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01:01:27.000I think we can only guess at this point, but I'm telling you, this is a very bizarre operation, to say the least.
01:01:34.000So, I predict there's going to be a lot of stuff that's going to be unearthed over the next few weeks or the next few months about this thing.
01:01:42.000But, you know, the bigger picture here, Alex, is that, you know, the mainstream media and our politicians in Washington have really made such a meal out of The whole thing of talking about the economy in terms of the stock market and in terms of, you know, derivatives and this and that.
01:02:05.000The real liquidity, Alex, and this is Catherine Austin Fitz, who's on your show many times, she pointed this out.
01:02:12.000The real liquidity, the real cash that propped up the banking sector in terms of Citibank, for one, is black market cash.
01:02:22.000And this is, uh, they're always underestimating the size of the black market, playing it down, you know, and you don't hear about it very much in the news, the real statistics.
01:02:31.000Because you can't calculate the size of the black market because it's not audited, okay?
01:02:37.000But this black market is one of the most important aspects of how the kind of You know, the slimy elements of the globalist cabal do their business.
01:02:49.000That's right, they control it and instead of cracking down on their narcotics and child kidnapping, they're going to go after the Amish and people selling pecans.
01:02:59.000If you look at it, if you look at the global economy in terms of, let's call it a pyramid, okay?
01:03:06.000The military-industrial complex and the big Fortune 500 corporations, they'll form the base of this pyramid, okay?
01:03:13.000Then, you know, the amount of money on paper is much bigger than the black market.
01:03:20.000But at the top of this pyramid, Is a little black capstone, okay?
01:03:25.000This is the black market, and I contend that whoever controls the black capstone of this economic pyramid can control the whole pyramid.
01:03:34.000I agree because that money is worth a hundred times because it is black, it is secret, and it's what's used to bribe people and then blackmail them with the black money.
01:03:47.000The black market is really, is the WD-40 Greece that turns the wheels of power with the shadow government and also, you know, any kind of nefarious organizations the world over.
01:04:02.000This is the Greece that turns the machine.
01:04:04.000Without this, you cannot pay off judges, you cannot buy silence, you cannot buy loyalty.
01:04:12.000It's over overnight, it'll rise up like a cold sore, and that's why top drug dealers are on record saying, I love the drug war, never get rid of it.
01:04:21.000Yeah, in terms of drugs, child prostitution, human trafficking, vice activity, you have all kinds of vested interests around the world.
01:04:33.000That's why Ron Paul is so dangerous to the establishment.
01:04:36.000One of the reasons is he wants to legalize drugs.
01:04:40.000And again, that takes all the criminal element and the money out, and now poor drug heads will be, you know, doing it at home under supervision instead of robbing you to go buy the overpriced drugs so the big bankers get that money.
01:04:54.000And they also put them in the private prisons owned by the drug dealers.
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01:08:02.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
01:08:08.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:08:12.000We're talking about the phony drug war with investigative journalist from Infowars.com, Patrick Henningsen.
01:08:26.000We're working on getting Lord Monckton on dealing with the environmental power grabs going on by the green cultists who are trying to seize power and are trying to censor our videos and others.
01:08:37.000Really incredible developments on that front.
01:08:40.000But here's an article out of the Huffington Post.
01:08:42.000Lawmakers in five states tell feds to back off medical marijuana.
01:08:46.000Remember Obama promised that he was going to follow the Tenth Amendment for states' rights, and that he was going to back off medical marijuana that was prescribed by doctors, which they admit, of all the plants out there that you can get drugs from that help people, there's nothing like marijuana.
01:09:15.000Lawmakers in five states tell feds to back off medical marijuana.
01:09:19.000The point is, when you make this stuff illegal, it drives up the price, it allows government behind the scenes to selectively enforce, it corrupts the police, just like alcohol prohibition did for the decade or nine and a half years that they had it in place.
01:09:34.000And when that ended, they made drugs illegal.
01:09:36.000You could buy cocaine, heroin at the corner drugstore.
01:09:39.000And much smaller numbers of people used it or took it.
01:09:43.000You can buy six packs of Coca-Cola that, you know, had massive amounts of cocaine in it.
01:09:53.000They've done this to take over our society, and Patrick Henningsen was talking about the black capstone over the larger economy of the black market controlled by the big megabanks who launder the money.
01:10:03.000So when they come in with this cashless society, They're gonna use it to crack down on the Amish and people selling peaches on the side of the road and lemonade stands and Girl Scout cookies as they've now done.
01:11:54.000I mean, many a constitutional law scholar had their jaws hanging around their ankles after a president who claims to have taught constitutional law would make such a statement.
01:12:05.000But we've become used to this after four years of this president.
01:12:09.000Yeah, he told Congress, take a hike on the war!
01:12:13.000Just like we became used to George W. Bush's shredding of the Constitution with his gang of neoconservatives over eight years.
01:12:22.000The federal government clearly, the amount of money they spend on things like Fast and Furious that end up killing people, the amount of waste.
01:12:33.000Another solar company was just gone bankrupt.
01:12:36.000It took a $2.1 billion guaranteed federal loan only a few days ago, another green project.
01:12:42.000They're just wasting money left, right and center.
01:12:45.000And meanwhile, they will come at gunpoint to collect $100 worth of overdue federal income tax.
01:12:52.000So I think the federal government has kind of grown out of control.
01:12:55.000And this country is at a major crossroads right now.
01:12:59.000If we don't do something as people or as states, exert their states' rights, for instance, we're going to slide into tyranny.
01:13:19.000Some of the things you mentioned earlier in the show about withholding passport privileges, that's crazy.
01:13:26.000I mean, the Soviet Union would do such things.
01:13:30.000Red China wouldn't even attempt such a thing.
01:13:33.000You know, why is the United States pushing so hard and so fast?
01:13:37.000And by the way, it's passed the Senate, it's going to the House, and it's CBS News, and they're now saying internal checkpoints, you won't be able to travel or have a job if you're not in good standing.
01:14:22.000It really became apparent when I spent a lot of time outside of the United States, as well as living and growing up here.
01:14:28.000When I came back a couple months ago, just before I came to see you in Austin, you start turning on the TV and I didn't realize the overwhelming onslaught.
01:14:39.000It's like a full court press when you turn on the television.
01:14:42.000And to hear this president talking on a daily basis, I really felt kind of oppressed in the fact that I'm looking around and saying, why isn't anybody upset about this?
01:14:56.000I was watching The Expendables this morning on the treadmill, a cheesy action-adventure film that Stallone produced, because I found that's the best thing to watch when I'm jogging.
01:15:10.000Normally I wouldn't watch mine with stuff like that, but it's actually good when I'm jogging.
01:15:12.000Jog harder, longer, faster, kind of get into it.
01:15:15.000But I was watching a supposed third world country with oppression, and it was America!
01:15:21.000It was everything they're starting here, and they were describing a horrible police state in Latin America, and that's where I live!
01:15:29.000And all we have left is the old free speech and the Second Amendment, and now they say they're coming after that, and Obama, through MSNBC, is openly trying to cause a race war, editing tapes of the Zimmerman guy to make it sound like he's racist.
01:15:44.000I mean, it's just, even though we know it, Patrick, it's still amazing that these are real criminals.
01:15:51.000I mean, we have real criminals in charge now.
01:15:55.000I mean, I stood there watching the press conference on the White House launch two days ago with President Obama, President Calderón in Mexico, and Stephen Harper from Canada.
01:16:07.000And I listened to President Calderón lecture the American people on the fact that it's because of our guns that are going over the border that are killing people on the border towns along Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona.
01:16:23.000Somehow ignoring the whole fact that 30,000 guns were shipped down in Operation Fast and Furious, which was directed by the Department of Justice.
01:16:39.000Not gun manufacturers and gun dealers who are doing legitimate business in America.
01:16:44.000But the flip of it, right in your face, with Obama standing next to him.
01:16:49.000And probably Eric Holder in the back behind the door, smiling.
01:16:54.000Conceive the hypocrisy, the level of it is unbelievable.
01:16:58.000Well no, exactly, and we said this would happen.
01:17:01.000When Judicial Watch sued and got the SPP documents, they just got new documents where it confirms what police were already saying, they just released the illegals and give them a waiver form.
01:17:13.000Again, the government selectively enforces, but getting back to this, They said in the SPP documents that from 2006, Judicial Watch sued and got in 2007, that are so important it said we're going to use border security crises to merge the three countries, we're going to use the flu and economic collapse, and they go on to say we've got to keep this secret from the public, and it's corporate chiefs there giving all the leaders of the countries orders
01:17:39.000Here's the corporate government, thousands of pages I scanned over, I put the most powerful ones in my film, Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement, and then here they are, three years ago, before Fast and Furious even broke, I said, they're shipping guns to Mexico, under programs, some of it had already leaked, to blame the Second Amendment later, and then even when they get caught doing it, they still go ahead with it, and here's the head of a narco-terrorist state lecturing the American people on our Second Amendment right!
01:18:11.000I mean, this is incredible what we've been brought to!
01:18:15.000And the other thing is, people should not be naive, okay?
01:18:19.000When you have a military industrial complex in this country that's grown to such proportions, because we're deploying troops all over the world in the thousands daily, okay?
01:18:31.000And throughout history, whenever a military or police state grows to a certain size, it itself, within the military, will become very corrupt.
01:18:38.000I used to have a friend from Uganda who was part of the Ugandan army under Idi Amin.
01:18:45.000He was a dishwasher in London, worked in a restaurant when I first moved there to study.
01:18:52.000And he told me stories of that he would, for cash, him and his buddies in his unit would take arms out of the stockade, which was the government military stockade, and they would sell arms to the Lord's Resistance Army.
01:19:43.000Patrick Henningsen, I want to come back and play a clip of Geraldo Rivera going, well, they do it to fight Al-Qaeda, they grow the opium, and the troops are like, yeah, we don't like it, but it's what we gotta do.
01:19:54.000Again, they have to hide it in plain view now.
01:19:56.000Hey, if you're patriotic, grow some schmack!
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01:26:04.000Now the Marines and their success are, in a sense, a victim of their success because now the population is, you know, they have these opium fields, and we are tolerating it.
01:26:14.000We are tolerating the cultivation of the opium.
01:26:17.00010% of world supply pre-2001, now 92% or higher.
01:26:44.000The opium, because we know that if we were to destroy it now, the population would turn against the Marines and it would be a real security risk.
01:26:52.000Let me introduce Lieutenant Colonel Brian Christmas.
01:26:54.000He's the commanding officer of the 3rd Battalion, 6th Marines.
01:26:57.000Really a wonderful group of Marines here.
01:27:00.000I know that you care deeply about this contradiction, the fact that here you have one of the best fighting forces in the world ever mounted.
01:27:08.000And in a sense, you're watching as this opium. - You're there for the opium. - It grinds at your gut.
01:28:06.000They make it illegal to drive the price up.
01:28:08.000So your daughters sell themselves, people rob you for the money, so the banks can get bigger profits.
01:28:13.000Then they get the zombies that use it, throw them in the jails, the prisons working to build widgets to drive down our wages on the outside.
01:28:24.000Closing comments on this, Patrick Henningsen.
01:28:27.000Yeah, the important thing is if Americans can take anything from this information and just switch a little light on in their head.
01:28:34.000And frankly, I don't know how Geraldo Rivera earns 5 million a year or 10 million a year to have absolutely zero brain activity going on.
01:28:45.000But when the Taliban got their award from the United Nations in 2004, they did a fatwa on opium, okay?
01:28:54.000And this idea of the Taliban uses the opium to fund their insurgency is just a little bit of propaganda that's been seeded like a meme into the minds of the West by people like Tony Blair and so forth.
01:29:08.000And the fact that just look at the 700 tons before 2001 exported and now 8000 tons by the latest calculation, which was done in 2009.
01:29:19.000You're talking about, you know, a thousand percent increase or something like this.
01:29:24.000And that's just what we have on record, okay?
01:29:27.000But the Marines have got to grow it for America and take the cancer virus shots because they support America.
01:29:33.000And if you support America, you grow the opium.
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01:32:56.000Well, YouTube is now banning videos YouTube is now banning videos critical of global warming alarmism.
01:33:20.000And some people would say, well, you know, they're their own private website, and so, you know, that's their right.
01:33:28.000Well, if they were a video website about fishing, or hunting, or skateboarding, and they said our terms of use are, you can post videos about hunting or skateboarding, that would be an issue.
01:33:40.000Something Google bought six years ago that was about the communities and free speech and about not being evil.
01:33:47.000And YouTube, run by Google with all its Obama administration connections, connections to the intelligence community, over the weekend dimmed the screens to black for Earth Hour.
01:33:59.000At first it was voluntary and you had a switch and then later it just froze to black for a while where you didn't have the choice.
01:34:09.000And we have about eight different channels that are our official channels.
01:34:14.000Altogether, I've done an analysis, it's about 600 plus million views the last three years on there.
01:34:21.000We've got XM channel 166, we've got over 100 AM and FM affiliates, we're number one in the audio streams at Shoutcast, not just for talk radio, but period.
01:34:32.000We've just been on Roku for about five, six months.
01:34:36.000Wherever we're able to compete, we win, win, win, win.
01:34:42.000Because in the market of ideas, the truth and liberty and freedom trumps a bunch of sniveling control freaks who sit up on their mountain and always tell us what reality is and lecture us.
01:34:56.000Now, I occasionally do some satire, and I just did a joking piece as I introduced Mark Moreno of Climate Depot, pointing out that she says that we're all mentally ill, this professor, if we believe in natural changes in the Earth and that it's not man-made.
01:36:45.000I cannot now make fun of public figures.
01:36:47.000So when I sue them, when I sue Google and the rest of them, it's going to be for discrimination and violations of terms of service, unfair trade practices, also false advertising.
01:36:58.000Because I go and give them, I mean, they make a ton of money off the ads there that they place on my videos, even though I don't take ads on there.
01:37:42.000I give them number one content, follow their terms of service, and they defraud me and go along with somebody saying I'm a racist and I'm a hater because I make fun of these people.
01:37:57.000And now they're looking at shutting one of our whole channels down and then in the past when they've done that, they've shut down the other channels until I go and file against them and defeat it.
01:38:04.000The point is, is that I don't relish suing this behemoth.
01:38:09.000And I know they don't care, they've got government backing.
01:38:11.000But the point is, we've got to stand for the First Amendment or no one is going to have free speech as this iron curtain of tyranny descends.
01:38:17.000Now Lord Monckton will be with us 30 minutes into the next hour joining us on video Skype, but I hadn't talked about this yet today and I wanted to discuss it now.
01:38:25.000What's going on with this Professor Carrie Nogard, and I have just, you know, had enough of this, this Assistant Professor of Sociology and Environmental Studies, because it's not just her saying we're mentally ill or racist.
01:38:39.000It's all of them, and we have a big article on this at InfoWars.com, you know, the threat of green fascism is the title, where they say arrest us.
01:38:47.000Where they say, uh, shut us down, ban our speech, White House regulations are.
01:39:19.000And then we can't Do this, and now the university is saying she never said that even though it's in her paper that she says we need to be treated and that's a standard thing with them that we're criminals or we're mentally ill.
01:39:32.000And I know Lord Moncton can chronicle their examples of this.
01:40:26.000If I can just review what the climate has been doing over the last few years.
01:40:32.000We've just had, literally two days ago, figures from the Hadley Centre and the The Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia.
01:40:45.000These people have now admitted that there's been no statistically significant global warming for 15 years.
01:40:52.000Likewise, the most accurate sea level satellite that we have had up there for a few years is the Aviso Envisat satellite.
01:41:00.000That shows sea level over the last eight years since that satellite first went up, rising at a rate of Equivalent to 1.3 inches per century.
01:41:11.000The Florida State University's index of the activity of hurricanes, tropical cyclones and typhoons around the world, that shows the lowest level of hurricane activity in 30 years, since the satellites were first watching.
01:41:26.000The sea ice extent just today, is greater for this time of year than it has been at almost any time since the 1979 when again the satellites were first able to watch and the spring has come a month late up there.
01:41:45.000That's why we've had it warm down here.
01:41:47.000So, all their big storylines about how terrible it's all going to be are falling apart.
01:41:54.000Polar bears, another one, just today, an important report out showing that the population of polar bears continues to grow as it has since the 1940s.
01:42:03.000This is not the profile of a species in imminent threat of extinction.
01:42:06.000Well, they're actually a scourge, as you know, invading green areas and attacking people and invading their homes.
01:42:13.000They're now becoming very aggressive and intrusive because there are so many of them and they can't get enough food in these very, very cold conditions, unusually cold conditions, in the Arctic.
01:42:24.000So they increasingly invade the human settlements in Greenland and Canada.
01:42:31.000are the actual realities of the climate.
01:42:33.000And it is quite clear that what they predicted would happen isn't happening.
01:42:39.000And in fact, if we look back on this now, Alex, you and I have been at this for some time, but the UN's climate panel, the IPCC, produced its first report in 1990, and that, of course, is a generation ago.
01:42:53.000So shall we have a look at how their prediction of global temperature has got on?
01:42:58.000They gave a high-end, a medium-end, and a low-end prediction.
01:43:03.000And yes, there has been warming since 1990, but not very much.
01:43:38.000So what they want to do is they know they can get grants and attention and grow their little bureaucratic empires and academic empires by pretending there's a problem.
01:43:48.000It doesn't matter which direction the problem they pretend is, as long as they can all agree on telling the same story.
01:43:53.000Well, first of all, they tried to tell the story of global cooling, whereupon global warming began.
01:44:01.000And they can't change gear, they can't go back to global cooling or everybody will laugh at them.
01:44:06.000They can't pretend that global warming is happening because for 15 years, on their own figures, on the figures of the cheerleaders for this whole scare, it isn't happening.
01:44:15.000And so now they're increasingly forced back onto these rather desperate expedients, one of which, we'll come on to Norgard in just a moment, I want to do one more before that.
01:44:24.000I came across this when I was addressing the Law Society of Ireland in Galway a few weeks ago.
01:44:28.000They produced a graph, you'll see it on the left-wing websites too, showing there have been many periods over the last 150 years since we kept global temperature records, when there's been 10 or 15 years without any global warming, like the last 10 or 15 years.
01:44:42.000Now, of course, what they don't realise when they show that that is the case, is that that, the fact, Exercise is a very great constraint on the rate at which warming is occurring, or could occur.
01:44:55.000So yes, we are getting a little warming.
01:44:57.000You'd expect to see a little warming over the long term, if you add lots of CO2 to the atmosphere.
01:45:03.000But the point is, it's not going to be very much, it's not going to be alarming, and even if it was, As I said to the California State Legislature just a week ago, it's, in their case, it's about 30 times cheaper
01:45:21.000to sit back, go surfing and enjoy the sunshine and adapt to the adverse consequences of any warming than it is to follow policies like California's Bill AB32 and build all those windmills in the Altamont Pass to kill all the golden eagles and hawks and kites that they're killing by the thousand every year.
01:45:44.000These are environmentally damaging projects, but the fact is it's vastly cheaper Even if the warming was going to be as bad as they say it is, to do nothing.
01:45:53.000And that brings me on to Professor Norgard.
01:45:56.000And I'm sorry that I, too, have kind of come crabwise around the subject, because I wanted to put what she is saying into context.
01:46:03.000What you have just heard from me, Alex, is not something insane.
01:46:08.000I have merely cited data and fact, after data, after fact, and graphs and charts and equations and figures, all of which you can verify, you can check, I'm not making them up.
01:46:22.000So why, in any rational world where free speech was allowed, would I not be allowed to tell the truth?
01:46:30.000And would I instead be accused of being some kind of a nutter?
01:46:33.000And this, after all, and let's be very blunt about this, this is what they used to do in Nazi Germany and in Stalin's Russia.
01:46:41.000If they didn't like your point of view, then what they did was they said, right, we're going to send you away to the Gulag to be re-educated.
01:46:49.000Because you are suffering from a mental illness, the mental illness of not agreeing with the totalitarian dictatorship.
01:46:56.000And let me just add, it's not just her.
01:46:59.000I mean, there are so many of them, when I went back and looked last night, who say, re-educate, arrest, re-educate, arrest, drug, that she's just going along with what is standard when she says, treat us.
01:47:13.000I mean, they're calling for an authoritarianism.
01:47:15.000Al Gore is saying they've got to force it on us now.
01:47:24.000They are terrified now that because the facts, the actual unfolding climate is not happening as they and those whom they have been quoting said it would.
01:47:34.000They are now terrified, and so they're trying to do what is always done by the left in these circumstances, to shout down any opposition with threats of arrest and international climate courts.
01:47:48.000If you go back to the Durban Climate Conference just last December, the UN's conference there, the members of all the world's nations were there.
01:47:56.000The only person who revealed That in that major negotiating document was a proposal to establish an international climate court to which only Western people could be brought in front of.
01:48:28.000And he had lost his temper because he'd been listening to me talking with my mates.
01:48:31.000I wasn't even talking to him about the climate for three hours because so badly organized was it, we were left standing in this bitter sub-zero cold.
01:48:40.000But he showed you how to, again, shut him up!
01:49:24.000But they don't have a right of initiation that says, formerly you were not a global warming believer and now you are.
01:49:31.000So they don't realize that they've got religion.
01:49:34.000They actually think that they're being rational in demanding, as Norgard is said to have done in that press release issued by her own University of Oregon, That not only society as a whole, but individuals should be treated because of their views on global warming.
01:49:53.000The word treated was there, I know, because I went and checked.
01:49:57.000I wrote to Professor... No, no, we have the copy, but I mean, they have TV ads for kids where they blow children up and kill them.
01:50:16.000Carrie Norgard, assistant professor, and it goes on, she says, listen to your science advisor.
01:50:21.000She wrote this, fortunately you have made an excellent choice in commissioning Harvard physicist and Nobel Peace Prize recipient John Holdren as your science advisor.
01:50:32.000So here she is in a letter to Obama that's public.
01:50:36.000Of course, he's not a Peace Prize winner.
01:50:38.000He's not a Nobel Prize winner, period.
01:50:40.000Of course, he is for drugging the water supply to sterilize us.
01:50:43.000And she goes on to say, don't wait for public consensus on climate change.
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01:55:28.000This is even bigger than saying, treat us.
01:55:31.000What do you make of this latest outrage?
01:55:33.000It is indeed an outrage, and I think, Alex, the fact that you have been taken off YouTube ...is also an outrage, and the fact that they've been taking me off YouTube slowly for many years by various devices.
01:55:47.000And it is quite clear that what we are dealing with now is a very rapid march towards the sort of totalitarianism that Hitler practiced in Germany, and that Stalin practiced in Russia, and that Mao practiced in China, and that Pol Pot practiced in Cambodia.
01:56:05.000What we're now getting, and Ho Chi Minh in Vietnam while I think of it, what we're now getting is the same things happening here, it's the same political forces, the people who think that they know best.
01:56:15.000Let's just examine that letter by Norgard that you're referring to.
01:56:19.000The first thing is, does she have any more qualifications than you or I, Alex, to write and say that climate change is a uniquely dangerous thing that people are incapable of understanding for themselves?
01:56:55.000That, I think, is fair comment, and I think also it's fair comment that if she has absolutely no knowledge of the science behind this, she might at least have tried to study it a bit before coming out with these pronouncements.
01:57:09.000You see, Alex, when I first began looking at this, I went and talked to the scientists on both sides.
01:57:15.000I wanted to hear what the science really said.
01:57:17.000I wanted to understand the economics for myself.
01:57:20.000I sweated the numbers for myself before I started shooting my mouth off on this.
01:57:25.000It took me six months before I said anything.
01:57:27.000So did I. I spent years before I even ventured.
01:57:31.000Now she clearly hasn't got the faintest clue.
01:57:36.000I imagine what letter she should now be writing.
01:57:38.000She should be writing saying, Dear President Obama, there are many problems you have to deal with, not the least of which is a massive and very rapidly growing public debt.
01:57:49.000So the first thing is the government shouldn't be spending money on climate change, given that there isn't any at the moment, and likewise, nor should the private sector be made to pay by not being allowed to buy cheap, coal-fired electricity, unless they're lucky enough to be able to buy it from China.
01:58:05.000This is what is so absurd about what's going on.
01:58:08.000These people are absolutely intent on closing down America in particular, and the West in general.
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02:00:13.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
02:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:00:23.000There's a 40-minute talk I did with Mark Moreno, congressional advisor on climate change.
02:00:28.000The guy that heads up climatedepot.com and infowars.com discussing the other videos that YouTube has taken down because I'm not allowed to criticize a woman who says, get rid of freedom, get rid of my votes.
02:01:05.000And I'm not even into the whole left-right paradigm.
02:01:07.000There's problems on the so-called right.
02:01:09.000But there's something about the left where they always talk about, I hear them on talk radio, about how stupid everyone is and how smart they are.
02:01:18.000And It's amazing that they live off of the tax money I pay, no government handouts here, and then sit around all day and talk about how I'm mentally ill, I'm racist, and I need to have my rights taken away because democracy is bad, in her words, and that I need to do what she says.
02:01:57.000These are people who have lost and lost and lost the argument.
02:02:03.000Every single point they said would come to pass, it's gone the other way.
02:02:09.000Every single piece of analysis they've done is full of more holes than a piece of Gruyere cheese.
02:02:15.000They don't know what they're talking about, and now they've realised it, and so their way of covering up For their own ineptitude, incompetence, and plain malice against the West in trying to shut it down in the name of this bogus scare is to silence all criticism.
02:02:32.000And of course Google, and who sits on the board?
02:02:52.000They just absolutely hate the idea of freedom of expression.
02:02:58.000They hate to admit that the left, having decided this was going to be its defining issue, this was going to be the issue that last allowed them to shut the West down.
02:03:08.000They've now realised it's gone wrong far more quickly than even they had suspected it would.
02:03:14.000They are acutely embarrassed because they know, Alex, and I think I may have said this to you before, I'm going to say it again, this could be the end of the left.
02:03:23.000They bet the farm on this global warming scare.
02:03:26.000They put all their resources, I mean literally tens of millions a year, into propaganda.
02:03:33.000If you just look at the biggest Yeah, what's the total number?
02:03:37.000It's like a hundred billion globally or something they've spent on this?
02:03:40.000Well, I mean, if you just take the ten biggest environmental organizations in the US, they spent between them two billion dollars last year, most of it on climate propaganda as an excuse for trying to shut the West down.
02:03:55.000That's the kind of money they are spraying around, and of course there's a lot of genuine environmentalists, some of them may be listening to this, some of them really do care about the environment, who realise there are real environmental problems.
02:04:05.000Deforestation, overfishing of the world's oceans, a really pressing problem.
02:04:09.000Many species will have gone in 20 years if we don't do something about that.
02:04:12.000And these are things that could be and should be solved by international cooperation in a sensible way.
02:04:18.000But this climate scare is diverting attention away from the real environmental problems.
02:04:26.000They had thought they could get away with what they couldn't do with all the guns and goose-stepping troops, first of Hitler and then of Stalin and Mao.
02:04:35.000They thought they could shut the West down from within.
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02:09:10.000Now, Lord Christopher Monckton, who heads up, well, there's no doubt, globally, the premier aggregator of the scientific data, proving what's really happening with our planet, with the real scientists, the real satellites.
02:09:24.000He's the guy, nine times out of ten, that is forecasting and exposing these people way out ahead.
02:09:30.000So they've called for his arrest, you name it.
02:09:36.000But expanding on that, they have expunged all the universities she's spoken at, or that she's worked at, except for Whitman College, three and a half years ago, when she was commending Obama for appointing John P. Holdren, who's also called for a global tyranny, and drugging the water to sterilize us, and praising authoritarianism, like Dr. Pianka does at UT.
02:10:32.000She says we can't do what the public wants.
02:10:35.000This is even three and a half years ago.
02:10:37.000They knew they were losing momentum and failing because of their power grab.
02:10:40.000Lord Monckton, what do you make of this?
02:10:42.000This is a huge discovery that the little poster girl that they're defending it turns out is an open authoritarian.
02:10:50.000That's no surprise, because so many, particularly in sociology, which is a non-subject, which I would personally ban from all universities, if I were an authoritarian, that is, these people think that they know better than we do.
02:11:04.000This is the essence of totalitarianism.
02:11:07.000They say they know, they are so much sure That they know better than us.
02:11:12.000That they want to tell us every little detail of our lives.
02:11:15.000No, you can't burn coal in the grate or in a power station.
02:11:18.000No, you can't light a candle, it gives off carbon dioxide.
02:11:22.000No, you can't even go back to being a caveman, because that means lighting a fire in your cave, and that emits carbon dioxide.
02:11:28.000What you've got to do is just die and stop breathing, because breathing emits carbon dioxide as well.
02:11:33.000It's this childish, persistent, stupid, intellectually vapid arrogance Which is the hallmark of a totalitarian everywhere.
02:11:44.000And if you call them totalitarians, or fascists, or communists, or international socialists, or whatever phrase also means totalitarianism, oh how they blub!
02:11:54.000I once let slip in Australia that a remark by somebody over there was a fascist opinion.
02:12:01.000I didn't even call the guy a fascist, I just said he'd expressed a fascist opinion.
02:12:05.000And oh my goodness, how the left wailed and howled when I arrived in Australia for a speaking tour last year.
02:12:11.000The West Australian in Perth, where I landed, on the front page said, ban the Lord!
02:12:19.000Every time you use their kind of language back, they want to ban us from saying it, but they want to continue to have the freedom to use this language themselves.
02:12:29.000So there's a poisonous double standard there.
02:12:32.000And this Professor Norgard, the fact is that if she had wanted to deal with what happened, In a professional way.
02:12:39.000Let us suppose that her original paper, as she now claims, didn't contain anything about the treatment of individuals who had this mental disease of not believing that global warming is a global crisis.
02:12:52.000Let's suppose that she was true in that.
02:12:54.000I'm not going to argue that for the moment, at this point.
02:12:58.000The fact is that her university, in a press release which I read while it was still up on the web, said that she, in her paper, it was their press release, describing what she had done, they had cleared it with her before it was put up there, said very clearly that this must be recognised and treated in individuals as well as in societies as a whole.
02:13:21.000And then when I spotted that, I wrote to her a very polite letter, and I said, look, Professor, I don't know whether you said this or not, but the University is saying that you did, or at least it is accused of saying that you did, because I hadn't yet seen the University press release then.
02:13:59.000What she should have done is to write back and say, thank you for writing in such a civilized fashion, to point out what appeared on the press release.
02:14:06.000I hadn't noticed this, I've asked the university to change it, and they're going to put up a new version.
02:14:12.000And that would have quietened the whole matter down in a perfectly straightforward way.
02:14:16.000But no, the left can never admit they ever got anything wrong.
02:14:21.000Instead, furtively, the university, without, it hoped, leaving any trace, took out the words, and treated in the press release that was out at the University of Oregon, and that those words no longer appear.
02:14:38.000I must finish this because there is a Google cache of the earlier version of the page.
02:14:44.000And that proves that the words were there.
02:14:45.000The university didn't realise that in doing this furtively, it was going to make itself look just like another third world dictatorship.
02:14:55.000And what these people have got to learn is they've got to learn that, in fact, in civilized, open debate, there has to be a kind of modicum of honesty, which these people have long since abandoned.
02:15:06.000And that's why nobody listens to them anymore.
02:15:09.000Well, that was my point, though, is that you're being very kind here, saying, you know, perhaps.
02:15:13.000But look, they've expunged all her writings.
02:15:17.000The one writing we find on a university written by her, a letter to the president, officially her site, Says we need to get rid of people's rights on this and do whatever we want.
02:15:28.000And we know this drug, treat, re-educate is constantly parroted by the entire gaggle.
02:15:35.000So she spews a talking point that we've seen ad nauseam by other control freaks.
02:15:41.000other greenie, you know, authoritarians.
02:15:45.000And then we find another thing they haven't memory-holed yet, and it says the same stuff.
02:15:50.000So, I mean, obviously she said it. - I think the point is that the way I like to approach these people is to be very polite to them privately and say, "Look, something's gone wrong here.
02:16:02.000Maybe you'd like to put it right." Then if they're sensible, they write back and they say, "Oh my goodness, I'm so sorry.
02:16:06.000Of course I didn't mean that." And change it.
02:16:40.000The sea level rising at 1.3 inches per century, etc.
02:16:44.000So I think what we have to do is to say very firmly to these people We are now on your case.
02:16:51.000If you come out and demand international climate courts or European criminal climate courts, they're actually talking about that in Europe at the moment, of course I'm trying to stop that too, if you go on talking about having people sent to psychiatric institutions and treated for mental illness, if they dare to rise, raise perfectly legitimate scientific and economic questions rooted in the science,
02:17:18.000Then it is you who deserve to be locked up and not them.
02:17:22.000And I'm going to make a proposal here, Alex.
02:17:24.000I think we're going to need a law which says that anybody who uses that kind of hate speech about having people treated for mental illness, if they dare to disagree with the official so-called consensus, which of course is just a Communist Party lie, Then I think anyone who says that should themselves be locked up in prison for hate speech, for discrimination against those who wish to exercise the right of free speech.
02:17:56.000Because that's not a violation of their speech, because they're calling for sedition against our liberties and our freedom, a revolutionary overthrow of the Magna Carta, of all common sense, of everything that has been the hallmark of free societies.
02:18:09.000When they're saying arrest people for their speech, that is the authoritarianism.
02:18:15.000They're saying shut us up for our scientific discussion, and we see this in every authoritarian system, absolutely.
02:18:22.000I mean, what they're calling for is a criminal takeover.
02:18:26.000Let me tell you the story of Trofim Denisovich Lysenko.
02:18:57.000But that was his theory, and he told his local Communist Party Secretary of this over a beer one night, and the Communist Party Secretary said, trough him, here you are, an ignorant, untutored peasant, but you have come up with an idea as brilliant as this just because you live in the glorious Soviet Union.
02:19:14.000And by this propaganda he ended up, by some ghastly mischance, as head of the Soviet Academy of Sciences.
02:19:21.000As a result of which there were twenty Failed harvests, because they all had to pursue this ludicrous policy of soaking the seed corn in water, where in fact it just becomes rotten and doesn't produce any crop.
02:19:32.000And 20 failed harvests, 20 million Soviet citizens killed of starvation, as a direct result of this mad policy, imposed from the centre, and anybody who quarrelled with Lysenko and said this was wrong, anybody who also opposed his notion there was no such thing as genetics, was sent to prison or killed or both.
02:19:54.000That was what actually happened in Soviet Russia.
02:19:57.000And now the same kind of people are using the same kind of language and advocating the same kind of remedies and it is they, not we, who should go to jail.
02:20:34.000And as the dictator of Nicaragua used to say to those whom he defeated in the various elections there, you won the election, but I won the count.
02:20:42.000They like to stack the way things fall in their favour because they know that they can't beat us in argument.
02:20:50.000If you read Obama's heroes, Saul Alinsky, another communist agitator just like Obama himself, Alinsky and his rules for radicals, he says this, he says, don't try to argue with the capitalists, They are right.
02:21:14.000She's trying to make out that anyone who dares to say That there may be something wrong with this bogus climate science, that it's been oversold and over-exaggerated, and if there's no economic basis for it anyway, anyone who says that, she says, is effectively mentally defective.
02:21:33.000Now Lord Monckton, we've only got a few minutes left, you've been very gracious to join us on short notice, but I want to release the hounds of liberty here, cry havoc and release them.
02:21:43.000She had literally hundreds of pages at three different universities that were expunged, but they will be on the Google cache and the Wayback Machine.
02:21:54.000It is now time for all of us to crawl through the caches of what she said, because they expunged it all in a desperate stratagem to hide this, because the one document we found that they forgot to get, she's calling for authoritarianism.
02:22:13.000Okay, of course you'll say this isn't her either in this letter to Obama.
02:22:16.000So, again, I believe they're afraid of this issue.
02:22:21.000They know that it's hit the zeitgeist, whereas thousands of other academics saying similar things, literally dozens at UT, I know personally, two miles away calling for it, calling for Chinese-style authoritarianism, forced abortion.
02:22:35.000I mean, this is what's pushed by these eugenicists.
02:22:38.000Lord Monckton, I wanted to look at the big picture here and talk about Agenda 21.
02:22:43.000The environmentalists, who aren't real environmentalists as you said, they're distracting from all the real stuff that's happening that needs to be dealt with.
02:22:50.000They are establishing in 2021 a global UNESCO model of the ultra-elite against the rest of the free market, a neo-feudalism, a post-industrial world.
02:22:59.000They've taken over 30,000 acres, that's conservative, in Austin in the last 20 years, forcing people to sell it for pennies on the dollar, farms and ranches in key development zones.
02:23:10.000I've interviewed the farmers and ranchers.
02:23:11.000They take this, one of the fastest growing cities in the U.S., they take this land And a few years later, take the restrictions off, and they, the Commissars, the former mayors and others, sell it and control it and make money off of it.
02:23:39.000Now here's the Austin American-Statesman.
02:23:41.000Residents troubled by surveillance cameras.
02:23:43.000On these tens of thousands of acres they haven't sold yet, because they don't want humans using it because they'll think it's their park, they put up big fences.
02:23:52.000They put up big game fences where the backyards back up and arrest people with hidden cameras that are seen ever walking on the land that was promised to be greenbelt.
02:24:04.000And it says in the article, worst of all, they even hike on the trail.
02:24:09.000The evil humans are hiking on the trail, and they have hidden cameras watching the evil citizens.
02:24:15.000I mean, this is pure feudalism, Lord Monckton.
02:24:21.000It is an outrage, and I think it's time that instead of just complaining about this, we started to make plans to fight back.
02:24:29.000The first step, it seems to me, is to get the matter of President Obama's birth certificate into court with a serious challenge rather than the joke challenges we've had so far.
02:24:39.000The next thing to do is to make sure that the Republicans, who seem to me to be dead from the neck up and dead from the neck down, every time this kind of outrage from the left comes out, they should say something about it.
02:24:51.000Why is it left always to you and me and Mark Morano and a tiny handful of others to speak out and say that this kind of hate speech from Professor Norgard's University, is the kind of thing that ought to be a criminal offence.
02:25:07.000If they try to make hate speech as they define it, from us, a criminal offence, then it's time that they should endure the same thing.
02:25:14.000If they go around accusing people like you and me, Alex, of being mentally defective, because we dare to question the notions of global warming that they present, Then they should go to jail for that, because that is an unreasonable restriction.
02:25:35.000And we have in England a law called criminal libel.
02:25:38.000You do that to me in England, I'll have you in court for it for criminal libel.
02:25:42.000And you can go to jail for a long time for doing it.
02:25:45.000Now, in the United States, you have no such law.
02:25:49.000And I think that free speech, which is guaranteed in your constitution, can only work if universities like that of Oregon are told that if you use hate speech of that kind, you can be fined millions of dollars, and the people at the university responsible for it can go to jail for a very, very long time.
02:26:10.000Let us start using, against the left, precisely the weapons they are trying to use against us, and see how they like it.
02:26:17.000Well, Lord Monckton, don't we start with not even calling them the left?
02:26:21.000Because, I mean, Thomas Jefferson was on the left, you know, the old classic liberal.
02:26:26.000I mean, I can say you would be a classic leftist in that you wanted more freedom, more liberty.
02:26:33.000You can't see them, Lord Monckton, but later you can see the video.
02:26:36.000This is for your request for video stills from the hidden cameras lining the preserve, aiming at people's back kitchen window at night with them inside it eating.
02:26:49.000So this is what, with our tax money, they take tens of thousands of acres, don't want you on it because they want you to forget it's theirs so they can sell it later to their friends.
02:26:59.000I mean, it is just so blasphemous what they do.
02:27:02.000And the reason why they want to keep you off it is that there is a very ancient right which goes back to Roman law and came to your law through English law.
02:27:10.000It's known as usufruct, or right of use, and that if the public passes freely over What would otherwise be private land, without any restriction or fence or anyone saying you mustn't do it, for 10 or 12 years, the public then gains a right of way, which makes a mess of their plans later to sell it on to developers.
02:27:34.000That's why they're putting those fences up.
02:27:36.000That's why they don't want you walking through the land.
02:27:38.000It's not that you're going to tread on the voles or hurt the flowers.
02:28:09.000Because they don't want rights-of-way established because if a right-of-way goes across there, it vastly reduces the sale value to developers.
02:28:17.000It's entirely for basically criminal reasons.
02:28:21.000And the trouble is now that because the state has become so wealthy, And the individual so comparatively poor through having to pay excessive taxation and comply with excessive regulation.
02:28:31.000Fewer and fewer individuals have the kind of wealth that is needed to take these people to the courts and get justice.
02:28:39.000And so I am also looking at proposals now to set up, effectively using their language, a people's court which can call to account any official paid by taxpayers for their behavior and the people will be entitled to free representation at the expense of the public authority against whom they are bringing the charge just so as to level the playing field and allow us
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02:34:26.000It has nothing to do with the environment.
02:34:29.000Side issue, we've got, well, the best-selling author and whistleblower of Economic Hitmen, John Perkins, joining us here for a short interview to just look at what's happening in the world.
02:34:42.000He was, of course, sent in to basically take over countries, and if he failed, they sent in the hitmen.
02:34:46.000Very important information with him here in just a moment.
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02:37:43.000I've got so many questions, but for you right now, what is most important front and center for you, somebody who's been on the inside of this, what the controlled implosion of Europe, Goldman Sachs capturing Europe when Hitler and Mussolini and Napoleon couldn't?
02:37:59.000What is most important on your radar screen right now, John Perkins?
02:38:03.000Well, Alex, I think all of that's important.
02:38:09.000I'm headed off to England and Ireland and Iceland, and I'm traveling around a lot, heading around the United States, speaking very many different places.
02:38:19.000And what I'm really struck by is how We're waking up, and shows like yours are really making that happen.
02:38:27.000And we're seeing, you know, there's the Occupy movement, people are waking up, but we're seeing, I saw it in Istanbul, I see it in the Middle East, I see it in China, we're seeing it in Russia with people standing up to Putin.
02:38:37.000We're seeing it around the world today that people really are waking up.
02:38:41.000And some of it isn't leading anywhere, it's just people out on the streets, you know, demonstrating and talking, but to me it's a good sign that shows like this one, I'm getting through to people.
02:38:53.000And despite the way that the corporatocracy is digging in, we know that we're waking up.
02:39:02.000And the fact that they're digging in so strongly also indicates to us that they know that we're waking up and we're beginning to win.
02:39:09.000And so my hat's off to you and all the others that are out there spreading this word, because the tide's turning.
02:39:17.000Well, I agree with you, and again, they tried to co-opt and take over the Occupy movement that was speaking out against corruption on Wall Street as being the heart of the problem, not just here, but worldwide.
02:39:29.000That's where much of the main system of the monster resides, not just its tentacles.
02:39:34.000But when they couldn't co-opt it, And just turn it into a call for higher taxes.
02:39:39.000The Obama administration had simultaneous raids in 30 plus cities, arrest the people.
02:39:44.000So, they're failing to co-opt the Tea Party, they're failing to co-opt the Occupy movement.
02:39:50.000What do you see from being on the inside of this?
02:39:52.000Describe what an economic hitman is, because we haven't done that in a while, and what we see happening in Europe, what we see unfolding right now.
02:40:02.000on a program yesterday in Ireland, and, you know, Ireland's got hit very hard by economic hitmen, Italy, Greece, Portugal, Iceland, and the United States.
02:40:16.000You know, I've been talking to a group of people here in the United States who took credit cards that said that they could have interest at, you know, 3% is all they have.
02:40:24.000have to pay in their interest, but the fine prints, and many of them, I've talked to this whole group of people that are now trying to file a class action suit because they took out loans, they used these loans to finance down payments on houses and many other things that they thought was at 3%.
02:40:40.000The very, very fine print, and even lawyers didn't see this, said that you could set it up so that your payments would be paid every 30 days or every 35 days, let's say, and automatically and therefore you'd never have to pay more than 3%.
02:40:55.000If you didn't set it up that way, if you didn't pay within those 35 days, your interest payments would go up to 30%.
02:41:03.000What people didn't read, what they didn't see in this extremely fine print was that the banks had the right to go from 35 days to 30 days arbitrarily.
02:41:11.000And so all these people suddenly found that they hadn't made their payment on time because the time frame had changed from 35 to 30 days.
02:41:18.000And so suddenly they're being hit by 30% interest rates on these loans.
02:42:00.000Expanding on what you did so people can understand from an inside perspective on what these mega banks are doing, how they operate, how they take over countries, including ours.
02:42:12.000Because understanding that is a way to reverse engineer it and extricate ourselves from this.
02:42:17.000I mean, describe what you cover in your best-selling book, Economic Hitman.
02:42:25.000identify countries that had resources that corporations covet, like oil, for example, and then arrange a huge loan to that country from the World Bank or one of the other big banking organizations.
02:42:36.000But the money would never actually go to the country.
02:42:38.000Instead, it would go to our own corporations to build infrastructure projects in that country, huge projects like big power plants, hydroelectric plants, transmission lines, distribution stations, and multi-industrial parks,
02:42:53.000things that would benefit a few wealthy families in those countries, as well things that would benefit a few wealthy families in those countries, as well as our own corporations that built them, but wouldn't help the majority of the people who don't have enough money to buy much electricity, can get jobs in industrial parks, who don't hire many people, and yet the people of the country would be less holding this huge debt that So at some point we go back in and say, hey, since you can't pay your debts, essentially give us your resources, your oil or whatever.
02:43:18.000Sell to us at a very low price without any environmental or social regulations.
02:43:23.000without having to take care of the people in the country that we're exploiting, or allow us to build a military base on your soil, or vote with us on the next critical United Nations vote.
02:43:32.000And in a few cases where we couldn't convince presidents to take on those deals, which were really bad for their countries, the jackals step in and they either overthrow governments or assassinate their leaders in the country.
02:43:44.000And, you know, I talk about my own personal experience in Ecuador with the president there, Jaime Roldos, democratically elected president, Omar Torrijos of Panama.
02:44:07.000Well, either overthrow the government, that we just saw this happen in Honduras with President Zelaya about two years ago, or they, and we've seen it of course happen with Allende in Chile and Arbenz in Guatemala and so on and so forth, or they assassinate the leaders, which we saw in my case with Jaime Roldos of of ecuador and over to rehus of panama so they're either overthrown and if they go kind of peacefully and they leave the country like delia did in honduras
02:44:37.000okay if they're not going to go peacefully then they're taken out looking at europe you know i remember we first talked six years ago or so or i guess longer we were talking about how the bankers were now going to do the same stuff to us in europe in the united states in england i'm not sure I've seen some of the top Irish reporters bring up to the European Central Bank in press conferences, hey, most of this debt over 90% isn't even ours.
02:45:02.000You got our government to sign on to your derivatives, and then you lecture terms to us when you loan us money back.
02:45:31.000And what I described earlier that's going on in the United States with these credit card loans is exactly the same thing, but the banks are screwing their own customers big time.
02:45:42.000And it appears to be illegal, what they're doing, because there's this fine print on the contracts that says if you don't They have the right to just arbitrarily change the time frame from 35 days to 30 days, for example.
02:45:57.000And, you know, we've seen this over and over.
02:46:00.000We've seen it here in the United States when, a few years ago, all the bankers were telling people who could only afford a $300,000 house, well, buy the $500,000 house.
02:46:08.000Tighten your belt for a few years and then it'll be worth a million.
02:46:36.000And it's time we really stood up to it.
02:46:37.000And I think people are beginning to stand up to it.
02:46:41.000What did you make of two or three weeks ago when that high-level Goldman Sachs exec quit and said, you know, we try to rip off our clients, we make fun of them, we call them idiots, we call them Muppets, and I just can't be part of this culture anymore.
02:46:53.000And then now we learn Goldman Sachs has sex traffic, sex slave funds, and Mitt Romney's wife is invested in it.
02:47:04.000That guy really hit the nail on the head.
02:47:06.000He opened a Pandora's box, and there's gonna be a lot more coming out.
02:47:16.000And I think we're gonna see a lot more of that coming down the line. - John, why do you think what we've seen, I know you've talked about this, record globally, central bankers, not your local banker that helps the economy, but these finance capital crony people, these insiders, these money changers, I guess you could call 'em, They see this coming down the tube, you know, that people are waking up.
02:47:52.000I mean, they can take their millions and live like kings in many parts of the Remember a few years ago when it turned out that Goldman Sachs was like buying all these weapons at their offices?
02:48:04.000And like having weapons caches at their offices?
02:48:08.000When people are in business as a company buying guns to protect themselves from people with pitchforks and torches, I mean, you know that they know what they're doing.
02:48:18.000Yeah, well, they sort of saw the Occupy movement coming, and it hasn't come nearly as strongly, I think, as a lot of people expected it to.
02:48:25.000But it's been pretty ruthlessly put down in many places.
02:48:30.000We're in a very, very interesting world, Alex, and you know, this is a time that's been prophesized by indigenous cultures around the world as a time of shaking up, of turmoil, and a time when people are going to wake up more.
02:48:43.000We really are waking up, and we have to expect that there's going to be a pushback by the status quo.
02:48:49.000They're going to do everything they can to stop this turnaround from happening.
02:48:57.000Just briefly, the Kony 2012 people we just learned have released their big part two, and I'm attacked in it for pointing out that this was being used by the State Department to try to launch wars in Africa.
02:49:08.000And the same thing's happening in Uganda, you know, in the past.
02:49:16.000There's these calls to go into Sudan and start a war, and my point is they get these well-meaning people involved Thinking backing military intervention is for the good, but I never see the State Department get behind something, John, you know, for the good generally.
02:49:32.000It's always for special interest, but they'll use the left now.
02:49:36.000I'm seeing some of the left call for war as if it's humanitarian.
02:50:20.000Yeah, well, if you remember that Qaddafi, you know, was opposed to the dollar, to the central bank, the Federal Reserve, our central bank.
02:50:30.000He was threatening to create a new exchange for oil that would not be paid for in dollars, but would be paid for what he called the gold diner.
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02:54:51.000After huge ammo buy, DHS purchases bulletproof, resistant booths for highway checkpoints.
02:54:57.000We've got a big article coming out about this professor, saying if you question man-made climate change and paying Al Gore money, basically, you should be put in a mental ward.
02:55:13.000See how fast they pull that off there.
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02:55:26.000John, finish up with Gaddafi, because that's a good model.
02:55:30.000I mean, love him or hate him, he was actually building up Africa, and he was not playing ball with the banker boys.
02:55:35.000He certainly was not playing ball with the banker boys.
02:55:38.000He made the same mistake, if you want to call it that, as Saddam Hussein and the Iranians are poising for the same thing today.
02:55:46.000And that is to say, you know, I'm going to bring the dollar down.
02:55:50.000Basically, he said, you know, there's no reason why we can only trade oil for the U.S. dollars.
02:55:56.000And he was recommending that African nations and other Muslim and Middle East nations buy oil and sell oil for the gold diner, which was a currency that he basically created.
02:56:06.000He had a huge gold supply to back it up in his own country.
02:56:10.000And now we don't take kindly to any infringement upon the Federal Reserve or the U.S.
02:56:27.000And I guess it is we, because we let our government turn into this for the corporations.
02:56:30.000But more and more, they just ignore the people's will.
02:56:34.000The American people don't like what's happening.
02:56:36.000I mean, Congress has a 9% approval rating.
02:56:39.000I think we just need to recognize this government and these corporations do not have our best interests at heart and really are the problem.
02:57:22.000What do you think of how they're trying to rebrand war now under left cover because it's been discredited under the right where, oh, we're going to aid Syria, the rebels, and they're calling them protesters when they're arming people to try to overthrow them?
02:57:35.000Yeah, well, you know, it's just another misuse of words, and we hear that all the time.
02:57:40.000And it's always there for war, and dictators support dictators.
02:57:45.000You know, it was shocking to me that when Mubarak fell in Egypt, that a huge percentage of the American people thought he was a democratically elected president.
02:57:54.000He's been a totalitarian dictator backed up by our CIA for decades.