Holland van den den den Nieuwenhoff and Chris Emery join host Alex Jones on The Alex Jones Show to discuss their new documentary, A Noble Lie: The Oklahoma City Bombing Decade in 1995. The movie is the culmination of 16 years of active resistance to the official story by the truth seekers in Oklahoma City and around the country.
00:01:34.000But we are here, we are, if you don't know, we are the producers of the movie A Noble Lie, Oklahoma City 1995, which is the deconstruction of the official story of the Oklahoma City bombing, and it's the culmination of 16 years of active resistance to the official story by the truth seekers in Oklahoma City and around the country and the globe, people who have been involved in the story from the beginning.
00:01:59.000Fighting the Info War, the agenda that was tried to push down the throat of the American people following the Oklahoma City bombing.
00:02:07.000And of course, A Noble Lie is available at the Info Shop.
00:02:28.000It was basically 12 years in the making, and we used a lot of the information in the Bombing Investigation Committee.
00:02:35.000Folks, if you really want a good review, at least what they call a primer of the case, please go ahead and get a copy of this.
00:02:44.000You will be amazed at the information on there.
00:02:46.000We're looking at doing a follow-up for the next anniversary in 2013 to add more clips, extended interviews.
00:02:54.000So next year is even going to be, we're taking the next step.
00:02:58.000And, uh, this thing is sold absolutely amazing.
00:03:02.00021 different countries, uh, foreign countries, very well here in the U.S.
00:03:05.000Thanks, of course, in large part to, uh, Alex Jones and his staff.
00:03:08.000It was a huge, um, uh, uh, jumpstart on it, and we were very honored to be, uh, accepted at four different film festivals in a five-month period of capturing the best picture feature documentary honor at the Bare Bones Film Festival in Oklahoma.
00:03:23.000And so it's just taken off like great guns.
00:03:25.000And the information, I guess, is what really speaks for itself.
00:03:29.000And I was very honored to work with the film crew.
00:03:32.000Yes, it was very pleasing to see the reception by the like-minded community.
00:03:36.000That was very pleasing to see that they approved of our efforts.
00:03:39.000And they appreciated the information that we had to show them about the bombing.
00:03:43.000Well, we've also experienced some recognition from the filmmaking industry itself, which is pleasing to know that we did produce a very good product.
00:03:54.000And it's been recognized in several film festivals and won awards.
00:03:58.000And so I think that One of the primary reasons that we tried to get the documentary out in this time, right before the year 2012, was not just to expose the lie that is the official story of Oklahoma City, but to expose the methodology of the false flag attack.
00:04:16.000That because people who are guilty, perpetrators who are still walking around, are not held accountable, by definition it will happen again.
00:04:26.000And recently, in recent days, we may be looking at its manifestation.
00:04:33.000And we'll be having our guests on, Andrew Griffin of Red Dirt Report, Stephanie Sledge of thegovernmentofrag.com, to be talking about the Colorado shooting, the Tucson shooting, and the implications for tomorrow.
00:04:45.000So thank you for joining us on The Alex Jones Show.
00:08:29.000Guest hosting today, Friday, July 27th.
00:08:32.000Joined by Chris Emery, my fellow producer on A Noble Lie.
00:08:37.000It is our pleasure, like I said, to be in Alex's studio here in Austin, Texas, and being able to present this information From this pulpit.
00:08:48.000Not the ballot box or the cartridge box, but the preacher's box.
00:08:52.000Talking about the issues that are very important.
00:08:54.000And like I said, it's been a pleasure and an honor to be here.
00:09:00.000Chris introduced me to the tangy tangerine this morning.
00:09:03.000I said, I really need something to keep me on ball today.
00:09:07.000I really don't want to lose my train of thought.
00:09:10.000And I'm always reluctant to jump on the bandwagon of anything.
00:09:14.000And I've heard a lot about Tangy Tangerine and the longevity products, but I must say that I can feel it.
00:09:20.000And this is the first time I've tried it.
00:09:22.000And Chris, you actually went jogging around Towne Lake this morning.
00:09:25.000I went jogging, got up extra early, and I basically have a daily regimen.
00:09:29.000I'll go jogging at least five days a week.
00:09:32.000Do the Tangy Tangerine, do the rebound first, Tangy Tangerine twice a day.
00:09:35.000And also have the Majestic Earth and Longevity.
00:09:39.000And that was turned on to it by Deborah Stevens and Richard Reeves with the Infowars team.
00:09:43.000Over the last 35 years, I've been approached on different, you know, trying to market different products.
00:09:48.000This is the first one that I really locked into.
00:09:51.000And the reason being is not only because Alex and his staff are carrying it, and I believe in the product, that I actually contacted, um, a lot of folks may not be aware of this, but I actually was a photographer with NCAA football in the NFL for nine and a half years.
00:10:04.000Two weeks ago, I got on the phone with two of the guys, trainers that I kept in touch with over the years.
00:10:09.000They went on to basically work in the pro ranks.
00:10:12.000And I says, what about this Longevity product?
00:10:15.000And no sooner than I got the word Longevity out of my mouth, they says, if you have a chance to market this product, please do so.
00:10:20.000And they said, the main reason is it is a plant-based supplement.
00:10:23.000This is what the trainers are saying, the professional trainers.
00:10:26.000And both of them, one owns a very successful chain of workout clubs in Chicago and Milwaukee, and the other one in Atlanta.
00:10:33.000They don't even talk to each other anymore.
00:10:35.000And I got the same summary from both of them within a matter of about 20 minutes, talking to them on the phone.
00:11:12.000And given the huge amount of products on the market, I mean, there's probably a million different supplements that promise a million different things, which is one reason that it's hard for me to jump on board with anything, because it's so hard to discern what is genuine and what is not.
00:11:25.000So we're hearing this feedback from professional trainers, guys who have no dog in the hunt, except they're in the market, so they must actually Advocate the products that actually work and produce results exactly and apparently they are top of the line So I'm a believer now and not only because of the said testimony because I had some this morning for the first time just a little I don't want to overdo it and be bouncing off the walls But I am a believer.
00:11:52.000And given these days where we are under constant environmental and chemical assault, we are being bombarded by toxins left and right, our food is not nurturing, it's not giving us the nutrients that our bodies need.
00:12:10.000Um, we need something to overcome, not just trying to watch our eating habits, because it's hard just to go to the grocery store and pick out the right foods, even if they're organic and pesticide free.
00:12:21.000Um, you're still dealing with a lot of problems with the environment and the toxins that you deal with on a daily basis from the light bulbs In your house to the smart meter.
00:12:43.000So obviously go check out the Longevity products at the info shop and get ahead and live long and prosper because obviously I was having a discussion last night with Deborah Stevens about this.
00:12:58.000There is no way that most of the stuff that is basically the products and the food that we ingest, not all, it cannot be an accident.
00:14:33.000Today on the Alex Jones Show, we're going to have a couple of guests on.
00:14:36.000The first one is going to be Andrew Griffin of TheRedDirtReport.com.
00:14:40.000And he is going to be looking at the shooting in Aurora in the light of what we know to be true about deep state operations, false flag operations.
00:14:52.000This government, this regime's capability and capacity and proven dirty hands in using mass murder, in executing mass murder to execute a political agenda.
00:15:05.000And unfortunately, the shooting in Colorado.
00:15:09.000When it first happened, I was like, you know, I just I'm tired of the false flag attacks.
00:15:13.000I'm tired of this being ramrodded by blood down our throats.
00:15:18.000But we cannot walk away from the fact that there are a lot of fishy things with the shooting in Aurora, including with the suspect, his connections to mind control research and And they are deep.
00:15:30.000If you look at Wayne Madsen's work on James Holmes' connections to... Very mysterious.
00:15:41.000The first thought that struck me was, you know what, there's not a whole lot of people in this country, in this world, who are involved in mind control research.
00:15:49.000And then one of them just happens to shoot up a theater in Colorado at basically the most politically advantageous time for the establishment.
00:16:01.000When Operation Fast and Furious is exploding on the headlines despite the best efforts of the mainstream media.
00:16:07.000When apparently the Congress is voting on a UN gun control ban next week.
00:16:15.000We cannot avoid a train of coincidences that point to an agenda.
00:16:21.000You try to wrap your mind around this, Holland, and you look at the perpetrators, you look at the events, and you have to look at the bigger picture.
00:16:28.000And a lot of you viewers and listeners that are regular are some of the new ones.
00:16:32.000This is not something we're making up.
00:16:35.000You have to look at the real world application.
00:16:37.000They want to take our rights away, and it's a trickle method.
00:16:40.000And before you know it, it's going to end up being a tsunami.
00:16:42.000You're going to wake up one morning and say, wow, what happened?
00:16:44.000We have the opportunity to reverse this.
00:16:46.000And every single time something like this happens, whether it be Oklahoma City or the shooting, Please do your research, find out the facts, and see who the people are behind the mask, or behind the curtain.
00:17:00.000And let's give credit where credit's due to the information warriors out there.
00:17:05.000I mean, the brass casings from the shooting were barely warm on the theater floor before information was already being produced by independent journalists Bloggers, talk show hosts, and so forth, that indicted the official story, that called into question what we were being told.
00:17:22.000And this is a testament to the strength of our movement, and the effect that we're having in the information sphere, is that we can counter the propaganda almost as soon as it comes out.
00:17:35.000And I often think that it's kind of a double-edged sword, this information revolution that we're winning.
00:17:41.000Yes, we're going to be going over that.
00:17:46.000And it's a double-edged sword because the more that we expose their agenda and wake people up, frankly, the more desperate they become to implement that agenda and desperate psychopaths You are a dangerous prospect indeed, and you see things like this happening.
00:18:02.000I often wonder if we just kind of accepted everything and let ourselves be led into the long, dark night of oppression, would it be easier for us?
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00:24:32.000If you've been listening, you know that we are producers for A Noble Lie, which is available at the info shop, looking at the Oklahoma City bombing.
00:24:41.000In the light of suppressed evidence that exposes the official story to be a cruel myth.
00:24:47.000And knowing what we know and knowing what we've discovered over the years in relation to Oklahoma City and related events, when you look at the first bombings at the Twin Towers in 1993, Two years prior to the Oklahoma City bombing, an attack that was executed by a Ryder truck with an ammonium bomb, which later played out in Oklahoma City.
00:25:11.000And then you see that the bombing in 1993 was exposed by CBS News and the New York Times as a fraud, that the FBI had provided live explosives to the informant to carry out the attack.
00:25:25.000Knowing what you know and what we know about these false flag attacks, we cannot turn away from what has occurred in Colorado and look at that horrific event through that lens.
00:25:45.000And we will have on two guests right after this.
00:25:47.000We're gonna have on Andrew Griffin of redditreport.com.
00:25:50.000To discuss some of the anomalous aspects of the shooting in Colorado and the implications for what appears to be the agenda behind that, which is gun control.
00:26:02.000And Aaron Dykes of InfoWars, he put out an article yesterday or today, I highly suggest you look it up.
00:26:09.000If you want to do your homework on the UN gun control treaty that is being voted on, Uh, about a week and a half after the Colorado shooting.
00:26:19.000Uh, this Congress hasn't, uh, debated or entertained a gun control issue in quite a long time.
00:26:26.000But now we have this horrific shooting to frame that debate in.
00:26:31.000And, uh, there are some interesting provisions.
00:26:32.000I highly suggest you, this is an extensive article, he did his homework.
00:26:35.000I highly suggest you go through and check it out, but pay a special attention to Article 15, which is to be voted on by Congress.
00:26:43.000And it is subtitled, International Assistance.
00:26:47.000And I quote directly from the article here, in fulfilling the obligation of this treaty, state parties, parties of the state, that meaning agencies to include the military and the police agencies, parties of these states, these nation states, may seek legal assistance, legislative assistance, technical assistance, institutional capacity building, material assistance or financial assistance to implement the edicts of this treaty.
00:27:16.000You're going to have foreign troops showing up in your neighborhood, coming door to door, kicking your door down if you don't want to let them in, and then take your firearms, and you're unarmed.
00:27:25.000You have no way of defending yourself.
00:27:27.000Well, a general rule when looking at any kind of law or treaty that is passed by the government is to look at the language and see what's allowed with your wildest imagination.
00:27:38.000What can you get away with under this language?
00:27:40.000And then take it a step further and that's what's going to happen because they always exceed their mandate or the legal boundaries of whatever mandate they're operating under anyway.
00:27:48.000So they're going to go farther than this by definition by their past behavior.
00:27:53.000Furthermore, state parties shall assist in investigations, prosecutions, judicial proceedings in relation to the violations of the national measures implemented to comply with obligations under the provisions of this treaty.
00:28:06.000And of course, if that's not wide open enough, at the very end they say, and may provide other forms of assistance as needed.
00:28:13.000So, they can just pretty much do anything they want.
00:28:25.000It's not going to be an easy capitulation.
00:28:26.000If there's ever an argument for getting involved at the state, local level, it is now.
00:28:32.000Obviously, you need to call your congressman.
00:28:34.000You need to call your congressman and tell him that if he votes For this UN gun control treaty that you and all your friends and all your activist organizations and every media outlet that you can call up, you're going to be out on the streets making sure that this person no longer represents you in Congress or in this government.
00:28:53.000Because this is an abrogation of the Second Amendment.
00:28:56.000And the thing is, the one time, whenever we do lose our guns, if that happens, we are never getting them back.
00:29:08.000Once a bureaucracy to enforce a law has been established, it does not go away.
00:29:14.000Several articles on InfoWars earlier this week, there has been not only a slight uptick, but a massive surge in gun sales after this catastrophe in Aurora.
00:29:22.000And that's a sign people understand Conversely, I mean, Obama's his worst enemy.
00:29:27.000I mean, every time they get out there and they start talking about gun control, start buying stock in gun companies, because gun sales go through the roof.
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00:34:06.000We did not get that way from backing down.
00:34:08.000And there is nothing to be gained, everything to be lost by backing down from the war that has been declared upon us.
00:34:16.000I mentioned earlier in the show that we were under chemical and biological assault through our toxins in the environment and the food that we are supposed to be eating.
00:34:24.000But we're also under physical assault, I'm afraid.
00:34:27.000And we saw that in Colorado with the recent shooting, the Batman shooting, the horror in Aurora.
00:34:33.000And we have our next guest on right now, Andrew Griffin of the Red Dirt Report.
00:34:45.000Andrew is a good friend of Chris and I's.
00:34:48.000He is also broadcasting and reporting from Oklahoma City.
00:34:53.000And you've done a lot of good work recently, and you've also been focusing a lot on the recent apparent false flag attack in Colorado.
00:35:05.000You featured Wayne Madsen's excellent report on James Holmes' probable connections to DARPA.
00:35:14.000To mind control, and like I said before, people, there's not a whole lot of people in this country who are working on DARPA mind control programs, and just one of them happens to just shoot up a theater in Colorado at a very politically opportune time.
00:35:29.000And, uh, I can put up with a few coincidences.
00:35:47.000Well, Holland and Chris, I woke up on the morning of July 20th, and I just had a bad feeling.
00:35:54.000I tuned into cable network, and sure enough, a shooting has occurred.
00:36:01.000It was about 4.30 in the morning, and they're already reporting about this shooting in Aurora, Colorado.
00:36:06.000I immediately started researching this.
00:36:08.000The British newspapers, of course, they're seven hours or so ahead of us, so they had more detailed information about it.
00:36:17.000And, uh, you know, I immediately thought back to what happened in Tucson, Arizona last year, January of 2011, with Jared Lee Loeffner.
00:36:25.000And I immediately started researching this event.
00:36:28.000The shooter's name eventually came about.
00:36:32.000There were all sorts of rumors, reports.
00:36:35.000There was a second gunman, that there was a smoke bomb, there was a diversion.
00:36:41.000The gunman allegedly had gotten a phone call and opened the emergency door in the back of the theater.
00:36:47.000That was actually perhaps an accomplice as I watched that CNN clip and it was made pretty clear that he received the the unknown person the John Doe number two.
00:37:07.000There is a young woman who the media seems to be drawn to, who says she had a clear description of the gunman.
00:37:13.000She, like a number of people in the Tucson incident last year, seemed to give this detailed information, whereas the police, if you listen to the police radio recordings, they're clearly looking for two people.
00:37:29.000There was a report of a man with a plaid shirt on, a blue shirt.
00:37:35.000So, you know, clearly, you always have to pay attention.
00:37:38.000I learned this from 9-11 that morning, to always look at the initial reports, study them closely, try to record them, and then compare them to what eventually comes out within the next couple of hours and days.
00:37:51.000The story always, always changes, as we saw here in Oklahoma City, with the reports of a multiple, you know, another bomb being removed from Murrah Rubble.
00:38:47.000I saw the ABC News, they got a hold of a video where the young suspect, James Holmes, is discussing when he was 18 years old, working on his National Institutes of Health grant.
00:38:59.000One of six people in the country to be awarded that grant, apparently is pretty lucrative.
00:39:04.000He was working on what he termed temporal illusions.
00:39:08.000And he described it as a project that he was working on himself, fusing, in his words, fantasy and reality.
00:39:17.000So we had this kid working on this project that involved in neurosciences, fusing reality and illusion.
00:39:26.000And then a couple years later, this same kid believes he's the Joker and shoots up a movie theater.
00:39:33.000So in my mind, the question I have is, was he made to believe that he was actually living in a movie?
00:39:40.000And from what all the photographs and video that have come out so far of him in custody, it looks like he still thinks that way.
00:39:47.000All right, yeah, I mean if you look at Paul Joseph Watson's reports on this, the guy thinks he's, you know, living in some sort of alternate reality.
00:39:56.000He's done some excellent work on researching what's going on here.
00:40:00.000I got a report yesterday from a reader In Australia, he was saying, you know, we're hearing that this guy's in jail and says he doesn't even know what he's doing there.
00:40:10.000I mean, this totally echoes, as Paul Joseph Watson wrote, this is like Sirhan Sirhan, you know, who shot, allegedly, they say, Robert F. Kennedy in 1968.
00:40:19.000I think 1968 was a big year for a lot of these things.
00:40:23.000And right there in Austin, Texas, you had Charles Whitman, the Texas Bell Tower massacre there at UT.
00:40:29.000And, you know, he said in the days prior, to going crazy on August 1st, 1966, that he was not feeling like himself.
00:40:38.000You know, he went through some naval program, although he was a Marine, he went through a naval program, and we don't know a whole lot about what happened there.
00:40:48.000So, just as we have, not that James Holmes was the military but you know he had there was his father's father was working with DARPA in cognitive development sciences you know and that is the military that's a defense advanced research projects agency and DARPA is the tip of the spear when it comes to spooky mind control and military technologies and in fact his father was working on the so-called super soldier program
00:41:17.000Transhumanism, taking the human body and the human senses and enhancing them through cybernetics, cyborg technology, and so forth, to produce a super soldier.
00:41:31.000Someone who could kill people more effectively.
00:41:33.000And then his son, who's also working in the neurosciences, shoots up a theater under the illusion that he had been talking about for years, that he was the Joker.
00:41:47.000And you have, I mean, you could look, there's so many layers to this onion of what happened at that theater in Aurora.
00:41:54.000And going back to, through the Holmes family, you have, I would say there is a political link with the current administration, with the President's links to a congressman in the district that is represented in Aurora.
00:42:12.000What's interesting is that Dr. Robert Holmes, that would be James Holmes' father, his father was involved in what they think are some... Military intelligence, is that correct?
00:42:24.000Yeah, military intelligence with the Turks in Turkey.
00:42:27.000Yeah, he took advanced language training and was sent to Turkey, which is a crucial NATO ally.
00:42:32.000It's on the front lines with the Soviet Union.
00:42:34.000So when someone in the military takes advanced language lessons and gets sent to Turkey, they are a military intelligence.
00:42:40.000Well, right, and what got me to thinking was that President Obama's mother, there's pictures showing her being possibly in Lebanon.
00:42:50.000They think that Stanley Armour Dunham, that was the grandfather of the President, was in a similar program in the Middle East.
00:43:00.000But, you know, that's just one part of it.
00:43:01.000And so there may be a link with Colorado, you have Buckley Air Force Base, which as I was looking into it, Let's see, um, well I can't find it right now, but they have space-based weaponry programs, they study all sorts of things related to space, it's very secretive.
00:43:19.000And here's another thing about these shootings, they've both occurred in counties where the police departments and the sheriff's departments are heavily militarized.
00:43:29.000Aurora obviously just made headlines before the shooting a couple weeks before when Judge Napolitano called them out and said that their unconstitutional and illegal detainment of dozens of people at a road stop looking for a bank robbery suspect.
00:43:57.000And then we look at the Tucson shooting, which happened in Pima County, Arizona, which, of course, is where the Jose Garena shooting happened, where a SWAT team shot a Marine, a Marine over 100 times because he was responding to a disturbance outside his house when they did a no-knock search warrant. a Marine over 100 times because he was responding to
00:44:15.000For frivolous reasons, it was probably an illegal warrant and they found nothing incriminating to indicate this honorable man who has served his country and the military was a criminal at all.
00:44:28.000So we're seeing like this justification of the police state because these events are happening in these areas where there's a lot of federal grant money controlling the methods and methodology and how law enforcement deals with the people.
00:44:43.000Well, you know, on RedDirtReport.com I linked a story from the Oklahoman, the large daily newspaper here in Oklahoma City, ironically owned by Philip Anschutz now.
00:44:58.000Exactly, so you have that strange connection.
00:45:00.000But the story, the top story is, feds arrest Oklahoma high school student who bought guns, talked of hiding bodies.
00:45:06.000So you already have this copycat effect taking place, and that's something that a guy I follow, his name's Loren Coleman, he writes a blog called the Twilight Language Blog.
00:45:16.000He had been actually talking about something possibly happening July 20th.
00:45:21.000It's a little strange, but he said there would be, it was a Bane connection, the villain in the new Batman film.
00:45:28.000And, of course, Bain Capital, which has been in the news because of the connections with Mitt Romney, the Republican presidential candidate.
00:45:38.000And when someone releases a movie in 2012, which is an election year, featuring a Bain character, the writers, I mean, they're not operating in a cocoon.
00:45:46.000They know what's going on in the world.
00:45:50.000Right, and if you look at some of the promotional films for like Mountain Dew, Soda Pop, there is very strange backwards sort of reverse filming techniques taking place in this film while incorporating scenes from the Batman film and some strange things being repeated over and over.
00:47:29.000But you do not discard these eyewitness accounts without reason.
00:47:34.000And until the official agencies come up with a very good reason to discard the reports, multiple, of someone receiving a phone call inside the theater.
00:47:45.000Before the shooting, and then propping open the door, I have to say that there is probably substance to that if they are discarding it.
00:47:54.000Well, you know, there was something I wrote about, in fact, in the days prior to the shooting, and it had to do with the, as you may recall, in 1984, July 18th, 1984, there was a massacre at a McDonald's restaurant in San Ysidro, California, which is a suburb of San Diego.
00:48:11.000Of course, we know about the military influence in that area.
00:48:14.000Oh yes, I was based in Camp Pendleton, just north of San Diego.
00:48:17.000Right, so you had James Huberty shoot up the McDonald's.
00:48:45.000Yeah, so and then you have this happening, I believe, seven days before, you know, about seven or eight days before the Olympics start.
00:48:53.000This time in London, which I've been writing about as well.
00:48:56.000And of course, there's a lot of a lot of people are very on edge about this particular Olympics this year because of threats of terrorism and so forth.
00:49:05.000And of course, Alex and his team have done an excellent job in exposing the security lapses
00:49:10.000And perhaps purposeful lapses in the security with G4S in London and the whistleblower talking about the fact that security was a joke, that they were, you know, literally just walking guns and knives through these scanners that weren't even turned on, that it was just a big charade, and that they actually spent more time talking about a proposed evacuation of London in the event of a major terrorist attack, like this was a probability.
00:49:38.000They spent more time talking about that.
00:49:40.000The whole thing about the London Olympics is that we're seeing a lot of indications that something may happen, which makes me look at it in the... We haven't really... Most of the predictive programming that has been discovered is usually after the fact.
00:49:54.000Now, is because all this information from London coming out because we're getting better?
00:49:59.000Or is it some kind of advanced disinfo program?
00:50:03.000I don't make predictions because, you know, obviously that can go wrong.
00:50:09.000If something does happen in London, and we have the shooting just like in the San Ysidro shooting in the early 80s right before the LA Olympics, and if they're doing that, obviously that is to repeat the formula.
00:50:20.000And that was one of the first modern mass shootings, and a lot of gun control action was taken after that.
00:50:26.000So one cannot deny the timing on so many levels.
00:50:29.000Well, and as you and Chris and I know, we respect Dave McGowan's work, his book Program to Kill.
00:50:37.000I always use that as a reference book because he is very thorough in his investigation of mass murder, serial killers, and so forth.
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00:55:01.000Whenever the feds get their hands caught dirty with blood on their hands, just like Oklahoma City, which was two years after Waco, they have to come up with another attack that they instigate on their own to cover up the blood they have shed.
00:55:13.000And frankly, I think that Aurora is their cover, trying to make us ignore the blood they have on their hands from at least 2,000 people.
00:55:22.000We have perished at the hands of guns that were smuggled into Mexico by the largest gun smuggler in American history, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.
00:55:45.000If you, you know, the name Colorado, color red, you have Aurora meaning dawn, you have, so you see something there on a more synchronistic level.
00:55:56.000And I think that they use that as a trigger moment to, yes, I think come after guns, but I also think they want a confrontation.
00:56:07.000I think that's what they're building towards.
00:56:09.000You see so many things happening, especially along the US-Mexico border.
00:56:13.000The border's wide open, yet we're sending troops overseas still to Afghanistan and trying to keep that disaster ongoing.
00:56:22.000Everything you would think they would do, they're doing the exact opposite.
00:56:26.000So clearly it's going to bring us to a breaking point where I think something big is going to happen.
00:56:33.000I think this was just part of that greater operation and that there will be more in the near future.
00:56:42.000That's what I see and you know just talking to regular people, They sense something.
00:56:49.000They sense something major is wrong around the world.
00:56:52.000I heard the song Ball of Confusion by The Temptations yesterday and it made me think, you know, the lyrics talk about just things are just out of control, no one knows what's going on, you know, you have politicians saying that they're gonna, you know, Well, 2012 is in large part being at least pumped up as some kind of pivotal year, and it is in many ways.
00:57:14.000Of course, it's not the end of the world as we know it.
00:57:17.000I'm not getting into the Mayan prophecies at all, but on many levels it is.
00:57:23.000We have the economy that is on the tipping point.
00:57:27.000I mean, it's being artificially sustained right now just to keep us afloat through the election so it doesn't affect the politics too much because they do have an agenda.
00:57:34.000To get through and I do think they want Obama to serve a second term because just think of what he's got away with in the first term.
00:57:40.000When he's in the second term and he's a lame duck and he's got nothing to lose, boy, watch out.
00:57:46.000And if gun control gets passed, implementing the health care program, it's going to be an interesting time.
00:58:07.000But then after one outrageous shooting under impossible circumstances, I recall one of the Special Forces officers saying that was better shooting than he could do.
01:01:05.000We have a lot of good information here, just multi-level gold nuggets of information, and we're trying to do it in an organized piecemeal system.
01:02:09.000And the InfoWars team certainly is not beholden to anyone.
01:02:12.000We're here in the information revolution to present this information to the people, unvarnished, unfiltered, unpackaged by the mainstream media.
01:02:23.000Because as we all know, the mainstream media is obsolete and that is being proven time and time again as people divorce themselves from the worldview that is being perpetuated by these corporate controlled entities.
01:02:37.000And you must remember that it is not in the interest of the mainstream media to Foment unrest at the true state of affairs when there is political unrest or so forth Profits corporate profits go down.
01:02:50.000These are corporate controlled entities and it is their interest by definition.
01:02:54.000They must Stop the people keep lull them to sleep and keep them consuming things So they do not upset the tea cart that the big boys are all drinking from that is their job and of course Go ahead.
01:03:10.000And of course, you must always take everything that you hear with a grain of salt.
01:03:18.000But do the same, apply the same standard, if not more, knowing what you know about their agenda, to the mainstream media.
01:03:26.000Those of you out there or those who are listening and just imbibe what comes out of the mainstream speaker box, do not assume that that information has been vetted and tested and given the seal of approval by an objective panel of experts.
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01:03:48.000I want to offer to the listeners yesterday, we're actually heading out of Oklahoma City.
01:03:52.000Had to stop by Lightbulb Supply Incorporated in Oklahoma City.
01:04:06.000He listened to the FM station that we carry Alex's show on in Oklahoma City.
01:04:11.000And I went back, gave him a card, and he's bought the copy of the movie, had no idea who I was.
01:04:16.000There are a lot of listeners out there.
01:04:17.000I mean, that happens time and time and time again.
01:04:19.000Not only with our film crew, but we're getting emails.
01:04:21.000When I lived in Australia, a huge audience for Alex's show over there.
01:04:25.000And even though it's, you know, 15, 16 hours difference, they will get up at 3 and 4 o'clock in the morning and online and listen to the show.
01:04:37.000An appeal that the lie can never produce.
01:04:40.000And in that vein, we're here guest hosting the Alex Jones Show, and we'll be right back after this with Stephanie Sledge of thegovernmentrag.com.
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01:08:38.000I am the guest co-host today, Holland van den Oorenhoff, writer-producer for Freemind Films, which released A Noble Lie, Oklahoma City, 1995 in December of last year, to wide acclaim and to recognition from the filmmaking community, exposing the false flag attack of Oklahoma City, and deconstructing the official story.
01:09:01.000And joining me as guest co-host today, July 27th, Friday, is Chris Emery.
01:09:09.000Chris Emery was the writer and producer for A Noble Lie, and the impetus for the creation of the movie in the first place, Chris Emery had been nursing this dream for years and finally we were able to harness enough talent and resources to get it done and here we are guest hosting the Alex Jones Show and it's been a long wild ride my friend.
01:09:35.000Alex hints, and rightfully so, on divine intervention, a Christian-based and family-oriented show, and I think that's the stalwart.
01:09:43.000That's why this show is doing so well.
01:09:46.000And I could say personally that there was divine intervention on a lot of the aspects of getting our film together.
01:09:58.000We quit counting how many times, it's beyond synchronicity, there was a purpose and we pretty much just let it in the hands of the being that was there.
01:10:07.000They knew or whatever knew that we were doing the right thing and it's absolutely amazing to see.
01:10:13.000After it was released, 500 would sell, then 1,000, then 1,500.
01:10:18.000I mean the numbers just keep, it was like riding a race horse for the first two weeks, just figuring out how to control the sales, going all over the world.
01:10:25.000This show and this studio was the main impetus behind the fact that we were able to get that exposure in such a short amount of time and it continues to come in.
01:10:52.000She is from thegovernmentrag.com, which by the way is an excellent news source.
01:10:57.000For those of you looking for another source for daily trolling your news and figuring out what's happening to us, thegovernmentrag.com is an excellent source.
01:11:05.000And the webmaster and head journalist Stephanie Sledge is here joining us.
01:11:17.000Anyways, you have established one of the most credible and largest bodies of work on the Tucson shooting in January of last year.
01:11:28.000That shooting left many people dead, including U.S.
01:11:32.000Representative Gabby Giffords, and also Federal Judge John Roll, who is not mentioned nearly as much as Gabby Giffords, although Gabby Giffords lived through her horrific injury.
01:11:46.000Judge Roll was killed, and his status as a victim is not mentioned hardly at all.
01:11:51.000When a federal judge is In my mind, this is frankly a much more crucial position than a state rep from Arizona, especially a judge who has served on the bench for decades in many crucial cases, including the Brady Bill, which it appears that this attack and others are tied into.
01:12:10.000So, Stephanie, tell the audience who you are and how you got started on the Tucson shooting.
01:12:17.000Well, I do a lot of research and I also do investigative journalism.
01:12:23.000I have an activism site that is called the governmentrag.com and I initially looked into this because this happened in last year on January 8th of 2011 and right away I suspected that Hold on, January 8th, 11.
01:12:42.000No, I'm not big for numerology, but that's 1-8-11.
01:13:13.000There were other things, too, that led me, you know, to even look into it further, including media splicing the 9-1-1 calls that had originally been from Pete and Patty, and, of course, just a number of things added up.
01:13:26.000So they were actually splicing audio of the 9-1-1 calls?
01:14:11.000And the Pima County Sheriff was giving a news conference and talking about how politics, radical politics or right-wing politics was responsible for this.
01:14:24.000And I was thinking, you're the law enforcement official, you should be counting shell casings right now, not rendering any kind of conclusion as to motive.
01:14:34.000I don't even know the shooter's name yet, and you're telling me why this occurred?
01:14:39.000And it's to be blamed on the Tea Party and hateful politics.
01:14:44.000So right away I was like, oh, that's when my feelers went up.
01:14:48.000But you were bringing up eyewitness testimony, and there was eyewitness testimony of a second shooter, right?
01:14:55.000A shooter on the grass, you know, is that correct?
01:14:58.000Sure, yeah, there was eyewitness accounts, according to the 911 calls, that there was, in my belief, there were three shooters at the scene that day, based on descriptions that the 911 calls had come out.
01:15:15.000And so, immediately, you know, I was not convinced that this was the lone gunman.
01:15:22.000And originally, they did say Well, here's another thing, Stephanie.
01:15:24.000Have they released the videotape from that parking lot that was in a shopping center?
01:15:28.000Have they released any of those tapes?
01:15:31.000Yeah, well, if there was just one gunman.
01:15:35.000Why don't they release the videotapes?
01:15:36.000And the reason I bring this up, people, is because I have been dealing with this issue this team has for over a decade with the Oklahoma City bombing.
01:15:44.000When you have a federal building that's exploded, bombed in downtown Oklahoma City, an area that has overcoverage from security cameras, and they've never released the cameras to verify or disprove the eyewitness accounts of that day, where everyone who saw Tim McVeigh step out of the Ryder truck saw him with another person.
01:16:03.000I'm not saying some reports or a majority.
01:16:05.000All of the reports place him with another person.
01:16:09.000And most of the people in the building and the seismograph data indicate, plus a host of other evidence, proves that the truck bomb was not the sole cause of destruction, that the truck bomb exploding in the street Was a separate event from the bombs that were going off inside the building before the truck bomb went off.
01:16:26.000And of course you can check this evidence out in our documentary on NobleLie.com available at the info shop.
01:16:32.000But the reason I bring this up is the videotapes.
01:16:34.000Once again we're seeing them bury the videotapes.
01:16:46.000It's always been courtroom drawings or pictures that have been released by either Pima County or the Marshal's Office.
01:16:53.000So, we have no proof that Jared Lee Loftner is even real.
01:16:58.000There is some background information that has come from the court systems and of course his friends and what has been reported on him, but there has been no live shots or any videotapes released of this crime scene.
01:17:15.000Yeah, and especially now with the Aurora shooting, the focus on Tucson is really going to go down because this is more recent and there might not even be a trial.
01:17:25.000I mean, I think he, I think Jerry Lee Loeffner, the Tucson suspect, is being held in the federal mental health facility in Springfield, Missouri.
01:17:34.000Yeah, he's hopped up on a variety of psychotropic drugs, and if there's no trial, there's not going to be any presentation of the ballistic evidence.
01:17:43.000There's not going to be any presentation of any disputing eyewitness testimony.
01:17:47.000All of that's going to go away, especially if he's found insane.
01:17:51.000So what we're looking at is a crafting of the story, and it happened from minute one, when they were splicing 9-11 tapes, the media.
01:18:01.000Well, it's not just the 911 calls that were spliced also.
01:18:06.000The dispatcher calls do not, they do not add up to what the heroes or any of the witnesses say.
01:18:13.000Take for instance, on the On the original 9-1-1 calls, the dispatcher on the dispatch tapes, you know, they claim that there was no gun that was found initially at the scene and that does not coincide with what the five witnesses that supposedly tackled Jared Lee Loftner
01:18:37.000You know, claimed that they had took away his gun, you know, secured the scene, but the dispatch tapes claim, and officer claims, that there was no gun at the scene, that they were looking for it in the grass somewhere.
01:18:51.000And these are actually police officer reports, not just a frantic eyewitness recollections.
01:18:56.000These are officers on the scene trying to take control of a chaotic situation, and they're saying there is no gun.
01:19:07.000And there's a lot of other things, too.
01:19:09.000One of the questions that I had right away is, you know, where's the stand-down order?
01:19:14.000And that was based on the fact that... Stand-down order on by whom, against whom?
01:19:20.000Well, on the Congresswoman-on-the-corner event.
01:19:24.000Usually when there's some type of event like that where you have a Congresswoman or, you know, any type of A political rally going on like that, that there usually is some sort of... Security.
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01:24:21.000We are talking to Stephanie Sludge about the Tucson shooting.
01:24:24.000The anomalous evidence that has arisen out of the Tucson shooting of last year, before we went to break.
01:24:31.000And if you're calling and ask Stephanie a question, be patient.
01:24:33.000After this segment, we will be taking callers asking Stephanie about her findings, which are fascinating, which is why we brought him here to the Alex Jones Show.
01:24:43.000And Stephanie, right before we broke, We were talking about the stand downs on security for the supposed targets of the shooting in Arizona.
01:24:53.000And this is another common thread of the false flag methodology, is you see a stand down of the security that would normally be there.
01:25:05.000And they usually stand it down right before the event.
01:25:11.000The event in Tucson, the shooting, the mass shooting that injured Gabrielle Giffords and killed Judge John Roll, and he had his marshal service pulled.
01:25:20.000And there was no security for this high VIP event.
01:25:23.000I mean, this is not before the age of terror.
01:25:28.000Everyone obviously knows that there are dangers out there, especially these days when there are political events, and there is no security.
01:25:39.000And Judge General, a couple of reports that come out, I haven't been able to quite pin down which one is the truth, but one of them stated that Judge General had asked for self-service protection to be removed, and another had reported that it was removed, it was just removed.
01:25:56.000Well, I guarantee that he did not ask because we have two competing news releases.
01:26:00.000One of them is damage control and obviously the judge, the good judge, cannot answer or confirm that question anymore.
01:26:08.000And so his security was pulled and Judge John Roll had been a pivotal figure in gun rights.
01:26:14.000He was recognized by Sheriff Mack for his favorable rulings on the Brady Bill.
01:26:19.000And there's not a whole lot of federal judges who can receive praise from Sheriff Mack.
01:26:23.000And one of them happens to get shot and is turned into a gun control event.
01:26:28.000Well, and I found it suspicious because he was working.
01:26:32.000He had several cases that were considered to be a threat to his life that he was working on.
01:26:38.000And so I found it very interesting that his protection was pulled, as well as the fact that standard procedure for these events usually have at least one ambulance nearby, some type of police helicopter mounted somewhere, you know, in close range, also crowd control and you know, in close range, also crowd control and usually four to five police officers with some type of surveillance.
01:27:00.000So there was none of that provided at the scene.
01:27:03.000And I found that very, very, very special.
01:27:06.000Yeah, this is not some whistle-stop tour, you know, in the 1930s Depression era where a gubernatorial candidate is shaking hands with local farmers.
01:27:15.000This was an announced event during the War on Terror.
01:27:20.000Every agency, and this was a large town, Tucson, has contingency plans and it appears that it was just a 911 response, that there was nothing in place.
01:27:33.000And other things, too, that came about that made me, you know, really look into this a little bit further is, you know, there was a lot of photos that were released of the crime scene, but when I went out there, a lot of the photos didn't match the crime scene.
01:28:01.000Some of them do and some of them don't.
01:28:03.000There are some that have been released that do not, the backgrounds do not match like the actual crime scene.
01:28:12.000And so, you know, that led me to look into it a little bit further and also to, you know, there's a lot of other things that didn't add up like how many bullets were actually, you know, fired that are inconsistent with the autopsy reports, victims, witnesses at the scene.
01:28:34.000Obviously you have the mind control, I mean, and Sirhan Saran, his own psychologist said that he was a, he was a hypnotized patsy.
01:28:42.000Every psychologist, psychiatrist who treated him was amazed at how easy it was to hypnotize this man.
01:28:47.000It was very indicative of large-scale, prior, deep uh hypnosis and and saran saran later claimed of course and to this day that he has no memory of what actually happened in that pantry and then now we have another correlation the the number of bullets uh the number of bullets showcasing found at the scene in the pantry in la where rfk was killed exceeded uh the the capacity of saran saran's gun and now we're looking at tucson and once again we have too many bullets well
01:29:15.000and the accuracy rate that jared lee laster allegedly had was a hundred percent i mean he you know allegedly shot that they initially super soldier yes Like Nick Bryan in Australia.
01:29:29.000We see this time and time again, these outlandish notions passed off as reality, managed by the mainstream media, splicing tapes together, giving us fake photos.
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01:33:37.000And our guest is Stephanie Sledge and we're getting callers on the line and we will get to you in just a minute or two.
01:33:44.000I know this information, this is fascinating and you want to ask Stephanie yourself so just in a couple seconds.
01:33:50.000We'll start bringing the callers on board to ask Stephanie your questions.
01:33:55.000And just before we went to break, we were talking about the fact that the number of showcasings, the evidence is not matching up with the official story of the Tucson shooting.
01:34:06.000Before we go to callers, Stephanie, and we just touched the tip of the iceberg of the evidence that you have on the governmentrag.com.
01:34:15.000But let's talk about the correlations to the recent shooting in Colorado.
01:34:19.000What do you see similar happening in Colorado that you have unearthed yourself in Tucson?
01:34:35.000I don't know what happened, there was a cut out.
01:34:37.000The first similarity that I found was the fact that there was a gag order put in place, which is very common with these false flags.
01:34:44.000The first thing is the gag order, and so nobody's allowed to talk, and so that, you know, conditions the populace that, well, you know... But yet the media is allowed to make all the conjecture and lies they want.
01:34:57.000It's just the principals involved who may be speaking on true evidence.
01:35:01.000They're not allowed to talk, is that correct?
01:35:04.000And there are other things that are very similar that I found as far as agenda is concerned.
01:35:09.000First of all, everything always starts out with something negative with the shooter, like dressed in black, or something that coincides with an agenda.
01:35:18.000And of course, we know after the Tupan shooting that a lot of the agenda that's being pushed through It's not only just about gun control, but it's also about taking away our freedom of rights and our freedom of expression.
01:35:30.000And so, you know, terrorists have been listed as wearing all black, black hoodies, um, a number of things.
01:35:36.000So there's a lot of that that has a lot of similarities.
01:35:39.000And also I noticed, uh, the commonality of the extended clip or, you know, what they incorrectly call it.
01:35:48.000The extended magazine debate, which goes back to the Brady Bill, which was a limitation on magazine capacity of rifles and pistols that was in place for 10 years in this country, expired just a couple years ago.
01:35:59.000And they're really sorry that provision expired.
01:36:02.000But that's the only way they could get it passed because of the strength The support for the Second Amendment in this country and now we see in both shootings the use of an extended magazine which is which of course is the Brady argument and then we have one of the targets killed in Tucson was a judge who had ruled favorably for gun rights Back in the 90s on the Brady Bill.
01:36:23.000So I think what we're seeing is this implanting of the, and they're already talking about how military arms should not be in the hands of American citizens on the streets.
01:36:32.000And when extended magazines are no advantage, they are largely a gimmick.
01:36:38.000And in fact, in the Colorado shooting, the extended magazine failed, which is why he had to go to a secondary weapon.
01:36:44.000But it's not about the real lethality of an extended magazine.
01:36:47.000It's about the demonizing large capacity Weapons, which means going back to the Brady provisions.
01:36:55.000And if extended magazines were any more effective, any more lethal than a regular magazine, you would see the military using them.
01:37:03.000But they do not because they confer no advantage.
01:37:07.000The people who are using them on a daily basis to defend themselves and to shoot people do not use extended magazines because it offers no advantage.
01:37:35.000That was the medical agenda behind the scenes of the Tucson shooting.
01:37:40.000And suspended animation was quite interesting to study because I personally had never heard of it before I had started this case.
01:37:48.000And so I looked into exactly when the news broke that they had performed a procedure called suspended animation, I immediately thought in my head that this has something, this goes deep, so I'm going to look into it.
01:38:00.000And what I found was that... And this was on Gabby Giffords, who survived her gun wound to the head because somehow they were able to keep her afloat through suspended animation, slowing down her bodily functions.
01:38:27.000And I found a lot of interesting agenda coming out through the University of Arizona and a lot of the doctors that perform the surgery have a lot of very deep ties into the military as well as Well, let's not forget also that Gabby Giffords, as we're all reminded time and time again, was married to an astronaut who worked for NASA.
01:38:52.000And of course, any agency, more than any other, who would be interested in a suspended animation research would be NASA.
01:38:59.000Of course, for interstellar travel or for deep space travel as portrayed in science fiction movies.
01:39:05.000Maybe if we actually want to send a man to Mars, we will use suspended animation, at least to Jupiter.
01:39:10.000Well, and an interesting point about NASA and suspended animation is following the shooting, NASA did capture, um, I don't have those notes in front of me, but I believe they captured dark matter using suspended animation.
01:39:23.000And what they're using it for is, just like the movie Angels and Demons, it's like a crystal ball.
01:39:29.000And so they're able to see the future with it.
01:39:31.000And of course, it also, you know, the Brain Trauma Foundation, which, you know, is George Soros and it leads to the Open Society Institute and all that, ties back to these Peace Corps and, you know, Dr. Peter Lee, who performed the I mean, all you gotta do and when, and you have done it, Stephanie, I highly advise those of you listening and watching to check out thegovernmentrag.com to chase down these leads that she has presented.
01:40:05.000Here we have the introduction of the notion of suspended animation.
01:40:09.000There's not a whole lot of people involved in suspended animation work who are married to NASA astronauts, but they just happen to get shot in the head in Tucson, Arizona.
01:40:17.000Yeah, the probability is... And they use suspended animation.
01:40:22.000We're going to start taking callers in a second.
01:40:26.000For those of you listening, the call-in number is 1-800-259-9231.
01:40:36.000And go ahead, Stephanie, wrap up, and then we're going to hit the callers.
01:40:39.000As far as what DARPA wanted, you have to understand that following the shooting, the FDA did approve suspended animation, and the Army-funded research projects into suspended animation, including DARPA has an interest in it, too.
01:40:57.000And they are performing procedures to involve...
01:41:30.000I interviewed Wayne Manson, I think it was maybe a couple of months or a couple of weeks after the shooting in Arizona, and he had linked Judge Roll as well to, I believe it was Judge Roll, Gabrielle Giffords, and another congressman from Texas were all exchanging notes to one another, and they were going to get set to, I think Gabrielle Giffords was going to get set to expose what was going on in Arizona linked to
01:41:58.000And you guys were just mentioning about the videos.
01:42:41.000Yeah, and like I said, in Aurora, where there's already heavy police state presence.
01:42:43.000Stephanie, do you have anything to add to that?
01:42:46.000Well, I would like to say, too, that I do agree with Wayne Madsen's report about the fact that the ATF, you know, they were going to expose that, and so that seems to be coming up, and it goes along with gun control.
01:43:00.000Yeah, and Fast and Furious, of course, was the bone of contention when it came to the gun control debate.
01:43:07.000Fast and Furious blew up in their face, and gun control had no traction.
01:43:13.000And because of the Colorado shooting, that argument Maybe has been tossed aside, and there may be solid concrete links between the victims involved in the Tucson shooting the year before and Fast and Furious.
01:43:36.000And I do want to say too that the ATF did admit that they denied that Jared Lee Lofner's gun was involved in Fast and Furious, but yet they admitted that they were worried about it.
01:43:47.000So they haven't admitted, but they haven't denied either.
01:43:51.000So that's still under investigation and I'm following the court documents on that.
01:44:23.000He's already on the news talking about pre-delinquent crime and how we're going to need the naked body scanners everywhere.
01:44:30.000Naked body scanners, by the way, which he owns a piece of.
01:44:32.000Of course, that's just another coincidence.
01:44:34.000It has nothing to do with the agenda that's at play here.
01:44:36.000I mean, I remember the day after 9-11 when I lived in Austin, I went to the movies, and there was a police officer outside the movie theater, and I had dropped my girlfriend at the time off to buy tickets while I parked, and he asked me to move on to not park in front of the movie theater.
01:44:52.000So, there's been an emphasis on theaters in the War on Terror literally since day one.
01:44:58.000So, we're probably, and I frankly, I mean, we may see naked body scanners at the movie theaters, and because of this, people are just not going to object.
01:45:16.000I went out to the sites here in Tucson with Stephanie.
01:45:20.000And I can personally attest that I witnessed a few bizarre things myself.
01:45:28.000One of the things I noticed was one of the Pima County Sheriff's deputies that were pictured on one of the crime scene photos is connected to the Pablo Escobar drug cartel down in, where's that, Mexico, I believe?
01:45:50.000I cannot verify that, but I do have information that there is a person that verifies that the man that was in the photo, even though we know that photo of the Escobar killing was photoshopped by telling by the blood on
01:46:08.000You know, they show the same blood on the same stone many times, so we know it's been tampered with, but there is information that he was in town for a 24-hour period that the day of the shooting.
01:46:48.000Do you have a question or comment for our guest?
01:46:51.000Yeah, I just wanted to mention, like, this is selective, you know, media targeting You know, they want to target all lawful gun owners.
01:47:01.000When you see it in Albany, I'm living in Massachusetts, but in Albany, I met this guy, and he was talking to, he was out of Roy Rogers, and he's talking, he's like, yeah, they caught the guys, and I'm like, well, you know, what's going on here?
01:47:11.000He goes, yeah, someone shot, he was sitting on his porch, and some kids, some teenagers, they shot him with a gun.
01:47:59.000Meanwhile, you see a local shooting in another state that is receiving the comment and editorial from the Office of the President of the United States of America, which obviously means that there is an agenda at work.
01:48:40.000Well, Stephanie, I believe that this story is not finished, and one cannot rule anything out.
01:48:47.000But you start from the most approvable piece of evidence first, and you expand outward from there as far as the strength of the evidence can take you.
01:48:58.000And do you have anything to comment on that, Stephanie?
01:49:16.000Also, Raytheon has come up, as well as the Hess Corporation.
01:49:20.000And so, um, at this point, you know, I'm still looking into those leads right now, but I do know that, um, as far as, uh, the RAND Corporation, you know, they're, they're, they're close ties to the FEMA region, um, out there.
01:49:35.000The RAND Corporation is a, is a think tank for the Defense Department and the CIA.
01:49:40.000They have done that from the beginning.
01:49:41.000That's their primary purpose, that they produce policy papers for intelligence and in deep state events.
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01:54:41.000Do you have a question or comment for our guest Stephanie?
01:54:47.000Elijah, Elijah in PA, do you have a question or comment?
01:54:52.000You have a question, um, I was in the military, 82nd Airborne, um, you don't just go and pick up munitions and, you know, booby-trapped bombs and, um, and that takes training and even then, you know, years of experience.
01:55:08.000It took experts, what, a day, two days to, uh, take this, uh, you know, take those booby-traps apart.
01:55:14.000Yeah, you're talking about the Aurora shooting.
01:56:40.000That's what we ran across in the Oklahoma City case.
01:56:42.000When you look at the funding, the expertise, the level of training needed, and that was one of the first underpinnings that fell out immediately when the official narrative came out.
01:56:53.000And then you actually did reverse engineering and we saw what it would take to actually put something like this together.
01:58:12.000Stephanie, give the audience your information please before we leave.
01:58:17.000Um, well, I have my, I'm taking pre-orders for my report right now, which is about 400 pages, colored photos of the investigation.
01:58:26.000You can go to the governmentrag.com, click on the top left-hand side that states investigations, and you can read about it there, and you can order, pre-order the report and get the word out.
02:01:54.000She is a former Homeland Security agent.
02:01:57.000She joined the Homeland Security Department not long after 9-11 for patriotic reasons.
02:02:03.000She wanted to serve her country, protect her country.
02:02:07.000But once she started reporting on corruption within the department that endangered American lives, what she saw and experienced were the guns of Homeland Security being turned on her.
02:02:20.000And I'm pretty jaded when it comes to police state abuse, scandal, government malfeasance.
02:02:51.000Unfortunately for her persecutors in Homeland Security, Julia Davis' husband and she herself, they both work in the professional movie industry out of Hollywood.
02:03:47.000Many controversial and hard-hitting documentaries have scored at the Oscars, including the Panama Deception, Waco, The New Revelation, and others.
02:03:58.000So hopefully that spirit still exists, that exposure can be paid to this work, and Julie will be joining us on the other side of this to talk about that.
02:04:07.000And like I said, I am jaded when it comes to this stuff.
02:08:24.000We really have worked with Julia Davis, worked with her for a long time, and her story, like I said, is shocking.
02:08:32.000A former Homeland Security agent, Married to BJ Davis, a Hollywood producer, and she was subjected to, in my mind, an unprecedented amount of persecution and harassment by the Department of Homeland Security simply for trying to maintain her fidelity to her duty.
02:08:50.000Julia Davis, welcome to the Alex Jones Show.
02:08:56.000Now, you have been reporting on a number of issues, but you're just not a reporter.
02:09:00.000You have experienced, been on the front lines, had your life threatened because of information you possessed that was deemed dangerous by the establishment.
02:09:12.000Why don't you tell the audience how this started?
02:09:16.000I went into work for the Department of Homeland Security after 9-11, and I was starry-eyed and very naive.
02:09:23.000I wanted to help protect the nation from the terrorist threat, and when I tried to do exactly that, I've encountered retaliation that I could have never imagined happening in this great country, and I'm sure Most patriots, even those that know of the atrocious things that are being done to whistleblowers, would probably be surprised at the kind of retaliation that I've encountered.
02:09:52.000I was working at the largest and busiest land border crossing in the United States and in the world.
02:09:57.000San Ysidro Port of Entry and we had very specific intelligence alerts that Al-Qaeda was planning to penetrate the land borders between the U.S.
02:10:09.000and Mexico on national holidays and the date of special importance, we were told, would be 4th of July 2004, Independence Day.
02:10:21.000And on that date, 23 people from special interest countries, which are terrorist countries, have been allowed to enter the United States without being enrolled into any databases that they were supposed to be enrolled in, without their documents being copied, without their fingerprints being taken.
02:10:39.000Wait, they just walked across the border?
02:10:42.000And when I reported this event to the local port director, he told me to take it to Intel.
02:10:51.000When I went to Intel, I was surprised to see that on this date of heightened security alert, all Intel workers were given a day off and the office was closed.
02:11:02.000So I was told to just turn in the paperwork and they would get to it when they get to it.
02:11:07.000But our manual said that whenever anything that could be remotely related to terrorism was taking place, we were to notify the Joint Terrorism Task Force.
02:11:29.000My home was raided with a Blackhawk helicopter and a special response team.
02:11:33.000My husband and I have been twice falsely arrested and imprisoned and had to fight for years to clear our name and to have Department of Homeland Security held accountable for their actions.
02:11:48.000Yes, and they actually launched an unprecedented, a ridiculous number of investigations on you while you were still working for Homeland Security.
02:11:58.000They started with 19 investigations while I was still working for Homeland Security and then once I was subjected to such retaliation that working there was no longer feasible, they continued to investigate me even after I involuntarily resigned.
02:12:15.000So a total number of investigations that we are aware of is 54.
02:12:22.00054 investigations against one person, and it's literally for doing your job.
02:12:28.000For reporting on an unprecedented breach of security where all these people from suspicious countries, when a heightened terror alert was in place dealing specifically with the nature of this breach, when this breach occurred and you reported it, they went after you because you made them look bad.
02:12:51.000Exactly, and my report about people from terrorist countries entering without requisite procedures being followed was closed the same day with no action and no investigation.
02:13:02.000So that investigation that investigation that should have taken place on why 23 people from suspected countries will just be able to walk through the border without any kind of background check that was required.
02:13:13.000They they closed that after one day, but they for weeks and months conducted 54 investigations against you, one of their own for being for doing your duty, for trying to report on this.
02:13:27.000And it shows you how depraved and where the priorities of Homeland Security are.
02:13:32.000Now you mentioned of course that it actually came down to them raiding your home and no exaggeration landing a helicopter on your front lawn.
02:13:46.000Yes, after I had resigned from Homeland Security, I knew that what was done to me was unjust, so I filed a case against Homeland Security in the Equal Employment Opportunities Commission Court.
02:14:01.000There was a ruling in my favor that said that no reasonable person would have been able to continue working there under such circumstances.
02:14:09.000And that my resignation was involuntary and was caused by Department of Homeland Security's illegal conduct against me.
02:14:16.000So two weeks after I won this case against Homeland Security, they land the Black Hawk helicopter.
02:14:28.000Our neighbor Matthew Judd saw this was happening and stepped out of his home and started filming the raid with his camera and at one point during the raid he actually realized that the agents have noticed them being filmed and he said on camera, "Oh no, they saw me." And he walked into the house but continued filming through his window.
02:14:52.000And yes, he did videotape the raid where Black Hawk helicopter had landed by our home and 27 men, special response team and other agents, 27 Homeland Security agents and one U.S.
02:15:18.000And mind you, you weren't living in Pakistan.
02:15:21.000They could have driven up to your driveway in a car and knocked on the door and said, hey, I have a warrant and I'm here to search your premises.
02:15:29.000Can you please have a seat in the living room while we conduct a search?
02:15:33.000No, they didn't do that because, well, first of all, you and BJ are not dangerous terrorists.
02:15:56.000And they actually didn't even have a search warrant, but they stayed in our house for about two hours, close to two hours, searching it without a search warrant.
02:16:07.000And they knew before the raid that my dad had a heart condition because they had already pulled up my parents' immigration files because Not only did they plan to denaturalize and deport me, but they were already planning to also deport my parents, which were completely innocent victims in all of this.
02:16:28.000And so when they arrived to the house, my dad walked out and asked them what is going on here.
02:16:35.000And he was attacked by several Special response team agents with assault weapons who threw him down to the ground with such a force that they broke his finger.
02:16:45.000They handcuffed him and they dragged him down a tall set of steps and from the house, they dragged him away from the house.
02:17:23.000He had lived under a communist dictatorship.
02:17:25.000He came to this country to escape such things, and now we've reached the state of affairs where he's being dragged out of his house in America, in California, in Palm Springs, by the secret police, being tossed around and abused because of a political witch hunt.
02:17:43.000Exactly, and they had no warrant and no right to lay one finger on him, much less to handcuff him and detain him completely illegally and keep him in full desert sun.
02:17:58.000You can imagine anyone with a heart condition being put through this kind of an ordeal would be pretty much guaranteed to have a heart attack.
02:18:06.000And my dad knew he was having a heart attack.
02:18:08.000He was telling the agents that were Holding him down.
02:18:21.000He could see there was an ambulance stationed right across the street that they brought it there for protocol for this raid.
02:18:29.000But instead of letting him have water and medication, which they refused to, they had actually radioed the ambulance and told them they were no longer needed and sent them away.
02:18:40.000We obtained the radio logs from the Sheriff's Department that show all this happening.
02:18:46.000So my dad had an untreated heart attack because of all of this and he didn't live much longer because of this kind of brutal mistreatment and the agents knew how close I was to my father.
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02:24:21.000Actually, after we talk to Julia, we have a clip from last night's show.
02:24:25.000Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America talking about the Colorado shooting and his take on what he thinks that the fix may be in on the horror in Aurora.
02:24:35.000We'll be playing that clip after we talk to Julia.
02:24:40.000But we have a fire hose of information For you today, and we're unleashing word or open up the faucet We're tearing the faucet out of the wall, and we are here to present this information We got Julia Davis on the line her documentary Documenting her story top priority the enemy within this story sounds outrageous I know it is outrageous.
02:25:02.000We know that but it is on tape it is documented and Homeland Security they mess with the wrong people and Because Julie and BJ, they had the will and the determination to clear their name and to fight back.
02:25:15.000But Julia, we were talking about how Homeland Security basically conspired and succeeded in murdering your father.
02:25:23.000You were talking about the witness who filmed the raid on your house, the footage which you feature in your documentary.
02:25:30.000He later died of mysterious circumstances, is that correct?
02:25:33.000Yes, the very neighbor who filmed the raid, who realized that the agents noticed him during the filming, he was extremely terrified of the situation and when he finally came to me with the tape, he was literally shaking.
02:25:49.000He said he was very worried about handing it over, but finally decided to do it because it was the right thing to do.
02:25:56.000And he wrote a statement where he also described what he witnessed, described the agents taking boxes out of the house when they didn't even have a search warrant, and they later tried to deny taking things.
02:26:11.000Only weeks after turning the tape over to us, the neighbor, Matthew Judd, who was only 25 years old, was suddenly found dead in his home.
02:26:23.000And he was alone, just found on his couch, and years later, there still hadn't been a proper investigation.
02:26:30.000His death certificate says that the disposition is pending, and there is no coherent explanation as to what exactly happened to this young man.
02:26:42.000Like I said, this story is documented in the movie that you just premiered in LA, is that correct?
02:26:47.000Yes, we started our theatrical release in New York and then I was followed by Los Angeles and we just finished that portion of the theatrical rollout.
02:27:01.000Exactly, because this is going to the big screens.
02:27:03.000The big boys are going to see this, and this is great, because y'all had the connections, y'all had the willpower, you had the means and the tools and the willpower to make this movie and put it out there for people to see what this government is capable of.
02:27:17.000Julia, we only have about two minutes, I'm sorry, but we need to get to another crucial point of your story, is the death of Brittany Murphy.
02:27:29.000It possibly could have been because Brittany was named as a witness in my case.
02:27:33.000One of the 54 investigations against me included the Department of Homeland Security claiming that Brittany Murphy told them that I was working on a film with my husband during the same time when I was working for Homeland Security.
02:27:48.000And Brittany confirmed that that was a lie, that she never made such a statement.
02:27:53.000And as soon as she refuted Homeland Security's Allegations her life became a living nightmare.
02:28:00.000She reported this to the Hollywood press that she was being followed that helicopters were following her and they mocked her and Then she died under very mysterious circumstances a healthy young actress God knows Hollywood stars have a very low shelf life But she was not involved in in the lifestyle that would that would contribute to that and she winds up dead and so does her husband Yes, because she reported to the Hollywood Reporter which printed a story called The Less Difficult Days of Brittany Murphy.
02:28:27.000She had told Alex Van Block of the Hollywood Reporter that she was being followed by helicopters and is wiretapped and she was made fun of and called paranoid or being on drugs and had lost jobs because of that and her career spiraled out of control.
02:28:46.000The Homeland Security tried to deport her husband Just the way they tried to deport me.
02:29:03.000And they also were planning to bring marriage fraud charges against Brittany and Simon that we recently found that out through FOIA requests.
02:34:07.000For those of you who don't know, GOA is the only no-compromise gun lobby working in Congress to preserve your gun rights.
02:34:17.000Now, you can give the NRA some credit.
02:34:20.000But you can't give it too much, and you can criticize the NRA a lot for caving on a lot of crucial gun control legislation, compromising where compromise was not needed nor necessary.
02:34:35.000Some have even accused the NRA of being kind of the gatekeepers of the money that goes to fund gun rights in this country.
02:34:43.000But if anything, the GOA is the real deal.
02:34:46.000If you want a no compromise gun lobby, look up GOA, look up Larry Pratt, the longtime head.
02:34:51.000He was on Alex Jones Show last night, and he's saying, and Larry Pratt's a pretty mainstream guy, and he put his neck out there.
02:35:13.000I would have disagreed with you before Fast and Furious because I never in my wildest fears would have thought that our government would actually premeditatedly kill some 400 Mexicans have been murdered and a couple of our U.S.
02:35:29.000So after we caught them planning premeditatedly for a program that would get people murdered, One of the whistleblowers submitted a report on weekly briefings at ATF, and when the head of the ATF at the time would be given the increase in body counts in Mexico, he would say things like, good, the program's working.
02:36:00.000Well, if our government would do that, then even though I think the evil of the human heart is sufficient to account for somebody that wants to go and shoot people at random, We've had, since we've been keeping records in this country, this has happened every few years since the 1870s.
02:36:16.00010, 20, 30 people being murdered at a time.
02:36:18.000By the way, long before semi-automatics were available to people.
02:36:23.000So this is what human beings are capable of.
02:36:26.000And now we have to admit that Maybe this is something that our government is capable of because this is only 12 people murdered.
02:36:36.000They were good for 400 in Fast and Furious!
02:37:01.000Fast and Furious, boy, there's Eric Holder, affiliated with the Oklahoma City case, covered up.
02:37:08.000And his entourage and his office staff covered up the Kenny Trinidad murder, brutal torture murder.
02:37:12.000Yes, we talk about that in The Noble Lie, the murder of Kenny Trinidad, Eric Holder made his bones covering that up and now he's in charge of Fast and Furious.
02:37:19.000The very same gun shop in Arizona that actually tried to get a case out which preceded Fast and Furious in Arizona, Jesse Trinidad, Kenny's brother, found this out through FOIA requests and documents that it's the same gun shop in 1995.
02:37:36.000Weren't able to get the resources together.
02:37:38.000And they finally made it work within the last four years.
02:37:41.000You have border patrol agents, innocent civilians on both sides of the border, brutally murdered with weapons that the United States government shipped into Mexico to have at the hands of disposable of gangs and Mexican drug cartels.
02:37:54.000Yeah, and you have Larry Pratt saying this is not a sting gone bad.
02:38:00.000There is no way to account for weapons after they go across the border, and they're shipping them across the border.
02:38:05.000And the emails from the prosecutor's office of the Arizona Federal Prosecutor's Office have come out, and they are openly saying they are going to use the gun violence that is being fanned by the weapons from Fast and Furious Put this in context, people.
02:38:20.000We have Eric Holder, our Attorney General.
02:38:35.000We have Eric Holder, our attorney general.
02:38:36.000He was the deputy attorney general in Oklahoma City.
02:38:39.000And there is no love lost between our film crew and this animal for what he did in Oklahoma City on that case.
02:38:45.000That's not even up for debate anymore.
02:38:47.000Then you have Hillary Clinton, our Secretary of State, and President Calderon from Mexico, knowing full well that this operation was going down, calling for the ban of guns in the United States when it had nothing to do with it.
02:38:58.000That doesn't get any more insidious than that.
02:39:01.000Yeah, and the argument's ridiculous in itself because Mexico, the country, has some of the strictest gun control restrictions on the planet.
02:39:08.000In fact, it's in their constitution that citizens are now not allowed to own a firearm more powerful than that used by the police or military.
02:39:15.000So at least they're very apparent in their purpose of gun control that literally the citizens cannot fight back.
02:39:21.000Yet we have open warfare on the streets of the border towns in Mexico, largely fanned by the largest gun smuggler in American history.
02:39:29.000The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.
02:39:31.000And applying that standard to what's happening in Colorado, we cannot put anything past this government.
02:39:37.000And that is even seeping over into the mainstream.
02:39:59.000Emergency crews hadn't left the scene of the Colorado Theater shooting before a lot of lawmakers, politicians, and members of the media were already asking questions about how gun laws have to change.
02:40:11.000But what questions about the shooting are the media not asking?
02:41:41.000So our second question, where did this graduate student in neuroscience learn how to make a series of bombs so complicated that the FBI took two days to figure out how to disarm them?
02:41:51.000One official said the intricacy of these bombs is something rarely seen outside of war zones.
02:41:57.000He had a tripwire set behind the door to kill anyone who opened it.
02:42:01.000And yet, after setting this intricate death trap, decides to warn police about it before someone's killed?
02:42:10.000Neither does what police are saying about this being a lone wolf attack.
02:42:14.000All the evidence we have, every single indicator is that this was, this is all Mr. Holmes' activity and that he wasn't particularly aided by anyone else.
02:42:23.000Eyewitness reports from the scene indicate that Holmes got a phone call from someone inside the theater.
02:42:29.000And also, that tear gas was thrown from more than one location.
02:42:33.000He got a phone call, and most people when they get phone calls in theaters, they go straight out into the lobby to answer it.
02:42:38.000This person went directly to the emergency exit.
02:42:43.000He had his foot propped open by the door and from the crack, it looked like he was signaling somebody or looking for somebody to come his way.
02:42:50.000As I was sitting down to get my seat, I noticed that a person came up to the front road, to the front right, sat down.
02:42:56.000And as credits were going, I noticed it seemed like he got a phone call.
02:43:01.000So he went out towards the emergency exit doorway, which I thought was unusual to take a phone call.
02:43:09.000He had someone with him because the second can of tear gas didn't come from his side.
02:43:14.000So what you need to know is that there are so many questions about what really happened in Colorado.
02:43:19.000Questions we don't have answers to and we may never have answers to.
02:43:23.000What is unfortunate is that instead of really digging into why this apartment would be rigged to kill, but then Holmes would then warn police, and then lawyer up and not say anything else, where he got the funding and the firearms training?
02:43:35.000And these eyewitness reports that there was more than one person?
02:43:37.000Yeah, instead of asking those questions, national media want to focus all their attention on why guns were legal in the first place.
02:43:45.000National media seems too busy playing the political game, not busy enough looking into what really happened.
02:45:00.000Yeah, and like I said before, the point I emphasized before, these events are happening in these heavily militarized counties.
02:45:05.000Aurora had just made headlines, Judge Napolitano called them out for pulling up that impromptu checkpoint at an intersection and pulling out dozens of people, families, approaching them barrel first to track down a bank robbery suspect.
02:45:19.000This is a flagrant violation of the Fourth Amendment by any stretch of the imagination.
02:45:45.000It's just amazing that what we have shown on this show, on our debut guest host of the Alex Jones Show, is the depths of what this government is proven to go to to push forth a political agenda.
02:45:57.000We talked to Andrew Griffin and Stephanie Sledge about Tucson and about the Colorado shooting.
02:46:02.000We talked to Julia Davis about her case, unrelated except in methodology, except in the same method they used to prosecute, persecute, to murder witnesses.
02:46:26.000How is this person able to purchase 6,000 rounds of ammunition in a short period of time?
02:46:31.000Without being paid a visit by the ATF like someone I have talked to in the state of Oklahoma who was paid a visit by the ATF when he decided to take advantage of a price decrease and cash in some savings and buy a bunch of ammo.
02:47:22.000That's what we see time and time again is the local news affiliates really picking up on the truth.
02:47:26.000We saw this in Oklahoma City when KFR-TV was reporting on John Doe No.
02:47:31.0002 and the other bombs being pulled out of the rubble.
02:47:33.000They did that for about a year until they were bought out by the New York Times and everyone was fired and they stopped all that reporting.
02:47:38.000So you see these outlets trying to get the truth out and then you see it, the methodology, the cover-up come in.
02:47:51.000We've had a lot of different topics, but we had to get this information out.
02:47:56.000I urge you, if you want to find out the true method, the true methodology of deep state, deep state false flag terror attacks, go to the Info Shop.
02:48:07.000Check out the movie we produced on NobleLie.com.
02:48:10.000Like I said before, the purpose of the movie was just not to expose the Oklahoma City bombing.
02:48:40.000And the thing with Oklahoma City is that people can look at this evidence with an objective eye because they're not scared about it anymore.
02:48:47.000They're not scared about Oklahoma City.
02:48:50.000But they can view this evidence, realize what this government is capable of, and view current events in that lens.
02:48:57.000You buy the movie, you support Infowars.com, the staff that works here, and we've been here, this is our third time in the last two and a half years.
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02:49:10.000We know for a fact that they're behind the scenes making sure that the news that you listen to and that you watch on Parasite Planet TV is vetted, is genuine, and is the real McCoy.
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02:50:44.000That's very important to know these days when home ownership is going to be a thing of the past, especially when the economy tanks goes downtown after the election.
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02:54:28.000He is a co-producer on A Noble Lie, and we're also working on our next project, a treatment of mind control called State of Mind, The Psychology of Control.
02:56:46.000This is my first time calling and I loved the talk with Julia and also with Stephanie.
02:56:56.000I have a large following on my Facebook page.
02:57:00.000Some people send me certain things and a couple things I haven't heard yet regarding the events happening and I'd like your comments regarding the Illuminate Card Game.
02:57:10.000The Illuminate Card Game has pictures of certain events that are happening and somebody sent me a picture of the cinema Happening, you know the event that happened at the theater and also the upcoming events in the Olympics in England like you comment on that That's a very long involved answer for those of you for those of you listening who want to do homework on what you brought up Where should they go?