On today's show, Alex Jones is joined by Mark Fomber and Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America (GOAA) to talk about the end of the world, the impending collapse of the financial system and the rise of Big Brother.
00:00:50.000I've gone and studied their prophecies.
00:00:52.000Not that I put any stop to begin with.
00:00:56.000But I just thought about, wow, 2012, TikTok, it is long in the tooth, as I like to say.
00:01:03.000Okay, here is what Mark Fomber, who's been a guest on this show before, and I'm gonna pull out all the stops, guys, to call him, to Skype him, to email him, to all the producers, attacked.
00:03:11.000In hindsight, now that I've thought about it, because it turns out they're doing this all over the place where national parks surround major cities, and you've got to go through them to get to Tucson, Arizona, unless you want to go 100 miles out of the way through circuitous routes.
00:03:27.000Uh, she wanted to go through the pass.
00:03:28.000They're there like robbers of old at the pass.
00:03:44.000It's not highwaymen, it's government bureaucrats there wanting to search your car and inspect your legal and lawful guns and then order you to do things that are illegal.
00:03:53.000We're going to be breaking more of that down and also gun sales again soaring after Barack Obama's re-election to an all-time turbocharged level.
00:04:00.000And we've got Larry Pratt joining us of Gun Owners of America.
00:04:05.000via video skype uh... and he is going to be uh... joining us in the third hour today all things second amendment and giving you a uh... over-the-horizon view of how they're gonna come after the second amendment and then boy they're announcing they are they're blowing their trumpets they're banging their war drums boom boom boom boom boom boom i mean it's coming we can see the campfires and the enemies letting us know what's up dr steve puchinnik he knows Petraeus he said that uh...
00:04:34.000You know, the whole Benghazi thing was a setup.
00:04:37.000We'll get his take as well coming up in the second hour.
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00:08:14.000Living on the edge, my friends. - You're gonna have to.
00:08:20.000There is no doubt that that is happening.
00:08:22.000We have a corrupt, out-of-control, globalist bureaucracy, where the most corrupt are being promoted to the highest positions of power, and then over time, even more corrupt individuals replace them.
00:08:38.000It is a system where the most evil, the most cunning, the most manipulative are able to get into control.
00:08:48.000And that is what we are facing right now.
00:08:52.000We have seen this cyclical situation over and over again throughout history.
00:08:56.000Here's what we've got coming up on the transmission today.
00:09:00.000Consummate State Department, Black Ops insider, Dr. Steve Pucinich.
00:09:05.000You can just search in his name, mainstream newspapers, you know, reporting on him running foreign assassination teams.
00:09:12.000Psych warfare operations hostage rescue negotiations the Camp David Accords between Egypt and Israel that were successful the only time they've ever had a peace deal, a lasting peace deal.
00:09:29.000He was there running psychological operations to get that done.
00:09:34.000I don't, you know, completely obviously sit here and just absolutely buy everything he says out of hand because it is all cloak and dagger.
00:09:45.000But he says he's got the scoop on what's really going on with Petraeus.
00:09:50.000Uh, and he also says he has a scoop on Benghazi.
00:09:52.000Now that doesn't mean I totally agree with him.
00:09:54.000Because when I know what's going on with something, I'll tell you.
00:09:58.000When I still haven't figured out exactly what's going on, I know Obama's lying.
00:10:37.000They lied day one and said it was a group of protesters.
00:10:41.000The CIA torture base down the street was ordered to stand down for seven hours.
00:10:46.000Two Navy SEALs inside the CIA refused to go along with the Orders to stand down and went and fought for hours and got killed.
00:11:01.000But it doesn't mean that I'm saying he's wrong either.
00:11:04.000I just need to get some of this in perspective from his position.
00:11:08.000And I know that Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer, Anthony Schaefer, who's been on many times and been proven to be very, very accurate, he says it's a hit on the ambassador.
00:11:23.000Ambassador Stevens, but he says he doesn't know who did it, what faction in the government, but clearly Obama is lying.
00:11:31.000So Tarpley says it's a neocon hit, or Mormon Mafia hit as he calls it, which is pretty ridiculous.
00:11:39.000I mean, just use the term Mormon Mafia because the Mormon Mafia is from a group of Mormons hired by non-Mormon.
00:11:46.000It's literally, it may have been Mormon.
00:11:47.000You know, the big CIA guy who was involved in all those different clandestine operations, Howard Hughes.
00:12:05.000You've got different senators and house members in the news calling for a new Watergate investigation.
00:12:14.000So we're going to be breaking all of that down and more with Steve Pichenning.
00:12:18.000And then we do have Larry Pratt coming on the transmission, head of Gun Owners of America, the second largest Second Amendment group in the country, who's basically forced the NRA to stop supporting gun control.
00:12:29.000NRA supported 68 Gun Control Act that's been used against everybody, not just felons.
00:12:35.000And let the Feds get control of our Second Amendment to a great extent.
00:12:38.000And of course crime exploded in the aftermath in the cities where they banned guns, like Chicago and New York.
00:12:44.000He's going to be able to break down the full flotilla of attacks on our Second Amendment that are coming, not just legislatively through fraudulent law, but by rulemaking.
00:12:55.000The ATF has promised, if Obama got re-elected, to go forward with its rule You can just type in ATF takes public comments on banning shotguns.
00:13:05.000All semi-auto shotguns that can take clips or be altered to do it, they're saying they're going to ban outside of the law.
00:13:12.000And a lot more of that is coming up with Larry Pratt in the third hour today.
00:13:22.000That said, I have given Obama supporters Last Friday and yesterday, on the Monday show, a chance to call in to tell me why Obama was a good guy.
00:13:34.000And they say, you're a guy lost, you're a racist.
00:13:36.000I'm like, but I really wasn't a supporter of Romney, but his rhetoric was better.
00:13:40.000The fact that America, at least on the surface, if you believe the electronic voting machines, there's a lot of evidence of fraud, endorsed Romney, shows how far gone we are.
00:13:49.000I agree with Ron Paul's statement, who joined us last Friday, on that issue.
00:13:59.000And they just showed their utter mindlessness, their political tribalism, just like Republicans would support Bush with torture, secret arrest, open borders, NAFTA GATT expansion, North American Union.
00:14:15.000They'd say, but he's a Republican, shut up liberal.
00:14:17.000And I'd say, I'm not a liberal because I'm against Bush trying to reauthorize the assault weapons ban like he did in 2005.
00:15:23.000And then we've got a whole compilation of videos we're going to put on the Nightly News tonight with Aaron Dykes of different black people saying, let's get rid of these nappy-headed black kids and statements like that.
00:15:43.000I want to give everybody a chance to call in, first-time callers though, here today.
00:15:47.000Obama supporters, people that are upset about Obama being elected, people that think it's great because things are going to get worse a lot faster now.
00:15:57.000You know, kind of that theory of let the kid have the fever so they break the fever.
00:16:01.000You have a fever to kill the bacteria, to kill the viruses, to slow down their replication, putting them into that, you know, hotter environment.
00:16:18.000It's time to wake up and really realize how much trouble we're in.
00:16:22.000As they say, wake up and smell the coffee.
00:16:28.000Well, that is the best time of waking up, I will tell you.
00:16:30.000It's time to wake up and smell the deep tyranny, and the road we're going down is very bad, because here's the bottom line, and then I'm going to get into the latest on San Diego residents face six years in prison for washing their cars.
00:17:13.000And then we're going to get more into drivers questioned at federal checkpoints with Larry Pratt, as I mentioned.
00:17:20.000Petitions to secede are filed for 23 states since election.
00:17:25.000And in a matter of hours, the Houston Chronicle reports, 25,000 Texans, it's like 50,000 by now.
00:17:31.000It was 40-something thousand this morning, so I'm guessing where it is now.
00:17:34.00025,000 Texans in a matter of hours signed the petition
00:17:40.000uh... for secession and that's actually in the constitution in the federal law the state's created the federal government so it's the united states not the the states under the federal government itself run by foreign banks so now they're moving in that direction more and more and you will see more calls for this as the tyranny increases and when Obama tries to go after the guns you will see official moves not to secede but to annul and use nullification at the state level to block unconstitutional
00:18:10.000Uh, federal activity, and that's why they've been, uh, billing and selling, uh, the entire time, uh, the idea that Obama is Lincoln.
00:18:25.000And that he is going to, you know, shut everybody down and romanticizing Lincoln and all these movies and fantasy shows and Abraham Lincoln Vampire Slayer and Time Magazine and Newsweek.
00:18:48.000And we're also going to be getting into Rupert Murdoch gleeful at BBC debacle in Britain, the giant pedophile scandal that the police are busy covering up as usual.
00:18:57.000You know, they're saying that the voice of Elmo has gotten in trouble for having sex with a young boy.
00:19:09.000That's what's being alleged, and it's just par for the course.
00:19:14.000Watching Sesame Street, just my perv, people say they have gaydar.
00:19:19.000I don't so much have gaydar, I have pervertdar.
00:19:23.000And I mean, I'll just be honest, my pervert dar when I see Hayden, the former head of the NSA, I mean, just just pegs, just pegs that I would walk to the side of the street if I saw Hayden walking down it.
00:19:34.000And I got to say about unless it's guest hosting people, you know, some of the main characters, you know, I'm talking about on there.
00:19:43.000Just absolutely, my pervert radar, my Danger Will Robinson radar goes way off the chart.
00:19:49.000We'll be right back with the big Petraeus news that could become Obama's Watergate.
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00:24:27.000Nobody seemed to know where John called home He just drifted into town and stayed all alone Didn't say much, kinda quiet and shy But he spoke it all, he just said hi to baby John Somebody said he came from New Orleans where he got in a fight over a Cajun queen and a crashing blow from a huge right hand sent a Louisiana fella to the promised land, Big John.
00:24:53.000We are back live ladies and gentlemen.
00:24:56.000I am your host Alex Jones again coming up.
00:24:58.000Dr. Steve Pachanik, former State Department head of Psychological Operations.
00:25:03.000Larry Pratt, head of Gunners America, also joining us.
00:25:07.000And before I get briefly into the Petraeus thing, because we'll revisit it more in the next hour, I'll give you what I think is going on there.
00:25:13.000I mean, we know what's going on to a certain extent.
00:25:14.000We don't know the whole story or the rest of the story.
00:25:17.000The media is, of course, playing out a facade for people.
00:25:21.000But before I do that, let me give you the number out, as I was mentioning earlier, since I haven't done that yet, because that's the cue to open the phones up.
00:25:27.000We're opening the phones right now for first-time callers, whether you love the Obama election Whether you think it's a great thing, a bad thing, and where you see this country going and what you think's going to happen when they try to make you turn in all your semi-automatic rifles and handguns, as they're now announcing they're going to try to do.
00:25:42.000Even outside law, they just say they're going to try to do it.
00:25:48.000You understand, we've been infiltrated and taken over by foreign megabanks that use socialism to get the majority of the people on the take, on the dole, so they'll sell out their birthright of freedom for nothing.
00:26:55.000But when you really get into it and it's your whole life, you're a joke.
00:27:00.000And it's the same thing with these people who don't have any national pride, any family pride, any cultural pride, any religious pride, any business pride.
00:27:11.000They just have pride about their sports team.
00:27:12.000And it's the exact type of looniness I see with these Obama supporters.
00:27:16.000So I'd like to hear from people on all this.
00:27:18.000The toll-free number to join us is 800-259-9231.
00:27:41.000Not listen to a word I said, reading teleprompter points that were regurgitated by the media, which they have mental talking points on, just regurgitating the same thing over and over again, saying, aha, your guy lost.
00:28:16.000The Democratic Party of the Ku Klux Klan literally look into it.
00:28:19.000It says if you're white, you're history.
00:28:23.000I mean, this is the type of incredible garbage, the Obama conquest.
00:28:28.000How about, it should say, the New World Order conquest, the banker conquest.
00:28:32.000Well, you know, when you read the Financial Times of London, or even Time Magazine, or Newsweek and previous articles, they say, The Bank of the World has conquered us.
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00:33:50.000Now, I want to get in briefly into the Petraeus News as a prelude to what's coming up in the next hour, and then go to your phone calls at 800-259-9231.
00:34:00.000My son, who's 10 years old, and I'm not just saying this because he's my son, I will put him on air soon, he's going to be part of the news team here, because he keeps begging to do it, and because I was reading history books and things when I was 10, but I wasn't half as informed as he already is.
00:34:51.000I knew that, but I heard the rebroadcast later and it was wrong.
00:34:54.000So occasionally the type of mistakes I make are blaring.
00:34:58.000And I was conflating the story of Cain and Abel, where one brother killed the other, and my son was smart enough... He wasn't on the on-air mic, though, was he?
00:35:09.000He was on the conference mic where you guys talked to me?
00:35:12.000He was on the conference mic, correct?
00:35:32.000So, son, I'm not going to say your name yet.
00:35:35.000I'm not ready to destroy your innocence yet and throw you into the shark pit.
00:35:40.000But we're, you know, no guts, no glory.
00:35:42.000Fortune favors the bold, and our fortune is liberty that we're looking for.
00:35:46.000So, you want in the shark tank, we're going to... I was going to put him in the shark tank a few months ago, here on the air, because he really wants to do it.
00:36:25.000Well, Dad, if you look at the Bible, you got it right that they do get into a big fight, but his mom gets him out of there before Esau can bash his brains out.
00:36:38.000And also, you got it right about the soup.
00:37:27.000It was over, actually, a sacrifice to God.
00:37:33.000Because God was pleased with Abel's sacrifice because it was a flesh and blood sacrifice and not Cain's sacrifice because it was actually a fruit and vegetable sacrifice.
00:37:44.000You see, Cain was a farmer and Abel was a shepherd.
00:37:47.000By the way, Wes in there is a big Bible guy, goes to church multiple times a week, reads the Bible with his children every day, and he's in there nodding his head.
00:37:56.000I mean, the crews here, they saw my son just came, knew how to hit the button and talk to me on air, I guess from watching, took over the show, and now during the break I said, well go ahead and officially come on the air then and correct us.
00:38:40.000No, no, that was the kid that came later.
00:38:42.000See, my problem is I've got to revisit the Bible, because I know this news stuff, but now when it comes to the Bible, it's all just mixed together.
00:39:29.000Yeah, and he was hungry, and he saw Jacob stirring soup, and Jacob was very clever, while his brother was very pretty much stupid, and he tricked Esau into trading the soup for his birthright.
00:39:45.000Alright, well thank you so much for that story.
00:39:49.000Again, this is unscripted and you've done a great job.
00:39:52.000Guys, you see why he's going to do so good on air?
00:39:54.000I mean, first time, boom, correcting Alex Jones on air.
00:39:58.000But hey, with great power comes great responsibility.
00:43:35.000You know, I used an example of this yesterday in September.
00:43:39.000CJ said most people probably didn't get it.
00:43:40.000They probably haven't seen Dune, the movie, which is a shadow of the incredible book by Frank Herbert, that if you know politics and the Illuminati and the New World Order, that guy was definitely an insider of some type.
00:43:51.000I want to get Frank Herbert's son on sometime, if you can do that.
00:43:55.000But the point is, he's a good writer too, but nothing compared to his dad, I've got to be honest.
00:44:00.000You know, it's like, more like pulp fiction.
00:44:02.000I guess they're just churning them out.
00:44:03.000I guess his dad churned out some too, but the point is that one book, you know, on how intrigue and conspiracies operate, Baron Harkonnen has these heart plugs, and that's in the movie, it's actually not in the book, where if he's upset with you, you just, don't worry, everyone gets a...
00:44:58.000Oh, these people know they're compromised.
00:45:01.000You have to go be compromised to be sent up the ladder of ascension into the New World Order barony of being a high-level minion.
00:45:11.000You know, the real power structure, you never hear about them.
00:45:16.000And again, Judge Napolitano is asking, what were FBI agents doing monitoring Petraeus' private emails?
00:45:21.000The CIA director has the FBI spying on him over a girlfriend that sent stuff saying, I'm watching you and you better watch it, hussy.
00:45:32.000You know, running around here on the base is basically what she said.
00:45:35.000Oh my gosh, let's spy on the CIA director.
00:45:39.000I mean, the Congress, the Congress is told what it wants to know about what the CIA director is doing, that it's above their security clearance, when Congress funds the CIA and everything else, and it's the highest level even above the President.
00:45:50.000So things have gotten totally backwards, but we're to believe the FBI was spying on the CIA director.
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00:53:53.000life's getting better okay let's try these phone calls again um First-time callers, I want your take on the state of the world, where you see the economy going.
00:54:21.000Mark Fobber, top economist researcher, right up there with Jim Romgers, says, prepare for a massive market meltdown.
00:54:28.000Well, yeah, staged just like 08, to hold everyone hostage.
00:54:33.000Max Keiser predicted it, I predicted it, Gerald Solente predicted it, Bob Chapman, before he died, predicted it, because they do the same tricks.
00:54:39.000They do it in the third world, they did it here in 08, We're going to be talking about that coming up as well.
00:54:45.000But they're going to hold everybody hostage and say, oh, we got to raise carbon taxes, VAT to pay, so that all the welfare queens get their money.
00:54:54.000And really, it's going to go to bank or bailouts, but the welfare queens will say, yeah, I deserve some more money.
00:55:23.000I've had many experiences that are bad.
00:55:26.000First of all, I'm a black woman and I have had so many problems with my family And my friends, black, white, Latino, all my friends think I'm insane for what I've been trying to show them and tell them.
00:55:41.000I've had the most terrible experiences with TSA.
00:55:44.000The woman went completely into my vagina this last time.
00:56:02.000It's why I cannot fly because now they will demand to grab your children, even if you say no and want to leave now, and drag them to the pervert assault room.
00:56:37.000You say you're from the old school when Hispanics, blacks, whites, everybody, even the poorest people, did everything they could to walk upright.
00:57:38.000Oh yeah, there are now federal police all over the country just setting up checkpoints, searching vehicles from Tennessee to Arizona in the middle of the country.
00:57:48.000And sometimes they have Army there or Marines with heavy machine guns on the news aiming them at your cars.
00:57:54.000And they'll have police just set up a checkpoint and just aim M-16s at families.
00:58:00.000And I mean, let me tell you something.
00:58:01.000I'm driving along, and I'm pulling up.
00:58:04.000It's one thing if the car matches a description, it looks like it, and they're saying, get out of the car.
00:58:08.000No, they aim them at everybody as an act of domination.
00:58:12.000And let me tell you, I'm going to get upset by that.
00:58:13.000I mean, look, it's going to be just like 1776.
00:58:15.000They're going to push, and they're going to push, and they're going to push, because they're a bunch of delusional perverts.
00:58:22.000If they're not up there with a bunch of whores on board the jet aircraft, the military, at least the military is with women, Hey, most of these politicians are in there literally raping little kids.
00:58:31.000We're dealing with a cult of gang rapers.
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01:01:10.000You know, I was thinking, maybe this, before I get on my Obamunoid pushing, Obamunism statement, possibly this Petraeus thing could be a blessing in disguise.
01:01:23.000Maybe, you know, start some things up.
01:01:27.000Possibly get Obama maybe in some trouble?
01:01:30.000Well my gut is, this is what they did with Nixon and others, when somebody goes into a second term, they're dangerous to even the establishment because they're not facing re-election.
01:01:38.000And if a president ever tried to actually act like a president, and not just a total puppet, they have to assassinate him.
01:01:44.000But they don't like that either, because people won't buy that anymore, like Kennedy.
01:01:47.000So instead what they do is they destroy it with a scandal.
01:01:50.000But they don't like scandals that deal with corporate corruption.
01:01:54.000So they usually get you with a sex scandal, like Clinton and Monica Lewinsky.
01:01:58.000And again, I was no fan of Bill Clinton, but that was all part and parcel of that.
01:02:01.000The Republicans wouldn't go after him, you know, for the missile secrets of Laura Allen Hughes, the Communist Chinese, or the death of Commerce Secretary Ron Brown.
01:02:11.000They went after him on a sex thing, because that's isolated to just that.
01:02:15.000And that's probably what's going to end up happening here.
01:02:18.000I think it's a balance of power thing.
01:03:30.000Yeah, well, you know, it doesn't make sense that the average person... I mean, your son is more intelligent than 90% of the people in this country.
01:03:38.000And, you know, these guys, they could kill, we kill, we go to jail.
01:03:42.000They could sell drugs, we sell drugs, we go to jail.
01:03:45.000They could push away vaccines, we push away vaccines on our kids, they have CPS come snatch up our children.
01:03:52.000You know, and it's trickled down to the people, and you have, you know, I live in the Bronx.
01:04:10.000And people forget, when Planned Parenthood was created, they used people who were the black faces of the society movements, and used them to push their eugenics on the black society.
01:04:46.000We're going to air it soon where there's black folks saying, yeah, kill the little nappy head black kids, because it's this idea of kill somebody, I'll get more.
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01:08:31.000twelve We are seeing massive geopolitical movements worldwide.
01:08:39.000We are seeing incredible movements inside the military-industrial complex.
01:08:44.000What you're seeing from my perspective, we'll get Dr. Pucinich's take on this, is soft power coups going on back and forth.
01:08:52.000You have the FBI on record And even Judge Andrew Napolitano is saying this is clearly illegal unconstitutional spying on the CIA director without warrants because another woman who was involved in the Hospitality, a volunteer at the Special Forces Command Basis.
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01:09:51.000But I remember just a few days after the Benghazi situation, we had Dr. Steve Pchenik on, who is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
01:10:00.000He confronted a few months ago the Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Dempsey at the CFR and said, you know, that he needed to go public and say, don't attack Iran, that later even came out in the news months after he talked about it.
01:10:15.000And to his credit, Dempsey went public and said it's a suicide mission.
01:10:19.000Just as many as the Israelis are saying it's going to be a catastrophe, including the former Mossad chief.
01:10:24.000Instead of using soft power against Iran, some want to go to this larger regional war that will probably lead to a third world war, at least conventional world war.
01:11:59.000So that backs up some of what he's saying.
01:12:01.000But I don't get, and we're going to walk through this here today, I want him to give us the big picture first and simplify it, then get into more details.
01:12:08.000I don't get If it's some type of internal false flag, October surprise against Obama, because certain power structures wanted to control the military industrial complex trough, and wanted a hot war against Iran, why Obama stood down, why he lied about it, why he gave the press conferences, why the U.S.
01:12:28.000ambassador to the U.N., Rice, shed On all the different news shows that Sunday after it happened, the day after, that it was just a protest gone wrong.
01:12:36.000Why the cover-up if it was a black op against him?
01:12:42.000Okay, and now why are they purging Petraeus?
01:12:45.000Why are they purging the head of AFRICON?
01:12:47.000Why are they purging who was over Benghazi?
01:12:50.000Why are they purging the head of the Afghanistan operation?
01:12:54.000This is all happening, all connected to this one woman.
01:13:05.000And Dr. Pachinik, again, is an MD, PhD, and American psychiatrist, trained and served under Kissinger, former State Department official, author, and publisher.
01:13:13.000He, of course, has co-written many of the Tom Clancy books.
01:13:16.000He's been turned into major movies and TV shows and series.
01:13:19.000He's a critically acclaimed author of psycho-political thrillers and co-creator of the best-selling Tom Clancy's Op Center and NetForce, just to name a few.
01:13:26.000Trained in psychiatry at Harvard University, international relations at the same time, only got to have two degrees at the same time, MIT.
01:13:33.000His novels are based on over 20 years experience resolving international crises and hostage situations for the Department of State for Foreign Administration, Steve Pachinick.com.
01:13:42.000Notice he's revamped and upgraded his site, looks really good.
01:13:46.000And of course, if you really look up his name, he's been involved in overthrows of governments, using psych warfare to get people to kill.
01:13:53.000You know, we're talking about this on air, but the London Telegraph, if you can correct me if I'm wrong, says that he tricked the Communists into killing the Italian Prime Minister, things like that.
01:14:10.000You said that there were internal jockeying and things going on.
01:14:14.000I'd like to start with Petraeus and what's happening now, lead that into Benghazi, lead that into Bin Laden, and what the power structure's doing right now with the internal tectonic fissures.
01:14:25.000Dr. Pachanek, thank you for joining us.
01:14:27.000Thank you, Alex, for having me on the show.
01:14:31.000Basically, what Petraeus is doing is doing what all generals have done previously, is to basically fall on the sword of demolition, basically take himself out.
01:14:43.000Because he probably did not agree with the decision to General Dempsey, Panetta, and what I call the choir boys, the people who, Donald and Brandon, the President himself.
01:14:55.000What this really is, is an internal fight between what is the military,
01:15:02.000A culture which was rising, something I encourage, against the civilian culture which was really dominated by the CIA, an antiquated CIA, and it's been a power structure fight for a very, very long time, over 20 years, probably starting with back to the Bush Senior, going through the Clinton administration, where you have two different types of cultures trying to dominate our foreign policy.
01:15:28.000And it was much more Machiavellian than anybody realized.
01:15:33.000What you have is a CIA that's really dysfunctional, that is consisting of people who have never really been able to acclimate to the new world, to a world which has become more electronic, more precise, more incisive.
01:15:47.000And what happened is you have a lot of men who are in the 70s and 80s, Many of them were alcoholics who I treated.
01:15:54.000Many of them came out of the Catholic religion.
01:15:58.000People like Dempsey, who's the chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff, Brannon, Donnellan, all of whom really were not very qualified to run anything other than theories of past failures.
01:16:11.000Brannon, who's now the counterterrorism head, was in charge of the towers that blew up in
01:16:18.000Saudi Arabia, he's a totally incompetent station chief who's been an advisor to not only Clinton, but went through Bush Jr., was involved in 9-11, the original 9-11, and has created a total series of false narratives that the CIA has been very not effective in doing, including the 9-11 Osama bin Laden story, the Osama bin Laden raid, which was false, and now it finally came to the confrontation of Benghazi.
01:16:45.000Benghazi is really the The trigger point of the entire conflict between our U.S.
01:16:50.000military, which is a highly trained, very precise organization, which would not tolerate the ad hoc or the kind of willy-nilly efforts of the CIA to create all kinds of conflicts, and the incompetence of our civilian government, including Obama, including Hillary Clinton, We've had a history of men who have died all along the side who've allowed men to die.
01:17:32.000Listen, I'm going to give you the floor to get into all this, but just for listeners tuning in right now, I understand some of the background.
01:17:37.000You're talking to people out there in government, not just the audience.
01:17:59.000You've got to pull back, Alex, for a minute.
01:18:01.000The real picture now is what happens when you have a military that was led by Petraeus.
01:18:06.000Taking over the CIA and saying that you're going to have to now not work a loosey-goosey and out of control as you've been doing it for 20, 30 years, but you're going to be a militarized service.
01:18:17.000So what happened, a lot of the CIA is no longer what we have, civilians.
01:18:22.000We have really outsourced special forces who have been on contracts.
01:18:26.000So basically our entire covert operation institution has been contract officers who make a lot of money, $250,000, ex-special forces.
01:18:36.000And we have the military, who's been standing by and being told what to do and to go into areas that they don't want to create wars.
01:18:44.000For example, in Libya, there was no reason whatsoever to take down Gaddafi.
01:18:50.000There was no reason whatsoever to go into Syria, to take down Syria.
01:18:56.000So now it's purely about the payday and if they continue this, even if there's a corrupt power structure, there's not going to be an America left if these mercenaries continue to get in the way of the real, you know, national goals and national interest of this nation.
01:19:14.000The mercenaries was a problem that was brought up to me by the General, actually the Special Forces General ten years ago when he asked me who do I think would be the next Okay, Doc, we gotta go to break.
01:19:31.000Humor me when we come back and recap what you're really saying happened in Benghazi and then let's get into what's happening with Petraeus because clearly the FBI and the Justice Department is now spying on generals without warrants.
01:19:45.000This is some type of internal battle coup operation.
01:19:49.000I want you to put it in layman's terms.
01:19:51.000Talk to me like I'm six years old, Doc.
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01:24:05.000Okay, Dr. Steve Pachanek is our guest. Dr. Steve Pachanek is our guest.
01:24:28.000This is a short segment, long segment coming up.
01:24:30.000I just want to revisit this because you were on us a month or so ago.
01:24:34.000You said that it was an Israeli neocon coup from the information you had against The Obama administration, who you've been critical of, but you were saying there were all these internal power structure coups.
01:24:52.000I'd like to hear the evidence of that.
01:24:54.000Now in the aftermath, why would Obama then try to cover up?
01:25:31.000But I'm saying what's deeper, Dr. Pachetnik.
01:25:34.000So let's start at Benghazi, please, sir.
01:25:36.000Alright, Benghazi issue was a totally illegal operation which was signed off by the President of the United States who, remember, is part of the CIA.
01:25:51.000What you have here is the CIA versus the military conflict going on.
01:25:56.000And you have basically an out-of-control foreign policy that's run by mercenaries And by a military that refuses to engage in civilian intrusions into Libya and Syria.
01:26:10.000And what happened in Benghazi was that the ambassador Clearly murdered under the direction of Hillary Clinton, who has had a history of allowing people to die and men to die.
01:26:22.000So, the consulate was really used as a center for, as I said before, RPGs for torture.
01:26:28.000Now, they had the mercenaries, the SEALs, and several Libyan and other foreigners.
01:26:37.000In the embassy and the consulate, which was used to torture the victims.
01:26:42.000And basically, this was a totally illegal operation, which did have a finding.
01:26:47.000When I say it's illegal, it means it's illegal by the International Court of Law.
01:26:51.000It's illegal by using the embassy or consulate.
01:26:55.000So what you have here is Military fighting, the CIA basically, and the military coup that was beginning to say, we no longer want to listen to the President of the United States, we're tired of listening to the Bush's, we're tired of listening to Obama's, we're tired of listening to Panetta, who really had no credibility, and we were tired of listening to Dempsey, who I had warned a month before, as I told you, to count on foreign relations.
01:27:21.000Would you ever stand up to the President of the United States and in his lilting Irish kind of leprechaun abasiveness, he gave me such bullshit, I would have fired him then and there.
01:27:32.000But the real issue was that General Hamm, the career admiral in charge of a carrier task force, were watching their own men being killed.
01:27:42.000In a place where illegally the operation was not legal, but nevertheless, these were their soldiers, their special forces, and all over the world, we could monitor this for eight hours.
01:27:53.000No, no, and you said this a month ago, they had two drones over, so why don't the generals come out and say, you made us stand down and go public, because if what you're saying is right, and I agree that's where this is pointing, then they're going to end up killing these guys before they can come out and blow the whistle.
01:28:11.000Because we have created, and this is why it's important for our public to understand, and I've said it for a long time, we have created a general corps that is not consistent with what we had in World War II, when we had a George Marshall who would fire 600 generals in minutes and in hours because they would not stand forth.
01:28:30.000And instead of standing down, they should have never stood down.
01:28:35.000The rear admiral should never have stood down.
01:28:37.000None of them should have stood down because The SEAL teams that were in there, the special forces that were in there, were told that they would have overhead cover when they marked the entire consulate to say, look, we have to blow this up.
01:28:51.000And instead, what we've had is a military, which has wanted to assert power, has backed down because of several reasons.
01:28:58.000Number one, America has to understand our military now is a non-functional military.
01:29:03.000It is filled with generals who have never really been in war, who are really concerned about getting more medals and more positions, but have never asserted their aggressiveness or their war-like attitudes, which they should have.
01:29:18.000And basically they're making three million dollars when they leave the government and they go on to go to the L streets.
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01:33:28.000I have traveled around the world, and I'm telling you the United States is one of the best places to live, and my ancestors have been here on the Mayflower.
01:33:37.000And even longer, I'm part Native American, and I don't want to see my republic go into a complete tyranny.
01:34:19.000Local TV station mistakenly airs altered sexually suggestive version of Broadwell's book cover.
01:34:25.000This is a big battle inside government.
01:34:27.000They're talking about impeachment of Obama.
01:34:29.000They're talking about this being the new Watergate.
01:34:32.000We're going to cover it with Dr. Steve Pucinich of stevepucinich.com, a high-level former intelligence operator, head of psych warfare for the State Department, worked on peace deals with Of course, Egypt and Israel successfully, they're at Camp David, and he is, you know, giving us his inside scoop, member of the Council on Foreign Relations on what's happening.
01:34:54.000We're going back to him to give him the floor here in one moment to go out of Benghazi to the battle that's happening, where he sees it going, and why the generals didn't.
01:35:04.000Come out with this, because it's now confirmed the military sat there and watched.
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01:37:09.000We got 15 minutes left of the segment now.
01:37:11.000I'm going to stand down here, roll through it in layman's terms.
01:37:14.000Benghazi, What this signifies, where it's now going, why these generals are all leaving, what this signifies, you know, shouldn't they be speaking out?
01:37:23.000We know they sat there while those people were murdered.
01:37:29.000Number one, the Benghazi episode has been the culmination of illegal operations that have been done under the CIA with Petraeus, first with Panetta, who was DKI.
01:37:42.000And basically the CIA is no longer the CIA we knew about 10, 20 years ago where I had men who had worked for our country.
01:37:50.000They're basically mercenaries who have been hired out of special forces.
01:37:54.000They've been using drone attacks and killing many, many people.
01:37:59.000Panetta is seriously, should be impeached for war crimes.
01:38:02.000He was then brought into the military and really does not understand the military.
01:38:08.000He does not come from a military coach.
01:38:10.000The military did not accept Panetta's view of drone attacks.
01:38:16.000They have a much more sophisticated approach to the world.
01:38:22.000Unfortunately, the military watched a series of attacks occurring in Benghazi with an illegal operation.
01:38:30.000legal meaning literally it was illegal, using the cover of a consulate, which is an illegal cover, to use torture of Libyan prisoners and foreign prisoners, which we were interrogating repeatedly,
01:38:45.000and the CIA denied that, and was also supplying weapons and the CIA denied that, and was also supplying weapons into Syria in a misbegotten type of foreign policy, which was initiated by Hillary Clinton, Obama, Valerie Jarrett, and the people in the White House.
01:39:02.000So we've been running an incredible amount of secret wars under Obama, where normally we should have known about it.
01:39:09.000Our Congress has never covered it, and we have had more wars and covert operations under him than any other president I know of.
01:39:17.000And since he's come out of the CIA, he's run by the CIA, what you have here is a cultural clash Between military generals who refuse to continue to listen to civilian authority, and I have encouraged that through my lectures at the war colleges, my meetings with the generals, saying that at some point in time, you generals will have to stand up.
01:39:38.000Civilian leaders who led us into the war in Vietnam, who led us into the wars in Iraq, who led us into Afghanistan, you have performed poorly.
01:39:46.000You have performed exceedingly poorly.
01:39:48.000You have destroyed the integrity of the military and the army.
01:39:53.000These generals watched while their own men were being killed and said nothing.
01:40:03.000And instead, they were given the cover story by Dempsey, who's a total coward, someone I met, had total disrespect for, and Panetta, another coward who should be impeached and in the White House.
01:40:15.000And in turn, they were told to stand down.
01:40:17.000But what was happening in the middle of all of this Benghazi episode was the fact that not only was a Navy We were admiral and a carrier task force sent back, which is unheard of, and they were ready to protect our soldiers after seven hours of an attack where these special forces units were literally putting their lives on the line to say, look, save us.
01:40:39.000And they were told that they would be saved, but they weren't.
01:40:42.000Basically what happened is, this was an attempt by the White House, by Panetta, by all the men in the CIA from the old days, like Brannan, who should have been indicted for war criminals under 9-11, 2001, who's a continuing problem.
01:40:59.000Donilon, who should have been indicted for criminal activities under 9-11.
01:41:04.000And this is all a combination where the military did not do what they should have done, which was to refuse a civilian order and be treasonous as I have been repeatedly.
01:41:15.000Defied civilian order to save the lives of our military men.
01:41:18.000I'm ashamed of our military for having done that.
01:41:23.000But basically what's happened is that there was a fear in the White House, and a correct fear, that part of what I had been doing, and others had been doing, was to develop a military corps of generals, which Petraeus is part of, say that we will no longer follow civilian orders.
01:41:41.000Meaning that the civilians who've come to our president, Bush Jr., Uh, Clinton and Obama really know nothing about foreign policy.
01:41:50.000And the people who they picked, Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton, Samantha Powers, Brandon, all of these people are incompetent.
01:41:58.000They've had a history of incompetence and they're an idealized and they basically wanted to go into countries like Libya and overthrow Gaddafi, who was our ally for years and create stories that really were not even rational and claim that we would create an Arab Spring when in fact they had no solution as to what that meant and where that was going.
01:42:18.000And in Benghazi, this was the final point of where the military and the civilians, or the CIA, came to a clash of who was in charge.
01:42:28.000And it was clear that at this point in time, the President committed not only a legal act, but used the State Department as a cover for torture and extradition.
01:42:38.000As well as sending a weapon illegally into Syria on rebels where we have never declared war, but at the same time it was the clash to allow the civilians to get rid of all those generals who in any way could be defying the White House.
01:42:57.000This was the taking down of a real military coup to say, we've had enough.
01:43:04.000And unfortunately our military backed down.
01:43:07.000And they will pay a heavy price for it.
01:43:09.00014 other Navy commanders were dismissed during this period, and that was not written about.
01:43:16.000So that basically, the White House, under the direction of Brennan, who's a very dangerous CIA operative who was involved in 9-11, should have been indicted for criminal activities under the 2000 Act.
01:43:31.000And this gets into that specific issue.
01:43:35.000Now, the person who's missing in all of this and the most important person who's never been talked about is exactly the person you were talking about.
01:43:43.000And that's Mr. Bob Mueller, who for years I have warned that if he doesn't watch what he's doing, he should be under investigation and should be the one who's being investigated.
01:43:54.000Mueller has had a very, very, very dangerous history of having come in before 9-11, one week beforehand, appointed by Bush Jr.
01:44:04.000to head up the FBI, and knew very well that his involvement in 9-11, the stand-down and the false attack that we had, And basically, he was covering that up with the FBI agents.
01:44:34.000And I knew about O'Neill because John O'Neill was the CIA operative who was sent to New York and the head of counterintelligence to the CIA told me about him.
01:45:14.000But Mueller has to be investigated repeatedly for his involvement, not only in 9-11-2001 to cover up the criminal activities, but now illegal operations against the military, the CIA.
01:45:27.000And it harks back to the time of J. Edgar Hoover when he used the investigative powers of the FBI to illegally monitor not only President Nixon, which was an illegal monitor, by the way, but used the legal monitoring of every other political candidate and used that as a way to but used the legal monitoring of every other political candidate and used that as a way So the notion that the FBI has worked closely with the CIA or the military is fictitious as far as I'm concerned.
01:45:56.000For over 30 years when I've worked with the FBI or the CIA, they have been the most least cooperative group I've ever seen.
01:46:03.000In particular, they also make up their own storylines, which is absolutely amazing.
01:46:08.000I was involved in the Hanafi Muslim and they failed terribly.
01:46:16.000I threw out the President of the United States, Jimmy Carter, and warned him that if he would have come back into the room, I would have 500 hostages killed as he started it.
01:46:28.000At the same time, I committed treason when I overthrew someone in the Al-Namara kidnapping, and that's what we call a hard coup.
01:46:36.000There was no question that I overrode the CIA, overrode military orders, overrode civilian orders.
01:46:43.000But in my opinion, And at the directive of whoever it was, in my own opinion, I was able to do that.
01:46:49.000And for those years, nobody could understand it.
01:46:51.000That's why I was able to override the CIA and either fire or dismiss them or marginalize them.
01:46:57.000Well, now that you've told the Jimmy Carter story, I looked it up.
01:47:00.000It's on record that you were the State Department representative at the famous Camp David Accord.
01:47:05.000We should have you on just about the history sometime.
01:47:09.000But let me get back to the story of why... But I mean, let's get back to... What happened with President Carter?
01:47:15.000Well, Jimmy Carter... President Carter had initially created a guy himself involved in a bank holdup where he was micromanaging everything.
01:47:24.000And as a result of that, what happened was a man by the name of Khalid Who saw his daughter drowned by the Elijah Muhammad group, held five different buildings hostages, including the B'nai B'rith, shot Mayor Barry, and we had 500 hostages.
01:47:41.000The FBI could not handle it, the CIA could not handle it, and I was called in in the middle of the night to take it over.
01:47:48.000And Earl Silverblatt, who was at that time not my friend, but was the U.S.
01:47:52.000Attorney General, I told him that whatever happens will be cancelled, we'll have a gag order, no one is to talk, nobody is to say anything.
01:48:00.000And I took over complete command and control.
01:48:02.000There were three ambassadors from my, uh, Yahoo!
01:48:05.000Khan from Pakistan, from Egypt, and from Iran, all of whom were just sitting there.
01:48:12.000I quickly formulated the strategy and tactics where I took over the control of Khalis and told them that this is what's going to happen.
01:48:19.000And through Kalanane, who was a very good police officer, we were able to change the entire course of a disastrous event where 500 people with napalm on the stairwell was about to die, and Jimmy Carter had no understanding of it, neither did his people. and Jimmy Carter had no understanding of it, neither did And I literally threw them out, and I warned them that if they didn't come in, they will have a blood death on their hands.
01:48:44.000Sure, and that's on record too, it sounds amazing to listeners.
01:48:49.000But let's expand on this, let's expand on this then.
01:48:52.000I'm just letting people know the kind of stuff you've done and what you've seen.
01:48:55.000Where is this going now, where mercenaries, because the U.S.
01:48:59.000has been corrupt for a long time, and that's part of the whole Machiavellian system, and you know, when you dance with the devil, The devil doesn't change, you change.
01:49:07.000But now you can see it that what these mercenaries and the CIA and 80% of intelligence now run by private groups.
01:49:15.000I found an NSA base by my house and I've confirmed it.
01:49:18.000Well, it's a private group, data mining.
01:49:22.000They've made the American people their enemy too, because that's a new battlefield for them.
01:49:26.000They don't care about long-term, now they really just want their paychecks.
01:49:30.000You've got contractors, low-level, paid more than top generals, and so it's a private corporate coup that we see happening and they brag about it.
01:49:42.000Well, it is going into a major confrontation with our military because for every mercenary who basically was either ex-special forces receives $250,000 and you put in a special forces legal soldier next to him and he's only making $40,000 or $50,000.
01:50:04.000And I remember telling General Schumacher, the head of special forces and the head of the army, ten years ago, that our major enemy within five to ten years, and it's right now about Benghazi, will be those mercenaries under L3, under Northrop Grumman, under all the companies that have been outsourced.
01:50:23.000And Panetta has been one of the greatest users of these L3 communications.
01:50:28.000By the way, they plan to use L3 domestically for civil unrest.
01:50:33.000They got a giant training base here in Texas.
01:50:35.000I want to come back then and just zero in.
01:50:38.000Why did Obama stand down then if it was some type of internal operation with the neocons wanting to get missiles, you know, into the next theater to expand the war?
01:50:50.000Why did Obama play into their hands or has he joined up with these people?
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01:55:56.000So basically, where we are going into is a new kind of warfare, which is space warfare, cyberwar, cyberattack, which is really very important.
01:56:08.000It really now belongs to a whole new concept that which the United States has to begin to understand, which has to deal with private industry and working in cyber war and cyber security, because the Army isn't necessarily designated or has been trained in cyber war and cyber attack, although they're interested in it.
01:57:16.000Obama is going to be heading into a very serious problem of impeachment.
01:57:19.000If he continues all these wars that are illegal wars, which have not been overseen by the Congress, and are not the most effective Congress, but the American public understands that this is not just the President who quietly goes around and does what he does.
01:57:33.000He has been ordering these covert operations for years on end, and is a product of the CIA, and can no longer continue this.
01:57:41.000We will implode in terms of both our national security, and also our military will refuse to follow any more orders.
01:57:48.000And in particular, I talk about our Air Force, which is in space warfare, which has to do with satellite warfare, and our Navy.
01:57:56.000Because our Navy, when you talk about our Navy, nobody's really talked about our nuclear subs and our fleets, what we call SINCPAC, Commander Or the nuclear drone subs.
01:58:08.000They have those classified missile platforms that have been around for 20 years.
01:58:20.000But we have created under Obama and the Bush administration more unnecessary wars thanks to the CIA, thanks to incompetent civilians and incompetent generals who wanted to just get their... Back in 60 seconds, Doc.
02:00:08.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
02:00:13.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:00:17.000Wow, we were just talking about space-based weapons and how advanced they really are with Dr. Pchenik.
02:00:23.000Okay, we've got five minutes, Doc, and Larry Pratt's coming up, folks, on the assault on the Second Amendment.
02:00:30.000Government is getting more and more corrupt, more and more out of control.
02:00:33.000Look at the Secret Service and the hookers, all of it.
02:00:36.000They've got all these super weapons, but they're starting all these wars.
02:00:40.000They're trying to convert America to the police state.
02:00:42.000What's the establishment's grand plan?
02:00:45.000And is there any way to turn it around, in your view, Dr. Pachinik?
02:00:48.000Yes, I think it's very easy that the American public now, yesterday, started requiring that states write that they wanted to secede from the Union.
02:00:56.000I think this is something I wrote about 10, 20 years ago in State of Emergency, that the federal government has lost its legitimacy across the board on the civilian side, legislative, executive, judicial, on the military and the intelligence side.
02:01:10.000It is no longer a legitimate body of our national, of our republic.
02:01:27.000The federal government has lost its legitimacy, and I think those who are requiring and asking for states' rights, I think, are right.
02:01:34.000I wrote about it in the state of emergency when I said state after state will fight over water resources, and that from now on our country has to be concerned about domestic issues.
02:01:44.000Taking care of our veterans, taking care of people's jobs, making sure that we grow domestically and not fund some military-industrial complex.
02:01:52.000General Eisenhower, one of our greatest generals, said, we no longer need, it's dangerous, and at the same time warned the CIA that they would create a legacy of ashes.
02:02:02.000His words have come back to resonate 40, 50 years later.
02:02:06.000We have to decrease and eliminate most of our military across the board, just as George Marshall did when he fired six to 700 generals in one day.
02:02:15.000Eisenhower kept firing them until young men who were 26 and 27 were division commanders.
02:02:58.000About three to four hundred should be dismissed right away and taken down to the simplest core of special forces.
02:03:04.000Number four, I think everybody involved in this Benghazi attack, from Hillary Clinton, should be indicted for war crime.
02:03:12.000The President should be possibly impeached.
02:03:14.000Every one of the men in the White House, Donald, Brandon, particularly, should be impeached and indicted, as well as Clapper and the DNI, which is totally useless.
02:03:26.000And General Dempsey should be court-martialed.
02:04:02.000The White House has very little legitimacy.
02:04:04.000And so all we have is giant, organized crime syndicates battling for taxpayer money.
02:04:10.000That's why they want to keep raising taxes to get more corporate welfare.
02:04:13.000And they plan on using the giant welfare hordes as the political muscle to vote the middle class's money directly into the bankers' hands, while the dumbed-down welfare queens drool, demanding more goodies.
02:04:25.000I think it goes back to the original statement I made 10 years ago on your first show, which said we needed a revolution.
02:04:31.000A revolution doesn't have to be violent.
02:04:33.000It has to be one which takes down the totally corrupt White House, totally corrupt Congress, totally corrupt judicial system, totally corrupt FBI, secret services, totally corrupt.
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02:09:50.000Again, I did a 20-minute special report last week titled, you know, Proof Obama is Coming for Your Guns.
02:09:57.000But I thought we should get Larry Pratt on for about 40 minutes or so, and then we'll go to your phone calls, those of you that are holding, and get into some of the economic news that I have not.
02:10:07.000Not gotten into yet in any detail that we need to cover.
02:10:11.000But I mean, this is just from last year and again this year, ATF to accept public comments prior to outlawing shotguns.
02:10:18.000And then you go, they have a link in the Greeley Gazette, it should have been National News, to the ATF and they said, oh, we're going to have a rulemaking saying we're going to ban most shotguns, 60 plus percent made in the last decade, that can take a clip.
02:10:50.000They want us to live like folks in Chicago and New York, with six, seven locks on our doors, the great people of New York and Chicago, not allowed to defend themselves.
02:11:44.000I remember talking to Larry 12 years ago and saying that you've got to go after the NRA for their 68 Gun Control Act support, for their current support, and he finally started going after them a few years ago when they were basically saying, oh, we can have some, you know, restriction.
02:11:57.000They've gotten a little better, but still, Gun Owners is the place to keep the NRA honest.
02:12:02.000So all I can say is go sign up, become a member, get their free email alerts, gunowners.org, because We would have our guns basically banned if it wasn't for Gun Owners of America and you supporting them and many others.
02:12:32.000I mean, they are licking their chops right now.
02:12:34.000Obama said in the second debate, That he wants to ban not just semi-auto rifles, but handguns.
02:12:39.000So they're letting us know the UN has reconvened.
02:12:42.000They're letting us know that UN goal of, quote, banning civilian ownership of firearms, saying they threaten the legitimate power monopoly of the state.
02:12:57.000What is the state of our precious Second Amendment, the only country really in the world left, other than Switzerland, that doesn't have disarmed slaves?
02:13:05.000Well, Alex, first of all, thank you so much for letting me appear before your viewers and listeners.
02:13:13.000You have a tremendous audience and I'm very grateful every time I have a chance to visit with you.
02:13:18.000I don't think your concerns are misplaced.
02:13:23.000I think this president showed us during the time when he still had to face re-election that he didn't have any Basic problems, certainly no moral objection to ruling illegally and to ruling unconstitutionally.
02:13:42.000And his use of the executive order is something like perhaps ten times what George Bush's was, and his was quite a bit more than those before him.
02:13:53.000So we have seen government growing like a metastatic cancer here in Washington, and its enclaves All around the country and I suppose around the world.
02:14:06.000It's just stunning to me that we have re-elected a man who really doesn't give a rip about his oath of office.
02:14:14.000Whatever he understands by the Constitution isn't what the founders understood.
02:14:18.000And so I think we're in for, as you're indicating, a real tough time.
02:14:24.000I would have no surprise if the President were to have his Department of Justice issue an edict to gun stores, who are ultimately under them through the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which is part of the Department of Justice, telling their dealers
02:14:41.000You'll lose your license after, oh maybe, maybe 30 days from now, if you sell another handgun that has a caliber bigger than .380, or if you sell a long gun, rifle or shotgun, that accepts a high-capacity magazine.
02:14:59.000And as you indicated, that's probably most of your shotguns.
02:15:03.000and uh... any rifles you might have might also fit that same description uh... it's going to hit if he were to do something like that in a way that the dealers would have no choice because unconstitutionally they have to right now they have to have a permit a license from the federales in order to be able to Open a business and stay in business.
02:15:26.000And the day they pull that license from any dealer, he's out of business.
02:15:30.000He can no longer sell any of his guns to the general public.
02:15:35.000And so if your livelihood depends on that unconstitutional scrap of paper, Well, you're going to tend to do whatever you're told from Washington or else.
02:15:47.000And so I can see something like that happening.
02:15:50.000And by the way, it would probably make the U.N.
02:15:54.000so happy because in countries where they do let you have a gun, my wife's from Panama and their laws are rather similar to those of Latin America.
02:16:04.000If you can crawl over enough glass and you have enough connections and you finally get a permit, you'll be limited to a .380 and you won't be able to have any long gun that accepts a high-capacity magazine.
02:16:16.000So that would make us So much more responsible in the eyes of the rest of the world.
02:16:23.000You know that that will be one of the arguments that, well, our good friends, if we're going to be a responsible citizen in the world community, these are the kinds of conditions that we will have to impose upon ourselves in order to be a good neighbor in the international community.
02:16:42.000I'm afraid that's what's coming down and there's two ways that I think we can try to deal with this.
02:16:50.000One is that there are a small number of representatives coming to the Congress, the likes of which there have never been in my memory.
02:16:59.000Maybe if I go back to John Ashbrook, somebody like that was a very outspoken conservative and died mysteriously in a Senate campaign years and years ago.
02:17:12.000But for the recent past, we've had nobody like Steve Stockman, who just got elected from a district outside of Houston to the east and to the north, and Jackie Walorsky in the northwest corner of Indiana.
02:17:27.000These two have a history that tells me, and since I know them personally, I'll just describe them, but I understand there may be a handful of others coming with the same steel backbone It's time to get on the offense or we're cooked.
02:17:42.000Congress for his one term with the class of 94, he introduced a bill to overturn the recently enacted Clinton gun ban.
02:17:51.000And the Republicans were even more, if you will, gun shy than they are now.
02:18:12.000We have to literally go dig these people out.
02:18:15.000We have to call them the authoritarian scum they are, because listen, the gun culture is what the reason they call us bitter clingers is they know it's the core.
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02:24:05.000Obama said in the second debate that he didn't want to just ban semi-automatic rifles, he wants to ban your handguns that are semi-automatic, that's most handguns.
02:24:17.000And they've got the UN treaty coming up that once it's passed, the member nations 50% vote, 51% it becomes law here.
02:24:24.000They've got more Democrats in the Senate.
02:24:29.000I mean, we've never had the Second Amendment hanging by a thread.
02:24:32.000And they try to play this double game of going, we don't want your guns, you're stupid to go out and buy them, even though every gun I've bought over the last 20-something years has gone up in price.
02:24:45.000And they really can't stand the fact that we know they're liars, and we're voting with our dollars, and the fact that our gun culture, I just showed the Huffington Post article there in the last segment if you're watching on PrisonPlanet.tv, but it says Obama's gotta do something about this growing gun culture.
02:25:30.000Places that take the guns have higher crime.
02:25:32.000Larry Pratt, I mean, is that an overstatement?
02:25:34.000That at so many levels, the strongest thing we've got at so many areas is the guns, and they know it, and they are launching a total assault on it.
02:25:58.000Steve Stockman, a new representative in the House of Representatives here in Washington, and Jackie Walorski, also a new representative.
02:26:06.000They have a history of standing up to their party leaders, elected leaders.
02:26:12.000In Jackie Walorski's case, she bucked Governor Mitch Daniels, who is known as a fiscal conservative.
02:26:19.000Well, he wanted to raise taxes to balance the budget.
02:26:21.000And she bucked him and got the whole caucus eventually to go along with her, forcing him to make cuts instead of raising taxes.
02:26:29.000Now, in a way, that's almost It's at least as impressive as what Stockman did, because Stockman got his vote on the gun issue.
02:26:37.000And unlike the last time, if it goes over to the Senate, it's not going to be smothered by a Bob Dole.
02:26:44.000And Harry Reid has shown that when push comes to shove, he's a little reluctant to have an up-or-down vote on a gun issue.
02:26:53.000And so what I think might well happen is we'll get something out of the House, it'll go over to the Senate,
02:27:00.000Reid won't want to bring it up, but the rules of the Senate are rather somewhat more available for getting things done, and as an amendment, on threat of a filibuster, I can see somebody like Jim DeMint, Mike Lee, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, somebody of that sort making sure that there's a fight to amend, say, a spending bill that the President has shown in the past.
02:27:26.000He will sign even with pro-gun Amendments to it.
02:27:30.000And that way we could actually have the prospect of getting something done.
02:27:46.000No, no, no, I was just going to say, shifting gears to another subject, because I mentioned it before the break, we are seeing, and I'm getting callers saying this, when I'm defending the Second Amendment, saying you're just a racist.
02:27:59.000And they can't even say, and now I'm seeing MSNBC and people say, aha, The age of the white man's over, you're gonna have to turn your guns in.
02:28:08.000And I'm getting emails and seeing comments on YouTube, this is some new meme, like, like, like, oh, it's like a weird reverse racism or something.
02:28:18.000And the cover of Newsweek says, you're white, you're history.
02:28:21.000The Obama conquest, and he's in a Napoleon outfit with a sword.
02:28:25.000It's like some on the left now, Just are screaming for authoritarianism, but it's almost like Hitlerian, though, because it's mixed with a weird racial vitriol that I guess MSNBC's been able to sell.
02:28:58.000I did a debate for an hour on CNN en Español.
02:29:01.000And the point has to be made that the fact that guns are readily available here is why America is different.
02:29:10.000It's the tangible expression of the American spirit that we the people are in charge, not the governments from which you fled to get here to America.
02:29:21.000I want to hear you break that down further when we come back, because it's fundamental that if they can get our guns, they believe they've won.
02:29:27.000I mean, because then it's about living under the Socialists.
02:29:30.000They're going to take everything we got.
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02:33:17.000He's just prepared for massive market meltdown.
02:33:19.000We're going to get to that and then some of your phone calls when Larry Pratt leaves us.
02:33:22.000Larry, I've been asking a lot of the questions here.
02:33:24.000I want you to be able to add any other points that you think are important for listeners and other assaults we're going to see.
02:33:31.000But they tell us they're coming after our guns.
02:33:33.000They go, you've got a Second Amendment, we just have a right to take them.
02:33:36.000But finishing up the point that you were trying to get to, Um, because they say, oh, I mean, it's racist that our guns are killing people in Mexico.
02:33:45.000Well, Mexico's banned guns, and most of the guys that have them, it's hand grenades and grenade launchers and machine guns.
02:33:50.000They're not getting those at gun stores.
02:33:52.000It's turned out the ATF was shipping them directly into Mexico.
02:33:56.000Fast and Furious goes a lot deeper, but finishing up with this weird racial vitriol Where Time Magazine says, you're white, you're history, and shows Obama as a general with a sword.
02:34:08.000I mean, that's pretty, they show him as a dictator.
02:34:11.000They also show him as Lincoln and say he made the deal with the states.
02:34:15.000We have Texas now in less than 24 hours, what is it, 50-something thousand signatures now, it was 25,000 in hours, saying we want to secede.
02:34:23.000We need to just kick the globalists out of this country and just take our country back.
02:35:01.000You were getting cut off by the break talking about your CNN debate.
02:35:05.000Well, I think it's somewhat disappointing for the other side to realize that there are a number of us on the right who, I'm married to a Latin American woman, have been for almost 50 years, and I can debate them in Spanish, and so that kind of takes a little bit of the starch out of their shirt, I think, because it doesn't fit the stereotype that somebody that they just assume
02:35:33.000If you don't agree with me, as you were saying, Alex, it's one size fits all.
02:35:44.000Increasingly, have the ability to debate their point.
02:35:48.000And when I did the CNN debate in Spanish, they felt, I guess they were comfortable with the strength in numbers, so it was three against one.
02:35:59.000But, you know, it's all the same arguments, so I was really only debating one other, that argument that they all three were making.
02:36:09.000I'm not sure they figured out how to get out of that pit.
02:36:11.000Now, so far, they were able to do a very effective job with Mitt Romney, because Mitt Romney, who doesn't share, say, a Reagan view of America's greatness, and he doesn't know how to articulate it, that's for sure, and he didn't!
02:36:27.000And so he let Obama get away with anything he wanted.
02:36:30.000And, in fact, as you say, they came up with the race card.
02:36:35.000In the Fast and Furious scandal, wait, wait, wait, excuse me?
02:36:39.000Those are Mexicans that are dying, almost none of whom trace back to Spain through my wife's lineage.
02:36:47.000These are people who are brown, who are typical Latin Americans, and I thought it was kind of racist to kill some 400-plus and counting with guns that our government sent down there for that purpose!
02:37:04.000Sure, I mean, you're right, but I mean, it's literally, like you said, you go, hey, I don't want socialism, I don't want to lose our freedoms, and they just call in and go, you're a racist.
02:37:14.000And then they wait like you're about to fall over, and I guess, and they repeat talking points of MSNBC and Chris Matthews and And Rachel Maddow and all of them, I mean, they get up there and they say, if you don't like health care, it's because you're racist.
02:38:37.000But frankly, a lot of people in this country still can think.
02:38:42.000And if that's the way they want to conduct a debate in front of the American people, Bring it on.
02:38:49.000I think it's time we have that debate and let the whole country see just how inadequate their arguments are.
02:38:56.000But why would Newsweek come out and have David Fromm, who's attacked me seven ways this Sunday, come out and say, if you're white, you're history?
02:39:07.000I mean, that isn't... and then I see that as a meme online.
02:39:10.000It's like trying to... I guess they want... the left really wants to try to have a race war in the hopper.
02:39:16.000Well, golly, you're going to have to be attacked by somebody at more substance than Newsweek.
02:39:21.000They are no longer publishing in paper.
02:40:39.000And so in addition to going on the offense in Congress, which I think now we might be able to do, we also need to keep in mind, and you and I have talked about this before, there is in most of our states the very powerful institution of the County Sheriff.
02:40:55.000In fact, one of the things I'd urge people to buy at our ...site at GunOwners.org in the media section where we have the bookstore, or what others say, you'll find the bookstore.
02:41:06.000It's called The County Sheriff by Richard Mack.
02:41:19.000Read it first so you're sure you know what's in it.
02:41:22.000But it's the history and the constitutional doctrine of the sheriff is the top cop because he's the only cop that has an immediate delegation of authority via election from we the people.
02:41:35.000And so it is very important that we increase the number of these constitutional sheriffs throughout the land who are willing and able Uh, to tell the feds not in my county.
02:41:48.000If what you're trying to do is not in Article 1, Section 8 of our federal constitution, and there's a couple other things the constitution tells them to do as well, then you're not going to do it here in this county.
02:41:58.000And the sheriff gets their authority from the state constitutions.
02:42:01.000Uh, expanding on that, what do you make of nullification?
02:42:05.000I think that's something we're going to really see explode now.
02:42:09.000The sheriff is the guy who can nullify a state legislature, can nullify an acting legislation, and some states have done it, saying there's not going to be any exchange for Obamacare in our state.
02:42:22.000They are just flat out telling the feds, take a hike.
02:42:26.000That's what the federal system was designed to do.
02:42:29.000And now with 25 states, I think is the latest count, petitioning the White House for secession.
02:42:37.000And it's a rather more serious matter than any of the other states when Texas does that because Texas came into the union with the proviso explicitly Proviso, that it can also say adios, and it can be on its way.
02:42:52.000And that's why it's called the Lone Star State, because it has that proviso built in.
02:43:47.000Well, the Texas Legislature last year said you're not going to grobe us anymore because all of the House reps been flying into Austin had been getting grobed.
02:45:21.000We're going to take that over because we didn't give that power away.
02:45:24.000We just said that was something the federal government should do.
02:45:27.000But if you're not going to do it, we're going to do it.
02:45:30.000And what are the Feds going to do, invade Texas in order to not close the border?
02:45:35.000I think at some point the American people are going to say, what?
02:45:39.000The biggest problem I saw with Romney is he, as a liberal, would not join issues and he would not call Obama the socialist that he is, he would not specifically ...draw attention to the many socialist programs that Obama has been implementing and advocating, and he would not address the country in terms of the greatness of America, what it has been, and what it can be again.
02:46:10.000He agreed with Obama on so much, and instead of, again, people going and joining the globalists, This is a real shot across the bow of the Republicans that no more games.
02:46:21.000They're not co-opting the Liberty Movement.
02:46:24.000They're either going to disappear and let the Democrats take over, and a bunch of states are going to secede, or the power structure is going to get it.
02:46:32.000They're either going to have to act like Republicans talk, in other words, they're going to have to walk the talk, or I agree with you, there will be, at first, I think we might see next election, an increase in what we saw this time, the establishment continue to lose in contests that are brought by conservatives.
02:46:55.000The one in your Texas Senate race was a great example.
02:46:58.000of an outsider, challenging the establishment Dewhurst.
02:47:03.000And Dewhurst showed what the establishment was like.
02:47:06.000He's a facilitator of all that is wrong in Texas.
02:47:11.000He makes it happen, or keeps Reform from happening as a lieutenant governor there in Texas.
02:47:18.000He had a terrible record and Cruz called him on it, showed how you should run a campaign and when people hear that there is a distinction being drawn by somebody who really believes in freedom, The freedom fighter is often going to win.
02:49:24.000I want to start off by saying I do not support Obama, and I do not support the actions that he is undergoing with the country at the moment.
02:49:32.000But my real question I want to get your take on, when are we going to see Denver Airport come into play?
02:49:38.000From the research that I've done, is that it's going to be the base for the globalist elite to survive while They're just destroying everything.
02:49:49.000Yeah, I mean, it's official that Colorado's the designated secondary capital.
02:49:53.000It's got a bunch of underground bases in Colorado Springs.
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02:53:58.000The preacher man says it's the end of time And the Mississippi River, she's a gold drive The interest is up and the stock market's down And you're only getting mugged if you go downtown I live back in the woods, you see And the man, the foreign bankers, the banksters, they don't like that.
02:54:24.000And the man, the foreign bankers, the banksters, they don't like that.
02:54:32.000And the worst part is, they know that rural independent people, on average, don't buy the establishment's bulls.
02:54:48.000And that's why they're doing everything they can to shut down our rural communities and to kill the gun culture.
02:54:58.000Make our own whiskey and our own smoke too.
02:55:00.000Ain't too many things these old boys can't do.
02:55:04.000And what the establishment wants is to get you to turn your guns in.
02:55:12.000Country boy can And then they can really drop the hammer on us.
02:55:16.000Because they can't starve us out, and they can't make us run.
02:55:22.000And that's what the system wants to get rid of.
02:55:32.000What you need to do, no matter what race, color, creed, religion you are, is get self-sufficient.
02:55:41.000And realize that, hey, we can all kill each other later if you want, if that's what you want to do.
02:55:46.000But we need to understand the globalists are taking over our world.
02:55:49.000It's a scientific takeover, and it's anti-human, it's anti-God, and we better come together against the New World Order.
02:55:56.000You know in your gut it's true, you know intellectually it's true, and it's time for moron mainline conservatives to stop thinking they're part of the elite.
02:56:02.000It's time for liberals to start Waking up and not thinking they're part of the elite.
02:56:06.000It's time to realize we're all in deep trouble and humble ourselves.