In this episode of the Alex Jones Show, host Alex Jones is joined by health ranger Mike Adams and Dr. Andrew Wakefield to discuss the latest in the "Sandy Hook Truther" movement, including the latest on a 5 year old girl being suspended over a Hello Kitty toy bubble gun.
00:00:30.000I'm Paul Joseph Watson, writer with Infowars.com, filling in for Alex today.
00:00:35.000And the second half of the show will be presented by the health ranger, Mike Adams.
00:00:40.000He'll be joined by representative Steve Toth to talk about the latest with the gun grab news, as well as Dr. Andrew Wakefield, who of course has been vilified for revealing the dangers of vaccines.
00:00:54.000And coming up shortly, CNN can't get him, but we can.
00:00:58.000It's the controversial Florida professor, who's basically been savaged by the mainstream media for questioning the official narrative behind the Sandy Hook shooting.
00:01:08.000It's Professor James Tracy, and he'll be live via Skype to take your calls.
00:01:13.000And of course, if you've been living under a rock for the past few weeks, then the internet is basically aflame with what they're calling Sandy Hook truthers.
00:01:24.000There's actually one YouTube video alone which has got over 10.6, 10.6 million views in the last 10 days alone that talks about some of these questions surrounding the Sandy Hook massacre.
00:01:39.000So basically he's been absolutely pillared by the mainstream media.
00:01:58.000He's been absolutely pillared by the mainstream media.
00:02:00.000He was on CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 last Friday, I believe it was.
00:02:06.000And for 25 minutes, Anderson Cooper attacked him, put his picture up on screen.
00:02:12.000Basically, it was a surprise that there wasn't a wanted sign next to his name.
00:02:17.000I don't actually believe in all these theories that are circulating about Sandy Hook, but we're going to talk to the professor before the bottom of the hour.
00:02:26.000We're going to go over some of the questions that he and others have raised about the Sandy Hook massacre and about the backlash that he's faced from the likes of CNN, from the likes of Fox News.
00:02:39.000So that's going to be a fascinating talk.
00:02:41.000We're also going to go to your calls at the top of the hour for Professor James Tracy on all things Sandy Hook.
00:02:49.000But the top news at the moment on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, we've heard about the Nerf gun, we've heard about the kid being suspended for making a gun sign with his hand.
00:03:01.000But this one really takes the biscuit, and this took place in Mount Carmel, Florida.
00:03:09.000Basically, a five-year-old girl, a kindergarten girl, had a toy pink gun.
00:03:15.000It was a Hello Kitty toy pink gun that blew bubbles out of the gun when you pulled the trigger.
00:03:20.000It's a toy gun for a kindergarten child.
00:03:23.000She joked with her classmates that she was going to shoot them with her toy pink bubble gun.
00:03:30.000And of course, the teacher later finds out in this school in Florida, the five-year-old girl is interrogated without her mother being present for three hours by school officials over a Hello Kitty pink toy bubble gun.
00:04:12.000School officials as well in this story said that She was making terroristic threats, terroristic threats, with the toy pink bubble gun, the Hello Kitty gun.
00:04:25.000So, I mean, this again just heaps on top of the craziness in the aftermath of Sandy Hook.
00:04:31.000Is it really any wonder that the number of homeschool kids in America has swelled by over a million kids in the last decade when we continue to hear stories like this?
00:04:43.000I mean, you know, talk about the United States of hysteria.
00:04:47.000This is a five-year-old girl interrogated for three hours, accused of making terroristic threats, Threatened with jail and suspended for a Hello Kitty toy bubble gun.
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00:08:29.000That's right, I've taken a day off to take my son camping and I got up this morning and began reading the articles at InfoWars.com and I had to call in here to point out that even InfoWars.com and even myself and my great researchers, we tend to under or downplay the full magnitude of this.
00:08:50.000What's happening is so tyrannical and so sensational.
00:09:05.000There are two key articles right now on InfoWars.com.
00:09:09.000One about big sis to use to see something say something.
00:09:13.000Homeland Security spy grid on gun owners.
00:09:16.000The other, and I saw other articles yesterday, about police drills federally funded to take on disgruntled veterans and gun owners.
00:09:23.000Now, regular listeners know this is nothing new.
00:09:26.000You know, the New York Times four years ago, three years ago, scouts trained to take on terrorists and more.
00:09:30.000They trained to take guns and kill veterans.
00:09:33.000And the Homeland Security documents saying returning veterans are the number one enemy.
00:09:36.000Gun owners, conservatives, libertarians, constitutionalists, bomb balls in the fetters.
00:09:42.000We've known this was behind the scenes in the documents for at least the last four years.
00:09:47.000It was going on before that, but it accelerated under Obama.
00:09:50.000Now, I've had a chance yesterday and last time this morning to read the executive order, to really drill into it, and it confirms everything they've tried to push before, all at once, hitting us from over a hundred angles.
00:10:02.000Twenty-three executive orders, a bunch of legislation, a bunch of other actions.
00:10:08.000They are creating, well, they've created the giant Stasi spy force.
00:10:22.000Now, people remember articles we wrote years ago saying white Al-Qaeda will be announced because we got the new training manuals and we saw the new training videos where every terrorist is a white person being, quote, reported by a minority.
00:10:35.000And now the initial scripts are out on four new TV shows, Founding Fathers and Others, where it's all white racist with guns and minorities taking them down.
00:10:46.000So it's a government-organized attempt to push a kind of race war-type deal where it's the minorities in the government teamed up against, quote, whites.
00:10:54.000And that's why you see them on Fox Sports saying all gun owners are racist Klan members.
00:11:00.000That's why you see Bob Schaefer on CBS saying we've got to have a World War II operation against gun owners like they're Hitler.
00:11:23.000They are definitely going to stage false flags and come after us.
00:11:26.000I already knew this was happening last year, when four TV shows were in development, all green-lighted now, to start airing this year, where gun owners are racist murderers.
00:11:37.000So they're now going to say gun owning is a white thing, and people say, well that doesn't make any sense.
00:14:29.000Put nothing past them, but the fact that, and that's conservative when I say 30 million views, I mean one video's got like 11 million, one's got 10 million.
00:14:36.000In fact, the only time I lie is I underestimate because I don't want to say the truth.
00:14:40.000It's like 100 million views from what I've seen.
00:15:16.000The Republicans are going to go along with total open borders to gut the country.
00:15:20.000Everything's about to happen this year.
00:15:22.000That's why they're trying to mobilize their minions and dumbed down soccer moms to go after our guns.
00:15:27.000We have to get back in their face and say, how dare you compare gun owners to Nazi Germany and the government has to have a war against them?
00:15:52.000The secret program that I discovered years ago that we forced out to go public from our law enforcement sources that are patriots is now going public.
00:16:02.000They are going ahead with saying gun owners and conservatives are terrorists.
00:16:07.000We're not going to be able to own guns.
00:16:09.000This is a Soviet-style purge, like the Reds did to the White Russians in 1917.
00:16:15.000Ladies and gentlemen, they are declaring a concerted Homeland Security program of harassment and intimidation against gun owners.
00:16:25.000is an absolute criminal, then you must call every member of Congress and let them know that you're fully aware of what's happening because they know they've all committed crimes and insider trading.
00:16:34.000They know that they're bringing the country down.
00:16:36.000They know they're imploding the derivatives.
00:16:37.000They know they've brought in the New World Order.
00:17:57.000Because everybody's been asking, well, if they get the assault weapons ban through, how are they going to enforce it?
00:18:02.000How are they going to confiscate these weapons?
00:18:05.000And Big Sis, DHS, has announced that they're going to help expand and prioritize the See Something Say Something campaign with the express purpose of aiding Obama's gun control.
00:18:21.000Because I'm going to get off and let you continue with the article.
00:18:23.000We need to repost Kurt Nemo's article where the bill is introduced, where they make you turn your guns in and you get a tax credit for it on your taxes.
00:19:13.000And I mean, this is an agency, the DHS, let's not forget, that put out a report last year, funded a report, that said Americans, quote, reverential of liberty, and Americans suspicious of centralized authority, were basically terrorists.
00:19:30.000They lumped them in with a bunch of hate groups, racist clan members, and terrorist organizations, and said that Americans who held those viewpoints We're in the same league.
00:19:40.000I mean, this is an agency that's put out PSAs for the past three or four years, where, as Alex said, every terrorist portrayed is white, middle-class American.
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00:24:37.000Of course, they're still going to use the ones that, quote, unzip your DNA, but apparently now completely phasing out the x-ray body scanners, of course, as a result of numerous controversies over the past several years, led in no small part by DrudgeReport.com and Infowars.com.
00:24:59.000Of course, before the break, you heard Alex.
00:25:01.000He was talking about This new report out of Portsmouth, Ohio, which is up on Infowars.com, Drill characterizes disgruntled Second Amendment advocates as terrorists.
00:25:13.000And basically they had a safety security exercise involving the police, National Guard, and local emergency responders there in Portsmouth, Ohio.
00:25:21.000And the terrorists in this drill were portrayed as, quote, Two school employees who are disgruntled over the government's interpretation of the Second Amendment.
00:25:32.000And in this scenario, they had these pro-gun rights people building weapons of mass destruction, killing teachers.
00:25:42.000And using, you know, biological agents against the local community.
00:25:46.000So they're basically going full lockstep now, demonizing Second Amendment advocates amidst this national debate on gun control.
00:25:56.000So that story is up right now at InfoWars.com.
00:26:00.000I'm delighted to be joined now by Professor James Tracy, PhD from Florida Atlantic University.
00:26:07.000He's a tenured communications professor and he also teaches a class entitled Culture of Conspiracy.
00:26:14.000He's also involved with Project Censored and his website is memoryholeblog.com.
00:26:26.000Now before we get into Sandy Hook, obviously we're going to go in detail on that, I want to talk about basically the onslaught you've received over the past week by the mainstream media and particularly CNN.
00:26:38.000As I mentioned earlier, Anderson Cooper literally devoted half of his show last week to attacking Professor Tracy and then he had another ten minute segment just a couple of days ago doing the same thing.
00:26:52.000Basically As far as I saw it, he was trying to get Professor Tracy fired from his position there at the university.
00:26:59.000So, Professor, I mean, CNN could have easily just ignored all this.
00:27:03.000Why do you think they've attacked you so vigorously for asking questions about Sandy Hook?
00:27:10.000I think basically to bring me into the news frame and to personalize this between myself and the families of Newtown.
00:27:27.000Or is he keeping people honest, the authorities and so forth there, that have dropped the ball with regard to the investigation or perhaps even covered something up?
00:27:46.000And I spoke with my family members and my wife.
00:27:51.000She didn't really want me to go on the show, and so I declined from doing so, and they were very persistent.
00:27:59.000They, in fact, actually sent their reporter out here, who went to my place of employment, then filmed out in my front lawn, pretty much.
00:28:06.000I was not even aware of that, but he did call and say that he was around the corner, he was a couple blocks away, I guess, wanted me to come out, and I said, look, I'm really not into it.
00:29:10.000So maybe, you know, maybe they've dropped the story.
00:29:13.000I mean, to my, I watched the clip, the 20 minute thing where Cooper's demonizing you, and it seems obviously he's using, you know, you're insulting the victims as a platform for what he's saying, but he also seemed just as annoyed about the fact that you were questioning Whether or not the mainstream media did its job in the first days after the event.
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00:33:17.000It's Paul Joseph Watson in for Alex Jones.
00:33:20.000We're talking to Professor James Tracy about the Sandy Hook massacre.
00:33:25.000He's a professor who's caused no end of controversy over the past week because he's been heavily demonized by the likes of CNN and Fox News.
00:33:35.000There's a video on YouTube which came to my attention about a week ago.
00:33:39.000It's only been posted for about 10-11 days.
00:33:42.000It's called the Sandy Hook shooting fully exposed.
00:33:47.00010.6 million plus people have watched this video in the space of the last 10-11 days alone.
00:33:54.000That shows you how voracious the interest is in this whole Sandy Hook issue.
00:33:59.000And I mean, I'm coming at it from a perspective of There are lots of unanswered questions.
00:34:04.000I don't buy into the notion that this never happened or that the parents, the family members involved were actors in some sense, which some people have claimed.
00:34:15.000I think it was a real tragedy, it really happened, but there are plenty of unanswered questions that go along with it that suggest more people than the accused shooter Adam Lanza may have been involved.
00:34:27.000So we're going to get into that now with Professor James Tracy.
00:34:32.000So Professor, you know the Obama administration has built its entire gun control move on the notion that Adam Lanza shot these children with an AR-15 assault rifle.
00:34:43.000They're trying to ban the assault rifles now.
00:34:46.000Given that, wouldn't it be the perfect poster child to actually have even a still image from a surveillance camera of Adam Lanza with this AR-15 assault rifle, when in reality we've seen nothing, no surveillance footage, no still images of the shooter.
00:35:06.000When in past, you know, mass shootings, school shootings, images of the shooter, thinking about Columbine, Virginia Tech, have emerged within days.
00:35:15.000But of Adam Lanza, we've seen absolutely nothing.
00:35:18.000Is that one of the questions that you've been talking about?
00:35:24.000The Sandy Hook School District installed a new security system in September.
00:35:30.000Now this is a very affluent community and they would not have cut corners in terms of video surveillance and the ability to be able to store that video that's taken.
00:35:40.000So there's a glaring problem here with regard to what is actually going on.
00:35:47.000I think we can safely conclude that there was video footage captured, but where is it now?
00:35:53.000One scenario is that the The one individual or team of individuals went in and went to the main office and may have turned off the video surveillance.
00:36:06.000But we've not heard from the officials whether or not that is in fact the case.
00:36:11.000If it was Adam Lanza, would he have had the foresight and sophistication to be able to pull something like that off?
00:36:18.000If it was a crew, you know, a team of shooters, that may have in fact been the case.
00:36:25.000That's the only thing that I've heard about possibly explaining why there might not be video surveillance, other than them just holding back on it and attempting to, for example, doctor it.
00:36:37.000That's something I believe that Mike Adams had a piece a couple of days ago about, you know, where is the surveillance footage.
00:36:46.000It's a very big question, because if they want to put a lot of our queries to rest, they could release that.
00:36:52.000We could see Lanza committing the crimes, and that would be the end of it.
00:36:57.000Another thing that that might point to is that handguns were used, because those were what the initial reports stated.
00:37:05.000In fact, NBC News confirmed the reports from state and federal officials that there were four handguns used.
00:37:14.000This was on the morning of December 15th, Pete Williams on the NBC Today Show.
00:37:19.000That was changed on the afternoon of December 15th by the Connecticut medical examiner H. Wayne Carver to being the AR-15, solely the AR-15 that was used.
00:37:32.000That was at the press conference at about 3.30, I believe 3.15, 3.30 p.m.
00:37:35.0003:30, I believe 3:15, 3:30 p.m. on December 15th. - And we had reports that the actual assault rifle was left in the vehicle, but then the video showed the police removing what looked like a shotgun out of the trunk of the vehicle.
00:37:52.000So do we know, have we pinned down exactly what's going on with the specific weapons that were used, or is that still contradictory?
00:37:59.000I think that it's still contradictory.
00:38:01.000The footage looks as if it was a shotgun.
00:38:04.000But altogether, there were, I believe, there were at least six weapons, or seven weapons, if you include, at one point or another, that somehow materialize on the scene and then disappear.
00:38:20.000There's the AR-15 and then there are two Enfield rifles that are referenced at one point or another in the reportage.
00:38:28.000So you've got a total of, I believe, at least seven weapons that are mentioned, that are pointed to by officials in journalistic reports, and then somehow disappear, and then we are down to the one weapon, the AR-15.
00:38:43.000Which we might at the very least surmise that this is one of the weapons that looks the most dangerous and the one that might be targeted in legislation and executive orders.
00:38:57.000Now we've got these reports of two men in the woods, obviously we've all seen the footage of them being apprehended in the woods.
00:39:05.000One has been explained as a parent who went to the school to help his son bake, I think it was gingerbread men or something, that's kind of been explained.
00:39:15.000He said he heard the gunshots, he was petrified, he ran away.
00:39:19.000There was another report of a separate man in the woods, though, and it emerged in a Newtown Bee report, quote, a man with a gun who was spotted in the woods.
00:39:29.000So this is a guy with a gun around a school massacre.
00:39:32.000A man with a gun who was spotted in the woods near the school on the day of the incident was an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town.
00:39:42.000So, why is a guy who's a police officer from another town in the woods outside where a massacre's taking place with a gun?
00:39:51.000I mean, is that a place where people would go hunting right next to a school?
00:39:55.000So, Professor, just tell us about the reports of additional individuals that may have been involved in this event.
00:40:03.000Well, the aerial footage that is taken by the Associated Press shows at least one figure fleeing the scene being pursued by police officers.
00:40:16.000So if there was someone up in the woods, They must have come back down and then been chased back up into the woods.
00:40:25.000At one point, about a week or so ago, J. Paul Vance, the Connecticut State Police Lieutenant, said that the individual up in the woods was just chopping wood.
00:40:36.000Just happened to be there chopping wood.
00:40:37.000Well, maybe they came down to the school and got a drink of water or something and then went back up there.
00:40:43.000That footage also shows, you can see someone in the upper left hand portion of the video footage, someone who emerges behind a tree.
00:40:54.000And they remain unaccounted for, so apparently they escaped.
00:40:58.000But of course, as you know, there's also the CBS footage of a bystander who remarks that this individual was paraded by them and said to them, the onlookers, that I didn't do it.
00:41:11.000And then they took the individual and put them in the front seats of the patrol car.
00:41:17.000I'm very skeptical of accepting the Newtown Bee as a valid source for information after the really contradictory reports initially from December 14th.
00:41:30.000First of all, quoting the principal, Don Hawksprung, And then retracting that and never saying who actually was that they spoke to.
00:41:38.000So I'm really very suspicious of that particular medium.
00:41:44.000And then apparently the individual that was spotted in the parking lot was a parent.
00:42:00.000I know that that is out there, but this was an individual that was spotted by someone, by a student who was being interviewed who had experienced the evacuation of the building.
00:42:17.000And I believe that would have been the alleged parent that somehow fled onto the scene all of a sudden.
00:42:26.000There are also questions with regard to the alleged photograph of the evacuation of the 15 or 16 students that were being evacuated that really did make the national and international news.
00:42:42.000That was supposedly taken by one of the Newtown B associate editors as she came onto the scene in the back of the first responders.
00:42:55.000And she said that she was taking photographs left and right.
00:43:00.000And yet only two photographs emerged from that series of photos.
00:43:05.000So there's this conflicting information as well with regard to the additional suspects on the scene, but we've not really been given any conclusive evidence as to, as far as I'm concerned really, as to who they were and what they were doing there, and whether or not they may have been accessories in the crime.
00:43:29.000Yeah, there are a lot of questions about the lack of children, the lack of parents, the lack of teachers being seen in the actual surrounding area after the massacres happened.
00:43:39.000Of course, the school was on lockdown for a time, but then everybody was evacuated.
00:43:45.000I was thinking maybe that's only because the mass media showed up quite a while later after everybody had already been evacuated.
00:43:59.000If you note the school shooting at Taft Union High School out by Bakersfield, there was media on the scene there.
00:44:12.000Comparable in student body to the Newtown, to Sandy Hook, there are about 850-900 students there.
00:44:23.000And there's a very evident evacuation taking place there where the sidewalks are flooded.
00:44:30.000With students, but we see none of that in Newtown and where the students would have converged over at the fire hall, the fire station, there's a limited degree of activity there as well.
00:44:43.000So some of these things also uh... made uh... made me suspicious exactly what is uh... what is going on here is this an event that is in some way shape or form being embellished because i think that something took place there as well but i'm wondering as to what to to what degree it it it may be uh... somewhat uh... fortified if you will
00:45:05.000And also, there were these bizarre reports of people dressed as nuns fleeing the scene in a purple van, and then we've got this photograph of these black veils being found near the scene on the ground.
00:45:19.000I believe, in fact, that it was someone who was calling the Alex Jones Show on the morning of the incident that reported this initially, and that's the first time that it emerged really on the news.
00:45:33.000And there was also an article on the Intel Hub that delves into this to some degree.
00:45:41.000In fact, I believe there was a photograph taken of these individuals, and they're wearing They're wearing footwear similar to what police officers would wear.
00:45:54.000Yeah, I actually saw that photo earlier today.
00:45:58.000But I mean, the problem we've got is, you know, amidst all these legitimate questions about the narrative, you know, what happened, who was involved, there's a plethora of claims that are obviously either completely baseless or are, you know, woefully reductionist.
00:46:14.000And I think the whole thing about Emily Parker supposedly not being killed and then being included in that photo with Obama is clearly one of them because if you look at the high-res images you can quite clearly prove that it is in fact her sister who obviously wasn't one of the victims.
00:46:31.000So I mean what do you say to the idea that You know, some people are really making huge leaps of logic and in doing so are detracting from any real understanding of what happened.
00:46:43.000Because I've seen some really just crazy things like, you know, Robbie Parker, one of the parents, is actually Tony Hawk, the skateboard guy.
00:46:52.000So there's a lot of people poisoning the well with bizarre craziness and it's really not helping us understand what actually happened, is it?
00:47:00.000Well, I've seen a lot of activity on my blog as well, the comments and things of the like, and I think that there is definitely a program to sow misinformation in the stream of information in order to muddy the waters.
00:47:19.000And in the process, discredit the research, really the research that independent researchers and the like are putting together and alternative media.
00:47:30.000Because if you can discredit it or muddy the waters to a limited degree in one area, you can paint with a fairly broad brush.
00:47:40.000The mainstream corporate media can do that.
00:47:44.000So I'm not very surprised if things like that are being spread.
00:47:50.000I'm also somewhat suspicious of the, you know, some of the webpages or some of, for example, a Facebook page that is created a few days ahead of time.
00:48:06.000I know less about the mechanics of Facebook and the extent to which dates can be changed to really draw any conclusions with regard to that.
00:48:21.000Well I mean that is interesting but for me it's not proof of anything because you can create a Facebook page and then rename it to something else so the original timestamp on the Facebook page will say you know for example December 10th and then you rename it to something else later on.
00:48:39.000Also obviously I work in you know web publishing and you can change a timestamp as easy as anything so I mean that for me that's you know it's quite bizarre like a lot of the other stuff but it's not We're going to get back into the details shortly.
00:48:57.000Louise Tambaschio, who was a family friend of the Lanzers, told 60 Minutes, quote, I know he was on medication.
00:49:05.000Professor, why over a month later do we not know anything about what psychiatric drugs Adam Lanzer was on?
00:49:13.000I think that this is a very valid question that journalists such as John Rappaport have asserted.
00:49:20.000Why is it that we don't know what his physician's name is?
00:49:25.000If he was, in fact, under psychiatric care or the equivalent, and what types of drugs he may have been on.
00:49:32.000There's a drug that I've never heard of called, I believe, Tanaft.
00:49:36.000uh... that uh... that he was uh... supposedly on uh... but again there there's uh... limited amount of information uh... that's been uh... that's been disclosed uh... by by authorities or or otherwise I was actually talking about disinformation.
00:49:54.000There was an individual who claimed to be Lanza's uncle, who was circulating around the media a few weeks ago now, and he actually put out the name of the drug that Lanza was supposedly on.
00:50:06.000A bunch of publications ran with it, including New York Magazine, I think.
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00:54:13.000Mike Adams will be here in the second half of the show to take you to the end of the broadcast, but right now we're talking to Professor James Tracy of Florida Atlantic University.
00:54:24.000He's controversially questioned the official narrative behind the Sandy Hook School shooting and he's been demonized and attacked by the likes of CNN and Fox News for doing so.
00:54:35.000I'm going to take your calls for the professor coming up shortly at 800-259-9231.
00:54:46.000We were talking about some of the disinformation that gets mixed into all these questions, which kind of poisons the well.
00:54:54.000And obviously, I believe that this was a horrible tragedy for all the parents involved.
00:55:01.000And I believe that some of the people who are asking questions about this, not the professor, but a lot of people on YouTube, I've handled it in a rather insensitive way, of course we've had reports about them harassing some of the people who were involved and basically it doesn't do us any favours, so...
00:55:20.000We need to treat it, obviously, with extreme caution because it's a very traumatic event.
00:55:25.000And I think one of the aspects of this, which a lot of people have claimed, Professor, is this whole idea that there were, quote, crisis actors who were working with the media to create a fake narrative surrounding this event.
00:55:41.000And this is where we probably differ, but just give us your take on the whole crisis actors angle.
00:55:49.000The Crisis Actors is a group based out of Denver, Colorado, I believe, and they work in association with the Department of Homeland Security on active shooter drills.
00:56:04.000So they are involved in playing the roles of bystanders, of perhaps the shooter himself, the victims in some cases, The individuals involved in posting things to social media.
00:56:23.000In other words, they are all-encompassing in creating an environment for a lifelike drill.
00:56:32.000Now, there was a drill that took place, by the way, along these lines.
00:56:36.000Now, I don't know if crisis actors were involved, but this was in a school for disabled children in Harlem.
00:56:42.000And the children were absolutely, absolutely terrified.
00:56:46.000So in some cases, it's not known whether or not an event is actually taking place, but it's made more lifelike by the crisis actors.
00:56:55.000Again, I don't know if they were involved in that particular drill, and that's an incident that's sort of flown beyond the, you know, the mainstream media radar.
00:57:03.000But these individuals are, they're deployed within the community, and they go ahead and they, you know, They again, they embellish the particular event.
00:57:16.000So if this were a drill that somehow went live, as we know that for example 9-11 and the 7705 bombings were, then it would have involved actors along these lines and they would not even know whether or not the drill itself went live.
00:57:40.000One of the things that that made me question in this regard was looking at the video footage as well as the photographic evidence emerging from the scene.
00:57:51.000And as you had alluded to earlier, there were just, you know, there were a few bystanders and the like.
00:57:58.000There were very few people actually being interviewed when you would think there would be a great many people on the scene.
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01:00:27.000We're talking to Professor James Tracy of Florida Atlantic University.
01:00:32.000He's questioned the official narrative behind the Sandy Hook school massacre and basically being pursued by CNN as a result of it and other news organizations.
01:00:42.000We're going to go to your calls shortly.
01:00:52.000Before the break, we were talking about the idea that some of these individuals involved in this event may have been actors or participants in a drill.
01:01:02.000Of course, we know that drills shadow both 9-11 and 7-7.
01:01:06.000And you have to frame all this while Well being sensitive to the fact that it was, according to my mind, a very real tragedy involving very real victims.
01:01:17.000But you have to frame it in the context that, you know, under Fast and Furious, the Obama administration sent 2,000 assault weapons to drug lords in Mexico, resulting in the deaths of over 300 people, many of them children.
01:01:34.000So to claim that this would be beyond the government to stoop to such a level to kill 20 kids to ram through their political agenda is somewhat naive given what we've seen historically with the likes of Operation Gladio and other false flag terror programs which are on the record all admitted they've been subject to parliamentary investigations in countries like Italy admitted that
01:02:01.000You know, governments stage mass shootings, they stage bombings, they bomb trains for their own political agenda.
01:02:09.000So asking questions about an event that has been the fulcrum of the Obama administration's agenda on gun control is only sensible while of course maintaining that respect, that dignity, that sensitivity for the victims.
01:02:26.000But what sprung to my mind before the break is Professor Straight after the collapse of the Twin Towers on 9-11, we had people on the ground who seemed to know bizarrely intricate details of how that collapse happened, which just happened to then morph almost immediately into the official story.
01:02:46.000So I guess that's what you're talking about when you're talking about actors being involved.
01:02:50.000You're not saying there were no victims, you're just saying that people may have been there to massage the narrative, is that correct?
01:03:03.000And I never said anything declarative in any of my articles about this happened.
01:03:09.000I was saying, could this be a possibility?
01:03:12.000And yet the media took that and ran with it.
01:03:17.000It took my assertion as an allegation when it was merely a question.
01:03:22.000And that, unfortunately, is how this has been framed and how I think that it's been offensive, especially to the people that lost their loved ones up there in Newtown.
01:03:33.000I never actually intended that in any way, shape, or form.
01:03:37.000But certainly, yes, what you point out with regard to 9-11 is
01:03:41.000Is really right on in that this idea that a steel frame building could collapse as a result of the heat from the airplanes, I think is something that was put out there at the time to sort of deflect any questioning as to how could this have actually taken place, these buildings going down in such a way in their own footprint.
01:04:17.000Other aspects that I want to get into, obviously, we've got things about Adam Lanza's car, a picture with all four doors open.
01:04:26.000Why would that be the case if he was just exiting the car on his own?
01:04:29.000As he mentioned earlier, the school principal gives a quote to the Newtown Bee describing the attack, but she's actually the first victim of the attack.
01:04:38.000That's another inconsistency that hasn't been explained.
01:04:41.000We'll go into it and more with your calls, Professor Tracy.
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01:08:31.000Holder begs court to stop document release on Fast and Furious.
01:08:35.000Basically, they're trying to stop a lawsuit brought by Judicial Watch, asking them to open records relating to Operation Fast and Furious, which of course was the program which many view as a deliberate effort to undermine the second amendment where the Obama administration sent two thousand assault weapons to drug lords in Mexico leading to the deaths of three hundred people so
01:09:02.000If you think it's beyond the Obama administration to engage in murder to further their gun control agenda, remembering the fact that it was Obama himself back in April 2011 who told Sarah Brady in a White House meeting he was working, quote, under the radar to sneak attack the Second Amendment, then we'd be very naive to think that they wouldn't engage in such activity.
01:09:27.000We're talking to Professor James Tracy about the Sandy Hook Massacre.
01:09:32.000The questions that he's raised about the event and subsequently being attacked by the media for asking.
01:09:48.000Yeah, I think it's great that he got the thing about the shotgun and the trunk ride and the dress with the daughter.
01:09:58.000But what I haven't heard, I'd like to hear him talk about is the question of whether or not that was Adam Lanza's car.
01:10:06.000And also, if you've seen some of the rebranding of businesses in the area, if you go to Sandy Hook hair, Sandy Hook Co.com, Sandy Hook Hair Company, and see their whole image, their whole bloody handprint and the white heart and the palm.
01:10:22.000And finally, of course, the whole thing about the Batman map in the movie, the Batman movie having Sandy Hook on it, and also actually lining up to the road to Newton with a circle on the school, which is the stadium that's attacked in the movie.
01:10:38.000Okay, well, there's quite a bit there.
01:10:41.000First, with regard to Adam Lanz's car, this was apparently registered to a Chris Rodia, and yet there was an article that came out
01:10:57.000uh... arguing that uh... that this was not the case i think it was in a uh... uh... it was in a uh... first paper that uh... it was not uh... it was that the the car was not uh... registered to him but in fact it's uh... it it turns out that uh... that that it was and that that uh... rodeo you know uh... he had a number of uh...
01:11:19.000He had a number of run-ins with the law.
01:11:21.000He had been involved apparently in drug running and the like.
01:11:27.000So that's as much as I know with regard to the automobile.
01:11:37.000The, uh, well, there's this crazy rebranding of businesses with Illuminati symbology.
01:11:43.000I mean, it's totally out there, but go to SandyHookHairCo.com and you'll see their website with the bloody red handprint and the all-seeing white heart in the palm.
01:11:53.000And then, of course, the whole Batman map, Sandy Hook.
01:11:57.000If you go to YouTube, BatmanMapSandyHook, a strange comparison, you'll see this one-minute video.
01:12:04.000I've seen that, Professor, but, I mean, there's a place, obviously Gotham City is based on New York City and there's a place in New York City called Sandy Hook.
01:12:12.000That's how I, that's how I understood it.
01:12:16.000Yeah, and that does come up, but I think one hour and 58 minutes into the Dark Knight Rises, there's that specifically on the map, from what I understand.
01:12:27.000I haven't seen the movie in its entirety.
01:12:29.000And someone, somehow I saw that on my blog just recently, someone putting something in there with regard to the hair salon or the hair company, but I've not seen the actual imagery itself.
01:12:43.000Uh, so I can't, uh, I can't really comment on that.
01:12:49.000Yeah, I think the thing with the car was, how I read it, it was, it was like a bleed in the police transmission tapes, where he had been apprehended in a completely different city, and that bled through to their transmission, which is why it got confused with Adam Lanza.
01:13:03.000That's how it was explained, whether that's true or not.
01:13:07.000Yeah, it was explained in a mainstream media outlet that he was mistaken, but whether or not that is in fact the case is still somewhat questionable.
01:13:26.000And the other stuff doesn't really... I mean, it's all very weird, but it doesn't prove anything for me.
01:13:31.000Father James in California, you're on the air, go ahead.
01:13:36.000Good morning, it's good to talk to you, and I've been a listener of the show for probably about a year, and initially thought that Alex was rather paranoid until I began researching everything that he was talking about and finding so much important information.
01:13:53.000You know, I have family members that are educators, my father served in Special Forces in Vietnam, The kind of false flag attack is something that I've heard about from him.
01:14:09.000In Vietnam, he said it was a common tactic for them to go into a Vietnamese village, do attacks, leave evidence of it being North Vietnamese or Viet Cong, then come in in subsequent days to Respond to their outrage and recruit them and train them to fight against the North Vietnamese.
01:14:31.000So, you know, it's a tactic that's been around for a long time.
01:14:37.000And thinking about these questions, you know, my thoughts have been that, you know, the conversation in the media, especially as it's put out by the government, is how many lives will we save by banning guns?
01:14:48.000And I think the question really needs to be turned around.
01:14:53.000How many lives are we going to sacrifice if we limit or restrict guns from law-abiding citizens?
01:15:00.000I think a very practical way to arm our teachers Yeah, we have a lot of police chiefs and sheriffs that are standing up now saying that they're going to defend Second Amendment rights.
01:15:13.000A very simple approach would be for them to issue conceal and carry permits to teachers and then to overcome the ban for guns at school is to deputize them.
01:15:24.000You know, sheriffs, police chiefs can deputize citizens.
01:15:28.000Um, and service, so they can train them, license them, deputize them, and it'll be legal for those teachers to have a firearm concealed on campus.
01:15:41.000Well, Professor, would you feel safer if your kids were in a school where you knew the teacher had a safely locked away gun in the event of some crazed killer coming into the school?
01:16:29.000Of course Obama just signed the bill where he gets lifetime armed, secret service protection, while all the rest of you lowly peasant American citizens are disarmed.
01:16:40.000Jacob in Illinois, you're on the air Jacob, go ahead.
01:16:43.000Oh hi, I've been a listener for a couple days now.
01:16:57.000I was just wondering, how did he get it into the school in the first place?
01:17:04.000Professor, that's what the medical examiner addressed, isn't it?
01:17:08.000If you want to cover it from that angle.
01:17:11.000Yeah, this came up, this is when the story was significantly altered during that press conference from, as far as I can tell, from the four handguns, which is what was being reported at 8 o'clock or 8.30 a.m.
01:17:29.000on the NBC Today show, to the single AR-15.
01:17:34.000uh... and during that press conference and it's important to really look at that press conference because i think that's really the most revealing uh... piece of uh... evidence of information in this case is that uh... this is the the weapons is Changed immediately from the pistols to the AR-15.
01:17:55.000And even a reporter speaks up and says, but the rifle was found in the car.
01:18:02.000And at that point, the Connecticut State Police Lieutenant Vance said, that's not correct, sir.
01:18:09.000So it's at that point where things change.
01:18:12.000How he got the weapon into the school?
01:18:16.000Well, according to the official story, he approached the entrance of the school and he shot out the front door with a hole big enough to enter.
01:18:30.000Yet, we've not seen any video evidence that that, in fact, took place, nor has there been any video or photographic evidence of the door itself, the entry point itself.
01:18:52.000Professor, tell us about this pejorative term conspiracy theory you wanted to talk about.
01:18:58.000The dynamics between how that's being used by the establishment media in relation to this event.
01:19:06.000Well, I think that as an academic, and I think this is also the case with regard to journalists, they fear being called a conspiracy theorist.
01:19:17.000That is the pejorative that's being used against me to make an example out of me, to threaten my job, to get me to be quiet, to not ask questions.
01:19:30.000It's important to think about how this term originated, how actually it developed.
01:19:36.000There's an important book called Conspiracy Theory in America that's coming out in April of this year by a colleague of mine, Lance DeHaven Smith up at Florida State University.
01:19:48.000Now he helped to devise the concept of state crimes against democracy.
01:19:54.000This is something that's We'll be back.
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01:24:18.000Professor, just finish up your thought there quickly about the term conspiracy theory.
01:24:23.000Yeah, in the mid-1960s, Paul, the U.S.
01:24:28.000government and the Central Intelligence Agency were concerned with regard to criticisms of the Warren Report, so they issued a dispatch to all of their offices.
01:24:40.000And this dispatch right here, it's number 1035-960.
01:24:45.000It's available at the JFK-Lancer website.
01:24:51.000It talks about how Can I read a bit of this?
01:24:56.000Yeah, we're pushed for time, but yeah, quickly.
01:24:58.000Okay, well it talks about how public opinion is almost 50% skeptical of the official conclusions of the Warren Commission report, and talks further about employing propaganda assets to negate and refute the attacks of the critics.
01:25:15.000Talk specifically about conspiracy theories and how to, the specific techniques that one could use in CIA asset publications and by CIA assets themselves in the media industry to essentially subdue any sort of criticism.
01:25:35.000And so what I'm getting at in that regard And you could again go to the JFK Lancer site and read it since we're pressed for time, but I believe it's a key document because this is something that has, it has in many ways really created fear among journalists and among scholars to address Anything that might be considered a conspiracy theory.
01:25:56.000I think I know this more intimately than anyone.
01:25:59.000Because I, you know, I can sense that fear among others.
01:26:03.000You can't touch certain subjects such as 9-11 because you might be accused of this.
01:26:09.000And this is something that could cost you your job and or your credibility.
01:26:17.000Okay, Todd in Florida, quickly please, final call.
01:26:29.000I feel that that is some very important information.
01:26:32.000Paul Vance dodged blatantly a question when asked what was Nancy Lanza's connection to the school.
01:26:38.000And I believe that he couldn't answer that question because later it came out that she had no connection.
01:26:43.000However, there was a report on the scene from Sally Cox, the 15-year alleged nurse at Sandy Hook, who told a reporter that she knew Nancy Lanza and that she was an experienced kindergarten teacher.
01:26:56.000I think we need to question those things very much.
01:27:00.000Are you also familiar with the fundraiser sites?
01:27:05.000The URLs were created before the event?
01:27:09.000Yeah, we talked about that a bit earlier.
01:27:12.000I don't know if a medical examiner would actually have that information.
01:27:17.000What I would expect of him as a professional is to have information specific to the injuries, you know, the causes of death, the caliber of the bullets, how many girls, how many boys were slain.
01:27:30.000These things are just basic and they were not addressed by Dr. Carver.
01:28:04.000Primarily there are essays that I've written on political criticism and events such as this.
01:28:14.000Uh... and uh... things that uh... might be regarded as uh... as conspiracies but attempting to analyze those uh... and develop those uh... in a historical context and in a more contemporary context.
01:28:54.000There goes Professor James Tracy raising questions about the Sandy Hook Massacre.
01:28:59.000And again, this has gone completely viral.
01:29:03.000It even surprised me how crazy insane the interest in this is.
01:29:10.00010.6 million views on one video alone on YouTube that was created Just 10-11 days ago, and in fact, we're probably going to try and get the creators behind that video on the show.
01:29:21.000But tons of videos, tons of questions, while still trying to maintain respect, dignity, for the realization that this was a very real tragedy.
01:29:31.000But we'll continue to ask questions about it.
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01:32:58.000From the front lines of the Information Ward, it's Alex Jones.
01:33:06.000All right, we're back here on the Alex Jones Show.
01:33:22.000And this is Mike Adams stepping in for the next hour and a half here.
01:33:26.000I want to thank Paul Joseph Watson for his eye-opening interview there.
01:33:30.000I didn't catch all of it because I was obviously driving in to be here.
01:33:35.000But we've got even more great information coming up.
01:33:38.000This is just hard-hitting, day after day, hour after hour.
01:33:41.000Here's what we have coming up right now on the phone with us, and he'll be joining us in just a minute, is Representative Steve Toth from Texas, who is the person introducing the Firearms Protection Act, that he was on the show I think two days ago here with Alex, and he's got more updates for us, and I have some new questions for him as well, so we'll get an update on that.
01:34:02.000We've also got, today I'm going to give you just a little commentary on Lance Armstrong and his now staged confession that he lied all along and all the people that he bullied and threatened and intimidated were actually correct in saying that he doped.
01:34:20.000So I'll give you a little breakdown on that, but I'm not going to spend too much time on that because there's far more important things happening in this world than Lance Armstrong's career.
01:34:27.000We've got smart gun RFID technology now being discussed for firearms.
01:34:33.000This is part of Obama's 23 now infamous executive orders, new ways to track firearms owners.
01:34:42.000And the New York PD is also even now suggesting that they should put RFID chips into your medication.
01:34:48.000That's what they want to track is your drugs, and your guns, and your money, your cash, and probably everything else.
01:35:57.000And it's not just about the Second Amendment.
01:35:59.000This is really more about the Tenth Amendment than it is the Second Amendment.
01:36:02.000This is about preserving states' rights.
01:36:05.000This is about This is about an executive order, an edict by a king, not having prominence over the legislative process that's laid out in both the Texas and U.S.
01:36:22.000And so where things are going really well with this legislation is out in the streets, in homes and businesses and restaurants all over Texas.
01:36:37.000The problem is that there are going to be some competing bills that are more moderate.
01:36:41.000We don't need a moderate approach to a desperate problem that is facing America.
01:36:48.000We need a strong bill that has real teeth, that day one, when it goes into effect, the Obama administration is going to file an injunction, in the 5th Circuit probably, to put a stop to it so that this gets challenged all the way to the Supreme Court.
01:37:10.000And so if a moderate bill goes through without any teeth that they can just overlook and ignore, then that's what will happen.
01:37:18.000So there are a lot of different bills right now, but we need for people in the state of Texas to get behind the Firearms Protection Act because that is the bill, that is the legislation that has the teeth in it that the Obama administration is going to force their hand.
01:37:52.000We're going to get a bill through in response to what the President has done.
01:37:56.000The problem is that there are some more moderate bills that have come forward.
01:38:01.000Since, you know, since this whole thing, since this media firestorm has erupted over the issue, there are some more moderate bills that have come forward that are, that frankly are going to undermine what we're trying to do here.
01:38:14.000When you say moderate, for example, your bill makes it a felony crime for a federal official to try to enforce an unconstitutional order in the state of Texas.
01:38:23.000Are you saying that, for example, that felony is not present in a less powerful bill?
01:38:31.000It almost looks more like a suggestion or a House resolution than it does a bill.
01:38:56.000You know, the thing about that bill is that it started too late.
01:39:00.000If it had started in January, like this one is, then that bill would have had That bill would have had what our bill has right now, which is it's got this broad base of support from people all over Texas.
01:39:37.000You know, I don't know if I'm going to get on a faith-backed track here for a second, but this has been so encouraging, and the Lord has so encouraged us over, and I'll tell you why.
01:40:02.000What was really cool is our office got a call yesterday from Kendall's sister.
01:40:07.000And she said, you know, of all the states that Kendall's sister could live in, what do you think the chances are that his sister out of 50 states just happens to live in Texas?
01:40:17.000And out of the 150 house districts across the state of Texas, what are the chances that I live in Steve's district?
01:40:33.000You guys are trying to do it the right way.
01:40:35.000And we want the people in the state of Texas to get behind it because If Abraham Lincoln said this, he said, if you don't have the people behind you, you can't do anything great.
01:40:46.000I don't want to do something moderate.
01:40:51.000If you guys get fired up about it, if you're willing to call your representatives and your senators about it, then we can get a strong bill through.
01:41:00.000And also, because this is a national and even a global audience, this matters to all of you who are listening right now, no matter what state you live in in the United States or even what country you live in, because if Texas can set the precedent to standing up to unconstitutional executive orders from the executive branch of the because if Texas can set the precedent to standing up to unconstitutional executive orders from the executive branch of the federal government, that sets a Yeah, I mean, think about this folks.
01:41:25.000When you take your kid to the pediatrician, Do you want the pediatrician saying to little Johnny, hey, does your mom or your daddy have a gun at home?
01:42:12.0003,700 pages of nebulous, innocuous stuff.
01:42:16.000Oh, don't worry about it, it's fuzzy, it's fluffy, it's cuddly, don't worry about it, there are no sharp edges to it whatsoever.
01:42:22.000It gets passed, now it's 37,000 pages.
01:42:25.000The only thing worse than a politician that's been in Austin or Washington too long is an unelected bureaucrat that's been there too long.
01:42:33.000And they're the ones, they're the dangerous ones that will put words and that will put substance to these 23 actions that the President has handed out.
01:42:45.000Folks, you better be worried about it.
01:42:47.000Let me ask your opinion Attorney General, Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott put out an ad recently in New York and I love this and I love what Mr. Abbott has done here and this was written up in Reuters with the following title Y'all come to Texas, state official tells New York gun owners.
01:43:09.000I mean, he helped organize it to say that if you want to come to a state where you have more freedom and lower taxes and more liberties, come to Texas and bring your rifle and your ammunition.
01:43:21.000What are your thoughts on Mr. Abbott's actions in regard to that publicity?
01:43:25.000I mean, I hit on that last night when I was on Hannity, and I had a very close friend of mine that saw the interview, and he said, if you'll get my resume, Margaret and I will pack our bags tomorrow.
01:44:07.000And I'm just here to tell you, the quality of the living will be twice as good and the cost of living will be a third of what you're paying anywhere else.
01:44:15.000Absolutely that's that's one of the reasons I'm here and plus I just just love the Liberty and I love I am proud of being in Texas and knowing that Texas has people like you Mr. Toth and people like Mr. Abbott who I hear has aims maybe for the governorship which maybe Maybe he'd be the perfect person to do that down the road when that opportunity arises, but I am just proud to be in a state that says, we have liberty here and we're going to stand for it.
01:44:40.000We are going to stand up against tyranny.
01:44:43.000We're going to pass the laws that nullify unconstitutional orders.
01:44:46.000We are Texans and we're not laying down for a bunch of tyrants.
01:45:20.000Which one of these bills... Do you want something more moderate?
01:45:23.000They'll support something more moderate.
01:45:25.000But if they hear from the grassroots of Texas, If they want to build with teeth in it, then tell the Attorney General's office that you're going to stand behind the Firearms Protection Act, and you want him to as well.
01:45:38.000Respectfully, because he's a good man.
01:45:43.000All of you out there who are tired of being oppressed and having your rights eroded by executive orders or the federal government in whatever way.
01:45:52.000And there's a lot of this happening in agriculture too with the Food Safety Modernization Act that just hammers small farmers in Texas as well.
01:46:36.000Well, it started with... Here's the problem.
01:46:40.000When you start a government agency, you can't kill it.
01:46:42.000So we have these education service centers in the state of Texas that 20, 30 years ago, when we were in school, and you wanted a film strip or you wanted a 16mm movie, You would go to the Education Service Center where they were, you know, the vault, basically, for all the equipment and all these great films and slides and everything else.
01:47:01.000Well, we don't need that anymore because we have this thing called the Internet and streaming video and audio and all that cool stuff.
01:47:09.000So, like any good government agency, it became a solution in search of a problem.
01:47:15.000And so what they did was they came out with this thing called Seascope.
01:47:18.000They spent millions of dollars of taxpayers' money on it.
01:47:21.000And it's not under the guise, it's not under the supervision, auspices of the State Board of Education.
01:47:28.000These liberals that are running it can basically say and do anything that they want without the approval of the State Board of Education who are elected by we the people.
01:47:36.000But you see that's their attack point now is to try to indoctrinate the next generation.
01:47:43.000And with all these TV shows, too, that are coming out, I don't know how much you're aware of those, but this show about they hate Paul Revere, and a show demonizing the Founding Fathers, and most of these shows... Get this.
01:47:54.000Our founding fathers, the Tea Party, the Boston Tea Party, they're referred to in Seascope as terrorists.
01:48:37.000Alex Jones obviously has been threatened many, many times.
01:48:41.000Are you taking steps to make sure that they don't put you in a situation that could compromise your integrity on spearheading this kind of bill?
01:49:44.000You know, this job only pays 600 bucks a month.
01:49:49.000You're not going to get rich doing it.
01:49:50.000In fact, your business probably will end up taking a hit as a result of it.
01:49:56.000But if we don't stand up, all of us, we've all got a part to play.
01:50:00.000Even if it's just calling the Attorney General and calling the Governor and calling your State Representative to say, get behind the Firearms Protection Act.
01:50:55.000That was Representative Toth with the update on the Firearms Protection Act in the state of Texas.
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01:54:15.000We just finished up an interview with Representative Steve Toth from the state of Texas and the Firearms Protection Act and I want to reiterate why this matters to everybody across the nation and wherever you may be listening from.
01:54:29.000This is a precedent-setting bill and it's based on the bill out of Wyoming and that really that the author of that bill deserves the credit but The language of this bill can be shared with many other states and there are lots of other states who would like to get on board and stand up to the federal government and say enough is enough.
01:54:47.000We're not going to let our rights be trampled on any longer.
01:54:51.000Because look where this is going folks.
01:54:54.000If you don't stand up to this, The Second Amendment is not the end of this.
01:54:58.000They're going to come after your First Amendment.
01:55:00.000They're going to come after your Fifth Amendment even more than they have already.
01:55:03.000They're going to obliterate states' rights and basically say there shouldn't be any states whatsoever.
01:55:09.000And with the executive orders, Obama's going to be saying, well, we don't need Congress either.
01:55:13.000What's the point of having Congress when the president just writes law?
01:55:17.000This is the basis of the downfall of our free society, and it has already begun.
01:55:23.000We have already started to tumble down that pit of tyranny and oppression, and if we don't turn back from that right now, it's over.
01:55:34.000So you better get on the phone right now.
01:55:36.000If you're in the state of Texas, you better get on the phone.
01:55:39.000Call Attorney General Greg Abbott's office and tell him, yes, you support the full, the full-on Firearms Protection Act that makes it a felony for federal officials to engage in unconstitutional gun restriction in the state of Texas.
01:55:53.000You better call your state representatives wherever you live and tell them, introduce the Firearms Protection Act.
01:55:59.000Because if you don't, if you don't draw the line right here, it's over.
01:56:03.000And let me tell you my personal prediction of what I think is coming up.
01:56:09.000Why didn't Obama have a high-capacity magazine restriction in his executive orders?
01:56:17.000There was all this talk that he was going to do that, but he backed off it seems.
01:56:55.000And I'm here to tell you, independently, not even based on what Alex said, or InfoWars, or anybody else, but just myself, as Mike Adams, as an intelligent, investigative journalist, with no criminal record, absolutely, you know, the cleanest cut guy you'll ever meet, I don't smoke, I don't drink alcohol, I never have consumed alcohol, just my personal choice, clean cut guy, super clean record, passed all the FBI background checks, all the ATF checks, you know, for Class 4 gear, you name it.
01:57:25.000You're not going to find somebody with a cleaner record than myself.
01:57:29.000By looking at the data, I am telling you, I believe that they are going to stage another major false flag attack during the debate of gun control restrictions in the U.S.
01:57:42.000Because they know that if they stage something big enough, and I'm talking about something like blowing up federal buildings, More than what we saw in Oklahoma City.
01:57:51.000Something even perhaps bigger than 9-11.
01:57:53.000I'm talking about perhaps them doing a dirty bomb, a radiological attack, or a biological attack in a major U.S.
01:58:02.000city and somehow finding some way to blame that on patriots.
01:58:10.000Because if they do that, and if they can blame it on patriots, and they get the media screaming again and again about how the patriots made this happen and killed a million people in some major city, they'll declare martial law, there won't be another election, you won't have any rights whatsoever, and they'll drive America into an all-out war.
02:00:34.000Now, coming up in the next segment, we've got Dr. Andrew Wakefield joining us here live in studio here in Austin, Texas, to give us the latest information on the U.S.
02:00:44.000Vaccine Court admitting that vaccines cause autism.
02:00:49.000Plus, we're going to get Dr. Wakefield's take on the new psychiatric police state that has just been formed in America by Obama and his 23 executive orders.
02:00:59.000There was an outstanding breakdown of those executive orders, filmed and posted by Aaron Dykes right here on the InfoWars team just, I think, yesterday or the night before that went up.
02:01:10.000Seven of the 23 executive orders have something to do with mental health.
02:01:13.000So you can bet they're going to start using psychiatry as a weapon against freedom.
02:01:18.000While completely ignoring the fact that psychiatry actually creates violent shooters and has been linked to most of these shootings that have taken place.
02:01:27.000So wow, what a total scam, a total racket.
02:01:30.000They're making the problem worse while ignoring the real causes of violence in America today.
02:01:36.000Two things I wanted to cover, though, real quick, before we bring Dr. Wakefield in studio.
02:01:42.000One is that, you know, you've got Obama and all these people talking about background checks, that we need to have universal background checks.
02:01:50.000Why not have universal background checks for presidents?
02:01:53.000Because, let me tell you this, you know that Obama's birth certificate has, I don't know, 17 layers in Adobe Acrobat.
02:02:03.000It's copied and pasted and the resolution is different in different parts of the document.
02:02:09.000Anybody who knows Photoshop or Acrobat can see that his birth certificate is a fake.
02:02:15.000Now, if you or I submitted a document like that as part of a background check to purchase a gun, we would be arrested for document fraud.
02:02:24.000We would be guilty of a felony crime for submitting the same type of document, which is an obvious fraud, that the president of our country is using to claim that he's qualified to be president.
02:02:35.000Or that he meets the constitutional requirements.
02:02:39.000So why not have universal background checks for presidents?
02:03:11.000You get an F on liberty, an F on the Constitution, you get an F in Washington on just about everything you're doing today, except those few people that are standing up And a big thumbs up to Rand Paul, by the way, for his comments on saying that we don't want a king in America today.
02:03:27.000We've had enough of kings running our lives.
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02:03:44.000He came out last night and Oprah, who's trying to save her network from terrible ratings, had Lance Armstrong on to have a staged confession.
02:03:54.000During which Lance Armstrong admitted that he's been lying all along.
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02:08:17.000In Dallas, Texas, three shots were fired at President Kennedy's motorcade in downtown Dallas.
02:08:22.000The first reports say that President Kennedy has been seriously wounded by the shooting.
02:09:23.000But aren't we all just living and dying for what the central banks do?
02:09:26.000As for me, give me liberty or give me death!
02:09:32.000Live from the InfoWars.com studios, it's Alex Jones.
02:09:40.000All right, welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
02:09:42.000This is Mike Adams, the editor of NaturalNews.com, filling in for Alex today.
02:09:47.000And in studio joining me now for the rest of this hour is none other than Dr. Andrew Wakefield with some breaking news on the U.S.
02:09:55.000vaccine court and its recent decision tying vaccines to autism without any question whatsoever.
02:10:01.000So he'll be breaking that down for us in some detail.
02:10:04.000Also, We're going to get Dr. Wakefield's take on some of the possible implications of the recent executive orders focused on mental health and psychiatry, and I've even got a copy of the psychiatry bible, so to speak, here with me, and we're going to cover oppositional defiance disorder, ODD, which is actually in the psychiatry manual, even though people said I made that up.
02:10:30.000I didn't make it up, and I'm going to show it to you in the book as we continue here.
02:10:34.000Plus, we're going to be taking your calls, so if you've got a question for Dr. Wakefield, I'd like to take your call.
02:10:46.000800-259-9231 if you've got a question on psychiatry or Dr. Wakefield.
02:10:50.000If you called earlier for Paul Watson's guest or Representative Toth, We're going to have to drop you and take new calls on psychiatry and questions for Dr. Wakefield.
02:11:01.000So go ahead and clear the board, guys, and let new people call back in.
02:11:04.000And I apologize if you were on hold, but, you know, things are moving very quickly.
02:11:08.000So, Dr. Wakefield, welcome to the Alex Jones Show.
02:11:10.000It's good to have you in studio again.
02:12:03.000I want the American people to see and judge this man for themselves and to judge the quality and the veracity of his story and they will see how flawed he really is.
02:12:12.000Or he could just remain a fugitive from justice, I guess, and refuse to come, and what, you might have to go into extradition proceedings in the UK, or how would that even work?
02:12:21.000Well, it's interesting, and it's probably a technical aspect of law, but I would imagine that we would then file a case in England, and he would then be in contempt of the UK courts, but that's another matter.
02:12:30.000The BMJ themselves have to come, because they sell here.
02:12:33.000This is one of their outlets, so they're obliged if we win the jurisdictional battle.
02:12:40.000I appreciate your veracity, your dedication to pursuing this and not allowing them to just steamroll you with their slanderous, completely false analysis.
02:12:50.000I mean, they literally just invented things about your research that they pulled out of thin air.
02:12:55.000Yeah, you know what, the problem here, Mike, is so much bigger.
02:12:57.000As you probably know, there is an increasing level of attack on scientists and physicians who are acting in the best interests of their patients and not in the best interests of the government or the pharmaceutical industry.
02:13:09.000And there is a relentless assault on the few, perhaps five, ten scientists in the world who are prepared to work on the possible association between vaccines and childhood developmental disorders like autism.
02:13:21.000And if we do not protect those scientists and doctors, then you're going to find nobody who's prepared to stand up in vaccine court to protect these children because that's the end of their career.
02:13:29.000You're going to find no scientist who's prepared to do the valid safety science on vaccines because it'll be the end of their career.
02:13:40.000As a body, as scientists, as a community, as a people and say these people are valuable and need to be protected and that is exactly what we're doing here.
02:13:47.000This is about the integrity of science.
02:14:14.000There's been significant breaking news that you brought to my attention, an article published at HuffPost.
02:14:20.000Vaccine Court awards millions to two children with autism.
02:14:24.000The court has made the determination that there is a causal link between vaccinations and the development of autism in those children, and they were given an award.
02:14:37.000It's a game changer, and it comes on the back of an Italian decision in the Remedy Court Which made an identical decision.
02:14:42.000Here we have a child who was developing perfectly normally in Italy, who had the MMR and regressed into autism.
02:14:47.000He developed all the typical characteristics that we described originally in Lancet, including gastrointestinal symptoms, encephalopathy, in other words, generalized brain dysfunction, and his final diagnosis was autism.
02:15:01.000The government, importantly, did not fight it.
02:15:04.000They agreed that the MMR had caused his autism.
02:15:07.000They fought it on the basis that they do not make MMR vaccination mandatory in Italy.
02:15:13.000Whereas the judge said, no, sorry, you put so much pressure on parents to have this vaccine, you are to blame now.
02:15:18.000We have this ruling in the US vaccine court where you have exactly the same sequence of events.
02:15:24.000Normally developing children get the MMR plus another vaccine in each case of these two children.
02:15:30.000They then regress into, they have this encephalopathy, a rash, a fever, loss of language, loss of speech, loss of interaction with their siblings, and a regression into autism.
02:15:42.000And what this brings to the public attention once and for all is that the American Vaccine Court, the Department of Justice have been hiding behind The vaccine caught for so long behind their table injuries.
02:15:56.000Now we have a clear sequence of events which links vaccines, MMR in particular, to autism.
02:16:02.000All right, if you're just joining us, this is the Alex Jones Show.
02:16:05.000Mike Adams filling in an interview with Dr. Andrew Wakefield live here in studio in Austin, Texas.
02:16:12.000And a lot of breaking news on the vaccine front.
02:16:14.000Now, we published a story not too long ago, Dr. Wakefield, where the CDC admits on their website, and we took a screenshot, quoted their information, they admit that vaccines contain mercury, aluminum, MSG, monosodium glutamate, and formaldehyde.
02:16:32.000Now, these four substances, should any doctor, in any circumstance, ever inject a child with aluminum, mercury, MSG or formaldehyde?
02:16:54.000A recent report from the Institute of Medicine saying that there is a parlous lack of information on vaccine safety science, both in terms of the schedule of the dose that children get and when they get it.
02:17:14.000But it brings up the question, why won't the CDC, the FDA, and the pro-vaccine doctors out there, why won't they say, let's make a clean vaccine?
02:17:25.000Let's make clean vaccines with no mercury, no thimerosal, no MSG, no formaldehyde, nothing.
02:17:31.000Just single-dose vials, right, so they don't need a preservative because they're not used for multiple doses.
02:18:20.00089% of American parents in a recent study from University of Michigan said that vaccine safety science was their number one medical research priority.
02:18:34.000They do not believe what their pediatrician is telling them they're seeing in their communities, on their streets, in their schools.
02:18:40.000So many children who are being damaged by these vaccines, with autism at the sort of spearhead of all this, that they do not believe what they're being told.
02:18:49.000And it's obvious that they damage children.
02:18:50.000I mean, I remember even Donald Trump said on the air a couple of months ago that his employees had perfectly healthy children, took them in to the pediatrician, they got vaccinated.
02:18:59.000The next morning, lights are out, the child's autistic.
02:19:03.000And it happens to people over and over and over again.
02:19:07.000There is a temporal correlation between getting the vaccine and getting autism.
02:19:13.000How can the scientific community even call itself scientific if it dismisses all of this powerful evidence?
02:19:22.000My job as a physician and a scientist is to look for patterns in disease, patterns in clinical presentation, and the pattern here is so common, so similar, and it's exactly as you heard in these court settlements.
02:19:34.000Normal child, vaccine, prolonged fever, rash, debilitation, the child goes downhill, their immune system goes to pieces, and they are never the same again.
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02:24:21.000We are continuing our interview here in studio with Dr. Andrew Wakefield.
02:24:25.000Yes, the Dr. Wakefield, the champion of academic integrity when it comes to, on scientific integrity actually, more importantly, when it comes to vaccines and investigating with a sense of scientific skepticism.
02:24:38.000What could be the links between vaccines and childhood development disorders such as autism, but not limited to autism?
02:24:45.000And Dr. Wakefield continues with us in the studio right now.
02:25:01.000In order to protect doctors and scientists who are acting in the interests of their patients, but who are being attacked by whatever mainstream medicine is, by the pharmaceutical industry, by the media, because they are not complying with the rules that protect the stock price of various pharmaceutical products.
02:25:25.000And this is a fund that people can pay into, which will protect the legal rights, will allow the people who are coming under attack to fight back, whether it's in the courts or elsewhere.
02:25:35.000And it's starting with my case right here in Texas, in an attempt to get Brian Deer and the British Medical Journal in front of a Texas jury.
02:25:42.000And are there... I know it takes money to fight for justice, big time.
02:25:47.000Are there some attorneys also doing some pro bono work as part of it or discounted work?
02:25:51.000I have an outstanding group of attorneys who are working at a discounted rate because they believe very strongly in the merits of this case.
02:25:59.000Well, I'm going to make a donation, by the way.
02:26:01.000I've been doing a lot of donations lately.
02:26:19.000So we take money from our store sales and we just push it into all these things that need support.
02:26:24.000But thank you for mentioning that website.
02:26:26.000But continuing on, what do you think about this flu, so-called flu pandemic, almost a fear-mongering thing the CDC is doing right now, saying, oh, the flu is terrible, everybody should go get vaccinated.
02:26:37.000Isn't that too simplistic of an answer?
02:26:40.000We've seen this time and time again, Mike, and I'm not an expert on flu vaccine, but I do know that, for example, flu mutates at a phenomenally fast rate, so predicting which vaccine is going to work against the current flu is such a hit-and-miss affair.
02:26:52.000And we've seen from analyses, detailed, comprehensive scientific analyses of all the data, on flu vaccine around the world in the Cochrane Review that these vaccines, their benefit is minimal at best and restricted to certain groups not seen in high-risk groups and therefore there is no merit in those high-risk groups getting them and the Canadians showing that if you get the flu after being vaccinated because it does not work well then it is worse.
02:27:17.000You develop a more severe pattern of disease if you have been vaccinated.
02:27:21.000The CDC, which I am convinced just invents numbers out of thin air.
02:27:26.000I mean, they just pull these out of their hats.
02:27:29.000And they say if you get the vaccine, your flu will be less severe, but they have absolutely no data to back that up.
02:27:35.000And they say the vaccine is now, I think they're quoting, it's 62% effective.
02:27:43.000I'm sure they do, and they have the ability to make a sow's ear out of a silk purse for the CDC, and I think that's what they've done here.
02:27:53.000And when you hear these numbers about the people who've had to go to the hospital because they've got flu, how many of those people were vaccinated?
02:27:59.000Were they part of that group that the Canadians say are going to be worse if they get the flu after having been vaccinated?
02:28:06.000I did a little bit of a survey on that and I found that about two-thirds, in my group of friends and employees and so on, about two-thirds of the people who went to the hospital with influenza, I'm not talking about my employees, they're typically healthy, but people they know, two-thirds of them had been vaccinated against the flu.
02:28:27.000If the flu works, I mean, if the flu vaccine works, then how can two-thirds of the people in the hospital with the flu be people who got vaccinated?
02:28:36.000Yeah, there's something very bad going wrong here, and the idea that you're going to give mercury-containing flu vaccines to pregnant women...
02:28:44.000And to children over the age of six months, this is unacceptable.
02:28:48.000Tell me about when you were trained in med school.
02:28:52.000Weren't you taught never give a vaccine to a pregnant woman?
02:29:19.000But the CDC and the vaccine pushers, they engage in what I might call magical thinking, where they say the mercury doesn't harm you because we say it doesn't.
02:29:26.000We wave a magic wand, we do a little voodoo, big pharma profit voodoo, and suddenly the mercury is safe.
02:29:33.000They've said the science shows that the science is in.
02:29:35.000Two years ago, the paper came out showing that 74% of the published science shows that there is an association between heavy metal containing vaccines and autism.
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02:33:53.000You know, there was a small health, natural health company here that was exposing all this information on a daily basis.
02:34:02.000And the FTC went after him, it was called Daniel Chapter 1, and basically, yeah, they attacked their First Amendment rights, and if they were to say anything about this anymore, they're basically going to put him in prison.
02:34:14.000So they ended their radio program, you know, we need the support of the people, that's the problem.
02:34:20.000They're killing the messenger, you know, they're going after the messenger.
02:34:24.000And they're doing it, I mean the Federal Trade Commission is who went after him, not the CDC.
02:34:31.000I'm very familiar with that case, that's a good point.
02:34:33.000Daniel Chapter 1 was actually a ministry and they sold some cancer therapies, herbal, and they dared to go on the air and to say that some of these herbs are mentioned in the Bible and they can actually help you heal from cancer.
02:34:49.000What do you see happening, Dr. Wakefield, and thank you, caller, for your call, but what do you see happening with attacks on the First Amendment rights of people who are attempting to raise awareness among the public of alternative or holistic healing therapies?
02:35:05.000There are myriad cases of local health authorities, local regulators going after alternative practitioners.
02:35:13.000I mean, these attacks are going on all the time.
02:35:15.000In fact, Texas is probably one of the worst states in the country for that.
02:35:22.000Absolutely, a classic example, where I gather that they've now tried, the FDA are trying to get the patent on his products, you know, having hacked him for years.
02:35:32.000Now that's what I've heard through the grapevine.
02:35:34.000Whether it's true or not, it would be a wonderful irony to conclude that story, as long as he comes out of it well.
02:35:40.000One of the greatest groups guilty of biopiracy is Big Pharma.
02:35:47.000They will attack an herb and say it's useless, it's useless, it's useless, and then they will steal a molecule from that herb, like turmeric for example, they'll modify it, patent it, and then say this is the best drug ever!
02:35:59.000Oh yeah, and they're in the jungles now collecting a number of plants and herbs that they believe may be the future to their success because they've run out of other things apart from vaccines to profit from.
02:36:10.000But the biggest impact I see is in the media.
02:36:13.000You know, here we have a case where, a classic case, a groundbreaking case, two cases where the vaccine called awards for children who develop autism following MMR vaccine.
02:36:29.000Because their revenues derive from advertising dollars from the pharmaceutical industry.
02:36:33.000And that was a 1997 decision, I believe, from the FDA that legalized pharmaceutical advertising on mainstream television, because before that it was illegal, and it remains illegal in most every other nation around the world.
02:36:46.000And what they did, Mike, is I think quite a smart thing, is that they paid a lot of money.
02:36:50.000And so the media became dependent on that income.
02:36:53.000You know, it's like you kind of ramp things up according to the income that you get and then you can't do without it.
02:36:59.000And so suddenly they've got them right where they want them.
02:37:56.000There's a big issue, several big issues here, actually.
02:37:58.000One is, are the origins of your child's anger and violence or aggressive issues due to underlying pain or discomfort?
02:38:07.000One thing we've discovered, in fact we reported years and years ago, 15 years ago, is these children have an inflammatory bowel disease in many cases, and that is a cause of gastrointestinal symptoms, constipation, diarrhea, alternating constipation and diarrhea, pain.
02:38:20.000Kids in pain, sudden outbursts of anger, and when you correct that intestinal inflammation, all that goes away.
02:38:27.000In other words, is there a need for a reappraisal of children for medical problems, underlying medical problems?
02:38:34.000Do they not need to be on pharmaceutical agents for anger and depression at all?
02:38:42.000Yeah, if someone has chronic ongoing pain, digestive pain, or even musculoskeletal pain, whatever the case may be, You know, they're going to be kind of crabby and maybe depressed and in a bad mood.
02:38:57.000It's absolutely essential to rule out physiological medical problems before you resort to the belief that this is a psychiatric problem and then put them on major medications which may have any number of adverse effects and for what are not indicated.
02:39:11.000...for autism or Asperger's disorders in these children, so there may be an alternative approach.
02:39:25.000So Rob, if there are, you know, if there are any underlying symptoms that might be corrected, please bear that in mind and get, take that approach first.
02:39:33.000Alright, very good, very good question, Rob.
02:39:35.000And by the way, here, overhead cam shot, this is the DSM, right here, DSM for the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the so-called Bible of modern psychiatry, and check it out, here it is, page 100, Oppositional Defiant Disorder.
02:39:53.000Oppositional Defiant Disorder, right here.
02:39:59.000You can be diagnosed with this, and I imagine you and I have both been, quote, diagnosed with this, by simply disagreeing with someone in a position of authority.
02:41:34.000It's a massive, thick manual, and it's getting bigger in version 5.
02:41:37.000All they do is they observe a lot of nutritional deficiencies, a lot of underlying problems, and they give it a bunch of different names.
02:41:43.000This is like physicists looking for the god particle and naming all the little things they spot in the supercolliders, saying, oh, that's the muon, that's the gluon, that's the bluon, whatever they name it.
02:41:52.000It's like, no, people, there's one unified theory underneath all this.
02:41:57.000You're just naming things to try to make it sound scientific.
02:42:00.000There's really only a couple of basic, core, fundamental, physiological truths or physical truths underneath all this.
02:42:07.000Yeah, one of the great truths, Mike, is you go back and you talk to the mother.
02:42:40.000So, right in line with your conversation about the DSM, I was a victim of doctors who basically used that book as their bible.
02:42:49.000When I was a kid, my parents made me go see a therapist, and I basically started making things up based on what I was reading as diagnosis for certain things.
02:43:03.000I actually read Michael Creighton's Terminal Man.
02:43:07.000And basically just started telling them I was having all the symptoms that the main character in that book had.
02:45:00.000Thank you for your call, Dr. Wakefield.
02:45:01.000Let's talk about the pressure that physicians and even physicians assistants and so on put on new moms to be injected even before childbirth, during childbirth, and after childbirth, even the medicalization of childbirth in our country today, around the world, even the medicalization of childbirth in our country today, around the world, all of Well, Mike, any pressure, any pressure at all in the absence of informed consent and adequate safety studies is too much.
02:45:30.000There is huge pressure and there are no safety studies particularly of giving the vaccines to mothers during pregnancy where it's been specifically contraindicated in the past.
02:45:40.000Causes stillbirth or causes spontaneous abortions.
02:45:43.000Yeah, and there is no informed consent.
02:45:45.000A friend of mine went for a vaccine, in fact, to go into nursing school the other day, and she was given two MMRs just a month apart.
02:45:53.000There's never, ever, ever, ever been a safety study of that procedure.
02:45:57.000When asked why should I have a second MMR, After the first one just a month ago and she said well the mumps vaccine doesn't work.
02:46:13.000Just because that's all they've got because that's all they're prepared to manufacture.
02:46:16.000Well, and also, what about veterinary medicine?
02:46:19.000Because if the theory behind vaccines is that you inject your dog with a vaccine and the dog's body builds antibodies to that vaccine, why do you get a card or an email from your vet every year, oh, your dog needs the same vaccine again every year?
02:46:35.000I thought the theory was that the antibodies are there.
02:46:37.000They don't go away, at least not, I mean, they're not supposed to.
02:47:14.000Particularly for mumps vaccine, the vaccine is successful for the pharmaceutical industry precisely because it doesn't work.
02:47:21.000And therefore the volume of sales goes up dramatically.
02:47:23.000That's exactly it, because when people go get the mumps vaccine, they have a false sense of security, thinking they're protected from the mumps, and they might thereby not take other precautions, such as boosting vitamin D intake, which is very powerful for preventing mumps and many other infectious diseases.
02:47:41.000The vaccines not working is what makes them sell so well, and it allows the CDC to put out another fear-mongering announcement, oh, there's another epidemic of mumps, better go get vaccinated, even though it doesn't work.
02:47:52.000That's right, and we're seeing mumps outbreaks in highly vaccinated populations now, precisely because it doesn't work.
02:47:58.000And it was a vaccine that was never needed in the first place.
02:48:00.000Not my word, the CDC's word, and the Department of Health in England.
02:48:03.000Why doesn't the media, I mean I guess we already know the answer, but it's just, it's a shame the media never ever reports that in every outbreak they cover, most of those who suffer from the outbreak, whether it's mumps or flu or something else, have already been vaccinated against that very thing.
02:48:21.000Yes, the reporting in the media of the vaccine issue is so one-sided, so distorted, so pro-the CDC, pro-the pharmaceutical industry, pro-more and more vaccines.
02:48:34.000We're not going to get the truth from the mainstream media, I'm afraid, and that's going to last for some time.
02:48:39.000Yeah, we're not going to get truth from them on any front.
02:48:43.000Let's go to another caller, Nick in Pennsylvania.
02:49:03.000Absolutely, and Dr. Wakefield, I just want to say it's really a pleasure, sir, to be talking to you.
02:49:11.000I myself actually am one of America's few remaining pioneer research scientists, and it's such a good coincidence that you happen to be on, because there is a couple of subjects that I'd like to talk to you about of very important concern.
02:49:29.000Okay, one of the subjects is I definitely agree with the vaccine problem, especially being given to children, infants, babies.
02:49:39.000There's definitely a problem with mercury and heavy metals, and I think that there absolutely positively is a link to autism because of that mercury.
02:49:50.000That's why, as far as tuna fish is concerned, that has finally been brought to light, that you have to be careful with certain fish you eat because of the mercury levels that are high in certain types of fish.
02:50:43.000I'm told by the experts that mercury is second only to plutonium on this planet as a toxin, so it's not safe in any form or in any dose.
02:50:52.000There are no safe levels, no safe forms.
02:50:55.000The idea that one's better than the other... We'll be right back.
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02:54:34.000But Dr. Wakefield continues with us in the studio here for this last segment, so let's get right to the question of psychiatric drugs and their links to violent shooters time and time again.
02:54:44.000Dr. Wakefield, although I know perhaps Psychiatry, obviously, is not your specialty, but you are a well-trained M.D.
02:54:52.000or you're a skeptical thinking scientist.
02:54:55.000What are your thoughts on psychiatric drugs and violent shootings?
02:54:58.000You know, it's interesting because it brings in the subject of autism again.
02:55:02.000Back in 1996, I was first introduced to this.
02:55:04.000Do you remember the Port Arthur massacre in Tasmania?
02:55:08.000A guy in the early morning shot over 40 people, 45 people dead in a cafe.
02:55:13.000And it was said at the time that he had Asperger syndrome, high-functioning autism.
02:55:18.000And when you go back and read the psychiatric records from the prison psychiatrist who assessed him there, he had symptoms which specifically precluded Asperger's.
02:55:26.000In other words, the common denominator was not that they had a psychiatric or an autistic spectrum disorder.
02:55:32.000So I went back and I reviewed so many of these cases that have occurred of multiple killings, actions of mass violence in schools or some shopping malls.
02:55:55.000And in many cases, psychotropic medications that were not licensed, not indicated for the particular problem that they had.
02:56:02.000There is no, or there certainly was at that time, no psychotropic medication that could be used for treating Asperger's and what we now find Is that in the last few years, Janssen Pharmaceuticals, subsidiary of J&J, Abbott Laboratories and GlaxoSmithKline have been pushing these drugs off-label to vulnerable children in many cases.
02:56:20.000And they've been sued by some states for the off-label marketing of their drugs as well.
02:56:24.000Absolutely, and I've seen this at first hand.
02:56:26.000I've seen violence in children with autism at first hand, not because they're autistic.
02:56:30.000But I believe because they're being pushed these drugs off license for inducements like going to a golf day or going to the spa.
02:56:37.000It's absolutely farcical and disgraceful that doctors have put children at risk giving them these powerful drugs that were never indicated for the problems that they have.
02:56:48.000And I believe that a large part of the risk factor for these outbreaks of mass violence is the drugs that they're on.
02:56:54.000Well said, and just to clarify, when I say they've been sued by the states, I don't know if those you mentioned have been sued, but I know by and large big pharmaceutical companies have been sued time and time again.
02:57:07.000One of the things we know about these drugs is they tend to create a sense of cognitive detachment from reality.
02:57:13.000So, for example, the Columbine shooters said that they believe they were playing out a first-person shooter video game.
02:57:19.000So some people might start to blame video games, but I think more is the mindset, the detachment in the mind that's caused by the psychiatric drugs.
02:57:29.000So is this detachment something that you've also seen as a pattern in other violent outbursts?
02:57:34.000Well, it's difficult to tell exactly what's going on in the mind of people When they're having, for example, violent ideation, are they playing a game?
02:57:43.000Do they suddenly feel the world is against them?
02:57:45.000With the SSRIs, the second generation antidepressants, it's often violence in those people who have no history whatsoever of violent behavior.
02:57:52.000They suddenly have these violent outbursts.
02:57:55.000And I've seen it in some of our patients, and it stops when we stop the drug.
02:57:58.000And isn't it interesting that Obama's 23 executive orders, not one of them Looked at the link between psychiatric drugs and violent shootings.
02:58:07.000So he may be ignoring the actual cause of all this.
02:58:10.000I don't know, you don't know, but we do know that that's a common denominator and to miss it out in trying to find the culprit for these outbreaks means that there are going to be more and more of these attacks because they're not getting to the heart, the core problem that is causing them the first blood.
02:58:23.000Well they want more attacks, Dr. Wakefield.
02:58:25.000They want more attacks because it'll let them ban more firearms, knives, hammers, you name it.
02:58:30.000Thank you for being on the show, Dr. Wakefield.
02:58:32.000Retransmission begins now and thank you for joining us today here on the Alex Jones Show.