In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, Alex Jones talks about the disappearance of a Florida family and the government cover-up surrounding it. He also talks about a new conspiracy theory that the government is trying to kill us all.
00:00:13.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:21.000Ladies and gentlemen, we are live. we are live.
00:00:41.000It is Friday, the fifth day already, hard to believe, of April 2013, and we are going to be live here for the next three hours.
00:00:53.000I've got Chuck Baldwin, a former Constitution Party candidate, joining us, coming up at the bottom of the next hour to get into the Southern Baptist Convention.
00:01:06.000The official Vatican newspapers here in the United States, you name it, calling for an abolition of the Second Amendment.
00:01:14.000Absolutely state-run, government-controlled religious groups in this country.
00:01:35.000They're restricting the use of the term Islamicist.
00:01:39.000Can't even call Al Qaeda terrorists now, because they're the good guys overthrowing Libya and Syria, and now you can call anybody that wants liberty a right-wing extremist or a constitutionalist and extremist.
00:02:14.000They claim they took their children, their two little boys, because they found a small amount of marijuana.
00:02:24.000The government's going to take your children for a small amount of marijuana and they hadn't gotten them back over a year later.
00:02:31.000That is a predatory government that publicly grows the opium and loads it on the C-130s in Afghanistan to fly heroin into America onto the streets and into your sons' and daughters' veins.
00:03:54.000Yesterday, watching all the newscasts, just talking trash about two parents that had the will and the courage to get their kids back from an evil government.
00:04:02.000I mean, if you saved somebody from a Nazi death camp, you better believe it was on the radio that terrorists had stolen, you know, a prisoner.
00:04:11.000I mean, if aliens sat down in flying saucers and said, anyone that doesn't help us are terrorists, I guarantee you, your neighbors, if you were against the aliens, would rat you out to them.
00:04:27.000If blood-drinking aliens landed and said, give us children to stick a straw in and drink their blood, and we won't kill you, your neighbors would come grab your children and deliver them, bowing to the aliens.
00:04:48.000And just, we need to call them out for what they are, break the trance and realize, we got tyranny running wild, and now it wants to shut down the real media.
00:04:56.000The latest on North Korea, it's all coming up.
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00:08:03.000Live from Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide, it's Alex Jones.
00:08:11.000I know you've been seeing me now, here's a surprise.
00:08:19.000I know that you have, cause there's magic in my eyes.
00:08:22.000I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles.
00:08:35.000Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us on this fifth day of April 2013.
00:08:45.000It is Friday, and coming up in the second half of the broadcast, Pastor Chuck Baldwin is going to be joining us to discuss all the major denominations, from Catholic to the Southern Baptist Convention, calling for the end of the Second Amendment and basically the end of America.
00:09:04.000This is the great move ahead of the new global wars they're about to start, the implosion of the world economy in every nationally sovereign state, and the ushering in of the one world government.
00:09:18.000And the church is all lining up again to worship abortion, to worship gun control, to worship the end of marriage, to just worship tyranny, period, and to openly call for world government, as the Vatican is now doing.
00:10:12.000official, not a servant, but official, with direct knowledge of the information, told CNN on Thursday that missiles and launch components have been moved to the east coast of North Korea in the last few days.
00:10:24.000And again, that would be able to target uh... the west coast of the united states uh... or be able to obviously hit japan is much closer in response south korea has sent aegis destroyers equipment advanced radar systems in the both its coast yonhap said citing navy sources the apparent deployment comes amid further threatening statements by north korea and heightening tensions in the region a situation that does not need to get any hotter u.s.
00:10:49.000state department said why did the state department authorize of the u n then in the mid nineties ABB, the nuclear reactor company, the multinational company, headed by Donald Rumsfeld to transfer the reactors to him to get the fissile material to make the atomic bomb warheads.
00:11:12.000Why was that done when there were reactors they could have been, quote, given the last time they were holding the world hostage?
00:11:18.000Oh, you're threatening war with the south of conventional weapons.
00:11:21.000Here, let us give you reactors to make A-bombs.
00:11:26.000I guarantee you when we're in some new giant wars with Al-Qaeda that's being given the entire Middle East right now, a year from now, two years from now, three years from now, four years from now, it will be a conspiracy theory that the West put Al-Qaeda in those countries.
00:11:41.000It'll be, how dare Alex Jones claim Al Qaeda was put in by us?
00:11:47.000And I'll be like, I have LA Times, Associated Press, Reuters, CFR from 2010, 11, and 12, 13.
00:13:45.000Because they were covering articles from days before, it was then 10%, then it was 20, then it was 30, then it was 40, then it was 50, then it was 60, then it was 70, then it was 80, then it was 90, then it was all the money out of your bank account.
00:13:58.000For many of the people that had accounts, the lowest number was 40% out of your bank account.
00:14:03.000And now they're saying they're going to take more.
00:14:05.000And you notice at first they were like, yeah, tough bailout for snipers, but it's what it needs.
00:15:12.000That is the type of information that is unfolding right now.
00:15:19.000And maybe this is like all the last threats.
00:15:21.000You know, remember Homeland Security about a month and a half ago?
00:15:25.000They were talking about cutting Homeland Security's ever-growing budget, just to cut the growth of it.
00:15:33.000Just hundreds of billions of dollars a year, conservatively.
00:15:36.000They said, we're just going to cut a few billion of your growth.
00:15:38.000And they said, okay, terrorists will hit us.
00:15:43.000Al-Qaeda, working with the Tea Party, remember that was the headline, is going to hit America.
00:15:49.000And if anybody could think they'd go, the Tea Party's made up of mainly Islamophobes, who gave up all their rights, believing they were going to fight Al-Qaeda.
00:15:57.000Now the government publicly runs Al-Qaeda, so they're flipping it over to the Patriot movement, is the terrorist.
00:16:03.000But they came out and said, well who's going to hit us?
00:16:46.000You're not allowed to have a tea party event at the hotel with speakers.
00:16:49.000You know, good agents, you know, good maids went in and dug through stuff, you know, in the free country and claim they found less than a gram of marijuana.
00:17:17.000You know, there's only one thing worse than that.
00:17:18.000One time I went in the garage, and usually if I left the door open and forget to close it at night, raccoons go in and try to find the dog food.
00:17:27.000And the most evil thing that you've ever seen happens.
00:17:31.000If there's a mama raccoon or daddy raccoon in the garage, they're not mean about it.
00:17:38.000But if they brought their babies in with them and you try to get close, They just get their back against the wall, they won't leave, and they start hissing and growling at you.
00:17:46.000And if you go up to them, they will attack you and bite you.
00:17:49.000And I think all raccoons should be executed, hunted down, and put in FEMA camps, because there's nothing worse than wanting your babies to be safe.
00:17:58.000There's nothing worse than a parent wanting to be with their child.
00:18:05.000I mean, I think abortion is great in this country.
00:18:08.000I think it's great we've killed 53 million babies.
00:18:11.000I think it's great now the Journal of Bioethics is calling to kill babies up to age 3.
00:18:16.000I think it's great they're calling for death panels of old people.
00:18:19.000And I think it's great that all over the country, I know people, I'll be in a restaurant listening or I was at Barton Springs once and heard a couple going, it's just terrible.
00:18:55.000So they went to the house and took their kids.
00:18:57.000I mean, folks, this is... The government ships the drugs in.
00:19:01.000It's trying to put your kids on Ritalin and Prozac-type drugs that are deadly and cause heart palpitations, heart expansion, brain shrinkage, retardation of growth, mental illness.
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00:24:58.000Piers Morgan, the resident gun control advocate of CNN, protects his own personal property with signs warning That it is guaranteed by an armed response security services, according to a new investigation by self-described guerrilla journalist James O'Keefe of the Project Veritas.
00:25:16.000It's known for his undercover video operations.
00:25:19.000He recently exposed how journalists with a newspaper that revealed the addresses of gun permit holders in the New York City were unwilling to take a dose of their own medicine to declare their homes gun-free zones.
00:25:31.000I'm telling you, these guys are the model of journalism.
00:25:36.000It's funny, I was talking to him off air about some stuff and I said, yeah, you know, you ought to go out and show Piers Morgan's bodyguards.
00:25:44.000And they said, actually, we're on that.
00:25:46.000We're going there next week, but don't tell anybody.
00:26:09.000I mean, that's how you deal with these hypocrites.
00:26:12.000And that's why they're so upset about the alternative media.
00:26:15.000In fact, Fox News is asking, is Drudge on the White House enemies list?
00:26:21.000And of course, the answer is yes, it came out What, three years ago, in the news, that I'm on the enemy's list, Drudge is on the enemy's list.
00:26:30.000Oh, Breitbart's on there, but you can scratch him off.
00:26:56.000They wouldn't be Coming after us with all their government-controlled organs like Media Matters, ADL, Southern Poverty Law Center, MSNBC, CNN.
00:27:06.000They wouldn't be demonizing Infowars.com if we weren't effective.
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00:28:36.000Big Money comes in and says, we'll pay you triple what you're making to put ESPN on and get rid of Alex Jones and this talk radio lineup in Orlando.
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00:32:58.000InfoWarshop.com We need to do this every day of the week and just really brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way.
00:33:07.000It's not about keeping guns out of the hands of law-abiding Americans.
00:33:11.000And I'm sick and tired of people lying to the American people.
00:33:14.000We can't have a totally armed society.
00:33:18.000We're not proposing a gun registration system, we're proposing background checks for criminals.
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00:36:14.000Those that aren't informed, those that are informed, the mercenaries, the truly evil, the truly virtuous.
00:36:21.000There's a lot of different factions out there, and there are different currents in this universe.
00:36:25.000You need to stand up for liberty, and evil will vanish like tyrants at daybreak, like mist, like phantoms at daybreak, to quote Thomas Jefferson.
00:36:40.000We've got purges against gun owners and veterans.
00:36:43.000Veterans who've had their arms and legs blown off or having their kids taken.
00:36:46.000Veterans that are caught with even half a marijuana cigarette or having their children taken.
00:36:50.000Veterans are having their guns taken en masse.
00:36:52.000There is a domestic purge like Nazi Germany started with groups that were unpopular at first and expanded on to everyone.
00:38:09.000Dr. Steve Pachenik is There was a sandstorm coming in out of the desert on the DMZ.
00:38:16.000He's watching troops coming in right now and he can give you what he believes is the inside intel scoop from his contacts on what's really happening with the biggest crisis The biggest saber-rattling in the 60-year conflict, an ongoing conflict, that is the North-South Korea proxy situation.
00:38:36.000So I'm going to give him the floor now.
00:38:38.000Joining us from somewhere in South Korea, right on the DMZ, he is there.
00:38:44.000Dr. Pachinik, thank you for going there and reporting for us.
00:38:47.000Well, thank you, Alex, and thank you, America, for listening to me.
00:38:53.000I was on Monday, and we talked about standouts and all the other false flags.
00:38:58.000But I didn't want to give you the surprise that I knew the next day I would be headed out on my own money, my own time, without any assistance from anybody, straight into Seoul, Korea, and up to the DMZ right now.
00:39:17.000What I see is a huge sandstorm coming in from the Gobi Desert of China.
00:39:22.000And in a way that really is the metaphor for what's happening in Korea.
00:39:27.000China is the primary mover of North Korea.
00:39:31.000China is the responsible agent that creates Kim Jong-il, Kim Il-sung, and Kim Jong-un.
00:39:38.000The reason I went here was to show the American public in real time, only through Alex Jones, how distorted our representation is of the media, how inappropriate and how agitation propaganda is being played through CNN, which I woke up to, and it was unbelievable.
00:39:57.000Wolf Blitzer, Farrakhan, Amanpour, all the people that we talked about who don't know absolutely nothing, are being told by our military and our government To create a sense of panic and agitation that there would be a nuclear missile strike somewhere on the Pacific, possibly near Seattle, possibly on the East Coast, but the entire scenario is totally false.
00:40:21.000Well, I'm here, unofficially, but the Korean government has not stopped me because I've worked with them.
00:40:27.000Let me explain a little bit of my history.
00:40:28.000It's not just that I wrote about North Korea.
00:40:31.000And I was here, but I was Deputy Assistant Secretary of East Asia, which meant that Korea was under my jurisdiction.
00:40:37.000And I was the first, the first person to actually work with, in the 1980s, a man by the name of Chun Doo-won, Noh Tae-woo.
00:40:45.000Our own government didn't really remember this.
00:40:48.000And what that meant, in simple language, was I was able to help the military government of South Korea.
00:40:55.000That's the present president, a lady whose name is Park.
00:40:59.000Who's father was assassinated in a military coup.
00:41:02.000I was able, with the assistance of the U.S.
00:41:04.000government, to transform the entire country of South Korea in the 1980s from a military dictatorship to a civilian one.
00:41:12.000And then eventually brought in directly Kim Jong-Som and Kim Dae-Jong.
00:41:18.000There's a lot of names here, but those in the world will understand it in the South Koreans.
00:41:23.000I'm here in the DMZ zone, an unidentified area.
00:41:26.000I've been supported by the South Korean informally, through my guides and others, but I've had the opportunity, and the unique one, and the reason I've done this, to really be able to co-op and to explain to the Americans, only through the Alex Jones Show, and Alex and I are being paid.
00:41:42.000This goes back to our friendship and to the belief I have in that he's the only media that I can get the real truth.
00:41:48.000And as I'm seeing it now, I see brigades, possible brigades, about 5,000 to 10,000, 15,000 young South Korean soldiers moving in concert with half-tracks.
00:42:03.000The tanks are old, they're not modern.
00:42:06.000I interviewed, even though the military did not want to work with me, I asked for a formal request, although I came in very quickly to the Republic of Korea Army, which I knew very well because I knew all of their generals.
00:42:17.000So you have to remember, America, that 20 to 30 years ago, Korea, South Korea, was run by a military dictatorship.
00:42:29.000What I was involved in was transforming the dictatorship into civilian government.
00:42:34.000And now the leader of South Korea is a very elegant, very competent woman who is the daughter of the man who was the leading dictator by the name of Ms.
00:43:39.000meant Petroleum Lubricant and Oil because the South Korean Army was very effective and if we didn't hold them back they were attacked across the DMZ.
00:43:47.000So you have to imagine Korea being split in half with a line of control where on the one side the North Koreans have 2.2 million military soldiers with antiquated equipment and old generals who come out of the communist regime who were trained by Kim Il-sung Now Kim Il-sung was the father of North Korea.
00:44:08.000The reason they say he's crazy or it was inappropriate is wrong.
00:44:12.000Kim Il-sung was a very famous fighter against the Japanese occupation.
00:44:18.000And to understand the history of Japan, of Korea, you have to understand that Korea was slaughtered by Japanese rule over a 35-year period, starting from 1915 to 1945, where the Japanese still do not want to apologize to Korea, and where they used the women of Korea, raped them, pillaged them, came and brought them to Japan to serve as service women.
00:44:43.000Japan will not apologize for this, and very few Koreans in South Korea will ever forget what Japan has done.
00:44:49.000Despite the fact that Japan is now doing business.
00:44:53.000They created hundreds of thousands of the ghost children.
00:45:30.000We also have to remember that the U.S.
00:45:32.000Army failed in the war in Korea and that the only general who brought it forth and made peace on the DMZ was General Eisenhower.
00:45:40.000So it took a military man to bring peace.
00:45:43.000What really happened now was I anticipated that because the Navy was not involved in any of the prior incursions in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and only served as a deterrent in the Mediterranean and in the, basically, the oil companies denying any access to so-called terrorists, which really weren't there.
00:46:05.000They immediately switched to Asia, as we began to get involved with Asian denial of access in the Straits of Malacca, and instigated the Japanese militaristic empire.
00:46:17.000And at the same time, we were forcing the Chinese in our confrontation to force the North Koreans.
00:46:29.000Concentrated efforts on the part of the United States, North Korea, South Korea and China, which I have seen for over 35 years.
00:46:37.000What happens usually is that the leader of North Korea, at the instigation of China, because of our relationships that become poor, as our relationship with China becomes poor, China starts to act out and then informs North Korea to do something that seems silly or very dangerous or self-destructive.
00:46:59.000In the meantime, we know very well everything about Kim Jong-un, the new leader.
00:47:05.000He has been in Switzerland for 15 years.
00:47:08.000He was a very poor student, extremely shy, very loved basketball, but in fact was never trained to either be a leader of the Communist Party or, as they call him, the commissioner or the master planner and master soldier of the DPRK or the Korean Army.
00:47:28.000So I knew that basically we had a phantom army We had a paper tiger in the U.S.
00:47:34.000and we had basically a very strong China, which where we all played and agreed that as our Navy went to the Asian course, we basically would start creating another strategic tension, as we had done with terrorism in 9-11, as we had done with Afghanistan, the Haqqani group in Afghanistan, as we had done the civil war in Pakistan, and as we now supporting the Salafists in Syria.
00:48:01.000All of this is done in order to fulfill the mandates of our soldiers who have not been in duty and in action and need to have the action and test out their battle plans.
00:48:12.000In effect, our military has been very ineffective.
00:48:16.000There is no way, as I see it on the DNZ and having worked with previous generals all the way in Seoul, that you people have to understand that Seoul is only 30 miles away from the DNZ.
00:48:27.000The DNZ is literally the demarcation where 2.2 million North Korean soldiers can invade in 30 miles and there is no army in the world, including the U.S. Army, Army, and they know that very, very well.
00:48:41.000I've repeatedly went over this with several generals over 30 years, and I informed them that we are nothing more than what we call a tripwire.
00:48:57.000and the American presidents as a requirement for a tripwire.
00:49:01.000That meant as soon as the North Koreans would attack into Seoul, which they never would do, and every South Korean knew that, then there would be total conflagration.
00:49:12.000Well, that never happened in 30 years.
00:49:46.000And then have real, uh, you know, confrontations with the Chinese while the globalists have invested everything in China.
00:49:54.000Well, let's take away the word globalist.
00:49:56.000What we do have here, and let me use another word, Alex, not to contradict you, but basically what we have in South Korea, unlike North Korea and even China, South Korea is the fastest growing country in the Asia.
00:50:10.000It is the highest productivity with the lowest number of unemployment, and they have been producing products from Samsung to Hyundai and selling them all over the world.
00:50:19.000It's the New Japan, it's the New Japan, the most connected It's beyond the New Japan.
00:50:23.000It is so strong it can out-compete Japan.
00:50:28.000The reason we have this confrontation with China, which we facilitated and we deal directly with China, is the fact that we have a new leader in China named Xi Peng.
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00:54:51.000You were getting into the new Communist Party head there in China.
00:54:55.000You agreed with me during the break that he is a giant, spoiled Communist baby boomer.
00:55:00.000What this really signifies is our American inability, over 30 years South Korea has grown because of people like myself and others like Don Gregg, Jim Lindley, who worked here and really transformed this country from a military dictatorship to a civilian one.
00:55:16.000What it also emphasizes is how poor and desperate North Korea is because we will not absorb, we the United States and China, will not absorb North Korea in a unification process into South Korea.
00:55:30.000And the reason for that is that South Korean poverty and ineptness and communism, I've had experience with 30 years ago when I took down the Soviet Union, I took down East Germany and West Germany, and everybody knows in the U.S.
00:55:43.000government, that if we were to take down quickly the North Korean government, which we are able to do by just not providing food and forcing the Chinese to break open their borders, we would have a major economic crisis.
00:55:57.000So what this is, is a controlled agitation propaganda in order to maintain a soft landing.
00:56:03.000Now, let me explain this to our American people.
00:56:06.000The reason we work with the Chinese and the reason we work with the North Korean, because the American public doesn't realize we're supplying food in order to keep the people in North Korea at a subsistence level.
00:56:18.000What's not possible and what's happening here is the frenzy of the American media and once again Obama and his White House and the ability of Secretary of State Gary to keep his mouth shut.
00:56:33.000They have violated every principle of international crisis management which I developed, which others have worked with like Charles Hill and other administrations, and who know that in order to keep a crisis like this from escalating by accident, We keep the media away.
00:56:53.000We don't get into the frenzy and warmongering of explaining what kind of missile systems the North Korean have, how they can shoot the missiles into the sky and get into the eastern, western part of California.
00:57:19.000They have a 2.2 military army and when I saw the equipment it hasn't changed.
00:57:23.000Even now as I analyze the equipment with my guide and the DMZ and I can see the soldiers on this other side with binoculars.
00:57:32.000You have 2.2 million soldiers who are really hungry, they're starving, they don't believe anymore in North Korea.
00:57:38.000But what South Korea had done very brilliantly over the years with our encouragement was to create under Hyundai and Samsung Sure, they've used the threat to control their people.
00:57:50.000Is it the real danger when the wall comes down?
00:57:53.000And that if there's not a transition because the West wants to keep this going?
00:57:57.000As always, Alex, you hit it right on the head, and we made that mistake.
00:58:01.000I made that mistake, along with Baker and Zelleck, in the transformation in East Germany.
00:58:07.000What we did not realize at the time when we brought in Communist Germany, which was even more economically advanced than North Korea, we had completely flooded the capability of the West Germans to handle 50,000 East Germans who didn't have work, didn't have jobs, weren't trained, weren't entrepreneurs, and basically lived at subsistence level.
00:58:32.000It cost Germany and the United States a fortune.
00:58:35.000Sure, so let's come back in one minute and talk about what's going to happen.
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01:00:22.000It has been said by many a historian that war is the health of the state.
01:00:27.000Our authoritarian state, the Chinese authoritarian state, the North Korean authoritarian state, the South Korean state, they all stand to gain on the surface from crises, diversions, but with a collapsing hermit kingdom of Stalinist scum oppressing and sitting on top of the little skeletons that they've almost sucked dry.
01:00:47.000Could this all be jockeying for some new deal, for a new level of aid?
01:01:03.000And I think what Pchenik said to me off-air is, they've got a bunch of Rubes and Boobs, a bunch of pirates, boobies, over there who don't know what they're doing.
01:01:12.000In four minutes, Doc, you're back with us Sunday in the second hour.
01:01:27.000Could this be the North preparing to collapse?
01:01:30.000Well, this is partly the North preparing to collapse, but I don't believe that's the real danger.
01:01:35.000The real danger is China is in very serious trouble because China cannot control its internal security.
01:01:41.000So in turn, China and its relationship with the United States and the fact that the United States think that correctly, Is supporting Japan and in the war between the United States, Japan, and China, China's only recourse is to instigate a very inappropriate agitation of North Korea, claiming that they can send missiles and all.
01:02:04.000Our best recourse now is for a secretary of state and a president to cool everybody down, to shut down and warn CNN and all the media that if they don't stop and cease and desist to create agitation propaganda,
01:02:18.000which is the first principle of international crisis management, and which is the first principle of international crisis management, and then they tell our own military generals to stop talking about missiles and construction of missiles, and they'll have the capability to do this and handle it in a quiet, discreet military fashion.
01:02:36.000I have no problem if two Aegean missile system destroyers are coming in here.
01:02:42.000The South Koreans have agreed with me.
01:02:44.000They have no problem with two stealth bombers coming in or two stealth fighter fighters, but it has to be kept quiet.
01:02:51.000The success of international crisis management in an inappropriate society like Kim Jong-un, whose brain I know very well, and contrary to the media where they hype it up and said only a psychiatrist would really understand him.
01:03:05.000Well, here I am, the psychiatrist who really understands him and has 30 years of experience.
01:03:10.000But our government, our media, our intelligence didn't want to hear anything I had to say, so I go to the only outlet and the only man and friend that I've had for 20 years who's allowed the truth to come out, and that is for us to tone down our rhetoric, stop the agitation propaganda, stop announcing what we're stop the agitation propaganda, stop announcing what we're doing.
01:03:29.000We can quietly support Ms. Park, who's handling this situation extremely well, and I have to say the South Korean people.
01:03:37.000All 30 million of them, very young, low below the age of 40, are making fun of us and saying yes.
01:03:44.000Actually, the night before I was on the DMZ Zone, I had what we call the Last Supper, where everybody joked, we ate eel, we drank some Kampai, and we said, okay gentlemen, this is our Last Supper, when in fact we knew there was nothing that was to be dangerous.
01:04:07.000But they find it disgusting that the United States government is creating, again, more crisis, more agitation, in order to serve the U.S.
01:04:15.000purpose, the Chinese purpose, and to create another potential war.
01:04:20.000The danger of all of this is because our president is so inept.
01:04:24.000As we've seen in Pakistan, Iraq, and Syria, and because the White House is an old, antiquated bunch of people who have no experience whatsoever.
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01:08:51.000If you're listening on the internet or on satellite in your area and there's not a local AM or FM, call the local talk station, tell them, pick up the broadcast.
01:08:59.000That's how we've gone over 150 affiliates and we're with a small syndicator.
01:09:04.000The big three pretty much have a monopoly.
01:09:09.000And my point is, the White House responds to us, the globalists respond to us, the globalists respond to the Drudge Report.
01:09:16.000More and more, there's only a few outlets that are really able to get real news out.
01:09:22.000No one would know about the Copenhagen document that they plan to shut off the third world energy supplies and our energy supply if Infowars.com hadn't written about it with Lord Monckton and then DrudgeReport.com hadn't picked it up.
01:09:34.000I mean, there's just hundreds of things like that.
01:09:36.000No one would know about the bullets, the domestic arms buildup, all of this.
01:09:39.000And listen to me, you've heard all the historians we've had on.
01:09:43.000You've heard all the military historians, all the sociologists, all the anthropologists.
01:09:48.000I am a person, because I enjoy it from a young age, I'm a person that's read psychology, anthropology, sociology, history.
01:09:59.000What we see forming worldwide is a decadent cascade event with corrupt, leveraged, disconnected leaders because of decadent, disconnected populations, not predominantly, but enough of it, to aid them and a government and corporate class that have become degenerate.
01:10:33.000If you just join me, I'll go over the article.
01:10:35.000That's because the globalists are going to use them as the new proxy army, because they're the old proxy army.
01:10:41.000And we've got a guy on the line who was there with Jimmy Carter when all that started, and who knows Brzezinski, and he's a Psychiatrist and an MD.
01:10:50.000He is an American psychiatrist, former State Department official, author and publisher.
01:10:53.000He is currently acclaimed author of psycho-political thrillers and the co-creator of the best-selling Tom Clancy Op Center and Tom Clancy's Net Force paperback series.
01:11:02.000Trained in psychiatry at Harvard University and International Relations at MIT.
01:11:06.000His novels are based on 20 years experience and the truth is, he won't ever talk about it on air, but you can go look at Overthrowing, Major governments, you know, get accredited to psych warfare, you know.
01:11:35.000We've only got about nine minutes left here.
01:11:37.000But he was the head of the desk over that area of Asia for a period of time.
01:11:42.000He helped get rid, I remember this is on record, of the military dictatorship that was in South Korea for so long, and a transition.
01:11:50.000He's there on his own, with a guide, given to him by the government, up on the DMZ right now.
01:11:55.000I want you briefly to go over the mindset of Kim Jong-un.
01:11:59.000The mindset of the new Chinese Communist leader.
01:12:01.000Why Obama and the media are hyping this, and why you're saying there's a danger in the hyping, where they're saying nuclear war could happen any minute, the North is saying they're going to nuke the U.S.
01:12:12.000What is behind all this, Dr. Steve Puccini?
01:12:15.000Let me get into the mindset of Kim Jong-un.
01:12:31.000He was very inept and really only enjoyed basketball.
01:12:35.000The reality is what you have is the classical communist scenario and paradox where the entire Kim Jong-un family and the entire Kim Jong-il family had for 15 years lived in Lake Geneva in prosperity.
01:12:49.000And even Kim Jong-un said to his own father, how is it that I can live a life of luxury, horseback riding, shooting, skeeting, and playing basketball while white people are starving?
01:13:01.000And his father just said, don't worry.
01:13:04.000We will have the money and we'll always maintain our power structure.
01:13:07.000So the real issue now is can the Korean military control Korea?
01:13:12.000And the answer is not clear, because they take directions exactly from the Communist China.
01:13:18.000And the Communist China, Xi Peng, who I have followed for over 20 years, is the son of the famous revolutionary of the Communist Party, who was indicted in the Cultural Revolution and was so-called reformed, but was brought up through the system because of his alliances with the military and the crony capitalism and corruption of China.
01:13:38.000China has been having problems with the United States and our force structure in Eastern Asia, and the fact that we have moved all of our battleships and our marine corps to Eastern Asia to deny access to the Chinese correctly, to their trading companies, and all to the fact that they're collapsing internally.
01:13:56.000So two countries are collapsing internally.
01:13:59.000China, because it cannot maintain social stability.
01:14:03.000It has to get water from the Tibetan high marks.
01:14:06.000And the fact that it's economy is totally a false economy and a runaway economy that's been funded by JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, and all the hedge funds, including our former Secretary of Treasury, Paul Peterson, who knew nothing.
01:14:24.000About banking at M1 and M2, but has always been a crony capitalist of the Chinese.
01:14:29.000So what you have is two very similar princelings who are not qualified to run their government.
01:14:36.000In terms of the Chinese leader, he's a technocrat, never had diplomatic experience, lived in the United States, really does not understand how to maintain social stability, like Deng Xiaoping, Jiang Zemin, Joe Inline, Lu Chaoqi, and all the original revolutionaries, he's spoiled, he's corrupt, and he has all their families are corrupt.
01:14:58.000And the same way we have this corruption in the spoiled Kim Jong-un, who grew up in Switzerland, you can't think of him as a North Korean.
01:15:08.000You have to think of him as the preppy Swiss boarding school boy who's shy, inept, has never been in the military, has been forced by his own military to be the face of Korea because his father felt that his oldest son, Kim Jong-un, sucked.
01:15:23.000Was too feminine, so we needed a stronger face.
01:15:25.000So what we have is a paper doll China and a paper doll North Korea, all creating an episode because the United States military has come in and said, we're going to protect our national security interests.
01:15:40.000Our economic interest is all the way from Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines and Japan.
01:15:46.000The reason for that is China has engaged in what we call a low intensity conflict.
01:15:51.000In the Spratly Islands, which I wrote about 20 years ago, in Pax Pacifica, they can no longer handle the internal economy.
01:16:00.000So when they can no longer handle the internal economy, they push the Chinese, the Koreans, in order to make the kind of noise, what we call in psychiatry, acting out behavior, or baby-like behavior.
01:16:12.000I call Kim Jong-un the baby in the crib who screams and yells.
01:16:17.000Looks at missiles that really can't fly anywhere, has no capacity.
01:16:21.000He's one of the few guys in America who understands it as Charles Hill, worked in North Korea.
01:16:26.000And really what they're doing is we're fostering that type of reaction so that we can demonstrate how strong our Navy is, how strong our capability to control the situation.
01:16:37.000But in fact, what's happening is we're showing the opposite in the South Korean people and the South Korean army.
01:16:43.000And intelligence is seeing exactly what I'm seeing on the DMZ zone.
01:16:49.000We send over two stealth fighter planes, F-22, which has absolutely no relevance because the North Koreans can never attack South Korea.
01:16:57.000Otherwise, they will be destroyed, 22 million people.
01:17:01.000And South Seoul is only 30 miles away.
01:17:04.000I'm right on the top of that nuclear storm, right on the DMZ as I'm talking to young Korean soldiers who, quite frankly, are not prepared to go to war and know near the hearts of hearts that they will not confront the North Koreans as they're coming over.
01:17:19.000But once that Kim Jong-un, underneath the Chinese provocation and American ineptness in handling this control, will create a situation where it will be out of control, in the case of his grandfather, they blew up the South Korean presidential platform.
01:17:39.000In the case of his father, they also blew up ships.
01:17:43.000So what happens in a certain crisis can get blown out very quickly, number one, because we don't have a president who really is qualified to run a...
01:17:51.000Well, that was my final point, is that you've got special crony capitalist interests that want to work with authoritarian regimes.
01:17:58.000As Carl Quigley wrote at Georgetown, they want weak people reading off teleprompters.
01:18:03.000So now there's no leadership anywhere.
01:18:05.000It's like an absurdist science fiction Kurt Vonnegut novel where some kid from Switzerland is commanding a bunch of psychopaths, vampires.
01:18:13.000You've got China on the edge of collapse.
01:18:18.000You've got crony interests shutting down all their competition.
01:18:21.000I mean it looks like a civilization collapse type event down the road with this type of lunacy and then building up North Korea to the South Koreans looks completely insane because they know what jokes they are.
01:18:38.000It's Alice in Wonderland on steroids and LSD.
01:18:41.000It's a total nonreality because talking to all the Chinese, the South Korean students, workers, and military, they can't take this seriously.
01:18:51.000So we considered the day of the war that Kim Jong-il declared the end of the world yesterday.
01:18:57.000I went out with some of my South Korean military friends and intelligence operators, and we had our last supper consisting of veal, diet coke, and rice, and we all laughed, showing how incompetent the leader of Kim Jong-il was, the leader of China, and also POTUS. showing how incompetent the leader of Kim Jong-il was, the I guess it will be your last meal with diet coke, with the aspartame.
01:19:19.000We were sending over two stealth bombers which cost us close to a couple of five hundred million to a billion.
01:19:26.000They left when they said we sent two Aegean missile ships which can do absolutely nothing.
01:19:31.000So our posturing is like a paper tiger which China was like and we can do nothing in the entire All right, well, Doc, Doc, Doc... All right, Doc, we gotta go to break.
01:19:49.000I gotta come back with one more segment with you, because I gotta find out, what do you expect to see come out of this?
01:19:53.000What is the danger, then, if it's all just posturing?
01:19:56.000Final segment from the DMG with Dr. Steve Pachenik.
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01:22:29.000We the people grow cotton, weave fabric, engrave ink, embed strips and fibers to protect from counterfeit, then carting to a private bank, having it led back at interest, forcing taxes to service debt.
01:22:40.000Or was Jefferson correct when stating a central bank issuing the public currency is a greater menace to the liberties of the people than a standing army?
01:23:58.000I was sitting in traffic, listening to the radio.
01:24:13.000All right, final segment with Dr. Steve Pachanik.
01:24:17.000He'll be back Sunday with us in the second hour of the Sunday broadcast.
01:24:21.000I've got Mr. O'Keefe of the Veritize Project coming on, who went to the Hollywood Hills home of Piers Morgan, who has an armed response signs up, saying he has armed guards.
01:24:34.000The hypocrisy of the so-called ruling class wanting us, their quarry, disarmed.
01:24:39.000Dr. Pachinik, sum it all up for people.
01:24:41.000You told me during the break what the real danger is that Korea will implode, North Korea will implode, North and South, into China and into South Korea and trigger World War III.
01:24:53.000In your own words, repeat that and talk about what the establishment is doing and why you think it's so dangerous.
01:25:00.000What's going to happen now is because of this predictable, everyone in the media says that these North Koreans are crazy and unpredictable.
01:25:19.000We know that every time they act out, we can control it.
01:25:23.000But in order to control it, we need a very effective, President of the United States, an effective secretary of state, which carry is not, an effective intelligence community, which we do not have, and a military that's not gung-ho and understands the limits of the capability.
01:25:37.000The limits of the capability is that, very simply, that if North Korea attacks South Korea, which is not likely through Seoul because we're only 30 miles away, if they act out in any way that we cannot manage because of the hype that we have created through a CNN, Wolf Blitz, Zakaria, and Aminapour, army who should be shut down and indicted for creating agitation propaganda.
01:26:04.000We could have literally an implosion of North Korean poverty scurrying over into South Korea and then have a major collapse of both North Korea and South Korea, but more importantly of China, because the North Koreans are so poor that they're screaming over the border of China. because the North Koreans are so poor that they're screaming So we have an incompetent Xi Peng, who's a technocrat, a princeling, and a spoiled Chinese technocrat, very much like Kim Jong-un,
01:26:32.000who's a spoiled Switzerland-trained leader who has been whored by every intelligence community in the world, including the French, who's a spoiled Switzerland-trained leader who has been whored by every intelligence community in the world, including the French, the Swiss, the Americans, the Germans, the Russians, you name them, because for 15 years, if you're in If you're in a Swiss boarding school and you're playing basketball and you're not very smart and you're quite a famine And you don't know how to deal with women.
01:26:55.000You certainly don't know how to manage country So we're coming into very quickly thanks to our American media and the frenzy of American media the frenzy of the military particularly the Navy to say that we're bringing in a GNC's that we will send in stealth bombers to does not do anything to control or quiet the temper of a crisis, which is the principles of crisis management that I created 30 years ago.
01:27:22.000And very sagacious people like Don Gregg, Jim Lilly, and others who had worked in the CIA and had been our ambassadors here understood that you keep the agitation and the warmongering to the lowest flame, What we're doing now is increasing the flame thanks to CNN, thanks to our military and our navy, thanks to the ignorance of the White House, the ineptness of our president, the ineptness of the Chinese, and the ineptness of the North Korea.
01:27:48.000We could literally land in World War III with not only nuclear proliferation but there is gas warfare and the ability of that we would never thought possible of the North Koreans to come into South Korea because where I am located I'm only 10 kilometers away from North Korea and I can see the North Koreans right now.
01:28:11.000I see the mobilization of their troops, but at the same time, the young troops in South Korea are not qualified to fight into an army that has only three days of petroleum, lubricant, and oil.
01:28:25.000So what we have here is an impending crisis that's totally mismanaged.
01:28:29.000Well, isn't that 101 that you don't build up the enemy as super dangerous and powerful?
01:28:35.000They should be laughing at Kim Jong-un, calling him pathetic and weak, and he can't even get What's happening in South Korea?
01:28:45.000We're saying how absurd North Korea is.
01:28:48.000We have absolutely no regard for Xi Peng, and we find him very inept.
01:28:53.000The Chinese students should start rioting in China to say this is not the leader of China.
01:28:58.000But more importantly, we find it very disgraceful what America is doing by announcing they're sending two stealth bombers, one Chinese, one South Korean official said to me, how stupid can you Americans be to send billions of dollars worth of two planes that will do absolutely nothing?
01:29:16.000All right, we're gonna get an update, Doc.
01:29:18.000do nothing because it cannot protect from a nuclear war.
01:29:21.000And all it is is a posture of a paper tiger we become where we're creating a situation where we show our weakness, we show our incompetence, we show our lack of capability to handle this situation, which will literally land into World War III.
01:29:36.000But we know everything about Kim Jong-un.
01:29:39.000All right, we're going to get an update, Doc.
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01:33:33.000I get hurt by tyranny and I'm going to tell a story about that here in a moment and go to Pastor Chuck Baldwin who's going to be riding shotgun with us into the next hour with Dr. Greg Dixon to talk about the takeover of the church in this country.
01:33:46.000And how they're openly going along with the persecution of veterans, gun owners, all of it.
01:33:52.000My only gift, I think, is to recognize things hidden in plain view.
01:33:56.000Like if I walked into my living room and there was a 1,000-pound elephant sitting there, a 10,000-pound elephant, I would recognize it as an elephant.
01:34:03.000If Barbara Walters told me it wasn't an elephant, I would tell her she was a liar.
01:34:06.000Now that's called being a conspiracy theorist, but we're going to be talking to Chuck Baldwin, Pastor Baldwin, former Constitution Party presidential candidate, of course, and someone demonizes very evil, along with Ron Paul and myself, by Homeland Security.
01:34:22.000But first off, this whole North Korea thing will probably blow over.
01:34:25.000But it shows how it's the greatest rhetoric since that war ended more than 50 years ago.
01:34:31.000And you notice they're putting Al-Qaeda in, in the Middle East, and the AP says, don't call them Al-Qaeda, don't even call them Islamicists.
01:34:56.000Instead, it's like, yeah, now we fight returning veterans.
01:35:00.000Take all their guns and take their kids!
01:35:03.000I mean, this is Civil War stuff, but despite all that, we need to just pray, move forward, speak out, and resist, because you wouldn't have the White House demonizing alternative media, attacking Drudge, saying they're causing us problems when we're on Drudge every week, attacking us as well, if we didn't have power.
01:35:22.000And when I say, hey, there's not many of us actually fighting, that's saying, hey, join us.
01:35:26.000Look, we're only few that are actually prominent, but we are hundreds of millions worldwide that know about liberty.
01:35:32.000If we just speak out, the enemy can be defeated.
01:35:37.000There are different forces in the world.
01:35:40.000And we just give the world over to evil.
01:35:43.000The truth is, folks, I've confronted the New World Order over and over again, and because I don't have fear, I only have fear of them winning.
01:35:49.000I only have fear of my weakness and my failure and my dirty rags, you know, that are my best works.
01:35:55.000But my spirit, I mean, when I see Christians having their children taken for no reason, or I see people having their kids taken for not taking vaccines when there's no law, I sit there and go to bed early, and I don't want to call it depressed.
01:36:13.000It's because I am strong, ladies and gentlemen, that I burn with something beyond hatred or even love, total commitment against these people.
01:36:22.000And just the anger that my flesh is so weak, it can't work 18 hours a day, every day.
01:36:30.000And that I cannot express to you the things I've researched and I know, but I know you know in your heart what's happening.
01:36:35.000And just the evil, the acceptance of abortion, and now forced inoculations, and now veterans having their kids taken for no reason.
01:36:44.000It's not just your guns, and they're saying, I've got Geithner articles where they're going to start taking, they already started taking government pension funds.
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01:40:34.000And as every other authoritarian regime, it starts quietly.
01:40:38.000You know, a lot of times the arrest, you know, for petty made-up stuff starts and no one even covers it and no one recognizes it until it just becomes overwhelming or the dictatorship collapses.
01:40:50.000So, Pastor Baldwin, thank you so much for coming on with us.
01:42:30.000We're now not just run by the New World Order here.
01:42:33.000The communist Chinese that own our debt are occupying us and the reason I bring that up is look at this the preachers are afraid to say anything that offends so now they're banning Lego toys of Jabba the Hutt because some Muslims said it was supposed to be a Muslim just out of the clear blue sky political correctness is political control the Soviet Union called it political correctness and and and so now The preachers are like, I don't want to offend anyone.
01:43:00.000That's been used as a weapon to where now they can't even teach marriage.
01:43:04.000They won't even criticize abortion because it might offend someone.
01:43:08.000Now they're taking the crosses out of churches all over America.
01:43:12.000I know you know about that initiative.
01:43:20.000You know, back years ago, when I was running for president in 2008, I was going around the country and talking to pastors, and I couldn't tell you how many of them would say, well, you know, we believe in what you stand for, and we know that you're speaking the truth, and we know that we need change, and blah, blah, blah.
01:43:40.000But, you know, after all, we're 501c3, and we can't get involved, and you know, so we'll just pray for you.
01:43:47.000So again, that 501c3 tax exempt status has been the tool that Lyndon Johnson first created back in the 1950s, that he knew what would happen.
01:43:56.000He knew it would neuter and control the pastors and churches.
01:44:02.000And now when you get guys like Franklin Graham and Richard Land, Who, by the way, is a member of the CFR, as you know, coming out saying that they support Barack Obama's gun control initiatives, especially the universal background check.
01:44:17.000It shows the power that the government has over many of these evangelical leaders.
01:44:23.000By the way, Alex, that's why my son Tim and I have written a brand new book called To keep or not to keep, why Christians should not give up their guns.
01:45:00.000And when Christians get a hold of this, and even non-Christians, they're going to realize that natural law, biblical law, revealed law, is on the side of the Second Amendment.
01:45:10.000And so this is going to be a book that's really going to help people understand the issue.
01:45:14.000And somebody needs to send a copy to Franklin Graham, by the way.
01:45:17.000We're going to talk about that coming up here in a moment, but I'm sure you're familiar with it, but I followed it.
01:45:24.000I talk to vets every day who've had a leg blown off or something.
01:45:28.000They get them to say they're depressed, and they take their child, even though their wife is fine.
01:45:33.000They're not just taking veterans' guns now, they're also taking their children.
01:45:38.000And then you see cases where anti-government parents, engineers with no criminal record, Air Force veteran, they took their kids, yeah, from the government that had had them for a year.
01:45:47.000And then they demonized Infowars.com because he got a sticker at his house in Florida.
01:45:52.000And I mean, are they going to like come grab my kids and say I'm anti-government It's like, well, there go your kids to a re-education camp.
01:46:00.000I mean, they're just hiding this pure authoritarianism in plain view in every TV show now.
01:46:21.000And what's amazing to me, relative to the way you started the discussion here with pastors, is do these pastors really think that by them sitting back and not speaking up and not taking a stand, that they're going to be spared?
01:46:35.000Do they really think that they're going to be overlooked?
01:46:38.000You know, I think this is very comparable to the Nazi Germany period of history, when there were some 14,000 evangelical churches in Germany at the time.
01:46:50.000And of the 14,000 evangelical churches in Nazi Germany, that was becoming Nazi Germany, only 800 resisted Adolf Hitler.
01:47:02.000Now think about it, Alex, if 25% had resisted Hitler, if 50% had resisted Hitler, the entire history of the world would have been changed.
01:47:12.000But because the pastor said and did nothing, Hitler was allowed To seize control of the government, and then the country, and enact all these satanic... And 20 million, they were like 75 million.
01:47:24.000Germany, counting 2 million soldiers, lost 20 million people.
01:47:44.000And that's what the preachers don't understand.
01:47:46.000They think that by remaining neutral and trying to maintain politically correct messages, etc., that they are somehow going to be spared any of this.
01:48:31.000Thomas Jefferson didn't even say religion shouldn't be involved in things.
01:48:35.000It said government cannot be involved in religion.
01:48:39.000As the First Amendment states, Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
01:48:46.000But they've taken separation of church and state and made a debate about does it exist or not, when it never even meant that.
01:48:52.000It meant the government has no jurisdiction, but they trick people into 501c3, they stop being a church and become a charity.
01:49:15.000They are viewed as corporate officers of the state.
01:49:19.000And I really believe, and this is kind of harsh for me to say, but I mean, I've been in the heart of this battle for so long, and I really believe what I'm about to tell you, Alex.
01:49:29.000I really believe that at the heart of the problem, our pastors and churches today are state worshipers.
01:50:10.000And who you give preference to, and who you give loyalty to, and who you give sovereignty to.
01:50:14.000And what's happened in our churches today is that they have fallen for this erroneous Romans 13 interpretation that Tim and I wrote about, and you sell the book on your show, and so many of your listeners and readers have purchased it.
01:50:27.000That Romans 13 misinterpretation has propagandized the church, indoctrinated the church, to the point that they're no longer able to properly analyze government from a biblical point of view.
01:50:39.000It was Hitler's most quoted passage in his radio addresses.
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01:55:45.000I think God's going to say he didn't know you, but this is a short segment.
01:55:48.000We're going to have you with us into the next hour on Pastor Dixon, who was persecuted, the biggest Baptist church, the biggest church in the country, period, because he wouldn't be under government control, thought I was in America.
01:55:58.000But get into Franklin Graham, your article, The Southern Baptist Convention coming out and saying get rid of the Second Amendment.
01:56:09.000I think it's imperative that Christians and non-Christians alike understand that this is a very, very serious attempt to dismantle the Second Amendment.
01:56:19.000Unfortunately, we have many evangelical leaders, such as Franklin Graham, Richard Land, and many others, who have taken the position that the state is always right, and that you never resist, you never question the state.
01:56:32.000And if the state says that you are to register your guns, then you're supposed to register your guns.
01:56:37.000If a universal background check, then so be it.
01:56:40.000Uh, as we know, the FEMA has been instructing pastors for many years and schooling them in when the president declares a national emergency, asking the pastors to instruct the congregations to surrender their firearms.
01:57:00.000You've been reporting on this for years.
01:57:02.000So have I. And by the way, four years before it was declassified, we broke it with Pastor Butch Paul, yourself and others, here on Genesis, and we broke it nationally.
01:57:11.000But people couldn't believe hundreds of pages of training manual.
01:57:15.000They found out the pastor went and threatened him, kicked him out of the hospital, where he did free ministry for people.
01:57:24.000FEMA training to take guns and have pastors prepared for it.
01:57:28.000They're planning to come for the guns.
01:57:30.000This is like catching, you know, the Nazis, you know, infiltrating the White House or the Chi-Coms.
01:57:35.000I mean, this shows the authoritarian, creeping nature that they're waiting for these shootings, which a lot of them they're staging.
01:57:44.000Yeah, whether they're staged or not, the result is the same.
01:57:47.000They're using the opportunity to come after the people's guns.
01:57:52.000And this is why I think that the book that Tim and I have written is so important, Alex, instructing Christians that nowhere does the Bible teach that they are supposed to surrender their guns.
01:58:04.000And even in the Garden of Gethsemane, when Jesus said to Simon Peter, Put up thy sword, they that live by the sword die by the sword.
01:58:11.000That has been misinterpreted so much by Christians through the years.
01:58:15.000It has nothing to do with surrendering your guns.
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02:00:51.000And they came and stole their church and arrested everybody.
02:00:55.000And that's Soviet Union, ladies and gentlemen, and that's why the churches have all rolled over and said, we'll push abortion, we'll say turn the guns in, Billy Graham's son...
02:01:06.000is out there, you know, saying you don't need guns, it is so demonic.
02:01:09.000And I can't wait to read your new book if it's anything like Romans 13, full of all the quotes to give to these preachers.
02:01:26.000Chuck, you were trying to get into Romans 13.
02:01:28.000What should we be saying to Franklin Graham and the rest of these people that say, you know, turn your guns in?
02:01:33.000The big Catholic newspaper said, quote, repeal the Second Amendment. - Yeah.
02:01:38.000What are they going to do with the words of Jesus when he told the disciples that if they needed to sell their clothes, whatever they had to do, go buy a sword?
02:02:12.000If you were going to take out of the Bible all of the stories of resistance, you would reduce the Bible by probably 60 or 65 percent.
02:02:21.000Many of the great stories that we revere as Christians in the Word of God, both Old and New Testaments, have to do with resisting civil authority.
02:02:30.000All the way from Daniel... That's right.
02:02:31.000The authorities are always resisted and always, you know, put in the line.
02:02:34.000But the love stuff, turn the other cheek, is with your family, with people around you, trying to work things out.
02:02:41.000That's where a correct pastor, we see the turning the other cheek, not letting people set you up.
02:02:48.000Well, yeah, and all this is covered in our book, To Keep or Not to Keep, Why Christians Should Not Give Up Their Guns.
02:02:54.000We go into all these passages of scripture and we deal with them individually, one by one, and we show that it does not teach submission to tyranny.
02:03:20.000It's founded and grounded in the Word of God and the precepts of Scripture.
02:03:23.000And for Christians to take the tack that government is God and that we are to do whatever government says, regardless of how scriptural or unscriptural it might be, is idolatry.
02:03:34.000I mean, let's call it what it is, Alex.
02:03:39.000And what I'm concerned about is that there are many pastors and Christians out there that really aren't Maybe in their hearts understanding what they're doing, but they've been taught this so long and so often that they just think that's the only accepted theology.
02:03:56.000They've never been taught anything else.
02:03:58.000That's why in 1775 and 76, Jonas Clark had instructed his congregants at the Church of Lexington for years Before the events of April 19, 1775 on Lexington Green, which took place right in front of the church house, where those men worshipped every Sunday.
02:04:16.000And so whenever that day came, and they marched on Concord to seize the arms, they were able to stand in front of them, those men that were mainly the church congregation of the Church of Lexington, Pastor Jonas Clark, they were able to do that because the pastor had taught them the principles of liberty for many, many, many years.
02:04:36.000Well, most of the militias were led by the preachers.
02:04:38.000That's why the King of England said, damn these black brigades.
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02:08:07.000It's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
02:08:28.000All right, if you just joined us, ladies and gentlemen, there is undoubted persecution against Christians, libertarians, conservatives, anti-abortion people, pro-lifers, pro-Second Amendment groups.
02:08:41.000We get countless calls on air, I see it in the news, I just, all I do is read news all day, where they'll say, yeah, a man arrested for his bumper sticker, pro-life bumper sticker.
02:08:51.000And you're like, that's gotta be a joke.
02:08:54.000Or, um, You know, family went to anti-government rally, children taken, or anti-government people wouldn't give kids vaccines, children taken.
02:09:16.000They were like, well, the judge said we didn't give them the shots, so they took the kids.
02:09:22.000And they just eyeball you, and if they think you're ignorant, and you don't know how to fight back, they go, sign this, you'll get your kids back.
02:09:28.000And you sign it, you're admitting you're bad, and then through fraud they go, ah, I've got the confession.
02:09:33.000I mean, these are authoritarian criminals all over the place.
02:09:37.000And look, if you're good cops out there, and you're getting mad hearing this, well, you're guilty.
02:10:28.000Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof or abridging the freedom of speech or the press or the right of the people to peaceably assemble and to petition the government for redress of grievance.
02:10:39.000Now, you never heard it was Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
02:10:47.000This country, you know, my dad's family goes back to the Mayflower.
02:11:08.000And then my dad's side, kind of a scoundrel of a guy, but the captain of the Mayflower.
02:11:13.000Now, the whole point here is, ladies and gentlemen, they had gone and my mother's gone and visited where my family was from in England and then went over to the Netherlands.
02:11:24.000She's been over there, where they have the original little churches of the pilgrims.
02:11:30.000They were going all over the place trying to just try to read the Bible and not worship government.
02:11:35.000Because everywhere else you had a government-run church.
02:11:38.000And they spied on you, they didn't teach the Bible.
02:11:40.000It didn't matter whether it was England's fake Protestant churches, you know, from their perspective, the Catholic Church, all of it, it all became political.
02:12:15.000Going from a church outside jurisdiction into a contract.
02:12:18.000Now, Pastor Greg Dixon had the biggest stand-alone church in the country.
02:12:23.000It was all over 60 minutes, you name it.
02:12:26.000Uh, you know, anti-globalist, anti-New World Order, you know, just Bible believing.
02:12:29.000Biggest church, Indianapolis Baptist Temple, 8,000 plus member, uh, 41 years.
02:12:36.000And his son now pastors it, but they had been 501c3, and he can tell the story better than I, and then I've got Chuck Baldwin with him to go back and forth here.
02:12:46.000But the point is, is that they came and took their church.
02:12:49.000Now, they said, well, you've got to pay taxes.
02:12:51.000Their church members paid the fake income tax.
02:12:55.000But it's not the church's job to collect it and run it.
02:13:24.000And whether you're Catholic, Protestant, whatever it is, and even if you're not a, quote, Christian, you better be concerned.
02:13:30.000Because when the church has become state-run, you've got authoritarianism.
02:13:33.000Now Chuck Baldwin, you want to introduce this topic, because I know you're an expert on it as well, and then bring up Pastor Greg Dixon, a graduate of the Baptist Bible College, Springsville, Missouri, in 1953.
02:13:44.000And of course, the famous Baptist preacher in his own right, I'm not going to go over his whole bio.
02:13:50.000It was a 91-day, quote, siege, where they wouldn't leave the church, but the media called it a siege, like they were terrorists.
02:13:57.000And we'll give you their website as well.
02:13:59.000I mean, I'm ranting here because this is so evil, and it's just accepted now.
02:14:05.000So explain what's happening here, and did I break it down correctly, Pastor Chuck Baldwin?
02:14:21.000Greg Dixon was preaching the gospel without the 501c3 tax exempt status.
02:14:28.000The tax issue that you described was what happened and they came in and by the way, people need to realize that this took place under the Bush administration and GW Bush.
02:14:38.000In fact, this is one of the first things that the new GW Bush administration did.
02:14:45.000Was seized Indianapolis Baptist Temple.
02:14:47.000First time in history that a church in the United States had been seized by the federal government.
02:14:55.000And that happened under a Republican presidential administration.
02:15:24.000They're doing a great job for the Lord.
02:15:26.000But they definitely seized the church, and they sent a message to preachers all over America that you better kowtow To the IRS, or we're going to come and get you.
02:15:37.000And again, spun in the media like they stole money and demanded millions.
02:15:40.000Every dime had been paid to the Offshore Federal Reserve crime group.
02:15:45.000They just had the members of the church individually do it, because Congress can make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
02:15:54.000Pastor Greg Dixon, thank you for joining us today.
02:15:56.000I want to get into your story for people, but you You broke it all down, or you could say prophesied, it wasn't hard to do, that as you guys went down, the church would become a pure organ of Satan, and now by and large it has become that.
02:16:17.000I'm holding in my hands right here the front page of the Indianapolis Star, Wednesday, February the 14th, 2001, the headline says, Feds Seize Baptist Temple.
02:16:58.000But we were seen worshiping together the next night.
02:17:01.000At the Jonathan Byrd's cafeteria, the convention center out there.
02:17:06.000So they stole the land and the building?
02:17:08.000They've been worshipping together ever since.
02:17:10.000So they did seize the buildings and sold off six million dollars worth of property, 22 acres of land right in the middle of Indianapolis, and sold it for a million and a half.
02:17:23.000And there's where we had a Christian school.
02:17:26.000They now have a charter school, we say they have a communist school now, where we were teaching the Bible, they're teaching atheism, where we were teaching the free enterprise system, they're teaching communism, where we were teaching creationism, they're teaching Darwinism.
02:17:41.000So anyway, they've got their charter school there now, but the church is still going right on, praise God for that.
02:17:48.000But nevertheless, the church is still there.
02:17:51.000I think it's very important and it's good to Be united with my good friend Chuck Baldwin again.
02:17:59.000We've been good friends for a long, long time.
02:18:01.000We were comrades together in arms with a moral majority back in the 80s.
02:18:06.000It's always good to be with Chuck again.
02:18:08.000And he's a great soldier of the cross, I can assure you that.
02:18:13.000But I think it's important for people to understand that under communism in China, they had the Three-Self Movement.
02:18:24.000State-recognized churches, state-financed churches, and then the church was to espouse state propaganda.
02:18:35.000That's exactly what we have in America.
02:18:37.000We have state-recognized churches through incorporation, through 501c3 recognition under the IRS.
02:18:49.000Then you've got state finance churches through the tax-deductible gift and tax exemption, and then the churches are to espouse federal public policy.
02:19:03.000The reason that the churches won't take a stand and the pastors won't take a stand is because they don't want to give up their tax exemption and they don't want to give up their tax-deductible gifts because all of the religious organizations in America who are not churches, they couldn't exist without the tax-deductible gifts.
02:19:28.000So they're worshipping the golden calf.
02:19:31.000And the churches could not exist without the tax-deductible gift.
02:19:36.000The First Baptist Church of Dallas, downtown Dallas, they have just built a massive, massive That's where my grandma went when she... You know, I tell you what, stay there.
02:19:51.000We're gonna come back and talk about what this means.
02:19:53.000Even if you're not a Christian, folks, having a state-run church means look out, look out.
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02:26:03.000Well, what you're saying is absolutely correct, but see, we're going through the same thing that Daniel went through with Nebuchadnezzar, that the three Hebrew children went through, that the pastors went through with Hitler, and let me read it to you.
02:26:19.000Let me show you what I'm talking about.
02:26:22.000In 1998, under Clinton, under the Clinton administration, this has all been documented, All of the alphabet soup agencies, including the CIA, the FBI, the IRS, under the Janet Reno Justice Department, came together in the White House.
02:26:51.000And the not-for-profit division of the IRS that controls 750,000 churches in America, And their purpose of the meeting was to devise a plan classified as top secret called Operation D. And to devise a plan to control all uncooperative churches in America.
02:27:22.000And they said that their plan was a five-pronged plan.
02:27:31.000It included the financial power of the IRS, international pressures using the treaty powers of the UN, the investigative and intelligence forces of the FBI, CIA, and NSA, the judicial and prosecutorial assets of the U.S.
02:27:47.000Justice Department and federal courts, and congressional legislations.
02:27:51.000Now, they used all five of these against our church to bring us down.
02:27:58.000Our church was the first church That they used to bring pressure and to muscle us down.
02:28:11.000When reporters get detained in China, it's national news, but then we get arrested trying to do interviews, or trying to hand out literature now, or get tickets.
02:28:20.000I mean, we have become an authoritarian state.
02:28:23.000Now, prior to this, Tecan in Texas, and I'm not going into this in great detail, but prior to this, An organization called TCAN in Texas went through thousands and thousands and thousands of United Nations documents and came to the conclusion that the goal of the United Nations is to eliminate every local church on earth.
02:28:53.000To eliminate every local church on earth.
02:28:57.000Now that's what this whole issue Islam is about right now.
02:29:03.000They're using Islam now to destroy Christianity and then they'll turn around after they get through with that.
02:29:10.000Then they'll end up, then they will destroy Islam.
02:29:15.000But right now they're using Islam to destroy Christianity.
02:29:18.000Notice how they can't have Legos of Jabba the Hutt saying it's anti-Islam, has nothing to do with Islam.
02:29:24.000They're using it as political correctness.
02:29:26.000To bring in and say you can't criticize Islam out of the Bible, or you can't criticize homosexuality, or you can't, because that violates hate speech, to shut down and bring in one world religion that the UN openly is calling for.
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02:33:46.000But look at the Communists, the greatest mass murderers in history.
02:33:49.000They're anti-Christian, and Christians having to literally run to the hills.
02:33:52.000They just recently found families, you know, living out, multi-generation Christians from Ukraine who had gone hundreds of miles into the mountains in Siberia to survive.
02:34:03.000And this is the type of world we're talking about.
02:34:06.000And I think about my listeners, the family, the Haken family, where they claim they were at a tea party event.
02:34:16.000They rented their hotel room and found a small amount of marijuana.
02:34:47.000And it was the realization last night That it's going to get so much worse, folks, because people think by giving into evil that somehow it makes everything okay.
02:34:59.000And I wanted to ask Pastor Baldwin, before we go back to Pastor Greg Dixon here, of ChuckBaldwinLive.com.
02:35:06.000You can go to TheBiblicalLawCenter.com for Pastor Dixon's excellent site.
02:35:10.000Everybody needs to direct their pastors and preachers to this because I'm not even judging people that are 501c3 and don't really know or they don't really understand.
02:35:20.000You need to give the book Romans 13 to them.
02:35:22.000You need to send them to the Bible Law Center because...
02:35:26.000It was our churches that led the war against King George, and it's going to be the churches that lead in the forced inoculation, the gun confiscation.
02:35:33.000I can play newscast where they say, we are training for gun confiscation, forced inoculation, and to tell the families to go to the FEMA Center.
02:35:42.000It's of the Lord, Romans 13, do what you're told.
02:35:44.000I mean, I've played that clip probably a hundred times.
02:35:46.000Just type in Clergy Response Team into YouTube, you'll get the newscast.
02:35:52.000Okay, it's so creepy that they've been training the preachers to tell their flocks, just like in Red Dawn, they use the mayor and the preacher.
02:36:02.000When the Soviets take over to go, I mean this is classic, right out of an authoritarian novel.
02:36:35.000The system releases criminals, pays Al-Qaeda to murder Christian communities in Syria.
02:36:41.000I mean, the system hates good people and Not all departments are like this, but you can see, like the Bible says, certain cities get taken over by evil.
02:36:50.000You can see the evil cities versus the ones that aren't fully taken over, but the body snatcher operation is ongoing in every town now.
02:36:59.000Evil is on the offense right now, and I want to ask, who will, you know, lift up a standard?
02:37:04.000The Spirit of the Lord will lift up a standard when the enemy comes in like a flood, Pastor.
02:37:09.000Yeah, absolutely, and the only ones to do that are the pastors.
02:37:15.000Back in 1775 and 76, if it were not for the colonial pastors, the so-called Black Robe Regiment, there would have been no Bunker Hill, there would have been no Lexington Green, there would have been no Concord Bridge, no Declaration of Independence, no Constitution, there would have been no United States of America.
02:37:34.000It was the pastors of Colonial America that literally led the war for independence.
02:37:40.000They preached, they taught, they exemplified, many of them participated.
02:38:01.000From a diabolical point of view, it was a stroke of genius.
02:38:04.000Because what it did, it allowed the government to control the churches, and the preaching especially.
02:38:11.000The preaching of the churches via the threat of the loss of tax-exempt status with the IRS codes 501c3.
02:38:20.000So, what's happened since, coupled with the Romans 13 misinterpretation, obey the government no matter what, What you have is a double whammy against the pastors and churches, and the result is what we have today.
02:38:36.000A neutered, silent, scared, pitiful, pathetic pulpit until the pastors begin to awaken.
02:38:45.000Energize their congregations and have you heard churches all over the place are being told pull the crosses out I mean, I mean, I mean pretty soon.
02:38:54.000There'll be nothing I've heard of that and I you know I keep hearing more and more of this type of activity taking place and you got to ask yourself Where is it going to stop and the fact is it's never going to stop but these churches have been indoctrinated Also in the universities and the Christian colleges and the seminaries.
02:40:35.000See, for instance, the preachers are saying, well, they're not telling me what to preach.
02:40:40.000Well, that's like saying, well, they're not telling me not to speed.
02:40:47.000Well, you drive down the highway and you see a speed limit sign and it says 50 miles an hour speed limit.
02:40:56.000But just because a policeman doesn't come to you personally and say you're not to speed, that doesn't mean you're not supposed to speed.
02:41:07.000Well, just because the head of the IRS, the not-for-profit division of the IRS, doesn't come to you and say personally to you, or you don't get a letter from them saying you're not to espouse federal public policy, or that you're not supposed to endorse candidates or specific legislation, doesn't mean that you're not supposed to do those things.
02:41:31.000You can read the contract, you can read what the law says.
02:41:36.000Now, for instance... That's right, you've signed a covenant, so don't cop out and say you haven't, and look what's happened to the churches, and look at how selectively all the pro-abortion, all the anti-gun churches, they can say who to vote for, but if you get a constitutional church out there saying something, here comes the IRS, what's the IRS doing in a church?
02:41:56.000The answer is you're not a church now, you are a government corporation.
02:42:03.000The IRS is keeping every single preacher in America who speaks out on any public policy issue and it gets in the newspapers, it gets on television or radio.
02:42:18.000The IRS is keeping a file on that preacher the date that they gave that speech or the sermon Whether it was on the internet or wherever it was, let me give you an example.
02:43:45.000How many churches, how many preachers, Chuck, have you heard say, well, when they tell me I can't preach against homosexuality, I'll do something.
02:45:24.000They'll have their tail between their legs because in the first place, They're going to, the minute you get into court, they're going to say, you signed the contract.
02:45:37.000Is that, I mean, I don't think of myself as a tough guy or something, but I have no fear of them coming after me, what, maybe in the newspaper, they may set me up.
02:45:46.000I just have peace, other than wanting to resist them.
02:46:43.000We stopped being a federal tax collector for the government.
02:46:47.000We stopped collecting federal income tax.
02:46:56.000And our position was that these people are not employees.
02:47:00.000Well, they spin it like it's demonic to resist a corrupt government, but resisting is one thing.
02:47:08.000I mean, obviously, rebelling against God is super evil, but they call churches rebellious that don't submit to the government.
02:47:15.000What do you say to that Romans 13 issue?
02:47:18.000Well, in the first place, if you've signed the contract, you better obey the contract.
02:47:24.000But that's what the Biblical Law Center does.
02:47:27.000We help churches to organize and reorganize so they can be free from 512.
02:47:34.000And they're doing that successfully by the thousands.
02:47:37.000So, well, I can't, I'm not saying we're, they're doing it by the thousands.
02:47:40.000No, no, there are a lot of churches starting and a lot of ones that are, I mean, I got friends right out here that go to churches that have been around for decades that aren't 501c3.
02:47:48.000I know, but there's more to it than just, I mean, there's, you've got to, you've got to, that's why the Biblical Law Center is trying to, It's more to it than just... I'm telling you, there's more to it.
02:48:01.000Listen, we'll get Sean for a full hour sometime just to get into the law aspects.
02:48:05.000I know you've been through it yourself.
02:48:08.000But I wanted to get Chuck Baldwin's take here on the State of the Second Amendment and then get your take, Pastor Dixon.
02:48:14.000I mean, now the church is... Well, let me ask Dixon briefly.
02:48:17.000What do you make of the first, you know, the Southern Baptist and all the rest of them coming out and saying, basically, turn in your guns to the government?
02:48:25.000Well, in the first place, we're seeing now a specific line between fundamentalists and evangelicals, and we've been trying to tell them that all along.
02:48:38.000There's a difference between fundamentalists and evangelicals.
02:48:41.000And so these wimpy evangelicals now are wimping out.
02:48:49.000And so the evangelicals, they want to be seen as these nice guys and go along guys and to get along guys.
02:48:57.000And so they're saying, well, we can give in and we can give in on it.
02:49:01.000And they're doing the same thing on the immigration.
02:49:03.000They're saying, well, I was a stranger and we took them in.
02:49:08.000Well, I appreciate that verse, but it doesn't mean that you have to take some wicked people into your home and turn your children over to some predator just because the Bible says, I saw a stranger and we took them in.
02:49:23.000It doesn't mean that when Well, the point is, it's globalism, it's pure UN ecumenical takedown of America, and it's all moving now, and it should be an alarm bell.
02:49:34.000If your church is telling you you should know guns, ask why the government has guns.
02:49:55.000This is an issue that I'm just really passionate about right now because I think this is the defining issue for the future liberty and freedom of our country.
02:50:05.000The semi-automatic rifle is the most efficient, the most effective self-defense tool in modern time.
02:50:13.000It is equivalent to the Roman sword of the first century.
02:50:16.000Jesus commanded the disciples to buy the Roman sword and to possess the Roman sword.
02:50:22.000I would remind people that back in the Old Testament in Genesis 14, back before the Law of Moses or anything of that nature, when Lot was taken by five heathen kings, He armed his servants.
02:50:51.000It is a fundamental natural law principle that is given by God, whether we're Christian or non-Christian, no matter what our denomination or lack thereof.
02:51:01.000The righteous self-defense is sacrosanct.
02:51:04.000It is sacrosanct, absolutely, and it is given by God.
02:51:08.000And for preachers to acquiesce on this issue, Is absolutely, in my opinion, blasphemous against the laws of God.
02:51:17.000And unfortunately, Greg, I think you'd admit with me that there are many of our brethren In the fundamentalist ranks that have capitulated on this issue just as evangelicals have.
02:51:31.000Well, I haven't heard any of our unregistered church preachers.
02:55:47.000Oh yeah, if they get that, they get everything.
02:55:49.000We must draw our line in the sand on this issue.
02:55:55.000I mean, I have publicly said, I have publicly written, you've read my stuff and you see what I... I am willing to be a lawbreaker When they tell me that my semi-automatic rifle is against the law, I am willing to be a lawbreaker.
02:56:31.000That's why, again I have to say, that's why Tim and I wrote the book, To Keep or Not to Keep, Why Christians Should Not Give Up Their Guns.
02:56:39.000If we do not take a stand as a church on the issue of the right to keep and bear arms, and preach it from a biblical, natural law perspective, and make people understand that they are morally justified, they are spiritually justified in violating any law, That requires them to surrender their guns.
02:57:03.000If we don't take that stand and draw that line now...
02:57:19.000So you are aiding and abetting the enemy in what they're going to do.
02:57:22.000And that's why anyone that promotes it knowingly, like these police chiefs and stuff that know, they are active collaborators with the enemy.
02:57:30.000They are globalist operatives and we know who runs the New World Order.
02:57:41.000Well, I appreciate what you're saying, but what you have to understand is, and this may sound Pollyanna, but the First Amendment was written before the Second Amendment.
02:58:16.000And the preachers gave up the First Amendment.
02:58:22.000And if we weren't willing to fight for the First Amendment, why do you think they're going to be willing to fight for the Second Amendment?
03:00:29.000Made a lot of little people uncomfortable out there because they want to be in a trance, but it's now been seen as a seminal moment in television by many people.
03:00:37.000And it's because I simply got in his face and said, I know you're coming to take my guns to enslave me.
03:00:41.000Now it turns out the article's up at Infowars.com.
03:00:54.000That is the individual at CNN, Piers Morgan.
03:00:57.000They want our guns consciously to enslave us.
03:01:00.000And you got the state rep out in Colorado who says, well, we gotta ban 15-round mags, because after you've used the mag, you throw it away.
03:01:08.000I mean, you know, there's also a lot of useful idiots in this, so yeah, we shouldn't judge them all.
03:01:29.000Well, I appreciate what Chuck said, and I'm not talking about him.
03:01:33.000I just want to reiterate what we were saying, that the preachers, I'm talking about the preachers, if they're not willing to take a stand on the First Amendment and fight for God and the right to preach the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ unfettered, free from government.
03:01:56.000Why in the world do we think that they would be willing to fight for the Second Amendment?
03:01:59.000That's the point that I'm trying to make.
03:02:02.000And once again, I rejoice that there are still programs like this one, and we need to support Alex Jones and we need to stand and give thanks to the Lord that we still have freedom of the press in this country, that we still have programs of this kind, conservative broadcast, conservative television.
03:02:58.000Had the biggest church in the country, and found out about all this, did the right thing, and is now trying to bring the church out of bondage.
03:03:05.000And again, even if you don't believe in God, folks, when the government takes over the church, you're in trouble.
03:03:12.000Yeah, Alex, thanks a lot, and Greg's a great man, and I appreciate you having him on.
03:03:16.000Yeah, I just think it's absolutely critical that we, regardless of whether we call ourselves Christians or not, whether we go to church or not, that we understand the moral, biblical principles that are undergirding the Second Amendment.
03:03:31.000That the battle is being waged right now over the right to keep and bear arms.
03:03:40.000We must not capitulate, compromise, or surrender this issue.
03:03:44.000If we do, there is no more freedom of any kind left in the United States.
03:03:49.000And a lot of times I'm finding that many unsaved, unchurched people are more willing to stand for the Second Amendment than many of my Christian brethren.
03:04:11.000I hear in our fellowship in the Flathead Valley of Montana, Liberty Fellowship that I started a couple years ago.
03:04:18.000We have people of all types that come to our fellowship.
03:04:22.000Some don't even profess to be Christian.
03:04:24.000But they appreciate the biblically-based principles of liberty that we preach every Sunday afternoon from our pulpit that's live-streamed at LibertyFellowshipMontana.com.
03:04:35.000So I'm finding people of all kinds and all shapes and sizes.
03:04:39.000That are willing to stand and I'm very encouraged by that.
03:04:42.000What I'm not encouraged about is people like Franklin Graham and Richard Land and so many of these other preachers across America that are not willing to stand up in their pulpits for the Second Amendment.
03:04:53.000So I encourage people if they're attending a church where the pastor is not standing up for the Second Amendment Speak out.
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