Alex Jones guest hosts the Alex Jones Show on the GCN Radio Network from Austin, Texas. Today we talk about the Benghazi attack and the cover-up by the mainstream media. Big brother, mainstream media, government cover-ups. You want answers? Well, so does he.
00:00:58.000And what they're talking about in the mainstream media It's not exactly what occurred at Benghazi, what we need to be talking about regarding Benghazi.
00:01:06.000So we'll be talking about that a lot and we'll also be taking your calls.
00:01:10.000I believe Friday is First Time Friday or First Caller Friday, so we'll be taking your calls later.
00:01:16.000I'm really looking forward to engaging Alex's audience one-on-one and seeing what they think about my performance here.
00:01:23.000Anyways, of course, my name is Holland van den Nieuwenhoff.
00:01:27.000I have been on this show a couple of times, a number of times over the past couple of years, mainly, of course, regards to the work I've done on A Noble Lie, Oklahoma City, 1995.
00:01:41.000That documentary is, of course, available in the Info Shop, and it's the expose of the Oklahoma City bombing.
00:01:53.000Oklahoma City 1995 is the correct title.
00:01:57.000And we spent a number of years compiling that information and in doing so developed our own little viewpoint on false flag attacks and talking to people on the inside.
00:02:09.000As I have in my associates in research and writing, we have talked to some of the main players involved in these operations.
00:02:16.000And we've come to a realization of how these operations are executed on the ground.
00:02:23.000So using that lens I'll be applying it to current events and what may have happened or not in Benghazi and of course with the Boston bombing of which InfoWars has been on the tip of the spear.
00:02:36.000Literally breaking that story wide open something Alex and I have been talking about for a while now is the evolving curve of the information war.
00:02:45.000Not only are we unraveling these attacks immediately after they occur, we are unraveling them as the official script is being laid out.
00:02:54.000We are now actually dictating terms to the elite regarding the narrative they want to give to the American people.
00:03:01.000That was a battle, what happened after the Boston bombing, an info battle, and guess who won?
00:03:18.000And hopefully one that will dictate the course of future actions.
00:03:23.000Of course, if you want to check out A Noble Lie, go to the Info Shop.
00:03:28.000It's a two-hour documentary about the Columbus City bombing.
00:03:30.000And learning about that, it's not just learning about ancient history.
00:03:34.000First of all, some of the same players are still involved right now.
00:03:38.000Of course, Eric Holder being the primary one.
00:03:40.000He's now Attorney General of the United States.
00:03:42.000He was responsible, initiated and supervised Operation Fast and Furious, and has taken, I'm sure, a hand in many of the false-like attacks that have occurred since that one fell apart.
00:03:54.000Eric Holder, back in the late 1990s, was put in charge of the investigation into the Oklahoma City bombing.
00:04:02.000At the behest of the federal government for the Department of Justice and obviously we saw where that direction took us and how Eric Holder made his bones covering up for the elite in the very beginning of his career in government.
00:04:16.000I'm sure he had already been vetted before that but he definitely made his bones after the Oakland City bombing specifically And covering up the torture murder of Kenneth Trentadue, who was a prisoner in federal custody, mistaken for John Doe No.
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00:08:45.000You know, I've come up to the info operation here in Austin a couple of times, and I doubt there's another talk show host in the world who's employing, you know, as several dozen people as Alex is.
00:09:00.000But every single one of these people, you know, they are relying upon the support of the community, which is supporting Alex in his endeavors to expose the truth.
00:09:09.000So that is why your support is important, to keep us going, to pay the bills, literally, of the operation so we can continue to spread the word and continue to be a thorn in the side of the globalist elite.
00:09:25.000What Dan Bodondi did in Boston when he shut down a press conference of the governor, the entire world was watching that press conference and immediately after when he mentioned a false flag attack, guess what the world did?
00:09:37.000When they shut down that press conference, he went on Google, they went on Google, and they started looking up false flag attack.
00:09:43.000That was people across the world who saw that endeavor waking up.
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00:09:52.000Today, like I said, we'll be taking callers later on, but I'd like to get into a little of what Benghazi is going on there, the implications, and compare Benghazi perhaps to the most recent terrorist attack that has struck this country, the Boston bombings.
00:10:07.000When you look at Benghazi, four Americans killed, including a U.S.
00:10:12.000Ambassador, that compound under attack for hours.
00:10:16.000For those of you unaware of my background, I served the United States Marine Corps in the infantry.
00:10:21.000Not long after the Benghazi attacks occurred, I received a call on my own show, Radio Free Oklahoma on the Logos Radio Network, which is on Monday evenings, and it was a former Marine himself.
00:10:32.000I did not know him, but he was calling in.
00:11:05.000And I can tell you this, that had that been a legitimate affair, a simple if the crowd was simply mad because of some YouTube video that was produced in California several months before, There would have been a military response literally within minutes.
00:11:25.000Benghazi is right on the coast of Libya.
00:11:27.000There is a carrier group sitting in the Mediterranean.
00:11:31.000We have bases all over the Middle East, all over Israel, all over the region, in Italy, across the water.
00:11:39.000Had that been a legitimate affair, I guarantee within minutes there would have been helicopters circling over that embassy, with the Marines boiling out, armed to the teeth.
00:11:52.000What we saw was the embassy for the United States, the most powerful empire in recorded history, under attack for four hours by 60 members of a so-called mob, with no relief in sight.
00:12:08.000One of the tell-tale signs of an inside job, or that the fix is in, is the lack of military or security response when normally there would be.
00:12:19.000And when an ambassador for the United States is under attack for four hours, there should have been massive military response.
00:12:28.000And there was zero, which tells you someone gave a stand-down order, someone wanted those people to die.
00:12:35.000The information coming out of Benghazi is very interesting.
00:12:38.000It turns out that, of course, there was a weapons pipeline being run out of Benghazi.
00:12:42.000Those weapons that were used in the Libyan so-called revolution were now being shipped over to Syria, where they're being used now in Syria to fulfill our current foreign policy objectives there.
00:12:53.000Perhaps the attack had something to do with that.
00:12:55.000There also has been conjecture, informed conjecture, that the Benghazi affair was supposed to be a It was actually a public relations ploy, which turned into a fiasco, because apparently the thing is, that theory is that they were going to pull off kidnapping the ambassador.
00:13:18.000And then the Obama administration will pull off the master foreign policy coup of recovering the ambassador.
00:13:24.000I don't know if that's true or not, but the point I want to make is, is when you come up with these grandiose false flag attacks on paper and you try to execute them on the ground, that's two very different things.
00:13:35.000What they taught us in the Marines, that a plan never survives the first contact with the enemy, and that's usually true.
00:13:40.000And with these false flag attacks, for the most part, the covert arm of U.S.
00:13:45.000intelligence can rely upon the mainstream media to cover their tracks.
00:13:50.000It's not like when people criticize so-called conspiratorial thinking, or what I like to call the counter-narrative, the argument often is, well, you know, the government is so incompetent they can never pull this off.
00:14:08.000But they can rely upon the mainstream media to not connect these dots.
00:14:13.000Even though many of these anomalous facts may be reported at one time or another, it's never packaged for mass consumption when it's time to feed the story to the public.
00:14:22.000It's never put into the official narrative.
00:14:25.000And so that's what we're seeing with Benghazi.
00:14:28.000We're seeing the mainstream media basically complicit with the administration in what appears to be a horribly botched operation.
00:14:37.000In the light of the Boston bombings, I'm beginning to think that their learning curve is nowhere near the information revolution's learning curve.
00:14:47.000They seem to not be learning their lessons.
00:14:49.000What we saw in Benghazi, compared to Boston, was there are several dichotomous facts.
00:14:57.000One, of course, President Obama hesitated early on to label what happened in Benghazi an act of terrorism.
00:15:04.000When by definition any stretch of the word it actually is terrorism when you have a Crowd that's mad for whatever reason storming an embassy I mean that's happened before in American history, and it was called terrorism then why is it not terrorism now?
00:15:20.000With the Boston bombings you had the the initial manhunt of course which was botched and they later settled on to the two Chechen brothers and But you saw a manhunt for specific individuals.
00:15:33.000In the case of Benghazi, there is no talk of bringing the perpetrators to justice.
00:15:38.000The Obama administration is not talking about bringing the attackers of Ambassador Stevens into court, or bringing them to Guantanamo, or anything.
00:15:47.000There is no, it's not even on the table to seek justice for Benghazi.
00:15:51.000Because even trying to open up that can of worms and let people to learn even more about it might lead to that story blowing wide open and what actually happened.
00:16:01.000Now the Congressional Republicans right now are digging into Benghazi.
00:16:05.000It's probably not for truly altruistic reasons.
00:16:08.000We can be sure that party politics has a reason to play, but we can utilize this to our advantage and find out what they are finding out about Benghazi.
00:16:17.000Now, I don't know if they're going to take it all the way.
00:16:21.000Usually these investigations by partisan politicians do not take the investigations all the way where they need to go.
00:16:29.000But, we can still discover information, and the Republicans right now are on it.
00:16:33.000As much as the media is trying to downplay Benghazi and act like it's ancient history, in many ways they're trying to say it is.
00:16:40.000But it's not, because it is the current administration, and it deals with what is happening in the Middle East, and what exactly were they doing in Libya?
00:16:50.000Now, the truth on this event will come out.
00:16:53.000Eventually, we live in the age of information.
00:17:30.000And it will not impact what is going on.
00:17:34.000But the information revolution is not just about revealing information, reporting information.
00:17:39.000It's about acting on information, using that information to affect our choices.
00:17:44.000And if we act on the information that the administration lied about Benghazi, is lying about everything else, is lying about the Boston bombing.
00:17:53.000And if this partisan effort, if it is mainly partisan, I'm going to give the Republicans the benefit of the doubt on this because they are uncovering some good stuff.
00:18:00.000If they can take this investigation to where it needs to go, because where it needs to go, frankly, I mean, I know where it needs to go.
00:18:08.000But where it needs to go for right now is the Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, resigning or being tried for treason.
00:18:16.000Because she is ultimately responsible for what happened to her ambassador, to her embassy, on her watch.
00:18:23.000Her signature's on the papers, pulling down security from the Benghazi embassy.
00:18:47.000In fact, there were special forces officers saying that they offered to supplement State Department security of the embassy facilities there, an offer which was turned down.
00:19:01.000Of assistance for security because obviously they were planning to breach that security at Benghazi and pull up some kind of public relations stunt that obviously went very wrong.
00:19:14.000Once again, we're not saying the government is all powerful and they control everything.
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00:24:24.000I am guest hosting today, May 10th, this Friday.
00:24:27.000My name is Holland van den Nieuwenhoff.
00:24:30.000I am the writer and producer for the film documentary, A Noble Lie, which you can get at the InfoWars store at Noble Lie, Oklahoma City, 1995.
00:24:40.000The definitive expose of the Oklahoma City bombing.
00:24:43.000If you're unfamiliar with that work, let me assure you that our sources, our first-hand sources, our witnesses in the film are police officers, victims, family members, survivors, investigators, people who are directly involved with what happened in Oklahoma City and the things they saw were at a direct variance with the official narrative being dictated by the government and the mainstream media.
00:25:08.000This is a theme seen time and time again.
00:25:10.000People on the ground, first responders, seeing things that are directly contradicting what the government is saying.
00:25:17.000Now in Benghazi, we're seeing the same thing.
00:25:19.000We have Gregory Hicks, the number two man in Libya.
00:25:23.000In fact, when Chris Stevens, the ambassador, was killed in the Benghazi affair, Hicks became the number one man in Libya.
00:25:30.000His questions, his testimony about questioning what he was seeing regarding security, what the official narrative was, he started questioning the official narrative of the Benghazi attacks.
00:25:41.000And for that, he was demoted, made a desk officer after being a, you know, a service officer for 22 years.
00:25:48.000And in his own words, he was basically, they let him know that his line of questioning was unwelcome.
00:25:55.000Now if we are to expect a full and open inquiry into what happened in Benghazi, what we're seeing is the classic precursor to persecuting whistleblowers.
00:26:06.000And of course the Obama administration, contrary once again to its word and to its campaign promises, has been probably, at least in modern history, The most energetic in prosecuting whistleblowers who work for the government, even more so than President Bush.
00:26:28.000And, you know, all of the liberal sentiment behind the Obama administration, I can even respect genuine liberals who are perhaps are collectivists and believe in socialism.
00:26:39.000If you actually believe that, I can respect that viewpoint.
00:26:43.000But if you support the Obama administration, I now know that you don't even mean what you say.
00:26:49.000The Obama administration is not even liberal or progressive, or it's not even socialist.
00:26:54.000It's a warmongering extension of the corporate regime.
00:26:59.000And he's basically, like I said, replicating the first two terms of Bush.
00:27:05.000And all the celebrities and rock stars out there who are still supporting the Obama administration, look at what is happening.
00:27:10.000Compared to what is happening with this administration, the actions that they are doing with your ideals and with your sentiment, and if you cannot reconcile the two, one or the other needs to go.
00:27:36.000Please call in and we will engage the audience.
00:27:39.000Now, regarding Benghazi, if you go back to the beginning, you remember that they blamed it on a supposed YouTube video.
00:27:46.000And for that reason, this crowd in this one location in Benghazi, the only location in the world where people were getting mad about this video, they just happened to attack the embassy and kill the ambassador.
00:27:56.000Now, of course, I'm a filmmaker myself, I work in film, so when I looked at the so-called YouTube video, the Benghazi video, I don't even know what the title is, that supposedly inflamed the crowd, that caused these attacks, within about two minutes I realized, this is not a film.
00:28:13.000This is not even, there was no way someone was trying to sell this to anyone for investment.
00:28:43.000And I mentioned before that, of course, the Obama administration was not, at first was reluctant to regard the Benghazi attacks as terrorism.
00:28:54.000Because they don't want the anti-terrorism apparatus that they have helped build up inflicted upon themselves and asking questions, of course.
00:29:03.000It looks like we got a caller and like I said we are opening up the phone lines 800-259-9231.
00:29:08.000Call in and we will discuss your topic or your question.
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00:35:19.000Police officers who had their lives threatened by FBI agents.
00:35:23.000Don Browning was on the Infowars show not long after release, talking about the fact that in police headquarters, Don Browning, an Oakland City police officer, one of the first responders who helped save lives.
00:35:34.000Yes, he was confronted by an FBI agent who told him that he and his wife might lose their lives if he continued to ask questions.
00:35:43.000That is the caliber of people we are dealing with.
00:35:46.000We are dealing with simple thugs who threaten the lives of innocent people if you ask questions.
00:35:52.000We're seeing that being played out here also in Benghazi, where people who ask questions are having at least their careers threatened now, and if they keep on asking, even more will get threatened.
00:36:04.000Yeah, and I also tell him, by the way, that Officer Browning, forget just the fact he's a police officer, but he's a fact that he's a Vietnam vet, Marine Vietnam vet, actually a rifleman in Vietnam.
00:36:15.000So, you know, and I try to tell people, if Oklahoma was a false flag, everything that's going on now, the shooting at Newtown, the shooting in Colorado, in Aurora, Colorado, and other shootings, and including what happened in Boston, you can believe is a good chance The government is behind it.
00:37:22.000Thank you very much and also for your purchase of the Noble Eye and of course spread that around and this is something that I will relate to the audience and time and time again this is what I was striving for with the Noble Eye.
00:37:33.000What we were striving for was for that product to be a wake-up tool and I have had more than one person come to me and tell me that they were able to wake up stubborn members of their family or their friends Who were unable to grasp a lot of the information, but seeing it laid out in the way it was in A Noble Lie allowed them to make the conclusions that can only be gotten from a sober examination of the evidence.
00:37:58.000So it does serve as a valuable wake-up tool, and in that I am glad.
00:38:01.000So I thank you, Mark, for checking out A Noble Lie, for spreading the word, and for calling in.
00:38:13.000Like I said, I thank you, Mark, for bringing up that topic.
00:38:15.000When you verify that at least one event in American history, like the Oklahoma City bombing, was indeed a false flag attack, that did happen.
00:38:25.000And then you ascertain the fact that no one was held accountable, no one in government was fired, no one was held accountable for treason, for mass murder of their own citizens, for perpetuating that attack.
00:38:38.000When I say inside job, that it was an inside job, it was.
00:38:42.000But it's not that every street agent on the scene is involved in a cover-up of the fact that a criminal arm of the government blew up its own facility or blew up its own people to affect a political agenda.
00:38:54.000And that the people on the ground, and that's what you see in the use of these military drills, like in Boston, You saw the men in the black hoodies and the khaki tactical pants and the desert boots with the same backpack as the Chechen suspects.
00:39:10.000Obviously there was a military drill, police drill in effect at the time.
00:39:16.000Now the purpose of the drill, which is the common denominator many times for these false flag attacks, is twofold.
00:39:23.000It allows the movement of assets into place.
00:39:26.000It provides a plausible deniability and security for those assets if they're moved into place.
00:39:30.000Oh, we're just part of an exercise or a drill.
00:39:34.000After the fact, after it goes live, after it blows up, after there are casualties on the ground that they weren't expecting, the players were not expecting, the drill effectuates the cover-up because now all the people involved in what they initially thought was a legitimate law enforcement or military operation are now complicit in mass murder.
00:39:55.000And they're going to keep their mouth shut.
00:39:56.000And that's even if they care to report it.
00:39:59.000For the most part, all the people on the ground are covering up what they expect and what they think is simply a massive foul-up by their agency, which of course happens time and time again.
00:40:09.000And let's not leave it out of the purview of government employees to cover up their own mistakes.
00:40:14.000So the drill is twofold, to move the assets into place and to help effectuate the cover-up Actors the fact by letting all the law enforcement officers or military officers involved let them know Oh, by the way, this is part of an operation, but it's top secret and you can't talk about it Of course, I'm not making that up.
00:40:30.000We saw the same thing after the Oklahoma City bombing something that's not in a noble lie was the fact that several police officers on the scene who first responded were sequestered and Uh, brought together separately by FBI agents and told that there was an undercover operation going on involving the Ryder truck, involving what happened in Oklahoma City, and for security reasons, ongoing undercover operation, you cannot talk about it.
00:41:00.000They use that cover story time and time again.
00:41:02.000And the one thing I have delineated from my study of government false flag attacks is that they will not vary the formula if it's successful.
00:41:27.000Well, it's going to keep on working until we hold them accountable.
00:41:29.000Until we put enough pressure on the mainstream media to keep on asking those questions that are going to make the government uncomfortable.
00:41:36.000And until that happens, they're going to continue doing things the same way.
00:41:40.000But I think for Boston, they may have to change their methods of operation because Boston was very sloppy.
00:41:49.000Maybe they're losing their edge because they're not competing with the truth anymore because they can rely upon the media to just cover everything up.
00:41:58.000And I don't want it to be that way, but it is.
00:42:01.000And viewing the lens of Benghazi and the Boston bombings through what I've discovered first-hand, with the Oklahoma City bombing is amazing.
00:42:09.000I've interviewed first-hand players in the Oklahoma City bombing, members who were involved with the neo-Nazi right back in the mid-90s.
00:42:20.000One of those men, Johnny Bangerter, informed me that prior to the Oklahoma City bombing, he was in the Las Vegas area at the time.
00:42:28.000He was being approached by an informant who was asking him to bomb a federal building with ammonium nitrate and Tovex boosters.
00:42:38.000That does sound familiar, because that's exactly what played out several months later, on April 19th, 1995, in Oklahoma City.
00:42:47.000This guy, who was approaching Johnny Bangerter, pitching a script, literally pitching a script, which later played out.
00:42:53.000Now, the spooky thing about this, this man who was pitching the script was an ATF informant.
00:43:00.000So what we have is direct proof of the ATF using their informants, selling the OKC script around the country to various neo-Nazi groups, until someone obviously was foolish enough to take the bait.
00:43:13.000So you see the fact that they are approaching people before these attacks, trying to get them to effectuate these attacks.
00:43:23.000Time and time again with the so-called Christmas tree bomber, another incident that we're almost forgotten now because of these larger events.
00:43:32.000And what you see the SOP is the FBI sends an informer to approach some confused kid who's working at McDonald's.
00:43:38.000And he talks to him over some so-called jihadi website, which of course is a CIA front.
00:43:44.000And this young kid is talking to Jihad, paid to do it.
00:44:06.000And later, of course, that FBI handler hands him a cell phone and tells him to blow up something.
00:44:12.000So he dials the number and is arrested.
00:44:14.000He's still in jail for the rest of his life, and the war on terror is given more justification for its existence.
00:44:22.000So these operations are happening all the time.
00:44:24.000All it takes for an operation for something real to happen, a real bomb, is to take one of these existing, always existing, always ongoing sting operations, and instead of putting in fake explosives, like they say they do these times, put in a real bomb, like they did at Oklahoma City.
00:44:44.000And watch it blow up and watch every agent on the scene scramble for cover and start coming up with cover stories because they may not exactly know what happened, but they know they'll get in trouble for whatever happened.
00:45:30.000It's wonderful to get on talking to you guys.
00:45:35.000Yeah, it's just amazing how people just aren't being aware of the corruption that's going on there and these false flags.
00:45:43.000Things are becoming so obvious that it's just phenomenal that they just don't get it.
00:45:48.000Well, a lot of them do get it, but it's not in their interest to talk about it.
00:45:53.000Well, I don't know, they're being lazy or something.
00:45:55.000You know, I'm doing everything I can from down here because I talk pretty crazy myself and, you know, I'm doing the YouTube stuff and... Well, when you live in an insane world, being a little crazy is probably not an entirely bad thing.
00:46:09.000Well, what the Chico's call me down here is gringo local, so I might have deserved that in some respect, because they know I'm not your normal gringo down here.
00:46:19.000But it takes a while to get a little respect down here.
00:46:22.000But one of the things, too, with this whole corruption stuff and And this whole banking structure that's affected Costa Rica, which I'm really so sad to see, is the last two presidents have borrowed so much money, billions and billions and hundreds of billions of dollars from these same banksters in Europe that have been repossessed in Greece and Cyprus that are going for billions and billions and hundreds of billions of dollars from these same banksters And they're going to be coming here.
00:46:48.000They already done it to Stockton, California.
00:46:59.000What's happening in Europe, what is happening in Greece, what they tried to pull off in Iceland is just a precursor of what they're going to try to pull off We're not asking people to make fantabulous, you know, inventions here.
00:47:13.000Just learn the lessons of very recent history and apply them to what's going on today.
00:47:18.000What they pulled off, what they tried to pull off in Iceland, what they're pulling off in Greece, Spain, Italy, is what they're going to do in this country when the bill comes.
00:47:26.000We are no different and we are not immune from history.
00:48:05.000I mean, Costa Rica is definitely within the sphere of influence of the United States, and they're not going to allow an independent to run that country for too long.
00:48:40.000But I fully understand those people who flee tyranny that is happening in this country, who have seen history and seeing it playing out again in this country.
00:48:49.000You would be a fool to not read the signs and take action.
00:48:52.000Either get out or go to battle, one or the other.
00:48:55.000I'm not passing judgment on those who get out.
00:48:57.000I think you're wise to avoid what's going on in this country.
00:49:01.000I perhaps am not the smart one for sticking around and fighting it out, but then again, it's not the first time I've been accused of that.
00:49:08.000Anyways, we're going to our next caller, John from Texas.
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00:54:40.000I really want to get into the fact that the State Department has shut down the 3D printing plans that are being distributed, that they're citing an international arms control treaty They shut down a website that's doing plans on making a gun, printing a gun on a 3D printer.
00:54:57.000Of course, Alex has had Cody Wilson on the show in the past talking about this new evolution in manufacturing.
00:55:05.000The fact that now engineers are going to have more power than politicians.
00:55:17.000With their IQ, however, engineers, I'm fully confident, can pull off their plans competently.
00:55:25.000And the latest news coming out of Cody Wilson and his enterprise, his endeavors, is that the State Department has shut down his website and its distribution of files that allow 3D printers to print up the Liberator handgun.
00:55:41.000Which is a ABS plastic handgun that can be made entirely from a 3D printer minus the nail which you can buy at Home Depot as a firing pin.
00:55:50.000A weapon that fires apparently most popular pistol calibers.
00:55:55.000It's based on the Liberator pistol from World War II, which is a one-shot pistol dropped behind the lines to the French Resistance.
00:56:01.000The idea being that you took the Liberator in your hand, and you walked up to a German sentry, you dispatched the sentry with your Liberator, and you took his weapon, and now you were armed to fight the Resistance.
00:56:12.000Cody Wilson has invoked that name for the Liberator, and his new principal handgun And the State Department has struck back by shutting down the website and its distribution because apparently foreign users are offloading or downloading those files and that violates some international arms control treaty.
00:56:39.000Now what Cody Wilson and his people are doing is circumventing the whole political process by conventionally which they restrict and control our behavior through taxation, through laws, through bans, through prisons.
00:56:52.000When you can print up whatever is your heart's desire, if it be a gun, it really doesn't matter how many words are written on a piece of paper signed by the governor.
00:57:06.000What is happening on the ground is reality.
00:57:08.000And now, we're going to be able to see the capability to manufacture your own weaponry.
00:57:15.000Now some people may be predicting some kind of Mad Max chaotic world in such an event, but it's not too much different from what's going on now, because you can purchase basically whatever you want.
00:57:23.000You're just going to be able to circumnavigate government restriction on your freedom.
00:57:29.000So perhaps the new fight for freedom is not going to be in the halls of state capitals of the White House, of the Congressional Building in D.C.
00:57:38.000Maybe the future fight for freedom will be in laboratories.
00:57:54.000We want the hackers and engineers and technological gurus on our side.
00:57:59.000Because this obsolete system that they're trying to keep in place over us, controlling our behavior, is obsolete.
00:58:06.000They're refusing to come to grips with it, and now they're striking back by trying to ban things, like with the State Department, banning defense distributed from getting these plans on how to make guns out there.
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01:00:44.000I got a question I haven't heard anybody ask and one of the battle cries seems to be, quote Bono, who benefits?
01:00:53.000And on all the gun manufacturing and ammo shortages and stuff, it seems like the gun manufacturers and ammo manufacturers are benefiting.
01:01:01.000And I wondered if anybody had traced up the ownership of the gun manufacturers and stuff.
01:01:07.000Well, that's a very good question, Greg.
01:01:08.000And what you're seeing actually is pushback from many players in the gun industry, including Magpul out of California and other companies, PTR out of Connecticut.
01:01:18.000They are pulling out of their home states where they were founded, where they conduct their operations, because their state governments are restricting their ability to sell their products.
01:01:27.000That is an admirable and noble effort on their part.
01:01:30.000To exert effort to get away from there.
01:01:32.000We're seeing other gun companies who are being strangely silent.
01:01:35.000Now I'll give you a hint as to the gun companies are being strangely silent in this fight.
01:01:39.000They also receive hefty government contracts for the war on terror.
01:01:43.000Remington, HK, FN, those are the big gun manufacturers in this company.
01:01:49.000And the reason they are big is because they are making M4s and squad automatic weapons and M240 Gulls for the US military for their war on terror.
01:01:57.000That's where the real money and guns is, is government contracts.
01:02:01.000Not selling Ruger deer rifles to Jim Bob in Oklahoma City, okay?
01:02:12.000Anything compared to the money and the connections that are being forged with the major gun manufacturers that are dealing in government contracts.
01:02:21.000And those gun manufacturers have been strangely silent in this gun control fight.
01:02:26.000Maybe they don't want to jeopardize their government contracts.
01:02:28.000So if you really want to look into a conspiracy regarding the gun manufacturers, look into the gun manufacturers who are making their money off selling guns to the government.
01:02:59.000And consider a hypothetical situation.
01:03:01.000Let's just pretend for one moment that tomorrow on Fox News they aired, let's say, the director of the CIA literally confessing the whole operation to be an inside job.
01:03:26.000Of course, it would never happen, but let's say there's a five minute segment, there's a whole talking head thing, and anyway.
01:03:31.000And then after that, the media, mainstream media says, oh wait, we screwed up, we weren't supposed to air that.
01:03:35.000And of course, there's the blackout, like always.
01:03:38.000My point is, I could take that video, I could show it to ten people, they're all going to say I'm nuts, they're still not going to wake up, even if they believed the video, They'll sit there and ponder it in their head for a moment, and then they'll just go back to what they're doing, voting for Democrats or Republicans.
01:03:53.000The point is, I've woken some people up, just like some people have woken me up, but most of the people that I deal with, including my family, they're so stubborn that they just don't understand.
01:04:04.000They think that, well, on one side, they believe in the whole Democrat thing, and they watch CNN.
01:04:09.000On the other side, they watch the whole Fox thing, and they believe in the Republican Uh, philosophy, and I keep trying to tell them.
01:04:31.000It's all on record that it was an... Oh yeah, I mean, what you're arguing is not so much hypothetical, it's happened before.
01:04:37.000And referencing 1993, the first attack on the World Trade Centers, they admitted it was their bomb, they cooked them, they told them to do it.
01:04:44.000It was in the New York Times, 60 Minutes, and of course nothing occurs.
01:04:47.000I thank you for calling in, Scott, and we're going to break right now.
01:04:50.000And for those of you listening, we'll be right back after these messages.
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01:08:07.000Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us on this live Friday edition as we broadcast worldwide.
01:08:23.000I am coming to you from a South Texas highway as I drive down the road via the magic of audio Skype and Holland van den Nieuwenhoff, a filmmaker and researcher and talk show host in his own right, who I've known for Many years is come the master of ceremonies the MC today Who is basically the traffic cop?
01:08:45.000We're going to have also David Knight at the bottom of the hour pop in with a bunch of other breaking news Including new developments in the West fertilizer explosion Where they're now saying it might be foul play.
01:08:58.000We're going to be looking into that as well and obviously Benghazi then Jakari Jackson will pop in with some special reports coming up In the last 30 minutes and we're going to continue in the next two hours with open phones I will be live of course in studio this Sunday 4 to 6 p.m.
01:09:18.000Central Standard Time, but the reason I like to have Holland Vanden Heuwenhoff in Is that I listen to his show?
01:09:26.000Whenever I get a chance and of course he's comfortable on his own show And he's a first-class brain and does a great job.
01:09:35.000You can hear he's a little bit nervous doing this one, going from hundreds of thousands to millions of listeners.
01:09:39.000But he's doing a great job today, so I want to welcome him into the second hour.
01:09:43.000I know some stations and XM, now Channel 244, join us in the second and third hours.
01:09:50.000And of course, we also have InfoWars Nightly News.
01:09:52.000But I just wanted to tell you why I have Holland Van Den Neuenhoff hosting the show.
01:09:57.000He was a Marine Corps rifle leader, and he's just a great researcher.
01:10:03.000And I've heard his analysis, read his analysis, and it's been spot on on so many points.
01:10:09.000Plus, with the case of Oklahoma City, he got the film made that is the only professionally done definitive work 18, 19 years after that tragic event in 1995, open and shut who the players were, the bombs inside the buildings, who planted them, directly the bombs inside the buildings, who planted them, directly from the police officers and other survivors.
01:10:32.000A Noble Lie, 1995, available on InfoWars.
01:10:36.000Store.com and get it show it to friends and family because they will then understand false flag you see something like Benghazi or you see something like You know something out there like the Boston bombing when you study Covert history, military history, black-op history, staged event history, and there's hundreds of declassified French, Italian, British, German, Nazi, Russian, Communist, Czarist before them, Maoist staged events.
01:11:06.000When you learn the Romans were obsessed with staging events and blaming it on their enemies, when you learn that this is such a part of history, then you look at each new event and say, well, is it the usual culprit or is it a real event?
01:11:44.000But there was a drill there and a stand down as well.
01:11:46.000They use the drill so if their operatives get caught, they can then say it was just part of the drill.
01:11:53.000They use it to also confuse everybody when the event happens so no one knows who was involved because there were so many people there taking part in something that mirrors it.
01:12:01.000But in the case of Benghazi, for those that don't know, when I've covered Bilderberg in the U.S., uh... last year and four years before that almost five years ago in virginia they had marines in plainclothes following us Uh, breaking in our room.
01:12:58.000The Al-Qaeda forces were hired to be the head of security in Benghazi.
01:13:02.000There was a stand-down, not a six-hour, more like an eight-hour, from when they began to desperately call for help, and the group was massing out front.
01:13:11.000And Holland, we talked privately about what you believe happened, and I wish you'd break down some of that, because a lot of my other sources agree, they were meant to attack the place, use the protest as the cover to get the missiles in the warehouse behind it, so the government could have plausible deniability later and say, Al Qaeda stole the heatseekers, which they're now showing on London Guardian and Associated Press.
01:13:37.000But regardless, when they lied, and we now have a congresswoman, Up on InfoWars.com, saying, we ought to play that clip later if we have time, when David Knight comes in, you know, saying, no, Obama knew, Obama ordered the stand down.
01:14:29.000So I want you to be able to break that down, Holland.
01:14:33.000And also continue to take some more calls, but for those that study this, it came out day one that they stood down.
01:14:41.000It came out day one they had predators over it and got caught lying.
01:14:44.000Five days after it happened, they had Rice, ambassador of the UN, say that this wasn't terror, no one thought of it.
01:14:51.000If terrorists and hundreds of guys, first 200, then 300, then some message 400 or more, with anti-aircraft weapons at point-blank range and grenade launchers and bazookas and heavy machine guns and a stand-down with inside knowledge of how to break in and how to get past the countermeasures, this is ridiculous. with anti-aircraft weapons at point-blank range and grenade launchers and And again, it's hiding in plain view.
01:15:12.000And what's happened is they're using 1960s and 70s events when they controlled the newspapers and they controlled all the media to still run these events and it doesn't work anymore.
01:15:23.000So, Holland, I wanted you, before we go to break, to spend the next five minutes.
01:15:26.000We know they're lying about Benghazi, but what do you think exactly happened there, and how big will this be?
01:16:48.000And perhaps they were trying to play it during the Boston bombings.
01:16:51.000And that would be hard for me to impart the frustration, the feelings I was going through watching that go down nearly on the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing.
01:17:00.000During on Patriots Day, when these significant dates in effect and we see terrorism again striking America.
01:17:10.000Like Alex said, I served the United States Marine Corps.
01:17:13.000I was a rifle squad leader and I took my oath seriously to the Constitution to defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic activists.
01:17:21.000I nearly yelled those words in the recruiting station when I gave the oath because I meant it.
01:17:26.000And I told my Marines also that if I ever get the order to disarm the American people, the officer who gives that order, well, he's going to be a very unlucky man that day.
01:17:34.000And I'm headed home to defend my family.
01:17:39.000I'd actually like to make a revelation on air here on the Alex Jones Show.
01:17:44.000One of the arresting officers of the Chechen bombers, the one they found in the boat, one of the arresting officers was actually in my rifle squad in the Marine Corps.
01:17:58.000And he is unable to provide me with information.
01:18:02.000And when Anderson Cooper had the Watertown SWAT team on air, in gear, Talking about their noble capture of the suspect, I noticed that my friend, who was the officer who cuffed that man, was not in that crowd.
01:18:28.000They don't want people talking about the arresting officers talking about what they saw, the fact that in that boat that that kid had no weapon, that they riddled the boat with bullets trying to kill him.
01:18:39.000I was very surprised when they found that found that boy alive.
01:18:43.000And then when he stood up, when he stood up, no blood out of the throat, then he cut his throat out, and now we have the video and the audio of them saying, don't shoot, we didn't do it.
01:18:51.000You have the witnesses saying they didn't shoot.
01:18:53.000They had orders to get rid of those guys, just like the two dead cops, Friendly Fire, just like the cops shooting nine people in New York last year, trying to cover that up, saying it was a mass shooting.
01:19:06.000I mean, we would be crazy To believe what known liars are telling us over and over again.
01:19:11.000But, Holland, what you said, I know we're going to break, when we come back, what you said at the very start of the show, you should repeat that, that was an info war battle over the truth.
01:19:22.000At the beginning and middle and now throughout the next phase of the Boston bombing.
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01:33:14.000So, Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
01:33:25.000I'm guest hosting today, May 10th, Holland van den Oorenhof, Ivan Studio, Special Info Wars reporter David Knight with some topics, some timely news.
01:33:36.000Before we go into that, we had a caller call in earlier announcing the news that someone had been investigated or there was an opening criminal investigation into the West Texas fertilizer plant explosion.
01:34:55.000Yeah, there's a lot of suspicious stuff about that, and we've had a lot of people asking us to do more reporting on that.
01:35:02.000We've tried to stay on the obvious false flag with the obvious agenda, which is the Boston bombing.
01:35:08.000You know, personally, I felt that if the government was involved in this in some way, if it wasn't, it wasn't likely that it was an accident, you know, but, you know, if it was just a criminal case, because there was a long-standing lawsuit between them and Monsanto, that had been kind of dormant for a while.
01:35:24.000It wasn't really clear what motivations anybody had, either personal or government motivations in this, if anything, because like you said, the timing and the location looked like it might be a distraction.
01:35:39.000And speaking of that, I gotta tell you, this is the first time we've met.
01:35:43.000I really love your documentary, A Noble Lie, and we've mentioned that many, many times from day one with this Boston bombing, and the fact that there were certain elements that were present that made it obvious that there was something going on here that wasn't exactly what the government was telling us.
01:35:58.000The fact that we had eyewitnesses saying that it was a drill at the beginning and at the end, and even the police chief saying that they had an unusually large number of people there, they were paying special attention to the finish line and all that sort of thing, as well as the pictures that surfaced and that sort of thing.
01:36:12.000But, as we told people, your documentary, Noble Light, it took a long time for that to come out.
01:36:17.000There were elements at the very beginning that were clear.
01:36:19.000I remember back when it happened, and I remember the New American carrying a Brigadier General, you probably... Hinton K. Parton, yes.
01:36:41.000We didn't have alternative media then.
01:36:42.000We didn't have people that were staying on this stuff in real time.
01:36:46.000The government media basically was just, oh yeah, that's the way it is.
01:36:50.000So, but the stuff that you turned up took a long time to come out.
01:36:53.000It took a lot of investigation on your part.
01:36:56.000Same thing happened with Mike McNulty and Waco.
01:36:58.000You know, he did a series of documentaries on Waco over a 10-year period of time.
01:37:03.000And as time goes on, the truth eventually leaks out, even when you've got a controlled press like they did in the early 90s.
01:37:10.000Even when you've got the government actively suppressing people and actively, in the case of that police officer, you know, perhaps killing him.
01:37:57.000So, when people say, when people look at our research, and we have to document stuff more carefully than the mainstream media does because they rely on your credulous faith.
01:38:06.000Well that's the thing Dave, and that's the thing about, there was a caller earlier trying to explain his frustration about trying to wake people up, and the position we are in trying to fight the official narrative is that every single one of our facts must be true to the T, ultimately vetted, because the thing is when you're trying to wake someone up and you're presenting them with information, If you have one fact that it's not backed up, they will latch on to that and hold on to that regardless of the rest of the bulk of your argument.
01:38:34.000It's all lost because one thing that you said perhaps did not pan out to a tee.
01:39:17.000Conspiracy is two or more people engaging in a criminal enterprise.
01:39:20.000I mean, that's the bulk of criminal activity.
01:39:22.000Right, and the government charges people with a crime of conspiracy all the time.
01:39:26.000But they level that charge at us essentially to say, you're off in loony land.
01:39:30.000But like you said, we have to carefully document everything.
01:39:33.000And it was amazing to me that this hit piece that came from National Review against Alex Jones was basically talking about the gospel of Alex Jones and how he's got some credulous audience that just takes everything that he says on faith.
01:39:45.000But in reality, they didn't back that up with anything.
01:39:47.000Even the first paragraph they went into was talking about bullets and ammunition story.
01:39:52.000Which, from day one, we linked to the FedBiz op page, which showed the actual purchase order.
01:39:58.000And now it turns out Senator Inhofe is now confirming that's all true.
01:40:02.000And the National Review made the incredible statement that the ammunition levels were the same as they were the previous year, and it was all for target hunting.
01:40:10.000And we had deceived these congressmen and senators who were coming in there.
01:40:14.000So they threw their own Republican senators under the bus.
01:40:17.000Yeah, National Review is supposed to be an arch-conservative, has been an arch-conservative paper for decades, or news magazine.
01:40:24.000How come they are serving, how come they are fulfilling a propaganda agenda for the government?
01:40:30.000Well, because from the beginning they were affiliated with the CIA, William F. Buckley, and the neocons, and they have basically been cheerleaders for every military engagement everywhere.
01:40:39.000So just like MSNBC, you know, and CNN, yeah, if you scratch their roots, you find the CIA and you find the military-industrial complex, you know.
01:40:48.000Is that so hard to believe, people, that the media is controlled?
01:41:33.000And a lot of people have called into question, and of course there's a lot of risk, as people pointed out, there's a lot of risk that the government can false flag that.
01:42:08.000Let's play that special report right now guys.
01:42:13.000Okay, they got it coming up in just a second.
01:42:15.000Washington Police Chief Kathy Lanier had this to say when asked about Adam Kokesh's planned 4th of July march into Washington with loaded rifles.
01:42:24.000First, I want to clear up, there's a difference between civil disobedience, which I think is this is being portrayed as a civil disobedience, and actually violation of the law.
01:42:32.000I mean, there's two different things here.
01:42:33.000So, civil disobedience, people come to Washington, D.C.
01:42:37.000to protest policies and government policy all the time, no problem.
01:42:42.000But when you cross into the District of Columbia with firearms and you're not in compliance with the law, now you're talking about a criminal offense and there's going to be some action by police.
01:42:50.000So, Chief Lanier wants to make some kind of a distinction between civil disobedience and violating the law.
01:42:57.000So, here again is her definition of civil disobedience.
01:43:01.000Civil disobedience, people come to Washington D.C.
01:43:04.000to protest policies and government policy all the time, no problem.
01:43:08.000Note that Chief Lanier characterizes peaceful assembly in order to petition the government as civil disobedience.
01:43:15.000But what law does a demonstration break?
01:43:18.000When someone exercises their right to protest, specifically recognized by the First Amendment, how is that disobedience in any way?
01:44:11.000Martin Luther King had this to say about violating a court order against him marching.
01:44:17.000That I do feel that there are two types of laws.
01:44:20.000One is a just law and one is an unjust law.
01:44:24.000I think we all have moral obligations to obey just laws.
01:44:29.000On the other hand, I think we have moral obligations to disobey unjust laws because non-cooperation with evil is as much a moral obligation as is cooperation with good.
01:44:41.000Civil disobedience always involves violating a law.
01:44:45.000That's where the disobedience part comes in.
01:44:47.000So Kathy Lanier's distinction between civil disobedience and violating the law is nonsense.
01:44:53.000But what is the law that Adam Kokesh and his marchers would be disobeying or violating?
01:44:59.000The very law that was struck down by the Supreme Court in 2008.
01:45:05.000Now, it's interesting to note that Dick Heller, the plaintiff in the case, was actually a D.C.
01:45:09.000cop who was suing for his right to carry a gun off-duty.
01:45:14.000Of course, the real precedent for it being an individual right is the Second Amendment itself.
01:45:19.000Both the Court of Appeals and the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that D.C.' 's gun laws violate the Constitution.
01:45:27.000Washington, D.C.' 's Firearms Control Regulation Act of 1975 specifically outlawed handguns and requires all firearms, including rifles and shotguns, to be kept, quote, unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock.
01:45:44.000That is why I imagine Adam Kokash and the D.C.
01:45:47.000marchers are going to be marching with loaded rifles to illustrate the fact that Police Chief Lanier and the District of Columbia have thumbed their noses at the Constitution and the Supreme Court decision of five years ago.
01:46:01.000So, Police Chief Lanier, there is no difference between civil disobedience and violating the law.
01:46:06.000But since you maintain there's a distinction, I would ask you, is your refusal to obey a Supreme Court ruling of five years ago that was made specifically about your gun laws, and your refusal to obey the Constitution that you swore to uphold, is that civil disobedience, or is that violating the law?
01:46:57.000I mean, it's almost as if, you know, if you're going to come here and have a protest I don't really want you to do that, but I'm going to tolerate it.
01:47:03.000And that makes me such a wonderful person because I'm tolerating you speaking your mind.
01:47:08.000I mean, if you go all the way back to Thoreau, the whole idea is that if you've got an unjust law, in his case he was protesting slavery and the Mexican-American War.
01:47:18.000And he was saying, you know, if you allow these injustices to go on, you are consenting to those.
01:47:24.000And so what he's saying is when the government is, and then that was applied to specific laws in the case of Gandhi and Martin Luther King.
01:47:30.000You have laws that are on the books that are unlawful, unconstitutional, immoral.
01:47:36.000I mean, the thing is, we have an obligation to fight that.
01:48:14.000So you've got a law that we can all read and we can all understand it because it's clear, but if the Supreme Court says that it means exactly the opposite, then that's what we're going to go with, the Living Constitution.
01:48:24.000And it'll be unclear because it'll be written by lawyers and Supreme Court justices.
01:49:20.000But that's what you have, is you have a bureaucrat in uniform without a sense of irony, telling us that civil disobedience is following the law.
01:49:28.000I guess, well, she probably did go to public school is what it is.
01:49:31.000And look at the way they control demonstrations, though, too.
01:49:33.000I mean, you know, you've got controlled free speech zones when they have political conventions and everything.
01:49:38.000They put people, literally put the demonstrators in cages.
01:49:41.000And give them one microphone and a soapbox.
01:49:43.000I mean, it's absolutely absurd what they do at political conventions.
01:49:47.000It's absolutely absurd what they do at G8 conventions or anything.
01:49:50.000You know, Rabdu was arrested a couple of years ago.
01:49:53.000And he wasn't even, they were miles away from the event.
01:49:56.000And they sent out an army of like 1,500 cops to bully and bludgeon and arrest a crowd of demonstrators, ironically against police brutality.
01:50:07.000So, I mean, you know, talk about not having a sense of irony.
01:50:16.000They just have a sense of what authority is telling them what to do.
01:50:18.000Uh, on the 3D gun issue that I heard you talking about yesterday.
01:50:22.000It was interesting that that broke just as he had already been scheduled in an interview with Alex.
01:50:27.000And he was on the interview with Alex when he got that and so that kind of broke here and Jakari interviewed him yesterday because he's here locally at the University of Texas in Austin.
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01:55:18.000Yeah, they were building up that narrative.
01:55:20.000I remember several years ago when border violence was making news, and I saw President Obama get on the news and say that the border violence was a result of, of course, guns being, you know, bought in American gun stores.
01:55:31.000I was thinking... He just repeated that again this last week, down in Mexico.
01:55:52.000Indirectly, you could say the entire Mexican drug war is American foreign policy.
01:55:57.000Because when you look at the gun violence in American cities, for example, the Chicago police chief has said that 80% of the firearms fatalities in Chicago are drug gang related.
01:56:07.000It's all about, it's just, you know, Same thing we had with Al Capone, driving by and shooting rival gangs with machine guns.
01:56:34.000Twenty people don't get shot in one day in Afghanistan, okay?
01:56:37.000But it happens on the streets of Chicago where guns are illegal.
01:56:42.000So why do you think, how do people think, or politicians think, that outlawing guns on a mass scale is going to solve any problem besides criminalizing guns and making every gun crime wall shoot through the roof because literally guns will be illegal?
01:57:00.000Arms Trade Treaty, I believe that the goal all along, for this round at least, ultimately they're after total prohibition, but their goal this time around is registration.
01:57:48.000They tried to pull off a contrived agenda and it blows up literally in their face.
01:57:54.000So that had broken and it was interesting that exactly a week to the day before they were to have the UN Arms Trade Treaty they did the Aurora Colorado shooting happened.
01:58:11.000So what they did was they delayed it to after the American election.
01:58:14.000And it looked like they were going to set it up to do it as a lame duck session, but they did it afterwards because they had big wins in the Democrats and Obama.
02:00:14.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
02:00:18.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:00:24.000Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show, May 10th, 2013.
02:00:28.000I'm the guest host today, Holland van den Oornhoff.
02:00:33.000We had David Knight on with a special report on the planned armed march in DC on July 4th by Adam Kokesh and others.
02:00:43.000Adam Kokesh obviously is a former Marine like myself, so I am following this very closely.
02:00:49.000I respect the man very much and his courage in taking an armed march on DC not to Break the law, or to commit violence, but to demonstrate our belief in our ability to carry our firearms wherever we like, to assert our rights whenever we like, and not ask for government permission.
02:01:12.000Because if you have to ask for permission too many times, eventually you're just going to be banned.
02:01:56.000For the very reason this government, not just this government and the United Nations, is so intent on stripping us of our right to firearms.
02:02:05.000Why are they so intent on disarming us?
02:02:08.000If they're not after our guns, why are they doing it, and why?
02:02:13.000What is in the future that we're going to take such offense to, where they're going to be afraid of an armed populace?
02:02:21.000If you cannot trust your people with firearms, then the government cannot be trusted.
02:02:25.000And the fact that they're exerting such effort, years in the making, fast and furious, like David Knight said, was specifically planned to culminate within a certain time period, which failed.
02:03:10.000Utilizing ATF, FBI, monitoring gang members, or encouraging them to purchase firearms in American gun stores.
02:03:18.000When those gun stores, when the owners exhibited reluctance to sell firearms to known gang members and called the ATF saying, hey man, I don't want to sell to this guy.
02:03:49.000Those guns have been recovered from thousands of crime scenes where innocent people, victims of the war on drugs in Mexico, have been slain.
02:04:00.000And they were slain by weapons provided by the United States government that they moved across the border into a foreign country.
02:04:08.000And like I said, the people of Mexico need to wake up to what's really going on.
02:04:13.000But the fact that they tolerated President Obama to come over there and lecture them about gun violence when President Obama is personally directly responsible for over 3,000 deaths and serves a system that's indirectly responsible for thousands more because of the war on drugs.
02:04:29.000He needed to be talked to about what his government had been doing in Mexico.
02:04:33.000Not trying to tell Mexico how to stop gun violence in this country.
02:04:39.000Anyways, you're listening to the Alex Jones Show.
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02:08:00.000Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order, it's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network. it's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network. .
02:08:23.000Welcome back to the last hour of the Alex Jones Show.
02:08:25.000I'm guest hosting today, May 10th, 2013.
02:08:32.000I've been on the show a number of times.
02:08:34.000I guest hosted for the first time several months ago.
02:08:36.000I had a wonderful time, and I thank Alex for inviting me back.
02:08:39.000Apparently he wanted to take the day off.
02:08:40.000He does have a long, hard schedule, so I'm more than happy to give him some relief and to have the honor.
02:08:48.000To be on one of the most popular radio and news shows in the world, especially in the light of what happened after the Boston bombing.
02:08:55.000When people have become aware, when Google searches for the term false flag attack increased a hundredfold, you know that this audience is increasing and people are waking up.
02:09:04.000Of course, I've been asked on to host because of the special insight I've learned and gained as a researcher, writer, producer for the documentary A Noble Lie.
02:09:13.000Oklahoma City 1995, which is about the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, the first modern expose of that event.
02:09:22.000I highly recommend that product, if only, not only because I worked on it, but if only because I've been told more than once, and this is the greatest honor I could have gotten out of that movie.
02:09:32.000Was that that film has provided has been a wake-up tool to so many people by the very fact when they look at Oklahoma City and they realize the weight of evidence that is contrary to the official story but yet the government and the media is still invested in the official story people realize the depth of the lie that they will engage in To cement their control.
02:09:54.000Knowing that to be true, people can apply that to current events and view those events through that lens and perhaps not abide by whatever horrific agenda is always on the table when these deep state events occur.
02:10:11.000This is the last hour of the Alex Jones Show.
02:10:13.000We're going to have Jakari Jackson coming on in just a few short minutes giving a special report.
02:10:17.000We have a number of callers on the line.
02:10:19.000I want to get to them because they've been patient.
02:10:22.000It looks like we have Witness in Texas.
02:10:25.000Hello Witness, if that's your name, you're on the Alex Jones Show.
02:11:03.000And I've been trying to get through to talk about this ever since.
02:11:07.000And the most recent one was Uh, the presiding Judge Biscoe of the Travis County Commission Court, he banned me for four months, meaning 16 weeks.
02:11:20.000I go every week, and this is for five years now.
02:11:22.000I have a better attendance record than even the judge.
02:11:25.000Well, you know, if every citizen out there is a thing, there was a lesson from the Gulag Archipelago, where a prisoner decided to fight back against the system by basically filling out every single piece of paperwork there was.
02:11:40.000He was simply playing the system by its own rules, and basically brought that whole camp To a halt, because every prisoner around him was writing letters to certain bureaucrats, certain officials that had to be answered, had to go through a process.
02:11:53.000The whole system in that region ground to a halt by weight of paperwork.
02:11:57.000Now, if we as citizens actually just get on the ground and get involved in every aspect of civil, meaning government life, that would bring the whole thing to a grind right now, which is why probably they find your obstinance so unnerving.
02:12:13.000Hallelujah, that's exactly true, and friends are starting to come.
02:12:19.000I was told by a couple of friends that they would actually come to the Travis County Commission Court and speak on my behalf.
02:12:26.000That didn't happen, but scheduling conflicts came up, but they're going to help me.
02:12:33.000There are more people who are helping me on this, and again, my big crime was just, I They're there to speak on an item on the agenda.
02:12:47.000They don't want the citizens asking questions.
02:12:50.000They want a rubber stamp on what agenda they wish to implement.
02:12:54.000And if a citizen stands up, even in the halls of city council, and begins to exercise his civic duty in this day and age, that citizen can become a problem very quickly.
02:13:53.000That's not wise to insult a judge in his own courtroom.
02:13:56.000Is there another, is there an upcoming event you're going to be attending, speaking at, you need to raise support for?
02:14:03.000Yes sir, I go every Tuesday and that is every weekly meeting of the Travis County Commissioner's Court and they start at 9 and I need, we all need more people to show up.
02:14:15.000I'll speak on my behalf or just I mean, he doesn't have that role to define me, my constitutional rights, because he didn't like the question I was going to ask.
02:14:43.000We'll get to the next caller in a second.
02:14:45.000It's a very good point, fighting back on the local level.
02:14:49.000The political game on the national level, on the big level, that's fixed.
02:14:52.000We saw that with the Ron Paul campaign in both presidential elections.
02:14:57.000Where the will of the people was and how the establishment responded by literally stealing elections, stealing conventions, locking doors on people, behaving in childish manners to preserve their stranglehold on the way we educate our environment, our so-called democracy.
02:15:15.000So knowing that, that the national game is fixed, how do we fight back?
02:15:59.000He's, you know, he's got so much on his mind.
02:16:03.000I do live in Illinois, and I'm very, very aware of what's going on here, and I've always questioned certain things, but certain people always says, like you say on the radio, conspiracy theory.
02:16:16.000But I've always been that person, like, in the matrix where you're half-asleep and half-awake.
02:16:22.000You know, I just came back from Illinois, Anne-Marie, on a project and I've never been to that state.
02:16:27.000I am returning, not by choice, but for the project.
02:16:30.000And I was amazed at the police state presence outside Chicago.
02:16:37.000I mean, I grew up in Oklahoma, I've lived in Texas and lived in a couple different places around the world.
02:16:42.000But I've never seen on a highway in America, or no, a street in America, within a quarter mile, three different police officers just standing there by the side of the road, pointing a radar gun at traffic.
02:18:27.000Is there anything else you'd like to talk about?
02:18:30.000Um, just I hope that your listeners are listening and I hope that more people like me start to wake up and realize that we are in control and we need to voice our opinion.
02:18:41.000And I hope that, especially from my community here in Illinois, realize that this is all a game.
02:18:49.000Well, people are waking up, Ann Marie, and even in Illinois, which is the heart of the beast in many ways, your efforts are even needed more directly.
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02:24:47.000I do agree with Alex on that, but I want to talk about the hearings yesterday because I think this is where we'll see the agenda starting to play itself out.
02:24:56.000This is what I took from watching the hearings.
02:24:59.000There seem to be three agendas, five agendas.
02:25:02.000The first one is that they want to eliminate the police jurisdictions that separate radio communications between different small town departments and other town departments.
02:25:13.000Do you think they want to do that to restrict people listening in on those communications?
02:25:17.000They want to open up, they want to be able to override the small town.
02:25:23.000Police radio transmissions so that they could, for instance, call for a stand-down.
02:25:28.000The Watertown police were the first to arrive at the boat, and I think that they're responsible for saving that kid's life, because if they hadn't been there, I don't know if he'd be alive today.
02:25:36.000Like I said... That's the one thing they want to do.
02:25:39.000They want to criminalize not reporting if your neighbor, your friend, your spouse, or your parents don't express anti-government sentiments.
02:25:49.000Well, they're already talking about it in Florida, where they're saying that if your neighbor hates the government, I want to know that man's name.
02:25:56.000Exactly, or you're liable for a crime.
02:25:58.000The third point is that they want to monitor the Internet and people's use of the Internet to visit anti-government websites.
02:26:06.000Yeah, they're talking about the self-radicalization, once again blaming an inanimate object, the Internet, as being responsible for this terrorist act.
02:26:15.000They want to be able to censor the internet, and they want to be able to promote the demonization of Islam.
02:26:22.000And I think, more than anything, they want to promote the demonization of Islam.
02:26:26.000And I think that... Well, it fulfills the purpose.
02:26:29.000It justifies the continued war on terror.
02:26:32.000It justifies the continued crackdown on our liberties.
02:26:34.000They're going to milk the Muslim excuse as far as they can, as long as it is effective.
02:26:42.000And I cannot imagine the fear that good, honest Muslim Americans are feeling as a result of all this bashing of themselves and their religion.
02:26:51.000But you know, I also believe that everything that they're accusing the Islamists of, they themselves are guilty of.
02:26:58.000Infiltrators into every vector of influence in the United States government and including the media and publications for the last hundred years.
02:27:07.000And I think you know which group I'm talking about.
02:27:08.000Yeah, they're trying to engineer a clash of civilizations, they've talked about this, by demonizing the Muslim world.
02:27:23.000And they're in every level, in every place, in every organization, in every charity, and they have essentially taken over every vector of influence that we're exposed to as Americans at home.
02:27:36.000I just want to quote James Forrestal, who was mysteriously found dead.
02:27:42.000Hanging from a hospital sheet from his hospital room.
02:27:47.000He was the first Secretary of Defense and he said no group in this country should be permitted to influence our policy to the point it could endanger our national security.
02:27:57.000And I believe there is a group that has infiltrated, again, every vector of influence.
02:28:05.000And I think that group needs to be identified.
02:28:06.000And not to identify it is to do nothing but slash at the branches and not the root of the problem.
02:28:29.000The Watertown Police Department which showed up and arrested the second Chechen brother in that boat, his point was they were probably not supposed to be the responding department and they probably saved that young man's life because they were not the hit team.
02:28:43.000I revealed earlier on the show for the first time that the arresting officer in that case was actually a brother of mine in the Marine Corps.
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02:33:00.000You are listening to an Infowars.com Frontline Report.
02:33:17.000If you are receiving this transmission, you are the resistance.
02:33:47.000It's finally great to meet you in person.
02:33:49.000Yeah, I think I was here when I interviewed back in July or August, you guys were here, but I didn't get a chance to talk to you because you were live on air, and then I had to run out to the airport.
02:33:58.000But, you know, it's nice to meet you in person.
02:35:45.000And if you would like, I'll teach you a little more so you can actually learn how to teach a freaking class.
02:35:51.000Because since I got here, I've done nothing but read packets.
02:35:55.000So don't try and take credibility for teaching me, Jack.
02:36:00.000Now Holland, that was a very interesting clip, I thought so, because, you know, I had a chance, I was very fortunate, I got to go to one of the better schools within my city, so I can't say I can actually relate to his particular situation, but we see a lot of that with the No Child Left Behind and so on, and the guy says in the clip, all you do is you hand us packets, you don't teach us anything, you don't engage us in any way, you just give us, you know, the school gives you these packets and you give them to us.
02:36:21.000Yeah, that kid didn't mention No Child Left Behind, but that's exactly what that is.
02:36:24.000I've talked to Teachers are working now teaching kids and they say we're not allowed to teach.
02:36:36.000They're trying to change them, to train them to pass the test, not to think critically, to get any type of real skills that will help them in actual life.
02:36:44.000It's just read this packet and take the test.
02:36:46.000That's pretty much all they're trained to do.
02:36:47.000Well, that's the purpose of public education is not to create an enlightened, inquisitive, active citizenry who's going to be vigorous in defense of their rights.
02:36:57.000It is to create corporate cogs and political minions who will do what they're told.
02:37:02.000That is the purpose of public education.
02:37:03.000That was his founding in Prussia, in Germany.
02:37:06.000They openly talked about, we're going to have a stratified education system.
02:37:10.000One class for the peasants, one class for the managers, one class for the elite.
02:38:25.000And you want to take your advice from this guy.
02:38:27.000And people always bring up the question, like, why do you blame Obama or Eric Holder or whoever?
02:38:32.000I mean, when you look at a guy like Eric Holder, who is purposely withholding documents that could get to a deeper level of Fast and Furious, if nothing else, he's guilty of that.
02:38:52.000He is the one put in place to cover up everything and to make sure that any inquiries will be frustrated by his position as Attorney General.
02:39:01.000Exactly and it's just more we see the war on the homeschoolers war on People just want to educate the children themselves like because I heard some of the guys talking they have very young children now And I was asking one of the guys well when your child gets old enough to go to school What are you gonna?
02:39:15.000I guess I'm just got to send him out to school and just detox and when they get back home And it seems like a very laborious process You know you send your kid out there for you know eight hours a day or so then they come home like okay almost everything They told you was a lie You know, that's pretty much the situation.
02:39:28.000Well, 2 plus 2 does equal 4, but everything else, there's an agenda button.
02:39:32.000Yeah, well, that's the thing, is 2 plus 2 equals 4 may not be the same always, according to 1984.
02:39:36.000Yeah, so, I mean, that's the situation people are dealing with, and I know we have some calls, and we'll get to those in just one second.
02:39:42.000I definitely want to have people's opinions on this, on the homeschooling front, on the clip we just showed with the student, and just get everybody's opinions on these matters.
02:40:10.000That's pretty much what it is to keep the status quo as it is.
02:40:15.000And to effectuate control of the whole society.
02:40:17.000That is the purpose of public education, and he is learning the hard way.
02:40:21.000Yeah, and a lot of teachers get blamed, and I mean, just like the teacher we saw, from what I understand, that was the actual teacher, not some substitute teacher, was the person I was told.
02:40:30.000Yeah, I mean, it seemed like a substitute teacher.
02:40:32.000They come in, you know, okay, I'm teaching math today, I'm teaching something.
02:40:35.000Here's a packet, I'm gonna be on my laptop.
02:40:39.000But the teachers take a lot of heat for this, but a lot of people don't know that the teachers can't really actively engage.
02:40:44.000I mean, she didn't seem too engaged herself, but let's say if it was a teacher who was interested in the materials and the students' well-being, you know, they can't actively engage them on that level to really boost up the children.
02:40:56.000No, you're going to be rapidly frustrated if you're an earnest teacher like my friend.
02:40:58.000He joined out of good instincts to teach his community, to raise the next generation, and he's totally frustrated in his efforts and he's come to the conclusion that his job is to stratify society.
02:41:47.000Back to the No Child Left Behind part, I'm sorry I was jumping out of the way there.
02:41:54.000I was raped and molested for more than 10 years of my life and moved throughout foster homes, foster homes, a residential facility, to group home.
02:42:04.000During this no child left behind period when the law was put into place, I was actually in school.
02:42:11.000What this did for someone like me or anyone else who's been abused throughout their past They pretty much put you in what's called a behavior modification class.
02:42:22.000If you've had any sort of traumatizing events, they put you in what's called a behavior modification class.
02:42:28.000It's actually called behavior modification?
02:42:42.000While I was in this foster care agency, I went to another county and left the jurisdiction of the county which the behavior modification was housed in.
02:42:52.000When I went to this other county for foster care, they put me in a normal school.
02:42:55.000Did they keep you drugged up on Big Pharma psychotropic drugs?
02:43:06.000What you'll find often is that these CPS agencies are actually farming out these children, selling them as lab monkeys basically, to big pharma, testing drugs on them, testing the long-term results of heavy exposure to big pharma.
02:43:20.000So that is what they're doing, literally selling these children.
02:43:37.000When I went back to the jurisdiction and completed my foster care program, in the amount of time, the minimum amount of time that you could complete it in, I went back and showed them the progress that I had made.
02:44:52.000Because of the school but you know behavior problems at home or whatever the case may be and they come in they're doped up like so they have trouble paying attention they're acting out in class even the kids who may not may have not had such a adverse reaction to the medication there they kind of have this placebo effect you know they think if I take this drug or if I don't take this drug I'm just gonna act wild so they just come in and just act wild.
02:45:13.000I was talking to some young people, some friends of mine, and they were relating the fact that street drugs are really no longer even used in high schools.
02:45:53.000Jakari, I just want to let you know that about three months ago I was listening to InfoWars and I'm not too sure where I had heard about it yet.
02:45:59.000Was Alex ever on a radio show called Coast to Coast AM?
02:46:02.000Yes, he's been on there several times.
02:46:05.000So, I started to wake up in 2011 and pretty much fell back asleep with, you know, Pfitzer and Purdue University cramming their medication down my throat.
02:46:16.000I woke up about three months ago to you, Jakari, and I just want to say I appreciate everything you guys are doing.
02:46:22.000and all the info warriors out there that are getting the info out and just doing their part to wake this up.
02:47:14.000Well, to address your first thing, talking about did Obama get the standout order, we actually have a document made from the .cam guys.
02:47:22.000This is on InfoWars right now by Paul Joseph Watson.
02:47:25.000Congresswoman Obama gave Benghazi stand-down order.
02:47:28.000Now this is referencing a, you can take a look at that, Holland, I don't know if you had a chance to see it yet.
02:47:33.000This was referencing a congresswoman who was on a radio show and she was asked, you know, you've dealt in foreign relations and so forth.
02:47:41.000Who could give in order to have a stand down like this?
02:47:44.000And she said, the only person I know of is the president.
02:47:47.000Actually, her definitive statement was, she was asked, because you have been an ambassador, you have been overseas with similar responsibilities and similar missions.
02:47:55.000Who gives such an order to stand down?
02:48:35.000The thing I've found to be most effective, because we get a lot of calls, how do I wake up my cousin or my aunt or my dad or whoever, is I tell people, tell your friend or whoever to set their own line.
02:48:45.000When it hits this bad, I'll come back and tell you, and don't make an excuse for it, this is what you said, when it gets this bad you'll wake up, you'll write your congressman, you'll call out Obama or whatever the case may be.
02:48:56.000Yeah, just write down something ludicrous that you don't think will ever happen and give it about three months in a will, and then come to me and let's talk.
02:49:28.000The printing of the gun blows my mind.
02:49:31.000I mean, the fact that they can throw that in there.
02:49:34.000Well, they view it as a threat, obviously, because now that the ability to disseminate that information to print a gun anywhere you like is out there, now they're shutting it down because it is a direct assault on the long-term plan to affect the market for guns.
02:49:52.000And even more than that, when we had Cody Wilson, I'll let you finish, Collin, but I just want to throw this point out there.
02:49:55.000We had Cody Wilson on the show last night, and he said this isn't just an attack on guns, this is an attack on information.
02:50:01.000Because this information goes onto the internet, and they're trying to censor this internet site, so it's beyond guns.
02:50:06.000It's just something that they think they can target safely, or, you know, safely to an extent.
02:50:11.000Because you'll have the soccer moms and other people, I don't want people with printable guns, so that's how they start, and then it's going to be the next thing, then the next thing, then they don't want you making whatever in your house.
02:50:18.000But go ahead and make your point, Collin.
02:50:21.000Well, the thing about what I was thinking, and it's the first thing I thought about yesterday when I was listening to Alex, and he called in and said that they had shut him down.
02:50:30.000The first thing that popped into my head was, well, if he was to limit his site where it could not be accessed worldwide, if it could only be accessed inside the United States, then at that point it would no longer be an export.
02:50:45.000Well, I'm sure Cody's a pretty smart guy, actually he is, and I'm pretty sure he's going to outsmart the government bureaucrats on this one also.
02:50:51.000Yeah, I'm pretty sure he has something up his sleeve.
02:50:54.000I'm not exactly up on the legal aspects of it.
02:50:57.000Well, thank you, Eric, for calling in.
02:51:02.000You're listening to the Alex Jones Show, Eric.
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02:54:53.000I know we have callers, and I'll try to be brief.
02:54:55.000I was taking a criminal justice class back in Oklahoma right before, it was actually right before I got this job at Infowars, and I was in the class, about 40 people.
02:55:04.000Some of these people go in for advanced degrees and so on, and I engaged the professor, and I asked him about Oklahoma City bombing.
02:55:11.000And we started talking about, not just Timothy McVeigh, but the other people out at LOM City.
02:55:15.000And in a class of about 40 people, this is a night class, you know, a lot of older people, professionals.
02:55:20.000I'm probably one of the youngest people in the class.
02:55:26.000And he says, you know, concerning LOM City, he said, I think you and I are the only people in this room who know what you're talking about.
02:55:33.000And a room full of criminal justice majors.
02:55:35.000You know, because even people in Oklahoma don't know about this information I'm finding out.
02:55:39.000Yeah, Ellewing City, of course, is a neo-Nazi compound in eastern Oklahoma, which, by the way, was a federal honey trap.
02:55:45.000The founder and leader was making $400 a month.
02:55:48.000We have the paperwork, $400 a month, as an informant while he's running one of the largest neo-Nazi communities in the country.
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02:56:41.000So let's get to our callers before we leave.
02:56:58.000And I just wanted to say thank you to everyone Pushing the cause and everyone's effort for bringing down the criminal organization that we call the United States government.
02:57:12.000And along with all the great points today that everybody's taken in, I want this point kind of out there for people to just think about and indulge in.
02:57:22.000Just an example of mainstream media madness, I guess.
02:57:30.000A lot of things I've seen with the attacks on Alex Jones and Infowars on the Rachel Maddow Show.
02:57:35.000Oh yeah, they're attacking him in the mainstream and that's good because they can't ignore this operation.
02:57:39.000It seems like every day we're flipping through the mainstream channels and they're talking about Drudge and they're talking about Alex or even Dan Badandi sometimes, you know what I'm talking about.
02:57:46.000But at least people are getting our attention, but please go ahead, sir.
02:57:52.000I've noticed a big change in people as soon as Alex was on Piers Morgan and all that.
02:58:00.000Like people say, at first they deny you, they deny you it's even existing, and then they call you crazy, and they're just really nervous, and they are shutting down in a lot of ways of their thinking, I guess.
02:58:13.000We're seeing it played out, and history rhymes as well as repeats.
02:58:18.000Yeah, I just wanted to say that I've seen the attempts of the mainstream media to push the libertarian movement strictly on, like, the conservative side, which I agree is an arm of that, but I kind of feel like they're pushing InfoWars' Alex Jones to the right wing.