It's all true. They are listening to your phone calls, reading your e-mail, spying on your every move. You want answers? Well, so does Alex Jones on The Alex Jones Show. Today's guests: Jim Mars, John Rappaport, and Steve Stockman.
00:00:57.000They've all been caught, the tech companies, caught in their lies by the slides of the PRISM program, released now by Edward Snowden, who has just stepped forward yesterday to claim responsibility for leaking these slides to the Guardian and the Washington Post.
00:01:14.000And this is the subject of our show today.
00:01:17.000We're going to have three guests on today.
00:01:21.000We're going to have Jim Mars joining in with some historical analysis and context of this outrageous spy program.
00:01:29.000We're also going to have John Rappaport on in the second hour.
00:01:33.000He's going to be joining us to give us some more information about Snowden himself and the nature of the spy program and what else they might be watching and listening to that hasn't yet been reported.
00:01:44.000And in the third hour, we've got Texas Representative Steve Stockman on.
00:01:48.000He has been outraged by these confirmed reports of the NSA spying program, and he's been putting out some hilarious tweets calling out the Obama administration, which, if you recall, promised in 2007 that it was going to be the administration of transparency.
00:02:05.000Yeah, we weren't going to have government secrets anymore.
00:02:08.000The government was going to answer to the people.
00:02:13.000It's just lies within lies within lies.
00:02:17.000Now, if you're not familiar with this subject yet, let me just break it down for you very quickly.
00:02:24.000Ed Snowden, a 29-year-old senior intelligence analyst, a computer... you might call him a geek, but a genius geek who worked for the CIA, and then he worked for a contractor that was providing services to the NSA.
00:02:39.000He leaked details of the program to the Guardian and did an interview with Glenn Greenwald, an actual journalist.
00:02:50.000And the Guardian published this, and so did the Washington Post, over the last few days.
00:02:54.000And then yesterday, a video was distributed by the Guardian that is an interview between Glenn Greenwald and Ed Snowden, the whistleblower, that gave all the details Fascinating, amazing details.
00:03:07.000Check out these quotes of what you heard in the video which describes, quote, turnkey tyranny.
00:03:16.000He says, quote, we collect more digital communications from America than we do from the Russians.
00:03:22.000He says, any analyst at any time can target anyone, any selector, anywhere.
00:03:28.000I, sitting at my desk, certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone, from you or your accountant, to a federal judge, to even the president.
00:03:38.000These are the words of Edward Snowden, the whistleblower who is now hiding out in Hong Kong and knows that they're going to try to kill him.
00:03:49.000He is reportedly seeking asylum in Iceland, and we do have some breaking news for you on that coming up right after this break, where Iceland appears to be welcoming him to seek political asylum there.
00:04:02.000There's an article about that on InfoWars.com right now by Kurt Nemo.
00:04:12.000We're going to break it down for you of what they're scanning, what they're snooping into, Speaking of Snoop, we've got to get to some of Leno's quotes about the Obama administration.
00:04:25.000He says, yes, Snoop is back in the news.
00:04:45.000Great guests straight ahead, plus more analysis and breakdown of this exploding spy scandal from the NSA that exposes the lies and the deceptions of big government.
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00:08:12.000In the heart of the resistance, you're listening to The Alex Jones Show.
00:08:38.000Lots of coverage of that over the past few days and all of last week here at InfoWars Studios.
00:08:44.000But now we're covering the NSA spy scandal, the explosive revelations that have been emerging now throughout even the mainstream media, The Guardian, The Washington Post, and now hundreds, if not thousands, of mainstream media sources covering this explosive news, which revealed the top secret slides, the slideshow That revealed the government is spying on everything you do.
00:09:08.000Your phone calls, your emails, your login passwords, your online storage files, your photos, your social media networking posts.
00:09:15.000Everything is being spied on routinely, wholesale copied, archived, data mined, relationally I don't know the right word for it.
00:09:28.000The intelligence community is basically looking at your data every way they can to get as much information out of it so that they can nail you.
00:09:36.000They can nail you for things that are otherwise innocent.
00:09:40.000And I want to get your comments on this because there's a lot of outrage out there.
00:10:06.000We'll start taking your calls here in just a few minutes.
00:10:09.000Also coming up today on the show, we've got great guests lined up for you.
00:10:12.000Author and researcher Jim Mars will be joining us at the bottom of this hour.
00:10:17.000And in the next hour, we've got John Rappaport with additional analysis of just how damaging this is to the international surveillance and spy community.
00:10:26.000Well, damaging them, but freedom for us, because you see, it's exposing the lies and the hypocrisy of government, where Obama claimed it was all going to be fully transparent, we're not going to keep any secrets from you, we're going to be honest with you, we're going to work to protect your interests and your rights, blah, blah, blah.
00:10:47.000Another day, another scandal in the White House.
00:10:49.000In fact, there's even a scandal about the State Department that has broken today.
00:10:52.000It's up on DrudgeReport.com right now, if you want to check that out.
00:10:57.000We're not even going to cover that today because we're so focused on last week's scandals and the weekend's scandals and the NSA spying scandal.
00:11:39.000We're not listening to your phone calls or he said no one is listening to your phone calls.
00:11:43.000They are listening to your phone calls.
00:11:44.000They're recording all of your phone calls.
00:11:46.000They're parsing them with actual recognition software that can listen to the words and create a text transcript and then data mine the text transcript.
00:13:26.000And by now, more and more people are finally waking up and figuring that out.
00:13:30.000And finally, the last big lie before we go to the phone calls, Obama has been defending all of this, astoundingly, because he's the guy who said we were going to have full transparency and then all this happens under his watch and he didn't shut it down.
00:14:06.000What balance is that, where the government spies on everything that we do, but if we go out and videotape a police officer on a public street, we go to jail and get prosecuted for wiretapping?
00:14:19.000But the government can wiretap us 24-7 in complete violation of the Fourth Amendment?
00:15:24.000Now we're the ones that are on the attack, and they're the ones that are on the defensive.
00:15:28.000And, you know, what just astounds me is The audacity of these people to look at somebody sitting right across them in a courtroom or in a transcripted meeting and sit there and pull out documents and show them, like, no, here's the evidence.
00:16:35.000I know they're going to try to get as many calls as possible, so I'll be quick.
00:16:38.000I just want to say, I went to last year's Bilderberg, and as an American, I'm a little disappointed now to see the great protesters over there in the UK.
00:16:47.000When I saw the screens, it looked like they had a good couple thousand people.
00:18:25.000We need a social media network that guarantees it doesn't share information with the government.
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00:18:33.000Now, there may be these systems that exist.
00:18:35.000I've actually tried to look into some of them.
00:18:38.000The things I've found so far are a little clunky or a little difficult to use, so somebody needs to make an easy-to-use, streamlined system, and it would be a multi-billion dollar opportunity.
00:18:46.000The, you know, like the hushmail of social networking, something like that.
00:19:40.000Well, I wonder what they think now that all this is coming out, that basically everything that you and others in the alternative media have been saying, it's all true.
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00:24:20.000We're covering the explosive NSA spy scandal.
00:24:25.000It's been breaking in the news globally over the last, well, roughly 36 hours or so, especially since the whistleblower, Ed Snowden, stepped forward and claimed responsibility for breaking that information to the Guardian and the Washington Post.
00:24:40.000Now Snowden, it turns out, is a Ron Paul supporter.
00:24:44.000See, this is the Ron Paul revolution continuing.
00:24:47.000Gotta thank Ron Paul for inspiring people to recognize when terrible government abuses are taking place right under their nose.
00:24:56.000And Snowden did see what was happening and he sounded the alarm at great risk to himself.
00:25:02.000But let's go to his actual words as he describes what he saw happening as a senior intelligence analyst working essentially for the NSA.
00:25:10.000This is an interview conducted by Glenn Greenwald for The Guardian.
00:25:16.000Any analyst at any time can target anyone, any select or anywhere.
00:25:21.000Where those communications will be picked up depends on the range of the sensor networks and the authorities that that analyst is empowered with.
00:25:29.000Not all analysts have the ability to target everything.
00:25:32.000But I, sitting at my desk, certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone from you or your accountant to a federal judge to even the president if I had a personal email.
00:25:43.000Alright, so that's the key section right there that he had the authority to wiretap a federal judge.
00:25:49.000Or you, or anyone, even the president.
00:25:52.000You see, the power of this system, this is not about catching terrorists.
00:25:57.000This is a system that can be used to get dirt on anyone in America, because everybody's got secrets.
00:26:03.000So you can get dirt on a congressman, you can get dirt on a senator, you can get dirt on a CEO, you can find something that somebody is embarrassed about.
00:26:13.000Some chat, some emails, some files, some voicemails, some phone call.
00:26:18.000And you can use it against them in a blackmail operation where the NSA would essentially control all the power in the country.
00:27:04.000We got this string of grocery stores called Raley's.
00:27:09.000What happened was is that they had their database hacked at the corporate level.
00:27:14.000And what happens is that when you're a customer and you swipe your debit card, your ATM card, your credit card, all of that information is stored on The grocery stores, in this case, database.
00:27:57.000But there have been many, many cases of corporations having their databases hacked and credit cards stolen.
00:28:01.000You're right about that, and that is one thing that's bad, but what we're dealing with with this NSA spy scandal is companies that voluntarily turn over your details to the federal government without revealing it to their customers.
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00:33:34.000This is Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, filling in for Alex Jones today, who is on an airplane, actually getting back to the United States after protesting Bilderberg.
00:33:47.000We are going to go ahead and take some of your calls as Jim Mars joins us.
00:33:51.000I'd like to direct some of your questions to Jim.
00:33:53.000Now, Jim Mars is a legendary researcher, author, writer, a true, you might call him an old-school journalist in the fact that, gee, he checks his facts.
00:34:10.000He's got a number of fantastic books out there, including his most recent one, Our Occulted History, and what the subline on that is, Do the Global Elite Conceal Ancient Aliens?
00:34:20.000But it's actually about much more than ancient aliens.
00:34:30.000And Jim Mars joins us now on the Alex Jones Show to give us his analysis of what's happening with Snowden, the whistleblower, and the explosive NSA spy grid scandal that's now breaking big all over the world.
00:34:43.000Hey Mike, it's a pleasure to be with you.
00:34:45.000Yeah, I find it real interesting because I'm old enough to have gone through the Pentagon Papers scandal thing and I remember when that first broke and everybody's going, oh well there's nothing to that, but don't mind the man behind the curtain.
00:35:01.000And of course that resulted in the resignation of a president.
00:35:06.000We keep our fingers crossed that something similar might happen on this thing if we keep the story in front of us.
00:35:13.000And I think the key thing to remember is that Ed Snowden basically is not telling us anything That so many of us knew already.
00:35:22.000What he's doing is giving inside confirmation to the fact that your government spies on you, okay?
00:35:30.000And it has nothing to do with security, because the whole war on terrorism is basically a fraud anyway, because yes, there are foreign people who would like to harm the United States, but if left to their own devices, they probably couldn't afford to rent a camel to get over here.
00:35:48.000The people we have to worry about are the people who are leading and ordering about people like Ed Snowden.
00:35:58.000Well, Jim Snowden actually addresses some of what you said there.
00:36:01.000He says that when this first began, the FISA program did mostly focus on foreigners, you know, non-Americans.
00:36:09.000But he says increasingly it was turned, that entire security apparatus, the spy grid, was turned against Americans and is now used domestically.
00:36:21.000He says now that we gather more information, where's that actual quote, more information Well, and I'll tell you, if you really stop and look at it and back off and view the big picture, what's very, very disturbing to me is that when I was a young man, if you spoke about the Constitution and the Republic,
00:36:48.000and true liberty and freedom, you were considered a patriot, and you were considered a fine, upstanding American.
00:36:57.000Today, according to material that's been put out by the Obama administration and passed around to police departments and other law enforcement by the fusion centers, if you speak about the Constitution and if you support the freedom and liberty and if you speak about the Constitution and if you support the freedom and liberty and criticize the government, you're some I mean, where are we going, folks?
00:37:24.000Well, let's talk about that because you have written about JFK extensively.
00:37:29.000In fact, you've researched the JFK assassination more than anyone, so you can actually give us a historical context of this.
00:37:37.000Can you compare this today to the Nixon-Watergate scandal?
00:37:42.000Can you give us a sense of scale of how much bigger and how much more dangerous this NSA spy scandal is compared to what Nixon did?
00:37:51.000Well, yes, and again, because with Nixon and Watergate, you're just dealing with a corrupt president who was using the arm of the federal government to attack his political enemies.
00:38:04.000Today, they are attacking everybody, okay?
00:38:08.000And by the way, people should be cognizant of the fact that Watergate was a presidential assassination.
00:38:31.000It's like one of the members of the infamous Warren Commission was bemoaning the fact, he said, we have to show the world that the United States is not just another banana republic.
00:38:43.000Okay, where you can shoot the leader and take over.
00:39:05.000If Nixon was forced to resign over the Watergate scandal, which was minuscule compared to what we're seeing today, what should be done with Obama today if we are a country of law?
00:39:22.000Well, several things should have happened long before now.
00:39:25.000Number one, I know everybody rolls their eyes and goes, oh, this is just some politicking.
00:39:33.000But I think the evidence is certainly strong enough.
00:39:37.000Uh, to point out that he is not even constitutionally qualified to be president, that there should have been at some point a legitimate hearing.
00:39:45.000The Supreme Court has never ruled on his eligibility.
00:39:56.000And the main thing is, and the thing that I hope this might lead to, is impeachment proceedings.
00:40:04.000I mean, if we can impeach Bill Clinton because of a stain on a dress, surely we can impeach Obama over loss of liberty, loss of sovereignty, murdering people around the world, designating American citizens for assassination without trial Come on.
00:41:04.000Jim, do you remember about 2,000 years ago, there was a man who was completely unselfish and gave himself, just like Mr. Snowden, Oh yes, I do.
00:41:19.000In fact, there's been several people like that.
00:41:22.000And isn't it interesting how that the people who advocate tyranny and control and propagate fear and loathing, they seem to prosper and do well, but the people like the fellow you're talking about, plus about a dozen others I could name, who say, let's all get along, let's be peaceful, let's love our fellow man, and they tend to get assassinated or strung up in one way or another, don't they?
00:41:51.000Well, good question, Colin, but let me ask this, too.
00:41:54.000Why do we now have apologists for all of this, Jim?
00:41:57.000We've got these, you know, predictably, the Liberals and the Democrats are out there running around on the mainstream media saying, oh, who cares that they're reading all our email and listening to all our phone calls?
00:42:39.000Well, now, Rand Paul, we're going to play this video later, Rand Paul is now saying that he wants 10 million Americans to join in a class action lawsuit that he wants to take to the Supreme Court to challenge all of this.
00:42:53.000But let me ask you this, Jim, even if the Supreme Court ruled that this was illegal and unconstitutional, This NSA spy system isn't going to go down voluntarily.
00:43:02.000They may say, oh yeah, we agreed not to spy on Americans anymore.
00:43:05.000Yeah, wink, wink, cross your fingers behind your back.
00:43:17.000Well, for one thing we can do, I'll tell you one little trick I've been doing just to thwart the system, because as I said in the beginning, this is nothing new.
00:43:28.000It's new that somebody on the inside has come forward and says, yes, we're doing all this, as opposed to the denials by both government and the communications companies.
00:43:40.000Well, what we know they've been doing for a long time with their supercomputers is recording everything that goes, emails and telephone calls and everything else.
00:43:50.000And then it's run through a filter, see?
00:43:52.000And if you say certain words like Osama bin Laden or nuclear bomb or Iraq, Afghanistan, then it flags it and then people will start listening to find out what you're saying.
00:44:04.000So, what we do is we overload the system.
00:44:07.000Every time you call up your mom, you say, hey, mom, Osama bin Laden sends a nuclear bomb to see if you've had any drones come over.
00:44:16.000And you throw in every word you can think of before you start your conversation, and then you can overload them.
00:44:23.000You know, that's actually a really good strategy.
00:44:28.000Because if you think about it, this guy Snowden, who came forward, he's just one of probably thousands of analysts, many of which are probably in their 20s, who are sitting around at these desks Just analyzing and listening to people's phone calls that have been flagged by the system.
00:44:43.000If you can seed all of these phone calls with these kinds of words, and even in your emails and so on, then yeah, they're going to flag you, but they're going to waste all their time listening to nonsense.
00:44:55.000And of course, then there are those who say, well, you're going to harm our national security.
00:44:59.000Well, if you go back and actually look at the terrorist attacks that we've had in this country, beginning with 9-11, you're going to find that every one of them involves a CIA or FBI informant.
00:45:17.000In other words, it's all agents provocateur.
00:45:25.000They're the ones setting it up so they have an excuse to spy on us, and then they can... It's the oldest trick in the book.
00:45:31.000I mean, you go back to the Nazis who set fire to the Reichstag, to their parliament building, and then blamed it on communist terrorists, and began to eradicate the Communist Party in Germany.
00:45:45.000And they always claim they need more power, they need to listen to more people.
00:46:06.000It's nice to talk to both of you today.
00:46:09.000I'm happy to see that this information has finally been made public.
00:46:13.000Most of us in the know have probably I already assumed it was taking place, but the actual breadth and depth of the information that they have and can store is just, you know, crazy.
00:46:28.000You know, if we're not on our computer or at home or have a cell phone on us, are they going to make us wear some kind of microphone and camera?
00:46:35.000You know, we don't want to be away from technology that could possibly track and record everything we're saying.
00:47:04.000They might say, oh, you don't get Obamacare, you don't get healthcare, unless you wear all this surveillance equipment.
00:47:09.000Yeah, but go ahead with your question.
00:47:10.000I wouldn't wear anything anyway, guys, because if you think about it, every time you pull up at a stoplight or walk up to a corner, there's cameras, and I'm sure there's no big technical problem to put listening devices there.
00:47:23.000Well, they've got them in the lamppost.
00:47:24.000Remember that story from, I don't know, a year ago or something here on InfoWars?
00:47:28.000The streetlights are actually fitted with microphones in some places to listen to you.
00:47:33.000Oh, but wait, that's a conspiracy theory.
00:48:30.000They are building, the National Security Agency is in the process of completing a huge project A compound, $2 billion compound in Utah, that is one-third larger than the U.S. capital to store all forms of communication.
00:48:51.000So in other words, they're not only listening, they're storing it all the way.
00:48:55.000And they're going up to a yottabyte, okay?
00:49:04.000That's the most commonly used unit for computer hard disk storage.
00:49:08.000And a petabyte, that's a thousand petabytes equals an exabyte.
00:49:12.000And a thousand exabytes equals a zettabyte.
00:49:15.000And a thousand zettabytes equals a yottabyte.
00:49:18.000In other words, a yottabyte It holds, you know, one quadrillion gigabytes, and the average household computer holds about 200 gigabytes.
00:49:31.000They are now putting in the capacity to not only listen, but to store all of the information on everybody.
00:49:40.000Well yeah, and what do you think they're going to use this for?
00:49:42.000Are they going to use this to help uplift humanity?
00:49:46.000It's by selling it to commercial enterprises so they can pinpoint your marketing needs and pinpoint you for advertising.
00:49:57.000And then they'll figure out ways to use that for psychological warfare operations so that they can get you to believing in just about anything they want you to believe in.
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00:53:46.000Or was Jefferson correct when stating a central bank issuing the public currency is a greater menace to the liberties of the people than a standing army?
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00:55:17.000They told Alex years ago that he was crazy to say the NSA was listening to your phone calls and reading your emails.
00:55:23.000Turns out he was right all along, once again.
00:55:26.000And another person who was right is, of course, Jim Mars, who continues with us as a guest in this segment.
00:55:32.000Jim, Continuing with this story, what do you think is going to happen to the whistleblower, Ed Snowden?
00:55:42.000No, they're a little smarter than that.
00:55:44.000If he should suddenly get run over tomorrow, I think everybody in the whole world would go, aha!
00:55:51.000You know, so now that's not going to help their cause any.
00:55:54.000No, they'll come out with some expert, some psychiatrist, some psychologist, and they'll all start Give him that psycho babble and try to say, well, he's just delusional and he doesn't know what he's talking about.
00:56:07.000But the problem is he does know what he's talking about.
00:56:10.000And as I said before, in fact, as we said at the beginning of the show, he's basically only telling us what we already knew to be true.
00:56:19.000But you actually kind of stole some of my thunder there because the big point I was going to make is that everyone who's been pointed to and called a conspiracy theorist, and that's yourself, Mike Adams, that's Alex Jones, that's myself, you know, and a lot of that's Alex Jones, that's myself, you know, and a lot of others, turns out, gee, we're Okay.
00:56:42.000In fact, that's the only thing that keeps my sanity because sometimes I try to catch myself up and go, hey Mars, maybe you're just making stuff up.
00:56:51.000Maybe just looking at things the wrong way.
00:56:53.000Maybe you are just a conspiracy theorist.
00:56:56.000So I get real objective and I sit back and I'll look at all of the evidence and all of the facts and all the information I have and I go, no.
00:57:21.000Jim and Mike, you guys have in your archives a video from Bill Benny, the article of Adan Salazar, August 28, 2012.
00:57:33.000And when I called in, I mentioned that Bill Benny knows if he can connect the dots to Operation Thin Thread, Trailblazer, and now what he came out with, uh, Alex... Oh, and Stellar Wind.
00:58:23.000It's time for the people to start taking the power back to themselves and trying to turn the United States of America back into a freedom-loving republic.
00:58:33.000Well said, Jim, and we're going to go to break here shortly, but we're going to continue on the other side of that with five more minutes of Jim Mars and his comments on the breaking NSA scandal, and we'll be right back.
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01:01:33.000He went to Hong Kong because Hong Kong, although now part of China, does have a certain amount of autonomy.
01:01:40.000Of course, I remember visiting in Tibet, and they were told there they had some autonomy, and then as soon as they tried to exercise their autonomy, the Chinese swooped down and killed a bunch of them and frightened them out.
01:02:53.000What you do is you start listening to the Chinese sources to find out what's happening here, and the Chinese need to start listening to U.S. media to find out what's happening over there.
01:03:02.000It's an oddball thing, but I think you'll agree with me that at the top, the leadership is the same.
01:03:10.000They're all interested in total domination over the people and if you look at what Snowden gave as his justification for why he stepped forward, he was saying that he did not want to live in a country where this kind of surveillance is happening on a routine basis.
01:03:24.000He actually had some morals and some ethics.
01:03:31.000He saw what was going on and he decided to step forward even knowing, because he worked for the CIA, knowing that they would try to kill him.
01:03:58.000Going all the way back into the 80s, Ron Paul was the only man who shone any backbone, who spoke truth, who spoke to truth, who tried to tell us what's going on, and tried to tell us here's what you could do about it, and he's always ended up being, you know, tail last, and oh, just forget him, and never mind about him, and blah blah blah.
01:04:19.000Why do we continue to fall for the media hype of the worst people in the whole world.
01:04:25.000And when we finally get somebody that's got some sense and actually probably has the best interest of everyone at heart, and, of course, he's not very dynamic because he looks like and acts like just kind of an old country doctor.
01:04:41.000But, of course, wait a minute, he is just an old country doctor.
01:04:45.000The very type of people person that we need in a leadership position.
01:04:50.000We're out of time on this segment, but great insights and everybody, I want to encourage you to check out Jim Mars' website and also his book, Our Occulted History.
01:04:58.000Thank you, Jim, for joining us on the Alex Jones Show today.
01:05:01.000We'll continue right after this break.
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01:08:20.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:08:24.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:08:28.000All right, welcome to the second hour of the Alex Jones Show, the first hour of the This is Mike Adams, the health ranger, filling in for Alex.
01:08:40.000He'll be back on the show tomorrow with a lot to say about this explosive scandal, the NSA spy grid scandal.
01:09:22.000Now we're going to play, in just a second, we're going to play another segment from that interview.
01:09:26.000But first, I want to tell you that one of these leaked slides of the PRISM data collection system that Snowden leaked to the Guardian shows the actual dates at which these services were activated with connections to the government.
01:09:42.000So the government has direct server access to Microsoft and Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, Google and Gmail, and Google Drive also if you store your files in the cloud, Facebook, PalTalk, YouTube, Skype, AOL, and Apple.
01:09:57.000All of these are now sharing data with the federal government, sharing all of your data, your logins, your passwords, your emails, your text chats, your voice chats, your photos, your posts.
01:10:10.000Social media posts, everything that you've been doing lately that you post online, they know about it.
01:10:15.000They're even scanning your files if you use Google Drive.
01:10:18.000We have got to get to a point now across the board where we all stop using these companies' products and services.
01:10:46.000We replaced it with Disqus, a different comment engine.
01:10:50.000And what do you know, the IQ of the commenters went straight up.
01:10:55.000All of a sudden the comments were more intelligent!
01:10:58.000But we've all got to find ways to do this, and as a caller mentioned in the last hour, there is a huge business opportunity here for people who can create truly secure, non-betraying services that are chats and emails.
01:11:14.000I mean, there's start page email, I think it's called start mail, but it's, you know, you got to pay 50 bucks a year, I think is what it costs, but at least you get your privacy.
01:11:23.00050 bucks is a small price to pay to get your privacy.
01:11:27.000Now, before we go to this interview, continuing the interview with Snowden by Glenn Greenwald, let me just encourage you...
01:11:37.000That this broadcast is reader or listener-supported.
01:11:40.000Sorry, I used to say reader-supported because that's my website.
01:12:24.000Now let's continue with that interview with Snowden and see what he has to say about how anyone can be flagged as guilty under this system.
01:12:35.000Because even if you're not doing anything wrong, you're being watched and recorded, and the storage capability of these systems increases every year, consistently, by orders of magnitude, to where it's getting to the point you don't have to have done anything wrong.
01:12:51.000You simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody, even by a wrong call, and then they can use this system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you've ever made, every friend you've ever discussed something with, And attack you on that basis to sort of derive suspicion from an innocent life and paint anyone in the context of a wrongdoer.
01:13:25.000Because they spy on you and everyone, they can go back in time and they can scrutinize every decision you ever made, every conversation you ever had, things that you may have not even thought of.
01:13:35.000I mean, in the future, if they catch you speeding down the road, they could use this system to go back And catch you on a phone call talking about how much you love to drive fast and then, you know, worsen your speeding ticket.
01:13:47.000That's obviously a very silly, light example.
01:13:50.000They could use this to do many, many other things to threaten and intimidate you, shut down your speech or influence.
01:13:56.000Key people in key positions of power to change their decisions, like members of Congress.
01:14:01.000And by the way, quick correction, I just mentioned in the last segment that we dropped Facebook as our discussion engine.
01:14:08.000And when I say we, I mean Natural News.
01:14:14.000I don't have any control over the InfoWars discussion engines.
01:14:17.000I'm not even sure what InfoWars is using for their engine, but when I say we, I meant Natural News.
01:14:23.000It's kind of playing, you know, dual roles here.
01:14:25.000When I come in and host for Alex Jones, obviously I'm speaking on behalf of InfoWars, or at least as a guest host for InfoWars, but sometimes I sort of revert back to the we meaning national news.
01:14:36.000In any case, the bottom line is we all got to get away from these services because we know they're sharing all of this information with the government.
01:14:42.000So I know, because I've had conversations with Alex privately, I know that Alex is also concerned and looking for ways to eliminate any kind of connection with any of these services, you know, not even to use their services.
01:14:57.000But he's also right when he says that as long as Facebook has an audience, we've got to use the enemy's tools to spread the truth.
01:15:04.000So I'm sure that InfoWars and Natural News will both continue to post on Facebook But we encourage people to stop posting your personal details on there.
01:15:15.000You know, we can post news on there, that's not a problem.
01:15:18.000But if you go on there and post, you know, who's your friend and what you did last weekend and here's pictures of your family, that's the kind of information they can use against you.
01:15:25.000So don't use these services for anything that can ever be used against you.
01:15:46.000Iceland is considering offering NSA whistleblower asylum.
01:15:51.000So, this is a quote from Birgitta Jonsdottir.
01:15:55.000Sorry, I butcher these Nordic names, they're difficult.
01:15:59.000But she is the Executive Director of the International Modern Media Institute.
01:16:02.000And in this article posted on InfoWars right now by Kurt Nimmo, she states that she essentially welcomes Snowden to seek asylum in Iceland.
01:16:14.000And Snowden has said, the only thing I can do is sit here and hope the Hong Kong government does not deport me.
01:16:21.000Well, there can be a lot of pressure brought to bear on the Hong Kong government, believe me, even, if necessary, death threats from, you know, the right spooks.
01:16:40.000He's on the run, because he knows he's going to have to.
01:16:44.000Otherwise, he's going to be probably killed or tortured.
01:16:48.000And in any case, they're definitely going to try to assassinate his reputation and character.
01:16:53.000So watch out for retroactive false flags where they plant evidence into his past.
01:17:00.000See, this is the kind of thing that the NSA can do.
01:17:02.000They can fabricate some fictional history, and they can put it into his record, into his past, and then they can bring that out and say, ah, see, he was, you know, caught...
01:17:15.000Smoking crack or whatever back in, you know, 19 or 2005.
01:18:56.000Well, my guess is it probably started out with foreign terrorists, maybe back, you know, right after it got signed into law, but then it quickly shifted to focus on domestic.
01:19:31.000This is total awareness of everything going on in our country, 24-7.
01:19:37.000I would even state that they could probably predict the future with this stuff.
01:19:42.000Oh, well we already know Google has those algorithms to predict the future behavior of individuals based on their search behavior and their emails and things like that.
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01:23:45.000Or was Jefferson correct when stating a central bank issuing the public currency is a greater menace to the liberties of the people than a standing army?
01:24:35.000He went straight from, I don't know, you know, being a sophomore in high school to working for the CIA, probably doing some kind of crazy, you know, computer decryption algorithms or something.
01:24:46.000The problem is that the people there are just too smart.
01:24:48.000What we need is to put the TSA in charge of the NSA.
01:24:55.000You know, you'd go into the NSA analyst room and all the agents would be putting on latex gloves and saying, we don't want to catch something from people's email.
01:25:05.000Instead of surveilling your phone calls, you'd find they're all just surfing child porn sites because they are pedophiles after all.
01:26:27.000And like I was saying, they're poisoning the water, they're poisoning the food, they're spraying the skies, and these people expect me to disarm?
01:26:34.000I mean, this is laughable, are you kidding me?
01:26:38.000You're obviously coming after the American public, let's face it.
01:26:41.000A hundred plus million gun owning Americans are the only thing standing in the way of these people taking over the world.
01:26:48.000They've already disarmed the whole Western world.
01:27:36.000And I'm going to start doing what Jim Morris said.
01:27:38.000Every time I make a phone call or send an email from now on, it's just going to be nothing but keywords.
01:27:43.000No, you just make it into a song like, bomb-a-da-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb And I think they're going to use the data center they're building out in Utah to link this whole system up to all of the cameras that they're putting at every intersection, too.
01:28:09.000Pretty soon they're going to have a matrix.
01:28:10.000They're going to plug that data center into your spinal column.
01:28:47.000Yeah, I've been researching this sort of stuff since I was 17.
01:28:52.000I'm now 26, so I was awake quite early.
01:28:56.000I just want to make some points and give some advice.
01:29:00.000Go ahead, we've got about one minute before break, go ahead.
01:29:02.000Okay, but people haven't looked at this in an overall way, because over here, when internet-ready computers were first given to us, all the newspapers all said, to be frank, they all said, oh my god, it's got pornography on it, it's terrible, blah, blah, blah.
01:29:25.000Immediately, everyone started buying computers.
01:29:27.000And I think the whole idea of people buying a personal computer and then advertising it as having porn on it and things like that was an advert to get people to use this.
01:29:45.000Well, some interesting points there about invading the culture.
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01:33:06.000Crashing through the lies and disinformation, it's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:33:15.000Neil Cavuto went ballistic yesterday when interviewing people about the NSA spy scandal And ballistic in a good way, by the way.
01:33:33.000He looked a little bit like Alex Jones on Piers Morgan.
01:33:36.000Let's actually go to that clip and listen to Neil Cavuto lay into these guests for just carrying their party line nonsense instead of actually addressing the issue that we're all being spied on.
01:33:48.000...reporting and not protecting the First Amendment in this country, people are seriously in doubt about whether the White House is looking out for the country's best interests.
01:34:00.000Julian, I mean, I guess what I'm asking you is, what part of Custer don't you understand here, where you're surrounded and you see one incident after another that comes up?
01:34:09.000If you want to conflate and combine all these issues and then make these general statements, you can do that.
01:34:13.000crises invaded or potentially invaded institutions of all sorts doing pretty much the same thing.
01:34:55.000I am telling you there's a pattern, and you're just working your shoulders, but I guarantee you, Julian, if it were George Bush doing it, you would rightly be all over it.
01:35:59.000It's nice to see him actually get a little angry about that.
01:36:04.000Where do these liberal reporters get off on this idea, oh you can't conflate these issues?
01:36:10.000You know what they're saying is, you can't talk about more than one thing.
01:36:15.000I mean, oh wait a minute, there's a pattern here.
01:36:17.000There's the IRS, there's the DOJ, there's the NSA.
01:36:21.000There's all the lies that Obama told when he was running for office that turned out he's continuing the things he said he would stop, like the secret military prisons.
01:36:30.000And you can't, quote, conflate these issues.
01:36:32.000You can't talk about more things, more than one thing at a time.
01:36:40.000Good job Cavuto in this case, going after these guys.
01:36:43.000I actually appreciate your outrage on the air, Cavuto.
01:36:46.000Now to give us some more context on this, we're joined now by John Rappaport, a great analyst and researcher and writer.
01:36:53.000His website is nomorefakenews.com, the name says it all.
01:36:58.000John Rappaport joins us now by Skype for additional analysis.
01:37:01.000John, what did you think of Neil Cavuto going ballistic in a good way?
01:37:08.000Hey Mike, well I think we need more of that.
01:37:10.000I think we need more ballisticism from these guys who are finally getting fed up.
01:37:17.000I don't care whether they're on the left or the right or the middle or up or down.
01:37:21.000You know, it just gets to a point where even they have a tough time pretending that it's all very neutral and we're having a ridiculous conversation about these things.
01:37:33.000No, because it's all completely insane.
01:37:35.000I mean, the government wants to get into your pants, into your brain, into everything you've got, into your bank, and they'll do whatever it takes, and they are doing whatever it takes.
01:37:47.000And so this latest revelation about the NSA is just one more monster on top of all the other monsters, and it also indicts all the corporations, the tech companies, who have been complying and agreeing and lying and obfuscating about the fact that You know, they're all in it together.
01:38:08.000Well, yeah, that's why Cavuto said, quote, "Drop the liberal thing and just answer the freaking question.
01:38:24.000They want their guy in the White House to be on the winning team.
01:38:28.000And as Cavuto said, if Bush was in the White House and this was going on, the left would be screaming bloody murder over all the spy scandals.
01:38:48.000But yeah, you know, if Bush were in the White House now, the Republicans would be defending him.
01:38:55.000They would be saying, well, There's no thing that we must refrain from doing to protect the security of the United States, and if we have to put everybody under hypnotic drugs 24 hours a day all over the world to do it, let's do it, because we'll all be safe then and everybody will be at peace.
01:39:16.000These people just keep on switching sides and going back and forth because they're paid to do that.
01:39:22.000I mean, that's why they send their kids to college.
01:39:25.000That's how they can afford their house payments.
01:39:27.000And let's remember how this all began.
01:39:30.000Let's go back to the so-called terror attacks of 9-11.
01:39:34.000And then the outrage in the Bush era, pushing of the Patriot Act, and how all the Republicans said, yeah, let's give up our rights!
01:39:43.000And now those same Republicans are screaming, well, Obama's taking our rights!
01:40:13.000And we have to support the troops and this and that and the other thing.
01:40:17.000You know, When people can't get far enough back to see what's actually going on, they literally go insane.
01:40:26.000Because they're right in the middle of all this crossfire and they just begin to react negatively to everything that their training tells them they have to react to.
01:40:46.000And we had a caller previously who brought up some very good points saying, hey, maybe that key decision about Obamacare by a Supreme Court justice who changed his mind last minute, maybe they got his private emails and threatened him with something.
01:40:59.000You know, maybe Petraeus was threatened, or they got his emails and then were able to expose his affair and kick him out of power.
01:41:07.000I mean, they've probably been using this all along to get certain people out of the way and get other people to change their decisions.
01:41:17.000And another thing that the public is very confused about, you know, you don't have to say that Petraeus is a saint.
01:41:26.000In order to say, at the same time, that he was railroaded and discredited because he was saying things that the administration didn't want him to say.
01:41:42.000You know, because people get all in a tizzy about that.
01:41:45.000Well, so you're defending Petraeus and you're saying that he's the most... No!
01:41:50.000Just saying that this is how they take people down.
01:41:53.000And by the way, since you mentioned Obamacare, Mike, All of this spying and surveilling and record keeping and so forth, let us not forget.
01:42:06.000That your medical records are going to be added into this matrix.
01:42:11.000Every single thing that happens in the doctor's office is all going to be part of your profile that is assembled by the NSA and the FBI and the CIA and every other agency.
01:42:23.000DHS is working on this to complete a whole picture of you.
01:42:29.000And those medical records will be right in there.
01:42:31.000The same government that's spying on your email, grabbing your logins and passwords, and listening to your phone calls, is now going to know about your erectile dysfunction problem.
01:42:58.000Let's have a little conversation because you've been doing some things here as a congressman that we think you ought to, you know, have second thoughts about.
01:43:07.000Yeah, like voting for an extension of Obamacare.
01:43:09.000You know, come January 1, believe me, these state exchanges are going to just implode with technical problems.
01:43:17.000But let's go to some phone calls, John.
01:43:19.000Let's bring in some callers because we've had such great calls today.
01:43:22.000We've got a caller on the line, Linda from Boston.
01:43:24.000The note I have here is that it's bigger than the NSA.
01:43:27.000So Linda from Boston, you're on the air with John Rappaport.
01:43:53.000Well, I first wanted to thank Alex and the show for years ago, about 10 years ago he used to end the show with the exhortation, go out and fight the New World Order.
01:44:14.000And that's kind of what I think our next step is as citizens is, hey, this machinery has gotten really large.
01:44:21.000Somewhere this gear work of tyranny is spinning near you, and I firmly believe that somewhere you have the spanner in your hand to stick it in.
01:44:31.000And we just all have to do our little part in whichever way we can to just get in the way.
01:45:10.000So what would happen if 50,000 people started taking themselves and saying, you know, we are loyal patriotic Americans and we believe that we should be spied on.
01:45:20.000In fact, we don't think you're doing a good enough job.
01:45:23.000So we want to fill up your email boxes with public information, with videos of us living our lives every day.
01:45:30.000And you can look at all of it, you see.
01:45:34.000And all of a sudden this gets to be a story.
01:46:22.000Just like, well, you can't walk into the White House and talk to Obama, but you can get to the White House through various email addresses and so forth.
01:46:32.000Or if you fail at that, you post it up on YouTube.
01:47:33.000Representative Steve Stockman, a congressman from Texas, he's going to be joining us, by the way, in the next hour.
01:47:38.000He's got some hilarious tweets that he put out over the weekend on the spy scandal, and one of his tweets was as follows, and I want your comments on this, John, and then we'll probably take some more calls.
01:47:49.000Quote, at this point, the only way to prevent people from hearing your conversations is to have them on MSNBC.
01:48:20.000Good day to you both, for that matter.
01:48:25.000As much as there is a surveillance grid and cameras, sensors this way, that way, of everyone's backside and so forth at nauseam, there's one that I have not heard anybody address that I have taken note of for months.
01:48:41.000This occurs at an intersection either as you're stopping at a red light or even after you pass the intersection, they are placed in the pavement after an intersection.
01:48:53.000If anyone happens to pay attention and look at these lines that are cut into the pavement, on the West Coast, they look like circles.
01:49:02.000On the East Coast, they look like squares or rectangles or whatever that are actually cut into the pavement.
01:49:08.000And the only thing I can surmise is that they are wires or magnetic strips of some sort that actually can scan your vehicle when you pass over it.
01:49:33.000What if every car is built with an RFID system already built into it?
01:49:37.000You know, they're trying to put black boxes into the cars, but what if the caller's right?
01:49:41.000Maybe they have an RFID transponder, and every time you drive over one of these intersections, you know, the location of your car gets uploaded to the NSA, which they cross-reference with your phone calls and everything else.
01:49:53.000I mean, it's just another layer of tracking.
01:49:58.000The whole point of this is that they want to and they're getting closer and closer to be able to track everybody all the time in real time, wherever they are, whatever they do, whatever they say, wherever they go.
01:50:21.000That's what they've always been after.
01:50:23.000And these monsters that are committing crimes every day that run these super spy networks, you know, they are the people who are the technicians for You know, we call it what you will, global management, the police state, and so on.
01:50:40.000And all of the spinoffs that we've been hearing, you know, for example... John, we're going to go to break here, but we'll continue with you on the other side of that break, and thank you for that caller.
01:51:04.000We'll be right back in just a few minutes.
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01:54:05.000I love how when Bush was in office, all these Democrats and liberals were screaming about all these Democrats and liberals were screaming about Bush's terrible police state.
01:54:34.000In fact, let's nominate a man for president who's a constitutional scholar named Obama.
01:54:40.000And then when Obama gets into office, all these same people Who are so intellectually just dishonest, betraying every principle, as long as their guy is in office.
01:54:52.000All these same liberals and Democrats say, what?
01:55:18.000You know, if they only have a choice between two jackasses, when either go to a third party, if there's somebody really who stands for freedom, or just opt out completely.
01:55:34.000Because, you know, face it, somebody's going to the polls to put these criminal morons in office every couple of years, four years, six years, depending on which position they hold.
01:55:46.000And they perform the same way year after year, decade after decade.
01:55:52.000And yet people still allow these people to, you know, run Washington, D.C. to the degree that they do.
01:56:03.000Yeah, I mean, how stupid, how completely stupid.
01:56:07.000So one possible example of hope, real hope for real change, not the fake hope and change that we've been offered is. - Yeah.
01:56:17.000A real example is Rand Paul, and we're going to cut to a video of him describing what he wants to do to challenge this NSA spy grid all the way up to the Supreme Court.
01:56:27.000Let's roll a couple of minutes of that.
01:56:30.000Well, you know, they're looking at a billion phone calls a day, is what I read in the press, and that doesn't sound to me like a modest invasion of privacy.
01:56:39.000It sounds like an extraordinary invasion of privacy.
01:56:42.000The Fourth Amendment says that you have to look at, and you can ask for a warrant for a specific to a person place in the items.
01:56:52.000This is what we objected to and what our founding fathers partly fought the revolution over is they did not want generalized warrants where you could go from house to house with soldiers looking for things or now from computer to computer to phone to phone without specifying who you're targeting.
01:57:08.000Well, let's look at the effects of the internet surveillance program as opposed to the phone surveillance program in 2009.
01:57:24.000Sure, I mean, if we've got people like him who are willing to press this issue and not just, you know, make a little press conference out of it.
01:57:34.000And to actually force this up to higher levels, why not?
01:57:40.000But I'm afraid, I'm not confident at all that the Supreme Court would do anything about it.
01:57:45.000Well, and plus, the Supreme Court justices may all be compromised by the NSA.
01:58:04.000They're not going to go over to the NSA and say, OK, guys, you've got here enough storage for Six hundred quadrillion pieces of information.
01:58:16.000So we're going to limit you down to five million.
01:58:19.000Those are the only legal ones that you can have.
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02:02:24.000And maybe they're able to track things on the internet and so forth.
02:02:29.000But now we're talking about a colossus made up of these huge tech companies.
02:02:37.000Google and AOL and, you know, all the way down the line, Microsoft, Apple, et cetera, all the way.
02:02:43.000And NSA working together as one monster deciding What to do about what they know about you, and they're collecting everything in their capability of collecting it.
02:02:57.000And that's not only illegal, it's not only criminal, it's not only like a gigantic crime family, which it is, but it's all about freedom.
02:03:08.000And that's the thing to never give up on, to understand what your freedom means, what it is, and to resist any and all efforts to take it away from you.
02:03:19.000From a tactical standpoint, it's very tricky to not allow the NSA to spy on you because they're into everything now.
02:03:26.000All these tech giants have backed doors directly into the government.
02:03:30.000They're copying and data mining everything.
02:03:33.000Your text, your voicemails, your Skype messages, your Facebook posts.
02:03:37.000How do you do that and still stay connected to our online world?
02:03:52.000All I can say, Mike, is that for a number of years now, there have been who knows how many thousands or even millions of people on the Internet who decided they don't care.
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02:09:11.000Now, some of the comments that have been passed around the internet over the weekend about this are quite funny, even though this is a tragedy against the Fourth Amendment and the Bill of Rights.
02:09:22.000There's a lot of comedy out there, and in fact some of the best comedy came from Texas Representative Steve Stockman, who was tweeting over the weekend some really fantastic tweets.
02:09:32.000I'll share a couple of them with you, and then he joins us on the show.
02:09:35.000He said, quote, someone should tell Obama 1984 wasn't intended to be an instruction manual.
02:09:42.000And he said, this is my favorite one, at this point the only way to prevent people from hearing your conversations is to have them on MSNBC.
02:09:51.000Yeah, I'm sure they will appreciate that one, but it's funny.
02:09:54.000So joining us now from Texas District No.
02:09:57.00036, I believe, is Representative Steve Stockman.
02:10:03.000One of the things we try to do is always have fun, and making fun of liberals, you can't have any more fun than that.
02:10:10.000I know, you have to laugh at this because it's so insane.
02:10:13.000What were your initial thoughts when you became aware of these astonishing disclosures?
02:10:19.000Well, I mean, it follows with Obama's intent to focus on the citizens as the criminal, and the terrorists are not to be investigated.
02:10:28.000You had the Russians send us a whole profile of what was potential terrorists, and instead And also, he subscribed to Terrorist Magazine, and he subscribed and posted terrorist websites, but that didn't rise to the level of interest that the Tea Party and average citizens have become the target.
02:10:55.000We do live in a world where good is bad and bad is good, and we have targeted American citizens over that of terrorists.
02:11:05.000It's extraordinary how this apparatus has now been turned against the people, and I think you would agree with me on this, that this is being done outside of the permission of Congress.
02:11:17.000I mean, Congress has been lied to by the NSA about this.
02:11:21.000Would you agree with that characterization, and what are your thoughts?
02:11:24.000Well, there was an actual question, which they showed in a clip of it, where they're asking the head of NSA if there was a collection, I think it was a congressman, it may have been Weidman, Who asked a direct question, are you collecting massive amounts of data on each citizen?
02:11:42.000And the retort back from him was no, we're not.
02:11:45.000So, yeah, if they claim now that that was a mis... I think Dianne Feinstein said that it was just a misunderstanding of the question, which can be...
02:11:58.000Well, I guess we could always say it's a misunderstanding.
02:12:00.000But what about the idea that this NSA system, it's almost omniscient.
02:12:04.000I mean, they can keep tabs on anybody, including federal judges, including people like you, including your colleagues in the House, including Senators.
02:12:26.000If you think about it, these are the same guys now that want to register your guns, and they can't keep this kind of data private, yet they're claiming they can keep it private.
02:12:37.000If you register your guns, they're not going to let the data out.
02:12:40.000But clearly, we have a situation in which they don't have control.
02:13:14.000I mean, I know it's only Monday and this is going to take a while to sink in, but what's the word from your staff so far on any kind of anger, outburst about this?
02:13:43.000But what I don't understand is people outside of your listeners, you interview them or talk to them, it's puzzling to me at what degree they're willing to give up their individual freedoms for the perception of security.
02:13:56.000And we both know that you give up your individual liberties, you soon have neither.
02:14:21.000There are many other liberty lovers in Texas.
02:14:24.000Is Texas really sort of the headquarters of liberty for America now?
02:14:29.000Well, it's becoming a last fashion, apparently.
02:14:32.000New Hampshire used to be that way, but it seems like everybody from Massachusetts moved there, and they loved the freedom in New Hampshire, so they immediately voted in people that hated freedom, so it's kind of odd.
02:14:42.000But, you know, in my district alone, we've had, since my election in November, we've had 30,000 new people come in here because of the ability to get jobs and to operate without There's still too much government intrusion, but at least in Texas we have.
02:15:01.000As you know, I guess you're in Austin, but you know we have less intrusion.
02:15:07.000Although, the Obama administration came down here to praise the jobs, but immediately is implementing more restrictions on those companies that are trying to create jobs.
02:15:18.000I think when Obama comes to Texas, he should stop talking and start listening, because Texas has got the economy figured out, it's got liberty figured out, at least a lot better than the feds.
02:15:29.000Yeah, I was laughing at Olivia on NPR the other day.
02:15:33.000She was commenting, she was saying, these extreme right states, such as Texas, have unfortunately got lucky, and now their economy is doing better.
02:15:45.000Well, if you're listening... It has nothing to do with the extreme, quote unquote, extreme right policies, but it had to do with luck.
02:15:50.000But see, that's just a language trick.
02:15:52.000To call freedom, to call liberty, to call the Constitution extreme?
02:15:56.000You know, that's a classic liberal leftist trick that they play on NPR as they're trying to hypnotize you, by the way.
02:16:24.000How do you come up with these tweets like this one?
02:16:27.000The Democrats defending IRS abuses and illegal spying programs are the same one who insists they would never abuse a gun registry database.
02:16:35.000Yeah, well, I think it's, you know, our friends at the, that do the cartoon, I just went blank, what's the one that they did?
02:16:46.000They attack liberals and they asked us, why do you attack liberals instead of conservatives?
02:16:51.000I said, well, conservatives are used to being attacked, but if you make fun of a liberal, they just go nuts.
02:16:58.000A bumper sticker, which we've actually had during the campaign, it said if babies had guns it wouldn't be aborted.
02:17:08.000So anything we can do to strike the humor, and really their positions are quite humorous if you look at their ideology, it's easy to make fun of.
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02:24:04.000All right, we're going to return to phone calls here in just a minute on the Alex Jones Show.
02:24:19.000This is Mike Adams filling in for Alex today.
02:24:22.000Thank you for all your very insightful phone calls today so far.
02:24:26.000And the number to call in if you'd like to call in is 1-800-259-9231.
02:24:36.000And I got to say, what I am really struck by in all of this is just how insane the media is to say, don't listen to Alex Jones.
02:24:47.000I mean, Alex Jones has been right on so many things for so long, and he's been called a conspiracy theorist for so long on all the things that are now coming out and verified as true, that frankly, the mainstream media owes Alex Jones a massive apology.
02:25:08.000So all of the reporters out there in the mainstream media who have made fun of Alex, and they called him a conspiracy theory, and they called him a kook.
02:25:17.000Or you know, whatever terms they use that are derogatory, they need to apologize now.
02:27:06.000I believe it was Benjamin Franklin that told us that a nation of well-informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved.
02:27:16.000It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins.
02:27:20.000I've had a website since about 1995 where I've taught people exactly what their rights are and what are the meanings of some of the words that we Throw around so carelessly like liberty, freedom, and justice.
02:27:35.000I've spent probably the last 20 years trying to define these words for myself.
02:27:43.000Uh, the website, you can find it on Google, just, or, uh, start page, just type in jailhouse lawyer and the word angel fire.
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02:28:04.000Many people aren't aware that at the turn of the century, most people were either their own lawyer or they got somebody that could talk for them in court.
02:28:14.000That was before the American Bar Association got a monopoly on who can practice law in the courts.
02:28:34.000Freedom, like other rights that were granted to us, and not by the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, We're granted to us by God, previous to government, and those are the rights that we need to learn and cherish, because rights are property.
02:28:50.000When they steal your rights, they're stealing your property.
02:28:54.000This is the mindset that our founding fathers had, that rights are property.
02:29:00.000But the Supreme Court of the United States has told us in one of its nefarious decisions that any rights not timely demanded in the courts are deemed to be waived.
02:29:13.000So what I tell people is if you're not in court demanding your rights, you're waiving your rights.
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02:35:03.000Now, we're going to go, before we go back to your phone calls, and thank you for holding, whoa, Ship, Linda, Mike, Tom, and others, we're going to go to a video from Fox News featuring Judge Napolitano and his comments on why the Fourth Amendment actually matters.
02:35:36.000just relax everybody see that the first though let's take this new matter to the judge Fox News Senior Judicial Analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano.
02:35:47.000Harry Reid says, we should just calm down, Judge.
02:35:58.000See, the laws are really screwy here, Shep.
02:36:01.000The laws allow the executive branch, the President and his agents, to tell select members of Congress when they are doing things like that, but prohibits those members of Congress from telling the other members of Congress or the American people.
02:36:14.000Just because Harry Reid knew about this for seven years and it's been going on for seven years, does not mean that it is constitutionally permissible.
02:36:22.000This is a phishing expedition on the grandest scale we've ever seen in American history.
02:36:27.000They are looking for a select group of people and in order to find that select group of people, the Constitution says, present some evidence against them to a judge and you'll get a search warrant for their phones.
02:36:37.000Rather than doing that, they got a search warrant for a hundred and thirteen million phones.
02:37:35.000Probably never ends unless we somehow stand up to it.
02:37:38.000And if we don't, they're going to end up reading our thoughts, okay?
02:37:42.000And throwing us in jail for thought crimes.
02:37:45.000And you know all of us here at InfoWars are of course guilty of thought crimes because we actually can think.
02:37:52.000So that right there makes you a threat, a terrorist for having skeptical thoughts about the fake news that we're all being told by the mainstream media.
02:38:04.000Let's go to some more calls because we're getting such great calls today.
02:38:07.000Let's see if we can get a crazy call here at some point.
02:38:47.000Um, I live here in San Antonio, you know, and, um, I have a bunch of friends that are, you know, ex-military and a bunch of the alphabet gangs and stuff.
02:38:56.000And they have, you know, kind of given me info here and there.
02:39:00.000Basically, there are, you know, hubs here in San Antonio that are spy stations, dude.
02:39:06.000Like, they listen to your calls, they do everything.
02:39:25.000So what do your friends say they want to do about it?
02:39:28.000Are they just going to sit back and let it, let the NSA roll over them or what?
02:39:32.000Well, it's not like, I mean, I'm one of a few, you know, my brother-in-law is really big into it, like feels the same way I do, but you know, it's kind of hard to push and not push, just like open the ears to people that, you know, don't want to hear it.
02:39:47.000You know, you kind of, kind of gradually ease them into it.
02:39:52.000Like, at first you tell them their emails are being read, and then... You know, and it's frustrating because you want somebody to be like, you know, take the bull by the horns, you know, and they are just so naive and weak to say, you know, well, whatever, this is the way it is.
02:40:07.000And I'm like, dude, you can't be like that, man.
02:40:11.000You've got to really get out there and...
02:40:13.000And say, you know what, enough is enough, dude.
02:40:16.000And they're like, well, where do I start?
02:40:34.000It's the naivety and this, it can't happen to us, this exceptionalism.
02:40:41.000You know, that, oh, you know, it won't happen to us here, which is a crock and it's a shame that people don't see that, you know, it can happen anywhere.
02:40:50.000It's not just saying, oh, this could happen somewhere else or a foreign country.
02:40:58.000so special we are not we are humans and people just as everywhere else well in fact it's so bad that the whistleblower fled to china to tell the truth about america i mean it's like it's like fleeing to north korea and saying kim jong-un you know give me freedom it's just that's how bad it's gotten in america it's just crazy and it's like where where do they where do we cross that line to
02:41:27.000Like Adam Kokesh and stuff, I was totally for that, but at the same time, it's like, man, that's a thin blue line to where you gotta say, man, what could they stage something like that, even though A peaceful protest should be that of the people.
02:41:41.000And it's like we have gotten so far away from our forefathers that they are rolling in their graves.
02:41:47.000Well, it's clear this is never going to be stopped by a bunch of peaceful protests.
02:41:50.000I mean, I'm not calling for violence, but peaceful protests are going to go nowhere because they're just going to keep lying to us, basically.
02:41:58.000And it's like, if a peaceful protest isn't enough, and these little You know, 10 bits of information we're getting that aren't awaking everybody.
02:42:11.000Yeah, it's going to have to be like a mass roundup of people, you know, throwing them into the incinerators and then, you know, maybe some people wake up.
02:42:30.000You know, I was just kind of looking at some of the stuff going on in California and it kind of seems kind of odd how some of these people get away with walking around with what they say that they're carrying.
02:43:37.000Well, I got, like, boots and a little backpack, and then they had, like, little training grenades, you know, and they had holes in the bottom.
02:43:46.000Well, I actually brought it to school because we used to play war.
02:43:50.000And I threw it, like, into, like, a crowd of kids were playing, and I knew it was fake then, you know.
02:44:42.000And, you know, just, you know, I just wanted to say, you know, that the times have changed so much now and I'm in my early thirties and I'm looking at going, wow, I feel like I'm turning into an old man because just stuff is changing so fast and the way kids are growing up and being You're right, Mike.
02:44:59.000And now these kids are growing up under the regime of the NSA.
02:45:01.000and the way they've got to think and the things they can and can't do.
02:45:11.000And now these kids are growing up under the regime of the NSA.
02:45:15.000So as these kids grow up, everything is being monitored.
02:45:18.000Can you imagine when those kids grow up and become, let's say, congressmen or senators, all the stuff they did as kids being used against them by the NSA?
02:47:05.000I thought a lot of things got out there, and a lot of things came out, and I'm just happy things are progressing in the right direction.
02:47:14.000Well, isn't it interesting, though, Josh, that five years ago the media pretended that Alex Jones was delusional when he was reporting about the Ildebergers, and now they say, oh, it's all real, but it doesn't matter, it's just a bunch of people meeting about nothing really important.
02:47:29.000Yeah, they're just talking about, uh...
02:47:31.000You know, how to improve their businesses.
02:48:04.000I'm walking over the window, I'm opening my window, I'm sticking my head out the window, and I'm saying, I'M MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT ANYMORE!
02:49:23.000It's about how we, the people, Are standing up against this charity and exposing the charity and telling the truth even in the face of just incredible lies and deceptions by the mainstream media.
02:49:34.000And we won't shut up and we won't put up with it and we won't sit down and behave.
02:49:40.000We're going to keep speaking out and fighting back against these injustices.
02:49:43.000We're going to keep doing it right here from Infowars.com and all of the alternative media which is the new mainstream media.
02:50:12.000First off, not only does this snooping stifle and eviscerate the Fourth Amendment, but it clearly stifles the First Amendment because you have people of all kinds, of all their different types of digital communications, where they're going to feel like they can't say anything.
02:50:27.000as if they probably shouldn't have already, moving forward because, well, personal and otherwise, it's going to be recorded to be used against them as blackmail a la J. Edgar Hoover for the next decade.
02:50:39.000Secondly, I have not heard anyone talk about the fact that this massive amount of business espionage that's going to be going on here where, you know, we're talking about Iran-Contra on steroids.
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02:55:38.000You get your grocery cards, they know what you're buying.
02:55:41.000They'll get somebody into that company and I'm afraid to buy bottled water anyway, I have to.
02:55:46.000Wait a minute, I just want to clarify.
02:55:48.000So you're saying, I mean they are swabbing your DNA at police stops and checkpoints now, and they are monitoring your grocery purchases with your loyalty cards, you're right.
02:55:56.000And I've had my blood test, I mean my urine test just taken, and a week later there was a door slam and I thought I was smelling something and things went wrong with me for a while.
02:56:08.000All these chemicals and concentrations that can be used.
02:56:10.000Well, I don't quite track everything you're saying, but I think you're on to something.
02:56:15.000A criminal is a biological corrupt, and if you're in a holy place like the land of Jesus, and they pour something in your urine and corrupt you, they can run stuff.
02:56:27.000I'm curious what's in your urine test.
02:56:29.000Let's go to the next caller, Mike in Wyoming.
02:56:31.000Sorry, it just helps to have your thoughts organized.
02:56:39.000I was watching Fox News as I was getting ready for work this morning and I heard Congressman Kevin McCarthy say some pretty nasty things about Oh, the whistleblower.
02:56:55.000Snowden, thank you, who went out to Hong Kong and then Stephen King was quoted also as saying that no country should give sanctuary to these guys.
02:57:04.000And I would encourage people to call their offices, that is McCarthy and King.
02:57:25.000This man should know terrorism when he sees it.
02:57:27.000Call their offices and encourage them to impeach Obama rather than trying to discourage whistleblowers.
02:57:35.000One other thing, you were talking about the NSA and how health information is not going to be safe anymore.
02:57:43.000The AIG, the American Insurance Group, which controls the majority of medical insurance in this country until, you know, until it was bought out basically by the government.
02:57:58.000I mean, they were run by Morris Greenberg, who was closely attached to the CIA, so I have no doubt that the CIA had access to medical records for many years during Greenberg's tenure there.
02:58:11.000Well, it's pretty clear that we are now living under a spy-ocracy, maybe combined with an idiocracy, but definitely a spy-ocracy component.
02:58:20.000Well, anyway, I thank you for your call.