In this episode, Alex Jones takes you on a trip down memory lane to the St. Elizabeth Hospital for the Insane, a former mental hospital that was used as a torture facility by the U.S. government. He talks about the history of MK-Ultra, and how the government is using it to create a new government structure called the Ministry of Truth.
00:00:13.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:21.000Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us.
00:00:36.000It is Thursday, the 25th day of July 2013.
00:00:41.000With little argument, the House of Representatives has limited U.S.
00:00:46.000military involvement in Syria and Egypt, but at the same time actually authorized it.
00:00:52.000It's like we're limiting torture to authorize it in certain cases.
00:00:58.000We're limiting NSA snooping to authorize NSA snooping.
00:01:04.000So we're going to be breaking some of that down.
00:01:05.000The House rejects bid to curb spy agency data collection.
00:01:09.000So that's Congress who tried to turn a blind eye to this for a while, didn't want to be told about it even though they'd already authorized it decades ago.
00:01:18.000They knew it was unconstitutional so they didn't want to have a public debate about it.
00:01:22.000Well now that's been forced and they have voted In the House, we've got a list of the bipartisan traders to allow the private-controlled NSA, that literally works for foreign offshore banks, to use this data in economic sabotage against America as part of a corporate takeover via Agenda 21.
00:01:43.000So we're going to be going over all of that.
00:01:47.000And also a Bloomberg Businessweek article, Homeland Security Future Home, a former mental hospital.
00:01:53.000And as soon as I saw the name of this this morning, I went and searched its name and MKUltra and its name and major abuses and dungeons and huge mind control facilities.
00:04:07.000Search Jolly and West's name, Dr. Ewing Cameron's name, and other MKUltra, MKNaomi, MKXRay, and other programs that got declassified in the 70s.
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00:07:01.000Are we choosing our own destiny or has it been preselected for us?
00:07:04.000As we've moved through history, every great leader has had to understand the potential of information.
00:07:10.000Billions of dollars have been spent privately and publicly looking at how to tap into your psyche.
00:07:18.000From compulsory state education to the Hollywood media brainwashing machine, we are kept in perpetual bondage to the ideas that shape our actions.
00:07:27.000When somebody obscures that feedback loop between you observing and testing it out and verifying it, they can take total control of your awareness.
00:07:34.000All of this is happening so fast, you need to be ahead of the game.
00:07:37.000How to engineer the opinion of the American people so that they would not only endorse, but demand a war.
00:08:53.000We're going to have him popping in at the bottom of the hour to talk about how Media Matters and other White House run groups tried to not let that show go on the air because the word God in the name.
00:09:06.000And then, yesterday, the Toronto Health Department came out and said, ABC News, please don't... In fact, guys, will you reprint me the article?
00:09:15.000I know it came out yesterday afternoon.
00:09:18.000The Toronto Health Department came out and said, the Canadian Health Authorities came out and asked ABC to reconsider Jenny McCarthy and said that she will cause undue deaths by her vaccine misinformation.
00:09:35.000Of course, they gave no proof of that, but they just demonized her.
00:09:39.000You've got other big pharma groups here in the United States trying to keep her off the air, even though she's not going to be talking about stuff like that on air, obviously.
00:11:03.000They had a bunch of deaths during the trials.
00:11:05.000And then Rick Perry came out and lied and said that it was the law.
00:11:12.000You've got to take the shot in Texas, like he was Emperor, King of Earth.
00:11:16.000And people went out by the hundreds of thousands and gave their girls shots.
00:11:23.000And then a bunch of them died, a bunch of them got paralyzed, a bunch of them had health problems.
00:11:27.000And so the story here is, what is a foreign government?
00:11:31.000I forgot to get a water, I need one real bad, thanks.
00:11:37.000It's so obvious what's going on here and it's just a gang of government bullies and others and media bullies trying to persecute as heretics and and blacklist in a type of Soviet corporatist
00:11:59.000Authoritarian intimidation, anybody that speaks out about anything outside of the establishment norm.
00:12:11.000And the establishment norm itself is just wall-to-wall anti-sovereignty, anti-family, anti-private property, Medical liberty, anti-privacy, I mean just pure authoritarianism, thank you, called liberalism.
00:12:34.000And you've got to establish an authoritarianism from the right wing as well, because the same special interest will buy off any group or politician they can, and then have them try to package it for conservatives, package it for liberals, package it for libertarians, the co-opt movements, I mean you know how this works.
00:12:51.000If you can control the government, if you've got a big government, you can control the market, you can control the corporate welfare, you can control the implementation of regulations, this is the real discrimination in our world.
00:13:01.000And they want us so obsessed on race, and religion, and sex, and all this other diversions, as political footballs, while they steal the whole world.
00:13:11.000Again, I monitor MSNBC in the coffee room, CNN, Fox.
00:13:14.000We have different areas of the office because television's on, monitoring it.
00:13:46.000Go after real grassroots libertarians that, by the way, are getting major seats in the House.
00:13:53.000And that's what Joe Biden's freaking about.
00:13:55.000Freaking out about when he talks to millionaire donors.
00:13:58.000And the audio gets leaked a few months ago.
00:14:00.000That's what Obama talks about to big donors.
00:14:02.000And that's what Karl Rove talks about to the Republican leadership.
00:14:06.000Because they're all part of the same establishment.
00:14:08.000And if they can't suppress the Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Libertarian type, they're gonna lose.
00:14:16.000And so every time I walk by MSNBC, I mean every time, This just happened 20 minutes ago, right before the show started.
00:14:23.000I was hearing, well, it's just the racist Ted Cruz, and you know they hate Hispanics, and they're very racist, and the racist Rand Paul, with no proof, no nothing.
00:14:34.000And for someone who's informed, you watch it, you go, this is cartoonish.
00:14:40.000But for people that are just purely politically correct, they go, well, I better not be pro-gun, that's racist.
00:14:50.000I better be for the expansion of NAFTA and GATT and all these other trade deals into Asia, the Caribbean, Europe, thousands of pages long, sometimes tens of thousands.
00:15:02.000I saw some number the other day where the new trade agreements, 50-something thousand pages long.
00:15:07.000It's just every special interest writing in what they want, and sometimes they get a whole area of law written for $10,000.
00:15:14.000I was reading where lobbyists come in and will give $100,000 in one day to a candidate, and it's like $10,000 here, $10,000 there, and they're getting billions sometimes for $10,000 donation.
00:15:30.000You can give $100,000 and meet with the president privately for 15 minutes, and if they can do it, then he tells his aide, okay, get that done, and they do it!
00:15:40.000Oh, you gave the President, you know, with your dealership group in Indiana, Minnesota, and a couple of the states up there.
00:17:21.000I have been in meetings over the years, by circumstance or by dumb luck, with High-level Hollywood people, high-level corporate people, and all they do is sit around talking about killing people, and ruining their competition, and chomping on cigars, and slapping, you know, supermodels on the hind end saying, get me a drink.
00:17:47.000I mean, folks, that's who runs this country.
00:17:51.000They fawn after the corporate and Hollywood chiefs.
00:17:55.000Vice presidents and presidents on jets, I've been told, by multiple top-level A-list stars just fawn after them.
00:18:03.000They are disconnected completely from reality.
00:18:09.000In their own la-la land, Let Them Eat Cake, Marie Antoinette, where 2,000-plus companies got waivers from Obamacare, In direct competition with their competition, bankrupting their competition.
00:18:22.000I mean, do you know what it means if, say, you're Whataburger, and you don't get a waiver on Obamacare, but McDonald's does?
00:18:42.000Instead of building an economy and having a real economy not based on corruption, we're going, we're Guatemala, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Chile, Brazil.
00:18:54.000Argentina, 50 years ago, anthropologists, sociologists would tell you, was probably more wealthy than the US on average, one of the wealthiest countries in the world, because they didn't allow corruption.
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00:24:08.000You know, I would think regardless of what your political bent is on a planetary scale, no matter where you are in the world, you would want to support a mother who has an autistic child's right to investigate vaccines as one of the main causal effects.
00:24:22.000When so many parents, thousands on record, I've talked to hundreds myself, go in as the third round of shots at 18 months, take the shots, the kid has a convulsion, never talks again.
00:24:33.000And then they have an autoimmune response, blood on the brain.
00:24:35.000And then the inserts say it can do that to you.
00:24:40.000And then there's all these countless studies, and they go, oh, kooks say mercury hurts your brain.
00:24:59.000This is the type of arrogance that we're talking about, and I'm going to play a clip of this coming up with Man Cow, where they're on Fox, CNN, you name it, saying, she doesn't need a show, she shouldn't be on the air.
00:25:11.000Bipartisan hordes of people whose shows are probably a third or more financed by big pharma ads.
00:25:18.000Where they say, having to urinate too much?
00:25:21.000And then it lists, like, 30 seconds of may kill you, brain damage, liver failure, death, uh, make you commit suicide.
00:25:29.000Every time I watch TV, it's like, half the drug ads are like, it may make you commit suicide, or cause mass murder, blood clots, death, psychopathic activities.
00:25:51.000You've all seen it, like, may cause heart attack, may cause autoimmune disease, may cause liver failure, may cause suicidal thoughts or suicidal actions.
00:25:58.000And look, the person's walking, waving.
00:26:50.000He's had a lot of different hit TV shows.
00:26:52.000And I just don't mess with it because if I'm in the show and sign a contract, I've got to then let them do whatever they want with the reality TV show.
00:27:03.000And I almost wish I would have been involved in God.
00:27:09.000Guns and automobiles, because it's turned out to be a pretty good show.
00:27:13.000Mildly libertarian, mildly pro-family, mildly pro-strong male figure.
00:27:41.000It's all about how they're the bosses.
00:27:43.000When they have tiny audiences, but it still works!
00:27:46.000When they bully Fox News about Napolitano coming on, Napolitano was told, well, Media Matters doesn't like you doing this, and the White House is putting pressure on us, so you can't go on his show or any other Libertarian shows.
00:28:35.000And that's why they had articles in New York Magazine going, Alex Jones wants to be on Fox, but he'll never be.
00:28:43.000And that was a Fox executive saying that because they knew full well Fox came and begged me probably seven, eight times to do shows, pilot shows.
00:28:53.000And I said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:29:09.000I don't fly out to LA now and they go, first class will fly out for this meeting with the president of this network or the vice president of that network or the head of programming.
00:29:18.000And I go, look, you're just going to pick my brain for more shows.
00:29:23.000And even if the show gets picked up, it's gonna get killed.
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00:33:26.000All right, ladies and gentlemen, few things get me hotter under the collar. - I'm sorry.
00:33:39.000Few things get me more angry than scum trying to censor me.
00:33:46.000And they've got media matters and White House campaigns on record that make phone calls to sponsor stations.
00:33:52.000They openly try to get talk show hosts off the air.
00:33:55.000That's why even though I compete directly with Rush Limbaugh, I have gone, and Clear Channel knows this, and bought advertising not once but twice during boycotts of Rush Limbaugh.
00:34:05.000A, I'm supporting the First Amendment.
00:34:07.000B, I get about third price advertising when that's happening.
00:34:59.000Now, the name had Media Matters, we'll put that on screen in a moment, or I'll pull it up, had Media Matters come out before they'd even seen it months ago and say, this show shouldn't be on, it's another horrible gun show.
00:35:11.000There it is, meet Mankal Muller, the conspiracy theorist star of History Channel's new gun show.
00:35:26.000They tell you who you can have on air.
00:35:28.000They tell you that if you don't support turning your guns in, you are a racist.
00:35:36.000Again, Media Matters has almost no visitors, but they are the direct talking points for MSNBC on record, and they're run by the former White House transition chief and about, what, 15 other White House people, and they have weekly meetings with the White House.
00:35:51.000They use the IRS to shut down Tea Party, to shut down Pro-Life, to shut down businesses they don't like, NSA spying on the press.
00:35:59.000These are flaming authoritarian scumbags!
00:36:03.000And what came out three years ago in Politico, they said, we will even get hired at companies and we will infiltrate them and bring them down.
00:36:10.000So we have to run background checks on people to make sure they don't even work with these.
00:36:14.000I mean, and I think we may have been hit by some before.
00:36:18.000I mean, ladies and gentlemen, this is an intelligence operation we're facing.
00:36:22.000And they want to bring Drudge down and they want to bring anybody who isn't a complete communist, basically.
00:36:28.000Or isn't a corporate fascist that supports only the insiders like Google and Apple and Al Gore on the board, and the Foxcom, uh, Death Nets, and all the rest of it.
00:36:37.000If you're not part of their monopoly and their crew, you ain't part of the club.
00:36:43.000And so, now they are really going after his show, just like they tried to shut down the Bible, but see, something's happening in Hollywood and TV.
00:36:52.000The ratings are only for pro-gun, pro-God, liberty stuff.
00:36:55.000Instead of getting a half million views, you get 4 million views, 10 million views, 14 million views.
00:37:00.000And so the show has been picked up for a second season.
00:37:43.000They're going after me, Jenny McCarthy.
00:37:45.000What is happening here, and does it make you get angry to have these authoritarian, blacklisting people that make McCarthy look like an angel?
00:37:53.000I'm going to tell you a story that I've never told anyone, and you're not going to believe where I'm going with this.
00:37:59.000I was sitting with actor William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy, Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock, Listen, Alex, you won't believe this story.
00:38:08.000They are fighting over Leonard Nimoy double-dipping in the avocado in the guacamole.
00:38:16.000This is at Shatner's house outside of Studio City.
00:38:19.000And we're watching the Super Bowl, as we do every year at Shatner's house.
00:38:23.000And they're fighting over Mr. Spock double-dipping.
00:39:43.000We need to fight for free speech right now.
00:39:45.000And Opie and Anthony said something that was just, they asked me about the size of my manhood or something, and everybody giggled on the phone, and I went, oh, dear God, these morons.
00:40:45.000And, uh, I mean, you know, you and I keep fighting and we keep, but, uh, look, it's, it, uh, Alec Baldwin, uh, yelling out homophobic remarks.
00:40:53.000Ray Dong Chong calling Oprah the N-word.
00:40:55.000This is fine because they're on the left.
00:40:57.000Oh, no, he's allowed to say, go to somebody's house and kill their children.
00:41:00.000That is a call to murderous action, and if he says that about my family, I'm coming after you, Baldwin!
00:41:06.000Yeah, yesterday, uh, the government took a vote.
00:41:10.000And they decided it was okay for the government to listen in on all of our phone calls.
00:41:15.000And someone today said to me, well man, how did that happen?
00:41:18.000I said, when I was a child I went backstage and I saw Hulk Hogan and the Iron Sheik hanging out and it blew my mind.
00:41:26.000The Republicans and the Democrats, and I've hung out with all of them, presidents and all these politicians, and they do the fake fight on TV.
00:41:33.000You really do get into all the A-list parties, Mancow, so you get to see it all.
00:41:36.000What I'm trying to tell you is, well, do you think the government's going to vote to curtail their own behavior?
00:46:06.000She's a former Playboy Playmate of the Year, but she's been getting pummeled in the media, Jenna, because she is a leading crusader for this utterly discredited theory that childhood vaccinations cause autism.
00:46:19.000She has a son who developed autism, but medical study after medical study has said this is junk science, including a recent one of nearly a thousand children in the Journal of Pediatrics.
00:46:29.000of moms watch the view i don't know whether she'll be talking about it on the air but uh it does have an effect the the the scare stories about that they go on to say she basically shouldn't have the show and now the canadian government says she shouldn't have a show by the way man cow uh i mean there are studies everywhere that vaccines are causing autoimmune problems and doing all sorts of stuff We've gone from 1 in 25,000 with autism to 1 in 50-something.
00:47:46.000And I want to tell you, and it's going to be hard for me to fight back the emotion, because of My blessings and the role that I've had and the ability to facilitate so much communication.
00:48:04.000I've come out of my studio and seen people with 13-year-old girls in baby strollers, 15-year-old kids on gurneys, and they said, man, Cal, I had a healthy, beautiful child.
00:48:17.000They got the vaccine and their eyes rolled back in their head and they've never talked since.
00:48:25.000Their faces went blank, and that was it.
00:50:10.000That's what's so crazy, is that they admit all this, and then they go, crazy people think it can hurt you!
00:50:17.000And, brother, maybe, God, this is awful to say, maybe it's like anything else, you know, with the polio vaccine or any other vaccine, you know, there are kids that are going to react negatively to it.
00:50:30.000Maybe for the greater good it has to happen, but I do think it's happening.
00:50:34.000Well, I know you're playing devil's advocate, but Mancow, it's causing greater problems.
00:50:41.000I believe in immunization technology, if it's properly researched and applied.
00:50:47.000The problem is they're putting stuff in there on purpose, and I have the documents.
00:50:51.000I want to come back and talk about the NSA, everything we've talked about now coming true, but are we getting awards for it?
00:54:54.000uh... microscope and and you can see what mercury does it compared to all their heavy metals it causes electro uh... convulsive explosions in the electrochemical brain cells it's the most destructive metal in the brain you can find all the different university uh... you know microscope uh... footage of that uh... and we've done this before but here is KI this aired nationwide uh... because they have news packages that air locally this was a nationally written piece But this aired in Austin, and they say this still.
00:55:22.000I think the Harvard says right here, mercury is good for your child's brain.
00:55:28.000Mercury-containing vaccines may help not harm kids, according to two new studies in the journal Pediatrics.
00:55:35.000There have been widespread concerns that mercury-based preservatives and vaccines might impair the neurological development of children.
00:55:41.000These new studies suggest that the opposite, that the preservatives may actually be associated with improved behavior and mental performance.
00:55:49.000By the way, boys' IQs, you can pull this up.
00:55:52.000Harvard study, by the way, over 20-point reduction, girls about 17.
00:56:27.000I... I want to tell you there's a... I had a moment where I opened up my window, I was on the 35th floor on Wacker Street in Chicago, and I opened up my window and there was a... And there was a...
00:56:44.000A helicopter on silent mode looking at me, unmarked.
00:56:48.000And I got on and talked about it, and I was insane.
00:57:05.000NSA, chemicals in the water, now it's all mainstream.
00:57:08.000Last, uh, excuse me, two nights ago they did the military exercises again where they did the crackdown of the city of Chicago where I'm at.
00:57:14.000Why is the military practicing attacking American cities?
00:57:17.000Because they know that the economy is teetering on the brink.
00:57:57.000And then this guy sitting over in Russia who got a book deal yesterday, Snowden, the leaker, you know, tells us, oh, they listen to all those Supreme Court conversations.
00:58:07.000So I believe that these guys are being blackmailed and controlled by our government.
00:58:11.000I want to tell you, I want to tell you about, you know, this special class, the government and judges that nobody can say anything to.
00:58:25.000We're going to open the phones up, folks, for the next hour and cover all the Supreme Court rulings, what's happening with the House rejects bid to curb spy agency collection.
00:58:33.000We're going to get into all of it coming up, but Mancow's our guest.
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01:02:58.000I mean, look at the gangster photos he was putting out.
01:03:00.000Sporting the full grill and the gangster, you know, Flavor Flay look.
01:03:05.000Look, I've interviewed some of the jurors, and let me tell you what I've come to believe, Alex, and I want to share this quickly with your audience.
01:03:10.000Zimmerman would have gotten two or three years.
01:03:12.000He probably should have spent a year or two in jail.
01:03:14.000Sorry, I know that offends some people.
01:03:19.000But the judge was so repulsive, and I believe so pressured by Obama to put Zimmerman in jail for 25 years, that when the jury said, you know what, if we give it over to this judge, she's going to put him away for 25 years.
01:03:30.000She's going to put Zimmerman away forever.
01:04:55.000Mancow, let me say bye to you during the break.
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01:08:13.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:08:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:08:21.000All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are now into our number ladies and gentlemen, we are now into our number two, and I want to open the phones up here.
01:08:42.000On any issue we should discuss, we're going to do first-time calls again today.
01:08:59.000So that's why I do first-time calls about half the time.
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01:09:18.000800-259-9231. 800 If you just heard the last hour, we talked about Jenny McCarthy, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, Big Pharma, the Canadian government, all coming out saying, don't let her have a show on The View.
01:09:42.000Not because she's a communist, because she's not a communist.
01:09:44.000It's like the old Red Scare, but worse.
01:09:46.000Because there really were communists, but it went too far.
01:09:48.000This is, you think vaccines might be dangerous.
01:09:51.000Everyone knows, there's no problems, no side effects.
01:09:54.000I show you articles every year when the vaccine season comes around the start of school.
01:09:57.000There's zero side effects, they're conspiracy.
01:10:00.000And then I read the actual CDC side effect.
01:15:37.000And the technocrats have now merged with the plutocrats, and they have merged the program into a neo-feudalistic surf system, not to create a plutocratic Endless surf system, a Hunger Games scenario, to bring in the robots, to implode the economies, to get full control over humans, and an artificial scarcity system.
01:15:57.000See, the robots and automation mean, according to all the physicists and researchers and academics that I've interviewed, and I agree with their analysis, it's accurate, we should be working two days a week, coming up with ideas to empower humanity, having giant corporate and public buy-in kind of Massive scale!
01:17:50.000And that's why Chicago crime bosses and New York crime bosses and all these guys hate the fact that citizens have got guns.
01:17:58.000Because how are they ever going to fully take over and plow things and socially engineer us if we've got guns?
01:18:02.000How are they going to have race wars and collapsing societies when all of the evil blue states And all of the evil red states, I'm being sarcastic, have to be played off against each other when it won't work if everybody's armed.
01:18:20.000And if you don't write tickets, you get written up and then removed off the force.
01:18:28.000And now if you don't go and help the CPS take kids, you get thrown off the force.
01:18:32.000And now if you... on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.
01:18:39.000And you get told, go out and violate people's rights, you know, we're doing it for their own good, blah blah blah.
01:18:46.000But you know that wealthy areas They pull over a black guy driving a $100,000 Mercedes in a suit, the cops aren't going to violate his rights.
01:18:56.000They pull over a $100,000 Mercedes with a white guy wearing an Armani suit, they're not going to violate his rights statistically, because they know this guy's got lawyers, this guy knows what he's doing.
01:19:05.000Of course they're going to violate poor blacks' rights and poor whites' rights and Hispanics' rights, because they're being told, do this, That's the fake, macho, thug culture the globalists are trying to social engineer into police.
01:19:17.000And they know these people can't stand up for themselves and have no history of liberty, no history of freedom, no community.
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01:22:00.000We the people grow cotton, weave fabric, engrave ink, embed strips and fibers to protect from counterfeit, then carting to a private bank, having it lent back at interest, forcing taxes to service debt.
01:22:10.000Or was Jefferson correct when stating a central bank issuing the public currency is a greater menace to the liberties of the people than a standing army?
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01:24:00.000All right, I'm going to go to your phone calls, and then I'm going to break down the traitorous House of Representatives rejects bid to curb spy agency data collection.
01:24:15.000It's admittedly illegal, they're recording everything, have computers listening to everything, they're using it against Congress, they've tapped the phones and have microphones in the cloakroom, the Supreme Court, it's all come out And they're like, we're not gonna pass a law to restrict that.
01:24:47.000It's been in the Chicago Tribune and Associated Press that major defense contractors run child kidnapping rings and connected to snuff film groups.
01:24:56.000And it's like, well, they're a big defense contractor.
01:25:57.000I mean, it's got every player you can imagine on there.
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01:26:04.000Or just type in Bradley Manning Court and look at the photos of him when he's brought in and out of court through hallways.
01:26:13.000They will have Army soldiers in full combat gear with M4s And sidearms strapped to their legs with other people, private army security walking around, acting like the hundred-pound man is going to kill everybody.
01:28:05.000That's the new manliness, not being informed, not knowing anything, not being involved.
01:28:10.000Just drink your fluoride, take your GMO, roll over and die, hand your kids over to the state, but just lift weights all day, and then just wear combat outfits and just stand there going... And everybody just worships you.
01:28:23.000Oh my god, oh the state's so powerful!
01:28:28.000And if you go to Mexico or Guatemala or Nicaragua or if you go to Romania or you go to North Korea, you're going to see the same thing.
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01:33:19.000*music* By the way, the Wall Street Journal has recently come out, two days ago, and admitted we're turning into a total police state, and that militarized police wage war against an enemy, which makes us the enemy.
01:33:37.000Well, yeah, no, they now call us insurgents.
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01:37:23.000Or else can you run child porn and snuff films and every crime under the sun and run narcotics into the country and Pat Tillman speaks out against the narcotics trafficking and you just murder him and make up a story, I was fighting Al-Qaeda and it comes out, you don't get in trouble, you know?
01:37:36.000So again, we've just got to admit how evil the globalists are.
01:37:41.000They have infested all the major posts in the federal government.
01:37:45.000To the point of her like, we're gonna just have Congress vote to not restrict illegal spying.
01:37:49.000And they're like, yeah, we're having hearings about taking your private pension funds.
01:40:38.000You get rid of checks and balances, rule of law, you become an immoral people, the very worst will take over because they want to exercise mass death.
01:40:46.000They want burning cities, piles of dead children, And normal people go, but I don't want that.
01:41:14.000Yeah, I mean, you see attacks on all basic Christian religion, because it talks about family and not having abortion, and because God is above the state.
01:41:24.000And the state wants to be God, so it wants to get rid of its competition.
01:41:28.000Whether you believe in God or not, the atheists are like, we don't have God-given rights.
01:41:32.000The state gives us our rights, so the state can take it away.
01:41:35.000Even if you're an atheist, you should say, I believe I don't get my rights from the state.
01:42:00.000I'm calling about something interesting with the NSA Google connection there that you've been documenting for years.
01:42:07.000So I had signed up for the Google Voice, which they, as you know, give free phone calls through integrated in their Gmail service.
01:42:17.000And for the longest time I would get voicemail you know an email sent to my account saying you've got a voicemail from a random number that you don't know and the voicemail might be one minute it might be 15 minutes of people going about their daily business and you're being recorded and it's being transmitted by their cell phone and then it's Yeah, let me explain what's going on.
01:42:49.000I've got, I just pulled them up here on my account for, you know, going back two years, dozens of these.
01:42:56.000Yeah, yeah, let me explain what's going on.
01:42:58.000When you build back doors into the dishwashers, the computers, the smartphones, all of it, it puts added cost on everybody, and then it causes a lot of compatibility problems because everything is really built to spy and control you. and then it causes a lot of compatibility problems because And then it allows other third party groups to break in and use the data.
01:43:20.000Then the government uses that as an excuse to get more power.
01:43:24.000And then they're using face scanning technology to tell if you're wealthy or not to then charge you extra or to tell what you'll buy even if it costs too much if you're poor.
01:43:33.000That's what the customer loyalty cards have always been about is to track your behavior so they can rip you off.
01:43:38.000I mean, it's all just a giant gaming system.
01:43:41.000People say, well, why should I be private?
01:43:51.000They are using all this to have an advantage, economically, to dominate and control you, and to figure out how to game you.
01:43:59.000The smart meters, 20 years ago, when they were coming out with them, said, we're going to control what's in your house, we're going to charge you at peak times, and we're going to use this to increase prices.
01:44:09.000And so, we're just saying, oh, we trust you!
01:44:13.000Because it's bad to not trust people you don't know.
01:44:16.000See, you're supposed to trust people you don't know, trust the government, that's virtue, but don't trust your family.
01:44:22.000All the sitcoms, all the dramas, fight with your family, fight with your husband, fight with your wife, trust the government.
01:44:31.000It's the opposite of how things should work.
01:44:34.000And so, yeah, I mean, you get calls on your cell phone where people are breathing, you get other people's voicemails, because it's all run through these big hubs now, and a lot of the compatibility problems, it just compounds technological problems that everything is having snooping hubs put in front of it.
01:45:18.000I've got, you know, I've been there, where the GSA come around, and then I have to, you know, they hassle you, they give you the pat-down, and then I'm forced to stand there, right at the line, and record, you know, the rest of the time there.
01:45:33.000No that's it, they're teaching you that you're a suspect when of course the people running the country stage the terror so they can get trillions in no-bid contracts and take over society and spy on everyone and get away with bloody murder and invade whatever countries they want.
01:46:10.000We're going to lose everything because we're letting corruption grow, or we can wake up and admit we're in trouble and try to turn the tide.
01:46:17.000But if the general public, not our listeners, but new listeners, people that are in denial... Last night at about 9 o'clock I was still working and I said, let's go get some food up at this local restaurant slash bar.
01:46:30.000So we're in there eating and people are coming over shaking my hand.
01:46:37.000We were having a meeting about a film we're making.
01:46:40.000It was about 10 o'clock at night and this guy sits down at a table and he's just bugging his eyes out at me.
01:46:45.000You could tell he was like a trendy government type who thought he was the boss and I just looked at him and said, oh you're with the government, you're the boss, you're looking at me in a sardonic way and I'm supposed to feel small?
01:46:56.000And then he didn't like that and got up and went and sat down at the bar and then I saw him turn and look as Two guys with their beautiful girlfriends came over and were shaking my hand and saying hi and stuff and it just made him really mad because he was seeing Liberty was popular.
01:47:11.000See, they want to sell the idea of Jenny McCarthy's a kook, don't give her a show, ban Mound Cow Show, get Alex Jones off the air.
01:47:19.000And because these are collectivists and they want to make you feel uncomfortable.
01:47:23.000Hey, I'm not uncomfortable when some cowardly piece of crap like you, excuse my French, Uh, he's sitting there trying to glower at me, like that's gonna shake me up.
01:47:33.000That just makes me work that much harder.
01:47:36.000And I worked till 10.30 last night and went home.
01:48:54.000I knew a month and a half before because eyewitnesses we had on air.
01:48:59.000And I already knew when the eyewitnesses were credible just from what they were saying, their history, who they were, and how they were talking, and the M.O.
01:49:09.000I knew that the guest we had on that were witnesses to that bombing, that firecracker bombing, you have a firecracker bombing and some drugged up Mutalib's pants, and you get to roll in $5 billion in naked scanners the last three years.
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01:56:07.000I can't tell you how many radio hosts, TV hosts, government people, FBI agents, billionaires, you name it, hear the show, laugh at it.
01:56:15.000And then get set up, or their kid gets brain damage from a shot, or they notice both their neighbor's kids have cancer, and then their wife gets it.
01:56:22.000I mean, look, look, nobody's getting out of this, okay?
02:00:57.000And I want to apologize for my home state's representative, Mr. Lindsey Graham, and there is an independent, there's nothing to do about it because there's no Democratic Party really to speak of in the state.
02:01:12.000Yeah, but I'd rather put a communist in than Lindsey Graham.
02:01:14.000You can take one look at that guy and tell that he's a homicidal degenerate.
02:01:19.000I mean, and I don't mean physically, he just looks like a raving demon.
02:01:23.000And the stuff he does, and well, he said things about torturing people and we will get you and we will torture you.
02:01:29.000I mean, that is a creepy guy that I imagine dresses up like a clown in basements.
02:03:16.000You're the one who woke me up so much so that I went ahead and on the 4th of July opened my own website and that's where my problems started.
02:03:23.000I start now feeling and experiencing a small amount of what you must majorly experience.
02:03:33.000I've had them take pictures of my trash cans, what's inside my trash, but the biggest slap in the face was when I had to go through DC recently I can't carry my gun anymore legally in D.C.
02:03:48.000I pulled up to an intersection, stopped at the light, then I was recognized by someone on the side of the street as a cop.
02:03:57.000His friend started running over to the car.
02:03:59.000I went through the red light, got pictured through, or got caught on camera doing it, and after an appeal process of trying to, you know, explain why I went through the red light and everything, The DMV has decided that it doesn't matter if I was trying to save my own life.
02:04:16.000I still went through the light, and I have to pay them a $150 fine.
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02:08:21.000Live from Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide, it's Alex Jones.
02:08:27.000Norm Stamper is known for his roles as the chief of police, the department responsible for Seattle's response to the protests at WTO, Conference 99.
02:08:52.000and And of course, he's also written the best-selling book, Breaking Rank, that I've read great reviews of.
02:08:59.000In fact, I meant to get him on years ago, but was unable to, so I'm glad he's here with us.
02:09:03.000He's a top cop's expose of the dark side of American policing, and has starred in the marijuana documentary, The Union, the business behind getting high.
02:09:26.000And he joins us now to talk about that.
02:09:30.000But I gotta tell you, before we go there, just looking at the whole landscape of policing, I know you've spoken out since you resigned, and I appreciate that fact.
02:09:40.000I've agreed with a lot of what I've seen you say on the news, sir.
02:09:43.000Did you see the Wall Street Journal two days ago?
02:09:47.000It's time to reconsider the militarization of American policing.
02:09:51.000I mean, military kills people and breaks things and occupies.
02:09:55.000And more and more, if I go to the Kite Festival, they have the National Guard out with police searching everyone, when if I was a bomber, I'd just bomb the checkpoint.
02:10:05.000I mean, it does nothing but, I guess, set the precedent that we're all prisoners and defense contractors are selling, you know, $2 million robots to every city, and we've got surveillance drones and blimps.
02:10:18.000I mean, this is like something out of a Kurt Vonnegut novel.
02:10:21.000So, Chief, it's good to have you on with us via video Skype.
02:10:33.000Yeah, we've got a Skype problem with the police chief.
02:10:46.000We've had a Skype problem with the last few guests, and we're going to get him connected via phone line right now.
02:10:51.000But we've got a routing issue with our system, and we've established that now, that that's going on.
02:10:59.000So we are going to connect with him via telephone and do that.
02:11:03.000Or he'll be the last Skype guest we ever have again with this new precedent-setting system we have.
02:11:09.000The reason I'm a little frustrated on air is I know it's our system.
02:11:12.000It does that with every guest now, and I just was waiting for that to prove I was right to happen on air with a giant galactic-sized train wreck.
02:12:46.000And they've come out in the last two years and said, men need to take this, you're giving women this virus.
02:12:52.000And then the vaccine says it doesn't even protect you from the virus on the insert.
02:12:56.000And it killed people in the trial, and it's been banned all over the world.
02:13:04.000But it's still here because we believe.
02:13:07.000I mean, why did you get the Gardasil shot?
02:13:10.000Um because the doctor told me that it would uh protect me against uh STDs and uh I never got all three of the shots I only got two of them and then I left for college so and then it's like My mom works for GE Capital.
02:13:50.000I've really wanted him on for a long time as he knows so much about what's going on and he is the best-selling author of Breaking Rank, a top cop's expose of the dark side of American policing and he was the police chief during the WTO conference and all of that that happened.
02:14:04.000He's with Copsay, LegalizedDrugs.com and also Normal.
02:14:08.000And again, Norm Stamper, Chief, good to have you on with us.
02:14:11.000What do you think of the way policing's changed overall in this country?
02:14:16.000I'm troubled by it, deeply troubled by it, as a matter of fact.
02:14:19.000I think in the wake of 9-11 and also because of the impetus or the thrust of the drug war, we have police officers becoming less and less attuned to their own neighborhoods and communities.
02:14:30.000And quite frankly, I think what we've seen is vastly increased militarization of American police forces, which puts civil liberties at risk, which puts community health and safety at risk as well.
02:14:50.000It seems like even establishment folks are starting to get concerned.
02:14:53.000Or will we just be like a third world country now?
02:14:56.000You know, I hope there's a way to reverse it.
02:14:58.000I always believe that there's a way to reverse it.
02:15:01.000This is a function, I think, of the people deciding what kind of policing they want.
02:15:07.000Because that's pretty much the kind of policing they're going to get.
02:15:10.000And I really do believe that with the aftermath of 9-11, the Department of Defense, Homeland Security, DEA, throwing money and equipment at local law enforcement, we find even tiny rural police departments with large SWAT contingencies, or contingents I should say, and we're finding no reluctance on the part of Homeland Security to provide
02:15:40.000Military-grade equipment to the tiniest of departments.
02:15:47.000An AP reporter called me a couple weeks ago, one of my reactions to a couple of examples.
02:16:49.000What was going on now in hindsight with that, sir?
02:16:52.000Well, the long and the short of it is that we thought we were prepared and we weren't.
02:16:57.000We thought we were ready, we thought we were smarter than the anarchists, and it turns out, at least in terms of the tactics employed, we simply were not up to it.
02:17:09.000It's a small city, comparatively speaking, about 530,000 at that time, with a small police force in a small state, a small county for that matter.
02:17:21.000And the mayor disagreed with me, but I don't think that that conference, the World Trade Organization, should have been held in Seattle at all.
02:17:34.000But I will tell you that Looking back on it, I made the biggest mistake of my career during that week, and it now constitutes my legacy in the minds of many people.
02:17:48.000We were accused on day one of underreacting, on day two of overreacting, and I think the point is that if you've got a very small police force, you've got to make sure that these kinds of events
02:18:09.000Anything that's got world, international, trade, finance, monetary in its title should be held in much larger areas with much larger police forces.
02:19:04.000What type of, where does that come from?
02:19:06.000We have video of girls on bikes at the university, not even part of anything.
02:19:11.000Being hit and knocked off their bike and then the cop hits her in the head, assault with a deadly weapon for no reason.
02:19:19.000What is going on when we see these images of what's happening to the culture?
02:19:26.000I think what's happening is that the police, in becoming increasingly militarized over the years, have seen the people as their enemy.
02:19:38.000Have, in fact, in the name of public safety, violated civil liberties and constitutional rights of their fellow Americans.
02:19:47.000In short, they have abused the people they've been hired to protect and serve.
02:19:52.000This is certainly not all cops, it's not all police departments at all times, but it's been a very disturbing trend and it needs to get reversed.
02:20:03.000I want to play you a clip from Seattle and then get your final points on that and then shift gears in the drug war, which obviously this all, in my view, the militarization began with.
02:20:11.000We'll see if you agree with that in a moment.
02:20:13.000But here is a clip from my film, Police State 2, the takeover from Seattle, just to remind people of what happened.
02:21:02.000He re-stunned his body and pulled it right out.
02:21:04.000I asked if I could go through, he said, I couldn't if I had a button, and I wasn't going through the line, and then he ripped it off my jacket.
02:21:10.000Now, if I say I'm protesting WTO, I can't go in.
02:21:15.000If my t-shirt said I supported the WTO, should I go in?
02:22:25.000Norm, I want to ask you, was that the federal people that told you to do that?
02:22:30.000And what was your liaisoning with Delta Force?
02:22:34.000The answer to your question, Alex, is no.
02:22:37.000The City of Seattle was responsible for this.
02:22:41.000We had spent 11 months in planning and preparation.
02:22:45.000We, of course, had liaisons with the Secret Service because Clinton was coming to town.
02:22:52.000Uh, to address the WTO, uh, as was, uh, Madeleine Albright, Secretary of State, and the, and the, and the country's chief, uh, trade negotiator.
02:23:01.000Uh, and, and so we, we had a lot of federal dignitaries coming to town, uh, but I will tell you that this was, was a city and state operation.
02:23:14.000And it was not our finest hour, to say the least.
02:23:18.000I only bring it up because what we see there now is the norm all over the place.
02:23:23.000And I just read, and I talked to some police officers off record, they said Delta Force was basically in charge.
02:23:30.000Were you told not to talk about Delta Force?
02:23:35.000You know, I can appreciate people speculating about what went wrong, how it went wrong, who was responsible for it, but you are talking to the guy who is responsible for it.
02:23:46.000Sure, but I mean, so what was Delta Force doing?
02:23:48.000And I have not, until this moment, heard about Delta Force in conjunction with the WTO.
02:23:57.000That means you can either paint me as naive or as somebody who's giving you honest answers to who was responsible for what went on that week.
02:25:29.000We need a zone in which, because of the violence that had erupted, principally the result of the anarchists, but also some of our own actions, we needed to do this.
02:25:43.000And on reflection, we did not need to do it, and I'll live with that mistake for the rest of my life.
02:25:50.000Well, wow, we really appreciate your work for trying to keep this a free country, and especially hearing it from your Well-experienced, educated perspective.
02:26:01.000Again, we have the former police chief of Seattle joining us right now.
02:26:05.000We're also going to talk about his book.
02:26:07.000Norm, let's get into, though, the drug war.
02:26:11.000I mean, more drugs than ever, more police state than ever.
02:26:43.000Well, in addition to the literally tens of millions of Americans who have been incarcerated for non-violent drug offenses over the last 40 years, drugs are more readily available today at lower prices and higher levels of potency than when Nixon declared this war.
02:27:03.000Every president since him has signed on to the war.
02:27:05.000Every one of them has, you know, statements of the present administration notwithstanding.
02:27:13.000Every one of them has just as vigorously as the previous president prosecuted this war.
02:27:19.000And it has been terribly damaging to the entire country, to our economy, to quality of life, to neighborhood safety.
02:27:30.000It has fomented unprecedented levels of violence in Mexico and throughout the world.
02:27:39.000And we're the four-star general, Alex, in this war on drugs.
02:27:43.000It is time for us to acknowledge the huge mistake we made and end it.
02:27:50.000Replace prohibition, which is a corrupt and bankrupt model.
02:27:54.000It can never work, never has, never will.
02:27:57.000Replace that prohibition with a regulatory model.
02:28:01.000You know, a wide variety of ways to approach regulation, but something akin to what we did with alcohol seems to me to make the most sense.
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02:34:19.000Within less than a hundred years they had the whole country broke it in 10 and then 12 parts and the different Western powers ran China for hundreds of years and ran it into the ground and is the big reason it's the mess it is today in many respects.
02:34:50.000I'm going to try to shut up here and let you get into why you, as a former police chief, that has witnessed this, and the statistics, the numbers, the presence, what's really behind this drug war, what do we do about it, finish your point about the presence.
02:35:04.000Well, you know, in a word, fear is behind the drug war.
02:35:08.000And I speak specifically of the fear of elected officials, of our politicians, to really confront this issue the way it deserves to be confronted.
02:35:19.000Politicians don't want to be seen as weak on crime.
02:35:21.000They don't want to be seen as weak on drugs.
02:35:24.000They certainly don't want to be seen as condoning drug use.
02:35:27.000None of us in Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, I want to get that plug in, is of the opinion that anyone should be taking any particular kinds of drugs, including alcohol and tobacco and the like.
02:35:41.000But we all know that people are in fact going to use drugs of a wide variety of forms.
02:35:48.000So the question that we face, I think, as a society is do we want these private prisons, for example, just to cite one segment of the population invested in continuing the drug war?
02:36:01.000To build these prisons, to fill these cells, and to, in the process, make enormous profits housing non-violent offenders who are far better off treated in those instances where they've got an addiction problem, for that addiction, and allowed to stay in their homes, in their neighborhoods, in their communities.
02:36:23.000We talk about the breakup of the nuclear family.
02:36:27.000We've done this for decades in the African-American community.
02:36:30.000Well, for God's sakes, it's a drug war that has produced the lion's share of that particular problem.
02:36:37.000So we have a public policy that doesn't work, and we have people who have a responsibility for dealing with that who are just altogether too timid to do the right thing.
02:36:50.000Getting back to Obama's role, I mean, he didn't keep any of his promises, but that was one thing five, six years ago.
02:36:56.000I thought, well, at least there's no way he's going to lie about decriminalizing marijuana.
02:37:23.000And how does Obama get away with this?
02:37:26.000Well, you know, I come back to this notion that politicians can tie themselves up and not can become paralyzed by unfounded fears Their constituents are way out ahead of them.
02:37:46.000The polling shows that the vast majority of the American people have concluded that the drug war has been a failure.
02:37:54.000The majority of the American people believe that marijuana should be legalized today.
02:38:00.000Two states, Washington and Colorado, have in fact legalized adult use of small quantities of marijuana.
02:38:09.000You can't push it to a kid, you can't drive under its influence, you can't rob a bank and try to excuse yourself because you're under its influence.
02:38:18.000You've still got to behave responsibly, but making a choice about what you elect to put into your own body that harms no one else really should be reserved for the individual and not the government.
02:38:32.000What about the state's rights issue with Washington and Colorado being raided by the feds on a weekly basis when the states have decriminalized the marijuana?
02:38:47.000We have legalized, but the federal government trumps state law on marijuana.
02:38:55.000Years ago, Congress classified it as a Schedule I drug, which is an absurdity.
02:39:02.000But in so doing, they basically gave the federal government jurisdiction over marijuana enforcement.
02:39:09.000Now, so far, we have not seen the federal government move into either of these states to, you know, to do what they theoretically legally could do, and that is upend our laws altogether.
02:39:23.000They'd be making a huge political and strategic mistake.
02:39:27.000But in the end, I think we need to send a message to Congress that marijuana needs to be rescheduled and the states, apropos of your comments, the states need to be given the freedom to make their own laws along these lines.
02:39:44.000Sure, why do we even have states if they can't do things like decriminalize or legalize marijuana?
02:39:49.000And I understand they call it legalization, but there's still regulations, there's still laws, there's taxes, there's control.
02:39:59.000Well, and in fact, Alex, the distinction is important because, you see, if you don't legalize it, if you merely decriminalize it, it makes it an infraction.
02:40:10.000You're not going to go to jail behind a marijuana charge, a simple possession charge, but you are still considered a violator.
02:40:19.000So the product itself continues to be illicit.
02:40:22.000And as long as it's illicit, obscene profits will be made as a result of that classification.
02:41:35.000I want to get a little bit into your book and any other points you think are important to make, and I hope we can have you back again, because I think this is just an amazing interview.
02:41:41.000I hope that everybody will get involved and go to copssaylegalizedrugs.com, but I wanted to raise this point to you.
02:41:47.000I'm seeing the sanity movement really gain ground with libertarians, conservatives, you know, of course liberals, but really grow.
02:41:56.000Where even ten years ago, most of the police I talked to in Texas were like, you can't legalize that.
02:42:01.000Now all the cops I talk to No, that this is a total failure.
02:42:26.000What's going to happen if they keep fighting this for another decade, where every cop on the force at one time or another has smoked marijuana, or everybody knows it's nothing compared to alcohol, and I'm not a pot guy, I mean, I like alcohol more and I think it's actually pretty destructive.
02:42:41.000I mean, what's going to happen in this hypocrisy where we all know That it's just a way to have the government run our lives, and for corrupt drug dealers to make money.
02:42:51.000I mean, how long can this fraud go on, Police Chief?
02:42:54.000Well, you know, we could... I guess getting into another vice, we could take bets on how long it's gonna go on.
02:43:02.000My theory is hypocrisy crashes of its own weight eventually.
02:43:08.000The way to speed up that eventuality is for people to become organized, mobilized, agitated, educated, and to make their views known.
02:43:19.000One of the most encouraging trends that I'm, maybe it's wishful thinking, but I am detecting, is liberals, conservatives, libertarians coming together to appreciate That there is nothing socially worthy of a continuation of our drug war.
02:43:40.000That it's done altogether too much damage and it's time for us to unite to end that war.
02:43:47.000If you had to take bets on it, I think it's going to be, I think in the next five to seven years, I think it'll totally collapse.
02:43:55.000But then, what are the big banks going to do that are busy laundering the proceeds across the board?
02:44:01.000Well, you've got money laundering, you've got the private prisons, you've got the drug enforcement industry.
02:44:07.000These are all influences and forces in our society and the structure of our economy who are tied to these profits.
02:44:16.000They're going to have to use their imagination.
02:44:18.000They're going to have to buck up and recognize the value that will come from ending the drug war.
02:44:27.000And I personally believe that is going to happen, whether they're forced to come to that conclusion or they simply Muster the spine and the honesty to say, I've known for a long time that this is foolish.
02:44:53.000Norm Stamper, you don't know really many others, and we have the Austin Police Chief on routinely, Artie Cerveda.
02:45:00.000But expanding on this, Norm, your book, I was mailed two or three, four years ago, whenever it came out, I was mailed a magazine that had an excerpt of it and thought, wow, and read part of it on air.
02:45:19.000Through law enforcement and a lot of police chiefs responded for or con, but breaking rank atop cops expose the dark side of American policing.
02:45:29.000Spend a few minutes plugging your book and crystallizing, crystallizing what the dark side is.
02:45:37.000Well, the dark side for me is all those isms that we hear about that can be reduced to arrogance or to bigotry.
02:45:46.000And the tendency to continue doing things that we know are failed policies.
02:45:56.000Our approach, for example, to domestic violence.
02:45:59.000I personally believe that violence in the home is a precursor to pretty much all other forms of violence.
02:46:06.000The drug war I've mentioned, we've talked about at some length.
02:46:10.000I think we also need to take a look at the increased militarization, irrespective of the drug war, Uh, that finds its way into the policies and the procedures and the practices.
02:46:23.000The police response, for example, to the Occupy movement, uh, produced a number of very disturbing images.
02:46:31.000And I'm thinking, you have to police these, uh, events.
02:46:35.000You certainly have to ensure for the public safety of everyone.
02:46:40.000But when we, when we overreact to these situations, we essentially render ourselves, I think, un-American.
02:46:49.000I also believe very strongly that we need to look at other so-called victimless crimes and consensual behavior between adults that harms no one and that winds up being subject to American criminal justice laws and the criminal justice system.
02:47:16.000So, it's a book with 30 different chapters and 30 different topics, each one at least marginally different from the previous and the following.
02:48:10.000I think that there was a chance back in the 90s that we would actually see some small number of police departments embrace what I consider to be authentic community policing, and that is the community policing itself with help.
02:48:27.000A lot of help from the police, naturally, but other organizations as well.
02:48:32.000We used to say, popularly, you, the community, you need to be our eyes and ears.
02:48:39.000Well, I think it's time for us to turn that on its head and say, with one voice, or as many voices as we can pool together, to our local law enforcement, you are our eyes and ears.
02:48:54.000I was on another program yesterday with a woman who had a man who was stalking her and perhaps even some of her neighbors.
02:49:02.000She went around to every single one of the neighbors with a photograph of this guy and said, do you know him?
02:49:16.000They got counsel from the police about what to do and what not to do.
02:49:20.000You know, ways to avoid a George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin incident by the community becoming organized and mobilized and making decisions about how they want to achieve public safety in their own neighborhoods.
02:49:36.000Well exactly, because when you have the police militarized, it turns into an occupying army.
02:49:41.000They then have an attitude that they don't like you, you don't like them.
02:49:44.000That creates the division the authoritarian forces want in this country.
02:49:48.000And then I see fake community policing that just becomes secret police stuff versus police really assigned to an area where there's humanity and you know them and so everybody treats each other like humans.
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