Alex Jones Show - 20131021_Mon

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00:00:06.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:19.000 You want answers?

00:00:20.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:22.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:26.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:30.000 Well, now that, oh, vomit, excuse me, oh, bozo, oh, traitor, oh, globalist, oh, banker, frontman, oh, foreign New World Order occupier, frontman, oh, foreign New World Order occupier, puppeteer, and puppet himself, Obama, now that he has been forced to cover healthcare.gov instead of distracting people with the so-called partial government now that he has

00:01:04.000 on. - Yeah.

00:01:05.000 Folks are freaking out as they learn that nobody can sign up, that it's doubling premiums bare minimum, and even Consumer Reports has come out and said, stay away from healthcare.gov.

00:01:19.000 Because it's a giant scam and basically steals your data.

00:01:22.000 We told you this two weeks ago when it launched.

00:01:26.000 Any computer programmer could go and see that.

00:01:29.000 That it wasn't just broken, it was a fraud.

00:01:31.000 The truth is, they don't want to implement the so-called freebie parts of it, and they never will.

00:01:38.000 They're only going to implement the tax part, where you get $5,000 fines and more, when you can't sign up for it.

00:01:46.000 So the goal is that you not be able to sign up for it, and then it just becomes something like the Israeli-Palestinian peace process.

00:01:54.000 It just turns into this new system of where healthcare is all screwed up and costs more, and the insurance companies can do whatever they want.

00:02:02.000 They're the same ones that screwed up healthcare.

00:02:04.000 The big ones.

00:02:06.000 And who wrote it to shut down their competition?

00:02:08.000 And who wrote it to lower the quality of care?

00:02:10.000 It doesn't matter.

00:02:12.000 The lottery ticket crowd, and I'm not saying you're a bad person.

00:02:16.000 We buy a lottery ticket for fun and it's something you like to do for the suspense or whatever that, you know, you might be struck by a meteorite when you sit there and tune in and watch the show because you've got about as good a chance of winning a big lottery as being, you know, hit by a meteorite or struck by lightning three times in one year.

00:02:32.000 In fact, the only thing that's more rare than winning a major lottery is being struck by a meteorite.

00:02:36.000 So you actually have a better chance of winning the lottery.

00:02:38.000 It's true.

00:02:39.000 But it's that same mentality of folks that really think, well, it doesn't matter if I got big bills and I'm going bankrupt.

00:02:47.000 I'm going to go take my entire welfare check and I'm going to go fence it for cash so I can go buy $500 worth of lottery tickets.

00:02:58.000 And then you go buy your $500 worth of lottery tickets and you sit there desperately and you don't win anything.

00:03:06.000 Or you go buy the other type of scratch-off stuff and you spend $500 and you win $300.

00:03:11.000 But still feel like you won $300, even though you lost $200.

00:03:14.000 That mindset is what they're counting on.

00:03:17.000 People are just going to clamor, and they're not going to get mad and say, we don't want Obamacare now.

00:03:22.000 They're going to say, do whatever you got to do to make it work.

00:03:25.000 And anybody that's against Obamacare, you're the ones now messing it up.

00:03:30.000 And I told you this was coming.

00:03:34.000 Obama says that it's been a big success.

00:03:36.000 We've got his Rose Garden speech coming up.

00:03:40.000 He's saying it's been a big success and he's blamed the problems with it on the government shutdown.

00:03:47.000 I told you that was coming.

00:03:49.000 I just don't know how their brain works.

00:03:51.000 In fact, before they were even saying any of this, I said last week, I said, you watch.

00:03:56.000 They are going to blame this on the government shutdown, even though healthcare.gov came out right before it.

00:04:06.000 Up on DrugsReport.com, emergency surgery.

00:04:10.000 Obama calls in techies for the fix.

00:04:12.000 Best and brightest drafted.

00:04:14.000 Like a Manhattan Project.

00:04:16.000 SOS.

00:04:16.000 Hospitals face whole new world.

00:04:18.000 Sebelius is on the run.

00:04:19.000 Won't go to Congress to testify.

00:04:22.000 Five million lines of software code need to be rewritten?

00:04:25.000 Yeah, it's literally like they had monkeys on PCP at typewriters and they're writing the code.

00:04:30.000 I mean, we've gone and done articles about it showing the code.

00:04:35.000 It's like that weird computer speak that doesn't mean anything, just random, just, here, yeah, pay me for the job, here it is.

00:04:43.000 A monkey with a typewriter could do a better job, literally.

00:04:48.000 Because you wouldn't laugh.

00:04:50.000 Five million lines of software code need to be rewritten.

00:04:53.000 Credibility death spiral.

00:04:55.000 Consumer reports stay away from healthcare.gov.

00:04:58.000 Enrollees pose with President Rosegarden.

00:05:00.000 Some lady fell over.

00:05:02.000 Obama late to his own presser on Obama glitches.

00:05:04.000 Blames it on shutdown.

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00:08:29.000 Live from the Infowars.com studios, it's Alex Jones.

00:08:34.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it is Monday, the 21st day of October, 23rd.

00:08:45.000 I am Alex Jones, your host.

00:08:49.000 We're going to be live here for the next three hours, Lord willing.

00:08:53.000 Greg Powless, investigative journalist with ABC News.

00:08:56.000 BBC, you name it, will be joining us to give you intel on the government shutdown, on the banker bailouts, on what's happening in Europe, what's happening with QAE Unlimited, and the dollar news too hot for even the BBC and Newsnight.

00:09:13.000 So he'll be joining us at the bottom of the next hour.

00:09:17.000 Then we are going to be joined in studio by the one, the only, John McAfee.

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00:09:26.000 Both those gentlemen are going to be joining us today.

00:09:28.000 Palus via Skype, McAfee in studio, coming to Austin to visit with me.

00:09:34.000 So I look forward to that, getting his take on the whole world, the NSA, his adventures, getting back into the United States, and so much more.

00:09:44.000 And his take on HealthCare.gov's failure.

00:09:46.000 All of it.

00:09:47.000 By the way, the best coverage out there, bar none, on what's happening with HealthCare.gov and the death spiral, as it's being called, of credibility for Obozo and his miscreant followers is at DrugsReport.com.

00:10:06.000 Emergency surgery.

00:10:08.000 Obama just completed a Rose Garden speech and some woman collapsed.

00:10:13.000 Obama calls in techies for the fix, calling it a new Manhattan Project to get it repaired.

00:10:19.000 Well, you can't fix what was designed to be broken.

00:10:24.000 Best and brightest drafted, emergency SOS issued, hospitals Face whole new world under Obamacare.

00:10:33.000 Sebelius will not testify before Congress, even though she's been ordered to appear.

00:10:37.000 Five million lines of software code needs to be rewritten.

00:10:40.000 We've had software engineers on two and a half weeks ago who showed copies of the code on TV for our radio listeners.

00:10:48.000 And they can always go to InfoWars.com forward slash show and see the free video feed.

00:10:53.000 But we actually showed the code in articles on InfoWars.com that Mike Adams first broke from NaturalNews.com dealing with this, where it was designed to not work.

00:11:04.000 It wasn't just bad code, it was gibberish.

00:11:07.000 It was just having 14 monkeys chained up to word processors, feeding them a mixture of PCP, Mountain Dew, and Hot Pockets, and methamphetamine, just wildly typing.

00:11:23.000 I mean, they didn't say, all work and no play, Max Jackadawboy.

00:11:28.000 Over and over again, all work and no play, makes Jack a dull boy.

00:11:31.000 I mean, that would have at least said something, even though it was said hundreds and hundreds of times in The Shining.

00:11:37.000 No, no, no, I mean, that at least made some sense, at least it did to me.

00:11:41.000 But the point is, is that we're dealing with Monkeys on PCP and Mountain Dew, chained up, typing this as a complete joke on everyone.

00:11:51.000 And now they can take six months, a year, whatever, to quote, make it work.

00:11:55.000 And by then, you'll just be accustomed to the fact that you now just have to pay giant fines if you don't have the original health care system, and that the insurance companies are allowed to double the premiums on you, bare minimum, while lowering the type of care you get, and then getting rid of original charity care.

00:12:16.000 That's why 15 years ago they phased out Do No Harm, the Hippocratic Oath of Medicine, because now it's exterminate people as fast as possible for the New World Order, kill one granny, hire 10 teachers, a la Bill Gates, a la The Case for Killing Granny, Newsweek cover.

00:12:33.000 So, I told you, this is the plan, and this is how pirates operate, and believe me, they are laughing intensely over this right now, because the lottery ticket mentality of the Obozo followers clearly states that The law of the lottery ticket purchaser.

00:12:56.000 And again, I'm not saying you're bad if you buy an occasional lottery ticket just for fun or as a diversion.

00:13:00.000 But people that really think that's their business plan in life is they're going to win a big multi-million dollar lottery.

00:13:06.000 Again, they've got a better chance of finding a leprechaun with a pot of gold at the end of it.

00:13:12.000 Or maybe a unicorn in their backyard.

00:13:14.000 I mean, this is ridiculous.

00:13:16.000 They are going to now defend the program even more and say that anyone that criticizes it, you're the ones keeping them from their goody.

00:13:24.000 Because vicious offshore banks that run giant death camp operations in China with suicide nets, they're liberal and trendy, and these big megabanks that wrote The Obozo Care, they really love poor Americans, even though they set up total slave grids worldwide.

00:13:41.000 In this exception, they really want to give you something free because they care about you and want to take long walks down forest paths with you and kiss you all day.

00:13:51.000 They're not predators.

00:13:52.000 They're not vicious.

00:13:53.000 You didn't get scammed.

00:13:54.000 You didn't get had.

00:13:55.000 Those of us that don't like Obamacare, and we're right about it, we're the bad men.

00:14:00.000 And indeed, that's now being said.

00:14:01.000 Obozo said during his press conference that the glitches are due to the government shutdown and that it's quote, a really good deal and wait, it gets better.

00:14:15.000 He just finished his speech a few minutes ago.

00:14:16.000 We're going to get this clip.

00:14:18.000 This is the best part.

00:14:21.000 Exceeding expectations, oh yes.

00:14:24.000 And actually it is.

00:14:26.000 It actually is exceeding expectations in a big way because they've been able to already more than double the average premium and more than triple the average deductible from around $2,000 to around $6,400.

00:14:42.000 So it is exceeding the expectation of the raping the American people with a giant red-hot poker while pouring acid over your head.

00:14:52.000 I mean, yes, it is a great deal.

00:14:55.000 Kind of like when Al Gore on Larry King Live back in 1993 said, Larry, this is a good deal.

00:15:03.000 Don't listen to Ross Perot.

00:15:05.000 NAFTA and GAD will raise our wages.

00:15:09.000 Which actually have gone down, not just via inflation, but literal wages, according to 1993 numbers, are down compared to that date, just in cold hard cash.

00:15:23.000 But see, Al Gore, Al Gore, Al Gore, he said it was a good deal.

00:15:34.000 And the unions all signed on to it because they like Democrats.

00:15:38.000 How did that go for you, Naftan Gad?

00:15:42.000 I couldn't laugh.

00:15:43.000 I'm just sorry.

00:15:44.000 I was actually out there right before the show started in the coffee room and he was up on television and I heard him say that.

00:15:51.000 I heard him say that it's exceeded expectations and as he looked back and forth at the teleprompter and I just cannot handle it anymore with this group of morons surrounding him all getting off on being near the president.

00:16:04.000 I mean I just cannot imagine it.

00:16:07.000 Excuse me, I'm kind of...

00:16:09.000 I'm having a meltdown here of my own.

00:16:10.000 Obama healthcare website.

00:16:12.000 Problems inexcusable though, but the healthcare deal itself is exceeding expectations and is a good deal.

00:16:20.000 And he's hiring an emergency team to get in there and fix it as soon as they can.

00:16:26.000 And if we don't stand up to these folks, they'll be having health care summits ten years from now, like the Middle Eastern-Israeli-Palestinian peace process.

00:16:36.000 Total diversion.

00:16:37.000 There is no peace process.

00:16:39.000 It's just a way to keep it going off into the future as part of a fake process forever.

00:16:43.000 And this is the same thing.

00:16:44.000 The bill is a success, just like the drug war is a success for the big six banks that launder 500 billion North American dollars a year.

00:16:52.000 Over a trillion worldwide, controlling the narcotics trade, owning the aircraft, funding the mercenaries, loaning them the money for the arms.

00:17:01.000 It's an incredible success having the biggest prison population in the world, filled with non-violent offenders, working for the big narcotics cartels and the banks that own the private prisons.

00:17:11.000 The drug war is a smashing, total, absolute, devastator success for the crime syndicates, who also run the child kidnapping rings and other things on the side, publicly.

00:17:21.000 So, big success there.

00:17:24.000 Obamacare is a devastating success.

00:17:27.000 Obama is a devastating success for the New World Order, crushing the Lemmings, crushing the American people, shutting down the power plants, federalizing the schools, trying to open the borders up, legalizing the illegals to drive down wages by fiat.

00:17:42.000 He's just devastating the Republic right now.

00:17:44.000 But he'll be called a failure and fade off into the distance.

00:17:47.000 But it won't matter.

00:17:48.000 He would have gotten his job done.

00:17:50.000 So, hats off to Obama if you love the New World Order and are rooting for the 6,000 globalist superclass.

00:17:57.000 So, emergency surgery.

00:17:59.000 Oh my gosh.

00:18:00.000 Like in Hellraiser when one of the guys is going to do surgery on somebody.

00:18:03.000 He wants to help you.

00:18:05.000 Emergency, or kind of like the Manson clan, did surgery on Sharon Tate.

00:18:10.000 Yes, they're going to do special surgery.

00:18:14.000 Obama calls in techies for the fix.

00:18:17.000 Best and brightest drafted.

00:18:19.000 SOS.

00:18:20.000 Hospitals face whole new world as the whole healthcare system is wrecked.

00:18:24.000 Sebelius on the run.

00:18:26.000 Five million lines of software code needed to be rewritten.

00:18:30.000 So, chimpanzees rewriting it didn't work, so now they're gonna bring in orangutans.

00:18:34.000 Credibility death spiral?

00:18:36.000 No, no.

00:18:39.000 Consumer Reports, stay away from healthcare.gov.

00:18:42.000 It's an identity theft operation.

00:18:44.000 Oh, really?

00:18:45.000 Really?

00:18:46.000 I didn't know that.

00:18:47.000 Oh, trendy though.

00:18:50.000 Continuing, enrollees pose with President in Rose Garden.

00:18:54.000 Obama late to his own presser on Obama glitches.

00:18:57.000 He blames the glitches on shutdown.

00:18:59.000 It's a good deal.

00:19:00.000 I mean, you just cannot make up how thoroughly disgusting it is.

00:19:04.000 And then right below it is an InfoWars.com article.

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00:19:16.000 And Mark dies very clearly to people that speak good English.

00:19:20.000 You know, people with American accents says we're going to take the rights and set up Nazi Germany in America.

00:19:25.000 For Obama.

00:19:27.000 And if it's for Obama, well then absolutely Heil Hitler.

00:19:30.000 That's what I've always explained here.

00:19:32.000 I mean, it's like Schwarzenegger can say he loves Kurt Voltheimann, loves Hitler, and loves the SS in Rolling Stone interviews and on video, and it's fine.

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00:19:56.000 But Arnold Schwarzenegger is a Nazi and that's good.

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00:24:49.000 Remember last week when one of the stenographers got up and she started giving a speech about how they were men of the devil and Freemasons and all this stuff?

00:24:59.000 Well, it turns out there's this video that Watson posted up on InfoWars.com of her being totally normal and some guy talking to her and then she goes into what looks like a trance, like a robot, and then marches in to give the speech and take over.

00:25:14.000 Very, very bizarre.

00:25:15.000 Top Democrat opens door for Social Security cuts.

00:25:19.000 Told you that was coming.

00:25:20.000 They're not going to let the baby boomers get the Social Security, folks.

00:25:24.000 I mean, come on.

00:25:25.000 They're going to phase it out.

00:25:26.000 They've done it in every country.

00:25:28.000 They follow the same program to get you domesticated, get you socialized.

00:25:32.000 You'll end up, maybe, if you're retiring in the next few years, by the time you die at 76 on average, say if you retire at 65, you might get half your money.

00:25:45.000 But let's continue.

00:25:46.000 Americans to sign petition to support Nazi-style Orwellian police state.

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00:25:52.000 We have photos of the protest against pro-gun rally in San Antonio.

00:25:58.000 Gets virtually no participants.

00:25:59.000 I think max five people.

00:26:01.000 Looked like four to me.

00:26:03.000 Twelve shocking clues about what America will look like when the next great economic crisis strikes.

00:26:08.000 Healthcare.gov running on hope and change.

00:26:11.000 You mean running on BS and lies?

00:26:14.000 Report, massive vulnerability detected in national power grid.

00:26:19.000 There is no way to stop it.

00:26:20.000 Very important.

00:26:20.000 Mark, a Slavo article.

00:26:22.000 That's just some of the news up on Infowars.com.

00:26:26.000 But look at this political correctness article I'm going to get to in a moment from DrudgeReport.com.

00:26:30.000 I'm going to cover it in just a second.

00:26:32.000 First off, let me give the number out for everybody who wants to talk about Obamacare.

00:26:37.000 And have you been able to sign up for it?

00:26:38.000 We're talking about that.

00:26:39.000 That's what I'm opening the phones up for.

00:26:40.000 I want to hear from you.

00:26:43.000 Has your premium gone down?

00:26:44.000 No one I know says their premium's gone down.

00:26:47.000 Everyone I know says it's doubled.

00:26:48.000 Everyone I know says at least a doubling.

00:26:51.000 From Geraldo Rivera to myself, our insurance is doubling.

00:26:57.000 And it's set to double again in the next couple years.

00:27:01.000 That is a very affordable care act.

00:27:04.000 See how the name's a big joke?

00:27:06.000 Remember Obama in the State of the Union said, don't worry, you don't like the TSA groping you?

00:27:11.000 The body scanners are going to be able to go on trains.

00:27:13.000 Then he laughed, and Biden laughed behind him, because they knew they had just rolled out groping stations at the train stations.

00:27:21.000 See, it's all about pimping you.

00:27:24.000 Gaming you.

00:27:25.000 It's all about the big joke with these guys.

00:27:28.000 It's all about being disloyal, being gangsterish.

00:27:32.000 And so that happened.

00:27:34.000 I want to get your take on this.

00:27:36.000 We've already broken down two and a half weeks ago, the computer code when it went live, 17 days ago, was a fraud.

00:27:44.000 It just isn't real.

00:27:46.000 It's fake.

00:27:47.000 And they know that.

00:27:48.000 It doesn't have glitches, folks.

00:27:50.000 It isn't there.

00:27:52.000 It's there to grab your data.

00:27:54.000 And it's come out in the news, it's piped to the NSA, they can see where it's routed.

00:27:57.000 Of course they're going to use the NSA, that's the big servers.

00:28:00.000 And so you're just at an NSA database giving them data.

00:28:03.000 But of course the government couldn't even do that right, so the building keeps catching on fire, with power surges blowing up the billion-dollar computer systems.

00:28:13.000 The building literally keeps having fires every day.

00:28:18.000 Talk about a cursed Tower of Babel.

00:28:20.000 I want to get your take on this.

00:28:22.000 800-259-9231.

00:28:22.000 And if you're an ObamaCare supporter, I would like to hear from you as well.

00:28:30.000 Let me give the number out for you.

00:28:31.000 You called in last week and told us you don't care.

00:28:40.000 You think you'll get it free down the road.

00:28:41.000 So it doesn't matter if it wrecks everything.

00:28:43.000 You still think Obama loves you.

00:28:45.000 I understand.

00:28:46.000 You're like a three-year-old that gets in the car because the man says he has a puppy and candy.

00:28:51.000 Of course, really, he traps you down and tortures you and rapes you for six weeks before killing you.

00:28:55.000 I mean, he just can't help.

00:28:56.000 But you're not like a three-year-old, folks.

00:28:59.000 I mean, you've got to be smarter than that.

00:29:00.000 But I know, I understand you want to get hurt and hurt bad.

00:29:03.000 I understand.

00:29:04.000 Racial slur.

00:29:06.000 Government blocks Asian-American band from trademarking The Slants.

00:29:12.000 And they made a big deal out of it saying that they're reclaiming the term, the argument worked for dykes on bikes.

00:29:19.000 It's a reference to musical chords.

00:29:22.000 That's what I thought.

00:29:23.000 I'm not even a musical person.

00:29:24.000 They surveyed Asian Americans and said they didn't find it offensive.

00:29:27.000 They had Duke University linguists analyze the words.

00:29:30.000 They made a big stunt out of it as well.

00:29:33.000 And they say, well, you're not allowed to have that.

00:29:34.000 Folks, you understand the tyranny of this?

00:29:37.000 If they say Davy Crockett's racist, next, you can't trademark that.

00:29:40.000 The government should just give it to you if it's not used by somebody else first.

00:29:44.000 The government shouldn't be bringing in this type of tyranny.

00:29:47.000 So they're just teaching you out there that you have no free speech, you can't do business in this country.

00:29:52.000 That's what this is really about.

00:29:54.000 This is authoritarianism.

00:29:56.000 Now, if you want to abort black babies, that's fine, but... We're on the march.

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00:33:34.000 From the front lines of the Information War, it's Alex Jones!

00:33:39.000 Take me live!

00:33:39.000 What we are looking at is good and evil... Right and wrong!

00:33:42.000 The New World Order!

00:33:46.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

00:34:12.000 Thank you for joining us on this Monday transmission.

00:34:17.000 Your phone calls are coming up.

00:34:18.000 By the way, I told you I've been doing deep research into water fluoridation and how it began in the 1920s in the first gulag set up by Lenin and then Stalin and how Hitler, during the Russian-German pact that they had to split up Poland, was advised on how to put bromine And sodium fluoride in the water.

00:34:44.000 And of course, that had actually come from England and the U.S.

00:34:46.000 where they would give kids bromine and other pills.

00:34:51.000 And now I'm pulling up all the mainstream articles I've actually been able to pull up.

00:34:54.000 We're putting a commercial together for the iodine we sell.

00:34:57.000 Actually showing magazine ads from 1910, 1912 are the ones we found advertising these different Bromine fluoride pills that you would give people who were hyperactive or who were upset or kids that weren't doing what you're told.

00:35:16.000 It would turn them into zombies, basically.

00:35:18.000 And I actually found a medical report on this, an actual medical paper by Guy E. Abraham, medical doctor, breaking down this program.

00:35:30.000 I want to show TV viewers this.

00:35:31.000 I'm going to go to your phone calls.

00:35:33.000 Here it is on page 20.

00:35:36.000 Of this study, uh, quotes a bunch of studies, uh, this medical paper, therefore bromine has a zombifying potential.

00:35:42.000 Why iodine was replaced with G-O-I-T-O-R-G-E-N, possessing carcinogenic and zombifying potentials in a population already very iodine deficient, even by very low RDA standard remains a mystery.

00:35:59.000 Nevertheless, it is very effective way to keep a nation sick and zombified.

00:36:03.000 This is a medical paper.

00:36:05.000 This is from 2004, but I've got papers from 1890s and 1920 and all of it.

00:36:14.000 And then of course, so now I've learned it's not just in Pulitzer Prize winning books about World War II.

00:36:19.000 Two of them.

00:36:21.000 It's also, and the Nuremberg trials, this was old technology being used in England and the United States.

00:36:27.000 You'd go to the local drug store, the apothecary, and say, my kids are not doing what I tell them, they're jumping around, whatever, and they'd say, just give them these pills.

00:36:37.000 And then you would give them to people to make them behave.

00:36:40.000 And they would also put other chemicals, like saltpeter, until the fifties on young people at camp in the summer.

00:36:50.000 when you had boys and girls camps together so they wouldn't have sex I mean this is a whole chemical weapons program and I know that I know it and you know it but I mean it's all documented mainline history why they put bromine and fluoride in the water they're all in the same let me show folks periodic table right here the halides discovery chronological order chloride was found in Chloride was found in 1809 in France.

00:37:20.000 Iodine was found in France in 1811.

00:37:23.000 Bromide was found in France in 1826.

00:37:25.000 Fluoride was found in France in 1886.

00:37:27.000 And they discovered another halide in the U.S.

00:37:31.000 Fluoride was found in France in 1826.

00:37:35.000 Fluoride was found in France in 1886.

00:37:42.000 And they discovered another halide in the US in 19-- or statin.

00:37:47.000 Yeah.

00:37:48.000 A statin.

00:37:50.000 But the point is you can see these on the periodic table, basically.

00:37:54.000 And you notice now they're wanting to put the statins in the water.

00:37:58.000 Ladies and gentlemen, this is a chemical warfare operation.

00:38:01.000 And I know we know that.

00:38:02.000 I always mention it, but I never show it anymore.

00:38:04.000 Will you go give me that eco-science over there real quick?

00:38:07.000 You guys can walk in front of the cameras.

00:38:08.000 It's fine.

00:38:08.000 Thank you.

00:38:10.000 You can read from 1974 when they published it, the White House science czar talking about it.

00:38:18.000 And you realize that no wonder Americans can't resist anything.

00:38:23.000 No wonder people act like zombies and we have a lower IQ and lower brain waves.

00:38:28.000 Thank you.

00:38:29.000 We have been hit by chemical warfare.

00:38:32.000 By the way, this book was selling for like $10 on eBay and places until I started plugging it five years ago.

00:38:40.000 Talking about it.

00:38:40.000 So it was in selling for thousands in some cases.

00:38:43.000 There's no need to buy an original.

00:38:45.000 The whole thing's been scanned in by major universities and is online.

00:38:49.000 Ecoscience, population, resources and environment.

00:38:53.000 And this was adopted by the early 80s as official U.S.

00:38:57.000 government policy.

00:38:58.000 So just like State Department Morandom 200 was.

00:39:03.000 So I would suggest That's one weird thing about having a big syndicated radio show.

00:39:09.000 I can, like, make any book I want.

00:39:11.000 If it's a rare book, super rare.

00:39:13.000 That was not our intention.

00:39:14.000 It's just we've noticed that happens.

00:39:16.000 But here's eco-science.

00:39:17.000 You can read the whole thing free online.

00:39:19.000 Paul R. Ehrlich, who says reduce the population by 90%, his wife, Annie Ehrlich, and John P. Holdren.

00:39:29.000 And the point is, you can argue there's too many people.

00:39:33.000 But the issue is they're doing it to everybody, and they're trying to reduce population in the most advanced nations, and then they're trying to block development in the third world, which would actually reduce third world populations.

00:39:44.000 But at a manageable, happy level, where, you know, the average person has like 1.3 kids, like every other industrialized country.

00:39:51.000 Then you've actually got a problem of collapse of civilization.

00:39:54.000 We need 2.1.

00:39:55.000 That's sustainable.

00:39:56.000 Once you build a civilization this big, if you don't have sustainable numbers, all the statistics and actuaries show, you have collapse of society.

00:40:05.000 But that's why they're building in 2021 to create that artificial collapse.

00:40:09.000 But it's going to be quite hellish where you don't have enough people to take care of the old folks.

00:40:15.000 By the way, there are less people in the West by about 1.4.

00:40:18.000 For every two baby boomers born, there's about 1.4 on average.

00:40:23.000 If you average in Japan, Italy, Germany, the U.S., Canada, all the industrialized nations, there's about 1.4.

00:40:29.000 Some places are as low as 1.2, but about 1.4 on average.

00:40:32.000 You need 2.1 just to take care of the old people.

00:40:36.000 Every two parents have 2.1 children in the average.

00:40:40.000 At 1.4, they're going to euthanize all of you.

00:40:44.000 So, just be ready.

00:40:46.000 And then folks that are my age, I'm already now 40, 40 in a couple months, they're going to euthanize my butt.

00:40:52.000 It doesn't matter how much money I got, it doesn't matter.

00:40:54.000 If I'm not an insider, I'm not going to get life extension, none of it.

00:40:58.000 And none of you are as well, you yuppies out there that think you're part of the power structure because you can go to some Obama event or some Republican event and have them pat you on the head.

00:41:05.000 All right, I said I'd go to your phone calls.

00:41:07.000 My point is, is that we've sold out of the most amazing nascent iodine out there.

00:41:13.000 The consumer reviews are coming in.

00:41:15.000 We're going to be doing some articles on those soon.

00:41:16.000 People are blown away by it.

00:41:18.000 This stuff, on record, you can see all the details and facts at Infowarslife.com, is a shield against the fluoride, the bromide, the bromine, the garbage, a detoxifier, and a shield against new fluoride.

00:41:31.000 It is survival shield.

00:41:33.000 And it's the only proprietary nascent iodine.

00:41:34.000 You know, when I had my dad look into this about three months ago, when I looked into manufacturing it myself, from the only lab in the country that can do it, who put out small amounts, He went and he said, my gosh, this is the National Federation of Scientists and all these special certifications and some special machine, the only one in the country, and my goodness, this is special stuff because I had him doing due diligence and everything because he's a...

00:41:57.000 Oral surgeon and a dentist and also has a degree in biology, has also developed patented drugs separately.

00:42:05.000 And he said, man, this stuff is something else.

00:42:06.000 This isn't regular iodine.

00:42:08.000 And so that's the point I'm getting across to you folks.

00:42:10.000 We only bring you the most amazing stuff.

00:42:12.000 The problem is, is that They are having to expand, and they're done now, they put it in, a bigger bottling system, they had to have a bunch of zoning stuff done, and a bunch of inspectors, and you know, just had the FDA back in for it and everything, to crank up, to produce enough to be able to supply everybody.

00:42:31.000 So, they're making it right now, it'll be here in about two weeks.

00:42:34.000 If you want to be first in line to get the most amazing nascent iodine out there, this is it folks, true atomic iodine.

00:42:42.000 The thyroid and so much more, and then it supercharges according to all the experts we've had on all the other natural hormone levels.

00:42:48.000 My only problem is, and everybody's noticed it, I am literally crazed now.

00:42:55.000 I have, like, double the energy.

00:42:57.000 Folks, do I have double the energy?

00:43:01.000 No, no, obviously not twice the craziness, but no, I mean, I'm just supercharged.

00:43:05.000 Well, I mean, go ahead and come on air, CJ.

00:43:09.000 How have I been the last two months on this?

00:43:12.000 You've been more aware, more fast-paced, quick to notice things you didn't previously.

00:43:20.000 Yeah, it's incredible.

00:43:21.000 And that's exactly what Dr. Group said.

00:43:23.000 But anyways, we'll see what happens for you out there.

00:43:25.000 Your vision's been sharper.

00:43:26.000 You see things you don't normally notice.

00:43:28.000 We can't keep anything from you.

00:43:30.000 Are you on air saying all that?

00:43:31.000 Yes.

00:43:34.000 Anyways, the point is that I'm telling you folks, they don't want you to be healthy.

00:43:42.000 They put bromine and fluoride in the stinking water and food to turn you into a zombie.

00:43:47.000 I can't imagine what I would be like if I had not been exposed to fluoride most of my life.

00:43:53.000 And had had proper levels of iodine.

00:43:55.000 I guess I've always ate a lot of red meat.

00:43:57.000 My mom's always used gourmet salt.

00:43:59.000 And tried to always get organic food.

00:44:00.000 So I guess I've had a leg up.

00:44:02.000 Even though I've done a lot of bad things to my lifestyle as well.

00:44:05.000 I didn't mean to go off into a long plug.

00:44:07.000 Infowarslife.com or 888-253-3139.

00:44:13.000 They have a patented on-record way at the laboratory we use to make this stuff, and it's the first of a long line of products we're developing.

00:44:19.000 The problem is, is they were waiting for one thing from the Himalayas that comes out of the rocks.

00:44:24.000 I've been waiting like three months for this giant purchase of that to come in, just to mix it with this detox thing we're coming out with.

00:44:30.000 I mean, we could just throw stuff in a bottle and sell it, but I'm not going to do that.

00:44:33.000 I am going to promote the best stuff out there that is revolutionary against the globalist.

00:44:38.000 So again, InfoWarsLife.com or 888-253-3139.

00:44:41.000 Enough of me!

00:44:42.000 I want to get into Obamacare.

00:44:44.000 If you want to read that study, it's the safe and effective implementation of ortho-dose supplementation.

00:44:56.000 Am I pronouncing that right?

00:44:57.000 The safe and effective implementation of ortho-dose supplementation in medical practice.

00:45:03.000 Is that right?

00:45:05.000 By Doctor... How do you say it?

00:45:09.000 Ortha Iota?

00:45:10.000 Richard Reeves brought me this study because he was digging around through all these studies about how they would shell stuff in drugstores in the 1850s on to like give your kids to make them zombies so they'd behave.

00:45:23.000 They just said, hey, put it in the water for everybody.

00:45:26.000 All right, I'm sorry.

00:45:32.000 Here's some of the other news we've got and we're going to your calls.

00:45:34.000 Food stamps benefits going down before the holidays.

00:45:39.000 Millions of American families could face the sparse holiday table when food stamp benefits get reduced in November and that could be just part of a deeper cuts to the program to feed poor families.

00:45:49.000 The modern-day food stamp plan, now called the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program, is scheduled to scale back.

00:46:00.000 And it's got these women all on there.

00:46:02.000 Who I guess aren't going to be able to get food.

00:46:09.000 Look at those poor ladies.

00:46:10.000 Imagine if they had iodine.

00:46:12.000 I'm sorry.

00:46:13.000 It's just very sad.

00:46:14.000 And it just goes over the whole point that the SNAP program is going to be cut.

00:46:19.000 Because Obama's been re-elected now.

00:46:22.000 They've got to give those extra hundreds of billions to foreign banks.

00:46:25.000 So you're not going to be getting your food stamps.

00:46:27.000 So there you go.

00:46:28.000 But don't worry, Homeland Security with armored vehicles is standing by if you don't like it.

00:46:32.000 Let's go ahead.

00:46:33.000 See, they ship your jobs out, shut down the economy, raise the taxes on businesses so they can't hire you, and then you just become domesticated.

00:46:40.000 And look, these social engineers know.

00:46:41.000 That's why when you go to a park, they say don't feed the pigeons, don't feed the aquatic life, don't feed the squirrels because they'll become domesticated and won't be able to take care of themselves.

00:46:53.000 But when it comes to the general population, that's what they want.

00:46:57.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Beth in Tennessee.

00:46:59.000 Beth, give us your take on Obamacare and what you think of it.

00:47:01.000 Hi Alex.

00:47:04.000 Hi.

00:47:05.000 I think Obamacare is a rape of the American citizen.

00:47:11.000 Insurance for my husband and I have now gone up $600 for the year.

00:47:15.000 We have higher deductibles, higher copay, less treatment.

00:47:20.000 We're just Are you a racist?

00:47:24.000 Are you a racist?

00:47:29.000 Well ma'am, ma'am, you know if you criticize anything Obama does, you're a racist.

00:47:35.000 MSNBC said it.

00:47:36.000 Do you want to apologize for your racism?

00:47:38.000 I do not apologize.

00:47:40.000 I apologize that there aren't enough people in our country awake and they don't get rid of all of this crap that's going on.

00:47:48.000 I have a story and this is why I got on the phone with you today.

00:47:52.000 We listen every day.

00:47:53.000 Prison Planet.

00:47:55.000 Thank you, ma'am.

00:47:56.000 We have your magazine delivered.

00:47:58.000 We have the Pro-Pure filter.

00:47:59.000 We just got the iodine.

00:48:01.000 Thank you.

00:48:02.000 We do all of Dr. Wallach's drugs.

00:48:04.000 Anyway, er, not drugs.

00:48:05.000 Nutrients.

00:48:06.000 Well, nutrients are basically like drugs, yeah.

00:48:07.000 Well, I'm in prison for that.

00:48:08.000 No, no, no.

00:48:09.000 You take all of our racist stuff.

00:48:11.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:48:12.000 I know.

00:48:12.000 My husband and I are off work on Monday, so we went to the grocery store this morning.

00:48:17.000 They would neither one drink alcohol too much, but we were going down the aisle, saw the woodchuck fall hard cider with the nutmeg and whatnot, and I said, "Tom, I wanna get some of that." So we get to the checkout lane and I get carded.

00:48:31.000 And I said, "You know, this is an honor.

00:48:34.000 I haven't been carded since I was 21, 30 years ago." So she said, "Well, we can't finish this transaction until, you know, we get ID now." And so... Yeah, at first the feds started this telling corporations do it about a decade ago.

00:48:51.000 First they would just look at it.

00:48:52.000 Then they would enter the date of birth.

00:48:53.000 Now they swipe it and it's going into a health care database.

00:48:57.000 They're phasing it in.

00:48:58.000 Slave training.

00:48:59.000 Did she swipe your card?

00:49:02.000 I don't know.

00:49:03.000 No, no, no.

00:49:04.000 I've seen them as a test buying alcohol.

00:49:04.000 I've seen them.

00:49:06.000 They will swipe it and it's going into a database at the larger stores.

00:49:10.000 They're phasing it in.

00:49:11.000 And this is getting you ready for when you'll have to do that to buy and sell even when you use cash as part of the cashless society control grid.

00:49:19.000 Exactly.

00:49:20.000 It got me more upset and by the time we got home I said, do you suppose they swiped my card?

00:49:26.000 Well then this clerk proceeded to say that they now have the card for lighter fluid.

00:49:33.000 I said, you have got to be kidding me!

00:49:35.000 And she said, no, the government says that it's for use in drugs and they actually send government people in and pretend just so they make sure people Yeah, and again, there's no law, they started it with a suit of Fedrin, and then did pass state laws, but no, they're just doing it until everything, you're going to be carded for everything.

00:49:55.000 They admit, they have these big consortium meetings with all the big IT people and the digital biometrics companies, we've covered it on air, where they say, you're not just going to get carded in the future to buy and sell, you're going to have an implantable microchip.

00:50:09.000 This is official.

00:50:10.000 The head of Google came out and said you will soon have brain chips to use the phone.

00:50:16.000 I wanted to say something to our top military brass, active and retired, and anybody else in our federal agencies that have the power and the knowledge to know what's going on, so they can do what they need to do.

00:50:31.000 Racist.

00:50:31.000 And remove all of our politicians out.

00:50:34.000 Get them out of there.

00:50:35.000 Racist.

00:50:35.000 All of them.

00:50:36.000 Not one is worth anything, Alex.

00:50:39.000 We need to do something, and we will gather if those people... Well, I appreciate your call, Beth, but that's pretty racist.

00:50:45.000 Thank you.

00:50:47.000 Look, if you like family, if you like to own firearms, it's racist.

00:50:50.000 And I want to apologize for my racism as well.

00:50:52.000 I'm being sarcastic, of course.

00:50:54.000 This is authoritarianism.

00:50:56.000 They're taking over.

00:50:57.000 We better resist it now, or we can all become Walmartians and wander around Walmart drinking our Prozac.

00:51:04.000 We'll be right back with Jeffrey and many others straight ahead.

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00:54:38.000 There's a killer on the road.

00:54:41.000 There's a killer on the road.

00:54:43.000 I want to take a long holiday.

00:54:45.000 Let my children play.

00:54:47.000 Man, I just love that guy's voice.

00:54:51.000 long holiday day let your children play man I just love that guy's voice what about you if you give this man a ride sweet lamb he will die killer on the road his brain is squirming like a toad Let's go back to your phone calls here.

00:55:12.000 We do have Greg Pallas with breaking intel on the banker takeover of the planet, what's happening in Europe, the latest with the dollar, the QE, Unlimited, what the hedge fund hyenas are doing, investigative journalist, former top federal fraud investigator Greg Pallas will be joining us at the bottom of the next hour.

00:55:30.000 We're also going to have Mr. McAvee.

00:55:33.000 John McAfee, the guy.

00:55:36.000 We'll talk about the NSA and more in studio.

00:55:43.000 So that should be quite interesting to meet him in person.

00:55:45.000 He's arriving in about 45 minutes.

00:55:47.000 He's already here in Austin.

00:55:48.000 Ismad in Minnesota.

00:55:49.000 Then we'll talk to Chris, George, Jeffrey, and others.

00:55:52.000 What is your take on Obamacare?

00:55:58.000 Oh, you mean Obamacare, sir?

00:56:01.000 What, uh, did you say, uh, gang raping the Obamacare or, uh, what did you say?

00:56:08.000 Oh yeah, Obamacare.

00:56:09.000 Oh, booger care.

00:56:10.000 I couldn't tell what you were saying.

00:56:12.000 Yeah, uh, my M- my M.A.

00:56:13.000 went up by double, I believe.

00:56:15.000 I took a look at it just today.

00:56:16.000 I had to go out and get my bank statement.

00:56:18.000 By the way, don't worry, they say it's going to double again because it's affordable care.

00:56:23.000 I already, well, yeah, I already know it is.

00:56:26.000 I heard somebody else say on, I think it was your radio show, that, no, it was Coast to Coast AM, that whatever they say in something like that, always think the opposite.

00:56:39.000 Well, no, that's what the character Winston Smith in 1984 did.

00:56:45.000 In fact, the British used to actually say that, don't believe anything until it's been officially denied.

00:56:50.000 This morning I saw about 75 motorcycle cops on the way into home.

00:56:55.000 Standing there, bugging their eyes out at people, making the roads slow down, but then acting like traffic cops.

00:57:01.000 So I rolled by one at one mile an hour and I said, what's going on?

00:57:04.000 And he said, don't worry about it!

00:57:07.000 I thought I was in New York City.

00:57:09.000 Don't worry about it.

00:57:11.000 Nobody's going to worry about that guy's pension either.

00:57:11.000 Hey, you know what?

00:57:13.000 You know, we have this attitude of where, I mean, how do you get an Austin cop?

00:57:17.000 Because they're not bad compared to a lot of cities I've been in.

00:57:20.000 Mixed in with Travis County Sheriff's deputies, whatever they were doing out on 290.

00:57:24.000 How do you get them to the point of bugging their eyes out and getting mad at someone if you politely say, hey, what's going on?

00:57:32.000 And the cops, there's two of them, just their mouths hung up and they went... It's like we went to the NSA to talk to their PR person.

00:57:42.000 Their mouths were hanging up and it's like, you just talk to me?

00:57:46.000 That's going to be a death sentence soon, bud.

00:57:50.000 Because we're so free.

00:57:52.000 But I guess you've got a fluoride-headed population so they're used to that.

00:57:55.000 The average public I see when they see a cop they look like a dog that's scared.

00:57:58.000 They almost roll over on their back and start peeing on themselves.

00:58:01.000 So I would expect then that I guess cops just get used to that and think of us as like lowly worm-like creatures.

00:58:08.000 Though I did run into a lot of cool cops down in San Antonio this weekend.

00:58:11.000 Anything else, sir?

00:58:12.000 Anything else racist you'd like to say?

00:58:14.000 I think calling foreign bank-run rape care meant to rob everyone and a lower standard of care and wreck our health care system is racist to call it booger care.

00:58:24.000 Do you want to apologize to boogers?

00:58:28.000 Yeah, I'm so sorry, boogers.

00:58:29.000 I didn't mean to actually have an opinion that wasn't given to me by the media, a.k.a.

00:58:34.000 the meat.

00:58:35.000 But here's something else I want to say real quick, Mr. Jones.

00:58:37.000 Go ahead, racist.

00:58:38.000 Go ahead, racist.

00:58:40.000 Yes, uh, we, uh, the United States of America is... Your phone's breaking up, racist.

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01:00:04.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:07.000 Big Brother.

01:00:14.000 Mainstream media.

01:00:16.000 Government cover-ups.

01:00:19.000 You want answers?

01:00:20.000 Well, so does he.

01:00:22.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:26.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:30.000 Our republic is in the midst of a foreign corporate takeover.

01:00:41.000 The federal government's been almost completely captured.

01:00:44.000 Our military, trained to recognize things like that, is waking up because they see it.

01:00:49.000 They're being forced to train to take on gun owners, libertarians, turning veterans.

01:00:53.000 So that's the good news.

01:00:55.000 The bad news is that the globalists are just moving forward.

01:00:59.000 They're now destroying the already damaged healthcare system, as we predicted, as was planned.

01:01:03.000 They've done this other places.

01:01:06.000 And just preparing everyone to learn that they don't get free health care because the computer didn't work.

01:01:10.000 I mean, it's just all about a giant scam.

01:01:13.000 And we predicted this would happen.

01:01:14.000 I mean, it's not like we're rocket scientists.

01:01:16.000 We know the enemy we fight.

01:01:19.000 And as soon as the public realizes they've been conned, and just how much trouble we're in, we can begin to dig ourselves out of this.

01:01:27.000 The problem is the average Homeland Security personnel have been hand-picked, psychologically tested, to be imperious.

01:01:32.000 In fact, in the Homeland Security ads that we've covered, they say, are you imperious?

01:01:39.000 Meaning domineering, hateful towards the public?

01:01:42.000 Well, then we want you.

01:01:43.000 And they tell them that's how you project confidences.

01:01:46.000 Swagger around in judge dread outfits, bugging your eyes out at people.

01:01:52.000 So while BozoCare is falling apart, Right now, let's just go back to your calls.

01:02:00.000 Chris in Nevada, you're on the air.

01:02:02.000 Welcome.

01:02:02.000 Thank you for holding.

01:02:03.000 Hey Alex, how you doing?

01:02:06.000 I'm doing pretty good, brother.

01:02:07.000 Hey, I'm the one that you told me that the military soft killed me.

01:02:11.000 I was the fella that told you that the military moved a lot of my bow like 15 feet and you told me they soft killed me.

01:02:18.000 I got, now I have six months of tangy tangerine that I use to keep myself going.

01:02:25.000 But, the reason for my call was, is I read an article a couple weeks back, and it was an op-ed where a fella had reported that all these people with these computer glitches, thinking that they're getting into the Obamacare, well one of the things they give you, or you give, is your social security number.

01:02:44.000 And lo and behold, all these people who think they got their Obamacare with the glitch, Are going to get the penalty slapped on them immediately.

01:02:52.000 Oh, no, no, no.

01:02:53.000 And that's why it's there.

01:02:54.000 No, no, no.

01:02:54.000 That's what Mike Adams said two and a half weeks ago.

01:02:57.000 And it's now confirmed.

01:02:58.000 And that's why Consumer Reports has come out and said, don't be part of it.

01:03:01.000 Exactly.

01:03:02.000 They get a list of people that aren't compliant to fine.

01:03:05.000 I mean, that's it.

01:03:07.000 So that's what you get.

01:03:08.000 The free health care you get is a fine and then no health care because it won't even work, even if you want to pay for it.

01:03:16.000 I shouldn't laugh, it's so sick.

01:03:17.000 But, I mean, think of the genius of that.

01:03:20.000 It's like in Goodfellas where he's like to the lady, go in there, yeah, go in that garage.

01:03:25.000 That's where the free furs are.

01:03:26.000 And then she starts looking in there and sees the guy's ready to kill her and she goes, no, I'm not going in there.

01:03:32.000 And he gets mad at her.

01:03:33.000 By the way, that's a true story.

01:03:35.000 That movie's based on a true story.

01:03:37.000 One of the only real Italian mafia defectors to ever blow the whistle on what was happening deep inside the East Coast mob.

01:03:43.000 But the average Obama person, they could see a child being sawed in half with a hacksaw, and if they told them there was something free in there, they'd say, come on in, strip your clothes off, we're going to chain you down, you're going to get something free!

01:03:57.000 And now that you're chained down, they go, yeah, I'm going to take a blowtorch to you and pull your teeth out with pliers.

01:04:02.000 That's the free thing you're going to get.

01:04:04.000 And even as they're having their teeth ripped out, if they tell them, I'm a Nigerian prince, you're now winning the $5 million in the Nigerian email, they will actually thank them for it.

01:04:13.000 I'm telling you, these people would thank Obama if he was slitting their throat.

01:04:17.000 You understand that?

01:04:18.000 Yeah, I got a question for you real quick, and I'll let you get back to the other callers.

01:04:24.000 Why is it that Obama, being a Marxist slash socialist or communist, thinks that he can implement socialism or communism better than any of the other countries in the past, when all we've seen is utter and complete collapse of those systems in the past?

01:04:42.000 Well, because the collapse is the authoritarian takeover by criminals that call slavery communism.

01:04:50.000 And it's always the same.

01:04:51.000 So the low-level minions are just being conned because they want a free ride.

01:04:55.000 But the folks running the communist system, they know what it is.

01:04:59.000 But it's communism for the political system with mega-rich people offshore exempt from it.

01:05:05.000 More calls coming up.

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01:08:16.000 Government cover-ups.

01:08:19.000 You want answers?

01:08:20.000 Well, so does he.

01:08:22.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:08:26.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:08:35.000 Greg Pallast, the fraud investigator, former top federal fraud investigator, best-selling author, investigative journalist for ABC Nightly News, BBC.

01:08:45.000 Well, he still works for them sometimes, but he brings the stuff that's too hot for them to handle because of the control JPMorgan Chase and others have to this show.

01:08:55.000 He's going to talk about the $13 billion debt that Chase has now, a record settlement, which is even a big deal for Lloyd Blankfein.

01:09:05.000 So this is a huge, huge issue.

01:09:11.000 Now, we're going to be going over all of that with him.

01:09:14.000 I'm going to go back to your calls here in a moment.

01:09:16.000 And then we've got Mr. McAfee.

01:09:18.000 John McAfee is here.

01:09:19.000 He's here now.

01:09:20.000 Really interesting meeting him in person.

01:09:22.000 He's got some bombshell inside info on Obamacare.

01:09:26.000 He was just interviewed by NBC right before he came here.

01:09:29.000 That'll be on tonight.

01:09:30.000 We've got breaking news with John McAfee, legendary computer programmer, coming up.

01:09:36.000 We'll get his take on that and so much more here today.

01:09:43.000 But again, we're also going to be breaking down Obamacare and so much more in the latest on the NSA.

01:09:49.000 Before I go any further, Because my offices are getting flooded with phone calls.

01:09:54.000 XM Channel 244 took us off reportedly last Friday.

01:10:00.000 I had been told earlier in the year that XM Sirius was basically having a lot of problems, internal shake-ups.

01:10:08.000 And more, and that it was not personal, but that most of their libertarian conservative talk shows would be taken off.

01:10:16.000 It's not just us, it's other networks, other affiliates, other groups, and there's internal battles going on politically within Sirius XM to have no conservative or libertarian shows on the air other than Fox News and Fox Channels.

01:10:34.000 And we were replaced with Fox sub-channels.

01:10:37.000 Even though XM executives that contacted us said that they get a lot of subscriptions, were extremely popular, obviously it was not just us, it was hundreds of other libertarian and conservative shows were taken off of Sirius XM.

01:10:53.000 So if you are a subscriber, like I am, And you want to hear these type shows, you need to contact them, not us.

01:11:00.000 We are being inundated with hundreds of calls an hour to our few customer service people.

01:11:08.000 We can do nothing.

01:11:10.000 I told you about this a long time ago.

01:11:12.000 They were going to take us off six months ago, but because there was an executive discussion and thing that went on, they made the decision to put off those corporate board decisions Because of fear of backlash.

01:11:28.000 And so we were kept on.

01:11:29.000 We're gone now.

01:11:31.000 And I've been on there about three years.

01:11:33.000 I was surprised we were on there that long.

01:11:35.000 We're on over 160 AM and FM stations.

01:11:37.000 That's a lot for a show that's this hardcore.

01:11:40.000 But we're dominating on all the different internet audio feed platforms.

01:11:44.000 We're dominating.

01:11:47.000 From Stitcher to All the other major systems, Boxee, Roku, the old systems like Shoutcast.

01:11:56.000 I mean, we're just in the top 20 to the top five on most systems, the number one on many.

01:12:02.000 So we're dominating in the free market of ideas.

01:12:05.000 The problem is they're coming out with systems where they can censor libertarian or patriotic talk system-wide across platforms.

01:12:13.000 And that's the real thing that we're facing in the future.

01:12:15.000 So it is important that people record and save on their own hard drives This show, this broadcast, this information.

01:12:23.000 Because we could wake up with a big false flag one morning and we're blocked on the satellites, the AM, the FM, even the shortwave.

01:12:30.000 You won't be hearing this show anymore under continuity of government COG.

01:12:35.000 So you don't know what you've got until it's gone and we are off XM channel 244.

01:12:40.000 First they moved us from one channel to a higher channel.

01:12:42.000 They said to try to kill backlash.

01:12:45.000 They moved all their hot talk channels to higher channels.

01:12:49.000 To kind of kill the audience and confuse people, and now they've just killed it entirely.

01:12:53.000 So call XM, call Sirius yourself, please, and send them emails or call their corporate offices if you want to hear us back on.

01:13:01.000 In fact, maybe we should dig up their corporate numbers, not our internal corporate numbers, because those are friends inside SiriusXM, you know, vice presidents and people.

01:13:09.000 We need to just give the general main corporate number out, probably, for folks to direct their calls there instead of here.

01:13:15.000 So again, please, I understand you're upset.

01:13:18.000 Please stop calling us here.

01:13:20.000 We can't do anything about it, okay?

01:13:21.000 We are not the ones that did it, okay?

01:13:24.000 I didn't flip a switch and take us off there.

01:13:26.000 I thought it was coming six months ago.

01:13:28.000 In fact, we broke that they were going to take almost all conservative libertarian programming off SiriusXM.

01:13:34.000 So that's been done.

01:13:36.000 Let's go to Jeffrey in Alabama.

01:13:38.000 Your take on Obamacare now that premiums on average have doubled and we've seen on average a tripling of deductibles.

01:13:46.000 Isn't that what Affordable Care Act means?

01:13:48.000 When I hear Affordable Care Act, I think tripling deductibles, doubling premiums.

01:13:52.000 Don't you?

01:13:53.000 Yes, it's the offshore mafia takeover of the Zionist Rothschild Nazis, as you have told us.

01:13:58.000 I don't want to wind up like Captain Sarp, Donner, Ventress, and be a victim of the Savage Morticians, a bar death from a Warhammer.

01:14:04.000 How are you doing, Super 5?

01:14:06.000 I am doing good.

01:14:06.000 I'm trying to follow what you said there, but it sounded interesting.

01:14:09.000 Go ahead, sir.

01:14:10.000 I just said Savage Morticians.

01:14:12.000 It's a Warhammer sci-fi quote.

01:14:14.000 Uh, Sarpadon had it bad.

01:14:15.000 He came back, but he was tapping on the table when he talked to his boss.

01:14:19.000 Uh, Cynthia Free, I love you and the show.

01:14:21.000 I've learned so many things from watching you.

01:14:24.000 And I'm not a racist.

01:14:25.000 I'm an Alabama.

01:14:26.000 I'm not a racist.

01:14:26.000 I'm a human racist over aliens.

01:14:30.000 I hear you, and that's racist as well.

01:14:31.000 I believe if aliens arrived in their starships and said, give us your children, we're going to suck their brains out through huge straws.

01:14:40.000 As long as the straws were pink, and as long as the aliens said, let us eat your children's brains, or you're racist, the average trendy would present their child to the alien 14-foot insect creatures to suck their brains out.

01:14:53.000 I appreciate your call.

01:14:55.000 And I think we should give our children's brains to the aliens to prove we're not racist.

01:15:00.000 All right, let's go ahead now and take another call.

01:15:04.000 George in New Zealand.

01:15:05.000 Go ahead, sir.

01:15:07.000 Hello, I wanted to mention one other halogen that you hadn't covered between fluorine and bromine and the periodic table is chlorine.

01:15:18.000 I'm a physician and went to school in San Antonio and flipping through looking for an article.

01:15:24.000 There was an article in like 1950 that showed a study done on rabbits and Chickens that typical city chlorination of water causes hardening of the arteries and had them all dissected.

01:15:40.000 So just last year, the government increased the amount of chlorine that the cities are required to put into the system.

01:15:48.000 So just you need to filter your water.

01:15:50.000 That's right, we should filter our water.

01:15:52.000 And I'm going to give you Richard's email in a minute.

01:15:54.000 Richard is kind of handling some of the iodine stuff for me.

01:15:58.000 If you could send all those studies you find, because there are thousands of them, on what this does.

01:16:04.000 And for those that don't know, it's on record that chlorine gives you kidney cancer, liver cancer, and a bunch of other stuff.

01:16:09.000 And I understand the cost-benefit analysis of put it in the water.

01:16:14.000 So that you can, you know, purify it so that you don't die of dysentery.

01:16:19.000 But the answer is we need to have the lowest levels of chlorine possible and other systems or mass filtration instead of upping the level of the chlorine as they've done under international standards.

01:16:32.000 Go ahead.

01:16:34.000 Number two, you can get out of Obamacare if you join one of the Christian health care systems.

01:16:41.000 There's a number of them and they're exempt from Obamacare and they're very affordable.

01:16:45.000 Number three, I went to school in Columbus to Ohio State and they had a lot of test marketing there.

01:16:53.000 Most big companies before they really put a market Put something out in the market?

01:16:57.000 Well, test market.

01:16:58.000 I think they should test market Obamacare in some place that wants it, like Hawaii or Massachusetts or something before they started it.

01:17:06.000 Living here in New Zealand, we had to buy insurance.

01:17:11.000 It cost us...

01:17:13.000 We had to make sure we had our own insurance provided for me and my wife.

01:17:17.000 It cost $1,400 a year for their insurance here.

01:17:23.000 So there are ways to get around this.

01:17:26.000 The reason we're in New Zealand is because, yeah, there is socialized health care here, but there aren't enough doctors because they don't pay enough.

01:17:33.000 They go to other countries and so they import United States doctors.

01:17:38.000 You know, I hear New Zealand is incredibly beautiful.

01:17:40.000 Maybe I should come join you.

01:17:45.000 No, I hear you.

01:17:47.000 I tell you, man, America is so poisoned and dumbed down that it's scary to be here.

01:17:51.000 But I think I need to stay here and try to save the Republic with the help of our great listeners.

01:17:55.000 But it is really scary.

01:17:58.000 I went to Walmart yesterday just to just to check it out and see what it was like.

01:18:01.000 And it was like a Hey, it's good to talk to you, Alex.

01:18:05.000 You know, I guess I'm not going to spell it.

01:18:09.000 scabbering around looking like they had their souls sucked out of them.

01:18:12.000 Very frightening.

01:18:13.000 God bless you.

01:18:14.000 I appreciate your call.

01:18:16.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Mike in Illinois.

01:18:17.000 Mike, you're on the air.

01:18:18.000 Go ahead.

01:18:19.000 Hey, it's good to talk to you, Alex.

01:18:22.000 You know, I guess I'm not going to spell it.

01:18:25.000 I don't know if you can do this, but Obamacare is 1-800-FU.

01:18:32.000 No, no, no.

01:18:32.000 They did actually make that the number just on purpose.

01:18:36.000 See, the fund for them, I've studied the criminology of this type of criminal group, is to do that publicly, exactly, yes.

01:18:44.000 You know, and you're right, they do want to know your income, so they can put you into Well, sir, for those that don't know, Consumer Reports has said today what we said two and a half weeks ago with Mike Adams, the top programmer, breaking it down here.

01:19:03.000 It is an NSA front to get your Social Security, your income, your info, to then put you in a database for the IRS to garnish your wages or take your refund or grab your bank account for $5,000 fine a year.

01:19:17.000 And, you know, yes, and they've duped all of us UAW people also.

01:19:24.000 You wouldn't believe the other, most of them are Democrats in my opinion.

01:19:31.000 I used to be, I was raised Democrat until I began to listen to you and Ron Paul and now Rand Paul.

01:19:41.000 And it's just amazing how people are zombified when it comes to mentioning anything about Obama that's negative.

01:19:54.000 That's why I keep making the joke that you do whatever they say or you're racist.

01:19:58.000 I mean, you could come up to a trendy and say, strangle your child or you're racist, they would begin strangling them with a tourniquet.

01:20:03.000 I mean, I'm not kidding.

01:20:05.000 If you say we're going to set up Nazi Germany for Obama, they sign it.

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01:24:38.000 John McAfee, the one, the only, is actually walking around in my office right now.

01:24:43.000 He's a really interesting guy.

01:24:44.000 He's even more interesting in person.

01:24:47.000 And he's coming up for the whole next hour.

01:24:50.000 He told us this morning, he said, yeah, I just finished being interviewed by CNBC.

01:24:54.000 The government came to me and asked me to fix Obamacare.

01:24:57.000 I'm not kidding.

01:24:58.000 And he said, well I'll tell you what he said, but there it is, there is CNBC, just as he said, it just came out minutes ago, GOP Aztec founder ex-fugitive McAfee to diagnose Obamacare.

01:25:10.000 And so he's going to be in studio with us.

01:25:13.000 And I'll tell you who's joining us via video Skype right now, is top investigative journalist, former top federal fraud investigator, works with BBC Newsnight, ABC News, but he brings us the stories that are too hot for them to publish or to broadcast.

01:25:26.000 He, of course, is best-selling author Greg Pallas, gregpallas.com, journalism and film.

01:25:32.000 And he is giving us the inside scoop on what has happened now with Chase and their $13 billion fine and what's really behind that and what's really behind our story that went viral last week on what looks like capital controls.

01:25:49.000 Financial experts we've talked to agree their response saying it's no big deal that we let you wire money in but not out.

01:25:55.000 And that most accounts can't have more than $50,000 of activity a month if it's cash, like your restaurant.

01:26:01.000 What's really going on at JPMorgan Chase, the top of the globalist pyramid, along with other venture capitalists who are anti-free market monopoly men?

01:26:08.000 And so Greg Palast joins us via video.

01:26:11.000 Skype!

01:26:12.000 Couldn't think of a better time for him to come on and give us the inside scoop.

01:26:17.000 And I mean the inside scoop.

01:26:19.000 I'm not bragging about our guests like Mike Adams two and a half weeks ago saying healthcare.gov is an NSA front.

01:26:25.000 None of it works.

01:26:25.000 It's all fake.

01:26:26.000 The only part that works is getting your social security number and info to create a database on you to then send you the fine for not getting health care.

01:26:34.000 It's impossible to buy on the system.

01:26:37.000 And now it's in Consumer Reports.

01:26:39.000 Don't go there.

01:26:40.000 That's what it is.

01:26:40.000 Two and a half weeks later.

01:26:41.000 Well, I'm telling you, just like Mike Adams was right about that, although McAfee's saying the same thing, we have the top expert on the scams going on to tell you what's really happening.

01:26:50.000 So we're not just hyping that our guests are the best out there.

01:26:54.000 Mainstream media could have guests like this.

01:26:56.000 They don't want you to really know what's going on.

01:26:58.000 They want you in the dark so they can slit your political throat.

01:27:01.000 Greg Palast, I've built you up, but people need to listen to what you have to say.

01:27:05.000 Give us the inside, sir.

01:27:07.000 Well, here's the story, Alex.

01:27:09.000 I mean, it might sound like the government has really whacked JPMorgan Chase for a lot of money.

01:27:15.000 They've agreed to settle charges of fraud, and they've pled guilty to fraud under California state charges.

01:27:23.000 And they're paying $13 billion.

01:27:25.000 Now that might sound like a lot of money.

01:27:28.000 To chase, it's headed by Jamie Dimon, the man that is known as Obama's favorite banker.

01:27:36.000 Obama's favorite banker has now pled guilty to fraud, is paying $13 billion, and so he's now got to hunt up all that cash between his sofa cushions.

01:27:46.000 JPMorgan Chase is now the biggest bank in the United States.

01:27:51.000 And it is, it's handling over a trillion dollars.

01:27:55.000 Some of that's real money and some of that is stuff they kind of made up.

01:27:58.000 Thirteen billion dollars may sound like a big fine that the Justice Department has levied on this company to avoid a trial.

01:28:07.000 It's not.

01:28:08.000 Not when considering the crime that they've actually now pled guilty to.

01:28:13.000 What is the crime?

01:28:15.000 It's fraud upon the international mortgage market.

01:28:19.000 It brought down, this is what brought down the system in 2008, beginning in 2007 to 2008.

01:28:26.000 What JP Morgan did was it lent out, and with their co-conspirators Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, and Bank of America's Countrywide unit, they lent out tens of billions of dollars in subprime mortgages.

01:28:44.000 Where people were hooked in at 3 and 4 percent and then found that their mortgage payments were tripling at 11 percent.

01:28:53.000 Now, you know, one of their claims, oh, people ran out of money, they couldn't afford these mortgages.

01:28:58.000 No, most people can't afford a tripling of their mortgage.

01:29:02.000 But what they said was they gave out mortgages that they knew would go kablooey.

01:29:06.000 They deliberately sold these mortgages.

01:29:08.000 They packaged them up.

01:29:09.000 J.P.

01:29:10.000 Morgan lent out the money, or Bank of America Countrywide Unit lent out the money, but rather than take the risk on the mortgages, they packaged them up into what they call securities.

01:29:20.000 They securitized them, as they called it.

01:29:23.000 And they sold these securities to pension funds in America.

01:29:27.000 And then they and others like Timberwolf made jokes about how they were selling their customers, quote, S.H.

01:29:33.000 you-know-what.

01:29:34.000 Yeah, I mean, they were bags of feces.

01:29:37.000 And they sold them to the Swiss Railway pension fund.

01:29:40.000 I know that because my partner's dad once had a pension from the Swiss Railway.

01:29:46.000 Towns in Finland melted.

01:29:49.000 So they're getting a slap on the wrist for stealing trillions?

01:29:52.000 We're on the march.

01:29:53.000 The empire's on the run.

01:29:54.000 and government pensions went through...

01:29:56.000 So they're getting a slap on the wrist for stealing trillions.

01:29:58.000 We're on the march.

01:29:59.000 The empire's on the run.

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01:33:23.000 It's Alex Jones.

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01:34:05.000 Joining us is investigative journalist Greg Pallast.

01:34:09.000 So, Greg, From my research, and I know you've done more than I have, JPMorgan Chase is at the very top of the pyramid, but there are these big hedge funds that actual power level are just as powerful, and it's all interlocking, and people like John Corzine can make 40 to 1 bets with other people's money, and no criminal charges, stealing people's money.

01:34:32.000 I mean, is there anything to hold them back?

01:34:33.000 What is the general climate right now with the Chinese government lecturing us about our debt, with the hedge fund hyenas manipulating things, with the new head of the Federal Reserve saying she's going to accelerate the money printing?

01:34:50.000 What's the inside word on what the next big shoe is to drop?

01:34:55.000 Well, the big problem is that with the $13 billion settlement, and remember, the damages are about a trillion dollars.

01:35:03.000 A trillion dollars!

01:35:04.000 Okay?

01:35:05.000 And they're settling for $13 billion.

01:35:08.000 The big problem for me is not that they're getting away with murder on the cheap.

01:35:12.000 It's that the game will continue.

01:35:14.000 In other words, there is no move.

01:35:17.000 JP Morgan, Jamie Dimon, I mean, Obama.

01:35:20.000 Here's a guy who's signing off, pleading guilty to criminal fraud.

01:35:27.000 Paying $13 billion in fines, and Obama recently said that he wished that every bank had a Jamie Dimon running it.

01:35:34.000 Can you imagine?

01:35:36.000 Wow.

01:35:37.000 What I would like is a guy who's now pled guilty to one of the biggest financial crimes in history, according to his own Justice Department.

01:35:44.000 That'd be like having a pyromaniac in charge of the fireworks factory.

01:35:49.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:35:51.000 So what you got is you got the arsonist in charge of the fire department, and Obama thinks it's just... We just need more guys like that!

01:35:58.000 Now the biggest problem, besides the bad joke of it, the sick joke of that, is that they are not doing anything to implement, like you said, there are these hedge funds in the shadows, but not only in the shadows, but under the aegis of JPMorgan Chase.

01:36:13.000 And in other words, the deregulation The decriminalizing of mixing your bank account with casino operations of investment banks is not being changed.

01:36:25.000 It was the destruction of the Glass-Steagall Act back in the Clinton administration under the guidance of Larry Summers and of course City Bank Chieftain Robert Rubin, who went from Goldman Sachs to the Treasury back to Citibank.

01:36:41.000 JP Morgan did not commit this crime alone, and I'm saying crime because now it's official.

01:36:46.000 They pled guilty to criminal charges.

01:36:48.000 They did not commit this crime alone.

01:36:49.000 Like you say, they're big hedge funds, and they are not saying, okay, the hedge fund gamblers have to stay away from the public's money.

01:36:58.000 That your savings account which is guaranteed by public funds.

01:37:02.000 They're still letting these guys gamble with that money.

01:37:05.000 So basically it's like they just had the public for dinner and now the concierge or the maitre d' is just tagging on a small 2 or 3 percent tip on the bill.

01:37:17.000 Yeah.

01:37:18.000 As they pick their teeth leaving.

01:37:20.000 They're saying, listen, if you pay, you know, if you give the waiter a tip, you know, we'll kind of like waive the bill.

01:37:20.000 Right.

01:37:23.000 We'll give it to those guys at the other table.

01:37:25.000 You know, the working guys over there at the lunch counter, uh, they'll pick up your tab.

01:37:29.000 Well, the analogy is the guys at the other lunch counter, you just ate their children in front of them and now they get to pick up the bill.

01:37:34.000 We're laughing, but the truth is, is that we did have a financial collapse because this, this crime was not mine.

01:37:39.000 When they, when those, um, securities turned out or opened up and they turned out to be bags of, as you say, bags of feces, um, the entire, The market for housing collapsed in the United States.

01:37:50.000 People lost trillions of dollars in value on their homes.

01:37:53.000 They couldn't buy new homes.

01:37:54.000 They couldn't sell their homes.

01:37:56.000 We had 2 million foreclosures.

01:37:58.000 This is not just a financial scam that, oh, well, yeah, that's a lot of money, you know, those big guys, and they still got bonuses, and let's complain about it.

01:38:06.000 I'm talking about something more serious.

01:38:07.000 We had 2 million people who lost their homes.

01:38:09.000 Uh, to this, in this scam.

01:38:11.000 And countless, uh, infected pension funds, public and private, cities going under, and then... We're talking, you know, when we talk about Detroit going under, look, don't forget, this is a big, big part of it.

01:38:23.000 Uh, you had like a fourth of the homes in Detroit, uh, were worthless.

01:38:27.000 So the city had no, you know, tax base, uh, for, to, to pay anything, so they went bankrupt.

01:38:32.000 You have the, the, uh, the knock-on effects of a J.P.

01:38:36.000 Morgan crime.

01:38:37.000 In combination with their hedge funds.

01:38:39.000 And for example, I brought up one case where Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan was in part of this game where Goldman Sachs was actually betting against the mortgage market.

01:38:49.000 While they're selling this junk, on one hand, secretly they know that the market's going to collapse.

01:38:55.000 They made $4 billion for themselves and their clients, betting on the collapse of the market that they crushed.

01:39:01.000 And then we're arrogant enough, I mean, we're not just saying bags of feces here for fun.

01:39:04.000 This is not a Howard Stern show, folks.

01:39:06.000 We don't do that.

01:39:07.000 Not knocking Howard forward.

01:39:08.000 The point is, this is not a joke show.

01:39:10.000 That's what they called it, making fun of their clients, saying we sold them packages of bleep.

01:39:18.000 I mean, it'd be one thing if they robbed their clients, that's bad enough.

01:39:21.000 But the celebrating of it, what do you call that?

01:39:24.000 It's unbelievable.

01:39:25.000 Well, it's crime.

01:39:27.000 It's called fraud.

01:39:28.000 And see, that's the thing, is that the excuse before was, oh my god, we didn't know that the housing market would collapse, it's not our fault, oh my god, we're victims too.

01:39:36.000 Come on, now we know, not only from the internal tapes and the memos, that they knew that they were selling bags of crap.

01:39:44.000 that, on the other hand, that they actually made money on this because they were betting on the collapse while they were selling the suckers these mortgages.

01:39:52.000 And by the way, some of these mortgages, which they conned the rating agencies into giving them, well, not only conned them, but they paid them off.

01:39:59.000 It was simple.

01:40:00.000 They paid these rating agencies like Standard Bores to rate these things AA and AAA, and they literally were worth one cent on the dollar.

01:40:09.000 They lost 99% of their value.

01:40:11.000 They were complete junk, and they had AA ratings because they paid these investment rating agencies a fortune to put the, you know, the good housekeeping seal.

01:40:20.000 So we know about a lot of this.

01:40:22.000 The big question is, and the reason I wanted to get you on is back in 2002, you released the leaked documents.

01:40:28.000 Around the time that Joseph Stiklitz left the World Bank as Chief Economist, he says he didn't do it.

01:40:33.000 The point is, they got released around that time.

01:40:33.000 You say he didn't do it.

01:40:37.000 There was, I guess, a D-notice.

01:40:38.000 The BBC couldn't release them all, but you still released quite a few of them.

01:40:42.000 It became a big worldwide story.

01:40:42.000 You came on my show.

01:40:44.000 That's right.

01:40:45.000 Remind people about that.

01:40:47.000 Well, what happened is that we know from internal documents of the World Bank, WTO, and now the Treasury Department, a few weeks ago I released something called the Endgame Memo by Lawrence Summer, or received by Lawrence Summer, Larry Summers from Tim Geithner, both have been Secretaries of the Treasury working under Robert Rubin and Clinton and Obama.

01:41:07.000 And, uh, this, uh, crowd, uh, basically said, look, we're gonna rip apart.

01:41:10.000 We're having secret meetings with JPMorgan Chase.

01:41:13.000 We're having secret meetings with Goldman.

01:41:15.000 We're having secret meetings with Citibank.

01:41:17.000 And by the way, such secret meetings are completely illegal.

01:41:20.000 In fact, what I think, the reason why I think Obama decided to let JPMorgan off the hook with a $13 billion slap on the wrist.

01:41:29.000 Again, $13 billion is a slap on the wrist when the damage is a trillion.

01:41:32.000 By the government's own calculation.

01:41:34.000 So, why did he let them go?

01:41:36.000 Because, can you imagine JPMorgan saying, well, you know, we had secret approval from your own Secretary of the Treasury.

01:41:41.000 We'd like to call Lawrence Summers to our defense.

01:41:44.000 We'd like to call Obama's Secretary of the Treasury, Timmy Geithner.

01:41:49.000 And since they approved it all, how could you say we committed?

01:41:52.000 Of course, the White House, the last White House, and especially the Clinton White House as you exposed, are co-conspirators in it.

01:41:58.000 So here's why I brought up the stuff from 2002, because those documents broke down.

01:42:05.000 They were now going to take over the West.

01:42:07.000 Just as they had done third world countries, and now they hold Greece, the US, you name it.

01:42:11.000 Hostage with these debt limits, when months ago they just froze the debt limit even though the debt was going up, but when they wanted to they then threatened our credit and everything.

01:42:22.000 Holding us hostage, well that's in the documents you released, their plan to do that.

01:42:26.000 So I'm asking you, what's the current climate, what are these criminals up to now?

01:42:31.000 Well, I think the thing is now they're celebrating because, you know, that Jamie Dimon has basically gotten off the hook.

01:42:39.000 Despite the fraud charges, he's not going to be, you know, he's not going to be read his rights and shipped off to Leavenworth.

01:42:46.000 It's a joke.

01:42:47.000 And he already had a little gathering of his people at the top of a museum.

01:42:54.000 He had a big champagne luncheon, you know, basically proclaiming victory.

01:42:59.000 So they literally, literally are breaking out the champagne bottles.

01:43:02.000 And like you say, the big problem is that the game continues.

01:43:05.000 It's not even what they did and that they got away with it, though that's serious business.

01:43:10.000 As a fraud investigator, I used to, you know, like I say, I used to do racketeering cases for the government.

01:43:14.000 You know, we used to think that, well, gee, do a racketeering case, they plead guilty, they should go to the can.

01:43:19.000 That ain't happening.

01:43:21.000 They might take a few small fry and throw them into the volcano, but that's about it.

01:43:26.000 You know, as we saw with Goldman Sachs, when they ripped off the, on the same scam, it was the same scam by the way, and they made $4 billion and then they threw some assistant vice president, didn't even know what the hell was going on, they threw him, oh, they removed his ability, his license to sell stock.

01:43:43.000 That was the biggest criminal punishment.

01:43:47.000 Of these companies, which made billions and took us down four trillion.

01:43:51.000 So I'm just concerned that the same game is going on.

01:43:54.000 There is no attempt.

01:43:55.000 There is no attempt to say, look, we have to go back to the rule of law here.

01:44:01.000 You cannot take money, which is guaranteed savings money, which is guaranteed by the people of America through the U.S.

01:44:08.000 Treasury and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation cannot take our money and go to Vegas with us.

01:44:15.000 Fix the tables.

01:44:16.000 So you win, we lose.

01:44:19.000 I'm stunned that there's been absolutely no real change in the long run.

01:44:23.000 I mean, it's like high-frequency trading.

01:44:23.000 Well, sure.

01:44:25.000 I've seen the actuaries, the numbers, the graphs, where they've increased derivatives investments.

01:44:30.000 Since 2008, they kind of slowed down for two years.

01:44:33.000 Now they've ramped it back up.

01:44:34.000 There's another huge bubble with QE Unlimited.

01:44:37.000 What's the word with QE Unlimited?

01:44:39.000 What's the inside scoop on the real state of the economy?

01:44:42.000 Well, they have to keep pumping in money.

01:44:44.000 I mean, understand, when you talk about derivatives...

01:44:47.000 And we just had, again, today we're talking about the fine, the deal cut between the Justice Department and JPMorgan Chase, that they only pay $13 billion on a trillion-dollar crime.

01:44:58.000 They've admitted to criminal fraud.

01:45:02.000 JPMorgan Chase, just so you know, I was stunned myself.

01:45:05.000 You go to my website, you'll find a page of their old SEC files.

01:45:10.000 They had $88 trillion of derivatives on their books as assets.

01:45:15.000 88 trillion dollars in derivatives as assets.

01:45:18.000 Now, I'm sorry.

01:45:19.000 There isn't 88 trillion dollars of anything on this planet.

01:45:22.000 I guess, what do they do?

01:45:23.000 Have a bank account on another planet?

01:45:25.000 I mean, where's the 88?

01:45:26.000 It's literally on their records.

01:45:28.000 I had to count to zero so many times.

01:45:29.000 I kept looking at my assistant, Miss Bad Petty, and I kept saying...

01:45:33.000 I understand I have an MBA from the University of Chicago and I'm looking at these numbers and saying, that can't be, can't be!

01:45:41.000 But it is $88 trillion in basically baloney securities.

01:45:46.000 And it gets better.

01:45:47.000 They expect us to back them up and pay for them.

01:45:50.000 And when they turn out to be, of course, what they are, which is, you know, Crap.

01:45:54.000 Bags of poop.

01:45:55.000 We, uh, we pay for it.

01:45:57.000 And that's what, and that's why you have to keep pumping money into the system because if not, the, the, the, you know, the, the game, the musical chairs.

01:46:05.000 But all the economists I've talked to tell me if you can concur because you're a smart financial guy out there.

01:46:10.000 They say that mathematically down the road, it may be six months, it may be two years, that the chairs will stop.

01:46:16.000 And sure, if they would have slowed down QE3, the whole economy would have imploded in one swoop.

01:46:21.000 But instead, as Ron Paul wrote a paper a few days ago, it's going to go more long term, but be worse in the end.

01:46:27.000 What do you say about that?

01:46:29.000 Well, I, you know, look, it's so scary now that Yeah, they're just throwing money out the window and keeping the banks pumped up.

01:46:37.000 And they almost, like you say, we'd have a collapse if they didn't.

01:46:40.000 We've created a spinning merry-go-round of a financial system, and we can't just hit the brakes because everyone falls off the horses, right?

01:46:49.000 And so I don't know.

01:46:51.000 I actually don't know where it will end up.

01:46:53.000 I would hope that it depends what we do.

01:46:55.000 If we start beginning to police these operations, beginning to wind down this massive amount of of basically baloney airfield securities that are flying around the planet on which we have pensions, based all over the world, you know, in which economies and banks have this stuff.

01:47:17.000 And, of course, as you pointed out in one of your books a few years ago, I forget which one, but I read it, they corrupted pension funds and stuff on purpose so they could hold everyone hostage.

01:47:26.000 Yeah, I mean, what they did was, and that was in Vulture's Picnic, and I also had one of billionaires and ballot bandits, and, you know, one of the problems is that if you suddenly say, hey, all Greek debt is now baloney, you have every bank in the planet now can't use you have every bank in the planet now can't use that as reserve currency now And technically, you can have every major bank on the planet outside of Brazil and China, which wouldn't join in.

01:47:52.000 Outside of Brazil and China, you'd have every bank on the planet technically bankrupt.

01:47:56.000 So they can't just say, OK, game's over.

01:47:58.000 The carousel stops.

01:48:01.000 We have to wind down because we've gotten ourselves into this business.

01:48:04.000 But the problem is with the J.P. Morgan settlement today.

01:48:08.000 I'm just worried that that's simply, OK, you pay a few bucks into the tin cup.

01:48:14.000 And the game continues.

01:48:15.000 There's no there is absolutely no indication that J.P. Morgan is going to stop selling securitized mortgages and take responsibility for that they issue.

01:48:26.000 It's real simple.

01:48:27.000 You can't allow this stuff.

01:48:28.000 How about we say it's been nothing but fraudulent and damaging and almost blew up the planet Why don't we say it's illegal?

01:48:38.000 We used to.

01:48:39.000 We went several, you know, generations, several millennia without securitized mortgage derivatives.

01:48:46.000 Why don't we say, that was a real bad idea, guys.

01:48:50.000 It was criminal before.

01:48:50.000 Let's cut it out.

01:48:52.000 Let's say it's criminal again.

01:48:54.000 And then we don't have to, you know, but to say, okay, you pay $13 billion, you can pick up where you left off, go back to Vegas.

01:49:02.000 No, I don't think so.

01:49:02.000 Sure, but to put it in layman's terms, we're talking about hundreds of trillions of dollars, conservatively, of counterfeit garbage that they've now bought stuff with.

01:49:13.000 And then we're saying, hey, stop that.

01:49:15.000 And they go, uh-uh, we've infected everything.

01:49:18.000 So instead of them getting in trouble, it's worse.

01:49:20.000 They get bailed out and get more power.

01:49:23.000 Because, well, they're the guys that did it, so let them manage it.

01:49:26.000 And then they're using it to take advantage of us while JPMorgan and all these groups finance the police state.

01:49:32.000 They're the ones, every time I turn around, that are lobbying to get rid of our freedoms.

01:49:36.000 Well, of course, because if we have our system where we run the government, they could end up at Nuremberg.

01:49:42.000 So they also have an appetite to set up an authoritarian endgame so they feel safe.

01:49:47.000 I mean, they've got to be dealt with.

01:49:50.000 Yeah, I mean, look, you can't ignore the idea of the NSA spying.

01:49:55.000 With the need to maintain, to make sure that no one is protesting against the J.P.

01:50:00.000 Morgan's takedown of our treasury.

01:50:02.000 Don't forget, we came very close to having Larry Summers, the guy that basically body blocked any regulation of J.P.

01:50:10.000 Morgan's derivatives activity.

01:50:11.000 And by the way, he was on their payroll.

01:50:14.000 Obama wanted to make him head of the Federal Reserve.

01:50:16.000 And again, that shows the arrogance of these people.

01:50:18.000 That was like trying to have Kissinger as the head whitewasher on the 9-11 Commission.

01:50:22.000 Well, you know, one thing I should say that's positive You know, I issued these memos that the Summers have been having secret meetings illegally with the banks.

01:50:32.000 Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio had that in his hand.

01:50:35.000 He was loading up for any confirmation hearing if Obama went ahead with Summers.

01:50:39.000 We beat the Summers nomination for head of the Federal Reserve.

01:50:43.000 Stay there, come back and do five more minutes, six minute segment, and then John McAfee's coming in.

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01:55:09.000 A final segment with Greg Pallast and then drumroll, John McAvee.

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01:55:26.000 He's going to be in here with us talking about some big breaking news.

01:55:30.000 Guys, I showed you that earlier.

01:55:31.000 Will you print me that CNBC article about the government trying to hire him to try to fix healthcare?

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01:55:37.000 I want to show that when he comes in.

01:55:39.000 He's got some amazing points he wants to go over about other agencies spying on people, you name it, in the next hour.

01:55:44.000 Greg Palast!

01:55:46.000 The good news, sir.

01:55:47.000 Recapping, you got caught off by the break.

01:55:49.000 What is the good news?

01:55:50.000 Because we love to hear good news.

01:55:51.000 Well, the good news is that, you know, they can't steal all the money all the time.

01:55:56.000 And they can't ignore the public all the time because it threatens the system.

01:56:00.000 Now, Larry Summers, Who was the guy who was U.S.

01:56:04.000 Secretary of Treasury under Clinton and then became the economic czar, which, you know, as long as I like the name economic czar proves that we're, you know, we're officially an autocracy, right?

01:56:17.000 The economic czar, he worked for the big banks and he was the guy in government and then out who body blocked every attempt to regulate, control or even eliminate this new derivatives market junk.

01:56:31.000 He was paid.

01:56:32.000 He was on the payroll of Citibank and JPMorgan Chase.

01:56:36.000 And Obama was really insisting on appointing him to head the Federal Reserve Board.

01:56:41.000 Which would basically be, you know, it's putting the mob in charge of the banks, you know?

01:56:47.000 I mean, it's that simple.

01:56:48.000 Except the mob would never dream of stealing this much money at once.

01:56:52.000 And so Summers was going to be head of the Federal Reserve Board.

01:56:56.000 I released documents, a lot of other journalists, I released documents that he was having secret meetings which were illegal with the banks while he was Secretary of the Treasury.

01:57:05.000 And we had a lot of senators, like Senator Sherrod Brown, who used that information, told Obama that if this guy goes to the confirmation hearing, they're going to use my material and others' material to expose this guy.

01:57:16.000 And so we ended up with Janet Yellen instead.

01:57:20.000 Now you may think that Yellen is just another one of them, but believe me, even the signal given to the banks that their boy would be in charge, Is by itself terrible.

01:57:30.000 When you tell the mob that you're going to pick their consigliere as police chief, that's a serious bad signal that says there's no regulation, no one has control.

01:57:40.000 So public pressure...

01:57:42.000 you know, got Summers junked as head of the Federal Reserve Board.

01:57:45.000 And you do have people, whether you like Elizabeth Warren's politics or not, a lot of the reaction, one of the reasons she was elected, because she said, you know, the banks are getting away with murder.

01:57:55.000 And, you know, so there has been a reaction.

01:57:58.000 There was, you know, the activity of Occupy Wall Street panicked them into, and the Patriot movement panicked them into the NSA spying scam.

01:58:07.000 So when you see, you might complain about the NSA, but just think about this.

01:58:11.000 You got them.

01:58:12.000 You're driving them crazy, Alex.

01:58:14.000 They need, so they have to do this type of spying, because they're worried that there's movements that are challenging this banking regime.

01:58:24.000 So the good news is you're seeing folks wake up, not just here, but around the world.

01:58:28.000 Yeah, and of course, needless to say, you got, you know, in Brazil they said, the hell with this business, and they threw out the, they said, we're not, you can't sell derivatives to Brazil.

01:58:40.000 So there's definite sanity starting to creep back in.

01:58:42.000 Greg Pallas, gregpallas.com, thank you so much for the time.

01:58:45.000 You got it, Alex, thanks.

01:58:46.000 Thank you.

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02:00:26.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:30.000 Well, we're into the third hour here today.

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02:00:45.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host, and John McAfee, of course, the most famous antivirus maker out there in the company.

02:00:53.000 Still one of the top companies out there that bears his name.

02:00:56.000 He's an inventor, a journalist, a really interesting fellow, and of course the website is whoismcoffee.com.

02:01:04.000 And he joins us here.

02:01:05.000 We're going to come back in the next segment and really get into all the things he wants to cover, but he was here about an hour before it came out and he said, yeah, I just talked to...

02:01:13.000 I just talked to NBC and they're going to be talking about how the Feds tried to hire him to come try to fix health care.

02:01:19.000 So I guess they are all hands on deck trying to hire all the tech gurus to fix stuff.

02:01:23.000 We're going to talk about that coming up in the next segment.

02:01:26.000 But John, it is great to meet you in person, buddy.

02:01:29.000 Well, it's great to meet you, Alex.

02:01:30.000 I've talked to you on the phone so many times, I felt like I knew you anyway.

02:01:34.000 Well, it's good to have you here.

02:01:35.000 What do you think of Austin so far?

02:01:37.000 Very nice town.

02:01:37.000 I like Austin.

02:01:38.000 It's small, small enough to be enjoyable and not too crowded, and yet large enough to have coffee shops.

02:01:45.000 Well, it used to be a lot smaller, like 100,000 people.

02:01:48.000 Now it's over a million, but it is spread out.

02:01:50.000 Right.

02:01:51.000 I hear you have a water problem.

02:01:52.000 We do.

02:01:53.000 We're running out of water.

02:01:54.000 Well, until it flooded last week.

02:01:56.000 Every decade or so, there's a drought.

02:01:58.000 Next, we're going to have the dams about to break.

02:02:00.000 All right.

02:02:01.000 Well, that's preferable, I think.

02:02:03.000 I think the prettiest places in Austin would be down on the Colorado River.

02:02:09.000 Have you seen that yet?

02:02:10.000 Beautiful.

02:02:10.000 I have.

02:02:11.000 I think that's the river I'm staying on at the Four Seasons.

02:02:15.000 I've got a beautiful view of some river.

02:02:16.000 There were punters out this morning.

02:02:20.000 What do you want to get into?

02:02:21.000 I mean, obviously, we'll talk about Obamacare.

02:02:22.000 That's the big breaking news.

02:02:24.000 We'll get an update on Brazil, NSA.

02:02:26.000 You say there's more than just the NSA spying on us.

02:02:28.000 Well, obviously.

02:02:29.000 I mean, if the NSA is spying on us, and there's just one covert branch of the government, then everybody has to be.

02:02:35.000 It would be ridiculous to have the NSA spying on the U.S.

02:02:39.000 population, but the CIA and the FBI and other covert arms are not doing it, or the military.

02:02:44.000 So you know for a fact that we're being spied on by everyone.

02:02:47.000 You know, Edward Snowden just blew the whistle on one aspect, and so we're focused on that.

02:02:52.000 And the other branches are probably going, oh, please don't let them focus on us.

02:02:57.000 Well, that's right.

02:02:58.000 I mean, there's 15 big intelligence agencies, but it gets worse than that.

02:03:02.000 Because it came out the DEA is hooked into the NSA, tracking everybody.

02:03:06.000 I mean, so they're listening to you talk about a pot plant you've got growing in your backyard.

02:03:11.000 Well, I don't smoke pot, but... No, no, but I'm at the public out there, sure.

02:03:13.000 Of course, right.

02:03:14.000 So, all the agencies cooperate to a certain extent.

02:03:18.000 I mean, they're jealous of each other and they keep guarded secrets, but you can be guaranteed that something of interest to one agency may be of interest to another.

02:03:25.000 And so, there's nothing that we do that isn't known now.

02:03:29.000 I mean, that has to be the case.

02:03:32.000 I also want to talk about your product when it comes out because, I mean, you're already one of the most famous computer-type inventors out there.

02:03:37.000 I tell you, this will be revolutionary if it's not just an off-site proxy you go through, because we know they tap the backbone before it even gets there.

02:03:45.000 They've bragged about that.

02:03:46.000 If it's a device in front of your computer, I don't know why I didn't think of that.

02:03:49.000 I guess I'm not John McAfee.

02:03:51.000 Well, you know, it's a very simple concept.

02:03:53.000 People think that it's going to be difficult to implement, but it's not.

02:03:56.000 It's a very simple idea.

02:03:57.000 It's just you step outside the box and say, OK, everyone's trying to fix the Internet.

02:04:02.000 It's too big.

02:04:03.000 It's been here too long.

02:04:04.000 There are too many pieces.

02:04:06.000 I said, well, it can't be fixed.

02:04:08.000 Why don't we just create another Internet, sort of a sub part of the real Internet, and as it grows, perhaps that will be the new Internet.

02:04:15.000 But it's very simple.

02:04:16.000 The concept rests on the principle that if they do not know, if no one knows, even yourself, the ID of the person you're sending it to or receiving information from, then how can anybody watch that information?

02:04:28.000 And if the information itself is encrypted, then even if it is intercepted, it means nothing.

02:04:33.000 And my encryption technique has not been vetted by the NSA or they were not involved in the development of it.

02:04:39.000 So, like every other technique is, so they can't look at it, nor can any other agency.

02:04:45.000 Well, John McAfee's our guest in studio.

02:04:47.000 I'm your host, Alex Jones.

02:04:49.000 And when we come back, we're going to dive into an in-depth interview.

02:04:52.000 I'm going to ask him about human potential, where he thinks things are going, transhumanism, Ray Kurzweil.

02:04:57.000 I've got a bunch of my questions.

02:04:58.000 We're going to cover his points first, as I asked him before we went live.

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02:08:33.000 It's Alex Jones.

02:08:34.000 Well, John McAfee is our guest.

02:08:42.000 He's come to Austin to visit with us.

02:08:44.000 And this morning he did an interview with CNBC and it's GOP asked for tech founder ex-fugitive McAfee to diagnose Obamacare and that fits in with the Politico article tech surge to repair Obamacare websites they're saying it's like the Manhattan Project as they panic to try to fix it now of course John McAfee is a extremely famous Computer programmer, engineer, worked for all sorts of big corporations, NASA, you name it.

02:09:14.000 He developed McAfee, which is still the dominant antivirus system out there.

02:09:19.000 He's also been better known lately for escaping out of the kleptocratic area of Belize and exposing connections to the Communist Chinese, Muslim terrorists, you name it, Ryerson plots.

02:09:34.000 And when he broke this on our show, I said, man, that is hard to believe.

02:09:38.000 And but I still had him on and said it may be true, but then it all later came out in the news months and months later.

02:09:46.000 So he is definitely a blessed, charmed man to have been able to make it out of there into Guatemala and then back to the good old US of A. And we're going to talk about his view on the world and so many issues, the NSA, you name it.

02:10:01.000 But first, sir, let's get into Obamacare.

02:10:05.000 Wow, so you've been contacted by the government to try to come in and fix it.

02:10:09.000 What did you tell them and why did you refuse?

02:10:12.000 I was contacted by the House Committee on Energy and Commerce.

02:10:15.000 They're the ones that oversee the Obamacare package.

02:10:19.000 And if I would come out and basically oversee some of the changes and give them input on what needed to be done.

02:10:28.000 I said, sure.

02:10:29.000 Then they added, but we can't pay your expenses or anything.

02:10:32.000 The government is shut down.

02:10:33.000 I'm thinking, well, you pay $600 million to a completely inoperable agency to build this system.

02:10:41.000 I said, OK, well, I'll pay my own way.

02:10:45.000 And they said, OK.

02:10:47.000 And then they came back and said, well, we can't even get the committee members all together because, again, the chaos of the shutdown.

02:10:54.000 Can we do it on the phone?

02:10:56.000 And at that point I go, OK, I'm out of here.

02:10:58.000 They expect me to give them advice on the system that requires Showing them charts and graphs and how this thing is put together and what's wrong with it.

02:11:05.000 And they want to do it over the phone.

02:11:07.000 They're not serious.

02:11:08.000 They just want to say, we contacted McAfee.

02:11:11.000 He gave us some advice and we're going to implement it.

02:11:13.000 Which is utter nonsense.

02:11:14.000 My advice would be, throw it away and start over.

02:11:14.000 They're not.

02:11:18.000 You cannot fix the system that's there.

02:11:20.000 It is impossible.

02:11:22.000 The way it is architected, any good programmer will tell you, it's just not going to work.

02:11:26.000 And they can pour money into it, another $50 million, another $100 million.

02:11:30.000 It will never work the way that it is.

02:11:32.000 It needs to be redone.

02:11:35.000 A friend of mine, Mike Adams, who's a successful computer programmer, he said the same thing two and a half weeks ago.

02:11:39.000 He said several things.

02:11:40.000 He said, it looks like basically chimpanzees were in there, tied up to keyboards, writing this.

02:11:46.000 It's gibberish.

02:11:47.000 It's not even bad code.

02:11:48.000 That came out today.

02:11:49.000 Yes.

02:11:50.000 And he said that the government always throws more money at something that doesn't work when you need to scrap it.

02:11:56.000 But he said that's what all the top programmers are saying.

02:11:59.000 That is what you, John McAfee, as a well-known top programmer, are saying.

02:12:03.000 But clearly the Commerce Committee knows that too, so what do you think the real reason is?

02:12:08.000 Mike and others are saying, now it's actually coming out, that it's really an NSA front, and they're just getting data for who doesn't have insurance to find them, and it's totally cold-blooded.

02:12:18.000 Might be.

02:12:19.000 Because it doesn't seem like they were serious in actually implementing a Medicare system.

02:12:22.000 And you're right.

02:12:24.000 The code.

02:12:25.000 After the rollout, there were programmers that went on bulletin boards asking for help on programs that they had been working on for this system.

02:12:34.000 All of them Indian.

02:12:35.000 CGI has over 10,000 programmers in the country of India.

02:12:39.000 And they're doing very basic programming in a language that only runs on the front end, that is, your computer.

02:12:45.000 So when you log on to Obamacare, the programs are downloaded to your computer and run, and then ship the data back.

02:12:51.000 It's a very cheap and easy way of doing it.

02:12:54.000 And that's fine if you have 10 or 20 users, but if you have millions, it just isn't going to work.

02:12:58.000 And that's why the architecture can't support it.

02:13:01.000 But to have a company whose employees are asking for help from the general public on fixing their problems is absurd.

02:13:09.000 If you go through the code, there are fundamental misspellings in there.

02:13:13.000 You know, this shouldn't be happening.

02:13:15.000 This should be a professional company.

02:13:16.000 And that company, CGI, that worked for the government of Canada about seven years ago, was fired because of incompetence and not delivering what they had wanted.

02:13:27.000 So why did we choose a Canadian company when there are plenty of American companies that are very technically competent in this area?

02:13:34.000 I have no idea.

02:13:35.000 Well that's another issue.

02:13:36.000 Consumer Reports is now saying don't go to the website because you can basically have your identity stolen on it.

02:13:41.000 Absolutely.

02:13:42.000 Absolutely.

02:13:43.000 And it's not just the website.

02:13:45.000 You don't even know if it's a legitimate website because there are so many examiners that can have their own websites.

02:13:52.000 And, uh, sorry, that's my telephone here.

02:13:54.000 Hey, it kind of sounds cool.

02:13:55.000 It's like Star Trek-y.

02:13:56.000 Let me turn this sucker off.

02:13:57.000 So, there's, there's so many, um, uh, examiner sites that anybody can put together.

02:14:03.000 And the, um, uh, the sites can be made by hackers.

02:14:07.000 They can steal your identity.

02:14:09.000 They can ask for your social security number.

02:14:11.000 And the following day, your bank account's going to be empty.

02:14:14.000 And, and this is going to cost consumers, in terms of lost income and identity theft, more than the entire Obamacare package costs to implement.

02:14:24.000 Unbelievable, and Obama came out today, I forget the exact quote, let me look at DrudgeReport.com and find it.

02:14:30.000 He came out and called it a good deal and that it's exceeding expectations.

02:14:36.000 Well, I mean, I don't know whose expectations those would be.

02:14:38.000 Does that win the BS award of all time?

02:14:40.000 Well, I think so, unless your expectations are dramatically lower than any sane person would want to have.

02:14:46.000 So, really, that makes no sense.

02:14:48.000 What would the expectations be if, in fact, when it rolled out, you couldn't log on, you couldn't get support, there was no security, and it was crashing every three minutes?

02:14:59.000 What expectations could you possibly have that it met?

02:15:03.000 I have no clue.

02:15:04.000 That is definitely bullshit.

02:15:06.000 And again, John McAfee is our guest in studio.

02:15:09.000 Going back here then to understand this.

02:15:13.000 The Republican committee chair calls you up and says help us fix it and they want you to just tell them over the phone how to fix something that's like many times more complex than landing probably the Mars rover on the moon.

02:15:26.000 Something this complex with all these different hundreds of millions of people that are supposed to use it with all these interfaces and all these exchanges and nobody's ever made something like this work before from what I've been told.

02:15:35.000 Right.

02:15:35.000 And then they want you over the phone to tell them how to do it.

02:15:38.000 Right.

02:15:39.000 What did you say to them?

02:15:40.000 Well, first of all, it wasn't the committee chairman.

02:15:42.000 It was the lawyer for the committee, Sean Hayes, who contacted me and he was very flattering.

02:15:48.000 He said, I'm sure this won't be a heavy lift for you with the managerial expertise and all of this.

02:15:52.000 I said, well, OK.

02:15:54.000 And then he said, but I can't pay you expenses.

02:15:55.000 I go, well, OK.

02:15:56.000 I mean, I'm a good American.

02:15:58.000 You need help, I'll help.

02:15:59.000 Then when it got down to, you know, we can't get the committee members all together, can you do this over the phone, I realized that they're not even serious.

02:16:07.000 I never even responded.

02:16:08.000 This was an email, this last one.

02:16:09.000 They wanted you as a PR name.

02:16:11.000 Say we contacted John McAfee and he's given us great advice and don't worry, everything's going to be fine.

02:16:11.000 As a PR name.

02:16:16.000 But it's not.

02:16:17.000 And so I don't want to be involved.

02:16:18.000 Did you give him the advice you gave Art Lister?

02:16:20.000 Scrap it?

02:16:21.000 Well, they know that.

02:16:22.000 I've been saying that in the press for a week now.

02:16:25.000 So yeah, they have to scrap it.

02:16:26.000 And they're not going to listen to that.

02:16:28.000 Or at least scrap the front end.

02:16:30.000 Well, how do you have a website based on a law?

02:16:33.000 It's got to follow this cockamamie law.

02:16:35.000 Well, that's the other problem here.

02:16:37.000 Technology within the government.

02:16:39.000 There are 6,000 pages of regulations for how you develop technological programs.

02:16:45.000 And it takes years to write those regulations.

02:16:48.000 Technology is an area where every year you throw your cell phone away because it's out of date and you get a new one with new features.

02:16:55.000 Technology is advancing rapidly.

02:16:57.000 The regulations are years old.

02:16:59.000 How on earth can you develop a high-tech program using regulations that take three years to write?

02:17:05.000 That's the fundamental problem.

02:17:06.000 It has to be simplified.

02:17:07.000 Throw the regulations out.

02:17:09.000 Trust the people that you're contracting with.

02:17:12.000 Get American companies to produce the thing.

02:17:14.000 And let's get real here.

02:17:17.000 Well, there are laws that most of our tech that's government-funded should come from the U.S., but they religiously ignore it because of globalism.

02:17:25.000 They want to de-industrialize this country so they can pick the winners and losers.

02:17:29.000 Absolutely.

02:17:30.000 But given that, then you can't complain when your systems don't work.

02:17:30.000 Absolutely.

02:17:34.000 You can't complain when... And I'm not putting down Indians, by the way, or India.

02:17:38.000 They are very intelligent people and great programmers.

02:17:41.000 But CGI takes them and puts them through a three month training class.

02:17:44.000 Three months.

02:17:45.000 And expects them to now produce miracle code.

02:17:48.000 And then connect it with all the other code.

02:17:48.000 It doesn't work that way.

02:17:50.000 And connect it with all the other code.

02:17:51.000 It's like, sure, that's a very cheap way of doing it.

02:17:53.000 And you're going to get a lot of code.

02:17:55.000 But then how on earth do you fix it?

02:17:56.000 This is the problem.

02:17:57.000 But I've talked to programmers that say, and now it's in the news, that it's just gibberish, a lot of it.

02:18:02.000 Like people just gave up and delivered crap.

02:18:04.000 They did because they were under the gun for time.

02:18:06.000 It has to be done.

02:18:07.000 I know how that works.

02:18:07.000 It has to be done.

02:18:08.000 You're a programmer and you don't even understand what the problem is and you're trying to fix it.

02:18:12.000 And your boss says, get it done by Friday.

02:18:14.000 Well, you get it done by Friday and you turn it and you hope no one ever runs that program to find out that it doesn't work.

02:18:20.000 That's like homework you do on the school bus.

02:18:22.000 That's it.

02:18:23.000 On the way, on the way.

02:18:24.000 You're scribbling as fast as you can go.

02:18:26.000 I hope, I hope the teacher doesn't read this.

02:18:28.000 But unfortunately, we do on these programs and we are going to get found out.

02:18:32.000 Well yeah, I mean it's not like Common Core where they teach the kids 2 plus 2 equals 4.

02:18:36.000 A computer's got to have it right or it won't work.

02:18:39.000 And 100% right.

02:18:39.000 Absolutely.

02:18:41.000 Exactly.

02:18:42.000 I guess the banksters and the globalists have finally tried to feed their con artist bull into a computer.

02:18:48.000 That's it.

02:18:48.000 And it's not working.

02:18:49.000 It's certainly not working the way this was implemented.

02:18:52.000 So what do you think is going to happen?

02:18:54.000 He's now trying to blame Republicans and people that don't like socialist health care for the website failing.

02:18:59.000 He did that in a speech today.

02:19:00.000 Well, you know, you can blame the manager of the technological program and nothing else.

02:19:05.000 CGI is responsible, period, for delivering a working program.

02:19:10.000 They did not because, really, it was unrealistic given the way that they did it.

02:19:15.000 And they did it in order to make money.

02:19:17.000 I understand that.

02:19:18.000 You've got a certain income.

02:19:19.000 You have $100 million that the government's paying you.

02:19:21.000 If you can get it done for $500,000, you have a 99.5% profit margin.

02:19:27.000 But now CGI is going to get more money to fix it.

02:19:30.000 And they're going to use the same programmers because you can't use new ones to fix an existing program.

02:19:30.000 Which they can't.

02:19:36.000 If they threw it out, grab some really decent programmers.

02:19:39.000 I mean, top-notch programmers.

02:19:41.000 Don't tell them how to fix it.

02:19:43.000 We want it to fail.

02:19:44.000 Anyway, it doesn't matter.

02:19:47.000 John McAfee, we're going to break.

02:19:48.000 Incredible to have this guy in studio with us.

02:19:51.000 We're going to come back and let him continue on that point in the NSA, his device he's coming up with very soon that I hope to sell here, and a lot more.

02:19:59.000 Stay with us.

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02:24:07.000 John McAfee is really amazing in person.

02:24:17.000 And you saw the media hype and the demonization of him When it was down in Belize.

02:24:23.000 But we need to do a part two, maybe for the Nightly News with you, where we go back and show how all the stuff you talked about with us earlier this year, or I guess last year, all of it later turned out to come out.

02:24:33.000 It was like a James Bond movie or something.

02:24:36.000 So we'll have an update in the next segment with Mr. McAfee with us.

02:24:39.000 Again, I'm Alex Jones, if you just tuned in.

02:24:42.000 But continuing with healthcare.gov, I mean, I understand as a top programmer, You know, reportedly genius level by the media and all the stuff you've invented over the years, that you look at this and you say, it could be fixed.

02:24:53.000 My issue is, I've talked to other programmers that are very smart as well, they say there's no way government didn't know this was a piece of crap and wasn't going to work.

02:25:02.000 What do you think's really going on here?

02:25:04.000 Well, I mean, obviously.

02:25:05.000 I mean, any sane person is going to test what they have developed at least one time.

02:25:11.000 And usually you test it for many, many months.

02:25:13.000 And if the government has any interest in this program, then they had to have people monitoring the development.

02:25:18.000 So of course they knew it wasn't going to work.

02:25:20.000 Or they didn't bother to test it at all.

02:25:22.000 This is the bizarre truth of the issue.

02:25:26.000 So, I don't know what's going on.

02:25:27.000 I do know that what happened is unthinkable if it were being managed by a true technological manager.

02:25:35.000 They would not let this happen.

02:25:36.000 You build the program, you design it, you go through an alpha test period for a few months, which is, you know, you have a few people logging in, then a beta test where you simulate massive amounts of input.

02:25:48.000 And then you fix the problems and you roll it out.

02:25:50.000 Clearly they didn't go through any of that.

02:25:52.000 This is not the normal way of developing software.

02:25:57.000 I don't know what it is, but I've never seen it before.

02:26:01.000 I keep going back over this because it's just the whole thing is so, not Orwellian, more Twilight Zone because Obama's up there saying it's a great deal and exceeding expectations and just bizarreness.

02:26:13.000 It'd be like if my wife came home and I was in bed with seven women and I got up and said, honey, I've never cheated on you, baby.

02:26:20.000 I mean, it's just the level of BS.

02:26:24.000 Well, you know, by the way, that is the standard approach.

02:26:27.000 I mean, if your wife does catch you in bed with a woman, you deny it.

02:26:31.000 Never ever admit.

02:26:32.000 So I guess it is, like Bill Clinton said, deny, deny, deny.

02:26:36.000 So I guess it is literally, what's the term they use for that in the Pentagon?

02:26:40.000 Gaslighting.

02:26:41.000 That's it.

02:26:42.000 That's it.

02:26:43.000 So, you know, I really don't have a clue.

02:26:45.000 I am not politically connected.

02:26:47.000 I can tell you everything you need to know about computers, software, networking, security, but I don't have a clue.

02:26:53.000 What do you think about... Something's wrong and it's not going the way it should.

02:26:57.000 What do you...

02:26:58.000 What do you think about the whole NSA thing being exposed?

02:27:00.000 We know that's been going on for a long time, but why now is it getting exposed, and where do you think it's going?

02:27:05.000 Well, it's getting exposed because someone, Edward Snowden, said something and showed us.

02:27:11.000 Now, he's hiding out in Russia now, unfortunately Russia.

02:27:14.000 However, why are we worrying about the NSA?

02:27:16.000 It's every single covert agency of the government, and there are 15 or 20 of those agencies.

02:27:21.000 And you know for a fact that if one agency is spying on us, that they're all spying on us.

02:27:26.000 This is a fact.

02:27:27.000 And they all share information, so the CIA, the FBI, Army Intelligence, they're all watching us.

02:27:34.000 I know this, I've known this for years.

02:27:36.000 If I say something, people go, oh, you're paranoid, you're crazy.

02:27:39.000 And it takes someone like Snowden to pop up and show us, and we go, oh my God, the NSA is spying on us.

02:27:44.000 Well, duh!

02:27:45.000 They have been for years.

02:27:45.000 Of course they are.

02:27:48.000 Well, talking about CGI, they do the Pentagon's most complex systems, so they obviously knew this wasn't going to work, so therefore it was done by design to put off Obamacare and only bring in the fine part.

02:28:00.000 I think clearly it's just there to fine people.

02:28:02.000 It's entirely possible.

02:28:03.000 I don't know for a fact, but something is going on that is not sensible.

02:28:09.000 Not to the mind of someone who has been developing systems like this their whole life.

02:28:13.000 So you could be absolutely right.

02:28:14.000 Let's shift gears into your device.

02:28:18.000 I can't wait till this comes out.

02:28:20.000 We were talking during the break about the government won't be your biggest problem.

02:28:22.000 Who will be your biggest problem with your device that blocks the NSA?

02:28:26.000 I think the music industry and the TV industry.

02:28:28.000 They are so paranoid about intellectual property.

02:28:34.000 That is, please don't let anybody make one copy of my music or my video.

02:28:39.000 And yet statistically, I mean if you look at the figures, The music industry and the television industry and the movie industry has never made more money than they are today with all of the piracy that's going on.

02:28:51.000 And also statistics say that people who pirate videos are the most purchasers.

02:28:58.000 They pay them more money for the ones that they do want.

02:29:00.000 So they have no reason to be doing what they're doing.

02:29:03.000 But I guarantee you there's already been comments made that this is a dangerous product and a dangerous idea that they're going to try and block it.

02:29:10.000 I want to talk about this when we come back in the long segment because it tortures me.

02:29:14.000 I have an old TV, not that old, like five, six years, that has a DVD player on the side that I've run in the garage and the treadmill.

02:29:20.000 It broke.

02:29:22.000 That DVD player.

02:29:24.000 So I went and got another one plugged it in and it gave me a message and said, you're not allowed to run another device in this anti-piracy.

02:29:29.000 And these are bought DVDs.

02:29:31.000 Right, I understand.

02:29:32.000 And then I have all this other equipment in here for TV where we're trying to put on a show and I'll buy the equipment.

02:29:37.000 It's my show.

02:29:38.000 It won't let it run over a television.

02:29:39.000 Right, and I can buy a DVD from Australia and pay for it legitimately and it will not run on my American DVD player because it's a different region.

02:29:47.000 So it's stopping technological development so that they can kleptocratically make more money and instead they're screwing up all the devices like Dr. Stallman talks about.

02:29:57.000 We'll be right back, stay with us.

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02:34:08.000 We're going to talk to John in a minute before we get back into his new device he's developing.

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02:36:22.000 John McAfee is here with us, and whoismcafee.com is his site.

02:36:26.000 So we got cut off by the break.

02:36:29.000 You were getting into your device.

02:36:30.000 I mean, tell the audience as much as you can tell them.

02:36:32.000 You were telling me quite a bit, but I don't know if that was in confidence, about how revolutionary but also simple this is going to be and what it's going to do.

02:36:42.000 The device is basically a hardware device that interfaces with your smartphone.

02:36:47.000 You carry it in your pocket.

02:36:48.000 It has no screen.

02:36:49.000 It has an on-off switch and a little light to show that the battery is running and that's it.

02:36:54.000 And we have an application that runs on your iPhone or your Android phone that when you want to switch from the internet to the secure network, you press a button and then you're now in our network, which is anybody else who has one of these devices within a quarter of a mile, you're communicating.

02:37:11.000 And if you're in a city or a college campus, there may be thousands of those that are close by.

02:37:16.000 Um, it's an information sharing network, it's a file sharing network.

02:37:19.000 So it's like a new internet or a private?

02:37:20.000 It's a new internet and it'll start out small of course because everyone won't have these things.

02:37:25.000 But eventually, I mean, you switch from the current internet to the secure internet over and over and over and to begin with you might not be able to communicate with someone in India, but after a year when we get enough of these and the information is relayed, Then it'll be just like the internet.

02:37:40.000 But it'll be able to get on the net as the first reason to then protect your identity.

02:37:44.000 That's... Absolutely.

02:37:45.000 It protects your identity and when you're on the secure part of the network, no one knows who you are.

02:37:50.000 All of the data is encrypted and it's encrypted by a technique that the NSA has not been involved in, so they can't break it, they can't get into it.

02:37:58.000 And neither the sender nor the receiver... Let me guess, does it have to deal with holograms?

02:38:03.000 It does not, no sir.

02:38:04.000 Okay.

02:38:05.000 I was trying to... If it did, I wouldn't tell you, would I?

02:38:08.000 No, no, I was talking to my dad about this, and he said, I bet it's a hologram interface.

02:38:13.000 My dad's smarter than I am in some ways, but go ahead.

02:38:15.000 No, so I'm not going to say for the simple reason that we don't want people to know.

02:38:22.000 So it's going to be very secure.

02:38:23.000 So neither the NSA, nor the CIA, nor the FBI, nor Army Intelligence, nor anyone can find out who you're talking to, what you're saying, and what you're exchanging, which is really what we should have that right anyway.

02:38:35.000 Now, you're a trailblazer in your own right, obviously, but other great minds are going to hear this, or they probably already thought of it.

02:38:41.000 Even if they try to stop you selling this here domestically, it's going to be a huge international market, and then other people are going to make clones, or knockoffs, and then other technologies.

02:38:49.000 They're not going to be able to stop this.

02:38:51.000 Well, they may stop me temporarily, of course.

02:38:54.000 They may say, you can't sell this.

02:38:56.000 And I'll say, fine.

02:38:58.000 Your control stops at your boundaries.

02:39:00.000 You have Canada and Mexico in the ocean.

02:39:02.000 I'll sell it everywhere else.

02:39:04.000 It will have to get here eventually.

02:39:05.000 Any technology which is beneficial will eventually get here.

02:39:08.000 We know that.

02:39:09.000 It just may take time.

02:39:10.000 The music industry is going to raise hell and complain.

02:39:14.000 The movie industry is going to complain.

02:39:16.000 You know, intellectual property has been way overplayed by them for the past 10 years.

02:39:22.000 Well, think about it.

02:39:23.000 They're trying to get world treaties that end free speech globally for them.

02:39:27.000 They are encroaching on our rights in the name of their rights.

02:39:30.000 I'm sick of it.

02:39:32.000 Absolutely.

02:39:33.000 And so, they are shutting down operations that are valid, useful things.

02:39:39.000 It's like shutting down telephones.

02:39:41.000 Because criminals are using it to covertly rob banks or whatever.

02:39:46.000 We can't protect ourselves to the point that we can't even use technology.

02:39:46.000 It's insane.

02:39:51.000 Well, folks used to hack with a telephone.

02:39:53.000 I mean, do you ban using telephones?

02:39:55.000 That's right.

02:39:55.000 In fact, the first one to do so was a gentleman named Captain Crunch, who got these little whistles.

02:40:00.000 And he learned how to make tones on it for the old telephone so that he could make free long-distance calls.

02:40:06.000 That was the first telephone hacking.

02:40:07.000 Well, we didn't shut down the phones because of that.

02:40:10.000 We didn't.

02:40:10.000 We just arrested him.

02:40:12.000 Isn't that the sensible thing to do?

02:40:14.000 But now they're wanting us to shut down technologies like file sharing, which is very useful for everything.

02:40:19.000 You have files, you've got photographs that you take on vacation that you want to share with your friends.

02:40:24.000 You put it out in the cloud and they can share it.

02:40:25.000 Do you want to stop that because people can put music that they haven't paid for on the net?

02:40:31.000 You can't have prior restraint.

02:40:31.000 That's right.

02:40:34.000 I ran into anti-gun people at our Alamo open carry this Saturday and they said, You know, my daughter got shot at Aurora, and I said, I'm sorry for your daughter, but statistically, crimes using guns are down 49% because of good guys having guns, just department numbers.

02:40:51.000 They didn't even deny that, but they still said, well, it's still gun owner's fault this happened.

02:40:55.000 And I said, if somebody stabs somebody, is it the knife maker's fault?

02:41:00.000 Or if I sell somebody a car, and they drive down the road and kill somebody, this putting the guilt on us when we didn't do it, it's just crazy.

02:41:08.000 It's an authoritarianism!

02:41:10.000 Absolutely.

02:41:11.000 You know, I've owned and carried guns ever since I was 12 when my father took me hunting for the first time.

02:41:16.000 And he taught me how to handle guns properly, and not to point them at people, and how to load them and unload them.

02:41:21.000 And seriously, for the past 10 years, I have never been without a gun, except when I shower.

02:41:27.000 And when I get paranoid sometimes, I don't shower, so my wife complains.

02:41:30.000 And I've never pointed a gun at anyone.

02:41:33.000 Certainly never shot at anybody.

02:41:36.000 But it is, to me, a deterrent if we all carry guns.

02:41:39.000 I lived in a town called Rodeo, New Mexico.

02:41:42.000 A small town of a couple of hundred people.

02:41:44.000 Everybody was armed there.

02:41:45.000 Everybody.

02:41:46.000 Well, they never had a problem.

02:41:46.000 I love it!

02:41:48.000 They never had a robbery in the grocery store.

02:41:50.000 They never had anything.

02:41:51.000 A criminal coming through town that, you know, pulls a gun out at a cafe.

02:41:56.000 All the customers are going to pull a gun.

02:41:58.000 Criminals are on record that they don't go to small towns and rural areas because they know.

02:42:03.000 They know.

02:42:04.000 And so what's wrong with that?

02:42:05.000 And there's no violent crime there.

02:42:06.000 We all carry guns, but I never saw a gun pulled and pointed.

02:42:09.000 Well, you asked permission.

02:42:10.000 If you could, you know, like, hey, I'm bringing a gun.

02:42:12.000 We're like, well, you better.

02:42:13.000 Right.

02:42:14.000 So don't try anything here, they said.

02:42:14.000 That's what they said.

02:42:16.000 We're all armed.

02:42:17.000 Well, no, but I mean, for us it's like having a pencil or a coffee cup.

02:42:20.000 It's a tool.

02:42:21.000 I sleep with mine.

02:42:22.000 Now, I stopped sleeping with it in my hand for obvious reasons, okay?

02:42:26.000 But I sleep with it.

02:42:27.000 Oh, then it gets all lonely.

02:42:28.000 Yeah, you know what?

02:42:30.000 Nightmares and things like that, it's pretty scary.

02:42:33.000 No more.

02:42:33.000 It's not going to be in your hand anymore.

02:42:37.000 If I lay it next to me here on the bed, that's okay.

02:42:40.000 Um, but I'm always with a gun.

02:42:43.000 And why not?

02:42:43.000 I mean, the criminals have guns.

02:42:45.000 Well, off record, you've had a lot of issues, obviously.

02:42:49.000 Of course.

02:42:50.000 And I, you know, I mean, for a month and a half, the Belizean government was actively trying to shoot me.

02:42:55.000 And why shouldn't I carry guns?

02:42:57.000 And why shouldn't I be able to protect myself?

02:42:59.000 Well, why are they allowed to have guns, but we aren't?

02:43:01.000 That's the problem, isn't it?

02:43:02.000 And here's the thing.

02:43:03.000 If you pass a law saying we can't have guns, I promise you, the criminals don't care.

02:43:07.000 They're already breaking the law.

02:43:08.000 Do you think they care if they're carrying an illegal weapon?

02:43:11.000 That's so absurd.

02:43:12.000 So we're not going to take it out of the hands of the people who are going to do damage with guns.

02:43:16.000 We're taking it out of the hands of people who protect themselves from those people who are trying to do damage.

02:43:21.000 So, I don't know.

02:43:23.000 I'm going to have my gun in my hand except when I'm sleeping, or in my pocket.

02:43:27.000 I've got one here now, obviously.

02:43:28.000 As long as I can, because it's my right.

02:43:34.000 But it goes back to rural areas where you had grizzly bears, or the immigrants were fighting with the natives.

02:43:40.000 It came down to you better have a gun on you or you could get killed.

02:43:43.000 Or you would get killed.

02:43:44.000 It's a fact of life.

02:43:45.000 I mean, you know, the world is a dangerous place, especially outside of our comfort zone.

02:43:50.000 Well, here's my issue.

02:43:51.000 We're not worried about death threats around here and stuff, because somebody ever tries to come around here with something, I mean, anybody wants to carry a gun in their briefcase, or CHL, you name it, folks are packing around here.

02:44:01.000 And that's just the way it is, and it's peaceful, it's happy, and everybody's friendly.

02:44:01.000 Right.

02:44:04.000 Right.

02:44:04.000 If someone does come in here, I'll stand with you with my gun, alright?

02:44:11.000 Ready to go.

02:44:12.000 You know, I like revolvers myself, just because they're, you know, you know.

02:44:16.000 I do too, and I prefer the hammerless.

02:44:17.000 Oh, really?

02:44:18.000 I didn't even know that's what you had.

02:44:19.000 Well, I've got all kinds of guns.

02:44:21.000 I carry different guns for different occasions.

02:44:23.000 Here, I'll let you... I notice yours is not.

02:44:23.000 It's loaded.

02:44:25.000 There you go.

02:44:26.000 Alright.

02:44:27.000 I like a .357 just because in a stressful situation.

02:44:31.000 Oh yeah, oh yeah.

02:44:33.000 A .357, you know, in a stressful situation is good.

02:44:35.000 It's got the best penetration for something like this.

02:44:37.000 No question, but that's a little lighter to carry.

02:44:40.000 It's beautiful, it's beautiful.

02:44:41.000 So, and the hammerless variety, you know, so many times you pull your gun out of your pocket, not to point it at someone, just at the end of the day, and the hammer gets caught on your pocket.

02:44:48.000 But look at our guns!

02:44:49.000 They're friendly.

02:44:49.000 They're hanging out together right there.

02:44:52.000 We got a document cam shot on that?

02:44:54.000 In fact, we'll put them over here by you, and they can just have some time together.

02:44:59.000 Look at that, that's like powerful, they're like exchanging.

02:45:03.000 I have some .357s too.

02:45:04.000 I tell you what the finest little carry gun is, is the new Ruger, that little micro .380.

02:45:09.000 It doesn't carry a bunch of a punch, but you know.

02:45:12.000 One of my friend's wives carries that in her purse.

02:45:15.000 Yeah, well I carry one in each pocket sometimes.

02:45:17.000 Because they're so light you can't see them, you don't even know you're carrying them.

02:45:21.000 Um, you know, seven rounds, 380, 380's not a bad gun.

02:45:24.000 James Bond used the Beretta 380, remember that, in the first James Bond movie?

02:45:28.000 They tried to give him a different gun.

02:45:30.000 You're like an adventurer, aren't you?

02:45:32.000 What made you go down to Belize?

02:45:34.000 I guess adventure.

02:45:35.000 Why not?

02:45:37.000 You know, I think we might live once, just once.

02:45:40.000 And if that's the case, I don't want to miss anything.

02:45:42.000 I don't want to miss anything, Alex.

02:45:45.000 Without getting into your security and things, you're traveling around the U.S.

02:45:49.000 I am.

02:45:49.000 right now?

02:45:50.000 I'm traveling with security.

02:45:52.000 And because of an incident that happened recently, I've beefed it up, and I'm traveling with some very serious security now.

02:45:58.000 I did notice that.

02:45:59.000 Well, that's a good thing.

02:46:01.000 But, I mean, going back, obviously you were a computer programmer, I think worked at NASA in places, going over your bio.

02:46:07.000 I mean, do you have any shadowy background that you think they might be after you for?

02:46:10.000 I mean, not shadowy bad, but secretive stuff.

02:46:15.000 Well, I mean, I had a top-secret security clearance for a while when I worked at NASA.

02:46:19.000 And I did work on some black programs, but nothing that anyone wanted to off me for.

02:46:23.000 I think my biggest concern is Belize.

02:46:26.000 You know, I ran afoul of the Belizean government.

02:46:29.000 And I came back and I stated some things that maybe should not have been stated.

02:46:33.000 That the Prime Minister ordered the death of Arthur Young.

02:46:36.000 That John Salivar was selling passports illegally.

02:46:40.000 And this is the Minister of National Security, he's in charge of the army and the police and of course the Prime Minister is in charge of everything.

02:46:47.000 They're not happy about that and they're afraid that if I provide more evidence the entire government will unravel.

02:46:53.000 So obviously I have to think that maybe in the back of their minds they would feel better if I wasn't here.

02:47:01.000 Well I know you talk... Is that paranoia?

02:47:03.000 May I ask you?

02:47:03.000 No I don't think that's paranoia.

02:47:05.000 Knowing what goes on in the government of Belize, what it's used for, how famously piratical it is, I don't know about those individuals, but I know that certainly I would be concerned if I had the entire Belizean mafia-style government angry at me.

02:47:19.000 Right.

02:47:20.000 And the other thing is that they have a longer reach than you might imagine.

02:47:24.000 For example, there are American businesses that would love to do business in Belize for a lot of reasons.

02:47:29.000 You can do illegal things there if you pay the right people and your profits can soar.

02:47:35.000 In fact, the Belizean soccer team came to Portland, where I live, in July.

02:47:40.000 That's kind of weird, isn't it?

02:47:41.000 To play soccer.

02:47:41.000 And with them, there was an American businessman who had a private jet, who was flying around John Salvador, and two other people, the head of the press office in Belize and a city councilman named Dean Samuels.

02:47:56.000 And, um, you know, you look at that and think, well, you know, I don't know, why did they come to my city?

02:48:00.000 Why did the head of national security come to my town way up there, you know?

02:48:03.000 So I'm thinking, well, I don't know, maybe I should be cautious.

02:48:06.000 And I am cautious.

02:48:07.000 I don't call that paranoia.

02:48:08.000 Well, I mean, you'd be stupid if you weren't concerned.

02:48:10.000 And so as a result, when I go somewhere, people arrive in advance.

02:48:10.000 I would be stupid.

02:48:14.000 They check things out.

02:48:15.000 They look to see if anything unusual is happening.

02:48:18.000 I change venues constantly.

02:48:20.000 I tell them I'm going to be staying at one hotel and check into another.

02:48:23.000 And when I arrive, I arrive with some serious security.

02:48:27.000 Well, I mean, going back to Belize, you were talking about Muslims in certain countries and riots, and it was nowhere in the press, and then it had to be four months later, exactly what you said about that came out, and you said that's one of the reasons they were after you.

02:48:43.000 I mean, do you now know, have you figured out, out of all the reasons, why you think folks were after you?

02:48:48.000 They're asking because of what I knew.

02:48:50.000 Because, you know, when they raided my compound in Orange Walk in May, shot my dog in front of my eyes, did a half million dollars worth of damage, kept me handcuffed in the sun for 14 hours.

02:49:01.000 By the way, I don't recommend that as something to do for fun, Alex.

02:49:05.000 That does hurt, believe me.

02:49:05.000 Well, that hurts!

02:49:07.000 I tried not to whimper the whole day and I didn't.

02:49:10.000 And then left, and then came back and said, you know, are you going to reconsider giving us a donation to the party?

02:49:18.000 And I go, no I'm not.

02:49:19.000 I went to the press.

02:49:21.000 At that point, I started handing out presents.

02:49:23.000 Computers that I had my own software on just to monitor things.

02:49:27.000 I gave them to all the government ministers and their secretaries and their aides.

02:49:32.000 And that's how I found out what was happening.

02:49:34.000 So you gave them a Trojan horse.

02:49:36.000 You made them think they'd won.

02:49:37.000 You started giving them goodies.

02:49:39.000 Absolutely.

02:49:40.000 And just like the general public, they just take devices.

02:49:42.000 They take devices.

02:49:43.000 They don't think.

02:49:43.000 They don't think, well, who is this man?

02:49:44.000 Well, I'm John McAfee, for heaven's sake.

02:49:46.000 I invented computer security.

02:49:48.000 You think I can't turn on your microphone on your laptop in your office and watch what you're doing?

02:49:53.000 That's so trivial.

02:49:54.000 Anybody can do it.

02:49:56.000 So, maybe in retrospect it may have been a mistake.

02:50:00.000 Because then you learned all the secrets.

02:50:01.000 You were like your own private NSA.

02:50:02.000 I learned all the stuff that's going on and it was scary.

02:50:05.000 And then I came back and I made the mistake of actually telling it on the blog.

02:50:09.000 And so, yeah, you know, you would be paranoid, too, if, you know, these people came up to your town, and some shady American businessman with a private jet flying them all over America, showing up in your town, is like, whoa!

02:50:22.000 So, you know, maybe the next time I'm on your show, we will discuss this in greater detail.

02:50:26.000 It might make a really nice show.

02:50:29.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:50:30.000 I tell you.

02:50:32.000 Because an event did actually happen recently that caused me to more than double my security and start asking a bunch of very hard questions.

02:50:41.000 I bet they're not happy they messed with you though.

02:50:45.000 If they wouldn't have done that to your dog and all that stuff, would everything be fine?

02:50:47.000 They didn't shot my dog.

02:50:49.000 I think we could have fixed it.

02:50:50.000 But you don't shoot my dogs.

02:50:52.000 My dogs are family.

02:50:53.000 You know, I don't know how you feel about animals, but a dog is... Oh, I love dogs.

02:50:58.000 Well, you know, they're a member of the family.

02:51:00.000 They provide protection.

02:51:01.000 I think they're maybe the best members of my family.

02:51:03.000 Well, certainly the most loyal member.

02:51:04.000 Exactly.

02:51:05.000 I promise you, he's never going to turn on you.

02:51:07.000 Exactly.

02:51:07.000 We'll be right back.

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02:54:16.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

02:54:19.000 Technology is rapidly increasing, to say the least.

02:54:31.000 Some people like Ray Kurzweil believe that there's going to be a singularity.

02:54:34.000 I believe you'll have a singularity in information and news first, or something approximating that, something getting close to it.

02:54:42.000 Where, no matter what the system does, they're not going to be able to hide stuff anymore.

02:54:46.000 And when they try to put out disinfo, that's going to be exposed.

02:54:48.000 That's already happening.

02:54:49.000 The Pentagon PSYOPs head came out a few months ago and said they're in deep trouble.

02:54:53.000 They're ordered to lie to the public and the public's catching them.

02:54:56.000 And the Pentagon said, we want to stop lying.

02:54:58.000 And there were people freaking out during the Pentagon briefing that was streamed on the internet.

02:55:02.000 Getting up and saying, we don't want to lie anymore.

02:55:03.000 I mean, it was real.

02:55:04.000 Sure.

02:55:04.000 But I think at the higher level, they told them to do it to try to get people's confidence to go, we promise we won't lie anymore.

02:55:10.000 But here is Ray Kurzweil, one of the Google execs, saying, meet the Google executive who plans to cheat death.

02:55:17.000 Ray Kurzweil takes 150 vitamins a day so he can hold out long enough for invention of robots that'll keep humans alive.

02:55:23.000 Now whether this is real or not, In my film, Endgame, that I made seven years ago, I show all the quotes.

02:55:28.000 They say humans are bad.

02:55:30.000 They're going to establish world government, forcibly reduce world population.

02:55:34.000 They're going to merge with machines and live forever.

02:55:36.000 I didn't say that, as the New York Times said.

02:55:38.000 I was quoting Kurzweil and others.

02:55:40.000 Here he is back in the news today.

02:55:42.000 This is the Daily Mail.

02:55:44.000 What do you think of these things?

02:55:47.000 Because whether it's feasible down the road or not, these people are maniacs who are anti-human.

02:55:53.000 What is your take on it?

02:55:54.000 Well, you know, in one respect, I admire Kurzweil because he developed some great musical devices.

02:56:05.000 And a copy machine or a bunch of other stuff?

02:56:06.000 I'm not sure about the copy machine.

02:56:07.000 Well, a modern one.

02:56:09.000 He's a scanner.

02:56:10.000 He's a brilliant man.

02:56:11.000 There's no question about it.

02:56:14.000 I don't want to merge with the machine, quite frankly.

02:56:16.000 I would rather become a little more human than I even am.

02:56:18.000 I think we become machines by spending our days watching the television instead of watching the world around us.

02:56:24.000 I agree.

02:56:25.000 And I think that there's so much of modern life which turns us into machines that why bother making a mechanical device to connect with us?

02:56:32.000 We're already halfway machines.

02:56:33.000 I'd like to go the other way.

02:56:34.000 And let's get a little more human.

02:56:36.000 Let's have more personal face-to-face communication.

02:56:39.000 And let's get out and shoot.

02:56:40.000 Or do what we like to do.

02:56:42.000 Or just get some fresh air.

02:56:43.000 Jog around the block.

02:56:44.000 How much of that is happening these days?

02:56:46.000 It's less and less and less.

02:56:48.000 And when it does happen, it's structured and it's formalized.

02:56:51.000 Um, so, you know... Yeah, it's called quality time to take your kids out in nature.

02:56:55.000 Well, quality time should be every moment of life, as I understand it.

02:56:59.000 Every single moment.

02:57:00.000 And if you're not having quality time 24 hours a day, do something else, Alex.

02:57:05.000 I agree.

02:57:06.000 The revolution against tyrants is having fun, having friends, and not being in the cookie-cutter system.

02:57:12.000 Exactly.

02:57:12.000 That's it.

02:57:13.000 You know, getting into real life.

02:57:15.000 And take some risks, because any quality time is risky.

02:57:19.000 It means you've got to get off of your comfortable sofa, out of your safe, secure house, and into a world which is unpredictable and unknown.

02:57:27.000 It's a mystery.

02:57:28.000 Well, isn't that how things were when you were a kid?

02:57:30.000 Wasn't it great to get out and explore the mystery of life, the mystery of the world?

02:57:35.000 Absolutely going to a friend's house and going out in the woods.

02:57:38.000 Sneaking on some farmer's ranch.

02:57:41.000 Picking strawberries in your neighbor's backyard at night without them knowing.

02:57:45.000 Whatever.

02:57:46.000 It's an adventure.

02:57:47.000 It's life as it should be.

02:57:49.000 We should all be children again.

02:57:50.000 They're trying to insert us into these bubbles where they bombard us with nothing but their propaganda to keep us from seeing the wider universe.

02:57:58.000 Alright, well that's how they control us, see?

02:58:00.000 If you see the wider universe, you're going to ask questions, aren't you?

02:58:02.000 Like, what the hell are you saying?

02:58:04.000 You're giving us garbage about Obamacare.

02:58:07.000 But if all we get is the news, some of us are going to believe it.

02:58:10.000 You can fool all the people some of the time.

02:58:12.000 But you're talking about singularities?

02:58:15.000 You can't fool all the people all the time.

02:58:18.000 What do you think of a singularity?

02:58:19.000 I mean, do you think that really will come?

02:58:22.000 I think it's happened in many cases.

02:58:24.000 I think this is evidence of it here.

02:58:27.000 We have something which is so obviously broken and improper that the President is saying, well, it's what I expected.

02:58:33.000 It meets expectations.

02:58:34.000 So it's a con artist singularity?

02:58:37.000 It's like a magician doing a trick.

02:58:37.000 Absolutely.

02:58:39.000 Don't watch what the left hand is doing.

02:58:41.000 And if we don't watch what the left hand is doing, we go, Hold on, we've got a one minute break.

02:58:45.000 I've got to do five minutes overdrive.

02:58:46.000 John McAfee is our guest.

02:58:47.000 WhoisMcAfee.com.

02:58:49.000 Wow!

02:58:50.000 This guy is really interesting.

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03:00:03.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Broadcasting Network.

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03:00:20.000 Well, so does he.

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03:00:25.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

03:00:30.000 Man, this is Obamacare video.

03:00:42.000 We've got it up on Infowars.com.

03:00:43.000 This woman's falling over.

03:00:44.000 She's acting like a zombie.

03:00:46.000 I mean, it's just getting weirder and weirder.

03:00:48.000 And at his events, women will start collapsing everywhere like he's Elvis Presley.

03:00:53.000 I mean, it's getting weird.

03:00:54.000 Was fainting woman an Obamacare-staged event, Steve Watson asked, up on Infowars.com.

03:01:01.000 Bizarre mind control caught on camera with a woman saying that Congress is the devil.

03:01:05.000 She's like programmed and goes into some trance.

03:01:07.000 I don't usually cover stuff like this, but it's so weird.

03:01:09.000 Top Democrat opens the door for Social Security cuts, Curt Nemob.

03:01:13.000 I never got to this today, but we'll play it on the nightly news or get Mark Dyson tomorrow.

03:01:17.000 Americans signed petition to support Nazi-style alerting in police state.

03:01:21.000 They're asked that if it's for Obama.

03:01:23.000 So it's what you were just saying before the break, John McAvee, legendary programmer and the inventor of antivirus software.

03:01:29.000 I mean, the whole concept is here with us.

03:01:33.000 We've only got four minutes left.

03:01:35.000 You were talking about the singularity of BS we've reached.

03:01:38.000 Where now they say, this Obamacare is wonderful, the site works better than we thought.

03:01:45.000 Are they trying to overthrow reality by almost polluting things with so much disinfo?

03:01:50.000 People kind of going to learn helplessness?

03:01:52.000 Well, you know, at first they do, but I think you're going to find something else.

03:01:56.000 You know, the common man ultimately is smarter than we give them credit for.

03:02:01.000 At some point, everyone is going to look at each other and think, wait a minute, the emperor has no clothes.

03:02:07.000 Everybody says, okay, he's dressed and the child's going to say, look, the emperor's naked.

03:02:07.000 You know, it doesn't matter.

03:02:12.000 The old story.

03:02:14.000 And someone's going to say, wait a minute, he just said that this thing is perfect.

03:02:18.000 It's just as expected.

03:02:20.000 And the world is saying it's broken.

03:02:23.000 So, at some point, we're all going to look at each other and go, alright, it is bullshit, isn't it?

03:02:28.000 And trust me, that's what will happen.

03:02:29.000 And that's when some, the overthrow, I don't mean the armed overthrow, I mean, we go to the polls and we call everybody and we... A mental overthrow!

03:02:38.000 A mental overthrow!

03:02:40.000 And then we look at ourselves and we take responsibility and realize what we've done.

03:02:44.000 We have allowed this to happen through fear.

03:02:47.000 We're afraid of the terrorists.

03:02:49.000 We're afraid of the Muslims.

03:02:50.000 We're afraid of everything.

03:02:51.000 And we've created, or we've allowed to be created, you know, the Homeland Security and the Transportation Security Administration.

03:02:59.000 All the things that, you know, I have to get halfway undressed every time I come, like to get here.

03:03:03.000 Halfway undressed to go through security.

03:03:05.000 Well, that's really bizarre.

03:03:07.000 And at some point we go, no, wait a minute.

03:03:09.000 I'm not going to be afraid anymore.

03:03:11.000 Recall these people.

03:03:12.000 Boot them out of office.

03:03:14.000 Let's change what's happening.

03:03:16.000 We are Americans.

03:03:16.000 We still have a Constitution.

03:03:18.000 Let's adhere to it and let's make use of it.

03:03:20.000 We have the right.

03:03:22.000 You think we can't recall our congressman?

03:03:23.000 We can.

03:03:24.000 Go to the polls.

03:03:25.000 Sign some petitions.

03:03:26.000 Get things changed.

03:03:28.000 I agree with you.

03:03:29.000 We've only got about a minute and a half left.

03:03:31.000 John McAfee here visiting us in Austin, Texas.

03:03:33.000 I think this has been a legendary interview.

03:03:34.000 Whoismcafee.com is your website.

03:03:37.000 Any other points that after this interview is over you wish you would have made?

03:03:41.000 Um, you know, I think none other than, you know, when the music industry does rise up against me, when this product comes out and says this is a dangerous product, you know, make your voices heard.

03:03:51.000 I think they're dangerous trying to bully our freedom and preemptively tie us up because we might do something wrong.

03:03:57.000 Absolutely.

03:03:58.000 They've allowed so many technologies to die because they were a threat to that industry.

03:04:04.000 I want those technologies.

03:04:05.000 I would like to have the right to freely share information.

03:04:08.000 Let me do that.

03:04:09.000 The risk, if there's a risk, well, that's too bad.

03:04:11.000 Well, if I commit something, then I get in trouble.

03:04:14.000 You don't, like John McCain said, they'll remote control kill your computer if they think you've downloaded a song illegally with no judge or jury.

03:04:21.000 They'll destroy your computer with no proof because they feel like it.

03:04:25.000 Of course.

03:04:25.000 Why not?

03:04:26.000 I mean, they have the power.

03:04:27.000 That's the issue.

03:04:28.000 They have the idea.

03:04:28.000 Well, why not?

03:04:29.000 I'm doing it for the better good of everybody.

03:04:31.000 Like, I know what you need, Alex, and I'm going to do what's right for you.

03:04:34.000 Don't you worry about thinking and choosing things for yourself.

03:04:37.000 I will decide because we know what's right.

03:04:40.000 Or they don't know what's right.

03:04:41.000 Well, that's called slavery.

03:04:43.000 That's indeed.

03:04:44.000 Slavery in every aspect.

03:04:45.000 It starts with mental slavery, where we actually believe the nonsense that we're being told.

03:04:50.000 Amazing.

03:04:51.000 John McAfee, good to know you personally.

03:04:53.000 Folks, Lord willing, we'll be back tonight, 7 o'clock Central, in full Wars Nightly News.

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03:04:59.000 And for everybody, we'll be back tomorrow, 11 a.m.

03:05:01.000 Central, with the syndicated radio broadcast, Obamacare is a dud, even if he says it isn't.

03:05:09.000 My friends, Alex Jones here to tell you about some of the most important information concerning you and your family's health.

03:05:15.000 Radiation levels have more than doubled in the last 60 years in the Northern Hemisphere from all of the nuclear testing and radiological accidents.

Alex Jones Show - October 21, 2013

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