Is it a coincidence that this is the day that President Obama announces his plan to give amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants? Or is it an act of civil unrest in America? Alex Jones and his co-host, Paul Joseph Watson, discuss the possibility that Obama is trying to start civil unrest across the country.
00:00:38.000On this Thursday, November 20th, 2014, it's Revolution Day in Mexico, and it looks like it's going to be Revolution Day in America.
00:00:46.000Now, before I get any letters or calls, I know that they celebrated on, I think it's the third Monday in November, but it was the 1910 Mexican Revolution that they have celebrated until 2006 on November 20th.
00:00:58.000Is it a coincidence that this is the day That Obama is going to announce blanket amnesty.
00:01:04.000We're going to be talking to Paul Joseph Watson.
00:01:06.000He's got an article up right now on Infowars.com.
00:01:39.000And of course we've seen that time and time again.
00:01:42.000We're also going to be talking to Our Ferguson reporters are going to be joining us later in the show as well as Anthony Gucciardi talking about health concerns, people that he's talked to, concerned that maybe we're not seeing everything that's going on with Ebola.
00:01:58.000We're also going to be talking to Arnold Abbott.
00:02:01.000Now he is the 90-year-old man in Florida.
00:02:03.000You may remember a couple of weeks ago it began.
00:02:06.000He had been feeding homeless people in Fort Lauderdale for 23 years.
00:02:11.000They passed a new ordinance saying that he believed that was targeted directly at him.
00:02:17.000Essentially saying that you can't feed people on the street where they live.
00:02:21.000You've got to go into a church building.
00:02:24.000You've got to have all these different regulations.
00:02:25.000He believes That it was something that was done by the people, the rich people, the people in control of the government, who didn't want to see homeless people on the street.
00:02:34.000He refused on principle to back down, to change this.
00:02:38.000I think it's a great example of someone standing up to government when it exceeds its moral authority.
00:02:48.000Of course, he's a World War II veteran.
00:02:50.000He's going to be joining us later in the show as well.
00:02:53.000Now, there's a lot of people, and we're going to be talking to Paul about this when we come back from break.
00:02:57.000A lot of people have a lot of concerns about what Obama is doing.
00:03:01.000And of course, it's typically portrayed as the Republicans are very concerned about this, but the Democrats are solidly behind it.
00:03:09.000No, there are a lot of Democrats who understand that this is costing them the blue-collar vote amongst whites and blacks.
00:03:17.000The number of people That he is looking at in terms of giving amnesty 5 million people plus he's saying he's going to give work permits to about another million or so.
00:03:26.000That's all the jobs that have been added since 2009.
00:03:31.000Remember when we had the massive recession, depression in 2008?
00:03:37.000Every single job that's been added since then, in terms of numbers, that would be the number of people that he'd be giving work permits to.
00:03:43.000Do we have the kind of economy that can absorb that?
00:03:46.000And of course, Obama himself, back in 2006, in his own autobiography, or perhaps it was ghostwritten, but we have him reading his probably ghostwritten autobiography, bringing up these exact same points of how it's going to hurt people who have traditionally been the Democrat base.
00:04:05.000Many Democrat politicians understand how it's hurt them as they're now out of office.
00:04:10.000So it's not exactly that the Democrats are necessarily 100% behind him.
00:04:49.000They know it's not going to go anywhere, but they'll do it for their corporate masters.
00:04:52.000They won't make a point about Obama breaking the law and acting like an emperor, but they'll do it for the Keystone Pipeline because that's what their corporate masters want.
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00:08:43.000Now, we have this article that you put up today.
00:08:45.000Is Obama trying to cause civil unrest in America?
00:08:48.000I mean, there's a lot of stuff going on right now with the Amnesty plans that are going to be announced tonight as part of the Univision coverage, I guess, of the Latin Grammys.
00:09:00.000They've got it perfectly situated so that the English news channels are not going to be covering it, but of course the Latin channels are going to be covering it.
00:09:09.000I'm wondering if, have you heard, is it going to be in English?
00:09:12.000Will it even have English subtitles maybe?
00:09:16.000Well, I mean, that's the point, David.
00:09:18.000There's a new headline out, actually, just in the last hour.
00:09:21.000Obama doesn't bother to solicit English-speaking networks for coverage.
00:09:25.000So this is basically, apart from the, you know, the broadcast channels that have chosen to pick this up, It's going to be on Univision, it's going to be at the Latin Grammys, and basically all these immigrant groups are planning parties around it.
00:09:38.000So this is specifically directed at the immigrants, it's not directed to the American people, which this will affect.
00:09:45.000And as he said, I put the article out this morning, the sentiments of which were echoed by Phyllis Schlafly, who's been a guest on this program before.
00:09:54.000She said Obama could launch another civil war by announcing this amnesty.
00:09:59.000My headline was, is Obama trying to cause civil unrest in America?
00:10:06.000You know, we've got National Guard, police, FBI across the country warning that this Officer Darren Wilson verdict, which is set to come down probably tomorrow, could cause rioting, looting and unrest.
00:10:20.000They're buying riot gear to prepare for it.
00:10:24.000Obama has chosen to announce this amnesty plan, which Senator Tom Coburn says could cause the country to quote, go nuts, could cause anarchy and violence.
00:10:36.000He's chosen to announce it at the exact same time when the FBI, when police departments across the country Or also warning and preparing for violence in relation to the outcome of the Michael Brown shooting.
00:10:48.000So, the timing is absolutely senseless, David.
00:10:51.000I mean, couldn't they have waited at least a few days to announce this?
00:10:55.000Well, yeah, but you gotta understand, Paul.
00:10:57.000Trying to polarize the country with coinciding this announcement with the Wilson verdict.
00:11:02.000You gotta understand though, Paul, this is perfect timing for them because today is Revolution Day in Mexico.
00:11:09.000November 10th, 1910 was when the Mexican Revolution started and they've celebrated on November the 20th up until 2006 and they moved it to the third Monday.
00:11:21.000This is when he's appealing to his audience.
00:11:23.000I would imagine that's probably why they have the Latin Grammys on this particular day.
00:11:29.000Nevertheless, this is his audience that he is pandering to.
00:11:33.000This is the group that he believes he's going to establish a permanent Democrat majority with, that he's going to use to fundamentally transform the country.
00:11:41.000But you know, Paul, we talk about these executive orders on immigration, but there's other executive orders as well coming down the road.
00:11:49.000The Obama administration openly talked about how they were going to move ahead with quote-unquote climate change regulation and there wasn't anything that the Republicans could do about it.
00:11:59.000They said that right after the election.
00:12:01.000So we don't care if you got majorities.
00:12:03.000We're going to move ahead with our own agenda and of course that agenda Is shutting down all of our energy resources just as they shift our jobs abroad.
00:12:12.000They want to shut down the energy resources as well.
00:12:15.000And the excuse that they're using, of course, is global warming.
00:12:18.000Before we get back to immigration, I want people to look at this video that's coming out of Buffalo.
00:13:06.000Trapped inside his West Seneca home, James Grimaldi used an aerial drone to escape his snow-covered garage, capturing this video of the avalanche of snow left behind.
00:13:18.000Driving bans still in effect as major roadways throughout the area remain at a standstill after stranded drivers were forced to abandon their snow-buried cars and trucks.
00:13:31.000Officials say it could be days before the highways are cleared and are warning residents to be careful.
00:15:26.000Even in the short term they don't work.
00:15:27.000But it makes it very difficult, Paul, to look at these models when they're predicting things that are decades out because it's difficult for you to... you basically can't disprove their models.
00:15:38.000And they say, we don't have to prove it because we are arguing from a position of authority.
00:15:45.000So you just should listen to us and do what we say.
00:15:49.000Yeah, and then the models that they did predict back in the 70s, a lot of these people who were linked to advisors in the White House like John P. Holdren and Paul Ehrlich who co-authored Ecoscience, you know, they were saying a new ice age back in the 70s.
00:16:03.000They were proven spectacularly wrong time and time again.
00:16:06.000What we do know, as you mentioned, is that Since the past, around 18 and a half years ago, there's been no measurable global warming whatsoever.
00:16:16.000Now you will get a story like it's the hottest October ever in the world, which some scientific bodies are claiming.
00:16:23.000They cite that as evidence of global warming when it's no more than evidence of weather, but then when you forward something like Look at this record snow.
00:16:32.000November looks like being one of the coldest months ever, certainly in the United States.
00:16:36.000And they say, well, that's just the weather.
00:16:38.000That's not indicative of long-term climate models.
00:16:41.000So either way, you can't win with those people.
00:16:43.000But when you do go back two decades, there's no noticeable change in global warming.
00:16:49.000So they cherry pick the evidence they want to believe.
00:16:52.000It's confirmation bias that backs up They're fear-mongering, they're hysteria about climate change while Al Gore buys, you know, oceanside mansions and uses God knows how many multiples the amount of electricity as the average American.
00:17:06.000So they're complete hypocrites and they've been proven spectacularly wrong time and time again.
00:17:12.000Yeah, when we were there, even though the long-term climate data over about a 17-year period was showing a global decline in temperatures, they were trumpeting the fact that in the United States it had been an increase in the last year.
00:17:24.000So you can pick where you measure the temperature, you can pick the time frame that you measure the temperature to try to cherry-pick those data, but I think that the real data shows that there isn't any correlation, and they believe that too.
00:17:35.000There was a George Soros organization that was there, the only political organization I saw, and they were lobbying very hard for the weathermen to get on board with climate change, saying you can shape opinion, and isn't it astounding that most weathermen don't believe in global warming?
00:17:51.000But I also want to talk about this agreement that they made.
00:17:54.000This is what it's going to look like with Obama's mandates and dictates in this area, shutting down the coal industry, shutting down energy.
00:18:02.000Now, when he made this agreement with China, here's what the agreement looks like.
00:18:06.000We have to reduce, the United States has to reduce our energy usage by 25% over the next 11 years.
00:18:14.000But China is free to grow their energy usage for the next 16 years before they cap it.
00:18:22.000We have to decline where we are in 11 years.
00:18:24.000They will be able to grow, and wherever they are in 16 years, they'll be able to cap it.
00:18:30.000Now, if it's global warming, shouldn't we be concerned about new, possibly very dirty, Chinese power plants that are being opened in that interim?
00:18:39.000See, they're not concerned about the global warming aspect of it.
00:18:42.000They just want to shut down our energy.
00:18:45.000And Paul, that gets us back to this immigration thing.
00:18:48.000This is really a Cloward and Piven strategy.
00:18:51.000This is not only bringing in a different demographic group and giving them the jobs, but it's also something that is going to swell the welfare rolls, it's going to swell the medical expenses here.
00:19:05.000This is something that social scientists talked about Centuries ago, de Tocqueville talked about it.
00:19:11.000It's sometimes attributed to another fellow, but basically, you know, we've all heard it, that democracy will only exist until people realize that they can vote themselves money out of the Treasury, at which point it will collapse.
00:19:24.000Cloward and Piven kind of formalized that and said, let's help that collapse along.
00:19:28.000Let's build an unsupportable welfare state very quickly so that we can then collapse it.
00:19:33.000That's what I believe is really behind this.
00:19:36.000Yeah, and it's like Bill Clinton said, how do you eat an elephant one bite at a time, when he was referring to gun control.
00:19:43.000Initially, these immigrants aren't going to get some of the benefits, they're not going to be covered by Obamacare.
00:19:48.000But once they get that work permit or that resident status, then that's the next stage.
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00:24:47.000We were talking, Paul and I were just talking about His announced intention to do whatever he wishes on climate change, saying that even Republican majorities in Congress aren't going to stop him.
00:25:02.000And of course, today is the day that he's going to announce what he's going to do with five million illegal immigrants, at least.
00:25:10.000Perhaps many more will be joining those ranks.
00:25:21.000Yeah, I was just making the point that a lot of this opposition, you know, for example, Ted Cruz calling Obama a monarch for utilising these executive orders unconstitutionally, a lot of it's come from Republicans, but if you actually look at what Obama said himself last year, I mean, listen to this, Obama noted that granting unilateral amnesty for adults residing in our country illegally was, quote, not an option because it would amount to, quote, ignoring the law.
00:25:49.000And on the flip side, in 2011, Obama said there are laws on the books that Congress has passed, and therefore it would not be permissible for the President to quote, suspend deportations through executive order.
00:26:01.000So on two separate occasions, Obama admitted That enacting immigration policy through executive order was, quote, ignoring the law, was unconstitutional, and was illegal.
00:26:14.000So by his own admission, with this executive order set to come down tomorrow, Obama is completely violating the law.
00:26:23.000So it's not just Republicans that are accusing him of this.
00:26:25.000In his own words, he said that that would be the case as recently as last year, and now that's exactly what he's doing.
00:26:34.000He knows that he's betraying his base.
00:26:37.000And this is something, I think this is really Paul crossing the Rubicon, you know.
00:26:40.000It's not just a political aspect, it's also a legal constitutional aspect.
00:26:47.000It has economic aspects, it has social aspects.
00:26:50.000He wants to fundamentally transform this country.
00:26:53.000And one of those ways is to say that, hey, I waited six months, I waited a year, I didn't get what I wanted out of the democratic process, out of the constitutional process, so I'm just going to put out an edict.
00:27:06.000I'm going to do whatever I wish, because I'm tired of waiting, I'm frustrated because I'm not getting the results I want.
00:27:13.000Essentially he is acting as a dictator over and over again, and we're going to see this followed up With a shutdown of our energy resources as well when he starts on these climate change mandates.
00:27:39.000The rightful remedy is for them to pass laws or to impeach this guy.
00:27:46.000Well, that would be the rightful course because we've got to remember Obama's rap sheet for impeachment is as long as my arm.
00:27:53.000I mean, you know, Benghazi, you know, aiding terrorists in Syria fast and furious, undermining the authority of Congress with regard to the attack on Libya.
00:28:01.000He's already up for all these different charges under impeachment.
00:28:04.000Now this, but the Republicans, the establishment Republicans aren't going to impeach Obama because they know that that would Absolutely.
00:28:13.000all their political capital and they fear that hillary clinton will then seize on that and use that as a launch pad to become president in 2016 as he said that's the only way that a precedent could be set that a president cannot continually violate the constitution issue executive orders throw a tantrum when he doesn't get his way act like an authoritarian dictator absolutely ramming through this amnesty and they keep telling us stop at four Four or five million.
00:28:40.000You know, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services last month issued a solicitation for 34 million blank green cards.
00:28:57.000They're going to be covered under Obamacare.
00:28:58.000And eventually it's going to be everyone sending the message that if you can get there illegally, you can become a citizen, which opens up the floodgates to all kind of social economic horrors down the line.
00:29:11.000It's not just that you're losing your job if you are a white and black, blue collar worker, or even professionals.
00:29:17.000They are going to put people on the welfare roll, as well as putting people on the job rolls.
00:29:24.000But, you know, Paul, when I look at the excuses that we hear from the GOP, of course, they're saying, we can't pass this, because it won't get any farther than the House.
00:29:34.000And yet, they have passed the Keystone Pipeline nine times they've passed it, knowing that it isn't going to get through the Senate, knowing that it would get a veto on Obama's desk, and yet they find a way to do that.
00:29:46.000They need to stand up and do the right thing and take the consequences, take it to the metal.
00:29:52.000We're going to be right back with Paul Joseph Watson.
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00:33:12.000I'm beginning a new effort to fix as much of our immigration system as I can on my own.
00:33:17.000I've also directed Secretary Johnson and Attorney General Holder to identify additional actions my administration can take on our own, within my existing legal authorities, to do what Congress refuses to do and fix as much of our immigration system as we can.
00:33:34.000From the front lines of the information war, it's Alex Jones.
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00:35:08.000Paul, we were talking just before the break about Obama acting like a dictator, acting like an emperor, and of course he's doing it on Revolution Day in Mexico.
00:35:18.000That was a day they actually overthrew their emperor, I guess he's...
00:35:22.000He's kind of taking it in the opposite way.
00:35:24.000He's trying to overthrow our social, economic, legal system so that he can essentially become an emperor.
00:35:31.000But it's not something that they run from.
00:35:32.000I want to play this clip from CNN and get your comments on it.
00:35:37.000This is Obama saying that being called, actually a spokesperson saying that being called an emperor is a criticism that the president wears with a badge of honor.
00:35:48.000Speaker Boehner has just put out a statement saying that if he does go ahead with executive action, he will have cemented his governing with lawlessness.
00:35:58.000However, others have said that it isn't necessary for the President to take this action, maybe to push Congress to go ahead and approve some type of immigration reform.
00:36:09.000Is that the purpose of him, part of it, of taking this step and taking action in trying to protect or fix what he says is wrong with the immigration system?
00:36:20.000Well, I'll say a couple things about the quote.
00:36:25.000I mean, there are a couple things that stuck out to me.
00:36:27.000The first is, again, we'll have ample opportunity to discuss the legal basis for the President's executive actions once he's announced them.
00:36:36.000You know, we've heard this kind of rhetoric about lawlessness from House Republicans for some time.
00:36:41.000I know that their most recent statement referred to Emperor Obama.
00:36:43.000You know, the fact of the matter is, you know, the President is somebody who's willing to examine the law, review the law, and use every element of that law to make progress for the American people.
00:36:53.000And that is, and if that is something that Republicans are critical of, that's, you know, maybe a criticism that the President wears with a badge of honor, I think.
00:37:04.000Well, I mean, Obama himself said, again about a year ago, I'm not a king, I'm the head of the executive branch of government, I'm required to follow the law.
00:37:15.000And again, the press secretary there says, you know, fix it for the benefit of the American people.
00:37:21.000A clear majority of Americans oppose this amnesty plan.
00:37:25.000Even almost half of Latinos oppose it.
00:37:28.000In fact, there was an NBC poll which came out just yesterday and they had to try and discredit their own poll by saying it wasn't a large enough sample size because almost half of Latinos they asked actually opposed Obama's executive agenda on amnesty.
00:37:44.000So he's not acting in the best interest of the American people by any stretch of the imagination.
00:37:49.000He was fundamentally rejected by them.
00:37:53.000And then, as you mentioned before, there's the social aspect.
00:37:56.000You know, all these sheriffs have come out over the past 24 hours and said that this is going to be a green light, a welcoming beacon for criminals to flood into the United States, because obviously a lot of the illegal immigrants have a large criminal element among them.
00:38:13.000And this is going to start to gradually tear apart the fabric of American society as it has in Europe.
00:38:20.000And I can speak On the subject from that perspective, living here, and even David Cameron and Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, have acknowledged that state-imposed multiculturalism through mass uncontrolled immigration, which is what many European countries have overseen, Doesn't work.
00:38:40.000It's a complete failure because a lot of these immigrants don't wish to assimilate.
00:38:45.000They have their own culture which they want to reinforce and it's often hostile to the native culture.
00:38:51.000So that's not right-wing political groups that have said that multiculturalism doesn't work.
00:38:56.000In Europe, heads of state have acknowledged that it hasn't worked.
00:39:00.000Well it's led to social disparity, it's led to riots in places like Sweden, in Stockholm, France, in Paris, and the UK of course back in 2011.
00:39:10.000I mean if you look at Sweden, which has completely thrown its doors wide open to illegal immigration, Now they have a situation where Swedish paramedics need body armour to enter Muslim areas of Sweden.
00:39:26.000Because these gangs, these Muslim gangs have taken over 55 areas in Sweden, these major metropolitan areas, which are now being designated as no-go zones.
00:39:37.000The government is now even debating whether to cut off services to these zones because whenever the police go in there, for any reason whatsoever, they're attacked with machetes and other weapons.
00:39:51.000Sweden has the highest rape rate in Europe.
00:39:54.000It has the second highest in the world.
00:39:57.000Double the number of rapes compared to America, and a lot of them are being carried out by these Muslim rape gangs, which people are scared to talk about in Sweden, because it's such a, you know, a liberal utopia, that in the first seven months of 2013, over 1,000 Swedish women reported being raped by these Muslim gangs in the city of Stockholm alone.
00:40:22.000Also, 300 of those cases were girls under the age of Fifteen.
00:40:29.000We've seen a huge increase in crime here.
00:40:31.000John Bowne did a report on it in North Carolina.
00:40:33.000They had somebody who was tracking it and of course they don't like to report that the crime was committed by somebody who is an illegal alien.
00:40:41.000But they went back and they were able to look closely at the records.
00:40:44.000They found hundreds of cases, as you point out, of sexual assault.
00:40:48.000Many of them on underage girls at the time.
00:40:52.000This is something that they're working very hard to cover up.
00:40:55.000And Paul, this is something that's very different in the American experience.
00:40:58.000I mean, many of us have friends and relatives who came over in the Ellis Island experiment.
00:41:03.000We always talk about the American melting pot.
00:41:06.000Those people who came over in those waves of immigration were coming to America because they believed in what America stood for.
00:41:58.000We reported on this earlier this week, the flashback with the quotes out of Obama's book in 2006 that he had somebody ghostwrite for him, and he was reading it in the audio tape.
00:42:09.000He said, Native-born Americans suspect that it is they, and not the immigrant, who are being forced to adapt to social changes caused by migration.
00:43:22.000Now it's a completely different equation.
00:43:24.000These people, just as happened in Europe over the past several decades, they're coming across to get welfare.
00:43:30.000They're coming across to be exploited, to be used.
00:43:33.000There are a ton of hard-working Mexicans now living in America that have built businesses, that have invested themselves in the American dream, that have achieved the American dream to a great extent, which is why, as I said earlier, nearly half of Latinos oppose Obama's executive amnesty, because they can differentiate between genuine, skilled, hard-working immigrants that want to contribute to the society, that want to assimilate
00:43:59.000Not ones that are an invasive force, the reconquista, the Aztlan types, that want to come in and reinforce their own culture and then be hostile to the native culture that's already there, whether that be white Americans, black Americans, Mexican Americans, whoever.
00:44:15.000People who are already invested in the system, who have built businesses.
00:44:18.000So it's not an issue of race, it never has been.
00:44:21.000It's an issue of economics, the social fabric of the country, and Obama knows that, even though he admitted in his book, like, he said, you know, even I'm uncomfortable with the guy fixing my car can't speak English.
00:44:35.000Now he appears to have completely thrown any of those concerns out the window and is acting, as Ted Cruz says, like a monarch.
00:44:43.000Yeah, let's play a quote from that book.
00:44:45.000Let's play that first quote, guys, here about the effect on blue-collar workers.
00:44:49.000Because I think this speaks to exactly the sort of thing that you were just talking about, Paul.
00:44:55.000It's whites, it's blacks, it's Mexicans who have come here legally and immigrated who are now Working, in perhaps many cases, blue-collar jobs.
00:45:04.000They're the ones who are going to be displaced in many cases by the number of people coming in.
00:45:09.000It's going to put pressure on the economic sector where they work.
00:45:16.000There's no denying that many blacks share the same anxieties as many whites about the wave of illegal immigration flooding our southern border.
00:45:26.000He says a sense that what's happening is fundamentally different than what's gone on before.
00:45:31.000But again, it's not just whites and blacks as you pointed out, Paul.
00:45:35.000This is something that affects everybody who is here legally.
00:45:38.000There's a article that's up on Infowars.com today.
00:45:41.000Obama's amnesty will add as many foreign workers as new jobs since 2009.
00:45:46.000Obama's unilateral amnesty will quickly add as many foreign workers to the nation's legal labor force as a total number created since 2009.
00:45:55.000It will also create a new inflow of foreign college graduates for prestigious salaries and jobs, according to press reports.
00:46:01.000And they point out that he has already provided or promised almost a million extra work permits to foreigners while this economy has added only six million jobs since 2009.
00:47:48.000Chamber of Commerce, the Walmarts, the big corporations, they very badly want the cheapest labor they can find.
00:47:55.000They want to flood the market with labor because that's going to drive down the price of labor.
00:47:59.000You know, Bernie Sanders, who is a he calls himself an independent, he calls himself a socialist.
00:48:04.000He always caucuses with the Democrats.
00:48:06.000He's saying that he's thinking about running for the White House.
00:48:09.000So, of course, he wants to distance himself from this very, very unpopular policy with Democrats, as we just saw in the last election.
00:48:16.000He says that the Democrat Party, that working white, working class white voters have abandoned Democrats in large numbers.
00:48:25.000He said the party has not made it clear that they're prepared to stand with the working class people of this country and take on the big money interests.
00:50:04.000We are unfortunately witnessing a constitutional crisis.
00:50:07.000What President Obama is doing is he is defying the law, he's defying the Constitution.
00:50:12.000You know, the President quite rightly said just a few weeks ago, his policies were on the ballot all over the country.
00:50:18.000This last election was a referendum on amnesty.
00:50:22.000And the American people overwhelmingly rose up and said, no, we don't want lawless amnesty.
00:50:28.000And I'm sorry to say President Obama's reaction is defiant and it is angry with the American people.
00:50:36.000And if the President goes forward with this, if he goes forward unilaterally defying the Congress elected by the people, defying the American voters, Then it's incumbent on Republicans in Congress to use every single constitutional tool we have to defend the rule of law, to reign in a president so that the president does not become an unaccountable monarch, imposing his own policies in defiance of the American people.
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00:54:23.000I'm David Knight in Austin and we're joined with Paul Joseph Watson in the UK.
00:54:27.000Now, just as we were going out, we were talking about, we played a clip of Ted Cruz essentially saying that what Obama is doing with this unilateral amnesty is essentially in defiance of the American people and what they just said at the polls.
00:54:45.000But earlier we played a clip from Press Secretary Josh Earnest, and he said, you know, a lot of people have called Obama an emperor, but he's just trying to do progress for the American people.
00:54:58.000No, when you're giving blanket amnesty and opening the borders to everyone to come into this country, to foreigners to come into this country, to swamp this country with a massive amount of people, that is not for the American people.
00:55:13.000He's ignoring what the American people said.
00:55:15.000He's doing it for people who are not citizens of this country.
00:55:19.000Trying to change the demographics of this country into something that will favor him.
00:55:24.000But that hasn't worked so far, and there are politicians like Bernie Sanders, even, the socialist, who looks to be running for Democrat in the next election.
00:55:33.000It looks like he's going to announce for that.
00:55:35.000And he was saying that the working class people, blue-collar people, realize that the Democrats have betrayed them on this issue, and they're the ones who are going to suffer the most.
00:55:50.000As we were saying before the break, this is going to harm legal immigrants that have already got into the country off their own back, off their own hard work.
00:55:58.000They've gone through the administrative procedure.
00:56:01.000And now those who are trying to immigrate legally are going to be pushed right to the back of the line because of this new move by Obama to legalize these four to five million Illegal immigrants.
00:56:13.000So the people who have gone through that sweat and toil to legally immigrate to the country, they're going to be punished just as much as the ones legally waiting to immigrate are going to be punished, as are the American people, the native population.
00:56:29.000Yeah, I think it really does underscore the fact that this is something that is not being done for the American people.
00:56:35.000And of course, if he really cared what the American people wanted, he would listen to their elected representatives or look at the recent election.
00:56:43.000But of course, Obama is now a lame duck president.
00:56:46.000He's not going to be running for anything anymore.
00:56:48.000So this is where the teeth are really going to come out.
00:56:50.000This is where we're first going to see this executive order.
00:56:54.000Then we're going to see executive orders that are going to have tremendous impact on our lifestyle, on our standard of living, when he shuts down our energy in the name of climate change.
00:57:04.000But I think it underscores to me the fact that this is something that is being done against the American people and in favor of people who are foreigners.
00:57:12.000The fact that he's putting this on this announcement that's going to be made tonight, where he's going to lay out his plans, of course, it's going to only be carried by the Latin-speaking channels, the English-speaking channels, the major networks, none of them are going to cover it tonight, Paul.
00:57:28.000Longer term, what this is going to do is the Democrats are basically going to whip up this fervour, this fight between themselves and the Republicans.
00:57:36.000They're going to shut down the government again in all likelihood.
00:57:39.000That will then be blamed on the intransigent Republicans.
00:57:43.000Hillary Clinton will then blame all these problems on the Republicans because of course they've got control of the House and Senate now.
00:57:51.000That will give her at least some credence, some platform to build on.
00:57:55.000Going into 2016, because at the moment she's got absolutely nothing.
00:57:59.000There are articles just recently about how she's backed by big business and Wall Street.
00:58:05.000You know, if you think Obama was bad, wait until you see Hillary Clinton.
00:58:08.000But she's going to use this as a platform to spring her 2016 campaign into action by blaming the government shutdown, which is likely to emerge out of this fight, on the Republicans on this immigration issue.
01:00:43.000We've been talking about Emperor Obama.
01:00:46.000Of course, Alex Jones has been calling him Emperor Obama for a long time.
01:00:50.000It's not a joke anymore, as Alex would say.
01:00:52.000It is now literally Emperor Obama because, you know, we use these things metaphorically, but unfortunately, these things are truly coming true.
01:01:02.000We have someone who doesn't care about the election that was just a couple of weeks ago.
01:01:06.000He doesn't care that his own party took a massive beating at the polls because he's betraying the blue-collar working class that is his base.
01:01:21.000He's betraying them by bringing in a massive amount of people with jobs equivalent to the number of jobs that have been created since 2009.
01:01:31.000Essentially a massive amount of competition for those who are at the lower end of the income scale.
01:01:37.000So they've abandoned the party en masse.
01:01:40.000He can't get his legislative agenda through with elected representatives of the people.
01:01:44.000He doesn't care that the people have spoken.
01:01:55.000Next up, of course, is going to be, quote-unquote, climate change, where he's going to shut down our energy as well.
01:02:02.000See, China gets our jobs and they get our energy, but we have to shut it down in the United States.
01:02:09.000That's essentially the agreement that Obama made with China.
01:02:12.000Now, Paul, I want to talk a little bit about, essentially, the way that they're rolling this out, the way that they're kind of managing this.
01:02:19.000It's interesting, I think, that ABC, NBC and CBS are not going to cover this.
01:02:24.000There is going to be a lot of coverage on the Latin channels, Univision and Telemundo.
01:02:29.000As a matter of fact, they're going to do it leading right up to the Latin Grammys, assuring them that they're going to have a huge audience for the people that he's pandering to.
01:02:40.000Yeah, and also reports coming out now that all these pro-illegal immigrant groups are going to be literally having street parties while this announcement is made.
01:02:49.000I think he's going to speak at 8pm, it's going to be a 10 minute announcement, and then he's going to roll out the details, he's going to announce the exact details of the executive amnesty program tomorrow.
01:03:03.000Senator Tom Coburn has said that it could cause Americans to go nuts, in his own words, violence and anarchy.
01:03:10.000I wrote an article pointing out the timing of this with the Ferguson verdict.
01:03:14.000This weekend we could see violence looting as a result of the expected acquittal of Officer Darren Wilson.
01:03:21.000So the timing of it, the fact that it's being geared towards these pro-illegal immigrant groups, which could then be out on the streets, that could cause a confrontation with people who are angry at this, as Coburn and others have warned.
01:04:18.000To not work with Congress, now that he's got a new Congress, to go completely around it, and to do things that... A lot of legal debate on both sides of whether or not he has the power to do that.
01:04:32.000But what our country needs now is to be pulled together, not divided further.
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01:08:41.000Anthony Gucciardi is joining me in the studio, and of course we have Paul Joseph Watson on the phone in UK.
01:08:47.000Now, Anthony, we just had this report came out yesterday about India isolating a man with Ebola-infected semen.
01:08:56.000Now this is something we've talked about in the past that just because someone has recovered from Ebola, it still persists in their bodily fluids for many weeks after that.
01:09:07.000And they actually took action in India.
01:09:09.000They had a 26-year-old man who He was a native of India, but he had gone from India to Liberia November 10th, and he, two months after he was hospitalized in West Africa, he showed symptoms of the illness, they say.
01:09:23.000Now he's recovered from this, but they, as precautionary method, they tested his bodily fluids and confirmed traces of the virus in his semen.
01:09:31.000So he's now being quarantined because of that.
01:09:34.000That is something that essentially kind of brings up the whole idea of Kind of a typhoid Mary, in a sense.
01:09:42.000You know, we've always talked about people who are asymptomatic with Ebola, but they could still be carriers.
01:09:48.000But then there are also people who have recovered from the disease, who still have traces of the disease in them.
01:09:55.000And of course, we hear from the CDC that, of course, just because somebody has Ebola in their bodily fluids, doesn't mean that they can transmit it.
01:10:04.000Just move along, there's nothing to see here.
01:10:06.000Well, you know, hats off to India, because they actually did something about it.
01:10:09.000What we've always been saying, what the mainstream media is missing every single time, and the medical doctors I've spoken to keep saying over and over, is like you said, just because someone quote-unquote recovered from Ebola, they can still transmit the disease for 60-90 days.
01:10:23.000And then you also have people that were in quarantine for 21 days who were suspected of having Ebola, but then the CDC admits that it could take 56 or more days For some people with elevated immune systems and things like that to actually show signs of Ebola.
01:10:38.000So we're releasing people onto the streets who can transmit Ebola or potentially can transmit Ebola.
01:10:44.000And in the case of those doctors that were cured, they can actually still transmit them.
01:10:47.000In fact, there was a piece about how they were told to not have sexual intercourse with their wives or their husbands.
01:10:54.000We're trusting people to go out and not have intercourse with their wife after not seeing them for months and being treated, and saying, you know, we'll just trust them.
01:11:03.000India is at least saying, hey, we need to do something about this, because worst case scenario, it does happen, and then an actual outbreak happens.
01:11:10.000I think it underscores the whole idea of risk that people don't really want to understand.
01:11:15.000They look at things and say, well, if the FDA approved this drug, it's going to be perfectly safe.
01:11:19.000And yet, there's this long list of possible side effects that you hear them announce on the commercials, or if you bother to read the enclosed statement on the drug that you're buying.
01:11:28.000You know, you're talking about the quarantine methods, you know, when they say if they isolate somebody for 21 days according to their data, there's a 95% certainty that they won't pass it along.
01:11:38.000But they're still 5%, so they're willing to accept that 5% risk.
01:11:42.000If they double it to 42 days, they say, then it goes up to 98% certainty.
01:11:47.000But they're still willing to accept that 2%.
01:11:50.000And that's the thing that concerns us with as many people now as have come down with this Ebola outbreak, because this is fundamentally different.
01:11:57.000This is far more than all the previous 30-some-odd outbreaks of Ebola combined.
01:12:02.000This is more than four times as many if you combine all of those, it's about 2,500 people.
01:12:07.000And they had 10,000 people about a month ago that had already been affected with it.
01:12:11.000And it's still growing in Sierra Leone.
01:12:13.000And they say that in Liberia it's leveled out.
01:12:16.000But earlier we'd heard from the World Health Organization not to believe the numbers that were coming out of Liberia because the government was cooking it there.
01:12:22.000But now we're told to believe those numbers.
01:12:24.000And this is bigger than Ebola, and I'm going to break that down in one minute.
01:12:27.000But I also want to talk about what I'm going to be talking about here in this segment and the next, which is a report that's just up, breaking now, exclusive on InfoWars.com.
01:12:37.000Potential Ebola cases still covered up by CDC.
01:12:40.000And we're talking about not just Dr. Lorenzi, who came on air, a medical doctor, proven, works at one of the top hospitals in Kansas City area.
01:12:47.000Who's saying that they're disappearing Ebola patients and saying it's malaria.
01:12:50.000But we're talking about my main contact and his medical professional friends.
01:12:54.000I went to Dallas, spoke with them again.
01:12:56.000They are concerned about something very, very serious.
01:13:00.000They're concerned about the cover-up of these cases, but they're concerned about something even more concerning.
01:13:04.000It's up on InfoWars, but we're going to talk about it in a minute.
01:13:09.000This whole Ebola nightmare scenario focuses not just on the disease, which is a small part of it but overall a big concern, but on the delusion of government assistance.
01:13:19.000So what this means is like you're talking about, sure there's a 5% chance that there's an outbreak and we could all potentially be exposed to serious Ebola pandemic.
01:13:30.000Not because we're smart and informed and statistically sitting down and Americans on their home couch are doing the numbers and crunching everything and saying, well it's a risk I'm willing to take versus this and this and this.
01:13:57.000And even the most conservative estimates say still, throughout this year, multiple cases in every major city of Ebola in the Ebola toilet of America that were shipping in Ebola patients from Africa.
01:14:08.000So even the most conservative estimates.
01:14:12.000And you know what's a real challenge to me?
01:14:14.000is still talking about this when the mainstream media is like case closed everything's fine because the people that buy into that still think that everything is fine and there's there's no actual infectious disease to be worried about and then on another level we're just now sitting there saying well the government controlled Ebola so everything's fine we shouldn't boost our immune systems for the next thing for the bird flu or whatever is going to come next And they're ordering hazmat suits in the hundreds of thousands for reasons that are quite obvious to me.
01:14:42.000Well, Anthony, it was just this last couple of days that Obama signed another executive order.
01:14:49.000We're talking about his executive orders on amnesty and climate change.
01:14:52.000He signed an executive order Granting amnesty to government contractors, private businesses, corporations who bring back Ebola to the United States.
01:15:02.000So if they go over there and do whatever they're doing for the American government and they have employees who get sick and they bring the Ebola virus back...
01:15:11.000You and I would not be able to sue them for negligence, okay?
01:15:15.000If he believes that that's necessary, if he's going to sign an executive order to grant them amnesty or immunity, right?
01:15:22.000But we don't get immunity from the disease because of that.
01:15:25.000He's just giving them legal immunity, but he still sees that as something that's a danger, just like when he was at the CDC.
01:15:32.000Telling everybody there wasn't any chance that it was going to come to America, and that was the middle of September.
01:15:38.000We released, I think it was Paul that released the story about 160,000 hazmat suits.
01:16:04.000And this is from doctors speaking to me, some public, some private.
01:16:07.000The biggest one privately told me, and this is the biggest piece right now, That the whole issue is, when Ebola happens again and starts breaking out in cities, in major cities, as the most conservative scientists say it will, they're not going to blame the government themselves.
01:16:26.000They're going to blame the independent hospitals and doctors responsible for it.
01:16:31.000They're going to blame the hospitals for them disappearing these quote-unquote malaria patients, which actually may be potential Ebola patients.
01:16:40.000The doctors that I spoke to, and again, it was me and you on air last month when I said at the beginning of this, I only released some of it in an attempt to have people call in and see if they can confirm the story.
01:16:50.000I talked about doctors Revealing to me, in Dallas, that there were cases that were being disappeared from the hospital records by the CDC.
01:16:58.000Dr. James Lorenzi, who is proud enough and brave enough and amazing enough to come and be public about it, revealed to us the same thing was happening up in Kansas City.
01:17:06.000Potential Ebola patients being quote-unquote disappeared and their records being destroyed as John Doe.
01:17:12.000Now, beyond that, I'm releasing some further information.
01:17:15.000I'd like to hear some callers on it, see if they can confirm this.
01:17:21.000Because they think that when further Ebola cases happen, and when the families realize that these Ebola patients, or potential Ebola patients, we should say that, they kept asking me to say potential for liability reasons, that these potential Ebola patients being disappeared, the families, the citizens, the investigative journalists, the elements of the government that are good, are going to want answers.
01:17:41.000And they're deathly afraid that they're going to come after them for it.
01:17:44.000They're going to come after these hospitals.
01:17:46.000These are people that own hospitals and emergency care centers.
01:17:50.000They're afraid of what's going to happen in the aftermath.
01:17:53.000They're going to be blamed for the CDC coming in and disappearing the patients.
01:17:57.000Well, you know, the doctor who called us and went on record, one of the things he was saying was that they didn't have adequate protective clothing to start with.
01:18:08.000But what they did have was being confiscated.
01:18:11.000And over this weekend, the Washington Post ran this article about this doctor who was brought back.
01:18:18.000They tried to treat him with convalescent serum as well as with ZMapp, the genetically modified drug that they've created.
01:18:26.000None of that worked and he died like the next day.
01:18:29.000And as I'm reading this story, There's an ad that pops up in the middle of it from a nursing association, and it's like two pictures that are alternating with each other.
01:18:38.000One of them says, this is what they give us to protect us from Ebola, and it's like a mask and a glove, okay?
01:18:45.000It shows a full personal protective suit, right?
01:18:49.000And they're asking people to help them to get this information out.
01:18:52.000But of course the Washington Post is completely ignoring it.
01:18:55.000The only way they're going to get that information out in the mainstream press is to place an ad in an article about Ebola.
01:19:01.000Because the Washington Post isn't going to talk about how they don't have adequate protection for the medical personnel, how they're being left out, hung out to dry, and then of course they're going to be the ones who are going to be blamed for it.
01:19:22.000And then the government says, you're fine.
01:19:24.000And then when the Ebola patient comes in, like the LA Times had an article where they interviewed the nurses.
01:19:28.000And the nurses said, yeah, Uh, Thomas Eric Duncan, I believe is his name, he sat in the waiting room for, like, two hours, spreading Ebola everywhere, and we didn't have the necessary equipment to even take him in, so we just took him in like normal, and he told us he was from Africa, you know, he had come from Africa, and we didn't know what to do.
01:19:45.000And then they're gonna come back, and they're gonna say, well, hospital, you handled it incorrectly, you caused the spread, not us.
01:19:50.000Exactly, that's where the liability comes in.
01:19:53.000We're talking to Anthony Gucciardi here in the studio.
01:19:55.000We've got Paul Joseph Watson who's going to be joining us from the UK.
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01:25:00.000We had witnesses saying that she was Bleeding profusely as she fell over dead, but then they came back later and said no, there's no blood and She didn't die of Ebola.
01:25:10.000She died of a heart attack or a stroke or something like that.
01:25:16.000The eyewitnesses, this was a lady in a hair salon that just collapsed and died a couple of days ago.
01:25:21.000The eyewitnesses who spoke to the media said she was bleeding out of her nose and mouth.
01:25:25.000She had returned from Guinea around 18 days earlier.
01:25:28.000The Hazmat crew turns up, says that it's a fever stroke travel illness that they were dealing with, and then within about an hour they said, oh no, it's just a heart attack.
01:25:58.000Headline is US to allow people from nations hit by Ebola to stay temporarily.
01:26:03.000Department of Homeland Security will grant temporary protected status to people from the three West African countries most affected by Ebola who are currently residing in the United States.
01:26:14.000They're going to give them amnesty for 18 months if they've just come from Ebola-stricken countries.
01:26:20.000They can stay in the country for 18 months and then that period will then potentially be extended after the 18 months.
01:26:28.000So we're not just talking about amnesty for illegal aliens.
01:26:31.000Now they're going to give potential Ebola victims amnesty in the United States.
01:26:36.000The DHS has just announced that today.
01:26:40.000It sounds like it's out of the onion, but it's Reuters that's reporting on that today.
01:26:44.000And then they call us conspiracy theorists for saying that these top doctors that run hospitals, some have gone public, are saying that there are cases covered up by the CDC and they're disappearing them.
01:26:54.000Meanwhile, our government is willing to ship in Ebola patients and basically give them temporary citizenship to come over here for 18 months and potentially cause another outbreak.
01:27:05.000But then we're called conspiracy theorists for saying, hey, there are cases of Ebola.
01:27:10.000And also it's important to note, by the way, On that Forbes article, where there was a professor, I think it was from Duke, he said in the article that, we're so thankful to the Associated Press for not reporting on potential and suspected cases of Ebola, unless they've been confirmed by the authorities.
01:27:28.000And the backlash was so much that he had to go and issue, it's actually just happened, he had to go in and say, that actually never happened, I was totally confused, that never happened, the AP never actually agreed to that.
01:27:40.000If you go to that article, he goes on and just says, that actually never happened.
01:27:45.000The conversation I said happened specifically down to the detail in the quote.
01:27:49.000On issue after issue after issue, whether it's the border, whether it's the climate change mandates that are coming along, whether it's this latest amazing order saying that they're going to allow people to have amnesty to come in for 18 months if they're in an Ebola area.
01:28:06.000On every one of these issues and many more, you look at it and you say, What is Obama trying to do?
01:28:10.000Is he trying to deliberately destroy this country?
01:28:15.000He deliberately is trying to destroy this country in every way he can.
01:28:20.000Constitutionally, legally, economically, with health pandemics.
01:28:23.000When you look at the guys that are being sent to Ebola, the soldiers that are being sent over there, as we've talked to the fellow who wrote the treaties, I can't remember his name right now, I'm drawing a blank, but Francis Boyle, thank you.
01:29:07.000Sending soldiers there to bring them back, as well as bringing in, just opening the doors to anybody to immigrate from there.
01:29:13.000You know, David and Paul, we're talking about a government that has injected, since 1945, people that were perfectly healthy with radioactive isotopes, plutonium and uranium.
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01:33:08.000You are listening to an InfoWars.com Frontline Report.
01:33:34.000I'm David Knight in Austin, your host today along with Paul Joseph Watson in the UK.
01:33:38.000We were just talking to Anthony Gucciardi in the studio, his story.
01:33:43.000Doctors say potential Ebola cases are still being covered up by the CDC and it's some new information.
01:33:49.000He talked to some doctor sources in Dallas and elsewhere who are very concerned that they're going to be the ones who are the fall guys.
01:33:58.000They're going to be the ones who are going to be blamed as Obama is bringing in Ebola, essentially a story that Paul Joseph Watson just read to us from, I think it was, was it Reuters, Paul, that you had there?
01:34:12.000Like you said, it sounded like something out of The Onion, but it's just another onion layer of tyranny in the sense that Obama is now going to open the border specifically to people coming in from Ebola-affected countries.
01:34:26.000Well, David, I actually underplayed it.
01:34:28.000They're not going to just give people residency for 18 months and then a potential further period of time.
01:34:33.000They're going to give them work permits.
01:34:36.000So these people could be working in transportation, they could be working in hospitals, they could be giving you your flu shot.
01:34:42.000This is people who are returning from the West African countries, hit by a polar who were already in the United States, granting them amnesty for at least a year and a half and potentially more, giving them work permits.
01:34:56.000So it's even worse than I originally said.
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01:36:15.000Now, Paul, you had this story back on November the 3rd.
01:36:20.000In Florida, we had a 90-year-old man who has been feeding the homeless for quite some time, and they passed a new ordinance, and they arrested him.
01:36:30.000It got quite nasty, but this is something that's been going on and on for quite some time.
01:36:34.000I want to get Mr. Abbott on the line now.
01:36:43.000I wanted to talk to you directly because I wanted people to hear your story.
01:36:47.000I think it's always important for us to understand when we engage in civil disobedience, to understand that there are moral issues that transcend arbitrary regulations with local governments or even national governments.
01:37:02.000I wanted you to kind of give us a background.
01:37:04.000Tell us a little bit about your operation, what you do there.
01:37:56.000And the matter was over for some years, and then October 22nd of this year, they scrapped all of their old laws and came out with brand new ones, which were impossible for most of the people feeding the homeless to in any way comply with, because it required every feeding group to bring a porta-potty with them, if you can imagine that being a possibility.
01:38:34.000That's the part we cover, actually, of the new law and all of the other fundamental items that have to do with sanitation we comply with because we teach culinary arts, of which sanitation is a very big part of.
01:38:50.000Now, you've had regulations in the past.
01:38:52.000You said you took them to court, but this time it was a little bit different, wasn't it?
01:38:56.000Yes it was, because it referred to all the sanitation laws that most people, most of the feeders could absolutely not comply with.
01:39:06.000We could, because we teach sanitation in one of our courses to the homeless students we have.
01:39:12.000So we had no problem, but then they decided that after we won the case for the beach, to feed on the beach, that they'd make that a no feeding zone for social services, and we're social services.
01:39:25.000So again, we took them to court and we beat them.
01:39:56.000And last evening was the first time we had not had the police presence at our meeting.
01:40:01.000Usually there are 10 to 20 police officers.
01:40:05.000And this morning I had a telephone debate with the mayor at 8 o'clock this morning, in which I inquired why there were no police officers there last night.
01:40:15.000And he very happily replied that yes, they were.
01:40:18.000They were in plain clothes and we followed every move you made.
01:40:21.000And you can expect your fourth citation in the mail.
01:40:28.000Let me ask you, Mr. Abbott, you've been a World War II veteran.
01:40:35.000You've lived in this country for a very long time.
01:40:37.000Did you ever think that you would see the day where this kind of thing would happen in the United States, where they would be so callous to people who are at the bottom of society that they would threaten to arrest you and kind of get kind of in your face about it?
01:40:52.000It was originally reported that they grabbed you by the hand and said, drop that plate right now.
01:40:57.000Did you ever think that you would see that kind of day in America?
01:41:01.000Well, unfortunately, I've had to fight civil rights for the last 50 years of my life.
01:41:06.000So I've encountered the KKK and all other organizations who fight giving equal rights to anybody.
01:41:33.000Questioning why in the United States of America, where democracy is supposed to be this vibrant government, they're doing this?
01:41:39.000And that's pretty embarrassing for any American to have to answer.
01:41:43.000Well, I guess my concern about it is too, you know, we look at homeless people and We see the shooting not too long ago in New Mexico that was captured on the police video cam where they had a homeless man.
01:41:57.000They talked to him for quite some time but he was absolutely no threat to him.
01:42:01.000They shot and killed him from a distance and then just at the end of October we had a homeless man shot 49 times by, I believe, eight different officers and he was standing maybe about 30 feet away from him.
01:42:13.000Absolutely no danger to them whatsoever.
01:42:16.000We see this happening and the escalation of the violence that's happening.
01:42:20.000I guess that's the thing that really concerns me.
01:42:23.000We've seen homeless people rounded up and shipped out as they have their political conventions in certain towns because they don't want them to be seen or they have a big G20 meeting or something like that so they ship all the homeless people out to another area because they don't want to be embarrassed by that but they're getting really brutal and heartless towards not only the homeless people but of course to all citizens.
01:42:46.000We see this happening now that's essentially what I think people need to be focusing on in Ferguson but that's turned into a black-white thing rather than what why are we allowing the authorities to do this to the people of America?
01:43:00.000Well, I think it's more than black-white.
01:43:04.000That's the way it is in Fort Lauderdale.
01:43:07.000I have called the city commission, the mayor and the four other commissioners, puppets of the mega-rich and the powerful people who live here.
01:43:15.000Their orders are to get rid of the homeless.
01:43:31.000They have vigilante groups, very much like the Ku Klux Klan.
01:43:36.000People go around at night, 2, 3, 4, and 5 in the morning, take pictures of where the homeless are sleeping, and turn it over to the police so they can be arrested.
01:43:57.000I guess, you know, it's not just the brutal incidents that we see of the man in New Mexico, the one in Michigan, then, of course, Kelly Thomas, who was brutally beaten for an extended period of time, a homeless man who was just beaten to death.
01:44:10.000I mean, we see that, and that's so egregious.
01:44:14.000I guess people say, well, you know, it's the homeless and they're crazy, so, you know, the police need to do whatever the police need to do to that.
01:44:21.000But if we allow them to do that to the homeless people, we should understand that that creates a callousness towards all humanity that is going to eventually find its way back to us.
01:44:33.000And even before they get to the point of shooting them or beating them to death, There's the issue of just not having enough compassion to even allow somebody to give them some food.
01:45:50.000And they're accused of everything that goes wrong, and they are the innocents who are the ones that are picked on.
01:45:58.000I understand people's right of self-defense, but you know as a police officer, former police officer, that you have to establish the fact that somebody was a genuine threat to you.
01:46:09.000And that's one of the things that Frank Serpico has talked about.
01:46:12.000He's talked about Ferguson and other issues.
01:46:14.000He said, we've gotten to the culture now where police, all they have to say is, I felt that I was threatened in some way.
01:46:23.000He said when he was in the force, when Frank Serpico was in the force, he would Fire a couple of shots and then reassess the situation instead of emptying his gun into people.
01:46:32.000That's what we saw happen in Michigan with these eight officers.
01:46:34.000They all just emptied their guns into this one homeless man who wasn't a threat whatsoever to them.
01:46:40.000I don't want to totally monopolize this.
01:46:42.000I know that Paul had originally picked up this article and I imagine we've got Paul Joseph Watson, one of our writers in the UK.
01:46:49.000He's on the line and I imagine he's got a question that he would like to ask you, Mr. Abbott.
01:46:54.000Paul, do you want to ask him something?
01:46:56.000Yeah, I was just wondering with the case going forward, we saw a very visible presence from the police on the beach when you were feeding the homeless previously.
01:47:04.000Last night, as you said, they weren't at least out in force visibly.
01:47:08.000Do you think that's a sign that the city is beginning to back down or is it just being done for public relations purposes?
01:47:15.000No, I think that the police are embarrassed by what they're forced to do by the city fathers.
01:47:21.000They've acted very much like they didn't want to do what they did.
01:47:25.000They didn't want to lead me to a police car and write me up on a citation.
01:47:30.000They actually, I think, are sympathetic to our cause, but they have to do what they're ordered to do.
01:47:37.000And as far as what was just said about the Serpico, I call it fake provocation because as a police commissioner I saw many times cases where evidence was planted on the victims and of course so the police can claim that they were threatened and that happens all the time too.
01:47:59.000You're going to have good costs and bad costs no matter what you do.
01:48:02.000And what you have to do is to improve the courts.
01:48:05.000So they recognize that these people have very little or no representation whatsoever.
01:48:11.000And I once tried to write a book called The American Injustice System, and strangely enough, it had mostly to do with Houston, Texas.
01:48:21.000And the fact that capital cases have in Houston If you're poor and black, stay away from Houston because that county had no time and place for people who were poor.
01:48:33.000And there were so many people who were indicted and tried for murder cases and actually they were exonerated some years later.
01:48:42.000But the unfortunate thing is they'd already been executed.
01:48:46.000So it's just a horrible thing that happens in our court system.
01:48:50.000I think that's where you have to start things being turned around.
01:48:54.000If the courts acted more humanely and with some merciful considerations and also helping to have good people with the proper representation when they go to court, people to do some investigation, then I think that that fellow should be eliminated 100% because where you don't have equal justice and you have no provocation, either moral, ethical, or religious, For the death penalty.
01:49:37.000I kind of take Ron Paul's position on that.
01:49:42.000In principle, opposed to the death penalty for certain things, but I don't believe that people are going to get a fair trial, or that they're going to get equal protection under the law in our court system, and so because of that, I don't support it.
01:49:54.000When I was reading this article where Frank Serpico was talking about it, I thought it was an interesting observation that he made, that he said, back in the day that he was involved, I believe it was in the 70s, he said the real issue was corruption, about police lining their pockets with money, but he says now, It seems like the epidemic is the use of force, the unrestrained use of force.
01:50:15.000And as you mentioned, Mr. Abbott, there are good cops and there are bad cops.
01:50:19.000What needs to be done, in your opinion, as a former police officer, I wasn't aware that you were a former police officer, but as a former police officer, what is, in your opinion, should we do when we have a bad cop who uses unnecessary force and injures someone?
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01:54:36.000Paul Joseph Watson is with us in the UK.
01:54:38.000We were just talking to Arnold Abbott.
01:54:40.000Of course, he's the 90-year-old volunteer in Florida who's been threatened with arrest multiple times.
01:54:47.000The police kind of got in his face a bit in the early days.
01:54:52.000Threatened him because he was feeding the homeless.
01:54:55.000Now, he was also a former police commissioner, so we talked to him about The different ways that the government has been brutalizing homeless people as well, but when we look at this, Paul, I'm reminded, of course it was in Florida as well, that we saw the Terry Shavo incident, you know, where people were arrested at that time for trying to give Terry Shavo a drink of water.
01:55:20.000And of course, some of the people who are working with Arnold Abbott there are some Christian ministers in that area.
01:55:25.000One of them said, we're simply trying to feed people who are hungry.
01:55:29.000To criminalize that is contrary to everything I stand for as a priest and as a person of faith.
01:55:36.000I think it really underscores when we need to stand up in civil disobedience against immoral laws.
01:55:44.000I think it's a real important Point for people who are confused about Romans 13 and think that the government has some kind of absolute authority.
01:56:05.000Now we're seeing it with these people as well.
01:56:08.000I think the Terri Schiavo case was far worse because that was one individual that they were, this was one judge who had a court order that nobody could feed her or give her water and yet we saw the Bush brothers stand by and not countermand that.
01:56:22.000We had Jeb Bush as governor, we had George W. as president at the time.
01:56:27.000I was absolutely appalled when that happened, Paul.
01:56:44.000With the Abbott case, I think there's also another aspect to it, which is They don't care about sanitation issues.
01:56:51.000They want to send this message that anybody who defies these ordinances, no matter how unfair they may be, will be punished.
01:56:58.000They don't want that message of defiance to reverberate and spread to include and influence any other aspect of government.
01:57:05.000Also, the Mayor came out with some interesting comments about two weeks ago.
01:57:09.000He said basically that people should be, the homeless in Fort Lauderdale, should be forced to, quote, have interaction with government.
01:57:17.000So they need these homeless people to be dependent on the government.
01:57:21.000They don't want the fellow citizens helping them out because again that would spread a message of community and getting the homeless, getting people on low income below the poverty line away from being dependent on government and going towards charity and help from their fellow citizens.
01:57:37.000So the government, the city, does not want that message or that precedent to be established in Fort Lauderdale.
01:57:42.000It cuts to the very heart of the welfare state.
01:57:45.000The welfare state is not there about compassion.
01:57:48.000And we can clearly see that the government doesn't care about compassion, the way they treat homeless people, beating them to death, shooting them to death, denying people the ability to give them food without coming after those people.
01:58:01.000And we also see, and I think it's very important for people to understand, to step back and take a look at this and understand that there are higher moral laws that just because the government passes some kind of a regulation, sometimes it's not only your right but your duty.
02:01:35.000We're going to be talking to our reporters in Ferguson, because that's another hot spot that is ready to erupt at any moment.
02:01:42.000Another part of the class war that's being established by the government.
02:01:47.000But, you know, Paul, we were just talking to Arnold Abbott, the 90-year-old man who has been threatened with arrest multiple times for feeding the homeless in Fort Lauderdale.
02:02:01.000This is Jonathan Gruber back in the news back in May 1997.
02:02:06.000The same guy that lied to us about health care in Massachusetts with Romney Care.
02:02:11.000And of course Mitt Romney thanked him so much for his economic models that helped to get that passed.
02:02:16.000And then of course he is now bragging about how he lied and deceived the American public about Obamacare in general.
02:02:25.000But even before that, he was working on, of all things, Paul, he was working on abortion.
02:02:30.000Back in May 1997, he's the top author on a paper called, Abortion Legalization and Child Living Circumstances, who is the quote, marginal child.
02:02:40.000And in this, he makes the argument that children who were born after Roe v. Wade ...have such better standards of living because of abortion.
02:02:50.000Actually, he argues that it's a great thing, Paul.
02:02:55.000Same guy who told us that Obamacare was going to be good, who lied to us about economics.
02:02:58.000He wouldn't lie to us about the effects of abortion, would he?
02:03:03.000Well, again, it's this whole thing about, you know, you're supposed to not brag about it when you get caught doing these programs through trickery, which is what they did with Gruber and Obamacare.
02:03:15.000But the New York Times actually ran defense for Obama and said that he had a limited role in crafting Obamacare, even though he went to the White House on a dozen occasions, he met with Obama, he was giving these speeches months before it passed.
02:03:30.000Bragging about the fact that Americans were stupid and that's how they could get it passed.
02:03:34.000And then literally hours after the New York Times came out and said that his role was limited, a key advisor to Obamacare came out and said that Gruber was, quote, the guru.
02:03:45.000That he was an important figure in getting Obamacare passed.
02:03:55.000If you actually look at the graphs of how many times Gruber has been mentioned over the past couple of weeks, it's basically non-existent on the pro-Obama network.
02:04:04.000So they've managed to some extent to cover it up.
02:04:07.000What was heartening was the fact that on Twitter for around a week Gruber was one of the top trending hashtag terms, even amidst all the mindless rubbish about Kim Kardashian's behind and whatever.
02:04:19.000Gruber maintained its position in those top Twitter trends, which shows that the American people were talking about it, are still talking about it, breaking through that black wall of censorship that was erected by the likes of NBC, ABC and CNN.
02:04:34.000He's one of these masters of propaganda and twisting.
02:04:37.000He talked about how they had to torture the numbers to make them look the way they wanted to.
02:04:40.000One of the things that he's torturing in this is the terminology about children.
02:04:44.000He talks about cohorts as being the children who are actually born.
02:04:48.000You know, you go from a fetus to a cohort.
02:04:51.000The only time he talks about children So he talks about the marginal child, in other words, those who were not born because abortion was legal.
02:05:00.000We're going to talk a little bit more about that and take your calls right after the break.
02:05:04.000Paul Joseph Watson is going to be joining us, as well as your calls, and we're going to have reporters from Ferguson at the bottom of the hour.
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02:08:33.000We have Paul Joseph Watson with us in the UK, and we're going to be taking your calls this next segment.
02:08:38.000We're going to be joined at the bottom of the hour by our reporters, Jakari Jackson and Joe Biggs, who are in Ferguson awaiting the grand jury indictment, or lack thereof, and the subsequent riots that people fear are going to happen there.
02:08:52.000But in the last segment, we were talking about this new revelation.
02:08:56.000Actually, it's an old paper from Jonathan Gruber, the guy who has come out as kind of the poster child for the way the government, and particularly the bureaucracy and these experts that they pull up, the way they lie and manipulate the public.
02:09:10.000Of course, he was instrumental in passing Romneycare.
02:09:14.000Mitt Romney thanked him profusely for his economic models, which have now proven to be a total lie, just as they were for Obamacare.
02:09:23.000And he has surfaced in many, many different venues bragging about how he deceived the American public.
02:10:26.000It's not because we don't want to be bothered with it, because it's an economic hardship, or other issues, or because we just don't understand what's going on.
02:10:32.000No, they're actually, the marginal child is better.
02:10:34.000And he talks about the children who are actually born, he calls them cohorts.
02:10:38.000He says, we find that cohorts, I think that's an interesting term, Cohorts born after abortion was legalized experienced a significant reduction in the number of adverse incomes.
02:10:47.000Our estimates imply that the marginal child who is not born due to legalization would have been 70% more likely to live in a single parent family, 40% more likely to live in poverty, 50% more likely to receive welfare, 35% more likely to die as an infant.
02:11:08.000That's the kind of lies that the master technician behind Romneycare, which is the same thing as Obamacare, that's what Peter Gruber has been cutting his teeth on for a long time.
02:11:37.000The major concern now, obviously, as we've illustrated with all these campus videos where we send out Joe Biggs, for example, other people have done it too, where college students will sign petitions advocating post-birth abortions.
02:11:52.000And this is also something that the establishment media has jumped on board with to some extent.
02:11:57.000MSNBC's Melissa Harris-Perry, who of course said the children belong to the state, she said newborn infants don't count as being considered, quote, alive.
02:12:07.000So this is an entree to legitimizing infanticide.
02:12:11.000We had the academic paper a couple of years ago, I think, out of the University of Melbourne, which argued that afterbirth abortion should be permissible, this is a quote, including in cases where the newborn is not disabled.
02:12:25.000So they're talking about afterbirth abortion, infanticide, like you have in China, where women are grabbed off the street, drugged, Given forced abortions, the baby's dumped in a bucket, and now the academia in the West and the media in the United States is, in a creeping fashion, beginning to advocate infanticide, post-birth abortion.
02:12:48.000So that's how deep down the rabbit hole this has gone now.
02:12:51.000And they portray this as, oh, they're doing it for the sake of the child.
02:12:54.000The child would have been perhaps at a 35 percent higher chance of living in this kind of condition, a single parent home, as if that was something that we saved them from.
02:13:06.000But of course, it's the industry, isn't it, Paul?
02:13:08.000Rob Dew just put this article on my desk.
02:13:11.000Former abortion clinic director says our goal was three to five abortions per student.
02:13:18.000This was in Round Rock, Texas, right here around Austin.
02:13:21.000Abortion clinics are businesses, they point out, just like muffler shops or fast food restaurants.
02:13:26.000And that's the kind of justification, the kind of tortured logic that we see happening.
02:13:32.000And I think it's really kind of a slippery slope, like we were just talking to Arnold Abbott, the 90-year-old who's trying to feed the homeless.
02:13:40.000When you're willing to take food out of the mouths of homeless people or out of somebody who is sick and helpless like Terry Shavo, arresting people who are trying to feed that person, give that person water, when you're willing to do that, when people will stand by and watch homeless people be shot and brutalized on the streets, that is the slippery slope for our entire country because now we're entering into an area where they're going to eventually do that to everybody because it's just training for them, isn't it?
02:14:08.000Well, I mean, on the point you just mentioned, Planned Parenthood got its start by putting the abortion clinics in poor black areas.
02:14:18.000And then their supporters, the feminist icons like Marie Stokes, you know, the woman who wrote love letters to Hitler, she bragged about it too.
02:14:27.000So that's how they make their money, is by aborting predominantly black babies in poor areas, and then they brag about it.
02:14:33.000So it gives you an insight into their motivations.
02:15:38.000Yeah, so we know this is a huge, this is, the numbers that they're giving us of 5 million or whatever, that's huge.
02:15:44.000And when he goes in and does this, he's really kind of setting up an entitlement program.
02:15:50.000Anybody that matches the conditions that he sets out are going to be entitled to the benefits that he's going to lay out tonight by executive order as well.
02:15:59.000So they don't really know what this is going to be.
02:16:02.000And of course, there's nothing In this, it's going to really stop people from coming into the borders.
02:16:08.000The borders are still going to be open, so this is going to continue.
02:16:11.000Was there anything else you wanted to say?
02:16:12.000What was the question you had, Larry, for Ron Paul?
02:16:53.000Of course, they said they paid us back, but they paid us back with essentially zero percent interest loans that the Fed was extending to the large central bankers that we had bailed out.
02:17:02.000So, we said, here's a zero percent loan.
02:17:04.000They said, thank you, and they just passed the fiat currency back over the other table.
02:17:20.000I guess I'm one of the cohorts still alive in Arizona, so I just wanted to mention something about all this illegal activity by not only Obama, but most of the presidents of the last hundred years, and not only the presidents, but the departments and the agencies that are used by the federal government to do things that are otherwise illegal for the federal government to do, and I don't believe you can legally even do that.
02:17:45.000So, what I want to bring up is that there's something in the Constitution called the Enumerated Powers, very specifically worded so that nothing but things on that list can ever be done by the federal government.
02:17:58.000And I believe that hiring an agency or a contractor or somebody else to do your illegal activities doesn't make it legal.
02:18:06.000So where are all the lawyers and the law students and the common law people Not attacking that at the root, which would eliminate 98% of all their activities.
02:18:17.000Well, you know, we've taken the position that the Constitution, that everything was prohibited to the central government unless they had explicit permission.
02:18:26.000That's essentially the 9th and 10th Amendment.
02:18:28.000They've turned that ...on its head now.
02:18:31.000They've inverted the Constitution, and for us, everything is prohibited unless they explicitly permit it, expressly permit it.
02:18:39.000We can see that with alcohol prohibition and the war on drugs.
02:18:42.000It took a constitutional amendment to prohibit alcohol at a time, a hundred years or so ago, when they respected the Constitution.
02:18:48.000We had another constitutional amendment that said, okay, you can now have alcohol.
02:18:52.000But then, they come along a little while after that, And they just arbitrarily start making drugs illegal, whether it's prescription drugs or whether it was recreational drugs.
02:19:04.000If they did, they wouldn't have needed a prohibition amendment for alcohol, but they quite frankly don't care about the Constitution.
02:19:11.000Did you want to comment on that, Paul?
02:19:14.000Yeah, I mean, as far as my understanding goes, they just broadly interpret all these limitations and that's how they get through what they want to get through.
02:19:21.000So, as long as they can rhetorically argue that they're limiting themselves to it somewhat, then, you know, they can deceive people just as people like Jonathan Gruber do with their rhetoric.
02:19:33.000So, it's a con game based on lexicon and rhetoric is normally how they get these things done.
02:19:38.000Yeah, they have some things like the Commerce Clause that they try to argue from, but it is the same kind of tortured logic that we see from Jonathan Gruber over and over again, and that really doesn't pass muster.
02:19:50.000It doesn't pass the amendments that are there.
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02:24:29.000I have Paul Joseph Watson on the line with us from the UK.
02:24:32.000Paul, I just see this article that's just come out.
02:24:35.000Rick Perry and Greg Abbott, the outgoing governor of Texas and the incoming governor of Texas, are both saying that Texas might sue Barack Obama.
02:24:52.000It's like, you know, this is not a soap opera about their personal feelings.
02:24:56.000And, you know, Paul, when I look at Rick Perry and Abbott saying that they're going to sue Obama because this is going to be expensive in terms of securing the border, in terms of the cost of illegal aliens who come here on welfare, it's not about that either.
02:25:13.000I'm kind of tired of seeing these Republican politicians like Boehner say, we're going to sue him.
02:25:21.000They have power in the Congress, and especially governors have power, local politicians have power.
02:25:27.000If they have the backbone to use it, that's the rightful remedy.
02:25:31.000They need to stand up and take direct action instead of saying, well, we're going to take it to the courts.
02:25:36.000Because I think that allows them to essentially kind of wash their hands of the whole issue and say, well, I did what I could, but the politically appointed judges sided with Obama.
02:25:50.000I think one of the methods that I read, I think it was Cruz that said it in his editorial, was that they would introduce bills ...and amendments that would block funding, for example, for the Department of Homeland Security if this executive order was passed.
02:26:03.000So, I mean, that would really be of concern to them because we remember three years ago with the TSA in Texas, I mean, they threatened a federal blockade.
02:26:12.000They threatened to close down air traffic above Texas if those pat-down, grope-down provisions were rolled back for the TSA in Texas...
02:26:39.000Honor before job, border patrol agent says will not enforce Obama's unlawful amnesty.
02:26:45.000And this is a border patrol agent in California who says, quote, unlawful order.
02:26:50.000As a border patrol agent, I will not enforce, implement or support in any way an executive order that attempts to give amnesty to illegal aliens.
02:26:58.000I would rather have honor than my job.
02:27:01.000So the very people on the front lines are now revolting against this.
02:27:05.000We also have sheriffs that say they're going to march on Washington, who are saying that the plan of amnesty that Obama is coming up is actually, quote, the destruction of our democracy.
02:27:15.000That it's a gaping hole for terrorists.
02:27:17.000I seriously doubt that Ted Cruz is going to be able to get the Republican Party to withhold One penny from Homeland Security because I love them so much.
02:28:19.000But when are we, as God-fearing men and women, going to stand up against this kind of crap, to put it in a nice way, when we have a man down in Florida who's doing what's commanded by Christ to do, being thrown in jail, and yet these people are left to Continue to rape and pillage America and murder.
02:28:40.000And again, I would go back, I would go back to the, it's a bipartisan thing, and I would go back to the Terry Chavez thing.
02:28:49.000Anybody who considers voting for Jeb Bush needs to go back and revisit that episode.
02:28:55.000And look at what happened to Terri Schiavo.
02:28:58.000Jeb Bush could have overridden the orders of a probate court judge who was basically starving that poor woman to death, and he didn't lift a finger to do anything to help her.
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02:35:19.000You've heard about the Christmas truce.
02:35:20.000I don't know if everybody knows about that during World War One when the soldiers decided they were gonna put down their arms and not kill each other anymore.
02:35:27.000There's been some good movies made about that.
02:35:29.000the generals and stuff had to replace those soldiers because they wouldn't kill each other anymore.
02:35:34.000That's what we need to see, David, is more people on the inside who are serving this system to stand up and say no.
02:35:39.000It's just like all these pilots who are spraying us with all these chemtrails every day.
02:35:43.000They need to stand up and say, no, I'm not going to do that anymore.
02:35:46.000That's what is most disappointing me, to see the people who continue to serve this evil.
02:35:51.000And, you know, when you talk about that, and the reason I wanted to come back to you was because we just had the 25th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall, and it was soldiers at the border who refused to shoot people who wanted to cross.
02:36:04.000And who were the people that were showing up there?
02:36:07.000There were people who were coming from prayer meetings in churches where they had been meeting for seven years in some cases, turning out by the tens of thousands, finally having enough.
02:36:18.000So yeah, it's going to take a spiritual revival, It's going to take people who are the instruments of the oppressors to say, I'm not going to be their tool anymore and stand up to them.
02:36:27.000Thank you so much for calling Bob in Texas.
02:36:31.000We need to move on to our reporters in Ferguson, Missouri.
02:36:34.000We've got Joe Biggs there on the ground.
02:36:36.000Joe, what have you guys been seeing the last couple of days?
02:36:39.000You filed a report last night about some small riots.
02:36:44.000Joe Biggs, we are actually on South Florissant Avenue right across from the police station and the fire department in Ferguson, Missouri.
02:36:52.000Yes, last night I got a call around 845 saying that there was a standoff between protesters and police officers here right between the police station and the fire department.
02:37:05.000There's a little barricade set up over there and the police were standing behind there.
02:37:09.000By the time we got here, there were maybe 65 officers in You know, low, I would say lower grade riot gear with just the shields and some having to face masks with a gas mask on their side.
02:37:21.000So 65 police officers to about 100 protesters that were here.
02:37:26.000Now, the interesting thing that happened last night, though, everybody was over off of the road on the other side where the grass is and the police officers were behind the barricade.
02:37:36.000Well, they came around from the other side of the barricade and then started pushing the protesters into the road.
02:37:42.000Now they were just told 30 minutes prior to that if they get in the road that would be considered unlawful and that the police would use force.
02:37:49.000The police came out and pushed us all into the road and then began arresting people in the street.
02:37:56.000Hey, it sounds like what happened in the JFK 50th commemoration last year when they told everybody that was there in the crowd with InfoWars gave them access into an area and then sent the goons out to attack them.
02:38:11.000Yeah, they pushed us out and Jakari Jackson and I were walking backwards filming and they're like, get out of here, get out of here.
02:38:16.000And I'm like, where do you want us to go?
02:38:19.000Then as soon as we went to the road, the police ran out and just started snatching people up and then pushing them behind their line to where they would be arrested or whatever, released, you know, soon.
02:38:38.000It's just amazing, and you know, that's one of the things that really concerns me about this.
02:38:41.000We have seen so many cases of police brutality.
02:38:44.000We were talking earlier in the program to Arnold Abbott, the 90-year-old veteran who's been feeding the homeless in Florida, in Fort Lauderdale.
02:38:54.000And we're talking about the many ways that they have come against the homeless, you know, beating Kelly Thomas to death, shooting others in New Mexico and Michigan.
02:39:03.000And yet, in Ferguson, what they've done is they've not made it about the rules of engagement when it is allowed for the police to use lethal force or what level of force they should use.
02:39:14.000Instead, they have successfully taken over this thing and made it all about race, haven't they?
02:39:21.000I mean, you hear a lot of talks, you know, on the social media, a lot of chatter about how blacks are calling to the deaths of whites, how whites are calling, you know, from the KKK for the deaths of blacks and things like that.
02:39:33.000They're trying to create this racial diversion to take away from the point that people originally came out here for.
02:39:39.000And it's getting so much, you know, global attention that it's causing these uprises, you know, With protests all over, and now they're expecting that when the grand jury decision comes out, if the officer isn't charged, that there will be protests, you know, in New York, Chicago, Detroit, L.A.
02:39:57.000You know, I heard an activist saying that what they're planning in L.A.
02:40:01.000is gonna be ten times worse than anything that anybody's ever seen.
02:40:04.000You know, and I can't say that it's just a lot of the bad police around here.
02:40:10.000Last night I heard some very awful things.
02:40:14.000One of the guys walked up to a police officer and said, hey, he's like, I said, he's like, I know that you have a daughter and he said he was in a sodomizer.
02:40:22.000You know, that doesn't help the problem whatsoever.
02:40:25.000You know, when you're out here and it's 65 to 100 and so far it's pretty calm and quiet, you know, and then you go out and you're, you're doing that, you're provoking.
02:40:34.000I mean, what kind of action, what kind of response do you expect to happen from the police officer threatening their daughters?
02:40:40.000Yeah, they use agent provocateurs on both sides of the fence, don't they?
02:40:44.000And of course, what the police did last night was very provocative.
02:40:47.000Tonight on the Nightly News, Darren McBrain is going to be interviewing Larry Pinckney.
02:40:51.000Of course, he was with the former, the original Black Panthers.
02:40:55.000And as he's pointed out many times in interviews with us, When they came against them was when they started uniting the entire community, when they were no longer just focused on black people, but they were uniting everybody in the community.
02:41:06.000That's when they got really dangerous.
02:41:07.000And the interesting thing, and it's going to be on the nightly news tonight, he got his FBI file, and in the FBI file they talked about him being dangerous because he could appeal to both blacks and whites.
02:41:57.000I mean, at the end of the day, it's about police officers, you know, going out and doing this no-knock warrants, going out and killing young Americans of all races, you know, going in and throwing flashbangs and ripping a child's chest open and going to the wrong place.
02:42:14.000You know, anytime we have a war on drugs or a war on terrorism, all we do is make it worse.
02:42:21.000You know, this is like a war on race and they're making it ten times worse.
02:42:26.000And I understand that in the war on drugs, the brunt of that has been borne by the poor people, by the inner city people, by the black people.
02:42:34.000The majority of them go to jail for marijuana when oftentimes you don't see that same kind of incarceration rate with white people.
02:42:42.000So I understand they've borne the brunt of that disproportionately, but this is something that is destroying the legal Uh, framework of the entire country for everyone is putting everyone in danger when we allow the government to assume these kind of authoritarian powers that we have allowed under the war on drugs, that we're allowing under terrorism.
02:43:01.000And now we're seeing these rules of engagement that the federal government is training local police departments to engage in.
02:43:07.000We see that there's no longer a restraint on the use of force.
02:43:12.000Let me, I've got Paul Joseph Watson on the line here and I wanted to see if, Paul do you have any questions for Joe that you wanted to ask him about what's going on in Ferguson?
02:43:20.000Yeah, well basically, obviously we're expecting the grand jury to come to a decision tomorrow.
02:43:25.000That's not going to be announced until Sunday at the earliest if they do come to that decision.
02:43:30.000So I just wanted to ask Joe, you know we've got these reports about militant groups going after Officer Darren Wilson directly.
02:43:36.000We've got lists of targets which include power substations, water treatment facilities.
02:43:41.000Joe, from being on the ground there back in August compared to now, do you expect there to be a similar level of violence in reaction to this expected acquittal, or do you think it's more likely to be more subdued this time?
02:43:55.000Well, from the reaction of the police officers that I saw last night, they were I would say a little bit more well-trained in how they did act and how they did approach people instead of just sporadically running out and attacking the crowd like they did back in August.
02:44:12.000So I think there's going to be a different way that the police handle.
02:44:15.000But, you know, back in Halloween this year, they called him a vandal and the local Fox News actually shut down a power area and it shut down the power to the fire department, the police station here.
02:44:27.000So it seems like that was almost like a training exercise for something bigger to come.
02:44:31.000You know, I don't think it's too far fetched that a militant group could shut down the Emerson Electric Company, which is just right up the road a couple of miles.
02:44:38.000So I expect things To be bad, but I don't know if they'll be as bad as in August.
02:44:46.000And when I say that, I mean that in the amount of people coming out.
02:44:49.000Because if you guys remember back in August, at one point there was like 2-3,000 people out in the streets.
02:44:54.000I don't think it's gonna be like that because it was unorganized.
02:44:57.000This time you have more well-organized protest groups, whatever you want to call them, militants, who have been organizing the past few months, preparing, coming up with game plans on their action if the verdict comes down that Darren Wilson will not be charged.
02:45:11.000So I think you have more coordinated attacks, so to say, that could happen, and that's something that we're going to have to be watchful for in the near future.
02:45:19.000You know, as we look at this, I want you guys to give me your thoughts on the timing of this, because, of course, this is likely to happen tomorrow.
02:45:28.000I know that it's a jury, but it is, in fact, a grand jury.
02:45:31.000Grand juries are known for being rubber stamps of the government of the prosecution.
02:45:35.000So, the timing of this coming out right after Obama makes his pronouncement, do you think that there's some collusion there to try to wash out the story of Obama's amnesty, to wash that out of the headlines?
02:45:48.000Yeah, they're going to use Obama's amnesty plan.
02:45:53.000They're going to use Ferguson as a burka to cover up the amnesty plan that's going to go on here.
02:47:09.000It looked initially like another one of these cases of unjustified use of force, of over-the-top use of force, and they allowed that narrative to sit there for a long time, a long time before they came out and showed any evidence that would have exonerated the police officer there.
02:47:26.000They engaged in character assassination openly talking about that before they showed any evidence that would justify the officer's shooting.
02:47:35.000So it seems to me That if they had that evidence, and they certainly would have had that evidence if it wasn't, in fact, manufactured.
02:47:46.000There's something interesting that happened last night, too, that I almost forgot to say.
02:47:50.000Last night, there were, I think, five live streamers in the area.
02:47:54.000Four local that live here in Ferguson in the area, and then myself.
02:47:58.000As the police advanced on us, there were a lot of people in the Twitterverse on Facebook that had All of the live streams up at once.
02:48:04.000Now the interesting thing that happened last night, right as the police advanced on the road and started throwing people to the ground and arresting them, all of us lost our live feed.
02:48:22.000All of the live streamers, because all the people, I've been getting tweets all day and into last night saying that, hey, we were watching all five of them the same time.
02:48:30.000And all of you went out at the exact same time.
02:48:32.000Right as the police came into the street and started arresting people.
02:48:36.000Clearly a case of them using selective shutdown of an area.
02:48:38.000And we saw that at the Bundy Ranch as well.
02:48:40.000When I was out there with Josh, all through the week we couldn't get any reception whatsoever.
02:48:45.000We had to go get Wi-Fi at the Bundy Ranch to upload our reports to do our interviews.
02:48:50.000We couldn't get anything at the protest site.
02:48:52.000And then magically... I'm glad you brought that up.
02:48:56.000There was a young lady here last night.
02:48:58.000And she was really mad about the fact that she's like, why aren't Americans standing up for our cause just like they did at the Bundy Ranch?
02:49:05.000She said, men and women came from all over the US and went to that ranch armed and stood up against those police officers, against the BLM.
02:49:14.000Why aren't they coming here and supporting us as well?
02:49:33.000I was going to say that, you know, on the day that the government had orchestrated saying that they were going to remove the regulations for the Bundy family, on that day, they turned everything on.
02:49:46.000We could get cell reception everywhere.
02:49:48.000And then they selectively turned it back off.
02:49:51.000I think that it is something, when we were at the Bundy Ranch, people were saying, oh, you're not going to show up and cover it when something happens in the inner city.
02:49:58.000And it's like, well, we've been doing that all along.
02:50:00.000We heard the same thing there at the Bundy Ranch, that people wouldn't show up.
02:50:05.000I don't know if it's the same people that were there at the Bundy Ranch that are showing up in Ferguson, but there are people who are concerned about it who do see that this is a problem that is not simply a racial divide-and-conquer problem.
02:50:19.000But I think a lot of people have bought into that, even people who might otherwise stand up for what has happened there in terms of the rules of engagement.
02:50:27.000Paul, do you want to say anything about that?
02:50:29.000Yeah, well just on the telecommunications thing, the shutdown, we know, I think it was Apple, had a patent where they could shut down people's cameras on their phones during a concert where they didn't want copyrighted footage to be videotaped.
02:50:42.000So we know, at least in an embryonic stage, that technology is circulating out there.
02:50:47.000So it's definitely something to watch on that score if they do try and shut down people when any kind of action kicks off.
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02:54:26.000We have Paul Joseph Watson with us in the UK.
02:54:28.000We're going to be joined in just a moment with Jakari Jackson in Ferguson, Missouri.
02:54:33.000Now, as we were talking to Joe Biggs, who is also in Ferguson, Missouri, he was talking about how everybody at the small encounter, small riot that they had last night, everybody that was live streaming lost their feeds at exactly the same time.
02:54:47.000In other words, they could have easily have shut down a cell phone area there.
02:54:51.000But Paul had mentioned that, of course, Apple has been granted a patent to disable everything on your phone, so that you would not even be able to take footage that you could later upload.
02:55:02.000And, of course, we don't know if they've implemented that yet or not.
02:55:05.000This is a story that was written by his brother, Steve Watson, going back to September 3rd, 2012.
02:55:10.000But, of course, we just learned today from the Washington Post that the next step in cell phone tracking is going to be determining your altitude.
02:55:21.000They're not content to just know where you are on an XY grid.
02:55:49.000Is that what you're going to use it for?
02:55:50.000We know what you're going to use it for.
02:55:53.000They also go into this and say, well, it's got some legitimate uses.
02:55:57.000Malls could use altitude tracking to monitor crowd flows and send coupons to the phones of customers walking past a shoe shop on the top floor.
02:56:06.000Or multi-level casinos could monitor gamblers for security purposes.
02:56:10.000Or companies could keep better tabs on the movements of their employees.
02:56:13.000In other words, We are their inventory.
02:56:54.000Their priority is to protect their surveillance measures and to defend the corporations that essentially run this government with their non-disclosure agreements.
02:57:05.000Let's go to Ja'Kari Jackson in Ferguson.
02:57:09.000Ja'Kari Jackson reporting in Ferguson, Missouri.
02:57:12.000We are in front of the police station where you guys saw the video last night where the police officers pushed people into the streets.
02:57:18.000Now, I will say this time around, Besides them shoving everybody out into the streets, the officers last night were better behaved than what we saw back in August.
02:57:28.000No tear gas, no rubber bullets, nothing like that.
02:57:31.000So we've seen, this is the second protest we're at last night since we've been here.
02:57:36.000It's getting warmer, warmer temperatures, so people are coming out longer.
02:57:39.000I think the first one we went to only lasted about 20 or 30 minutes because it was about 17 degrees at the time.
02:57:44.000Now it's up to about 50, so the protests are lasting a little bit longer.
02:57:48.000The thing that they seem to be doing this time around is blocking off the streets.
02:57:52.000Because when we were originally here back in August, the police had a lot of the streets blocked off and then blamed the protesters for it.
02:57:58.000But now the protesters are coming out and purposely blocking the streets peacefully, but they are blocking the streets.
02:58:03.000And the police come out there and try to remove them the best they can.
02:58:06.000And I wasn't live streaming at the time that Joe lost his signal, but many of the people in the crowd were saying that, yes, in fact, they all simultaneously lost their live stream.
02:58:15.000Luckily, I was filming on our camera, so I had a backup for that contingency.
02:58:20.000But, you know, as we continue to move on and as the verdict gets closer, you know, we're going to be here throughout the weekend to document whatever happens.
02:58:27.000And we'll be here at least until Sunday, possibly longer if necessary, to bring all of our viewers and all the people who are supporting us and watching this situation for us and the best information possible.
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03:01:56.000All of my life, as long as I've been able to understand, I believe that the president could issue an executive order to restore law and order in our country.
03:02:06.000Yeah, he's issued an executive order about just about everything except that, hasn't he?
03:02:27.000So there's no point in even trying to come up with impeachment or to come after them for criminal operations when they target people using the IRS as a political weapon or because of Benghazi.
03:02:40.000They won't do any criminal investigations.
03:02:44.000They won't do anything except use it for their own political advantage.
03:02:48.000We can see that in the fact that they have brought up Keystone Pipeline legislation nine times, knowing they can't get that passed, but they won't do anything to try to rein in Obama.
03:04:10.000I don't think we're going to find anybody running for president.
03:04:12.000I don't think we're going to find any congressmen.
03:04:14.000We do have some honest congressmen, but they're not the ones who are in charge there.
03:04:17.000I think it's going to have to be stopped by our governors at the state area, and it's going to have to be stopped by people who are sheriffs.
03:04:25.000And we need to see the people who have legitimate authority, and they do have legitimate authority, using their authority.
03:04:31.000One of the ways that we can do it is to use our authority and vote as jurors to stand up against unjustified laws and defend each other in juries.
03:04:40.000We're not even doing that, so until we can see somebody stand up and do that, I think it's going to be very difficult to take a bullet box option on that.