Alex Jones Show - November 21, 2014


20141121_Fri_Alex


Episode Stats

Length

3 hours

Words per Minute

163.3247

Word Count

29,442

Sentence Count

2,159

Misogynist Sentences

15

Hate Speech Sentences

48


Summary

On this episode of the Alex Jones Show, host Alex Jones is joined by Paul Craig Roberts and Eric Rush to discuss the verdict in the case of Darren Wilson, the white police officer who shot and killed a black teenager in Ferguson, Missouri on August 9th, 2014.


Transcript

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00:00:14.000 Government cover-ups.
00:00:17.000 You want answers?
00:00:18.000 Well, so does he.
00:00:20.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:24.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:28.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show.
00:00:36.000 I'm David Knight, your host live here in Austin on this Friday, November 21st, 2014.
00:00:43.000 Paul Joseph Watson is going to be co-hosting with me from the UK.
00:00:46.000 We've got some interesting guests today.
00:00:48.000 We've got Paul Craig Roberts, who's going to be talking to us about some international issues and the economy.
00:00:53.000 And we have a guest, Eric Rush, author of the book, Negrophilia, From Slave Block to Pedestal.
00:01:00.000 That's an important thing to look at right now as we're waiting for this verdict in Ferguson.
00:01:04.000 One of the articles that we have on InfoWars right now, rioters to target whites, quote, you will never be safe, not you, not your children.
00:01:13.000 See, that's the issue.
00:01:15.000 The issue is what started out, and we've seen this over and over again, not just in Ferguson, but in so many places.
00:01:21.000 I remember when this first broke as news.
00:01:23.000 It was yet another case of the police shooting somebody when their life was not in danger.
00:01:29.000 I still believe that's the case.
00:01:31.000 Yet, you have this issue of an epidemic of police violence.
00:01:36.000 Many people have spoken out on it.
00:01:37.000 We're going to have a quote from Frank Serpico.
00:01:40.000 I'm sure many of you, pretty much all of you, know him from the movie Serpico, but he spoke out and said that essentially We've moved from the biggest problem being corruption when he was in New York, essentially a corruption that came on by the war on drugs, that kind of prohibition always corrupts the police.
00:01:59.000 But he says we've moved on from that, and now the issue really is this out-of-control, unchecked police violence.
00:02:06.000 But of course, they were able to take what could have been a thoughtful look at the situation, something that both Uh, sides could come together on, uh, white and black could take a look at this and, uh, see that although this is something that is affecting black people more than it is white people, it is affecting everybody now.
00:02:24.000 This is a true epidemic.
00:02:26.000 They just had in the Albuquerque Police Department a memo, a course that's being put out on kill-ology.
00:02:34.000 We see them talking about Puppyside because they're killing so many dogs.
00:02:37.000 They're killing everyone and all they have to do is say, I feel that I was threatened and they're given a pass.
00:02:45.000 We could have a real discussion about how we get control of our government, get control of the police, but instead They turned it into a racial paradigm.
00:02:56.000 Trying to turn it into a race war.
00:02:58.000 And now we see also that they're reinforcing the fear of the police.
00:03:03.000 The police have been told for a long time by Homeland Security, by the federal government, they've been told that they're in a war.
00:03:09.000 That they need to fight back.
00:03:11.000 That they're going to have to shoot first and keep shooting.
00:03:14.000 And all this does is underscore that.
00:03:17.000 This is going to basically further entrench this kind of war mentality when they're threatening the police, saying, we're going to come to your house.
00:03:25.000 We're going to come and get you.
00:03:27.000 That's not the right way to approach this.
00:03:29.000 We need to get control of the police.
00:03:31.000 There needs to be accountability.
00:03:33.000 Frank Serpico had some really good points to make in the Politico article.
00:03:37.000 We'd love to get him on.
00:03:38.000 He's been on with Alex Jones many times.
00:03:40.000 He's difficult to find.
00:03:41.000 But that's the real issue.
00:03:43.000 But instead they're going to make it into a race war.
00:03:46.000 So we have reporters that are there on the scene.
00:03:48.000 Jacari Jackson, Joe Biggs are going to be giving us updates on what is happening.
00:03:53.000 The threats, the build-up and anticipation of today, the grand jury meeting.
00:03:58.000 We believe that they're going to, everyone believes that they're going to come across with their verdict today.
00:04:03.000 And, of course, Darren Wilson, the police officer who did the shooting, is going to possibly resign.
00:04:10.000 I guess that's going to be their olive branch of peace that they're going to make out there.
00:04:15.000 But it's not really, I think, going to address the problem.
00:04:18.000 They let this thing run for a very long time before they brought out any evidence that would justify what he did.
00:04:24.000 I think that was a deliberate effort by the government to move this into a race war.
00:04:32.000 So we're going to be talking to our reporters there in Ferguson, and as I said, we're going to be talking to Eric Rusch on Negrophilia.
00:04:38.000 Now there's a lot of reactions today to Obama's Amnesty speech yesterday.
00:04:44.000 We're going to be talking about the reactions that people had to that and we're going to talk about what that really means.
00:04:48.000 Stay with us.
00:04:49.000 We'll be right back with Paul Joseph Watson from the U.K.
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00:08:04.000 Crashing through the lies and disinformation.
00:08:20.000 It's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:25.000 Welcome back to The Alex Jones Show.
00:08:32.000 I'm David Knight in Austin, joined by Paul Joseph Watson in the UK.
00:08:37.000 Of course, last night was the amnesty speech that Obama gave, giving people permission to stay.
00:08:43.000 Not necessarily making them citizens, but basically giving them the right to stay as long as they wish.
00:08:48.000 And we've seen how this works out in many cases.
00:08:50.000 We've had A measure in Illinois to allow people who aren't citizens to vote.
00:08:57.000 We know that with the deferred action that was done for children, the DACA program, he allowed people up to the age of 31 to stay.
00:09:05.000 And not only that, but to get free education benefits, to go to universities with an in-state tuition, in many cases a full ride.
00:09:15.000 I mean, we're the ones who are paying for this.
00:09:17.000 I look at one of the immigration groups.
00:09:20.000 Casa, they say, was a major immigrant rights group that was based in Maryland and Virginia.
00:09:25.000 They were planning three screening parties last night to watch this announcement.
00:09:30.000 When I looked at that, Casa, you know, it's like mi casa, su casa, you know, my house is your house, except it's the other way around, isn't it?
00:09:38.000 They're essentially saying to the American people, su casa, mi casa.
00:09:42.000 Your house is my house.
00:09:44.000 I'm coming to live with you, and there's nothing you're going to do about it.
00:09:48.000 And that's essentially what Obama has done for them.
00:09:51.000 Paul, they're saying that it's 11 million people that they believe are possibly here illegally at this point, and they're only going to extend Legal status to half of those people.
00:10:04.000 Who's counting these people?
00:10:05.000 They don't have any idea how many people are here.
00:10:07.000 He's created a massive entitlement program as well as incentivizing further illegal immigration.
00:10:14.000 Well, exactly.
00:10:15.000 I mean, they always underplay the numbers that are most embarrassing to them.
00:10:18.000 They underplay the jobs numbers on a routine basis, so who knows how many illegals are here.
00:10:23.000 But as you said, they had the screening parties, the celebrations in the Mexican restaurants, and what they're all saying, the message is, This is only the beginning.
00:10:33.000 The fight begins here.
00:10:35.000 They want the welfare, they want the medical benefits, and they want the voting rights.
00:10:40.000 This is only the start, David.
00:10:42.000 Oh yeah, of course it only begins here.
00:10:44.000 We've been through all this before.
00:10:45.000 We saw this back when Reagan did it in 1986, and that was going to be just allow the people who are already here to stay.
00:10:52.000 They've got ties here, so just grant them the ability to stay.
00:10:56.000 We'll fix the border here, we won't have any more illegal immigration, yet it's continued to rise and unabated, actually accelerating.
00:11:04.000 If you incentivize people coming here, and that's what Obama did with DACA, that's what he's doing with this announcement, you're going to get more of that.
00:11:12.000 You're not going to get less of it.
00:11:14.000 Well, exactly.
00:11:15.000 And then, you know, there's the constitutional perspective, which is key as far as I'm concerned.
00:11:20.000 I think Pat Buchanan nailed it in his article today.
00:11:23.000 He said, future presidents will cite the Obama precedent.
00:11:28.000 We have just taken a monumental step away from republicanism towards Caesarism.
00:11:34.000 This is ruled by diktat, the rejection of which sparks the American Revolution.
00:11:34.000 Yes.
00:11:39.000 But David, I mean, that revolution is not going to be led by the Republican leadership, because we know already they've come out with their lukewarm response against it, as we predicted yesterday.
00:11:51.000 And it's encapsulated in a Washington Post article which talks about how Boehner and McConnell are more concerned over the party's brand than anything else.
00:12:02.000 They're concerned about having a stable period of GOP governance.
00:12:08.000 And this is summed up in a quote by Peter King out of New York Republican.
00:12:13.000 Particularly illustrative of the rhino Republican rhetoric that we're seeing.
00:12:17.000 He said it's the first real challenge for Boehner and McConnell together.
00:12:21.000 They'd like to wipe the slate clean for when they start up next year with this situation behind us.
00:12:26.000 And what he's talking about is eliminating the quote insurgent Tea Party Republicans Shunning them to the side, restricting their influence on the party and dropping any opposition to Obama's executive amnesty.
00:12:42.000 So the leadership of the Republican Party across the board will do absolutely nothing to stop this train wreck and to reverse what Obama has wrought on the country over the past six years.
00:12:53.000 Oh, absolutely.
00:12:54.000 They want this badly.
00:12:56.000 This is for the U.S.
00:12:57.000 This is for the large companies that want to have competition for blue-collar workers, for people at the bottom end of the scale.
00:12:57.000 Chamber of Commerce.
00:13:05.000 Those are the people who have traditionally been core to the Democrat Party.
00:13:09.000 They're the ones that Obama has really betrayed.
00:13:12.000 But the Republicans are betraying the country.
00:13:14.000 The Republicans themselves, the Republican leadership, is betraying the Constitution.
00:13:18.000 Now, we do have some Republicans who are speaking out on it.
00:13:20.000 It remains to be seen what they're going to do.
00:13:22.000 Uh, Louie Gohmert said, the president has said, well, Congress didn't act.
00:13:25.000 I waited six years, so I'm going to go ahead and do that.
00:13:28.000 And he said, that's outrageous.
00:13:29.000 And it is.
00:13:29.000 We have a system of checks and balances.
00:13:32.000 We have a constitutional system.
00:13:34.000 We have rule of law.
00:13:36.000 Look at how many things, for example, Ronald Reagan, who was up against Democrats, majority in both houses of Congress.
00:13:44.000 A lot of things that he wanted to do that they blocked him on.
00:13:47.000 And he didn't say, well, you know, I waited for six months or I waited for six years and you didn't do what I wanted to do.
00:13:52.000 So I'm just going to sign a bill and make it happen on my own without you.
00:13:56.000 I mean, he didn't do that in spite of what they're saying about the amnesty.
00:14:00.000 There was a really good article that really kind of laid that out.
00:14:03.000 There's been a lot of back and forth between the left and right.
00:14:05.000 AP put out a story earlier this week saying that, well, you know, both Reagan and Bush did exactly the same thing that Obama's doing.
00:14:12.000 No, they didn't at all.
00:14:13.000 This is a good analysis, Paul, that I saw on the Powerline blog.
00:14:17.000 Basically, you got into some of the details of it.
00:14:19.000 The Simpson-Mazzoli Act, the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, required Reagan, the president, to adjust the status of certain illegal immigrants to the category of, quote, alien lawfully admitted for temporary residence.
00:14:34.000 It also authorized the Attorney General to allow other illegal immigrants who did not qualify for amnesty to remain in the U.S.
00:14:40.000 if they needed to, quote, assure family unity.
00:14:43.000 So the small number of people that was adjusted by Reagan later on was in compliance with that.
00:14:49.000 And he said they even quoted it in their article, in their order, rather.
00:14:54.000 They said the administration made it clear it was carrying out the direction of Congress.
00:14:57.000 It even cited the section of law from the Simpson-Mazzoli Act that provided this direction.
00:15:03.000 And he has the section of law there.
00:15:05.000 The bottom line is, is that he was not acting against the will of the people.
00:15:11.000 They were essentially implementing the law that was there.
00:15:15.000 I mean, Pelosi came out before Obama's speech and said, basically, along with other establishment Democrats, look, Obama's only doing what Reagan did in 86, but Reagan didn't sign an executive order.
00:15:15.000 Well, precisely.
00:15:28.000 It was an act passed by Congress.
00:15:31.000 Even if you disagreed with it, it was constitutional.
00:15:34.000 What Obama's doing, as Senator Sessions said, is Becoming America's first emperor and going back on his own words from as recently as last year.
00:15:44.000 In fact, Sessions quotes Obama in his article today, quote, I know some people want me to bypass Congress.
00:15:50.000 This is Obama, remember last year?
00:15:52.000 Yeah.
00:15:53.000 And change the laws on my own.
00:15:55.000 That's not how our democracy functions.
00:15:57.000 That's not how our constitution is written.
00:16:00.000 The problem is that I'm the President of the United States.
00:16:02.000 I'm not the Emperor of the United States.
00:16:05.000 My job is to execute laws that are passed.
00:16:08.000 So that was Obama last year responding to pressure from immigration activists and the foundations lobby groups that support them to pass executive action on immigration.
00:16:20.000 He basically said I can't do that because it would violate the Constitution and make me an Emperor.
00:16:25.000 Yes.
00:16:26.000 Now he's done exactly that.
00:16:27.000 So in his own words and with his own actions yesterday and today, Obama is admitting that he is now officially Caesar.
00:16:35.000 He's the Emperor and this is just the beginning as we talked about yesterday.
00:16:39.000 We've got more coming down the pipeline.
00:16:41.000 We've got Global warming executive orders which could completely eviscerate the US economy.
00:16:47.000 Talking about ridiculous reductions in carbon tax first to 2005 levels.
00:16:53.000 Eventually they want an 80% reduction in carbon tax and then a 100% reduction in carbon tax.
00:16:59.000 So I guess You know, human beings aren't going to be able to exhale for very much longer if they get their full agenda through, but this is only the beginning.
00:17:09.000 If this precedent is set, as Buchanan said, it's going to grease the skids for something that could reverberate for the next several administrations and get worse and worse.
00:17:20.000 It fundamentally changes the structure of government.
00:17:24.000 It essentially does make him a dictator.
00:17:25.000 If he says, I gave this agenda to Congress, they didn't act on it, so I'm just going to ignore them and go over their heads.
00:17:31.000 As you were pointing out, he's mentioned this several times, Rand Paul pointed that out in his speech yesterday.
00:17:37.000 He said, the president has said 22 times previously that he does not have the power to legislate on immigration.
00:17:45.000 You know, when you speak this with an executive order, when you dictate it, in other words, a dictator is somebody, the law comes out of their mouth.
00:17:54.000 That's why they call them dictators.
00:17:56.000 That's why he's a dictator.
00:17:58.000 The only thing I disagree with here, he says, I believe immigration reform is needed.
00:18:02.000 We must first secure the border.
00:18:04.000 I don't think that it's going to be possible to secure the border as long as you incentivize illegal immigration in the way that Obama has with DACA, with this newest order, whatever they decide to call it.
00:18:17.000 But there's been many, many cases already where he should have been impeached for criminal action.
00:18:22.000 He and Eric Holder.
00:18:24.000 And to allow them to have a pass for this long and to do nothing about it, we know that the Republicans don't want to do anything about it because, A, their corporate sponsors want this to happen, and B, they want the power when they become president.
00:18:39.000 So they're going to set by and allow this to become even more concentrated into the hands of one man and let the entire elected Congress become this useless vestige of power that's just sitting there.
00:18:52.000 And the fact is, if you go and look at Dennis Kucinich's articles of impeachment against George W. Bush from back in, I think it was 2007, 2008, Obama, and this was a couple of years ago now, Obama has already fulfilled 27 out of the 35 articles of impeachment that were leveled against Bush, and he's probably added a few more to that tally since that was emphasized a couple of years ago.
00:19:19.000 Now you can add this to it, but as he said, it's very, very unlikely to happen because The Republican establishment is in league with the Democratic leadership.
00:19:28.000 They're completely disinterested in standing up to this Obama-Caesar precedent ruled by Dictat, just as the Democrat leadership failed to punish Bush for his Unconstitutional activities in regards to illegal war and torture back in 2006 after the 2006 midterms.
00:19:49.000 So they refuse to roll back the damage that Obama has done because as he said, their only concern is remaining in power.
00:19:57.000 They don't care about fixing the country.
00:19:59.000 Absolutely, we gotta go to break Paul, we'll be right back.
00:20:03.000 Hang on right there, we'll be right back with Paul Joseph Watson from the UK.
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00:24:28.000 On this Friday, November 21st, 2014, the day after Obama has just told 5 million people, they say, that they can stay.
00:24:28.000 I'm David Knight.
00:24:32.000 This is the show.
00:24:33.000 I'm David Knight on this Friday, November 21st, 2014, the day after Obama has just told 5 million people what they say that they can stay.
00:24:42.000 Of course, we don't really know how many people that is.
00:24:45.000 They're not really keeping information on people as they come across our open borders.
00:24:50.000 What he's done is he's created an entitlement program and he's created, he's incentivized one more time in one more way illegal immigration.
00:25:00.000 Now, Paul, we just had yesterday, as this was being done, we see just the opposite happening in Mexico.
00:25:06.000 They announced that they're going to start charging Americans crossing the border $28 if they're going to come in in a new pilot program. - Yeah.
00:25:15.000 We, however, extend free health care, free education, a get-out-of-jail card for free.
00:25:20.000 I mean, it's just the opposite.
00:25:23.000 Has there ever been a country that has done this?
00:25:26.000 Every other country requires, if you immigrate to that country, that you not only have to already have a means of support, already have an income, savings, that sort of thing, to show that you can support yourself and your family.
00:25:38.000 I mean, that's Mexico, it's Belize, it's any country that you want to immigrate to, isn't it?
00:25:43.000 Well, precisely, unless they're following the European Socialist model, which they are.
00:25:48.000 And that's the key point.
00:25:49.000 You have to understand the thinking that drives Obama and the people behind him.
00:25:53.000 And again, it would take hours to explain, but it's best summed up in Dinesh D'Souza's America, Imagine a World Without Her.
00:26:00.000 Basically, it sounds like a cliche, but it boils down to the fact that they hate America.
00:26:06.000 They think it should be completely transformed, as you were making the point yesterday.
00:26:11.000 Because Obama's mentors are people like Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers, the domestic weather underground terrorist, who by the way, they invented the term white privilege.
00:26:20.000 So they were the original race baiters, and they were a big influence on Obama.
00:26:26.000 So it's based on this liberation theology, this idea that The land that is now America was stolen from Mexico during the war, which of course, during that time, all across the world, all territorial wars were fought over.
00:26:43.000 They had battles over them.
00:26:44.000 They were not stolen.
00:26:45.000 They were won or lost in wars.
00:26:48.000 That's not a positive or a negative thing, that's a neutral, that's just the way that the world worked at that time.
00:26:53.000 But this racist, extremist ideology that the land was stolen from Mexicans has been inoculated in that culture which the big foundations, the lobby groups have seized upon.
00:27:05.000 This is the whole ideology that drives Obama, that drives the people behind him, which is why Nancy Pelosi likened it to the Emancipation Proclamation, right?
00:27:16.000 Because they think that the Mexicans in America, the illegals, are basically refugees, are slaves, because they should be in Mexico because the land was stolen from us, from Univision.
00:27:28.000 I think there's a lesson, Paul.
00:27:30.000 Obama paying back a debt.
00:27:31.000 Go ahead.
00:27:32.000 Yeah, I think there's a lesson from the Mexican Revolution for Obama.
00:27:36.000 It wasn't just Texas that revolted against the dictatorial tyrant.
00:27:42.000 It was multiple provinces.
00:27:45.000 Three of them, Texas was just one of them, established governments.
00:27:48.000 He was able to put down the revolution everywhere except in Texas, and it wasn't just Americans, people coming in from, English-speaking people coming in from America.
00:27:58.000 It was people who were Mexican, who were Hispanic, Latino, who were living in the area as well that revolted against that tyranny.
00:28:06.000 That should be the lesson for them, not that it's some kind of Latins versus English people.
00:28:12.000 I think it's interesting, too, to look at this situation that we had a report on yesterday.
00:28:17.000 RT reported this.
00:28:18.000 American-born London mayor, maybe you can talk about this, Boris Johnson, refuses to pay taxes to the U.S.
00:28:25.000 He left when he was five years old and now the IRS is coming after this guy who's been mayor of London since 2008.
00:28:32.000 I think maybe some of the people who are coming to this country might want to second guess whether they want to be U.S.
00:28:39.000 citizens or not.
00:28:40.000 There's a lot of baggage attached to that.
00:28:43.000 I mean, the creators and the business owners are leaving America in droves, the middle class.
00:28:48.000 There's a flight away from America, because they're the very people being punished under this transformative system that Obama is bringing in.
00:28:56.000 And in fact, some of these illegals that are now going to be, you know, semi-legal, They're going to get EITC payments because they're going to be enrolled in the tax system.
00:29:05.000 They're not going to pay a lot of tax, but they're going to get a lot of benefits out of this EITC system.
00:29:10.000 And that's being paid for by American taxpayers.
00:29:13.000 So your dollars are going directly to these illegal immigrants as a result of this Obama program.
00:29:18.000 Well, the biggest area of taxation for most people, whether they realize it or not, are the local taxes that pay for the schools.
00:29:25.000 And of course, everyone, K-12, is going to be getting a free ride if they're living in this area.
00:29:30.000 They're also going to get free medical care, whether or not it's part of Obama, because that's part of the law.
00:29:34.000 If you go to an emergency room, they have to treat you.
00:29:38.000 So, that's going to be something that is on our nickel.
00:29:41.000 As I said before, it's really su casa mi casa.
00:29:44.000 Your house becomes my house, whether you like it or not.
00:29:48.000 But I think it's kind of in reverse with what's going on with the London Mayor.
00:29:51.000 He's not even here, but they're coming after him for taxes.
00:29:53.000 They're essentially getting a free ride.
00:29:54.000 We'll be right back with Paul Joseph Watson.
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00:33:51.000 We're also going to have Eric Rush, who wrote the book, Negrophilia, From Slave Block to Pedestal, because what is coming up in Ferguson is a complete Takeover of what really should have been talked about not just because of that single shooting There's so much anger and unrest there because that is not an isolated incident There's a pattern of behavior an epidemic of police violence throughout this country not just in Ferguson Certainly race plays a part of it.
00:34:21.000 It is a component, but they have made it solely about race And so we're going to talk to him about that talk to him about we'll also be talking with Paul Joseph Watson about why we can't have real genuine police reform.
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00:35:46.000 Well, Paul, today we've got the verdict coming out of Ferguson, most people believe, with the grand jury that's going to deliver their verdict.
00:35:59.000 Everybody expects that Darren Wilson is going to walk.
00:36:02.000 He has made it known that he is willing to resign, I guess, as kind of a peace offering.
00:36:09.000 We're going to be going to Ja'Kari Jackson and Joe Biggs and Ferguson later in the show.
00:36:15.000 But what's your take on this from looking at it from a distance?
00:36:20.000 Well, I put a video out a couple of days ago, the truth about the Michael Brown shooting.
00:36:26.000 And you have to bear in mind, I mean, I would preface this by saying, I've written numerous articles about police brutality directed against black people.
00:36:36.000 Recently, there was the case in New York where the guy was choked to death by a police officer for the crime of selling cigarettes on the street.
00:36:44.000 Yes.
00:36:45.000 I mean, that caused some protest.
00:36:47.000 It was in the news for about a week, then it completely disappeared.
00:36:51.000 It was forgotten about.
00:36:52.000 Even though it was a clear-cut case of police brutality and, in my mind, at least manslaughter.
00:37:00.000 And the evidence is there for everybody to see on tape.
00:37:03.000 With this Michael Brown situation, it's a lot more ambiguous, which is what we find time and time again.
00:37:09.000 The race baiters, the Al Sharptons of the world, they always jump on the ambiguous cases, the Trayvon Martins, the Michael Browns, and immediately decide on the guilt of whoever they want to demonize is involved before any evidence has come in.
00:37:27.000 The problem with this Michael Brown situation, again, there's a police problem in Ferguson.
00:37:32.000 There's a genuine problem with police brutality in Ferguson.
00:37:36.000 There's a massive problem with police brutality across America.
00:37:40.000 Nobody's denying that and nobody's championed fixing that problem as much as we have.
00:37:46.000 But if you look at the actual Evidence in the Michael Brown case, at best it's ambiguous and at worst if you look at the autopsy, the ballistics evidence and what the eyewitnesses said, which we can get on to in a moment, it backs up Officer Wilson's case and that's the problem.
00:38:04.000 The black leaders that have jumped on board the race bait as the Al Sharpton's, you know, the FBI, former FBI informant and his ilk.
00:38:12.000 Have refused to take into account any of this evidence because it doesn't fit the narrative that they're trying to advance, which again is based around race-baiting, which we've explained on many occasions, benefits nobody whatsoever.
00:38:28.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:38:29.000 My only concern about it is that they took a very, very long time to put out any evidence that would clear the officer.
00:38:35.000 That took a very long time.
00:38:37.000 They should have come out with that right away unless they wanted this tension to build.
00:38:42.000 That's my concern about it.
00:38:44.000 You know, whenever something like this happens and they've got a crisis, they always try to use it to the maximum, whether it's for gun control or whether it's to try to stoke a race war.
00:38:53.000 And when I look at the way this thing was handled, that's my big concern about it, is that that was really, I think that was part of the agenda.
00:39:01.000 I think they deliberately let this thing run for a very long time before they gave any evidence that would clear the officer.
00:39:07.000 But I want to get your reaction to this, Paul.
00:39:10.000 It just came out of the Albuquerque Police Department, and of course, Albuquerque is famous for being the place that has the highest number of shootings per capita, many, many times more than, let's say, New York City, for example.
00:39:22.000 So much so that for several years, they've been under the scrutiny of the Department of Justice, supposedly trying to get them to stop, although we know that this kind of mentality is coming out of Washington.
00:39:35.000 Now we see, just as they announced, I think it was just like nine days earlier, They announced an agreement with the Department of Justice that they were going to change their approach, their mentality towards the public.
00:39:47.000 And of course, not only are their statistics out of control, but I think the one incident that really galvanized this with everybody was the shooting of that homeless man up on the hill.
00:39:57.000 That was what was recorded on their police cameras and everybody saw them shoot this unarmed man at a distance, kill him at a distance where he could not ...effectively harm them in any way, shape, or form.
00:40:10.000 He was unarmed.
00:40:11.000 Nevertheless, this is what just came out.
00:40:13.000 A Killology Instruction Class.
00:40:16.000 Now this is a guy who, this is the actual title of it, it's Bulletproof Mind, Prevailing in Violent Encounters Before and After.
00:40:24.000 This is a class that's going to be taught to the Albuquerque police officers.
00:40:29.000 This guy represents himself as the world's leading combat authority and the founder of Killology.
00:40:35.000 He says, there are people who wake up every morning determined to send your family into a box.
00:40:43.000 Are you aware that you're in a war and you are the warrior?
00:40:47.000 See, that warrior mentality, that encapsulates it in that one sentence.
00:40:51.000 That encapsulates what the federal government with Homeland Security has been telling police for so long.
00:40:58.000 That's why there's this mentality.
00:40:59.000 That's the thing that's underlying this epidemic of police violence.
00:41:03.000 So you can see on the monitor, that's the shooting in the Albuquerque Hills of that homeless man who was camping out.
00:41:09.000 They killed him because he was camping out and wouldn't follow their orders evidently and perhaps there's some mental issues there but he certainly was not a threat to them.
00:41:18.000 If you or I have a gun and we have it for our self-defense and we shoot somebody who is not an immediate threat to us, that is called murder.
00:41:28.000 And it should be called murder.
00:41:29.000 And it should be called murder even if you're wearing a blue uniform.
00:41:33.000 It should be called murder.
00:41:34.000 Now, of course, the Department of Justice says we need to shift away from this mentality of viewing all citizens as enemy combatants of some sort.
00:41:42.000 And yet they're the ones, the very ones, who are pushing this sort of thing.
00:41:45.000 And that's what is being stoked on the other side of this as the demonstrators are threatening the police in the streets, saying, we're going to come to your house, we're going to shoot your kids.
00:41:55.000 I see this whole thing moving into a race war, moving into a violent conflict, and stoking this whole mentality that's being sold by the central government that this is a war zone.
00:42:07.000 Paul, you want to comment on that?
00:42:09.000 Yeah, and it goes back to the point I just made.
00:42:12.000 The media and the establishment, the black leadership groups that completely sell out black people every chance they get, they only jump on the ambiguous cases when you've got The homeless guy being shot and the officer beforehand that came out on tape saying I'm gonna shoot him in the penis deliberately went out to kill him.
00:42:29.000 Of course we have the Kelly Thomas brutal beating which ended in his death.
00:42:34.000 The war against homeless people, that gets basically zero attention.
00:42:38.000 There were people back in May storming the council meetings in Albuquerque trying to arrest the chief of police over this police brutality.
00:42:47.000 They've had 40 shootings since 2010, 25 of which were fatalities.
00:42:54.000 They stormed the council meetings on numerous occasions.
00:42:57.000 And again, it was only in local media.
00:42:59.000 That was a huge story with the killing of the homeless man and the repercussions afterwards.
00:43:04.000 But it never went outside local Albuquerque media.
00:43:08.000 There may be sporadic mentions, but nothing like Yes.
00:43:11.000 Ferguson, nothing like Trayvon Martin.
00:43:13.000 And even in cases, as I said, where black people are targeted and killed by police, if it can't be made into a race-baiting issue, if it can't be hijacked by the likes of Al Sharpton and Obama, if it's ambiguous, which it is in the Brown and Trayvon Martin cases, they're not interested in it.
00:43:30.000 Yes, that's exactly right.
00:43:31.000 They seize exactly...
00:43:33.000 When you said that, they seize on the ambiguous cases, they elevate those, they try to highlight the ambiguity, they try to highlight what might exonerate somebody early on.
00:43:43.000 They are deliberately stoking this thing, but we really do need to have a discussion, and of course we're not getting that discussion, on what do we do about the police.
00:43:51.000 There's another article here, this is Buffalo, New York.
00:43:55.000 They're talking about one police department, a small police department in Buffalo has shot 92 dogs in three years.
00:44:01.000 One of the officers has killed about a third of those, 25 of them by himself.
00:44:07.000 One officer has killed these dogs.
00:44:10.000 Why is this important?
00:44:11.000 It's not that dogs are more important than human lives, because we know that people are getting shot down on the streets all the time as well.
00:44:18.000 But this tells you about the mentality.
00:44:21.000 It also tells you about what's driving this, of course, because in many of these cases, it's a situation where they have a SWAT team with a no-knock raid.
00:44:30.000 And of course, Dogs are going to bark when somebody comes to your door.
00:44:34.000 In most cases, it startles them.
00:44:36.000 What do you think they're going to do when somebody blows the door open?
00:44:39.000 But they don't even wait for that.
00:44:40.000 We've had videos that have surfaced in recent weeks of a small dog that was running away and being shot by the police as it was running away.
00:44:49.000 We've got another video of the police calling a dog over to them and shooting it.
00:44:53.000 They put these videos up, and Paul, when I look at this, it reminds me that one of the characteristics of serial killers is that they are cruel to animals at a very young age.
00:45:04.000 It's a lack of empathy, and that's the dangerous thing.
00:45:08.000 When they can look at a dog that is no threat to them, brag about the fact that they're killing these animals, that shows that they don't have any empathy for any living things, and of course we see them doing this over and over again to the general public, as we've been talking about so many years here at InfoWars, and yet There is nothing that's being done about that because they always move it into some kind of a, like you said, they choose the ambiguous situation and move it into a race war.
00:45:33.000 Yes.
00:45:34.000 It's the fact they're being trained to immediately escalate situations and immediately resort to violent force without adequately surveying the severity of the situation.
00:45:45.000 That seems to happen in every single case.
00:45:48.000 And that must come from their training.
00:45:50.000 There are good cops out there that need to speak out against this.
00:45:53.000 But with the Ferguson situation, I mean, I've made the point that these violent protests by the agitators that have hijacked the initial protests They only serve to delegitimize opposition to police brutality, which is a genuine problem.
00:46:10.000 So now you've got the entirety of the conservative media basically in America pouring scorn on all of these Ferguson activists and demonstrators Yeah, the problem of police brutality is very real, but in that circumstance, it's being delegitimized when these people loot and become violent, because the conservative media analyzes the evidence in the Brown case, which clearly shows that, I mean, look at the autopsy results.
00:46:38.000 He did struggle with the officer in the car, and he did try to grab his gun, all the evidence suggests.
00:46:44.000 Six black witnesses said that he charged Wilson afterwards, and that's when he shot him again.
00:46:49.000 The evidence shows that his hands were not up when the final shots were fired, they were down by his side.
00:46:56.000 So again, that whole narrative, hands up, don't shoot, comes completely undone by the actual autopsy evidence.
00:47:03.000 And you've got forensic pathologists like Judy Melinek asserting that There's no evidence that he attempted to surrender when Wilson shot him in the street again.
00:47:03.000 Yes.
00:47:12.000 So when the conservative media looks at that and sees that there's not actually a huge case against Officer Wilson, which is why he will probably be acquitted on the evidence, they then look at it and see
00:47:26.000 They make the judgment that these black people, these people in Ferguson, are just rioting for the sake of it and looting for the sake of it, overlooking a genuine police problem in Ferguson and dismissing and diminishing the legitimacy of the police brutality problem that has swept America over the last 10-15 years, which is documented by the likes of the ACLU, you know, the increasing Use of SWAT teams, raiding houses, throwing flashbangs in babies' cribs.
00:47:56.000 It's a genuine problem.
00:47:57.000 Conservative media sees this evidence and then they use it to dismiss the general issue of police brutality.
00:48:05.000 So, I mean, that's why I say that it delegitimises opposition to police brutality.
00:48:11.000 When you actually base a whole movement and that movement becomes violent on a case like the Michael Brown shooting, which if you actually study the evidence, Officer Wilson will be acquitted for it based on that evidence, not because he's white, but because the evidence suggests that his story, his account is true.
00:48:31.000 You've got the agent provocateurs that are there doing their job.
00:48:31.000 Exactly.
00:48:34.000 You've got the government, which could have released this information that would clear Officer Wilson.
00:48:40.000 But, you know, I think, as you pointed out, this is something that they are really using to essentially stoke the race war, to stoke the tension between the police and the public, to drive home the point that the mentality that they've been trying to sell the police for a very long time, combatants in a war, and that the public is the enemy combatant.
00:49:02.000 We see that in documents from the federal government constantly.
00:49:05.000 We see that in the training that they're giving there to police departments, just as this latest memo surfaces from the Albuquerque Police Department.
00:49:12.000 I think it was interesting, Paul, and I wanted to read a couple of comments here that Frank Serpico had, and of course everybody has seen the movie Serpico with Al Pacino.
00:49:20.000 You know that story very well.
00:49:23.000 But he says he tried to be an honest cop And a force that was full of bribe takers.
00:49:27.000 He thinks that police violence has gotten worse as bribery has gotten less.
00:49:32.000 Now, I don't know about that.
00:49:34.000 Clearly, the bribery is not as visible as people getting shot down in the streets.
00:49:39.000 You didn't see that kind of people could still be on the take.
00:49:43.000 And, of course, we know that both of these things actually are coming from the war on drugs.
00:49:48.000 That's the thing that corrupted the police when Serpico was a cop in New York.
00:49:53.000 It was the war on drugs.
00:49:54.000 But now the aspect of the war on drugs that is coming home to roost are these no-knock SWAT team raids.
00:50:00.000 That kind of violence.
00:50:01.000 That's what's behind so many of these shootings and that's what has been feeding this mentality of a militarized police.
00:50:09.000 He said the problem facing people across the country is that the police departments are useless at investigating themselves.
00:50:17.000 He says this may be the problem in Ferguson, Missouri, which has been a lightning rod for discontent, even though the circumstances under which an African-American youth, Michael Brown, was shot remain unclear.
00:50:26.000 He said most cops today can pull out their weapons and fire without fear that anything will happen to them, even if they shoot someone wrongfully.
00:50:35.000 What do you think that does to their psychology as they patrol the streets?
00:50:39.000 That sense of invulnerability.
00:50:42.000 The famous old saying that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
00:50:46.000 We still don't know how many of these incidents occur each year, even though Congress enacted the Violent Crime Control Act 20 years ago.
00:50:53.000 These reports on the police violence were never issued.
00:50:58.000 That's Frank Serpico.
00:50:59.000 We're going to be right back with Paul Joseph Watson in the UK and we're going to be talking to Paul Craig Roberts in the next hour.
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00:54:20.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
00:54:25.000 I'm David Knight, your host today with Paul Joseph Watson, who's joining us from the UK.
00:54:30.000 We were just talking before the break about how unfortunate it is that the system has once more taken what should have been a discussion about the epidemic of police violence and essentially seizing on a situation that they knew the officer would get exonerated.
00:54:48.000 Turning that into a situation where they can exploit racial tensions, where they can fuel the fires of suspicion between police officers, the attitude that they are in a war zone, that the public is the enemy combatant, all of those are the things that we expect to see come out of Ferguson, that's what we are seeing coming out of Ferguson, rather than any kind of discussion
00:55:11.000 About limiting the rules of engagement, essentially holding the police to the same standards that they hold other people to.
00:55:20.000 As Serpico put it, he came up with six points in his article here that's on Politico, and you really need to take a look at this.
00:55:27.000 This is back on August 23rd.
00:55:29.000 It's a great article from Serpico.
00:55:31.000 He lays out the problems and he has six solutions, he thinks.
00:55:35.000 Now, one of those I thought was interesting was require community involvement from police officers so they know the districts and the individuals they're policing.
00:55:43.000 That will encourage empathy and understanding.
00:55:45.000 I've seen a lot of that.
00:55:47.000 Go down since, you know, when they started with police, they were walking neighborhoods and big cities.
00:55:52.000 That's really where the policing started in big cities.
00:55:55.000 People knew who the police were.
00:55:56.000 The police knew the people.
00:55:58.000 Yet now we see there's no such connection.
00:56:01.000 They're typically in police cars.
00:56:02.000 There's typically harassing people for minor traffic violations.
00:56:06.000 They're doing nothing really to protect the residents.
00:56:08.000 They don't know the residents.
00:56:09.000 There's no connection there within the community.
00:56:12.000 But he also says, of course, enforce the laws against everyone, including police officers.
00:56:16.000 And he says, last but not least, police cannot police themselves.
00:56:21.000 We need to have permanent, independent boards to review incidents of police corruption and brutality.
00:56:27.000 If there was some kind of an independent board, I don't think they would have been able to manipulate this situation in Ferguson to get where it is today, Paul.
00:56:36.000 Well, exactly.
00:56:37.000 There was a cop who came out the other day, I forgot out of what area, he was making the point that 80% of crime, violent crime in many cities, is black-on-black crime.
00:56:48.000 And amidst this race-baiting national debate, that black-on-black violent crime, which is a far bigger problem, gets ignored.
00:56:56.000 And then the other problem, as you mentioned, is there seems to be no retribution against the police that engage in this brutality.
00:57:03.000 The cop who pepper sprayed Occupy demonstrators, you remember that famous footage?
00:57:07.000 Oh yeah.
00:57:08.000 I mean he got, I forgot whether it was, I think it was an insurance payout, because his livelihood was harmed by the publicity of that incident.
00:57:17.000 So he was actually rewarded.
00:57:19.000 I think it was at least $100,000 for pepper spraying two dozen students directly in the face in that horrific famous footage that we all saw.
00:57:28.000 So as he said, when there's no retribution against them, they're just as likely to do it even more so.
00:57:34.000 It doesn't discourage police brutality, it encourages it.
00:57:38.000 Yeah, and you know, I don't see any movement towards trying to get independent boards who are going to oversee what the police are doing.
00:57:45.000 Instead, we're going just the opposite, into more of a police state.
00:57:49.000 We've got this report out of Pennsylvania, where they're going to allow the police who are in the schools.
00:57:55.000 I'm looking at this picture and I see two police officers looking at this little kid being accompanied by her parent, walking her in.
00:58:01.000 And it's like, what is wrong with this picture?
00:58:03.000 It's like, oh that's right, they didn't have police in the schools when I went to school, number one.
00:58:08.000 Number two, listen to what they're going to do.
00:58:10.000 Says, the superintendent says, I can't imagine a scenario that would get to a search down to the undergarments.
00:58:17.000 Yet they still felt it necessary to give that power to the police in the schools.
00:58:21.000 They're going to allow them to strip search the kids, even though they say, well, I can't even understand why we would do that.
00:58:28.000 We're not going to do that to search for drugs.
00:58:30.000 I don't really know.
00:58:31.000 But hey, we should have the power to do whatever we want.
00:58:35.000 That's the mentality that is feeding the police state in America.
00:58:39.000 Stay with us.
00:58:40.000 We're going to be right back with Paul Joseph Watson.
00:58:43.000 And Paul Craig Roberts is going to be joining us right after the Top of the Hour.
00:58:46.000 Stay with us.
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01:00:24.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:00:32.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
01:00:34.000 I'm David Knight in Austin, joined with Paul Joseph Watson in the UK.
01:00:37.000 We've been talking about Obama's amnesty, essentially crossing the Rubicon, announcing himself as emperor because, you know, hey, he didn't get what he wanted out of the Congress, so he just decided to do it himself and bypass Congress.
01:00:52.000 And so now Congress is this useless appendage if they don't do something about it.
01:00:57.000 He's thrown down the gauntlet.
01:00:58.000 Are they going to pick it up and do anything about it?
01:01:00.000 We're hearing some tough talk.
01:01:02.000 Rand Paul says he's not going to sit idly by and let the president bypass Congress and the Constitution.
01:01:08.000 We hear U.S.
01:01:09.000 Representative Mo Brooks, Republican from Alabama, went further.
01:01:13.000 That there's a federal statute that punishes anyone who aids or bets, encourages or entices foreigners to unlawfully cross into the United States of America.
01:01:23.000 In other words, Obama should face prison.
01:01:25.000 There's a lot of people in the Obama administration that should face prison.
01:01:29.000 Paul, you mentioned that Dennis Kucinich's went through and had 37 points to impeach George W. Bush, and essentially we've met all those with Obama, and of course if you look back at the articles of impeachment for Nixon, they look in many respects identical to what Obama has done, particularly using the IRS against his political enemies.
01:01:56.000 Well, precisely, and the reaction that we predicted Which was that the Republican leadership would do absolutely nothing.
01:02:03.000 Has come to fruition already.
01:02:04.000 It's a top story on Drudge Report.
01:02:07.000 Republicans leave town without a plan to fight Obama.
01:02:10.000 President Obama's announcement may bring a constitutional crisis in the words of Rep.
01:02:15.000 Mike Simpson.
01:02:16.000 But Republicans in Congress haven't the damnedest idea what they'll do about it.
01:02:20.000 So they've already flown off on Thanksgiving recess.
01:02:23.000 With no plan whatsoever.
01:02:25.000 So the Republicans get this major win, right?
01:02:27.000 And so they come back and the only thing that they've done that I'm aware of was they passed the Keystone Pipeline thing for a ninth time, sending it to the Senate.
01:02:37.000 They know it's going to be dead on arrival, but they keep doing that.
01:02:40.000 They've done it nine times, but they can't even be bothered to do anything about Obama's making himself an emperor.
01:02:49.000 And they knew this was coming.
01:02:51.000 They've known it's been coming.
01:02:53.000 I mean, if there's a funding bill for DHS or whatever, you can bet your bottom dollar they'll stick with it until it's passed.
01:03:01.000 You know, McCain and the rest of them.
01:03:02.000 When it comes to this, they've already left.
01:03:05.000 They've gone.
01:03:06.000 And you were mentioning just at the top of the hour there, This federal statute, I actually got an email from somebody who found the original statute which Representative Mo Brooks talked about.
01:03:16.000 It's actually imprisonment up to 10 years for anybody caught encouraging, inducing, aiding or abetting an illegal alien.
01:03:26.000 For commercial advantage or private financial gain in which the maximum term of imprisonment is 10 years for each alien, that's for each illegal alien they aid.
01:03:35.000 He could be in there for about a number of years.
01:03:38.000 For a long prison sentence by the looks of it, if the Republican leadership were bothered.
01:03:43.000 Yeah, he could be in there for about the half-life of a piece of plutonium.
01:03:47.000 You know, talking about Nixon and getting his Nixon on, this is on our website, on InfoWars.
01:03:53.000 It's from PJ Media Bombshell.
01:03:55.000 Email proves that the White House and the Department of Justice targeted reporter Cheryl Atkinson.
01:04:01.000 I mean, you talk about having their enemies list, talking about acting exactly like Nixon, using the IRS against their enemies, going after their opponents in the press.
01:04:09.000 One of the documents provides smoking gun proof that the Obama White House and Eric Holder's Justice Department colluded to get CBS News to block reporter Cheryl Atkinson.
01:04:20.000 She was one of the few reporters who went after Fast and Furious.
01:04:24.000 This is an email dated October 4, 2011.
01:04:27.000 Attorney General Holder's top press aide, Tracy Schmoller, called Atkinson, quote, out of control.
01:04:34.000 Told White House Deputy Press Secretary Eric Schultz that he intended to call CBS News anchor Bob Schieffer to get the network to shut her up.
01:04:42.000 There we go.
01:04:43.000 I mean, this guy, where do you, it's a target-rich environment, yet they won't do anything except pass the Keystone Pipeline for the ninth time.
01:04:51.000 I don't care if you agree with the Keystone Pipeline or not.
01:04:54.000 What are these guys doing?
01:04:56.000 They're obviously serving their corporate masters and they want the power lovers when they get in.
01:05:02.000 We'll be right back with Paul Craig Roberts.
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01:08:14.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
01:08:22.000 I'm David Knight in Austin.
01:08:23.000 I'm joined by Paul Joseph Watson in the UK.
01:08:28.000 I wanted to get Paul's reaction to this, and I want to give you an idea.
01:08:32.000 I just came across this story.
01:08:34.000 This has been out for about a week.
01:08:36.000 It's been kind of percolating.
01:08:37.000 Could a rapper go to prison for cutting a rap album?
01:08:41.000 Now, this is a rapper, Brandon Duncan, also known as Tiny Do.
01:08:46.000 They say he's rapped with hip-hop artist Lil Wayne.
01:08:50.000 But the bottom line is they're charging him with gang conspiracy.
01:08:54.000 Now, listen to the conspiracy theory that the police have come up with.
01:08:59.000 They're saying they're using a little-known statute that's been put in place by voters in 2000, allowing the prosecution of gang members if they benefit from crimes committed by other gang members.
01:09:10.000 But this is what his attorney says.
01:09:12.000 He says, it's shocking.
01:09:14.000 He has no criminal record.
01:09:16.000 Nothing in his lyrics say go out and commit a crime.
01:09:20.000 Nothing in his lyrics reference these shootings, yet they're holding him liable for conspiracy.
01:09:27.000 You understand?
01:09:28.000 I mean, this is guilt by association.
01:09:31.000 This is something that could shut down the First Amendment if they allow this type of thing to stand.
01:09:37.000 And one constitutional lawyer, That they talked to, the local news station there, talked to him.
01:09:43.000 He says, where does it end if that's the definition of criminal liability?
01:09:47.000 Is Martin Scorsese going to be prosecuted if he meets with mafia members for a movie of his next film?
01:09:52.000 The Constitution says it can't be a crime to simply make gangster rap songs and hang out with people who are committing crimes.
01:10:00.000 You have to have more involvement than that.
01:10:02.000 It truly is a guilt by association.
01:10:05.000 And we go back to what Voltaire said, of course, about Free speech, you know, I may hate what you're saying, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
01:10:14.000 If we don't take that attitude, say they pull up these cases, here's somebody that, you know, most people are going to look at this, if you listen to what he's saying, you probably won't like it.
01:10:24.000 Especially if he's talking about the gang members that he's in there.
01:10:27.000 But if we don't defend that kind of free speech in principle, We lose that.
01:10:32.000 Furthermore, we're going to expose ourselves to that kind of liability.
01:10:37.000 Just look at what they have been able to do with the RICO statute.
01:10:40.000 That was going to essentially give them a free hand to come against the mafia by saying they were involved in racketeering, influencing corruption, and so they had to confiscate their assets first before prosecution began so they could get a conviction.
01:10:55.000 In other words, punish people before they're found guilty of something.
01:10:58.000 We're seeing that happening everywhere now, not just with the war on drugs.
01:11:02.000 We've even seen it in prosecutions of people who were involved in theft.
01:11:07.000 They basically confiscated their home, which they were using as leverage to pay for their defense.
01:11:14.000 So they confiscated their home, confiscated the money that they had gotten from refinancing their home to pay for their defense, leaving them literally defenseless.
01:11:23.000 Paul, what do you think about this?
01:11:25.000 If that's set as a precedent, then every rapper under the sun is going to go to jail.
01:11:31.000 They're also applying it politically.
01:11:32.000 You remember a couple of years ago, the case of Brandon Raub.
01:11:36.000 He made some political statements on his Facebook page, was grabbed and basically treated as a violent criminal, interned in a psychiatric ward for a period of days before he was able to get out, basically for some Facebook comments which were deemed to be threats of violence.
01:11:55.000 If you actually read them, it was nothing of the sort within its own context.
01:11:58.000 So, they're using that to go after people politically now.
01:12:01.000 It's still quite rare, but as you said, if they're allowed to set that precedent, it's chilling for free speech.
01:12:07.000 Well, you can see where they're heading with all this stuff, because we've seen over and over again the efforts to try to get control of the Internet.
01:12:15.000 The FCC trying to assert its control of the Internet, and they'll do it if that means Supporting net neutrality or if it means taking down net neutrality.
01:12:24.000 They've been on both sides of this issue.
01:12:26.000 They're back on the side of net neutrality again because that seems to be the side that the public will support.
01:12:32.000 But what they're really trying to do is establish a precedent where the FCC has control of the Internet.
01:12:39.000 And we've already seen with their moves to take the pulse of various newsrooms that they are very interested in controlling content, not just in allocating frequency.
01:12:49.000 There's absolutely no need for the FCC to establish net neutrality.
01:12:55.000 Net neutrality is what we've had for about 15 years, or as long as the Internet's been going.
01:13:00.000 And they don't need to have them come in to establish that.
01:13:03.000 But they're trying to establish their control.
01:13:05.000 And they're going to establish their control with these copyright legislations that they haven't been able to get through.
01:13:11.000 CISPA, SOPA, ACTA, PIPA.
01:13:13.000 They're going to do that with the Trans-Pacific, the Trans-Atlantic Partnership trade agreements.
01:13:18.000 That's a vital part of those agreements that are being negotiated in secret without our elected representatives even being able to see that.
01:13:27.000 They're going to spring that on us.
01:13:28.000 They're going to do that.
01:13:29.000 Again, Obama couldn't get his legislative agenda through with amnesty, so he just declares it as an executive order.
01:13:37.000 What they're going to do with this, since they can't get their agenda through legislatively in America or in Europe, they're just going to bring it in as part of a trade agreement.
01:13:46.000 It's defending freedom of speech.
01:13:48.000 That's what these guys are really after.
01:13:50.000 They're really trying to shut down the Internet, shut down the press, just as we were talking about in the previous segment, Cheryl Atkinson being gagged by CBS We now have the smoking gun proof.
01:14:02.000 The emails have surfaced within the Justice Department sending emails to CBS telling them to shut her up because she was asking questions about Fast and Furious.
01:14:11.000 One of the few people in the mainstream media that was asking questions.
01:14:15.000 Yeah, and it's not just Cheryl Atkinson.
01:14:17.000 We had the CNBC reporter silenced for criticising Obamacare.
01:14:23.000 So we have that case as well.
01:14:24.000 We have, you know, CNN journalists who criticise the TSA, and then they go to the airport and find out that they get special treatment.
01:14:33.000 Then going back to the FCC, I mean, you know, they're sending people into newsrooms to try and dictate news content under the guise of polls and surveys.
01:14:42.000 The FCC is not the friend of free speech and this net neutrality issue.
01:14:47.000 They're not even pushing real net neutrality.
01:14:49.000 They're pushing a reclassification of the internet under the Telecommunications Act.
01:14:55.000 So they want it to look like cable television.
01:14:58.000 This has been the agenda for a while.
01:15:00.000 They want to get that regulation in.
01:15:03.000 Numerous congressmen and senators over the years have pushed for a Chinese-style internet.
01:15:08.000 And that's what they want.
01:15:09.000 They want the government to have the power in times of crisis, as the communist Chinese government says when it's crushing dissent in Tibet, to go down and shut down certain parts of the internet, make it off limits for people in certain areas of the country.
01:15:22.000 That's on record.
01:15:24.000 Lieberman has pushed that for years.
01:15:25.000 That's what they want with this either kill switch or this regulation of the internet.
01:15:29.000 So to trust them and believe them that it's just about net neutrality is completely naive.
01:15:35.000 Yeah, they talk about how they admire the Chinese approach to the Internet.
01:15:39.000 We've had comments from Bush and Clinton how they would love to be a dictator.
01:15:42.000 And finally, we see that Obama just comes out and does it this week.
01:15:45.000 And so, we're going to see them do that Chinese-style Internet as well.
01:15:49.000 Now, joining us now, Paul, we've got Paul Craig Roberts, American economist and columnist for Creators Syndicate.
01:15:55.000 Of course, he was the Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under the Reagan administration.
01:15:59.000 He earned fame as co-founder of Reaganomics.
01:16:02.000 Welcome, Mr. Roberts.
01:16:03.000 Dr. Roberts.
01:16:06.000 I wanted to get your comment, and Paul's got a lot of questions for you.
01:16:08.000 I wanted to get your comment on Jim Webb, who's announced his candidacy opposing Hillary Clinton.
01:16:15.000 He's forming a committee to explore that.
01:16:18.000 I think he could cause Hillary Clinton a lot of discomfort, I think, opposing some of the things that were done as she was Secretary of State.
01:16:26.000 Of course, he was the Secretary of the Navy while you were there at the Reagan administration.
01:16:34.000 He had some interesting comments about Libya.
01:16:36.000 He said there were no treaties at risk, there were no Americans at risk, there were no terrorist attacks coming out of Libya.
01:16:40.000 Why did we attack them?
01:16:41.000 And of course that's a direct jab at Hillary Clinton.
01:16:45.000 What do you think about Jim Webb?
01:16:48.000 Well, I don't think the establishment will put up with him.
01:16:51.000 Yeah, that's right.
01:16:54.000 He certainly would be a far better prospect than Hillary.
01:16:58.000 There's no doubt about that.
01:17:00.000 He's a real person.
01:17:03.000 But because he is a real person, he would not be welcome.
01:17:08.000 By the power structure that selects the president.
01:17:12.000 Yeah.
01:17:14.000 So I don't really know.
01:17:15.000 He may simply find that he gets smeared or framed up or some kind of accusations come forward.
01:17:24.000 That's the usual trick they use to get rid of unwelcome.
01:17:31.000 It could certainly make things interesting for her because, of course, with his experience as Secretary of the Navy and he was a Vietnam War vet and he's pretty much come out against the military-industrial complex at the same time that Hillary is doing everything she can to embrace the military-industrial complex and perpetual war, isn't it?
01:17:49.000 That's right, but the fact that he's against it means they'll work against him.
01:17:53.000 Yes, absolutely.
01:17:54.000 I know Paul had some questions he wanted to ask.
01:17:56.000 Go ahead, Paul.
01:17:57.000 Bring you in on this.
01:17:58.000 Yeah, I was just reading Dr. Roberts' article earlier today, the next presidential election will move the world closer to war, in which you write, Dr. Roberts, Hillary as president would mean war with Russia.
01:18:10.000 Why are we more likely to see this cold war turn hot under Hillary than under Obama or even Bush before him?
01:18:19.000 Well, for several reasons.
01:18:22.000 One, of course, we've already discussed that she's in tight with the military security complex.
01:18:29.000 And, of course, she has also compared Putin to Hitler.
01:18:34.000 She has made a direct comparison of the Russian president to Adolf Hitler, and that's something she can't really back away from.
01:18:44.000 So when you go that far out on the limb, you really kind of have to go the rest of the way.
01:18:51.000 So I think it's almost certain that if you get somebody like Hillary in the office of president, that she will certainly accommodate the neoconservatives who also want war with Russia because they think Russia can be defeated.
01:19:13.000 And the military security complex, they'll support all that.
01:19:20.000 And of course, most of the generals, you know, war is good for promotions.
01:19:27.000 So I don't think there's any candidate That we could end up with this president that would be more likely to go to war with Russia than Hillary.
01:19:39.000 I think that's a real possibility, especially with the Republicans in control of the House and Senate.
01:19:45.000 They would rubber stamp any kind of war that she would want to go into in just about any place.
01:19:50.000 We're going to be right back with Paul Craig Roberts and Paul Joseph Watson.
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01:24:24.000 I'm David Knight in Austin.
01:24:25.000 We have Paul Joseph Watson in the UK, my co-host today.
01:24:28.000 And on the phone we have Paul Craig Roberts.
01:24:31.000 And we only have him to the bottom of the hour.
01:24:33.000 And I know that Paul Joseph Watson had a question for him about MH17.
01:24:37.000 Go ahead, Paul.
01:24:40.000 Yeah, well obviously we've seen this international propaganda campaign to demonise Russia over MH17 despite the fact that the State Department has repeatedly failed to provide hard evidence.
01:24:51.000 It still very much remains a mystery.
01:24:53.000 I just wanted to ask Dr Roberts Has it become any clearer in your mind who was responsible for the downing of MH17?
01:25:01.000 And will the NATO powers need to contrive or exploit a similar incident, maybe even on a bigger scale, to grease the skids for war against Russia in the future?
01:25:14.000 Well, you know, it seems clear that Kiev was responsible and probably with Washington's complicity.
01:25:23.000 And the reason this seems clear is that the Dutch government just the other day announced that they weren't releasing the results of the investigation.
01:25:36.000 Because when the investigation was set up, an agreement was made that any participant in the investigation could veto its release.
01:25:50.000 And apparently Kiv, the American puppet government, Kiv is blocked the release and the Dutch minister in charge of all this said that he thought it was more important to maintain good relations between the countries who were participating in the investigation than to release the results to the public.
01:26:17.000 So, assuming this news report is correct, what that tells us is that we are not going to get the results.
01:26:27.000 And if you're not going to get the results, that means they're unfavorable to Kiev and to Washington.
01:26:35.000 Clearly, if the results were unfavorable to Russia, they would be released.
01:26:42.000 Russia is not part of the investigation and would have no veto power over it.
01:26:48.000 At least that's my understanding from the news report.
01:26:52.000 Regardless, if it was against Russia, it would be released.
01:26:57.000 Think how long this has been going on.
01:26:59.000 It doesn't take this long to figure out what happened.
01:27:03.000 They're just not going to tell us.
01:27:05.000 It's something that will just disappear from the news, like Ebola, like everything else.
01:27:14.000 So do you think there has to be a new Cassus Belli, a new justification to increase aggression against Russia?
01:27:21.000 Or will they just ratchet up the sanctions and the tension as they've already been doing?
01:27:25.000 Or will they need a new MH17 style incident to exploit?
01:27:30.000 I don't think they need anything new.
01:27:32.000 If they start the violence again against the separatists, what they hope is to draw Russia into it, because what Washington really wants to do is to permanently break up the economic and political relations between Europe and Russia.
01:27:51.000 Putin knows this, and so he's not been drawn into it.
01:27:54.000 He's not sending troops.
01:27:57.000 He has essentially sacrificed the Russians in the separatist provinces in order to try to maintain his relationships with Europe, because he really understands that if Washington can break Russia from Europe, that Washington can continue with Europe as a vassal state.
01:28:20.000 Whereas if the economic and political developments between Russia and Europe continue, Europe will be pulled away from Washington and be pulled out of NATO.
01:28:32.000 And so he's willing to take the risk for the Russian residents in the in southeastern Ukraine in order to try to hold or to keep Europe from being irredeemably lost into American vassalage.
01:28:50.000 So in my opinion, that's that's what's going on.
01:28:54.000 It's going to be hard for them To get Russia into a war because of this, of what Putin sees, the consequences with Europe.
01:29:07.000 OK, David Knight?
01:29:08.000 Well, I think it's going to be interesting to see how this develops.
01:29:11.000 And as we pointed out earlier, as what you said, Dr. Roberts, that if Hillary Clinton becomes president, we are going to see war because I think she's going to be there with a Republican Congress that is going to rubber stamp Everything that she would want to do.
01:29:27.000 I wish we had more time to talk to you, but you can only stay with us to the bottom of the hour.
01:29:32.000 And thank you for joining us.
01:29:33.000 This is Dr. Paul Craig Roberts we've been talking to.
01:29:36.000 You can find more of his analysis at paulcraigroberts.org.
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01:29:46.000 Pleased to be with you.
01:29:47.000 We'll do it again.
01:29:48.000 Thank you.
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01:34:37.000 Joe Biggs and Jakari Jackson have been there this week awaiting the grand jury verdict and also noticing how tensions are building.
01:34:48.000 Joe, what do you see?
01:34:49.000 Joe Biggs, I'm standing outside of the Justice Center here in Clayton, Missouri.
01:34:55.000 This is a little downtown area where most of the decisions are made for the laws.
01:34:59.000 This is where the police department is for Ferguson.
01:35:02.000 So this is an area that everyone's keeping their eye on.
01:35:05.000 This is where the decision is supposed to come down from the grand jury.
01:35:08.000 And today, as you can see, if we pan over to the left, there's way more media out here today.
01:35:13.000 There's a lot of police that we haven't seen patrolling the area, people walking around, around the building as well.
01:35:20.000 Another interesting thing, people are bracing for an explosion of civil unrest, I should say.
01:35:27.000 I got a letter last night from an employee at a business in this area.
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01:35:42.000 And in the letter it says, due to the possibility of an uprise of civil unrest this weekend and next week, I warn you to stock up.
01:35:52.000 Wow.
01:35:52.000 to brace yourself, basically, to keep the patients there all week, all weekend into the next week.
01:35:59.000 And what they said they're going to do is they're going to lock the doors and not allow anyone to enter or leave.
01:36:03.000 So they're going to lock medical patients down, workers in these buildings in case something happens.
01:36:09.000 And they said they're going to cooperate with police and other government entities.
01:36:13.000 Wow, that's amazing.
01:36:13.000 Wow.
01:36:15.000 And we've been talking a little bit about this between Paul Joseph Watson and I earlier in the program.
01:36:21.000 How unfortunate that this is not about trying to get oversight or control of the police or setting limits or terms on the rules of engagement to try to stop this epidemic of violence.
01:36:32.000 But it's become a.
01:36:34.000 A race war.
01:36:35.000 It's something as part of that I think there's agent provocateurs that are threatening the police and that kind of feeds this whole mentality that they're trying to feed the police all the time that they are actually in a war on the streets and that the public are enemy combatants.
01:36:50.000 Yeah, it's nothing like that.
01:36:51.000 Last night, everyone was peacefully protesting.
01:36:54.000 It didn't get out of control for, you know, maybe it was like five minutes, but it didn't get out of control until all these police officers showed up and they started lining up in riot gear.
01:37:03.000 Before that, the people were just out protesting across the street in the parking lot.
01:37:07.000 Some moved over into the sidewalk in front of the police station.
01:37:11.000 But they were just out there protesting.
01:37:13.000 Once a police officer showed up with batons, shields, riot gear, then it made the people angry.
01:37:18.000 They're asking them, why do you come out here with guns?
01:37:20.000 Why do you come out here with shields?
01:37:21.000 Why do you come out here with all this gear?
01:37:24.000 You guys are inciting the violence.
01:37:25.000 We just wanted to stay here.
01:37:27.000 Now you guys are showing up and you're trying to flex your muscle and make your presence known.
01:37:31.000 So what a lot of people did is they got angry.
01:37:33.000 One of the police officers pepper-sprayed a young woman and that agitated the crowd a lot.
01:37:39.000 And what that did was push the protesters into the street.
01:37:42.000 They began to block traffic.
01:37:44.000 Jakar Jackson and I once again were standing in a very lawful spot on the sidewalk.
01:37:50.000 We were once again pushed by the police into the road.
01:37:53.000 Into an unlawful area where we're impeding the flow of traffic, and then last night yet again, they bomb rushed everybody, pushed them into a dark parking lot, started throwing people to the ground.
01:38:02.000 Someone said they were shot with a rubber bullet.
01:38:04.000 I didn't personally see that, but that's what was said.
01:38:07.000 There was a lot of scuffling going on.
01:38:09.000 One man fought with the police for a minute, was thrown to the ground.
01:38:12.000 Three people were arrested last night.
01:38:15.000 One 17 years old, one 19, and one 25.
01:38:19.000 We're watching anybody who's looking at the video feed of the broadcast can see the footage that you guys shot, the B-roll that's there, the police confronting people.
01:38:29.000 And that's exactly it, Joe.
01:38:31.000 They're getting needlessly confrontational.
01:38:33.000 There was an article just this last week, it was on NPR, I think, and they were talking about how some of the remote areas of Alaska might start to arm their policemen.
01:38:43.000 Says it's the last area in America where the police aren't armed at all.
01:38:47.000 They basically go out and what they do is they talk to people.
01:38:50.000 They don't try to get confrontational with them.
01:38:52.000 As a matter of fact, they talked to a police officer and he said part of the job is trying to talk to people in a non-confrontational way and yet we see just the opposite here.
01:39:04.000 Yeah.
01:39:05.000 Yeah, I mean, that's de-escalating the situation without using, without a show of force.
01:39:09.000 That makes someone a lot more comfortable.
01:39:11.000 When someone comes up to you with a shotgun pointed at you, wearing riot gear, in your mind you're thinking, alright, this person means business.
01:39:18.000 They're not trying to negotiate with me.
01:39:20.000 You don't see negotiators who go into a hostile, or a hostage situation with a gun and a shield.
01:39:26.000 No, they go dressed down, no gun on.
01:39:28.000 They go in, they confront the The hostage taker and they talk to them one-on-one because that's the only way you can de-escalate a situation.
01:39:35.000 You don't go in there with guns because all that does is incite more violence and make people uneasy about themselves and put themselves in a defensive posture.
01:39:43.000 I think they've been trying to incite this thing from day one, as I mentioned to Paul earlier.
01:39:48.000 If they had this evidence and they knew what was happening, they had a deposition, they didn't give anybody any indication of this.
01:39:55.000 They wanted to build this up into a racial confrontation, into a confrontation that further enforces this idea amongst the police that they're at war.
01:40:05.000 Paul, did you have a question that you wanted to ask Joe while he's there?
01:40:09.000 Yeah, I was just reading a headline that's just come out, Masked Ferguson Protesters with Guns Threaten Violence, which is basically a YouTube video of some people dressed up in black ski masks threatening violence.
01:40:20.000 I just wanted to ask Joe, if it was part of the conversation amongst the demonstrators, if they were aware of the fact that there are outside agitators, as there were back in August, planning maybe to escalate it from their side, is that something that people are talking about?
01:40:36.000 Um, there's a lot of people out there making, uh, empty threats, you know, via social media.
01:40:42.000 All the people that we've seen on the ground out here, these protests, when the cameras aren't on them, you know, they're out there hugging.
01:40:48.000 You see black people, white people hugging each other, talking, laughing, joking.
01:40:52.000 And for some reason, they only, the mainstream media always catches people when they're yelling at the police officers.
01:40:57.000 So it seems like All the people here are just angry and they want to fight.
01:41:01.000 You know, about the video you're talking about, I saw that about four days ago, and I did a little research myself.
01:41:07.000 That's actually a group out of Atlanta, so that's not something here in Ferguson, but Atlanta's another spot where they're talking about having demonstrations after this grand jury decision comes down.
01:41:18.000 You know, we have an article on InfoWars from Max Slavo where he's talking about outside agitators and one in particular, Elisa Fithian, who he says was partly responsible for organizing the violent protest in the battle for Seattle, essentially saying, you know, we need to take this to people.
01:41:37.000 Who don't look like me.
01:41:38.000 I'm presuming that she's black.
01:41:40.000 I haven't watched the video So I don't know if she's black or white, but I'm presuming that's what it is again an outside agitator feeding this Racial divide we're going to have Eric rush joining us in the in the next hour He's an author of negrophilia from slave birth block to pedestal.
01:41:58.000 And so he's going to be talking about the racial aspect of this, how people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton always seem to show up at the scene of, as Paul Joseph Watson put it, these ambiguous shootings to try to exploit the racial unrest there.
01:42:14.000 But have you heard anything else about the grand jury verdict?
01:42:20.000 Nothing is surfaced yet about that, is that correct?
01:42:23.000 Well, so what we're hearing so far today, and I believe at this time, this is probably the truest thing we've gotten so far, and that's because of the large...
01:42:33.000 You know, influx of all these mainstream media people that are starting to show up now and the heavy police presence today.
01:42:38.000 What we're being told is that the grand jury is going to call the family and give them a 48 hour advance notice.
01:42:45.000 So today is the day that they're supposed to call the family and also warn the military and the police in the area for what's going to happen after this decision comes out.
01:42:56.000 But, you know, from the people I've talked to, In Ferguson last night on the streets, they all know that the family, once they get that information, that there will be a leak.
01:43:05.000 They're going to make phone calls, they're going to tell somebody, and somebody on that inner circle is going to want to be the person that releases it out.
01:43:11.000 And I have a feeling by tonight, we'll know whether or not Darren Wilson is going to be indicted on these charges or not.
01:43:18.000 But what they're saying is they're going to try and wait and publicly let the media know on Sunday, 48 hours later.
01:43:23.000 But I have a feeling that's not going to happen.
01:43:25.000 Yeah, that's going to leak out and that's going to get Obama's amnesty off of the top of the headlines, isn't it?
01:43:32.000 Well, yeah, I mean that's the plan anyways, you know.
01:43:34.000 Let's go ahead and cover that up with a Ferguson burka.
01:43:38.000 Yeah, that's right.
01:43:40.000 Paul, did you have another question that you wanted to ask Joe?
01:43:43.000 Yeah, just reading some breaking news actually.
01:43:45.000 Ferguson schools are going to be closed Monday and Tuesday.
01:43:49.000 That's not confirmed, but it seems like a pretty strong rumour.
01:43:52.000 So, if this decision is announced today, it looks like that any trouble, any violence, if it happens, they expect it to happen on Sunday after that 48-hour notice.
01:44:03.000 Schools are closed on Monday and Tuesday.
01:44:05.000 Just wanted to ask Joe if Officer Darren Wilson has suggested that he will resign no matter what happens with the grand jury case.
01:44:13.000 Do you think that will serve to de-escalate any of the tensions or will it not make any difference?
01:44:19.000 I don't think it's going to make any difference.
01:44:20.000 You know, like I said, Ferguson has this gaping wound and it's been festering now for months on end because this has taken, quite honestly, too long to come to a decision on.
01:44:30.000 You know, they've been teeter-tottering with the media, you know, acting like they're going to release the information.
01:44:35.000 People around here are fed up.
01:44:37.000 They're tired.
01:44:37.000 The hate's been built up for this guy.
01:44:39.000 You know, regardless if they indict him or not, he's not ever going to be a police officer again, I don't think.
01:44:44.000 His face has been on too many TV screens throughout America.
01:44:47.000 I don't foresee him ever having a police beat job where he's going up and down the street patrolling whatsoever.
01:44:53.000 So regardless of that outcome, you know, it's probably in his best interest to quit.
01:44:59.000 And from what I heard, too, they're going to give him a nice little $500,000 Payout for that as well.
01:45:05.000 Whoa.
01:45:06.000 Whoa.
01:45:06.000 I want to ask you if you've, uh, you say the people that are there, they're kind of civil.
01:45:12.000 What is the sense that you get from people there?
01:45:13.000 I mean, are they looking at any solutions that they're proposing?
01:45:17.000 Have they proposed anything?
01:45:18.000 I mean, we talked earlier about Frank Serpico's op-ed piece for Politico that came out about three weeks ago.
01:45:26.000 He had six specific proposals, things like community involvement from police officers, and that means a lot more than just having A certain percentage of people who are black and a certain percentage of white.
01:45:37.000 He's talking about something that's far deeper than that.
01:45:39.000 He's talking about having oversight of the police with independent commissions that are set up in the community.
01:45:45.000 Has anybody proposed any concrete solutions to the police situation?
01:45:51.000 Not that I know of.
01:45:52.000 I haven't heard anything to that nature whatsoever, but when you go out and you talk to people out here on the streets, when you ask them, what do you think's going on?
01:45:59.000 First thing they do, they roll their eyes, they put their head down, And it's that Ferguson fatigue.
01:46:04.000 It's set in for everybody in this area, in the surrounding St.
01:46:07.000 Louis area.
01:46:08.000 Everyone's tired of this.
01:46:09.000 They just want it to be over with.
01:46:10.000 But you have a lot of the young protesters who are really angry.
01:46:14.000 They don't have the same life experiences as the older people who've lived in Ferguson for 50, 60 years.
01:46:20.000 You know, the older crowds that we talked to, they just wanted to be over with.
01:46:23.000 Regardless of the situation, they want everyone to be peaceful.
01:46:26.000 But a lot of the younger people, they're mad, they're angry, they don't know how to to focus that anger in a positive way.
01:46:33.000 And what we're hearing a lot of is people want to come down to Clayton.
01:46:37.000 They want to riot in this area because this is where the decisions are made.
01:46:40.000 But when you talk to a lot of the citizens in Ferguson as well, what they're thinking of, what they're more worried about are the outside agitators.
01:46:47.000 They know that they've had discussions with a lot of these young, young adults who live in Ferguson and they've talked and they said, hey, destroying our neighborhood is not going to do anything.
01:46:56.000 It's only going to harm you.
01:46:58.000 You know, you're going to grow up.
01:46:59.000 You're going to want to have kids.
01:46:59.000 You can't raise kids in a burnt down city.
01:47:02.000 So think about that.
01:47:03.000 But what they're worried about now are these outside agitators from other states coming in, who are professional protesters, rioters, anarchists, who feed off of that anger, that energy, and they just want total and complete chaos.
01:47:15.000 And that's what people in this area are worried about.
01:47:18.000 The people are going to come in here, burn the city down, and then fly back to their homes in California, New York, Chicago, wherever it may be, and go back into their cozy homes or apartments and sit back and watch everything go up in flames on Fox and CNN.
01:47:32.000 Yeah, that's the problem.
01:47:33.000 And that is, you know, that they're not going to focus this in any positive way that could really make it better for that community or make it better for anywhere else.
01:47:41.000 And as Paul pointed out, they always like to pick these ambiguous situations where they can get both sides even more at war with each other, even more angry, try to balkanize the population even more into racial groups or whatever.
01:47:55.000 Paul, do you have any other comments that you wanted to, questions you want to ask Joe while he's there?
01:47:59.000 Yeah, I was just wondering from being on the ground there, Joe, we've seen comments by some of the protesters about moving away from West Florissant, which I believe is the main area where they've been congregated, and going to South Florissant, because that's where the white people live, is basically what they're saying.
01:48:16.000 Where do you think these protests will be situated, and are they going to target businesses again, or is this just going to be a general street protest from what you can see there on the ground?
01:48:27.000 Well, South Florissant is right where the police station and fire department is.
01:48:31.000 Now, back on Halloween, there was a, they called it a vandal.
01:48:36.000 That was a term that Fox 2 used.
01:48:38.000 Someone hit a transformer and knocked out the power in that area and it actually took out the power to the police department and the fire station.
01:48:46.000 So, that was one of the threats by one of the militants was to hit the power grid and take that out.
01:48:51.000 It's not going to be South Florissant that I'm hearing.
01:48:53.000 I'm hearing it's what they call South City.
01:48:55.000 South City is where we're at now, like Clayton.
01:48:58.000 This is a predominantly white area.
01:48:59.000 A lot of ritzy neighborhoods just south of here in that area.
01:49:03.000 This is where the agitators, the militants are focusing a lot of their anger on.
01:49:08.000 Because, like I said, this is the Justice Center, the courthouse is right over here, the police station's right over here.
01:49:13.000 This is where all the laws are made.
01:49:15.000 These are the people they blame for not handling the situation about the death of Mike Brown very well.
01:49:21.000 And they're very mad at these, the lawmakers, the politicians.
01:49:24.000 And the higher-ups and the police force in this area.
01:49:27.000 So the word on the street, we spoke to a preacher the other day, too.
01:49:30.000 He believes that this is where most of the violence will be focused on, here in the Clayton area, around the courthouse, the Justice Center, and surrounding white areas as well.
01:49:39.000 That's why a lot of the schools in the area that you heard about will possibly shut down on Monday and Tuesday, just because they want a brace for the worst.
01:49:47.000 Everyone's hoping for the best, but we saw what happened in August.
01:49:50.000 And with the National Guard being called in, The pictures I saw yesterday of people following them coming into St.
01:49:56.000 Louis, right now as we speak they should be setting up around that red perimeter that we have a picture that Kit Daniels did an article right now.
01:50:03.000 They're supposed to have National Guard set up at different areas and posting up and waiting on that verdict so when it happens they can close in and try to Uh, de-escalate the situation, I guess, as best as they can.
01:50:15.000 But, at the end of the day, they're gonna strip people's liberties away.
01:50:17.000 Like I said, they're, you know, already telling local businesses that they're gonna lock the doors and keep anybody who's inside locked in there for as long as they have to.
01:50:26.000 Well, you know, getting in people's faces with guns and shields and tanks isn't really going to de-escalate the situation.
01:50:32.000 As you pointed out earlier, Joe, it's only going to escalate it.
01:50:35.000 Yeah.
01:50:35.000 It's going to make the people that are there very angry.
01:50:38.000 It's going to increase the anger.
01:50:39.000 And, of course, we have agent provocateurs from outside the area there as well.
01:50:45.000 A violent confrontation is only going to make this thing worse unless they come forward with real concrete proposals, and those are going to have to come from outside of City Hall.
01:50:54.000 If the community could get itself together to have some proposals like that, that would really help.
01:50:58.000 But we've got to go to commercial break.
01:51:00.000 We'll be right back.
01:51:01.000 We've got our reporters in Ferguson, Missouri.
01:51:03.000 I've got Paul Joseph Watson in the UK.
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01:54:04.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
01:54:17.000 On this Friday, November 21st, we have our reporters in Ferguson, Missouri.
01:54:22.000 We just talked to Joe Biggs.
01:54:23.000 We're going to go back to Jakari Jackson there.
01:54:25.000 They've been there all week observing the build-up to the grand jury verdict that is expected to be released today, at least perhaps as Joe was telling us.
01:54:36.000 Secretly or confidentially to the family of Michael Brown.
01:54:40.000 That's probably not going to stay confidential.
01:54:42.000 They expect this to erupt this weekend.
01:54:44.000 We also have Paul Joseph Watson on the line with us as co-host from the UK.
01:54:49.000 Let's go back to Ferguson to Jakari Jackson.
01:54:51.000 Jakari.
01:54:53.000 Yes.
01:54:53.000 Sir, did you have something that you wanted to add?
01:54:54.000 Oh, okay.
01:54:55.000 You know, he doesn't typically have a guy talking to us off camera.
01:54:58.000 Ja'Kari Jackson from Clayton, Missouri.
01:55:00.000 Joe Biggs was just telling me we had a breaking news situation that the prosecutor is ready to have a press conference to announce some of the things that are going on with the Darien Wilson trial.
01:55:09.000 So as soon as we're done here, we'll try to get over there and see if we can get into that.
01:55:13.000 But meanwhile, yeah, we've talked to a lot of people who are in the area.
01:55:17.000 The gentleman who was just speaking to us off camera, he was saying that he didn't expect The outcome to be all that bad as far as the street response.
01:55:24.000 He didn't so much expect to see the riots and the protests and all the things that we've seen previously.
01:55:29.000 A lot of people that we've talked to, they have varying degrees of concern.
01:55:33.000 Some people think it's gonna be worse than it was back in August.
01:55:35.000 Some people think it's just gonna be a minor thing, so only time will tell.
01:55:39.000 But I do agree that, you know, once this thing is announced, you know, whether the prosecutor tells us exactly what's going on or they kind of string us along and just, you know, how they do.
01:55:48.000 You've dealt with these PIOs before, Davey.
01:55:51.000 They give you just enough to say that they gave you something, even though they didn't tell you anything at all.
01:55:55.000 That's right.
01:55:55.000 So I don't have the highest hopes, but we'll go try to check it out regardless.
01:55:59.000 So the people here, they're getting prepared, regardless of what that means for them.
01:56:02.000 Some people have purchased firearms, some people have purchased food, some of the schools have closed down.
01:56:07.000 And Joe, did you have something you wanted to share?
01:56:10.000 Well, you guys reported earlier.
01:56:11.000 You reported earlier this week.
01:56:12.000 Hold on, breaking news real quick.
01:56:14.000 Barnes Christian Hospital has three floors that have been cleared out in anticipation of the victims of rioting.
01:56:22.000 One floor for injured police, one floor for injured protesters, one floor for injured police family members.
01:56:27.000 That's happening right now.
01:56:29.000 Wow, they didn't have any space for me to hear, but okay.
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01:56:40.000 It's a lot of stuff going on here.
01:56:41.000 People are making preparations, you know, regardless if you think this is a big deal or not.
01:56:45.000 The people here are making serious preparations.
01:56:47.000 You just heard about the hospital.
01:56:48.000 The National Guard is ready to move.
01:56:50.000 We see the cops already out in riot gear.
01:56:52.000 At least they go out to the protests there in riot gear and all that.
01:56:55.000 So the people here on the ground are taking this very seriously.
01:56:58.000 The majority of people I've talked to since I've been here, they're peaceful people.
01:57:03.000 They do expect some agent provocateurs.
01:57:05.000 If you guys see that video I posted, not last night but the night before, I talked to the guy in the Guy Fawkes mask.
01:57:10.000 And he was saying that the majority of the people here are good, peaceful people, but they do expect the agent provocateurs and people who just want to come in and kick up stuff to burn down, to riot, to loot.
01:57:20.000 They do expect those people to come in, but by and large, the crowds here are mostly peaceful.
01:57:25.000 Oh, absolutely.
01:57:26.000 And as you guys reported earlier this week, gun sales are up 300%.
01:57:30.000 In some cases at some of these stores, they're saying that 75% of those sales are first-time gun owners.
01:57:36.000 So you guys have got your infidel body armor there.
01:57:39.000 Hopefully you're going to be safe in this, but like you said, they don't have a floor for reporters.
01:57:44.000 That's amazing news.
01:57:45.000 They've cleared away three floors.
01:57:46.000 One for protesters, one for police, and one for the families of police.
01:57:51.000 That's what I'm concerned about.
01:57:52.000 And that's that kind of agent provocateuring where you guys are the threats.
01:57:57.000 You remember David, they came out earlier this week.
01:57:59.000 Uh, the, uh, the list of the targets got released, you know, as many things on there, including Monsanto, other local businesses, and also many officers' families.
01:58:08.000 And to anybody out there watching, uh, if you think that targeting the families of these officers is going to do anything besides just agitate them to the point where they will have no patience, I'm not exactly sure what you're expecting to happen.
01:58:19.000 It just feeds the narrative that this is a war zone, and that's not the message we need to be sending to our police.
01:58:25.000 We need to be sending a different message to them.
01:58:27.000 Well, thank you.
01:58:28.000 Thank you, Jakari.
01:58:29.000 We're going to stay up with you to see what's happening there.
01:58:32.000 Of course, there's a press release coming up.
01:58:33.000 We have agent provocateurs that are covert.
01:58:35.000 We also have overt agent provocateurs like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, the FBI informant.
01:58:40.000 Oh, they don't like Al Sharpton.
01:58:42.000 We talked to some people yesterday.
01:58:43.000 That's right.
01:58:43.000 We're going to be right back.
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02:00:24.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:00:28.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
02:00:35.000 I'm David Knight in Austin, joined with Paul Joseph Watson in the UK.
02:00:38.000 We were just talking to our reporters in Ferguson, Missouri, as people there are awaiting the grand jury's verdict.
02:00:46.000 And of course we're talking about the agent provocateurs who are threatening the police, threatening their family.
02:00:51.000 Joe Biggs broke the news that they are clearing out three floors of the hospital there.
02:00:55.000 One for police, one for protesters, and one for the families of the police.
02:01:00.000 That is not the message that the people need to be sending to the police.
02:01:05.000 They're going to have to reform the situation in that community as well as other communities of the rules of engagement of the police.
02:01:05.000 They need to come together.
02:01:14.000 But all this does is escalate things.
02:01:17.000 It's like throwing a Molotov cocktail when you threaten the families of the police.
02:01:22.000 And of course, we have agent provocateurs that are there covertly.
02:01:25.000 We have had agent provocateurs that show up at all of these ambiguous situations, people like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton.
02:01:32.000 We're going to be talking in the next segment to Eric Rush.
02:01:36.000 He's going to be He's the author of Negrophilia from Slave Block to Pedestal and he takes on the race pimps like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.
02:01:46.000 He takes them on directly and he talks about what's really behind this and of course that's the other unfortunate outcome that they've engineered here in Ferguson is to turn it into one race against another.
02:01:58.000 Of course, the black community has felt the brunt of the epidemic of police violence more than the white community has, but that's not the way to confront this problem.
02:02:09.000 There are things that need to be done.
02:02:11.000 We've talked about Frank Serpico's suggestions about how they have outside control of the police as well as mandating police involvement in the community.
02:02:22.000 Not Not just hiring a certain number of people of one race or the other, because if they're not actively involved in the community, whether they're white or black, they're going to identify more as being blue than anything else.
02:02:33.000 Paul, your comments on what we just heard from Ferguson.
02:02:37.000 Yeah, it's interesting that they're having the press conference on it, because obviously we thought there would be a delay before the decision, the actual announcement of it.
02:02:45.000 There's an interesting article out in the Washington Times though.
02:02:47.000 Americans say officers should not be indicted, 81% predict violent reaction.
02:02:53.000 So only one in four Americans believe that white police officer Darren Wilson should be charged with murder by the grand jury in the shooting death of unarmed black teenager Michael Brown, according to a poll released Friday.
02:03:05.000 So only one in four believe that he's guilty of murder.
02:03:09.000 81% predict a violent reaction and only 10% predict that there will be no violent reaction whatsoever.
02:03:18.000 So that kind of squares with what we were talking about earlier regarding the ambiguity of the shooting itself.
02:03:24.000 I understand people's, you know, I understand the black community looking at this verdict and saying they're getting away with it yet again because we've seen so many clear-cut cases where the police do not police themselves.
02:03:36.000 And that was one of the things that Frank Serpico said.
02:03:38.000 He said, get over the idea that the police are going to police themselves.
02:03:40.000 It's not going to happen without outside oversight.
02:03:44.000 But there are cases where there are justified police shootings.
02:03:48.000 It's such a long history of the other kind.
02:03:50.000 I can see that many people there are going to go ahead and take out their frustration and their anger at the system by just striking out blindly in violence rather than trying to change the system from the outside.
02:04:03.000 I mentioned the case earlier.
02:04:03.000 Well, precisely.
02:04:05.000 There was actually, a few years ago, I forgot the name of the individual, but it was on the guy on the subway that was basically murdered in cold blood.
02:04:12.000 That was a black guy, I believe.
02:04:14.000 Then recently, the case in New York, the guy selling cigarettes basically put in a chokehold by a police officer, choked him to death.
02:04:23.000 And again, we didn't see any kind of mass protest over that incident.
02:04:28.000 Even though it was flagrantly an example of police brutality, there was no debate about it whatsoever.
02:04:34.000 I think there's a lot of people who, you know, we talk about people putting up with the police violence against the black community.
02:04:40.000 Most of these truly egregious situations are against the homeless.
02:04:44.000 And people in this country seem to have absolutely no sympathy for the homeless.
02:04:49.000 They have no sympathy whatsoever, even to the extent of allowing the people, as we talked to the 90-year-old gentleman, He's been threatened with jail multiple times because he's feeding the homeless.
02:04:58.000 They certainly don't care if they beat a homeless man to death on the streets like they did Kelly Thomas in California and get away with it.
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02:08:36.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
02:08:37.000 I'm David Knight.
02:08:38.000 We have Paul Joseph Watson with us from the UK.
02:08:41.000 And joining us now is Eric Rush, author of Negrophilia, from Slave Block to Pedestal.
02:08:47.000 You know, we've seen Al Sharpton and Ferguson, as well as Jesse Jackson, show up.
02:08:52.000 They always show up, as Paul put it, at these ambiguous situations.
02:08:56.000 When there's a clear-cut injustice, you don't usually see them.
02:08:59.000 But when it's something that is kind of ambiguous, and they can use that to really separate the races, you know, because It looked like for at the beginning everything that we were hearing sounded like it was yet another case of an unjustified use of force by the police and then after they let that narrative simmer for quite some time and built up a lot of attention over that they then start releasing evidence that would clear the officer.
02:09:25.000 So it looks like a deliberate manipulation as well as the timing of this grand jury verdict.
02:09:32.000 And, of course, anybody that knows anything about grand juries knows that they're not the same as a regular jury.
02:09:38.000 Juries are pretty much under the influence of judges.
02:09:41.000 They, in many cases, unfortunately, act as a rubber stamp for the judge, not taking into account their right and their duty to judge the law as well as the facts of the case.
02:09:50.000 So they don't usually think independently, but certainly with a grand jury, that is the case.
02:09:55.000 As many people point out, you can indict a ham sandwich with a right grand jury.
02:09:59.000 So this timing is very suspicious.
02:10:01.000 But joining us now is Eric Rush.
02:10:03.000 I want to talk to him about the way they have built up racial tension here.
02:10:08.000 Thank you for joining us, Mr. Rush.
02:10:10.000 Thank you very much for having me on.
02:10:12.000 Now, we see this over and over again, as you point out, and you call out Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, the people who have basically made a career out of exacerbating race relations wherever they can go.
02:10:23.000 You kind of call them out as to, you know, to doing this, but you also have something else, I think, that's very interesting to say about this whole notion that they've sold us about white privilege.
02:10:34.000 I'll let you have the floor and explain your thesis to us.
02:10:38.000 Well, the fact of the matter is that it's kind of, as I talk about in my book, Negrophilia, from Slave Lock to Pedestal, America's Racial Obsession, you know, you have on the one hand the political left that is really exploiting black Americans.
02:10:57.000 I mean, in a way, they're sort of like the new plantation owners.
02:11:02.000 But then the other side of the coin is that Blacks cannot be criticized for anything.
02:11:09.000 You have many situations in which blacks are not held accountable.
02:11:15.000 I think this Michael Brown shooting is sort of a case in point.
02:11:21.000 His participation In the events leading up to his unfortunate demise are not only not being looked at in a, you know, in a realistic context, they're just been, they've just been surrealistically spun in the other direction.
02:11:42.000 And I believe that that has to do with, you know, I believe that has to do not only with the economic imperative that some activists, Jesse, Al, the rest of them have for, you know, advancing the idea that America is still an institutionally racist nation.
02:12:01.000 But I think that there are other political motivations going on.
02:12:06.000 We can get into the administration and Eric Holder and all of them if you want, but it is part of this racial orthodoxy that has been advanced.
02:12:21.000 It really has been advanced to the detriment of blacks and to the benefit of people who either politically or economically or both are profiting from this, you know, advancing this twisted worldview.
02:12:36.000 Yeah, we even see like in the recent election we see Mary Landrieu in Louisiana Who made the amazing claim that her sinking popularity and the sinking popularity of Obama was because people didn't like women and blacks.
02:12:49.000 When Obama's been elected twice, she's been elected three times, she can't admit that this could be something about what they're doing, their actual actions, their policies.
02:12:59.000 Essentially, the pedestal has completely swung the other way, hasn't it?
02:13:03.000 Like you point out in the subtitle of your book, from slave block to pedestal.
02:13:07.000 We have put people on a pedestal, especially people like Barack Obama.
02:13:10.000 You can't criticize him without being called a racist.
02:13:14.000 Absolutely.
02:13:15.000 And for example, the fact that he was elected twice and did have this massive support, at least, you know, the first time that he was elected, all of that goes by the wayside when they want to pull out the race card.
02:13:29.000 You know, in the case of, for example, Trayvon Martin.
02:13:33.000 It didn't matter that George Zimmerman was this little Latino man.
02:13:40.000 The press and the agitators spun him into this Nordic god with his war hammer, prowling around for little black kids to squish.
02:13:50.000 And people bought it.
02:13:52.000 I mean, that's the thing that blows my mind.
02:13:54.000 The press picked up on it.
02:13:57.000 Eric Holder, the Obama administration, and people bought it.
02:14:00.000 And it was just, I mean, I felt like I was in a bad science fiction movie.
02:14:05.000 Yeah, absolutely.
02:14:06.000 You know, it's interesting, in your book you said, and of course, Barack Obama, Mary Landrieu, couldn't have been elected if men didn't vote for her, if white people didn't vote for Obama, and yet they always spin it that way.
02:14:22.000 You point out that in 1964, you said in your book, there was justifiable collective shame on the part of whites and justifiable collective anger On the part of blacks, there was a fundamental change in the hearts and minds of white people at that point in time.
02:14:36.000 Address that a little bit.
02:14:37.000 That was kind of the pivotal issue.
02:14:39.000 There was a real problem there.
02:14:40.000 People addressed it.
02:14:41.000 I think they went maybe too far to the other extreme, as you point out, putting people on a pedestal rather than just handling them as individuals.
02:14:50.000 Well, you know, Americans, I don't know if it has to do with our character or if it has to do with the effectiveness of the propaganda machine, but we have this habit of just blasting by the sort of happy medium, the middle ground, where we sort of need to live.
02:15:09.000 And we've done that in a number of areas.
02:15:11.000 Um, the whole race thing being, uh, you know, one of them, you know, we go from, you know, blacks being second class citizens to, um, blacks being exploited by the very people who are supposed to be helping them and young black multimillionaires getting on television every single day.
02:15:31.000 Talking about this being an institutionally racist nation.
02:15:35.000 Hello?
02:15:37.000 Exactly, yeah.
02:15:38.000 And it's something that is damaging to black people as well, as Walter Williams has pointed out many times.
02:15:45.000 The fact that they put them on a pedestal is damaging to the black community as well, because it's a condescending thing to do that, isn't it?
02:15:51.000 It's saying you can't achieve this on your own.
02:15:54.000 We're going to set aside quotas for you.
02:15:56.000 We're going to put you on a pedestal.
02:15:58.000 Well, yeah.
02:15:59.000 I remember when Affirmative Action came out, for example, and I was about to start applying for colleges and stuff, and jobs and what have you, and it drove me out of my tree that they were setting up this sort of structure
02:16:19.000 That was going to not only advance the whole reverse racism, unfairness, that whole deal, but that it was going to wind up in the long term being detrimental to minorities, blacks, women, what have you.
02:16:36.000 And again, it's a different kind of subtle bigotry, but it's bigotry nonetheless.
02:16:43.000 Yeah, I see, I grew up in the South, and I see in this reverse racism, the quotas and that sort of thing, I see kind of a hint back to Reconstruction in some, I see some parallels to that.
02:16:55.000 It's part of the history that I think that America doesn't really know, and I think that was a key part In the change in the hearts and minds of the white community.
02:17:04.000 I think a lot of them had forgotten what had happened there.
02:17:07.000 And it's like, why do we have these laws here where we're oppressing this group of people?
02:17:12.000 But I think what had happened was essentially what we're seeing happening in Ferguson, where they misdirect the anger from one group to the other.
02:17:20.000 They pit one group against the other.
02:17:21.000 That was, I think, when I look back at Reconstruction, they took a kind of An oppression that was masquerading as a paternalism during slavery, and they misdirected that into an actual hatred of blacks during Reconstruction that I think turned up in these Jim Crow laws.
02:17:39.000 And after a generation where people had lost that history, it's like, we don't really need this anymore.
02:17:44.000 But they always seem to do that.
02:17:46.000 They seem to be able to pit one group against another, and that seems to be the way that they effectively govern, by divide and conquer.
02:17:54.000 Absolutely.
02:17:55.000 The cultural balkanization is key.
02:17:58.000 And it's not just a racial thing.
02:18:00.000 I mean, they're exploiting, you know, ageism, sexism, sexual orientationism, just any kind, any sort of subtle difference between, you know, subgroups in our American society that they have been able to exploit.
02:18:21.000 They do that, and I believe that this administration has really taken it to another level with regard to that cultural balkanization, and we're seeing that play out right now in Ferguson.
02:18:34.000 You know, the left compromises blacks economically, educationally, all these different ways, and then when something like this Michael Brown thing happens, whether or not it's legitimate, Yes.
02:18:48.000 is immaterial in terms of the police brutality angle, but then they point to the name of blacks' pain being white racism.
02:18:57.000 No, it isn't.
02:18:58.000 It's bad public policy.
02:19:01.000 That's the problem.
02:19:02.000 You know, and of course, in terms of balkanization, we saw that in heavy handwriting last night with Obama's announcement and the way it was handled, doing it on the anniversary of Mexico's independence, doing it right before the Latin Grammys.
02:19:18.000 And of course, we have no idea...
02:19:20.000 How many people are going to be affected by this?
02:19:22.000 Because it's an entitlement program.
02:19:23.000 We don't know that it's going to be five million people.
02:19:25.000 And he's incentivizing illegal immigration because it's the perfect form of Balkanization.
02:19:30.000 You not only got cultural differences that you can play up, but of course language differences that they can play up.
02:19:38.000 And of course they're trying to play up a racial aspect to it as well.
02:19:41.000 We're talking to Eric Rush, the author of Negrophilia.
02:19:44.000 We're going to be right back after the break and I promise I'm going to give Paul Joseph Watson a chance to jump in and ask you some questions.
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02:24:03.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
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02:24:22.000 We have with us Eric Rush, the author of Negrophilia, From Slave Block to Pedestal.
02:24:27.000 We thought it'd be great to have him on to talk about race relations and what has really happened in this country, especially because of what's going on in Ferguson.
02:24:37.000 We see conscious race baiting and manipulation, divide and conquer strategies that are going on there.
02:24:43.000 And joining us also is Paul Joseph Watson.
02:24:46.000 I got to ask all the questions in the last segment.
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02:25:08.000 Go ahead, Paul, do you have a question for Mr. Rush?
02:25:11.000 Yeah, congratulations on your book, by the way, Eric.
02:25:14.000 I see an overwhelming amount of five-star reviews on Amazon, which, for an obviously contentious subject, is quite the achievement.
02:25:21.000 But I wanted to ask you about Obama himself, because we know his upbringing, his mentors, I'm speaking of the likes of Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, the influence that they had on him, how did that shape Barack Obama's views on race and class in America?
02:25:40.000 Well, it absolutely had a major effect.
02:25:44.000 I mean, the guy was raised, not just in his adult life, but from the time that he was fairly young.
02:25:55.000 Whichever origins narrative you want to believe, and there are a few of them out there, the common denominator is always a very
02:26:09.000 You know, anti-Western, anti-American, in some cases anti-Christian, anti-Semitic, anti-capitalist, you know, anti-all of the things that we sort of grew up as, you know, being taught, you know, most of our worldview in as like these things, there's nothing wrong with these things.
02:26:30.000 We don't have a perfect society.
02:26:32.000 You know, as we were talking about in the last segment, you know, we sort of matured as a country and woke up one day and was like, whoa, you know, it's not cool to have these, you know, whole segment of society, like, meaning blacks being you know, second-class citizens, sort of like they woke up one day and said, hey, you know, there's women not voting.
02:26:57.000 That isn't cool either.
02:26:58.000 So, you know, we're not perfect.
02:27:01.000 We're sort of evolving in a way.
02:27:03.000 And so we had these people who sort of, you know, they stick to this idea for whatever their, you know, mental makeup or neurosis or whatever it happens to be that America is the name of the world's mental makeup or neurosis or whatever it happens to be that And Obama was, he was suckled on that, basically.
02:27:28.000 So if you look at his early life, all the way up through his college, you know, early employment, everything, it was, he was almost exclusively exposed to, mentored by, socialized by, and with people who hated America and the West.
02:27:46.000 Yeah, you know, I think a lot of people are not familiar with the upbringing of Obama in Indonesia.
02:27:53.000 There's a movie that came out, I didn't know anything really about the Indonesian situation that he grew up in or went to Indonesia shortly afterwards, but there's a movie called The Act of Killing that really sheds a lot of light on that regime there that his adoptive father brought him up in.
02:28:11.000 He was Very tightly connected to that regime and of course his mom was there as many of us believe as part of the CIA USAID's Openly been a part of the CIA her parents were both in the CIA.
02:28:23.000 He grew up in an alien culture Grew up in an authoritarian culture that had just committed mass murder on a gigantic scale and then he comes back to America and he hangs out with Frank Davis and It was a bomb thrower Bill Ayers, thank you But yeah, he hangs out with those guys.
02:28:44.000 He finishes off his education there.
02:28:46.000 I mean, regardless of the photoshopped birth certificate, his origins should have caused people to have great concern about that.
02:28:53.000 Absolutely, and few people know as well that there were people who were involved in his early life other than those you have mentioned who were politically active and interactive.
02:29:09.000 People from the leftist community in the United States who were politically active with the Sukarno regime and all of those guys in Indonesia.
02:29:18.000 In addition to which, you also have to remember that that is an Islamic, if not Islamist, society over there.
02:29:29.000 Yes, and of course, the first time he appeared in public at Georgetown University after the inauguration, he insisted that they cover up all Christian symbols at Georgetown University.
02:29:37.000 It's like, who is this guy?
02:29:39.000 Some kind of a vampire?
02:29:40.000 I don't know, but we're going to be right back.
02:29:42.000 We're going to take your calls for author Eric Rush, Negrophilia.
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02:34:53.000 Now, reading from Mr. Rush's book, Negrophilia, here's one of his definitions.
02:34:59.000 Of course, he talks about it quite extensively, but I just want to read this quote.
02:35:03.000 He says, Negrophilia is not by nature a conscious partiality toward or devotion to black people, but a subliminal persuasion toward affinity.
02:35:12.000 It's essentially the result of an ongoing propaganda campaign that has underpinned positive stereotypes.
02:35:19.000 I think that's interesting, especially in light of all the controversy we've heard lately about Bill Cosby.
02:35:25.000 He had the show in the 1980s.
02:35:27.000 That was a great show that was really kind of showing positive stereotypes, almost in an over-the-top, unbelievable way, like we would have seen back in the 1950s.
02:35:35.000 And, you know, Mr. Rush, when I looked at that, I always thought that was a good thing.
02:35:41.000 My curiosity at the time, and I think it kind of reflects on your book here a little bit, is the fact that In the 1980s, even though they could show the perfect black family, we couldn't have had a perfect white family on television really without getting laughed out of town.
02:35:56.000 Don't you think?
02:35:58.000 Absolutely, and I think that kind of plays to the double standard.
02:36:03.000 I don't expect people to be perfect.
02:36:06.000 I don't expect our society to be perfect.
02:36:09.000 I want to get away from that segment that thinks we can have utopia, because we really can't.
02:36:19.000 It's you have to get to where you can recognize when when when you're being exposed to an agenda or propaganda or not and of course when you have something that is innocuous as a as a You know, NBC sitcom or whatever with this iconic, you know, beloved star, which Bill Cosby, I was going to say, is, at least he was then.
02:36:46.000 You know, it was a nice, it was a nice show, as you said, but, you know, you have to put it into context.
02:36:52.000 Like, what is it really representing?
02:36:55.000 I mean, there were a lot of things that came out of that show, even if it was a good one, that bugged me.
02:37:03.000 For example, it may not be something that you had picked up on, but when the Intelligentsia decided that we were going to call blacks African Americans now, the Cosby Show was Right out in front with that.
02:37:24.000 Right out in front.
02:37:26.000 And I don't use that term.
02:37:28.000 To me, African American is like, what the hell is that?
02:37:31.000 You know, I mean, if you're an African who's a naturalized citizen, US citizen, I guess you're an African American.
02:37:39.000 But I'm not, and most of the black people I know are not.
02:37:44.000 I mean, because they don't know from Africa.
02:37:46.000 I mean, and then again, what is with the necessity to hyphenate every damn individual in this country?
02:37:54.000 Exactly, exactly.
02:37:55.000 We're so caught up on labels, and I don't know, you know, it's amazing how many times I've seen in my lifetime the label that they want to put on people that we now call black or call African-American.
02:38:06.000 It's like, why do they keep changing it?
02:38:08.000 And I think that all boils down to this premise that you've got in this book.
02:38:13.000 I want to give people, some callers, a chance to ask some questions and comments.
02:38:17.000 We've got David in Missouri.
02:38:19.000 He wanted to ask a question about Ferguson.
02:38:21.000 David, are you close to Ferguson?
02:38:24.000 Oh yeah, I mean not close, probably 100 miles west.
02:38:29.000 Okay.
02:38:29.000 Closer to Kansas City.
02:38:30.000 We had a question for Mr. Rush.
02:38:33.000 Yeah, I mean this is great to talk to you, Paul, and Mr. Rush all at once.
02:38:37.000 I mean, I've heard you, David, and Paul say that, what are the people out here, what are their, like, opinions on alternative things to do other than violence?
02:38:51.000 I mean, I say everybody gets a Transparent, legal, neighborhood watch, armed neighborhood watch, and everybody takes care of each other.
02:39:00.000 But, I mean, my question to him, Mr. Rush, I think Bill Cosby was, for the most part of his life, definitely, you know, juiced in, let's say.
02:39:10.000 But, he, I mean, I grew up watching, like, you know, Cosby's show, Family Matters.
02:39:17.000 I'm a Caucasian person.
02:39:19.000 I think both shows.
02:39:20.000 I mean, anything on TV is there to, you know, pass time, at least.
02:39:24.000 But my question is, what is your, to Mr. Rush, what is your non-violent alternative to this Ferguson situation and situations to come?
02:39:35.000 Because in every news article it says, white cop, black male.
02:39:39.000 Like, that's just ridiculous.
02:39:41.000 God bless you guys.
02:39:42.000 Yeah, well, you know, as someone was talking about this, I think, in the previous hour of the show, and that is the fact that, you know, the police typically aren't going to police themselves.
02:39:56.000 And so, you know, you have to, while I have a respect for law enforcement, you do have to sort of look at the police with a critical eye to some extent.
02:40:06.000 Because you do have incidents of police brutality, and sometimes it's race-based, sometimes it's not, sometimes it's just a matter of the police involved having become these really jaded, brutal individuals, and those things have to be handled on an individual basis.
02:40:25.000 The problem that we have here isn't, you know, there may be a certain, you know, well, there is a certain level of police misfeasance everywhere you're going to go.
02:40:42.000 I mean, it doesn't matter.
02:40:43.000 But the problem that we're having here is interpretation.
02:40:47.000 When you have A situation in which you have so many disenfranchised blacks, in this case it just happens to be blacks, who are disenfranchised for mostly economic reasons that can be traced to things other than white racism.
02:41:06.000 And then you have it exploited due to this incident that, you know, arises Michael Brown.
02:41:15.000 You know, you have to look at it in context.
02:41:17.000 The problem isn't police brutality as so much as it is The disenfranchised, angry, you know, a lot of them impoverished, unemployed individuals who are being heavily propagandized.
02:41:33.000 Well, that has a lot less to do with police brutality overall than it does a political agenda.
02:41:39.000 So we have to address that first and foremost.
02:41:43.000 Yes, absolutely.
02:41:44.000 Let's go to Stephen in Florida.
02:41:46.000 Stephen, you have a question for Mr. Rush.
02:41:49.000 Yeah, good afternoon.
02:41:50.000 Yeah, I actually have three.
02:41:52.000 First of all, I was wondering, Mr. Rush, if you've seen the documentary that I was carrying and interviewed the author of that.
02:41:59.000 It's a DVD called Dreams from My Real Father about Obama.
02:42:04.000 Also, why do you think it is that blacks in America are so willing to keep themselves on the globalist plantation when they can clearly get off of it?
02:42:14.000 And the third thing is, I have a friend, and the way he responds to Obama, and I'm wondering if you disagree with this from what you know of him, he says he's a teleprompter reading CIA sock puppet.
02:42:26.000 And that's my question.
02:42:28.000 Um, okay.
02:42:31.000 Now, who is it that they said was a CIA sock puppet?
02:42:37.000 Obama.
02:42:38.000 My friend refers to him as a teleprompter reading CIA sock puppet.
02:42:43.000 Okay, well, let me address them in order.
02:42:46.000 One, no, I have not seen the DVD, I haven't seen the movie, the DVD, Dreams from My Real Father, although I'm familiar with the content.
02:42:55.000 Why do blacks stay on the On the plantation, because it's what you go with what you know.
02:43:04.000 I mean, we grew up being told Hitler was an evil guy.
02:43:08.000 If we had grown up being told Hitler was, you know, the next best thing to Jesus or Buddha, that's probably what we would have thought.
02:43:19.000 You've got blacks who are being told by teachers, the press, agitators, community people, you know, people in their community, the Al Sharpe's of the world, what the deal is and who can save them.
02:43:34.000 And that's, you know, typically, you know, voting Democrat.
02:43:38.000 And that's why they stay there.
02:43:40.000 As far as Obama being a CIA sock puppet, right now he's kind of running the CIA.
02:43:47.000 So I'm not quite sure how that would play out.
02:43:50.000 I know that there were a lot of shadowy figures and parties, governments, organizations that played a part in his ascendancy.
02:44:01.000 As far as who's pulling his strings now, you know, any number of people.
02:44:08.000 But, you know, I mean, sort of him being a CIA sock puppet, in my view, is putting the card before the horse right at this moment.
02:44:16.000 I want to get Paul Joseph Watson in with a comment, but I would say, going back to looking at some of this stuff, I look at the Indian Reservation System, where you talked about, have you grown up thinking that Adolf Hitler was a great guy?
02:44:28.000 Then you would believe that.
02:44:30.000 I think that when I look at the Washington Plantation System that we have now, and that's really what it is, is a plantation system.
02:44:36.000 It's really oppression masquerading as paternalism.
02:44:40.000 We're here to protect you, but it's really the way that they oppress people.
02:44:44.000 We see that now in the Indian reservations, of course.
02:44:47.000 That was originally not set up with the motivation that they were going to protect anybody except the white people from the Indians.
02:44:54.000 They were going to contain them on those reservations.
02:44:56.000 The way they pacified them...
02:44:58.000 Was to separate the children from the families, to send them across the country to their own schools to re-educate them.
02:45:06.000 That was the intent.
02:45:08.000 Then they put them on these Indian reservations where they don't allow them to have any true economic opportunity.
02:45:13.000 And you know what?
02:45:14.000 We allowed that Indian reservation system to perpetuate, to continue, and now they're using that same strategy.
02:45:22.000 Then they use it on the black community.
02:45:24.000 Essentially not, you know, keeping them on a reservation where they didn't have the kind of freedom.
02:45:28.000 Now they're extending that to everybody.
02:45:31.000 We are now all going to be slaves on the Washington plantation.
02:45:34.000 We need to get over this way where they pit us against each other because we're white, black or red.
02:45:39.000 We need to understand this is a Washington plantation system.
02:45:43.000 It is simply oppression masquerading as paternalism trying to make us dependent on the central government in every way that they can.
02:45:53.000 Paul, did you want to comment on that?
02:45:54.000 I'm sorry, go ahead, Mr. Rush.
02:45:55.000 You comment first and we'll get past him.
02:45:56.000 I was going to answer just real short.
02:45:59.000 Toward the end of the book, I said, you know, when I talk to black people who start realizing this and they get angry, I tell them, hey, don't take it personally, you know.
02:46:09.000 They're planning to enslave all of us.
02:46:11.000 Oh yeah, yeah.
02:46:12.000 They're equal opportunity, aren't they?
02:46:15.000 Paul, do you want to comment on that?
02:46:17.000 Yeah, I just thought about Culture and the role models that emerge out of culture.
02:46:22.000 We were talking about the Cosby Show earlier.
02:46:24.000 You know, I grew up watching things like the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, which, you know, they were silly, but generally a general positive portrayal of black people, of hard-working black families.
02:46:35.000 Now, all we seem to have emerging out of black culture is hip-hop stars, you know, whose lyrics are laden with genuine misogyny, not that the feminists really care about it to a great extent, and this kind of idea that anybody can emerge out of their situation and just become a global multimillionaire superstar rapper, when the reality is obviously quite different.
02:46:57.000 There doesn't seem to be that many Realistic, strong, black role models emerging out of culture that would guide black people, young black people growing up into becoming more, you know, self-empowered.
02:47:11.000 So, I mean, Eric, what's your take on that in terms of hip-hop culture and how that's emerged and grown over the last two decades or so?
02:47:18.000 At least that was a healthy thing, wasn't it, from the Cosby Show?
02:47:20.000 At least they had doctors and lawyers as role models as opposed to rappers and gang members.
02:47:25.000 Mr. Rush?
02:47:26.000 Yeah, precisely, and I could go on about that all day long.
02:47:31.000 I think it's definitely by design promoting this sort of lowest common denominator amongst blacks, and of course it's aimed primarily at the youth.
02:47:43.000 Whereby you have this anti-socialism, disrespect for authority, misogyny, promiscuity, you know, every sort of, you know, low caliber value that you can name yet.
02:47:58.000 If you bring that up in the same way that you bring up trying to get blacks off of the dependency plantation, they will label you a racist.
02:48:10.000 They will say, you're trying to deprive black Americans of their culture.
02:48:15.000 Now, wait a minute.
02:48:17.000 What's their culture?
02:48:18.000 You're telling blacks that they're supposed to be these, you know, chain-snatching, you know, just baby-mama-making, you know, thieving, crack-smoking, cock-shooting, you know, basically, you know, scum?
02:48:35.000 You're telling them how to self-identify.
02:48:39.000 It's very deliberate.
02:48:40.000 They're very well aware and self-conscious of the subliminal messages that they're sending people.
02:48:45.000 They're very well aware of that.
02:48:47.000 Thank you, Stephen.
02:48:47.000 Let's go to Fred in Pennsylvania.
02:48:49.000 Fred?
02:48:52.000 Yes, I called up wanting to disagree with Paul.
02:48:57.000 First of all, I'm a big supporter of Alex and the host, and I find the author very interesting.
02:49:06.000 But I want to say that the incident with Jeremiah Wright, with Reverend Wright, has been completely taken out of context.
02:49:14.000 I actually saw the entire, well, a good portion of that sermon before his statement of goddamn America, and he was really saying, God bless America if America does right by God, And goddamn America, if America does wrong by God, the same message that conservative Protestant ministers have been making for hundreds of years.
02:49:42.000 So really, Obama is more complex a person than the figure that some people have been saying.
02:49:49.000 Do you want to respond to that, Paul?
02:49:51.000 Go ahead.
02:49:52.000 Yeah, I would argue that it's not just drawn from one sermon.
02:49:56.000 It's rooted in the mindset that people like Jeremiah Wright are invested in.
02:50:00.000 People like Bill Ayers that Obama was heavily influenced by and mentored by when he was growing up, which is this idea which we talked about before that America's founding was based on rapacious principles about stealing land from Mexicans.
02:50:14.000 It was based on racist principles about genocide against Native Americans.
02:50:19.000 Which again, if you read Dinesh D'Souza's America, Imagine a World Without Her, he completely demolishes that case historically.
02:50:26.000 So that's the point I make about how Obama's worldview is influenced by these kind of people.
02:50:32.000 Yeah, there's a larger context even than just that one particular speech.
02:50:36.000 Would you like to address that, Mr. Rush?
02:50:39.000 Uh, you know, I would just disagree with it on the same basis.
02:50:44.000 I mean, there was a great deal more.
02:50:47.000 I mean, I've probably forgotten more about Jeremiah Wright and his sermons than most people are likely to.
02:50:55.000 All right, we've got to go to break.
02:50:55.000 We'll be right back with Eric Rush.
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02:54:06.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
02:54:19.000 I'm David Knight in Austin.
02:54:20.000 We have Paul Joseph Watson with us in the UK, and on the line we have Eric Rush, author of Negrophilia, From Slave Block to Pedestal.
02:54:28.000 And we've been taking your calls.
02:54:29.000 We've got the phone lines basically full here.
02:54:32.000 We're going to try to go quickly, if possible, and try to get through everybody that's been on hold.
02:54:36.000 Let's go to John in Ohio.
02:54:38.000 John, you have a question for Mr. Rush.
02:54:41.000 Yes, I don't agree with much of what's been said, but I think some of the truth came out by a caller who pointed out that Obama is a CIA asset, going back since the time that he was brought as a toddler with his top CIA parents.
02:54:57.000 To help oversee and participate in the genocidal anti-communist coup that the CIA perpetrated that killed over a million people with the rivers running red with blood.
02:55:12.000 That coup that his parents, and he was present in, It was totally based on anti-communism, it was totally based on anti-leftism, and I wonder why we don't get some of the leftist critiques of Obama as a right-winger, because he was brought up.
02:55:31.000 They'll use any kind of justification to do whatever they want to.
02:55:34.000 If it's in their interest to pose as right-wingers, they'll do that.
02:55:37.000 If it's in their interest to pose as left-wingers, they'll do that.
02:55:40.000 Any comments, Mr. Rush?
02:55:43.000 Well, I'm somewhat curious as to which genocide the caller is referring to.
02:55:50.000 Are you talking about Indonesia when you're talking about the rivers running red with blood?
02:55:54.000 I'm talking about the fact that the Central Intelligence Agency overthrew a popular Suharto government to overthrow and kill the very popular millions of communists and their families and their supporters.
02:56:06.000 And after that, Zbigniew Brzezinski tutored Obama at Columbia and has been his advisor ever since.
02:56:14.000 And he is the most ultra-right, anti-communist, anti-Russia strategist at the country.
02:56:20.000 So I believe this whole canard that somehow has been perpetrated that Obama is a leftist or a communist is a deliberate disinformation.
02:56:30.000 Why don't we have people on the leftist black agenda report to criticize Obama as being nothing but a black face of Bush and Cheney.
02:56:41.000 I agree.
02:56:42.000 They'll use any kind of mask as possible.
02:56:45.000 And of course we see it's interesting.
02:56:47.000 I find it interesting that the Obama administration is blocking this report on the CIA torture that's there before the Senate.
02:56:55.000 And of course Mark Udall, who is not going to be coming back, has threatened that he will read it on the floor of the Senate.
02:57:02.000 I wish he would read the unredacted torture report on the floor of the Senate.
02:57:06.000 Let's move on.
02:57:07.000 I want to get to some of the other callers.
02:57:08.000 Sue in Florida.
02:57:09.000 Go ahead, Sue.
02:57:11.000 Hi, can you hear me over the speakerphone?
02:57:12.000 Yes.
02:57:12.000 Go ahead.
02:57:13.000 Great.
02:57:14.000 The governor of Missouri has a 16-person commission that he just formed with blacks, whites, younger, older, a policeman, young black activists.
02:57:25.000 And is that a step in the right direction?
02:57:27.000 What are things that blacks and whites can do to help set some things right where they need to be right?
02:57:33.000 And just in general, what is your advice to whites who really care about these issues?
02:57:37.000 But if you're being called Uncle Tom and such things, what can we say or do to make a difference?
02:57:42.000 Go ahead, Ms.
02:57:42.000 Rush.
02:57:43.000 Well, I think that, as I said in the book, you know, we're going to have to sort of show a little bit of spine and collectively or individually decide that, you know, if somebody calls me some names, that's, you know, that, you know, the civil rights marchers had to put up with a whole hell of a lot more than just being called, you know, names.
02:58:05.000 I get called names all the time.
02:58:06.000 A lot of the, you know, the people who are in the same I mean, that's what we get.
02:58:13.000 We have to look at it in terms of that this is what they are using in order to divide us.
02:58:20.000 But if we look beyond that and start standing together and going to the heart of the matter, which is, you know, getting these people who have these agendas out of our damn government.
02:58:31.000 I mean, that's the problem.
02:58:32.000 Whether you're talking about globalists or Islamists or whatever is T1.
02:58:37.000 I gotta cut you off there, Mr. Rush.
02:58:39.000 Thank you so much for joining us.
02:58:40.000 Eric Rush, author of Negrophilia and Real Racism Gets a Pass When They Misuse It.
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02:59:58.000 You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.
03:00:01.000 Big Brother.
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