On this episode of the Alex Jones Show, host Alex Jones is joined by Paul Craig Roberts and Eric Rush to discuss the verdict in the case of Darren Wilson, the white police officer who shot and killed a black teenager in Ferguson, Missouri on August 9th, 2014.
00:00:36.000I'm David Knight, your host live here in Austin on this Friday, November 21st, 2014.
00:00:43.000Paul Joseph Watson is going to be co-hosting with me from the UK.
00:00:46.000We've got some interesting guests today.
00:00:48.000We've got Paul Craig Roberts, who's going to be talking to us about some international issues and the economy.
00:00:53.000And we have a guest, Eric Rush, author of the book, Negrophilia, From Slave Block to Pedestal.
00:01:00.000That's an important thing to look at right now as we're waiting for this verdict in Ferguson.
00:01:04.000One of the articles that we have on InfoWars right now, rioters to target whites, quote, you will never be safe, not you, not your children.
00:01:37.000We're going to have a quote from Frank Serpico.
00:01:40.000I'm sure many of you, pretty much all of you, know him from the movie Serpico, but he spoke out and said that essentially We've moved from the biggest problem being corruption when he was in New York, essentially a corruption that came on by the war on drugs, that kind of prohibition always corrupts the police.
00:01:59.000But he says we've moved on from that, and now the issue really is this out-of-control, unchecked police violence.
00:02:06.000But of course, they were able to take what could have been a thoughtful look at the situation, something that both Uh, sides could come together on, uh, white and black could take a look at this and, uh, see that although this is something that is affecting black people more than it is white people, it is affecting everybody now.
00:02:26.000They just had in the Albuquerque Police Department a memo, a course that's being put out on kill-ology.
00:02:34.000We see them talking about Puppyside because they're killing so many dogs.
00:02:37.000They're killing everyone and all they have to do is say, I feel that I was threatened and they're given a pass.
00:02:45.000We could have a real discussion about how we get control of our government, get control of the police, but instead They turned it into a racial paradigm.
00:03:17.000This is going to basically further entrench this kind of war mentality when they're threatening the police, saying, we're going to come to your house.
00:08:32.000I'm David Knight in Austin, joined by Paul Joseph Watson in the UK.
00:08:37.000Of course, last night was the amnesty speech that Obama gave, giving people permission to stay.
00:08:43.000Not necessarily making them citizens, but basically giving them the right to stay as long as they wish.
00:08:48.000And we've seen how this works out in many cases.
00:08:50.000We've had A measure in Illinois to allow people who aren't citizens to vote.
00:08:57.000We know that with the deferred action that was done for children, the DACA program, he allowed people up to the age of 31 to stay.
00:09:05.000And not only that, but to get free education benefits, to go to universities with an in-state tuition, in many cases a full ride.
00:09:15.000I mean, we're the ones who are paying for this.
00:09:17.000I look at one of the immigration groups.
00:09:20.000Casa, they say, was a major immigrant rights group that was based in Maryland and Virginia.
00:09:25.000They were planning three screening parties last night to watch this announcement.
00:09:30.000When I looked at that, Casa, you know, it's like mi casa, su casa, you know, my house is your house, except it's the other way around, isn't it?
00:09:38.000They're essentially saying to the American people, su casa, mi casa.
00:09:44.000I'm coming to live with you, and there's nothing you're going to do about it.
00:09:48.000And that's essentially what Obama has done for them.
00:09:51.000Paul, they're saying that it's 11 million people that they believe are possibly here illegally at this point, and they're only going to extend Legal status to half of those people.
00:10:15.000I mean, they always underplay the numbers that are most embarrassing to them.
00:10:18.000They underplay the jobs numbers on a routine basis, so who knows how many illegals are here.
00:10:23.000But as you said, they had the screening parties, the celebrations in the Mexican restaurants, and what they're all saying, the message is, This is only the beginning.
00:10:45.000We saw this back when Reagan did it in 1986, and that was going to be just allow the people who are already here to stay.
00:10:52.000They've got ties here, so just grant them the ability to stay.
00:10:56.000We'll fix the border here, we won't have any more illegal immigration, yet it's continued to rise and unabated, actually accelerating.
00:11:04.000If you incentivize people coming here, and that's what Obama did with DACA, that's what he's doing with this announcement, you're going to get more of that.
00:11:39.000But David, I mean, that revolution is not going to be led by the Republican leadership, because we know already they've come out with their lukewarm response against it, as we predicted yesterday.
00:11:51.000And it's encapsulated in a Washington Post article which talks about how Boehner and McConnell are more concerned over the party's brand than anything else.
00:12:02.000They're concerned about having a stable period of GOP governance.
00:12:08.000And this is summed up in a quote by Peter King out of New York Republican.
00:12:13.000Particularly illustrative of the rhino Republican rhetoric that we're seeing.
00:12:17.000He said it's the first real challenge for Boehner and McConnell together.
00:12:21.000They'd like to wipe the slate clean for when they start up next year with this situation behind us.
00:12:26.000And what he's talking about is eliminating the quote insurgent Tea Party Republicans Shunning them to the side, restricting their influence on the party and dropping any opposition to Obama's executive amnesty.
00:12:42.000So the leadership of the Republican Party across the board will do absolutely nothing to stop this train wreck and to reverse what Obama has wrought on the country over the past six years.
00:14:13.000This is a good analysis, Paul, that I saw on the Powerline blog.
00:14:17.000Basically, you got into some of the details of it.
00:14:19.000The Simpson-Mazzoli Act, the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, required Reagan, the president, to adjust the status of certain illegal immigrants to the category of, quote, alien lawfully admitted for temporary residence.
00:14:34.000It also authorized the Attorney General to allow other illegal immigrants who did not qualify for amnesty to remain in the U.S.
00:14:40.000if they needed to, quote, assure family unity.
00:14:43.000So the small number of people that was adjusted by Reagan later on was in compliance with that.
00:14:49.000And he said they even quoted it in their article, in their order, rather.
00:14:54.000They said the administration made it clear it was carrying out the direction of Congress.
00:14:57.000It even cited the section of law from the Simpson-Mazzoli Act that provided this direction.
00:15:05.000The bottom line is, is that he was not acting against the will of the people.
00:15:11.000They were essentially implementing the law that was there.
00:15:15.000I mean, Pelosi came out before Obama's speech and said, basically, along with other establishment Democrats, look, Obama's only doing what Reagan did in 86, but Reagan didn't sign an executive order.
00:15:31.000Even if you disagreed with it, it was constitutional.
00:15:34.000What Obama's doing, as Senator Sessions said, is Becoming America's first emperor and going back on his own words from as recently as last year.
00:15:44.000In fact, Sessions quotes Obama in his article today, quote, I know some people want me to bypass Congress.
00:15:55.000That's not how our democracy functions.
00:15:57.000That's not how our constitution is written.
00:16:00.000The problem is that I'm the President of the United States.
00:16:02.000I'm not the Emperor of the United States.
00:16:05.000My job is to execute laws that are passed.
00:16:08.000So that was Obama last year responding to pressure from immigration activists and the foundations lobby groups that support them to pass executive action on immigration.
00:16:20.000He basically said I can't do that because it would violate the Constitution and make me an Emperor.
00:16:27.000So in his own words and with his own actions yesterday and today, Obama is admitting that he is now officially Caesar.
00:16:35.000He's the Emperor and this is just the beginning as we talked about yesterday.
00:16:39.000We've got more coming down the pipeline.
00:16:41.000We've got Global warming executive orders which could completely eviscerate the US economy.
00:16:47.000Talking about ridiculous reductions in carbon tax first to 2005 levels.
00:16:53.000Eventually they want an 80% reduction in carbon tax and then a 100% reduction in carbon tax.
00:16:59.000So I guess You know, human beings aren't going to be able to exhale for very much longer if they get their full agenda through, but this is only the beginning.
00:17:09.000If this precedent is set, as Buchanan said, it's going to grease the skids for something that could reverberate for the next several administrations and get worse and worse.
00:17:20.000It fundamentally changes the structure of government.
00:17:24.000It essentially does make him a dictator.
00:17:25.000If he says, I gave this agenda to Congress, they didn't act on it, so I'm just going to ignore them and go over their heads.
00:17:31.000As you were pointing out, he's mentioned this several times, Rand Paul pointed that out in his speech yesterday.
00:17:37.000He said, the president has said 22 times previously that he does not have the power to legislate on immigration.
00:17:45.000You know, when you speak this with an executive order, when you dictate it, in other words, a dictator is somebody, the law comes out of their mouth.
00:18:04.000I don't think that it's going to be possible to secure the border as long as you incentivize illegal immigration in the way that Obama has with DACA, with this newest order, whatever they decide to call it.
00:18:17.000But there's been many, many cases already where he should have been impeached for criminal action.
00:18:24.000And to allow them to have a pass for this long and to do nothing about it, we know that the Republicans don't want to do anything about it because, A, their corporate sponsors want this to happen, and B, they want the power when they become president.
00:18:39.000So they're going to set by and allow this to become even more concentrated into the hands of one man and let the entire elected Congress become this useless vestige of power that's just sitting there.
00:18:52.000And the fact is, if you go and look at Dennis Kucinich's articles of impeachment against George W. Bush from back in, I think it was 2007, 2008, Obama, and this was a couple of years ago now, Obama has already fulfilled 27 out of the 35 articles of impeachment that were leveled against Bush, and he's probably added a few more to that tally since that was emphasized a couple of years ago.
00:19:19.000Now you can add this to it, but as he said, it's very, very unlikely to happen because The Republican establishment is in league with the Democratic leadership.
00:19:28.000They're completely disinterested in standing up to this Obama-Caesar precedent ruled by Dictat, just as the Democrat leadership failed to punish Bush for his Unconstitutional activities in regards to illegal war and torture back in 2006 after the 2006 midterms.
00:19:49.000So they refuse to roll back the damage that Obama has done because as he said, their only concern is remaining in power.
00:19:57.000They don't care about fixing the country.
00:19:59.000Absolutely, we gotta go to break Paul, we'll be right back.
00:20:03.000Hang on right there, we'll be right back with Paul Joseph Watson from the UK.
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00:24:33.000I'm David Knight on this Friday, November 21st, 2014, the day after Obama has just told 5 million people what they say that they can stay.
00:24:42.000Of course, we don't really know how many people that is.
00:24:45.000They're not really keeping information on people as they come across our open borders.
00:24:50.000What he's done is he's created an entitlement program and he's created, he's incentivized one more time in one more way illegal immigration.
00:25:00.000Now, Paul, we just had yesterday, as this was being done, we see just the opposite happening in Mexico.
00:25:06.000They announced that they're going to start charging Americans crossing the border $28 if they're going to come in in a new pilot program. - Yeah.
00:25:15.000We, however, extend free health care, free education, a get-out-of-jail card for free.
00:25:23.000Has there ever been a country that has done this?
00:25:26.000Every other country requires, if you immigrate to that country, that you not only have to already have a means of support, already have an income, savings, that sort of thing, to show that you can support yourself and your family.
00:25:38.000I mean, that's Mexico, it's Belize, it's any country that you want to immigrate to, isn't it?
00:25:43.000Well, precisely, unless they're following the European Socialist model, which they are.
00:25:49.000You have to understand the thinking that drives Obama and the people behind him.
00:25:53.000And again, it would take hours to explain, but it's best summed up in Dinesh D'Souza's America, Imagine a World Without Her.
00:26:00.000Basically, it sounds like a cliche, but it boils down to the fact that they hate America.
00:26:06.000They think it should be completely transformed, as you were making the point yesterday.
00:26:11.000Because Obama's mentors are people like Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers, the domestic weather underground terrorist, who by the way, they invented the term white privilege.
00:26:20.000So they were the original race baiters, and they were a big influence on Obama.
00:26:26.000So it's based on this liberation theology, this idea that The land that is now America was stolen from Mexico during the war, which of course, during that time, all across the world, all territorial wars were fought over.
00:26:48.000That's not a positive or a negative thing, that's a neutral, that's just the way that the world worked at that time.
00:26:53.000But this racist, extremist ideology that the land was stolen from Mexicans has been inoculated in that culture which the big foundations, the lobby groups have seized upon.
00:27:05.000This is the whole ideology that drives Obama, that drives the people behind him, which is why Nancy Pelosi likened it to the Emancipation Proclamation, right?
00:27:16.000Because they think that the Mexicans in America, the illegals, are basically refugees, are slaves, because they should be in Mexico because the land was stolen from us, from Univision.
00:27:45.000Three of them, Texas was just one of them, established governments.
00:27:48.000He was able to put down the revolution everywhere except in Texas, and it wasn't just Americans, people coming in from, English-speaking people coming in from America.
00:27:58.000It was people who were Mexican, who were Hispanic, Latino, who were living in the area as well that revolted against that tyranny.
00:28:06.000That should be the lesson for them, not that it's some kind of Latins versus English people.
00:28:12.000I think it's interesting, too, to look at this situation that we had a report on yesterday.
00:28:40.000There's a lot of baggage attached to that.
00:28:43.000I mean, the creators and the business owners are leaving America in droves, the middle class.
00:28:48.000There's a flight away from America, because they're the very people being punished under this transformative system that Obama is bringing in.
00:28:56.000And in fact, some of these illegals that are now going to be, you know, semi-legal, They're going to get EITC payments because they're going to be enrolled in the tax system.
00:29:05.000They're not going to pay a lot of tax, but they're going to get a lot of benefits out of this EITC system.
00:29:10.000And that's being paid for by American taxpayers.
00:29:13.000So your dollars are going directly to these illegal immigrants as a result of this Obama program.
00:29:18.000Well, the biggest area of taxation for most people, whether they realize it or not, are the local taxes that pay for the schools.
00:29:25.000And of course, everyone, K-12, is going to be getting a free ride if they're living in this area.
00:29:30.000They're also going to get free medical care, whether or not it's part of Obama, because that's part of the law.
00:29:34.000If you go to an emergency room, they have to treat you.
00:29:38.000So, that's going to be something that is on our nickel.
00:29:41.000As I said before, it's really su casa mi casa.
00:29:44.000Your house becomes my house, whether you like it or not.
00:29:48.000But I think it's kind of in reverse with what's going on with the London Mayor.
00:29:51.000He's not even here, but they're coming after him for taxes.
00:29:53.000They're essentially getting a free ride.
00:29:54.000We'll be right back with Paul Joseph Watson.
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00:33:34.000I'm David Knight in Austin, joined with Paul Joseph Watson in the UK.
00:33:38.000We have Paul Craig Roberts coming up in the second hour.
00:33:40.000He's going to talk about the revival of the Cold War, as well as economic issues.
00:33:45.000Of course, he was in the Reagan administration, a key economist there in the Treasury Department for Ronald Reagan.
00:33:51.000We're also going to have Eric Rush, who wrote the book, Negrophilia, From Slave Block to Pedestal, because what is coming up in Ferguson is a complete Takeover of what really should have been talked about not just because of that single shooting There's so much anger and unrest there because that is not an isolated incident There's a pattern of behavior an epidemic of police violence throughout this country not just in Ferguson Certainly race plays a part of it.
00:34:21.000It is a component, but they have made it solely about race And so we're going to talk to him about that talk to him about we'll also be talking with Paul Joseph Watson about why we can't have real genuine police reform.
00:34:34.000We're also going to have Joe Biggs and Jakari Jackson joining us from Ferguson.
00:35:46.000Well, Paul, today we've got the verdict coming out of Ferguson, most people believe, with the grand jury that's going to deliver their verdict.
00:35:59.000Everybody expects that Darren Wilson is going to walk.
00:36:02.000He has made it known that he is willing to resign, I guess, as kind of a peace offering.
00:36:09.000We're going to be going to Ja'Kari Jackson and Joe Biggs and Ferguson later in the show.
00:36:15.000But what's your take on this from looking at it from a distance?
00:36:20.000Well, I put a video out a couple of days ago, the truth about the Michael Brown shooting.
00:36:26.000And you have to bear in mind, I mean, I would preface this by saying, I've written numerous articles about police brutality directed against black people.
00:36:36.000Recently, there was the case in New York where the guy was choked to death by a police officer for the crime of selling cigarettes on the street.
00:36:52.000Even though it was a clear-cut case of police brutality and, in my mind, at least manslaughter.
00:37:00.000And the evidence is there for everybody to see on tape.
00:37:03.000With this Michael Brown situation, it's a lot more ambiguous, which is what we find time and time again.
00:37:09.000The race baiters, the Al Sharptons of the world, they always jump on the ambiguous cases, the Trayvon Martins, the Michael Browns, and immediately decide on the guilt of whoever they want to demonize is involved before any evidence has come in.
00:37:27.000The problem with this Michael Brown situation, again, there's a police problem in Ferguson.
00:37:32.000There's a genuine problem with police brutality in Ferguson.
00:37:36.000There's a massive problem with police brutality across America.
00:37:40.000Nobody's denying that and nobody's championed fixing that problem as much as we have.
00:37:46.000But if you look at the actual Evidence in the Michael Brown case, at best it's ambiguous and at worst if you look at the autopsy, the ballistics evidence and what the eyewitnesses said, which we can get on to in a moment, it backs up Officer Wilson's case and that's the problem.
00:38:04.000The black leaders that have jumped on board the race bait as the Al Sharpton's, you know, the FBI, former FBI informant and his ilk.
00:38:12.000Have refused to take into account any of this evidence because it doesn't fit the narrative that they're trying to advance, which again is based around race-baiting, which we've explained on many occasions, benefits nobody whatsoever.
00:38:44.000You know, whenever something like this happens and they've got a crisis, they always try to use it to the maximum, whether it's for gun control or whether it's to try to stoke a race war.
00:38:53.000And when I look at the way this thing was handled, that's my big concern about it, is that that was really, I think that was part of the agenda.
00:39:01.000I think they deliberately let this thing run for a very long time before they gave any evidence that would clear the officer.
00:39:07.000But I want to get your reaction to this, Paul.
00:39:10.000It just came out of the Albuquerque Police Department, and of course, Albuquerque is famous for being the place that has the highest number of shootings per capita, many, many times more than, let's say, New York City, for example.
00:39:22.000So much so that for several years, they've been under the scrutiny of the Department of Justice, supposedly trying to get them to stop, although we know that this kind of mentality is coming out of Washington.
00:39:35.000Now we see, just as they announced, I think it was just like nine days earlier, They announced an agreement with the Department of Justice that they were going to change their approach, their mentality towards the public.
00:39:47.000And of course, not only are their statistics out of control, but I think the one incident that really galvanized this with everybody was the shooting of that homeless man up on the hill.
00:39:57.000That was what was recorded on their police cameras and everybody saw them shoot this unarmed man at a distance, kill him at a distance where he could not ...effectively harm them in any way, shape, or form.
00:40:59.000That's the thing that's underlying this epidemic of police violence.
00:41:03.000So you can see on the monitor, that's the shooting in the Albuquerque Hills of that homeless man who was camping out.
00:41:09.000They killed him because he was camping out and wouldn't follow their orders evidently and perhaps there's some mental issues there but he certainly was not a threat to them.
00:41:18.000If you or I have a gun and we have it for our self-defense and we shoot somebody who is not an immediate threat to us, that is called murder.
00:41:34.000Now, of course, the Department of Justice says we need to shift away from this mentality of viewing all citizens as enemy combatants of some sort.
00:41:42.000And yet they're the ones, the very ones, who are pushing this sort of thing.
00:41:45.000And that's what is being stoked on the other side of this as the demonstrators are threatening the police in the streets, saying, we're going to come to your house, we're going to shoot your kids.
00:41:55.000I see this whole thing moving into a race war, moving into a violent conflict, and stoking this whole mentality that's being sold by the central government that this is a war zone.
00:42:09.000Yeah, and it goes back to the point I just made.
00:42:12.000The media and the establishment, the black leadership groups that completely sell out black people every chance they get, they only jump on the ambiguous cases when you've got The homeless guy being shot and the officer beforehand that came out on tape saying I'm gonna shoot him in the penis deliberately went out to kill him.
00:42:29.000Of course we have the Kelly Thomas brutal beating which ended in his death.
00:42:34.000The war against homeless people, that gets basically zero attention.
00:42:38.000There were people back in May storming the council meetings in Albuquerque trying to arrest the chief of police over this police brutality.
00:42:47.000They've had 40 shootings since 2010, 25 of which were fatalities.
00:42:54.000They stormed the council meetings on numerous occasions.
00:42:57.000And again, it was only in local media.
00:42:59.000That was a huge story with the killing of the homeless man and the repercussions afterwards.
00:43:04.000But it never went outside local Albuquerque media.
00:43:08.000There may be sporadic mentions, but nothing like Yes.
00:43:11.000Ferguson, nothing like Trayvon Martin.
00:43:13.000And even in cases, as I said, where black people are targeted and killed by police, if it can't be made into a race-baiting issue, if it can't be hijacked by the likes of Al Sharpton and Obama, if it's ambiguous, which it is in the Brown and Trayvon Martin cases, they're not interested in it.
00:43:33.000When you said that, they seize on the ambiguous cases, they elevate those, they try to highlight the ambiguity, they try to highlight what might exonerate somebody early on.
00:43:43.000They are deliberately stoking this thing, but we really do need to have a discussion, and of course we're not getting that discussion, on what do we do about the police.
00:43:51.000There's another article here, this is Buffalo, New York.
00:43:55.000They're talking about one police department, a small police department in Buffalo has shot 92 dogs in three years.
00:44:01.000One of the officers has killed about a third of those, 25 of them by himself.
00:44:11.000It's not that dogs are more important than human lives, because we know that people are getting shot down on the streets all the time as well.
00:44:18.000But this tells you about the mentality.
00:44:21.000It also tells you about what's driving this, of course, because in many of these cases, it's a situation where they have a SWAT team with a no-knock raid.
00:44:30.000And of course, Dogs are going to bark when somebody comes to your door.
00:44:40.000We've had videos that have surfaced in recent weeks of a small dog that was running away and being shot by the police as it was running away.
00:44:49.000We've got another video of the police calling a dog over to them and shooting it.
00:44:53.000They put these videos up, and Paul, when I look at this, it reminds me that one of the characteristics of serial killers is that they are cruel to animals at a very young age.
00:45:04.000It's a lack of empathy, and that's the dangerous thing.
00:45:08.000When they can look at a dog that is no threat to them, brag about the fact that they're killing these animals, that shows that they don't have any empathy for any living things, and of course we see them doing this over and over again to the general public, as we've been talking about so many years here at InfoWars, and yet There is nothing that's being done about that because they always move it into some kind of a, like you said, they choose the ambiguous situation and move it into a race war.
00:45:34.000It's the fact they're being trained to immediately escalate situations and immediately resort to violent force without adequately surveying the severity of the situation.
00:45:45.000That seems to happen in every single case.
00:45:48.000And that must come from their training.
00:45:50.000There are good cops out there that need to speak out against this.
00:45:53.000But with the Ferguson situation, I mean, I've made the point that these violent protests by the agitators that have hijacked the initial protests They only serve to delegitimize opposition to police brutality, which is a genuine problem.
00:46:10.000So now you've got the entirety of the conservative media basically in America pouring scorn on all of these Ferguson activists and demonstrators Yeah, the problem of police brutality is very real, but in that circumstance, it's being delegitimized when these people loot and become violent, because the conservative media analyzes the evidence in the Brown case, which clearly shows that, I mean, look at the autopsy results.
00:46:38.000He did struggle with the officer in the car, and he did try to grab his gun, all the evidence suggests.
00:46:44.000Six black witnesses said that he charged Wilson afterwards, and that's when he shot him again.
00:46:49.000The evidence shows that his hands were not up when the final shots were fired, they were down by his side.
00:46:56.000So again, that whole narrative, hands up, don't shoot, comes completely undone by the actual autopsy evidence.
00:47:03.000And you've got forensic pathologists like Judy Melinek asserting that There's no evidence that he attempted to surrender when Wilson shot him in the street again.
00:47:12.000So when the conservative media looks at that and sees that there's not actually a huge case against Officer Wilson, which is why he will probably be acquitted on the evidence, they then look at it and see
00:47:26.000They make the judgment that these black people, these people in Ferguson, are just rioting for the sake of it and looting for the sake of it, overlooking a genuine police problem in Ferguson and dismissing and diminishing the legitimacy of the police brutality problem that has swept America over the last 10-15 years, which is documented by the likes of the ACLU, you know, the increasing Use of SWAT teams, raiding houses, throwing flashbangs in babies' cribs.
00:47:57.000Conservative media sees this evidence and then they use it to dismiss the general issue of police brutality.
00:48:05.000So, I mean, that's why I say that it delegitimises opposition to police brutality.
00:48:11.000When you actually base a whole movement and that movement becomes violent on a case like the Michael Brown shooting, which if you actually study the evidence, Officer Wilson will be acquitted for it based on that evidence, not because he's white, but because the evidence suggests that his story, his account is true.
00:48:31.000You've got the agent provocateurs that are there doing their job.
00:48:34.000You've got the government, which could have released this information that would clear Officer Wilson.
00:48:40.000But, you know, I think, as you pointed out, this is something that they are really using to essentially stoke the race war, to stoke the tension between the police and the public, to drive home the point that the mentality that they've been trying to sell the police for a very long time, combatants in a war, and that the public is the enemy combatant.
00:49:02.000We see that in documents from the federal government constantly.
00:49:05.000We see that in the training that they're giving there to police departments, just as this latest memo surfaces from the Albuquerque Police Department.
00:49:12.000I think it was interesting, Paul, and I wanted to read a couple of comments here that Frank Serpico had, and of course everybody has seen the movie Serpico with Al Pacino.
00:50:01.000That's what's behind so many of these shootings and that's what has been feeding this mentality of a militarized police.
00:50:09.000He said the problem facing people across the country is that the police departments are useless at investigating themselves.
00:50:17.000He says this may be the problem in Ferguson, Missouri, which has been a lightning rod for discontent, even though the circumstances under which an African-American youth, Michael Brown, was shot remain unclear.
00:50:26.000He said most cops today can pull out their weapons and fire without fear that anything will happen to them, even if they shoot someone wrongfully.
00:50:35.000What do you think that does to their psychology as they patrol the streets?
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00:54:25.000I'm David Knight, your host today with Paul Joseph Watson, who's joining us from the UK.
00:54:30.000We were just talking before the break about how unfortunate it is that the system has once more taken what should have been a discussion about the epidemic of police violence and essentially seizing on a situation that they knew the officer would get exonerated.
00:54:48.000Turning that into a situation where they can exploit racial tensions, where they can fuel the fires of suspicion between police officers, the attitude that they are in a war zone, that the public is the enemy combatant, all of those are the things that we expect to see come out of Ferguson, that's what we are seeing coming out of Ferguson, rather than any kind of discussion
00:55:11.000About limiting the rules of engagement, essentially holding the police to the same standards that they hold other people to.
00:55:20.000As Serpico put it, he came up with six points in his article here that's on Politico, and you really need to take a look at this.
00:55:31.000He lays out the problems and he has six solutions, he thinks.
00:55:35.000Now, one of those I thought was interesting was require community involvement from police officers so they know the districts and the individuals they're policing.
00:55:43.000That will encourage empathy and understanding.
00:56:09.000There's no connection there within the community.
00:56:12.000But he also says, of course, enforce the laws against everyone, including police officers.
00:56:16.000And he says, last but not least, police cannot police themselves.
00:56:21.000We need to have permanent, independent boards to review incidents of police corruption and brutality.
00:56:27.000If there was some kind of an independent board, I don't think they would have been able to manipulate this situation in Ferguson to get where it is today, Paul.
00:56:37.000There was a cop who came out the other day, I forgot out of what area, he was making the point that 80% of crime, violent crime in many cities, is black-on-black crime.
00:56:48.000And amidst this race-baiting national debate, that black-on-black violent crime, which is a far bigger problem, gets ignored.
00:56:56.000And then the other problem, as you mentioned, is there seems to be no retribution against the police that engage in this brutality.
00:57:03.000The cop who pepper sprayed Occupy demonstrators, you remember that famous footage?
00:57:08.000I mean he got, I forgot whether it was, I think it was an insurance payout, because his livelihood was harmed by the publicity of that incident.
00:57:19.000I think it was at least $100,000 for pepper spraying two dozen students directly in the face in that horrific famous footage that we all saw.
00:57:28.000So as he said, when there's no retribution against them, they're just as likely to do it even more so.
00:57:34.000It doesn't discourage police brutality, it encourages it.
00:57:38.000Yeah, and you know, I don't see any movement towards trying to get independent boards who are going to oversee what the police are doing.
00:57:45.000Instead, we're going just the opposite, into more of a police state.
00:57:49.000We've got this report out of Pennsylvania, where they're going to allow the police who are in the schools.
00:57:55.000I'm looking at this picture and I see two police officers looking at this little kid being accompanied by her parent, walking her in.
00:58:01.000And it's like, what is wrong with this picture?
00:58:03.000It's like, oh that's right, they didn't have police in the schools when I went to school, number one.
00:58:08.000Number two, listen to what they're going to do.
00:58:10.000Says, the superintendent says, I can't imagine a scenario that would get to a search down to the undergarments.
00:58:17.000Yet they still felt it necessary to give that power to the police in the schools.
00:58:21.000They're going to allow them to strip search the kids, even though they say, well, I can't even understand why we would do that.
00:58:28.000We're not going to do that to search for drugs.
01:00:34.000I'm David Knight in Austin, joined with Paul Joseph Watson in the UK.
01:00:37.000We've been talking about Obama's amnesty, essentially crossing the Rubicon, announcing himself as emperor because, you know, hey, he didn't get what he wanted out of the Congress, so he just decided to do it himself and bypass Congress.
01:00:52.000And so now Congress is this useless appendage if they don't do something about it.
01:01:09.000Representative Mo Brooks, Republican from Alabama, went further.
01:01:13.000That there's a federal statute that punishes anyone who aids or bets, encourages or entices foreigners to unlawfully cross into the United States of America.
01:01:23.000In other words, Obama should face prison.
01:01:25.000There's a lot of people in the Obama administration that should face prison.
01:01:29.000Paul, you mentioned that Dennis Kucinich's went through and had 37 points to impeach George W. Bush, and essentially we've met all those with Obama, and of course if you look back at the articles of impeachment for Nixon, they look in many respects identical to what Obama has done, particularly using the IRS against his political enemies.
01:01:56.000Well, precisely, and the reaction that we predicted Which was that the Republican leadership would do absolutely nothing.
01:02:25.000So the Republicans get this major win, right?
01:02:27.000And so they come back and the only thing that they've done that I'm aware of was they passed the Keystone Pipeline thing for a ninth time, sending it to the Senate.
01:02:37.000They know it's going to be dead on arrival, but they keep doing that.
01:02:40.000They've done it nine times, but they can't even be bothered to do anything about Obama's making himself an emperor.
01:03:06.000And you were mentioning just at the top of the hour there, This federal statute, I actually got an email from somebody who found the original statute which Representative Mo Brooks talked about.
01:03:16.000It's actually imprisonment up to 10 years for anybody caught encouraging, inducing, aiding or abetting an illegal alien.
01:03:26.000For commercial advantage or private financial gain in which the maximum term of imprisonment is 10 years for each alien, that's for each illegal alien they aid.
01:03:35.000He could be in there for about a number of years.
01:03:38.000For a long prison sentence by the looks of it, if the Republican leadership were bothered.
01:03:43.000Yeah, he could be in there for about the half-life of a piece of plutonium.
01:03:47.000You know, talking about Nixon and getting his Nixon on, this is on our website, on InfoWars.
01:03:55.000Email proves that the White House and the Department of Justice targeted reporter Cheryl Atkinson.
01:04:01.000I mean, you talk about having their enemies list, talking about acting exactly like Nixon, using the IRS against their enemies, going after their opponents in the press.
01:04:09.000One of the documents provides smoking gun proof that the Obama White House and Eric Holder's Justice Department colluded to get CBS News to block reporter Cheryl Atkinson.
01:04:20.000She was one of the few reporters who went after Fast and Furious.
01:04:24.000This is an email dated October 4, 2011.
01:04:27.000Attorney General Holder's top press aide, Tracy Schmoller, called Atkinson, quote, out of control.
01:04:34.000Told White House Deputy Press Secretary Eric Schultz that he intended to call CBS News anchor Bob Schieffer to get the network to shut her up.
01:04:43.000I mean, this guy, where do you, it's a target-rich environment, yet they won't do anything except pass the Keystone Pipeline for the ninth time.
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01:08:37.000Could a rapper go to prison for cutting a rap album?
01:08:41.000Now, this is a rapper, Brandon Duncan, also known as Tiny Do.
01:08:46.000They say he's rapped with hip-hop artist Lil Wayne.
01:08:50.000But the bottom line is they're charging him with gang conspiracy.
01:08:54.000Now, listen to the conspiracy theory that the police have come up with.
01:08:59.000They're saying they're using a little-known statute that's been put in place by voters in 2000, allowing the prosecution of gang members if they benefit from crimes committed by other gang members.
01:10:05.000And we go back to what Voltaire said, of course, about Free speech, you know, I may hate what you're saying, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
01:10:14.000If we don't take that attitude, say they pull up these cases, here's somebody that, you know, most people are going to look at this, if you listen to what he's saying, you probably won't like it.
01:10:24.000Especially if he's talking about the gang members that he's in there.
01:10:27.000But if we don't defend that kind of free speech in principle, We lose that.
01:10:32.000Furthermore, we're going to expose ourselves to that kind of liability.
01:10:37.000Just look at what they have been able to do with the RICO statute.
01:10:40.000That was going to essentially give them a free hand to come against the mafia by saying they were involved in racketeering, influencing corruption, and so they had to confiscate their assets first before prosecution began so they could get a conviction.
01:10:55.000In other words, punish people before they're found guilty of something.
01:10:58.000We're seeing that happening everywhere now, not just with the war on drugs.
01:11:02.000We've even seen it in prosecutions of people who were involved in theft.
01:11:07.000They basically confiscated their home, which they were using as leverage to pay for their defense.
01:11:14.000So they confiscated their home, confiscated the money that they had gotten from refinancing their home to pay for their defense, leaving them literally defenseless.
01:11:32.000You remember a couple of years ago, the case of Brandon Raub.
01:11:36.000He made some political statements on his Facebook page, was grabbed and basically treated as a violent criminal, interned in a psychiatric ward for a period of days before he was able to get out, basically for some Facebook comments which were deemed to be threats of violence.
01:11:55.000If you actually read them, it was nothing of the sort within its own context.
01:11:58.000So, they're using that to go after people politically now.
01:12:01.000It's still quite rare, but as you said, if they're allowed to set that precedent, it's chilling for free speech.
01:12:07.000Well, you can see where they're heading with all this stuff, because we've seen over and over again the efforts to try to get control of the Internet.
01:12:15.000The FCC trying to assert its control of the Internet, and they'll do it if that means Supporting net neutrality or if it means taking down net neutrality.
01:12:24.000They've been on both sides of this issue.
01:12:26.000They're back on the side of net neutrality again because that seems to be the side that the public will support.
01:12:32.000But what they're really trying to do is establish a precedent where the FCC has control of the Internet.
01:12:39.000And we've already seen with their moves to take the pulse of various newsrooms that they are very interested in controlling content, not just in allocating frequency.
01:12:49.000There's absolutely no need for the FCC to establish net neutrality.
01:12:55.000Net neutrality is what we've had for about 15 years, or as long as the Internet's been going.
01:13:00.000And they don't need to have them come in to establish that.
01:13:03.000But they're trying to establish their control.
01:13:05.000And they're going to establish their control with these copyright legislations that they haven't been able to get through.
01:13:13.000They're going to do that with the Trans-Pacific, the Trans-Atlantic Partnership trade agreements.
01:13:18.000That's a vital part of those agreements that are being negotiated in secret without our elected representatives even being able to see that.
01:13:29.000Again, Obama couldn't get his legislative agenda through with amnesty, so he just declares it as an executive order.
01:13:37.000What they're going to do with this, since they can't get their agenda through legislatively in America or in Europe, they're just going to bring it in as part of a trade agreement.
01:13:48.000That's what these guys are really after.
01:13:50.000They're really trying to shut down the Internet, shut down the press, just as we were talking about in the previous segment, Cheryl Atkinson being gagged by CBS We now have the smoking gun proof.
01:14:02.000The emails have surfaced within the Justice Department sending emails to CBS telling them to shut her up because she was asking questions about Fast and Furious.
01:14:11.000One of the few people in the mainstream media that was asking questions.
01:14:15.000Yeah, and it's not just Cheryl Atkinson.
01:14:17.000We had the CNBC reporter silenced for criticising Obamacare.
01:14:24.000We have, you know, CNN journalists who criticise the TSA, and then they go to the airport and find out that they get special treatment.
01:14:33.000Then going back to the FCC, I mean, you know, they're sending people into newsrooms to try and dictate news content under the guise of polls and surveys.
01:14:42.000The FCC is not the friend of free speech and this net neutrality issue.
01:14:47.000They're not even pushing real net neutrality.
01:14:49.000They're pushing a reclassification of the internet under the Telecommunications Act.
01:14:55.000So they want it to look like cable television.
01:15:09.000They want the government to have the power in times of crisis, as the communist Chinese government says when it's crushing dissent in Tibet, to go down and shut down certain parts of the internet, make it off limits for people in certain areas of the country.
01:16:06.000I wanted to get your comment, and Paul's got a lot of questions for you.
01:16:08.000I wanted to get your comment on Jim Webb, who's announced his candidacy opposing Hillary Clinton.
01:16:15.000He's forming a committee to explore that.
01:16:18.000I think he could cause Hillary Clinton a lot of discomfort, I think, opposing some of the things that were done as she was Secretary of State.
01:16:26.000Of course, he was the Secretary of the Navy while you were there at the Reagan administration.
01:16:34.000He had some interesting comments about Libya.
01:16:36.000He said there were no treaties at risk, there were no Americans at risk, there were no terrorist attacks coming out of Libya.
01:17:15.000He may simply find that he gets smeared or framed up or some kind of accusations come forward.
01:17:24.000That's the usual trick they use to get rid of unwelcome.
01:17:31.000It could certainly make things interesting for her because, of course, with his experience as Secretary of the Navy and he was a Vietnam War vet and he's pretty much come out against the military-industrial complex at the same time that Hillary is doing everything she can to embrace the military-industrial complex and perpetual war, isn't it?
01:17:49.000That's right, but the fact that he's against it means they'll work against him.
01:17:58.000Yeah, I was just reading Dr. Roberts' article earlier today, the next presidential election will move the world closer to war, in which you write, Dr. Roberts, Hillary as president would mean war with Russia.
01:18:10.000Why are we more likely to see this cold war turn hot under Hillary than under Obama or even Bush before him?
01:18:22.000One, of course, we've already discussed that she's in tight with the military security complex.
01:18:29.000And, of course, she has also compared Putin to Hitler.
01:18:34.000She has made a direct comparison of the Russian president to Adolf Hitler, and that's something she can't really back away from.
01:18:44.000So when you go that far out on the limb, you really kind of have to go the rest of the way.
01:18:51.000So I think it's almost certain that if you get somebody like Hillary in the office of president, that she will certainly accommodate the neoconservatives who also want war with Russia because they think Russia can be defeated.
01:19:13.000And the military security complex, they'll support all that.
01:19:20.000And of course, most of the generals, you know, war is good for promotions.
01:19:27.000So I don't think there's any candidate That we could end up with this president that would be more likely to go to war with Russia than Hillary.
01:19:39.000I think that's a real possibility, especially with the Republicans in control of the House and Senate.
01:19:45.000They would rubber stamp any kind of war that she would want to go into in just about any place.
01:19:50.000We're going to be right back with Paul Craig Roberts and Paul Joseph Watson.
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01:24:40.000Yeah, well obviously we've seen this international propaganda campaign to demonise Russia over MH17 despite the fact that the State Department has repeatedly failed to provide hard evidence.
01:24:53.000I just wanted to ask Dr Roberts Has it become any clearer in your mind who was responsible for the downing of MH17?
01:25:01.000And will the NATO powers need to contrive or exploit a similar incident, maybe even on a bigger scale, to grease the skids for war against Russia in the future?
01:25:14.000Well, you know, it seems clear that Kiev was responsible and probably with Washington's complicity.
01:25:23.000And the reason this seems clear is that the Dutch government just the other day announced that they weren't releasing the results of the investigation.
01:25:36.000Because when the investigation was set up, an agreement was made that any participant in the investigation could veto its release.
01:25:50.000And apparently Kiv, the American puppet government, Kiv is blocked the release and the Dutch minister in charge of all this said that he thought it was more important to maintain good relations between the countries who were participating in the investigation than to release the results to the public.
01:26:17.000So, assuming this news report is correct, what that tells us is that we are not going to get the results.
01:26:27.000And if you're not going to get the results, that means they're unfavorable to Kiev and to Washington.
01:26:35.000Clearly, if the results were unfavorable to Russia, they would be released.
01:26:42.000Russia is not part of the investigation and would have no veto power over it.
01:26:48.000At least that's my understanding from the news report.
01:26:52.000Regardless, if it was against Russia, it would be released.
01:26:57.000Think how long this has been going on.
01:26:59.000It doesn't take this long to figure out what happened.
01:27:32.000If they start the violence again against the separatists, what they hope is to draw Russia into it, because what Washington really wants to do is to permanently break up the economic and political relations between Europe and Russia.
01:27:51.000Putin knows this, and so he's not been drawn into it.
01:27:57.000He has essentially sacrificed the Russians in the separatist provinces in order to try to maintain his relationships with Europe, because he really understands that if Washington can break Russia from Europe, that Washington can continue with Europe as a vassal state.
01:28:20.000Whereas if the economic and political developments between Russia and Europe continue, Europe will be pulled away from Washington and be pulled out of NATO.
01:28:32.000And so he's willing to take the risk for the Russian residents in the in southeastern Ukraine in order to try to hold or to keep Europe from being irredeemably lost into American vassalage.
01:28:50.000So in my opinion, that's that's what's going on.
01:28:54.000It's going to be hard for them To get Russia into a war because of this, of what Putin sees, the consequences with Europe.
01:29:08.000Well, I think it's going to be interesting to see how this develops.
01:29:11.000And as we pointed out earlier, as what you said, Dr. Roberts, that if Hillary Clinton becomes president, we are going to see war because I think she's going to be there with a Republican Congress that is going to rubber stamp Everything that she would want to do.
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01:36:15.000And we've been talking a little bit about this between Paul Joseph Watson and I earlier in the program.
01:36:21.000How unfortunate that this is not about trying to get oversight or control of the police or setting limits or terms on the rules of engagement to try to stop this epidemic of violence.
01:36:35.000It's something as part of that I think there's agent provocateurs that are threatening the police and that kind of feeds this whole mentality that they're trying to feed the police all the time that they are actually in a war on the streets and that the public are enemy combatants.
01:36:51.000Last night, everyone was peacefully protesting.
01:36:54.000It didn't get out of control for, you know, maybe it was like five minutes, but it didn't get out of control until all these police officers showed up and they started lining up in riot gear.
01:37:03.000Before that, the people were just out protesting across the street in the parking lot.
01:37:07.000Some moved over into the sidewalk in front of the police station.
01:37:11.000But they were just out there protesting.
01:37:13.000Once a police officer showed up with batons, shields, riot gear, then it made the people angry.
01:37:18.000They're asking them, why do you come out here with guns?
01:37:20.000Why do you come out here with shields?
01:37:21.000Why do you come out here with all this gear?
01:37:44.000Jakar Jackson and I once again were standing in a very lawful spot on the sidewalk.
01:37:50.000We were once again pushed by the police into the road.
01:37:53.000Into an unlawful area where we're impeding the flow of traffic, and then last night yet again, they bomb rushed everybody, pushed them into a dark parking lot, started throwing people to the ground.
01:38:02.000Someone said they were shot with a rubber bullet.
01:38:04.000I didn't personally see that, but that's what was said.
01:38:07.000There was a lot of scuffling going on.
01:38:09.000One man fought with the police for a minute, was thrown to the ground.
01:38:12.000Three people were arrested last night.
01:38:19.000We're watching anybody who's looking at the video feed of the broadcast can see the footage that you guys shot, the B-roll that's there, the police confronting people.
01:38:33.000There was an article just this last week, it was on NPR, I think, and they were talking about how some of the remote areas of Alaska might start to arm their policemen.
01:38:43.000Says it's the last area in America where the police aren't armed at all.
01:38:47.000They basically go out and what they do is they talk to people.
01:38:50.000They don't try to get confrontational with them.
01:38:52.000As a matter of fact, they talked to a police officer and he said part of the job is trying to talk to people in a non-confrontational way and yet we see just the opposite here.
01:39:05.000Yeah, I mean, that's de-escalating the situation without using, without a show of force.
01:39:09.000That makes someone a lot more comfortable.
01:39:11.000When someone comes up to you with a shotgun pointed at you, wearing riot gear, in your mind you're thinking, alright, this person means business.
01:39:18.000They're not trying to negotiate with me.
01:39:20.000You don't see negotiators who go into a hostile, or a hostage situation with a gun and a shield.
01:39:28.000They go in, they confront the The hostage taker and they talk to them one-on-one because that's the only way you can de-escalate a situation.
01:39:35.000You don't go in there with guns because all that does is incite more violence and make people uneasy about themselves and put themselves in a defensive posture.
01:39:43.000I think they've been trying to incite this thing from day one, as I mentioned to Paul earlier.
01:39:48.000If they had this evidence and they knew what was happening, they had a deposition, they didn't give anybody any indication of this.
01:39:55.000They wanted to build this up into a racial confrontation, into a confrontation that further enforces this idea amongst the police that they're at war.
01:40:05.000Paul, did you have a question that you wanted to ask Joe while he's there?
01:40:09.000Yeah, I was just reading a headline that's just come out, Masked Ferguson Protesters with Guns Threaten Violence, which is basically a YouTube video of some people dressed up in black ski masks threatening violence.
01:40:20.000I just wanted to ask Joe, if it was part of the conversation amongst the demonstrators, if they were aware of the fact that there are outside agitators, as there were back in August, planning maybe to escalate it from their side, is that something that people are talking about?
01:40:36.000Um, there's a lot of people out there making, uh, empty threats, you know, via social media.
01:40:42.000All the people that we've seen on the ground out here, these protests, when the cameras aren't on them, you know, they're out there hugging.
01:40:48.000You see black people, white people hugging each other, talking, laughing, joking.
01:40:52.000And for some reason, they only, the mainstream media always catches people when they're yelling at the police officers.
01:40:57.000So it seems like All the people here are just angry and they want to fight.
01:41:01.000You know, about the video you're talking about, I saw that about four days ago, and I did a little research myself.
01:41:07.000That's actually a group out of Atlanta, so that's not something here in Ferguson, but Atlanta's another spot where they're talking about having demonstrations after this grand jury decision comes down.
01:41:18.000You know, we have an article on InfoWars from Max Slavo where he's talking about outside agitators and one in particular, Elisa Fithian, who he says was partly responsible for organizing the violent protest in the battle for Seattle, essentially saying, you know, we need to take this to people.
01:41:40.000I haven't watched the video So I don't know if she's black or white, but I'm presuming that's what it is again an outside agitator feeding this Racial divide we're going to have Eric rush joining us in the in the next hour He's an author of negrophilia from slave birth block to pedestal.
01:41:58.000And so he's going to be talking about the racial aspect of this, how people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton always seem to show up at the scene of, as Paul Joseph Watson put it, these ambiguous shootings to try to exploit the racial unrest there.
01:42:14.000But have you heard anything else about the grand jury verdict?
01:42:20.000Nothing is surfaced yet about that, is that correct?
01:42:23.000Well, so what we're hearing so far today, and I believe at this time, this is probably the truest thing we've gotten so far, and that's because of the large...
01:42:33.000You know, influx of all these mainstream media people that are starting to show up now and the heavy police presence today.
01:42:38.000What we're being told is that the grand jury is going to call the family and give them a 48 hour advance notice.
01:42:45.000So today is the day that they're supposed to call the family and also warn the military and the police in the area for what's going to happen after this decision comes out.
01:42:56.000But, you know, from the people I've talked to, In Ferguson last night on the streets, they all know that the family, once they get that information, that there will be a leak.
01:43:05.000They're going to make phone calls, they're going to tell somebody, and somebody on that inner circle is going to want to be the person that releases it out.
01:43:11.000And I have a feeling by tonight, we'll know whether or not Darren Wilson is going to be indicted on these charges or not.
01:43:18.000But what they're saying is they're going to try and wait and publicly let the media know on Sunday, 48 hours later.
01:43:23.000But I have a feeling that's not going to happen.
01:43:25.000Yeah, that's going to leak out and that's going to get Obama's amnesty off of the top of the headlines, isn't it?
01:43:32.000Well, yeah, I mean that's the plan anyways, you know.
01:43:34.000Let's go ahead and cover that up with a Ferguson burka.
01:43:40.000Paul, did you have another question that you wanted to ask Joe?
01:43:43.000Yeah, just reading some breaking news actually.
01:43:45.000Ferguson schools are going to be closed Monday and Tuesday.
01:43:49.000That's not confirmed, but it seems like a pretty strong rumour.
01:43:52.000So, if this decision is announced today, it looks like that any trouble, any violence, if it happens, they expect it to happen on Sunday after that 48-hour notice.
01:44:03.000Schools are closed on Monday and Tuesday.
01:44:05.000Just wanted to ask Joe if Officer Darren Wilson has suggested that he will resign no matter what happens with the grand jury case.
01:44:13.000Do you think that will serve to de-escalate any of the tensions or will it not make any difference?
01:44:19.000I don't think it's going to make any difference.
01:44:20.000You know, like I said, Ferguson has this gaping wound and it's been festering now for months on end because this has taken, quite honestly, too long to come to a decision on.
01:44:30.000You know, they've been teeter-tottering with the media, you know, acting like they're going to release the information.
01:45:18.000I mean, we talked earlier about Frank Serpico's op-ed piece for Politico that came out about three weeks ago.
01:45:26.000He had six specific proposals, things like community involvement from police officers, and that means a lot more than just having A certain percentage of people who are black and a certain percentage of white.
01:45:37.000He's talking about something that's far deeper than that.
01:45:39.000He's talking about having oversight of the police with independent commissions that are set up in the community.
01:45:45.000Has anybody proposed any concrete solutions to the police situation?
01:45:52.000I haven't heard anything to that nature whatsoever, but when you go out and you talk to people out here on the streets, when you ask them, what do you think's going on?
01:45:59.000First thing they do, they roll their eyes, they put their head down, And it's that Ferguson fatigue.
01:46:04.000It's set in for everybody in this area, in the surrounding St.
01:46:10.000But you have a lot of the young protesters who are really angry.
01:46:14.000They don't have the same life experiences as the older people who've lived in Ferguson for 50, 60 years.
01:46:20.000You know, the older crowds that we talked to, they just wanted to be over with.
01:46:23.000Regardless of the situation, they want everyone to be peaceful.
01:46:26.000But a lot of the younger people, they're mad, they're angry, they don't know how to to focus that anger in a positive way.
01:46:33.000And what we're hearing a lot of is people want to come down to Clayton.
01:46:37.000They want to riot in this area because this is where the decisions are made.
01:46:40.000But when you talk to a lot of the citizens in Ferguson as well, what they're thinking of, what they're more worried about are the outside agitators.
01:46:47.000They know that they've had discussions with a lot of these young, young adults who live in Ferguson and they've talked and they said, hey, destroying our neighborhood is not going to do anything.
01:47:03.000But what they're worried about now are these outside agitators from other states coming in, who are professional protesters, rioters, anarchists, who feed off of that anger, that energy, and they just want total and complete chaos.
01:47:15.000And that's what people in this area are worried about.
01:47:18.000The people are going to come in here, burn the city down, and then fly back to their homes in California, New York, Chicago, wherever it may be, and go back into their cozy homes or apartments and sit back and watch everything go up in flames on Fox and CNN.
01:47:33.000And that is, you know, that they're not going to focus this in any positive way that could really make it better for that community or make it better for anywhere else.
01:47:41.000And as Paul pointed out, they always like to pick these ambiguous situations where they can get both sides even more at war with each other, even more angry, try to balkanize the population even more into racial groups or whatever.
01:47:55.000Paul, do you have any other comments that you wanted to, questions you want to ask Joe while he's there?
01:47:59.000Yeah, I was just wondering from being on the ground there, Joe, we've seen comments by some of the protesters about moving away from West Florissant, which I believe is the main area where they've been congregated, and going to South Florissant, because that's where the white people live, is basically what they're saying.
01:48:16.000Where do you think these protests will be situated, and are they going to target businesses again, or is this just going to be a general street protest from what you can see there on the ground?
01:48:27.000Well, South Florissant is right where the police station and fire department is.
01:48:31.000Now, back on Halloween, there was a, they called it a vandal.
01:48:38.000Someone hit a transformer and knocked out the power in that area and it actually took out the power to the police department and the fire station.
01:48:46.000So, that was one of the threats by one of the militants was to hit the power grid and take that out.
01:48:51.000It's not going to be South Florissant that I'm hearing.
01:48:53.000I'm hearing it's what they call South City.
01:48:55.000South City is where we're at now, like Clayton.
01:49:15.000These are the people they blame for not handling the situation about the death of Mike Brown very well.
01:49:21.000And they're very mad at these, the lawmakers, the politicians.
01:49:24.000And the higher-ups and the police force in this area.
01:49:27.000So the word on the street, we spoke to a preacher the other day, too.
01:49:30.000He believes that this is where most of the violence will be focused on, here in the Clayton area, around the courthouse, the Justice Center, and surrounding white areas as well.
01:49:39.000That's why a lot of the schools in the area that you heard about will possibly shut down on Monday and Tuesday, just because they want a brace for the worst.
01:49:47.000Everyone's hoping for the best, but we saw what happened in August.
01:49:50.000And with the National Guard being called in, The pictures I saw yesterday of people following them coming into St.
01:49:56.000Louis, right now as we speak they should be setting up around that red perimeter that we have a picture that Kit Daniels did an article right now.
01:50:03.000They're supposed to have National Guard set up at different areas and posting up and waiting on that verdict so when it happens they can close in and try to Uh, de-escalate the situation, I guess, as best as they can.
01:50:15.000But, at the end of the day, they're gonna strip people's liberties away.
01:50:17.000Like I said, they're, you know, already telling local businesses that they're gonna lock the doors and keep anybody who's inside locked in there for as long as they have to.
01:50:26.000Well, you know, getting in people's faces with guns and shields and tanks isn't really going to de-escalate the situation.
01:50:32.000As you pointed out earlier, Joe, it's only going to escalate it.
01:50:39.000And, of course, we have agent provocateurs from outside the area there as well.
01:50:45.000A violent confrontation is only going to make this thing worse unless they come forward with real concrete proposals, and those are going to have to come from outside of City Hall.
01:50:54.000If the community could get itself together to have some proposals like that, that would really help.
01:50:58.000But we've got to go to commercial break.
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01:54:23.000We're going to go back to Jakari Jackson there.
01:54:25.000They've been there all week observing the build-up to the grand jury verdict that is expected to be released today, at least perhaps as Joe was telling us.
01:54:36.000Secretly or confidentially to the family of Michael Brown.
01:54:40.000That's probably not going to stay confidential.
01:54:42.000They expect this to erupt this weekend.
01:54:44.000We also have Paul Joseph Watson on the line with us as co-host from the UK.
01:54:49.000Let's go back to Ferguson to Jakari Jackson.
01:54:55.000You know, he doesn't typically have a guy talking to us off camera.
01:54:58.000Ja'Kari Jackson from Clayton, Missouri.
01:55:00.000Joe Biggs was just telling me we had a breaking news situation that the prosecutor is ready to have a press conference to announce some of the things that are going on with the Darien Wilson trial.
01:55:09.000So as soon as we're done here, we'll try to get over there and see if we can get into that.
01:55:13.000But meanwhile, yeah, we've talked to a lot of people who are in the area.
01:55:17.000The gentleman who was just speaking to us off camera, he was saying that he didn't expect The outcome to be all that bad as far as the street response.
01:55:24.000He didn't so much expect to see the riots and the protests and all the things that we've seen previously.
01:55:29.000A lot of people that we've talked to, they have varying degrees of concern.
01:55:33.000Some people think it's gonna be worse than it was back in August.
01:55:35.000Some people think it's just gonna be a minor thing, so only time will tell.
01:55:39.000But I do agree that, you know, once this thing is announced, you know, whether the prosecutor tells us exactly what's going on or they kind of string us along and just, you know, how they do.
01:55:48.000You've dealt with these PIOs before, Davey.
01:55:51.000They give you just enough to say that they gave you something, even though they didn't tell you anything at all.
01:56:50.000We see the cops already out in riot gear.
01:56:52.000At least they go out to the protests there in riot gear and all that.
01:56:55.000So the people here on the ground are taking this very seriously.
01:56:58.000The majority of people I've talked to since I've been here, they're peaceful people.
01:57:03.000They do expect some agent provocateurs.
01:57:05.000If you guys see that video I posted, not last night but the night before, I talked to the guy in the Guy Fawkes mask.
01:57:10.000And he was saying that the majority of the people here are good, peaceful people, but they do expect the agent provocateurs and people who just want to come in and kick up stuff to burn down, to riot, to loot.
01:57:20.000They do expect those people to come in, but by and large, the crowds here are mostly peaceful.
01:57:52.000And that's that kind of agent provocateuring where you guys are the threats.
01:57:57.000You remember David, they came out earlier this week.
01:57:59.000Uh, the, uh, the list of the targets got released, you know, as many things on there, including Monsanto, other local businesses, and also many officers' families.
01:58:08.000And to anybody out there watching, uh, if you think that targeting the families of these officers is going to do anything besides just agitate them to the point where they will have no patience, I'm not exactly sure what you're expecting to happen.
01:58:19.000It just feeds the narrative that this is a war zone, and that's not the message we need to be sending to our police.
01:58:25.000We need to be sending a different message to them.
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02:01:17.000It's like throwing a Molotov cocktail when you threaten the families of the police.
02:01:22.000And of course, we have agent provocateurs that are there covertly.
02:01:25.000We have had agent provocateurs that show up at all of these ambiguous situations, people like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton.
02:01:32.000We're going to be talking in the next segment to Eric Rush.
02:01:36.000He's going to be He's the author of Negrophilia from Slave Block to Pedestal and he takes on the race pimps like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.
02:01:46.000He takes them on directly and he talks about what's really behind this and of course that's the other unfortunate outcome that they've engineered here in Ferguson is to turn it into one race against another.
02:01:58.000Of course, the black community has felt the brunt of the epidemic of police violence more than the white community has, but that's not the way to confront this problem.
02:02:09.000There are things that need to be done.
02:02:11.000We've talked about Frank Serpico's suggestions about how they have outside control of the police as well as mandating police involvement in the community.
02:02:22.000Not Not just hiring a certain number of people of one race or the other, because if they're not actively involved in the community, whether they're white or black, they're going to identify more as being blue than anything else.
02:02:33.000Paul, your comments on what we just heard from Ferguson.
02:02:37.000Yeah, it's interesting that they're having the press conference on it, because obviously we thought there would be a delay before the decision, the actual announcement of it.
02:02:45.000There's an interesting article out in the Washington Times though.
02:02:47.000Americans say officers should not be indicted, 81% predict violent reaction.
02:02:53.000So only one in four Americans believe that white police officer Darren Wilson should be charged with murder by the grand jury in the shooting death of unarmed black teenager Michael Brown, according to a poll released Friday.
02:03:05.000So only one in four believe that he's guilty of murder.
02:03:09.00081% predict a violent reaction and only 10% predict that there will be no violent reaction whatsoever.
02:03:18.000So that kind of squares with what we were talking about earlier regarding the ambiguity of the shooting itself.
02:03:24.000I understand people's, you know, I understand the black community looking at this verdict and saying they're getting away with it yet again because we've seen so many clear-cut cases where the police do not police themselves.
02:03:36.000And that was one of the things that Frank Serpico said.
02:03:38.000He said, get over the idea that the police are going to police themselves.
02:03:40.000It's not going to happen without outside oversight.
02:03:44.000But there are cases where there are justified police shootings.
02:03:48.000It's such a long history of the other kind.
02:03:50.000I can see that many people there are going to go ahead and take out their frustration and their anger at the system by just striking out blindly in violence rather than trying to change the system from the outside.
02:04:05.000There was actually, a few years ago, I forgot the name of the individual, but it was on the guy on the subway that was basically murdered in cold blood.
02:04:14.000Then recently, the case in New York, the guy selling cigarettes basically put in a chokehold by a police officer, choked him to death.
02:04:23.000And again, we didn't see any kind of mass protest over that incident.
02:04:28.000Even though it was flagrantly an example of police brutality, there was no debate about it whatsoever.
02:04:34.000I think there's a lot of people who, you know, we talk about people putting up with the police violence against the black community.
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02:08:28.000Live from the InfoWars.com studios, it's Alex Jones.
02:08:38.000We have Paul Joseph Watson with us from the UK.
02:08:41.000And joining us now is Eric Rush, author of Negrophilia, from Slave Block to Pedestal.
02:08:47.000You know, we've seen Al Sharpton and Ferguson, as well as Jesse Jackson, show up.
02:08:52.000They always show up, as Paul put it, at these ambiguous situations.
02:08:56.000When there's a clear-cut injustice, you don't usually see them.
02:08:59.000But when it's something that is kind of ambiguous, and they can use that to really separate the races, you know, because It looked like for at the beginning everything that we were hearing sounded like it was yet another case of an unjustified use of force by the police and then after they let that narrative simmer for quite some time and built up a lot of attention over that they then start releasing evidence that would clear the officer.
02:09:25.000So it looks like a deliberate manipulation as well as the timing of this grand jury verdict.
02:09:32.000And, of course, anybody that knows anything about grand juries knows that they're not the same as a regular jury.
02:09:38.000Juries are pretty much under the influence of judges.
02:09:41.000They, in many cases, unfortunately, act as a rubber stamp for the judge, not taking into account their right and their duty to judge the law as well as the facts of the case.
02:09:50.000So they don't usually think independently, but certainly with a grand jury, that is the case.
02:09:55.000As many people point out, you can indict a ham sandwich with a right grand jury.
02:10:12.000Now, we see this over and over again, as you point out, and you call out Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, the people who have basically made a career out of exacerbating race relations wherever they can go.
02:10:23.000You kind of call them out as to, you know, to doing this, but you also have something else, I think, that's very interesting to say about this whole notion that they've sold us about white privilege.
02:10:34.000I'll let you have the floor and explain your thesis to us.
02:10:38.000Well, the fact of the matter is that it's kind of, as I talk about in my book, Negrophilia, from Slave Lock to Pedestal, America's Racial Obsession, you know, you have on the one hand the political left that is really exploiting black Americans.
02:10:57.000I mean, in a way, they're sort of like the new plantation owners.
02:11:02.000But then the other side of the coin is that Blacks cannot be criticized for anything.
02:11:09.000You have many situations in which blacks are not held accountable.
02:11:15.000I think this Michael Brown shooting is sort of a case in point.
02:11:21.000His participation In the events leading up to his unfortunate demise are not only not being looked at in a, you know, in a realistic context, they're just been, they've just been surrealistically spun in the other direction.
02:11:42.000And I believe that that has to do with, you know, I believe that has to do not only with the economic imperative that some activists, Jesse, Al, the rest of them have for, you know, advancing the idea that America is still an institutionally racist nation.
02:12:01.000But I think that there are other political motivations going on.
02:12:06.000We can get into the administration and Eric Holder and all of them if you want, but it is part of this racial orthodoxy that has been advanced.
02:12:21.000It really has been advanced to the detriment of blacks and to the benefit of people who either politically or economically or both are profiting from this, you know, advancing this twisted worldview.
02:12:36.000Yeah, we even see like in the recent election we see Mary Landrieu in Louisiana Who made the amazing claim that her sinking popularity and the sinking popularity of Obama was because people didn't like women and blacks.
02:12:49.000When Obama's been elected twice, she's been elected three times, she can't admit that this could be something about what they're doing, their actual actions, their policies.
02:12:59.000Essentially, the pedestal has completely swung the other way, hasn't it?
02:13:03.000Like you point out in the subtitle of your book, from slave block to pedestal.
02:13:07.000We have put people on a pedestal, especially people like Barack Obama.
02:13:10.000You can't criticize him without being called a racist.
02:13:15.000And for example, the fact that he was elected twice and did have this massive support, at least, you know, the first time that he was elected, all of that goes by the wayside when they want to pull out the race card.
02:13:29.000You know, in the case of, for example, Trayvon Martin.
02:13:33.000It didn't matter that George Zimmerman was this little Latino man.
02:13:40.000The press and the agitators spun him into this Nordic god with his war hammer, prowling around for little black kids to squish.
02:14:06.000You know, it's interesting, in your book you said, and of course, Barack Obama, Mary Landrieu, couldn't have been elected if men didn't vote for her, if white people didn't vote for Obama, and yet they always spin it that way.
02:14:22.000You point out that in 1964, you said in your book, there was justifiable collective shame on the part of whites and justifiable collective anger On the part of blacks, there was a fundamental change in the hearts and minds of white people at that point in time.
02:14:41.000I think they went maybe too far to the other extreme, as you point out, putting people on a pedestal rather than just handling them as individuals.
02:14:50.000Well, you know, Americans, I don't know if it has to do with our character or if it has to do with the effectiveness of the propaganda machine, but we have this habit of just blasting by the sort of happy medium, the middle ground, where we sort of need to live.
02:15:09.000And we've done that in a number of areas.
02:15:11.000Um, the whole race thing being, uh, you know, one of them, you know, we go from, you know, blacks being second class citizens to, um, blacks being exploited by the very people who are supposed to be helping them and young black multimillionaires getting on television every single day.
02:15:31.000Talking about this being an institutionally racist nation.
02:15:38.000And it's something that is damaging to black people as well, as Walter Williams has pointed out many times.
02:15:45.000The fact that they put them on a pedestal is damaging to the black community as well, because it's a condescending thing to do that, isn't it?
02:15:51.000It's saying you can't achieve this on your own.
02:15:54.000We're going to set aside quotas for you.
02:15:59.000I remember when Affirmative Action came out, for example, and I was about to start applying for colleges and stuff, and jobs and what have you, and it drove me out of my tree that they were setting up this sort of structure
02:16:19.000That was going to not only advance the whole reverse racism, unfairness, that whole deal, but that it was going to wind up in the long term being detrimental to minorities, blacks, women, what have you.
02:16:36.000And again, it's a different kind of subtle bigotry, but it's bigotry nonetheless.
02:16:43.000Yeah, I see, I grew up in the South, and I see in this reverse racism, the quotas and that sort of thing, I see kind of a hint back to Reconstruction in some, I see some parallels to that.
02:16:55.000It's part of the history that I think that America doesn't really know, and I think that was a key part In the change in the hearts and minds of the white community.
02:17:04.000I think a lot of them had forgotten what had happened there.
02:17:07.000And it's like, why do we have these laws here where we're oppressing this group of people?
02:17:12.000But I think what had happened was essentially what we're seeing happening in Ferguson, where they misdirect the anger from one group to the other.
02:17:21.000That was, I think, when I look back at Reconstruction, they took a kind of An oppression that was masquerading as a paternalism during slavery, and they misdirected that into an actual hatred of blacks during Reconstruction that I think turned up in these Jim Crow laws.
02:17:39.000And after a generation where people had lost that history, it's like, we don't really need this anymore.
02:18:00.000I mean, they're exploiting, you know, ageism, sexism, sexual orientationism, just any kind, any sort of subtle difference between, you know, subgroups in our American society that they have been able to exploit.
02:18:21.000They do that, and I believe that this administration has really taken it to another level with regard to that cultural balkanization, and we're seeing that play out right now in Ferguson.
02:18:34.000You know, the left compromises blacks economically, educationally, all these different ways, and then when something like this Michael Brown thing happens, whether or not it's legitimate, Yes.
02:18:48.000is immaterial in terms of the police brutality angle, but then they point to the name of blacks' pain being white racism.
02:19:02.000You know, and of course, in terms of balkanization, we saw that in heavy handwriting last night with Obama's announcement and the way it was handled, doing it on the anniversary of Mexico's independence, doing it right before the Latin Grammys.
02:19:23.000We don't know that it's going to be five million people.
02:19:25.000And he's incentivizing illegal immigration because it's the perfect form of Balkanization.
02:19:30.000You not only got cultural differences that you can play up, but of course language differences that they can play up.
02:19:38.000And of course they're trying to play up a racial aspect to it as well.
02:19:41.000We're talking to Eric Rush, the author of Negrophilia.
02:19:44.000We're going to be right back after the break and I promise I'm going to give Paul Joseph Watson a chance to jump in and ask you some questions.
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02:24:22.000We have with us Eric Rush, the author of Negrophilia, From Slave Block to Pedestal.
02:24:27.000We thought it'd be great to have him on to talk about race relations and what has really happened in this country, especially because of what's going on in Ferguson.
02:24:37.000We see conscious race baiting and manipulation, divide and conquer strategies that are going on there.
02:24:43.000And joining us also is Paul Joseph Watson.
02:24:46.000I got to ask all the questions in the last segment.
02:24:48.000I'm going to give Paul a chance to ask Mr. Rush a question.
02:24:51.000But I'm also going to give you a chance to ask questions.
02:24:54.000We're going to give out our 800 number.
02:25:08.000Go ahead, Paul, do you have a question for Mr. Rush?
02:25:11.000Yeah, congratulations on your book, by the way, Eric.
02:25:14.000I see an overwhelming amount of five-star reviews on Amazon, which, for an obviously contentious subject, is quite the achievement.
02:25:21.000But I wanted to ask you about Obama himself, because we know his upbringing, his mentors, I'm speaking of the likes of Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, the influence that they had on him, how did that shape Barack Obama's views on race and class in America?
02:25:40.000Well, it absolutely had a major effect.
02:25:44.000I mean, the guy was raised, not just in his adult life, but from the time that he was fairly young.
02:25:55.000Whichever origins narrative you want to believe, and there are a few of them out there, the common denominator is always a very
02:26:09.000You know, anti-Western, anti-American, in some cases anti-Christian, anti-Semitic, anti-capitalist, you know, anti-all of the things that we sort of grew up as, you know, being taught, you know, most of our worldview in as like these things, there's nothing wrong with these things.
02:26:32.000You know, as we were talking about in the last segment, you know, we sort of matured as a country and woke up one day and was like, whoa, you know, it's not cool to have these, you know, whole segment of society, like, meaning blacks being you know, second-class citizens, sort of like they woke up one day and said, hey, you know, there's women not voting.
02:27:03.000And so we had these people who sort of, you know, they stick to this idea for whatever their, you know, mental makeup or neurosis or whatever it happens to be that America is the name of the world's mental makeup or neurosis or whatever it happens to be that And Obama was, he was suckled on that, basically.
02:27:28.000So if you look at his early life, all the way up through his college, you know, early employment, everything, it was, he was almost exclusively exposed to, mentored by, socialized by, and with people who hated America and the West.
02:27:46.000Yeah, you know, I think a lot of people are not familiar with the upbringing of Obama in Indonesia.
02:27:53.000There's a movie that came out, I didn't know anything really about the Indonesian situation that he grew up in or went to Indonesia shortly afterwards, but there's a movie called The Act of Killing that really sheds a lot of light on that regime there that his adoptive father brought him up in.
02:28:11.000He was Very tightly connected to that regime and of course his mom was there as many of us believe as part of the CIA USAID's Openly been a part of the CIA her parents were both in the CIA.
02:28:23.000He grew up in an alien culture Grew up in an authoritarian culture that had just committed mass murder on a gigantic scale and then he comes back to America and he hangs out with Frank Davis and It was a bomb thrower Bill Ayers, thank you But yeah, he hangs out with those guys.
02:28:46.000I mean, regardless of the photoshopped birth certificate, his origins should have caused people to have great concern about that.
02:28:53.000Absolutely, and few people know as well that there were people who were involved in his early life other than those you have mentioned who were politically active and interactive.
02:29:09.000People from the leftist community in the United States who were politically active with the Sukarno regime and all of those guys in Indonesia.
02:29:18.000In addition to which, you also have to remember that that is an Islamic, if not Islamist, society over there.
02:29:29.000Yes, and of course, the first time he appeared in public at Georgetown University after the inauguration, he insisted that they cover up all Christian symbols at Georgetown University.
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02:34:53.000Now, reading from Mr. Rush's book, Negrophilia, here's one of his definitions.
02:34:59.000Of course, he talks about it quite extensively, but I just want to read this quote.
02:35:03.000He says, Negrophilia is not by nature a conscious partiality toward or devotion to black people, but a subliminal persuasion toward affinity.
02:35:12.000It's essentially the result of an ongoing propaganda campaign that has underpinned positive stereotypes.
02:35:19.000I think that's interesting, especially in light of all the controversy we've heard lately about Bill Cosby.
02:35:27.000That was a great show that was really kind of showing positive stereotypes, almost in an over-the-top, unbelievable way, like we would have seen back in the 1950s.
02:35:35.000And, you know, Mr. Rush, when I looked at that, I always thought that was a good thing.
02:35:41.000My curiosity at the time, and I think it kind of reflects on your book here a little bit, is the fact that In the 1980s, even though they could show the perfect black family, we couldn't have had a perfect white family on television really without getting laughed out of town.
02:36:06.000I don't expect our society to be perfect.
02:36:09.000I want to get away from that segment that thinks we can have utopia, because we really can't.
02:36:19.000It's you have to get to where you can recognize when when when you're being exposed to an agenda or propaganda or not and of course when you have something that is innocuous as a as a You know, NBC sitcom or whatever with this iconic, you know, beloved star, which Bill Cosby, I was going to say, is, at least he was then.
02:36:46.000You know, it was a nice, it was a nice show, as you said, but, you know, you have to put it into context.
02:36:55.000I mean, there were a lot of things that came out of that show, even if it was a good one, that bugged me.
02:37:03.000For example, it may not be something that you had picked up on, but when the Intelligentsia decided that we were going to call blacks African Americans now, the Cosby Show was Right out in front with that.
02:37:55.000We're so caught up on labels, and I don't know, you know, it's amazing how many times I've seen in my lifetime the label that they want to put on people that we now call black or call African-American.
02:38:06.000It's like, why do they keep changing it?
02:38:08.000And I think that all boils down to this premise that you've got in this book.
02:38:13.000I want to give people, some callers, a chance to ask some questions and comments.
02:38:33.000Yeah, I mean this is great to talk to you, Paul, and Mr. Rush all at once.
02:38:37.000I mean, I've heard you, David, and Paul say that, what are the people out here, what are their, like, opinions on alternative things to do other than violence?
02:38:51.000I mean, I say everybody gets a Transparent, legal, neighborhood watch, armed neighborhood watch, and everybody takes care of each other.
02:39:00.000But, I mean, my question to him, Mr. Rush, I think Bill Cosby was, for the most part of his life, definitely, you know, juiced in, let's say.
02:39:10.000But, he, I mean, I grew up watching, like, you know, Cosby's show, Family Matters.
02:39:42.000Yeah, well, you know, as someone was talking about this, I think, in the previous hour of the show, and that is the fact that, you know, the police typically aren't going to police themselves.
02:39:56.000And so, you know, you have to, while I have a respect for law enforcement, you do have to sort of look at the police with a critical eye to some extent.
02:40:06.000Because you do have incidents of police brutality, and sometimes it's race-based, sometimes it's not, sometimes it's just a matter of the police involved having become these really jaded, brutal individuals, and those things have to be handled on an individual basis.
02:40:25.000The problem that we have here isn't, you know, there may be a certain, you know, well, there is a certain level of police misfeasance everywhere you're going to go.
02:40:43.000But the problem that we're having here is interpretation.
02:40:47.000When you have A situation in which you have so many disenfranchised blacks, in this case it just happens to be blacks, who are disenfranchised for mostly economic reasons that can be traced to things other than white racism.
02:41:06.000And then you have it exploited due to this incident that, you know, arises Michael Brown.
02:41:15.000You know, you have to look at it in context.
02:41:17.000The problem isn't police brutality as so much as it is The disenfranchised, angry, you know, a lot of them impoverished, unemployed individuals who are being heavily propagandized.
02:41:33.000Well, that has a lot less to do with police brutality overall than it does a political agenda.
02:41:39.000So we have to address that first and foremost.
02:41:52.000First of all, I was wondering, Mr. Rush, if you've seen the documentary that I was carrying and interviewed the author of that.
02:41:59.000It's a DVD called Dreams from My Real Father about Obama.
02:42:04.000Also, why do you think it is that blacks in America are so willing to keep themselves on the globalist plantation when they can clearly get off of it?
02:42:14.000And the third thing is, I have a friend, and the way he responds to Obama, and I'm wondering if you disagree with this from what you know of him, he says he's a teleprompter reading CIA sock puppet.
02:42:38.000My friend refers to him as a teleprompter reading CIA sock puppet.
02:42:43.000Okay, well, let me address them in order.
02:42:46.000One, no, I have not seen the DVD, I haven't seen the movie, the DVD, Dreams from My Real Father, although I'm familiar with the content.
02:42:55.000Why do blacks stay on the On the plantation, because it's what you go with what you know.
02:43:04.000I mean, we grew up being told Hitler was an evil guy.
02:43:08.000If we had grown up being told Hitler was, you know, the next best thing to Jesus or Buddha, that's probably what we would have thought.
02:43:19.000You've got blacks who are being told by teachers, the press, agitators, community people, you know, people in their community, the Al Sharpe's of the world, what the deal is and who can save them.
02:43:34.000And that's, you know, typically, you know, voting Democrat.
02:43:40.000As far as Obama being a CIA sock puppet, right now he's kind of running the CIA.
02:43:47.000So I'm not quite sure how that would play out.
02:43:50.000I know that there were a lot of shadowy figures and parties, governments, organizations that played a part in his ascendancy.
02:44:01.000As far as who's pulling his strings now, you know, any number of people.
02:44:08.000But, you know, I mean, sort of him being a CIA sock puppet, in my view, is putting the card before the horse right at this moment.
02:44:16.000I want to get Paul Joseph Watson in with a comment, but I would say, going back to looking at some of this stuff, I look at the Indian Reservation System, where you talked about, have you grown up thinking that Adolf Hitler was a great guy?
02:45:55.000You comment first and we'll get past him.
02:45:56.000I was going to answer just real short.
02:45:59.000Toward the end of the book, I said, you know, when I talk to black people who start realizing this and they get angry, I tell them, hey, don't take it personally, you know.
02:46:09.000They're planning to enslave all of us.
02:46:17.000Yeah, I just thought about Culture and the role models that emerge out of culture.
02:46:22.000We were talking about the Cosby Show earlier.
02:46:24.000You know, I grew up watching things like the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, which, you know, they were silly, but generally a general positive portrayal of black people, of hard-working black families.
02:46:35.000Now, all we seem to have emerging out of black culture is hip-hop stars, you know, whose lyrics are laden with genuine misogyny, not that the feminists really care about it to a great extent, and this kind of idea that anybody can emerge out of their situation and just become a global multimillionaire superstar rapper, when the reality is obviously quite different.
02:46:57.000There doesn't seem to be that many Realistic, strong, black role models emerging out of culture that would guide black people, young black people growing up into becoming more, you know, self-empowered.
02:47:11.000So, I mean, Eric, what's your take on that in terms of hip-hop culture and how that's emerged and grown over the last two decades or so?
02:47:18.000At least that was a healthy thing, wasn't it, from the Cosby Show?
02:47:20.000At least they had doctors and lawyers as role models as opposed to rappers and gang members.
02:47:26.000Yeah, precisely, and I could go on about that all day long.
02:47:31.000I think it's definitely by design promoting this sort of lowest common denominator amongst blacks, and of course it's aimed primarily at the youth.
02:47:43.000Whereby you have this anti-socialism, disrespect for authority, misogyny, promiscuity, you know, every sort of, you know, low caliber value that you can name yet.
02:47:58.000If you bring that up in the same way that you bring up trying to get blacks off of the dependency plantation, they will label you a racist.
02:48:10.000They will say, you're trying to deprive black Americans of their culture.
02:48:18.000You're telling blacks that they're supposed to be these, you know, chain-snatching, you know, just baby-mama-making, you know, thieving, crack-smoking, cock-shooting, you know, basically, you know, scum?
02:48:35.000You're telling them how to self-identify.
02:48:52.000Yes, I called up wanting to disagree with Paul.
02:48:57.000First of all, I'm a big supporter of Alex and the host, and I find the author very interesting.
02:49:06.000But I want to say that the incident with Jeremiah Wright, with Reverend Wright, has been completely taken out of context.
02:49:14.000I actually saw the entire, well, a good portion of that sermon before his statement of goddamn America, and he was really saying, God bless America if America does right by God, And goddamn America, if America does wrong by God, the same message that conservative Protestant ministers have been making for hundreds of years.
02:49:42.000So really, Obama is more complex a person than the figure that some people have been saying.
02:49:52.000Yeah, I would argue that it's not just drawn from one sermon.
02:49:56.000It's rooted in the mindset that people like Jeremiah Wright are invested in.
02:50:00.000People like Bill Ayers that Obama was heavily influenced by and mentored by when he was growing up, which is this idea which we talked about before that America's founding was based on rapacious principles about stealing land from Mexicans.
02:50:14.000It was based on racist principles about genocide against Native Americans.
02:50:19.000Which again, if you read Dinesh D'Souza's America, Imagine a World Without Her, he completely demolishes that case historically.
02:50:26.000So that's the point I make about how Obama's worldview is influenced by these kind of people.
02:50:32.000Yeah, there's a larger context even than just that one particular speech.
02:50:36.000Would you like to address that, Mr. Rush?
02:50:39.000Uh, you know, I would just disagree with it on the same basis.
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02:54:38.000John, you have a question for Mr. Rush.
02:54:41.000Yes, I don't agree with much of what's been said, but I think some of the truth came out by a caller who pointed out that Obama is a CIA asset, going back since the time that he was brought as a toddler with his top CIA parents.
02:54:57.000To help oversee and participate in the genocidal anti-communist coup that the CIA perpetrated that killed over a million people with the rivers running red with blood.
02:55:12.000That coup that his parents, and he was present in, It was totally based on anti-communism, it was totally based on anti-leftism, and I wonder why we don't get some of the leftist critiques of Obama as a right-winger, because he was brought up.
02:55:31.000They'll use any kind of justification to do whatever they want to.
02:55:34.000If it's in their interest to pose as right-wingers, they'll do that.
02:55:37.000If it's in their interest to pose as left-wingers, they'll do that.
02:55:43.000Well, I'm somewhat curious as to which genocide the caller is referring to.
02:55:50.000Are you talking about Indonesia when you're talking about the rivers running red with blood?
02:55:54.000I'm talking about the fact that the Central Intelligence Agency overthrew a popular Suharto government to overthrow and kill the very popular millions of communists and their families and their supporters.
02:56:06.000And after that, Zbigniew Brzezinski tutored Obama at Columbia and has been his advisor ever since.
02:56:14.000And he is the most ultra-right, anti-communist, anti-Russia strategist at the country.
02:56:20.000So I believe this whole canard that somehow has been perpetrated that Obama is a leftist or a communist is a deliberate disinformation.
02:56:30.000Why don't we have people on the leftist black agenda report to criticize Obama as being nothing but a black face of Bush and Cheney.
02:57:14.000The governor of Missouri has a 16-person commission that he just formed with blacks, whites, younger, older, a policeman, young black activists.
02:57:25.000And is that a step in the right direction?
02:57:27.000What are things that blacks and whites can do to help set some things right where they need to be right?
02:57:33.000And just in general, what is your advice to whites who really care about these issues?
02:57:37.000But if you're being called Uncle Tom and such things, what can we say or do to make a difference?
02:57:43.000Well, I think that, as I said in the book, you know, we're going to have to sort of show a little bit of spine and collectively or individually decide that, you know, if somebody calls me some names, that's, you know, that, you know, the civil rights marchers had to put up with a whole hell of a lot more than just being called, you know, names.
02:58:06.000A lot of the, you know, the people who are in the same I mean, that's what we get.
02:58:13.000We have to look at it in terms of that this is what they are using in order to divide us.
02:58:20.000But if we look beyond that and start standing together and going to the heart of the matter, which is, you know, getting these people who have these agendas out of our damn government.