On this episode of Crashing Through the Lies and Disinformation, Alex takes a look at the fallout from Obama's executive order on immigration and the media's reaction to it. He also talks about the New York City police shooting of a 12-year-old who had a BB gun in his hand.
00:00:02.000You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.
00:00:05.000Crashing through the lies and disinformation, it's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
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00:00:33.000I'm David Knight, your host today in Austin on this Sunday, November 23rd, 2014.
00:00:37.000Now we've had Obamacare, we've had Obama phones, and now we're going to have Obama law, it appears, because he's going to do more.
00:00:48.000He has already said, even before he made his executive order, his rule by fiat on illegal immigration, he said he was going to move ahead with climate change as well.
00:00:59.000And he didn't think that the Republican Congress, even with their majority, could stop him.
00:01:05.000Of course, what he really should have said is that they don't have the will to stop him.
00:01:10.000We're going to take a look at the true consequences of what he's done, and we're also going to look at the reactions to it from the GOP.
00:01:18.000As they go on vacation and go home, they've had some in their number get on and make some kind of, I think, very weak suggestions.
00:01:27.000Sadly, even Pat Buchanan on the Sunday Show talked about how what Obama did is an impeachable act, and then he goes on to say that we shouldn't impeach him.
00:02:19.000It was a young man who was, yeah, Cleveland, Ohio.
00:02:23.000A young man, a 12-year-old, was shot because he had a BB gun in his hand.
00:02:26.000So we're going to take a look at that.
00:02:27.000That may not be an unjustified shooting, depending on how this came down.
00:02:33.000And at first it looked like the police were going to stonewall people like they did in Ferguson, but then they came out with an explanation.
00:02:37.000But then there was something far more troubling that happened this weekend in New York.
00:02:41.000A man walking up stairways in a projects building that was being patrolled by the police.
00:03:07.000But in related information this week, we had someone who was a whistleblower in the police department claiming that the police commissioner had essentially fudged the data on excessive force, essentially doing a Gruber.
00:03:23.000I think we need to take Jonathan Gruber's experience.
00:03:27.000I think we need to make a verb out of him.
00:03:29.000So we're going to take a look at that.
00:03:31.000And also in some news, we've got another secret order from Obama.
00:03:40.000He hasn't talked about that executive order, but that's going to have some big consequences.
00:03:44.000Something else being done in secret, of course, although it's been reported many times how those in upper echelons of power have been involved in pedophile rings in both the United States as well as in Britain.
00:04:12.000We also have a Texas representative who's introduced a bill to nullify all federal gun control regulations within the state of Texas if they conflict With the plain writing of the Second Amendment.
00:04:24.000That is a rightful way, I believe, for us to stand this down.
00:04:27.000I don't think we're going to find some Mr. Smith who's going to go to Washington and fix everything for us in a filibuster.
00:04:33.000I think the problem is too large, the power is too concentrated, the corruption is too great in Washington to really even be handled within Washington.
00:04:42.000I think anybody that goes into that black hole is essentially sucked into it.
00:04:45.000We're going to have to shut it down from the outside.
00:04:48.000Fortunately, there are constitutional remedies for it.
00:04:50.000It remains to be seen if the people and their elected representatives at the state and local level have the guts and the backbone to do something about it.
00:04:56.000So we're going to talk about that when we come back.
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00:06:38.000We're going to be looking at Obama law today.
00:06:40.000We're going to look at the new way that business is going to be done, the consequences of it, both legally, economically.
00:06:48.000Many different ways that what Obama did is going to ripple through our country, and there's a lot of reactions from it, both from the GOP as well as from the press, the public.
00:06:58.000We want to get your reactions and your solutions to it.
00:07:01.000But before we turn to that subject, I want to go over some of the breaking news today that's up on Infowars.com.
00:07:14.000Only thing different about that is that he's not talking about it, okay?
00:07:17.000He signed yet another executive order that's going to expand the United States' direct comrade role in Afghanistan throughout 2015, reports the New York Times.
00:07:25.000You can read about that on InfoWars.com.
00:07:27.000Now, understand that there was a lot of reaction to executives taking us into war, keeping us into wars.
00:07:36.000They tried to limit his actions with the War Powers Act, and of course his response was to create Iran-Contra, to do other things like that.
00:07:44.000But they weren't successful in terms of getting control of the executive power to take us to war.
00:07:51.000So we don't have Congress involved in that anymore.
00:07:54.000The declaration of war, the involvement in war, should be something that is done deliberately with the people's elected representatives.
00:08:00.000That's why the legislature was given that responsibility by the founders of this country.
00:08:05.000Now once, of course, you start doing that, once you're involved in a war, decisions need to be made quickly.
00:08:12.000That's why they put the executive in as the chief of that.
00:08:16.000But we need to take that decision very deliberately.
00:08:19.000That's why it's a legislative responsibility.
00:08:22.000In the same way, when you look at this immigration bill, and they first push back and say, well, this has been done before.
00:08:31.000Those were not executive orders done in defiance and as an end run around the Congress.
00:08:38.000Those were implementations of the Congress's bill, the Simpson-Mazzoli Act.
00:08:44.000They basically referenced that bill when they made those executive actions.
00:08:48.000So, in the same way that the Congress was deciding what the immigration policy was going to be then, and then the executive was implementing it with his Attorney General, just like if it was a war that the Congress had constitutionally declared, it would be within the powers of the commander-in-chief to execute that using his staff.
00:09:09.000That was what happened under Reagan and Bush.
00:09:14.000What is happening today is essentially as if the Congress had gotten together and said, do not go into this war, and Obama said, we're going to go anyway.
00:09:22.000I'm tired of waiting for you to declare war, so I'm going to do it on my own.
00:09:26.000And that is essentially what has happened.
00:09:29.000But again, I said before I was going to go into talking about that, I wanted to go over the breaking news here and some things that we will probably hit on later in the day.
00:09:37.000We're going to also be checking with our reporters in Ferguson who are on the ground, Jakari Jackson and Joe Biggs are in Ferguson awaiting that verdict by the grand jury.
00:09:46.000And they're keeping an eye on the tensions that are building there.
00:09:49.000There's some other Cases of excessive police force that have hit this weekend.
00:09:54.000We're also going to be looking at those.
00:09:56.000One in New York that is particularly egregious, although there the police department has gotten out in front of it very quickly and said it was not a justified shooting apparently.
00:10:22.000And at the same time that shooting happened, we have someone who was an analyst with the New York City Police Department, actually looking at their data, looking at the report that the police commissioner filed, talking about excessive force.
00:10:36.000That very issue that is before us in Ferguson, that is involved in this shooting of the man in the stairwell.
00:10:42.000In that report on excessive force in the city of New York, this analyst said that the data was fudged.
00:10:50.000They promptly fired him because he went public with this.
00:10:53.000He complained internally, they didn't do anything, so he went to his friends in the press, and rather than take the criticism, they fired him for it.
00:10:59.000So now he started a lawsuit, began a lawsuit this weekend.
00:11:04.000The issue of the police cooking the data in New York City has come up before.
00:11:10.000In the case of Adrian Schoolcraft, the whistleblower that has been talked about quite a lot, especially by Frank Serpico calling him a lamplighter, that's his Way he characterizes whistleblowers, I think that's a much better way to characterize him actually.
00:11:26.000But in the case of Adrian Schoolcraft, what he saw as a dedicated police officer there, somebody who was an honest cop, his father had been a cop, he was very idealistic.
00:11:37.000He wasn't naive about what can happen in a police department, and that's what Frank Serpico said.
00:11:41.000He said, I didn't come into this naive about what really happens.
00:11:45.000I understand there's good cops, there's bad cops.
00:11:48.000But in both cases, they believe that there was not such inherent systemic corruption.
00:11:54.000They believed that they could blow the whistle on bad practices and actually see something happen.
00:11:58.000In the case of Adrian Schoolcraft, for a couple of years, he recorded conversations secretly, essentially wore a mic on himself, recorded what he was being told to do because they were telling him and other officers to cover up violent crime because they didn't want that to show up.
00:12:16.000They didn't want rape and car theft to show up.
00:12:18.000So when somebody would call the New York police and it would be a car theft, for example, they would say, you know, you really don't want to get involved in this.
00:12:25.000You don't want to fill out all this paperwork.
00:12:27.000It's going to create a lot of trouble for you.
00:12:38.000That's how they got their serious crime down.
00:12:41.000And at the same time, they were telling them to lean very heavily on people for violations that they could get fines for.
00:12:47.000Let's say having unswept hair on your barbershop floor.
00:12:51.000They could come down with you for a couple hundred dollar fine there.
00:12:54.000So they were ramping that up at the same time they were talking down the serious crime.
00:12:59.000He blew the whistle on him, he tried to appeal to people within the system, and instead the number two guy went to his apartment and threatened him, said, we think you're looking kind of like you might take your life or something, so for your own protection we're going to put you into custody.
00:14:30.000Why your bathtub is actually far scarier than Ebola.
00:14:32.000And they'll go through and they'll break down.
00:14:35.000different things like uh... firearm assault they will break that down so that are actually death by car they break down a death by car they have pedestrian struck by motor a motor vehicle uh... struck by a uh... motorcycle struck by motor vehicle bicycle struck by motor vehicle they categorize this data down in different categories so that it looks like they're much smaller and they want to move firearms to the top so they basically break down death by automobile Into multiple categories.
00:15:04.000Understand how they torture the data there?
00:15:06.000And then at the very bottom, they've got Ebola.
00:15:08.000Because we've only had two people die of Ebola.
00:15:11.000So, everything in the world is more dangerous than Ebola, according to the statistics of the Washington Post.
00:15:26.000That's just how the country's run anymore by Obama.
00:15:29.000Well, he's going to allow people from nations who've been hit the hardest by Ebola, where they have the epidemic, to come to the country to stay in this country.
00:15:37.000And of course, we're doing many things that are increasing the risk, and that's the point.
00:15:42.000It isn't that we've only had two people who have died of Ebola in the United States, so therefore, it's not serious.
00:15:50.000It's that they're doing things to increase the risk.
00:15:52.000And the epidemic that's going on in Africa right now is fundamentally different.
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00:21:13.000And actually, we came in with that clip from Ronald Reagan.
00:21:15.000Actually, guys, we need to get a clip of Ronald Reagan back in the day when he would say, I want to balance the budget and I send a budget every year to the House and Tip O'Neill pronounces it dead on arrival and there's nothing I can do about it.
00:21:30.000Remember Democrats that there's one day going to be another Republican president.
00:22:43.000Bush, and George W. Bush all issued executive orders on immigration while they were in the White House.
00:22:48.000Well, the reality of it is, is that Bush and Reagan referenced Simpson Mazzoli.
00:22:54.000The Simpson-Mazzoli bill, which was passed by the Congress, they said the intent of the bill was to unite families.
00:23:02.000So what they did was they extended it in some areas.
00:23:05.000The bill directed the president to have the attorney generals change the status so that they would accomplish different objectives with that.
00:23:13.000But what we saw in the result of the Simpson-Mazzoli Act, as a result of Reagan and Bush implementing that, We saw that it didn't work.
00:23:24.000It only incentivized further illegal immigration.
00:23:28.000We saw that millions of people were granted amnesty under Simpson-Mazzola, and then they realized that the border wasn't closed.
00:23:36.000That they could come in and it would probably happen again, and it is happening again.
00:23:40.000That's one of the reasons why they were blocking him on this.
00:23:44.000But of course he did say one thing that was right.
00:24:01.000You know, I don't always listen to all the commentary, but... But I understand that some of them are already saying that my actions sabotage their ability to pass a bill and make immigration work better.
00:25:12.000He essentially made it redundant by defying the fact that they didn't want that kind of immigration bill.
00:25:19.000It's kind of like what we saw last week.
00:25:21.000I don't know if you saw the article that was up on Infowars.com about J. Edgar Hoover sending threatening letters to Martin Luther King.
00:25:29.000They had been bugging Martin Luther King's personal life and they knew that he was having some affairs so they said we're going to expose you as a hypocrite so for your own good just take your life.
00:26:17.000Those were major issues in this election.
00:26:20.000And he doesn't even Do anything to wait for the elected representatives.
00:26:24.000He just goes on on his own and yet the Republicans reaction has simply been to Come up with a lot of rhetoric and then go on vacation.
00:26:34.000We had this from the Sunday show today We had Patrick Buchanan and the video is linked up on Infowars.com He's on one of the Sunday shows and said rogue Obama's amnesty is an impeachable act.
00:26:45.000Let's play a short clip from that We're also a nation of laws, and we have a constitution.
00:26:50.000And Barack Obama has said, sort of repeatedly, that he did not have the legal or the constitutional authority to issue what is an executive amnesty.
00:27:00.000He is behaving as a rogue president, John.
00:27:03.000Politically, it may be a very clever move.
00:27:05.000He's dividing the Republicans, no doubt about it.
00:27:07.000He's sticking it into their face after their victory.
00:27:10.000He's saying, I'm going to do what I want to do, and now you pass your bill.
00:27:13.000Impeachable act, but they should not impeach him.
00:27:51.000Why would they stand on that principle for their corporate sponsors, and yet they won't stand on principle for the American public, for the voters.
00:28:08.000This is the Weekly Standard, and I think for this we ought to actually spell it W-E-A-K, Weekly Standard, How to Rebuke a President.
00:28:17.000If you look at their article on the Weekly Standard, they've got Obama and some stocks and they've got written over it the word censure.
00:28:27.000Basically saying that what they ought to do is they ought to vote to censure him.
00:28:31.000I'm sure that would scare him to death.
00:28:33.000I'm sure that would rebuke him in a way that he would never do this again.
00:28:36.000And then of course we have this from North Dakota.
00:28:39.000The Republicans have gotten together and they've named a landfill after Obama.
00:28:44.000They said that they didn't think that they would be able to get this through, but they thought naming a pile of garbage after Obama was a fitting tribute.
00:28:52.000Well, that's great, you know, but I think it's time we stop the name-calling and we put him on the rubbish heap of history for real.
00:28:58.000Let's impeach this guy, because if we don't, we're going to have a long string of dictators from every party, and that is why the GOP doesn't want to do it.
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00:34:48.000He's increasing the rules of engagement there.
00:34:50.000At the same time, he's telling people that they're shutting down the war in Afghanistan.
00:34:53.000And of course, he's also said, right after the election, that he was going to move forward with his agenda on climate change.
00:34:59.000And of course, that means taxing all of our energy, shutting down our power plants.
00:35:04.000That's what he's going to do in response to global warming, even as we see record low temperatures throughout the nation.
00:35:13.000And of course we have seen globally that the temperatures have not risen according to their models that say that it was dependent on a rise in CO2.
00:36:12.000Well, the simple fact of the matter is that climate change is merely a beard for them to control our energy usage.
00:36:21.000So we're going to see it not only there, we also see it in the immunity executive order that he granted to corporations who are going to bring back Ebola.
00:36:28.000We see it with the open immigration for people coming from Ebola countries, allowed to come in, allowed to stay, even to the extent we had this article that came out the end of last week.
00:36:39.000New rules from DHS, Department of Homeland Security.
00:36:42.000Drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders are not a top deportation priority.
00:37:04.000Is somebody coming here and actually criticizing the government, opposing the government, because that would be a danger to national security.
00:37:13.000Whenever you hear this, that it's going to be a danger to national security, look at the story that's up on Infowars.com today in Great Britain.
00:37:22.000Protecting pedophile politicians is a matter of, quote, national security.
00:37:27.000Subtitle is, those with the sickest minds understand that they can most easily get away with their deeds if they are protected by an aura of power and ostensible respectability.
00:37:39.000But that's how they justify every infringement upon us is In the name of national security.
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00:39:40.000So... Yeah, it's been around quite a long time, hasn't it?
00:39:43.000And of course, we carry a very good book.
00:39:46.000Carol Quigley's book that we have here at InfoWars.com really does lay out their plan.
00:39:49.000It's not like they've kept it a secret.
00:39:51.000It's just that people can't believe they would actually do it.
00:39:54.000Just like you look at this headline, you can't actually believe That you would have the British government covering up for pedophiles in Westminster.
00:40:05.000People just can't imagine that there would be people that would actually do that.
00:40:08.000And yet, at the same time, they actually had a group there that was lobbying for pedophilia.
00:40:13.000Trying to reduce the age of consent to four years old.
00:40:20.000A normal person doesn't understand these things.
00:40:22.000And just like you're talking about, the global elite, they've been laying this out for a very long time, but people are reluctant to believe that that's really what they plan on doing.
00:40:30.000We won't take them at their word, will we?
00:40:32.000What we have to do, David, and everybody in the audience, we have to really focus on the fact that there's a fellow Britisher by the name of David Merlin, TakeFromCaesar.us.
00:40:54.000We have to learn how to legally, lawfully stop funding the corrupt, rogue, federal, central government.
00:41:05.000And let's not forget, Ralph Nader, and remember Fritz Haaland, U.S.
00:41:10.000Senator, he's from North Carolina, this fine gentleman.
00:41:14.000What they said in 2004 was that the United States government authorized the war in Iraq to secure the interests of Israel, and they said that Israel's AIPAC and other, primarily AIPAC, and by the way, the same year, 2004, The FBI concluded a long term investigation that AIPAC is a 64,000 member...
00:41:42.000I want to get people's reaction primarily to the Obama.
00:41:45.000I agree with what you're saying and we have a situation where if a president can go to war whenever they feel like it without Congress, without the will of the people, that was established essentially because the passivity of the Congress.
00:41:58.000Now we're establishing that they can make all kinds of massive changes to our society.
00:42:06.000We're going to move on to Pissed Off America next, but I want to see if any of you out there have an idea of how we stop this because you know the Republicans have just gone home.
00:42:26.000Because it's in their political interest not to make an issue out of it.
00:42:30.000They think they're going to get political pushback from people because they tried once and failed with Bill Clinton to impeach him, so they're reluctant to do that again.
00:42:38.000And yet, if we allow this to be established as a precedent, it's going to take down our entire society.
00:42:45.000The economy is going to go down with just this action, let alone his executive actions on climate change.
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00:48:38.000If he wants to take this car analogy, yeah, we got a few dings on the car.
00:48:42.000We've had a whole succession of people take our classic car, the Constitution, the American form of government.
00:48:48.000It's like a classic car, and they've repeatedly wrecked it.
00:48:52.000And now we've just been rear-ended by a drunk illegal alien.
00:48:56.000And we've let a skunk loose inside of it and sprayed all over the interior.
00:48:59.000That's what the real analogy is here with this.
00:49:02.000We're going to put Hillary behind the wheel?
00:49:04.000Yeah, I guess it was her husband that was driving the car around and picking up chicks, but I don't know.
00:49:11.000I don't think that that's going to happen, but we'll have to see because, you know, quite frankly, what are we going to do with the Republicans?
00:49:16.000They're content to complain about this and not do anything.
00:49:20.000If they don't have any ideas about how they're going to do their job, if they don't understand what it means to be a congressman, if they don't understand that it's Congress that passes the law, And if another branch of government takes that over, acts unilaterally, acts illegally, acts imperially, that they can't get the will to impeach that president, they don't need to be in Congress.
00:49:57.000I want to go to some of the callers that are here.
00:49:59.000Of course, I didn't make it clear at the very beginning that I just wanted calls about the new Obama laws that we're getting, one after the other, with executive orders.
00:51:00.000Of course, we're going to have our reporters joining us in the second hour, at the bottom of the second hour, from Ferguson, Missouri, as we're awaiting the verdict of the grand jury there.
00:51:09.000That's the sad thing about this, as Paul Joseph Watson was saying when he co-hosted at the end of the week.
00:51:14.000They always go into the ambiguous situations and they let this narrative at Ferguson go for quite some time before they put out any exculpatory evidence that would clear the officer there.
00:51:24.000It's as if they were trying to build up tension between the community and the police and then of course you've got Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson come in to divide the population between white and black.
00:51:35.000We really do need to do something about the rules of engagement of the police, about the excessive force which is becoming an epidemic.
00:51:43.000Everybody is beginning to notice this.
00:51:44.000It is not something that just affects the black community.
00:51:47.000They're affected in a disproportionate amount, but we need to have that discussion.
00:51:55.000Frank Ciprico has come up with some suggestions.
00:51:57.000Other people have had suggestions about this, and yet we get caught up into, they move the narrative into white against black, or the entire community against the police.
00:52:07.000That's not Going to produce any effective change.
00:52:19.000Hey, you know, my opinion is that the Republicans do not want to roll this thing back and stop Obama because you're in cowhoots to the Chamber of Commerce.
00:52:43.000What we really need is a third party, and not a libertarian party, because I don't think a libertarian party is really going to get the majority vote.
00:52:50.000I think we need a populist party, a constitutional populist party that would take the best ideas available for this country and its people.
00:52:59.000And I think they could roll in to the next election and then, I mean, win by a landslide.
00:53:05.000Well, you know, the problem is I've worked with third parties, and they have really stacked the system against third parties, against independents.
00:53:14.000Whether it's the Libertarian Party, or whether it's the Reform Party, or whether it's an independent, they make it very difficult, A, to get on the ballot.
00:53:20.000They make it virtually impossible to get into the debates.
00:53:23.000Look at what they did in the Republican primaries in just the last election.
00:53:26.000Of course, in 2008, they kept Ron Paul out of the debates repeatedly.
00:53:30.000In the last series of primaries leading up to 2012, they had a two-term governor in Gary Johnson.
00:53:35.000Whether you agree with him or not, the guy was a serious candidate.
00:53:39.000He had been elected twice in a predominantly Democrat state as Republican.
00:53:43.000He had been elected by a larger majority in the second time, and yet they did not allow him in most of the debate.
00:53:51.000So he eventually just dropped out of the Republican primary and ran as a libertarian, because the Libertarian Party has had a lot of experience getting on the ballot in the states.
00:54:00.000They know what the drill is, and they're geared towards that, but they have to expend a tremendous amount of energy and resources to just get on the ballot.
00:54:11.000Then they're excluded from the debates.
00:54:13.000And then of course there's the issue that they don't get any coverage in the mainstream media because the mainstream media is literally making billions now off of the Republicans and the Democrats.
00:54:23.000So they put these requirements on all the other parties there.
00:54:27.000I think where the opening is, is really at local levels.
00:54:32.000I don't think we're going to get anybody, even if we got a great guy, an honest guy, to go do battle in Washington.
00:54:38.000I think there is a gigantic bureaucracy there.
00:54:42.000There's a lot of massive inertia to turn that ship of state around.
00:54:46.000I think we need to block it at all the 50 states.
00:54:51.000I think we need to start shutting it down from the outside.
00:54:55.000I don't think it can be changed from the inside in.
00:54:57.000I don't think we can send a Mr. Smith to Washington to fix everything.
00:55:00.000I think it needs to be blocked from the outside.
00:55:02.000And there we got up there on the monitor John Boehner.
00:55:49.000Those are the people Who have been the reliable supporters of the Democrats.
00:55:54.000And there was an article about emerging Republicans in the Rust Belt.
00:55:58.000I think people are starting to wake up and understand that they've been betrayed by the Democrat Party on that issue.
00:56:04.000But of course, the Republican Party betrays us on so many issues as well.
00:56:08.000When you look at the fact that they have passed the Keystone Pipeline Bill nine times, Republicans have, if they wanted to do something to constrain Obama, they could, but they won't do it.
00:56:33.000You know, I want to talk about impeaching him because you listen to all the media and they keep Structuring the debate around the merits of what he's done.
00:57:21.000They say, Obama's wrong way to do the right thing.
00:57:24.000And that's unusual, because like you said, most of them are just focusing on, hey, it was the right thing, so let's forget about how it was done.
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01:00:26.000I'm taking your calls, your reactions to our new Obama law, and apparently the new way that we're going to do business in Washington because the Republicans are not doing anything about it.
01:00:46.000We were unable to get a hold of him, but it was the editorial board of USA Today that said Obama's wrong way to do the right thing in their view.
01:00:55.000I don't think it was the right thing to do.
01:01:09.000They said, this is the editorial board of USA Today, different from most of the mainstream media, and they say his plan amounts to executive overreach.
01:01:55.000That's essentially the argument that Obama has put in.
01:01:58.000They point out, more than a dozen times earlier in his presidency, actually Rand Paul said it was 22 times, according to his count, he told those who are pushing for such an order that he couldn't possibly sign one.
01:02:08.000He went before La Raza, the racist Hispanic group, and said, believe me, the idea of doing things on my own is very tempting, I promise you.
01:02:21.000But that's not how our system works, said Obama.
01:02:24.000That's not how our democracy functions, says Obama.
01:02:27.000That's not how our Constitution is written.
01:02:30.000And they go on to say that going forward, if Democrats want to have their way on immigration issues, they should win more Congressional elections.
01:02:38.000Well, evidently they don't need to, because they can just bypass Congress and do whatever they want to with somebody in the White House who has their agenda.
01:03:04.000The Truth Raider only goes by facts and figures that I can prove.
01:03:09.000This has been planned a long time ago in their agenda.
01:03:13.000This goes back to the Council of Churches, the Jesuit Order, it goes through all the corporations, and this is what's going on.
01:03:20.000Those people in power and in those positions are very upset with the traditional American people who've worked all their lives, been successful and made money in this country and have built this country, have gotten fed up and they're leaving the sinking ship.
01:04:11.000And they said that Putin has come out and said that ruble-yen settlements will cut energy sales in U.S. dollars.
01:04:18.000In other words, it's a way to move America down out of the lifestyle that has been supported by our fiat currency that doesn't have anything essentially backing it.
01:04:29.000Once they switch, as they point out, settlements in domestic currencies in those countries, they can largely contribute to balancing the global economy by reducing the impact of the dollar.
01:04:39.000In other words, by reducing your purchasing power if you're an American.
01:04:44.000That's one of the many ways that we are going to suffer under these economic policies.
01:04:49.000And of course, this massive immigration move is one way to take down our country economically.
01:04:56.000It's going to mean that we are never going to get away from crushing unfunded liabilities.
01:05:01.000Stay with us, we're going to be right back with more of your calls.
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01:07:19.000I'm David Knight in Austin taking your calls and just before the top of the hour we had a caller, he called in talking about impeachment.
01:07:26.000I went to this editorial board from USA Today saying that Obama has done the right thing the wrong way.
01:07:33.000I don't think he did the right thing but he certainly did it the wrong way.
01:07:36.000They said what he has done amounts to executive overreach.
01:07:41.000And as Rand Paul has pointed out, 22 times Obama said he did not have the power to just bypass Congress.
01:07:50.000Here's one of the times that he actually said it at La Raza, the group that has made the race the basis for immigration policy, doing things to favor the Hispanic race.
01:08:26.000That's not how our democracy functions.
01:08:29.000That's not how our Constitution is written.
01:08:32.000There you go and he says it's very tempting on a number of things and of course he's already signaled that on a number of things on something that is also going to have major transformational effects on our country in terms of climate change regulation and that's essentially going to be cap-and-trade it's going to be shutting down energy plants it's going to be a massive restructuring I would say a gutting of our economy he says he's going to move along with that regardless of what the Congress does regardless of their new majority he doesn't think they can
01:09:06.000You wanted to make a comment about impeachment because, of course, Pat Buchanan says, what Obama has done is an impeachable offense, but we shouldn't impeach him.
01:10:57.000I think that when you allow a crime to occur, I think you become an accessory to that crime when you help to cover it up and to give the criminal protection.
01:11:08.000I do, and you know, but the thing is, Politically, if we take action now and try and reverse what he's done, that's going to be really bad for the Republicans.
01:11:21.000But you know, I'm far more concerned about the dangers of Yes.
01:11:29.000What that can lead to, that's far more dangerous than the threat that the illegals here pose to us.
01:11:36.000So I say we welcome him, all the illegals, based on, you know, we just accept what this president has done and we move on with it.
01:11:54.000It's far more important what happens in this country.
01:11:57.000It's far more important the legal precedents that are being set in our Constitution.
01:12:01.000That is far more important than the GOP's little political careers.
01:12:05.000And if they cared about this country more than they care about their political careers, they would do the right thing.
01:12:12.000And what they do when they say that they're not going to, it's the right thing to impeach him, but we're not going to do it because the voters will be angry with us in the next election.
01:12:20.000What they're essentially saying is, is that they have no character.
01:12:25.000They're simply political whores who want to stay in office forever and collect all the cash and benefits.
01:12:32.000And that's what the GOP is really about.
01:12:34.000Let's take a quick look, thank you JP and Minnesota, let's take a quick look again at this The changing rules for illegal immigrants as reported by the Washington Examiner.
01:12:45.000The new Department of Homeland Security rules under policies for the apprehension, detention and removal of undocumented immigrants says that they're not really concerned about people that are committing offenses like drunk drivers or sex abusers or drug dealers or gun offenders.
01:13:04.000Anybody that's doing that, that's not really a top priority for them to deport.
01:13:08.000And they point out in this article that an illegal immigrant could spend up to one year in prison for a violent crime and still not be a top removal priority for the Obama administration.
01:13:18.000They don't even want to deport criminals.
01:13:21.000Of course, it's a criminal action to violate our immigration policies.
01:13:26.000But we can't deport them for that, but we can't even deport them for violent crime, for sex abuse, for drunk driving.
01:13:36.000John Bowne had a report about someone who was murdered in Oregon by a guy who repeatedly had had contact with the authorities and repeatedly was given a pass to stay in this country.
01:13:48.000A convenience store confrontation ended in tragedy after a man suspected of being in the country illegally approached and stabbed a college football player to death.
01:13:57.000Police in McMinnville, Oregon are still baffled as to why 33-year-old Juventino Bermudez-Arenas Attacked 20-year-old Linfield College student Parker Moore after entering a 7-Eleven convenience store last Saturday night.
01:14:12.000Police, however, say when Bermudez-Arenas went back to the store, he allegedly refused orders to drop a knife in his possession, prompting police to open fire on him, killing him dead.
01:14:22.000Bermudez-Arenas' family is also puzzled as to why he might have carried out the violent attack, as he reportedly did not have mental health issues, used drugs or drink, and was not involved in gang activity.
01:14:35.000Yesterday, investigators revealed Bermudez-Arenas was likely living in the U.S.
01:14:39.000illegally, though he'd worked in the country since at least the year 2000.
01:14:44.000During a previous run-in with the law, he had given police a variation of his name, Juan Antino Bermudez.
01:14:50.000Police say there is no connection between Moore and his assailant and that the attack appeared to be random.
01:14:55.000Moore was a college student majoring in business management.
01:14:58.000He was also a resident advisor and linebacker with the Linfield Wildcats, which just proceeded to the NCAA Division III playoffs after a shutout victory on Saturday.
01:15:13.000Three factors that are really hard to find when recruiting guys.
01:15:17.000And every coach that we had on our staff fell in love with Parker the minute we met him.
01:15:23.000An investigation into the incident is still ongoing.
01:15:26.000It is not clear if Bermudez-Arenas had ever come into contact with federal immigration agencies.
01:15:32.000In fact, we're just beginning to recognize how much pain there is.
01:15:36.000InfoWars.com Okay, that was John Bowne's report on yet another murderer by someone who's had multiple contacts with the government, multiple criminal contacts with the government, yet was never deported, and ultimately it wound up with the death of an American football player, college student, in Oregon.
01:16:00.000We're going to be right back with your calls.
01:16:01.000We're going to take Michelle in Florida, Marion in Michigan, and another Michelle, Michael, Michael in Florida, and Michelle.
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01:21:00.000Of course, there's a couple of articles that you'll want to check out on Infowars.com.
01:21:04.000There's an excellent Article, you sold out our nation, a scathing letter to President Obama.
01:21:09.000What you actually said to the citizens of this great nation, says the letter, is that you are an imperial king and you don't care what we, the people, want.
01:21:17.000And of course the fallout isn't just from the editorial board, let's say, of the USA Today.
01:21:23.000Saying that what he has done amounts to executive overreach, and if the Democrats want to have their way on immigration issues, they should win more congressional elections.
01:21:30.000We've also got Saturday Night Live spoofing the president.
01:21:33.000They took the idea of Schoolhouse Rock, where they talk about how a bill becomes law, and they've got a guy dressed up like a bill, and if you're watching this, you can see the picture here.
01:21:45.000He actually kicks the congressional bill down the hill, and then he's got standing next to him A thing that looks like a bill that says executive order and the guy's just kicking back, smoking a cigarette like, this is fine.
01:21:57.000And he says, the guy in the middle talks about what's actually in the executive order and the executive order says, what?
01:22:02.000And he actually pulls his head back in and looks in his armpit and he goes, oh, that's terrible.
01:22:33.000Obama's executive action will finish off America.
01:22:37.000He says Obama's unconstitutional executive action to shield millions of undocumented immigrants, as the New York Times puts it, is a brazen effort to further impoverish the American middle class and convert the country into a third world wasteland.
01:22:50.000One of these is Neil Monroe's article in the Daily Caller from Thursday, talking about how illegals will receive huge payments throughout the entitlement system.
01:22:59.000He points out that 47% of legal and illegal immigrants coming into this country and their children are classified as living at the poverty line or below the poverty line, which means that when they file their income tax payments, they will be eligible.
01:23:12.000He says a family of two kids, an income of $20,000 would receive $14,500 in earned income tax credits.
01:23:23.000That's not even the biggest part of the Cloward and Piven strategy.
01:23:28.000And many people don't understand what Cloward and Piven is.
01:23:31.000They're a couple of sociologists who were socialists.
01:23:34.000They wanted to tear this country down so they could rebuild their socialist utopia.
01:23:39.000The same way that you see the character And Captain America, the most recent one, the Winter Soldier, say we have to destroy America and then rebuild it the way we want it done.
01:23:48.000That was what Cloward and Piven, as social engineers, suggested back in the 1960s.
01:23:53.000And the way they said to do it was to create a massive entitlement state that could no longer be supported.
01:24:01.000And that's one way that it's going to happen.
01:24:03.000But a bigger way that it's going to happen is with local taxes.
01:24:08.000About 80% of your taxes are going to go to pay for schools, for building new schools, as this is rapidly ramping up, as we're importing everyone from any place in the world that wants to come live here in America.
01:24:24.000These are massive, unfunded liabilities, and some of the states that have the Biggest unfunded liabilities, the biggest walls of debt, as they put it, are the ones who are the most supportive of giving out more free benefits to people that want to move into this country, to get the free benefits at the expense of the middle class and at the expense of the jobs for blue-collar workers.
01:24:49.000Now, earlier this year, Bloomberg was talking about California's $600 billion sinkhole.
01:24:54.000We had the San Jose Mercury talking about California's wall of debt as only a slice of its liability problem.
01:25:01.000And yet, just before the election, California was launching a student loan program for illegals.
01:25:08.000So it doesn't matter how far in debt they are, they're still going to go farther and farther in debt.
01:25:12.000Now, of course, you're going to be paying for that predominantly out of your homeowners' taxes, okay?
01:25:19.000You're not going to your property taxes.
01:26:21.000It's just that I feel like the Republican Party won't do anything.
01:26:27.000I mean, I saw two things that happened.
01:26:28.000Right after his speech, I mean, during his speech, he felt to me, it felt like he was very confident that no impeachment was coming.
01:26:36.000And then that Friday, it was two things that was just like, I haven't really heard nobody talk about was the fact that all of a sudden Lois Lerner emails got found.
01:26:44.000And then the other thing was the Benghazi report comes out and there's no crime.
01:26:49.000And my thing is, I feel like there's been a deal that's been struck, basically saying, hey, they won't impeach him.
01:26:57.000You basically going to give him cover.
01:26:59.000And then they revealed this stuff here and everything underneath the rug.
01:27:02.000I think the only thing that's left, possibly, is that CIA torture report.
01:28:15.000We're not going to see them take any action because they don't want to see these reforms happen.
01:28:21.000Of course, when you look at what happened with Benghazi, as well as with the IRS, weren't those the articles of impeachment against Richard Nixon, that he was using the IRS against his enemies?
01:28:29.000And yet, they've used it to a far greater extent than Nixon ever imagined.
01:28:33.000And of course, there's the issue of the covert wars, and we've seen that happening over and over again in the Obama administration.
01:28:39.000The corruption that Obama has owned is now being owned by the Republicans.
01:28:52.000The GOP's refusal to take action when Obama and his staff do the wrong thing shows that the GOP also approves of that and has become an accomplice, an accessory to the crimes.
01:29:05.000We're gonna be right back with our reporters from Ferguson.
01:29:07.000I'll take a couple more of your calls.
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01:35:00.000Well, I wanted to say racial barriers should have been torn down.
01:35:05.000That way it wouldn't be a useful weapon for the establishment.
01:35:09.000But Obama warned us in the fiscal speech of 2011 that he was going to remove different fundings from the people and give it to the military and science.
01:35:20.000And then a couple years back when he was talking about the fiscal cliff, that was kind of our warning before destruction, kind of.
01:35:35.000Yeah, we haven't seen any decline, have we, in the spending for the military-industrial complex, even though we seem to be talking about a decline.
01:35:42.000Of course, we see the federal deficit just exploding.
01:35:52.000There's going to be a massive implosion of our economy and of course we can see that starting to begin right now as Obama is also revving up the new Cold War.
01:36:03.000We see, as I pointed out earlier, that Russia and China are going around the dollar and directly dealing with each other.
01:36:09.000And once they do that, once that's established by Brazil, Russia, India, China, the BRICS, once they establish that, And move around the petrodollar.
01:36:18.000That's going to have tremendous economic consequences for us, as it will with the blanket amnesty.
01:36:24.000The millions of people that have been brought in as part of an entitlement program.
01:36:30.000He's going to shut down our energy usage in the name of climate change regulation.
01:36:36.000Was there anything else you wanted to say about Ferguson, Michael?
01:36:39.000Uh, yeah, I wanted to say what basically what they're doing is they're gearing up because you remember Obama's mentor, he said he needed a big crisis.
01:36:49.000Basically, he's building up a crisis baton to pass on to the next person.
01:36:55.000But, like you said about solutions earlier, I think the Infowar is the solution and that we should bring lawsuits and investigations and vote on, hey, let's investigate these corrupt officials instead of allowing them to continue to doing a bad job in America.
01:37:34.000I'm standing in the parking lot across from the Target in Ferguson.
01:37:37.000This is the area that back in August they had roped off and they were using for a police compound, a main command center.
01:37:46.000Well, right now, so far, all that is here is a lot of your mainstream media vehicles out here.
01:37:52.000They're doing a lot of broadcasts from the area.
01:37:55.000But the building that we showed you the other day, the vacant lot between the Foot Locker and the Target, has been covered up completely.
01:38:04.000Yesterday, there was a large police presence behind that building.
01:38:08.000And then today, there was a large presence as well earlier.
01:38:11.000So they're definitely starting to move in in mass numbers.
01:38:14.000Last night we saw a larger police presence outside of the police department in Ferguson.
01:38:20.000They were a little bit more well organized because they had a lieutenant who usually doesn't work at this precinct, but he came in and took charge and things were not as violent, but they still are impeding on our First Amendment.
01:38:31.000A journalist last night by the name of Tyler Yinks out of a source in New York, he was arrested for standing on the sidewalk simply just for taking pictures.
01:38:49.000You said it looked like they might have been special ops type of guys or former special ops guys hired as contractors?
01:38:55.000Yes, we were standing outside of the Clayton Justice Center yesterday, Dakar Jackson and I, and we were doing some reports about how they've been barricading up specific buildings in the area.
01:39:04.000Even some of the buildings in that area, some of the businesses went as far as boarding up their windows as well.
01:39:09.000One of the buildings had completely barricaded off their stairwell, so looters, anybody like that couldn't run in.
01:39:16.000When we got done with the report, I was walking back to the vehicle, and I noticed a group of about seven to eight men standing in a large circle, and I'm sitting there thinking, like, these guys got, they have beards, they had the, uh, the, your standard, almost like, your military contractor type uniforms on.
01:39:34.000I started looking closer, they had the American flag patches on.
01:39:37.000A lot of the guys had earpieces in, they all had the Iraqi-Afghanistan scarf, the black and white checkered one that you see the local nationals wear over there.
01:39:46.000And I watched them for a while and it was just very suspicious.
01:39:49.000They all got into three different vehicles and drove off, but it looks like they're going to be staying in that area.
01:39:54.000I kept an eye out for those men around the Ferguson PD last night at the protest.
01:40:00.000I didn't see any, but there was a couple of people who didn't fit in quite so well.
01:40:04.000Some guys that were walking around with backpacks on, I saw one, another streamer saw one as well.
01:40:09.000It was very odd, but you know, they're sending a hundred FBI agents in, there's a thousand more police officers, there's National Guard.
01:40:17.000Right now there's more law enforcement and police officers here than there is overseas in combat right now.
01:40:24.000Maybe that was some guys from the Asymmetric Warfare Group, Joe.
01:40:29.000Hill, where they have built there, as well as in Camp Lejeune, they've built American cities, small towns, rural areas to practice controlling the American public.
01:40:40.000And evidently, they want to get some real experience there in Ferguson, I would imagine.
01:40:47.000Have you seen a lot of uniformed National Guard there?
01:40:50.000I haven't seen any here personally, David, but there's a lot of pictures that are popping up on Twitter and Facebook.
01:40:56.000People have seen them in surrounding areas, and it almost fits in with the picture that I had sent Kit Daniels into the article with the red line where the kettling was going to be involved, where they're going to set up National Guard around the area and then eventually close in on the violence if it breaks out.
01:41:12.000But there hasn't been anything here in the heart of where everything's going on thus far.
01:41:17.000Right now, where you're standing, it looks like it's pretty quiet.
01:41:19.000What's going on with protesters in the area?
01:41:22.000Are they in another area or has that stopped?
01:41:25.000No, there's going to be a protest tonight around 7 p.m.
01:41:29.000It'll be in the Shaw area where there was a killing back in October.
01:41:33.000There's supposed to be a lot of protesters meeting there tonight.
01:41:36.000So it's possible we're going to take a trip down that way.
01:41:38.000It's about 30 minutes away and see what's going to go on out that way.
01:41:41.000Thus far, there hasn't been a lot of police.
01:41:44.000In this area since we got out here in the past 45 minutes, everything seems a little quiet.
01:41:48.000There was a large setup of police off to my left last night and they were driving up and down through the area following protesters around.
01:42:19.000We're hearing that the grand jury will convene one more time on Monday and it's supposed to finish up any last words and then come to a conclusion on what they're going to say.
01:42:29.000And sometime tomorrow we should find out whether or not Officer Darren Wilson will be indicted on these charges.
01:42:36.000So from that point on, things will definitely heat up and we're going to be here bringing up-to-date reports as it happens.
01:42:43.000You know, like I said, there's a thousand extra cops in the area.
01:42:52.000Well, we're going to be talking to Jakari Jackson right after the break, and I want to get his reaction to this story that just happened over the weekend in New York.
01:43:00.000Yet another police shooting of yet another innocent man.
01:43:03.000We'll be right back with Jakari Jackson from Ferguson, Missouri.
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01:47:42.000I'm David Knight, and we have our reporters in Ferguson, Missouri, awaiting the grand jury indictment there, whether it is going to be an indictment or whether they're going to allow the officer to go free.
01:47:52.000We just spoke to Joe Biggs, and now we're going to go to Jakari Jackson to give us his assessment.
01:47:57.000And I want to get Jakari's reaction to what just happened this weekend, a shooting in New York City.
01:49:05.000And then they didn't call for help, didn't call an ambulance, and he died.
01:49:09.000Now, the interesting thing, I think, Jakari, is that, you know, this clearly is, I think, everything that we were told initially had happened in Ferguson with Michael Brown.
01:49:21.000That narrative was allowed to build for quite some time in Ferguson before the Ferguson police came out with some exculpatory evidence that would clear the officer.
01:49:29.000Nevertheless, here, that is not happening.
01:49:32.000Here we had the police commissioner come out right away, and this is what the police commissioner in New York said.
01:49:36.000He said, what happened last night was a very unfortunate tragedy.
01:49:41.000He just happened to be in the hallway.
01:49:43.000He was not engaged in any criminal activity.
01:49:47.000So, basically, he's essentially saying that, hey, you know, this really was a hands-up, don't shoot, except they didn't even get a warning.
01:50:11.000Just in the similarities to the Mike Brown shooting, regardless of what happened with Mike and Officer Darren Wilson, one of the things that people keep harping on out here, and rightfully so, is the amount of time that Mike Brown was left to pretty much bleed out in the street.
01:50:24.000You know, no chance of respiration, no chance of getting to a hospital, and potentially having a contradictory story.
01:50:31.000So it's very alarming to me that these things continue to happen, not just to the people here in Ferguson, Missouri, but all around the country.
01:50:39.000You know, and people are asking me on Twitter, you know, what do you think about these racial shootings and all that?
01:50:43.000And I care just about as much about what happened here in Ferguson as the guy in New York, as Kelly Thomas, who was white, as the young man in Bastrop right outside of Austin who got tased and fell down and busted his head open.
01:51:01.000But they also happen to, you know, white college girls who get arrested for jogging.
01:51:04.000You know, all kinds of craziness going on.
01:51:06.000Oh, you're talking about, you know, a white collar girl, a white girl, remember the video where the officer just comes out of nowhere and does like a body slam and knocks her into a park bench there?
01:51:17.000It was after some type of football game or some type of championship and they were having some type of rally outside.
01:51:22.000And that video is actually in the Cobra intro where the cop just runs up and he hockey checks the girl and flips her backwards over a park bench.
01:51:33.000So we need to have a real discussion about what the legitimate use of force by the police is and what is illegitimate and what is going to be done about it, what kind of oversight they're going to have.
01:51:44.000That is a tremendous problem throughout this country, and it affects everybody, whether they're living in the city or the country, whether they're rich or poor, black or white, it affects everybody.
01:51:54.000And yet, we see this case in Ferguson.
01:51:57.000I believe that it was, they let this thing run for a while, trying to build up tension deliberately.
01:52:02.000Because I think Obama wanted to play the race card in this election and it didn't work.
01:52:07.000Now the other thing that's interesting about this case in New York, to me, is that at the same time this incident happened, about these two cops walking into the stairwell, they see a man accompanied with a woman walking up the stairwell, no orders, nothing, they just pull out a gun, shoot the guy in the chest and kill him, at the same time that happens, We see an analyst filing suit against the New York City Council because there was a report that was put out looking at excessive force in the New York City Police Department.
01:52:36.000It was put out by the same police commissioner who just said basically there was no criminal activity.
01:52:42.000In other words, taking the side of the innocent man who was killed, not trying to talk that down or make any excuses whatsoever for the officer who did that.
01:52:50.000He didn't say anything about the officer as far as I know, but he didn't make any excuses either.
01:52:55.000Nevertheless, he was making excuses a while back.
01:52:58.000There was a report about excessive force, and this analyst who brought it to their attention said, wait a minute, I think you're grubering the data here.
01:53:06.000Although he didn't use that phrase, but essentially the same thing that Jonathan Gruber's doing.
01:53:09.000We can go in, you can massage the data to make it say anything that you want.
01:53:15.000They didn't do anything about it, and so he said essentially, I said, finally, screw it, something needs to be done.
01:53:20.000I contacted my journalist friends and some city council members, and he went public with the information.
01:53:26.000At that point, the New York City Council fired him.
01:53:29.000As a whistleblower, he is now suing them for that.
01:53:34.000And so we see that the police are, even though this is a chronic condition, a chronic situation everywhere, and even though he's been up front about this, I think to try to diffuse things in New York, because if this happens in a stairwell in New York at the same time this Ferguson verdict comes out, and if they let the policemen go there, that's going to be massive riots in New York.
01:53:56.000I don't really believe they want to do anything about excessive force.
01:53:59.000They pick these ambiguous cases, as Paul Watson pointed out, and they avoid really doing anything to change the way it's structured.
01:54:07.000That's exactly right, because the situation is, David, is these things continue to happen, the policies don't change.
01:54:14.000You know, they always want to brush it off as some rogue guy, but you think about the situation that happened in Houston with the schoolgirl who refused to get off her cell phone, cop slammed her to the ground and put a knee in her face.
01:54:24.000You know, and it's the same tactic For you know, some 350-pound guy with a knife as it is for a 90-pound schoolgirl.
01:54:31.000The problem is the tactics, the problem is the training, or lack of training for that matter.
01:54:35.000You send these guys out there and you just let them loose and hope for the best.
01:54:39.000These guys need to be properly trained.
01:54:41.000And to the fact that Joe was speaking on earlier, the policeman who was running the show last night, even though we had some arrests and some other things going on, the officers last night were very much more well-behaved than we had seen them in previous nights.
01:54:55.000And that's due to the proper leadership.
01:54:57.000And a lot of people in the community like that guy who was out there.
01:55:01.000But still, we can't just brush this off and say, okay, we'll burn this guy so we don't have another Ferguson happen here in New York City.
01:55:08.000No, you have to change the policies and let the people know that you are really trying to do something that's in their better interest.
01:55:14.000And I hope that the situation in New York does not turn into something that is merely racial, because of course there are racial overtones to this situation as well, and there is a racial aspect to it.
01:55:25.000But as you pointed out, this is happening to everybody.
01:55:27.000We had the police in New York, remember when they were chasing a suspect in New York, they just fired like nine rounds at him.
01:55:35.000Oh yeah, it wasn't outside of the Empire State Building, it was outside of some building And then they're like, you know, so many people shot, like nine people shot, and the headlines almost made it seem like the guy did the shooting.
01:55:46.000Like, no, the police, it was like that scene from Pulp Fiction, you know, they pull out the guns and shoot everything except the guy.
01:55:52.000It would be funny if it wasn't so serious, and yet...
01:55:55.000You know, that was not racially motivated.
01:55:58.000There has to be something done about the rules of engagement.
01:56:01.000But, you know, they're talking about this situation and immediately you've got a former city councilman in New York put a racial spin on it.
01:56:06.000He goes, so here's an unarmed black 28-year-old in the stairwell.
01:56:10.000Two officers, one Asian, one white, fully armed.
01:56:14.000He winds up dead with a bullet in his chest.
01:56:16.000I want to hear the justification for this one.
01:56:18.000Don't tell me the hallway was dimly lit.
01:56:20.000That's no reason to kill a black man on a stairwell.
01:56:23.000Okay, so there is difference in races between the people, but there has to be rules of engagement, there has to be external oversight of the police to keep this from happening to anyone.
01:56:33.000And the fact that it's happening more frequently to blacks, that's important, but it's not the only thing that matters here.
01:56:38.000It's the rules of engagement and the oversight that something needs to be done about.
01:56:42.000I hope that that's what people are going to push for with Ferguson as well as here in New York.
01:56:47.000Yes, a lot of people we meet out here, you know, there's a diverse crowd, you know, predominantly, we have seen a large group of blacks out there, but there are also white people out there, Asian people out there, people with anonymous masks, you don't know what race they are, but you know, people, they come together in unity, you know, old, young, white, black, whatever.
01:57:07.000We want accountability for these officers and the actions that they take, you know, because so often it's, you know, occasionally they will burn somebody just to put a happy face on it, but we have to have Uh, from the ground up, the top, ground up, top down, whatever it has to be to get these guys in line and also hold them accountable.
01:57:24.000You know, I, for all the accountability we talk about here, we see an officer go F yourself, got fired or suspended or whatever.
01:57:30.000I still haven't heard anything, uh, happen to the guy who was out there aiming a gun at people in the crowd.
01:57:59.000We're going to have our reporters from Ferguson covering it tomorrow.
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