On today's show, Alex Jones is joined by Paul Joseph Watson of the UK to discuss the recent grand jury indictments and the implications for the future of the United States as a nation of laws and a banana republic.
00:00:43.000I'll be your host today, but I'll be joined in the next segment with Paul Joseph Watson from the UK, and we're going to have back on the show Lionel.
00:01:02.000And I think really kind of the theme today is are we going to be a nation of laws or are we going to be a nuclear banana republic?
00:01:11.000Because we've got Jerome Corsi coming on later in the show and he's going to be talking about Obama's amnesty order.
00:01:18.000That was bad enough that he did an executive order just bypassing Congress.
00:01:23.000And of course he admitted to it, we talked about that yesterday, how they tried to walk back his comments when he was being protested by some illegal aliens who were criticizing him for not going farther.
00:01:33.000And he said, I changed the law for you.
00:01:41.000Well, executive orders are not about changing the law.
00:01:45.000Shouldn't be, if we're going to have a democracy.
00:01:47.000Laws originate, of course, in Congress if we're going to have a nation that is run according to the rules, according to the Constitution that they swear to.
00:01:56.000But Jerome Corsi did a little bit of digging, and he found out something very interesting.
00:02:00.000He found that Obama had not even signed his executive order.
00:02:04.000So we've had Obama signing, remember when he signed the NDAA on New Year's Eve?
00:02:09.000And then when everybody, he said he wasn't going to sign it, then he did sign it, then he says, don't worry, I'm not going to enforce indefinite detention by the military without trial, without due process.
00:02:22.000Do you really trust If you trust Obama to do that, if you're a Democrat wholly swallowed up into this false paradigm they got, and you're such a team player that you believe that Barack Obama would never do this, do you really trust the next president who's probably going to be a Republican?
00:02:38.000Do you really trust that guy not to enforce that?
00:02:41.000We've just had the Republican House go in and do what Ron Paul calls a declaration of war, basically passing a resolution criticizing Russia as being aggressive when clearly I think we were behind a lot of the aggression, a lot of the changes that are going on in the Ukraine.
00:02:58.000Very, very reckless, provocative measure there by the House.
00:03:03.000But of course we have a dictator who basically thinks that he doesn't even need to sign his dictates.
00:03:10.000Of course, a dictator is somebody who the law comes out of their mouth, so why would he have to bother to even go through the process of even bothering to sign his executive orders?
00:03:20.000That's the deep contempt that he has for the rule of law.
00:03:24.000And of course, we've also got the U.N.
00:03:28.000An article on New American today says that looks like they're going to declare that that's in effect December 25th.
00:03:35.000That'd be a great day for them to do it while nobody's paying attention.
00:03:37.000They enact the NDAA on New Year's Eve and they enact absolute total gun control over all small arms, all ammunition, all gun parts, totally embargo that, require that the national government Have control over all weapons, set up a national gun control registry?
00:03:58.000When you look at all of these police brutality incidents, when you look at people who are being gunned down in the street over and over again on these videos, who are unarmed, do you really think, do you really think it's a good idea to give the police a monopoly on the use of force?
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00:08:43.000I'll be your host today, but joining me right now is Paul Joseph Watson from the UK.
00:08:48.000As I also point out, we're going to be talking today about the UN Arms Trade Treaty.
00:08:51.000There's an article up on New American saying that they are, the UN is saying that they're going to activate the treaty on December the 25th.
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00:09:01.000They're going to assert control over all weapons, over all small arms, over ammunition, over parts, and they want a gun control registry in every country.
00:09:13.000And of course, as Alex has pointed out, they're also looking to even disarm the police.
00:09:16.000Isn't it a good idea with all the police brutality that we've seen, though, to have a monopoly With government, regardless of which government is, whether it's our federal government, our local government, or the UN, should any of them have a monopoly on force, that's why we recognized the right of citizens to defend themselves against criminals, against criminal governments.
00:09:37.000That is a God-given right, recognized in our Constitution, but they don't really pay too much attention to the Constitution.
00:09:42.000We've got Jerome Corsi, he's going to be joining us in the show today, later in the third hour.
00:09:47.000He realized with his research, he's a researcher that goes down and looks at the original documents and the details, writing for WND, he noticed that this executive amnesty order that Obama put out there, that bypassed Congress, that just granted amnesty according to what they're saying, five million people, we don't know how many people are going to be getting amnesty because of course it's essentially an entitlement program as well as an inducement for people to come into this country illegally.
00:10:16.000But this executive amnesty order from Obama was put out without his signature.
00:10:23.000And he's talked and verified with the National Archives that they have not received any such order with a signature on it.
00:10:29.000So we're going to talk in depth about that with Jerome Corsi.
00:10:33.000And we've got Lionel coming back at the next segment, joining us.
00:10:38.000Paul Joseph Watson wanted to ask him some questions.
00:10:40.000I pretty much dominated the questions yesterday with Lionel, who is a talk show host out of New York.
00:10:46.000He's there at the scene seeing what's happening as well as he has a very important legal background as a former prosecutor and defense attorney.
00:10:52.000So we want to talk to him about the legal process and Paul Joseph Watson has some questions for him.
00:10:57.000And Paul, you were contacted I understand by somebody that's a relative of Michael Brown.
00:11:24.000I was out jogging, decided to do a rant on my iPhone about what we talked about yesterday, which was not making the Michael Brown, the Eric Garner cases all about race, making them about Being focused on police brutality.
00:11:40.000And the point I made was that we have a problem with violence.
00:11:46.000Within the police community, the increased militarization of police forces, treating the American people as the enemy, has created this environment where violence is acceptable.
00:11:57.000And as you see police officers being exonerated for their violence, it only encourages them more.
00:12:03.000I also made the point that there's a problem with violence within the black community.
00:12:08.000Because FBI crime statistics show that black people commit almost the same number of homicides as whites and Hispanics combined, even though they only make up 13% of the population.
00:12:21.000And again, is that because of their skin colour?
00:12:23.000It's because of numerous different factors, socio-economic as well as cultural.
00:12:29.000One of which, I pointed out in the video, is the fact that we have this rap-hip-hop culture which glamorises violence, which of course is promoted predominantly by white-owned entertainment companies, Sony Prime amongst them, we just saw the big hack.
00:12:46.000Of Sony it emerged that, as expected, some ridiculous figure in the high 90% of their owners, the highest paid people in Sony, are white males, Caucasians, and of course their prime amongst the entertainment companies, the music companies, pushing this thug life culture which glamorizes violence.
00:13:05.000So I made all those points in a two minute Facebook video rant.
00:13:10.000I didn't even post it on the websites, but it got something ridiculous like 150,000 views, 5,000 shares.
00:13:17.000And Ty Pruitt, Mike Brown's cousin, saw this and sent me a message about half an hour ago saying, Hey brother, this is Ty Pruitt, Mike Brown's older cousin.
00:13:27.000And I've confirmed it's him, he's given other interviews to CNN.
00:13:30.000I've been saying the same thing in my interviews.
00:13:55.000There were actual segregations of white people White people not being allowed to take part in the protests in Canada and in New York, they were pushed to the edges of the protest by these protest leaders because of their skin color, even though we're all on the same side, or should be, in opposing police brutality.
00:14:14.000Yeah, that's real racism and that's manufactured racism, isn't it?
00:14:18.000And Ty Pruitt, Mike Brown's older cousin, contacted me and said, I've been saying the same thing in my interviews and I'm working on waking black people up to the fact of that subject.
00:14:30.000It's not about race, but keeping us apart gives them all the power.
00:14:35.000So basically he's agreeing with me that By making it about race, we basically turn off half the population of the United States, which is put off by this race baiting, which has been the dominant theme pushed by the media in the aftermath of Ferguson and Eric Garner.
00:14:53.000So, we're going to get him on the show and that's going to be a good interview.
00:14:56.000And of course, making it about race, they're doing that by design because they don't want to have a discussion about excessive force by the police.
00:15:05.000They don't want to have a discussion about the militarization of the police because it's the government that has been doing that.
00:15:10.000It's the government that's been equipping the police, training the police to behave this way.
00:15:15.000And so they don't want to have a discussion about that core issue.
00:15:17.000They want to have a discussion about race.
00:15:19.000Paul, I wanted to bring up this headline we have here on Infowars.com.
00:15:23.000It's a story from the New York Daily News.
00:15:25.000This was at the funeral of the 12-year-old boy who died this last weekend.
00:15:46.000One of the things that really bothers me about both this shooting and the one in Walmart, where you had the man with the, a young man with a BB gun that he was going to buy from Walmart.
00:15:56.000He picked up their merchandise in his hand.
00:15:59.000And you had somebody call the police and say, we've got a guy in the store with a gun pointing it at people.
00:16:04.000So the police show up and treat it as if it's an active shooter, but they don't assess the situation they're professionals if somebody calls you up with a false report are you going to be their killer for them i mean are we going to have people who basically call in lies about people they don't like so they can have the cops kill them for them or the cops going to be trained professionals who come in and assess the situation instead of just coming in and shooting the guy and as you can see that the guy runs around the corner and just shoots him i don't know
00:16:33.000And he's not pointing the gun at anybody, and they don't tell him to drop the gun either.
00:16:38.000And so, when we see something like that happen, when we see something like what happened with this young boy, we've had a lot of people come back and say, you know, the problem is we need to ban toy guns.
00:17:10.000You know, kids with Nerf guns, water pistols, they shut down entire schools in these ridiculous stunts.
00:17:17.000And you mentioned, again, the violence, the militarization.
00:17:21.000If you go on YouTube and search police training, two of the top two videos that come up will illustrate this perfectly, and I'm going to make a video about this.
00:17:31.000One's out of Austin, one's out of Rhode Island.
00:17:34.000And it illustrates perfectly what we said yesterday.
00:17:37.000These police are literally being given military training.
00:17:40.000It shows them being lined up, screamed at by the police chief.
00:17:44.000Basically, they're going on frog marches in military parades.
00:17:49.000They're being trained to beat people up.
00:17:51.000That's the primary focus of the training.
00:17:53.000And obviously, You know, I would support police being physically active, keeping fit and learning self-defense.
00:18:20.000And again, What we were talking about yesterday, the immediate rush to escalate the situation.
00:18:27.000This clip is 48 seconds long because the cop in this instance, this is on private property, he's video recording the cop for his own safety, he's not being aggressive, he's kept well back, and yet instantly the cop rushes over to him and arrests him.
00:18:44.000Yeah, in every single case where people get arrested for video recording police, it's thrown out.
00:18:49.000Even the NYPD came out a few months ago and had to remind everybody that it's completely legal to film police officers and that it's not an arrestable offence.
00:18:59.000Yet we see it happening over and over again.
00:19:01.000And they've lost in court over and over and over again.
00:19:04.000They tried to send a guy in Illinois to jail for like 75 years because he had recorded something.
00:19:10.000They keep losing and yet they do this under color of law.
00:19:12.000And that's what we're going to be talking about later in the show.
00:19:14.000We're going to be talking about how Obama not only does he bypass Congress, but of course he doesn't even bother to sign his executive orders.
00:19:22.000And they've got Congress saying they passed the new NDAA and somebody asked the Democrat, did you read it?
00:19:36.000We have police officers who don't know or don't care what the law is, and they're being hyper-militarized with this training.
00:19:42.000We're about to go to break, but I want to tell everybody, if you didn't see the nightly news last night, Derek McBreen addressed this black and white issue.
00:20:03.000Every night you're going to see the kind of content we saw from Derek McBreen.
00:20:05.000We're probably going to break that out as a separate video.
00:20:07.000We'll be right back with Paul Joseph Watson and with Lionel.
00:20:10.000We're going to be talking about excessive use of police force.
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00:25:02.000Yeah, I just wanted to get Lionel's take on how the media reacted to the Ferguson riots because I was thinking of the situation, you know, imagine if back in April Clive and Bundy had been shot by cops during that standoff and white people or Clive and Bundy supporters in general had reacted by looting and burning down buildings bearing in mind We had Obama meeting with the Ferguson leaders.
00:25:31.000We've got an article on Infowars.com right now.
00:25:33.000Ferguson activists who met Obama face as assault charges.
00:25:37.000He basically assaulted a security guard as he tried to get into City Hall in St.
00:25:43.000So we had Obama meeting with these people.
00:25:46.000We had Time Magazine legitimizing the riots, the looting, the burning down of buildings.
00:25:52.000Now, I don't think the media reaction would have been In the same context, if that situation was reversed and somebody like Clive and Bundy had been shot and his supporters had reacted in the same way that some of the people in Ferguson did.
00:26:08.000So, Lionel, I mean, you're a prosecutor but obviously you also study media narratives, so what's your take on what I just said there?
00:26:16.000Well, I have been in the media, and Paul, let me just say something to you, sir.
00:26:48.000You know, Paul, you and David, but Paul in particular, I believe, brought up the notion of there is an inherent systemic problem with this mentality of a lot of police departments that push this militarization.
00:27:45.000So there is this inherent tutorial That's part of it.
00:27:51.000But Paul, don't you understand when you post these reviews, these scholarly approaches, pointing out the discrepancies and how black violence versus white really isn't true?
00:28:32.000You have to be able to handle years ago, there was a guy on Ed Sullivan, this guy with a stick who would spin the plate and another plate and another plate.
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00:35:22.000I think it's really, excuse me, very much like a red herring.
00:35:28.000And of course, Paul can correct me if I'm wrong, but back in the UK they banned, I believe, fox hunting now.
00:35:34.000But before they did that, the people who didn't like fox hunting would throw the dogs off of the trail by taking a particularly smelly fish, a red herring, and dragging it behind the trail of the fox.
00:35:48.000So once the dogs hit that spot, that was it.
00:35:53.000And so now we've got this particularly stinky thing that we've got a long history about, racism, and they trot that out every time to get us off of the trail of the real fox, which is excessive use of force, the way they're training the police, the rules of engagement that they're giving them, even having them call us civilians.
00:36:11.000And of course, that's something that's been programmed for a very long time.
00:36:14.000Even going back to Dirty Harry movie, that's the first time I noticed it.
00:36:18.000I was in a Dirty Harry movie when I was a kid, calling people civilians.
00:36:21.000I thought that's kind of funny, but it's not funny anymore.
00:36:41.000Lost friends over supporting the grand jury decision in the Brown case, got death threats over it.
00:36:47.000Because I looked at the evidence that was publicly available, the three autopsies, the eyewitness reports, the eyewitnesses that changed their statements after the autopsies came out, which I thought was crucial, and the threatening behaviour towards eyewitnesses before the grand jury investigation even began that came out in the police reports.
00:37:08.000So I just wanted Lionel, from his legal perspective, To break down from the evidence that's available and ask him if he agreed with the conclusion of the grand jury in the Michael Brown case.
00:38:11.000Let's have a civil case, a civil jury.
00:38:14.000Now, we're looking at whether money damages should be awarded to the Michael Brown family or the Eric Garner family based upon police negligence.
00:38:28.000I would say that's more reasonable, but given the fact that this civil case in the Trayvon Martin example remains open and seems to be going nowhere, it seems the federal government isn't that interested in pursuing it, either in the Trayvon Martin case or the Brown case.
00:38:44.000Now the civil case, in our system, as you know, for example, in this case, you have a number of different tribunals.
00:39:15.000Remember, the state of New York versus, in a civil case, it's the family of Eric Garner versus Officer Pantaleo, the city of New York, the state of New York, whatever.
00:39:43.000An administrative hearing, which we don't hear about.
00:39:46.000Officer Pantaleo in the Eric Garner case may be bounced from the roles of the New York City Police Department because he violated a rule and an administrative rule they had about, quote, chokeholds, which I submit it wasn't.
00:40:57.000In a case where he has been, people of Staten Island called the police and said, listen, this guy Eric Garner, and by the way, have you noticed that whenever you talk about Eric Garner, you always have to say, it's a tragedy.
00:43:12.000Well I think the issue is not that they arrested him over a trivial nonsense law that I don't agree with, but nevertheless he was breaking the law, they had the duty to arrest him, they had the duty to protect the fellow officers, but when they Have him down on the ground.
00:43:29.000It doesn't appear that their life is in danger.
00:43:31.000And he's telling them he can't breathe, and they're standing on his head.
00:43:35.000To me, that looks like what they did to Kelly Thomas, where they beat him to death over a long period of time.
00:43:40.000He might have been somebody that needed to be arrested because he was a mental case, but to do that to somebody, that says there's something else going on.
00:43:48.000When somebody breaks into my house, I can shoot them if they're coming at me, but if they're running away, I don't have the right to shoot them in the back.
00:43:54.000Kelly Thomas, the schizophrenic homeless man who was beaten, is different because they weren't beating him.
00:44:00.000Now, in this case, we look at this video, by the way, jump cuts and edited parts removed.
00:44:06.000If we look at this, I might say, you know what?
00:46:29.000So, depending upon which forum, and I hate to keep being, I don't want to sound pedantic here, but there were wrongdoings.
00:46:38.000Now, let me ask you, Paul and David, did you see anything that indicated that Mr. Garner was the topic or the subject or the target of prosecution because he was black?
00:46:59.000Is there anything to indicate that his civil rights specifically, not that he was arrested or arrested poorly, but that he was targeted because of his rights?
00:47:14.000I think he was targeted because he was doing something that you're not going to find most people who are not poor.
00:47:21.000I think it was really more of an issue of him being poor and thinking he's going to do something that's in a black market area to try to do this.
00:47:26.000But, you know, when you're talking about civil suits, let me ask you this, Lionel.
00:47:31.000There doesn't seem to be any penalty involved for the police individuals in these cases, certainly not for the police department.
00:47:39.000You know, if they win a $75 million lawsuit, as you pointed out, that gets passed along to the taxpayers.
00:47:46.000Just like you said yesterday, in some states there's an automatic indictment for some crimes.
00:47:52.000If it's a felony, they don't even need to have a grand jury.
00:47:57.000I think that's something that would be a good reform that we immediately, if there's a death involved with police, it ought to automatically go to a trial.
00:48:06.000But when we have a civil case and there's money taken out, It seems to me if we're going to try to achieve some kind of systemic reform, there has to be a penalty that the system pays, that the police department has something taken out of their budget, at least a huge percentage of that fine that's going to come out comes out of the police department budget or something like that to try to make them reform, put some pressure on them.
00:48:53.000But in this case, though, let's go back.
00:48:56.000There was a police officer years ago, Officer Francis Lavodi, who did federal time because he basically went and choked out this guy who gave him some lip.
00:49:09.000So what I'm saying right now is, once this meme gets started, once we look at this case, people will say, this will have to be our Case, our case, we're going to make all the changes on.
00:49:24.000I kind of alluded to something last night.
00:49:27.000I've never heard or seen the amount of helicopters and drones.
00:49:32.000I don't know if I'm seeing things, but we saw some stuff flying around that was most unique.
00:49:39.000Now, tonight is going to be probably the last night.
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00:54:23.000We have Paul Joseph Watson in the UK joining us in this last segment, and also Lionel in New York.
00:54:29.000And I've had several people hand this, come through and hand this to me, so I need to point this out.
00:54:35.000There's an article that's up on Infowars.com.
00:54:37.000The entire racism narrative that we've been talking about, how they've spun this away from what really needs to be talked about, which is how do we reform the way the police are conducting themselves towards the public.
00:54:48.000That entire racism narrative is put in to stop that discussion.
00:54:51.000But that falls apart when you look at the fact that what happened to Eric Garner was supervised by an African-American female New York City Police Department sergeant.
00:55:03.000So Obama's solutions of cameras to record everything, that's not going to change anything.
00:55:08.000Obama's solution of having racial quotas in police departments that are mandated or controlled from Washington, that's not going to change anything.
00:55:17.000But I want to go back to Lionel while we've got him.
00:55:19.000Lionel, there was also another police shooting just this last weekend.
00:55:22.000Of course, Mr. Gurley, who was killed in the projects, there were two cops, a veteran cop and a rookie cop, doing a top-down patrol in a project building.
00:55:32.000The rookie cop had his gun out as Mr. Gurley and his girlfriend entered the stairwell.
00:55:37.000They got tired of waiting for the elevator.
00:55:39.000The rookie cop shot him, from testimony that's come out so far, without warning, shot him in the chest, and it sounds like they left without calling for emergency help.
00:55:50.000So there were some protests on Monday.
00:55:52.000We had some people who threw some fake blood on the police commissioner.
00:55:55.000I'm sure that's a factor in these demonstrations that are going on in New York now as well.
00:55:59.000Yes, in fact, there was also today's Daily News had a piece in which they suggested that one of the police officers, or the shooter perhaps, again, alleged shooters, allegedly did this, but might have been on the phone texting his union rep rather than calling for emergency backup.
00:56:23.000You know, one of the problems I have to understand is, you know, Paul and David, When you are assigned to a particular area as a police officer, where there are more drugs, there is more crime, there is more robbery.
00:56:43.000In an area, a sector, I don't know what you call it in the UK, Paul, but a precinct or a city or a unit area, a particular locale, and we're going to go in there.
00:56:57.000And I tell you, by the way, we're going into this new place.
00:57:23.000Well, I mean, that's the point that many prominent black speakers have made, that the 911 calls are coming from the crime-ridden areas, obviously, so that's where police need to go.
00:57:34.000That's where they're called out, that's where they're gonna go.
00:57:38.000Why do you think, and let's assume they're poor, people of color, African-Americans, Latino, not Park Avenue, not, you know, whatever, Beverly Hills or whatever the particular.
00:57:51.000Now, if that's the truth, so isn't the issue, well, why are black people or poor people or Latino people living in such areas?
00:58:05.000To begin with, before the police even enter this, why is that?
00:58:10.000So, I hate to believe in the point, but this goes back into dissecting your argument.
00:58:16.000If we're tonight going to patrol New York or Austin or London or wherever it is, the majority of our calls, I guarantee you are going to come from the place where there's most crime and they tend to be poorer.
00:58:32.000So that means that our interaction with the poor, by definition, is going to be greater than our interaction with the high and mighty.
00:58:43.000We're going to have to leave it with that rhetorical question, Lionel.
00:58:46.000Thank you so much for joining us from New York and Paul Joseph Watson from London.
00:58:49.000Stay with us, we're going to come back at the top of the hour with Joe Wolverton from The New American talking about the UN Arms Trade Treaty.
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01:01:34.000I mean, of course, we've got Obama who does a blanket amnesty on immigration.
01:01:39.000And says that he's going to do things in the environmental area and Republicans aren't going to be able to stop him even with their bigger majorities.
01:01:48.000So he is intimidating them and intimating that he is going to pursue executive orders in many areas in these last two years where he doesn't have to stand for re-election.
01:02:01.000So that brings up a big question and what is it?
01:02:07.000How are we going to pull these guys back who are acting criminally, who are acting outside the law?
01:02:11.000And of course, we've got Jerome Corsi joining us in the third hour, looking at Obama's executive order and finding out that he didn't even bother to sign it.
01:02:19.000Not only did he bypass Congress, but he creates this edict.
01:02:37.000And that kind of corruption has found its way, that kind of lawlessness has found its way all the way down into the excessive use of force, the rules of engagement, if you will, the militarization of the police.
01:02:50.000The fact that they don't care whether or not you have a right to record them in public.
01:02:56.000They have over and over again continue to arrest people even though it has been held up in court after court that yes of course we do have the right to film in public.
01:03:06.000There's no expectation they watch everything we do.
01:03:09.000Now speaking of watching everything we do we have a Kit Daniels article up about Google.
01:03:15.000Julian Assange, who watches them very closely, watches what's happening on the internet, he believes that Google is going to back Hillary Clinton for president in 2016.
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01:03:29.000And it's interesting to look at some of the politics here that's going on.
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01:03:58.000And as I point out, it's kind of cringeworthy.
01:04:00.000And I'm thinking, is that really going to get her support among men?
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01:08:50.000I was involved with a gun rights group, and I was there in July of 2012, when they were trying to push this through.
01:08:58.000And of course, in the lead up to that, we had the Aurora shooting.
01:09:03.000And that just had false flag all over it.
01:09:06.000I mean, when you've got a guy who has basically been deeply embedded in psychological studies funded by the U.S.
01:09:13.000government, and somehow, all of a sudden, a guy with no experience whatsoever with weapons has rigged his house like a Navy SEAL.
01:09:22.000They find him after the shooting in kind of this spaced-out state next to his car, and he tells him, my place is rigged, is booby-trapped or whatever.
01:09:33.000If he was going to do that, why would he warn them about that?
01:09:35.000And of course, the shooter, or as we heard some people believe, there were multiple shooters, got in through a side door that was kind of jacked open into the theater.
01:09:44.000There was just so many suspicious things about that.
01:09:57.000People were even more adamant that even if they were going to buy this narrative that was being sold to them about this lone wolf crazy shooter, they wanted guns to protect themselves.
01:10:10.000They said, we're going to wait until after the American elections.
01:10:13.000That November 4th, They came back and said as soon as it was evident that the Democrats had picked up seats in the Senate, they came back and said we're going to revisit this next year after the new senators are seated.
01:10:42.000A treaty has to be ratified by the Senate, and a treaty cannot conflict with the Constitution, or with our fundamental God-given rights.
01:10:51.000And I think that's one of the points that Joe Wolverton is going to talk about.
01:10:55.000We're going to talk about the scope of this, what it's going to mean if we allow this to go through.
01:10:59.000And of course, we're going to be talking in the third hour to Jerome Corsi, because he discovered The amnesty edict that came from our dictator Obama was not even signed.
01:11:45.000Looking at some of the news today, as I mentioned, we've got a story up from Kit Daniels.
01:11:50.000Julian Assange believes that Hillary Clinton is going to be backed by Google.
01:11:54.000He points out that Google has very strong ties to Clinton.
01:11:57.000And, of course, these are people who have looked at a lot of emails.
01:12:00.000I really would like to see who Who Guccifer thinks is going to be the next president, because he's the guy that's been reading their private email going back and forth, and he's had some interesting takes that have come out of that.
01:12:14.000As I mentioned in the first hour, there was an interesting story, and I got to it right at the end of the segment, as we're going to break.
01:12:21.000Didn't have much time to talk about it.
01:12:23.000The state of Utah has ordered an insurance company startup to raise their prices Because their competitors are not being treated fairly.
01:12:31.000In other words, they've got competitive prices out there and the insurance that they're putting out there.
01:12:34.000I thought that was the whole point of the affordable health care, right?
01:12:38.000You know, we were told when Hillary Clinton was trying to shove health care down our throats as an unelected first lady, she said, you know, the problem with rising prices is we've got too much competition.
01:12:50.000We need to have a single payer system to get the price down.
01:12:52.000Now that's exactly, works exactly the opposite, doesn't it?
01:12:54.000Well, now here's the rationale that Utah has.
01:12:57.000They say that a Utah regulator says that offering free access to the website of this insurance company violates state insurance laws, which makes it legal illegal for companies to offer inducements to purchase insurance.
01:13:11.000They never really wanted you to look at the Obamacare website, the affordable health care website.
01:13:18.000They never wanted you to look at that.
01:13:20.000They don't want you to understand what's going on.
01:13:23.000Gruber's made that apparently evidently clear.
01:13:26.000As I said before, we ought to Make it a verb to gruber something, to torture the data so that you can deceive.
01:14:59.000He was saying they don't understand that if we tax the, if we add fees at the corporate level, they're not going to understand this stuff.
01:15:05.000They were using people's financial ignorance to sell Obamacare.
01:15:09.000That's what it was all about from the very beginning.
01:15:11.000When you have Hillary Clinton making pronouncements like she did 20 years ago, saying that we can't have competition.
01:15:18.000That's causing healthcare to be too expensive.
01:15:21.000We can't have so many doctors out there because that raises the price of doctors.
01:15:25.000I don't care what it is, whether it's widgets or whether it's brain surgeons, if you've got more of them out there, unless they organize themselves into some kind of a monopoly using the government, that's how monopolies always operate, they always get the government to come in and give them a monopoly.
01:15:42.000We've got the Small Business Administration that is supposed to help to level the playing field for small businesses Do you think that the American government is really going to do that?
01:15:55.000Do you think the Small Business Administration is really interested in helping small businesses or are they interested in helping the big businesses?
01:16:05.000In interviews, on the nightly news, I've talked to someone who's made this point.
01:16:41.000They're getting interest-free loans to pay back not only the bailout money that they got, but getting interest-free loans and then loaning it out to people on home loans and auto loans at 4, 5, 6 percent, then loaning it out in credit cards at 20, 30, 40, 50 percent.
01:16:53.000But no, the loans themselves are going to the biggest companies.
01:17:00.000It's not going to the small companies.
01:17:02.000The vast majority of the loans are going to the very largest companies.
01:18:18.000Well, Monsanto and the large corporations that want to keep you from knowing what's in your food have been bringing in people from out of state as observers.
01:18:31.000It's one of the many ways that they game the system and of course they have been playing Paying to play, I should say.
01:18:40.000Donating four to five times the amount of money that the organizations who are trying to get labeling out there have.
01:18:49.000And if they do it enough, I think they've got it down to a science.
01:18:51.000It looks like if they put out about four to five times the amount that their opponents are able to spend, they seem to be able to pretty regularly pull this off.
01:19:01.000And at the beginning, when they were first fighting these labeling laws, they were putting a lot of money in, but then they pulled it back to just about four or five times.
01:19:11.000And in Oregon, it went from an overwhelming majority of people who supported just honesty and knowing what's in your food.
01:19:21.000We can have this discussion about what GMO actually means to my health, but why are you hiding the fact that it's in there if it's something that isn't harmful for me?
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01:24:40.000We're going to be joined in the next segment with Joe Wolverton, writing for the New American, talking about the UN Arms Trade Treaty, a very comprehensive piece of gun control.
01:24:53.000Of course it was not ratified by the Senate.
01:24:55.000Of course it conflicts with the Second Amendment.
01:24:58.000But we have seen all kinds of crazy stuff being done by our government under color of law.
01:25:04.000We've got Obama Announcing an executive order, yet nothing was ever signed or filed.
01:25:13.000He's going to be joining us in the next hour to talk about that and the meaning of that.
01:25:18.000Of course, I think it clearly makes it obvious that we've got a dictator in office.
01:25:23.000He doesn't think he even needs to put his orders in writing.
01:25:27.000He just needs to speak them, but of course it's a little bit more subtle than that.
01:25:32.000That's one of the takeaways to come out with it, but we've also got House lawmakers are going to reintroduce a bill to limit the NSA backdoor spying.
01:25:42.000I don't see that they really want to do anything about this, of course, because We've got people violating the law from the NSA down to the police departments.
01:25:52.000The Department of Justice is violating the law.
01:25:56.000We've got a president who signs executive orders.
01:26:00.000If you are so captured by this Democrat-Republican false paradigm they put out there, it ought to scare you to death.
01:26:08.000To think about the other guys getting in charge.
01:26:12.000Except, the thing is, they're all on the same team, as we point out over and over again.
01:26:17.000We even had the bumper, as we came in earlier in the show, of the comedian pointing out, you know, what's the, we got the puppet on the left, we got the puppet on the right, and look, it's the same guy controlling both of them.
01:26:58.000Except it's not really going to be that different.
01:27:01.000You know, when we looked at the choice that we were given with Barack Obama and Mitt Romney, you realize, of course, that Peter Gruber was given a shout-out by Mitt Romney for helping him to push through Romneycare in Massachusetts, which was so identical to Obamacare that eventually came which was so identical to Obamacare that eventually came through it.
01:27:20.000And of course Romney did that with the help of Ted Kennedy in Massachusetts.
01:27:25.000That should have been a warning for everybody that we were going to get the same thing regardless of who we elected.
01:27:44.000Isn't that what Mitt Romney looked like?
01:27:46.000But anyway, you could pick the guy that you thought matched your personal taste because we can't even really have a discussion about excessive use of police force or police violating the law without it being taken over by racism.
01:28:05.000As we pointed out earlier, It was a black female sergeant who oversaw the smothering or the heart attack that was induced on Eric Garner and had no problem with it.
01:28:18.000You're not going to see this change by electing a woman or a black or a white guy.
01:28:42.00038 billion reasons the Second Amendment is crumbling and it's Bloomberg's money, the billionaire Bloomberg, lavishing money on these initiatives in the same way that Monsanto and the big agri-companies lavish money on these other initiatives to prevent people from knowing what's in their food.
01:29:03.000They're trying to take our fundamental rights to protect ourselves individually from criminals and collectively against an unconstitutional government.
01:29:11.000Those are rights that supersede the Constitution.
01:29:13.000But, of course, Bloomberg has a lot of money there.
01:29:16.000They point out that he's reportedly spent as much as $50 million from his personal funds in just the 2014 elections.
01:29:23.000If you go back and you look at even David Clark, we've interviewed him on this show, a black sheriff from Minneapolis, very supportive of gun rights, telling people...
01:29:33.000Honestly, I can't be there when something happens.
01:29:36.000You need to be armed, you need to be trained.
01:29:38.000Make sure you know how to use the gun, but I can't be there for a long time.
01:29:42.000We'll try to get there as soon as we can, but you have the responsibility to protect yourself.
01:29:46.000Bloomberg tried to take him out of office with a half a million dollars spent on a sheriff's race.
01:29:51.000He's got a lot of money and he's going to throw it at this.
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01:35:32.000We're going to have, in the third hour, Jerome Corsi talking about Obama's amnesty executive order that he didn't even bother to sign or file.
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01:35:48.000DARPA is getting close to an Iron Man suit.
01:35:52.000Yeah, that's everything that you look at that DARPA is doing really bothers me.
01:35:56.000And as I look at this article, you know, I think they're actually getting closer to being Hydra.
01:36:01.000That's the thing that really scares me.
01:36:03.000It isn't so much that they've got an Iron Man suit, or they've got an exoskeleton suit, or they got robots.
01:36:08.000It's the character of the people who are running the military-industrial complex.
01:36:13.000And the fact that they try to sell this stuff as, you know, they come in peace, this is for the benefit of mankind, when they have the DARPA robot contests and everything.
01:36:20.000It's like, look, you're not fooling anybody.
01:36:23.000We understand what your mission statement here is.
01:36:28.000And when I see them developing a robot that can run faster than any human being, I don't believe that they're going to use it to go turn off the stuck valve on a nuclear reactor somewhere, okay?
01:36:41.000I wasn't born yesterday, and most of our people aren't either.
01:36:43.000They say the Army doesn't have an Iron Man suit yet, but the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, DARPA, their Warrior Web program, is a step closer to developing a soft, low-powered exosuit that will augment the physical capabilities of soldiers.
01:36:59.000And of course, we've seen some crude examples of that in some other military organizations as well, but they're going to go full-on Terminator.
01:37:10.000And as I pointed out yesterday, it's strange enough to see that they've got Terminator that looks like, as everybody is getting concerned about the advances in AI, we've got people like Elon Musk, we've got Stephen Hawkins all saying, look, AI could very easily get out of control and end the human AI could very easily get out of control and end the human race, the I mean, we see that coming true.
01:37:31.000And then if that's not bad enough, we see them even going to replicating pinky in the brain, sticking human brain, you know, augmenting mice brains with human brain cells and increasing their intelligence.
01:38:46.000Now, now, during that time period, there were three satellites dedicated only to Fort Irwin.
01:38:57.000Says that the commanding generals of the booth, or the people that we're training, at that time would be for Desert Storm, could watch a brigade-level fake war go on.
01:39:11.000Yeah, they've got a lot of equipment that they're not telling us about.
01:39:14.000Just think about how rapidly they deployed the drone program after 9-11.
01:39:19.000When you stop back and think about that, I mean, they didn't want people to think about the fact that they could remotely control aircraft.
01:39:27.000Even though, going back to the 60s, they had Operation Northwoods, where they had proposed Drone airplanes, commercial airliners, flying them into buildings, staging other terrorist acts so they could use it as a pretext to go to war against Castro in Cuba.
01:39:43.000But we're not told about that in the 60s and the 70s and the 80s and the 90s.
01:39:47.000No, when we have September 11th on 2001, nobody's thought about Drone-controlled planes being used as weapons or as a false flag, but after 2001 guess what?
01:39:57.000It only took about a month for them to have this entire drone army that their Air Force that they're using In Afghanistan it just appeared out of nowhere.
01:40:07.000Isn't that interesting how these things just come up at a convenient time?
01:40:11.000I'm gonna hold the rest of your calls to the top of the hour because we just got a hold of Joe Wolverton with the New American and Featured contributor there is articles on the Constitution, states' rights, NDAA, drones, surveillance state, have appeared in national, international publications including LewRockwell.com, Ron Paul Forums, the Tenth Amendment Center, our site, InfoWars, Guardian, and Business Insider.
01:40:32.000And of course, he's got an article up today about the UN Arms Trade Treaty.
01:40:37.000It's something that I've been following for a long time.
01:40:44.000Lay out for people what the real problem with the U.N.
01:40:47.000Arms Trade Treaty is and then we can talk about how they're trying to push this on us and the constitutional issues.
01:40:52.000But talk about the substance of it right now.
01:40:55.000The substance of it is it requires the registration of all ammunition, arms, and component parts.
01:41:03.000It gives control over those to regional departments of the United Nations.
01:41:10.000It requires member states, meaning the United States included, To keep a list of gun owners.
01:41:18.000It empowers the United Nations to send troops in to enforce disarmament should any member state find it difficult to disarm its citizens.
01:41:30.000It requires tracking to the end user of the manufacturing by the manufacturer of any firearm, ammunition or component part.
01:41:39.000And at the end of the day, it will lead to the complete disarmament of the civilian population.
01:41:44.000Yeah, this is full spectrum gun control.
01:41:46.000They're not looking at something and saying, well, you know, we're going to ban guns that we think looks, we're going to call them assault weapons and say that they look scary.
01:41:53.000So, you know, if you've got a bayonet attachment on the end, we're going to ban that.
01:42:01.000Guns, denying the right to own guns, taking out ammunition, taking out spare parts, as you point out, creating this massive registry and demanding that no one can own anything associated with a firearm.
01:42:13.000Right, and under Article 16 of the Arms Trade Treaty, it does empower the Secretary General to deploy peacekeepers to any nation whose leaders or legislative body finds it difficult to disarm.
01:42:32.000So that's Article 16, and it will help It will help that leader or that nation with what it calls stockpile management, disarmament, and demobilization.
01:42:44.000So you can interpret that the way you think it should be interpreted.
01:42:48.000Well, the way I interpret that is Lexington and Concord.
01:42:51.000Because they went after the stockpiles there.
01:42:55.000You're the first one who's really caught on to that.
01:42:58.000When the bullets started flying at the War for Independence, it was because King George's troops were coming for the ammunition.
01:43:07.000Now let's talk about how they have manipulated this thing from the very beginning because...
01:43:13.000They had come up, and we know, even the New York Times pointed out, that Fast and Furious was set up to blame the Second Amendment.
01:43:20.000And of course, a key part of Fast and Furious was to move guns across the border.
01:43:26.000And so that's exactly what this purports to take care of.
01:43:30.000That is the rationale for having to have a UN arms trade treaty, because it's not enough that we just have this problem as they perceive it in America.
01:44:22.000On the very day of the election, as soon as they saw the Democrats were going to be picking up seats, they said, we're going to revisit this back in the spring after the Democrats are in Congress.
01:44:30.000And, of course, Joe, they didn't get that ratified by the Senate.
01:44:34.000Nevertheless, John Kerry, Secretary of State, signed it.
01:44:37.000So talk to us about the constitutionality of all of that.
01:44:41.000Well, I mean, the constitutionality is there is none.
01:44:46.000Specifically, the Second Amendment says, as you know and all of your viewers know, shall not be infringed.
01:44:53.000Shall not be infringed unless there's armed violence.
01:44:56.000Shall not be infringed unless there's a mass shooting.
01:45:01.000That most people, most good, well-intentioned constitutionalists and lovers of liberty don't understand is the Second Amendment has nothing to do with self-defense in the narrow way.
01:45:11.000It has self-defense in the wider, Lockean way.
01:45:15.000That is to say, when the government becomes abusive of your rights, it is your duty and your obligation and your right to throw off that government.
01:45:24.000And at the end of the day, our Founding Fathers understood that the Second Amendment had nothing to do with protecting yourself from burglars.
01:45:31.000It had everything to do with protecting yourself from tyrants.
01:45:35.000And the United Nations, no one is more tyrannical in its conception and in its operation than the United Nations.
01:45:52.000And I'll tell you the story of... I was invited by the ambassadors of Mexico and Spain to speak at the convention where they finally... where they were drafting the Arms Trade Treaty back in March of... I think it was 2012.
01:46:09.000And I went to that and spoke there at their little meeting on behalf of the Second Amendment.
01:46:13.000And these guys understood very well And made no uncertain terms that the goal of this, ultimately, is disarmament.
01:46:21.000But the way to get there, the best way to get there, is to focus on the ammunition.
01:46:28.000They specifically, something that most people don't know, and I've written about, but to my, you know, dismay, it hasn't gotten enough traction, which is the fact that it is the ammunition.
01:46:37.000And at this meeting of the Mexican, sponsored by Spain and Mexico, there at the UN, They mentioned specifically that they were working on, in Germany, they were working on technology that was a tiny chip that would be implanted in every round, and that chip would be required by international law to be used by every manufacturer of ammunition.
01:47:01.000And that chip would cause the round of ammunition to self-destruct after it had been used one time, meaning the end to all reloading, of course.
01:47:27.000Remember, they pulled that back and then there was a couple of senators who came back and fought against that.
01:47:32.000And then a couple of years later, We uncovered some evidence that showed that they were still at a New York Fort, and I can't remember the name of it right now, but they were still recycling this brass in terms of crushing it and selling it to China as scrap, spending money to crush it, selling it to China as scrap metal for far less than they could sell it back into the American market, which is what the military has always done with their scrap brass.
01:48:03.000So they understand not only as a full spectrum attack, not just this UN Arms Trade Treaty, but they want to get even to the components of ammunition.
01:48:12.000And as you pointed out about the Second Amendment, it's about It references infringement because I think they always visualize that this is going to be a gradual process.
01:48:21.000And it has been a gradual process of infringement until now.
01:48:48.000I mean, we are seeing now that with the Department of Homeland Security and with the Department of Defense giving grants and the Homeland Security creating fusion centers, the local law enforcement is something that just doesn't exist anymore.
01:49:01.000They're all simply outposts of the larger federal military law enforcement complex.
01:49:06.000It's becoming a thing where it won't be a blue-helmeted U.N.
01:49:11.000It'll be the local deputy sheriff, you know, who has been armed to the teeth by Homeland Security and the Department of Defense.
01:49:20.000You know, they show up to serve bench warrants with an anti-personnel vehicle, an armored personnel vehicle, and that's how they'll show up to serve the warrant to you to notice to you that you haven't complied with the law requiring registration of firearms.
01:49:34.000If you want to know exactly how it'll go down, just read the history of the past 20 years or so of the United Kingdom and Australia.
01:49:42.000And that'll tell you exactly how it'll go down.
01:49:44.000You'll be, it'll all be enforced by your local law enforcement acting on behalf of the federal government.
01:49:50.000And of course, they may just kind of wait us out.
01:49:53.000There was the fellow who did the wargaming scenario, used to teach, still did teach at the military college in South Carolina, essentially talking about a revolution of tea partiers there and how that was going to play out in a scenario.
01:50:06.000But one of the things that he controversially said was, I will pry that out of your cold dead hands.
01:50:11.000Hopefully when you've died from natural causes.
01:50:15.000We're going to continually infringe on this until there's nothing left and then we're going to come for the little cleanup operations that we need to do elsewhere.
01:50:26.000But one of the things I want to talk about under your article, you pointed out the irony of this happening on Christmas Eve and you spent a lot of time talking about Christians involvement and the understanding of where our rights come from that they transcend government they come directly from God and of course at the Berlin Wall when it fell down it was the Christians who in mass went to the wall after having
01:50:51.000They met for seven years and setting their churches up as a place where people could come and freely talk about politics openly and could come and pray for their country.
01:51:00.000After seven years of that, they marched on the wall.
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01:54:31.000We have on the line with us Joe Wolverton from thenewamerican.com talking about his article that the UN declares that they're going to put the Arms Trade Treaty into effect on December 24th.
01:54:44.000Now we've talked about the scope of this, we've talked about how clever the government has become in their gun control efforts, how they have focused on ammunition, and of course we talked about how they early on stopped brass recycling from the military because of course the military makes their own ammunition.
01:55:00.000They stopped that and then restarted it after Senators protested that.
01:55:06.000But then it appears we have information that looks like they may have continually stopped that and are recycling that rather than putting it back into the market.
01:55:15.000But of course, as Nico reminded me, you know, the whole thing with the DHS that Paul Joseph Watson broke here at Infowars, the fact that they are buying Billions of rounds of ammunition and the ammunition shortages that they caused out of that.
01:55:28.000That was coming out of the general market because, as I mentioned before, the military makes their own ammunition.
01:55:34.000So they have understood that it's about ammunition.
01:55:36.000They're working on infringing our basic rights, but now this is coming for the entire thing.
01:55:49.000Denying the right of individuals to own weapons and then also putting in an enforcement mechanism saying that they will enforce it with the UN although they may have the local police working for them.
01:56:00.000I want to go back to Joe and and Joe one of the things that we didn't talk about in the last segment of course was the Yeah, I mean, I think it's important.
01:56:08.000transcendent right that we have the fact that the constitution just merely recognizes those these are rights that we possess as human beings from our creator going back to the declaration of independence that understanding of our rights go ahead yeah i mean i i think it's important i i tell people all the time when i give speeches that there are books that if you want to be part of what's going to happen if you want to be part of taking uh this country back to the place it needs to be the place it was destined to be
01:56:35.000then you've got to read some of these books that the founders read that informed them and taught them from their the cradle that there we are endowed they did not create this idea thomas jefferson did not out of the blue decide that we were endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights He discovered this from very little.
01:56:54.000And it's funny to understand that from the time that the federal government took control of education, all of these people, all of their writings, people that most of your viewers probably haven't heard of, these people, Emmerich, Duvall, John Jacques Berlemache and Samuel Pufendorf and Algernon Sidney.
01:57:10.000These people that were all over the writings and journals of our Founding Fathers were completely scrubbed from the notion of history.
01:57:18.000Mainly to keep the idea out of our minds that we are endowed by our Creator with certain rights and among those is the right to protect our life and Alexander Hamilton explained it very well in the Federalist Papers number 27 and 28 that are the purpose is to throw off tyranny.
01:57:35.000John Locke, he learned it from John Locke as well, and John Locke learned it from those other guys that... Well they could even go Joe to the Bible, couldn't they?
01:57:45.000And have a bit of a revival to understand that we have to stand up for the defenseless, for those who are being oppressed.
01:57:52.000It was Jesus who overthrew the money changers, got angry about that.
01:57:57.000Why is there no anger on the part of Christians when we see oppression?
01:58:02.000When we see oppression coming from our own government, too often I see Christians give government A carte blanche to do whatever they want to because of a misunderstanding of Romans.
01:58:13.000And we've had pastors on to talk about this many times, but that's what I think it initially stems from is just a misunderstanding of the lines of authority and a lack of compassion for individuals.
02:01:35.000Obama has said that he's going to go through with his climate change agenda whether or not the Republicans like it.
02:01:41.000He has absolutely nothing but contempt for our legislative process for Congress and of course Congress is aiding and abetting that by being passive.
02:01:49.000We know that John Boehner and Mitch McConnell have no problem with this kind of dictatorial power.
02:01:55.000They would like to see the Republicans in control of the levers of power.
02:01:59.000So they're helping to create this monolithic megastate, hoping that they're going to have the levers one day.
02:02:06.000But we're also going to be talking to Jerome Corsi at the bottom of the hour about the very executive order that many people have said Obama ought to clearly be impeached for.
02:02:15.000You know, he said, I changed the law for you when he's talking to some demonstrators.
02:02:19.000Then tried to walk that back and said, oh, I was just talking, speaking colloquially.
02:02:23.000I didn't really mean I'd literally change the law.
02:02:50.000We were just talking about gun control, full-spectrum gun control, coming after not only the rights to own guns, but also coming after the guns, coming after the ammunition, coming after the parts, full registration, and then saying the UN reserves the right to come in as peacekeepers and take those guns away from you.
02:03:22.000First of all, doesn't it say when the government in our Constitution becomes lawless that the people of the, let's say of Americans, we do not follow the laws anymore as to what the government Yes, and I think there are a number of ways that haven't been tried legally and peacefully.
02:03:45.000That's why I'm concerned about people who want to immediately go out and take direct action.
02:03:50.000We see how people have reacted to the looters in Ferguson.
02:03:56.000Attaching that, even when they attach it to something that some people might support, an excessive case of police brutality or force, they still don't support that because they don't understand what the problems are there.
02:04:07.000I think there's a lot more education that needs to be done.
02:04:09.000I want to see people standing up in juries and nullifying laws.
02:04:12.000That only takes one person to do that in a jury.
02:04:15.000If I don't see people doing that in juries, I don't think they're going to have my six if I want to come out and start using force.
02:04:22.000I want to see people at the state level Sheriffs, state legislators, I want to see them using the powers of nullification.
02:04:29.000Joe Woolverton has talked quite a bit about that, the new American, talking about nullification.
02:04:34.000That is a rightful remedy, and we need to have some kind of, we need to have faithful people, people who are faithful to the principles this country was built upon, to be leaders, to have some kind of a power structure in there.
02:04:46.000Hang on, we've got to come up to a break.
02:04:48.000I don't want to cut you off or let you have a chance to respond.
02:04:51.000So hold on the phone there, Rich in Oregon.
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02:08:34.000We were just taking some calls in the last segment, and we ran out of time.
02:08:39.000We had Rich from Oregon talking about gun control.
02:08:41.000Of course, in the last hour, we were talking to Joe Wolverton from The New American about the UN declaring that they're going to put into effect their arms trade treaty on December the 24th.
02:08:51.000Now, there's a lot of countries that have signed on to that treaty.
02:09:46.000Well, the only thing I was thinking about, David, is first of all with the UN treaty, I don't know anything about The UN being part of the United States, that's what they'd like to be, I guess.
02:10:00.000However, I'm somebody that will not comply with anything such as gun control.
02:10:05.000I, you know, I just feel that it's an infringement upon my rights.
02:10:10.000Number one, I know I'm not the only one to stand alone on that thought.
02:10:14.000Also, two, How are they going to enforce that when over 200 million Americans are armed?
02:10:19.000Also, even when the police are out of control like that, I mean, you know what?
02:10:24.000You never know if you're gonna get shot when you get stopped or if you're going to jail and you've never done nothing in your life. - I understand, but I think, Rich, the dangerous thing is they've gotten a lot more subtle and clever about the way they're approaching it, and that is they're focusing on ammunition, We've seen this with the massive purchases out of the civilian market with DHS.
02:10:43.000We've seen it with the dry up of the recycled brass out of the military.
02:11:49.000And the last caller mentioned, you know, we have a lot of armed citizens.
02:11:52.000Well, I mean, it's just, it's going to be piece by piece like it has been.
02:11:59.000You just said a lot of people's line in the sand a week ago when Alex was asking the question was that there's a treaty going through and a lot of people don't believe that Agenda 21 isn't real, the main critics, because it's not a ratified, signed, voted on law.
02:12:19.000No, actually, Agenda 21 is just that, it's an agenda.
02:12:23.000What they do is they come up with these goals and processes and then they rely on a RAND Corporation process to enact that at the local level.
02:12:31.000And they actually even manipulate people, that's part of the RAND process, to manipulate the local population to believe that they actually had input on this, that this was actually their idea, that they signed on to it, and yet it's the same agenda that's being replicated in all these different areas.
02:13:44.000I want to say thanks for you guys doing the great reporting you do and putting yourselves in jeopardy for all the things that could go wrong being an employee of Alex Jones because he's one of the greatest people ever.
02:13:57.000One of the things you need to understand is that we are all in jeopardy.
02:14:02.000Everybody needs to understand they're being spied on.
02:14:04.000I mean, we know we're being spied on, but everybody needs to understand that.
02:14:07.000When they understand that, when they understand that it isn't black versus white, it isn't urban versus rural, that's when things are going to change, when people come together and realize this is a broad-based attack by a few people on the vast majority of us who just really want to live our lives and be left alone.
02:14:27.000And also I had a couple other things on the guns too.
02:14:30.000But the non-violent solution, you know, I'm an electrician and I do a lot of driving.
02:14:34.000And, you know, I'm driving down the road, Drake Dream, and I said, hey, what is the most powerful industry in the United States besides government?
02:15:07.000They're going to go to self-driving cars, and trucks are going to be one of the first places they're going to do it.
02:15:12.000It's going to be decimating to everybody that's in the transportation industry.
02:15:15.000I mean, part of this fight that's going on with Uber and the taxi companies, I understand that for the longest time, taxi companies have used government control to shut out their competition.
02:15:26.000They used it to shut down Jitney Services at the very beginning of the existence of automobiles.
02:15:31.000They put minority businesses, minority taxi companies, independent companies, they're called Jitney Taxis, they put them out of business even though they didn't want to go to those areas because of the violence in those areas.
02:15:42.000You had small entrepreneurs who were black, for example, that would go into those areas, that would take the risk, they wanted to serve those areas, but they outlawed it using the taxi system.
02:15:52.000Now you've got this fight with Uber and the taxi companies, and you've got a lot of local governments that are pushing back against Uber, and I see a lot of conservatives and libertarians taking the side of Uber, not understanding where this is eventually going to go.
02:16:06.000They're not just going to put out the taxi companies.
02:16:09.000Uber has said they want to get rid of their own drivers.
02:16:12.000They're looking for drivers right now, but he has gone on record saying, you know what makes our service expensive, what makes taxis expensive?
02:16:20.000Once we get rid of him, we become cheap.
02:16:22.000And we become so cheap that we make private ownership of cars go away.
02:16:28.000So it's not just your right to protect yourself, but it's your right to be able to move without government control, government monitoring of your computer-controlled car.
02:16:37.000And I think that's something that's very concerning, but of course it's going to hit people in the transportation industry like you the hardest, the earliest.
02:16:45.000Yeah, like I said, I'm not a trucker, I am an electrician.
02:16:52.000But my thing of it is, we need a Google bomb, we need to be on the CBs, we need to be in the truck stops, we need to be advertising InfoWars on their media sites where the truckers go all the time.
02:17:03.000We need to get the truckers involved because, look, this country is going to be shut down.
02:17:51.000And I called in, and I got 20 seconds, and I went over the drug report.
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02:18:14.000And if you read that article and you scroll down under the Obamacare guidelines, it exempts for what they call They are healthcare sharing ministries which are exempt from Obamacare, and if you get insurance through them, you don't have to pay the fine.
02:18:34.000Yes, Samaritan Ministries is one, Medicare, MediShare, something like that is another one.
02:18:40.000Those are Christian ministries, and yeah, you can opt out taking the Taking the option of doing it on a religious basis, and those are great ministries.
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02:18:59.000You pay a small annual, and it is a small annual fee to handle the administrative stuff of it, but most of your money is going directly to people That you know what their problem is.
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02:19:48.000I want to know why, why are, you can get, you can get the .223s, the .55s, you know, you can get all the ammo, but 22... We're almost out of time.
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02:24:56.000Yeah, I actually have a couple of points, but addressing the executive order, what it seems to me from what I understand about government and having, you know, lived 51 years, I really think that it's obviously not Obama who's doing this all on his own.
02:25:18.000I think it's important to recognize this is a conspiracy between all three branches of the government.
02:25:26.000What's going on here is the House and the Senate and the President are all bought and paid for, and they are doing the will of those who we do not see.
02:25:37.000I mean, the invisible or shadow type of government.
02:25:44.000We're not what we appear to be, and it's quite unfortunate.
02:25:50.000And let me interrupt you for a second there and say I teased the interview last night.
02:25:53.000We're going to air it in full on Monday night, but I talked to Greg Morris, who's somebody that was involved with the SNL scandals from the very beginning.
02:26:03.000He's done a lot of detailed research just as Dr. Corsi has on this executive order.
02:26:07.000He's done a lot of detailed research on exactly what happened and what created this mortgage crisis that we experienced beginning, noticed beginning in 2008.
02:26:17.000He's come up with some very specific documented claims.
02:26:23.000He also explains in this interview how this is the largest case of tax evasion and security fraud we have ever seen in this country.
02:26:31.000And he has a freeway if you want to stand up and be counted.
02:26:35.000You know, as we said earlier when we were talking to Lionel, people who get frustrated, sometimes they just get even more frustrated if they don't have a goal, if they don't have a course of action, if they just show up to protest.
02:26:47.000He's got something to put it right in their face, to expose this to the public.
02:26:51.000If we get enough signatures behind the 15,000 pages of documents that he's produced to produce this and have some hearings and congressional hearings on this.
02:27:01.000Anyway, you need to listen to that interview.
02:27:03.000I won't plug that anymore, but go back to your point that you were making about this being a full spectrum Well, it was actually one of four quick points, so I'll do this as fast as I can.
02:27:21.000It's you know it's it's quite it's quite obvious um you know that what's going on here is a is an absolutely it's a conspiracy and these congressmen it doesn't it doesn't matter who you vote for anymore um you can vote for you you can you can vote for any of these people all of the all of these people are doing and are going to do the bidding of Those who truly control everything.
02:27:59.000I also wanted to say that one of the things that's very important for us to do and important for all the radio talk show hosts to do that are truly liberty-minded is it's very important for us to publicly call on all law enforcement agencies to obey the Constitution
02:28:20.000of the United States is put forth by the founders and to absolutely disregard, no matter what they're told, disregard any illegal orders that they are given.
02:28:37.000And we just had a story a couple of days ago about officers in Normal, Illinois, filing lawsuits, several officers filing lawsuits saying that they've been given quotas, not only just for things like traffic tickets, but given felony quotas that they needed to file against people.
02:28:51.000And they said, we're not going to do that.
02:28:52.000We're not going to make up charges against people just to meet your quotas to show that we're accomplishing something.
02:28:58.000So they filed these these rank and file officers have filed a lawsuit against their own police department.
02:29:14.000And, you know, as as we see, police are, you know, law enforcement's getting very, very tough on the population.
02:29:23.000And they really obviously they really need to be getting tough on the ones who are really doing wrong, which are going to do, which is the people on the top.
02:29:33.000The last point I wanted to make real quickly was in regards to reporting on protests, especially Ferguson.
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02:35:18.000Emphasis on the investigative part because he went down and looked at the actual executive order to see if it was filed, to see if it was signed.
02:35:49.000Now this is a very interesting case and it's picked up by the Drudge Report.
02:35:53.000You've been a couple of days with us and you verified with the National Archives Librarian, Jeffrey Hartley, that yes, there has been no documentation filed about this executive order.
02:36:06.000Well, it started, I got tipped off by a good friend on Wall Street who called me up yesterday very early in the day and said, you know, he couldn't find the executive order that Barack Obama signed implementing the speech on November 20th when Obama addressed the nation and said he was going to recommend this deferred prosecution for the
02:36:32.000Basically the illegal immigrant kids who have come into the United States to keep families together, basically.
02:36:43.000I started looking around and I said, well, you know, I can't find it either.
02:36:46.000About halfway through the day, I realized that there was some sleight of hand being played here by the White House because what Obama had done was give the impression, and the White House gave the impression.
02:37:01.000I mean, I'm getting the press releases from the White House, the pool reports.
02:37:07.000The general impression is that there's going to be an Obama executive order signed.
02:37:12.000Obama flies on the 21st to Vegas in the airplane.
02:37:17.000He signs two executive orders on immigration.
02:37:21.000And four reporters are allowed to watch this, but no print reporters or reporters that would ask questions are allowed into the compartment in Air Force One where President Obama is making the signatures.
02:38:05.000To study new immigrants coming into the United States.
02:38:08.000The other said the Secretaries of State and the Secretaries of DHS should get together and find ways to save money and make more efficient the issuing of immigrant and non-immigrant visas.
02:38:22.000I found both of those in the Presidential Executive Orders on the White House website filed appropriately.
02:38:28.000I found the only implementing order had been a memo written by the Department of Human Services' Jay Johnson head.
02:38:39.000That was a memo instructing that they were going to do deferred prosecution on this class of, you know, of Dreamer parents for three years.
02:38:52.000And there was nothing else that did it.
02:38:53.000So I began really searching around and realized then that Johnson had signed this memo but had not filed it in the Federal Register.
02:39:03.000Which is another problem because federal agencies making rules, new rules, they're supposed to file them for comment in the Federal Register.
02:39:12.000So kind of the final couple steps I took where I contacted of the Attorney General's office in Texas, Greg Abbott's office, because they had led the suit of 17 states filing against the Department of Homeland, against the Obama administration.
02:39:57.000It was a head fake, like his swearing to the poll of the Constitution was a head fake, right?
02:40:04.000I think I've got another piece coming out shortly that tries to put this all together, but I think that The Obama people realize at the White House that they did not have the authority.
02:40:18.000As Obama has been saying for years, to change the law, which is what he wanted to do, so he kind of shuffled it off to Jay Johnson and said, you change the law, and I'll make like I'm changing the law.
02:40:34.000Here's a guy who, as we've pointed out many times, he said 22 times, I'm not a dictator, I can't just arbitrarily change the law, then he says, I changed the law.
02:40:44.000He talks about his executive amnesty that he's done, and then when he's heckled by people who wanted him to do more, he says, I changed the law for y'all.
02:40:52.000And then he comes back and says this colloquial speech, and yet he didn't even bother to sign or file any of this stuff that was all a head fake, right?
02:40:59.000And so, you know, I'm kind of, I think there's some serious legal ramifications of this, which is what I'm writing about today.
02:41:06.000But I mean, first of all, the context, when I wrote The Obama Nation in 2008 about Obama, I said it was, you know, never experienced as an executive.
02:41:16.000He's a radical leftist, Saul Alinsky trained, you know, community organizer, and he'll tell you what you want to hear.
02:41:24.000And I think we're now living in the Gruber era, after Jonathan Gruber, our MIT professor, has come out and blathered about how much smarter he is than all the rest of us, and he's so smart that he can pull off lying to us for our own good.
02:41:40.000Yeah, we need to change his name and make it a verb.
02:41:43.000We say we Gruber-ed the data, we tortured it in a purpose to lie and to deceive, and I guess we could say that Obama Gruber-ed his executive order.
02:42:51.000It's the same thing Obama is saying about Lois Lerner.
02:42:54.000Obama gives speech after speech after speech saying how we've got a Tea Party and Citizens United and they're taking advantage of the tax deferred and Lois Lerner says, well I'll fix that.
02:43:08.000I'll make sure none of them get through.
02:43:11.000So she creates an enemies list and starts discriminating, which is against the law, against political applications on political basis for tax-deferred status.
02:43:20.000Well here, again, Obama gives out the message, this big speech, November 20th, and Jay Johnson says, oh, don't worry about that, Mr. President, you don't have to sign anything.
02:43:29.000I'll go ahead and do an executive order for it.
02:43:31.000You don't have to do an executive order.
02:43:35.000And so, I mean, the next thing we're going to do is Obama will say, I'm going to give you an executive order, not sign one, put it in the drawer and say, I'll tell you what it means later on.
02:43:44.000Well, you know, this is very troubling on a lot of different issues because we really have hit into this Alice in Wonderland government that we've got here.
02:43:53.000Even my previous guest, Joe Woolverton, talking about the UN Arms Trade Treaty, they're saying they're going to declare that that's effective on December 24th.
02:44:03.000We haven't ratified that in the Senate, and yet we've had John Kerry, Secretary of State, sign the UN ATT, and of course it brings up a lot of questions about really what they're doing under color of law, things that they don't have legal authority to do, that they're just completely bypassing Congress, having department heads or having bureaucracies take action, and then knowing that the Department of Justice has got their back if anybody comes after them for criminal operations, like we see with the IRS.
02:44:34.000I mean, the thing that really amazed me about the immigration, you know, the non-executive order, executive order, was that the White House took so many pains to, you know, to cover this.
02:44:46.000First of all, we go back very carefully, they only said executive action, which means just, you know, a policy statement.
02:44:54.000Not executive order, but nobody picked that up, especially when Obama flew the next day to Las Vegas and made this big deal of signing two executive orders on immigration, letting them photograph all that.
02:45:10.000So of course everybody thought he was signing the executive orders that implemented The dreamers amnesty for the parents that he had promised the night before in the speech from the East Room.
02:45:32.000When I look at this, it reminds me of These cases people are looking at of excessive police force, where they're looking at this and saying, wait a minute, we don't really have a prosecutor who's really interested in investigating this.
02:45:44.000You know, we've got Obama, who is essentially killing, or has killed, many segments of this economy.
02:45:51.000Killed our legal system, is trying to kill our economy.
02:45:54.000And of course, we've got a Department of Justice prosecutor who's basically sitting on the sidelines and saying, I don't care if you use the IRS as against your political enemies.
02:46:02.000I don't care if you do this, I don't care if you do that.
02:46:05.000This is the entire country that's being killed with this kind of lawlessness done under color of law.
02:46:12.000And making it look like law procedures are being used.
02:46:16.000That's what's so offensive about what Obama's done here.
02:46:19.000And it made me wonder too, you know, I've also written about Vice President Biden has been to the Inter-American Bank and he said we're going to give refugee status to the next wave of so-called unaccompanied minors coming from Central America.
02:46:32.000Well, refugee status is a term of the United Nations and so I'm wondering if Obama is going to apply UN law and say these kids get into the United States with a real pass and a special route to citizenship because they're refugees under the UN.
02:46:49.000I mean, you could even start sending airplanes down to El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala at the expense of the federal government to pick these kids up as refugees to save them the indignity of coming across Mexico to illegally cross into the United States.
02:47:03.000Oh yeah, I think some people have suggested that.
02:47:05.000You know, that's the thing is we cannot take and care for all of the poor of the world.
02:47:10.000We can try to, in the past they have, individuals have, the government has tried to help people to get a leg up, to get started in their own economy, but basically no country can take on everybody as Obama wants to do, unless you want to deliberately implode the economy in a Cloward and Piven strategy.
02:47:28.000And of course, that I believe is what is there.
02:47:30.000So he's directly attacking our economy, attacking our energy industry, going to China, negotiating this deal with them, saying that we're going to reduce our energy output by 25% over the next 11 years.
02:47:42.000But China can continue to build these dirty power plants, because this is all in the name of global warming, yet global warming doesn't seem to be a problem when the Chinese are doing it.
02:47:50.000They can continue to build Well, I mean, first of all, it also means you can't believe anything Obama says.
02:47:54.000It's a point I've been making from the beginning.
02:47:56.000This guy will tell you what you want to hear.
02:48:44.000In a sense, I see a parallel to what our legislative branch has been doing for a long time with the regulatory agencies.
02:48:51.000I know Rand Paul has addressed this to some extent with a lot of reforms, because they don't want to take the heat for a lot of unpopular things.
02:48:59.000So in many cases, what they'll do is they'll create an agency, give it broad mission strokes, but not write the actual laws and let the laws be written By these unelected bureaucrats.
02:49:11.000And then if they step over, the Congress can come in like knights on white horses and say, we're here to rescue you from this regulatory overreach.
02:49:19.000They've been putting this off to the regulatory agencies in the same way that Obama is putting this executive order off on Jay Johnson, haven't they?
02:49:48.000I mean, this is not prosecutorial discretion.
02:49:51.000Prosecutorial discretion to me means, you know, I'm the district attorney and I'm not going to bring this case to criminal trial because there's not good enough evidence.
02:50:00.000It doesn't mean that, hey, anybody who goes through a red light's okay with me because they don't have time to prosecute anybody.
02:50:10.000But again, as I say, I think we see this also in the case of regulatory agencies and it's something that's been going back through several administrations.
02:50:41.000Who could read the tax code anymore after you get finished with the IRS regulations?
02:50:46.000When Nancy Pelosi said, we have to pass it so we can find out what's in it, I don't think she was simply talking about what was in the regulations.
02:50:53.000I think she was talking about once they let this gigantic regulatory monster that they're going to create Work at it for a while, then they're gonna see what it looks like, but they're basically punting that off to them.
02:51:04.000We're gonna be right back with Dr. Jerome Corsi, and then we'll take your calls in overdrive.
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02:54:31.000I'm David Knight, and we're talking to Dr. Jerome Corsi of WND.com.
02:54:35.000Investigative reporter, as well as a senior staff writer, expert on political violence and terrorism.
02:54:44.000He uncovered the fact that, of course, Obama's executive order for amnesty was really just a head fake.
02:54:51.000He never signed anything, never filed anything, and of course, Dr. Corsi, as you point out, Jay Johnson has put something there, but he has not followed the procedures for new regulations in terms of a guidelines to have a comment period and that sort of thing.
02:55:09.000Now that Obama's been lying to everybody, saying that he was changing the law, that he was doing an executive order for amnesty, and then there isn't any executive order, there's just an order from Jay Johnson to say that they're not going to take action against people who are here.
02:55:26.000What does that say about this lawsuit that was filed by the 17 different states?
02:55:47.000District Court issue an order that just stops all this for a while, to sort it out.
02:55:54.000I think that the... But then, of course, if they stop it, I mean, what their executive order is saying is that they're not going to do anything.
02:56:02.000So, I mean, can we force them to obey and enforce the law?
02:56:09.000The injunction by stopping the implementation of Jay Johnson's memo would mean that they could not start issuing Uh, these, um, work authorizations or give insured non-deportation status to the parents of the Dreamers for three years, which is what Johnston's memo said.
02:56:35.000They can't process anything if the court just stops it.
02:56:38.000Now, a stopping motion Kind of tries to prevent any more damage to be done.
02:56:43.000You could still have defunding action by the Congress.
02:56:47.000You could have legal action that could be criminal investigations, whether Jay Johnson had authorized the spending of money that was not authorized by Congress.
02:56:56.000That is a criminal violation under U.S.
02:57:31.000Congress would come in with Republican majorities, and I think the Tea Party and conservative voices within the Republican Party would have to steal a lot more of the leadership of Boehner and McConnell when they come back and realize that they have a larger number of Republicans in both House and Senate, and they were elected because Obama's policies were repudiated.
02:57:56.000So you might get a tougher GOP Congress in January, even Boehner and McConnell are counting on.
02:58:06.000What's going to happen though is that even if they can block them from doing some of these positive actions, and I know they had printed up 34 million cards to give people and so forth, they can't stop them from issuing that kind of thing.
02:58:18.000Still, the message that he put out there, that he was able to get out there with his head fake, is an incentive for more illegal immigration.
02:58:27.000Knowing that at some point they're going to work out the details and these people are going to get to stay here with subsidies and that sort of thing.
03:01:25.000So they've instructed me to remove the gun from the house.
03:01:29.000And I don't understand how a gun has anything to do with a traffic violation.
03:01:34.000Well, that's how they're expanding this.
03:01:36.000They're, you know, we heard in the wake of a lot of these shootings, conservatives who would normally be supportive of gun rights saying, well, we need to look at people for psychological evaluation and take that away, take their guns away from them if there's some issue about that.
03:01:50.000But of course, who gets to decide that?
03:01:52.000What kind of a due process do you have?
03:01:54.000And of course, you say it was for a stop sign violation?
03:04:03.000It's a very sacred document in that regards.
03:04:06.000But the other issue, too, about guns that I think is ludicrous is that there are millions and millions of guns out there that aren't registered.
03:04:15.000And there's nothing that can be done about it.
03:04:36.000There is no way that they can legally enforce a UN treaty that hasn't been even ratified by the Senate that conflicts with our Constitution.
03:04:44.000And yet, we see over and over again that under color of law, we see Obama doing a head fake on amnesty, we see them violating the law on so many different issues.