Watchdog groups brace for surprises in massive $1.014 Trillion spending bill. Republicans are trying to keep it secret from the public, saying secrecy is justified. Why so secret? GOP keeps tight lid on one trillion spending bill, conservatives claim leaders trying to pass before anyone can read it. Barbara Bush gushes about Bill Clinton. George W. Bush says he treats H.W. Bush like a father.
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00:00:51.000Other than that, wow, look at the Hill newspaper.
00:00:53.000Watchdog groups brace for surprises in massive $1.014 trillion spending build.
00:01:06.000And if you go back to DrudgeReport.com, where Drudge has a stack of stories dealing with this, The Republicans are trying to keep it secret, the provisions from the public, saying that secrecy is justified.
00:01:25.000GOP keeps tight lid on one trillion spending bill.
00:01:30.000Conservatives claim leaders trying to pass before anyone can read it.
00:01:33.000See, notice it's only libertarians slash conservatives that are watchdogging the Republicans and the Democrats.
00:01:41.000It's only the Tea Party-esque type people that care about anything.
00:01:46.000I'm not saying they're perfect either, but it's always that group fighting, taking our guns, getting rid of our borders, making the president a dictator, trying to stop tax increases, trying to stop our power plants from being shut off, trying to stop the federalization of all the schools, the federalization of the police.
00:02:06.000It was mainly conservatives starting to worry about the militarization of police.
00:02:09.000That's why you had the Justice Department stir all this rioting up, so they could then get conservatives to pile back on to supporting the police state.
00:02:22.000But meanwhile, in the bill, inside the bill, is the legislation for derivatives.
00:02:31.000In fact, I had two articles in my stack yesterday on that, one by Kurt Nemo and another one by Krieger, dealing with it, where it just signs us on to unlimited derivatives.
00:02:42.000New law would make taxpayers potentially liable for trillions in derivatives losses.
00:02:47.000If the quadrillion dollar derivatives bubble implodes, who should be stuck with the bill?
00:02:53.000It's actually two quadrillion, but I guess technically you can say the quadrillion bill.
00:03:00.000That story is up on InfoWars.com by Michael Schneider, the Economic Collapse blog, and then links through to Zero Hedge and other reports in this copy of the bill.
00:03:12.000Unsurprisingly, the main backer of the bill that's rolled in to the larger spending bill is notorious Wall Street lackey Jim Himes, Democrat Connecticut, a former Goldman Sachs employee who has discovered lobbyist payoffs can be just as lucrative as a career in financial services.
00:03:29.000The last time Mr. Himes made an appearance on these pages was in March 2013.
00:03:34.000Congress moves to deregulate Wall Street.
00:03:39.000So that's the kind of legislation being bundled up, pork-barreled, into the omnibus spending bill, and the Republican leadership is trying to keep most of it secret.
00:03:50.000Kind of like four separate times, George Bush, Jr., over and over and over again, with the Republicans and Democrats, kept it secret.
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00:08:25.000In defense of human liberty, Alex Jones.
00:08:28.000I'll be looking for aid when they pull that gate.
00:08:34.000Joseph Goebbels, the oft-quoted minister of propaganda in Nazi Germany, Germany famously said in many different ways that propaganda needs to be simple and mindless and only allow people to be lazy and to buy into it.
00:08:55.000It needs to be simple and easy, not complex.
00:09:02.000And I saw a quote by Eric Hoffer that basically says the same thing.
00:09:06.000It's in a graphic on the front page of InfoWars.com, today's main image.
00:09:35.000It's up to us to discover the reality of what's being done to us.
00:09:44.000Not to look at who's wearing the nicest jacket, or has the best hair, or who has the nicest tie, or who has the best speech writers, but who is real.
00:09:54.000And who is promoting common sense ideas that have been successful and created amazing stability and prosperity for time immemorial?
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00:10:16.000InfoWars.com forward slash show to find the free video feeds, because you will often hear me mentioning video or articles or legislation or documents that we have on screen.
00:10:28.000So I call this radio transmission Radio Squared, or Radio to the Next Power.
00:10:35.000We of course pioneered not just having a webcam.
00:10:38.000I had a webcam off and on 14 years ago.
00:10:44.000But we've pioneered the last decade plus simulcasting the radio with a full live news TV transmission.
00:11:04.000And the reason I did that, the reason I do that, is the same reason that I made a documentary film, my first film in 1997, America Destroyed by Design, two years after I first got on air 20 years ago.
00:11:20.000And it's because I had the state documents, the State Department documents, the federal legislation, the UN UNESCO treaty, I had all of it.
00:11:32.000On our national parks and national heritage sites and huge buffer zones, sometimes hundreds of miles around it, being put under United Nations control.
00:11:47.000And I had congressmen on to talk about it.
00:11:49.000And I had physicists and scientists and environmental scientists on, like Dr. Michael Kaufman, who had the UN maps and had testified to Congress.
00:12:00.000And people would call in and say, it is insane the U.N.
00:12:06.000is not taking over our national parks.
00:13:02.000And I would take photos of them and put them on Infowars.com.
00:13:07.000But then the problem was, I couldn't afford the bandwidth bills.
00:13:13.000Of the thousands, tens of thousands of people a day then, now it's millions, that visited InfoWars.com.
00:13:21.000And so I said, I've got to make money so I can pay this bandwidth.
00:13:27.000And so I began to make films and sell films and tell people to make copies of them.
00:13:33.000And I'm not going off a rabbit trail here.
00:13:35.000I'm trying to get people to think about how 20 years ago, Almost no one knew the Federal Reserve was private.
00:13:46.000And if you confronted someone with its charter, they would laugh at you and say, shut up, kook.
00:13:51.000Because they didn't want to be involved.
00:13:54.000They just needed some propaganda of the word conspiracy theorist that's simple, that's mindless, that's dumbed down, that's an excuse for them to ignore what you're saying and move on.
00:14:07.000Now, fast forward from 1995 to what's about to be 2015 in just a few weeks.
00:14:18.000People now know the Federal Reserve's private national polls over 90%.
00:14:22.000People want it over 90% in Gallup polls audited or shut down.
00:14:43.000We are on the verge of a complete political awakening and realignment of the magnitude that this world has never seen, not just here in the United States, but all over the globe.
00:14:54.000So, what are the technocrats going to do?
00:14:56.000They're going to use their control of social networks to gatekeep what they allow to catch fire.
00:15:02.000And they're only going to try to have violent socialist, Fabian socialist and communist movements, financed by Wall Street and other financial interests, to be ineffectual revolutions that also discredit revolution.
00:15:18.000Now, I'm not, in the classical sense, a revolutionary.
00:16:24.000That's why they're trying to shut off the power.
00:16:26.000That's why they're trying to increase the prices.
00:16:28.000That's why they're desperately trying to stir up race war all over the country.
00:16:36.000Because they do not have a hope if they don't engage in divide and conquer.
00:16:46.000Yesterday on the Sunday show I talked about Sunday broadcast from 4 to 6 p.m.
00:16:51.000I talked about a comment on Infowars on a story again out of Denver where during a anti-police demonstration anti-police brutality demonstration a couple cops got run over pretty bad two of them are in critical condition and the crowd began chanting hit him again run over him again and we do have that video we're gonna play it later And we said that was wrong.
00:17:18.000And people in the comments, a minority of them, said, oh, now you're for the police.
00:17:26.000Students cheer when Carr runs into cops critically injuring one.
00:17:29.000Now they're saying two are critically injured.
00:17:34.000And then a commenter below said, no, Infowars sides with who's right on a case-by-case basis, not off of what color you are, not off of what group you are.
00:17:59.000Very tribal, very dumbed down, because the cops have now been caught in Indianapolis tweeting out, I can't breathe hashtag, basically making fun of people.
00:19:11.000Now, those are cases people should be looking at.
00:19:13.000But see, the media only picks up on racial incidences because it drives ratings.
00:19:18.000But that's only at the grassroots level in the media.
00:19:21.000At the higher level, it is pushed and promulgated by the talking heads of the White House and the social engineers because it's a Ford Foundation playbook to create division.
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00:24:10.000our own personal Jesus your own at least if you're Tammy Fox personal Jesus
00:24:30.000But now that he can't deliver all the free cars and houses and goodies that he promised back in the 2008 campaign, the Justice Department with the Ford Foundation and others are delivering racial crises and riots and demonstrations aimed at Distracting everyone from the globalist's real agenda.
00:25:00.000I think I'm going to shoot a special report for the nightly news, but I want to spend a few days producing it and really add a lot of research to it with the author of Compromised, Clinton Bush and the CIA.
00:25:17.000He probably hasn't been on in five years.
00:25:19.000And all the other experts and the Iran-Contra documents, because it wasn't Reagan running Iran-Contra, it was George Herbert Walker Bush, with the Democrats as well, they just kind of double-crossed them.
00:25:32.000And the Clintons, it's been declassified, were both CIA, a fake couple.
00:25:38.000They were under the UK Section Chief for the CIA when they were Rhodes Scholars.
00:25:44.000They were installed as co-governors basically in Arkansas.
00:25:50.000George Herbert Walker Bush met 11 times that we know of in the year before Bill Clinton ran as governor.
00:25:58.000He would visit him in Kennebuckport, Maine.
00:26:02.000I mean these people were thick as thieves.
00:26:04.000Now back then they acted like they were enemies.
00:26:08.000But the former CIA director also got caught lying.
00:26:11.000He wasn't made CIA director out of nowhere.
00:26:14.000He was in the CIA right after he got out of the Army Air Corps, it was the Navy Air Corps, I guess he was in the Navy, flying aircraft in World War II.
00:26:27.000So, who you think George Herbert Walker Bush is, isn't who he is.
00:27:04.000We have Laura, we have Barbara, we have Bush Sr., we have Bush Jr., we have Jeb, we have Marvin, we have all of them worshipping the Clintons.
00:27:16.000And let me tell you, when you look at the Bush's agenda versus their rhetoric and compare it with the Clintons, it is a carbon copy.
00:27:26.000A carbon copy, and this goes to the rhinos and the Rockefeller Republicans, as George Herbert Walker Bush called himself back in the 70s.
00:27:37.000They are what they call Rockefeller Republicans.
00:27:39.000If you can't beat Barry Goldwater, if you can't beat the real conservative movement, well, you just simply co-opted.
00:27:47.000National Review was founded by the Central Intelligence Agency to control the right.
00:28:41.000You've often referred to Bill Clinton and you talk about his relationship with your father and how it developed and your mother as well and he's your brother from another mother.
00:28:51.000What does that make Hillary Clinton to the Bush family?
00:29:28.000I just want to remind people of this because I was in a gun shop back in like 2007 and I was complaining about Bush supporting the assault weapons ban and a guy behind the counter at McBride's said, Alex, I'm sick of your always saying something untrue.
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00:32:10.000The government's Department of Homeland Security is buying up loads of ammo.
00:32:14.000At the same time, they're restricting civilians' rights to own and purchase firearms.
00:35:59.000The Rhodes Scholarship, on record set up by Cecil Rhodes, who wrote books On how they were going to establish a world corporate government and fold the British Empire into that by stealth so that no one could stop them from taking over and merging with the United States, which is what the Council on Foreign Relations was set up for in New York City at the Pratt House in 1922.
00:36:41.000They are fronts for the special interests that run this country.
00:36:44.000And then, oh, we've got two different political parties, and it looks like there's differences on the surface, but when it comes down to brass tacks, it's exactly the same.
00:36:54.000And there's a quote by Carol Quigley in his book, Tragedy and Hope, the head of Georgetown Political Science, Bill Clinton's other mentor, that he thanked in his victory speech, by the way.
00:37:08.000He thanked Carol Quigley and David Rockefeller, and then he broke down crying and said that David Rockefeller was like his father.
00:37:18.000And there's a lot of evidence that he's the illegitimate son of the then governor of Arkansas, who was a Rockefeller when he was born.
00:37:28.000And it's admitted that Bill Clinton's mother was a lady of the night.
00:37:35.000And then he's got this supposed father that looks or acts something like him.
00:37:39.000The point is, Clinton, who's famously filmed meeting with JFK when he was a teenager, Bill Clinton meeting with JFK, shaking hands with JFK, being brought to meet with like eight other youth with JFK, he was fast-tracked from the beginning.
00:37:57.000And of course, we said this back in 1995, 1996, 1997, and it sounded crazy.
00:38:09.000and And now we see John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, and others not letting the public see the spending bill over a trillion dollars, not
00:38:32.000Going after him for Fast and Furious or Benghazi, not trying to repeal any of his unlawful executive actions, not trying to stop the open borders, saying they won't repeal Obamacare.
00:38:48.000That we just had a landslide, despite the fact that the blue-blood Republicans tried to block every Tea Party person they could, they failed massively.
00:38:56.000But still, they're hanging on by their fingernails right now.
00:38:59.000Half of the senators that voted for Obamacare are now gone.
00:40:10.000And then, uh, Boehner's number three, and then McConnell's number four, because at least McConnell has un-energetically, but still voted to block anti-gun measures.
00:40:23.000Boehner's actually supported some before.
00:40:25.000Pelosi is just a larcenous demon on every level.
00:40:30.000I mean, these people all make me want to vomit.
00:40:35.000But I've got to be honest with you, I think I dislike Boehner and McConnell at an even deeper level, because I know how bad Pelosi and Harry Reid are.
00:40:45.000With their armed bodyguards, but they want our guns and they think our kids belong to them.
00:41:17.000I mean, if they made Obama truly weak and cut off the funding and used hearings to expose all the crime, to build momentum towards a true impeachment and a reform, they could fix the country.
00:41:29.000But see, the country's working just fine for them.
00:41:33.000We're going into a North American Union.
00:45:26.000Bush and the CIA's ex-officials rebut torture report.
00:45:32.000UNICEF calls 2014 one of the worst years on record for the world's children.
00:45:36.000I love how they always run the program to save the kids.
00:45:39.000It's kind of like Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, former Nazi founder of the Bilderberg Group, got caught using the World Wildlife Fund that he founded as a front for poaching.
00:45:59.000That's kind of like Planned Parenthood's leading marches to quote respect black people and respect black lives.
00:46:07.000Planned Parenthood founded by the Rockefellers on record with the express mission to kill every black person they could.
00:46:15.000Kind of like George Soros again gets awards from the ADL.
00:46:21.000And then he goes on 60 Minutes and admits that he was a collaborator helping find hidden Jews and turn them and their wealth over to be sent to places like Dachau.
00:46:32.000And when he... The clip used to be on YouTube.
00:46:37.000Like, if somebody's got it, send it to us.
00:46:39.000It's in news articles, but I cannot find it.
00:46:42.000My horse, my horse, my kingdom for my horse, Richard III said, my kingdom, or at least a handshake for that clip because Soros is on there and they say, well what responsibility do you hold for helping round up people and do you feel bad?
00:46:57.000He says, no I don't feel bad and I have zero responsibility.
00:47:45.000We're going to also get into another fabricated jobs report and the different protests being organized by people like Rahm Emanuel in Chicago.
00:47:56.000We're going to look at why the Obama administration is so determined to start a race war.
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00:54:53.000Yes, and these four officers were on bicycles at the time of the accident, and one does remain in critical condition, according to the last update from DPD.
00:55:01.000Officer John Adsit, a nine-year veteran of the department, was escorting students from East High School in Denver, who staged a walkout on one of the city's busiest streets, Colfax Avenue.
00:55:11.000Witnesses say at one point, a car accelerated, went up onto the sidewalk, and hit the four DPD officers.
00:55:21.000Denver police say the driver of that vehicle had a medical condition.
00:55:24.000The police union and others say some in the crowd cheered the union, issuing a statement saying, immediately after the horrible accident yesterday injuring four Denver police officers, several parties in the protesting group cheered and chanted, hit him again.
00:55:38.000These actions are not only reprehensible, but quite possibly the most disturbing thing this association has ever heard.
00:55:47.000I don't think it's the most disturbing thing you've ever heard.
00:55:49.000I'm sure you've heard about, you know, dead kids in basements and stuff.
00:55:52.000But it is very disturbing that random people would then see random cops run over and shear it.
00:56:02.000But that's just like our article up on Infowars.com, where police department mocks Garner, who was choked to death, with hashtag we can't breathe tweet.
00:56:15.000Defensive police action backfires on Indianapolis Department who has now deleted the tweet.
00:56:20.000You can see the tweet and the response.
00:56:22.000This is an us against them mentality and it's now being cast as racially based because the Democratic Party wants this to be racially based.
00:56:32.000Is there profiling On black people in many cities, probably.
00:57:01.000But if you go to a job interview wearing a dirty t-shirt versus a sports jacket with a tie and versus being polite, not being polite, just saying thank you, just opening doors for people will make you more successful because then other successful people will think you're higher quality.
00:57:21.000But see, a lot of poor folks today, especially, think it's cool to not be thankful, and cool to be rude, and cool to not dress nice.
00:57:29.000And that's been done by the MTV culture and social engineering to create a permanent, giant, swelling underclass.
00:58:04.000And I think it's equally disgusting to cheer people being run over or to cheer someone being choked to death.
00:58:10.000Even if Garner deserved it, which he clearly didn't, it would have been despicable to make fun of his death, begging for his life, saying, I can't breathe, while they had his arm pinned in a move where you can't roll over.
00:58:25.000And it's going to be killer cops, psychos, that are going to cause a lot of innocent police to get killed in this country.
00:58:32.000Because when the Civil War really kicks off, which we've been predicting for a long time is their goal, it's going to be devastating.
00:58:41.000And I am not going to enjoy watching citizens and the police kill each other while the globalists sit offshore and laugh.
01:00:57.000He was one of the directors of the NSA, and we're going to really do something special here.
01:01:01.000He doesn't do a lot of interviews, does like the London Guardian, things like that.
01:01:05.000He's been on with Yours Truly twice, I think David Knight two or three other times.
01:01:10.000And he's going to come on and give us the latest on the Panopticon spy grid.
01:01:16.000He's going to come on and give us the latest on the police state.
01:01:20.000And we're going to open the phones up then at the bottom of the hour for your concise Focus please, question directly to the biggest NSA whistleblower out there, way beyond Snowden.
01:01:33.000They tried to indict him, they tried to set him up, they tried to put him in jail.
01:03:18.000And we'll go over all of this with William Benny coming up.
01:03:23.000And then, after he's gone, we'll have open phones yet again.
01:03:28.000And I want to ask the listeners, what do we do about the Republican Party and the former President Bush, one and two, 41 and 43, running around saying how much they running around saying how much they love Bill Clinton?
01:03:49.000This blue blood Rockefeller Republican traipsing arrogantly in our faces when there's a political realignment.
01:03:58.000Can't we get rid of Jeb and Hillary in our political process?
01:04:14.000That's what North Korea is, is an imperial, hermit, monarchy, with a toddling, soft, third-generation maggot, feeding on tens of millions of people, quite literally.
01:04:30.000So disconnected from reality, thinks he's cool with Dennis Rodman visiting.
01:04:36.000This is the madness of turning government over to centralized systems.
01:04:41.000It is anathema to a free and open society.
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01:08:30.000Activist on the tape goes on to suggest that discarded ballots could be collected from what she called Ghetto Aurora, saying that African Americans and Mexicans tend to throw out their ballots.
01:08:39.000And as for those programs we do need, I'll make them work better and I'll make them cost less.
01:08:44.000Thousands of federal workers are issued taxpayer-funded credit cards so long as they buy items that cost less than $3,000 or micro-purchases.
01:10:12.000you are either with the republic or against it.
01:10:16.000William Benny, he's just four miles from Fort Meade, headquarters of the NSA, where he was the technical leader and director for intelligence with the NSA before becoming where he was the technical leader and director for intelligence with the NSA before becoming After more than 30 years with the agency, Benny...
01:10:40.000Has been described as one of the most prolific and best analysts and codebreakers in NSA history.
01:10:46.000Benny continues to speak out about the NSA's illegal data collection policies and continues interviews in the media regarding his experiences and communications intercepts by government agencies of American citizens.
01:10:58.000In a legal case, Benny has testified in an affidavit that the NSA is in deliberate violation of the U.S.
01:11:06.000ExposedFacts.org, Whistleblower.org, and he's part of the government accountability movement, and we really appreciate him spending so much time with us.
01:11:17.000This is his, I guess, fifth visit with InfoWars, his third visit on this radio show.
01:11:24.000Remember, they would always say the NSA was not spying on American citizens, and talking to a lot of other whistleblowers and people from Wayne Madsen right through, for all intents and purposes, that was the case.
01:11:59.000So, you go to jail for espionage if you go spy on the CIA or NSA.
01:12:05.000But if they do it, oh well, it's okay.
01:12:08.000And I asked Mr. Binney what he wanted to get into first, and it's the fact that the courts have been rubber stamping this.
01:12:19.000I mean, there won't even be a need for courts soon with all this.
01:12:21.000And, you know, they've caught with parallel construction, these other agencies like the DEA, creating fake investigations to claim they got evidence one way when they got illegally another.
01:12:31.000And then these agencies have all been caught planting evidence.
01:12:35.000Physically at the crime lab, at the FBI.
01:12:37.000We've had the former head of the crime lab on, Dr. Whitehurst, many times.
01:12:44.000Two digital fingerprints being planted.
01:12:49.000So, this is a tool of total social control, in his words, in that London Guardian headline.
01:12:56.000And William Binney joins us, I want him to get into the biggest threats, the breaking news, how private industry is part of this, ways we can try to stop this.
01:13:04.000And then I want to open the phones up, we'll give out a hashtag here in a few minutes, where you can tweet at RealAlexJones on Twitter.
01:13:11.000And you can then send your questions in that I'll also read on air for William Benny.
01:13:17.000But I'll give the number out coming up in about 20 minutes, and that's your chance, we'd love to hear from you, to call in with a quick question or comment for William Benny.
01:13:35.000Get into what's happening with these judges.
01:13:38.000Well, see, it's basically a continuation of what's happened in the Supreme Court.
01:13:45.000When the government gets boxed into a corner where they're threatened by the test of a constitutionality of any of the programs they're running, they lie to the courts, and the courts are letting them get away with it.
01:13:56.000For example, in Amnesty International v. Clapper, that case, that case was at the Supreme Court when the Solicitor General lied to the court saying that Well, if any NSA data was going to be used against an individual, either in court or anywhere else, that the individual would be told so that they could contest the, basically, it's the right to contest discovery that is of information that is libelous or otherwise criminal, implying criminal activity on the part of the individual.
01:15:16.000And the courts seem to be going along with it.
01:15:18.000That is, if I were on the Supreme Court and the Solicitor General did that to me and I found out about it, the first thing I would do would be to reinstate that case back in the court.
01:15:28.000I mean, after all, you don't permit perjury to let you get rid of a genuine concern of the public.
01:16:43.000They know the Fourth Amendment says you don't have data.
01:16:46.000The government doesn't have data on a U.S.
01:16:47.000citizen unless You state the citizen's name, the data you're after, and also show probable cause of why you're going at it, and where you're going to get it.
01:16:56.000Now, all that, none of that is happening with the hundreds of millions of U.S.
01:17:00.000citizens that they're collecting data on.
01:17:47.000Well, that's what's happening internally in NSA now.
01:17:49.000They're talking about having people say, if you see something, say something.
01:17:53.000That's the kind of thing they're talking about internally in NSA now.
01:17:56.000Well, I mean, you know, that's the Stasi in spades.
01:18:01.000I mean, Tom Drake was over in Germany a year or two ago and he met up with an older couple, an older German couple, and they said to him, they said, well, you know, we, we the Germans, we are a post-fascist state and we know it.
01:18:20.000But you, you are, you are in fact a pre-fascist state and don't even know that.
01:18:26.000So, I mean, the point is we have to wake up here.
01:18:30.000What do you do, though, when you're faced with true tyranny?
01:18:33.000This is classical tyranny, not just with the warrantless, ubiquitous, omnipresent spy grid, but the fact that major corporations have lined up to seamlessly Trojan horse surveillance into every device, into our cars, tax by the miles coming out.
01:18:51.000All the smart meters, spying, all the new appliances, with the former CIA director bragging that your washing machine will listen to you.
01:19:00.000This is already going on, and it's becoming ubiquitous, and then it's being used illegally, and it's being used to rig markets, rig the stock market.
01:19:11.000I mean, this is really a 21st century takeover.
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01:24:23.000William Benning, former technical director of the National Security Agency, basically a number two, three, or four position, depending on how you look at it, a major director of the NSA, here with us today.
01:25:14.000Your chance to talk to a very honorable person, in my view, who has a lot of courage and sacrificed their career to try to defend our republic.
01:25:23.000And who worked at the NSA trying to defend us from foreign enemies, which is what it was set up for.
01:25:28.000William, what about the morale at the NSA, from your view?
01:25:32.000And what about your former colleagues?
01:25:35.000A. And then B. Tell folks a little bit about the persecution you've gone through, just to understand the level of tyranny we're dealing with.
01:25:43.000Well, I think I don't talk directly to anybody that works at NSA still, simply because if I did, you know, I'm a target, I have been for quite a while, so they would of course be targeted by the FBI and interrogated by FBI and Internal Security at NSA, so I don't do that to them.
01:26:05.000I know that they've instituted programs that get agency employees to spy on one another, which simply means that it's just like East Germany.
01:26:16.000I mean, you've got your neighbors spying on you, and here it's your neighbors you're working with and trying to do the job.
01:26:44.000It destroys initiative and so on because nobody wants to do anything for fear that somebody will think it's something wrong and so they'll get informed on and be interrogated.
01:26:52.000That's the way it was in East Germany.
01:26:54.000That's why their whole society stagnated.
01:26:56.000So that's a real counterproductive process for them to set up.
01:27:00.000And I know internally that people who have retired from NSA come through the retirement chain, we get the word back from them, saying basically that there's an awful lot of people there who are kind of upset at what they're doing, at spying on domestically.
01:27:18.000But they're so afraid to do anything because they've looked at what they've done to us.
01:27:23.000Which gets into your follow-on point there.
01:27:27.000In order to try to silence anybody from objecting internally in NSA, what they did was they threatened us with persecution and up to 35 years in jail, you know, using the 1917 Espionage Act.
01:27:43.000Uh, which we at that time were simply, we were all staying at the point.
01:27:48.000The only one who was outside the government complaining about it was, was Tom Drake.
01:27:52.000And he was talking to the Baltimore Sun, but he didn't release anything classified.
01:27:56.000And that was, that was agreed to by the government in court.
01:28:00.000So, um, So they were really coming after us just to shut us down from exposing the corruption, fraud, waste, abuse that was going on, as well as all of the unconstitutional activity.
01:28:14.000And they used the FBI first to raid us and take all our property and threaten us with guns, some of us, directly.
01:28:24.000And the follow-on was the Department of Justice used all their power to try to indict us and put us in jail so that we would be out of sight and out of mind permanently, so to speak.
01:28:50.000Well, it's kind of a, you know, it's kind of a, it's really a...
01:28:55.000Strange to be coming out of your shower in the morning and have somebody pointing a gun at you, so you look at the end of a barrel of a pistol as you're coming out of the shower, having no idea why they're doing this to you.
01:29:06.000I mean, after all, we were trying to work within the government all the way up to then, but they just didn't want us doing it.
01:29:25.000That's right, you're doing your job as one of the top code breakers in history, running the NSA, you leave honorably, try to work to the government, and then their answer is to send a SWAT team to your house to intimidate you.
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01:36:42.000William Benning, I want to go to these calls.
01:36:44.000I want to have you be able to speak to any topic you wish, but to imagine you with all these commendations and medals you have, you know, called by Nightline and other operations one of the most successful code breakers and scientists ever helping defend this country against the Soviets and terror groups and many others.
01:37:08.000Go back to that and describe the persecution that goes on when you weren't even going public at that time to try to basically imply that you were a bad guy so they could disappear you down the road.
01:37:21.000I mean, if they can get William Benny, they can go after anybody.
01:37:26.000And then I want to get your view on Snowden, and he says that a revelation's coming out that would bring down the political system.
01:37:34.000Or he said, be careful, I have a revelation that would bring you down.
01:37:38.000Well, what type of revelation could that be, William Benny?
01:37:45.000Well, he may simply be talking about, like for example, CIA was spying on Feinstein's Intelligence Committee when they were preparing that report, again, on terror.
01:37:59.000The report she's trying to get out here recently.
01:38:02.000I think if they look a little closer, they'll find out that that spying is much more extensive than they even think.
01:38:08.000In other words, I think if they look fairly closely, I mean, Russ Tice has said this for several years now, that they have been spying on senators, House of Representatives, judges of the Supreme Court, even in the White House, and also generals and other federal judges and so on.
01:38:27.000So they're looking they're spying the spying network that we've created inside this country is actually spying on the leadership of this country, the ones that have power over them so that they know what their position is and can adjust accordingly, you know, and prepare for it.
01:38:42.000I mean, they're spying on everybody, our leadership in this country as well as everybody else on the planet.
01:38:48.000So this is an uncontrollable these are uncontrollable agencies.
01:38:56.000They have no way of verifying anything they're doing and they let them continue that way, when in fact they should all stand up.
01:39:02.000The problem is, you don't know, and they don't know, the House of Representatives and Senators, they don't know what kind of evidence the intelligence community has accumulated about them and their activities.
01:39:14.000Is it something like J. Edgar Hoover had over the entire Congress.
01:39:20.000He used that power to, it was actually the power he had, was that he may not have known anything about you, but you may think he did.
01:39:31.000So, but he certainly knew a lot about the leadership in Washington.
01:39:35.000Well, we also know those files were a form of internal governmental defamation and slander and libel because they were also filled with disinformation and garbage.
01:39:55.000That plus, in our case, at least in the cases that we had, we knew they were fabricating data.
01:40:02.000And in Tom Drake's case, when they indicted him, the data that they had there was fabricated.
01:40:09.000It was retroactively classified, and then he was charged with having classified material.
01:40:14.000Well, I mean, that's like Framing him.
01:40:18.000I mean, that's a felony and these people should go to jail for that.
01:40:22.000Even Thomas Tam back in 2003 when he was the lawyer in the Department of Justice that was the source of the New York Times article on warrantless wiretapping.
01:40:32.000And when he was, his job at the Department of Justice was to prepare the warrant request for the FISA court, the secret court.
01:40:42.000And so when he was going through that, he was discovering that they had wiretaps already on people that they hadn't gone through the FISA court to get.
01:40:50.000Well, that by definition or by law at the time was a violation of the federal felony.
01:40:58.000In other words, if you didn't have a FISA approved warrant to get a wiretap on a U.S.
01:41:03.000citizen for the intelligence community, then Then you, in fact, were committing a federal felony, and they were doing it by the thousand.
01:41:14.000Wasn't that really part of a larger parallel construction, where they only go get the warrant later once they want to go back and claim that they got the information or the warrant?
01:41:24.000Yeah, that was all part of that, and that had been going on since at least 2001, since after 9-11.
01:41:32.000And Director Mueller of the FBI said they were using that program, Stellar Wind, which is the domestic spying program.
01:41:39.000He said they were using it since 9-11 in 2001, which is October, which is when they created the name Stellar Wind.
01:41:49.000William Binney, Top NSA Whistleblowers, our guest.
01:41:52.000I mean, I'm just a layperson, but correct me if I'm wrong.
01:41:55.000A, when you start snooping on everybody, you create giant troughs of information that could be stolen, hacked, or taken.
01:42:03.000B, you're focusing on so much that you miss the real threats.
01:42:07.000That are specific and can be tracked and focused in on.
01:42:11.000So you blind yourself in a way having too much data.
01:42:13.000It's like having a billion phone messages.
01:42:15.000You can't listen to any of them, basically.
01:42:18.000And then C, and I think this is probably the most important, it creates a whole system of blackmail domestically and will convert you to a tyranny.
01:42:31.000It's already come out for decades they use The NSA, the British NSA, GCHQ, to spy on Parliament.
01:42:39.000And now they're using all this data on each other and it just, I mean, why would the political elite create such a thing and think that they could control it?
01:43:02.000I mean, that's just human nature to have that happen.
01:43:05.000So, I mean, you know, it's only a matter of time, like you say, as to how long it's going to take them to take advantage of all the data they've gotten.
01:43:14.000I mean, it's just a very bad situation and a very bad path that we've chosen to take here down the dark side with Dick Cheney.
01:43:23.000Sometimes you gotta work on the dark side, to quote Dick Cheney.
01:43:31.000And they've taught so many people in public school and in colleges and TV that, oh, if you don't have anything to hide, don't worry about it.
01:44:55.000And the point is that Google and companies do not have the power that government does when it comes to arresting people or, you know, Putting them in jail or fabricating evidence or framing them like they've tried to do to us.
01:45:09.000So, I mean, there's quite a bit of difference between government and at least in terms of power and capability.
01:45:20.000I want to go to some phone calls for William Benny here and also go through this huge list of Twitter questions that we have.
01:45:27.000Let's go ahead and talk to Joseph in Texas.
01:45:31.000Joseph, you're on the air with William Benny.
01:45:36.000I wanted to call in and talk to you guys about, I'm a hairdresser in Dallas and I had a client for a little while this year who was a, he was the VP for the manufacturer that created the MSA Center in Utah.
01:45:51.000And he gave me a lot of, you know, he told me as much as I guess he could about when they were building it and about this data center.
01:45:59.000And I also have another friend of mine who just recently met.
01:46:02.000He works with AT&T on the neural networks collecting the data.
01:46:05.000I wanted to ask some questions and just see if I could get an answer from him.
01:46:12.000I was basically told that the NSA Data Center that they were spying on, You know, everything from our cell phones to our banks, everything, connecting it all.
01:46:24.000You know, and after I heard that, I actually heard a documentary with, uh, you know, from, it was like the Operation Stellar Wind documentary.
01:46:30.000And, um, so I just wanted to hear about that.
01:46:35.000Yeah, that's the whole point of why they had to build Bluffdale with all that storage.
01:46:40.000I mean, it wasn't for metadata, it was for content of communications, you know, like all of your emails and phone conversation recordings and transcripts and things like that.
01:46:52.000The point is, if you wanted to put together all of the relationships of everybody in the world on metadata relationships and build those kind of, what they're called, graphs, or simply social networks of everybody in every domain, phone calls, emails, banking, all of that, then you could do that and store it in a room 20 foot by 40 foot.
01:47:13.000That's all it would take to store all of the relationships in all the domains of everybody in the world.
01:47:19.000And you could keep it there for, I mean, You know, 50 years perhaps, something like that.
01:47:25.000And so the real point was the hundreds of thousands of square feet of storage was needed for the content.
01:48:48.000Do you have any information on geoengineering, climate manipulation?
01:48:52.000Well, I would think that that's one of the things.
01:48:55.000They're certainly monitoring all kinds of research done around the world.
01:48:59.000For example, one of the best ways to find out who's working on quantum computing Is to, for example, go to a quantum computing conference around the world and just go around and collect business cards.
01:49:14.000And you find that that sets up a community and then you work the transactional relationships you're getting across the network to build their social network of who they're working with to work on quantum computing.
01:49:24.000And I'm sure they would do the same thing for any kind of climate alterations and so on.
01:49:29.000I mean, any kind of serious Thank you so much.
01:49:35.000that's going on that would have implications on a wider scale, they certainly would be monitoring just to watch to make sure they knew what was happening.
01:49:52.000It's funny, Mr. Benny, you mentioned about collecting business cards and going to those conferences, that caller that mentioned geoengineering.
01:50:01.000I've gone to these conferences, collected business cards, spoke to people in geoengineering, and I agree, people need to do that.
01:50:09.000I want to mention this document briefly before I get to my question.
01:50:13.000The NSA is trying to attract children through their Change the World program, which includes solving fun puzzles and exploring the world of cryptology.
01:50:31.000You know, it's quite clear bureaucracies and totalitarian agencies like the NSA are using blackmail to their advantage.
01:50:41.000My question is how deep does that rabbit hole go?
01:50:45.000And I spoke to someone who's a contractor in Colorado Springs last week who told me there's a lot of movement from these types of agencies moving towards Colorado Springs and other parts of the country.
01:50:57.000Sure, that's where the alternate government's based.
01:51:01.000But blackmail, you already spoke to that, but what else can you tell us about blackmail, William Benny?
01:51:07.000Well, the problem, of course, is that once you have all that data, that's the power that that data gives you.
01:51:12.000I mean, if you have information like... Let me use an example.
01:51:15.000I was on the Eliot Spitzer Show on Current TV when he was on the show there.
01:51:21.000And, you know, he was... I mean, he never told me this, but I've been inferenced to him.
01:51:27.000I mean, he was after the bankers after the 2008 banking fiasco, and a lot of people lost a lot of money there, and that was because of fraudulent solicitations by the banks, passing around packaged mortgage groups and things like that, you know?
01:51:43.000And so, he was going after them criminally.
01:51:46.000He was, I think, the governor of New York State at the time.
01:51:50.000And as a part of that, all of a sudden the FBI was going through all of his emails and his financial transactions and so on, and they found where he was engaged with a prostitute and they used that to get rid of him.
01:52:09.000So, the point is that the FBI didn't even show probable cause for why they were doing it.
01:52:14.000The probable cause was they wanted him stopping, they didn't want him criminally prosecuting the bankers in Wall Street.
01:52:23.000And so, the people who did that, I mean, Muir was the director of FBI at the time, and Alexander was the director of NSA.
01:52:31.000So the FBI went into the database of emails That Mueller testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee that he had access to.
01:52:40.000Back in the 30th of March of 2011, he testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee that he had access to this database where he could make a query and get all past and all future emails as they came in on a person.
01:52:51.000Well, I mean, when the FBI goes into all those back emails, I mean, looking at data, for example, against Petraeus, I mean, Ellie Spitzer, to get rid of him.
01:53:01.000Well, then they were the ones who helped the bankers out to keep them out of trouble.
01:53:06.000So then you have Mueller and Alexander, after they retire, and they're selling their expertise in cybersecurity.
01:53:16.000At a rate of $600,000 a month or something like that.
01:53:19.000Originally, it started at a million, but now they're selling that to, I believe, the last I heard it was the bankers.
01:53:25.000Well, you know, to me, when I took contract law under government, I mean, one of the first things you made sure you did not do was to give the appearance of a conflict of interest.
01:53:35.000Now that sure smells like a conflict of interest.
01:53:38.000Sure, you've got a select group of banks that control the Federal Reserve, that already issue and control the currency.
01:53:42.000Now they're using the NSA that they helped government build to domestically target everybody, steal data, corner the markets, and just take everything over.
01:53:51.000And get rid of people who are trying to hold you accountable.
01:53:59.000Ex-ZackTamount asks, that's his Twitter name, asks William Binney, what does Mr. Binney think about people waking up to spying, but also the smart TVs that, for those who don't know, Samsung admits that they, quote, record what you say in your house and send it to third parties for, quote, marketing.
01:54:20.000What do you think of just the mainlining of total spying?
01:54:25.000I mean, for me, that is an intrusion, an authorized intrusion, and it's a felony, and they should be charged criminally with it.
01:54:35.000Kavik on Twitter asks, how closely does Canada's CSE work with the NSA, or is it more a data sharing agreement?
01:55:06.000is called first party and the other four are called second party.
01:55:10.000That was the closest relationship in history in World War II.
01:55:13.000They worked together jointly on breaking Enigma codes and also the Japanese Purple Code and the JN-25 Naval Code.
01:55:24.000And those relationships only expanded from there and the cooperation has been very close.
01:55:30.000It's the closest cooperating group of countries in the world.
01:55:35.000Mikhail Phelan, Infowars.com writer, at Mikhail Phelan on Twitter asks, others have mentioned power struggle between the NSA and other intel groups such as the CIA.
01:55:52.000I mean, even before 9-11, I mean, that was part of the, I think, the 9-11 Commission's report, was they need to work a little closer and be a little less rivalry, kind of.
01:56:03.000The point is that there are certain charters that these agencies have, like the CIA's to do HUMINT, the NSA's to do SIGINT, signals intelligence.
01:56:13.000And they jealously guard their charters, and if they come up with information in their areas, that's like knowledge they have that they can directly provide to senior leadership, the president, and so on, for decision-making.
01:56:25.000So that gives them the sense that they have greater influence in the government and what it does and what the president would decide to do by being able to control or to have the most significant intelligence information to present.
01:56:43.000So that creates a rivalry between the agencies and that's been going on for decades.
01:57:06.000A rivalry between these agencies is one that is a fundamental flaw that destroys some of the capabilities that they should have in terms of sharing knowledge so that everybody can be leveraging the same set of information.
01:57:22.000William Benny, we have another question for you from Twitter.
01:57:44.000And those recommendations, the two primary points in those recommendations, one was to force NSA to make a directed selection of information on known targets and things in a zone of suspicion defined around it.
01:58:01.000So that would mean that they would only pull in maybe, they would let 99.99999% of the data pass by and only pull out and store that data that was relevant to targets that they were after.
01:58:15.000I'm going to blow up the Eiffel Tower.
02:00:24.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
02:00:28.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:00:32.000So I have to work sort of the dark side, if you will.
02:00:47.000We've got to spend time in the shadows, in the intelligence world.
02:00:51.000A lot of what needs to be done here will have to be done quietly, without any discussion, using sources and methods that are available to our intelligence agencies, if we're going to be successful.
02:01:01.000That's the world these folks operate in.
02:01:04.000And so it's going to be vital for us to use any means at our disposable, at a disposal, basically, to achieve our objective.
02:01:11.000And now Al Qaeda is bigger than it's ever been and it's renamed ISIS and our own government funded it and William Binney was beginning to get into 9-11 and I've had Colonel Schaefer on, I've had Seibel Edmonds on, I've had the translators, the colonels, I've had so many angles of this covering classified and unclassified information and leaked information that we know they knew about 9-11 and bare minimum stood down
02:01:40.000Six of the ten commissioners have said that.
02:01:43.000William Benny, without giving out any classified information obviously, what can you tell us about 9-11?
02:01:50.000Well, it's more like after we left NSA because of the domestic spying, Tom Drake, who was still there working, ran a program we were developing to On the entire database in NSA, and he found all the data that was necessary to stop 9-11 in their databases prior to 9-11.
02:02:15.000Which simply meant, very simply put, that they could easily have stopped 9-11 if they were doing smart things.
02:02:23.000But what was driving them at the time?
02:02:25.000Well, it was the matter of getting more and more money and building a bigger budget.
02:02:29.000And that's really what their emphasis was on.
02:02:32.000So they weren't trying to do smart things, they were trying to do things that would build their empire.
02:02:39.000And that, to me, is why I keep saying every time I give a talk anywhere, I keep saying they traded the security of the people of the United States and of the world for money.
02:02:55.000multi-million dollar purchases from big tech firms for their supercomputers and fiber-optic and cables and you end up getting nice president jobs a few years later with that revolving door it just turns into a giant boondoggle yeah that's that incestuous relationship that exists between government officials and private industry that close relationship building between them so that they can move from one
02:03:25.000one senior executive job in government to a senior executive job in industry.
02:03:30.000What do you think about moves to cut off electricity and the water supply in Utah to the data center?
02:03:37.000Well, I mean, they could certainly try to do that, but I would think that they would call up the National Guard, nationalize things, and go in and make sure that they could continue to keep the power going.
02:03:51.000To me, the more important way to attack this problem is to go after them legally by the voting and by getting rid of them and firing their worthless personages from Congress.
02:04:04.000Well, you would think that they would be rolling this back with all the lies coming out and that they were deceptive and they're using it against Congress, but instead, like you said, they're just getting the courts lined up to legalize it.
02:04:15.000Right, and they're feeling more confident because some of the judges are getting behind them and backing it.
02:04:21.000And I think that's through fear as well.
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02:09:35.000They are using the NSA and other agencies to target the general public.
02:09:40.000It's a weird feeling when I went to cover Bilderberg and they had plainclothes Marines threatening us, flipping us off, pulling dirty tricks on us, and it later came out and was confirmed that their diplomatic security corps was there.
02:09:56.000They had been trained, the Marines, officers, officers all, some of them like 45 years old, to harass peaceful journalists that they knew were peaceful.
02:10:11.000This is the government we built and paid for being turned against us, and the press is being persecuted.
02:10:19.000We're not troublemakers up here just to say, oh come on, it's all been proven.
02:10:25.000William Benny, before we take some final calls, what do you think hurts the NSA most?
02:10:30.000Because the fact that they lied and denied they were spying on citizens in non-terror related cases, and the fact that it's now come out, I mean, is that the biggest blow to the NSA?
02:10:41.000And where do you think this fight's going?
02:10:44.000Actually, I don't think it... In the long run, I don't think it's been a blow to them.
02:10:47.000I think they got it to the point where they simply don't care what the public thinks.
02:11:03.000That is the thing that would hurt them.
02:11:04.000That's why they got so nervous about Representatives Amos and Conyers and their coalition group to unfund NSA last July.
02:11:12.000I mean, I don't think I told you this on the programs before, but I was scheduled to brief that coalition prior to them voting on unfunding NSA.
02:11:27.000And when they posted that on the congressional record that I was coming down there to testify to them, What happened was that President Obama called a meeting of all the members of the House, all the House Democratic members at the same time.
02:11:42.000So that basically killed that meeting.
02:11:46.000And so that was delayed, but we never rescheduled.
02:11:49.000So they never got, and then they had the vote on it, and they lost the vote because of lobbying by the President and also General Alexander.
02:12:00.000But that was pretty good from a first From a first cut.
02:12:04.000I mean, the basic motivation that started all this was the fact that they began to realize that they weren't being told the truth by the intelligence committees or by the agencies or by the White House, so that they were being lied to all along.
02:12:27.000Hi, I think there might have been a mistake there.
02:12:28.000I'm actually calling from FEMA Region 5.
02:12:30.000But I just kind of wanted to talk to Mr. Benny about what he thought about the racial divide that they're bringing up to kind of distract us from what's going on with the NSA.
02:12:48.000It's a standard thing that a dictator does.
02:12:51.000When you are having internal problems in your country, you create an external threat.
02:12:57.000So in this case, what they're doing is creating other threats or other conflicts to deflect the interest and focus away from core issues that are fundamental to everything we do.
02:13:12.000Yeah, I think it's funny that the issues like Ebola and ISIS have also been kind of swept under the rug and no one wants to focus on that, but they sure want to focus on the race issue of what exactly what they want us to focus on.
02:14:08.000Has it been possible for a long time that the NSA has the capability and technology to actually watch, for example, somebody walking down a street?
02:16:05.000You know, see this has been my major contention that the domestic spying, the reason they're doing it is not because of terrorism, it's because it's for law enforcement and internal security.
02:16:18.000That gives them, see when they look around after 9-11 they have to look around for a A customer set.
02:16:27.000What would be the biggest customer set they could go in for?
02:16:30.000That would be law enforcement because it involves local law enforcement, state and federal law enforcement everywhere as well as all around the world with other law enforcement.
02:16:37.000And then you set up threat fusion centers where you slowly see which cops will go along with illegal spying and then you recruit them in.
02:16:44.000Last year I was at Barton Springs, a big public natural spring.
02:16:47.000There were three cops, well three male cops and three female I think they were all police or in criminal justice.
02:16:56.000They were all laying out talking about how they were going back to get more courses because two of them already worked at the NSA Center in San Antonio and all the rest of them wanted jobs there and how great it was and how powerful they were.
02:17:17.000And then back last year in August, I think it was, Reuters published an article about parallel construction and they did an interview with one of the federal agents involved in looking at the NSA data and doing parallel construction and things like that.
02:17:32.000And he said, this is such a great program, I just hope we can keep it secret.
02:17:39.000Yeah, that's our secret government in operation.
02:17:41.000How about I come to their house and watch them in bed and read their email?
02:17:54.000Mr. Binney, you mentioned that the NSA might come in with the National Guard to nationalize resources in Utah if that state turns off the water.
02:18:05.000My question is, does this mean that the NSA is, in fact, reliant on resources that are provided at the state and local levels, and that if we can't get the Congress to do anything, this might be a last-ditch effort to put a chokehold on them and stop what they're doing?
02:18:23.000I mean, I would advocate hitting your state and local government employees and making sure that they stand up and resist this, and also hit all your people and representatives in Congress.
02:18:35.000And then if they don't start going along, we need to have a unified effort to fire them, get rid of them.
02:18:41.000I mean, I'm not normally for just standard civil disobedience, and I agree with what Mr. Benny's saying in general, but the state Triggering a constitutional crisis, blocking water, cutting off electricity, force the National Guard in to restore the water and the power, to draw attention to it.
02:19:00.000I think these are the type of stunts we need to start seeing be pulled.
02:19:04.000I think the state government could do that, but I wouldn't advocate individuals taking action.
02:19:21.000It is time to have state governments peacefully start moving with injunctions, and kind of like Texas is suing over Obamacare with 17 other states.
02:19:30.000Or like I think we talked about in an earlier program that they could have a constitutional convention where the states would hold it and keep everybody in D.C.
02:19:39.000out of it and then modify the constitution and operate from that.
02:19:49.000In my view, that's exactly what we have.
02:19:51.000Yeah, it's like you come back from being on vacation, your employees have changed the locks, they're telling you that it's their business, their house, and they have no legal standing, but they got a bunch of guns.
02:20:01.000And they're just staring at us, telling us we're terrorists, and then we, we don't confront them, we go home and try to figure out how to be peaceful, and then they send a SWAT team to our home and get us out of the shower.
02:20:19.000And now John Corzine and Goldman Sachs can take billions out of bank accounts and not give it back, and MF Global and nobody gets in trouble.
02:20:26.000I mean, it's just, we're in trouble, people.
02:20:45.000Mr. Benny, I just had to dish out a little bit of gratitude to yourself and obviously Alex Jones for bringing up this kind of stuff and this media operation for years and exposing kind of what's going on.
02:20:57.000And now it seems that it's an agreement.
02:20:59.000It's the consensus among the republics.
02:21:02.000among the public in this republic that were being spied on illegally, that these judges are being, you know, basically with inside baseball blackmailed and the changing laws and the rest of it.
02:21:14.000And I was just curious what you would advise people, and I know I'm not asking just for myself, I'm asking on behalf of others that I talked to that don't feel that this world government, we can all agree it's a real government, we don't believe it can be put back together.
02:21:36.000The Humpty Dumpty is broken and can't be put back together again.
02:21:41.000Well, I would say that there are ways, we have some ways to try to help save and salvage our country.
02:21:48.000And one of the primary ways is to get active in politics and stand up and make sure you're, if you're going to elect somebody as a representative, that they stand up and defend the Constitution and the founding principles of this country.
02:22:01.000That's something that the current crop of people we have down there in Washington aren't doing right now.
02:22:06.000They're violating every way they possibly can.
02:22:09.000And they're getting everybody they possibly can to support what they're doing and cover up for them.
02:22:14.000They're circling the wagons to use the whistleblowers and the political awakening as a way to actually legitimize this giant usurpation of our basic freedoms.
02:22:24.000And if we don't start backing them off at this point, the sky's the limit.
02:22:28.000We've already basically reached the sky.
02:22:56.000The funding comes out of the Department of Defense.
02:22:59.000So the Department of Defense slices out a set of funding for them.
02:23:04.000But it's under, since the FISA laws, they now have committees overseeing them and overseeing their budgets.
02:23:10.000But those committees have been basically usurped and are basically advocates for these agencies.
02:23:16.000And they tend to support them no matter what, which means that their committees get to manage larger budgets as the agencies themselves grow.
02:23:25.000So, from their perspective, they look at that as a positive contribution, when in fact they should be standing up for our rights and stopping these people under the FISA law alone.
02:23:35.000That was the reason the Church Committee said.
02:23:36.000That's what the Church Committee came up with.
02:23:38.000That's what they said, and this is how we're going to try to set up checks and balances.
02:23:42.000Well, those checks and balances Over time, they've proven to just outright fail.
02:23:48.000I mean, the FISA courts are rubber-stamped.
02:23:50.000The intelligence committees are advocates for the agencies to do domestic spying when, in fact, they were created.
02:23:56.000Their founding principles for the creation of those were to prevent spying agencies in the United States from spying on United States citizens domestically.
02:24:11.000It is a criminal big brother revolution by bureaucrats and corporate and government interest to openly execute fraud upon us until it becomes common law precedent.
02:24:23.000And it is just over the top they're getting away with it.
02:24:31.000Well, folks, we are basically out of time with our guest, William Binney.
02:24:37.000We've got Chris, John, Truth Raider, Frank, and many others holding.
02:24:40.000I'll try to answer your questions as best I can.
02:24:44.000Mr. Binney, people constantly say, where are the whistleblowers?
02:24:48.000Where are good people in government, good people in corporations?
02:24:51.000Well, whether it's John Perkins, who was an economic hitman for big banks, or whether it's Colonel Schaeffer, or General Benton K. Parton, Or countless other people.
02:25:01.000We have had on this broadcast, Tosh Plumlee, Celica Steele, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds.
02:25:11.000Whistleblowers from state, federal, international level.
02:25:15.000Wolfgang Wudarg, the head of the EU vaccine program, admitting the vaccines are tainted.
02:25:20.000I mean, the truth is, we actually have more people in major corporations and governments that do go public, and then the public doesn't get behind them, or listens to mainstream media demonizing them, to the point of now, Where they're arresting and persecuting the press, not just people that internally blew the whistle and gave up your career heading up a major agency.
02:25:42.000I mean, it's just, I think it's the immorality and the laziness of the American people that at the end of the day is allowing this.
02:25:51.000I don't think we are the progenitors of it, but we're the people that allow it.
02:25:56.000And as Eric Hoffer said, propaganda does not deceive people, it merely helps them deceive themselves.
02:26:43.000Well, you're pointing out some of the Some of the very short-sighted, finite thinking that people went through when they first decided to do these kinds of things.
02:26:53.000And I start with Cheney and his dark side business.
02:26:56.000Instead of focusing on doing the intelligence business and the military business in a focused, disciplined way, he went on a scatter approach.
02:27:07.000Let's go after everything and do everything we possibly can to ensure we get information.
02:27:12.000Well, I mean, it's been shown for a long time by any numbers of Of studies and examples, testimony from various people that torture doesn't work, and if you torture people, they'll tell you anything you want them to tell you.
02:27:24.000And so, what that means is you need to do a disciplined approach, and I think the FBI had at one point, anyway, they were thinking that torture was not the way to go either, and that there were other ways to get information and get it reliably.
02:27:38.000And certainly we knew from the Stigin business that that was true, and They went down a very bad path there.
02:27:44.000They went down a very bad path everywhere.
02:27:46.000I think the dark side is just the bad path.
02:28:13.000And now we know about all the illegal spying, but just, you know, write a book about your experiences.
02:28:17.000They can't stop you from writing about the persecution you've gone through.
02:28:21.000Really, you know, I see it as a modern jungle.
02:28:27.000Just like the jungle exposed child labor and the Rockefeller factories, I think your book or another big whistleblower book Not so much getting into the spying even, but just the response to it could be made into a film, you name it, and things like that will turn around our society.
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02:34:56.000But the UN makes them all look like angels.
02:35:01.000And it says they've been orphaned, kidnapped, tortured, recruited, raped, and even sold as slaves!
02:35:08.000The same New York Times two years ago admitted that the UN in the Congo was going in and killing whole villages of people that wouldn't leave their own ancestral land because they had promised it as a carbon sink under the UN.
02:35:21.000Oh, you can have mines over here for big corporations, but there has to be an offset now.
02:35:26.000This land can't have people on it, so we're going to force you off.
02:35:29.000I mean, I remember, it had to be like 1998.
02:35:32.000If somebody's got National Geographic, you say, find it for me.
02:35:37.000I was like 98 because I covered it on air a bunch, maybe 99.
02:35:40.000It was articles about Burma and a couple of the places about UN buffer zones in those countries and it showed UN troops and it said they shoot anyone trying to come in, period.
02:35:54.000And how they'd run people off their ancestral lands there.
02:35:57.000I mean, I know that's on record, they did that.
02:35:59.000The UN reportedly killed tens of thousands in Burma alone, but there it was in an article about how good it was, with liberals reading it.
02:36:10.000So see, I see an article where the UN's trying to save the kids again.
02:36:16.000Remember, Prince Bernhardt founded the World Wildlife Fund.
02:36:20.000The other cause-celeb thing of every young college girl.
02:36:26.000He used it on record as a front, look it up, for running giant poaching operations in Africa.
02:36:34.000You know how much you can get for all that ivory and stuff?
02:36:36.000Especially in China where they grind it up and eat it as a medicinal?
02:36:40.000For tiger claws and all the rest of it?
02:36:44.000Last time I heard, I think a tiger claw is something like $5,000 a gram or something ridiculous.
02:36:52.000The point is, is that It'd be like Count Dracula running a blood bank.
02:37:17.000Nothing against, you know, entertainment for the troops or whatever.
02:37:20.000But it was founded by George Herbert Walker Bush's dad, Prescott Bush, when he was about to be indicted by the McCormick-Dickstein Committee, basically, for being the main Nazi collaborator, so he comes out with a thing for the troops!
02:37:34.000That's the thing about knowing history, is that it's so frustrating, you see one article like this, and then it makes you think of all the stuff they're doing, and it's always irritating to see the very people involved in all this, evil, posing as the good guys.
02:37:54.000Here's another one on the New York Times.
02:37:56.000Bush and CIA ex-officials rebut torture report.
02:38:01.000The new Senate report, that's a whitewash, admits the torture.
02:38:05.000The Democrats are just trying to score some political points.
02:38:08.000That's why the CIA was spying on them illegally.
02:38:12.000But it doesn't make Dianne Feinstein good that she's being spied on.
02:38:14.000See, it's just a ship of rats fighting with each other.
02:38:18.000But the issue here is, back when they thought they had America eating out of their hand, they admitted torture on television.
02:38:23.000Why, Jack Bauer tortured every night on 24.
02:39:53.000And that's one reason they ended up winning the public support and winning the war because there was a moral high ground that had to be attained.
02:40:02.000George Washington wasn't a wimp because he didn't torture and he didn't rape and didn't loot.
02:40:07.000He knew he had to have the moral high ground.
02:40:11.000Now he did sit down every morning and sign death warrants on traitors that were working with the British who would be assassinated.
02:40:26.000So, that's the difference, ladies and gentlemen, and it's a guarantee that we're going to Hades in a handbasket with all the garbage that's going on.
02:40:39.000And I've got three children, and I love them, and I want them to have a future with your children, and that's why we've got to turn this around.
02:40:50.000Now, there's a story up on DrugsReport.com.
02:40:58.000He launched profanity-laced tirades against the press.
02:41:01.000According to ABC News journalist Ann Compton, Barack Obama launched a profanity-laced tirades against the press in an off-the-record meeting with reporters.
02:41:18.000Now he has acid reflux and all that stuff.
02:41:20.000In a C-SPAN interview, he also derided the president for leading the most opaque, that means hard to see through administration, of any I have covered.
02:41:30.000This is just the degeneration of government.
02:41:34.000The journalist who retired in August after a 40-year career revealed to C-SPAN's Brian Lamb, I've seen in the last year Obama really angry twice.
02:42:15.000One, profanity-laced, where he thought the press was making too much of scandals that he didn't think were scandals.
02:42:24.000Another, where he took us to task for Not understanding the limits he has with foreign policy and the way he's dealing with the Middle East and Iraq and Afghanistan.
02:42:36.000And I don't find him apologetic, but I find him willing to stand up to the press and look them in the eye, even though it was off the record, and just give us hell.
02:42:48.000From his point of view, he may, but we cover what we are allowed to cover.
02:42:54.000And when policy decisions... And this is all about how the press is in a fight with him, and how she was there, and she's not going to let him boss her around.
02:43:26.000As soon as I'll have guests during the break start telling me stuff off the record, I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, I go, I trust my crew, but this isn't really off the record.
02:43:33.000You got a bunch of people listening to this.
02:43:36.000And to watch them, all these swollen people, because they work for mainstream media, acting like, you know, they're sycophantic journalists and I'm not.
02:43:59.000I've interviewed scores of whistleblowers.
02:44:02.000And I'm just so sick of these sophisticated, swollen, dishonorable pieces of trash up there about how they're a big journalist and they're on ABC News.
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02:48:49.000The point I wanted to ask, and I thought it would be appropriate for Mr. Binney, but I'm sure you will appreciate also, is the attorney's skill of the black arts word crafting.
02:49:00.000They seem to want to deem to term this Warrantless data that they obtained without any probable cause for future pro se executions is data instead of warrantless evidence that's being gleaned for future pro se executions.
02:49:39.000Well, it's designed to actually make us blind from real threats, because the globalists run those, while spying on good people in government.
02:49:47.000The main focus now is spying on good people.
02:49:51.000Imagine William Binney is secretly testifying to Congress, trying to fix things internally, the former head of the NSA, and they SWAT team him at his house when he's in the shower in the morning to mess with him.
02:50:05.000I mean, imagine being the FBI SWAT team.
02:50:21.000I mean, it's purely how out of control is the Justice Department and the Obama administration and all these agencies if they're arresting people like Drake and others?
02:50:32.000I mean, it's not like there's Snowden who ran to Russia to release the info.
02:50:37.000But see, what was Snowden supposed to do then?
02:50:39.000If they're arresting people for nothing, then he did the right thing.
02:50:44.000Well, I was just going to bring up the fact that Valerie Jenrette in the White House, who's never been vetted, is actually the Colonel Edwin Mandel House for this administration.
02:50:57.000You're right, and that's another thing.
02:50:58.000As long as you're with the system, you can leak intel everywhere, you can blabber.
02:51:02.000It's just, this country's in danger just for the incompetence of these crooks.
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02:55:38.000Yeah, so much of this crime going on, black on white, is the target of criminals who are having to be black as white because it's almost like that's an okay thing now.
02:55:48.000Just like I've used the analogy or historical example of people that would beat up gay folks and rob them saying, well, they're gay, they deserve it.
02:56:27.000And if you are familiar with your history of Stauffenberg and the co-plotters, they had assembled a committee of German civilians to take over as soon as they got rid of Hitler and his henchmen.
02:58:15.000Yeah, Alex, we just had an article in the Courier Journal about these, after all this Ferguson, New York City problems that we've been having, now the local police department here is all of a sudden going to get cameras on their chest.
02:58:26.000My question about these things that I'm concerned about, this is all digital database.
02:58:30.000Does that information go in through those cameras?
02:58:34.000Yes, they are going to basically keep all of it, and I'm not against it overall.
02:58:39.000Problem is, cops just turn them off and say they malfunction when they feel like it.