Another week of betrayal by the GOP to their voters, to their conservative voters, and to the conservative congressmen who have not been given a chance to see what's in a massive spending bill for the second time in two weeks. We're also going to talk about the massive betrayal of the American public who voted for Obama because they thought he was going to clean up the torture that was going on in the CIA.
00:00:24.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:28.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:32.000Welcome to the Alex Jones Show on this Thursday, December 11, 2000.
00:00:42.000Another week of betrayal by the GOP to their voters, to their conservative voters, even to the conservative congressmen who've not been given a chance to see what's in a massive spending bill for the second time in two weeks.
00:00:59.000We're also going to talk about the massive betrayal of the American public.
00:01:04.000Specifically, a lot of Democrat voters who voted for Obama because they thought he was going to clean up the torture that was going on in the CIA.
00:01:13.000Instead, what they did was they rewarded the people who had been in charge of that.
00:01:17.000We're going to look at the big picture of the torture report.
00:01:20.000We're also going to talk to Joe Biggs, who was in Afghanistan, Iraq.
00:01:25.000We're going to talk to him about what he saw on the ground.
00:01:28.000As he mentioned, he's delivered people to facilities that he believed they were being tortured, facilities where he didn't see the people in some cases come out.
00:02:23.000But the day is coming where there's going to be a day of reckoning.
00:02:26.000If it doesn't happen to them on this earth, it's going to happen eventually.
00:02:30.000I don't want this stuff done in my name.
00:02:32.000A lot of us have been saying this for a long time, but it's amazing how some people are now backing off.
00:02:38.000Some people who are very critical of this are backing off.
00:02:41.000People who would have criticized and did criticize Obama's attempt to immediately put John Brennan, one of the people who was in charge, very high up in the CIA, apologist for the enhanced interrogation.
00:02:55.000He wanted to make him head of the CIA immediately, but then wisely backed off and did that about five years later.
00:03:02.000In the meantime, they use John Brennan as someone laying down legal cover for drone assassinations.
00:03:26.000They released it at 1030 at night on a Tuesday, then had to have that vote on the following Thursday.
00:03:31.000They've done it again this week, again with the omnibus spending bill.
00:03:35.000And it's not just a continuing resolution to go for a couple of months.
00:03:38.000This is going to continue the government all the way through until September 2015.
00:03:43.000We're going to look at what they crammed in this bill and didn't give anybody a chance to take a look at it.
00:03:48.000Remember when everybody criticized Pelosi for saying we're going to have to pass Obamacare so we can see what's in it?
00:03:54.000The Republicans pledged at that time that they would give the public, give Congress time to take a look at these massive bills instead of cramming them through at the last minute.
00:04:05.000But then of course this week we see that we've got a continuing resolution slash omnibus bill.
00:04:09.000They call it the cromnibus because it's kind of a hybrid between the two.
00:04:27.000They said they were going to shut down.
00:04:28.000They're not going to shut down Obamacare.
00:04:30.000They're not going to shut down the amnesty.
00:04:32.000They're going to continue to fund all of that.
00:04:34.000And of course, as rumored, as feared, there is a massive backpedaling on the little bit of control that was put on the banks in the wake of TARP.
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00:10:01.000We're a dictatorship with nuclear weapons and militarized police.
00:10:05.000Never been equipped like this before in the past, and never had the kind of access to our data.
00:10:10.000We're going to talk about that, we're going to talk about the torture report, and we're going to talk about the new continuing resolution omnibus bill that the Republicans are sneaking through the House as we speak.
00:10:39.000All this stuff was put through without anybody having any time to look at this.
00:10:43.000No public oversight, no understanding of what they're voting on.
00:10:46.000Sounds kind of like Pelosi, doesn't it?
00:10:48.000They criticized Pelosi for that, for saying we have to pass a bill so we can see what's in it.
00:10:52.000That's the way the Republicans have operated twice now in two weeks.
00:10:56.000They did the same thing last week with the defense spending bill, bringing it out at 1030 on a Tuesday and forcing it through on a Thursday for a vote.
00:11:04.000Now, as we just saw that breaking the law opening there, it's interesting to see Obama stumbling on his own answers here over a heated immigration exchange with reporter Jorge Ramos.
00:11:14.000This is from IJ Review, talked about this.
00:11:17.000He heckled the president, essentially saying, if you, as you're saying, always had the legal authority to stop deportations, then why did you deport two million people?
00:12:14.000They signed, Obama signed the NDAA the first time on a New Year's Eve.
00:12:18.000They put Obamacare through on Christmas Eve.
00:12:21.000Of course, the Federal Reserve was created on a Christmas Eve back in 1913, so they always like to pull these things up in the holidays when people aren't really paying much attention, just like they'd like to dump the news on the weekend.
00:12:34.000Bad news on the weekend so that nobody's paying attention.
00:12:37.000But one person in Congress is paying attention.
00:12:39.000Justin Amash noticed a bill and he talked to his colleagues about it, said we need to have a roll call vote on it.
00:13:03.000They say, he points out in his analysis of it, he said, this section of the law contemplates that those private communications of Americans obtained without a court order may be transferred to domestic law enforcement for criminal investigation.
00:13:20.000Section 309 provides the first statutory authority for the acquisition, retention, and dissemination of U.S.
00:14:10.000The American people didn't know anything.
00:14:13.000That's the biggest lie of all, to say that nobody knew anything.
00:14:18.000We're going to talk to Joe Biggs at the bottom of the hour about what he saw when he was abroad with the Army in Afghanistan and Iraq, how they would have people delivered what he believed was torture.
00:14:53.000Cops allow a Saudi baby, a Saudi with a dead baby in the trunk to drive away so as not to offend the Muslims.
00:15:00.000That's the story up by Paul Joseph Watson on Infowars.com.
00:15:03.000They say the cop pulled over a vehicle.
00:15:05.000It had paper tags and a registration violation.
00:15:08.000It had three Saudi Arabians with Saudi driver's licenses who told the officers they had a dead child in the trunk prepared for an Islamic burial at a mosque in Franklin, Tennessee.
00:15:19.000And the officer, not wanting to be disrespectful to the men or their faith, just let the car drive away without checking the trunk to see if the story was true.
00:15:30.000Diplomatic immunity, the same thing that we're seeing with People who are coming here illegally through the borders from any country, they can come here and do anything they want.
00:15:41.000We've seen this over and over and over again.
00:15:45.000And as he points out in his article, he says, it'll infuriate many Americans who believe that illegal immigrants and other foreigners are being given free reign to commit crimes.
00:16:56.000See, that's what you blow when the guy with a gun takes all that stuff from you.
00:17:00.000Because this isn't really going to do them much good.
00:17:03.000But it's pretty amazing that the bankers think that they need to send this out.
00:17:06.000And of course, it's all going to the big seven or eight banks.
00:17:08.000These survival kits will be delivered to every major bank In the U.S., Bank of America, American Express Bank, Capital One, Citicorp, JPMorgan, Chase, Wells Fargo, the usual suspects are all going to get their survival kits.
00:17:23.000Actually, you know, it's amazing how much the CIA is like the Federal Reserve.
00:17:30.000In both cases, They appear to be under the control of the government, and yet they are the ones who are actually controlling the government.
00:17:39.000That appearance of control is merely where the facade government, the visual government, this propped-up, phony government, has a hearing and appoints the head of the Federal Reserve or the head of the CIA.
00:17:54.000After that, there's no auditing of anything that they do.
00:17:57.000Nobody's going to go to jail, no matter what they do.
00:18:24.000and uh... nobody else is going to go and we've seen that before haven't we and we said before i just did a uh... report interview on monday night uh... talking to someone who has made the connection between the mortgage pump-and-dump and uh... tracking it all the way through the money being channeled through swiss banks of course we've talked in the past about whistleblowers exposing money laundering by the biggest banks and they get a slap on the wrist fine from the justice department
00:18:52.000The Justice Department says that they're too big to jail, just like they're too big to fail, but it goes beyond that.
00:18:58.000He's got some contacts in the intelligence community that say that they're actually funding the black ops.
00:19:28.000The Prime Minister there, Abe, has put in a law that will essentially jail civil servants who leak state secrets up to ten years in prison.
00:19:39.000Journalists who encourage whistleblowers to leak could get up to five years.
00:19:44.000See, it's the whistleblowers and the journalists who are going to go to jail, not the criminals who are torturing, not the people who are running the dark operations who are funding the drug war, not the people who are actually breaking the law, but the people who expose them.
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00:24:25.000I'm David Knight, your host on this Thursday.
00:24:27.000We're going to be talking to Joe Biggs in the next segment.
00:24:31.000He's going to talk to us about what happened, what he saw at the ground level.
00:24:35.000I want to look at the big picture right now about this torture report.
00:24:38.000What does this tell us about our government?
00:24:41.000And of course, as I pointed out in the last segment, Just like the Federal Reserve, there's the illusion of control over the CIA because we have these public hearings where they appoint the head of the Federal Reserve or they appoint the head of the CIA.
00:25:42.000We've got John Brennan, who's the current head of the CIA.
00:25:44.000This was somebody Who at the very beginning was involved in all of this in terms of apologizing for the torture.
00:25:52.000He was somebody that Obama wanted to put into place back in 2008, and when he came back five years later, he didn't put him in charge of the CIA.
00:25:59.000At that time he had nominated somebody else, but they kind of played musical chairs with the power elite.
00:26:05.000They rotated him back into position five years later, so people wouldn't really understand that Obama's talk about controlling the CIA, the torture, the foreign wars, was all just a sham for his voters.
00:26:24.000And they didn't want to have him in in 2008.
00:26:27.000And as this analysis from Conor Friedersdorf in The Atlantic pointed out when they were looking at the confirmation hearings of Brennan in 2013, he said back in 2008, Andrew Sullivan said, when Obama first considered Brennan as CIA chief, Andrew Sullivan said, if Obama picks him, it will be a vindication of the kind of ambivalence and institutional moral cowardice that made America a torturing nation.
00:26:54.000It would be an unforgivable betrayal of his supporters and his ideals.
00:26:58.000And then, Conor Friedersdorf points out that five years later, Andrew Sullivan doesn't want to oppose his nomination, saying people change.
00:27:11.000The people who changed are people like Andrew Sullivan and the ACLU, who were right at one point in time on this issue, but then changed their minds.
00:27:20.000The ACLU's response to this Senate report Was to say that we need to have Obama pardon the people involved.
00:27:29.000Because what he's doing now is he's tacitly pardoning them by not taking any action, not putting anybody in jail, not prosecuting anyone, not even firing anybody.
00:28:23.000He accused the CIA and the White House, and that would be the Obama White House, of lying about brutal CIA interrogations and continuing to cover them up.
00:28:32.000Yes, that's exactly right, and I'm glad to see that he's, I disagree with him on many issues, but you know, we need to stand with people when they're doing the right thing, even if they're only right on one issue.
00:28:43.000Mark Udall has been really solid on this.
00:28:45.000At one point in time, he was saying that he was going to read the entire classified report, 6,000 pages, into the Senate record.
00:28:53.000They said the last time that happened was by Alaska Senator Mike Gravel back in the 1970s.
00:28:58.000He read the Pentagon Papers into the record.
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00:33:34.000On this Thursday, December 11, 2014, I'm joined now with Staff Sergeant Joe Biggs, retired.
00:33:41.000We're going to talk about his personal experience, what he saw as far as torture goes.
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00:34:50.000Now, Joe, before the break, I was talking about how the people that we see now as head of the CIA, head of Homeland Security, head of the FBI, these are guys who are all doing cover for all this torture at the top level.
00:35:04.000Now, of course, we're told by this whitewash report from Senator Feinstein that nobody knew.
00:35:10.000I mean, for ten years we've been talking about this at least.
00:35:14.000Everybody's been talking about what's going on and complaining about it, but of course the White House didn't know until after legal clearance was given and then they told George Bush about it.
00:35:23.000Colin Powell didn't know about any of this.
00:35:25.000These are reports we're seeing from NBC.
00:35:27.000These are people who should know about this.
00:35:30.000So if they didn't know about that, Then what are they doing in the position that they're in?
00:35:34.000I mean, at the very least they should be fired, but of course nobody is going to go to jail for any of this.
00:35:39.000Instead, not only is nobody going to get punished, not only is nobody going to get shamed, and I think that was a big part of this of course.
00:36:09.000Kurt Nimmo's got a story up on InfoWars.com today.
00:36:12.000Nazis designed the torture instruments for maintenance of CIA's terror war charade.
00:36:18.000He points out that this goes all the way back to Operation Paperclip, and even further than that, it goes back to the Nazi regime of 1937.
00:36:27.000They actually had a German term for enhanced interrogation.
00:36:31.000Something they could do that would essentially not show up and cause any embarrassment for the people.
00:36:38.000And then as a reporter, he cites here, Annie Jacobson says, former Nazis were at the forefront of developing torture techniques for the US government.
00:36:45.000Same thing we've seen With the biochemical weapons that were brought into Fort Detrick and other places.
00:36:52.000They brought these guys in from Germany, from Japan, who had been experimenting on people.
00:36:58.000They brought them in and made them the core of our bioweapons research.
00:37:04.000They also did the same thing at the CIA, making them the core of torture.
00:37:07.000They say the work took place at a clandestine facility in the American zone of occupied Germany called Camp King.
00:37:13.000The facility's chief medical doctor was Operation Paperclips Dr. Walter Schreiber, former Surgeon General of the Third Reich.
00:37:22.000The activities that went on in Camp King between 46 and the late 50s Have been never fully accounted for by the Department of Defense or by the CIA just as we're seeing today.
00:37:33.000So this is something that is a long-standing problem.
00:37:36.000It's not something we're just learning about from Dianne Feinstein.
00:37:40.000What Dianne Feinstein is trying to do is to give herself and Republicans immunity from prosecution and blame it all on the CIA and then the CIA nothing happens to them because they can say everything is a matter of national security.
00:37:54.000Well, the people they put in charge of the salt box area overseas where they were interrogating people, they said that the person they put in charge had never even worked in interrogations and or worked around prisoners.
00:38:07.000So you're going to put these people in charge of trying to get human intelligence and they have no clue what they're doing whatsoever?
00:38:14.000Let's talk about what you saw there because when you and I went to Fort A.P.
00:38:18.000Hill and we were looking at The American replica city that they have built there for the military to train and for police to train against the American people.
00:38:30.000And that's where this is all coming, folks.
00:38:33.000We talk about the fact that the head of Homeland Security, the head of the FBI, these are guys who were involved in Making legal excuses to try to give legal cover for this torture operation.
00:38:46.000They were promoted to the head of our civilian law enforcement agency.
00:38:51.000So we were at this training facility looking at what they had there in terms of buildings and we came across a building and you said that looks very much like the building that we used to deliver people to for what you believe was torture.
00:39:18.000And now I'm seeing some of those same things integrated from combat theater overseas, now into these training exercise areas like Fort A.P.
00:39:26.000Hill, or like the one at Camp Lejeune, where now you're seeing these torture chambers being put into small-town USA training areas.
00:39:34.000And then we have the Marines out in L.A.
00:39:38.000So it's scary what it looks like it's coming to.
00:39:41.000Yeah, and on the very same day that Dianne Feinstein releases her report, they pass the NDAA again for the fourth time under her leadership.
00:39:51.000And of course that's going to have indefinite detention by the military without trial.
00:39:56.000Presumably rendition as well as torture would all be included in that.
00:40:00.000Anybody that they claim is an enemy combatant.
00:40:03.000And then we see today that they have just tried to give themselves legal cover to spy on all Americans' communications without ever pretending that they need to go before a judge or get any verification from that in terms of a subpoena or a court order as required by the Constitution.
00:40:19.000They just ignore the Constitution and pass their law.
00:40:22.000Well, it was interesting for me, David, when I was overseas.
00:40:24.000We would catch people who we knew, and I could tell with a gut feeling and seeing the things that they've done, were bad people.
00:40:31.000We would catch them and they would release them two, three days later.
00:40:35.000Now, people that, for beyond my reasons, they would take and torture.
00:40:41.000You know, we would release, catch and release these people who make IEDs and things like that.
00:40:46.000People who actually went out and had a record of attacking coalition forces and attacking with suicide bombers and placing IEDs and small arms attacks, complex attacks.
00:40:56.000Those people, in essence, would be hided, put into a biometric scanning system and then released to go back out and...
00:41:04.000Continue to do bad stuff, but we would take these people from like opium fields and farmers And if they didn't want to play ball they'd come back And they'd go in these rooms, and we'd have to sit outside.
00:41:13.000I'd have to hear screaming It's one of those things to hear a grown man scream So much that it goes from screaming to weeping and the scariest part was when it went to silence Mm-hmm, and you didn't hear anything else again Wow and not ever knowing if that person was gonna come out or not because sometimes they did sometimes they didn't and
00:41:33.000That's just horrific, and of course we've seen some new things come out of this in terms of rectal feeding, nobody had been talking about that, but we've known about the waterboarding for quite some time, and one of the things that we were told that they now say is a lie, of course we knew it was a lie, that they were getting effective intelligence out of all this.
00:41:51.000When you talk about them catching, torturing, and releasing, The thing that went through my mind was going back to the Vietnam War and I used to hear people that were a little bit older than me that went there talking about how they would go in and they would take an area and then they would just walk out and leave it again.
00:42:08.000And it's like what's going on with that?
00:42:10.000The only way that that makes any sense is if you understand That the people who are running these wars want it to continue.
00:42:25.000And that's what happened with the drone program.
00:42:27.000I think it's amazing that Brennan, who is running legal cover for them, and was at the CIA, he's running legal cover for the enhanced interrogation, and of course he's Obama's first choice for CIA director, but then postpones it for five years.
00:42:40.000In the meantime, he puts him in charge of the drone assassination program.
00:42:43.000And, of course, he said a lot of interesting things about that.
00:42:46.000In June 2011, current CIA Director Brennan claimed U.S.
00:42:50.000counterterrorism operations had not resulted in, quote, a single collateral death in the past year.
00:42:55.000Then, as they look at it, he goes, well, alright, 45-56.
00:42:59.000Then a little bit later, uh, 76, what they said was, Brennan claimed that he said we had no information about any civilian non-combatants, and what people said was, this was based on the assumption that anybody that was military-aged, any military-aged male, was a combatant, unless proven otherwise.
00:43:19.000You know what's interesting though is we released five top Taliban leaders for a Bo Bergdahl and yet there's still people in Guantanamo that they say they have no reason to hold them whatsoever and they know that these enhanced torture techniques don't work at all.
00:43:34.000They don't get any viable information whatsoever out of them.
00:43:37.000Well one of the things that we had in a story that came out, one of the quotes that came out of The report was that someone said, uh, you're never going to get out of here because we don't want anybody to know what we did to you.
00:44:06.000I didn't say they interviewed anybody who was a victim.
00:44:09.000These are reports that we heard of people who did get released, I believe.
00:44:14.000There wasn't any discussion of what was going on in any direct sources after six years of this.
00:44:21.000They never talked to anybody that did this or anybody that suffered from this.
00:44:26.000They just basically gave it a whitewash, looking at emails and documents.
00:44:30.000Well, one night we caught some guys who were emplacing IEDs.
00:44:33.000We saw them through our NVGs and put bags over their head, zip-tied it, separated them, you know, 50 yards apart.
00:44:43.000And then the guys would go up that were with us, they're not regular military, I'll say that, would go in there and you would see them like poking at him and like, you don't speak English do you?
00:44:53.000And you know the guy would just kind of sit there and he's like, I bet there's one word you do know though, Guantanamo.
00:44:58.000And you see the guys literally urinate themselves in fear because they know that even if they No matter what they could do at this point in time, they're done.
00:45:20.000You know, as you mentioned, they also, they mentioned just one person in this whole report that died from hypothermia because he was left exposed in a cold area on a concrete floor.
00:45:33.000I'm sure there's many more than that that died.
00:45:35.000And I'm not underestimating any of this waterboarding or any other stuff as being truly horrific, but some of the stuff that they did was just designed to humiliate people, making them wear women's underwear and that sort of thing.
00:45:46.000And when I look at that, I look at it and say, this is how it's beginning in the U.S.
00:45:51.000Much of what we see going on now with the TSA is merely humiliation.
00:45:58.000Once they take away your dignity, they take away your freedom.
00:46:01.000Once they take away your freedom, they can torture you, they can do anything they want to to you.
00:46:05.000And of course we just had William Binney on again, talking to Alex, and he said over and over again that what we have here is not an authoritarian regime, but a totalitarian regime.
00:46:15.000And the way that they get there is by grabbing our information.
00:46:18.000And today we see another massive grab if you will of uh congress trying to pass a law that presumes to give them the authority to take people's communication it seems like uh basic training for civilians now that's what the tsa is doing because when you're a soldier what they do they break you down they humiliate you treat you like crap tell you you're nothing till you get to a point where you're just empty bottomless and all they can do is build you back up the way they want you yes and it seems like that's what's starting to happen now with the american pull up
00:46:48.000that's what they're trying very good analogy it's It's all a PSYOP.
00:46:59.000You know, one of the things that I saw, one of the reactions I saw that really stuck out to me was Chris Matthews talking to somebody who was complaining about the torture, and he says, come on.
00:47:09.000You're crazy if you think Al-Qaeda is going to stop torturing if we do.
00:47:13.000And I guess the question is, how do you tell then the difference between Al-Qaeda and the United States if we both torture?
00:47:20.000How do you tell the difference between the United States and the Nazis when we bring them in with Operation Paperclip as consultants to teach us how to do what they did?
00:47:44.000They're going, well, the Taliban does it, so we might as well do the same thing.
00:47:48.000Yeah, it's always, I forget who said this, but somebody said, when you fight Monsters you have to be careful that you don't become a monster yourself, and I see that happening It's happened in America now.
00:47:59.000We see all these things being done under color of law I think it's interesting to go back and look at let's take a look at the FBI director James Comey and of course He seemed to be somewhat reluctant, but he went ahead and played ball.
00:48:14.000He was a Deputy Attorney General at the time.
00:48:16.000The New York Times reported that he argued repeatedly that the U.S.
00:48:22.000But he went along with the 2005 legal opinion, asserting that the techniques used by the CIA were lawful.
00:48:28.000And he gave the green light for the CIA to use all 13 methods of interrogating terrorism suspects, including waterboarding and up to 180 hours of sleep deprivation.
00:49:05.000He defended NDAA indefinite detention because that's the other part of this.
00:49:09.000Okay, that's where it's going to be applied to Americans because of course They're claiming that the entire world, including domestic soil here, is at a state of war.
00:49:21.000So they're going to involve the military, and we're going to have the same kind of rules of engagement that we saw happen in Iraq and Afghanistan with the CIA.
00:49:32.000They're going to essentially do the same thing.
00:49:36.000Talking about how in February 2012 the administration represented by Jay Johnson, General Counsel of the U.S.
00:49:41.000Department of Defense, defined the term associated forces so that they could apply it to essentially anybody with the NDAA.
00:49:50.000This is the guy who then subsequently becomes the head of Homeland Security and evidently is going to be passing for Obama when he didn't even sign his executive order.
00:50:00.000He's going to leave it to Jay Johnson.
00:50:02.000I mean you can already see the transformation though going from Combat overseas of what's going on now with our militarized police as well, though.
00:50:08.000The shoot first, ask questions, maybe down the road at some point in time.
00:50:40.000And when you look at this, the attitude that they had in country, saying that if anybody was a military age male, there was a presumption that they were not innocent.
00:50:48.000And that's the way they're policing the inner city.
00:50:50.000I've heard that many times when we were overseas.
00:50:52.000They were like, hey, that's an old enough guy.
00:50:59.000Which reminds us that, of course, people who are military-age males are the militia, and that's what's going to essentially be the only effect that we have to stand against this tyranny.
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00:54:26.000Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show on...
00:54:27.000I'm David Knight here with Staff Sergeant Retired Joe Biggs.
00:54:31.000We're talking about what he saw on the ground in terms of torture.
00:54:35.000We've been looking at the people who are at the top of this, providing legal cover, who have not been shamed, they've not been punished, they've not been demoted or fired.
00:54:46.000No, they've been promoted to the positions of head of the CIA, head of the FBI.
00:54:58.000One of the things I was looking at in the torture report, they were talking about the memorandum of notification.
00:55:03.000It seems to me it was more restrictive than even what they've put in with the NDAA.
00:55:08.000They had a quote in there where it says, we are not permitted, they said, to detain someone merely upon a suspicion that he or she has valuable information about terrorists or planned acts of terrorism.
00:55:19.000And yet they've been given a much broader range in the NDAA.
00:55:24.000They say merely they have to suspect that there's substantial support.
00:55:28.000And as you're pointing out, they were just going out and rounding people up, torturing them and releasing them.
00:55:33.000They're essentially poking both sides of the war, just as we've seen them do in Vietnam, as we've seen them do in every kind of conflict.
00:55:41.000We've got the CIA operating here secretly as an unaccountable compartmentalized government that is over and above the people who presumably have some oversight over them or appoint the head of the CIA.
00:55:56.000And we're not going to see even the kind of oversight that we saw out of this report once Richard Burr gets in, because he's publicly gone on record saying that he doesn't think there's ever anything that the CIA does that ought to be made public.
00:56:50.000We're going to talk later in the program about how the GOP has betrayed their voters who wanted them to get control of the illegal amnesty program, to shut down Obamacare.
00:57:00.000Uh, to do so many things and basically let people look and see what's in spending bills.
00:57:05.000We've had now two separate weeks where they basically introduced something on a Tuesday night, late 1600 page bill and said we've got to pass it by Thursday, giving congressmen and the press and the public only a few hours to look at what's in it.
00:57:18.000We're going to look at some of the things that have already shown up in the bill.
00:57:21.000Of course, there's not enough time for everybody to know everything that's in it, but there's some horrendous stuff in that.
00:57:26.000And Obama did the same thing to his supporters.
00:57:29.000A lot of people voted for him because they wanted to end the torture that was going on.
00:57:33.000They wanted to end the wars, and yet he's given us more wars.
00:57:38.000He added the drone program and put one of the guys who was giving legal cover for the torture program in charge of the drone program, who is now the head of the CIA, John Brennan.
00:57:56.000I haven't seen any of that happen yet and it's only getting worse and it's going to continue to get worse here in America because like I said we're making a transformation from combat life overseas and that's starting to pop up here in the homeland as well.
00:58:09.000That's what people need to understand.
00:58:10.000They need to understand that this was merely training and preparation.
00:58:14.000They need to see how all of the groundwork is being laid.
00:58:17.000For a massive tyranny here, how the NDAA and the legislation that was passed today, that's all going to be used against the American public.
00:58:25.000You and I saw it there at the training facility.
00:58:27.000When we come back, right after the break, we're going to talk about some more stuff that you saw in Afghanistan and Iraq, because that's what's missing.
00:58:35.000There's not any interview of the people who were there, who saw that, nothing of the people who were victims of that.
00:58:43.000Nobody who did it is being called in for questioning.
00:58:46.000Only the whistleblower who exposed it goes to prison.
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01:00:41.000We've been talking about the torture report that was released.
01:00:44.000Of course, it is yet another step in the cover-up of two administrations.
01:00:50.000That should help you to get out of your left-right Republican-Democrat paradigm to understand this is something that's gone on with two administrations.
01:00:58.000You've got the Obama administration covering for the Bush administration, and this is part of the cover-up.
01:01:05.000It excuses Feinstein, who had oversight during this time.
01:01:08.000It excuses Bush, those in the Bush administration.
01:01:11.000One of the things that they say, and this is interesting, Joe, number seven out of their 20 findings, the CIA impeded effective White House oversight and decision-making.
01:01:21.000And yet, they point out later in the report that Back in 2008, even after the Congress, the House and the Senate had approved legislation to stop what they were doing, essentially limit it to what was approved interrogation methods out of the Army Field Manual, that was vetoed by President Bush.
01:01:37.000And of course we all know that they knew about this for a very long time.
01:01:41.000We've had the former chief lawyer of the CIA, Rizzo, wrote a book called Company Man.
01:01:50.000And in it, he talks about how he provided the cover for enhanced interrogation.
01:01:56.000But of course, when the book came out, everybody focused on the sensational aspects that there was some Hollywood big-name star that got paid $50,000 in cocaine to work for the CIA.
01:02:07.000completely ignoring the lies of this guy used for enhanced interrogation and of course the CIA, according to him, destroyed most of the detainee interrogation videotapes back in 2005.
01:02:18.000So they knew about this stuff for a long time, but you talked about what you saw personally there.
01:02:22.000You talked about how people brought out bags over their head, they didn't speak English, they threatened them with Guantanamo, scared them to death.
01:02:30.000Talk about some of the other things that you saw there.
01:02:32.000Well, there was a program that started coming into effect A couple months before I left, so I was involved with it and I was one of the people who was considered a need to know about it.
01:02:40.000Most of the soldiers in my unit had no idea the operation was even going on.
01:02:45.000They just knew that we would go on missions at night and grab people.
01:02:59.000So what they do is then they take that information, they track that anti-tank mine to a house.
01:03:05.000Now we've gone into these places numerous times and there's no proof that these are IED making facilities.
01:03:11.000It looked like just people had come across it and decided to get it off the road to maybe stop someone from running over it and getting hurt.
01:03:17.000Because you got a lot of people out there who really are just nice people who want to live a regular life.
01:03:25.000And they would take them, and I think that from the bottom of my heart, it feels like they were using a lot of these local nationals in Afghanistan as just practice.
01:03:49.000It was just amazing what you and I went through at AP Hill when the security guard let us in and we were able to walk through that facility and see what they had set up.
01:03:57.000And of course, there's another one that's got a slightly different kind of approach in North Carolina, I think it was.
01:04:03.000Yeah, Camp Lejeune up at the Marine Base.
01:04:05.000Yeah, that one is a more rural, suburban approach.
01:04:46.000We would take people who had nothing to do with it, and they would be taken in the room sometimes, and like I said, you would hear the most god-awful screams.
01:04:54.000I wake up in the middle of the night hearing that, and I get goosebumps even talking about it.
01:04:58.000Yeah, we're going to be right back after the break.
01:04:59.000We're going to talk about another story that Joe is involved in, this one about abortion.
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01:08:09.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
01:08:19.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:08:29.000We've been talking about the torture non-report, what I believe is a whitewash.
01:08:35.000Still not going to do anything to the CIA.
01:08:38.000If you look at the 20 points, every single one of them starts out, the CIA did this, the CIA did that.
01:08:42.000Very mild accusations for the most part.
01:08:46.000Most of it there to excuse people to say, well, you know, the House didn't know about it, the Senate didn't know about it, they were hiding it from us, the Presidents didn't even know about it, Bush didn't know about it, and then Obama didn't know about it when he covered up for Bush administration's crimes.
01:09:00.000But of course it all boils down to, I think, The lack, Joe, of a valuing life.
01:09:08.000You know, we don't have the sanctity of life.
01:09:11.000The Founders always connected life and liberty, talking about them as being part of our inalienable rights.
01:09:17.000When we look at how this is a psychological operation with this torture stuff, as you pointed out, they want to destroy people's self-respect.
01:09:26.000Because then they can take your freedom, they can build you back up.
01:09:29.000As you pointed out, it's like a boot camp for the American public.
01:09:32.000What we see going on with the TSA, the milder forms of torture that we saw from the TSA, where they were basically designed to humiliate and strike fear into the hearts of the people.
01:10:22.000It was one of those things, and I said this before, it ate away at my soul and my heart.
01:10:26.000Because we saw an article on the College Fix saying that it was a growing trend at universities nationwide.
01:10:34.000And I thought to myself, alright, I can't believe this, but I do need to go out and find out for myself whether or not this is really something that people can back.
01:10:45.000So we drew up this petition, you know, stating, hey, you know, Do you support giving women the right to have post-birth abortions?
01:10:55.000So after the baby's been born, and it could be from a botched abortion that didn't work, or any other whatever happened, or at the point that you have the kid and you decide up till five years old that, you know, I can't handle this anymore, then you can still have the baby aborted.
01:11:08.000So, and the reason I say five years old is because a kid, you know, when you go back and you, what's the first thing you can ever remember?
01:11:38.000And she goes, well, that's the right between the doctor And the patient, whether or not they would want to have a post-birth abortion, and I like what the guy brought up, he goes, well once the baby is on the table laying there kicking, screaming and crying, isn't that the patient?
01:11:52.000Doesn't that patient now have rights and you're going to murder it?
01:11:55.000You know, it all boils down to the discussion of personhood.
01:11:59.000And as a libertarian, I used to buy the argument that, well, you know, people, we don't really know if it's a person or whatever at this point, until it got to partial birth abortion, which really, in my opinion, is post-birth abortion.
01:12:11.000They would go through the prevarication of pretending that part of the baby was still inside the mother and then kill the baby.
01:12:18.000But the baby was essentially full term, able to survive on its own.
01:12:23.000uh... mostly withdrawn and then kill the child and so you just take it to the logical extreme of five years old.
01:12:29.000Let's play a little bit of that clip so people remember what we uh... what we did on that.
01:13:20.000Women who have botched abortions, sometimes they fail, and it's to give them the ability to go on ahead and go through with it after the baby's been born.
01:14:40.000This is really making me so angry that people are signing.
01:14:43.000And that's the reaction right there that I thought I was going to get from every single person that I approached, and yet I did not get that.
01:14:50.000It was so over the top, so absurd, and yet there were very few people that had that kind of reaction.
01:14:54.000I thought someone was going to punch me, smack me, threaten to kill me in some kind of way, because that would be my reaction if you walked up to me and said, hey, do you support killing babies that are already born?
01:15:07.000So, this gets picked up by Texas Right to Life, looks at this, is absolutely amazed at what's going on, sends us out an email blast, and then the Austin Statesman and PolitiFact pick this up and they're going to do an objective analysis of your Man on the Street report.
01:15:35.000And then they talk about you as being the sports jacketed man in shades.
01:15:39.000So yeah, the fact that I have on a sports jacket and shades means that I'm going to make people feel more welcome to murdering babies.
01:15:47.000This guy that wrote this article is out of his mind.
01:15:49.000So this is Political Fact's objective analysis of that report.
01:15:54.000Now they say that at your request you emailed them the page listing the people who signed it, 13 people who signed it, and they go in and they pronounce this as being partially accurate.
01:16:07.000They only talk to three, well, four people out of the 13.
01:16:11.000One of them says that they do support the concept, but for quote-unquote complicated reasons.
01:16:16.000They don't explain what those complicated reasons, why somebody would still say that when questioned on the phone, they say, yeah, I support abortions up to the age of five.
01:16:25.000And then talk about what some of the other people said.
01:16:41.000Of course they're gonna retract that right off the bat.
01:16:44.000There was a lady who wants to be a politician, and I made her clip extra long, just so PolitiFact and all of them can watch right now and see how long she read that.
01:16:56.000And she's the one... The first one that they talked to?
01:17:00.000She is the one who wanted to be a politician and said that, had I fully understood the actual position, you know, I wouldn't have signed this.
01:17:52.000If you like to use Facebook, but on January 1st you decide to go accept the new user terms and services, and then one day one of your nudie photos off your phone gets leaked out somewhere.
01:18:16.000So that's another issue as well right there.
01:18:18.000People need to learn to read what they're doing.
01:18:20.000If they're saying they're not reading, but these people clearly, you can see in the video, read what they were doing and then signed it.
01:18:25.000And as you pointed out, when somebody contacts them personally and says, are you really sure that this is really what you wanted to do after the fact?
01:18:32.000We're doing a news report on this, and I'm from PolitiFact, and I want to know it.
01:18:36.000One of these guys still comes back and says, you know, hey, I do support it.
01:18:52.000See, they can't even get to the idea that it's murder.
01:18:56.000And I think for the longest time, you know, I talked to my wife about it at the time that she was working with a pro-life organization and saying, if they really want to change people's minds, get people to understand what's going on, they need to fund A better imaging system.
01:19:22.000You have no excuse to think that this is some evolutionary form of development.
01:19:28.000That was something that goes all the way back to The 1800s, where you had somebody who was trying to sell Darwin's theory of evolution, came up with the idea that ontology, phylogeny recapitulates ontology, I think is the way it went.
01:19:42.000Essentially saying they're going through evolutionary stages.
01:19:45.000So if you abort this child, you're not aborting a human, you're aborting a baby fish, or you're aborting a bird, or something of the lower form.
01:19:53.000Those drawings that he came up with have been shown to be a lie.
01:19:56.000Everything about this is based on a lie.
01:19:58.000We're going to talk a little bit more with Joe Biggs about this report right after the break.
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01:24:25.000Of course, we've been talking an hour ago.
01:24:28.000We were talking about his personal experiences, seeing what the U.S.
01:24:31.000military was doing abroad with torture, because that's a key component of this that's missing.
01:24:37.000And that is, they can tell us about the techniques that are going on, but we need to hear from the individuals who were tortured.
01:24:44.000We need to see the people who did it punished.
01:24:47.000We need to understand that this is a fraud.
01:24:48.000And yet, this Senate report that goes out is merely Removing blame from anybody that could be punished for this and placing it solely on the CIA, which I think the real takeaway from this report is that the CIA is clearly above the law.
01:25:04.000They can put everything on the CIA, say the CIA deceived everybody, they mismanaged it, it was ineffective, they lied to the public.
01:25:12.000They lied to Congress saying that they were getting real intelligence from it.
01:25:15.000Of course, part of that lie was the Zero Dark Thirty movie that came out.
01:25:18.000It opens with graphic scenes of enhanced interrogation, as they call it, and then showing that that intelligence is leading to the capture of Bin Laden.
01:25:27.000Everything about that, of course, is a lie.
01:25:29.000I think it's interesting that it was Sony that's now getting hacked.
01:25:32.000I don't even want to get into that movie.
01:25:39.000It was the biggest lie I've ever seen.
01:25:41.000So it's lie on top of lie on top of lie, but every one of these 20 items out of this report basically says the CIA did this, the CIA did that, and of course they're going to be immune from any kind of prosecution, any kind of real auditing or oversight or exposure.
01:25:56.000But then we started talking about this report that you did at the University of Texas, went out on the street, asked people if they would sign, Texas students, if they would sign this petition supporting abortion up to the age of five.
01:28:20.000As I said before, it's having respect for life, having respect for people, having respect for the sanctity of life.
01:28:27.000When they can go into other countries, as you were talking about, just go out and Grab people out of the community in these foreign countries, bring them in, torture them, and release them.
01:28:38.000Or, use the drone program, which John Brennan then moved on.
01:28:42.000He graduated from the Enhanced Interrogation Torturing.
01:28:45.000John Brennan moved on to being legal cover for the drone assassination program, essentially saying that it was necessary, that they were not getting any collateral damage.
01:28:55.000And he was rewarded for both of those things by being put in charge of the CIA, where he is now.
01:29:01.000We're not going to see anything happen in the CIA, are we?
01:29:10.000These are human beings, and if you can do that to human beings in another country, they can and will do it to human beings in this country.
01:29:18.000It's those rules of engagement that we now see happening on the street.
01:29:22.000This is what we see happening in the inner city.
01:29:24.000They're training the police to do this sort of thing, and we see that the Department of Defense, with their Section 1033 program, putting military equipment out there, they are desperate to get it in the hands of the police.
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01:33:34.000I'm David Knight, and we just had Joe Biggs in here with us talking about, of course, the torture report, but specifically about what he saw in Afghanistan, as well as this PolitiFact analysis of the Man on the Street report.
01:33:48.000The Man on the Street report is self-evident.
01:33:52.000Of course, when they did contact only three of the 13 people, one of them said, well, yeah, I guess it might be kind of wrong to kill somebody up to the age of five.
01:34:03.000Another one said, I don't have any problem with that.
01:34:09.000We got a special report coming up from Leanne McAdoo.
01:34:11.000And of course, we talked about Peter Gruber.
01:34:14.000Before he was lying to the American public and deceiving them on Obamacare, it was John Gruber.
01:34:20.000I'm sorry, I keep calling him Peter Gruber because I was a Peter Gruber Hollywood producer and I used to be in the video business, so I keep calling him that.
01:34:29.000But it's John Gruber, of course, lied to the American public about Obamacare and sold them on that.
01:34:35.000But before that, he was actually using the kind of arguments that we see being used in abortion clinics all the time.
01:34:53.000That's actually the phrase that he used.
01:34:57.000And of course, that's an economist's term.
01:34:58.000We talk about marginal costs and marginal benefits.
01:35:01.000In other words, we have a fixed cost of our factory.
01:35:04.000If we use more material to make more widgets, is that marginal cost going to be offset by a marginal benefit?
01:35:10.000So he talks about children and tries to do it in economic terms.
01:35:15.000Telling people as they go into the abortion clinic, this child is going to cost you $300,000 over its life, or whatever number they pull out of the air about that.
01:35:25.000As if you're going to have to come up with that right away.
01:35:28.000As if they know what the cost is going to be.
01:36:31.000the marginal costs from john gruber obama care architect jonathan gruber it's not just satisfied with selling the two stupid american voters a health care law based on deception and non-transparency
01:36:57.000No, now Gruber has been exposed as an abortion advocate of the eugenicist variety.
01:37:04.000Now, during the Clinton years, Gruber co-authored a paper titled, Abortion Legalization and Child Living Circumstances.
01:37:14.000He argues that legal abortion had saved the U.S.
01:37:17.000taxpayer upwards of $14 billion in welfare benefits, and that it also lowered crime.
01:37:24.000He argues that abortion of marginal children is a social good.
01:37:29.000If these marginal children, or urban poor, had been born, they would have been more likely to live in a single-parent household, live in poverty, die in infancy, and be in a household collecting welfare.
01:37:43.000I was raised by a single mother in low to middle class neighborhood.
01:37:47.000I even grew up some of those years on food stamps.
01:37:50.000But according to Jonathan Gruber, I would have been better off if I had never even been born.
01:37:55.000And this is a lie that they sell to these young women that they might as well just get rid of their children because they'll never be able to make it and they'll never rise up out of poverty.
01:38:57.000According to a new report from the Government Accountability Office, Obamacare is filled with abortion subsidies and plans that indirectly fund the procedure, forcing taxpayers to subsidize abortion.
01:39:09.000And as we've reported before, most of these abortion clinics are set up in black and Hispanic neighborhoods.
01:39:16.000In New York alone, there were more black babies killed by abortion than were born in 2012.
01:39:23.000And in New York alone, nearly 78% of all abortions performed were of black or Hispanic children.
01:39:29.000Now, former abortion clinic director Carol Everett exposed that the industry seeks to find a constant stream of new clientele by infiltrating public school systems.
01:39:41.000And she also revealed how they specifically seek to target the Well, I want you to think of this as a business.
01:39:51.000People don't think of it as a business, but they have to expand their market.
01:40:16.000But you cannot just go to these kids when they're 12 and say, I want you to start getting pregnant.
01:40:20.000So what we did was we worked to create our market by breaking down the natural modesty, separating the children from their parents and their values, and becoming a sexpert in their lives.
01:41:05.000In 1984, Planned Parenthood came to San Antonio, Texas and hired a Hispanic marketing firm to learn how to market to the Hispanic population, i.e.
01:41:16.000the fastest growing in the nation and the fastest growing in the abortion numbers and in the teen pregnancy numbers.
01:41:48.000It helps us to send Joe Biggs to exotic places where he can get shot at with rubber bullets and tear gas if you want to see more of that support operation.
01:41:57.000You can also see all of Alex Jones's documentaries are available there and that's one of the best ways to wake people up.
01:42:04.000So if you want to wake up your friends and family you can share it with 20 of them at the same time.
01:42:08.000And of course it's a way to keep them informed.
01:42:11.000Every night you'll get it as it's happening, get the news as it's happening.
01:42:15.000That's Monday night through Friday night, 7 central, 8 p.m.
01:42:19.000That's the nightly news and your subscription to Prison Planet TV helps to support that.
01:44:15.000I woke up the next morning and basically you're going to be visiting the bathroom.
01:44:19.000What I think it does is it goes in there and like liquefies the stuff that's inside your intestines and then it just flows out pretty much.
01:44:25.000Not to get too graphic, but I did that for six days once I found it.
01:44:28.000And that stuff's rotting in there and that's what gives you cancer.
01:45:58.000And by the third or fourth day, you're like, I don't know if I want to keep doing this.
01:46:01.000If you just get through it, it's not bad at all, considering the weight I lost.
01:46:05.000I mean, I could never lose the weight doing any other way, you know, that quickly.
01:46:10.000Well, this is the final thing Hollywood stars do to lose that final amount of weight.
01:46:15.000Yeah, if you're going to, if you've got a wedding or something coming up, I'd say... And groups in here in the office like months ago going, look, see this star, she did it, and look at this, Alex, just, I'm telling you, it's the best thing I got.
01:46:55.000It's joke-level good that we can just bring people the very best stuff at very affordable prices, fund our operation, and then they love us!
01:47:03.000And then they help us, we help them, and everybody's lovey-dove.
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01:47:46.000Alright, Alex is going to be back tomorrow.
01:47:51.000As I said, he's going to have a new special that you've never seen before.
01:47:55.000Alex will be back tomorrow to explain what that is.
01:47:57.000I want to take your calls at 800-259-9231.
01:48:01.000We've been talking about the whitewashed CIA torture report that came out of the Senate Oversight Committee and of course you're not going to see Any oversight of the CIA, not even a pretense of oversight, once Richard Burr takes the place of Dianne Feinstein, because he said he doesn't think anything that they do should be told to the public.
01:48:22.000They're going to be allowed to govern in complete secrecy, and when I say govern, that's exactly what I mean.
01:48:28.000We have an organization, just like the Federal Reserve, where the head is appointed by the visible facade government that we see, but they are allowed to do whatever they want to, without any auditing, in secret, And there's never any accountability, no matter what they do.
01:48:44.000Now, before we go to your calls, just this last little bit here.
01:48:47.000Today, and it may have already passed, I don't know, they've been working on the Continuing Resolution Omnibus Bill, which is going to fund the government through next year, through September of 2015.
01:48:58.000It's not just a continuing resolution, because that would just be for a couple months.
01:49:06.000They want to avoid a shutdown, so it has to be passed today.
01:49:08.000But when did they give that to Congress?
01:49:11.000When did they give that to the public?
01:49:13.000Well, the GOP did the same thing Pelosi has been doing in the past, the same thing they criticized Pelosi for, the same thing they pledged they would not do in 2010, and that is Dump thousands of pages on the American public with all kinds of stuff buried in it, with just a few hours to look to see what's in it.
01:49:32.000Pelosi famously said, we'll have to pass it to see what's in it, when she was talking about Obamacare.
01:49:35.000They've done this now two weeks in a row.
01:49:38.000It was last week, as I pointed out earlier in the show, at 10.30pm on a Tuesday, they dumped the NDAA, which funds the military.
01:49:45.000And of course, the military is a legitimate function.
01:49:49.000It's about the only thing they do that is legitimate under the Constitution, but not to the extent that they're doing it.
01:49:55.000Not to the extent that we have multiple foreign wars going on.
01:49:57.000Not to the extent that we are doing drone assassinations abroad and torture and on and on.
01:50:04.000So it has to be funded because that's what our government has become all about.
01:50:07.000A $500 billion bill and buried in that were things like a 650,000 acre land grab.
01:50:15.000Part of that is going to be used for a copper company taking some land that used to be in the possession of Indians.
01:50:24.000They're going to now take that and they're going to turn that over to a copper company and of course John McCain is going to preside over that because that's his little fiefdom just like you have Harry Reid in Nevada.
01:50:35.000He's going to preside over the taking of public lands for the use of giant multinational corporations.
01:50:41.000John McCain is doing the same thing in Arizona.
01:50:43.000That's what this copper mine is about.
01:50:45.000We're going to talk about the details that are buried, some of the ones that have already surfaced, in the bill this week.
01:50:52.000So last week it was a 500 billion dollar bill.
01:50:54.000They had a couple hours to take a look at.
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01:54:25.000We're going to be going to your calls in just a little bit.
01:54:28.000But I wanted to talk a little about what's being buried in this bill.
01:54:32.000And of course, Breitbart just came up with an article saying, Boehner Ally admits that the omnibus bill was crafted literally in a cigar smoke-filled back room.
01:54:39.000We have Joe Klein talking about how he's had the, quote, opportunity to talk about this particular pension problem over a cigar at the end of the day on more than one occasion with a Democrat.
01:54:59.000They're also going to bring in derivative insurance through the FDIC.
01:55:04.000That's the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation.
01:55:07.000That's the Uh, the organization that insures your bank deposits.
01:55:11.000And of course, we were told after the pump and dump mortgage scam, after the TARP bailout, we were told that that wasn't going to happen again because we had Dodd-Frank that was going to keep the banks from essentially socializing their losses while they privatized their profits.
01:55:30.000Now the GOP House has snuck it back in.
01:55:34.000They're going to have new derivatives which are much, much larger, orders of magnitude larger than the mortgage derivatives that they've been concocting out there.
01:56:07.000But even more importantly, the GOP, who was elected saying that they were going to oppose Obamacare, they were going to defund it, they were going to stop it, they were going to do something about this illegal Dictation, I guess we should call it, because it's not really an executive order.
01:56:38.000The only thing they're taking out is $10 million for death panels.
01:56:41.000I guess we should be grateful for that amount of movement.
01:56:46.000They also gave themselves a lot of, kind of a gift to themselves.
01:56:51.000Because you know, Christmas is coming up and they're wondering what they're going to give their fellow member of Congress.
01:56:56.000Well, they decided that the $32,000 limits on the RNC and the DNC, the Republican National Committees and Democrat National Committees, they're going to raise those limits to $324,000, a factor of 10.
01:57:09.000Because that's the way you get things done in Washington.
01:57:12.000And of course, you want to see, I guess we'll go to our $2 billion election.
01:57:17.000We got up to the $1 billion election pretty quickly.
01:57:20.000Now we're going to accelerate because when they increase the amount of money that can be given to the politicians who are running for office, That's going to be a leverage for the people who are buying them, because it's a great investment to buy a congressman.
01:57:36.000You get a huge return on investment when you buy a congressman.
01:57:40.000But although they're going to be funding their campaigns, they're going to be allowing, this is what he was talking about, we talked about this pension plan thing a lot.
01:57:47.000This is where they're really going to come after you.
01:57:50.000And I think this speaks volumes about the decline of America.
01:57:53.000They're going to allow pension plans to be changed for the first time.
01:57:58.000Understand that pension plans have always been sacrosanct.
02:00:58.000I think people are getting to understand this because they understand that the government is not there to protect them.
02:01:05.000And they also know, with our open borders, what can happen.
02:01:10.000Anybody that's been paying attention, and Jakari had a great report on this the other night, it was last night, I believe he had the interview with the Reporter from Mexico, and of course there's been tens of thousands of people killed in Mexico with the war on drugs there.
02:01:24.000A lot of corruption from the government, a lot of murdering on both sides, and the only place where people are safe are where the citizens have armed themselves to protect themselves against both the drug cartels and the corrupt government there.
02:01:37.000One thing that illustrated that, of course, is the 49 college students who were killed after they heckled a politician's wife's speech.
02:01:45.000They essentially used the drug cartels to go after these 49 kids, murdered them and buried them.
02:01:51.000That's happening all the time in Mexico.
02:01:55.000And we've opened up our borders so the drug cartels can come right into our country.
02:02:20.000I want to address this issue from two different angles.
02:02:24.000First of all, you know, it's been brought out how the NSA is spying on us.
02:02:29.000We're being tracked and monitored by all this government control grid.
02:02:33.000And I know in particular from listening to Alex that they are really monitoring you folks at InfoWars.
02:02:41.000So I want to put a word out to these people that want to advocate and promote this new world order system that thinks it's okay to brutally torture and murder people.
02:02:53.000There's a day coming, you may get away with it in the human realm, but there's a day coming when you're going to stand before your creator, Jesus Christ, Yes.
02:03:03.000to give an account for this, it's all being recorded, you're under surveillance.
02:03:07.000It's going to come up at the great white throne, and then you're going to be cast into the lake of fire where you will be tormented.
02:03:15.000And that word means tortured forever and ever and ever.
02:03:19.000And you can take that to the bank with all your bankster mob bosses.
02:03:24.000The other thing I want to say is this.
02:03:26.000I am totally disgusted as a Bible-believing Christian how the majority of professing Christians in America are living in a fantasy world because of this pre-trib rapture theory.
02:03:40.000It's unbiblical, and they do not want to believe that we, here in America, are somehow going to go through what everybody else in history as a believer in Jesus Christ has had to go through, and that is persecution.
02:03:57.000This is what we're facing, and like you guys have pointed out, it's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
02:04:02.000You know, people say, well, you know, we're living in the last days, and the Lord said this was going to happen, and there's nothing we can do about it, so Lord, come and take us out of here before this all gets really bad.
02:04:12.000You people better wake up, because you are going to face the reality when people like What Joe Biggs used to do, are gonna come busting in your door, in the middle of the night, like the FEMA police did in Germany and in Russia, and drag your sorry hide off on the FEMA camp.
02:04:31.000And you will not escape that, so you better wake up and get with the program now before you get a real rude awakening, my friends.
02:04:38.000And it's not just the eschatology, Stephen.
02:04:41.000It's also the idea, if you're a Christian, where is your compassion for other people?
02:04:45.000Why don't you want to stop this from happening to other people?
02:04:48.000Doesn't it rip your heart out to see something like happen to Eric Garner?
02:04:52.000I mean, I just can't... I can't understand how Christians can sit aside and not do anything.
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02:08:51.000And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and subjecting your submission.
02:10:32.000If you can watch the stuff that's being done in our name to people on the streets, by the police, if you can watch people being tortured, if you can read these reports as to what's being done, and your response is, we're just awesome.
02:10:47.000I cannot understand that response, especially if you're a Christian.
02:10:51.000Martin Luther said, if I knew the world was going to end tomorrow, I would still plant a tree today.
02:10:56.000Would you help your fellow man today, if you knew the world was going to end tomorrow, and you're going to be, or you're going to be, because you think that your eschatology is going to lift you out of all the troubles, and you're going to go straight to heaven?
02:11:07.000Do you think that you should do something today to help your fellow man, even if you're not going to have to suffer through it yourself?
02:11:14.000For your fellow man's suffering, when you see homeless men shot to death on the street like a firing squad, when you see people beaten to death, homeless people beaten to death, do you have any compassion over that?
02:11:35.000We're going to have our judgment at Nuremberg, and if you're an old man, if you're a Dick Cheney and you think you're going to escape that, you don't believe in God, you're going to stand before God, you're going to answer before God, and He's not going to be taking any of your lies, Dick Cheney.
02:11:50.000But there's a lot of people who think that they're not going to have to answer in this life.
02:13:27.000They just passed a law, as Justin Amash talked about and we had talked about earlier in the show, where they're going to, under cover of law, say that they can get everybody's information, not go before a judge, not get us a subpoena.
02:13:53.000Because the Constitution says you need to go before a judge and be specific about what you're looking for, specific about where you're going to look for it.
02:14:00.000You have to have a reason to get our data.
02:14:03.000No laws that they push are going to pass constitutional muster.
02:14:05.000Go ahead, Jacob, what do you want to say?
02:14:06.000This has been going on for a long time, as you pointed out.
02:14:10.000Yeah, I've personally known about it and heard Alex Talk about it.
02:14:15.000I've been listening to his show for about 10 years now and he's definitely new.
02:14:52.000You know, I've been listening to Alex for a long time.
02:14:55.000And God bless you and him and all the staff for what you do.
02:15:00.000But I wish I could talk to Alex, but I'm going to ask you as a brother and a friend to kind of take him under a wing and say, look, I understand.
02:15:11.000You're outraged, and I don't mind you expressing your outrage, but there's only one flaw with that.
02:15:18.000If you scream and holler at us that the Homeland Security's got six billion rounds of ammunition, that's fine, but find out Who is manufacturing it for them?
02:15:37.000Let's get the locations of them so that at least, you know, if we know where they're hiding all this stuff, we can avail themselves of it.
02:15:46.000Where are the MRAPs being stored and stashed?
02:15:50.000Well we know where the MRAPs are being stored and stash are being stored at your local police department because they want you, the people in each town, the police department in each town, the taxpayers who support that, they want them to pay for the upkeep and maintenance of it.
02:16:04.000They're pre-positioning that stuff and they want the local taxpayers to keep, to do the upkeep.
02:16:09.000They have tremendous maintenance costs for these vehicles because they were rushed Into the battle at a last minute without a lot of preparation.
02:17:02.000And of course, That's one of the things that's changed.
02:17:04.000They understand, as the author, Wolverton, from the New American Magazine, John Birch Society, when I talked to him last week, he said, a gun, of course, without any ammunition, is nothing but a club.
02:17:43.000They're coming after not only just All private ownership of guns, but also all ammunition, all parts.
02:17:49.000You can't move anything across the borders.
02:17:51.000You can't, and of course setting up a registry to spy on everybody.
02:17:55.000That's where this all goes down, is a registry to spy on people.
02:17:58.000Earlier in the day I talked about how Prime Minister Abe of Japan has put this new law in that is going to allow civil servants, people who work for the government, to be sent to prison for 10 years if they leak state secrets.
02:18:16.000The mother of the 12-year-old who had the BB gun, who was shot, said at the funeral, you're not James Bond, you don't have a license to kill.
02:18:25.000That's true, but they see themselves as James Bond.
02:18:29.000They think they've got a license to kill, and they think everything is a state secret.
02:18:34.000Let me tell you, every time we go to talk to anybody, it doesn't matter how low down they are at local government or what, everybody thinks they've got state secrets.
02:18:43.000Everybody acts like the CIA used to be the only one to act like.
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02:24:32.000Whenever he gets these hecklers that are pro-illegal immigration, and he gets flustered, and that's when he says things like, hey, I changed the law for you.
02:24:41.000Well, this particular guy came after him as an anchor from Fusion.
02:24:45.000Instead, you're saying you always had the legal authority to stop deportations?
02:24:49.000Then why did you deport 2 million people?
02:25:10.000He says, I just want you to work with me and make sure that immigrants know what their opportunities are and how they can take advantage of them.
02:25:20.000You know, opportunities like being able to get in-state tuition even though they haven't been paying taxes like citizens.
02:25:26.000They just come into this country and of course they can get in-state tuition anywhere they want to go.
02:25:45.000They were supposed to stop Obamacare, stop the funding, do something to push that back, but they didn't do anything.
02:25:52.000They're funding Obamacare, they're funding the amnesty, and of course they're funding their campaign contributions, raising that by a factor of 10, what the limits used to be to the Republican and Democrat National Committees.
02:26:03.000They raised it from $32,000 to $324,000.
02:26:05.000And another couple of gifts for the big bankers that own them, that they work for.
02:26:12.000Giving them FDIC protection for their derivatives casino game.
02:26:18.000Once again, they're going to socialize the losses while these guys privatize the profits.
02:26:24.000And then allowing big corporations to basically renege on their pension plans.
02:26:29.000Do you think we're going to get our Social Security?
02:26:32.000If they're going to allow private pension plans to be reneged on, of course we're not.
02:26:38.000There's not going to be any money for Social Security.
02:26:40.000Twenty years ago, there were more people believed in space aliens and believed they were going to get Social Security when they died, and I'm sure that it's much worse than that now.
02:26:56.000I have a question about Social Security and it also ties in with Obamacare death panels.
02:27:02.000I'm on Social Security SSI because I'm blind and I only get $700 a month and I feel bad for even getting that because I know there's stuff out there that I can do and it also ties in with the death panels because there's going to be a day when they come and say, oh well you're not useful for the state, we're just going to euthanize you now.
02:27:26.000Once the government pays for your health care, then of course they can come in and make demands as they're already doing.
02:27:30.000We see Michelle doing about, I think you're getting too much sugar, you're getting too much salt, I don't think you're healthy enough, so I'm going to ban this, I'm going to ban that, and if that doesn't work, if you're somebody that they don't think is useful as you point out, if you're blind or you've got some kind of physical infirmity or you're older, It's just soylent green time, because you're just a drag on their taxpayers.
02:27:57.000That's one of the reasons why, you know, again, it is eventually going to go down to death penalty, death panels, and they're going to be able to decide who gets treatment and who doesn't, under what terms.
02:28:11.000You know, we've had entitlement programs in the past, so this is going to be an unentitlement program.
02:28:15.000And that's one of the reasons why, and certainly I wouldn't begrudge you, I would not begrudge you any social security benefits that you get.
02:28:22.000I think the sad thing is, again, talking about the churches, that individuals and that churches have essentially given up, and in many cases, some of them are activists for trying to expand the welfare state.
02:28:39.000That's the way you get rid of the fraud.
02:28:40.000That's the way you help people who really need it, is on a one-to-one basis.
02:28:44.000And if it's done by individuals, I don't think you're going to see this kind of death panel approach where we say, well, we just don't want to.
02:28:51.000Anybody that fits into this pigeonhole, we're not going to give them any health care whatsoever.
02:29:19.000You know, we're, everybody, we all know, we're looking at the people that are, you know, basically call them deadbeats, the guys that don't want to work.
02:29:27.000Those are the people that are able and they're not working.
02:29:30.000Those are the ones that should feel ashamed of themselves, just like Obama.
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02:35:38.000We just gotta practice, and I'll tell you what, if it happens at your home, I mean, we can't, one person can't take on a whole, let's say a SWAT team, but you're the king of your castle, and you know your home better than anyone else.
02:35:53.000Yeah, there's many, many ways that we need to fight this, and I think one of the things that we need to understand is the danger of these no-knock raids that we've allowed to happen in the name of the war on drugs, and I think We've seen people from the left understand the danger of the war on drugs.
02:36:07.000We've seen people on the right understand the danger of coming after the guns with the Second Amendment.
02:36:13.000I think if we can bring those two sides together, we will really have an effective, powerful coalition to understand that we can shut this militarized police state down.
02:36:23.000And I think one of the keys is also people getting involved.
02:36:27.000Taking the mystery out of guns, letting them get trained, you know, owning your weapons and training with them, that takes the mystery out of it.
02:36:34.000You know, once they start driving us around in computer-driven cars that we don't have any steering wheels or brakes for, everybody's gonna think cars are really scary and, oh, we could never drive a car.
02:36:49.000And just as the sheriff, David Clark, we've had on many times, was telling his people in his town, saying, you need to get a gun, you need to learn how to use it safely, because I can't be there when there's an emergency.
02:37:03.000We'll get there as soon as we can, we'll try to catch the bad guys, but there's going to be a certain amount of time before we can get there.
02:37:20.000We need to get that message out to more people.
02:37:22.000And one of the ways we do it is to take the mystery, the fears, the lies, and the disinformation surrounding guns and the Second Amendment.
02:37:30.000Piers Morgan is gone now, but there's plenty of people to take his place.
02:38:15.000Man, I wanted to call up, today's my birthday for one, but I just recently got turned on to InfoWars and everything, and it's kind of just, they're literally blowing my mind, and I'm trying to tell as many people as I can without sounding like a Like I went off the deep end, you know, I'm sitting here trying to explain all this stuff and, you know, I'm trying to become more informed and everything.
02:38:37.000I got a baby on the way and Oklahoma's a little more, you know, not as liberal as when it comes to gun laws and.
02:38:53.000If you're a Prison Planet TV subscriber, you can have access to all of Alex's documentaries.
02:38:59.000Of course, you know, there's a Christmas special on that right now.
02:39:01.000You get seven months for free with an annual thing.
02:39:03.000But you can also find them online to some degree.
02:39:06.000And that's the best way to wake people up.
02:39:09.000You know, getting the news every day, getting bits and pieces of it, they don't get the bigger picture like they do with the documentary.
02:39:14.000And on these documentaries, Alex has talked about the police state, he's talked about the Obama deception, he's talked about the fact that Obama was never going to punish Bush for any of these war crimes.
02:39:25.000They were not, he wasn't going to stop the wars, he's going to increase the wars.
02:39:30.000He predicted all this stuff, and when they see this, Documentary that's years old and he's got all the information there, the sources, the backup material, the quotes.
02:39:45.000Really just kind of like, you know, I listened to your Rush Limbaugh's and all those guys before and they're good, they're effective, but it kind of felt like Alex went into a different realm.
02:39:58.000It wasn't just telling, these are my opinion on things.
02:40:19.000Like how to kind of prepare for just anything that what you know all he's talking about if it actually if all this really transpires if it goes into well sanctions and all this yeah how do you prepare How do you prepare for worst-case scenario if it hits the fan?
02:40:36.000Well, I think you prepare the same way you should prepare for a natural disaster, for example.
02:41:58.000And that is, there is a site on the Internet that you can call to do background checks.
02:42:05.000And I occasionally get on there if I'm looking for somebody I haven't seen in a long time or whatever.
02:42:10.000And the other day when I got on there, they had a new thing that they give you, and they give you information as to whether or not you have ever registered for a gun.
02:42:21.000And I thought, oh my gosh, if they're giving this out to the public, then of course the police have got a list of everybody who has ever registered a gun.
02:42:31.000Because if they can do this online, you know, if somebody can just do this online randomly, of course the police are going to have it.
02:42:39.000They have everything, everything is being recorded, everything has been logged and noted.
02:42:45.000You know, I remember the story about when the Nazis moved into, I think it was in Holland, they had been keeping 3x5 card information on all the people in town.
02:42:56.000They thought it was innocuous information, yet when the Nazis came in, They tried to destroy that, but the cards were packed so tightly they couldn't get them to burn, and the Nazis got a lot of that information, and they used it to profile who they wanted to pick up, who they wanted to prosecute.
02:43:45.000When I talked to him months ago, he said, we have a police state.
02:43:49.000We're not close to a police state, we already have a police state.
02:43:53.000What were your comments about torture that you wanted to say, Patricia?
02:43:58.000Well, I'm the one that keeps calling about them.
02:44:01.000I'm so afraid of medical tyranny, you know, because of all the things, how they're preying on the Invalids and, you know, people who are handicapped and... Yes.
02:44:16.000Children have just become... I saw a woman carrying her baby at the store and it was cool here, very cold, and she had on boots and a flannel coat and all kinds of things and she put her baby in a little snugly on her chest and this baby had no covering on its legs, no shoes on, no sweater, no nothing, and it's as if They feel like, oh, they can't feel it, even if they believe they are.
02:44:43.000But anyways, I also wanted to... It's a lack of empathy, isn't it?
02:44:49.000That people need to... Everybody's talking about what can we do, but you've got to talk to your neighbors.
02:44:57.000Even if you are... I didn't talk to my neighbors for over a year because I thought, they will put me in an insane asylum, you know, if I start telling this stuff.
02:45:07.000And I finally just broke down, went around to all the people around me and said, look, you've got to put water away.
02:45:15.000You've got to prepare in case there would ever be an emergency.
02:45:19.000And they thought I was crazy and I didn't tell them everything because they couldn't have handled it.
02:45:25.000But I let them know that you've got to prepare a little bit here and Then months later, my neighbor directly by me said, what are we going to do?
02:45:36.000Because I told them all when I got through giving them my little speech, I said, don't believe anything I'm saying.
02:45:43.000Get on the internet and look this up for yourself.
02:46:19.000We know that's not even true in natural disasters.
02:46:22.000When we look at what happens in many natural disasters now after FEMA has interposed itself, they become the bottleneck of resources.
02:46:30.000And everything has to flow through them whenever they get involved.
02:46:33.000And that in and of itself is a tremendous problem during natural resources.
02:46:37.000But again, as I point out, I think one of the best ways that you can wake people up Let them look at the internet.
02:46:41.000Let them look at Alex Jones's documentaries, because I think the documentaries take the time to lay it out in a way that people today will ingest it.
02:46:50.000You know, they're not going to look at a pamphlet.
02:46:52.000A lot of people are not going to do an internet search to see if it's true, but if they've got a movie to watch, they'll watch that, and we can make that case.
02:47:12.000I was the guy that called on the day of when you guys had the thing with Ferguson and I was explaining how we were already kind of in the North American Union and how the fact that they were using this as a test for martial law.
02:48:34.000Yeah, well, that's exactly what I was saying.
02:48:38.000And the reasoning that they don't care so much about these executive orders, as you see, it's almost like they already know something that we don't know.
02:49:15.000And so what you'll see, whether it's Benghazi or whether it's the IRS scandals or whether it's the CIA scandals, they will use this to criticize the other side.
02:49:25.000To make political points, but they will never send anybody to jail.
02:49:38.000They don't want to dismantle any of this tyranny.
02:49:41.000They just want to use these trials, if you want to call them that, or these congressional hearings, to criticize the other side.
02:49:47.000And then they're going to go in and take the levers of power themselves.
02:49:51.000And we see what's happening with the GOP, doing exactly the same thing.
02:49:55.000that they criticized Pelosi for doing.
02:49:56.000And that is putting together this gigantic bill, introducing it with just hours for the public and for other congressmen to take a look at it and say, you've got to pass it by Thursday or we're out of money for the government.
02:50:10.000So you've got a couple hours to take a look at this.
02:50:12.000And then they pack the kitchen sink in there.
02:50:13.000Welfare benefits for the insurance benefits, I should say, for big banks and taking down pension plans, increasing their campaign contributions.
02:50:23.000I mean, everything is in there that doesn't have anything to do with continuing the funding of the government.
02:50:27.000Did you want to make another comment before we move on?
02:50:51.000It is a global problem, as I've been talking about this situation in Japan, saying they're going to send government workers to jail for ten years if they're whistleblowers, journalists to jail for five years.
02:51:01.000They say this is necessary to tighten control of state secrets so they can safely share intelligence with their closest ally, the United States.
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02:54:33.000Let's just understand we can't do anything wrong.
02:54:36.000That's the dangerous kind of attitude that's going to be coming from the Republicans in this next...
02:54:41.000Congress, we've seen the Democrats tell their base in many cases that they didn't want to have unlimited warfare, torture, violations of civil liberties, and yet they've done it anyway.
02:54:52.000They've stepped it up from where Bush was.
02:54:54.000What are we going to see when people like Richard Burr take over the Senate Intelligence Committee?
02:54:58.000Well, we're not going to see anything.
02:55:00.000We're not going to see any data from him.
02:55:02.000We're not going to see any criticism whatsoever.
02:55:07.000And we've been taking your calls about the torture report.
02:55:10.000Of course, Alex Jones is going to be back tomorrow.
02:55:11.000I'm sure he's going to have a lot to say about that and also about all the bodies that were buried inside of the congressional funding bill.
02:55:20.000All kinds of stuff that they stuck in there at the last minute, not giving anybody a chance to take a look at it.
02:55:24.000That's what the GOP's promise amounts to.
02:55:27.000It didn't even last a couple of weeks.
02:55:29.000Of course, they passed the Keystone Pipeline legislation for the ninth time, but they didn't do anything To restrain the unconstitutional use of power.
02:55:39.000And as we mentioned earlier, we just had another bill passed that Justin Amash says is the most egregious legislation he's ever encountered.
02:55:46.000It presumes to grant unlimited access to communications of every American without any kind of due process, going before a judge, getting a search warrant, getting a subpoena, nothing.
02:55:56.000They're just going to give themselves legal authority to do what they've been illegally doing for quite some time.
02:56:02.000And we've seen Surfacing, a document surfacing talking about this Stingray program.
02:56:09.000We've seen police go before judges saying they're not going to reveal anything about their source of where they got this because they have a non-disclosure agreement with Harris Corporation.
02:56:20.000See, that's the corporations, the military industrial complex now are more important Then our courts, then our due process.
02:56:27.000And when the judge says, you don't have a non-disclosure agreement with me, they just basically drop the case and said, we'll let the guy walk even though we think he's a criminal because the most important thing is our agreement with the military-industrial complex.
02:56:54.000I'd just like to, um, express my embarrassment to the people of the United States and to the great staff that worked at InfoWars for that last idiot that called from this country.
02:57:16.000Go ahead, what did you want to talk about?
02:57:18.000Well, um, it's not that I'm trying to steal your thunder or anything like that, but there's, um...
02:57:23.000Regarding the ITCC, the whole global warming thing, I know that's kind of off topic for today, but it was just something I came across the other day, and there's a fellow who operates out of Japan, his name is Corbett.
02:57:37.000I think the site is Corbett.com, and he's got the ITCC exposed for, you know, basically the lies and misinformation that it all is.
02:57:50.000And maybe some of your viewers might want to take a look at this type of stuff as well.
02:57:55.000Yeah, and actually it does kind of impinge on our tyrannical government.
02:57:59.000Obama said right after the election, even though the Republicans are going to have a majority in both houses, he said, I'm going to pass through my environmentalist agenda and there's nothing that they can or will do to stop it.
02:58:09.000And of course we know there isn't because he's going to enact his His agenda, whether he's got any legal authority to do it, whatsoever.
02:58:18.000We've seen him do that over and over again.
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