Alex Jones Show - December 16, 2014


20141216_Tue_Alex


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 59 minutes

Words per Minute

169.07828

Word Count

30,420

Sentence Count

2,360

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

39


Summary

In this episode of the Alex Jones Show, host Alex Jones is joined by Paul Joseph Watson to discuss the latest in the false flag conspiracy theory and the implications behind it. They also discuss the fallout from a new report about the use of a controversial surveillance device on a constitutionalist in Spokane, WV.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.
00:00:02.000 Big Brother.
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00:00:18.000 Government cover-ups.
00:00:20.000 You want answers?
00:00:21.000 Well, so does he.
00:00:23.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:27.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:35.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show.
00:00:36.000 I'm David Knight, your host today.
00:00:38.000 We're going to be joined this hour by Paul Joseph Watson coming up in the next segment.
00:00:42.000 He's going to talk to us about some breaking stories on InfoWars.
00:00:46.000 Essentially what we're seeing is the MIAC report of 2009 that they sent to the fusion centers saying be on the lookout for anyone with a bumper sticker saying they voted for Ron Paul or for Chuck Baldwin.
00:00:59.000 These people could be dangerous.
00:01:00.000 Well, that's what they're doing now in terms of profiling everybody before they make contact with them.
00:01:06.000 It's essentially that MIAC report implemented and on steroids.
00:01:10.000 We're also going to talk to him about the fallout from this report, this video that we saw out of Spokane about the Officer who is bragging about his MRAP, and when asked why would he need something like that in Spokane, he said, well, we have a lot of constitutionalists, so we're going to be talking about that as well.
00:01:28.000 We also have on the show an author of a book called The Colder War.
00:01:32.000 His name is Marin Katusa.
00:01:34.000 Very interesting book.
00:01:36.000 I really found this to be a fascinating read because there's a lot of background information in it.
00:01:42.000 You know, we have situations that are grabbing the headlines like the Sydney siege yesterday, like the massacre of school children in Pakistan.
00:01:51.000 Brutal massacre.
00:01:52.000 Now those are the things that are going to grab headlines, but if you want to know What is going on in the world that is going to bring us to worldwide war?
00:02:01.000 To a worldwide depression?
00:02:03.000 You need to understand the background story, the struggle, as he puts it, the great game that's been going on since the British Empire, much older than the Cold War.
00:02:11.000 You also need to understand Putin.
00:02:13.000 And listen to this excerpt, this review from Dr. Ron Paul about this book.
00:02:17.000 He said, the Colder War provides a reversing Contrast from the hysterical Putin is Stalin Jr.
00:02:24.000 Let's restart the Cold War message emanating from the neocon think tanks and the mainstream media.
00:02:29.000 That's exactly right.
00:02:30.000 He gives a very interesting take on this.
00:02:32.000 I have an excerpt of some of the false flag narrative.
00:02:36.000 It's interesting to look at this and put it into a timeline, into a historical context, and it's fascinating to look at how Putin used false flags essentially the same way our guys do.
00:02:47.000 Hey, if it works, it keeps working.
00:02:50.000 And they never get caught.
00:02:51.000 They continually fool the public.
00:02:54.000 It doesn't matter if it's the Reichstag fire.
00:02:56.000 It doesn't matter if it's 9-11.
00:02:57.000 It doesn't matter if it's these terrorist events.
00:03:00.000 They always work.
00:03:03.000 Full proof plan, apparently.
00:03:05.000 But we need to get people educated.
00:03:07.000 The only antidote to this is to get people to understand that.
00:03:10.000 But we're going to talk about the broader context.
00:03:12.000 We're going to talk about the petrodollar.
00:03:14.000 And of course, today we have massive tectonic moves that are happening in the economy, essentially tied to oil, to the stock market.
00:03:22.000 What the Congress rushed to do Put the American taxpayer on the hook to ensure derivatives of banks.
00:03:30.000 Now we're seeing why they rushed to do that and take all the criticism for it.
00:03:34.000 We see the Russian Central Bank hiked its interest rate to 17% in order to halt the fall of their currency.
00:03:41.000 And of course, as we talked about yesterday, Once these oil futures start falling because the actions of Saudi Arabia and OPEC, once they start falling, the oil futures are becoming worthless, that spreads to the commodities market, it spreads to the currency market, it spreads to the stock market.
00:03:59.000 It starts out as economic warfare between the West and Russia may very well turn into a shooting war.
00:04:06.000 We're going to take a look at the headlines behind it.
00:04:08.000 Russia's ruble plummets more than 20 percent a day, hitting new dollar and euro lows.
00:04:13.000 Again, that was on trading on Tuesday.
00:04:16.000 And we also see that they're tying it to the future markets, just as we said yesterday.
00:04:20.000 And another interesting thing that came up.
00:04:22.000 Comex has said the beginning December the 21st, I believe is the date, that they are going to effective Monday, December the 21st, they're going to implement gold and silver price limit collars.
00:04:35.000 In other words, they're going to limit the upside movement of gold and silver.
00:04:39.000 What does that tell you?
00:04:41.000 We see over and over again small but many signals that something big is coming.
00:04:47.000 So we're going to be talking to Marin Katuska about his book, The Colder War, and we're going to have Paul Joseph Watson joining us in the next segment.
00:04:54.000 Stay with us.
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00:08:36.000 A community rates low on an information scale when the press, radio, and other channels of communication are controlled by only a few people.
00:08:46.000 Does it raise ethical questions about the use of government money to produce stories about the government that wind up being aired with no disclosure that they were produced by the government?
00:08:54.000 How can you ask such a question?
00:08:56.000 What difference at this point does it make?
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00:10:09.000 Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.
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00:10:21.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show on this Tuesday, December 16, 2014.
00:10:25.000 I'm David Knight, your host today.
00:10:26.000 Joining me from the UK is Paul Joseph Watson, and we're going to talk about some couple of stories that are up on Infowars.com today.
00:10:34.000 Police using social media posts to determine the threat score of suspects.
00:10:38.000 That's an article up by Paul Joseph Watson, as well as a follow-up to what's happening in Spokane, Washington, about this sheriff's deputy's comments about needing these MRAPs for constitutionalists.
00:10:51.000 But I wanted to play a clip and get Paul's comments on this from yesterday.
00:10:56.000 We have comments from Fox about the Sydney siege.
00:11:00.000 I want to play this clip and get Paul to comment on using that to justify torture.
00:11:08.000 Go ahead.
00:11:09.000 The actual individuals here at home who've been into and trying to stop attacks like this and perhaps future hostage situations as we are still at war indeed with ISIS and terrorism are the CIA and they've been painted as the bad guys at home.
00:11:25.000 You know, former Vice President Dick Cheney actually called out Chuck Todd over the weekend yesterday for taking cheap shots Can you imagine that?
00:11:33.000 enhanced interrogation report.
00:11:34.000 When you see what's happening in Australia today, right now, in a chocolate shop, and you understand the real war with ISIS that we're in, a sharp contrast with the accusations of the CIA really just trying to do their job and keep America safe for the past 13 years, startles you any day.
00:11:52.000 Just trying to do their job.
00:11:54.000 Can you imagine that?
00:11:55.000 Betraying the CIA as bad guys because of their torture.
00:11:59.000 I mean, who would imagine doing something like that?
00:12:02.000 Betraying them as the bad guys.
00:12:04.000 Paul, your comments.
00:12:06.000 Well, the CIA just trying to do its job and protect us from terrorism.
00:12:11.000 It was the CIA that smuggled weapons to so-called moderate Syrian rebels, which later ended up in the hands of ISIS terrorists.
00:12:19.000 Some of those same rebels defected and joined ISIS.
00:12:23.000 It was the CIA that helped the US government destabilize Syria in the first place, that led to the upspring of ISIS.
00:12:30.000 And then the whole torture debate itself is founded on completely false pretenses that torture even works, when every shred of evidence says that it only elicits false confessions, which in fact divert real resources from finding out the truth about terrorist plots.
00:12:48.000 On top of that, it creates terrorists.
00:12:50.000 It radicalizes people.
00:12:51.000 It radicalizes the region.
00:12:53.000 So it only creates more blowback.
00:12:55.000 So torture actually creates terrorists.
00:12:58.000 It doesn't protect us from terrorists.
00:13:00.000 And certainly giving weapons to radical jihadists who then hand them over to ISIS is not going to protect us from terrorists.
00:13:07.000 I think it's very troubling when we hear Foxes, Hasselbeck, and others promote terrorism, as you point out, as the lie that is A, effective.
00:13:16.000 Even if it were effective, we shouldn't be using it.
00:13:20.000 That's the point I want to make to people.
00:13:22.000 I've got this article here, Paul, from the Washington Post saying Americans back the CIA.
00:13:26.000 And they say in polling from 2007, 2009, 2011, and again today, 2014, Americans have said they consider waterboarding to be torture.
00:13:35.000 Yet increasingly, they are for it.
00:13:38.000 So they don't really care whether it's torture or not if they think that it works.
00:13:43.000 And there's another article that really bothered me even more, and that was from a Christian magazine, World Magazine, WNG.org.
00:13:52.000 It's an article called, Torture in Our National Soul, and in this article, The writer essentially makes the case of situational ethics, moral relativism.
00:14:03.000 In other words, does the end justify the means?
00:14:05.000 He says Otto von Bismarck, the great 19th century German Chancellor, of course, the quote that he says, laws are like sausages, it's better not to see them.
00:14:05.000 Listen to this, Paul.
00:14:12.000 being made, they make that article for torture.
00:14:15.000 They say this is true of other things the government does in serving the public good, like grisly police work and ugly executions.
00:14:22.000 They say it's torturing a captured terrorist and a reasonable hope of saving thousands of innocent lives among the unpleasant necessities of involving and keeping us safe and free.
00:14:31.000 In other words, they put out the Jack Bauer scenario.
00:14:35.000 They actually list that in here.
00:14:36.000 You've got a ticking nuclear bomb and, you know, if you can break this guy's fingers and get the answer to that, then we ought to do that.
00:14:43.000 It's amazing that they even talk about how our enemies abroad are cutting off heads.
00:14:49.000 That's our ally, Saudi Arabia, that is doing far more beheading than ISIS has ever done.
00:14:55.000 And of course, they're the CIA's proxy in most of this.
00:14:58.000 That's the thing that really troubles me, is the idea that we would sell our souls, essentially, To achieve a means, and it's very troubling for me to see this coming from, of all places, a Christian magazine.
00:15:12.000 Let me read one more quote and then get your comments, Paul.
00:15:14.000 This writer, D.C.
00:15:15.000 Ennis, says, once we accept the, quote, no torture though the heavens may fall position is unreasonable, we are faced with a judgment call on the far margins of civic life in a tragically fallen world.
00:15:28.000 I would say no.
00:15:29.000 I would say that if we are going to embrace torture for the sake of the false hope that it's going to produce results even, even if it did produce results, we should reject it so that we do not become the monster that we're told we have to slay.
00:15:44.000 Paul, your comments.
00:15:46.000 Well, if you embrace methods and techniques used by some of the most despotic regimes throughout history, and then try and turn that into some kind of American virtue, I mean, that just reflects on you.
00:15:58.000 And read the Tugumbu military report out of Abu Ghraib, you know, raping teenagers with sticks dripping with battery acid.
00:16:07.000 And the other point is, the vast majority of these people they took into these camps at Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib, They were never even suspected of terrorism.
00:16:17.000 They were goat herders, they were taxi drivers.
00:16:20.000 The vast majority of them weren't even properly suspected of terrorism, never mind turned out to be terrorists.
00:16:26.000 So again, torture decreases national security.
00:16:29.000 It actually harms America.
00:16:32.000 So in supporting it, these neocons are not only exposing themselves as anti-American in terms of the spiritual value of opposing torture, they're actually harming American national security.
00:16:44.000 Yes they are.
00:16:45.000 Because it doesn't work and it creates more terrorists.
00:16:47.000 Every single shred of evidence in every study shows that.
00:16:51.000 Exactly.
00:16:52.000 Exactly like the drone program of assassination where we have a chair force back in the United States essentially killing people, massive civilian casualties which they dismiss as collateral damage and look at anybody that is of a certain age in the country as a militant.
00:17:09.000 That's the way they excuse it.
00:17:10.000 That's the way Brennan excused it.
00:17:12.000 And they never answer for their crimes.
00:17:15.000 They continue to get away with it.
00:17:16.000 Not only do they get away with it, but they get promoted.
00:17:19.000 Brennan gets promoted from justifying torture.
00:17:22.000 He then goes to be an apologist for the drone program.
00:17:25.000 Then he becomes the CIA director.
00:17:27.000 And they appear to be, when you look at this Feinstein report, They are essentially above answering to anybody, to the Senate, to anyone.
00:17:36.000 They go down and they list 20 different areas that they all blame on the CIA, and they say, hey, they did this, and they misled us on this, they lied to us about that, we didn't know what they were doing, and yet they will not broach the obvious solution, and that is to at least fire somebody.
00:17:52.000 They ought to be put in prison.
00:17:54.000 They ought to have a Nuremberg trial for these guys.
00:17:57.000 Well, I mean, if they were actually to fire someone, they would have to acknowledge that the entire program was wrong to begin with, so it's never going to happen.
00:18:05.000 Yes, and they want that power.
00:18:08.000 They want the power that they have.
00:18:10.000 Exactly.
00:18:11.000 I mean, drone strikes, 95% innocent civilians.
00:18:15.000 And go and watch a documentary like Skate Hill's Dirty Wars.
00:18:19.000 If you see your brother get massacred in a drone strike, that's going to radicalize you, and that's exactly what's happening.
00:18:26.000 It's creating terrorists in Pakistan, in Afghanistan, that hate America.
00:18:31.000 This is the consequence of torture and drone strikes.
00:18:34.000 And, you know, it does kind of make sense in a long-format way of thinking.
00:18:38.000 It creates more reason for more military intervention, more weapons sales.
00:18:42.000 So, by its logical conclusion, that's the only way you could support it, if you were a neocon who was going down that line of thinking.
00:18:51.000 But in terms of national security, it's horrible.
00:18:53.000 It's absolutely horrible for America.
00:18:55.000 Yes, absolutely, and of course that's how it is being used and that's why they're doing it.
00:18:59.000 It's not that they can't figure it out.
00:19:01.000 They know very well, Paul, that this is going to increase tensions, it's going to increase war.
00:19:06.000 That's by design.
00:19:08.000 They want a larger war so that they can sell into it with a military-industrial complex.
00:19:13.000 Let's quickly give a preview, because we're not going to have time to talk about it in this segment, but give a preview of your article up.
00:19:19.000 Police using social media posts to determine the threat score of suspects.
00:19:23.000 As I pointed out in the opening segment, it sounds like the 2009 MIAC report on steroids, but of course, it's on a much broader basis as well.
00:19:35.000 Yeah, this is a software program that police across the United States are using called Beware.
00:19:40.000 I actually got contacted by employees of this country, of this company, before I came on air, who themselves decry it.
00:19:47.000 Basically, they data mine your online comments, your social media posts, your quote, recent purchases, to give cops a heads up on how dangerous you might be.
00:19:59.000 There you go.
00:20:00.000 That's a preview.
00:20:01.000 We're going to have the rest of that.
00:20:02.000 Hang on, Paul, we've got to go to break.
00:20:03.000 Hang on, we gotta go to break.
00:20:04.000 We're gonna have the rest of that right after the break.
00:20:06.000 That's a preview for you.
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00:25:11.000 Now Paul, just before the break we were talking about, began talking about, you gave us a preview of your article here, how the police are using social media posts to determine threat scores of suspects.
00:25:22.000 It's bad enough, Paul, that they view the public as a threat.
00:25:26.000 They're told every day they go out, they're going into a war zone, they may not come back.
00:25:29.000 There's so many people in the public who want to kill them that they're being threatened.
00:25:34.000 So they build this sense of being threatened.
00:25:37.000 Now they're giving people an actual score by spying on them.
00:25:41.000 Tell us about that.
00:25:43.000 Yes, it's a program, software program that's been in use by police departments across the United States since 2012.
00:25:48.000 It ascribes people based on their home address a threat score of green, yellow or red based on recent purchases and quote Any comments that could be construed as offensive.
00:26:04.000 So you get a threat score as to how likely you're going to be a physical danger to police based on your recent purchases and social media posts and online comments.
00:26:14.000 And what is the standard for what they consider threatening in terms of online comments?
00:26:19.000 Well, we know.
00:26:20.000 Again, back in 2012, Brandon Raub was literally kidnapped from his own home for making what, in comparison to a lot of online content, were tame comments about taking back the Republic while referencing people like Thomas Jefferson, Martin Luther King, and John F. Kennedy.
00:26:39.000 We've seen kids... They would definitely get a red score, Thomas Jefferson, Martin Luther King, would definitely be red, wouldn't they?
00:26:45.000 A red rating.
00:26:45.000 Exactly.
00:26:45.000 It's chilling.
00:26:46.000 I mean, kids who post rap lyrics are getting visits from police.
00:26:51.000 And this is what they consider a threat.
00:26:53.000 This is $36,000 a year.
00:26:56.000 Again, most of which paid for by federal grants.
00:26:59.000 Again, it goes back to the Department of Homeland Security.
00:27:02.000 They're funding all this.
00:27:04.000 This is why the police keep using it.
00:27:06.000 So it's chilling.
00:27:08.000 Also, they use it to enforce nanny state enforcement codes.
00:27:12.000 So if your trees aren't trimmed properly to the city code, then they can tie your home address to your personality and target you that way.
00:27:21.000 So there's a whole Reuters report on it, and that is just one program amongst others in which they're data mining, going through billions of records to identify Americans as potential threats based on, quote, comments that could be construed as offensive.
00:27:37.000 Wow, that's outrageous because when you talk about them going on a fishing expedition on, you know, minor code violations like the way they don't like your trees trimmed or your grass trimmed or whatever, this allows them to essentially go through and look at who they don't like politically.
00:27:51.000 And then go dig up some dirt on them.
00:27:54.000 That's the really hideous thing about this.
00:27:57.000 It's something that we've seen before, Paul, when they talk about labeling people as sovereign citizens, or again this other article where they're talking about labeling them as constitutionalists.
00:28:06.000 They use those labels to essentially Get the threat perception up by the police, and we saw that happen in the wake of the Bundy Ranch standoff.
00:28:15.000 Immediately, Glenn Beck had on Mr. Bundy, and he had another person there that was interviewing him, trying to tie him to the Sovereign Citizen Movement, which he had no idea what they were talking about.
00:28:27.000 But they use these labels to try to scare the police into thinking that you're a physical threat to them, because they already tell everybody Tell them that everybody is something of a threat to them, but then they make it very specific and they tie it to people who are opposed to them.
00:28:41.000 Yeah, and violent crime is the lowest it's been in 40 years.
00:28:45.000 Violent crime against police officers is dropping.
00:28:49.000 So this narrative that the police are being sold, that violence against them is increasing and that everybody's out to attack the police, statistically is not true.
00:28:58.000 And this program could also be abused if they tie you to the wrong address, to an address that somebody else used to live in that has been identified as a threat.
00:29:07.000 Could turn a green rating into a red rating Is the quote turning a midday knock on the front door into a nighttime SWAT raid.
00:29:15.000 So if they confuse you with somebody else, as they've done on numerous false drug busts, then that could determine you to be a threat as well.
00:29:23.000 They could just confuse you with another person.
00:29:25.000 So it's absolutely horrifying.
00:29:26.000 We see people being killed all the time with these SWAT team raids, going to the wrong house.
00:29:31.000 That's not an uncommon occurrence anymore.
00:29:33.000 So that's something that, even if you are in total agreement with Obama and with Boehner, you should still be concerned about this because they might falsely identify you.
00:29:43.000 But this is a way to purge political opposition.
00:29:47.000 It's the enhancement of the police state.
00:29:48.000 We're going to be right back with Paul Joseph Watson.
00:29:50.000 and stay with us.
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00:33:08.000 You are listening to an InfoWars.com Frontline Report.
00:33:25.000 It's Alex Jones.
00:33:27.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
00:33:32.000 I'm David Knight, your host today.
00:33:33.000 I have Paul Joseph Watson with me from the UK.
00:33:36.000 We've just been talking about his article that's up on InfoWars.com about the police using the Beware program to assign a threat score to you.
00:33:48.000 Looking at your online media posts, profiling you, and essentially giving you a rating from green, yellow, to red.
00:33:56.000 And of course, the many problems of that, there's people who could be falsely identified.
00:34:01.000 It's a way they could come after their enemies.
00:34:03.000 And Paul, before we go back to this article, I wanted to give you Something that came out today, this is from the Free Thought Project, about a police union that was caught putting GPS on rival politicians' cars and framing them for driving under the influence.
00:34:18.000 Now, this is a situation where we've got a couple of former police officers arrested and charged with felonies after this plot came to light.
00:34:26.000 What was happening was they had These guys who are acting independently, rather they were not acting independently, they were hired by a law firm at the time represented over 120 police unions across California.
00:34:40.000 And we see this very often that it's the police unions who were standing against any kind of discipline for excessive police brutality.
00:34:47.000 But in this case, their beef that they had with these two politicians was that they was in regard to the budgets for the police departments.
00:34:54.000 They didn't think that they were getting enough money.
00:34:56.000 So what they did was they Had these two guys, who are city councilmen, they were meeting at a bar.
00:35:03.000 Afterwards, all they had was non-alcoholic beverages and then drove home.
00:35:11.000 The police get a call from an observer, let's call them a snitch, who told them that these two had driven home drunk.
00:35:21.000 And so the officers arrest them, then later determined that they're not under the influence of alcohol.
00:35:27.000 They found out that these two men tracked them in their car using GPS, then called 911 to report that they had been drinking and had seen them leaving a bar.
00:35:36.000 So that's how this can be used.
00:35:38.000 You can use this to take down your political enemies and when you look at this, you look at a police union law firm that represents law firms hiring these guys To set up councilmen who are opposed to increasing police budgets.
00:35:53.000 You understand?
00:35:53.000 That's how bad this is getting.
00:35:55.000 Somebody that they're politically opposed to, they try to set them up using guys who are operating as snitches.
00:36:02.000 They try to set them up for driving under the influence.
00:36:04.000 Now those guys are going to jail.
00:36:05.000 But this is how this kind of program, the BEWARE program, can be used against political enemies.
00:36:12.000 I mean, exactly.
00:36:13.000 If you give them these tools, then it's likely that at some point down the road they will be used for retribution.
00:36:19.000 That's how it works, again, in any despotic society that you want to look at.
00:36:23.000 The more technologically advanced they get, the more these kind of tools are used for snitch purposes to rat out people's business competitors, their political enemies.
00:36:33.000 The family members who they got personal issues with.
00:36:36.000 So the corruption becomes so endemic that it moves beyond any aspect of law and becomes petty and personal.
00:36:44.000 And then that's when you get a complete Gestapo state.
00:36:44.000 Exactly.
00:36:47.000 Yeah, you're talking about petty and personal.
00:36:49.000 These are people, these are elected councilmen who don't want to increase the police budget as much as the police would like to have it.
00:36:55.000 So they're targeted and set up.
00:36:57.000 Now, Paul, we also had this report that has come out today, the Supreme Court, I should say, not a report, but a decision.
00:37:03.000 The Supreme Court just decided by 8 to 1 that the police can stop your car even if they don't have a valid reason to stop your car.
00:37:11.000 They can then search you.
00:37:14.000 They just made it easier for the police to search your car.
00:37:16.000 In essence, what it boils down to, I think, is essentially enacting the New York Police Department's stop and frisk law Doing it on a much broader scale.
00:37:26.000 And what they said was, in this particular case, it was a car that was stopped in North Carolina.
00:37:32.000 The police officer said, I'm stopping you because you only have one brake light.
00:37:36.000 Well, that's not against the law in North Carolina.
00:37:38.000 You can have just one brake light.
00:37:40.000 Now to excuse this, listen to the hoops that they jumped through to try to justify this.
00:37:45.000 Justice Roberts who wrote the decision said, I suspect most of you were surprised to learn that one brake light only is required in North Carolina, even if you are from North Carolina.
00:37:55.000 My question would be, don't the cops understand what the law is?
00:38:00.000 Can they not count to two?
00:38:02.000 Why would they if they're going to pull somebody over and then search the car and then find something else?
00:38:06.000 To me that is a stop-and-frisk type of intimidation and when you combine that Paul with your article here about the beware program that is being subsidized for local police departments by the federal government they give $36,000 a year to pay for this for the local police department.
00:38:23.000 When you put that together, is somebody going to run a beware score on you to get some kind of a threat assessment and then use that as a reason to pull you over?
00:38:32.000 Of course they will!
00:38:34.000 Well, exactly.
00:38:35.000 The most chilling aspect of it for me is the recent purchases.
00:38:39.000 I mean, will that include gun purchases?
00:38:41.000 Will they say you're stockpiling weapons and ammunition and that's a reason to go and case your house or slap a GPS device on your vehicle?
00:38:51.000 I mean, it's completely open-ended, the abuse that this could lead to.
00:38:54.000 And again, we have to keep emphasising we're not anti-cop.
00:38:58.000 We're anti-corrupt cop.
00:39:00.000 That's the whole idea.
00:39:01.000 This is reflecting badly on the legitimate, genuine police officers across the country because this corruption is not being stamped out and it's only being encouraged by the fact that the majority of these high-profile cases, the police officers in question, never get in trouble.
00:39:17.000 So it never discourages this kind of behaviour.
00:39:19.000 Well, we're pro due process.
00:39:22.000 And that's why when I look at something like the Supreme Court decision where they say you don't have to have a reason to do it, when the Constitution talks about having a reasonable cause, they're talking about it in the context of going before a judge.
00:39:35.000 It doesn't mean, as we use it in modern parlance, reasonable says, well, I think that that's plausible.
00:39:42.000 No, it means you have a reason.
00:39:44.000 You're going to go to a judge and you're going to say, This is what I'm looking for.
00:39:48.000 This is why I'm looking for it.
00:39:51.000 This is where I'm going to look for it.
00:39:53.000 And he gives you a search warrant.
00:39:54.000 And when we take that away, we are in a police state.
00:39:58.000 And we can see the effects of this.
00:40:00.000 We can see how the federal government, just looking at the name of this program that you're talking about here, Paul, the Beware program.
00:40:08.000 Everything is there to scare the cops, to make them adversaries of the public, to ramp up the threat, and now they're assigning these scores to individuals.
00:40:18.000 Exactly.
00:40:19.000 I mean, somebody who works within that company contacted me and said that everybody who works on that program Well they were all freaked out by it and they're trying to convince their superiors to abandon it.
00:40:30.000 So even the people actually working on it see how chilling it is.
00:40:34.000 And then if we could shift into this other article which is the MRAP situation.
00:40:39.000 Obviously we had the exclusive video out of Spokane, Washington where the sheriff's deputy said on tape We've got a lot of constitutionalists and a lot of people that stockpile weapons, lots of ammunition.
00:40:50.000 They have weapons here locally.
00:40:51.000 That was the quote.
00:40:52.000 We put it out on InfoWars.
00:40:54.000 And then the Spokane County Sheriff, Ozzy Knezovich, if I'm pronouncing that right, made this bizarre nine-minute video in which he did everything in his power while failing completely to shift the focus away from the comments made by the Sheriff's deputy And blame us for reporting on the issue.
00:41:16.000 Apparently now it's our fault that the Sheriff's Deputy made these offensive comments.
00:41:21.000 And we're hate-mongering for drawing attention to it.
00:41:25.000 I guess that puts us at the red level, doesn't it, Paul?
00:41:28.000 But there is, at first they came out, they had no comment.
00:41:31.000 Mikhail, when he posted that story, he got a comment from an elected official in the area who thought it was outrageous, after he'd looked at the video.
00:41:38.000 The video is outrageous, but it's evidence of the way they're being trained by the FBI, by the Department of Homeland Security.
00:41:46.000 And they came out and said it was taken out of context.
00:41:48.000 It's not taken out of context.
00:41:50.000 Look at the video!
00:41:51.000 He's just going on and on about his wonderful new military toy that he's got, and the lady asked him, why do you need that here?
00:41:58.000 And he says, because of Constitutionalism.
00:42:00.000 Because people have weapons.
00:42:01.000 People have ammunition.
00:42:02.000 That's why we need this.
00:42:04.000 And the Sheriff's rant, I mean he claimed we were taking it out of context because we didn't play all the other interviews with all the other officers, but his main point of contention, the context that we should have given it according to him, and this makes absolutely no sense so it proves he has no case whatsoever, is the fact that the woman who filmed the clip
00:42:26.000 claimed that they had the MRAP tanks, the armored vehicles out at this event to desensitize the children who were at this charity event to a militarized police state.
00:42:36.000 He said that because we didn't include what she said in the video, that that somehow invalidates the offensiveness of what the sheriff's deputy said.
00:42:46.000 It doesn't matter what she said!
00:42:48.000 I mean, she could have said that the MRAP was being used to smuggle in, you know, little green men from outer space.
00:42:54.000 It's not about what she said.
00:42:56.000 That's not the context.
00:42:57.000 The context of the clip are those comments in which the sheriff's deputy said, yeah, we need armored vehicles to deal with constitutionalists and people stockpiling weapons, which again translates as gun owners.
00:43:10.000 So it was a bizarre rant.
00:43:13.000 They should have just come out and apologized.
00:43:15.000 I mean, the best thing they could have done is probably ignore it, because now there's a huge protest taking place on Saturday outside the Spokane Police Department.
00:43:22.000 Yeah, talk about that.
00:43:23.000 Talk about the protest that's being set up for Saturday.
00:43:27.000 Exactly.
00:43:27.000 But instead of making an apology and de-escalating the situation, this sheriff merely said that the sheriff's deputy was cautioned for his choice of words, okay?
00:43:41.000 Not the actual meaning and content of his words, his choice of words.
00:43:45.000 They failed to issue any kind of apology, they didn't retract any of it, and they blamed us for reporting on it.
00:43:51.000 And then the sheriff goes on in this nine-minute clip, which is in the InfoWars article, To justify these comments made by the Sheriff's Deputy by implying that Americans are a violent threat towards police.
00:44:04.000 And again, look at the stats.
00:44:07.000 Violent attacks against police are down.
00:44:09.000 Violent crimes in general in America are down 40%.
00:44:14.000 You cannot justify the purchase or the acquisition of these armoured vehicles by citing violence against police because statistically it's not a case that you can make.
00:44:24.000 There was the other example.
00:44:26.000 This is not an isolated case.
00:44:28.000 We had the purchase of a Bearcat armored vehicle in Concord, New Hampshire last year.
00:44:33.000 The police chief justified the purchase of that vehicle by stating that it was needed to deal with sovereign citizens, free staters and Occupy New Hampshire activists.
00:44:45.000 So basically that's Libertarians and left-wingers, the armoured vehicles are needed to deal with people's political free speech.
00:44:55.000 So this is a nationwide issue.
00:44:56.000 It's not an isolated example.
00:44:59.000 And that's why, rightly, people are up in arms over these comments.
00:45:02.000 That's why there's a protest taking place.
00:45:04.000 That is the issue.
00:45:06.000 That the sheriff needs to address and apologize for, not make some bizarre claim that we didn't include the context of this woman's comments who was filming the police officer, why that had anything to do with it whatsoever, which is what basically he rambled on about for nine minutes in this YouTube clip, making absolutely no sense whatsoever.
00:45:25.000 The context of this is what's happening coming out of Homeland Security.
00:45:29.000 We know that this sheriff's deputy didn't just come up with constitutionalists on his own.
00:45:34.000 We know that's what they're being trained for.
00:45:36.000 We know that's what they were doing across the country in New Hampshire.
00:45:39.000 This is Washington State, and we've seen it in all points in between.
00:45:42.000 This is something that is coming out of Washington.
00:45:44.000 We've seen the documents that they release, and we've seen the outrage in New Hampshire, for example, From the marine colonel who eventually came to Austin and spoke in our studio here.
00:45:56.000 Alex interviewed him.
00:45:57.000 You can go back and take a look at that interview.
00:45:58.000 He was absolutely outraged at the town hall meeting that they would equip their soldiers better than he, as a marine colonel, had his soldiers equipped in a foreign war.
00:46:10.000 He said, what is this for?
00:46:12.000 And it is outrageous.
00:46:14.000 And this sheriff, if he's trying to tell us that this is something that was just a poor choice of words, That is very disingenuous because we know that those are the terms and those are the methods that they're using to try to militarize the police, to try to build this perception of threat.
00:46:30.000 We see that from this article, we've seen it from the scenarios that they've had in the past, and we've seen it from the entire program, this entire 1033 program.
00:46:40.000 Exactly.
00:46:41.000 He cites the recent case, tragic though it was, of this cop that got killed by these two sovereign citizens who draped him in a Gadsden flag, which was horrible and tragic.
00:46:51.000 What he doesn't tell you is the fact that Americans are nine times more likely to get killed by police officers than terrorists.
00:46:59.000 5,000 Americans have been killed since 9-11.
00:47:01.000 And again, violent crime against police is going down, as it's going down generally across the country.
00:47:07.000 So the threat is not Americans against police.
00:47:10.000 That threat is diminishing.
00:47:11.000 The threat is violent and militarized police officers, as we've seen.
00:47:16.000 And then there was another bizarre comment that he gave to the Spokesman Review.
00:47:20.000 That he was reluctant to take the video from Infowars seriously because of the conspiracy theories posted on the site.
00:47:26.000 So again, he's trying to shift all the focus away from the comments made by the Sheriff's Deputy and transpose it onto other content that's posted on our website as if that has anything whatsoever to do with this specific video clip.
00:47:41.000 Absolutely.
00:47:43.000 Shoot the messenger.
00:47:44.000 Don't respond to what his officer said, but just try to attack us individually, personally.
00:47:50.000 Yeah, and then the campaign there in Spokane, why they're having this protest partly, and the representative will be there as well, is they're trying to get them to send back these modified assault rifles and these MRAP tanks.
00:48:03.000 The Sheriff's argument for not sending them back is because they were obtained for free.
00:48:10.000 That's his main argument as to why they shouldn't be sent back.
00:48:13.000 Not because they're intimidating, that they escalate hostility and tension between the population and the police department, but because just because they got them for free, that means they should keep them and continue to use them.
00:48:26.000 They got them for free like people would get a white elephant for free from the Raja in India.
00:48:32.000 They have to maintain those vehicles.
00:48:34.000 They do not get them title turned over to them.
00:48:37.000 They are loaned to them by the Department of Defense.
00:48:41.000 They have to maintain them.
00:48:42.000 Those are very expensive vehicles to maintain.
00:48:45.000 That cost is going to be borne by the local people.
00:48:49.000 But Paul, it's really about a campaign of terrorism.
00:48:53.000 It's about striking fear and intimidation into the heart of the people.
00:48:58.000 And this, both of these articles, this social media, looking at social media posts to determine the threat score of suspects, Telling the police that the population is a threat to them, evaluating people, giving them a score based on their purchasing activities, based on their political beliefs, and then doing things like telling people we're looking out for constitutionalists.
00:49:19.000 All of this is about terrorizing the public, displaying this massive amount of force.
00:49:25.000 It used to really It used to be something that only the Soviet Union and Communist China did.
00:49:30.000 They would have their May Day parades and they would run the big equipment down the streets on May Day to intimidate the population, to show what big bullies they are.
00:49:40.000 Now we have this being done by all of our local police departments at the behest of the Department of Defense, who loans them these things that have to be maintained by the local citizens.
00:49:53.000 Just read what the police chief Duval said in New Hampshire.
00:49:56.000 The state of New Hampshire's experience with terrorism slants primarily towards the domestic type.
00:50:02.000 This was his justification for acquiring the armored vehicles.
00:50:05.000 Groups such as sovereign citizens, free staters, and occupy New Hampshire.
00:50:09.000 Free staters are basically just libertarians.
00:50:13.000 They're not connected to any violence whatsoever.
00:50:16.000 And then, you know, neither are Occupy New Hampshire.
00:50:18.000 It's just left-wing protesters.
00:50:20.000 That was the justification.
00:50:21.000 This is to police political free speech in America.
00:50:24.000 This is why they're buying the armoured vehicles.
00:50:27.000 Now it's on record.
00:50:28.000 Yes, absolutely.
00:50:29.000 Yeah, you look at things that the quote-unquote terrorists, the free-staters do.
00:50:33.000 They go around and they pay people's parking meters when they expire.
00:50:38.000 That's a Robin Hood program that they've got in Keene, New Hampshire.
00:50:41.000 That's the kind of threat to the police state that they are.
00:50:44.000 They basically cut off the police state's revenue coming from parking tickets.
00:50:48.000 But they're not terrorists.
00:50:49.000 And they're coming after people, as you said, Paul, because of their political affiliations, because of the way they're being profiled.
00:50:55.000 This is extremely dangerous, because we know about how our government uses SWAT teams, in many cases, against even the people that they're not looking for.
00:51:04.000 Not only against innocent people, but against the people who they're not even looking for.
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00:55:48.000 Now Paul, as we were talking in the last segment about what's happening with the police state, I wanted to go in this very last segment back to your comments yesterday.
00:56:00.000 We were talking about the media narrative and how they were deliberately trying to walk back against attaching this terrorist event in Sydney to ISIS or to anything that was political.
00:56:14.000 We see this happening today with Obama failing to blame the Taliban for the mass school murder in Pakistan.
00:56:21.000 Now, what he did, he did not use the name Taliban.
00:56:23.000 Instead, he referred to them as terrorists.
00:56:26.000 He said they're going to support the government of Pakistan, its efforts to combat terrorism and extremism, but not mentioning the Taliban.
00:56:34.000 What do you make of that?
00:56:36.000 Well, I mean, we've seen that before with Obama, but again, I think it's tied to the fact that, you know, his Afghanistan and Pakistan policies being a complete failure and these drone strikes have created more radicalised extremists in the region, so that's one reason why you would want to avoid that word, but...
00:56:52.000 Yeah, if he talks about the Taliban, if he talks about the Taliban, people might say, but wait, I thought those are the people that we spent a trillion dollars to eradicate out of Afghanistan.
00:57:01.000 You mean the people that we spent a trillion dollars to defeat in Afghanistan just murdered 120 plus people in a school?
00:57:10.000 Exactly, and it's similar to the Australian case, because as I explained yesterday, after it came out who the individual responsible was, the media narrative kind of shied away from the fact that he was inspired by ISIS.
00:57:25.000 A lot of the media reports ignored entirely the fact that he got these hostages to say this is an ISIS attack on Australia.
00:57:31.000 He demanded an ISIS flag.
00:57:33.000 Yet the media subsequently shifted almost instantly to blame it on a lone nut with mental issues that was out on bail for a criminal matter.
00:57:43.000 So it was interesting how that shifted when it came out that this guy had actually been brought into the country by the Australian government.
00:57:50.000 They'd given him political asylum and used him as a spokesperson to demonize the Iranian government.
00:57:57.000 So they were quite reticent to identify the true motives that this perpetrator had when it came out that he actually was inspired by ISIS, which of course grew as a result of the Obama administration and other governments destabilization of Syria.
00:58:13.000 So we see that happening over and over again now.
00:58:16.000 Yeah, we see that we are allying ourselves with rebels in Syria.
00:58:20.000 You and I have both talked about that.
00:58:21.000 Alex has talked about it.
00:58:23.000 And of course, in the Middle East, we're allying ourselves with Saudi Arabia, who has beheaded more people than ISIS has as well.
00:58:30.000 And we have an article up on Infowars.com.
00:58:32.000 That Saudi Arabia is now reportedly going to have a death penalty for smuggling Bibles.
00:58:38.000 Thank you so much for joining us, Paul Joseph Watson.
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01:00:27.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:00:34.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
01:00:36.000 On this Tuesday, December 16th, 2014, I'm David Knight, your host today.
01:00:39.000 I'm going to be joined in the next segment by Maren Katusa, who wrote The Colder War.
01:00:45.000 This is a very fascinating book, because for me, a lot of these events, I was aware of them, I remembered them, I didn't have them in a timeline, in a context.
01:00:53.000 And I want to read to you, because I found this to be absolutely amazing, the false flag techniques that Vladimir Putin used to hoist himself to the top.
01:01:04.000 This is something that parallels exactly what has happened with our government so many times in the last decade.
01:01:12.000 Now, there were four, they had a previous war with Chechnya that basically left the Soviet Union embarrassed and looking ineffective.
01:01:20.000 He used a second Chechen war to make himself look very strong and powerful as a leader.
01:01:27.000 It was a short war, even though the conflict stretched on for a long time.
01:01:31.000 They declared victory very early, kind of like Bush with his mission accomplished.
01:01:37.000 But I want to read to you what led up to this.
01:01:41.000 Now, this is from the book, The Colder War.
01:01:43.000 They said, the first of four closely spaced terrorist attacks came September 4th, 1999 in Dagestan.
01:01:49.000 Now, that would be in Chechnya.
01:01:50.000 There was a bomb that leveled a barracks that was housing Russian soldiers and their families.
01:01:55.000 64 Russian men, women and children were killed.
01:01:56.000 Five days later, there was a bombing in Moscow, this time an apartment building.
01:02:01.000 The working-class neighborhood in the city's southeast had a device that had been stashed on the building's ground floor, brought down all eight floors, and killed 94 residents as they slept.
01:02:12.000 Now, here's the key.
01:02:13.000 Within hours, the Russian government officials all but certified that Chechen terrorists were responsible, and calls for retaliation came from all political quarters.
01:02:21.000 Instead of treating the site as an active crime scene, however, And sifting through the ruins, what did the Russian authorities do?
01:02:28.000 They razed the building just days after the blast and hauled the rubble away to a municipal dump.
01:02:35.000 Where have you seen that happen before?
01:02:36.000 To an FSB storehouse.
01:02:38.000 Not the FBI's storehouse like we do here, but this is the FSB.
01:02:42.000 Nothing was left for examination by third parties.
01:02:45.000 Then four days later, authorities were called early in the morning to check on suspicious activity outside another apartment building on Moscow's outskirts.
01:02:53.000 They left about 2 a.m.
01:02:55.000 not finding anything.
01:02:56.000 They didn't notice a massive bomb in the building which exploded three hours later at 5 a.m.
01:03:01.000 in the morning.
01:03:02.000 A nine-story building collapsed.
01:03:04.000 121 died.
01:03:06.000 Then came something very odd.
01:03:08.000 A speaker of the Duma, Russia's lower parliamentary house, relayed to the Parliament a report that he just received that an apartment building 700 miles south of Moscow had been blown up the previous night.
01:03:20.000 Not in Moscow, but in a different location.
01:03:23.000 Okay, so what happens is, that didn't happen yet.
01:03:27.000 That happened later.
01:03:29.000 Shades of the BBC announcing that Building 7 had collapsed.
01:03:34.000 Now, it said that it seemed no more than an inconsequential blunder until three days later, an apartment building in the city that he had named was indeed blown up.
01:03:43.000 And so a Duma member asked, how did it happen that you told us on Monday about a blast that didn't occur until Thursday?
01:03:50.000 In lieu of an answer, the questioner had his microphone cut off.
01:03:53.000 Then it gets even more interesting.
01:03:55.000 Then something very strange happened in Riazin, 120 miles southeast of Moscow.
01:04:00.000 They say everybody was on hyper alert looking for something to happen to an apartment building.
01:04:05.000 So some residents noted that a white car pulled up and two guys get out, go into the basement and leave large sacks.
01:04:12.000 They call the police, who then discovered three 110-pound sacks wired to a detonator and a timer in the basement.
01:04:19.000 They quickly evacuated the building.
01:04:21.000 A local explosive expert was called in to disarm the device.
01:04:24.000 He determined that they contained an explosive, RDX, powerful enough to bring down the entire building, as we've seen before.
01:04:32.000 In the meantime, they blocked all the roads leading out of this town.
01:04:36.000 Acting Prime Minister Putin flexed his rhetorical muscles, he says, and congratulated the residents for the vigilance.
01:04:41.000 The Russian Interior Minister chimed in, lauded recent improvements, and then they found out they actually arrested the guys.
01:04:48.000 And they were with the FSB.
01:04:51.000 They were their CIA.
01:04:53.000 Then they changed the story.
01:04:55.000 They said, we were just testing your vigilance.
01:04:58.000 Do you see how this happens?
01:04:59.000 It's called a false flag.
01:05:01.000 It's used over and over again by every government.
01:05:04.000 We're going to talk to the author of that, Marin Katusa, right after the break.
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01:08:18.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:08:23.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
01:08:31.000 I'm David Knight, your host today...
01:08:33.000 And we're going to be talking to Marin Katusa, the author of The Colder War.
01:08:38.000 If you don't hear the previous segment based on your radio station, if they're carrying the news in the previous segment, I would suggest that you look at the online version of what I covered.
01:08:49.000 It was a very interesting chronology of the way that Putin used false flags to essentially ascend to power.
01:08:58.000 A lot of parallels to what goes on in this country, or maybe even better yet, by the book.
01:09:03.000 This book is a page turner.
01:09:05.000 I really enjoyed it.
01:09:06.000 It has, it puts a lot of events that I remember vaguely.
01:09:09.000 It brings them back, freshens them up, puts them in a timeline, and more importantly, puts them in a much larger context.
01:09:16.000 Let's go to, is Marin on the line now?
01:09:19.000 Okay, let's go to Marin Katusa, the author of The Colder War.
01:09:22.000 He works for Casey Research.
01:09:25.000 He is an economics advisor.
01:09:27.000 He has a newsletter there as well.
01:09:30.000 You manage a hedge fund, don't you?
01:09:33.000 Correct.
01:09:34.000 It's one of the largest in Western Canada.
01:09:36.000 Yes, and I tell you what, you certainly know the context, and we've seen massive moves in the last couple of weeks.
01:09:43.000 We've seen the U.S.
01:09:44.000 Congress move to cover derivatives for the banks, something that has massive implications for U.S.
01:09:50.000 taxpayers.
01:09:51.000 But we also see this massive move by Saudi Arabia to not cut production in the face of falling energy prices, essentially creating a lot of problems for Russia already.
01:10:04.000 We see that the ruble has fallen 20 percent.
01:10:07.000 They have raised their interest rates to 17 percent.
01:10:09.000 Talk about that a little bit.
01:10:11.000 You're nailing all these right on the head.
01:10:13.000 Congratulations to you because your viewers are getting information that they're not getting in the mainstream media.
01:10:19.000 What a lot of people, if you want a breaking story, what my sources in Russia are now telling me that actually Lavrov, who's the equivalent of the Secretary of Foreign Affairs for the Russians, has basically stated and warned that the Russians, because now they view Crimea as part of Russia, they're going to be moving nuclear weapons there.
01:10:40.000 And according to the Russian strategy, if you want to talk about false flags, here's the ultimate false flag where now the Russians are going to be moving nuclear weapons into Crimea, which is a huge risk for the Western authorities.
01:10:53.000 Now, in the last 24 hours, Germany has now also done a 180 on the U.S. sanctions and saying, wait, let's time out here.
01:11:01.000 Germany does not want Russia and Turkey to solidify a long-term contract deal, because the last thing Germany wants is to be vulnerable and for the European Union to be vulnerable and Turkey's holding the tap.
01:11:14.000 So now Turkey is holding off on advancing the sanctions.
01:11:17.000 So we're in real time, things are changing, and the Russians have many more false flags to keep the turmoil going.
01:11:24.000 Yes, the oil price has gone down for Russia, but what's important to understand is the ruble price is, has decreased much more than the price of the oil.
01:11:33.000 So if you're a Russian oil producer, that's the best that you can possibly be in the situation because you're still in a bull market or an uptrend in your oil.
01:11:45.000 So these are very important facts to understand that our Western media is not talking about.
01:11:49.000 You know, one of the things that I'm concerned about is putting the American taxpayer on the hook for ensuring through the FDIC program the derivatives market.
01:11:59.000 Because there's already been reports that a lot of oil futures are going to be essentially worthless.
01:12:05.000 Already that's happening.
01:12:07.000 As the future market starts to tumble, that's going to spread out, as we've seen in the past, to other commodities, as well as we're already seeing to the currency in Russia.
01:12:17.000 And of course that's going to continue to spread to the larger stock market.
01:12:21.000 It is the biggest risk right now to the North American markets that nobody's talking about.
01:12:28.000 At the end of the chapter in our book, The Cold War, we get into exactly that.
01:12:32.000 Why to understand the derivatives is so important.
01:12:35.000 And this really is nuclear economic weapons of mass destruction.
01:12:40.000 That who's regulating this?
01:12:41.000 Which banks are going to be vulnerable?
01:12:42.000 And Americans need to understand, is your personal savings at risk here?
01:12:46.000 And I'm telling you, the implosion of the debt and the derivatives markets on the US shale, everyone's thinking that it's the Russians that are suffering.
01:12:54.000 The US shale sector is significantly suffering at $55 oil, so there's a lot of risks out there.
01:13:00.000 Oh, absolutely.
01:13:02.000 And to me, it looks like a massive economic war, of course, has already broken out with what's going on with the oil.
01:13:08.000 That's Putin's base.
01:13:11.000 He's built his country, as you pointed out.
01:13:13.000 His master plan is to base the country on natural resources.
01:13:17.000 So when they attack that, meanwhile, Putin Is attacking the petrodollar, which has essentially been the big leverage that America has had in terms of being the world's economy.
01:13:28.000 Let's go back and talk, let's kind of run this out.
01:13:31.000 Talk about how this is not something that started with the Cold War.
01:13:34.000 This is what you point out is called the Great Game, going back to Rudyard Kipling.
01:13:38.000 This is something that's been going on with Russia and the West for a long time.
01:13:41.000 Talk about that a little bit.
01:13:43.000 So let's bring it back to when, you know, it was the Western world that discovered oil in the Middle East.
01:13:43.000 Definitely.
01:13:48.000 And if you go to Iran and understand the history, we go through all that in the Cold War.
01:13:55.000 The British, that's where they secured all their oil for World War II was through Iran and then the Americans came in in the 50s and they overthrew the existing regime and then it backfired on them so then they moved over to Saudi Arabia.
01:14:08.000 Now, when the oil crisis in the early 70s happened, America was faced with a double attack.
01:14:13.000 First of all, oil prices quadrupled essentially in a few months and the second one was when the French Basically called the US dollar and wanted their gold back.
01:14:22.000 Nixon had no choice but to close the gold window.
01:14:25.000 So now Kissinger had to come up with a plan.
01:14:27.000 And what he devised was he went to Saudi Arabia and said, look, this is what we need to do.
01:14:31.000 We can guarantee your family, the house Assad, a long lasting regime.
01:14:36.000 But this is what you need to do.
01:14:38.000 You can only sell your oil in terms of US dollars.
01:14:41.000 And then you have to reinvest those those currency that Those reserves back into the U.S.
01:14:47.000 dollar and with Saudi Arabia's the most powerful producer of the OPEC nations, then you had Kuwait, follow Qatar, UAE and other OPEC nations.
01:14:56.000 So that's the beginning of the petrodollar and that has been very important to the average way of life of the average American that a lot of people don't realize is now at risk.
01:15:06.000 So what they did essentially was they offered a protection racket, just as governments and gangsters typically do.
01:15:12.000 They say, we're going to protect you in exchange for our protection, our military weapons, and we're going to make sure that your company, that your country, I guess you could call it a company, that your country remains secure and that the House of Saud essentially stays in control here.
01:15:27.000 We're going to do everything we can with the CIA, with the military-industrial complex to protect you.
01:15:32.000 In return, We're going to make sure that you price oil in dollars and then you take all the money that you get and you bank it at the Federal Reserve.
01:15:43.000 So then we've got the CIA as well as the Federal Reserve, our two organizations that we're not allowed to audit.
01:15:49.000 Both there and supporting the House of Saud, and of course, Prince Bandar, 22 years as an ambassador to the United States, now head of the Saudi intelligence service, pushing very heavily for us to get involved in a war in Syria, promising that Saudi Arabia would even pay our expenses if we would go to war in Syria.
01:16:09.000 This is essentially somebody that is tied in as a proxy for the CIA, a proxy for the Federal Reserve in this area, is it?
01:16:20.000 You've nailed it.
01:16:20.000 That's exactly what it is.
01:16:21.000 And, you know, Saudi Arabia really is a family corporation.
01:16:24.000 When I traveled to Kuwait and went to Iraq, it really is a small, rich class, and then it's all the workers, and there's workers from, you know, India, Thailand, across the world, and they have no voting rights.
01:16:36.000 Even though they try to say, you know, that everyone's equal, it really isn't.
01:16:40.000 And it's really a shame that The Americans are exposed that that's who your allies are.
01:16:46.000 It really is a suppressed society.
01:16:49.000 And you look at what's going on here, even with Syria, where Obama has failed foreign policy, he was backing the exact individuals which today are ISIS.
01:16:59.000 This is really, if you wanted to write a book about failed foreign policy, all you have to do is just write a summary of what Obama's done in the last six years.
01:17:06.000 And it's sadly what every American needs to know.
01:17:09.000 The worst possible outcome of a failed US foreign policy is Obama's pushed Russia and China closer together than the last 100 years combined.
01:17:19.000 And that is the worst possible aspect.
01:17:21.000 And that's part of what we're calling the Colder War.
01:17:23.000 News article today that just came out.
01:17:25.000 China's Treasury holdings fall to their lowest since February 2013.
01:17:29.000 They held $1.25 trillion in U.S. debt.
01:17:33.000 But as of October, a $13.6 billion drop from September, said the Treasury Department.
01:17:39.000 So already we see the Federal Reserve losing some of its clout there.
01:17:44.000 That is a key part of the petrodollar, that the Federal Reserve keeps that clout there.
01:17:50.000 And, of course, the way that...
01:17:52.000 Putin is going to attack the petrodollar is using BRICS.
01:17:56.000 The Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa.
01:17:59.000 He's going to use them to go around the American dollar and essentially take the American dollar away from being the world's reserve currency.
01:18:09.000 Is that correct?
01:18:10.000 Definitely, and I urge all your viewers to go to the Cold War website, ColdWar.com.
01:18:16.000 We've actually created videos to really make it an entertaining, but more importantly, educational aspect of what's going on right now with the Cold War.
01:18:24.000 My book made the New York Times bestseller list, and we really nail what's going on.
01:18:28.000 It's not just about China and Russia, but you look at France.
01:18:33.000 They've attacked the petrodollar.
01:18:34.000 They've turned their back on the U.S.
01:18:36.000 You look at what Canada's doing, one of the major partners in the little brother of America.
01:18:36.000 dollar.
01:18:40.000 They're now doing currency swaps outside of the U.S.
01:18:43.000 dollar.
01:18:44.000 You know, the secret of the petrodollar, the rest of the world's talking about it.
01:18:47.000 It's only the American government that's trying to hide it and cover it up.
01:18:51.000 Yeah, I like your book because, like I said before, it puts things into a context and it's a real page-turner.
01:18:58.000 I didn't expect to see that from an economics book.
01:19:01.000 Anybody that likes history, anybody that likes politics is really going to like this book.
01:19:05.000 I like the fact that you go back and to Very old history and bring it up to the current level in so many different countries and in so many different ways.
01:19:14.000 And as you pointed out, of course, as everybody knows, after World War II, the US was essentially in the catbird seat.
01:19:20.000 They were untouched domestically in terms of production.
01:19:23.000 They had most of the world's manufacturing capacity, a large part of the world's gold.
01:19:27.000 And as you pointed out, as that commodity started to come under pressure, they moved over to essentially using oil as the commodity that's backing the currency.
01:19:37.000 I had never really thought about it that way before.
01:19:40.000 Yeah, and you know what's interesting about all this?
01:19:43.000 The average American, and you never hear about this, but you know, it's sad for people to realize that even within the U.S.
01:19:49.000 for the last 25 years, the American electricity matrix has depended about 10%.
01:19:55.000 One in every 10 homes in America is powered by Russian nuclear fuel.
01:19:58.000 Hang on, we're going to be right back.
01:20:00.000 We've got to go to commercial break with Marin Katusa, The Colder War.
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01:24:22.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
01:24:23.000 This is Tuesday, December 16, 2014.
01:24:26.000 I'm David Knight and we're talking to Marin Katusa.
01:24:30.000 As his bio here points out, he's one of the most successful fund managers in the energy and resource exploration sectors.
01:24:36.000 His hands-on approach has taken him around the world, and he really understands the historical context.
01:24:41.000 This is an excellent book here, The Colder War, published by Casey Publishing.
01:24:46.000 And of course, that's Doug Casey's group, and Doug Casey has been a guest here with Alex several times.
01:24:53.000 Now, just before we went to the break, Mr. Catuso, you started to talk about the U.S.
01:24:57.000 dependence on Russian oil.
01:24:59.000 Tell us about that.
01:25:01.000 Well, it's actually the Russian nuclear fuel, uranium, and it's shocking to me that, you know, last year, for example, a Russian company produced more uranium on American soil than all of the American companies combined.
01:25:15.000 That's shocking to me.
01:25:18.000 America imports 90% of the uranium it consumes, and America is the largest consumer of uranium in the world, and more importantly, 10%, 1 out of 10, One out of every ten homes in America is powered by Russian nuclear fuel.
01:25:32.000 This is shocking.
01:25:33.000 You know, these are risks that people aren't talking about right now that Americans need to know.
01:25:37.000 It needs to be brought up to the politicians so we can change this failed foreign policy.
01:25:43.000 Energy, our access to cheap energy affects not only our lifestyle, but even our health, our longevity in any country.
01:25:51.000 You can go back and you can show that access to cheap energy is the biggest producer of wealth in any country.
01:25:57.000 Putin understands that.
01:25:58.000 He has built his global plan, as you point out in the book, on the rich natural resources of Russia, in terms of being very rich in oil and natural gas, in terms of uranium.
01:26:10.000 On the other hand, we have a president Who, even before he came into office, said he was going to shut down the coal industry.
01:26:18.000 He said you could build it, but it's going to, you could build a coal plant, but it's going to bankrupt you.
01:26:23.000 It looks to me like what he's trying to do is bankrupt the country.
01:26:26.000 Either by design or by incompetence, the collateral damage of what Saudi Arabia is doing with the oil prices, they may be aiming that at Putin, or they may be aiming it at domestic competition from oil shale.
01:26:41.000 But either way, it is very destructive of our country's wealth, and it's something that our closest ally, Saudi Arabia, that we supposedly are protecting, is doing against us, not just against the Russians.
01:26:57.000 You've nailed it.
01:26:58.000 I'm really enjoying the show because as a host, as an interviewer, you're really hitting all of the key subjects here.
01:27:04.000 And I do hundreds of these interviews a year.
01:27:07.000 And it's very rare that someone actually understands this to depth you do.
01:27:11.000 And what's really critical here is exactly as you stated, I see OPEC with Russia and the U.S.
01:27:16.000 production in a three-way war.
01:27:18.000 It's about market share.
01:27:20.000 And what's critical to the petrodollar, U.S.
01:27:22.000 went from the largest customer To OPEC and Saudi Arabia to now a major competitor to Saudi Arabia and Qatar and UAE where NGLs, natural gas liquids and condensates are now competing for Qatar and Saudi market share.
01:27:38.000 At the same time, the Russians are also competing with it.
01:27:40.000 And ironically, what's going to happen is the side effect U.S.
01:27:44.000 shale production cannot compete with Russian production or Saudi or the OPEC Gulf, the Arab states' production.
01:27:51.000 So you're going to see an implosion within the U.S.
01:27:54.000 corporate oil producers because of the debt level.
01:27:57.000 And it's going to hurt because where have all the big high-paying jobs in Obama's administration happened?
01:28:01.000 It didn't happen in his green bubble revolution, which has completely popped and failed.
01:28:06.000 It's happened in the Bakken, where it's the lowest employment rates in America.
01:28:09.000 It's happened in the Eagleford.
01:28:11.000 It's the American energy revolution that has caused these high-paying jobs.
01:28:15.000 And these high-paying jobs are at risk.
01:28:17.000 And of course, Maren, I just read yesterday on the news here, there was an article from The Telegraph in the UK talking about, well, this falling oil price is going to be good for us in the short term as consumers at the gas pump, but you know, we're going to have to keep level or maybe even increase rates to consumers for heating their homes because we're going to have to subsidize our renewable resources.
01:28:41.000 So they're not even going to pass along a temporary savings because we know this is temporary.
01:28:45.000 Saudi Arabia or OPEC reestablishes their hegemony in energy prices, you're going to see it skyrocket again.
01:28:51.000 That's always the game for the big guys to take a loss.
01:28:55.000 They can hold on and take a loss for a while until they drive out their upcoming competitors.
01:29:00.000 And then once they do, Katie, bar the door.
01:29:02.000 They're going to hit us really hard.
01:29:04.000 Exactly.
01:29:05.000 And Germany's even in a worse situation than the UK.
01:29:07.000 Look at Germany.
01:29:08.000 A lot of people don't realize that in the last decade they've actually increased their oil imports from the former USSR by over 52%.
01:29:15.000 You look at their gas imports.
01:29:18.000 Germany needs the Russian oil and gas to keep its economy going, and Germany's the economic engine of Europe.
01:29:25.000 So Europe is so vulnerable here.
01:29:28.000 Well, you know, one of the things that we'll talk about, we're running out of time for this segment, we've got to go to a break, and we're going to come back and talk about Putin, because one of the things I liked about your book is it isn't a hagiography, and it isn't a cartoon demon characterization of Putin.
01:29:42.000 You show how he's dangerous, how he's competitive, how his interests do not lie, but compete with ours in many ways.
01:29:49.000 I want to talk about that, and I want to talk about the pet Petrodollar.
01:29:52.000 You've got a chapter on post-petrodollar.
01:29:54.000 We'll talk about that after we come back with Marin Katusa.
01:29:57.000 The book is The Colder War.
01:29:58.000 Stay with us.
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01:33:26.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
01:33:27.000 I'm David Knight, your host today.
01:33:28.000 I have Mayor Katusa on the line and we're talking about his book, The Colder War.
01:33:34.000 A fascinating book that really gives you a background as to what's happening with this developing Cold War that is right now in a full-on economic war.
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01:34:37.000 But before we get to that, I wanted to get your comments as a fund manager about what's going on.
01:34:42.000 I just saw a notice that ComEx is going to implement gold and silver price limit collars.
01:34:48.000 Effective on the 21st, they're going to limit price fluctuations, will kick in at $100 moves in gold and $3 moves in silver.
01:34:58.000 What are they concerned about?
01:35:00.000 Looks like the Russian currency is crumbling.
01:35:03.000 We've got derivatives and oil that are coming in.
01:35:05.000 It looks like a very unstable time, doesn't it?
01:35:08.000 It really is, and as an investor, whether you're a fund manager or even at a retail level, for all the mom-pops out there, what you have to understand is it's not true capitalism, as Bud Conrad, an economist at Casey Research, says.
01:35:20.000 It's about interventions and understanding what's going on.
01:35:24.000 So if you look at Obama's administration, I would sum it up as he has increased the debt of the American government by over 50% under his watch, and he's made the worst decisions.
01:35:33.000 So I call it financial heroin.
01:35:36.000 He's made the system addicted to finance.
01:35:39.000 And the worst thing for your viewers to have is going into the next evolution and sector of this Cold War is to be exposed to the debt.
01:35:50.000 Because look what the Russians are going through right now.
01:35:52.000 If your interest rates go up and you're exposed to margin calls or increased volatility, be very careful.
01:35:59.000 And that's why the derivatives, when you mentioned them earlier, are so critical.
01:36:02.000 Because as the petrodollar does collapse, and it will, Then you get the derivatives kicking, and who's going to control this?
01:36:09.000 We're talking about quadrillions of dollars, numbers that people can't even fathom.
01:36:13.000 We're in uncharted territory here.
01:36:15.000 And we're already seeing oil derivatives coming under a lot of pressure.
01:36:19.000 Many of them are already worthless.
01:36:21.000 People are scrambling to cover that.
01:36:23.000 I mean, it's just the coming tidal wave of economic problems, to me, is just, it's very apparent.
01:36:31.000 All these forces that are building up at the end of the year right now.
01:36:34.000 Very, very worrying.
01:36:35.000 Let's talk for a moment about Vladimir Putin before we talk about the consequences.
01:36:39.000 You've got a chapter in your book called Post-Petrodollar.
01:36:43.000 I want to talk about the consequences of what happens when we lose the petrodollar here in America.
01:36:47.000 But let's talk about Putin.
01:36:49.000 Talk about his rise to power.
01:36:50.000 What makes this guy tick?
01:36:52.000 Well, it's not money.
01:36:54.000 You know, when you look at a lot of politicians, he's the exact opposite of Obama.
01:36:58.000 What Putin truly believes is his mission on Earth is to bring Russia back to its previous greatness under Peter the Great.
01:37:06.000 You know, a good ideology of him is when he came into power, you know, he was the head of basically what we call the old KGB.
01:37:14.000 This guy is a Soviet trained, he's brilliant, but he's driven by national pride.
01:37:23.000 Let me give an anecdote from your book.
01:37:26.000 You pointed out that his grandfather, who essentially mentored him, was somebody who was a cook for Lenin and then Stalin.
01:37:32.000 He managed to survive the purges and there were even rumors that he was with the NKVD.
01:37:37.000 This is a guy that had a lot of influence on him at an early age.
01:37:41.000 He, Putin, went to the KGB and wanted to know what he could do.
01:37:45.000 And you report in his book that they told him, well, the best thing you could do if you want to get in the KGB is get a law degree.
01:37:51.000 And they came looking for him when he went to law school and recruited him at the age of 22.
01:37:55.000 This is a guy who wanted, he was...
01:37:58.000 Caught up in the James Bond type of espionage stuff.
01:38:02.000 They had their own version of it in Russia.
01:38:04.000 He was caught up in that.
01:38:05.000 He got very interested in martial arts.
01:38:06.000 Wanted to be a KGB person.
01:38:08.000 He's got a much different, longer term point of view than Obama, doesn't he?
01:38:13.000 He's working with the Chinese who plan 20, 30 year cycles.
01:38:18.000 Obama plans according to his Twitter account, which is by seconds.
01:38:21.000 So you can't compare the two, but more importantly, what this is all doing and the real threat here in the Cold War is the emerging markets are now working closer together than ever before.
01:38:32.000 And the Western markets, you know, the old allies of the U.S.
01:38:35.000 are trying to sit here going, well, we can't do what the Americans want anymore.
01:38:38.000 For example, Germany was really being pushed by the American sanctions onto Russia, but now Germany's painted in a corner.
01:38:45.000 So really, Obama's isolated his allies, and more importantly, has pushed his enemies closer together.
01:38:52.000 You point out that as we enact these trade sanctions, we're essentially throwing fire on the de-dollarization in terms of removing the dollar as reserve currency.
01:39:03.000 Explain that.
01:39:05.000 Sanctions are just another form of war.
01:39:07.000 Everyone's going to lose in a sanction.
01:39:09.000 And, you know, it's sad that it's got to go that way because there's so many better alternatives.
01:39:14.000 But the sanctions are going to come.
01:39:17.000 Back and they've already backfired on the German economy.
01:39:19.000 It's starting to backfire on other European economies.
01:39:21.000 And remember, winter's coming and Eastern Europe and Western Europe depends about a third of its natural gas on Russia.
01:39:28.000 Russia's not down and out.
01:39:29.000 Never underestimate the Russians.
01:39:31.000 They have survived things that most people can't even fathom.
01:39:33.000 And Obama is underestimating.
01:39:35.000 You know, remember when in the debate with Romney, when Romney said Russia is our greatest threat and Obama laughed and said, what are you talking about?
01:39:43.000 The Cold War ended 20 years ago.
01:39:45.000 Obama's completely Yeah, absolutely.
01:39:49.000 And so is the American public, too.
01:39:51.000 They don't remember, as you point out in your book, you said at one time Ukraine was Russia.
01:39:57.000 At the beginning of the interview you pointed out that it looks like Putin is going to move nuclear weapons into Crimea.
01:40:03.000 They're not about to let Crimea go, are they?
01:40:05.000 No, definitely.
01:40:06.000 There's four key critical elements that is about Crimea.
01:40:10.000 First of all, over 90% of the people are Russian and Russian-speaking.
01:40:13.000 So if you understand Putin's strategy, what I call the Slavic warrior mentality, he's not going to let any Russian be suppressed or be threatened.
01:40:21.000 More importantly, it's about the gas pipeline.
01:40:24.000 Second, the offshore oil and gas deposits.
01:40:26.000 It's a deep sea warm port, which is very important for Russia's military.
01:40:30.000 And then fourth, the key critical part that no media is talking about is if Crimea stayed in even Ukraine or eastern Ukraine, Ukraine could now import U.S. and European goods and trade them to the former USSR states at a tax advantage that the Russians couldn't.
01:40:47.000 So it's also a threat to the U.S. manufacturing strategy, and Putin won't have any of it.
01:40:51.000 And they will defend Crimea as they will defend Moscow.
01:40:55.000 You point out in your book, you go back to the Rose Revolution in Georgia, talking about how at that time South Ossetia and another territory tried to secede from Georgia.
01:41:07.000 And, of course, at that point in time, we were against self-rule and self-government, just as we've seen with the Ukraine situation.
01:41:14.000 You know, we are for Ukraine seceding from the Soviet, well, from Russia.
01:41:20.000 And then we oppose Crimea seceding from the Ukraine.
01:41:24.000 I mean, there's absolutely, I cannot make Make a coherent argument for this.
01:41:29.000 It's just naked power politics that they're playing here with the energy that's going on here.
01:41:36.000 Draw some parallels between the Rose Revolution and what we have just seen in the Ukraine with the Maiden Revolution.
01:41:43.000 Sure, so the Rose was first and it was really funded by the NGOs, American money, Western money coming in and it was the beginning but at the time Putin didn't yet solidify, he didn't take on the oligarchs yet at the time, he didn't control the domestic Russian oil and gas and resources.
01:41:58.000 So he kind of stayed put and let things develop.
01:42:01.000 Then we had the Orange Revolution in Ukraine and that was Big.
01:42:05.000 That was very important.
01:42:06.000 That really showed a shift.
01:42:07.000 And now the main revolution is really the EU versus Russia and the EU is backed by America.
01:42:13.000 And it's really the American incentive to fight the Russian foreign politics here.
01:42:18.000 It's a retaliation that most people in the West did not expect because they thought Putin would back down.
01:42:23.000 That is not the situation.
01:42:24.000 And if you want to compare it to, let's say, the former Yugoslav Republic of Kosovo, You know, where America defended Kosovo is exactly what Russia is now doing for their side.
01:42:34.000 So, you know, we've been seeing flip-flop politics and there's a lot of flags of awareness and failed foreign policy on the Western sides.
01:42:43.000 And remember, Putin's going to do exactly what's best for Russia's long-term strategy.
01:42:47.000 If it means going to economic war or physical war or supplying weapons or moving the nuclear weapons into Crimea, Putin won't think twice about it.
01:42:56.000 Absolutely.
01:42:57.000 He's got a long-term plan, and part of that long-term plan includes moving into the Arctic, doesn't it?
01:43:04.000 That's where the world-class deposits are.
01:43:04.000 Oh, definitely.
01:43:07.000 And it's ironic that even though there were sanctions against Russia from the US, Exxon, America's largest oil producer, was still moving forward and doing the offshore development.
01:43:17.000 And they didn't pull out.
01:43:18.000 They got an exception to complete that well because according to the terms of the contract, if Exxon backed out, they would lose billions of barrels of oil.
01:43:26.000 So it's in Exxon's best interest to work with Russia.
01:43:29.000 Exxon wants to work with Russia.
01:43:32.000 It's all about the future world class deposits.
01:43:35.000 And you know, Exxon and other major American oil companies have realized that the political instability in the Middle East where other world class oil deposits not worth the risk.
01:43:45.000 So there's not many places around the world that you can get billions of barrels of deposits.
01:43:50.000 And Russia's definitely one of the most important countries for oil, natural gas and uranium.
01:43:56.000 You point out in your book that in the Arctic there's estimated to be 200 billion barrels, over 10% of the world's total.
01:44:05.000 And you also point out that there's a lot of different competing claims.
01:44:07.000 Canada's got claims there, U.S., Norway, even Denmark.
01:44:10.000 Just this last couple of days, Denmark made a claim that they own the North Pole.
01:44:16.000 I guess we should let Santa Claus know.
01:44:18.000 Exactly.
01:44:20.000 You know, who would you want to back on that?
01:44:23.000 Russia with Putin or Canada with Harvard?
01:44:26.000 Yeah, I think if a push comes to shove, and it probably will, I think Russia's going to go there.
01:44:31.000 But you make another point here that I wasn't aware of.
01:44:33.000 After 13 years of wrangling, the UN's Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf awarded Russia jurisdiction over a 20,000 square mile area in the Sea of Akhosh, I guess is how you pronounce that.
01:44:44.000 But basically, they've already had the UN side with their territorial claims.
01:44:49.000 Oh definitely and more importantly what no one's realizing is Russia is the world's largest country from just a landmass and they haven't even started their unconventional oil and gas development.
01:45:00.000 They're just going for the easy conventional stuff.
01:45:02.000 So Russia is so powerful and the emerging markets have realized that with Russia it's about business.
01:45:08.000 There's no political agenda.
01:45:09.000 There's no moral religious agenda.
01:45:11.000 The Russians want to do business with China, and that's the deal, and now they're pushed together.
01:45:15.000 Dealing with the Americans, look, Germany's realized the spying events that's happened under Obama's administration, the Chinese have realized it, and you know, unfortunately, all of this has come to fruition, and the failed foreign policy has proven to be worse than we all expected it would be.
01:45:31.000 So, America, unfortunately, has painted itself in a corner, and really, it's going to need another leader like a Reagan type, someone to get Americans behind their leader to take on the emerging markets, which have very strong leadership led by Putin.
01:45:45.000 I think it's going to require somebody who is going to repudiate our surveillance state, the idea that we have a hegemonic claim on everybody's information.
01:45:56.000 I think that has left a stitch on the American government that is not going to be erased until we do something very visible, very tangible to pull that back out.
01:46:06.000 I want to talk about another area and that of course is Africa.
01:46:10.000 And we saw the Bilderberg Group a couple years ago talking about how their big pushes were going to be big data.
01:46:15.000 That was before we saw the Ed Snowden leaks.
01:46:17.000 And also Africa.
01:46:19.000 We see AFRICOM being created as recently as 2007.
01:46:24.000 So the U.S.
01:46:25.000 is definitely interested in the natural resources of Africa.
01:46:27.000 But of course, Putin, who bases all of his plans on natural resources, is very interested in Africa.
01:46:35.000 Talk about that.
01:46:37.000 Oh, definitely.
01:46:38.000 It ends with the Chinese.
01:46:39.000 The Russian and Chinese are working together and they are literally two decades ahead of America when it comes to the infrastructure, the deposits.
01:46:46.000 The largest onshore oil discovery in the world in the last decades was a company Doug Casey and I were involved with and they proved up, you know, billions of barrels of oil on Eastern Africa and Kenya.
01:46:57.000 It's called the East African Rift.
01:46:59.000 And ironically, when you go there, It literally looked like a pic out of a James Bond movie where they're all wearing their orange overalls and they're happy to work and they're all Asians.
01:47:08.000 You don't see North American companies working there.
01:47:10.000 It's all Russian and Chinese drillers, Russian and Chinese geophysics.
01:47:15.000 You know, China's been there.
01:47:17.000 They're going to write the infrastructure checks.
01:47:20.000 They're moving forward for the development because it's about a secure supply and the Russians and Chinese are planning for 20, 30, 40 years out to keep their economies going.
01:47:28.000 Oh, absolutely, and of course we had Obama go and make his agreement with China that we were going to, over 11 years, cut our energy use by 25%, but China's going to be allowed to continue to expand for 16 years unabated, at which point they won't have a cut, but they'll have a cap.
01:47:44.000 It's okay for them under, I guess, we're not concerned about global warming, it's only a concern when it is something that is generated by the U.S.
01:47:52.000 or Western governments.
01:47:54.000 You know, it's ironic.
01:47:55.000 You bring up a brilliant point here that reminded me.
01:47:58.000 During the APEC conference, Obama made a big deal about the CO2 contracts and the limitations.
01:48:03.000 And in our Western media, they really try to portray Obama as a true foreign icon with his presidency.
01:48:10.000 If you read the Chinese papers, it was almost a mockery where Xi Jinping, the president of China, came out and said, look, Obama, calm down, tiger.
01:48:19.000 You fill a sea by drops at a time.
01:48:21.000 We're still in drops here.
01:48:23.000 Take your time.
01:48:23.000 Let's not make a big deal out of this contract.
01:48:26.000 But from the Western media, the APEC conference was all about this agreement where the Chinese kind of completely thought nothing of it.
01:48:34.000 I guess that's one of the things that really strikes me about your book, Marin, and that is the fact that Putin is very methodical, taking a long view, not only just for himself, but also for his country.
01:48:44.000 He's actually doing things to help Russia.
01:48:46.000 It's not in America's best interest, the things that he's doing, but he's actually working to help his country.
01:48:51.000 We have leaders who look to be actively undermining, actively trying to bankrupt our country, whether it's with open borders and a Cloward and Piven strategy, or whether it's taking down our energy production or taxing away our energy use.
01:49:06.000 It seems like our own government is our worst enemy.
01:49:10.000 But let's talk about one of your final chapters, I think it is your final chapter here, Post-Petrodollar America.
01:49:16.000 You point out that the decline of the British pound took 30 years and two world wars, and to unwind the empire took longer.
01:49:24.000 Is that going to happen with the United States?
01:49:26.000 Or maybe, as you think, there's going to be factors that argue that the undoing of the dollar will be very abrupt and very disturbing.
01:49:33.000 Tell us how you think that's going to play out, and why you think that's going to be abrupt and massive.
01:49:39.000 It's going to be very disturbing for those who are not prepared and protected.
01:49:43.000 You need insurance, whether you have health insurance or car insurance.
01:49:46.000 You never plan on using it, but when you need it, that's when you want it.
01:49:49.000 And it's all about preparing and basically preventing being exposed to the derivative defaults, the collapse of the petrodollar.
01:49:57.000 And it's actually quite simple to do so.
01:49:59.000 Number one, live within your means and stay out of massive debt and don't leverage yourself.
01:50:03.000 Number two, have a little bit of gold exposure, physical gold, because that is an insurance hedge to a depreciating dollar.
01:50:10.000 Now, everyone on Wall Street is talking about how great the U.S. dollar is.
01:50:13.000 That's exactly when you need insurance, when you're driving 200 kilometers or 150 miles per hour with your top down, thinking of what rate of the day.
01:50:20.000 You know, you need to have that insurance.
01:50:22.000 So that's the first place to start.
01:50:24.000 And then we get into different aspects.
01:50:26.000 But, you know, when the petrodollar collapses, and it will, and every empire collapses, literally the average way of life for the American is going to be cut in half overnight.
01:50:35.000 And everyone's going to sit there and going, what happened?
01:50:38.000 Except those who are prepared for it.
01:50:40.000 And as you point out, we have the world's largest military.
01:50:43.000 We've taken a hit in most other aspects of our productivity.
01:50:48.000 We had our manufacturing base decimated.
01:50:51.000 Yet we have a massive military.
01:50:54.000 And of course, when people see their lifestyle cut in half, as you just mentioned, they're going to look for an enemy outside of the country.
01:51:01.000 And that's when things are going to get hot.
01:51:03.000 Stay with us.
01:51:04.000 We've got one more segment with Marin, and he'll be right back with his book, The Colder War.
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01:54:06.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
01:54:21.000 I'm David Knight and we're talking to Marin Katusa of Casey Research and his book, The Colder War.
01:54:27.000 I would highly recommend this book.
01:54:28.000 It's a very interesting read.
01:54:31.000 Any student of history or politics, anybody who wants to get an understanding of what I think are Are things that are on the horizon.
01:54:38.000 We've seen a lot of very ominous signs.
01:54:40.000 We've seen Russia's central bank hiking key interest rates in just the last day or so to 17%.
01:54:44.000 That's their interest rate.
01:54:47.000 They've seen their currency tumble by 20%.
01:54:49.000 We see Goldman Sachs, this is a headline up on Infowars.com, Goldman Sachs says oil prices can go lower for much longer.
01:54:57.000 And that the oil prices reveal cracks in our economy.
01:55:00.000 Of course, even though we see cheap oil, we're not seeing the economy responding to this.
01:55:06.000 It's still laying there, not doing anything.
01:55:09.000 But the Saudis are going to keep producing, and that is something that is aimed directly at American production and independence of oil.
01:55:16.000 It also is something that is hurting Russia.
01:55:20.000 And of course, Vladimir Putin is determined to use his alliances to destroy The Petrodollar are essentially our reserve currency.
01:55:30.000 Now one of the things that you have here in your post Petrodollar chapter here, Marin, is called the bomb in your basement.
01:55:38.000 We talked at the beginning of the hour, we talked about how Putin rose to power with false flags, bombs being placed in apartment buildings and taking out the entire apartment buildings.
01:55:50.000 But this is a bomb that is in the basement of everybody here.
01:55:54.000 You mentioned some things that people can do individually to prepare, but the derivatives that we are now on the hook just a week or so ago when they came up with this budget from Boehner and the Democrats, putting Americans on the hook to ensure the derivatives that the banks have set up.
01:56:10.000 Talk about the scope of that and what can happen as that blows up.
01:56:14.000 It is so risky.
01:56:15.000 I'm shocked that the media hasn't talked more about this.
01:56:19.000 This individual piece of legislation is essentially the world's strongest economic weapon of mass destruction that has been created ever.
01:56:29.000 The risks across the board to your pension funds, to the government from the state to federal level, this truly is a shocking element.
01:56:37.000 And yet, who does the government put the blame on?
01:56:39.000 On the working class citizen who's going to have to write unlimited checks.
01:56:42.000 Who's regulating these derivative markets?
01:56:44.000 People don't even understand.
01:56:45.000 I used to teach calculus in a university.
01:56:47.000 These derivative markets are so complex that my colleagues who are PhDs in calculus don't understand this stuff.
01:56:53.000 It's a bunch of maverick bankers who have the Washington It's very annoying because they're not producing anything.
01:57:05.000 They're basically shutting down in a war on people who actually produce manufactured goods, people who produce energy.
01:57:12.000 Those are the bad guys.
01:57:14.000 And yet the guys who come up with these artificial constructs, as you said, these complex derivatives, that are not tied to anything, they're not producing anything that anyone can use, it's merely a scam from these large banks.
01:57:26.000 They're the ones who are now going to get protection, and we saw at the same time that they moved the derivatives to get FDIC protection.
01:57:34.000 They also started making some moves to say that they can come after pensions and the commitments that have been made by private corporations to their employees for a long period of time.
01:57:43.000 The handwriting is on the wall.
01:57:45.000 They're coming after the entire enchilada.
01:57:47.000 They're coming after the wealth of individual Americans as well as our energy independence, aren't they?
01:57:53.000 Well, you know, Obama's not just at war with the savers and workers of America.
01:57:58.000 He's doing more for the foreigners, like Putin.
01:58:01.000 Putin couldn't have a better ally running America, and they're at war together.
01:58:04.000 So, Obama's doing everything wrong for the average working class, hardworking American.
01:58:10.000 And this is going to come back, and it's ironic that, you know, Obama's all about, you know, the average American.
01:58:16.000 Well, he's going to need more than hope for this.
01:58:18.000 This is going to be a true disaster.
01:58:20.000 Wow.
01:58:21.000 Thank you so much for joining us.
01:58:22.000 It is an excellent book.
01:58:24.000 It is a real page turner.
01:58:25.000 Guys, you can get a clip of all the different tabs that I've put in here.
01:58:28.000 I wish I had time to cover everything that we have.
01:58:32.000 You can see all those different tabs.
01:58:34.000 I wish I had time to cover all the information that's in here.
01:58:36.000 Get this book.
01:58:37.000 It will really enhance your understanding of the background behind this.
01:58:37.000 Read it.
01:58:41.000 Thank you so much.
01:58:42.000 Maren Katusa, The Colder War, available from Casey Research.
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02:00:27.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:00:34.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
02:00:35.000 I'm David Knight, your host today.
02:00:37.000 Very interesting interview with Maren Katusa.
02:00:39.000 The book, again, is The Colder War.
02:00:42.000 You need to get that to get a background as to what's going on.
02:00:45.000 There's all kinds of ominous signs we see in the financial markets as well as the legislation that was passed as part of the Boehner budget betrayal, I should call it.
02:01:00.000 We're going to take your calls at 800-259-9231 if you have any comments about that.
02:01:05.000 I also wanted to go over some of the news that's been happening.
02:01:09.000 We've got a couple of big trials, one that's not going to happen, another one that we are going to have A verdict coming out soon.
02:01:19.000 We have reported from antiwar.com that the US Army today has announced that it is going to cancel a two-day pretrial hearing at Guantanamo Bay that's related to the FBI infiltration of defense teams for detainees.
02:01:33.000 They provided no reason for the cancellation.
02:01:36.000 Now the interesting thing about this is that we learned that the FBI had infiltrated the defense teams of five different detainees and what they were doing was collecting intelligence and essentially spying on the defense teams.
02:01:52.000 Spies inside the defense teams reporting back presumably to the prosecution as to how these guys are going to defend their clients and they say the new hearing was supposed to explore what other efforts the FBI had launched but it seems now that that's not going to happen.
02:02:10.000 And we also have a report up on Infowars.com.
02:02:13.000 Political prisoner Barrett Brown to be sentenced tomorrow and this is why the results matter to freedom in America.
02:02:20.000 You need to read this article.
02:02:22.000 It's from Liberty Blitzkrieg and he points out The Feds went after Barrett Brown in the same way they went after Aaron Schwartz.
02:02:29.000 That, they say, led to the suicide of the latter.
02:02:32.000 I'm not so sure that it was a suicide.
02:02:34.000 We see this always being called suicide.
02:02:37.000 Nevertheless, they came out with a bunch of trumped-up charges, they say, including that of copying and pasting a link.
02:02:42.000 There you go.
02:02:43.000 See, it's a crime to even link to something, and that was the key thing.
02:02:48.000 They say that charge was later dropped, but they're still threatening him with 105 years in jail.
02:02:53.000 He's now served over two years in a federal penitentiary without bail, and his sentencing is tomorrow.
02:03:00.000 He still faces 10 years in jail for exposing the shady relationship Between intelligence contractors and the US government.
02:03:08.000 That's how bad things have gotten.
02:03:11.000 And they point out here, they said, all of this makes sense only if you understand what Barrett Brown did.
02:03:16.000 He spent the beginning of 2011 advocating for the effectiveness of anonymous as a force that could bring transparency to institutions and to government through digital protests.
02:03:27.000 But that's the last thing we want in America, isn't it?
02:03:31.000 Transparency.
02:03:32.000 We don't get transparency even from our local government officials.
02:03:37.000 They're all acting as if they're part of the CIA.
02:03:40.000 As if they're all James Bond.
02:03:42.000 And you know they also think they've got a license to kill.
02:03:44.000 That's exactly what the mother of the 12-year-old who was murdered by the cops as he was holding a BB gun.
02:03:50.000 And you can see the video footage.
02:03:52.000 He doesn't give him a chance.
02:03:54.000 He's not doing anything threatening to anyone.
02:03:56.000 He pulls up, jumps, the cop pulls up and jumps out of the car and shoots the kid down.
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02:10:22.000 Eric in Germany, you want to talk about Hollywood on Russia.
02:10:25.000 Go ahead.
02:10:26.000 Yeah, absolutely.
02:10:27.000 Hey, David.
02:10:29.000 We all know that Hollywood has Many, many examples of foreshadowing events that have in turn happened.
02:10:34.000 For example, the X-Files and 9-11.
02:10:35.000 And the past weekend I was watching an old movie.
02:10:39.000 It's not old, it's from last year.
02:10:41.000 It wasn't big, but it was Jack Ryan's Shadow Recruit, and there's a speech in it.
02:10:46.000 And if you were to YouTube, Jack Ryan, Zero Hedge.
02:10:49.000 It's the first thing that comes up.
02:10:51.000 I put it on Zero Hedge.
02:10:53.000 A couple days ago.
02:10:54.000 This will send chills up your spine.
02:10:58.000 It is the creepiest thing because you know whoever wrote this movie, they had some creative arts degree from Berkeley.
02:11:05.000 You know, they don't understand the foreign exchange market.
02:11:09.000 They don't understand how to use currencies as a weapon.
02:11:11.000 When you listen to the speech, for people who know how foreign exchange works, it's the creepiest thing because it's How to destroy the American financial system.
02:11:21.000 And I'm not saying the Russians would do this to us, because the Russians, they have enough problems of their own.
02:11:26.000 They don't need to start a war with the states, but we all know that our banker oligarchs have to start a war with someone so they can distract the population from the coming bail-in, the collapse of the dollar, the collapse of the stock market, which is going to wipe out everyone's pensions.
02:11:43.000 I'll get off the phone and let you respond.
02:11:45.000 Maybe you can take a look at the video over the next break and I can give us a while we got listeners on the phone.
02:11:51.000 Give us a gist of what they do.
02:11:53.000 If you can summarize it very quickly to take down the US system.
02:11:58.000 The gist of the speech is that there will be a terrorist attack on the United States and thereafter there's a terrorist attack.
02:11:58.000 Sure.
02:12:06.000 All the foreign exchange reserves held by Russia in United States treasuries are dumped into the open market.
02:12:13.000 So, for those people who don't know how the secondary bond market works, when the American government borrows money, it sells a T-bill.
02:12:20.000 And this T-bill, it doesn't just stay in someone's pocket, it's like stocks, you can buy and sell them.
02:12:24.000 So when there's a ton of these T-bills available, the price goes down, which means the interest rate on that note goes up.
02:12:31.000 So Russia right now holds well over a hundred billion dollars worth of American T-bills.
02:12:36.000 Now one thing that's interesting is earlier this year Belgium, a country that's very small, started purchasing hundreds of billions of dollars worth of American federal debt within a very very short window.
02:12:49.000 Most speculation is that it was the Russians purchasing this debt.
02:12:51.000 So let's say, hypothetically, that the Belgian purchasers plus the official Russian sovereign holdings of T-bills The Russians have two to three hundred billion dollars in American debt.
02:13:03.000 That would put them number four behind China, Japan, and the Treasury, and the Federal Reserve.
02:13:08.000 If we were to have a terrorist attack, we all remember what happened the day when the market opened after 9-11, it went down 600 points.
02:13:16.000 If we were to have a terrorist attack, and the next day, or later that day, Russia liquidates all of their Federal Reserves, It would be the end of the petrodollars.
02:13:26.000 We know it.
02:13:27.000 We know that Putin wants to take down the dollar as the world's reserve currency.
02:13:30.000 He's working on a swift alternative.
02:13:33.000 He is doing currency swaps.
02:13:35.000 He's got currency swaps going with New Zealand, Australia, India, China, Brazil, and South Africa right now.
02:13:42.000 He's trying to create another system that runs parallel to the dollar.
02:13:47.000 You can Google this.
02:13:48.000 CNN, Fox, Bloomberg.
02:13:51.000 It's very, very well documented, and the idea behind this movie and behind this speech is that there's a terrorist attack, they liquidate, Russia liquidates the reserves.
02:14:02.000 When the market, the Treasury Bill market, is overwhelmed with supply, the interest rate on American debt will go up.
02:14:09.000 Now, right now, the American government's paying about 2.5% to 3% to borrow money for 10 years.
02:14:13.000 3% to borrow money for 10 years.
02:14:15.000 A 100-year average is 5% to 7%.
02:14:18.000 So, right now, just to service the outstanding debt, the American federal debt, it's about 11% of the annual budget, or about $300 billion per year just interest on our debt.
02:14:32.000 But this is with interest rates right now at all-time lows, 100-year lows.
02:14:38.000 What happens when this interest rate goes back to the 100-year average?
02:14:43.000 It's not, let's not say five, seven, ten, let's just say four percent.
02:14:47.000 A lot of people think, oh well, we pay two and a half, you go to four, it's not that big of a deal.
02:14:51.000 You know, it's a percentage and a half, we can afford that.
02:14:54.000 But the bond market and the way the government is able to fund itself, it doesn't work this way.
02:14:58.000 Because we're paying two and a half percent right now, on a ten year note.
02:15:02.000 And it's eleven percent of the budget.
02:15:04.000 Well you know, what's really amazing is, it's almost like, as I pointed out in the interview, it's like we've got economic warfare and it's like Bombing each other's cities.
02:15:14.000 I mean, I'm looking at this article from Russia.
02:15:16.000 They're facing some of the same stuff you're talking about that's already hitting them.
02:15:19.000 They're seeing their interest rates jump up to 17% and they point out in this article from RT that the interest rate hike is the sharpest since 1998.
02:15:26.000 And then they saw rates higher than 100%.
02:15:31.000 And essentially, Russia defaulted on their debt in 1998.
02:15:35.000 I mean, this is massive economic warfare that is unfolding right before our eyes.
02:15:40.000 Both of them are going at it, Russia as well as our side.
02:15:46.000 And I guess the bad thing, Eric, is that I get the sense that we're under friendly fire as well from the Federal Reserve, aren't we?
02:15:53.000 Well, absolutely.
02:15:54.000 The Federal Reserve right now, they have interest rates at zero.
02:15:58.000 Inflation, according to the CPI, we all know the CPI is cooked.
02:16:01.000 Inflation is sitting at a mere 2% roughly.
02:16:05.000 But if you look like the Walmart inflation index, which measures the cost of things like food that isn't included in the CPI, it's closer to 4 or 5%.
02:16:13.000 So your money sits in your bank account earning nothing.
02:16:17.000 Yeah.
02:16:17.000 But you're losing 5% of your spending power every year.
02:16:20.000 You're just getting hammered.
02:16:22.000 What's interesting with this foray with Russia right now is That Putin, I don't think has returned fire yet.
02:16:30.000 He's kind of taken the first assault, if we've seen the movie Kingdom of Heaven with Orlando Bloom, there was that first assault, and they wait.
02:16:38.000 And they wait, and we all have seen Hunt for the Red October.
02:16:45.000 Yeah, he's got a plan, he's got a long-term plan, and he's kind of like the honey badger.
02:16:51.000 I mean, God just keeps going.
02:16:55.000 So we're playing checkers and he's playing chess, but like I said before, the really scary thing to me is the fact that we are also under friendly fire from our own president, from the Federal Reserve, which is allied against us, and of course from the CIA's proxy, the Saudis, who are essentially attacking our own American energy independence.
02:17:14.000 Thank you so much, Eric.
02:17:14.000 That was very informative.
02:17:16.000 Let's go to Jeremy in Colorado.
02:17:18.000 Jeremy.
02:17:21.000 Hi, Dave.
02:17:22.000 I'm actually glad I got to talk to you, because if I remember right, you have an engineering background.
02:17:28.000 I wanted to talk about Well, energy independence, and in this case, particularly water-fuel conversions.
02:17:36.000 I know it's come up in these kinds of circles a lot, HHL, grounds, gas, and such, but I wanted to mention a A video, if you type in on YouTube, Revelation of Truth 10.
02:17:48.000 Revelation of Truth 1-0.
02:17:49.000 It has to be done specifically like that, or else the results will get buried in a bunch of Bible-related material.
02:17:55.000 But it talks, it's all a source video pertaining to Stanley Meyer's work and the stuff he pioneered.
02:18:02.000 And I came across some other material that actually, I guess, makes it more practical and easier to understand at educate-yourself.org.
02:18:12.000 The reason I'm bringing this up is because, you know, with the instability in the, you know, global oil markets and energy independence and all the, you know, the impending disaster scenario, this is not one of those topics that can be, that we can afford to say, oh, it might be able to be, we might be able to do it, might be able to, I don't know, speculate and debate on it.
02:18:34.000 It's one of those things that I mean, as far as just getting up from underneath the thumb of, I guess, the oil cartel, so to Yeah, one of the things that was interesting about The Colder War, the book that we just talked to the author in the last hour about, was of course the rise of oil as an energy source.
02:18:55.000 And of course, along with it, the rise of John D. Rockefeller.
02:18:58.000 He pointed out that he had a fortune that in today's dollars would be about $340 billion, saying that he was, as far as we can reliably ascertain, The richest man ever in history.
02:19:09.000 He pointed out that back in the 1300s there was a guy who owned half of the world's gold and half of the world's salt, which of course salt was a very expensive commodity at that time back in the 1300s.
02:19:21.000 Presumably he might have been wealthier, but you know you can't really correlate going back that far.
02:19:26.000 But certainly if you look at John D. Rockefeller, he was very powerful.
02:19:30.000 And so what we have here There's a lot of very powerful vested interests.
02:19:35.000 We have the largest producers of oil in the world, and not the private companies as he points out, but the national governments like Saudi Arabia.
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02:19:50.000 There's a lot that's there to shut people down.
02:19:52.000 Just look at what's happening to the oil shale business.
02:19:54.000 I mean, even something that is kind of a side business, look at how Saudi Arabia reacts to domestic production of oil.
02:20:02.000 They quickly drop prices in order to put them out of business.
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02:24:23.000 Before we go back to your calls though, I wanted to point out an article that's up on Infowars.com.
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02:24:33.000 How media pundits are interconnected with the CFR and with each other.
02:24:37.000 Now this is an article that was originally up on RT.
02:24:40.000 Kit Daniels pointed out to me.
02:24:42.000 We posted it up and they have subsequently taken their article down.
02:24:46.000 And I guess the question is, what was it they didn't want you to see?
02:24:49.000 I don't know, but it's more than just a tale of consolidation.
02:24:53.000 I think they put it back up.
02:24:54.000 I was just told they put it back up.
02:24:56.000 It's still a very good article.
02:24:57.000 You should take a look at this, because we've shown many times how consolidated the mainstream media is, being owned by only a half dozen different companies.
02:25:06.000 But this also interconnects it with the CFR, and of course the Council on Foreign Relations has dominated the State Department since its inception in the early 20th century.
02:25:16.000 And even though Reagan was not a member of the CFR, as soon as he got to be president, he put about 360 people, I believe if I'm correct, from the CFR into the State Department.
02:25:29.000 So they dominate our foreign policy, that particular think tank.
02:25:34.000 And there's much to be said about that.
02:25:36.000 We won't go into it, but look at that guide.
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02:25:42.000 Lots of graphs and charts there as well.
02:25:45.000 Let's go back to your calls.
02:25:46.000 Let's go to Eleanor in Missouri.
02:25:48.000 Go ahead.
02:25:50.000 Hi.
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02:25:52.000 Thank you for taking my call.
02:25:55.000 I wanted to just comment on the first guest.
02:25:59.000 I think that, or the first, I'm sorry, the first caller.
02:26:02.000 I think that he was right on.
02:26:05.000 With the false flag thing, but I wanted to ask you, do you think that this whole scheme can wait until the September-October time frame that they're always pulling these?
02:26:17.000 I really don't know.
02:26:18.000 I mean, when you look at all of the signs and the economic signs that are queuing up here, already we've seen a massive upheaval from this manipulation of the price of oil that's going on by Saudi Arabia.
02:26:31.000 And there's a lot of, we've been talking about all the different aspects of that.
02:26:34.000 It's already having a massive effect.
02:26:36.000 on Russia's currency, on their interest rates.
02:26:40.000 We know that it's having a massive effect on oil derivatives in this country.
02:26:44.000 And of course, we are all on the hook for those derivatives now.
02:26:48.000 We were put on the hook by it, by the Boehner budget betrayal, along with the Democrats.
02:26:53.000 They essentially have the American taxpayers underwriting this massive speculation, this gambling by the major banks.
02:27:03.000 That's something that had been taken off with Dodd-Frank and now they put that back in as part of this budget deal.
02:27:10.000 There's a lot that can happen out of this, and of course we also pointed out that they have put effective next Monday, they're going to put limits on the movement of silver and gold.
02:27:21.000 Now, they didn't do that before when silver and gold were plummeting because they were dumping those, but now they're concerned, I think, that people are going to be running for safety when they see currencies collapsing, when they see the derivatives market collapsing.
02:27:33.000 So, I don't really know what's going to be happening, but some very, very ominous signs.
02:27:38.000 What's your take on it, Eleanor?
02:27:41.000 Um, well, I've been looking on the internet and, you know, look in chat rooms and stuff like that and a lot of the people think that in February it'll all fall apart.
02:27:54.000 Well, it's hard to predict the timing, but you know, the simple fact of the matter is, as I pointed out the other day, these banks, with a little bit of lobbying, they spent a few million dollars and they got essentially a quadrillion dollars worth of insurance, depending on how you estimate the total derivatives market.
02:28:10.000 And it's hard for anybody to do that, because it is so incredibly complicated.
02:28:16.000 Nevertheless, it's an astronomical figure, and they were able to get that insured for like $1 per trillion dollars worth of insurance that they get.
02:28:26.000 Now, you can't get that from the bank because they know that you're eventually going to die.
02:28:30.000 We should not be giving that to these bankers with their derivatives because we know that these derivatives are eventually going to blow up.
02:28:37.000 It's just a question of timing as to what the timing is going to be, whether it's going to be in February, whether it be in this spring or whether it's going to be next fall.
02:28:45.000 Who knows?
02:28:45.000 They could set things in motion that they don't have total control of.
02:28:49.000 The bigger picture is that there is going to be massive chaos as the petrodollar disappears.
02:28:55.000 We have forces within the United States working to make that happen.
02:28:59.000 And, of course, we have Vladimir Putin working very earnestly, like I said, like a honey badger, to take away the petrodollar.
02:29:07.000 And he is building alliances to make that happen.
02:29:10.000 Thank you so much.
02:29:10.000 Let's move on to Renee in Colorado.
02:29:13.000 Go ahead, Renee.
02:29:15.000 Hello, David.
02:29:16.000 Hi.
02:29:18.000 You say you want to talk about illegals?
02:29:20.000 Yes, sir.
02:29:21.000 I'm being terrorized by an undocumented illegal.
02:29:24.000 I'm actually legally blind.
02:29:26.000 I'm 53 years old.
02:29:27.000 And she is not only undocumented, but was allowed to file charges against me, allegedly saying I called her something I did not.
02:29:34.000 And I want to know where I stand and what can I do.
02:29:37.000 I just wondered if you or any of the viewers could possibly help.
02:29:42.000 Well, we'll take calls on it.
02:29:43.000 I really don't know what to tell you because we've reported over and over again how people who come here and are not citizens in this country are given rights that we as citizens do not enjoy.
02:29:52.000 We see that from everything from traffic accounts to traffic violations to other aspects.
02:29:57.000 We'll be right back with more of your calls.
02:29:59.000 The Empire's on the run.
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02:34:30.000 I want to go back to your calls, but before I do, I just wanted to point out just the amazing news that we see in this article.
02:34:38.000 If you didn't catch the first hour, we talked to Paul Joseph Watson about his article.
02:34:42.000 It's up on Infowars.com.
02:34:44.000 Police are using social media posts to determine your threat score.
02:34:50.000 Your threat score.
02:34:51.000 So they're notified when they pull you over if you're a bigger threat to them than the general public, which are already trained to be a threat to them.
02:35:00.000 And of course, this is based on things like your social media posts, your purchasing habits.
02:35:05.000 Who knows what it's based on?
02:35:06.000 And we also talked about a story of some, and I forget what location that was, but it was a couple of former police officers who were indicted because they tried to set up some city councilmen who weren't funding the police department the way the police department wanted to be funded.
02:35:24.000 They were hired by a legal firm that represented 100, it was in California, 120 different police unions in California.
02:35:33.000 They hired these two guys to get dirt on these councilmen, and what they did was they followed them from a bar to home and then called up as snitches and said, hey, these guys drove home drunk.
02:35:45.000 However, they didn't have anything to drink at the bar.
02:35:47.000 They had non-alcoholic drinks and they were not drunk and this whole thing is turning into an indictment for those officers.
02:35:56.000 Also, We've just learned that there is now a new Surgeon General that's been confirmed by the Senate Democrats.
02:36:05.000 All the Democrats essentially voted for him.
02:36:07.000 There was only one Republican who voted for his confirmation.
02:36:10.000 The man is Vivek Murthy.
02:36:13.000 He was confirmed by a 51-43 vote yesterday.
02:36:16.000 The LA Times reminds us that he believes that guns are, quote, a health care issue.
02:36:23.000 Back in October 2012, Murthy tweeted that he was, quote, tired of politicians playing politics with guns and putting lives at risk because they're scared of the NRA.
02:36:36.000 No.
02:36:37.000 No, it's because politicians understand that we have God-given rights that are specifically protected in the Constitution, and those are not negotiable.
02:36:51.000 We have some people who have showed up in Washington State.
02:36:53.000 Now, of course, this is where we had the video yesterday of the sheriff's deputy talking about how they needed the MRAPs for constitutionalists, and there's been a pushback against that by the sheriff, essentially attacking Infowars as being just a conspiracy site.
02:37:09.000 Well, you can look at that video yourself and you can see whether those comments are out of context.
02:37:15.000 They're not.
02:37:16.000 But meanwhile, in Washington state, there's something else going on.
02:37:19.000 In Olympia, Washington, Gavin Symes, quote, we will not comply, unquote, pro-gun rally happened with between 1,000 and 3,000 people who showed up.
02:37:30.000 Now, they're protesting a new law that just passed in the last election.
02:37:36.000 That's Initiative 594, which among other things, now requires gun owners to obtain a background check before transferring a handgun to another party, person to person.
02:37:48.000 At the moment, the law became effective at midnight, December 4th.
02:37:51.000 A YouTube aggregator called Laughing at Liberals, I like that, L-A-L, Laughing at Liberals, posted a video showing just such a transfer taking place without the requisite background check.
02:38:04.000 Now, of course, that's not being covered by the mainstream media, but that's something else that's going on in Washington.
02:38:08.000 I guess that's some of those people that the sheriff is so concerned about, people who might transfer a weapon from one person to the other.
02:38:15.000 And of course, Should we have licensing checks and background checks for people to exercise their First Amendment?
02:38:25.000 Well, that's something that's been proposed by the Obama administration, but that hasn't...
02:38:31.000 They've hinted at that, and of course we've seen persecution of the First Amendment like we've never seen it before.
02:38:38.000 One more thing on the gun issue.
02:38:40.000 As we look at Sandy Hook, we've noted a lot of anomalies.
02:38:44.000 Wolfgang Halbig has noted a lot of anomalies about the Sandy Hook shooting, to say the least.
02:38:51.000 One of the things that was very unusual about it was that none of the families had sued.
02:38:56.000 In every other case that Wolfgang had analyzed, the families would always sue for negligence, sue the school system or sue the police department.
02:39:08.000 None of that happened until now.
02:39:10.000 But they're not suing the government.
02:39:13.000 They're suing the gun maker.
02:39:16.000 The Bushmaster company, the company that made the Bushmaster, is being sued by all of the families.
02:39:23.000 They're not going to sue anybody for negligence.
02:39:26.000 They're just going to sue the gun maker.
02:39:28.000 So I guess we should start suing the car companies when somebody has an accident.
02:39:35.000 But of course there's a lot more to Sandy Hook than that.
02:39:37.000 Let's go back to your calls.
02:39:39.000 Caleb in Washington.
02:39:41.000 You called about the sheriff in Washington.
02:39:42.000 Go ahead.
02:39:43.000 Yeah, I was calling.
02:39:45.000 I actually reside in Spokane Valley.
02:39:48.000 And the sheriff is named Ozzy Knezovich.
02:39:51.000 And I'd just like to point out that when you think of Washington State, you think of a liberal state.
02:39:56.000 But over on the east side of Washington State, it's actually very conservative.
02:39:59.000 A lot of farmers here.
02:40:01.000 Is that where he is?
02:40:04.000 Where that sheriff is?
02:40:06.000 Yes, he's in Spokane Valley.
02:40:08.000 It's right on the border with Idaho there.
02:40:12.000 And to be fair, he has kept a high standard for his officers.
02:40:16.000 He's actually been in quite a lot of trouble.
02:40:18.000 With the police union, because he's gone on record firing deputies for poor behavior.
02:40:25.000 But I found it interesting that in the local news here, he went on record saying that the officer misspoke.
02:40:33.000 It should not have used the word constitutionalist, and perhaps extremist was a better word for the type of people that officer was talking about.
02:40:42.000 Well, you saw the video.
02:40:43.000 Do you think it was taken out of context?
02:40:46.000 I do not.
02:40:47.000 And I'd like to point out that constitutionalist isn't a word that's thrown around very often.
02:40:58.000 Where did he get that?
02:40:59.000 We know precisely where he got that.
02:41:01.000 We've seen the reports, we've seen the training documents, we've heard the rhetoric.
02:41:05.000 From police departments across the country.
02:41:08.000 We know where this is coming from.
02:41:10.000 It's coming from Homeland Security.
02:41:11.000 It's coming from the FBI.
02:41:13.000 It's coming from the federal government.
02:41:15.000 They're training your local police department to be militarized, to see you as a threat.
02:41:21.000 Absolutely.
02:41:21.000 see you as someone that needs to be put down.
02:41:24.000 And, of course, anybody that talks about the Constitution, that's somebody that needs to be, they need to be concerned about.
02:41:29.000 Those are political enemies they perceive of their agenda.
02:41:32.000 It says more about their agenda than it does about us, I believe.
02:41:36.000 Absolutely.
02:41:38.000 I'd just like to also say there's going to be a rally on Saturday at the Spokane Valley Police Office.
02:41:44.000 Okay, good.
02:41:45.000 So anybody that's upset about this issue, show up.
02:41:47.000 Yes, and they can see the sheriff's reaction, as well as our comments to it on that article on InfoWars.com.
02:41:54.000 And I believe that article also mentions that rally that's coming up on Saturday.
02:41:57.000 Thank you so much, Caleb in Washington.
02:41:59.000 Go to that rally.
02:42:00.000 Tell your Sheriff what you think.
02:42:01.000 And you know, unlike a Chief of Police, a Sheriff actually has to stand for election.
02:42:06.000 That's an important thing.
02:42:08.000 So keep that in mind.
02:42:09.000 Let's go to Max in Ohio.
02:42:11.000 Max?
02:42:13.000 Hey, how you doing?
02:42:13.000 Hey David.
02:42:15.000 I was going to tell you about the Sandy Hook thing.
02:42:18.000 I heard that on Dr. Savage's show yesterday on the news report.
02:42:23.000 Maybe Bushmaster needs to hire Wolfgang Howard to be their investigator for them.
02:42:29.000 Well, maybe if he gets a lot of big money behind him, he can actually get somebody to respond to some of his FOIA requests, other than sending highway patrolmen to his house to try to intimidate him.
02:42:40.000 But, yeah, it's very strange.
02:42:42.000 And I don't know if you saw the debate that we had.
02:42:48.000 On InfoWars.
02:42:49.000 I think it was on last Friday, but yeah, it's interesting.
02:42:52.000 I think there's a lot of questions, a lot of unanswered questions, and of course many things that we see happening as part of a false flag.
02:43:01.000 There's things that we see being done over and over again.
02:43:05.000 Buildings being taken down, the debris being taken away before anybody gets a chance to take a look at it.
02:43:11.000 We saw that at 9-11.
02:43:14.000 We also saw that with the false flags that Vladimir Putin used to get into power.
02:43:19.000 They use the same types of things over and over again and immediately when there's a terrorist attack and they have solved it, they know which group it is and they're going to come after that group as we saw with the Vladimir Putin false flags.
02:43:34.000 They immediately penned it on the Chechens and used it to start a short war where he could declare victory.
02:43:40.000 Yeah, when we see that kind of thing, every government seems to use that.
02:43:45.000 Certainly the most corrupt and criminal ones, and that's something that we see happening with our government.
02:43:50.000 Did you have any other comment about that?
02:43:53.000 Well, for one, I think the Sandy Hook thing, that's pretty gutsy, man.
02:43:58.000 Especially with everything that Wolfgang Halbers pointed out.
02:44:02.000 I mean, you figure that would open them up even more.
02:44:06.000 I don't know how much Bushmasters work or how much they're seeking damages, but you know, sometimes they just settle just to put it under the rug.
02:44:13.000 And it's time for people to start standing up and fighting this stuff and exposing it even more.
02:44:18.000 Well, you know, it's interesting because when they sue the company, they don't have to go into the details of the shooting that much, as if they, as they would if they were suing for negligence, the school system or the police department.
02:44:32.000 Then they would have to talk specifically about what was there, and that would uncover some of that.
02:44:36.000 But with this, this allows them to do an end around and just essentially come after the company that was named as having the gun that was used.
02:44:45.000 It allows them to go after them without really looking at the details of Sandy Hook.
02:44:50.000 So it is kind of an ingenious strategy.
02:44:52.000 We see that happening over and over again.
02:44:55.000 Thank you so much.
02:44:55.000 Let's go on to Dean in Florida.
02:44:58.000 Dean?
02:45:00.000 Yes, hi.
02:45:01.000 Thanks for taking my call.
02:45:02.000 Sure, go ahead.
02:45:03.000 You wanted to talk about the police state, it says.
02:45:05.000 Yeah, well, I wanted to talk specifically a few months ago.
02:45:08.000 I was in a McDonald's and there was a Florida Highway Patrolman that came in.
02:45:16.000 And anyway, I ended up handing him a little slip of paper that had it said InfoWars by No, we're starting to lose you.
02:45:31.000 Hang on a second.
02:45:32.000 You said you handed this to an officer?
02:45:34.000 A piece of paper that said Infowars.com?
02:45:38.000 Yes, I wrote down Infowars.com's website and the Rutherford Institute's website.
02:45:46.000 And I handed it to the police officer.
02:45:49.000 And boy, he got worried and kind of upset.
02:45:52.000 He gave the thing back to me.
02:45:55.000 And I'll tell you, I tried to engage him in some conversation.
02:46:00.000 And he didn't want to talk about anything, and I said, what are you afraid of and all this?
02:46:08.000 And he ended up telling me, well, you don't have the need to know.
02:46:11.000 So something is going to happen really soon.
02:46:15.000 And I mean, this is verification on an individual level.
02:46:22.000 Yeah, it's a shame.
02:46:23.000 They need to understand how they're being played and they need to understand that their family, their future is on the line as well, that they're not separate and above the rest of this country, that they're part of the country.
02:46:34.000 They need to understand how they're being played.
02:46:36.000 by the federal government.
02:46:37.000 They should get a clue when they see the government putting out these threat scores on the public, telling them that we are the enemy, giving them targets of civilians and ordinary citizens.
02:46:50.000 Even I'm using the military terminology, that we are civilians and they're somehow officers who are above all of this.
02:46:58.000 And of course, we don't have a need to know what our servants are doing, our public servants.
02:47:06.000 Right?
02:47:06.000 Why don't we have a need to know?
02:47:07.000 We pay their salary.
02:47:09.000 They're supposedly working to provide security and safety for us.
02:47:13.000 That's what we're being told and yet we're not allowed to know.
02:47:17.000 We don't have a need to know anything that our government is doing.
02:47:20.000 And that's true from the top level all the way down to the lowest local level.
02:47:25.000 That's the kind of arrogance we see coming from our government.
02:47:27.000 Thank you so much, Dean.
02:47:28.000 Let's move on to Chad in Washington.
02:47:31.000 Chad, go ahead.
02:47:34.000 I wanted to bring up a topic that I don't really hear people talk about a lot.
02:47:39.000 That's geoengineering.
02:47:42.000 And I encourage people to Google Arctic methane emergency.
02:47:48.000 And I don't think it's something really being talked about, but it's amongst all the scientists in that world.
02:47:55.000 But I also wanted to turn you guys on to a guy named Dane Wiginton, if you don't already know who he is.
02:48:03.000 I think you run the website called geoengineeringwatch.org.
02:48:08.000 Yeah, it's something that we talk about from time to time, and we covered it when they were just having their annual geoengineering convention.
02:48:14.000 It was somewhere in Europe, I think it was in Germany.
02:48:16.000 And there were papers that were being put out, and one of the papers that I covered, the guy was saying, well, these are things that we could possibly do.
02:48:25.000 But then, of course, his question was, because they always like to pretend not really doing it, but it's something that they're considering to do in the future.
02:48:31.000 He raised an interesting question.
02:48:33.000 He said, who has the right to set the thermostat?
02:48:38.000 If we have these techniques and we can use them, who gets a chance to determine what the global thermostat should be?
02:48:44.000 Who gets punished?
02:48:45.000 Who gets rewarded?
02:48:46.000 I think that's a key question, but of course, that's not going to be answered.
02:48:50.000 Thank you so much, Chad in Washington.
02:48:52.000 Let's go to Thomas in Tennessee.
02:48:54.000 Thomas?
02:48:55.000 Hey, yes sir.
02:48:56.000 How are you doing today?
02:48:57.000 Doing good.
02:48:57.000 You said you wanted to talk about constitutional issues, I think?
02:49:00.000 Yes, sir.
02:49:01.000 Constitutional rights.
02:49:02.000 Um, first off, I'd like to read Article 6, Paragraph 2 of the Constitution.
02:49:06.000 It says, The Constitution and the laws of the United States, which shall be made in pursuant thereof, and all treaties made, or which shall be made under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land, and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby.
02:49:23.000 Anything in contrary or laws of any state to the contrary should be notwithstanding.
02:49:30.000 And what notwithstanding is, that's a legal definition in law.
02:49:33.000 And it means void of law.
02:49:36.000 Null.
02:49:37.000 And every traffic citation is notwithstanding.
02:49:41.000 And that's what they're scared of.
02:49:44.000 Yeah.
02:49:44.000 Do you have, in Tennessee, do you have jury trials available for you with a traffic violation?
02:49:52.000 According to the Constitution of the United States of America, anything with a fine of $20 or greater in a jury trial shall be granted.
02:49:59.000 So yes, according to that, anywhere in America has that.
02:50:02.000 And I think it's very important for us to utilize that.
02:50:05.000 If nothing else, even if you don't win, go to court and make an argument to the jury about jury nullification.
02:50:12.000 Make their lives as difficult as possible.
02:50:15.000 That's what I do when I go through the airport security.
02:50:19.000 It's like, I'm going to make them do the full pat down on me.
02:50:23.000 I'm not going to make their life any easier.
02:50:25.000 If they're going to hassle me, then bring it on.
02:50:30.000 I'll hassle them back.
02:50:31.000 And I think you ought to inform your citizens because it's something that's much bigger even than traffic violations.
02:50:36.000 It applies to everything.
02:50:37.000 People need to understand that juries are there to protect our rights.
02:50:41.000 It's one of our best Foundations, one of our best protections.
02:50:44.000 It only takes one juror to strike down a law or a law that is being misapplied or has draconian punishments in it.
02:50:52.000 That's something we need to stand up for each other.
02:50:54.000 You don't have to elect somebody.
02:50:56.000 You just have to go be a juror and stand up for your legal rights in a jury trial.
02:51:01.000 Here in Texas, if you get a speeding ticket or any kind of a traffic violation, you can check a box.
02:51:06.000 and say, I want a jury trial.
02:51:07.000 We'll be right back taking your call.
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02:54:07.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
02:54:24.000 I'm David Knight.
02:54:25.000 In this final segment, we're going to be taking your calls.
02:54:27.000 Before we go back to the calls, I wanted to point out an article that's up on Infowars.com.
02:54:32.000 The Department of Defense, DARPA, says that they are developing a magic bullet that can change direction after being fired.
02:54:40.000 When I saw this, I thought, Arlen Spector must be giving a thumbs up from the grave.
02:54:45.000 You know, he's the guy who advanced the magic bullet theory that the single shooter had a bullet that took out JFK and changed direction several times, so maybe that was something that the DOD developed decades ago.
02:55:01.000 Or maybe it's something that they'll have in our future.
02:55:04.000 Let's go back to your calls, David in New York.
02:55:07.000 Go ahead, David.
02:55:08.000 Mr. Knight, how are you doing today?
02:55:09.000 Doing fine.
02:55:11.000 Mr. Knight, I've got a story that I'd like to tell your listeners, and if it's okay with you, I've got a website where people can support the gentleman who is the subject of this prosecution for using a gun in self-defense.
02:55:27.000 A fellow here in New York was helping an itinerant guy next door, getting food, and At one point this fella confessed that he was actually using a false name and he was a fugitive on a rape charge.
02:55:44.000 That he was hiding in the woods, so my guy...
02:55:48.000 Arranged to get the message to the police and the police actually drafted him to try to deliver this guy to them.
02:55:54.000 I remember you called and we got to your call at the very tail end of the show several days ago.
02:56:00.000 Before we run out of time, give us the website.
02:56:04.000 People can look at that and they can contribute.
02:56:05.000 They can see what the case was because we probably won't have enough time for even if we just take your call to get to the end of it.
02:56:11.000 But give us a website where they can learn about that and contribute to help this guy.
02:56:16.000 It's David Carlson Fund dot com.
02:56:18.000 David Carlson Fund dot com.
02:56:21.000 Spell Carlson.
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02:56:26.000 Okay.
02:56:26.000 Alright, good.
02:56:27.000 And, yes, yes, go ahead.
02:56:30.000 The police, when the police didn't get this guy arrested after several attempts, they even launched a manhunt, which was unsuccessful.
02:56:38.000 My guy put him in a car, delivered him to the police, and they still let him go because they didn't cuff him.
02:56:44.000 Now, when the guy finally confronted my fellow, after he had eluded the manhunt, he made a citizen's arrest, walked this guy a quarter mile to a neighbor's house, and the neighbor saw what happened.
02:56:57.000 He said this fellow was close enough to grab the shotgun when my guy fired and killed him.
02:57:04.000 A very different result than we would see with the police, who we've seen many times that they're not indicted even if they shoot people at a distance.
02:57:14.000 Merely saying that they were concerned that the homeless man, when there's eight police officers who fire 49 times, they were concerned that the homeless man at quite a distance from them might have had a knife.
02:57:24.000 Okay, so people can go to that website and take a look at that.
02:57:28.000 Let's go on to David in Idaho.
02:57:30.000 I want to get through the callers as quick as I can.
02:57:32.000 Thanks, David.
02:57:33.000 Let's go to David in Idaho.
02:57:34.000 You said you want to talk about police and martial law.
02:57:36.000 Go ahead.
02:57:37.000 Okay, sorry.
02:57:38.000 Let's go to Wayne in Texas.
02:57:40.000 Wayne?
02:57:42.000 Yes sir, David, I really do appreciate it.
02:57:44.000 You are a great host.
02:57:46.000 Just real quick, I think it's really important that people pay attention to the whole Sandy Hook suing Bushmasters, because they're going to have to present evidence.
02:57:56.000 And I think that that is a very important thing that we should keep our eyes on as a public and as news media.
02:58:03.000 Well, I hope that does happen.
02:58:04.000 As I said before, I kind of think that they're going for the gun manufacturer because that will allow them to avoid a lot of specifics just by saying that they have culpability simply because they have the gun.
02:58:18.000 If they don't want to go in and explore that, that would be something they could do.
02:58:22.000 Hopefully, Bushmaster will go on the offensive and say, show us the records.
02:58:26.000 Prove that that was our gun, even, that was used there, because that's even a question.
02:58:30.000 Well, that's all the time we've got for today.
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