On this special Christmas edition of the Global Turntable, Alex Jones takes you live from the Central Texas Command Center in the heart of the resistance. He talks about the dark side of Christmas, and how it's a time to be thankful for all the things we have in our lives.
00:00:32.000Yes, they've turned into a giant commercial event.
00:00:35.000There's record numbers of suicides and car wrecks and DWIs on the state.
00:00:40.000And it's not the traffic and the long lines that lead up to Christmas I like, but it is, it is the Christmas carols, it's the music of childhood, it's meeting with family.
00:00:54.000And I really like the message of Christ that Christmas is connected to, and that's something that the system really tries to distract us from with fad-driven hoaxes like Santa Claus.
00:01:07.000And I'm not against that jolly old elf, it's just that he's only been manufactured in the West in the last 80 years or so.
00:01:14.000Sure, in the Netherlands and other areas Santa Claus was a jolly old guy, but you go back to the 1700s, Christmas was banned in England for a while because it was a day kind of like Devil's Night in Detroit to go out and burn down buildings and murder people.
00:01:31.000And Santa Claus was a striped, shirted, Freddy Krueger type elf who was a patron saint of murdering gangs that were out looting and, as I said, raping and burning down buildings.
00:01:46.000So Christmas is a lot of things to a lot of people.
00:01:50.000But on this Christmas edition of the Global Transmission, I just want to say that I'm thankful for all the great listeners out there that put up with me.
00:02:06.000You know, God's good graces, some people call it luck, but I knock on wood and thank the good Lord above for all of the close calls I've had.
00:02:15.000There's certainly an invisible hand of good working there to shepherd and protect so many of us.
00:02:22.000I'm thankful for the amazing fact that I'm alive and conscious and that I can interface with all of you other conscious beings.
00:02:31.000And I'm always humbled by the fact that I have an audience that tunes in on record levels even during days like Christmas when most radio shows have almost no listeners.
00:02:44.000And it's because you're hardcore folks that care about humanity, care about defeating tyranny, you take it personal, you're involved, and you're the salt of the earth.
00:02:54.000So, I get grumpy, I get irritable doing three, four hours of radio every day, and sometimes I'm a jerk.
00:02:58.000But in my heart, I really love all of you, and I appreciate you and our guest sponsors, affiliates, really everyone that's made the InfoWar possible, and has seen through all of my foibles, all of my warts, all of my problems, and seen that kernel of greatness there that has helped grow the InfoWar so much.
00:03:18.000Because Gandhi said that in each of us is the seed of the universe, and Just as I saw, and Paul Watson, and so many other great reporters I have, the seeds of greatness, you have seen that in me as well, and we see that back looking at each other.
00:03:32.000I mean, Drudge Report has helped us to send hundreds and hundreds of millions of visitors over the years to InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
00:03:45.000out there like World Net Daily and countless others and mainstream journalists as well.
00:03:48.000You know, even Esquire last year did a profile, I guess this year, seems like last year, seems like starting 2015 and said, Alex Jones is really a pretty good guy.
00:03:57.000And then they almost didn't publish it and put it at the back, the writer told me.
00:04:00.000But they said, if we don't get a picture of you acting crazy, it really won't go in there.
00:04:07.000It was like a famous documentary filmmaker made a big five-part documentary with me in it, Joe Belger, and when it went to Discovery Channel, they said it's too positive, make Alex look bad, and he refused, so they shelved the five million dollar project.
00:04:23.000It was a million dollar budget per piece, and it would have gotten ratings for Discovery.
00:04:29.000He's the guy that made some kind of monster You name it with Metallica, Brothers Keeper, just a really famous award-winning guy.
00:04:37.000I think he won an Academy Award, it was a nomination.
00:04:40.000I'm not bragging here, the point is that there have been so many people out there that resonate for justice and freedom.
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00:09:12.000Tommy Lee, one of my favorite drummers, of course of Motley Crue fame, is doing drums on the album.
00:09:19.000We're going to be playing part of some of the songs here today, but not in their entirety, because that'll send the computer bots crazy out there on different internet platforms.
00:09:29.000Billy Corgan is our guest, or as I say it in Texas, drawl, where we butcher names, Billy Corgan!
00:10:37.000He spoke out about the dumbing down of music with MTV and more, and they don't like smart people who have the power of reaching tens of millions who've sold 40 million albums, just like Dave Mustaine.
00:10:49.000Their views may differ a little bit, but they agree on fighting Terry.
00:11:25.000Let's talk about Anderson Cooper first.
00:11:27.000Not that he even matters, has almost no viewers, Dinosaur Media.
00:11:31.000But at the same time, it's so clear that every time you've got an album about to come out, the hit pieces begin because they want to slap you down.
00:12:05.000It's me and my rescue cats on the cover of the magazine.
00:12:09.000Never in a million years did I think I'd start getting attacked.
00:12:11.000And out of nowhere, four or five months later, there I am being made fun of.
00:12:15.000No context for the fact that it's a charity magazine.
00:12:18.000Basically presented as if I've fallen so far off the celebrity radar that I'm reduced to doing a cat magazine.
00:12:24.000Then ties it into kind of a where has he gone, whatever happened to him kind of thing, kind of mocking my participation in professional wrestling.
00:12:33.000No mention of my new album, no mention of my successes, nothing.
00:12:37.000It's as if I just disappeared off the celebrity map.
00:12:43.000And I think he's probably been a bit shocked by the reaction because, A, I fought back, which you're not supposed to do.
00:12:48.000You're supposed to take your licks and just put your tail between your legs because the mighty CNN has spoken.
00:12:54.000And on top of that, now a lot of animal rights people raised up and started poking them in the eye because, you know, it's something that, you know, that's a demarcation line that should be left alone, people doing charity work.
00:13:05.000It really is emblematic of the sickness of our culture.
00:13:09.000And by the way, you don't brag about that a lot, but I've seen it.
00:13:12.000You help a lot of charities out there, and you were helping save and rescue cats, raising and other, you know, tons of money, and, you know, really working in the community like I know you quietly do in and around Chicago, and then you're a bad guy.
00:13:24.000No, it's because you are a good guy and are quietly out there working while doing other big things in media that they're scared of you.
00:13:31.000It's because they know they don't control you, and you know what's going on.
00:13:37.000Yeah, I think it is very interesting to see these kind of assassins come out of the woodwork.
00:13:42.000This is probably the most well-received album I've had in about 20 years.
00:13:47.000And I've been through a lot, you know, in my own way.
00:13:49.000And, you know, I've shot myself in the foot like any good artist would.
00:13:52.000But I've seemed to kind of dialed it back in.
00:13:55.000The music business is coming up back around me.
00:13:58.000And it's amazing that all of a sudden then you're, you know, then you're at a target because, you know, you have power, you've amassed power again.
00:14:05.000It's the kind of power that's very threatening to those systems.
00:14:59.000Well, and the reason we raise it, I know my audience is very informed, it's that obviously you can speak here uncensored, they won't be able to filter it as much, and so you can speak directly to it because this is what happens to myself, to Ron Paul, to countless others that really try to shift the paradigm.
00:15:17.000into really waking up to the larger control system is they put articles out constantly.
00:15:22.000Alex Jones, you know, has no audience.
00:15:24.000Alex Jones wishes he wasn't discredited.
00:15:27.000Alex Jones is a racist with no proof but we know they're doing it because they want to assassinate the messenger.
00:15:36.000But the good news is they've already assassinated their own credibility so they're shooting blanks and I don't think in their arrogance they figured that out yet, Billy.
00:15:47.000No, I agree with you, but just to give you a little bit of context on the other side of it, right after the Anderson Cooper thing kind of went viral, I know you put a story on your site and I gave a quote for that, when that sort of kind of ticked back up into the mainstream consciousness, I probably did about ten interviews in the next couple days, and in seven of the ten interviews I was asked about the Anderson Cooper flap, and five of the seven people who interviewed me had no idea it was for a charity.
00:16:14.000So that shows you that there is still a little effectiveness.
00:17:14.000You know, I think what's interesting, to me, I try to stay out of the personal side of it, although I did say the other day I wasn't born with a silver spoon up my arse like he was.
00:17:29.000I think it's very interesting that There is a level of arrogance here.
00:17:33.000That crowd, whatever that crowd is, and I've hung with them, you know, I've been in those rooms and so have you.
00:17:38.000I've been to those parties and so have you.
00:17:40.000That crowd really thinks they can sort of flick us off the shoulder anytime they want.
00:17:44.000And what they don't realize is that people like you and me are just symbols of a much greater conversation.
00:17:49.000They don't understand that a vast part of our country is waking up.
00:17:54.000Uh, is breaking this hypnosis, this grip of hypnosis, and they can't see it.
00:18:00.000They do not think, they literally think they can just double down, triple down on these narratives and these false paradigms and the public's just going to keep laughing them up.
00:18:08.000Uh, and I think, uh, as we've seen from recent events, people are starting to sort of question that the narratives and, and, and you see the media, those old world medias doubling, triple, quadrupling down on false, uh, storylines because they literally don't have a B plan.
00:18:25.000I agree with you, and just the beginning of the questioning is the beginning of the end, because as soon as you question, you're no longer only in that narrow, low-information media system.
00:18:37.000You come out of Plato's cave, and it's game over.
00:18:40.000That is such an incredibly exciting thing.
00:18:42.000You know, I think one of your songs in the last album, or the album before, was about the world on fire, and the lyrics really spoke to this.
00:18:49.000I remember we were talking like six years ago, and you were saying you can clearly see crisis after crisis coming, which is now here, but that out of that we really could see a new renaissance.
00:19:00.000I think I get the sense from talking to my friends and family, and I'm sure many of your listeners, of course, which I'm one of, those conversations that we had around the dinner table seven years ago, which were really difficult conversations to have, and people would just throw their hands up and say, "You're crazy." which were really difficult conversations to have, and people would Now people are listening.
00:19:20.000And just the fact that you're even able to sit at that table and have those conversations.
00:19:24.000And be able to back it up with statistics and people, you know, the failure of this particular administration, the lying that goes on, and the fact that there's this greater divide between the public that's awake and the public that's asleep.
00:19:38.000I mean, those that are asleep really must want to be asleep because, I mean, how could you not be?
00:20:31.000It's just they are dancing on their own graves.
00:20:34.000When you are just having the courage to express what's already there, and as you said, we're like little tips of icebergs sticking up, or little focal points, as Ron Paul always says.
00:20:45.000We are just like everybody else that is trying to find out what the hell is really going on.
00:20:51.000I can't disagree with you, and I think there's a democratization there in the way that we're all communicating.
00:20:57.000And, you know, thank God for people like you for building these new systems by which we're sharing information.
00:21:03.000And, you know, we're building up our own networks of communication.
00:21:05.000I mean, basically, I would argue we're past the tipping point, and now it's just how is this all going to play out?
00:21:12.000And as you've been predicting for, I don't know, how many years?
00:21:15.000Now we're seeing the rolling out of this next wave of control and propaganda.
00:21:21.000But the fact of the matter is that everyone's so prepared.
00:21:24.000And has been sort of mentally prepared for what's coming.
00:21:27.000I just want to point out one small thing, because I think it's important in the context of the conversation we're having.
00:21:32.000You know, when President Obama was elected, that night I went on stage and I knew, I was already listening to you, I was kind of like half awake, let's put it.
00:21:42.000And I went on stage and I said, let's hope this isn't a sign that things are going to go in the right direction.
00:21:47.000And you actually ran a piece, and we didn't know each other then, you did a piece kind of mocking me for being another celebrity sort of buying, drinking the Kool-Aid.
00:21:59.000But I remember thinking back to the time where I was in my own kind of awakening.
00:22:04.000And, you know, we have to remember, those of us that are awake, there are so many people that are in that horrible moment of like, wow, if this stuff is true, what do I do?
00:22:15.000You see people waking up and it's really shocking to them that they've been given a lie sort of all along.
00:22:21.000And as you sit in bars and, you know, around coffee houses and talk to people about what's really going on, you can see that it's not so much that they don't know that something's happening, they just don't know what to do about it.
00:22:31.000So we have to continue to prepare the way.
00:22:33.000And, you know, this is not some begging appeal, you know, to be supported as an artist.
00:22:38.000But what I would say to everybody is, is the artists in many ways are some of the most dangerous people in the world because we have that, we have that street credibility to go out and sing some gospel.
00:22:47.000And that's what makes me dangerous, is once my career starts rolling in the right direction again, well here I come, because how is it possible?
00:22:54.000I mean, they've tried to kill me how many times?
00:22:57.000And Anderson Cooper is just a small example getting kicked in the shin.
00:23:01.000And so it really helps, and I'm not begging for my own self, but please support artists, support free voices, support people like Alex to keep speaking out.
00:23:10.000And it does require material support, like I'm a supporter of what you're doing with InfoWars Life, right?
00:23:18.000Billy, I want to shift gears and talk about this more deeply because, and I use this analogy too much, I apologize, but it's so accurate, I use it.
00:23:27.00020 years ago you couldn't find organic food anywhere.
00:23:29.000It was very expensive if you could, because there was no market.
00:23:32.000As people began to demand it, it grew the market, prices went down, it's now displacing all the garbage, it's displacing the high fructose corn syrup, they're taking it out of Hershey's.
00:23:43.000Now look, there's still some fake organic, there's still problems.
00:23:47.000The point is, we demanded quality, the market changed.
00:23:50.000And exactly, if people go out and support independent artists that are speaking out against tyranny, that's great music as well, and buy your album at smashingpumpkinsnexus.com, and then play it for friends, and then ask that it be played on the radio, or share it with their friends, that's how you bring the system down.
00:24:10.000You've got to go further and decide you want to promote cultures of liberty.
00:24:14.000I can't tell you historically how many kings, how many corrupt dynasties were brought down by a jester telling jokes that became viral in ancient times or By the local band or even one guy with his, they didn't have guitars back then, you know, one guy with his little mandolin or whatever, singing songs about the corrupt nobility, that would change it.
00:24:39.000So a song or an idea that isn't in the hands of the system could bring them down and that's why they target people like you.
00:24:49.000Look, there was a reason the CIA was spying on John Lennon.
00:24:55.000At that point in time, he was probably the most dangerous artist in the world.
00:25:01.000Well, I can't speak to that, but I'll say this much.
00:25:05.000If you look at the power that rock and roll had, In the 70s, vis-a-vis the power that rock and roll has now, I think there's been a concerted effort to drain those systems of their power.
00:25:17.000Because it's just too radical, it's just too dangerous.
00:25:20.000And when you have the power of a John Lennon or a Bob Marley, and they can literally have one song that will change the consciousness of the world, and get people to look at something different.
00:25:29.000And I would point, and I'm saying this from a very specific point of view, Look at the lack of political music in the world right now and compare that to the 1960s.
00:25:39.000It is unbelievable the lack of political and social discourse in music right now.
00:25:46.000Do you think that's an accidental omission?
00:25:49.000They came in and they took it over on record.
00:25:51.000Billy Corgan of Smashing Pumpkins fame is our guest.
00:25:56.000We're going to send out a tweet of the website right now.
00:25:59.000We're going to post this video later today on Facebook and Twitter.
00:26:02.000It needs to go viral because he has a lot of courage saying what he's saying because they really come after people.
00:26:07.000I got to be very careful here what I'm going to say about John Lennon.
00:26:11.000But they made a film six, seven years ago that won a bunch of awards that had the declassified documents where Strom Thurmond, the senator, and others said, we want him taken out.
00:26:20.000We know the suspicious way he was killed.
00:26:26.000I've talked to the highest level people and been told stuff about what really went on and then what happened to them afterwards and everything and I can tell you the FBI and the CIA killed John Lennon and then they went on a campaign to cover up what they did with their Patsy and so that's why when we talk about this folks it's very dangerous.
00:26:44.000I mean so so we're not saying hey we're heroes here we're just saying realize this isn't just your regular you know shucking jive on CNN.
00:26:52.000I mean we're really laying it out here.
00:26:56.000I think what's kind of funny about modern life is I don't think they have to kill you anymore.
00:27:15.000But if you look at a lot of the subtext of the things that are written about an artist like me, it has a lot of, a lot of times, it's a lot of sort of false narratives, moral equivalencies that have nothing to do with music or art or love or people's lives.
00:27:48.000And I know it's the government corporation, so believe me, what Billy's talking about, it goes on here all the time in an attempt to derail us, but it's not going to work because Billy Corgan and Alex Jones are just little bitty expressions like a compound eye of a dragonfly.
00:28:06.000We're just one little tiny part of it.
00:28:12.000And one thing I would add to that, because I know sometimes when I talk like this to people, they think, well, are you saying that everyone who works at the local paper is... No.
00:28:19.000It's these systems are put in place, and then they go out and they find people who are not free thinkers to basically implement the program.
00:28:31.000They're already the little sycophantic type that'll go with whatever the mindless pop culture narrative is.
00:28:37.000Absolutely, and I've even had off-record conversations, like I know you have, where people have admitted to me where they've had stories squashed.
00:28:45.000You know, somebody makes a juice call and makes sure a story is squashed or a particular agenda is promoted.
00:28:50.000So, when you're looking at, you know, your local media and you go, well, this smells like propaganda, know that more than likely that person is not conscious.
00:29:00.000They've been put in that position because they're a proven bootlicker.
00:29:05.000Almost all local news is written in New York or L.A.
00:29:10.000This is on record and packaged and sent.
00:29:12.000You tell them a local story and then they send down what you say.
00:29:16.000Or it's read off a teleprompter if it's a national story.
00:29:19.000Right, so if there's a man in a high castle somewhere, you know, there's not a lot of them.
00:29:25.000But they're able to, through their control and their media control, sort of manipulate the storyline.
00:29:30.000We, look, your listers know, and I'm a lister, you know, we know.
00:29:35.000These things are, I mean, we sit back, look, when Ferguson started to boil over and you had Jakari and You know, I was watching some of the coverage, and it's really interesting, you know, because, and it's so important that you do that, because you're giving us the real on-the-street perspective as opposed to the propaganda perspective.
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00:34:49.000Billy, I want to get back into what you said about Ferguson and more on the album before you have to leave us in that airport you're sitting in right now.
00:34:56.000But Tommy Lee, I had heard from folks that he was awake.
00:35:00.000I had heard from somebody that worked with him on a TV show behind the scenes that he was all aware of the New World Order.
00:35:05.000I know you don't want to speak for him personally, but can you repeat what you told me during the break?
00:35:12.000And you talked a lot of artists off-record, and you and I have talked about that.
00:35:17.000I think the general public would be shocked how much of the entertainment world is awake, and it's because they're behind the wizard's curtain.
00:35:33.000Yeah, I think the difficulty is these paradigms have been set up where it's like, you know, you have to stare down the barrel of a particular gun, in this case, your career.
00:35:42.000Like I said, I mean, what's the new paradigm?
00:35:43.000You're going to get digitally assassinated, you know what I mean?
00:35:47.000I know there would be some people, particularly in the rock and roll world, that would roll their eyes at these kind of assertions, but there's a reason that the great artists get marginalized.
00:35:56.000They get sucked into things that have nothing to do with their music.
00:36:00.000You know, literally everything I say now is trolled for quotes.
00:36:04.000You know, and I'm not saying it's all political.
00:36:14.000But it ultimately is about the disenfranchising of the artist's vote in the culture.
00:36:19.000In that sense, the constant message is artists' voices don't matter.
00:36:22.000When you look at what a Jimi Hendrix represented as opposed to your normal average politician, okay, you tell me who's the more honorable person.
00:36:32.000Well, it's obviously Jimi Hendrix following his soul, his heart, trailblazing, creating a heavy rock, heavy metal, and a true pioneer.
00:36:42.000Right, and so that's what I'm trying to say, is from cradle to grave, you know, there are systems in place, you know, you pick them, you know, now it's Common Core, you know, the scholarship programs, all this, they're meant to take anybody who's too bright, too smart, and make sure they're corralled into a system from the get-go.
00:37:02.000And God forbid you exist outside that system.
00:37:06.000And Prosper, you and I have, and bless the Lord for the gifts He's given us.
00:37:10.000And I think both of us, and I know we've talked about this, we feel a great responsibility to turn those gifts around to serve others.
00:38:06.000To know there's so many good people that are awake now and looking for me for leadership or whoever.
00:38:11.000I don't think that's where the leadership is.
00:38:13.000It's in our hearts, it's in our souls, it's in following our gut, it's in doing the right thing, and it's in doing the opposite of what mainstream dinosaur media says.
00:38:24.000Where do you and your gut, Billy, as you said, the world's on fire, the previous album, where do you and your gut think civilization's really going?
00:38:46.000Uh, you know, it's one thing to listen to you talk about FEMA documents and, uh, you know, uh, executive orders that we don't know about.
00:38:53.000And, uh, yesterday I think you had on your site about, uh, this idea that it's now legal to spy on everyone everywhere for the end of time and all this kind of stuff.
00:39:02.000Um, you know, these systems are going to double and triple down, um, because, because they have no, uh, alternate plan.
00:39:09.000Uh, they've been in power for a very long time.
00:39:12.000And, uh, whoever's pulling those levers, uh, is, is they're not, uh, they're not, you know, when a baseball team loses, they go, Oh, we'll come back next year.
00:39:24.000Um, and, uh, and you know, sometimes when I'm sitting around a table and, uh, and your name comes up, or I should say some things that I've learned through you and through other people, um, they get into like kind of games about accuracy.
00:39:35.000Like, well, how can you know that that's true?
00:39:37.000And all I gotta say again and again is like, look, come on, something's off here.
00:40:33.000We know what wrong is, and we know a lot of what's going on is wrong.
00:40:37.000Well sure, they have this fake moral authority where accuracy in media, or where media matters, remember the White House, or where they have that truth detector site, or Snopes, run by a couple in an apartment.
00:40:52.000They sit on the mountain and they say what reality is, and anybody that starts telling you they have a corner on reality, well that's who you really got to watch.
00:41:03.000If we reach a point as a race where we do not grieve the loss of every child, I don't care what color, I don't care where they're from.
00:41:50.000And I'm blessed to be one voice in the wilderness, at least a free thinker.
00:41:57.000There are times where it's very difficult in a musical life to struggle where, you know, the numbers don't add up and you don't get the advantage that you think you should get and all these things.
00:42:05.000And those are those hard days where you've got to stare in the mirror and say, Would I rather be on my knees, subjugated to some system that would ask me to be a robot, muffin, something?
00:42:49.000And I was on 100 stations, small mom-and-pops, some of them, but high ratings, and I was growing, and then the towers got blown up, and I said, no, the government's clearly involved, and those stations all called, most of them.
00:43:00.000They said, we're going to turn you off next week, or we're going to turn you off next month on the contracts, up using monthly contracts, if you don't stop it right now.
00:43:59.000And I'm proud of that and it's just like I'm proud of what you've done, but then I only got bigger down the road, but then it only gets scarier because then it's not even about being on the air or being famous.
00:44:09.000It is all about the struggle for reality and trying to find that truth.
00:45:10.000You know, like in talking recently about some of the things that have gone on, the protests that are happening post Uh, is it Mr. Garner with the man's name that was choked?
00:45:20.000Uh, and then the horrible situation and then what obviously what happened in Ferguson.
00:45:24.000And you know, you get these discussions, like I said, around the dinner table and people think that you're, uh, unsentimental or unfeeling and no, it's no, these are horrible.
00:45:32.000Of course there's injustice, uh, in the inner cities.
00:46:12.000This narrative that's spun out all of a sudden.
00:46:13.000All of a sudden we've got to be afraid of the soldiers.
00:46:15.000I'll take a soldier over anybody, any day.
00:46:18.000Exactly, they've tried to dumb it down to the opposite of what Martin Luther King said, judge people on their deeds and what they stand for, what you just said, and then if you don't support all the rioting or whatever, you support the First Amendment but not rioting, then you're bad.
00:46:33.000If you don't say kill the cops randomly, well I don't want to be killed randomly, I don't want to be...
00:46:38.000I don't want to see blacks killed just because they're black or whites killed.
00:46:41.000I mean, it just comes down to civilization and basic common sense.
00:46:45.000Now, Billy, let's talk about your album.
00:46:48.000We just downloaded it the other day from your site, SmashingPumpkinsNexus.com.
00:46:53.000I can't wait to listen to the whole thing.
00:48:17.000Music, as you know, penetrates like, you know, typical stuff, which is why I'm able to go to countries where people don't even speak English and play music and communicate.
00:48:50.000They get caught funding radical racist black groups.
00:48:53.000They want us all killing each other, just like one of the singers That you know he just mentioned from Jamaica said they want to see us go on killing one another top ranking And that's of course Bob Marley.
00:49:07.000We're almost out of time I'm gonna let you go so you can get that plane or get on down the road Billy I hope you'll come down to Austin soon and come in studio Maybe I'll come up see you in Chicago, but I really know your interviews here resonate with everybody Again one more time the new album.
00:49:21.000Tell us what the name of the album means monuments to an elegy.
00:49:33.000I just wanted to do some inside baseball with that.
00:49:36.000You know, to me, it's a bit of a kind of a wave goodbye to what people thought the band was.
00:49:40.000And, you know, I'm just trying to move on into the future.
00:49:44.000And, you know, thankfully, with people like you, new media like you, creating these new systems, I'm able to speak freely and speak to an audience and just, you know, try to find like-minded souls.
00:50:08.000Well, it's happening and, you know, as you said, we need to support artists, whether it was in Nazi Germany or whether it was in any other totalitarian regime, Pol Pot, Kermit Rush, they would kill 95% of the artists, even ones that served them.
00:50:27.000through art, through images, that communication of archetypes that artists have innately.
00:50:31.000You don't even know what you're doing.
00:50:33.000You just do it, and it reaches people.
00:50:34.000They are scared of that, and that's what the tyrants are, is little men behind the curtain who want to run the whole show and really, I guess, don't feel loved or liked.
00:50:43.000They feel rejected, so they want to dominate.
00:50:45.000Billy, I'll say bye to you during the break.
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00:53:31.000But then I started hearing government media types talking about making guns illegal, about the president signing on to a UN treaty that could take my gun rights away.
00:55:27.000I was telling Buckley earlier, I had one cup of coffee this morning, but I worked out for like an hour and a half doing deadlifts and heavyweight, and I remember why in high school I started doing that.
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00:57:14.000And it helps fund this operation that the system wants to shut down and is fighting greedily, tooth and nail to do so, and failing, by the grace of God.
00:57:21.000No weapon formed against us shall prosper.
00:57:23.000If it is in the big universal combine, let that not happen.
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00:58:25.000Because we do have some magic moments here on air with our guests, our researchers, myself.
00:58:29.000Sometimes I'm quite poignant and bring up some really salient points.
00:58:33.000The rest of the time it sounds like a gibbering redneck turned up like a chipmunk or something.
01:00:45.000William Benny is joining us coming up.
01:00:50.000After the next break, former head of technology at the NSA.
01:00:57.000He was one of the directors of the NSA, and we're going to really do something special here.
01:01:02.000He doesn't do a lot of interviews, does like the London Guardian, things like that.
01:01:06.000He's been on with the Yours Truly twice, I think David Knight two or three other times, and he's going to come on and give us the latest on the Panopticon spy grid.
01:01:17.000He's going to come on and give us the latest on the police state, and we're going to open the phones up then at the bottom of the hour for your concise Focus please, question directly to the biggest NSA whistleblower out there, way beyond Snowden.
01:01:34.000They tried to indict him, they tried to set him up, they tried to put him in jail.
01:03:19.000And we'll go over all of this with William Benny coming up.
01:03:24.000And then, after he's gone, we'll have open phones yet again.
01:03:29.000And I want to ask the listeners, what do we do about the Republican Party and the former President Bush, one and two, 41 and 43, running around saying how much they love Bill running around saying how much they love Bill Clinton?
01:03:49.000This blue-blood Rockefeller Republican traipsing arrogantly in our faces when there's a political realignment.
01:03:58.000Can't we get rid of Jeb and Hillary in our political process?
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01:10:16.000William Benny, he's just four miles from Fort Meade, headquarters of the NSA, where he was the technical leader and director for intelligence with the NSA before becoming where he was the technical leader and director for intelligence with the NSA before becoming After more than 30 years with the agency, Benny...
01:10:40.000It's been described as one of the most prolific and best analysts and codebreakers in NSA history.
01:10:46.000Benny continues to speak out about the NSA's illegal data collection policies and continues interviews in the media regarding his experiences and communications intercepts by government agencies of American citizens.
01:10:58.000In a legal case, Benny has testified in an affidavit that the NSA is in deliberate violation of the US Constitution.
01:11:06.000ExposedFacts.org, Whistleblower.org, and he's part of the government accountability movement, and we really appreciate him spending so much time with us.
01:11:17.000This is his, I guess, fifth visit with InfoWars, his third visit on this radio show.
01:11:24.000Remember, they would always say the NSA was not spying on American citizens, and talking to a lot of other whistleblowers and people from Wayne Madsen right through, for all intents and purposes, that was the case.
01:11:59.000So you go to jail for espionage if you go spy on the CIA or NSA.
01:12:05.000But if they do it, oh well, it's okay.
01:12:08.000And I asked Mr. Binney what he wanted to get into first, and it's the fact that the courts have been rubber stamping this.
01:12:17.000I mean, there won't even be a need for courts soon with all this.
01:12:21.000And, you know, they've caught with parallel construction, these other agencies like the DEA, creating fake investigations to claim they got evidence one way when they got illegally another.
01:12:31.000And then these agencies have all been caught planting evidence.
01:12:35.000Physically at the crime lab, at the FBI.
01:12:37.000We've had the former head of the crime lab on, Dr. Whitehurst, many times.
01:12:57.000I want him to get into the biggest threats, the breaking news, how private industry is part of this, ways we can try to stop this.
01:13:04.000And then I want to open the phones up, we'll give out a hashtag here in a few minutes, where you can tweet at RealAlexJones on Twitter.
01:13:11.000And you can then send your questions in that I'll also read on air for William Benny.
01:13:17.000But I'll give the number out coming up in about 20 minutes, and that's your chance, we'd love to hear from you, to call in with a quick question or comment for William Benny.
01:13:35.000Get into what's happening with these judges.
01:13:38.000Well, see, it's basically a continuation of what's happened in the Supreme Court.
01:13:46.000When the government gets boxed into a corner where they're threatened by the test of a constitutionality of any of the programs they're running, they lie to the courts.
01:13:54.000And the courts are letting them get away with it.
01:13:56.000For example, in Amnesty International v. Clapper, that case, that case was at the Supreme Court when the Solicitor General lied to the court saying that Well, if any NSA data was going to be used against an individual, either in court or anywhere else, that the individual would be told so that they could contest the, basically, it's the right to contest discovery that is of information that is libelous or otherwise criminal, implying criminal activity on the part of the individual.
01:14:30.000Even when we talked to the President's Civil Liberties Oversight Board, Several months ago, we talked about it and raised that issue, and they said, well, from now on, all the people where that data is being used will be told.
01:15:16.000And the courts seem to be going along with it.
01:15:18.000That is, if I were on the Supreme Court and the Solicitor General did that to me and I found out about it, the first thing I would do would be to reinstate that case back in the court.
01:15:28.000I mean, after all, you don't permit perjury to let you get rid of a genuine concern of the public.
01:16:43.000They know the Fourth Amendment says you don't have data.
01:16:45.000The government doesn't have data on a U.S.
01:16:47.000citizen unless You state the citizen's name, the data you're after, and also show probable cause of why you're going at it, and where you're going to get it.
01:16:56.000Now, all that, none of that is happening with the hundreds of millions of U.S.
01:17:00.000citizens that they're collecting data on.
01:17:42.000And they wanted, and they had people spying on them right and left, you know, even your neighbors would spy on you.
01:17:46.000Well, that's what's happening internally in NSA now.
01:17:48.000They're talking about having people say, if you see something, say something.
01:17:52.000That's the kind of thing they're talking about internally in NSA now.
01:17:56.000Well, I mean, you know, that's, that's the Stasi in spades.
01:18:00.000I mean, Tom Drake was over in Germany a year or two ago and he met up with an older couple, an older German couple, and they said to him, they said, well, you know, we, we the Germans, we are a post-fascist state and we know it.
01:18:19.000But you, you are, you are in fact a pre-fascist state and don't even know that.
01:18:26.000So, I mean, the point is we have to wake up here.
01:18:30.000What do you do, though, when you're faced with true tyranny?
01:18:32.000This is classical tyranny, not just with the warrantless, ubiquitous, omnipresent spy grid, but the fact that major corporations have lined up to seamlessly Trojan horse surveillance into every device, into our cars, tax by the miles coming out.
01:18:51.000All the smart meters, spying, all the new appliances with the former CIA director bragging that your washing machine will listen to you.
01:18:59.000This is already going on and it's becoming ubiquitous and then it's being used illegally and it's being used to rig markets, rig the stock market.
01:19:10.000I mean this is really a 21st century takeover.
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01:25:13.000Your chance to talk to a very honorable person, in my view, who has a lot of courage and sacrificed their career to try to defend our republic.
01:25:22.000And who worked at the NSA trying to defend us from foreign enemies, which is what it was set up for.
01:25:27.000William, what about the morale at the NSA, from your view, and what about your former colleagues?
01:25:34.000A, and then B, tell folks a little bit about the persecution you've gone through, just to understand the level of tyranny we're dealing with.
01:25:43.000Well, I think I don't talk directly to anybody that works at NSA still, simply because if I did, you know, I'm a target, I have been for quite a while, so they would of course be targeted by the FBI and interrogated by FBI and Internal Security at NSA, so I don't do that to them.
01:26:04.000I know that they've instituted programs that get agency employees to spy on one another, which simply means that it's just like East Germany.
01:26:15.000I mean, your neighbors are spying on you, and here it's your neighbors you're working with and trying to do the job.
01:26:43.000It destroys initiative and so on because nobody wants to do anything for fear that somebody will think it's something wrong and so they'll get informed on and be interrogated.
01:26:51.000That's the way it was in East Germany.
01:26:53.000That's why their whole society stagnated.
01:26:55.000So that's a real counterproductive process for them to set up.
01:26:59.000And I know internally that People from, who have retired from NSA, come through the retirement chain, we get the word back from them, saying basically that there's an awful lot of people there are kind of upset at what they're doing, at spying on domestically.
01:27:16.000And so, but they're so afraid to do anything because they've looked at what they've done to us.
01:27:22.000Which gets into your following point there.
01:27:25.000They, in order to try to silence anybody from objecting internally in NSA, What they did was they threatened us with persecution and up to 35 years in jail, using the 1917 Espionage Act, which we at the time were simply, we were all staying at the point.
01:27:47.000The only one who was outside the government complaining about it was Tom Drake, and he was talking to the Baltimore Sun, but he didn't release anything classified, and that was agreed to by the government in court.
01:28:00.000So they were really coming after us just to shut us down from exposing the corruption, fraud, waste, abuse that was going on, as well as all of the unconstitutional activity.
01:28:13.000And they used the FBI first to raid us and take all our property and threaten us with guns, some of us directly.
01:28:21.000And the follow-on was the Department of Justice used all their power to try to indict us and put us in jail so that we would be out of sight and out of mind permanently, so to speak.
01:28:49.000Well, it's really strange to be coming out of your shower in the morning and have somebody pointing a gun at you, so you look at the end of a barrel of a pistol as you're coming out of the shower, having no idea why they're doing this to you.
01:29:05.000I mean, after all, we were trying to work within the government all the way up to then, but they just didn't want us doing it.
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01:36:42.000William Binning, I want to go to these calls.
01:36:44.000I want to have you be able to speak to any topic you wish, but to imagine you with all these commendations and medals you have, you know, called by Nightline and other operations one of the most successful code breakers and scientists ever helping defend this country against the soviets and terror groups and many others what is it like when you got raided
01:37:09.000go back to that and describe the persecution that goes on when you weren't even going public at that time to try to uh basically imply that you were a bad guy so they could disappear you down the road i I mean, if they can get William Benny, they can go after anybody.
01:37:26.000And then I want to get your view on Snowden, and he says that a revelation's coming out that would bring down the political system.
01:37:35.000Or he said, be careful, I have a revelation that would bring you down.
01:37:39.000Well, what type of revelation could that be, William Benny?
01:37:46.000Well, he may simply be talking about, like for example, CIA was spying on Feinstein's Intelligence Committee when they were preparing that report, again, on terror.
01:38:00.000The report she's trying to get out here recently.
01:38:02.000I think if they look a little closer, they'll find out that that spying is much more extensive than they even think.
01:38:08.000So, in other words, I think if they look fairly closely, I mean, Russ Tice has said this for several years now, that they have been spying on senators, House of Representatives, judges of the Supreme Court, even in the White House, and also generals and other federal judges and so on.
01:38:28.000So they're looking, they're spying, the spying network that we've created inside this country is actually spying on the leadership of this country, the ones that have power over them so that they know what their position is and can adjust accordingly, you know, and prepare for it.
01:38:43.000I mean, they're spying on everybody, our leadership in this country as well as everybody else on the planet.
01:38:48.000So this is an uncontrollable, these are uncontrollable agencies.
01:38:55.000They have no way of verifying anything they're doing and they let them continue that way, when in fact they should all stand up.
01:39:03.000The problem is, you don't know, and they don't know, the House of Representatives and Senators, they don't know what kind of evidence the intelligence community has accumulated about them and their activities.
01:39:15.000Is it something like J. Edgar Hoover had over the entire Congress.
01:39:20.000He used that power to... It was actually the power he had was that he may not have known anything about you, but you may think he did.
01:39:31.000But he certainly knew a lot about the leadership in Washington.
01:39:35.000Well, we also know those files were a form of internal governmental defamation and slander and libel because they were also filled with disinformation and garbage.
01:39:56.000That plus, in our case, at least in the cases that we had, we knew they were fabricating data.
01:40:03.000And in Tom Drake's case, when they indicted him, the data that they had there was fabricated.
01:40:11.000It was retroactively classified, and then he was charged for having classified material.
01:40:15.000Well, I mean, that's like I mean, that's a felony, and these people should go to jail for that.
01:40:22.000Even Thomas Tam, back in 2003, when he was the lawyer in the Department of Justice that was the source of the New York Times article on warrantless wiretapping, and his job at the Department of Justice was to prepare the warrant request for the FISA court, the secret court.
01:40:43.000And so when he was going through that, he was discovering that they had wiretaps already on people that they hadn't gone through the FISA court to get.
01:40:50.000Well, that by definition or by law at the time was a violation.
01:41:15.000Wasn't that really part of a larger parallel construction where they only go get the warrant later once they want to go back and claim that they got the information with a warrant?
01:41:24.000Yeah, that was all part of that and that had been going on since at least 2001.
01:41:33.000And Director Mueller of the FBI said they were using that program, Stellar Wind, which is the domestic spying program.
01:41:40.000He said they were using it since 9-11 in 2001, which is October, which is when they created the name Stellar Wind.
01:41:49.000William Binney, Top NSA Whistleblowers, our guest.
01:41:52.000I mean, I'm just a layperson, but correct me if I'm wrong.
01:41:55.000A, when you start snooping on everybody, you create giant troughs of information that could be stolen, hacked, or taken.
01:42:03.000B, you're focusing on so much that you miss the real threats.
01:42:08.000That are specific and can be tracked and focused in on.
01:42:11.000So you blind yourself in a way having too much data.
01:42:14.000It's like having a billion phone messages.
01:42:15.000You can't listen to any of them basically.
01:42:18.000And then C, and I think this is probably the most important, it creates a whole system of blackmail domestically and will convert you to a tyranny.
01:42:31.000It's already come out for decades they use The NSA, the British NSA, GCHQ, to spy on Parliament.
01:42:40.000And now they're using all this data on each other and it just, I mean, why would the political elite create such a thing and think that they could control it?
01:43:02.000I mean, that's just human nature to have that happen.
01:43:05.000So, I mean, you know, it's only a matter of time, like you say, as to how long it's going to take them to take advantage of all the data they've gotten.
01:43:14.000I mean, it's just a very bad situation and a very bad path that we've chosen to take here down the dark side with Dick Cheney.
01:43:23.000Sometimes you gotta work on the dark side, to quote Dick Cheney.
01:43:31.000And they've taught so many people in public school and in colleges and TV that, oh, if you don't have anything to hide, don't worry about it.
01:43:51.000I see them almost as a bigger threat now because they're all in a race with government to be the ultimate spy.
01:43:58.000I mean, isn't Google really the ultimate spy in the final equation?
01:44:03.000I think part of the problem with their mining of Gmail is getting close to what the government's doing, but they don't have the resources.
01:44:12.000Part of the problem is that Google doesn't have all the data access that the NSA does, for example.
01:44:18.000NSA can get into any business activity like banking or travel or anything like that, and Google doesn't really have access to all of that.
01:44:26.000It also doesn't have access to all the emails.
01:44:28.000They have a good number, but they don't have all of them.
01:44:32.000And they don't also have the cooperation of other companies around the world and corporations to give them the wiretaps to get the transactional relationships between people.
01:44:55.000And the point is that Google and companies do not have the power that government does when it comes to arresting people or, you know, putting them in jail or fabricating evidence or framing them like they've tried to do to us.
01:45:09.000So, I mean, there's quite a bit of difference between government and, at least in terms of power and capability.
01:45:20.000I want to go to some phone calls for William Benny here and also go through this huge list of Twitter questions that we have.
01:45:27.000Let's go ahead and talk to Joseph in Texas.
01:45:31.000Joseph, you're on the air with William Benny.
01:45:37.000I wanted to call in and talk to you guys about, I'm a hairdresser in Dallas and I had a client for a little while this year who was, he was the VP for the manufacturer that created the MSA Center in Utah.
01:45:51.000And, uh, he gave me a lot of, uh, you know, he told me as much as I guess he could about, uh, when they were building it and, um, about this data center.
01:45:59.000And, uh, I also have another friend of mine who just recently met who's, uh, he works with AT&T on the neural networks collecting the data.
01:46:05.000So, um, I wanted to ask some questions, uh, and just see if, you know, I could get an answer from him.
01:46:11.000Um, I was basically told just, uh, that the, uh, the NSA data center, you know, that was, that, that, you know, they were spying on, You know, everything from our cell phones to our banks, everything, connecting it all.
01:46:24.000You know, and after I heard that, I actually heard a documentary with, you know, from, it was like the Operation Stellar Wind documentary, and so I just wanted to hear about that.
01:46:36.000Yeah, that's the whole point of why they had to build Bluffdale with all that storage.
01:46:41.000I mean, it wasn't for metadata, it was for content of communications, you know, like all of your emails and phone conversation recordings and transcripts and things like that.
01:46:53.000The point is, if you wanted to put together all of the relationships of everybody in the world on metadata relationships and build those kind of, what they're called, graphs, or simply social networks of everybody in every domain, phone calls, emails, banking, all of that, then you could do that and store it in a room 20 foot by 40 foot.
01:47:14.000That's all it would take to store all the relationships in all the domains of everybody in the world.
01:47:20.000So, and you could keep it there for, I mean, You know, 50 years, perhaps, something like that.
01:47:26.000And so the real point was the hundreds of thousands of square feet of storage was needed for the content.
01:48:48.000Do you have any information on geoengineering, climate manipulation?
01:48:53.000Well, I would think that that's one of the things.
01:48:55.000They're certainly monitoring all kinds of research done around the world.
01:49:00.000For example, one of the best ways to find out who's working on quantum computing Is to, for example, go to a quantum computing conference around the world and just go around and collect business cards.
01:49:14.000And you find that that sets up a community and then you work the transactional relationships you're getting across the network to build their social network of who they're working with to work on quantum computing.
01:49:25.000And I'm sure they would do the same thing for any kind of climate alterations and so on.
01:49:30.000I mean, any kind of serious Thank you so much.
01:49:35.000research that's going on that would have implications on a wider scale, they certainly would be monitoring just to watch to make sure they knew what was happening.
01:49:53.000It's funny, Mr. Benny, you mentioned about collecting business cards and going to those conferences, that caller that mentioned geoengineering.
01:50:14.000The NSA is trying to attract children through their Change the World program, which includes solving fun puzzles and exploring the world of cryptology.
01:50:26.000I think that's kind of cute with the Change the World program.
01:50:31.000You know, it's quite clear bureaucracies and totalitarian agencies like the NSA are using blackmail to their advantage.
01:50:42.000My question is how deep does that rabbit hole go?
01:50:45.000And I spoke to someone who's a contractor in Colorado Springs last week who told me there's a lot of movement from these types of agencies moving towards Colorado Springs and other parts of the world.
01:50:57.000Sure, that's where the alternate government's based.
01:51:01.000But blackmail, you already spoke to that, but what else can you tell us about blackmail, William Benning?
01:51:07.000Well, the problem, of course, is that once you have all that data, that's the power that that data gives you.
01:51:12.000I mean, if you have information like... Let me use an example.
01:51:16.000I was on the Eliot Spitzer Show on Current TV when he was on the show there.
01:51:21.000And, you know, he was, I mean, he never told me this, but I've been inferenced it to him.
01:51:27.000I mean, he was after the bankers after the 2008 banking fiasco, and a lot of people lost a lot of money there, and that was because of fraudulent solicitations by the banks, passing around packaged mortgage groups and things like that, you know?
01:51:44.000And so he was going after them criminally.
01:51:47.000He was, I think, the governor of New York State at the time.
01:51:50.000And as a part of that, why all of a sudden the FBI was going through all of his emails and my financial transactions and so on and they found where he was engaged with a prostitute and they used that to get rid of him.
01:52:09.000So, the point is that the FBI didn't even show probable cause for why they were doing it.
01:52:14.000The probable cause was they wanted him stopping, they didn't want him criminally prosecuting the bankers in Wall Street.
01:52:24.000And so, the people who did that, I mean, Muir was the director of FBI at the time, and Alexander was the director of NSA.
01:52:32.000So the FBI went into the database of emails That Mueller testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee that he had access to.
01:52:41.000Back in the 30th of March of 2011, he testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee that he had access to this database where he could make a query and get all past and all future emails as they came in on a person.
01:52:51.000Well, I mean, when the FBI goes into all those back emails, I mean, looking at data, for example, against Petraeus, I mean, Elliot Spitzer to get rid of him.
01:53:01.000Well, then they were the ones who helped the bankers out to keep them out of trouble.
01:53:07.000So then you have Mueller and Alexander, after they retire, and they're selling their expertise in cybersecurity.
01:53:17.000A rate of $600,000 a month or something like that.
01:53:20.000Originally it started at a million, but now they're selling that to, I believe, the last I heard it was the bankers.
01:53:26.000Well, you know, to me, when I took contract law into government, I mean, one of the first things you made sure you did not do was to give the appearance of a conflict of interest.
01:53:36.000Now that sure smells like a conflict of interest.
01:53:38.000Sure, you've got a select group of banks that control the Federal Reserve, that already issue and control the currency.
01:53:43.000Now they're using the NSA that they helped government build to domestically target everybody, steal data, corner the markets, and just take everything over.
01:53:52.000And get rid of people who are trying to hold you accountable.
01:54:00.000Ex-ZackTamount asks, that's his Twitter name, asks William Benny, what does Mr. Benny think about people waking up to spying but also the smart TVs that, for those who don't know, Samsung admits that they quote record what you say in your house and send it to third parties for quote marketing.
01:54:20.000What do you think of just the main lining of total spying?
01:54:25.000I mean, for me, that is an intrusion, an unauthorized intrusion, and it's a felony, and they should be charged criminally with it.
01:54:35.000Kavik on Twitter asks, how closely does Canada's CSE work with the NSA, or is it more a data sharing agreement?
01:55:06.000is called first party, and the other four are called second party.
01:55:10.000That was the closest relationship in history in World War II.
01:55:13.000They worked together jointly on breaking Enigma codes and also the Japanese Purple Code and the JN-25 Naval Code.
01:55:24.000And those relationships only expanded from there, and the cooperation has been very close.
01:55:30.000It's the closest cooperating group of countries in the world.
01:55:35.000Mikhail Phelan, Infowars.com writer, at Mikhail Phelan on Twitter asks, others have mentioned power struggle between the NSA and other intel groups such as the CIA.
01:55:52.000I mean, even before 9-11, I mean, that was part of the, I think, the 9-11 Commission's report, was they need to work a little closer and be a little less rivalry, kind of.
01:56:03.000The point is that there are certain charters that these agencies have, like the CIA's to do HUMINT, the NSA's to do SIGINT, signals intelligence.
01:56:14.000And they jealously guard their charters.
01:56:16.000And if they come up with information in their areas, that's like knowledge they have that they can directly provide to senior leadership, the president, and so on for decision making.
01:56:26.000So that gives them the sense that they have greater influence in the government and what it does and what the president would decide to do by being able to control or to have the most significant intelligence information to present.
01:56:44.000So that creates a rivalry between the agencies and that's been going on for decades.
01:57:06.000A rivalry between these agencies is one that is a fundamental flaw that destroys some of the capabilities that they should have in terms of sharing knowledge so that everybody can be leveraging the same set of information.
01:57:22.000William Benny, we have another question for you from Twitter.
01:57:44.000And those recommendations, the two primary points in those recommendations, one was to do To force NSA to make a directed selection of information on known targets and things in a zone of suspicion defined around it.
01:58:02.000So that would mean that they would only pull in maybe, they would let 99.99999% of the data pass by and only pull out and store that data that was relevant to targets that they were after.
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02:00:32.000Also have to work sort of the dark side, if you will.
02:00:47.000We've got to spend time in the shadows, in the intelligence world.
02:00:51.000A lot of what needs to be done here will have to be done quietly, without any discussion, using sources and methods that are available to our intelligence agencies, if we're going to be successful.
02:01:01.000That's the world these folks operate in.
02:01:05.000So it's going to be vital for us to use any means at our disposal, basically, to achieve our objectives.
02:01:11.000And now Al Qaeda is bigger than it's ever been and it's renamed ISIS and our own government funded it and William Binney was beginning to get into 9-11 and I've had Colonel Schaefer on, I've had Seibel Edmonds on, I've had the translators, the colonels, I've had so many angles of this covering classified and unclassified information and leaked information that we know they knew about 9-11 and bare minimum stood down
02:01:40.000Six of the ten commissioners have said that.
02:01:43.000William Binney, without giving out any classified information, obviously, what can you tell us about 9-11?
02:01:50.000Well, it's more like after we left NSA because of the domestic spying, Tom Drake, who was still there working, ran a program we were developing to On the entire database in NSA.
02:02:08.000And he found all the data that was necessary to stop 9-11 in their databases prior to 9-11.
02:02:15.000Which simply meant, very simply put, that they could easily have stopped 9-11 if they were doing smart things.
02:02:23.000But what was driving them at the time?
02:02:25.000Well, it was a matter of getting more and more money and building a bigger budget.
02:02:29.000And that's really what their emphasis was on.
02:02:32.000So they weren't trying to do smart things, they were trying to do things that would build their empire.
02:02:39.000And that, to me, is why I keep saying every time I give a talk anywhere, I keep saying they traded the security of the people of the United States and of the world for money.
02:02:54.000multi-million dollar purchases from big tech firms for their supercomputers and fiber-optic and cables and you end up getting nice president jobs a few years later with that revolving door it just turns into a giant boondoggle yeah that's that incestuous relationship that exists between government officials and private industry that close relationship building between them so that they can move from one
02:03:24.000One senior executive job in government to a senior executive job in industry.
02:03:29.000What do you think about moves to cut off electricity and the water supply in Utah to the data center?
02:03:36.000Well, I mean, they could certainly try to do that, but I would think that they would call up the National Guard, nationalize things, and go in and make sure that they could continue to keep the power going.
02:03:50.000To me, the more important way to attack this problem is to go after them legally by the voting and by getting rid of them and firing their worthless personages from Congress.
02:04:03.000Well, you would think that they would be rolling this back with all the lies coming out and that they were deceptive and they're using it against Congress, but instead, like you said, they're just getting the courts lined up to legalize it.
02:04:14.000Right, and they're feeling more confident because some of the judges are getting behind them and backing it.
02:04:20.000And I think that's through fear as well.
02:04:23.000You never know what kind of blackmail they have on those judges because of the collection of data they've got.
02:04:28.000The word is, is that Justice Roberts was being blackmailed on the Obamacare situation.
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02:09:35.000They are using the NSA and other agencies to target the general public.
02:09:41.000It's a weird feeling when I went to cover Bilderberg and they had plainclothes Marines threatening us, flipping us off, pulling dirty tricks on us, and it later came out and was confirmed that their diplomatic security corps was there.
02:09:57.000They had been trained, the Marines, officers, officers all, some of them like 45 years old, to harass peaceful journalists that they knew were peaceful.
02:10:11.000This is the government we built and paid for being turned against us, and the press is being persecuted.
02:10:17.000It's just, it's clear where this is going.
02:10:20.000We're not troublemakers up here just, just to say, oh come on, it's all been proven.
02:10:26.000William Benny, before we take some final calls, what do you think hurts the NSA most?
02:10:30.000Because the fact that they lied and denied they were spying on citizens in non-terror related cases, and the fact that it's now come out, I mean, is that the biggest blow to the NSA?
02:10:41.000And where do you think this fight's going?
02:10:44.000Actually, I don't think... In the long run, I don't think it's been a blow to them.
02:10:48.000I think they got it to the point where they simply don't care what the public thinks.
02:11:03.000That is the thing that would hurt them.
02:11:05.000That's why they got so nervous about Representatives Amos and Conyers and their coalition group to unfund NSA last July.
02:11:13.000I mean, I don't think I told you this on the programs before, but I was scheduled to brief that coalition prior to them voting on unfunding NSA.
02:11:28.000And when they posted that on the congressional record that I was coming down there to testify to them, Uh, what happened was that President Obama called a meeting of all the members of the House, all the House Democratic members at the same time, so that basically killed that meeting.
02:11:47.000And so that was delayed, but we never rescheduled, so they never got to, and then they had to vote on it, and they lost the vote because of lobbying by the President and also General Alexander, heavy lobbying to try to stop it, they lost by 12 votes.
02:12:01.000But that was pretty good from a first, uh, from a first cut.
02:12:05.000I mean, the basic motivation that started all this was the fact that they began to realize that they weren't being told the truth by the intelligence committees or by the agencies or by the White House, so that they were being lied to all along.
02:12:27.000Hi, I think there might have been a mistake there.
02:12:29.000I'm actually calling from FEMA Region 5, but I just kind of wanted to talk to Mr. Benny about what he thought about the racial divide that they're bringing up to kind of distract us from what's going on with the NSA.
02:12:49.000It's a standard thing that a dictator does.
02:12:51.000When you are having internal problems in your country, you create an external threat.
02:12:57.000So in this case, what they're doing is creating other threats or other conflicts to deflect interest and focus away from core issues that are fundamental to everything we do.
02:13:13.000Yeah, I think it's funny that the issues like Ebola and ISIS have also been kind of swept under the rug and no one wants to focus on that, but they sure want to focus on the race issue of what exactly what they want us to focus on.
02:14:09.000Is it been possible, like for a long time, that the NSA has the capability and technology to actually watch, for example, somebody walking down a street?
02:14:24.000You know, like, what do you call that?
02:14:28.000Sir, let me tell you, since you're hesitating.
02:14:31.000They have satellites with infrared and other things that can track people in real time.
02:14:35.000They're tied into a lot of the cameras nationwide that have face scanning software on them.
02:16:05.000You know, see this has been my major contention that the domestic spying, the reason they're doing it is not because of terrorism, it's because it's for law enforcement and internal security.
02:16:16.000Domestic security, that's what they're doing it for.
02:16:19.000That's the main, that gives them, see when they look around after 9-11 they have to look around for a A customer set.
02:16:27.000What would be the biggest customer set they could go in for?
02:16:30.000That would be law enforcement because it involves local law enforcement, state and federal law enforcement everywhere as well as all around the world with other law enforcement.
02:16:38.000And then you set up threat fusion centers where you slowly see which cops will go along with illegal spying and then you recruit them in.
02:16:44.000Last year I was at Barton Springs, a big public natural spring.
02:16:48.000There were three cops, well three male cops and three female I think they were all police or in criminal justice.
02:16:57.000They were all laying out talking about how they were going back to get more courses because two of them already worked at the NSA Center in San Antonio and all the rest of them wanted jobs there and how great it was and how powerful they were.
02:17:18.000And then back last year in August, I think it was, Reuters published that article about parallel construction and they did an interview with one of the federal agents involved in looking at the NSA data and doing parallel constructions and things like that.
02:17:32.000And he said, this is such a great program, I just hope we can keep it secret.
02:17:39.000Yeah, that's our secret government in operation.
02:17:41.000How about I come to their house and watch them in bed and read their email?
02:17:54.000Mr. Binney, you mentioned that the NSA might come in with the National Guard to nationalize resources in Utah if that state turns off the water.
02:18:05.000My question is, does this mean that the NSA is, in fact, reliant on resources that are provided at the state and local levels, and that if we can't get the Congress to do anything, this might be a last-ditch effort to put a chokehold on them and stop what they're doing?
02:18:23.000I mean, I would advocate hitting your state and local government employees and making sure that they stand up and resist this, and also hit all your people and representatives in Congress.
02:18:35.000And then if they don't start going along, we need to have a unified effort to fire them, get rid of them.
02:18:41.000I mean, I'm not normally for just standard civil disobedience, and I agree with what Mr. Benny's saying in general, but the state Triggering a constitutional crisis, blocking water, cutting off electricity, force the National Guard in to restore the water and the power, to draw attention to it.
02:19:00.000I think these are the type of stunts we need to start seeing be pulled.
02:19:03.000I think the state government could do that, but I wouldn't advocate individuals taking action.
02:19:20.000It is time to have state governments peacefully start moving with injunctions and kind of like Texas is suing over Obamacare with 17 other states.
02:19:30.000Or like I think we talked about in an earlier program that they could have a constitutional convention where the states would hold it and keep everybody in D.C.
02:19:39.000out of it and then modify the constitution and operate from that.
02:19:49.000In my view, that's exactly what we have.
02:19:51.000Yeah, it's like you come back from being on vacation, your employees have changed the locks, they're telling you that it's their business, their house, and they have no legal standing, but they got a bunch of guns.
02:20:01.000And they're just staring at us, telling us we're terrorists, and then we don't confront them, we go home and try to figure out how to be peaceful, and then they send a SWAT team to our home and get us out of the shower.
02:20:45.000Mr. Benny, I just had to dish out a little bit of gratitude to yourself and obviously Alex Jones for bringing up this kind of stuff and this media operation for years and exposing kind of what's going on.
02:20:57.000And now it seems that it's an agreement.
02:20:59.000It's the consensus among the Republic.
02:21:01.000among the public in this republic that were being spied on illegally, that these judges are being, you know, basically with inside baseball blackmailed and the changing laws and the rest of it.
02:21:14.000And I was just curious what you would advise people, and I know I'm not asking just for myself.
02:21:24.000I'm asking on behalf of others that I talk to that don't feel that this rogue government, and we can all agree it's a real government.
02:21:33.000We don't believe it can be put back together.
02:21:35.000The Humpty Dumpty is broken and can't be put back together again.
02:21:41.000Well, I would say that there are ways, we have some ways to try to help save and salvage our country.
02:21:48.000And one of the primary ways is to get active in politics and stand up and make sure you're, if you're going to elect somebody as a representative, that they stand up and defend the Constitution and the founding principles of this country.
02:22:01.000That's something that the current crop of people we have down there in Washington aren't doing right now.
02:22:06.000They're violating every way they possibly can.
02:22:09.000And they're getting everybody they possibly can to support what they're doing and cover up for them.
02:22:13.000That's right, they're circling the wagons to use The whistleblowers and the political awakening is a way to actually legitimize this giant usurpation of our basic freedoms.
02:22:24.000And if we don't start backing them off at this point, the sky's the limit.
02:22:28.000We've already basically reached the sky.
02:22:55.000But the funding comes out of the Department of Defense.
02:22:58.000So the Department of Defense slices out a set of funding for them specifically.
02:23:03.000But it's under, since the FISA laws, they now have committees overseeing them and overseeing their budgets.
02:23:10.000But those committees have been basically usurped and are basically advocates for these agencies.
02:23:16.000And they tend to support them no matter what, which means that their committees get to manage larger budgets as the agencies themselves grow.
02:23:25.000So, from their perspective, they look at that as a positive contribution, when in fact they should be standing up for our rights and stopping these people under the FISA law alone.
02:23:35.000That was the reason the Church Committee said.
02:23:37.000That's what the Church Committee came up with.
02:23:38.000That's what they said, and this is how we're going to try to set up checks and balances.
02:23:42.000Well, those checks and balances Over time, they've proven to just outright fail.
02:23:48.000I mean, the vice courts are rubber-stamped.
02:23:50.000The intelligence committees are advocates for the agencies to do domestic spying, when in fact they were created.
02:23:57.000Their founding principles for the creation of those were to prevent spying agencies in the United States from spying on United States citizens domestically.
02:24:11.000It is a criminal big brother revolution by bureaucrats and corporate and government interest to openly execute fraud upon us until it becomes common law precedent.
02:24:24.000And it is just over the top they're getting away with it.
02:24:31.000Well, folks, we are basically out of time with our guest, William Benny.
02:24:38.000We've got Chris, John, Truth Raider, Frank, and many others holding.
02:24:41.000I'll try to answer your questions as best I can.
02:24:45.000Mr. Benny, people constantly say, where are the whistleblowers?
02:24:48.000Where are good people in government, good people in corporations?
02:24:51.000Well, whether it's John Perkins, who was an economic hitman for big banks, or whether it's Colonel Schaeffer, or General Benton K. Parton, or countless other people, we have had on this broadcast, Tosh Plumley, Silica Steel, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds.
02:25:11.000Whistleblowers from state, federal, international level.
02:25:15.000Wolfgang Wardog, the head of the EU vaccine program, admitting the vaccines are tainted.
02:25:20.000I mean, the truth is, we actually have more people in major corporations and governments that do go public, and then the public doesn't get behind them, or listens to mainstream media demonizing them, to the point of now, Where they're arresting and persecuting the press, not just people that internally blew the whistle and gave up your career heading up a major agency.
02:25:42.000I mean, it's just, I think it's the immorality and the laziness of the American people that at the end of the day is allowing this.
02:25:51.000I don't think we are the progenitors of it, but we're the people that allow it.
02:25:56.000And as Eric Hoffer said, propaganda does not deceive people, it merely helps them deceive themselves.
02:26:43.000Well, yeah, you're pointing out the some of the some of the Some of the very short-sighted, finite thinking that people went through when they first decided to do these kinds of things.
02:26:53.000And I start with Cheney and his dark side business.
02:26:56.000Instead of focusing on doing the intelligence business and the military business in a focused, disciplined way, he went on a scatter approach.
02:27:07.000Let's go after everything and do everything we possibly can to ensure we get information.
02:27:12.000Well, I mean, it's been shown for a long time by any numbers of There's studies and examples, testimony from various people that torture doesn't work, and if you torture people, they'll tell you anything you want them to tell you.
02:27:24.000And so what that means is you need to do a disciplined approach, and I think the FBI had at one point, anyway, they were thinking that torture was not the way to go either, and that there were other ways to get the information and get it reliably.
02:27:39.000And certainly we knew from the Siggins business that that was true.
02:28:25.000Modern Jungle, just like the jungle exposed child labor and the Rockefeller factories, I think your book or another big whistleblower book, not so much getting into the spying even, but just the response to it could be made into a film, you name it, and things like that will turn around our society.
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02:34:56.000But the UN makes them all look like angels.
02:35:01.000And it says they've been orphaned, kidnapped, tortured, recruited, raped, and even sold as slaves!
02:35:08.000The same New York Times two years ago admitted that the U.N.
02:35:10.000in the Congo was going in and killing whole villages of people that wouldn't leave their own ancestral land because they had promised it as a carbon sink under the U.N.
02:35:21.000Oh, you can have mines over here for big corporations, but there has to be an offset now.
02:35:26.000This land can't have people on it, so we're going to force you off.
02:35:29.000I mean, I remember, it had to be like 1998.
02:35:33.000If somebody's got National Geographics, you say, find it for me.
02:35:37.000I was like 98 because I covered it on air a bunch, maybe 99.
02:35:40.000It was articles about Burma and a couple of the places about UN buffer zones in those countries and it showed UN troops and it said they shoot anyone trying to come in, period.
02:35:55.000And how they'd run people off their ancestral lands there.
02:35:58.000I mean, I know that's on record, they did that.
02:35:59.000The UN reportedly killed tens of thousands in Burma alone.
02:36:01.000But there it was in an article about how good it was.
02:37:17.000Nothing against, you know, Entertainment for the Troops, or whatever.
02:37:20.000But it was founded by George Herbert Walker Bush's dad, Prescott Bush, when he was about to be indicted by the McCormick-Dickstein Committee, basically, for being the main Nazi collaborator, so he comes out with a thing for the troops!
02:37:34.000That's the thing about knowing history, is that it's so frustrating, you see one article like this, and then it makes you think of all the stuff they're doing, and it's always irritating to see the very people Involved in all this evil, posing as the good guys.
02:37:54.000Here's another one on the New York Times.
02:37:57.000Bush and CIA ex-officials rebut torture report.
02:38:01.000The new Senate report that's a whitewash admits the torture.
02:38:05.000The Democrats are just trying to score some political points.
02:38:09.000That's why the CIA was spying on them illegally.
02:38:12.000But it doesn't make Dianne Feinstein good that she's being spied on.
02:38:14.000See, it's just a ship of rats fighting with each other.
02:38:18.000But the issue here is, back when they thought they had America eating out of their hand, they admitted torture on television.
02:38:23.000Why, Jack Bauer tortured every night on 24.
02:38:32.000But they didn't torture somebody like, give us, you know, you capture a code, Expert who knows how the German code works show us how this machine works.
02:38:41.000We're gonna start chopping your fingers off What really works is we're gonna hunt your kids down in Germany and kill them We've got hit teams inside your country right now If you don't tell us that's bad enough, but that would work sometimes in an absolute emergency situation Where you know what you're going after and I'm against torture, but the claims that torture doesn't work It's not really completely true.
02:39:06.000What it really works for though is false confessions and to flip people over to be double agents and do whatever you want.
02:39:16.000That's what torture is really all about.
02:39:18.000And it's what tyrants do and upright countries don't do it.
02:39:21.000George Washington, if he caught his troops torturing, Because the British troops would torture to get intel.
02:39:53.000And that's one reason they ended up winning the public support and winning the war because there was a moral high ground that had to be attained.
02:40:02.000George Washington wasn't a wimp because he didn't torture and he didn't rape and didn't loot.
02:40:07.000He knew he had to have the moral high ground.
02:40:11.000Now he did sit down every morning and sign death warrants on traitors that were working with the British who would be assassinated.
02:40:26.000So, that's the difference, ladies and gentlemen, and it's a guarantee that we're going to Hades in a handbasket with all the garbage that's going on.
02:40:39.000And I've got three children, and I love them, and I want them to have a future with your children, and that's why we've got to turn this around.
02:40:50.000Now, there's a story up on DrugsReport.com.
02:40:58.000He launched profanity-laced tirades against the press.
02:41:01.000According to ABC News journalist Ann Compton, Barack Obama launched a profanity-laced tirades against the press in an off-the-record meeting with reporters.
02:41:18.000Now he has acid reflux and all that stuff.
02:41:20.000In a C-SPAN interview, Compton also derided the president for leading the most opaque, that means hard to see through administration, of any I have covered.
02:41:30.000And this is just the degeneration of government.
02:42:16.000One, profanity-laced, where he thought the press was making too much of scandals that he didn't think were scandals.
02:42:24.000Another, where he took us to task for not understanding the limits he has with foreign policy and the way he's dealing with the Middle East and Iraq and Afghanistan.
02:42:51.000But we cover what we are allowed to cover.
02:42:54.000And when policy decisions... And this is all about how the press is in a fight with him, and how she was there, and she's not going to let him bust her around.
02:43:26.000As soon as I'll have guests here in the break start telling me stuff off-the-record, I go, whoa, whoa, whoa.
02:43:30.000I go, I trust my crew, but this isn't really off-the-record.
02:43:33.000You got a bunch of people listening to this.
02:43:36.000And to watch them, all these swollen people, because they work for mainstream media, acting like, you know, they're sycophantic journalists and I'm not.
02:43:59.000I've interviewed scores of whistleblowers.
02:44:02.000And I'm just so sick of these sophistic, swollen, dishonorable pieces of trash up there about how they're a big journalist and they're on ABC News.
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02:48:48.000The point I wanted to ask, and I thought it would be appropriate for Mr. Binney, but I'm sure you will appreciate also, is the attorney's skill of the black arts word crafting.
02:48:59.000They seem to want to deem to term this Warrantless data that they obtained without any probable cause for future pro se executions is data instead of warrantless evidence that's being gleaned for future pro se executions.
02:49:39.000Well, it's designed to actually make us blind from real threats, because the globalists run those, while spying on good people in government.
02:49:46.000The main focus now is spying on good people.
02:49:50.000Imagine William Benny is secretly testifying to Congress, trying to fix things internally, the former head of the NSA, and they SWAT team him at his house when he's in the shower in the morning to mess with him.
02:50:05.000I mean, imagine being the FBI SWAT team.
02:50:20.000I mean, it's purely how out of control is the Justice Department and the Obama administration and all these agencies if they're arresting people like Drake and others?
02:50:31.000I mean, it's not like there's Snowden who ran to Russia to release the info.
02:50:36.000But see, what was Snowden supposed to do then?
02:50:38.000If they're arresting people for nothing, then he did the right thing.
02:50:44.000Well, I was just going to bring up the fact that Valerie Jenrette in the White House, who's never been vetted, is actually the Colonel Edwin Mandel House for this administration.
02:50:56.000You're right, and that's another thing.
02:50:58.000As long as you're with the system, you can leak intel everywhere, you can blabber.
02:51:01.000It's just, this country's in danger just for the incompetence of these crooks.
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02:55:37.000Yeah, so much of this crime going on, black on white, is the target of criminals who are having to be black as white because it's almost like that's an okay thing now.
02:55:48.000Just like, I've used the analogy or historical example of people that would beat up gay folks and rob them saying, well, they're gay, they deserve it.
02:56:26.000And if you are familiar with your history of Stauffenberg and the co-plotters, they had assembled a committee of German civilians to take over as soon as they got rid of Hitler and his henchmen.
02:57:47.000I mean, if the military took over and they convened the governors of the states to decide what to do, I mean, what would you do with Congress?
02:58:15.000Yeah, Alex, we just had an article in the Courier Journal about these, after all this Ferguson, New York City problems that we've been having, now the local police department here is all of a sudden going to get cameras on their chest.
02:58:26.000My question about these things that I'm concerned about, this is all digital database.
02:58:31.000Does that information go into those cameras?
02:58:34.000Yes, they are going to basically keep all of it, and I'm not against it overall.
02:58:39.000Problem is, cops just turn them off and say they malfunction when they feel like it.