On this episode of Crashing Through the Lies and Disinformation, Alex Jones is joined by Joe Biggs and the Guardian's Peter Bergen to discuss the revelation that Chicago police have a secret detention facility in their own back yards. They also discuss the recent events at CPAC and the political assassination of a prominent politician.
00:00:00.000You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.
00:00:03.000Crashing through the lies and disinformation, it's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:29.000Radio, radio, radio Welcome to the Alex Jones Show.
00:00:35.000I'm David Knight, your host on this Sunday, March 1st, 2015.
00:00:38.000I'm going to be joined by reporters live in Chicago at the site of the black site that has been discovered there and been reported on by the Guardian.
00:01:05.000Their local press is basically taking the side of the police.
00:01:08.000This is something that has roots in the war on drugs and it has influences on Gitmo.
00:01:14.000We can see pieces of where this country is going with the NDAA Act, the Indefinite Detention Act that Obama signed and then said, don't worry, I'm not going to actually do that.
00:01:25.000I'm not really going to detain people Without having them charged with anything, hold them indefinitely, without charge, without trial.
00:02:55.000Yeah, K Street, to lobbyists what Wall Street is to the stock market.
00:03:00.000That's where they bust people in from to support Jeb Bush.
00:03:03.000Of course, he didn't back down on immigration like Marco Rubio did.
00:03:08.000He doubled down on illegal immigrants, on the entitlements, on driver's licenses, on voting for illegal immigrants.
00:03:16.000This is the way he's going to get the nomination.
00:03:18.000He's going to run to the statist side of everybody else in the Republican Party.
00:03:24.000And he's going to win over a divided field.
00:03:26.000Then he's going to run as a centrist statist in the general elections.
00:03:31.000That's what we're going to see from him.
00:03:32.000We're also going to be talking about political assassination.
00:03:36.000There was a major event, of course, I'm sure you've heard of it by now.
00:03:39.000The primary opponent of Vladimir Putin was shot near the Kremlin, in the Kremlin.
00:03:45.000This would be equivalent to Mitt Romney just before the election being shot close to the Capitol building or the White House, shot on the White House lawn.
00:03:53.000A lot of people instantly said, what must be Putin?
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00:06:44.000And the next hour we're going to be talking to our reporters live in Chicago, looking at this black site where there is kidnapping.
00:06:54.000Because that's what it is when you don't, when you arrest somebody and you hold them for days and you don't charge them with a crime, that is kidnapping.
00:07:01.000So we have reports of essentially the beginnings of the NDAA.
00:07:06.000But maybe where the NDAA began was in Chicago.
00:07:11.000We have an article, we're going to go over and talk about that before Joe Biggs comes on with us in the next hour, talking about how perhaps the corruption and the practices in Chicago were exported to Gitmo, and maybe set up the example for the NDAA, which of course Chicagoan Obama signed, promising that he would never indefinitely detain people without charges, that he would not disappear people.
00:07:37.000They were already doing it in his hometown.
00:07:53.000We're going to talk about that connection.
00:07:54.000We're going to talk to Joe Biggs about the demonstration there yesterday, and what he's seen in the local press, who basically are trying to push this back, to water this down, saying, oh, this is Chicago.
00:08:06.000People just don't understand that in a big city, the police get kind of rough with people.
00:08:16.000We're also going to talk about the political assassination in Russia.
00:08:19.000We're going to talk about the surveillance state.
00:08:21.000But before we get to all of those, I want to talk about CPAC, because there was a lot of news this last week, a lot of political news.
00:08:28.000There's a big field of Republicans, and they were making their case to the Conservative Political Action Committee conference, actually, in Washington.
00:08:38.000Jeb Bush, of course, everybody is talking about him as being the heir apparent, and I think he probably will be, because I think he's going to let everybody else split the conservative and libertarian vote.
00:08:49.000He's going to go for the statist-authoritarian side of the Republican Party, and he certainly has the financial backing of the statist-authoritarians.
00:08:58.000Once these other guys all fight amongst themselves, he'll be the one left on that side, and then he'll be able to run in the center in the general election, the statist central part of the political spectrum.
00:09:09.000But when he went to CPAC, there were a lot of people say they were going to boo him and walk out, and actually he did get that.
00:09:16.000They had about two dozen people only that walked out.
00:09:19.000I think it's better to stay there to Essentially boo him and to turn your back on him as he talks.
00:09:26.000I think it's better to confront stuff instead of just walking out on it.
00:09:29.000But certainly they made a point when they did that.
00:11:13.000Underscoring, as we've been saying all along, that NAFTA was not simply a trade agreement.
00:11:19.000And understand that the Transatlantic Partnership and the Trans-Pacific Partnerships that are being negotiated now are not simply trade agreements.
00:11:27.000They are going to affect our sovereignty, they're going to affect our freedom in multitude of ways.
00:12:21.000I'm all for privately funded projects, but when you're going to have a privately funded project run by a foreign corporation from Canada and give them the right to eminent domain, that's not constitutional and it's not just.
00:12:36.000They should not be able to come in for the Keystone Pipeline and run people off of their property, off of their farms and ranches that have been in their families for over a hundred years.
00:12:47.000They don't have, the corporations don't have superior private property rights to the individuals.
00:12:56.000This is taking it the next step from the Supreme Court's decision on Kello, which was an abomination.
00:13:02.000This is taking it now to not only just a A politically connected corporation taking somebody who is a smaller individual, taking their private property, this is giving it to a foreign corporation.
00:13:14.000That's what I object to about the Keystone Project.
00:14:04.000And they've said repeatedly, the keystone is for private use.
00:14:07.000Transatlantic and Trans-Pacific partnerships being negotiated by corporate lobbyists in secret That we cannot see, the public cannot see it.
00:14:15.000Our elected representatives cannot see it.
00:14:17.000Our elected representatives are not going to be given time to read it.
00:14:20.000They don't need to read it because they're going to be blocked under fast track from making any amendments to it.
00:14:26.000This is the way they're railroading us into a global governance.
00:15:08.000But then he stood by the policies and he noted that a conservative state legislature and governor signed an in-state tuition bill in Florida just last year.
00:15:16.000Understand, this is in-state tuition for illegal aliens.
00:15:20.000People who are here illegally get benefits that American citizens do not.
00:15:26.000You understand how they're incentivizing this.
00:15:29.000You are not going to stop this with a border patrol when you incentivize it to this level.
00:15:36.000And that's the issue that I have when Marco Rubio talks about how he says, yeah, I understand.
00:15:42.000He says, I understand that when you got 10 or 12 million people in the country that haven't committed any crime other than violating our immigration law.
00:15:49.000And trespassing and demanding entitlements.
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00:20:56.000In the next hour, we're going to be talking to our reporters who are up in Chicago at the reported black site where they're detaining people without charging them with the crime.
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00:21:10.000And of course, there are connections between Gitmo and a particular detective there in Chicago.
00:21:17.000We're going to talk about that as well when Joe joins us in the next hour.
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00:22:31.000Now going back to CPAC, because I think it's very interesting to see the different players there.
00:22:35.000We talked about how Marco Rubio tried to walk back his position on illegal immigration saying, I get it.
00:22:41.000We have to shut the border down before we can declare everybody that came here illegally as citizens and give them the right to vote and give them full access to the entitlement welfare state.
00:22:56.000And when you continually incentivize things, when you build up the entitlement welfare state, when you give illegal aliens greater entitlements than citizens who were born here, when you do that, you are incentivizing it.
00:23:09.000You will never shut it down at the border.
00:23:11.000What you will do is you will shut down the American economy.
00:23:17.000We had American sociologists, socialists, Cloward and Piven, who basically strategized about that.
00:23:24.000I remember, if you go back and you look at the Libertarian Party, they have a questionnaire to try to get you to stop thinking on just this left-right line.
00:23:35.000It was developed by one of the founders of the Libertarian Party, Nolan.
00:23:39.000And what they do is they ask you 10 questions about personal freedom, 10 questions about, essentially, civil liberties questions.
00:23:45.00010 that are economic and 10 that are civil liberties, if you want to put it in those areas.
00:23:49.000And then what you get is an area, a graph, a chart that you can put out.
00:23:54.000And what they do is they rotate that chart 45 degrees, so now you've got a line that runs left and right, but now you have a higher quadrant, liberty, and you have a lower quadrant, authoritarianism.
00:24:05.000It's very important to start thinking of things in the right way, to get that perspective, that broader perspective.
00:24:12.000Because, of course, you can look at Hitler and you can look at Stalin and you can say, well, one of them is they're extreme polar opposites of each other, except they acted exactly the same.
00:24:31.000They're down at the very tip of that diamond.
00:24:33.000When I took the quiz on the 10 economic questions of freedom and the 10 civil liberties questions, I basically sided with liberty in everything except open borders.
00:24:48.000And I said at the time, you cannot have open borders if you're going to have an unrestricted entitlement state.
00:24:55.000Well, of course, I'd been beat, and I didn't know about Cloward and Piven at the time, but Cloward and Piven had already worked that out, and they said, that's the way we do it.
00:25:02.000That's the way we destroy society so we can rebuild it into a socialist utopia.
00:25:08.000And that's precisely what's being done now.
00:25:17.000You will never be able to get campaign finance reform as long as Washington is a black hole of power drawing money and power into it.
00:25:27.000It is too much power in one place and it's become, like I said, a black hole that's drawing everything in.
00:25:32.000No laws are going to stop it and no border fence is going to stop immigration when you incentivize it The way that Obama and Jeb Bush and others want to incentivize it.
00:25:44.000Now Jeb Bush also said he's not going to sign any tax pledges in 2016.
00:26:16.000That's the family tree this guy is from.
00:26:19.000The family tree that gave us George H.W.
00:26:21.000and George W. Why would we even consider him?
00:26:25.000This is a guy who is deliberately running to the authoritarian left.
00:26:29.000of the pack so that he can be the only man standing and of course he's getting all the money from these guys.
00:26:35.000Now the person who came in second, Scott Walker, interesting that we had an advisor, Mark Salter, the top advisor for the 2008 presidential campaign of John McCain, said he didn't like Scott Walker.
00:26:47.000He said, I want to like him but Scott Walker is kind of a dumb A, is what he said.
00:26:53.000Coming from somebody who worked for John McCain?
00:26:55.000I mean, I don't know, I don't know Scott Walker, but I mean that is, if he thinks somebody is much dumber than his boss, that's a pretty bad insult.
00:27:04.000Now the person who won CPAC was Rand Paul.
00:28:22.000Now listen, I want to repeat what he said there.
00:28:25.000He said, when politicians accept torture, even of the innocent as necessary, when politicians accept imprisonment without trial, that's precisely what is going on in Obama's Chicago.
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00:33:20.000From the front lines of the Information War, it's Alex Jones!
00:33:30.000Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show, I'm David Knight, I'll be your host, and we're going to be talking in the next hour to our reporters in Chicago.
00:33:37.000Of course, we've been talking about that black site where they've been imprisoning people without charging them, where there are accusations of torture, even death, in this black site.
00:33:47.000And we just played the excerpt from Rand Paul's speech at CPAC, where he said, when politicians accept imprisonment without trial, when politicians accept torture, even of the innocent, as being necessary, Lovers of liberty need to rise.
00:34:01.000We need to understand that is happening in our country now.
00:34:37.000We know that they're growing opium in Afghanistan.
00:34:41.000That's where they're funding Black Ops.
00:34:42.000We've seen the world supply of opium from Afghanistan go from only 10% of the world's supply to over 95% of the world's supply since we've been there.
00:34:52.000We know what the war of drugs is about.
00:34:55.000It's a civil war against our political system, against our rights.
00:34:59.000Rand Paul called out Jeb Bush on marijuana because right now that's the focus of the, that's the most ridiculous aspect, but of course the aspect of the war on drugs that is the one that puts most people in jail.
00:35:13.000Rand Paul slammed Jeb Bush for hypocrisy.
00:35:15.000He pointed out the flaws in Bush's opposition to medical marijuana last year in Florida.
00:35:21.000Paul said that That he didn't criticize Bush for having made mistakes growing up.
00:35:27.000But he says, if you've got MS, multiple sclerosis, in Florida, Jeb Bush just voted to put you in jail.
00:35:33.000If you go down to a local store, a local drug store, and get medical marijuana.
00:35:37.000Yet he was doing it for recreational purposes.
00:36:12.000Instead, you've got the guy who is presiding over it.
00:36:15.000The judge gets a massive contribution to one of his favorite charities, and the only person who gets in any trouble over it, of course, is the reporter who exposes it.
00:36:24.000Now, also at CPAC was Michael Hayden, former director of the NSA, and prior to that, former director of the CIA.
00:36:33.000He had this to say at the NSA, where he was debating Judge Napolitano.
00:38:47.000If you want to live in a maximum security society, that's the same as living in our worst prisons.
00:38:54.000We call our worst prisons maximum security.
00:38:56.000Now, about a month ago, Michael Hayden went to Washington and Lee University, and he made some equally amazing statements there, and I did a report on it about a month ago.
00:39:05.000I want to play as much of that as we have time for before we go to break.
00:39:10.000There's a very interesting video that got posted by Washington and Lee University over the weekend.
00:39:15.000Michael Hayden, who has been at the top of the intelligence community as the surveillance state of the 21st century has been put into place.
00:39:24.000He was someone who began as the NSA Director around the time of 9-11, shortly prior to that.
00:39:30.000He then moved on to Director of National Intelligence, then on to the CIA.
00:39:35.000He's pretty unapologetic about how he's broken the law, and he made some amazing statements at this law symposium.
00:40:14.000These are rights that we possess whether or not there's a Constitution or a Fourth Amendment.
00:40:19.000And the reason that we have the Fourth Amendment is because it puts prohibitions on people like Michael Hayden who think that they don't have or should not have any kind of controls on their actions.
00:40:30.000They should go before a judge and say that they have a reason to search for the person and they should be very specific about it.
00:40:39.000Instead of going to a judge and getting a search warrant saying, this is what I'm looking for, he does a dragnet surveillance of everyone about everything.
00:42:15.000He hosed it because he flat out lied under oath.
00:42:18.000But of course, if you're part of the intelligence community, you won't go to jail for lying under oath.
00:42:24.000Jim's answer was not as bad as Ron Wyden's question.
00:42:30.000Oh, it's the question that's the problem.
00:42:32.000I don't really know what a dossier is in this context.
00:42:36.000So, what I wanted to see is if you could give me a yes or no answer to the question, does the NSA collect any type of data at all?
00:42:45.000And this is Ron Wyden talking to James Clapper.
00:42:50.000And of course, this is the famous quote where Clapper looks down and rubs his eyes and he can't look him in the eye because he's lying, not only to the senator, but to America.
00:43:02.000And he was exposed shortly after that.
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00:47:46.000We're going to be joined in the next hour with our reporters who are in Chicago, reporting about the black site exposed by the Guardian's reporters.
00:47:55.000People being detained without being charged.
00:48:04.000The same types of things that we've seen at Gitmo.
00:48:07.000Why should we expect That if the government doesn't have to be held to account for lying to Congress, for lying to the government, as we saw James Clapper in the last segment, we replayed when he was asked by Ron Wyden.
00:48:19.000Ron Wyden knew what the NSA was doing.
00:48:25.000He was putting him on the hot spot, trying to get him to confess to his Illegal activities, but of course he lied and his lies were eventually exposed now We have Michael Hayden who was director of the NSA at the time formerly director of the CIA Now he's retired and he's going around trying to make the case that what they did was defending the Constitution No.
00:48:51.000He was defending his bureaucracy from illegal actions.
00:48:55.000He was hiding up, hiding and covering up the actions that they were taking.
00:48:59.000If we allow them to continue with this dragnet surveillance state, if we allow them to get by not having warrants, not having to go before a judge to get search warrants, just collect everything on everybody as they wish, If we allow them to ignore the Fourth Amendment, they're going to ignore, and they are ignoring, all of our rights that were explicitly protected.
00:49:19.000And all of our rights that were not explicitly protected, but protected by the Ninth Amendment.
00:49:24.000Remember that the Ninth Amendment, the ninth of the articles of the Bill of Rights, said that if we don't specifically enumerate a right, that doesn't mean that it's still, that it's not important, and it doesn't mean that we have relinquished it to the central government.
00:49:39.000And then, essentially making the case even stronger with the Tenth Amendment saying, Things that have not been expressly delegated to the central government are reserved to the states and to the people.
00:49:49.000So if we let them get by with this, we're going to see that we no longer have habeas corpus.
00:49:54.000We're not going to have trial by jury.
00:49:55.000We're not going to have trials of any sorts.
00:49:57.000We're going to have an NDAA type of country.
00:50:02.000And of course, Obama's NDAA, indefinite detention without trial, That has been going on in Chicago for quite some time.
00:50:11.000And of course, Obama and Rahm Emanuel, who was his chief of staff at the time, very well knew that.
00:50:16.000So what we're seeing in Chicago with this investigation that Joe Biggs is looking at, this is very important to understand what's going on there is not isolated to there.
00:50:26.000It was exported from there to Gitmo and it's being exported to the rest of the country and we need to look at this and we need to reform it.
00:50:36.000Now, I was playing the remarks from Michael Hayden in the last segment because...
00:50:40.000I think it's very important to disassemble this guy's lies.
00:50:45.000And we need to walk this back and look at what these people are trying to do to our country.
00:50:50.000This is a civil war on our country, destroying our legal framework, destroying rights that have been there since Magna Carta, that have been respected throughout the English-speaking world for centuries.
00:51:03.000They are now taking these things down.
00:51:05.000They're laying an infrastructure of tyranny.
00:51:08.000And using the latest and highest technology to do so.
00:51:46.000I want to go back to this report that we did about a month ago on the nightly news.
00:51:53.000This was Michael Hayden talking at Washington and Lee.
00:51:56.000And of course what brings this up is the fact that he had the audacity To look people in the eye at CPAC and say, Judge Napolitano is an unrelenting libertarian, and so am I.
00:52:53.000The way that they're using the 215 section that they were given under the Patriot Act Even if that were constitutional, they're still exceeding their authority because that was supposed to be going after people that essentially you could get a search warrant for.
00:53:07.000Although you didn't have to go before a real judge, you just had to go before the FISA judge.
00:53:10.000But listen to what else he has to say.
00:53:12.000Why was Wyden trying to get Clapper to say what he was saying?
00:53:17.000Because Wyden, in the committee, was losing the vote on 215 consistently 15 to 2.
00:53:25.000So you put those two clips together and you understand that all the senators knew what was going on that were in the Senate Intelligence Committee.
00:53:32.000They knew that 215 was being abused, that they were going beyond their legal authority, which went beyond their constitutional authority.
00:53:59.000And now we have Senator Burr from North Carolina who says he doesn't think there should be any public oversight of anything the intelligence community does.
00:55:35.000Of course, he had the audacity to go to CPAC and say that he was a libertarian.
00:55:38.000And as I pointed out, I think Mark Dice had the best comment when he said he meant to say a Luciferian, not a libertarian.
00:55:45.000Now, it's not just looking at our Internet activity.
00:55:50.000Of course, we've talked about how the government is rapidly closing the noose on our movements in this country.
00:55:57.000Coming up with autonomous cars, coming up with many different devices that they're going to put into our cars to not only control them, but to monitor them.
00:56:04.000And of course, when they monitor what you're doing, they're going to force you to stand down and turn over control of your car to them.
00:56:12.000That's what this is fundamentally about.
00:56:14.000You may not know it, but you have a black box in your car if you're going to buy one this year.
00:56:21.000Now there was an interesting article from the National Motorist Association written by its president talking about black boxes in Orwell.
00:56:29.000He says, Imagine that you're inserting a benign microchip in a person's earlobe, and you're monitoring that person's every move.
00:56:36.000Well, that's no longer science fiction.
00:56:39.000It's perfectly feasible, and of course tens of millions will willingly comply with the requirement for that.
00:56:44.000All you need are the right incentives.
00:56:46.000You say, no, that would never happen in America.
00:56:55.000The only difference is that the chip is not in your ear, it's in your car.
00:56:59.000And it's soon going to be in your bike.
00:57:01.000Well, this is not something that is just watching you move around like your phone.
00:57:05.000No, he says, private and government transportation interests are licking their chops for years in anticipation of being able to charge and to tax motorists on the basis of how, when and where they travel.
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01:00:28.000I'm David Knight, your host this hour.
01:00:30.000We're going to be talking to Joe Biggs and our reporters in Chicago.
01:00:34.000They're at the reported site of a black interrogation site, a dark interrogation site, where there are charges that people have been held without being charged with a crime, just like the NDAA.
01:00:57.000I want to talk to him about that, as well as the way that it's being covered in the local press in Chicago.
01:01:03.000Because it looks like they're pushing back on this and covering somewhat for the police department there.
01:01:09.000Of course we know Obama and Rahm Emanuel knew that this was going on.
01:01:13.000This has been going on for quite some time.
01:01:15.000It's tied back to the war on drugs and of course it is also tied to Gitmo.
01:01:20.000That's how the Guardian found this site.
01:01:24.000They were actually investigating Gitmo torture.
01:01:26.000I want to go to that but I want to finish up with what I was talking about with these black box recorders that are put in your cars.
01:01:32.000This is something that they've been gradually adding For the last 20 years, it goes back to 1994, the first cars, first a few American car manufacturers and a couple of models started putting these devices in.
01:01:45.000Gradually, they started adding additional models.
01:01:47.000Other manufacturers came in and started adding it gradually.
01:01:50.000But as of September of last year, 2014, all new cars and light trucks and vans and SUVs Sold in the U.S.
01:01:59.000will be equipped with one of these data recorders.
01:02:02.000And, of course, they can store everything that you're doing.
01:02:05.000Approximately five seconds before an accident, they will go back and back this up.
01:02:10.000It's going to record your vehicle speed, your throttle position, your brake application, your engine speed, and your velocity change through the collision.
01:02:17.000But, of course, there's other aspects of this they'll be able to do as well.
01:02:20.000They might have sensors alongside the road that if your exhaust is above a certain level, maybe they will shut you down and make you limp back home.
01:02:33.000There's a lot of different ways they can use this.
01:02:35.000They're going to use it to charge us by the mile, as well as the taxes that they put into our gasoline.
01:02:41.000And they are going to use it to drive you from behind the steering wheel to make sure that computer-driven, government-controlled cars are going to be the norm.
01:02:51.000They will turn driving your car into a hobby at the track.
01:02:55.000You will not be able to use it for transportation and that's something that should concern all of us because this goes beyond just total surveillance and taxation.
01:03:04.000This impinges upon our very ability to move about in a country.
01:03:09.000Now, along that line, there was an article up on Friday on Infowars.com, why your smartphone records everything you say to it.
01:03:17.000We know that it's recording us, but did you know that according to the terms of service, Google, Apple, Microsoft, all these companies, not just Samsung, they're recording your voice commands and saving them, saving them, for up to two years.
01:03:33.000And as we pointed out in this article, Often these recordings are not encrypted, so they're potentially vulnerable to hackers, and the recordings will capture personal conversations as well as legitimate commands.
01:03:46.000So if you use your phone to speak into it for voice recognition, it's going to grab that.
01:03:50.000It may be listening to you all the time, just like your Samsung device is, and recording that For the manufacturers to go through, not just for the NSA.
01:04:00.000Of course, we should all be concerned about that.
01:04:03.000Now, before we go to Joe in Chicago, I want to give you a little idea of how the Guardian tracked this down to this black site.
01:04:12.000One of the first reports that they had, going back to the 18th of February, said that they were looking at Gitmo torturing, and they found a longtime detective from Chicago.
01:04:22.000They found that his tactics had been exported from Chicago to Guantanamo.
01:04:26.000So you see, Guantanamo torture has its roots in Obama's Chicago.
01:04:34.000He's a detective on Chicago's north side.
01:04:36.000He worked from 1977 to 2007, 30 years.
01:04:41.000His record, they say, suggests a continuum between police abuse in urban America and the wartime detention scandals at Gitmo because he was brought there as a U.S.
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01:07:23.000We're going to be going to our reporters in Chicago.
01:07:26.000At what has been reported by the Guardian as being a, and they've talked to several witnesses who have given this information, as well as several lawyers, saying people are being held there without being charged, without being arraigned.
01:07:37.000They were being held there for a very long time, some of them tortured, there's allegations that people have died from this site.
01:07:43.000And so we're going to talk to our reporters, what they saw yesterday at the demonstration, and what they see today.
01:07:49.000As I was pointing out in the last segment, this ...has a connection to Gitmo.
01:07:54.000It was actually in the investigation of Gitmo that The Guardian found this site.
01:08:00.000Specifically, they were looking at a Chicago detective, Richard Zooley, who had worked for 30 years in Chicago as a detective, and then was a U.S.
01:08:19.000It has severely damaged the rule of law in this country, and it has gone far beyond just our reputation.
01:08:25.000Now, they point out that this man is currently under investigation for two wrongful convictions.
01:08:32.000In one of these wrongful convictions, it was a 2013 decision by the state's attorney, Anita Alvarez.
01:08:40.000She freed an innocent man, they say, that Zully's faulty police work sent to prison for 23 years.
01:08:47.000Letharial Boyd was convicted in 1990 of murder.
01:08:50.000He accuses Zooli in a federal civil rights lawsuit of planting evidence and withholding crucial details.
01:08:56.000Now this guy went on to work at Gitmo as a Navy Reservist.
01:09:01.000And what he did there was participate in one of the most highly profiled torture cases against a man named Slahi.
01:09:10.000Inmates said that they confessed untruthfully in order to try and stop the treatments by this fellow Zuli.
01:09:15.000And Mark Fallon, the former deputy commander of Gitmo's now-shuttered investigative task force, this is what the Guardian says, said that what he did was illegal, it was immoral, it was ineffective, and it was unconstitutional.
01:09:31.000Nevertheless, this is what's been going on in Chicago for some time.
01:09:36.000And of course, Obama and Rahm Emanuel knew about it.
01:09:39.000This was something that has been going on in the Chicago Police Department.
01:10:11.000People are laying out and enjoying the sun.
01:10:14.000Now, you guys did a very good video that's up on InfoWars, kind of summarizing what happened at the demonstrations yesterday and people's comments about that.
01:10:24.000Joe, I want to play a little bit of that report, just the area where people are commenting at the demonstration.
01:10:47.000He's not going to give you the facts because he just wants to stop being hurt.
01:10:51.000And to hide a facility like this, and what they're doing is they're hiding it in rural, down neighborhoods where nobody would think of looking for it.
01:10:59.000The worst thing was it had to be someone from the Guardian, where the blank was our medium.
01:11:18.000I was absolutely livid when I heard all this.
01:11:23.000Anger, it just kind of swells, and it just lets you know you've got to be able to do something.
01:11:27.000And coming out here today and raising awareness to this, what is actually happening is, I guess, the route to go right now.
01:11:36.000I always quote this phrase from George Carlin, you know, there's a club and you ain't in it.
01:11:46.000And there's a high school right next door to this place.
01:11:49.000I mean, and to have torture going on next to where we're educating the next generation of gatekeepers is sad.
01:11:55.000This is their community just as it is ours.
01:11:57.000And I hope, you know, that they keep that in mind and really...
01:12:02.000Take a hard look at some of these policies that are coming down from the federal government and being instituted here at state level, local level.
01:12:11.000Because, you know, at the end of the day, they're the last line of defense between us and this sort of tyranny that we're seeing here.
01:12:18.000Alright, that's just a short excerpt from this report that you'll find up on InfoWars.com, an excellent report that you and Josh Owens put together.
01:12:25.000I would suggest people take a look at all that, but Joe, one of the things that really stuck out to me about that, and of course there was a lot of...
01:12:33.000A lot of very amazing things that were said later on in that report about how they treat people.
01:12:39.000But that lady said, where is our press?
01:12:48.000Let me read you, Joe, and get some of your reactions to the headlines that we're seeing there.
01:12:52.000Of course, we've got a radio station there, WBEZ 91.5, saying in the past few years, reporters and other journalists have been to the facility for tours and interviews as well as press conferences.
01:13:02.000And it's essentially show and tell where the police will show a huge amount of drugs they've seized in various cases.
01:13:07.000You have a lot of media there and television cameras.
01:13:09.000But then the Guardian reporter says, look, it wasn't a mischaracterization.
01:13:14.000That's the headline of the article saying that calling it a black site was a mischaracterization.
01:13:19.000He says, you can find certain black sites like this in Romania and Poland.
01:13:30.000I mean, how absurd is that, that the press would say, well, I didn't see anything when I was there, so of course it didn't happen.
01:13:37.000We just had a case in New York, a guy who had a factory that made maraschino cherries, and he had a massive pot operation going on in the same factory.
01:13:45.000Of course, the power usage and the fact that the cherries were there with a very pungent smell covered up any detection of the pot operation.
01:13:53.000Nobody knew about it, but him and a couple of other guys And that's exactly what's going on at this black site.
01:14:01.000That's when I spoke with the defense attorney, Anthony Hill, the one who basically, you know, brought the story to the Garden with a confirmation about what's really going on in there.
01:14:51.000I think it's pretty amazing the way MSNBC covered it, Joe.
01:14:54.000As they said, the Chicago Police Department speaks on the Homan Square facility.
01:14:59.000They put the press release from the Chicago Police Department in here without any comments whatsoever.
01:15:06.000Just pure propaganda, without any questioning.
01:15:09.000I guess, of course, if you were to question what the Chicago police said, then we would be conspiracy theorists, because the way MSNBC works is to never question what the government says.
01:15:20.000They said, Chicago police abide by all laws, rules, and guidelines, and the allegation of physical violence as a part of interviews and suspects is unequivocally false, offensive, not supported by any facts whatsoever.
01:15:31.000MSNBC doesn't have any reports about the people who have come forward, about the lawyers who have come forward, who have said that exactly the same thing happened to them that happened to you guys on Friday.
01:15:41.000When you walk up, they won't talk to anybody, they won't acknowledge anything, they just send you away.
01:15:46.000And yet, he had that happen for several times.
01:15:48.000He called somebody that he knew inside the police department, and within a couple of minutes they came out and they let him in, and of course, His client was still in there.
01:15:59.000And that's somebody that had the money to get a lawyer.
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01:21:38.000Let's go back to our reporters in Chicago.
01:21:43.000He's freezing in the cold air and he's got this is the last segment that Joe's going to be with us.
01:21:47.000So Joe, give us an overview, real quick summary of what's happened this last weekend and what you're looking forward to the next couple of days.
01:21:55.000One of the interesting things that we were talking about earlier about the media blackout, people like Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, what they do is they hear about this and then they call the Chicago Police Department and go, do you guys have a black site?
01:22:36.000He was one of the gentlemen who was held there for, I think, upwards of three days, stripped down, shackled to a wall, and punched in the face.
01:22:45.000He said the guard put him down on the ground and then stomped on his testicles.
01:22:50.000So, I mean, there's definitely some very intense Tactics that are being used on these people and this man said that he heard people screaming in other areas He didn't he wasn't able to talk to anyone for three days.
01:23:02.000Yeah, I don't know if it was that guy one guy They had basically they said he they handcuffed him with his arms straight You know to either side stretched out like he's crucified and then one of the cops Beat him and then basically put his foot on his groin and just rubbed it like he's putting out a cigarette butt Yeah, yeah I mean, and it's so mind-blowing that the mainstream media will not jump on this, will not cover it.
01:23:29.000They have the same attitude as the cops who come in and out of there, just kind of like laugh and joke it off.
01:23:33.000This isn't a laughing or joking matter whatsoever.
01:23:36.000And one of the interesting things about the blackout in the media like you were talking about earlier is no one here New about this.
01:23:43.000Until yesterday, a lot of the people that were driving by who stopped to be a part of the protest would just happen to drive by and say, what is this?
01:23:59.000So there's a huge, you know, media blackout.
01:24:03.000I mean, unless you really are into alternative media, you get your news from the Internet, you're watching InfoWars, you're watching other channels like us, you're not going to get the full story.
01:24:15.000Let me give you this headline, sorry Joe, NPR, and get your reaction to this.
01:24:18.000Even if the Chicago black site story is a stretch, this is National Public Radio, it stirred up bad memories.
01:24:24.000In other words, it's not happening, it's just history, but we empathize with your suffering, is what they're saying, essentially.
01:24:29.000That's NPR, that's the way the main, so they're saying, well we're not ignoring it, you know, but it's not real, don't worry about it, but you know, it brings up bad memories of things that no longer happen anymore.
01:24:47.000Being in that place, that would change you for the rest of your life.
01:24:51.000That's something that you would lose all trust for any kind of police officer, anybody out there who's a public servant that's supposed to have your best interests at hand.
01:25:40.000They just can't believe that anything like this could ever happen in America, even when we show them that it's happening.
01:25:46.000Even when we talk to the people who have seen it happening, the lawyers, the individuals who had this happen to them.
01:25:51.000It's amazing, and at first it was just one person, then you had another person come out, and another, and another, and so then you've got other lawyers who are coming out and talking about this, so it's starting to build.
01:26:00.000Hopefully that'll help, but I remember when the NDAA was first passed, when Obama signed it on New Year's Eve and said, when he had previously said, hey, don't worry, I'm not going to sign anything that authorizes the U.S.
01:26:14.000military to detain people on American soil indefinitely without charges, without trial.
01:26:21.000And then he signs it on New Year's Eve and then says, don't worry, I'm not going to implement it, when it was happening in his own hometown.
01:26:48.000In one of the Guardian articles here, they have a quote from someone who says, over the last 25 years, Joe, we've repeatedly brought the Justice Department and U.S.
01:26:57.000attorneys powerful evidence of systemic police torture, repeater cops running wild without discipline or supervision, and a myriad of other patterns of outrageous police misconduct.
01:27:07.000And he goes on to say, when Barack Obama was an Illinois state senator, he assiduously avoided any acknowledgment of or involvement in the fight against police torture.
01:27:16.000As did then-Congressman Rahm Emanuel, who later became Obama's Chief of Staff.
01:27:23.000These guys have this going on in their city.
01:27:26.000They don't do anything about it, except what they do, Joe, is they bring it to a national level.
01:27:31.000And they have people like this police detective taking the torturing to Gitmo, one of the worst offenders there.
01:27:39.000I mean, the president back in June already signed off on the paperwork to allow them to detain anybody that they think have a Ebola or something like that, just like they had up in New Jersey with Chris Christie.
01:28:06.000People need to wake up and pay attention.
01:28:07.000They need to look and see what's going on, because too many people are ignoring this stuff.
01:28:11.000And at the end of the day, when it finally happens, this Great Awakening, it's going to be too late.
01:28:15.000They're going to have all the guns, they're going to have all the bullets, they're going to have all the power, and we're not going to be anything except a bunch of slaves sitting around being tortured by these guys.
01:28:23.000Joe, we've got to go to break in just a couple of minutes, but before we do, there's an article that's up on our site today about Google.
01:28:28.000It wants to rank websites based on truthiness, essentially.
01:28:33.000Not on their links or what they, the content that they have.
01:28:37.000And I guess that begs the question as to who gets to decide what's truthful.
01:28:43.000And once they, if they're going, if the mainstream media is going to try to cover up something like this black site here and we report on it, then are we going to be downlisted on Google searches?
01:28:54.000That looks like that's what's going to happen.
01:28:55.000Well, you're going to be there tomorrow, right?
01:28:57.000You're going to be live on the radio show with Alex Jones tomorrow with another report.
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01:33:42.000We were just talking to our reporter, Joe Biggs, in Chicago about the story that was broken by The Guardian, talking about the black site there.
01:33:52.000A black site in the sense that they would hold people there for very long periods of time without charging them with any crimes.
01:33:59.000Reports that people there had been brutalized, tortured, been handcuffed and beaten while they were handcuffed.
01:34:05.000And then some people, as alleged, had died there.
01:34:08.000And of course, the police come back with a press release and say, ah, there's nothing to it.
01:34:34.000Didn't happen, just as Joe Biggs was saying.
01:34:36.000The same thing we saw happen when we had James Clapper obviously lying to the Senate Intelligence Committee, saying, no, no, no, we're not stealing any of this information.
01:34:48.000We're following the law everywhere and he's looking down, he can't even look at the senator because the senator knows he's lying.
01:34:58.000But they just go with this, and of course mainstream media gives them cover.
01:35:01.000Now that's one of the ways that they do it.
01:35:02.000As I pointed out, NPR's headline takes a little bit different spin.
01:35:05.000They say, well, this story is a stretch.
01:35:08.000Even if it is a stretch, and it is, it stirred up bad memories about black people being singled out because it's been used against people politically as part of a NATO protest.
01:35:19.000But the vast majority of the people that are being picked up with this are people that are Falling under the war on drugs, and of course that falls disproportionately on the poor and on the black, especially in the cities like Chicago.
01:35:32.000Most of the people who actually serve time for marijuana and other crimes like that, of course, are poor and black.
01:35:38.000They're not people like Jeb Bush or Jeb Bush's daughter.
01:35:42.000No, they can break the drug laws and nothing happens to them.
01:35:48.000He admits to having done that as a youthful indiscretion, just like Obama.
01:35:52.000But of course, the same people who did it when they were young will not only send people who are doing it recreationally to jail for their lives with these mandatory minimums that were enacted by Ronald Reagan.
01:36:04.000See, it's the left, it's the right, it's all of them together.
01:36:11.000But not only will they do that, but they will withhold it from people who need it for medical purposes.
01:36:16.000That's what Rand Paul pointed out about Jeb Bush's hypocrisy.
01:36:21.000He would use it, violate the laws for recreational purposes, yet he would deny that to people who need it for medical purposes.
01:36:28.000People who are suffering from multiple sclerosis, people who are suffering from cancer or from glaucoma, that we know this could help them with their treatment.
01:36:39.000Nevertheless, if they get it, we're going to send them to jail.
01:36:43.000We're going to allow people to choke to death on their own vomit in jail because they can't control the nausea.
01:37:02.000But anyway, he was an activist and he wrote about The junction of the war on drugs against our liberties and he had a judge who kept telling him that he was taking treatment for AIDS and it was making him deathly nauseous just like people get when they take chemotherapy.
01:38:07.000The Guardian Stories, an online advocacy campaign that's followed it, have focused on the plight of several people who were arrested during the 2012 NATO summit in Chicago.
01:38:16.000Most of those people were protesters from other cities.
01:38:19.000Unfamiliar with the travails of being arrested and tossed into the sprawling, messy criminal justice system of a large city with a serious violent crime problem.
01:38:30.000Okay, so yeah, you know, it's just these people, they're a little bit too thin-skinned.
01:38:33.000They just don't understand that here in a big city, we're kind of tough guys.
01:38:37.000You know, we can rough you up while you're in handcuffs, we can hold you for days without charging you with anything, and then just throw you out the door without an apology.
01:38:47.000And of course, this is all okay because, you know, here we've got a serious violent crime problem.
01:38:52.000You've got a violent crime problem with your police.
01:38:56.000You've got a violent crime problem that is a function of the war of drugs, a war against our rights, the war against our legal system, the war against our people.
01:39:07.000That's what the war of drugs is about.
01:39:09.000It's a war conducted on us by our own government.
01:39:14.000Now, of course, it should worry us very much what our government is trying to do in terms of taking away informed consent.
01:39:22.000I've got a clip coming up about how that's being done in Oregon.
01:39:26.000The amazing hypocrisy of someone who is both a doctor and a senator who ought to know better, but she doesn't.
01:39:34.000She doesn't have respect for our choices.
01:39:37.000This is something that is being laid down, all of this measles talk and mandatory vaccines, that's being done to lay the groundwork for something like an Ebola outbreak.
01:39:48.000And understand that Ebola is not over yet.
01:39:52.000Just yesterday, We had emergency responders investigating a possible Virginia Ebola case.
01:39:57.000This is medics, firefighters, and hazardous materials team, this is according to Reuters, investigated a possible case of Ebola in a Virginia suburb of Washington, D.C.
01:40:11.000They say the patient had recently traveled to a country affected by Ebola and exhibited symptoms of the disease and of course they point out nearly 10,000 people have died in West Africa.
01:40:21.000This is many, many, many times more than we have ever seen from previous Ebola outbreaks.
01:40:28.000And of course just yesterday we learned that Sierra Leone's Vice President ...is now in quarantine.
01:40:35.000They still don't have it under control in Sierra Leone.
01:40:39.000Guinea and Liberia were the other two countries where they've had most of the casualties.
01:40:43.000About seven days ago, Liberia lifted their curfew, they opened their borders, but it is still raging and still increasing in Sierra Leone with the vice president of that country in quarantine.
01:40:54.000Unlike, unlike CNN reporter and doctor Nancy Snyderman.
01:41:01.000She was the one who said, just shut up and take your damn vaccines, there's no conspiracy here.
01:41:05.000And then, when she and her reporters were exposed to Ebola and subject to a quarantine, she was seen popping out and going down to the local drugstore to pick up some, I don't know what it was, donuts or whatever.
01:41:17.000That's the kind of hypocrisy and attitude.
01:41:21.000But I want to go to another story that has a lot of hypocrisy in it, and that's of course in Oregon.
01:41:27.000Now in Oregon, they're trying to take away your informed consent, what they call your personal belief exemption.
01:41:34.000Understand that by calling it that, They're denigrating your right to be informed, your right to consent.
01:41:40.000They're completely changing the terms of it.
01:42:24.000So when they start talking about personal belief exemptions, what they're talking about is taking away your informed consent.
01:42:31.000Now this is an exchange, as they're having these hearings, this is an exchange between a lawyer, Robert Snee, he's an attorney, who was arguing the case that we needed to preserve informed consent because that's the hallmark of our medical freedom, of our freedom as individuals.
01:42:47.000And I'm going to play that clip for you when we come back because the way she responded, and he was addressing the senator who was sponsoring this bill, the way she responded is absolutely amazing.
01:42:58.000We're going to take that apart in the next segment.
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01:48:01.000I'm going to go to this senator in Oregon who is trying to outlaw informed consent, calling it removing the personal belief exemption.
01:48:12.000I'm going to go to that hypocrisy in just one moment.
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01:49:14.000We have a lawyer ask a very pointed question to the senator who has written the law to remove our informed consent.
01:49:22.000And understand, before we go to this clip, that what he's about to do is to point out that she went against the advice of her physician, she went against the advice of the pharmaceutical company making the drug, she did research, and she convinced herself that she was going to do something that was different from what her doctor, from what the pharmaceutical company was telling her.
01:49:42.000She made her own choice for herself and for her family.
01:49:49.000She was told not to use a particular medication because, by her doctor, by the pharmaceutical company, because they felt that it would be harmful for her child.
01:49:58.000She found that she thought that it would not be harmful, that they were being overly conservative.
01:50:03.000Whether or not you agree with what she was doing, that is not the issue.
01:50:06.000But when he brings that up, She immediately jumps down his throat, thinking that he's going to vilify her for her personal choice, as we have been vilified when we do our due diligence and look at what we're being told to put into ourselves and into our children.
01:50:23.000This is between Robert Snee, attorney, and Senator Elizabeth Steiner Hayward, who is trying to remove informed consent.
01:50:32.000Interestingly enough, in an article that was published in the American Academy of Family Physicians, the sponsor of this bill is quoted as disregarding her treating doctor's advice because, to paraphrase, I did the research and disagreed with her recommendation.
01:50:47.000She chose to breastfeed her child despite the medication that she was taking for her condition and despite the risk to her child from that medication.
01:50:56.000There is a great uncertainty of... I'm sorry, Madam Chair, I have to interrupt.
01:51:09.000Now listen to the way she hangs herself.
01:51:10.000Listen to the way she hangs herself with this.
01:51:11.000My doctor at that time was responding, in fact, to drug company paranoia because they'd never tested it in pregnant and breastfeeding women.
01:51:20.000I called the national expert on drugs and lactation from the University of Texas and asked him personally to clarify that interferons did not transfer from breast milk from the mother's tissue into breast milk before I made that decision for my child.
01:51:36.000And I also was well aware that breastfeeding is the best thing you can do to protect children from autoimmune diseases.
01:51:43.000So I would be very grateful if you did not take my decision, my personal decision, about my medical care out of context.
01:52:05.000My statement was not intended in any manner of impugning or maligning the sponsor's bill.
01:52:12.000Only pointing out that her right to exercise her informed consent and make a different decision in her treating doctor is the same right that we as citizens are seeking for ourselves.
01:52:23.000She wouldn't let him finish with the point.
01:52:25.000She interrupted and said, you're attacking me personally because they attack us personally.
01:52:29.000Anybody that doesn't go with what the pharmaceutical companies or the AMA is telling people, we have to be shut up.
01:52:37.000It's just our personal belief because she has science on her side and we can't dispute that.
01:52:42.000This all goes back to what we just talked about with Joe Biggs about how Google is wanting to rank websites on perceived facts and not on links.
01:52:50.000Because what they do right now, Google's search engine currently uses a number of incoming links to a web page to determine the quality of that web page.
01:52:58.000So that's how they rank you on their searching.
01:53:01.000Now what they're going to do is they're going to look at truthiness.
01:53:19.000Well, now what they're going to do is they've got a Google research team that's going to have a model that's going to measure the trustworthiness of a page.
01:53:26.000Now, how do they determine the trustworthiness of a page?
01:53:29.000Well, they look at evaluating facts that are unanimously agreed upon.
01:53:34.000Facts that the web unanimously agrees upon.
01:53:37.000Of course, that's going to go into something they call their knowledge vault.
01:53:42.000So they're going to go and they're going to cross-check what you're talking about versus the quote-unquote knowledge vault.
01:53:48.000And of course that's going to shut down any dissent, any political dissent, any scientific dissent.
01:53:54.000We're not going to have anybody who pushes back against global warming because of course that would make us deniers, infidels.
01:54:03.000We've already been told just this last week we saw one of the chief persons at the UN IPCC resigning and saying global warming was his religion.
01:54:23.000That's how the Wright Brothers got off the ground as homeschooling kids who had a bicycle shop when Langley, who was teaching at West Point and Harvard and was the head of the Smithsonian, he couldn't get off the ground with his planes because he was relying as gospel settled truth The tables that had been set up for lift coefficients.
01:54:48.000He wouldn't go back and question that.
01:54:50.000But the Wright Brothers did question those tables.
01:54:54.000That allowed them to get a plane that would take off the ground.
01:54:58.000And of course, if we're going back to medical history, let's look at what Louis Pasteur did.
01:55:02.000He would have been shut down by the truthiness of the Google search engine.
01:55:07.000Because I'm sure that the medical establishment, along with a 19th century version of Snopes, would have said that, no, there's no such thing as germs, there's simply an imagination of Louis Pasteur's wild, conspiracy-oriented mind.
01:55:23.000We have to be very, very careful about this.
01:55:28.000This is a way to dumb us down and to censor what we're saying.
01:55:32.000And people need to understand that things in the United States can happen, very bad things can happen.
01:55:38.000Just as Joe Biggs was talking about, people could not get it through their heads that we could have black sites in America where people are being held without being charged, where they're being tortured.
01:56:40.000It was done the day before there was going to be a major rally against Vladimir Putin.
01:56:46.000And Paul Craig Roberts points out, as if on cue, the murder yesterday of Boris Nemtsov, a Washington-funded Russian, quote, opposition politician, unquote, with a tiny following, has become a major news item for the American prostitute media.
01:57:02.000They've responded as if orchestrated by a conductor with insinuations of Putin's responsibility and the death of democracy in Russia.
01:57:10.000And of course he points out that this guy had very close ties with the West, the people that we have seen pouring billions of dollars into Ukraine to foment a civil war there.
01:57:19.000He got State Department funding through the National Endowment for Democracy, the NED, and of course the timing of when this happened.
01:57:26.000Ahead of the march today, On Sunday of Vesna, the Russian Spring anti-government opposition march.
01:57:34.000Now I just want to point out we also had somebody else killed that you don't hear too much about.
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