In this episode of the Alex Jones Show, we have Joe Biggs, Barrett Brown, Anthony Gucciardi, and Paul Joseph Watson join us to talk about feminism and political correctness. We also talk about the ATF's attempt to ban ammunition, the FTC's attempts to assert their authority over the internet, and the EPA's efforts to shut down wood stoves.
00:01:57.000It's been abdicated by the Congress to them.
00:01:59.000It's time for the Congress to take it back.
00:02:01.000And there are some signs, at least some talk, that Congress wants to do that.
00:02:06.000We have Rand Paul urging supporters to write to the ATF and say stop this Obama ammo ban, because of course they are coming after ammunition.
00:02:14.000They've been doing that since Obama went in.
00:02:16.000That's one of the big changes under Obama.
00:02:19.000The gun controllers have realized that if you don't have a gun, With ammunition, you've got just a club.
00:02:26.000And that's what they've been going after.
00:02:28.000But we're also going to talk about now doing something besides begging these out-of-control, empire-building bureaucracies to respect our rights that are guaranteed under the Constitution they supposedly are there to uphold.
00:03:04.000Another empire-building bureaucracy, the EPA, they're out there trying to shut down wood stoves.
00:03:09.000And of course, Rob Dew did a report on that a few weeks ago, maybe about a month ago.
00:03:13.000Them trying to step up the regulations.
00:03:15.000But the interesting thing to me is, we now have states coming in and saying, you've gone too far.
00:03:21.000We're not going to allow you to take down wood stoves.
00:03:25.000And of course, we've been reporting on this for a long time.
00:03:27.000One of the first stories that I covered here when I came to InfoWars was a story that I was already working on, and that was in North Carolina, we had the EPA directly hooking people up to diesel tailpipes.
00:03:41.000Literally hooking them up to diesel tailpipes, looking for people, screening for people who had respiratory issues, who had heart issues, Lisa Jackson, who was then the head of the EPA, later taken out by an email scandal.
00:03:56.000Interestingly enough, we'll talk about Hillary Clinton's email problems.
00:04:00.000But Lisa Jackson went before Congress and said...
00:04:03.000We're not talking about making people sick, we're talking about deaths.
00:04:07.000And she made the amazing statement that more people were dying from fine particulate matter than were from cancer.
00:04:14.000Nevertheless, they went in and they did human experimentation at 70 times the level the EPA said was a problem, had banned.
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00:08:43.000He's actually, I think, become the poster child for how the government wants to shut down free speech to shut down journalists.
00:08:50.000Of course, this administration has gone after more journalists than all the other previous administrations combined since 1917 with the National Espionage Act that was passed then.
00:09:04.000They have also stepped up the penalties under the Computer Fraud Abuse Act.
00:09:08.000That is the act that they go after hackers with.
00:09:11.000Now, of course, Barrett Brown is not a hacker.
00:09:12.000Nobody ever accused him of being a hacker.
00:09:15.000He's a journalist who linked to some WikiLeaks documents.
00:09:19.000He was a journalist who was a pain in the side of the federal government talking about their Uh, cyber exploits, they're hacks.
00:09:28.000They're the ones who do the hacks, as Aaron Schwartz pointed out.
00:09:31.000They're the ones who create them, they're the ones who fund them, they're the ones who usually carry them out.
00:09:36.000And, of course, they don't like that being pointed out.
00:09:39.000He had an interesting article, basically when he was going through his trial, where they accused him falsely.
00:09:46.000of threatening an FBI agent when he was retweeting what a Fox News commentator had said, calling for the assassination of Julian Assange.
00:10:50.000The way he was getting railroaded, the way we're all being railroaded on so many different issues, he said, we no longer have the rule of law.
00:11:08.000And we have a lot of news about the bureaucracy that's out of line.
00:11:11.000We've got Anthony Gucciardi is going to be joining us in the third hour, talking about how the FCC is now trying to build their empire on the back of our freedoms on the internet.
00:11:22.000We have the FCC that's been coming in and saying we're going to control it.
00:11:26.000Now the FTC is coming in and saying we want to get in on the ads.
00:11:31.000And so we're going to exert control over ads that people run.
00:11:34.000So there is no limit to what these bureaucracies are going to do if we don't shut them down.
00:11:40.000But quickly, before we move on to some of the other news, and I really haven't been following this Hillary Clinton story that carefully because, you know, there's been so many criminal actions, so many scandals, and the Republicans never seem to follow through on any of these things.
00:13:53.000Well, I think that the fact that she's going to be putting them forward will allow us to make sure that people have the information they need.
00:14:02.000He doesn't have a transparent administration.
00:14:04.000The only thing transparent about this administration is its criminality and the fact that he is a transparent liar.
00:14:11.000Now, Rand Paul is urging supporters to stop Obama's latest ammunition ban.
00:14:16.000And of course, if you've got a gun without ammunition, you've got a club.
00:14:22.000And that's what they've been trying to do ever since Obama came into office.
00:14:25.000If you remember, right away when he came into office, he stopped the recycling of brass from the military into the commercial market.
00:14:32.000Now, of course, the military makes its own ammunition.
00:14:37.000It doesn't buy it on the retail market.
00:14:40.000So they stopped this, and that in and of itself would have created a massive disruption in ammunition prices and supplies.
00:14:48.000We had some senators who said, you've got to turn this policy back.
00:14:52.000What they were going to do was take the brass and instead of sending it to private manufacturers to make into ammunition to sell in the retail market, They were going to spend extra money to crush it into scrap metal and sell it to China.
00:16:32.000When we send a letter to the ATF and they look at it and they say, well gee, David doesn't like what I'm going to do in terms of banning ammunition.
00:17:01.000This is Representative Jim Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin, has introduced legislation to abolish the ATF and transfer its duties in part to the FBI.
00:17:12.000The ATF, he says, is scandal-ridden, largely duplicative agency that lacks a clear vision.
00:17:19.000Its quote-unquote framework is an affront to the Second Amendment.
00:17:25.000Yet another reason why Congress should pass the ATF Elimination Act.
00:17:30.000Now that's what you should be writing on.
00:17:33.000Don't waste... I mean, you can send a letter to the ATF, but if you want to really get behind something, send letters to the Republican congressmen, tell them to pass the ATF Elimination Act.
00:18:07.000Now, if that doesn't fly, she points out that Representative Tom Rooney of Florida has introduced the protecting Second Amendment rights in direct response to the ATF's crackdown on AR-15 type ammo, stripping the agency of its ability to regulate ammunition.
00:18:55.000And as the NRA has pointed out, very popular rounds of ammunition are larger and more powerful than the one that they're talking about banning right now.
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00:22:08.000As the New World Order continues to tighten its grip on every facet of our lives, we're all asking ourselves, how can we maintain our independence?
00:24:22.000I'm David Knight, your host on this Monday, March 9, 2015.
00:24:24.000We're going to be joined in the next hour, as I said before, with Barrett Brown.
00:24:29.000He's going to be coming on the show, talking to us from prison.
00:24:33.000We're going to have Staff Sergeant Joe Biggs, retired, who got to know Barrett Brown indirectly through Michael Hastings and others before Michael Hastings died.
00:25:12.000We have a government that has broken the chains that bound them down, the Constitution.
00:25:17.000And I think we need to understand the dire situation, the dire threat that we all are facing in terms of freedom of speech.
00:25:24.000They're coming at it from every angle.
00:25:26.000Trying to treat journalists as criminals, simultaneously shutting down the internet, simultaneously exerting control over the internet with both the FCC and now the FTC, the Federal Trade Commission, is now trying to get in on the regulation of the internet because that's going to be a major growth industry for government, bureaucrats.
00:25:45.000They can really grow their little empires by somehow finding something on the internet to regulate.
00:25:50.000But of course they're going to do it at the expense of our freedoms, our liberties.
00:25:55.000And so we're going to talk to Anthony Gucciardi in the third hour about that.
00:25:59.000Paul Joseph Watson is also going to be joining us in the third hour to talk about his recent reports on feminism and racism.
00:26:08.000Before we go to that, I wanted to continue with this report about the EPA coming after Woodstove Rules, because that's not new.
00:26:16.000As I pointed out, Rob Dew did a report about that.
00:26:18.000I've reported on their efforts to try to build their empire by regulating what they call fine particulate matter, how they've lied to people about it, how they've done human experiments.
00:26:27.000They're lying about the dangerous levels of fine particulate matter or they are guilty of experimenting on humans in a way that violates the Nuremberg Code.
00:26:41.000If what they're telling us about fine particulate matter is true, if it is as harmful as they have said it is, then they've exposed people to 70 times the level that they said would kill someone.
00:26:54.000You cannot even get people's informed consent for that kind of experimentation, and they did not give them a full explanation, completely informed them of what was going on, or the risks, according to the EPA.
00:27:07.000But I think it's very important because this is part of a broader movement that we see people waking up to the abuses of these federal bureaucracies.
00:27:15.000People who are waking up to the idea that they've banned pot, that we can't smoke pot, that we can't have pot for medicine, now they're going after our pot belly stoves, saying you can't even light up a piece of wood.
00:27:30.000This is the type of total control that we're going into, and of course the way they're trying to exercise this control, unconstitutionally, is by an expansive reading of the Commerce Clause.
00:27:42.000Saying that they get to regulate these types of things.
00:27:49.000Today we have a meeting that's going on, a United Nations meeting about drug prohibition.
00:27:55.000I interviewed a former Cook County prosecutor that's in Chicago.
00:28:00.000Jim Girok with Law Enforcement Against Prohibition a week ago.
00:28:04.000He was going to be going to this and trying to change the direction that the UN is going, change it from a law enforcement approach to treating it as a medical issue, as a spiritual issue, if you will.
00:28:17.000It should be treated as a dependency issue, not as law enforcement.
00:28:22.000It didn't work with alcohol prohibition.
00:28:24.000But more importantly, I had an epiphany when I interviewed Jim Garrick as I was preparing for this.
00:28:30.000I realized for the first time the real chronology of the war on drugs and how it began with the United Nations.
00:28:38.000How they came up with an agenda ten years before we had the declaration of a war on drugs by Richard Nixon.
00:28:45.000Nine years after they had created the agenda, complete with Schedule 1, Schedule 2, Schedule 3, Schedule 4 drugs, they worked it out to that detail, just like they do with UN Agenda 21.
00:28:56.000The UN works out these agendas, they create the legislation, they model it, and then they leave it to the sovereign states to enforce, because the UN doesn't currently have any way that they can enforce their laws.
00:29:07.000So they set out an agenda, And they make everybody think that, oh, this is something that people figured out in America, or they figured out the sustainability approach here in my local community.
00:29:22.000Agenda that's been fed to them and so that's what they did to us with the war on drugs with drug prohibition that came out from the UN and of course we started to get ideas about this as they were pushing back against the legalization of recreational use in Colorado and Washington now in Alaska the UN is furious about that because it's a UN agenda that's being pushed on us yet another reason why we should push that back
00:29:46.000We need to understand that it took a constitutional amendment to prohibit alcohol because they don't have the authority to prohibit it.
00:29:53.000Even under the Commerce Clause, that would only be interstate commerce, not within the states.
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00:33:39.000In the next hour, we're going to be talking with Barrett Brown from prison.
00:33:45.000We have Joe Biggs, who's going to be in here with me, and we're going to take a call from Barrett Brown.
00:33:49.000He is now free after being gagged about talking about the charges against him, about the conduct of the court.
00:33:55.000He's now going to be free to talk about that.
00:33:58.000I'm anxious to hear what he has to say.
00:34:00.000Of course, we've seen one article, at least, from him talking about it.
00:34:04.000And as he pointed out, and I've mentioned already a couple of times on the show, we no longer, this is what he said to the judge.
00:34:09.000He said, we no longer have the rule of law, we have the rule of law enforcement.
00:34:14.000We should understand what happened in his trial because they are changing the rules.
00:34:22.000They're changing it to do whatever they want to.
00:34:24.000They're taking away all of our legal rights.
00:34:27.000They're not just spying on us, but they take away our rights in court.
00:34:30.000And so we're going to talk to him about that, about the, uh, essentially the kangaroo trial that they had for him.
00:34:38.000We were just talking in the last segment about new rules from the EPA that would shut down wood stoves.
00:34:45.000And this is the way one person in Missouri put this.
00:34:48.000He said, people have been burning wood since the beginning of recorded time.
00:34:52.000They're trying to regulate it now out of existence, I believe, and they really have no concern about the economic consequences or the hardship that it's going to cause.
00:35:05.000They just want to extend their empire.
00:35:08.000The way they're getting these regulations for fine particulate matter is that they are lying to people.
00:35:14.000about the effects of these experiments that they're doing when they hook them up to diesel tailpipes.
00:35:20.000They're telling them that you might be sick for a little while, not telling them what the head of the EPA told Congress, that you're not talking about getting sick, we're talking about people dying.
00:35:44.000They're looking for black teenagers with asthma.
00:35:48.000So they're hooking up black teenagers with asthma to diesel tailpipes, trying to make them sick, so they can justify taking away your wood-burning stove.
00:35:58.000That's how out of control our feral government is.
00:36:06.000It is no longer... It's a pack of dogs who are out to hunt you down, to take your property, to take your freedom, to take your rights, to put you in jail like they did Barrett Brown.
00:36:17.000So we're going to talk to him in the second hour.
00:36:18.000We're going to talk to Anthony Gucciardi in the third hour about how yet another government agency, TC, the Federal Trade Commission, is now trying to hop on the internet bandwagon to regulate that.
00:36:30.000One of the ways that we push this back, there was an interesting story last week, about midweek, about a sled-in that was held on Capitol Hill.
00:36:40.000Well, they point out in the article, they say, those who don't live in Washington, D.C.
00:38:19.000It's one of the areas where they passed a decriminalization of recreational pot, is in Washington, D.C.
00:38:26.000And of course, the Republicans, especially because they're the ones who are pushing this the worst, The Republicans came back and said, no, we're going to cut the funding if you stop arresting people for pot.
00:38:42.000And as Rand Paul pointed out, the fact that Republicans like Jeb Bush Would still want to put people in jail who are using pot, not even for recreational purposes.
00:38:52.000That wasn't even the issue in Florida.
00:38:54.000And even though that constitutional amendment didn't pass in Florida because it didn't get 60%, it got 58% of the vote.
00:39:01.000The vast majority of people do not want to lock people up for doing something non-violent.
00:39:08.000That is really substantially no different from drinking.
00:39:12.000A lot less dangerous, quite frankly, than drinking.
00:39:15.000But there's also, in Florida, the element was people need this for medical purposes.
00:39:20.000We've got a representative, David Simpson, a great guy here in Texas.
00:39:24.000Twice he's introduced an amendment to stop the TSA from sexually molesting children especially, but all of us, none of us should be allowed, we shouldn't allow the TSA to sexually molest us.
00:39:36.000David Simpson put it in to stop them a few years ago.
00:39:39.000You may remember it passed unanimously in the House as it was getting ready to go to the Senate.
00:39:43.000The TSA threatened to turn Texas into a no-fly zone.
00:39:47.000They then got in touch with the lieutenant governor, David Dewhurst, who went straight from a career with the CIA, became lieutenant governor with spending more money than anybody has ever seen for that race before.
00:40:02.000Well, they got the CIA agent in, along with their threatening to turn Texas into a no-fly zone, and they stopped it.
00:40:10.000He reintroduced it in the next legislative session two years later.
00:40:15.000Now he's back with a law that says we're not going to lock people up who are using marijuana for medical purposes.
00:40:23.000It can be used for a lot of different things.
00:40:25.000It's one of the most effective medications for people suffering from MS or from glaucoma.
00:40:31.000It helps people who are suffering from nausea because they're going through uncontrollable nausea because they're going through chemotherapy for cancer, for AIDS.
00:40:39.000Why are we locking people up like this?
00:40:43.000Why would Jeb Bush lobby so hard to try to lock people up in Florida who use marijuana for medical purposes when he admits that he did it for recreational purposes as a young brat?
00:40:59.000Of course, he gets away with it because the rich and the powerful are never subject to these laws.
00:41:06.000One of the things that really concerned me this last week when I saw this, and I saw this, it was about a week ago, that this story was updated on USA Today.
00:41:17.000This is a story that's been going on since last November.
00:41:21.000And that is about this bioweapon that escaped in Tulane, got out of the level three safety lab, the biosafety lab level three.
00:41:31.000There's only four levels, so it's the next to the highest level.
00:41:35.000In Tulane, they're doing experiments on a rare bacteria, Burkholderia.
00:41:42.000Pseudomallei, and it is something that is not endemic to the United States, but it is part of the experiments that are going on throughout our country with the assistance of the CDC that are called Gain of Function.
00:42:00.000Well, by that they mean that they're going to modify the bacteria so that it is resistant to antibiotics, so that it is more transmissible, So that it is more dangerous, more deadly.
00:42:20.000And of course, we've had a lot of reports that, you know, there's good documentation that Lyme disease came out of the Plum Island facility.
00:42:30.000There's a lot of people who have asked questions as to why Tulane was experimenting in Sierra Leone with Ebola just prior to the massive outbreak that is still not under control in that country.
00:42:41.000It's the one country they haven't got it under control with.
00:42:44.000And of course it was John Rappaport who reported that in August of last year saying that they were essentially thrown out.
00:42:52.000By the Sierra Leone people, and it was Tulane University, the same people that have now had this leak.
00:42:58.000I want to put a little bit of perspective into this, a timeline.
00:43:01.000It was back in October, if you remember, that there was a lot of concern in Congress.
00:43:06.000They said there's been a lot of mishandling of very dangerous organisms that have been brought in for this gain of function, to be weaponized, if you will.
00:43:15.000These are things that the CDC calls select agents.
00:43:19.000Select agents have the potential to be weaponized, and so they bring them in to make weapons out of them.
00:43:29.000Congress held hearings, the Obama administration put a moratorium on it, so here you got Congress and Obama saying, let's put a moratorium on this.
00:43:37.000That's the way it was reported in much of the press.
00:43:39.000Actually, that's not what really happened.
00:43:42.000They said, we want to put a moratorium on any new funding, but we would like to have voluntary cessation, a voluntary halt for the people who are already involved in these, I think, mad science experiments.
00:43:58.000They continued to experiment, and then in November, they had two monkeys that were infected with this bacteria that has a 50% mortality rate in Thailand, where it's endemic.
00:44:11.000They found two monkeys that were outside of the biosafety lab.
00:44:39.000One of those inspectors comes down with the same bacteria the next day.
00:44:44.000Now they come back and they say, well, it took them a very long time.
00:44:49.000To say this, but now the CDC is saying, at first I said, well, you know, she's been a lot of places where she studies this bacteria, so she probably had this before because it can take anywhere from one day to several years before you exhibit symptoms, which makes it very, very dangerous.
00:45:09.000She was able to spread typhoid because she was not symptomatic.
00:45:15.000And so when you have something like this bacteria and it transmits by getting into the soil and into the water, when it is not generating symptoms for a very long time, it can continue to spread.
00:45:27.000That's what makes it very difficult to control.
00:45:30.000Nevertheless, what they said was, we don't think that she got sick here.
00:45:34.000She probably had picked this up previously.
00:45:37.000Now, when they looked at the monkeys, they were able to look at the particular strain and say, yes, this is the particular strain of this bacteria.
00:45:51.000To me, that's the dog that doesn't bark.
00:45:54.000They didn't come in and say, well, we've run this test and it is definitely not the same strain.
00:45:58.000Nevertheless, even after this happened, even after it was such an incredible breach that they, to have these monkeys outside of the bio lab come down with us, they still put another 170 monkeys outside.
00:46:12.000This is something that's also been reported from USDA.
00:46:15.000Then they started to look to see if it had spread.
00:46:18.000Looking in the soil, because that's where the bacteria likes to hang out in the soil.
00:46:22.000In one of the cages, half the size of a football field, they did four samples.
00:46:27.000They should have done, according to research that the USA Today reporter Allison Young pointed out, she pulled up a study which none of the science magazines pointed out.
00:46:37.000No one else pointed this out, but the one researcher who has been following these kinds of Mishandling of deadly organisms by the CDC, by these laboratories.
00:46:47.000She's really been on this from day one.
00:46:52.000She found a study in India that says there's no way that you're going to be able to find it from four samples in an area half the size of a football field.
00:46:58.000You're going to need to have at least a hundred samples.
00:47:06.000And now we find, this last week, there's been a fifth monkey that's come down.
00:47:10.000And as soon as that story came out, on Friday, we learned that there were another two monkeys.
00:47:15.000So we've gone from five monkeys now to seven monkeys in a very short period of time.
00:47:20.000It looks like we're getting pretty close to the 12 monkey scenario.
00:47:25.000But the real question is, why are we allowing them to do this kind of experimentation?
00:47:31.000It is absolutely, absolutely insane to allow the government to do this kind of experimentation to create weaponized forms of bacteria that if they accidentally get out of the lab or if they're deliberately taken out of the lab.
00:47:46.000What was the name of that guy here at the University of Texas that Alex has talked about so many times working in the biology department saying, if only we could reduce the human population by 99.9%?
00:48:28.000And of course, Having a moratorium on new research like this, and just saying that we're going to voluntarily take it down, absolutely does nothing to stop this.
00:48:43.000When I started researching this, of course, the University of Texas at Galveston, as well as Austin, is also involved in creating... Oh, this is the important part.
00:48:55.000They want to create a vaccine, so then I guess that once this gets outside the lab, then they can force us to take that vaccine.
00:49:01.000See, it's not the people who don't want to get their kids vaccinated, or who want to follow a different vaccination schedule, who want to spread it out instead of giving all the vaccines at once.
00:49:16.000We don't need to lose our informed consent.
00:49:20.000We don't need to go into some kind of a medical tyranny.
00:49:22.000The problem is the people who are going in and genetically modifying, and that's what they're doing with this, Burkholderia pseudomallei, they're immunizing people with recombinant forms of that.
00:49:41.000These are people who, as Allison Young pointed out in September when they were talking about all the security breaches there, she said, you've got people in spacesuits and they're running around the lab.
00:49:51.000They're looking for a little mouse that's on the loose that's been exposed to, I think it was Ebola or anthrax.
00:49:58.000This would be funny if it wasn't so serious.
00:50:02.000And yet these people, who are deliberately weaponizing stuff, who can't keep track of the little mouse who gets in, or you've got another deadly weaponized bacteria that jumps between one ferret to the other by going through the air, that's one of the things that got people very concerned about this, wanting to regulate this.
00:50:21.000They don't know how Ebola is transmitted exactly, because They can't control it.
00:50:27.000If they knew exactly how it was transmitted, I don't think it would still be on the loose in Sierra Leone.
00:50:36.000This is an interesting article, and I just, when I looked at this headline, where's the pathogen?
00:50:42.000This was from Microbe, it's a microbiology publication, and it's basically like, where's Waldo?
00:50:51.000It's like, can you find, within 500 acres and 50 samples, can you find the bacteria?
00:50:57.000And they said, we think that maybe this hasn't gotten out yet, but the callousness with which they're doing the cavalier attitude that they're showing to this is really concerning.
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00:54:27.000The next hour we're going to be talking to Barrett Frown from prison.
00:54:31.000Joe Biggs is going to be in here with me.
00:54:32.000We're going to give him a call, and he's going to tell you about the trial that he went through.
00:54:37.000But it's very important that we all understand how the government is coming after journalists, coming after our free speech, the freedom of the press, the First Amendment, just like they're coming after the Second Amendment.
00:54:49.000Like they're coming after the Fourth Amendment.
00:55:16.000Now before we go back to news, I've got some tech news I want to cover here besides the gain-of-function biology news that we just had in the last segment.
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00:56:22.000Now there was some amazing news on the Drudge Report.
00:56:25.000I saw a story linked to the Daily Mail about how the British government wants to get everybody to put a CCTV camera in every home.
00:56:33.000A closed-circuit television camera in every home.
00:57:06.000How do we stop the government burglars who are coming into our homes?
00:57:10.000They say, no, Britain needs more cameras in order to help fight crime.
00:57:14.000And he called on, this is the head of Scotland Yard, Sir Bernard Hogan Howe, said that families and businesses need to install cameras at eye level, so they can exploit advances in facial recognition technology.
00:57:31.000And a guy from an organization called Big Brother Watch said private closed-circuit television is completely unregulated.
00:57:39.000Recommending greater use of CCTV to gather more images of people's faces, often innocent people's faces, undermines the security of each and every one of us.
00:57:50.000And of course the way they do this in America To get around search warrants is they go to the web company that you deal with, or your ISP provider, or your cell phone provider, and they say, well, you know, these people are giving you their data voluntarily, so that's your data.
00:58:11.000It doesn't, you know, all this information about this person's private emails, and who they called when, and what they talked about, that's not their data.
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00:58:23.000That's what they're doing by putting it in people's homes.
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01:00:38.000I'm going to be joined in the next segment with Joe Biggs.
01:00:41.000And Joe and I are going to talk about Barrett Brown's case, give you a little bit of a background to it if you are not familiar with it.
01:00:48.000Because when we get Barrett Brown to join us at the bottom of the hour from prison, we want to give him the opportunity to talk as much as he wants about what has happened to him, about the implications of that for everybody.
01:01:01.000Not just for journalists, but for everyone.
01:01:55.000Saying that Barrett Brown was not a journalist.
01:01:57.000That Glenn Greenwald was not a journalist.
01:01:59.000We're going to give you some background on that as far as we know.
01:02:03.000Then we're going to be joined by Barrett Brown at the bottom of the hour.
01:02:07.000Going back to technology news, of course today is they and it's going to be coming out right about now if they haven't already done it.
01:02:14.000Apple is unveiling its new Apple Watch and of course one of the things that they're going to do with that is going to allow you to pay for everything.
01:02:21.000You can just walk around with this watch and all these ads, it'll be like Minority Report, where you walk past ads and it'll know who you are and it'll know your preferences because they know everything about you.
01:02:32.000Or they can pay for your transaction without having to take out your wallet.
01:02:36.000Just, you know, run this thing, buy it.
01:02:41.000As I pointed out last time, in the last segment, Britain is now calling on everyone to add closed circuit televisions to their homes at eye level and then feed that back to Scotland Yard so they can build their facial recognition database.
01:02:57.000Would people seriously volunteer for that?
01:03:00.000I guess they believe you would, because one of the documents that came out of the Snowden leak, we've talked about this before, it wasn't covered that widely in America, it was covered, it was broken by Der Spiegel in Germany, it was a press conference in Germany where this was shown, but they had several slides from Apple computer, and these were slides from the NSA.
01:03:24.000And they showed the iconic 1984 commercial for the Mac.
01:03:27.000And they said, who would have thought in 1984?
01:03:31.000And then the next slide shows Steve Jobs holding an iPhone.
01:03:35.000And then the caption says that this would become Big Brother.
01:03:38.000And then the third slide shows a lot of people standing in line to get their iPhones.
01:03:45.000And the caption says, and that people would line up to buy it.
01:03:49.000So the question is, are people going to line up to buy the next bit of Big Brother hip surveillance software, pay for their own surveillance?
01:03:58.000Are they going to put closed-circuit television cameras in their homes?
01:04:01.000Are they going to buy the watches that are going to be at eye level so they can feed facial recognition into the government?
01:04:10.000Or are we going to say we've had enough?
01:04:13.000It's looking worse all the time, of course, and if you look at what's happening in Venezuela, they're going to install finger scanners in supermarkets.
01:04:20.000Because they don't have enough food to feed people.
01:04:25.000They're cleaning off the shelves whenever they get any food.
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01:08:45.000We're going to have him join us at the bottom of the hour, calling in from prison.
01:08:49.000We don't want to waste any of the small amount of time that he gets on the prison phone, so we wanted to kind of Do our introduction and our background here before we got to Barrett Brown, and then we'll talk about what he has to say after he has to leave us.
01:09:09.000Yeah, Barrett was someone that I first heard about when I was speaking with Michael Hastings, you know, some years back.
01:09:16.000And after Michael passed, I started looking into You know what was going on and things that he'd been looking into as well and then kind of saw the connection between Barrett Brown and Michael Hasings.
01:09:28.000They were working a lot of things together.
01:09:29.000I spoke with Barrett not too long ago on the phone while he was in prison and he was telling me that he believes 99.9% that the FBI was for sure investigating Michael Hastings because the fact that he was helping with Barrett Brown when he had that Project PM going.
01:09:49.000Yeah, kind of a crowdsourcing investigation of the criminal activities of the corporations that were involved with the government.
01:09:54.000The kind of corporate government alliance to do criminal surveillance on everybody and the dirty tricks that they had come up with against targeting individuals that had been speaking out about this before the Snowden leaks.
01:10:07.000The big threats that they saw were from people like Barrett Brown.
01:10:11.000Glenn Greenwald and they specifically targeted them and we later saw the released slides of Palantir and HB Gary and others that were coming out saying let's identify who the key players are and let's essentially go after them, assassinate their character, put them in jail or assassinate them as the Fox News commentator called for Julian Assange to be assassinated.
01:10:36.000Yeah, and they go and use that against Bear Brown when he quotes that exact same... Yeah, yeah.
01:10:43.000Yeah, that was an amazing... When Julian Assange pointed that out, he said, everybody needs to understand that social media has all of your friends wearing a wire.
01:10:51.000And the government is going to use that information that they pick up, they're going to twist it, take it out of context, and make all kinds of... And of course, one of the things that I was surprised was
01:11:02.000When Barrett Brown was upset after they came in and were looking for a laptop, and he hid it at his mom's house, and his mom, as she pointed out, was kind of torn between maternal instinct and, you know, doing what they wanted her to do, and so they said, oh, you tried to assist him in hiding these laptops from us.
01:11:23.000He was very angry because they were going to Add a charge against his mother to try to get leverage against him, because they always add these extraneous charges, a lot of them total BS, to go after his mom.
01:11:37.000And so he was in a state of withdrawal.
01:11:40.000He had had some issues with drugs, and he puts up this video and said, basically, you've exposed my information to the Zeta cartel, trying to get them to come after me, because he had investigated the Zeta cartel along with Anonymous.
01:11:54.000And you've put this information out there for them.
01:12:40.000I've been trying to get a hold of him for About a year now.
01:12:44.000He's going through all kinds of different loops trying to contact his people and get it set up and I'm glad we're finally able to get this opportunity to speak to him because like I said I got to talk to him the other day.
01:12:56.000He's got a wealth of information, all around smart guy, great guy and it just sucks that you know the implications it has on journalism that sharing a link and quoting somebody can get you thrown in prison.
01:13:09.000And one of the reasons that we, of course, we could not get in touch with him was because the court had essentially put a gag order on him and on his lawyers, very much afraid of what he would say.
01:13:22.000And so they put a complete gag order on it.
01:13:24.000And one of the things that he said in the editorial that he wrote after his sentencing was, the good thing about it is at least now he's free to talk.
01:13:33.000And so that's why we tried to establish contact with him again.
01:13:37.000And of course, at the time that Michael Hastings died, he was not only working with the crowdsourcing Project PM to investigate the stuff, but he was also talking to Barrett Brown about his prosecution and investigating that as well.
01:13:57.000One of the interesting things that, when I look at the statement that Barrett Brown made to the judge, and of course the quote that I've repeated several times already in the program, I think we really need to hammer this home, because Barrett Brown is a very good writer.
01:14:10.000He's a very eloquent writer, and he really distills this down when he said, we no longer have the rule of law, we have the rule of law enforcement.
01:14:19.000I think that really distills what this comes down to, and as he pointed out to the judge, he says, this case does not just affect me.
01:14:28.000This is what he said to the judge, because he wanted to, this is in the, you know, before the judge sentenced him, and so, you know, he wanted to Kind of make an explanation so the judge would not give him as long of a sentence, but he wasn't backing down completely.
01:14:45.000He said, when we start fighting crime by any means necessary, and he's talking about the crimes committed by H.B.
01:14:53.000He says, when we start fighting crime by any means necessary, we become guilty of the same hypocrisy as the law enforcement agencies throughout history that break the rules to get the villain and then become villains themselves.
01:15:05.000And he says, understand that I run the risk of sounding combative, but I think your honor can walk and chew bubblegum at the same time.
01:15:12.000I think your honor understands that one can regret the unjust things that one has done, while also being concerned about the unjust things that have been done to him.
01:15:22.000I think, I'm really anxious to talk to him.
01:15:24.000One of the things, and of course you remember Joe, we've talked to Amber Lyon, because the research that she did in Bahrain, she was investigating the brutal crackdown in that US government ally against the pro-democracy movement there.
01:15:40.000She was working for CNN at the time, put together a documentary and CNN basically spiked the story.
01:15:46.000And she eventually wound up leaving CNN.
01:15:49.000One of the things that Barrett Brown points out is that they were coming after those laptops because they said, well, there's information there about how you're trying to overthrow the government of Bahrain with Amber Lyon.
01:16:02.000One of the most preposterous things I've ever seen.
01:16:04.000Yeah, they're trying to get his contacts.
01:16:06.000They're trying to find out who he's in contact with and then go after those people.
01:16:13.000As a journalist, you should be able to have your contacts and keep them private.
01:16:17.000And he really understood where this was headed.
01:16:19.000He goes, and let me again read from his statement to the judge, he's going to be joining us at the bottom of the hour so we want to go through this and just let him talk because he's got a lot to say.
01:16:29.000He said, the government claims those laptops contained evidence of a plot that I orchestrated to attack the kingdom of Bahrain on orders of Amber Lyon.
01:16:37.000Your Honor, Amber Lyon is a journalist, a former CNN reporter, who I know and respect, but I can assure Your Honor, I'm not in the habit of attacking Gulf state monarchies on her behalf.
01:16:46.000But then he goes on to point out, what you're really doing here is giving the Kingdom of Bahrain an excuse to keep her from ever getting back into the country, to ever do any more reports, because now they can come back and say, the Justice Department has said that she's trying to overthrow the government.
01:17:04.000They can refer to this charge that was put on there by the FBI and use that as a way to keep her out of the country.
01:17:11.000So there's always an alternative motive, isn't there?
01:17:15.000And one of the interesting things, too, that we were talking about, he had a copy of the Declaration of Independence at his home, and he'd come in and file that.
01:17:26.000Actually, the Twitter of that, he tweeted out what they actually said, and they go back and forth and say, well, I think we can give him his copy of the Constitution back.
01:17:38.000He said he, when he wrote this, This op-ed piece for the Daily Beast, after he was sentenced, he said, the title of it was, My Post-Cyberpunk Indentured Servitude, one of the things that he said was, I can now talk about some of the things that people would not even believe had happened before.
01:17:56.000He said, for them to seize my copy of the Declaration of Independence as evidence of his criminal activity, he says, I blushed to even put that in print because I don't think people would believe me.
01:18:07.000So that's a problem we get all the time.
01:18:09.000We get these documents, we put them out there, we even link to the documents like he tweeted out the image of the court order saying, I think you can give him his Declaration of Independence back.
01:18:21.000Joe, that was actually part of the plea bargain.
01:18:23.000That he would give out his Declaration of Independence.
01:18:30.000You know, we've been saying it for the longest time that, you know, patriots, people who love the Constitution, they are now the government's number one threat.
01:18:39.000And I mean, this right here is just another proof of that entire thing.
01:18:42.000I mean, it's crazy that they're going to go and file that as some kind of criminal... Well, you know... It's crazy, this world we live in right now.
01:18:53.000Before that, Alex's documentary is actually showing training sessions from the federal government, training local law enforcement, putting up pictures of the founders of this country, saying these guys are terrorists.
01:19:05.000Anybody who quotes them are terrorists.
01:19:10.000Now, you know, I don't know, but Barrett Brown has been writing for the Daily Beast and for Huffington Post and the Guardian, kind of left-wing publications that tend to discount the idea that the government is coming out there to shut down any dissent.
01:19:25.000They've been kind of pooh-poohing that idea, pooh-poohing the idea that patriots are the focus and not foreign terrorists, not Islamic terrorists.
01:19:36.000They've kind of pushed back against that and said that's not true at all.
01:19:39.000That's why they wouldn't believe that the FBI would take his declaration of independence.
01:19:43.000That they would say we're going to keep that as part of your plea bargain agreement.
01:19:46.000But we've been saying, Alex Jones and Infowars have been saying that for years.
01:19:50.000I mean, those have been people that we have those little pocket constitution books, you know.
01:19:54.000I've spoken to people said they've been pulled over and the police call that contraband.
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01:24:20.000I'm David Knight, and joining me in the studio is Joe Biggs.
01:24:23.000And we're going to be talking to Barrett Brown from prison in the next segment.
01:24:28.000Trying to give you a little bit of a background in case you're not familiar with the case or what has recently happened.
01:24:33.000And of course, when he wrote his op-ed piece for the Daily Beast after he was sentenced, entitled at my post, Cyberpunk Indentured Servitude, He says that when he was sentenced to 63 months in federal prison, Reporters Without Borders cited his case as a key factor in reducing America's press freedom rankings from 33 to 46.
01:24:59.000Very concerned about this, because this directly impacts upon our freedom of the press.
01:25:05.000But talk about his indentured servitude, Joe.
01:25:09.000Alright, I'm going to read a paragraph from the My Post Cyberpunk Indentured Servitude article.
01:25:14.000It says, I also had to plead to an accessory after the fact charge for having contracted the corporate espionage outfit Stratford after some anonymous affiliated hackers stole several million of the firm's emails and vowed to publish them online.
01:25:27.000I offer to arrange with the hackers to redact any of those communications that could potentially have endangered any foreign contacts if made public.
01:25:35.000For this, I will not only serve additional prison time, but have also been ordered to pay the company over $800,000.
01:25:44.000And of course, one of the reasons that they came up with such a large figure, I'm sure, is because they figured, well, he could write a book.
01:25:51.000He's someone who's written books, successful books.
01:25:54.000He's written for dozens of magazines and newspapers, as he points out.
01:25:58.000Yet, they wanted to continually assert that he wasn't a journalist in order to denigrate what he was doing, to say that this wasn't a First Amendment issue.
01:26:21.000Some of the best stories have been turned up by bloggers.
01:26:25.000So you don't have to be an official journalist that gets a paycheck each time it works for a big-name mainstream media newspaper.
01:26:32.000They're not the ones who are breaking the news in most cases anyway.
01:26:36.000They're not the ones who want to follow the story wherever it leads.
01:26:39.000Or in the case of Amber Lyon, as we saw, whenever she works for CNN as a journalist, they spike the story And she goes independent, but I guess now she's not officially a journalist.
01:26:49.000But that's the very dangerous thing, is that, as he points out, he said it would be one thing if the government was putting forth some sort of standard by which journalists could be defined.
01:26:57.000Well, yeah, that would be bad enough, because we don't want them to put a box around free speech.
01:27:05.000They're just saying, well, uh, you know, I don't think the First Amendment applies here, doesn't apply there.
01:27:09.000That's why he said, we no longer have the rule of law, we have the rule of law enforcement, because they interpret it to mean whatever they want at any given time.
01:27:18.000District Judge Sam Lindsay says they didn't express any visible interest in the fact that the FBI itself has acknowledged having actually overseen the Hakim Strafford.
01:27:29.000He is confidential informant, or rat, Hector Sabu.
01:27:55.000You know, he linked to emails, and we recorded his conversations, because they record all the conversations, of course, while he's in custody.
01:28:02.000And the judge says, well, he didn't know there was any, he thought there was nothing in there but emails.
01:28:08.000And he says here, two days before his sentencing, the Department of Justice withheld from his defense team sealed chat transcripts from Jeremy Hammond's hacking case, which contradicted its claim that he was a co-conspirator in the Stratford case.
01:28:25.000So that's some of what we want to talk to Barrett Brown about.
01:28:29.000But again, this is a case that affects everybody.
01:28:32.000Whether or not you're a journalist, you want journalists to be free.
01:28:36.000You want people on the internet to have freedom of speech.
01:28:39.000They're coming at us from every possible angle.
01:28:41.000They're coming at us from a regulatory agency, with the FCC, with the FTC.
01:28:46.000They're coming after the journalists, putting them in jail.
01:28:49.000They have just under what Obama proposed with the State of the Union was to step up the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, the CFAA, which is what they came after Aaron Schwartz with.
01:29:00.000They want to step that up from misdemeanor crimes to felony crimes.
01:29:03.000And they want to extend it to RICO statutes.
01:29:05.000And quite frankly, they already did it in his case, even though they didn't have the authority to do it in his case.
01:29:12.000Yeah, ever since the Obama administration has been in power, I mean, there has definitely been a huge war on journalists in this country.
01:29:23.000Prosecuted under the 1917 Espionage Act.
01:29:27.000I think it was like three times the number of people prosecuted under the 1917 Act in the Obama administration than all of the previous administrations since 1917 combined.
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01:33:37.000Now if you want to get in touch with Barrett Brown, let me give you his contact information before he comes online because we want to let him Talk as much as he would like to, so let me give you this information while we're waiting for him.
01:33:48.000If you want to get to him on Twitter, it's FreeBarrett underscore.
01:33:58.000His Facebook page is FreeBarrettBrown, and you can also look at his website, Echelon2.org.
01:34:08.000Joe, one of the things that got my attention, of course, you just got back from Chicago where there were allegations that people were being held there.
01:34:16.000The Guardian reported this, being held for periods of time without being arraigned, people being tortured in this one particular site, Holman Square.
01:34:26.000He was held for two weeks without charge back in October 2012.
01:34:32.000And finally they indicted him and of course what he was indicted for was conspiring to release personal information about a government employee.
01:34:39.000That seems to be the big crime that they came after him for.
01:34:42.000As I said before, there are so many felonies out there that the general public can't even keep up with all the laws that the government and the bureaucracies are enacting all the time.
01:35:09.000So when I, when I talked to him on the phone the other day, He was saying if he was willing to play ball with him that he could get out in about a year.
01:35:16.000But he said, I'm not going to do that.
01:35:26.000That's the kind of attitude that he has.
01:35:29.000Again, as I pointed out in the previous segment, his conviction.
01:35:33.000Was cited by an organization, Reporters Without Borders, cited as a key factor in reducing America's press freedom ranking from 33 to 46.
01:35:42.000Ladder Levinson, who is the guy that ran the email service that was used by Ed Snowden, if you remember, the NSA came to Ladder Levinson and said, give us all of his emails.
01:35:52.000And he said, I'm not going to do that.
01:35:55.000And he shut his email service down, his business down, rather than turn that stuff over to the NSA.
01:36:01.000So, Ladder Levinson is somebody who sincerely cares about...
01:36:06.000Respecting our individual rights that have been respected under the Constitution, but ignored by our government.
01:36:11.000He went to the trial and he told the Guardian, he said, this is the type of verdict that leads honorable men to take up the quill and pin strong statements.
01:36:21.000But I fear that for some people, words will not be sufficient.
01:36:26.000So, some people are not just going to be upset and write about this.
01:36:29.000He's concerned some people are going to take action about that.
01:36:36.000So he has kind of an interesting attitude.
01:36:39.000Barrett said that after exposing the cyber security military industrial complex, he's now going to be investigating the prison industrial complex for the next 35 months or so.
01:36:57.000And getting free food and clothing as he's going to be exposing their wrongdoing.
01:37:07.000We cannot just cower down in front of a government that is taking our freedoms.
01:37:13.000He tried in his statement to the judge to be respectful, but he says, You know, you gotta understand that I can be respectful and be regretful about how I have taken some other people's rights and still be angry about how mine were seized.
01:37:26.000And that was essentially what was going on with the, you know, making the threat on YouTube against the FBI agent who had charged his mother, who had essentially released his own personal information to try to get him attacked by the Zeta, Of course, there's no recrimination or no crimes that that FBI agent is charged with.
01:37:48.000But then if he does that in return, which is what he was talking about, then they come after him with massive felonies.
01:37:55.000Yeah, this stuff keeps happening nonstop.
01:37:59.000I mean, it's just I just don't even know how to put it in words sometimes.
01:38:04.000As a journalist, you've got to watch your back every step of the way now, because these guys are trying to come after you.
01:38:11.000They want to threaten you, but you go and you quote someone, and they want to use that against you, and then threaten your mom, and that's... We just had, at the beginning of the program, we had Obama talking about the emails from Hillary Clinton, and he said, several times, he talked about how transparent they were.
01:38:28.000I mean, this is the least, you know, he ran on transparency.
01:38:33.000The biggest lie, I mean, you know, if people want to, and they should get angry about the Democrats and everybody, Republicans as well, should get angry about the lies of George Bush that got us into Iraq, about weapons of mass destruction.
01:38:48.000How about getting angry about the big lie of the Obama administration?
01:38:53.000I mean, you could come up with a lot of them.
01:38:54.000But the one that they were going to base their administration on transparency, and yet, he has charged journalist after journalist.
01:39:02.000Every time something happens, they go after the whistleblower.
01:39:05.000And try to put the whistleblower in jail, and they never correct the criminal actions that were done by the government officials, or by the big banks.
01:39:14.000We see the big banks constantly being given a pass.
01:39:16.000We've got HSBC laundering money, being caught laundering money for drug dealers, for drug cartels, for terrorist organizations.
01:39:25.000And rather than put any of them in jail, we had the Justice Department say, that wouldn't serve the public interest to put any bank officials in jail.
01:39:34.000That gave them a small fine compared to the amount of money that they had, profit that they had made, and let these people walk.
01:39:42.000I mean, we see them coming with draconian prosecutions against small people, independent people, but the biggest criminals go free.
01:40:11.000I know you were telling me that he has lunch between 1 and 3, somewhere in that time.
01:40:16.000They don't really give him an exact time, but it's somewhere in that time.
01:40:18.000So that's why we try to set up for 1233 before that happens.
01:40:22.000Well, in terms of when you talked to him about Michael Hastings, again, what did he, you know, did he have any insight as to what did he know about the circumstances of Michael Hastings' death?
01:40:36.000He hasn't been given all the full details about what's been going on, but like I said, the fact that the FBI came out and said, no, we're not investigating him, and then they come out and say, well, we're looking into him for what they called controversial journalism.
01:40:54.000But they still deny the fact that they were looking into him for anything else.
01:40:58.000And Bear Brown was saying, I know for a fact that they were looking into him because he was a contact of mine when I was putting together Project PM.
01:41:06.000And he said the FBI had everyone's, uh, IP addresses.
01:41:09.000Anybody was in contact with him for that.
01:41:13.000When this first happened, and we started following this, we knew from looking at the way the accident happened that that didn't happen from him.
01:41:20.000The car did not explode and he checked the engine at a right angle, way down the road, when it hit into a tree.
01:41:30.000There's no way that a vehicle is going to hit a tree and then the engine is just going to miraculously ricochet off and bounce down the road.
01:41:41.000So that was consistent with the car being blown up and then going into a tree, which was also consistent with the fact that the gas tank was not compromised in any way, shape or form.
01:41:49.000Why would it catch fire if the gas and burn that thoroughly if the gas tank had not been compromised?
01:41:55.000So we were concerned about that from the very beginning.
01:41:57.000We said it looks like there was foul play here from the very beginning.
01:42:01.000Then it starts coming out that he is tweeting people and emailing people saying, I have to go undercover.
01:42:08.000As we followed the investigation, he was looking under his car, looking into his car, worried that somebody had put something on it, a bomb.
01:42:15.000They even told the person that he was living with about that.
01:42:19.000But it was tweeted out that he was being investigated by the FBI, and the FBI denied that.
01:42:25.000But then when you talked to Barrett Brown, the president, he said, well, of course they were investigating him, because they investigated everybody that was involved with Project PM.
01:42:32.000Well, he said one of the things is, I don't know if anybody knows about Barrett Brown, he went on a kind of a a rant and he was high at the time.
01:42:41.000And he said, all during those times, I never once imagined that I was being investigated by the FBI.
01:42:49.000He's like, those things didn't just pop in my head.
01:42:51.000He's like, that's not a side effect of what I was taking.
01:42:53.000And the fact that the government's coming out and the police officers and everyone out there are saying that he was being deranged and thought that the FBI was coming after him because of the drugs that he was on.
01:43:18.000And that's the thing is that, you know, for the longest time, Alex Jones has been talking about how they're monitoring our phone conversations, they're monitoring our computer monitors, they're looking through the cameras that are on your monitor.
01:43:31.000We knew that this was happening because we had people telling us.
01:43:36.000Even when we would link to the articles that other people had reported about David Petraeus bragging that your refrigerator is going to be spying on you, he's going to be collecting information, everything in your household, the internet of things.
01:43:50.000All of the things put together into a linked internet.
01:43:54.000They're going to be sending that information back to the government.
01:43:57.000Everybody laughed at us until the Snowden leaks.
01:43:59.000That was the one thing that changed things around, but we still haven't seen anything.
01:44:03.000We've seen a public perception change of it, and we've seen an acceptance of it almost by the public, but not any change.
01:44:22.000I mean, I had to... Well, see, that's the really dangerous thing because they just said, I think it was last week, that Google was going to go through a different ranking schedule.
01:44:31.000Rather than looking at the popularity links coming into a website, people visiting a website, rather than using that to rank sites on the searches, they were going to evaluate the truthfulness.
01:44:43.000Who are they to evaluate the truthfulness?
01:44:45.000And they even mentioned Snopes as somebody that was going to be used to evaluate the truthfulness of something.
01:44:50.000So, if they say it doesn't happen, then those articles are basically going to be delisted from the search engine, and you're not going to be able to find a dissenting point of view.
01:45:00.000No matter how popular that point of view is, you're not going to find it with Google.
01:45:03.000It's going to have to be done... It's going to be propaganda.
01:45:07.000Yeah, it's going to have to be done by, we're essentially going to have to set up committees of correspondence and it's going to have to be done outside of the kind of social media platforms that you see with Facebook and Twitter because they're going to start shutting that down as well.
01:45:19.000So you're going to have to come up with some other way to share the information.
01:45:23.000Yeah, they said they're going to use some kind of algorithm that will go through and it will decide whether or not it's true.
01:45:29.000And just like Facebook coming out saying they're going to have a new button that you can report a story for fake news.
01:45:36.000So, you know, you get all these trolls on there and it doesn't take multiple people clicking on fake news on that button.
01:45:41.000It only takes one person and it's labeled as fake news and removed.
01:45:44.000And we know that the government pays trolls.
01:45:48.000We know that they have robotic programs that become trolls.
01:45:52.000I mean, I don't even know that they're still paying people at the Department of Justice and the FBI to troll our website, or if they've just got automated robots that do that using AI.
01:46:01.000They're paying Snopes, the guy, the lady, and their cat.
01:46:08.000Well, the very dangerous thing about it is that, you know, of course, that whole system in terms of truthiness, it is just, it's another way that they're going to come after content.
01:46:19.000They're looking at regulating content.
01:46:21.000The FCC first started making moves again to regulate content, and they've done that in the past.
01:46:26.000They had the Fairness Doctrine for broadcast media, and that was fortunately overturned in the Reagan administration by Bruce Fine, who went on to work for Ron Paul.
01:46:37.000But, and that really opened things up in talk radio, and then of course the internet opened up, and so they've got to get those things shut down, because that's the real threat to their base.
01:46:47.000The real threat to their base is changing people's hearts and minds, because if you don't change people's hearts and minds, if somebody goes in and tries to re-establish the Constitution by force at this point, they're going to be, if the people aren't with them in sufficient Mass.
01:47:03.000They're going to just be looked at as the violent aggressors.
01:47:06.000It's going to be very easy to shut down anybody who tries to use violence at this point.
01:47:50.000We've walked the streets and that was one creepy feeling.
01:47:54.000Walking through the street with the traffic lights operating and everything, a replica of an American city there and we know that they're training for this type of thing.
01:48:03.000But going back to the truthfulness stuff, when you talk about the ammo cells, When Paul Joseph Watson found that, and we broke that story, he linked directly to the RFPs from the government saying we want these massive amounts of ammunition and they continued, they said it's not real.
01:48:20.000Even though he linked to the documents themselves, the mainstream media pushed back on that and continued to push back on it.
01:48:28.000Snopes themselves came back and said, well, you know, they took one of the smallest ones from like the Social Security Administration or the Weather Administration and said, look, That's a very small amount.
01:48:37.000They're just buying it for target practice.
01:48:39.000It's like, well, why does the Weather Administration, you know, need to have arms?
01:49:25.000And that's what we're concerned about, that they can push those stories down.
01:49:29.000Joe, even after this all broke, even after you even had conservative news outlets like Breitbart picking this up and running with it, even after you had congressmen saying, Questioning why is Homeland Security buying so much ammunition?
01:49:45.000Even after all that, we had National Review come out and attack Alex Jones, saying that he was some kind of a prophet of doom, running some kind of a church thing or whatever, and he was even getting the Republican congressman to join him in this nonsense about the government buying ammunition.
01:50:25.000This stuff is not going to get any better and the American people need to wake up a lot quicker because, like I said, these guys are doing everything they can to ramp up their war against us.
01:50:34.000Taking our freedoms away, our liberties, our right to say something, our right to link to something, our right to quote someone is all being used against us.
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01:54:46.000So we were hoping that he'd be able to do that.
01:54:50.000If he does call in later in the show, in case it was something that was just circumstances and not outright censorship, then we will certainly take his call whenever he calls in.
01:55:00.000Yeah, I just shot him a real quick email asking if everything was okay on his end.
01:55:06.000If anything comes up, just give me a call or shoot me an email so we can know that he's fine and that there's no censorship going on as well.
01:55:15.000Yes, and although we didn't get a call from Barrett Brown yet, I did just get a call from Alex, and we are launching an unprecedented cell on DNA Force today.
01:55:24.000Just for a short period of time, Alex wants everyone to be able to experience DNA Force like he has, and so we're launching a discount like we've never done before on that.
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01:55:46.000That's under $100 for the first time ever.
01:55:49.000So you can find that at our site and that's how we support this operation.
01:55:53.000That's how we send Joe Biggs to places like Chicago and Ferguson where he gets shot with rubber bullets, tear gassed and frozen to death.
01:56:04.000Yeah, I was on tour this weekend with a band and all those guys take the Super Mel Vitality.
01:56:08.000They take it right before they go out on stage, get them amped up, they go out, they perform, and then, you know, go off and they said they love it.
01:56:15.000They've been taking it for as long as they can.
01:56:53.000Well, they are, you know, one of the things about his car, of course, and one of the things that was interesting about Michael Hastings was you and other people had said that he was someone who drove extremely slowly.
01:57:21.000Mercedes has been at the forefront of driver-assisted computer-controlled components, which they're now merging together into these autonomous self-driving cars, as I like to point out.
01:57:34.000No, self-driving is what you have now, but that's the headline up there on Wired Magazine.
01:57:40.000They say, the number of car crashes, once we get these self-driving cars, will plummet.
01:57:45.000Liberated from the need to keep our hands on the wheel and our eyes on the road, drivers will become riders with more time for working, leisure, and staying in touch with loved ones.
01:57:54.000In other words, like, pull that picture up again, guys, and show this.
01:57:57.000The picture that they've got at the top is four people sitting in a, facing each other with virtual...
01:58:07.000Yeah, reality goggles on their head on...
01:58:10.000That's what we've seen in the Mercedes vehicle.
01:58:12.000They've got cameras on the outside of the car and projectors on the inside where you'd normally have windows to spare you from having to actually use your eyes to look outside.
01:58:23.000And you think these things are going to be safer?
01:58:26.000Nobody who's seen the blue screen of death from IBM is really going to want to get into a car where you don't have a steering wheel and you don't have any brakes because it's people who make mistakes that are going to be programming those things.
01:58:38.000This is the next step in the police state right here.
01:58:40.000That's the way they control, and that's the thing.
01:58:42.000If you can't beat the car, you can control it, you can assimilate it like the board.
02:00:37.000I'm David Knight, your host today, and with me again in this segment is Joe Bigg.
02:00:41.000We've still been waiting for a call from Barrett Brown.
02:00:44.000It looked like someone was trying to call in on that line.
02:00:47.000We weren't able to get through, so we're going to, if we can get him through, we're going to go to him live, depending on whatever segment we're in, we're going to go to him live.
02:00:56.000But in the last segment, Joe, we were talking about these autonomous cars, and I'm very concerned about it because of the control that it's going to give the government over our movements.
02:01:08.000We should all be very concerned about that.
02:01:09.000We should understand that this is something that the government has wanted to control movement in this country.
02:01:16.000That's what's really behind the move for public transportations.
02:01:20.000They don't like us having cars that we drive ourselves.
02:01:23.000That's why they're offering us the quote-unquote self-driving cars, the autonomous cars, because they will be able to control it.
02:01:30.000And they're going to push us out of our regular cars by these boxes that are being mandated, the vehicle-to-vehicle boxes that are going to be constantly talking back and forth to each other with South by Southwest coming up.
02:02:30.000The government was involved in the creation of the interstate system primarily because the military had a use for it.
02:02:36.000It was Eisenhower who wrote a book, a small book, about how he tried to take a division from one area of the United States to another and how difficult it was.
02:02:45.000And then they saw the autobahn in Germany.
02:02:46.000Of course, Hitler built the autobahn so that he could rapidly deploy forces across that.
02:02:51.000That was the rationale when Eisenhower became president to do that.
02:02:54.000But of course, on the other hand, they've been hating on the car for the longest period of time.
02:03:00.000And it isn't because they're concerned about car accidents.
02:03:04.000It isn't because they're concerned about pollution or climate change.
02:03:07.000It's because they don't like people having the ability to move themselves around.
02:03:12.000They don't want us owning our own cars.
02:03:15.000The title of this article, Self-Driving Cars Will Make Us Want Fewer Cars, and they said we can free ourselves from the archaic model of the multi-car household.
02:03:23.000Yeah, who would want to have more than one car in a household?
02:04:03.000When you and your business partner are having a secret conversation about, you know, some kind of transaction that's going to happen, whatever, they're going to use that.
02:04:09.000So these self-driving cars are just going to be microphones that can be hacked into.
02:04:14.000Everybody's going to be able to listen to it.
02:04:16.000When you start reading the user terms and all that in there, it'll even clearly say, like in my phone, that the NSA can take whatever they want.
02:04:24.000They're not responsible for any data that might be lost off of my phone due to their snooping around.
02:04:34.000This is complete and total control over American citizens and this will be the beginning of enslavement.
02:04:40.000And there's a kind of corporate fascism involved here as well, because the CEO of Uber has said, what makes the cars expensive is the dude in the car.
02:04:47.000Once that dude goes away, then the whole rationale for owning your car goes away.
02:04:52.000But of course, he will own all the cars.
02:04:55.000And the government, he'll work with the government to control your transportation.
02:04:58.000I wonder how many politicians are going to be willing to drive or get in one of those things.
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02:08:08.000If you are receiving this transmission, you are the resistance. - Live from the Infowars.com studios, it's Alex Jones.
02:08:36.000Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show on this Monday, March 9th, 2015.
02:08:44.000I'm David Knight, your host today, and we're going to be talking to Paul Joseph Watson.
02:08:50.000Before we go to Paul, I just want to repeat yet again that there is a bill up by the GOP to actually shut down the ATF.
02:08:59.000It's the ATF Elimination Act that's being offered by Representative Jim Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin.
02:09:06.000He's introduced legislation to abolish the agency and transfer its duties to the FBI.
02:09:11.000He says their very framework is an affront to the Second Amendment and another reason why Congress should pass the ATF Elimination Act.
02:09:21.000Write your congressman, tell them you don't want them banning ammunition.
02:09:24.000You can write the ATF if you want to hear them laugh and tell them that you don't like them making up these kinds of rules and just arbitrarily declaring that they're going to take away certain Certainly ammunition, of course they'll extend that as they see fit.
02:09:38.000The key thing is support him in this to eliminate the ATF.
02:09:42.000Let's get rid of one of these parasitic, out of control, government regulatory empires.
02:09:48.000And the ATF is a great one to start with.
02:09:50.000The ATF Elimination Act, write your congressman, tell them you want that passed.
02:09:56.000Now, Paul Joseph Watson is joining us now.
02:09:58.000I wanted to talk to Paul about this article he had up about Team Hillary conducting secret polls to test fallout of email scandal.
02:10:19.000They're calling up people in Iowa, like the Hillary Clinton voters, and asking them a series of questions about their negative views towards Hillary Clinton.
02:10:29.000So, at first the speculation was, you know, is this poll being run by one of her potential Democratic challengers, or is it being run by the Republicans?
02:10:39.000But it's since emerged that almost certainly it's being conducted by the Hillary Clinton campaign team itself.
02:10:46.000So it seems as though in the aftermath of this email scandal, they're very concerned about voter perception of Hillary Clinton because...
02:10:55.000Up until now she's had over 60% favorability ratings over her presumptive Republican challengers, everyone from Jeb Bush to Rand Paul.
02:11:06.000That lead was fixed, it was locked in for months and months beforehand.
02:11:10.000Now we see that margin of favorability in comparison to the Republican candidates starting to slip And it started to slip noticeably according to a new Washington Times poll after this email scandal emerged.
02:11:25.000So this is being done under the radar, but they're asking potential voters, likely voters in Iowa, a series of questions about Whether Hillary Clinton can be trusted with national security, whether she's a trustworthy person, whether the Benghazi scandal was a real scandal or whether it was just hyped for political purposes.
02:11:46.000So it seems that Team Hillary is very concerned in the aftermath of this email scandal.
02:11:51.000Yeah, and of course, when we started talking about this, you said there was speculation as to whether or not it could be one of her Democrat opponents, and there's not really much in terms of Democrat opponents, or the Republicans, because what they'll do, of course, Paul, is negative push polling.
02:12:05.000But that typically is done Just before an election that's what it has the the most effect basically you call up and you ask the people on the telephone How would it affect you if you knew something and you tell them something negative about that candidate?
02:12:20.000That's a way of basically Uh, dishing dirt on somebody without it sounding like you're dishing dirt on them.
02:12:37.000It shouldn't just, uh, get her out of the running for, uh, being a Democrat nominee.
02:12:41.000But of course, we seem to be very tolerant of, uh, criminals at the upper level of government nowadays, aren't we?
02:12:48.000Well yeah, and of course, this was completely expected, but the other article I wrote today on InfoWars is, now Hillary Clinton supporters are responding to the criticism of her because of this email scandal by characterising it as sexist.
02:13:06.000Years before or even after Obama was elected, criticism of Obama amongst his supporters was characterised and sidelined as racism.
02:13:17.000So now we're seeing the gender card being played over and over again by Hillary supporters.
02:13:21.000And this is going to characterise the next 18 months going forward.
02:13:26.000So the article on InfoWars, there's a Daily Kos blog which actually says that concern over Hillary keeping her emails hidden Is based on, quote, Republican fear of having a vagina in control of the White House.
02:13:42.000That's a quote from the Daily Kos article.
02:13:45.000They say that Hillary is an intelligent, philanthropic, loud and proud feminist that scares middle-aged white men.
02:13:52.000So that's the reason why she's being questioned over these emails according to liberals and Hillary supporters is not because it, you know, illustrates the fact that she's completely untrustworthy, can't be trusted with national security.
02:14:05.000There's a huge gap as we found out yesterday from Gowdy who's investigating this on CBS Face the Nation.
02:14:11.000There's a huge gap in the emails which show that it looks like she's hiding communications during the whole Libya debacle.
02:14:55.000We got Lois Lerner pretending that she's lost all these emails that would Expose her to having targeted, as political enemies, different Tea Party groups.
02:15:08.000She said, oh, I lost all those emails.
02:15:09.000Hillary Clinton had her own private server for this.
02:15:12.000She just didn't, she didn't have just a email, a different email account.
02:15:18.000She was deliberately trying to set this apart into a parallel, non-transparent, secretive, illegal activity.
02:15:29.000Exactly, and I mean, that's just one aspect of it.
02:15:32.000But again, if they can tie it to this gender issue, to this sexism issue, to this feminism issue, they hope to dull the criticism that is inevitably going to be hurled at Hillary Clinton.
02:15:44.000And there's another example of that today.
02:15:46.000The Clinton Foundation, the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation released a video yesterday which just by coincidence got on the front page of YouTube.
02:15:57.000Not that they're promoting it at all, it just got on the front page and got 300,000 views overnight.
02:16:02.000And it's about, basically it features a bunch of actresses, Cameron Diaz, all these top actresses, decrying, quote, the wage gap in the United States.
02:16:13.000Now, first of all, the wage gap is a completely contrived myth.
02:16:18.000You know, this idea that Women are being paid 77 cents on the dollar compared to men.
02:16:26.000If you take into factor differences in occupations and hours worked per week, when you account for all those factors, the wage gap completely vanishes.
02:16:37.000So from the very foundation, this argument is a debunked myth.
02:16:41.000If you drill into the actual statistics, and yet it's one being pushed by feminists and by the Hillary Clinton campaign,
02:16:49.000Because they've tied their cart horse to third wave feminism, so they're using the same debunked fraudulent arguments to advance this agenda that Hillary Clinton is going to be fighting for women, for equality in the United States, when actually her own foundation, the Clinton Foundation, who released this video, pays its female staff just 63 cents
02:17:15.000For every dollar that top senior male executives who work for the Clinton Foundation make.
02:17:22.000So there is a real wage gap controversy and it's within the Clinton Foundation itself.
02:17:28.000Nationwide in the United States it's a complete myth.
02:17:31.000But if you look at the Clinton Foundation and their IRS tax filings have come out, They're paying a 37% salary disparity between what they pay male executives and what they pay female executives.
02:18:01.000As you're pointing out, within her own foundation, when they look at female executives versus male executives within that same business, they see that kind of wage disparity.
02:18:12.000But when they look at it across the population as a whole, like Cameron Diaz did, then they're not comparing and adjusting for the fact that women are in a different kind of profession than men would be.
02:18:22.000Or that they're not working their entire life.
02:18:25.000Or that they're working part-time and staying at home with the children part-time.
02:18:28.000The different career choices that they make will adjust that.
02:18:31.000So it's a very simplistic thing to go back at the data and just kind of cut it and say women's salaries and men's salaries and not drill down and look at it so that you know you're making valid comparisons with those.
02:18:42.000But, Paul, you're talking about how this is within her foundation.
02:18:45.000There's a story on Drudge Report today in the New York Times saying that she faces a test of record as a woman's advocate.
02:18:53.000So here they are saying, this is people coming after her just because she's a woman, so we need to defend her because she's a woman.
02:18:59.000And yet her foundation is accepting millions of dollars, according to the New York Times, in donations from Middle Eastern countries that are known for violence against women and for denying them their basic freedoms.
02:19:11.000Not allowing them to drive cars or whatever.
02:19:14.000One of the nations that comes to mind, of course, is Saudi Arabia.
02:19:17.000One of the most oppressive regimes anywhere.
02:19:20.000And, of course, one of our closest allies.
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02:24:23.000I'm David Knight and I'm talking to Paul Joseph Watson.
02:24:29.000We've been talking about Hillary Clinton's missing emails.
02:24:33.000And there's a story up on the Drudge Report, actually by National Journal, Ron Fournier, Says emails may be a key to addressing the quote pay-to-play whispers at the Clinton Foundation.
02:24:56.000That's almost a self-obvious question, but let's go to this exchange on CNN.
02:25:01.000I want to get Paul's comments on this.
02:25:03.000This is State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki commenting on foreign donations, and there's some commentary from this author, the National Journal, as well as from Julie Pace of the AP.
02:25:15.000So here's the State Department spokesperson talking about Hillary Clinton accepting these foreign donations at the Clinton Foundation.
02:25:22.000We like to review and we have reviewed every donation that has been submitted.
02:25:28.000But in this case, the fact that the process was not followed in this particular incident does not raise concerns with us.
02:25:38.000We like to review and we have reviewed every donation.
02:25:49.000But it again gets back to, you know, what you said.
02:25:51.000This idea that even if there is nothing inherently bad about the donations, or nothing inherently bad in the emails, raises the question of why?
02:26:02.000Why do you even bother to do something that just gives off the impression that you're hiding something, or that you are doing something fraudulent?
02:26:09.000Especially if you have in the back of your mind the idea that you're going to run for president.
02:26:13.000And of course, it's the cover-up, isn't it?
02:26:15.000It wasn't so much the crimes of Nixon, but it was the cover-up that was really serious.
02:26:22.000The cover-up that they internalized by helping to propagate that.
02:26:27.000That Nixon made his own by covering up.
02:26:33.000Well, the cover-up is in place because this directly threatens Brand Clinton.
02:26:39.000Just like, you know, Obama was built on, you know, the first black president representing the entirety of America, if she's taken down by this kind of scandal that she's receiving donations from governments in the Middle East and corporate interests in the Middle East that are fundamentally, diametrically opposed to women's rights, which is where
02:27:00.000You know, I get emails from feminists, actual real feminists who care about women's rights issues, who work in the Middle East, and they're appalled by the kind of rhetoric that comes out of third-wave feminists in the United States in the West.
02:27:15.000So, you know, if that's exposed that Hillary has been taking donations from these kind of groups, it will completely eviscerate a large Part of the foundation of her campaign for 2016.
02:27:27.000Because she's tied her entire campaign to this issue of being a woman's advocate.
02:27:33.000That's what it's all going to be based around heading towards 2016 over the next 18 months.
02:27:38.000Which is why she threw her support behind this huge NBA campaign to basically lecture men about how they've got it so easy and how they need to do more housework in the home.
02:27:49.000So that's why it's Crystallizing into such a big issue right before we learn who's actually going to run for 2016.
02:27:57.000And that's why they're so defensive because it could derail her entire campaign before it even begins.
02:28:03.000That's why you've got the New York Times not typically opposed to Hillary saying she faces the test of her record.
02:28:11.000If she's going to claim that she's a woman's advocate.
02:28:13.000And of course, Paul, when we look at what's happening in countries like Saudi Arabia and others against women, it's also men's rights that they're attacking there in those countries as well.
02:28:23.000I mean, look at the blogger who's getting flogged repeatedly, a life-threatening punishment that they gave against him.
02:28:29.000But they do all that to men, which is bad enough, but then they do that as well to women, and then they have some special things that they do for women, don't they?
02:28:41.000Exactly, and that kind of genuine, real repression, which actual women's rights advocates write to me about on a regular basis, is what third-wave feminism completely ignores.
02:28:53.000It's like the Muslim rape scandal in England.
02:28:56.000For about 17 years there were groups of Muslim Pakistani men abducting white British girls off the streets and the local government and the police dismissed the issue, called all the victims liars because they didn't want to be called politically incorrect or racist.
02:29:14.000That was a huge controversy over the past few months in the United Kingdom.
02:29:19.000Not a word from all the third wave feminists, the most prominent feminists on the internet.
02:29:47.000We're gonna be right back with Paul Joseph Watson.
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02:33:33.000Now last hour we were anxiously awaiting the call of Barrett Brown from prison and of course if you haven't been following Barrett Brown's story you should be.
02:33:41.000That's one of the reasons we're having him on here because it affects press freedom throughout the United States and coming back into the studio with me now is Joe Biggs.
02:33:49.000We still have I think Paul Joseph Watson on the phone from the UK.
02:33:52.000So we've got a lot of people on the line here but let's go to Barrett Brown.
02:33:55.000Barrett I wanted to give you a chance to talk to the public We talked about your comments to the judge saying that this isn't about the rule of law anymore.
02:34:03.000We now have the rule of law enforcement.
02:34:06.000Tell us what you want to tell us about your trial now that the gag order has been taken off.
02:34:12.000Well, the first thing I should mention is that, aside from what I put forth in the article for the Daily Beast about a month ago, and aside from what I'll tell you about today, the great majority of the things that people didn't know about the trial are still sealed.
02:34:25.000And that should continue for about six months.
02:34:29.000So in addition to all the very egregious things that have happened, there's a great deal more that's still not public.
02:34:35.000Now, regarding the trial, I guess the basic lesson here is that the federal government can do whatever it wants, essentially, within the federal justice system.
02:34:44.000That's clear from the extent of the perjury, very demonstrable perjury that occurred in this case.
02:34:50.000Again, some of which is visible, some of which can be confirmed publicly through documents, some of which is still sealed.
02:34:55.000And that's really what I'm trying to convey to the judge in the elocution I gave, is that when you allow this perjury to occur, We're getting away from the rule of law.
02:35:06.000We're getting to a situation in which we're going through the forms.
02:35:09.000We're meeting in a nice, very pretty hardwood room with paintings and a big nice wood podium and very pretty robes and all that.
02:35:16.000But you're missing something, which is the rule of law.
02:35:19.000And if the rule of law isn't there, you're going to see things like Anonymous.
02:35:22.000You're going to see things like WikiLeaks.
02:35:27.000One of the things, reading the transcript, the judge dressed down the prosecutor for not referring to you as Mr. Brown.
02:35:34.000And as you were just talking about, you've got this fancy room with all the trappings and everything, but they're grinding the rule of law into the ground.
02:35:41.000And I thought, he's worried about being polite to people while he's railroading this whole process?
02:35:51.000It's very important to the people who have that federal government mentality.
02:35:56.000You know, I would have preferred him to object at the last hearing when the prosecutor asked the FBI agent, how long has Barry Brown been an anarchist?
02:36:06.000That would have been the time to object, when they started asking about my political ideology.
02:36:10.000Incidentally, this thing about me being an anarchist, which is true, that actually comes up in a couple of other documents, including the The gag order, when they asked for me to be gagged, me being an anarchist, was one of the reasons they cited.
02:36:23.000In one of the documents that's still sealed, regarding my sentencing, they called for me to get additional prison time because I'm an anarchist, and thus more likely, apparently, to commit crimes.
02:36:35.000There's a lot of egregious things that, on an individual basis, really should have been a national story, you know, on each given thing.
02:36:41.000Obviously, the seizure of the Declaration of Independence, in a more perfect world, would have been a major news story.
02:36:55.000Well, among the items, and you can see this, and this is links to from my Daily Beast article, My post-cyberpunk and digital conservative, which you can find online, we have the list of items they seized as evidence of a crime.
02:37:19.000Never have to explain why they took it.
02:37:21.000I'm assuming it has to do something to do with the FBI memorandum a few years ago when they said, you know, patriots, militia types, they like the Constitution, they might have a copy of the Constitution, thus having a copy of the Constitution might be evidence of a crime.
02:37:34.000I'm assuming they just sort of got it mixed up.
02:37:42.000So they just grabbed it and never came up with the trial.
02:37:44.000Even for them, it would have been a little much to actually discuss that in the course of the trial.
02:37:50.000Well, of course, yeah, they never want us to read even the first paragraph of that when it says we create governments to establish our rights, and when they destroy our rights, we have the duty and the obligation to alter or abolish those governments.
02:38:02.000One other thing I wanted to get to and then just you can talk, I'll let Joe ask you a question here.
02:38:07.000One of the things you mentioned at the end of the article was two days before your sentencing the Department of Justice withheld from the defense team chat transcripts from Jeremy Hammond.
02:38:21.000Yes, it actually came out two days before in an article by, I think, Dale Cameron that, in fact, this is something we had no idea of.
02:38:29.000The Department of Justice had documents that show quite demonstrably that I was not a co-conspirator in the Stratfor hack, which was a major point, you know, of the DOJ's favor in getting me, you know, actually getting me initial prison time, this claim that I was somehow a co-conspirator.
02:38:51.000It was made public quite before my sentencing.
02:38:54.000And this is something that, again, in a more perfect world, the judge would care about just as much as he cares about whether I'm called Mr. Brown or Barrett or whatever.
02:39:02.000But it just didn't quite come to his attention, didn't quite interest him very much.
02:39:11.000You know, it actually just goes to show that this particular case, you know, obviously it's been made for me to be in prison.
02:39:17.000But on the other hand, we have a great example here.
02:39:20.000This whole case, the investigation, all the way to the sentencing, of how this system works, particularly if the DOJ wants you, you know, very much wants you to do prison.
02:39:31.000It's a great example of how they're able to get away with these things, even in the public eye.
02:39:36.000And there's the other story here, of course, Absolutely.
02:39:46.000We spoke on the phone the other day, Barrett, and you were talking about, I was asking you what you knew about the Michael Hastings case and how the FBI came out and said that they weren't looking into him.
02:39:56.000You said that you believe that 99% that the FBI was definitely looking into him.
02:40:02.000I mean, even aside from the other reasons they would have to look into them, it's absolutely ludicrous for them to say that, because with regards to my group, Project PM, which runs the Echelon2.org website, which was really what this case was all about, they subpoenaed the IP address information for everyone who's ever contributed to that website of ours.
02:40:22.000So these are just sort of small players within Project PM.
02:40:24.000Now, Michael Hastings, on the other hand, as I noted in a Beta Differe article a number of years ago when he was still alive and when I was writing about him, you know, he was instrumental when I was first creating Project PM and helping me sort of flesh out the philosophy of it.
02:40:37.000So the idea that he, who was in contact with me regarding Project PM, was never investigated regarding Project PM is absolutely 100% ludicrous.
02:40:46.000And again, that's in addition to the other reasons they and certain other organizations would have to be investigating and harassing him.
02:40:55.000He's best known for sort of forcing McChrystal to resign a number of years ago, but really, his article exposing the PSYOPs campaign used by, I believe, a two-star general in Afghanistan against visiting senators, that's something I cite constantly in my articles for The Guardian or wherever as evidence of, here's what these people are willing to do, even to your elected officials.
02:41:14.000And again, it is absolutely ludicrous that their claim that they weren't investigated.
02:41:19.000They absolutely were, almost certainly on several different issues.
02:41:23.000I know we don't have much time, Barrett, before we get cut off, but Paul Joseph Watson is in the UK and he's got a quick question for you.
02:41:28.000Yeah, I just wanted to ask Barrett, obviously one of the charges is the fact that he merely provided a link to the Stratfor email leaks.
02:41:38.000What kind of precedent does that create for web publishers, for activists going forward?
02:41:45.000Well, it means that the federal government now has an expanded toolkit, a vastly expanded toolkit, by which to come after anyone that they wanted to come after to begin with, whether or not they've actually committed a crime.
02:41:55.000By criminalizing the act of linking, especially in my case where you don't even know what you're linking to, and had no interest or use for the and this turned out to be credit card numbers in addition to other information that I ended up linking to, which was already public.
02:42:10.000That's a terrible precedent by which journalists, researchers are now at risk.
02:42:16.000And, of course, there are some journalists and researchers who are a danger to the government and especially the DOJ, and thus the DOJ now has one more option by which to come after them.
02:42:27.000Quinn Norton, who writes for Wired, who testified at my hearing, she explained a few days afterwards after this decision that, that she was going to stop doing security reporting.
02:42:39.000The judge at my hearing said, you know, I'm going to go ahead and hit him with this additional year in prison for the linking.
02:42:45.000I don't think it's going to be a concern to journalists, which is bizarre because of course journalists have been expressing concern about those charges ever since they were made two years ago.
02:42:53.000And even right after my sentencing, there was a number of articles in US News & World Report, Columbia Journalism Review, The Intercept, again expressing concern about this.
02:43:03.000So the judge is not a brilliant flower of jurisprudence or anything really.
02:43:08.000He's just sort of a puppet of the DOJ.
02:43:10.000Not a bad guy, just doesn't know what he's doing.
02:43:12.000And so again, alas, that's the situation we're in now.
02:43:15.000Now hopefully something will come of this.
02:43:17.000In the case in general, hopefully people will make use of what's happened in my case to Bring some attention to the mainstream.
02:43:24.000Because, again, this affects journalists.
02:43:26.000And, you know, when you start coming after journalists, then you start, you have the option, the potential to get journalists' attention.
02:43:31.000Especially when you're quoting somebody like a Fox News contributor.
02:43:36.000Especially when you're quoting someone, a Fox News contributor, and then they use that against you, that quote.
02:43:42.000Yeah, and that's really, I think, the most bizarre, the number one most bizarre thing in a comedy of bizarre errors.
02:43:48.000The fact that a Fox News commentator went on television and talked about how he wanted we should murder Julian Assange.
02:43:53.000I quoted that on my Twitter account, you know, and of course Julian Assange is someone who I respect and he respects me.
02:44:00.000sort of an association, you know, that ended up my indictment, as if it was something that I said or, you know, approved of.
02:44:08.000And even after we pointed out, you know, in a filing that, you know, this Barrett Brown didn't say this, this is some other guy that Barrett Brown obviously wouldn't get along with saying it, the prosecution stuck with it.
02:44:19.000Instead of saying, oh, this is a mistake, you're right, they stuck with it and said, yes, he's promoting this quote.
02:44:23.000Which, again, really raises the question of if it's a terrible quote that even promoting gets you indicted, then how come the guy who said it on national television hasn't been indicted?
02:44:32.000And the answer, of course, is because the guy on Fox News is not a danger to the DOJ.
02:44:36.000He, like, commentators are both left and right.
02:44:40.000You know, he's an establishment character on his own.
02:44:43.000He dislikes Wikileaks, dislikes anti-government things of that nature, and thus will never get that kind of indictment.
02:44:51.000And that goes into another big problem here is the selectivity, the picking and choosing that DOJ can do and has done as we exposed, as we showed with the H.P.
02:45:03.000The picking and choosing they can do, who they prosecute under these very broad statutes.
02:45:08.000In addition to that, the bizarre sort of underground concierge service that DOJ seems to provide to certain companies that happen to have common enemies with them.
02:45:18.000That's something I don't think we have time to get into, but if people want to go to Echelon2.org, they'll see some of the research that really kicked off this trend, that really sort of forced the DOJ to come after me.
02:45:28.000The research that Anonymous and my A legal activity by the DOJ and certain companies.
02:45:34.000And that's really what this is all about.
02:45:42.000Just final comments about where you go from now.
02:45:46.000Do you have an appeal process that is coming through because of all these different things that are going to be coming to light in about six months?
02:45:52.000Unfortunately, we gave up our right to appeal when we pled.
02:45:55.000And then, us having done that, the DOJ knew that they could now start violating the law over and over again.
02:46:02.000So we'll see what happens in six months.
02:46:06.000What we're playing now is sort of an information game.
02:46:09.000They've had their shot at me, now I get my shot at them via the media.
02:46:12.000So that will develop over the next six months, and so people should stay tuned, I suppose.
02:46:17.000Well, so sorry that this happened to you, but please keep us informed, especially after they unseal these records that show the different ways that they played with the information in your trial.
02:46:28.000Yeah, and people can follow this at our Twitter page.
02:46:43.000He also has on Facebook.com Free Barrett Brown.
02:46:46.000And of course they disconnected it just automatically disconnects him on a certain amount of time.
02:46:52.000Again, if you want to follow this on Twitter, what he was about to give you was Free Barrett underscore and then the Facebook account Free Barrett Brown.
02:47:15.000He's what a journalist is supposed to be.
02:47:16.000And it just shows you The links that our government's going to go to try and silence people like that who are going to get out there, get in the trenches, dig for that information, expose corruption.
02:47:37.000At least another couple of years because he's given up his right to appeal.
02:47:40.000Paul, do you have a comment about that?
02:47:43.000Yeah, I mean, Barrett Brown is really a study in, you know, the threat of a good example.
02:47:50.000He provided a link to a Stratford email leak.
02:47:53.000He didn't even leak the documents himself, and yet they came down on him so hard.
02:47:57.000And then I saw an interview with Obama yesterday on one of the Sunday shows about the Hillary Clinton email scandal, and one of the hosts who was interviewing him brought up The claim that the Obama administration was the most transparent in history, and Obama with conviction on his face said, that's true.
02:48:17.000And yet the Obama administration has been the most forceful in prosecuting whistleblowers across the board.
02:48:26.000So the fact that this, you know, Barrett Brown merely provided a link to leaked documents and this is what's happened to him, obviously is based around creating this chilling effect whereby other journalists, other web publishers and activists are afraid to even link to information which is leaked, which exposes corruption within the administration and that's the major issue that surrounds this whole case.
02:48:51.000I think, Paul, when we're looking at the fact that we've been talking about the Clinton emails and how we're trying to get that information, they were done secretly, they were kept on a private server, they did everything they could to keep that out of the public view.
02:49:04.000We should remember that Barrett Brown And part of this, Project PM, when they got the Stratfor leak, he believed, according, and the judge understood from the court transcripts, Joe, that we saw, the judge understood that Barrett Brown thought that there was nothing but emails and what he was linking to.
02:49:22.000So it'd be essentially, if somebody were able to go in and find Hillary Clinton's illegal emails that she kept with a separate email address, a separate server, if they were to go in and investigate that, then going after those people, which is what we see, isn't it, Paul?
02:49:37.000We always see the government going after the people committing the crime, I mean, people exposing the crimes that are being committed, and never going after the people who commit the crimes.
02:49:45.000Project PM was trying to investigate the actions of these private corporations like HBGary and Stratfor in terms of targeting individuals within Anonymous, targeting people who were trying to investigate and help people with the Bhopal Dow Chemical spill.
02:50:02.000And so they were doing this as part of a crowdsourcing investigation.
02:50:05.000It would be essentially if they were to throw people in jail for trying to find Hillary Clinton's emails.
02:50:11.000Yeah, I mean it's like, you know, Cameron and Scotland Yard came out and said, anybody who watches ISIS propaganda videos could be charged under terrorism laws.
02:50:33.000Using that, again, we need to keep hammering that down.
02:50:35.000The fact that they charged him with a death threat against an FBI agent when he merely quoted a Fox News commentator making a death threat against Julian Assange.
02:52:02.000I got a couple, if you know what I mean.
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02:54:24.000I'm David Knight and we have here in the studio Joe Biggs and joining us from the UK is Paul Joseph Watson and we're going to, in this last segment, talk about that call we just got from Barrett Brown in prison in Dallas.
02:54:36.000He's going to be serving at least another three years, I guess, perhaps more, depending on how, if they credit it to time served.
02:54:43.000Before we go back to the discussion, though, I just want to let you know that we got a call from Alex.
02:54:47.000He set up an unprecedented sale on DNA Force today.
02:55:10.000Going back to Barrett Brown, Paul, we talked about how they brought up these charges against him for just linking to the information.
02:55:21.000Sets a terrible precedent, as he pointed out in his op-ed piece.
02:55:25.000Reporters Without Borders cited his conviction as a key factor in reducing America's Freedom of the Press rankings from 33 to 46.
02:55:34.000It has a lot of precedents that we saw set in this particular case, doesn't it?
02:55:40.000Well, exactly, and I mean he just talked about how the Wired writer stopped covering national security issues because of this case, because of the fear that merely investigating information which is publicly available could lead to criminal charges for journalists.
02:55:55.000So again, You know, it's all about making people afraid to investigate government and corporate corruption.
02:56:02.000It's about this desperation to clamp down on the free internet as a viral emerging source of deep research and penetration into these kind of scandals that emerge out of government and corporations.
02:56:14.000So that's why they are charging him to make an example out of him and make other people afraid of speaking out and of investigating this kind of information.
02:56:24.000It's a multi-pronged attack against the freedom of the press, against the internet.
02:56:43.000Like I said, this Obama administration is about as transparent as a brick wall.
02:56:48.000I mean, what they're doing is out of control, attacking journalists, going after them, threatening them, when merely that's our job as journalists to expose the corruption going on.
02:57:19.000Whether it's the New York Times reporters, or whether it's Barrett Brown, they want people to be afraid.
02:57:25.000They want you to know that they're watching you, and they want you to know that they can bring in any kind of total nonsense charge and lock you away for decades.
02:57:35.000I mean, it's just mind-blowing the fact that Fox News, MSNBC, CNN, these people will not cover the fact, the real issues of what's going on with this case.
02:57:42.000They'd much rather talk about the Kanye West and the things, that's the kind of stuff they shovel into people's faces.
02:57:48.000They want to ignore the fact that he was, you know, merely quoting someone, and that's usually against them.
02:57:53.000Or the fact that he has a copy of the Declaration of Independence, that should That should enrage every American to know that they're looking at you as a criminal, as a terrorist, for having something like that, for being patriotic, for being informed, for knowing your rights.
02:58:08.000That is something they want to go after.
02:58:10.000A total blackout from the mainstream media.
02:58:11.000What do you make of that, Paul, the fact that they would confiscate his Declaration of Independence?
02:58:17.000That would be part of the plea agreement.
02:58:20.000And then they would say, well, I think we can give him that plea agreement back.
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