It's Easter, and we have a special transmission for you today. It's a "best of" of all time, featuring some of our favorite new stories from the past few weeks, including an amazing interview with a former technical director of the National Security Agency, William Binney, and an interview with Dr. Andrew Wakefield, who was recently exonerated with the proof of his studies and what vaccines are doing to children.
00:00:00.000Welcome my friends, it is Easter on this fifth day of April 2015.
00:00:04.000We have a special transmission for you today, I guess in radio parlance, they would call it a best of.
00:00:13.000But some of it will be original, some of the new special reports that have been filed at InfoWars Nightly News, like the ones you're about to hear here in just a moment, and then the amazing interview a few weeks ago with a former technical director of the National Security Agency, William Binney.
00:00:28.000Then we have Barrett Brown, the political prisoner, is going to be joining us from prison.
00:00:33.000That interview with David Knight and Paul Joseph Watson, very important.
00:00:36.000And then that ties in to Bruce Fine, the former head lawyer for the FCC, who helped end the Fairness Doctrine.
00:00:45.000He weighs in on the persecution of journalists and the media and the FCC power grab, Daniel Estelin on the latest on Bilderberg.
00:00:52.000We're going to talk to Dr. Andrew Wakefield, recently exonerated with the proof of his studies and what vaccines are doing to children.
00:01:09.000Yesterday, we brought you the news about a mass shooting, a campus shooting in Kenya.
00:01:14.000The terrorist group Al-Shabaab opened fire at Garissa University College and killed nearly 150 people.
00:01:21.000Fox News reported the men were going door-to-door asking people their religion and if they answered they were a Christian, they shot them on the spot.
00:01:29.000The first responders engaged the terrorists, but were flat-out outgunned.
00:01:33.000Al-Shabaab is the same group that attacked a mall in Nairobi years ago, killing many innocent people.
00:01:38.000And now they're threatening attacks here on U.S.
00:01:41.000soil, threatening the Mall of America.
00:01:43.000DHS has investigated the group and found them to be no credible threat.
00:01:49.000But if they're wrong, I'm very happy that we live in a country where we have concealed carriers.
00:01:54.000He kept pulling the charging handle and hitting the side.
00:01:57.000The break in gunfire allowed Mealy to pull out his own gun.
00:02:01.000I saw someone in the back of the Charlotte move, and I knew that if I fired and missed I could end up hitting them.
00:02:07.000So Mealy took cover inside a nearby store.
00:02:09.000I'm not beating myself up because I didn't shoot him, but I know that after he saw me, I think the last shot he fired was the one that he used on himself.
00:02:45.000But if you're somebody of age, of sound mind and body, and you don't have any criminal proceedings, I think you should be able to go out and purchase a gun to keep yourself safe.
00:02:55.000But not everybody agrees with this point of view.
00:02:57.000And there are now actually articles out debunking the effectiveness of armed citizens.
00:03:03.000I have some self-defense stories here and for the purposes of this report, I restricted this to public people in public places and not private individuals in their homes.
00:03:11.000We'll start with this one back in 2012.
00:06:16.000Thank you for joining us on this Easter broadcast.
00:06:19.000I want to go to our annals here, or our archives for a moment.
00:06:24.000Not too far back, a few weeks ago, we had the former Technical Director of the National Security Agency, a huge whistleblower, on the broadcast and he dropped bombshell after bombshell while he was on.
00:06:35.000So here are some of those tidbits of information.
00:06:55.000We can recap your story, what's happening, get into the exciting stuff about you coming back from Germany.
00:07:00.000You've been talking to parliaments over there.
00:07:02.000You've been talking to the EU people, I believe the British Parliament, big national headlines where you say it's a totalitarian takeover and the Guardian.
00:07:11.000But here it's starting to come out in the news as well.
00:07:16.000We could talk about you working with Oliver Stone now on the new Snowden documentary.
00:07:22.000We could get into the slides and break down the fact that it is going on from an expert showing us not what's classified but what's already been leaked so you don't get in trouble.
00:07:33.000We're here with the former Technical Director of the NSA, the guy that actually ran it, William Binney.
00:07:39.000Yeah, there's so much here, it's really hard to know where to start because it's really been, over time, it's been, our government has moved into basically sliding down the totalitarian slope, taking massive amounts of data on our citizens and then working around and doing it across the world.
00:07:56.000So it's basically they're doing this for everybody on the planet.
00:07:59.000And the process started here in the NSA, and it started to spread around the world to the Five Eyes countries, the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and then to other countries like in Germany and Switzerland and Sweden and Israel.
00:08:18.000So the process of data collection, and now the Russians are doing it.
00:08:21.000I just read an article where they're starting this kind of operation.
00:08:24.000So now the Russians are following our lead in this spying business.
00:08:30.000This is, see, when I first started in October 2001, it was very clear to me that this was a process that we were adopting in the United States that was really a Soviet attempt Or a Stasi attempt in East Germany to assemble all the information on their populations.
00:09:19.000I mean, that's spread around the world to other police organizations around the world, too.
00:09:23.000Anybody with an organization or police organization that has a relationship With the FBI or the DEA around the world is subject to getting this kind of information but they'll never be given the original data from the NSA collection because it's not admissible in a court of law because it wasn't acquired by a warrant.
00:09:40.000And they don't want to, with foreigners, compromise the fact that they have the ability to collect it.
00:09:44.000And don't they then fence it and wash it and they've been caught adding disinformation and it's a perfect way to put into the global data stream frame-ups.
00:09:53.000They did that kind of framing with us.
00:11:19.000I had the former director of Star Wars on.
00:11:21.000He died a few years ago, Dr. Bob Bowman, and he talked about some of the space planes once, and then they called him and came to his house and kind of threatened him, and he said, Here's where it was released on C-SPAN, and here's where you guys in your own propaganda a decade ago released it, and then they couldn't go after him, but that's the type of stuff they pull.
00:11:49.000I call it perjury and felony, and these people should be charged and given a chance to explain what they did and why.
00:11:56.000Tell folks what happened to you before we get into the NSA itself.
00:11:59.000Well, for me, in my case, I mean, I was kind of prominent, you know, complaining to senators and representatives and various other people, as was Tom Drake.
00:12:09.000Let's be clear, you guys were doing this internally.
00:12:11.000We were internal, in terms of the government, yes.
00:12:14.000We were going to the inspector, we even, Kirk Mebe and I even went to talk to the Department of Justice Inspector General.
00:12:21.000And of course they couldn't say anything to us, but we made it clear what the problem was with this domestic spying.
00:12:28.000But for me and all four of us, we were the four who were first raided in July of 2007.
00:12:34.000We were raided because we were the ones who signed the DOD IG complaint against NSA, charging them with corruption, fraud, waste, and abuse.
00:12:43.000And that caused a DOD investigation of NSA that all verified what we were saying, and that was published but redacted.
00:12:51.000Because it was on even even the unclassified embarrassing parts were redacted.
00:12:56.000Which is a violation of the NSA regular the government records.
00:12:59.000Yeah, well, it's a violation of government classification regulations too.
00:13:04.000In other words, Executive Order 13526 section 1.7 says you can't classify something or keep it classified or not declassified if it's evidence of a crime or evidence of that embarrasses an agency or or you can't use the National Security Act to cover up criminal activity.
00:13:21.000And that's basically what the NSA and the DOJ and the DOD with that investigative report, that's what they were doing.
00:13:30.000They were redacting it and hiding it from Congress and hiding it from everybody else.
00:13:34.000So they're covering up what they're doing.
00:13:36.000And for us, they attempted after the raid, by the way, the DOD IG's office was the one that gave our names as the ones who submitted that complaint against NSA, they gave our names to the FBI.
00:13:56.000And all you're doing is going to congressional committees and inspector generals whose job it is to have oversight and telling them, hey, they're breaking the law.
00:14:04.000And also, it's the committees who are supposed to, the intelligence committees in the House and Senate, and also the FISA Court, were established after the Church Committee investigation of NSA, CIA, and FBI in the 70s.
00:14:18.000And one of the main persons they were spying on back in the Minaret program was Senator Church.
00:14:24.000And that only came out recently, and the only reason they didn't, of course, was because they are spying on people who have power over them.
00:14:33.000The fake conservative argument and the fake liberal argument is the same.
00:14:37.000We're protecting you from Al-Qaeda and drug dealers and all this other stuff, but then as more of this gets leaked and comes out, they're spying on Parliament, they're spying on Congress, they're spying on other agencies, and there's so much spying going on, and you've explained this, that back when you were really spying on the Russians, really spying on radical Islamists, Legally and lawfully, that was already legal and lawful.
00:14:58.000It's the domestic stuff that's illegal, but they confuse people and say, let us protect you from Al-Qaeda, when actually they're doing the opposite.
00:15:06.000They're letting all these groups operate because they're too busy spying on their boyfriends and their girlfriends and the congressmen.
00:15:12.000Yeah, and that's one of the cases that came out was what they called an NSA love-int.
00:15:19.000Love intelligence, that's where the analysts were looking into the data to see whether or not their better parts or their spouses or girlfriends were cheating on them.
00:15:30.000Well, you don't do that, first of all, you don't do that, Erica, you do not do that with metadata.
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00:21:59.000I mean, even Senator Rockefeller, when he was addressed in January on CNN, I think it was, he addressed it, he said, they've got data on, they've probably even got data on me.
00:22:12.000Well, I mean, what he's saying was right.
00:22:14.000I mean, they're collecting all the data content and metadata on everybody in the country.
00:22:26.000Well, Mark Klein kind of exposed that, too, and it's in court record in Mark Klein's case, where he laid out the wiring for all the, for the NSA room in the AT&T facility in San Francisco.
00:22:41.000What they did was they put a prism type of fair or a splitter, what's called a splitter or Y connector, where you have a fiber coming in and it sends, it duplicates and sends it down two paths.
00:22:51.000One path went to the NSA room and the other path went to the normal distribution of communications.
00:22:57.000In the NSA room, all the diagramming showed all the NERIS devices they had in there, where they pushed the fiber optic networks into the NERIS device.
00:23:05.000What that did was recompile everything on the line and sessionize it, meaning reassemble all the data.
00:23:13.000Like if you send an email, it goes out in packets.
00:23:14.000We'll pull all those packets back together and say, here's the email you just sent.
00:23:18.000And then they would pass that on to NSA for storage.
00:23:27.000And then now we know those hubs are everywhere, and in front of us they're building giant, huge complexes to store it all.
00:23:34.000Yes, the latest one that they've just submitted an environmental impact statement for is a 2.8 million square foot facility on Fort Meade, taking up basically the golf course at Fort Meade.
00:23:54.000What I love about the NSA, we've had reporters of San Antonio and in Utah, and you just get there at the Walmart parking lot and start videotaping, they run up, the police go, how dare you videotape us?
00:25:18.000I mean, they kept everybody in the dark so we had no informed electorate to make a decision about who to vote for about these issues or even embracing these issues.
00:25:28.000And they have an uninformed Congress, because that's why Representatives Amos and Conyers got a group together, a coalition of Republicans and Democrats, to try to unfund NSA, because they realized that they were being lied to by the agencies and by the intelligence committees and by the administration about what was going on.
00:25:46.000So, I mean, they had an uninformed Congress and an uninformed electorate by design.
00:25:51.000And that's basically what the Soviet Union, the Germans, that's basically what they did.
00:25:57.000I got a lot of questions coming up for you, William Binning, and I want you to be able to speak on other topics you want to get into and go through some slides you gave us that Snowden leaked so you can break this down for people to kind of give us a roadmap of what's going on.
00:26:08.000But my big question is, as best you know, not being there in 15 years, but what's leaked and what people said.
00:26:16.000How many people really have access to the big master files to go in and send a order in and then get all my emails from a year ago or go and see a file, a text file of a phone call I had last night?
00:26:33.000Because if Snowden could really get access to all of this, that means governments and spies could as well.
00:26:39.000So even if we had good people in government, which we know at the top we don't, they built this fraud.
00:26:45.000They've built something that could be taken over or hacked and thus compromise everything.
00:26:50.000You build something that spies on everything, you've just built something that corporations, spies, private corporate criminals, anybody can get into and exploit and sell.
00:27:00.000And with government's history of selling driver's license, selling uranium, whatever the case is, this looks like it's a giant bazaar of information that they've just opened up.
00:27:11.000Yes, and internally in NSA they have no monitoring of the network as to what's going on and who's using it.
00:27:17.000My estimate in terms of, I mean, some of the numbers I've seen say... Let's stop there, I don't mean to interrupt you.
00:27:21.000We monitor our network to see what people are doing around here.
00:27:24.000We monitor to see if they're downloading stuff that's illegal.
00:27:31.000In fact, we had proposed in the SARC, the SIGINT Automation Research Center, we proposed a program we called Well Grounded that said we wanted to monitor the entire worldwide network of NSA, who was on it, when they were on it, what they were doing, when they were there, as they did it.
00:27:45.000And it would be a matter of monitoring the network log, like you probably do here.
00:28:24.000But the real opposers of it were the managers.
00:28:28.000And the reason they didn't want that happening was we could watch the movement of all the money.
00:28:32.000We could see all the money being spent on every program, the return on investment of every program, whether or not they were successful or not, what companies were competing for, all of that kind of stuff.
00:28:42.000So they didn't want any oversight, so basically it's a giant looting operation.
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00:33:11.000You can complain about Big Brother and how this is a potential program run amok.
00:33:24.000But when you actually look at the details, then I think we've struck the right balance.
00:33:28.000And if people can't trust not only the executive branch, but also don't trust Congress, and don't trust federal judges, to make sure that we're abiding by the Constitution, due process, and rule of law, then we're going to have some problems here.
00:34:34.000But for people in the government, better choose a side, because this is classic totalitarianism.
00:34:40.000Every top constitutional lawyer, whether they're liberal or conservative, has come out and said, we're going over the edge, this is scary.
00:34:47.000Even Congress is saying that, but there's no oversight, so it's just all out of control now.
00:34:52.000Now, there are centralized groups that have a lot of power, but the scariest thing is, if this was a centralized system, we could probably fix it a lot better.
00:35:01.000Am I right from your expert opinion that it's worse, that there's not even oversight, because there's all these mini-empires, and God knows what going on, with just unlimited spying happening, and Congress doesn't know what to do?
00:35:22.000I mean, how do you ever get rid of something that's metastasized like this?
00:35:26.000Well, that's one of the things that we put into suggestions of the President in January of last year.
00:35:32.000We sent in 21 recommendations on how to fix NSA.
00:35:36.000One of them was to have our group of technical people be able to monitor everything.
00:35:40.000And we had another one to have focused collection of data.
00:35:44.000That kind of data is what's pulled into the NSA, not just bulk acquisition.
00:35:50.000That removes the possibility of them even querying that data.
00:35:53.000Because now they can't even access it because it doesn't exist.
00:35:56.000See, if you did a focused attack like we did with our program ThinThread back in the 90s, that would have eliminated this bulk acquisition.
00:36:42.000So it couldn't be stored in any NSA database.
00:36:45.000It couldn't be accessed by any NSA analyst or anybody in the CIA.
00:36:48.000So when you were there, the NSA was truly spying on foreign adversaries.
00:36:52.000Yes, but General Hayden when he was director and it was Bush, Cheney, Hayden and Tenet that decided to spy on everybody.
00:37:02.000That was to expand the authority of an NSA to go into, in secret by the way, to spy and collect data on every US citizen and everybody on the planet.
00:37:12.000And so when they did that, that's when I first saw that coming in.
00:37:15.000That was when I had to wash my hands of NSA.
00:37:45.000All the lawyers, all of the senior managers at NSA had all followed orders from the White House, from Cheney and Bush, to do this.
00:37:53.000And that's what Hayden directed them to say, that this is what was, this direction was coming from the White House, therefore we're going to do it, it's lawful and we do it.
00:38:00.000But to talk about what a hero and how much courage you've got, I mean, you know how serious people are in this government, what they do worldwide, how corrupt it's gotten at that point.
00:38:07.000You had the will to march into Congress and to tell them what was going on, the first guy I mean, that's ten times bigger than Snowden internally.
00:38:15.000And to really start this whole internal debate and this avalanche of understanding now, I mean, you were really one of the first people to ring the bell to warn folks that the country as we knew it was being dismantled.
00:38:27.000Yes, and in order to do that, I had to meet with one of the staffers of the House Intelligence Committee, Diane Rourke, that I knew.
00:38:32.000So I met with her at her house, because we couldn't trust the House Intelligence Committee, because they were a part of it.
00:38:39.000And we also couldn't trust anybody in NSA, so the only place that we'd find we could have a conversation or even talk about this was her house.
00:38:48.000There was no other place that was secure.
00:38:49.000In the supposed free country of America, and then you get SWAT team.
00:38:54.000Well yeah, after that and after talking to other members of Congress, and it was actually the morning of the second day after Attorney General Gonzales' testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee on the Terrorist Surveillance Program, where he only talked about the warrantless wiretap program.
00:39:16.000I mean, that was like an infinitesimal of what they were really taking in.
00:39:20.000At that time, it must have been a lower percentage of phone calls, but the vast majority of emails inside the United States as well as worldwide, which I estimated to be now at least 80% of the phone calls in the United States are now being recorded somewhere.
00:39:35.000That's how Tim Clemente could say that after the Boston bombing, we can get back to what was said in a phone call between one of the Tsarnaev brothers and his wife before the bombing.
00:39:43.000Let's be clear, they're saying it on television that they're recording all the calls, but then denying it out of the next breath.
00:39:50.000Also, Dr. Mueller of the FBI, in his Senate Judiciary testimony on the 30th of March of 2011, said that he got together with the Department of Defense and set up a database where he and the FBI could make one query and get all past and all future emails on a person.
00:40:07.000Now that tells you that that's coming out of Bluffdale, by the way.
00:40:11.000All the data is being collected and stored.
00:40:14.000And so it's not just phone calls, it's emails, it's everything else.
00:40:18.000And of course some of the recent publications show credit card use is being stored also.
00:40:23.000How many people in the NSA, how many people have a high enough clearance in government agencies, period, to be able to go in and hear my phone calls, say, to my dad yesterday?
00:40:34.000I believe the figures I've seen, at least of what's been published, is probably on the order of about 3,000 government employees.
00:40:42.000Now, that doesn't count contractors who are managing the data.
00:40:46.000You have all these contractors who manage the communications, the computers, the data stories, the query programs, and the communications back and forth between the analysts to ensure all... Who could do a Snowden-level breach if they want?
00:41:41.000What's behind... At the end of the day, what do you think the different power elites are thinking?
00:41:48.000I basically see us moving to a controlled society.
00:41:53.000A totalitarian state where it is, the government wants to be in charge.
00:41:58.000I mean, when Reagan said we're a country with a government, I think we're now a government with a country.
00:42:03.000And all of the things that are happening are only tightening that control on the people.
00:42:09.000They're going to manipulate them and keep, as long as they can keep them uninformed, And nobody realizes what's going on, or they don't see the threat.
00:42:17.000If they say, if you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide.
00:42:21.000First of all, that's a great quote from Joseph Goebbels.
00:42:51.000I've been basically said what they did after 9-11 was trade the security of the people of the United States and of the world for money.
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00:46:58.000You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.
00:47:05.000And we are back on this Easter transmission.
00:47:18.000I want to go to our archives and play part of an interview that David Knight and Paul Joseph Watson of Infowars.com did recently with a true American political prisoner, Barrett Brown.
00:47:41.000Barrett, I wanted to give you a chance to talk to the public.
00:47:45.000We talked about your comments to the judge saying that this isn't about the rule of law anymore.
00:47:49.000We now have the rule of law enforcement.
00:47:52.000Tell us what you want to tell us about your trial now that the gag order has been taken off.
00:47:58.000Well, the first thing I should mention is that, aside from what I put forth in the article for the Daily Beast about a month ago, and aside from what I'll tell you about today, the great majority of the things that people didn't know about the trial are still sealed.
00:48:10.000And that should continue for about six months.
00:48:14.000So in addition to all the very egregious things that have happened, there's a great deal more that's still not public.
00:48:20.000Now, regarding the trial, I guess the basic lesson here is that the federal government can do whatever it wants, essentially, within the federal justice system.
00:48:29.000That's clear from the extent of the perjury, a very demonstrable perjury that occurred in this case, again, some of which is visible, some of which can be confirmed publicly through documents, some of which is still sealed.
00:48:40.000And that's really what I've tried to convey to the judge in the allocution I gave, is that when you allow this perjury to occur, we're getting away from the rule of law.
00:48:50.000We're getting to a situation in which we're going to the forums.
00:48:53.000We're meeting in a nice, very pretty hardwood room with paintings and a big nice wood podium and very pretty robes and all that.
00:49:00.000But you're missing something, which is the rule of law.
00:49:02.000And if the rule of law isn't there, you're going to see things like Anonymous.
00:49:05.000You're going to see things like WikiLeaks.
00:49:10.000One of the things, reading the transcript, the judge dressed down the prosecutor for not referring to you as Mr. Brown.
00:49:17.000And as you're just talking about, you've got this fancy room with all the trappings and everything, but they're grinding the rule of law into the ground.
00:49:24.000And I thought, he's worried about being polite to people while he's doing this, while he's railroading this whole process?
00:49:34.000It's very important to the people who have that federal government mentality.
00:49:39.000You know, I would have preferred him to object at the last hearing when the prosecutor asked the FBI agent, how long has Barry Brown been an anarchist?
00:49:48.000That would have been the time to object when they started asking about my political ideology.
00:49:52.000Incidentally, this thing about me being an anarchist, which is true, that actually comes up in a couple of other documents, including the The gag order, when they asked for me to be gagged for being an anarchist, was one of the reasons they cited.
00:50:05.000In one of the documents that's still sealed regarding my sentencing, they called for me to get additional prison time because I'm an anarchist, and thus more likely, apparently, to commit crimes.
00:50:16.000There's a lot of egregious things that, on an individual basis, really should have been a national story, you know, on each given thing.
00:50:22.000Obviously, the seizure of the Declaration of Independence, in a more perfect world, would have been a major news story.
00:50:35.000Well, among the items, and you can see this, and this is linked to from my Daily Beast article, My post-cyberpunk conservative can find online.
00:50:44.000We have the list of items they seized as evidence of a crime.
00:51:01.000I'm assuming it has to do something to do with the FBI memorandum a few years ago when they said, you know, patriots, militia types, they like the Constitution, they might have a copy of the Constitution.
00:51:10.000Thus, having a copy of the Constitution might be evidence of a crime.
00:51:13.000I'm assuming they just sort of got it mixed up.
00:51:15.000One of those enlightenment documents, you know, FBI agents aren't as educated as we might expect them to be or might help them to be anyway.
00:51:21.000So they just grabbed it and then, you know, never came up at the trial.
00:51:24.000And even for them, it would have been a little much to actually discuss that, you know, in the course of the trial.
00:51:29.000One of the things you mentioned at the end of the article was two days before your sentencing, the Department of Justice withheld from the defense team chat transcripts from Jeremy Hammond.
00:51:44.000Yes, it actually came out two days before in an article by, I think, Dale Cameron, that in fact, and this is something we had no idea of, the Department of Justice had documents that show quite demonstrably that I was not a co-conspirator in the Stratfor hack, which was a major point, you know, of the DOJ's in getting me, actually getting me initial prison time, this claim that I was somehow a co-conspirator.
00:52:12.000It was made public quite before my sentencing.
00:52:15.000And this is something that, again, in a more perfect world, the judge would care about just as much as he cares about whether I'm called Mr. Brown or Barrett or Dr. D.
00:52:24.000But it just didn't quite come to his attention.
00:52:28.000attention, didn't quite interest it very much.
00:52:30.000It actually just goes to show that this particular case, obviously, it's inconvenient for me to be in prison.
00:52:36.000But on the other hand, we have a great example here, this whole case, the investigation, all the way to the sentencing of how this system works, particularly if the DOJ very much wants you to do prison.
00:52:48.000It's a great example of how they're able to get away with these things, even in the public eye.
00:52:53.000And there's the other story here, of course, is how poorly the mainstream media does in keeping up with these things.
00:53:01.000We spoke on the phone the other day, Barrett, and you were talking about, I was asking you what you knew about the Michael Hastings case and how the FBI came out and said that they weren't looking into him.
00:53:11.000You said that you believe that 99% that the FBI was definitely looking into him.
00:53:17.000Aside from the other reasons they would have to look into them, it's absolutely ludicrous for them to say that because with regards to my group, Project BM, which runs the Echelon2.org website, which was really what this case was all about, they subpoenaed the IP address information for everyone who's ever contributed to that website of ours.
00:53:35.000So these are just sort of small players within Project PM.
00:53:37.000Now, Michael Hastings, on the other hand, as I noted in a Benedict Fair article a number of years ago when he was still alive and when I was writing about him, you know, he was instrumental when I was first creating Project PM and helping me sort of flesh out the philosophy of it.
00:53:50.000So the idea that he, who was in contact with me regarding Project PM, was never investigated regarding Project PM is absolutely 100% ludicrous.
00:53:59.000And again, that's in addition to the other reasons they and certain other organizations would have to be investigating and harassing him.
00:54:06.000He's best known for sort of forcing McChrystal to resign a number of years ago, but really, his article exposing the PsyOps campaign used by, I believe, a two-star general in Afghanistan against visiting senators, that's something I cite constantly in my articles for The Guardian or wherever as evidence of, here's what these people are willing to do, even to your elected officials.
00:54:25.000Obviously one of the charges is the fact that he merely provided a link to the Stratfor email leaks.
00:54:32.000What kind of precedent does that create for web publishers, for activists going forward?
00:54:38.000Well it means that the federal government now has an expanded toolkit, a vastly expanded toolkit by which to come after anyone that they wanted to come after to begin with, whether or not they've actually committed a crime.
00:54:48.000By criminalizing the act of linking, especially in my case where you don't even know what you're linking to, and had no interest or use for the and this turned out the credit card numbers in addition to other information that I ended up linking to, which was already public.
00:55:02.000That's a terrible precedent by which journalists, researchers are now at risk.
00:55:07.000And, of course, there are some journalists and researchers who are a danger to the government and especially the DOJ.
00:55:14.000And thus, you know, the DOJ now has one more option by which to come after them.
00:55:18.000Quinn Norton, who writes for Wired, who testified at my hearing, she explained a few days afterwards after this decision That she was going to stop doing security reporting.
00:55:30.000The judge at my hearing said, you know, I'm going to go ahead and hit him with this additional year in prison for the linking.
00:55:36.000I don't think it's going to be a concern to journalists, which is bizarre because journalists have been expressing concern about this, those charges, ever since they were made two years ago.
00:55:44.000And even right after my sentencing, there was a number of articles in U.S.
00:55:48.000News & World Report, Columbia, Journalism Review, The Intercept, again, expressing concern about this.
00:55:53.000So the judge is not a A brilliant flower of jurisprudence, or anything really.
00:55:58.000He's just sort of a puppet of the DOJ.
00:56:00.000Not a bad guy, just doesn't know what he's doing.
00:56:02.000And so again, alas, that's the situation we're in now.
00:56:05.000Now hopefully something will come of this in the case in general.
00:56:08.000Hopefully people will make use of what's happened in my case to bring some attention to the mainstream.
00:56:14.000Because again, this affects journalists.
00:56:15.000And when you start coming after journalists, then you start, you have the option, the potential to Especially when you're quoting someone, a Fox News contributor, and then they use that against you, that quote.
00:56:27.000Yeah, and that's really, I think, the most bizarre, the number one most bizarre thing in a comedy of bizarre errors.
00:56:32.000The fact that a Fox News commentator went on television and talked about how he wanted, we should murder Julian Assange.
00:56:45.000That ended up my indictment, as if it was something that I said or, you know, approved of.
00:56:50.000And even after we pointed out, you know, in a filing that, you know, this Barrett Brown didn't say that this is some other guy that Barrett Brown obviously wouldn't get along with saying it, the prosecution stuck with it.
00:57:01.000Instead of saying, oh, this is a mistake or you're right, they stuck with it and said, yes, he's promoting this quote, Which again, really raises the question of if this is a terrible quote, that even promoting gets you indicted, then how come the guy who's studied on national television hasn't been indicted?
00:57:13.000And the answer, of course, is because the guy on Fox News is not a danger to the DOJ.
00:57:17.000He, like commentators, are both leftist.
00:57:20.000We'll be right back after this quick break in the second hour.
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01:00:33.000There is an extra special and rare total lunar eclipse taking place this Saturday morning.
01:00:39.000It has some people worried for this Easter weekend.
01:00:42.000The blood moon is a rare celestial event, yet for the third time in less than a year, the moon will dip behind the Earth's shadow, appearing a deep coppery red for a few minutes.
01:00:52.000And this will transform the skies over North America, Asia and Australia into a deep red color.
01:00:59.000Now there are several interesting things about this particular blood moon.
01:01:03.000While some eclipses can last an hour or more, this will be the shortest lunar eclipse of this century.
01:01:10.000It's also taking place the morning of Easter Vigil, which is traditionally observed as the period between Good Friday and Easter Sunday.
01:01:18.000The eclipse also falls within the first night of Passover, which is observed by Jews worldwide beginning Friday at sunset.
01:01:27.000Now, according to NASA, the rare tetrad of four alignments in close proximity has only happened a handful of times in the last 2,000 years.
01:01:37.000The final blood moon eclipse of the tetrad series will take place September 28, 2015, which also happens to be a Jewish holiday.
01:01:47.000Many people believe that these lunar eclipses and their appearance on auspicious dates signals a world-changing event that's about to take place.
01:01:55.000The sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the great and terrible day of the Lord comes.
01:02:05.000Joel 2.31 Now there's something else about this Tetrad series that's pretty bizarre.
01:02:12.000It happens to fall in a Shemitah year.
01:02:14.000This is something that hasn't happened for 2,000 years.
01:02:19.000Rabbi Jonathan Kahn points out in his book, The Mystery of the Shemitah, that these years in the past have brought down economies, kingdoms, and nations that haven't followed God's will.
01:02:30.000A very major thing happened that escaped most people.
01:02:33.000The Shemitah began in the autumn of 2014, and what happened is within two weeks, well, actually within one week of it beginning, and remember the Shemitah can mean the fall, within one week, America was overtaken.
01:02:45.000Russia became the greatest nuclear power on Earth.
01:02:48.000It actually surpassed the first week of the Shemitah.
01:02:50.000The second week of the Shemitah became something even more major, and that is that the American age that began in the year 1871, when we became the strongest economic power on Earth, came to an end immediately.
01:03:02.000America was dethroned as the Shemitah began.
01:03:06.000It is now China has taken the crown of America.
01:03:09.000Now I've warned for it since the Harbinger came out, I've warned that if we don't turn back to God, there is going to be the crown that America has worn as the head of nation is going to be removed.
01:03:18.000We are seeing the beginning of that right now.
01:03:21.000And so we are watching, actually, when the same week that the Shemitah began, Wall Street went crazy for about a month.
01:03:28.000Now, the pattern of the last Shemitahs have been that often at the beginning of the Shemitah, you don't notice anything, but there are often foreshadows.
01:03:36.000Well, the major thing, if something's going to happen, the major period is going to be coming up, is always at the end of the Shemitah, as we approach September.
01:04:19.000If we don't turn back, if this nation keeps on going on its course, we're going to watch the fall of America or the shaking of America and the American age that you and I and all our listeners have known since we were born is going to come to an end.
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01:06:30.000Daniel Estelin is one of the only living people who has connections into the Bilderberg Group.
01:06:38.000I get some intel from people on the periphery, but I do not have a source directly inside Bilderberg.
01:06:45.000Daniel Estelin has written several international bestsellers on the Bilderberg Group.
01:06:50.000He's also written a thinly-veiled fiction, that of course really isn't fiction at a lot of levels.
01:06:57.000Just like Ian Fleming's James Bond, Novels were true stories put into a composite and he now has released a documentary.
01:07:06.000We're going to be telling you about today So he's got the big scoop on where it may be held this year Is it accurate as some are saying that it's going to be in Austria and a lot more Daniel.
01:07:18.000Thank you for joining us Alex, it's always a great, enormous pleasure for me to be on your show.
01:07:43.000But there's a lot of people out there who are doing what they can to make sure that this story doesn't die.
01:07:49.000And again, this global awareness, which we were talking about before, on the world stage, people are becoming aware more and more what's going on as a result of technological revolution, Internet and everything else out there.
01:08:01.000It's getting more and more difficult for the global elite to hide their deeds.
01:08:06.000Looking at what's happening, why do you think they're coming show out in the open?
01:08:09.000And then you've got the floor, because I got to ask questions, but I want to know what's on your mind, the latest intel you've gotten.
01:08:15.000Well, the Bilderberg meeting is being held actually in 2015 in Austria on my Twitter account, at Estrel and Daniel.
01:08:22.000I published a couple of months ago an information, a report that I got from my intel sources in the Ministry of the Interior of Austria, who sent me the report.
01:08:32.000Saying which date that everybody in Austria has to be on the lookout.
01:08:37.000I believe it's from the 9th of... I can't remember exactly the date right now, but it's the beginning of June and it is being held in Austria and we have the documents to demonstrate it.
01:08:46.000As far as what's going on in the world, the globalist elite, the reason actually all this information is coming out right now, Alex, is that the global elite are faced with the reality of seeking to dominate populations that are increasingly becoming self-aware and are developing a global consciousness.
01:09:02.000Thus, a population being subjected to domination in Africa, for example, has the ability to become aware of a population being subjected to the same forms of domination in the Middle East, in South America, or in Asia, or even in Europe, in Greece, for example.
01:09:17.000And they can recognize that they're all being dominated by the same global power structures.
01:09:25.000Not only is the awakening global in its reach, but also in its nature.
01:09:30.000It creates within the individual an awareness of the global condition.
01:09:34.000So it is a global awakening, both in the external environment and also in the internal psychology.
01:09:40.000And this is something that the elitists, such as the Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commission, Council for Relations, Penite Circle, Bohemian Grove, and all this, you know, ONGs, Rockefeller Foundations, Carnegie's, you know, Hudson's and Hoover's.
01:09:57.000They simply, you know, can't deal with it right now because it's a new game.
01:10:01.000And this new reality in the world comes with the fact, Alex, that the world's population has never been so vast.
01:10:08.000...presents a challenge to elites seeking to dominate people all over the world who are aware and awakened to the realities of social inequality, war, poverty, exploitation, disrespect, imperialism, and domination.
01:10:23.000And of course, this directly implies that these populations will be significantly more challenging to control, both economically, politically, socially, psychologically, and also spiritually.
01:10:36.000By the way, we're rolling some background footage of your new film, and I tell you, it looks like better than something you'd see on HBO.
01:10:45.000The camera work, the research, I cannot wait to see this.
01:10:48.000Tell us about your new documentary, Daniel, and how soon we can get a copy of it.
01:10:53.000I'd love to sell it on DVD or Blu-ray once it comes out at my store, but I hope it goes in theaters first.
01:11:01.000Tell people the name, tell us all about this incredible documentary on the Bilderberg Group that you produced.
01:11:15.000We've done interviews in 11 countries, Canada, the United States, most of Europe.
01:11:20.000We've traveled up and down all over the place.
01:11:22.000The first producer of the documentary was actually wiped out economically, if you believe in conspiracy or coincidence theories, won three banks, called in loans on the same day, and basically bankrupted him.
01:11:38.000I separately know about this, not from you, but I know who the group was.
01:11:42.000Are we allowed to say who they were or we shouldn't talk about it?
01:12:21.000I sent a letter, an email, to Martin Wolf, the Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist with the Financial Times.
01:12:28.000And I asked him for an interview and I got a reply and of course we're going to put it in the documentary.
01:12:32.000He sent an email, how dare you make a documentary about the Bilderberg Group.
01:12:36.000So the documentary is coming out at the beginning of June, end of May.
01:12:40.000We're in a post-production and you know we're very very close to the finish line.
01:12:45.000We're going to be over that finish line and the film is going to be out worldwide release.
01:12:49.000There's a lot of international large film festivals who are very interested.
01:12:54.000And also Bilderberg Has become a household name.
01:12:57.000The book came out 10 years ago, and now everybody knows about it, and I think this is the time.
01:13:01.000It's the right time, socially speaking, with all the changes taking place in the world, that people think finally are ready to embrace this concept that you've been talking about for about over a decade.
01:13:13.000And, you know, I've been talking about it for over a decade.
01:13:15.000Well, you've got Nigel Farage in here.
01:13:17.000You've got just an amazing list of top people in your film.
01:13:29.000It's actually the first documentary which is based on a book.
01:13:33.000Most documentaries, you know, are not based on books.
01:13:35.000But this one is based on my book, The True Story of the Bilderberg Group.
01:13:38.000is going to be out in theaters end of May, beginning of June.
01:13:42.000And when it's out, need us to say, I'd be more than happy and pleased to go back on your show and talk about it.
01:13:49.000In closing, I know you've got sources.
01:13:51.000I know a lot of it now is pretty much, as you said last time you were on, is put out at Davos, but what's on the agenda for 2015 in Switzerland, er, in Austria?
01:14:00.000One of the key issues, Alex, is fiscal austerity.
01:14:03.000You know, this boogeyman term is back.
01:14:05.000It's kind of a vague term that is, you know, actually refers to cutting social spending and increasing taxes.
01:14:11.000And the effect this has is that the public sector is devastated as all assets are privatized.
01:14:16.000Public workers, you know, are fired en masse.
01:14:20.000Health and education disappear, taxes rise dramatically, and currencies are devalued to make all assets cheaper for international corporations and banks to buy up, while internally causing inflation, dramatically increasing the cost of fuel and food.
01:14:34.000In short, fiscal austerity implies social destruction, as we're seeing right now in Greece.
01:14:40.000as we saw in Spain, as we saw in Portugal, and as we see, you know, in Italy.
01:14:45.000And, you know, the social destruction of the social foundations of nations and peoples are pulled out from under them, states that become despotic and oppressed, the people who actually revolt against austerity.
01:14:57.000And this is called the sterilization of society.
01:15:00.000And this is the term, again, this is the term, Alex, you're going to be seeing a lot more, you know, with the build-up to Bilderberg and then post Bilderberg.
01:15:09.000We talked about this before, you know, terms like deindustrialization, zero growth, demand destruction, you know, they were discussed at these private secret meetings, and then suddenly there were friends at the center of major newspapers, Next big front and center newspaper piece is sterilization of society.
01:15:27.000Just the word sterilization itself with all the connotations.
01:15:30.000When you start sterilizing society, it takes on a meaning of its own.
01:15:34.000It takes, you know, to an nth degree, you know, of evil that, needless to say, we have to make sure we fight this.
01:15:43.000On the other side of this break, we're going to be talking to Dr. Andrew Wakefield, who's recently been exonerated for his research on the connection between vaccines and autism.
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01:22:37.000Because if we lose this battle, we lose it for a very, very long time.
01:22:43.000Elaborate on how, where's the lawsuit going, how your colleague, the co-author, super prestigious.
01:22:49.000I mean, I looked him up, like you said, one of the top, you know, gastro experts in the UK or Europe.
01:22:56.000That's why they were so scared of you guys and had to shut you down because you're smart, well-spoken, prestigious, getting results, helping people, had to be destroyed, but they failed.
01:23:04.000You came back like the Phoenix and that's so exciting.
01:23:07.000So, so break down where that fight's going right now as well.
01:23:12.000When the GMC rendered their opinion and had their decision and had us struck off the medical register in the UK, both Professor Walker-Smith and I filed an appeal.
01:23:23.000And I did not get funded for my appeal.
01:23:25.000It would have cost me about £500,000, which I didn't have, to fight that appeal, so I had to withdraw my appeal.
01:23:31.000Because they destroyed your livelihood.
01:24:00.000They had been given their marching orders and they were going to get a guilty verdict, whatever.
01:24:04.000And at the end of it, counsel on behalf of the GMC admitted Said, we're sorry, we know mistakes were made and we didn't handle this properly and the judge said it would be a shame if this were ever to happen again.
01:24:18.000You go away and you change your whole process of conducting these fitness to practice inquiries.
01:24:25.000However, they got what they wanted and that was taking my license away.
01:24:30.000And now autism rates have gone, I mean they vary, the highest are in South Korea, correct me if I'm wrong, like 1 in 30-something, it's 1 in 50-something here now, it was 1 in 68, it was 1 in 25,000 30 years ago.
01:24:43.000I mean, I can see the children when I'm at the grocery store or I'm out in public.
01:24:57.000God bless their little hearts, you know, babbling and just going through hell.
01:25:03.000And I go to doctor's offices sometimes to take my children to the pediatrician and I'll be in there and there's like 15 kids and five of them are autistic.
01:26:55.000There's the epidemic that's occurring now, and then there are the children who are already damaged.
01:26:58.000What do we do about those children as they age out and they become adults?
01:27:03.000As you say, sitting in diapers at the age of 15, 20, 25.
01:27:07.000Unable to cope, unable to deal with themselves.
01:27:09.000We had a tragic case here in Austin the other day of a young man who was in a group home in the district, in the community, and a simple thing happened.
01:27:18.000I think someone stood on a DVD of his.
01:27:48.000So, what are we going to do with all of these autistic adults?
01:27:52.000And that's a tragedy, and someone here in Austin, Polly Tommy, is creating the Autism Trust to provide a long-term home for these individuals where they won't be drugged.
01:28:01.000It won't be simply put on psychotropic medications which have no indication in autism whatsoever, but make life easier for the carers.
01:28:18.000So, it's an exciting time for people here in Austin, but one of these places is not going to be anywhere near enough.
01:28:24.000You could have 10 or 15 in Austin alone, let alone the rest of Texas or the country.
01:28:30.000Well, I know a lot of personal friends, some quite famous people as well.
01:28:35.000I mean, you'll be on the phone with them and, you know, there are kids in the background going just over and over again screaming at them, I mean, for hour after hour after hour.
01:28:43.000I mean, it is... I couldn't think of a way to debilitate a society better.
01:28:48.000We'll be back with a conclusion of this important interview with Dr. Andrew Wakefield.
01:28:52.000Then we'll talk to the former top lawyer at the FCC about the FCC power grab of the entire internet and media system.
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01:33:48.000What we're looking at is a system that is in meltdown right now.
01:33:51.000And they're in meltdown for a number of reasons.
01:33:53.000You can only sustain a lie, a falsehood, for so long.
01:33:56.000And now that Dr. William Thompson, senior CDC scientist, has come forward and said that they have known for 13 years that MMR vaccine is causally associated with autism and they have hidden it from the public, from doctors, from public health officials, from everybody.
01:34:14.000They've kept it to an inner circle of people who knew the truth all along.
01:34:18.000And have allowed millions of children to be put in harm's way in the interim.
01:34:22.000And he could no longer live with that, and he's come forward with that now.
01:34:26.000And one has to hope that that goes before a congressional committee sooner rather than later.
01:34:31.000And if I have one message for your listeners and your viewers, it is that you must implore that your congressmen take this very, very seriously and support Congressman Bill Posey's efforts to get this before a committee just as soon as possible.
01:34:48.000Looking at this now, they're doubling down.
01:34:51.000It's like we're Jews in Nazi Germany that we don't want to get vaccinated.
01:34:54.000Arrest us, publish our names, where we live, come after us, take our children.
01:35:03.000And it's rather like Salem or more recently, as you point out, it's rather like banning the Nazis, banning Jews from using public transportation in order to avoid being contaminated by suspected infection.
01:35:33.000And if you have a vaccination policy in this country which mandates, which takes your children away, which puts you at gunpoint, which puts parents in prison for not vaccinating, that is not built upon public trust or confidence.
01:35:56.000In America and Europe, they're trying to make vaccines forced and they're coming out with hundreds of new ones where companies lobby and then government says it's the law to take it.
01:36:05.000They tried to have Rick Perry a few years ago run the hoax of saying it was the law with the Gardasil.
01:36:48.000There are measles outbreaks apparently now in California and elsewhere.
01:36:52.000MMR vaccine, Measles, Mumps, Rubella vaccine does not protect against measles.
01:36:56.000Measles vaccine protects against measles.
01:36:59.000And the only recommendation that I have ever made in respect of MMR is to give them separately and delay them so that you have an interval between each vaccine.
01:37:08.000That's what the Japanese have done for 20 years.
01:37:10.000Well, the Japanese are an extremely good example because the Japanese had MMR.
01:37:15.000They don't want a bunch of brain damaged children.
01:37:17.000When MMR came in in Japan, there was a dramatic rise in the incidence of autism.
01:37:22.000What they found is that the vaccine caused meningitis.
01:37:26.000The mump strain of the vaccine caused meningitis.
01:37:29.000Public confidence was lost and the vaccine was stopped.
01:37:32.000And the uptake of the vaccine and the decline in the use of the vaccine exactly mirrors the rising and falling incidence of autism.
01:37:41.000Now, what happened next was that there was a rebound, a dramatic rebound in the incidence of autism.
01:37:50.000But what the vaccine policy recommendation was in Japan was to use to give children at 12 months the measles and rubella vaccine on the same day.
01:38:01.000And to give voluntary months vaccination not less than four weeks later.
01:38:05.000Now that in many ways is still giving combination viral vaccines.
01:38:11.000So you're recapitulating the same problem that you have with MMR.
01:38:15.000Now, the kicker is, Alex, that the single mumps vaccine, the one that caused meningitis, when it was given on its own, caused little or no meningitis at all.
01:38:25.000It was when it was put into the MMR...
01:38:28.000But there was an unacceptable level of meningitis.
01:38:31.000It tells us that you get a novel, unexpected, adverse event associated with the combination vaccine that you did not get with a single therapy.
01:38:41.000Dr. Blaylock, who's coined a lot of terms that are now in mainline medical journals, says that there's basically an adjuvant effect of mixing them together.
01:38:49.000It just makes them many times more powerful.
01:39:55.000Well, we told folks that there were some tips on to win the lottery in here, or maybe fantasy football, they might read it, but I mean, if I was going to put any drug I want to put in my body, I don't care what it is, antibiotics, anything, I go read the insert.
01:40:22.000In the presence of the current concerns about the safety of MMR vaccine, they must have a choice of how to protect their children against infectious disease.
01:40:30.000Well, I know you're here warning people, as a doctor, and trying to save folks, but tell us about Your story, recapping it briefly, where it is, where your lawsuit is, your co-author being exonerated, I know you're moving towards that.
01:40:43.000You've been exonerated with the whistleblowers, the previous studies, but this has got to really hurt the people that tried to destroy you, as just fate would have it, all this evidence pours out.
01:40:53.000Well, Alex, I've been in this 20 years now, and that feels like many, many lifetimes.
01:40:57.000But we listened to parents who said that my child was perfectly normal, I'm not anti-vaccine, I took my child to get vaccinated.
01:41:04.000When I did that, they got the MMR and they regressed into autism.
01:41:08.000And they also developed gastrointestinal symptoms.
01:41:10.000And as a physician interested in Gastrointestinal disease, I recommended those children should get investigated for that.
01:41:17.000They were investigated by the world's leading pediatric gastroenterologist at the time, Professor Walker Smith, who you've just mentioned, my co-author on the paper, and he found that they had an inflammatory bowel disease.
01:41:29.000Not only did the bowel disease symptoms improve, but the behavioral and autistic symptoms improved.
01:41:36.000It was the beginning of a fascinating journey, but We had to investigate whether the parents were also right about whether the vaccine had precipitated this.
01:41:46.000And so Murdoch's brought his team of journalists along, Brian Deer, they came up with this extraordinary story that we had involved ourselves in fraud and deception, that we had made it up, there was no ethical approval, all of this kind of thing, while at the same time holding back from the General Medical Council inquiry vital documents ...that showed there was indeed ethical approval for this study.
01:42:10.000He knew throughout the investigation and the proceedings that he had in his possession key documents.
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01:46:58.000You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.
01:47:05.000Live from Austin, Texas it's Alex Jones.
01:47:35.000Former General Counsel of the Federal Communications Commission uniquely positioned to be able to really tell us what's going on.
01:47:42.000I've never seen behavior like I've seen.
01:47:47.000from the executive and then the Republican leadership seems to roll over because they're licking their lips, I guess, to have all this power when they get a president in charge.
01:47:56.000So, again, I'm worried about an imperial presidency, not even so much Obama.
01:48:00.000But I am shocked by the left that if Bush was trying something like this, you would have just heard howls and...
01:48:08.000And now they say, hey, a lot of them make Obama a dictator.
01:48:38.000To a government that's acting in secret.
01:48:40.000And so, the whole idea that... When I was working as counsel on the Iran Conflict Committee, this is during the Reagan period.
01:48:49.000I mean, President Reagan was having Secretary of State George Shultz testify as National Security Advisor was testifying, Cap Weinberger was testifying as Secretary of Defense.
01:50:04.000Well also, they promised to release the 332 pages as soon as they announced it, and then they haven't released it until now.
01:50:12.000Have the Washington Post making fun of anybody that asked to see it, when we know they printed it up in book form, and they've been waving it around on TV for a month with this red tape around it.
01:50:25.000So I guess if they don't testify to Congress, why ever release it?
01:50:27.000They can be like the CIA, it'll just be secret.
01:50:30.000Yeah, I mean, and say, secret government is antithetical to anything like representative democracy.
01:50:37.000How can you have a government that doesn't even tell you what it's doing?
01:50:40.000After all, we get to decide to approve or disapprove.
01:50:43.000What's being done here, they don't get to issue by decree.
01:50:46.000You know, there are elections and things can change.
01:50:48.000And there's this arrogance that's totally antithetical to what our founding fathers thought, you know, a free and open government would be about.
01:50:57.000Other points, where do you expect this to go?
01:51:01.000The Hill, and I think rightly says, that this has to go through a gauntlet, these rules, and that that's why they're not releasing them.
01:51:08.000So I guess they think they want to win the propaganda war, that they're protecting the internet, before they roll this out by stealth.
01:51:15.000But that isn't working for Obamacare, because as they roll it out, it becomes more unpopular by the day.
01:51:21.000So why are they engaging in this tactic?
01:51:25.000Well, they may be trying to bolster their defenses against what's sure to be a legal attack on the net neutrality rules.
01:51:35.000Court of Appeals in the District of Columbia, has rebuked the FCC on numerous occasions for overreach.
01:51:42.000They may be worried that the shallowness of their explanations need butchering before there's going to be an immediate appeal.
01:51:50.000And perhaps my expectation, Alex, would be that there'll be a stay of the FCC rules until there's a final court adjudication, which means there's years away, given the legal frailty of their promulgation.
01:52:09.000What do you think is going to happen in your gut?
01:52:11.000I mean, the sense of Congress, the sense of the country, the sense of the other administrators and lawyers you talk to.
01:52:43.000You know, the empire of psychology hasn't changed.
01:52:46.000And we have, I think, Alex, anywhere from 30, maybe 35 years to completely reorient ourselves as a country whose influence abroad is the influence of example.
01:52:58.000We need to restore separation of powers back home, transparency.
01:53:03.000We defend ourselves, but we don't go abroad in search of monsters to destroy.
01:53:08.000Borrow 18, 19, 20 trillion dollars running around the world like Don Quixote, thinking that we can change cultures that are a thousand, five thousand years old.
01:53:17.000ethnic rivalries and despotism into democracies.
01:53:59.000That's like saying, you know, General Custer's lab battle of the Little Big Orange is the model by which we'll fight the future Indian wars.
01:55:05.000There's a giant five-story, and then a four-story, and a three-story complex.
01:55:09.000With black sites where people have died, where people are kept for up to two days shackled, and aren't even put in the arrest database in Chicago to then ring these fake confessions.
01:55:22.000They send police lieutenants and others from there to then run operations at torture camps at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, Afghanistan, and Iraq.
01:55:34.000No, there have been cases in the past year, I think was one, where people just disappeared into the jaws of the CIA, where you were kidnapped and held for years illegally.
01:55:45.000But I'm not fully apprised of what you've described there.
01:55:48.000I don't want to miss the opportunity to explain Rand Paul.
01:55:52.000Sure, he clearly is going to be the one most attacked, because he's challenging the military-industrial complex that President Eisenhower warned us about 50-some years ago.
01:56:03.000So they'll be making up all sorts of things about Rand and trying to obscure his popularity.
01:56:09.000And we need to remember, too, we're never going to get a candidate that is 100% everything we agree on.
01:56:16.000You know, no one's a clone of anybody else.
01:56:18.000He runs for office and there are different demands than being a philosopher and writing something perfect.
01:56:24.000We shouldn't squander the good on the altar of the perfect.
01:56:28.000This is ridiculous to suggest that Rand doesn't deserve our support because there's a few semicolons and curly Qs that we disagree with.
01:56:37.000On the fundamental issues of who we are as a nation and of liberty being the center of our constitutional universe, he's heads and shoulders above any other candidate in the last 20 Sure, nobody else is saying end all the foreign aid.
01:56:50.000Nobody else is saying massively slash taxes.
01:57:13.000That is a champion of the First Amendment right there, and a guy of action.
01:57:17.000Bruce Fine, very honored to have him on with us, BruceFineLaw.com.
01:57:21.000And finally tonight, I want to thank all of you for spending part of your Sunday with us, and for spreading the word about the fight for human liberty, not just here in the U.S., but worldwide.
01:57:30.000Lord willing, I'll be back tomorrow in studio live, 11 a.m.
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