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00:00:22.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:26.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones just had a nice talk with Michael Savage during the break and he said, uh, Alex, you're the only host that gets me to blow my voice out.
00:00:43.000I said, of course, feel free to do it.
00:00:44.000He's still going to be live later this afternoon, but part of the show will be this last hour, uh, because he did, did just blow his voice out.
00:00:51.000He was coughing during the break, uh, because it is, we're being assaulted.
00:00:55.000And even if you don't agree with me a hundred percent or Michael Savage, a hundred percent, We are being conquered.
00:01:01.000And we're not being conquered like, you know, the Romans show up and they give you aqueducts, and you're still kind of a slave, but, you know, it's better than the slavery you had a year before.
00:01:09.000Because you could argue some of those regimes, you know, about 2,000 years ago, 3,000 years ago, 2,200 years ago, when the Roman Empire started up, were worse than the Romans.
00:01:22.000It's not like loving space aliens have showed up that want to give us free energy.
00:01:25.000It's like aliens have showed up that want to harvest our organs or something.
00:01:30.000And I'm not saying the globalists are aliens.
00:01:47.000And then they're at war with free market rich people, because I know, I've been in these communities, I know a lot of rich people, I've been invited to some very interesting places, and they'll be like helicopter pads across the way, and they'll say, yeah, that guy's the CEO of this, you know, he hates my guts, and this guy over here is okay, but he's leaving the country.
00:02:06.000And that lady over there, I'm kind of working on her, but you know, she's just ignorant.
00:02:09.000She got ignorant people that are ultra-rich.
00:02:11.000You got really hard-working folks that made their money themselves or took some family money and made it even bigger.
00:03:05.000And you see that in sociology, it comes out, but it's much worse than the statistics show.
00:03:09.000It is... I know so many people that also know really rich people, some of the biggest names in America, and I'll say, at dinner I'll say, tell me, what are they into sexually?
00:03:25.000And I'll say, what are they into religiously?
00:03:27.000And always out of the person's mouth is, Satanism?
00:03:34.000I mean, these are really unhappy people.
00:03:37.000And that's all they've got is the darkness.
00:03:38.000And I don't mean some guy that goes to a rock and roll show and wears a pentagram t-shirt because he thinks the devil's cool.
00:03:44.000I mean people with helicopters and 15 jets and 20 mansions and, you know, had mistresses when they were 15 years old and now have, you know, just sex operatives all over the place.
00:03:55.000I mean, these folks are completely jacked.
00:04:01.000And they know talent when they see it, too.
00:04:05.000They know resistance when they see it.
00:04:09.000And I told people this 18 years ago, and I've told people this over time, and now folks can see that it was true.
00:04:18.000A lot of it's come out in the news, but I personally was offered, you know, to join the New World Order repeatedly.
00:04:28.000Off record, and people say, well just tell us who.
00:04:31.000Well then if I do that, I've lost the confidence.
00:04:33.000I don't, even if it's a bad person, if they're not telling me something illegal, and it's in confidence, I don't ever tell them.
00:05:21.000Former US President Bill Clinton, whose past predatory behavior is once again in the spotlight after Hillary tried unsuccessfully to play the sexism card against Trump.
00:05:31.000For years, Bill Cosby continued raking in millions while the media covered up his dirt in order to preserve his legacy.
00:05:37.000But even after exposing years of predatory sexual behavior, Bill Clinton remains a highly revered member of the Democratic Party, pulling in tens of millions of dollars in speaking fees while Hillary was Secretary of State.
00:05:50.000For someone running a campaign on female empowerment, Hillary can't seem to shake accusations that she defamed, threatened, and attempted to personally destroy Bill's bimbos in order to silence them and protect their abuser and her rise to power.
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00:08:39.000Well, I could not think of a better guest to have on to give us more information about the Benghazi hearings and about the current situation that he predicted back when Benghazi happened, now unfolding in Syria.
00:08:56.000And that's because he ran Operation Stratus, Ivy, Able Danger and other secret operations against Al Qaeda and the Wahhabis in Afghanistan and other countries.
00:09:06.000And he was ordered not once but twice to not pull the trigger to kill bin Laden when they knew exactly where he was in 2001 before 9-11.
00:09:16.000We just, of course, had Michael Savage on in the last hour.
00:09:18.000Dr. Jerome Corsi's coming up in the next hour.
00:09:20.000Colonel Schaeffer joins us for the next 20 minutes.
00:09:23.000LondonCenter.org is one of the consultancies he is engaged in.
00:09:29.000He, of course, blew the whistle about some of the stand-downs going after Bin Laden.
00:09:32.000They tried to persecute him as a whistleblower, but he survived that thanks to support.
00:09:37.000He's also a best-selling author and has a new book out we'll tell you about as well.
00:09:42.000But before we do that, I've just got to say, well, Colonel Schaefer, it's got to be good for you, being one of the first people to expose what was happening in Benghazi, and I know taking a lot of heat, but now see more and more of it come out.
00:09:56.000Has that taken some of the heat off you?
00:10:03.000With that said, it's been a very unpopular position even now because, you know, at the heart of this is really Hillary Clinton, who is the chosen one for the Democrat candidacy for president.
00:10:16.000So as much as I think rational people Uh, and by the way, I've been getting questions from the left, from my friends on the left, saying, hey, do you really think this is all true?
00:10:27.000And, uh, I think the hearings should have, if it was a Democrat, uh, Congress questioning a Republican candidate, it would have been a little over for that candidate.
00:10:35.000But instead, the very email, Alex, which they have completely chosen, showed that she, she, Ms.
00:10:44.000And even at the end, when they ask her about the arms deal, which by the way, has been highly documented.
00:10:49.000By the investigation, by whistleblowers, everybody knows there was an arms deal at the heart of Benghazi.
00:10:55.000She got away with lying about that, which, frankly, at this point, my understanding is that Congress is now looking at perjury charges because they have evidence that she did know about the arms deal of trying to get these arms moved around Libya, moving them into Turkey, which then in turn, they would be moved into Syria.
00:11:12.000And by the way, another guy who I respect immensely was involved in that.
00:11:16.000Lieutenant General Mike Flynn, the director of BIA, has admitted on the record that, yes, he was part of the arms deal.
00:11:22.000He was directed to do this sort of thing.
00:11:23.000So, Alex, there's just no doubt about what was at the center of Benghazi.
00:11:28.000And yet the mainstream media continues to ignore it.
00:11:31.000And people like me continue to, you know, media matters even now consistently says that somehow I'm fantasizing about what happened in Benghazi.
00:11:42.000Well, you were one of the first within a week of it happening to come on this show and to go on Fox and other channels and talk about an arms deal, talk about the Turkish ambassador, to break down what happened, to warn about missiles getting into the hands of Al-Qaeda.
00:11:57.000The fact that ISIS, once it came up a few years ago, you said no.
00:12:27.000Because clearly, Alex, part of the issue now becomes talking to the other side.
00:12:31.000The Republicans use this to their advantage.
00:12:33.000So, I think if Hillary does survive the primaries, the Republicans are going to go into this with a great deal of ammunition to use against her.
00:12:41.000Because this is all, again, on the record.
00:12:42.000So, yeah, I think my Democrat friends are pretty upset with me about the fact that, you know, there are Democrats who actually recognize what's going on, but because they're so loyal to their party, they choose to look the other way.
00:12:56.000And those are the guys I think I'm in most with odds with.
00:12:58.000But then again, you know, we've talked to, part of what I do, my job is to talk to presidential candidates.
00:13:05.000I can't say by name who they are, but we've talked to them all as best we can.
00:13:09.000And the idea is we're going to give them factual information that is based on what is known and can be proven via hard copy documents.
00:13:19.000So this now, at this point, like you point out, Alex, this is all hard copy, well-researched, fully recognized as fact, that there was an arms deal, that Hillary Clinton was involved, that the deal went bad, and she knew the night of the attack, or the day after, the 12th of September, That you had Al-Qaeda terrorists involved.
00:13:42.000And frankly, I still stand by my belief that they were fully willing to allow Chris Stevens to go to his death knowing something was going to happen.
00:13:50.000Well, I've interviewed other whistleblowers after you've been on, Tosh Plumley, others, CIA pilots and others.
00:14:19.000Did somebody in a government outside of Al Qaeda want to get rid of the ambassador so there wouldn't be any fingerprints on this arms transfer?
00:14:31.000Well, it's very clear at this point that Stevens was the key.
00:14:40.000You know, it was his interest to do this.
00:14:42.000They really thought, Alex, at the time, and this is one of the big misconceptions I think we're going to continue to face for this, for this mistake for years, that the Muslim Brotherhood could be a trusted ally.
00:14:52.000That they would be a good ally, a good proxy to work with us in place of our other Arab allies.
00:14:58.000And that was what their assumption was.
00:15:00.000So I think when they started seeing that the Brotherhood was not going to be a good partner, they were too far in to say, we can't, we can't stop it.
00:15:07.000I think they got themselves in over their head.
00:15:10.000I think Chris Stevens was part of that, that completely ill-thought, badly managed effort to bring the Brotherhood into essentially our sphere of influence.
00:15:19.000And I think because of that, because they all start going bad.
00:15:22.000And look, Hillary Clinton is not a stupid woman at all.
00:15:25.000I think they recognized that as much as they needed to get rid of information to get rid of people, this was a good way to let things fly.
00:16:46.000Now that we see the aftermath years later, ISIS, which is just al-Qaeda, as you do in your organization, You go around, educate Congress, you educate the candidates.
00:16:56.000You're in an info war with the truth, when the White House three years ago was saying, oh these are all good rebels, they're wonderful.
00:17:02.000You went and exposed with other military people that it was almost all radical Saudi Arabian Wahhabis.
00:17:49.000They know, for example, Alex, that these things are kind of scattered all over.
00:17:54.000And I think this is where the real fear remains, because the last time a credible terrorist organization tried this was Al-Qaeda in 2002 in Kenya, where they attempted to take down two Israeli charter aircraft.
00:18:06.000It didn't work for any number of reasons, thank goodness, but imagine now we have that situation where Al-Qaeda does have, and ISIS does have, Literally crazy these things.
00:18:16.000And I think this is where we don't know what's going on and I think we're blind.
00:18:20.000Well, I don't know exactly what the leadership was thinking other than they thought they could cut deals with some of these really worst of the worst terrorists to think that they could be our partners in the Middle East to bring some level of different stability.
00:18:33.000And frankly, you know, the whole thing of trying to partner with the Free Syrian Army and the Al-Nusra Front, it was all ill-conceived.
00:18:41.000But I think, to be honest with you, there's an arrogance on the left, Alex, that permeates their thinking, where they think they're the smartest people in the room.
00:18:50.000We had Jeffrey Skilling right down there in Texas in Enron thinking that they were the smartest guys in the room, and they could do things that no one else has ever done.
00:18:58.000I think that thought has been one of the problems with the left, where they will think, you know, despite the fact they have all these people available to them who will help educate them, they think they're smarter than everybody else, and they go off on these really idiotic, ill-conceived concepts of operations, which result in tragedy, and I think that's what's going on here.
00:19:18.000Well, I want to recap one of the best moments I've seen in the U.S.
00:19:22.000Army and just the Pentagon in general, really showing some moral leadership.
00:19:28.000I mean, I wouldn't say mutiny against the President, but just not following illegal orders.
00:19:33.000As you know, and if you can talk about some of the inside baseball that's not classified, I'd like to hear some more.
00:20:18.000That's like a moment where it's not Operation Valkyrie with the military trying to take out Hitler in Germany.
00:20:24.000It's just the military saying, we're not going to follow that order.
00:20:27.000Well, everybody recognized, Alex, that the people we were trying to support were indeed completely affiliated, if not wholly owned, by Al-Qaeda.
00:20:46.000But, frankly, we recognize what happened in Libya when we allowed for those elements to include Al-Qaeda.
00:20:53.000And by the way, do you remember, Alex, Al-Qaddafi was warning us, saying, hey, these people who are opposing me are not the simple, you know, revolutionary thinkers who want democracy.
00:21:05.000And sure enough, we have a combination of Al-Qaeda and ISIS now running Libya.
00:21:09.000So this is clearly something the military and the people I deal with understood from day one.
00:21:14.000You cannot bring in al-Qaeda thinking that they're going to be an ally to keep rid of Assad and think somehow they're going to continue to support your position.
00:21:23.000We helped create something called the Akhani Network as part of the Pakistani intelligence service back in the 80s to go against the Russians.
00:21:33.000Well, once the Russians left, the Connie Network supported coming after us.
00:21:37.000They've been one of the main killers of US and Afghan forces since we've been there.
00:21:43.000So we cannot believe for a minute that Al-Qaeda or its affiliates or anyone who believes like Al-Qaeda can be dealt with in a friendly way to achieve a short-term objective They're not going to come back after us to attack us after that fact.
00:22:00.000But again, we have these political leaders who, Alex, think they're smarter than everybody else, and they continue to try to do these truly insane, dangerous things.
00:22:09.000Colonel Schaffer is our guest, LondonCenter.org.
00:22:12.000Just segwaying briefly, one of your latest books predicts the breakdown of the border, basically a soft civil war.
00:22:59.000Why are they so affiliated with radical Islamists that would put a hood over their wife's head and literally not let women drive cars?
00:23:06.000Why is the left supporting these people?
00:23:09.000Well, I think the left is essentially the vanguard of the third world.
00:23:12.000I mean, I had a friend of mine basically posit that this morning.
00:23:15.000Basically, they are the third world, and they're trying to make cuts to the third world.
00:23:20.000So that's why you see this sort of thing.
00:23:21.000They want to import people who will radicalize, who will de-establish the basic Western principles which have made us very strong.
00:23:29.000The conditions that we've created in the West, Alex, for better or for worse, are the best mankind has ever seen.
00:23:34.000We have the most people ever who have clean water, clean homes, It used to be a good healthcare system which is now being diminished by Obamacare and again this third world idea that we have to essentially treat everybody the same.
00:23:56.000You should be living at a level like someone lives in, say, rural Kenya.
00:24:01.000And their idea of fairness is we're all the same.
00:24:03.000And anything extraordinary, anything that's good or bad, it's all the same.
00:24:07.000So I think that's why you see the left work so hard here to destabilize every Western nation.
00:24:12.000And that's something we have to be aware of.
00:24:14.000And then you've got these ultra-rich that make their money off of government contracts, waging war against new rich who actually create jobs and wealth, teaming up with the third world.
00:24:38.000I think it's not a question of if but when.
00:24:41.000They try, or they succeed, to shoot down one or more major passenger liners on the outskirts, maybe Eastern Europe, Russia, wherever they can get these missiles.
00:24:50.000Can they get the missiles into Western Europe?
00:25:02.000What you see right now, as you point out aptly, is that these males These so-called refugees are actually military-age males are going in as a vanguard.
00:25:10.000And the first thing you do as a terrorist organization, Alex, you set up a trusted network, a clandestine network.
00:25:14.000Once you have the network in place, you can move these things around with impunity.
00:25:18.000Right now, they don't have a trusted network that can do that.
00:25:20.000You saw the attacks in France where ISIS and al-Qaeda was able to do a few things under the radar.
00:25:26.000They're finding AK-47s full auto from the Middle East now in France.
00:25:34.000So now then, if you see it works, then you expand it.
00:25:37.000So now you see the expansion of phase one of getting all these people into Europe and setting up trusted client-vested networks.
00:25:43.000After the network's in place, Alex, they can move the vessels around with security.
00:25:47.000There's no way law enforcement or intelligence can stop and search every single vehicle moving around, or every single boat coming in and out.
00:25:54.000So again, once you flood the market, so to speak, it makes it infinitely easier to move weapons such as stingers around.
00:26:02.000You can deal with an AK-47 on a low scale, basically increased by an order of magnitude, and then you can do it with impunity.
00:26:08.000That's where they're going with all this.
00:26:11.000The Russians, where do you see the situation in Syria going?
00:26:15.000How big of a defeat to Obama was it that Putin came in?
00:26:19.000Do you think the Russians are being suckered into a new Afghanistan?
00:26:24.000I think the Russians are seeing, I think it was an attack, I think it was done by a Lockerbie type attack where you had a bomb on the aircraft or a suicide bomber.
00:26:34.000All the pictures I've seen, Alex, it's a case to me that it was an explosion from the inside, not an explosion from the outside.
00:26:49.000Again, this is our one joint objective, it should be, is stabilizing Syria.
00:26:53.000Even if you don't like Assad, stabilize Syria, because otherwise you're going to continue to see al-Qaeda and ISIS Kind of using that region as a base of operation.
00:27:01.000And of course, Al Qaeda hits Russia even more than they hit us on average.
00:27:22.000No, the Russians are doing what I think we should have been doing.
00:27:25.000I think it's why it's such a big blow to President Obama, frankly, Alex.
00:27:28.000And with that said, you know, our military, I've talked to the folks in the Senate, our military will continue to conduct itself professionally with the Russians.
00:27:35.000We're not going to do anything to antagonize them as much as I think that can't be said of the other side.
00:27:41.000With that said, we've got to come to an agreement of what we're focused on regarding joint objectives.
00:27:45.000Unfortunately, long term, we have to accept, Alex, that they're trying to put together what I would call the Damascus Pact, essentially a form of the Warsaw Pact in the Middle East where they're joining the Iranians Yes.
00:28:19.000And I think that's what we need to do.
00:28:20.000Let's understand that Russians and us, if we share that one focus area, we should focus on that for now and then worry about what to do after that, after we defeat ISIS and Al-Qaeda.
00:28:29.000I really appreciate you giving us time.
00:28:32.000Spend a minute on your books you've written and the one predicting the border situation.
00:28:38.000Well, the last line, Alex, you've done a great job of allowing me to talk about it.
00:28:42.000Look, we recognize that you live there more than I do.
00:28:45.000In fact, the border's breaking down, and people want it to break down.
00:28:49.000So the last line, essentially, is kind of looking at all the different people who could be involved, and essentially, like you point out, a soft coup d'etat, looking at people who have interests that are really meant to undermine and soften our ability to defend the nation.
00:29:01.000That's ongoing, and it's something we have to all be concerned about.
00:29:04.000My first book, Operation Dark Heart, is about the war in Afghanistan and how we need to go about trying to... We can still pull a victory out there and I'm hopeful that we can do a lot more to...
00:29:15.000It's scary to have political leadership that's never been in the military telling the military what to do and seeing these disasters.
00:29:22.000their own political power and not protecting American people.
00:29:25.000And that's what we should be focused on.
00:29:27.000It's scary to have political leadership that's never been in the military telling the military what to do and then seeing these disasters.
00:29:33.000Colonel Schaefer, thank you so much, and thank God for being there.
00:30:21.000Former US President Bill Clinton, whose past predatory behavior is once again in the spotlight after Hillary tried unsuccessfully to play the sexism card against Trump.
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00:30:50.000For someone running a campaign on female empowerment, Hillary can't seem to shake accusations that she defamed, threatened, and attempted to personally destroy Bill's bimbos in order to silence them and protect their abuser and her rise to power.
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00:34:22.000I've got so many questions, but you are vindicated.
00:34:25.000This has got to be the 50th time the last six months on the radical Muslim celebrating not just in New Jersey, but New York, Palestine, all over.
00:34:41.000We've got, I mean, what's going on here?
00:34:44.000Well, I took a lot of heat and I was very strong on it and I held my line and then all of a sudden, you know, hundreds of people were calling up my office.
00:34:51.000I was the other day in Sarasota, Florida and people are in line and we had 12,000 people, which is fantastic.
00:34:57.000And the people were saying, many of the people from New Jersey, four or five people said, Mr. Trump, I saw it myself.
00:35:32.000And that same week you were reporting on that fact, we had two different international football games, soccer games, with the Turkish fans and others during the moment of silence for the dead people in Paris chanting Allah Akbar and booing.
00:36:05.000We have people that truly are evil and they're coming from someplace and you know sort of where they're coming from, at least the vicinity.
00:36:13.000And I said, we need proper surveillance, whether it's a mosque or any place else, we have to be surveilled and we have to see what's coming at us because we're not going to have a country anymore between the weak borders that we have, the pathetic and weak borders where politicians are afraid to do anything about it, between all of what's happening with radical, you know, you look at what's going on, you have a president that doesn't even want to talk about, you know, the radical Muslim stuff.
00:36:42.000But you look at what's happening where we have a president that's over there celebrating global warming and trying to get everybody excited about global warming, like that's our number one problem.
00:36:51.000He considers that to be our number one problem.
00:36:54.000And our number one problem is what's going on where they want to blow up our cities and they want to blow up our country.
00:37:01.000And then our number two problem is Crippled America, your number one New York Times bestseller.
00:37:05.000We're going to talk about that in a few minutes, but let's continue with the number one problem, and I agree with you.
00:37:09.000It's now in mainstream news, Associated Press and others are reporting that it's a secret deal with Turkey, with the Germans, with Merkel, the admitted socialist, to bring in millions of radical Islamists, they admit almost all of them are Sunni, that basically invaded Syria.
00:37:28.000They're getting their butt kicked by the Russians, so now they want to flee up to the north into Turkey.
00:37:33.000You said months ago, bomb the oil of ISIS, and the mainstream media laughed because you said the sky was blue again.
00:37:39.000Now the Pentagon says that's the right thing to do.
00:37:42.000And now you've come out saying, quote, it looks like That Turkey's on the side of ISIS, close quote.
00:37:50.000Well, the next day the Russians released satellite photos documenting that there are literally thousands of trucks coming up to the border at these huge terminals connected to Irgun, the president's son, making billions of dollars total off of this.
00:38:05.000Again, you're in trouble for saying the sky is blue.
00:38:10.000I was right in saying in a book that I wrote, you covered it really nicely, I appreciate it, but I wrote a very political book years ago in the year 2000, The America We Deserve, and I said in that book that we better be careful with this guy named Osama Bin Laden.
00:38:23.000I mean, I really study this stuff, I really find it very interesting, and even though I'm a businessman, I find it, I've always found, I've always been involved in politics.
00:38:32.000I said, we better be careful with Osama Bin Laden.
00:38:34.000There's a guy named Osama Bin Laden, nobody really knew who he was, but He was nasty.
00:38:38.000He was saying really nasty things about our country and what he wants to do to it.
00:38:43.000And I wrote in a book, 2000, two years before the World Trade Center came down, I talked about Osama bin Laden.
00:39:09.000So with the oil, and I'm glad you brought it up, but as you know, for three years, I've been saying you better take out the oil because if you don't take the oil, it's going to be a problem.
00:39:26.000Then, we didn't take the oil, so ISIS got the oil, and as you know, Iran is getting the oil, because Iran is going to take over all of Iraq.
00:39:33.000You know, we made one of the worst deals in the history of our world when we gave them $150 billion, and virtually we gave them keys to nuclear weapons.
00:39:43.000You are the leading presidential frontrunner, with the Republicans gaining a huge lead as you don't back down, but I've got to just back you up again, because the more I research what you've actually said and done, it's amazing.
00:39:54.000You were the only leading American figure who openly said do not go to war in Iraq.
00:40:00.000They had almost, what, 90% votes in Congress for it, bipartisan.
00:40:04.000You said don't do it, Iran will take over.
00:40:07.000I mean, look, you can say that today and everybody can say that, but you said that in 2001, 2002, 2003 when it was very unpopular because you've done your research and had good advisors.
00:40:18.000How did you know that when almost no one else did?
00:40:21.000Well, first of all, I'm the most militaristic person there is.
00:40:44.000They go to war all the time, and they'd move ten feet left, ten feet right, ten feet left, then they'd rest, and then they'd start it again four years later.
00:41:12.000Well, and I said, and you'll know this, and you know this, and I appreciate what you just said, then Iran is going to come in and Iran is going to take over Iraq.
00:41:22.000And they're just taking it over right now.
00:41:36.000And I said, if you're gonna leave, you shouldn't have gone in, but they shouldn't have, they should have left soldiers behind, like 20,000 or a certain number of soldiers.
00:41:43.000But if you're gonna leave, take the oil.
00:42:10.000They outsmart us on every level, militarily, they outsmart us on trade, like, we're losing, we have a $450 billion trade deficit with China.
00:42:19.000You're a top business guy on your own from nothing.
00:42:22.000How did China get 97% of rare earth minerals in the world?
00:42:28.000How is the United States or nobody else even trying to get rare earth minerals when it's what goes in the smartphones, the computers, trillions is made a year?
00:42:35.000How did we just give them the global market in that?
00:42:38.000Well, what a lot of people don't know, Afghanistan.
00:42:41.000Now, Afghanistan is a place we can go in because, you know, you have Pakistan and you have nuclear weapons and a lot of things going on there.
00:44:18.000Well, number one, and just to finish on the oil, by the way, I say hit the oil, but we should keep the oil.
00:44:22.000In other words, we should keep, we'll get Exxon Mobil, they'll go in, we'll get other of our oil companies, we'll get some of the great oil companies we bidded at.
00:45:27.000My audience, I'd say 90% support you, okay?
00:45:31.000And you definitely have shown your knowledge of geopolitical systems.
00:45:36.000Hillary and others have been demonizing you for saying radical Muslims celebrated on 9-11, but she got caught a few years ago Claiming that she got shot at in Bosnia, in the air, on the ground.
00:46:15.000The best thing that we have going with Obama is he's got a year left, okay?
00:46:19.000Because, you know, by the time you do the hearings and everything, I don't... So don't make him a martyr.
00:46:24.000In a way, you'll make him a martyr, but I don't even say that.
00:46:26.000You know, one of the things that I'm the most disappointed in Republicans, because they go to Washington, they're going to do all this stuff, they're going to impeach Obama, they're going to end Obamacare, which has to be ended.
00:46:36.000I don't know if you've seen the premiums they're going up.
00:47:28.000You know, everybody running against me, in terms of even the Republican side, and Hillary certainly, they're all controlled by their donors and their special interests and the lobbyists.
00:47:48.000You know, you've made tens of millions of dollars.
00:47:50.000You've hired tens of thousands of people.
00:47:52.000I mean, I would imagine that as you've gotten older, correct me if I'm wrong, because I know you talked about wanting to serve America decades ago, really all it comes down to is wanting to have a free country for your children and grandchildren.
00:48:02.000And that's where I want to come to this point next.
00:48:04.000Because I know you're smart, sir, and I know that you also, though, you don't dumb your message down, but you keep it at a mid-level so the general public and the establishment as well can get it.
00:48:15.000I routinely talk to the top generals, special forces, Pentagon currently, out of the Pentagon, CIA, as I know you do, and we'll just leave it at that.
00:48:27.000There are a lot of people in this government and also retired who don't want to destroy the country.
00:48:31.000They really know that we've reached the crossroads where the country's done as a third world nation within a few more years.
00:48:36.000Forget Donald Trump in four years if this happens, we're done.
00:48:39.000I mean, we're talking about resurrecting the dead here.
00:48:41.000We could turn it around right now, as you've said properly, you're dead on, sir, you're right.
00:48:45.000We could turn it around, all the actuaries, all the numbers show it.
00:48:48.000But it's got to happen in the next few years or we're done.
00:48:50.000And there are globalists that want to have a world government, a system run by select crony capitalists, using socialism at the grassroots to make people dependent.
00:48:58.000And I've talked to not just high-level folks that have been in government that are on your team, but separately high-level people in government currently that say there's an internal war going on and that you're a manifestation of that.
00:49:10.000I don't want to get anything inside baseball with you, but I already know the inside baseball.
00:49:14.000I know now from top people that you actually are for real and you understand you're in danger and you understand what you're doing is epic.
00:49:22.000It's George Washington level and you understand that office.
00:49:25.000So I want to tell you right now, can you speak about the war for the soul of this country that's happening right now and really tell people what's happening and commit to people that you won't Ross Perot under death threats and step down when you're in the lead two months from the election?
00:50:12.000It's not an easy thing, but the key is make America great again.
00:50:15.000We can make America great again, but if you have to suffer through four more or eight more years of what's gone on in the past and, you know, what's going, just, we're being eaten away.
00:50:25.000It's just, it's eating away at our country, and we can make In my opinion, we can make America greater than ever before.
00:50:58.000Are we at a crossroads to decide whether this country's done or whether we go to the next level?
00:51:02.000Well, I think this, I think that, sadly, I think that if we don't get it right this time, I think this is going to be the most important election our country's ever had.
00:51:10.000I mean, you'd have to say George Washington was right there, you know, the couple of pretty important elections, right?
00:51:14.000But this is certainly in the last, in the modern era, this is the most important election our country's ever had.
00:51:20.000If we don't get it right, if we put another one of these people in, like Hillary, I mean, she's so corrupt.
00:51:27.000She is so corrupt and she shouldn't even be allowed to run.
00:51:31.000And frankly, her greatest legacy, she was a horrible Secretary of State.
00:51:35.000If she runs, I think her greatest legacy will be that she got out of the email scandal.
00:51:53.000But, you know, the recent Fox poll that just came down two days ago has me beating her head to head, which is very interesting and very good, and beating her soundly head to head.
00:52:04.000Our country can be absolutely, we can turn it around, but I would agree with you, if we don't get it right this time, I'm not sure if you go another four or eight years with the insanity and the stupidity of these leaders, I'm not sure you're going to be able to turn it around anymore.
00:52:20.000Donald Trump, the man in the arena, his new book, we're going to talk about in a moment, is exposing the fact that this country is being sabotaged by design.
00:52:28.000Specifically, I don't want to bring up detractors.
00:52:30.000And it's a question I had early on, but then I did more research, and I understand that you really do want to save this country where your children and grandchildren live, but let's expand on this.
00:52:40.000There are certain pundits out there saying you played golf with Bill Clinton, And so, you know, you had to do business in New York, so you said nice things about Hillary.
00:52:50.000I get keeping your enemies closer when you're not, you know, in politics.
00:53:02.000The whole system's coming on against you.
00:53:03.000But promise us that you're not going to...
00:53:07.000Drop out at the key moment, keeping all the other Republicans out of view, and then Hillary races to the head, or Jeb Bush does, because as you know, folks are claiming you're a Clinton operative.
00:56:03.000But I have respect for a number of people that are on the stage with me.
00:56:06.000I have respect for a lot of people that are throughout this country, you know, political people.
00:56:12.000I'll pick somebody I think that can really be a great vice president, ultimately has to be a great president, because that's, you know, 90% of that function is, you know, if something bad happens, they got to be a good president.
00:56:23.000You have to view it from that standpoint.
00:56:24.000And my favorite president in the more or less modern era would be Ronald Reagan.
00:56:28.000I've always I liked him, I helped him.
00:57:14.000I'd say Ronald Reagan, uh, shorter term, I would say... Well, you know, you look at Lincoln, you look at Washington, you have to go with... They're the classics, right, Alex?
00:57:23.000You know, you think in terms of the great classics, you have to go with the Lincolns and the Washingtons.
00:58:25.000It might sound crass, but if we don't make our nation rich again, if we don't take back our jobs from all these other countries that are ripping us, And if we don't take back our money, and if we don't, you know, balance up our budget, at least get it damn close and soon, we're not going to have a nation anymore.
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01:00:55.000All over the country, they're announcing the new coffin apartments.
01:00:59.000They call them smart, like smart missiles.
01:01:03.000They're meant to blow your savings up.
01:01:06.000They admit they can build more of them, charge higher rent per square foot, and then get more property tax, where you can pay more in property tax than you do even for rent.
01:02:15.000I'm here to tell you that I did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky, and I did settle, was it five cases of alleged rape, out of court.
01:02:24.000You don't think I'd do something like that, do you?
01:02:30.000You know, I love the fact that Trump's going after him for all the sex stuff because He and Bill Cosby deserves it, which he well may.
01:02:38.000I think some of it's true, some of it isn't.
01:02:49.000Where the governor's manager, he'd say, Step in here, I want to talk to you in my office, please, ma'am.
01:02:52.000And then he would get them in a closet and just start choking them and then bite their upper lip while he talked through his mouth, going, I'm gonna rip your lip off if you just resist me.
01:03:20.000And boy, do I have a lot to go over with him.
01:03:22.000I want to talk about Iraqi commander claims that U.S.
01:03:25.000secretly evacuating ISIS leaders to safety.
01:03:29.000I want to get into Congressman Paul, appalled by NSA spying on Congress.
01:03:35.000And where all that is going, I mean, so much to talk about with Sy Hirsh, but the big thing is his new book, Military to Military.
01:03:43.000And that deals with the fact that our military's been trying as best they can, under orders not to, to stop the radical jihadists.
01:03:52.000And of course the State Department wants to keep up the show that they're actually not with them, so that allows that purview, even though it's a fake mission, the military's actually tried to carry out the mission.
01:04:02.000So we're going to talk to the expert on this, and of course I've got all my sources as well.
01:04:07.000What's amazing is so much of what he's put out in the excerpt of his new book, Military to Military, backs up everything that our guests have basically talked about here on air.
01:04:22.000So Cy Hirsch, Coming up on the other side of this break.
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01:08:08.000For the sake of our viewers, in 2012, your agency was saying, quote, the Salafists, the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Qaeda in Iraq are the major forces driving the insurgency in Syria.
01:08:23.000In 2012, the US was helping coordinate arms transfers to those same groups.
01:08:28.000Why did you not stop that, if you're worried about the rise of, quote unquote, Islamic extremists?
01:08:32.000I mean, I hate to say it's not my job, but that...
01:08:34.000My job was to ensure that the accuracy of our intelligence that was being presented was as good as it could be.
01:08:43.000And I will tell you, it goes before 2012.
01:08:45.000I mean, when we were in Iraq, and we still had decisions to be made before there was a decision to pull out of Iraq in 2011.
01:08:53.000I mean, it was very clear what we were going to face.
01:08:58.000Welcome, my friends, to the third hour and the fourth hour that we've added.
01:09:01.000Leanne McAdoo, InfoWars Nightly News reporter, will be hosting the fourth hour of the radio slash TV broadcast that now reaches more than 20 million people a week worldwide.
01:09:12.000Very, very exciting that folks are tuned out of the whole left-right false debate of divide and conquer and are just getting back to freedom versus tyranny and making a choice.
01:09:24.000I could interview this individual for five hours.
01:09:26.000I mean, we've only got him for like 25 minutes, and I'm so excited.
01:09:31.000I mean, there are a lot of guests we've had that get me excited, but I'm about as excited about this as I've ever been about any guest.
01:09:37.000So maybe Donald Trump coming on, or Ron Paul, or Matt Drudge.
01:09:40.000I mean, it's right up there with that.
01:09:46.000Uh, you know, uh, at the end of the Vietnam War and hearing my mom, you know, talk about how great Cy Hirsch was and my dad and them reading his articles, uh, in major publications.
01:09:57.000And then of course, since I've been out of high school 25 years or so, I'm 42, I've been following his work continually.
01:10:05.000And I know most of the audience knows who he is, but I've talked to folks who don't know who Chuck Yeager is.
01:10:10.000I mean, it's crazy how ignorant some of the public are.
01:13:32.000I mean, I think one of the quintessential moments was a few years ago when Gibbs had left as White House Press Secretary and he went on MSNBC and said, yeah, you know, we knew the drone program was public and public for years, but we were told to go out there and say it didn't exist.
01:13:57.000Well, you remember the President, the current President, joked that if his daughters are getting to be of dating age, I mean look, there's nothing wrong with humor, but you have to sort of, it was at one of these annual meetings where the National Press Club gives the White House Correspondents Dinner, which I think is sort of a scandal.
01:14:17.000The press all fight to see which guy can be at their table, which person from the government, and it's sort of like kumbaya.
01:14:23.000But the President actually said that Guys better watch when they're dating his daughters.
01:14:43.000I mean, it's like Hillary saying we came, we saw, he died in Libya and laughing and then having her Brian Williams moment claiming she was attacked in Bosnia on the tarmac.
01:15:43.000whistleblowers like Tosh Plumlee on, but you've got obviously a lot better contacts than I. You've been, I know, given security clearances before, unless I'm wrong.
01:15:51.000Looking at all this, walking us through it, sir, and your incredible article, Military to Military, explain to us, as best you can tell, what has really happened in Syria.
01:16:03.000Well, the big issue is, one of the big questions is, we've demonized Bashar Assad.
01:16:13.000He's a lot better than his father, the old man Assad, you know, Hafez Assad.
01:16:19.000He was trained to be, he was the second or third son, never thought he'd be president because the older boys had the past.
01:16:25.000went to medical school, was an ophthalmologist, married a very second-generation Iraqi woman who worked for one of the national investment houses, American investment houses in London.
01:16:38.000And so he was, all of a sudden there he's called upon.
01:16:40.000His older brother dies and his father says, "You better get a couple years of Army training and get ready." So he's, look, he's hated in America.
01:16:50.000I don't think you can get five votes for him in Congress.
01:17:45.000What I wrote about, in part, was that our Joint Chief, decided some years ago on the basis of intelligence reporting that there really wasn't any option, that there really were no moderates.
01:17:56.000Although the White House keeps on talking about there are moderate groups in the opposition, there were at one time, but they were quickly taken over and cleaned out by the more radical jihadists, people who believe in Sharia law.
01:18:09.000Some of the groups we advocate as moderate have already made it clear that if they ever took over the government, no Christians, there are Alawites, that's a minority sect.
01:18:20.000She has said that Bashar Assad and about 12% of the people living in Syria belong to, none of them could be allowed to live in the country.
01:18:30.000They were talking about genocidal, you know, genocidal cleaning, cleansing, if you will, of a society.
01:18:56.000We began to, after Libya fell, we began to funnel stuff that in an earlier article I called the rat line.
01:19:04.000A lot of arms from Libya into Turkey, and from Turkey, the gentleman running Turkey, Ed Milen, is a total complete supporter of ISIS.
01:19:12.000I don't think there's any question of that, even though we deny that, our intelligence soldier.
01:19:16.000So what I wrote about is the fact that two and a half years ago, the Joint Chiefs decided, well, they can't convince the White House and the State Department of intelligence They're just going to begin to do what they can do to try and modify the American policy or make it less, you know.
01:19:35.000Nobody wants to talk about directly challenging a president.
01:19:52.000You can go back to World War II fighting.
01:19:53.000You can go back to terrible fighting in Vietnam.
01:19:56.000President Eisenhower, as the President, challenged the military-industrial complex as a system himself, the ultimate level, still a general, saying, I want to challenge the people that want to control our military for their own aims.
01:20:11.000And you can even argue that the hatred for McNamara by the time he was ready to get out of there in 67 because he refused to listen to the generals.
01:20:19.000We've always had generals in opposition.
01:20:22.000What they did, though, instead of directly challenging the Joint Chiefs, as I wrote about, beginning in the summer of 2013 after a lot of intelligence showed that our path was wrong.
01:21:03.000And I will tell you that our special operation forces, the Delta Force, the SEALs, they're terrific.
01:21:09.000They're very good at what they do, but they're being miscast.
01:21:12.000We're now in 14 and a half years of war against an idea, and the Joint Special Operations Command, for all of their ability to go hit a house at night and kill people and take them out, we're not winning that war.
01:21:25.000We've got to figure out some way to do it differently.
01:21:29.000I want to go back to the bombshell you just dropped that's in your article, Military to Military, London Review of Books, and expand on this with you.
01:21:36.000Because what you write here, and the generals you talk to, and you've got the former head of Defense Intelligence, Flynn, and others going public on Al Jazeera saying, look, we were ordered to aid Al Qaeda, ISIS, all this.
01:21:47.000This is bombshell, and it verifies stuff you were writing about years ago that you were demonized over.
01:21:54.000This is unprecedented in my lifetime to see generals on TV saying we don't want to back Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, ISIS.
01:22:03.000We don't know why we're being ordered to do this.
01:22:32.000We are supplying a great deal of material to people that we claim to be moderate, and there's no question, the first thing that happens when a small group that maybe isn't as far out as ISIS or al-Nusra, but the first thing they do is they have no choice either to sell it to them or get it taken away.
01:22:50.000So whatever we're sending there, They get bullied by the most extreme, yes sir, but when I'm getting back with you, sir, and I know you hold your cards close to your vest, you just got into the Pentagon, the Army mainly, from my sources, you're confirming it, saying, we're not going to back Al-Qaeda, al-Nusra, ISIS, we're just going to give intel to the Russians, and intel to Assad, and stop that.
01:23:10.000That is just a huge American moment that makes me so proud of the armed services.
01:23:18.000What they did was, because they didn't want to go directly to Bashar Assad, because the president had ruled that, you know, that would have been a direct violation.
01:23:26.000But we did know that the Germans in particular, the German intelligence service and the German high command, and get this, the Russians and the Israelis, All three had been in contact with Bashar Assad.
01:23:39.000Because all three, even Israel, which sometimes, you know, doesn't always speak what the real policy is.
01:23:44.000They've got a lot of problems, government problems, leadership problems.
01:23:46.000But the guys running the military and intelligence system in Israel had the same point of view as our, the guys running our, at least that were running our Joint Chiefs, because the general at the time was General Dempsey.
01:23:57.000They're saying... Martin Dempsey, who's now retired.
01:26:26.000And one of the things, you know, is there's not many reporters at a good newspaper who have the kind of, you know, there's nothing special.
01:26:34.000I have friends that I know, most of the good guys at the major papers have somebody.
01:26:38.000And when you're at that level, where you're, you know, you've got access and you're covering the Pentagon or the State Department or the White House, the last thing you want to do, I know this sounds almost It's silly.
01:26:49.000The last thing you wanna do is chase somebody else's story.
01:26:54.000So when somebody asks me, bops along, and writes a story that says something, the only thing the editor can do is ask one of the good reporters to do it.
01:27:01.000And what they want to do is figure out some way to get this out, you know, turf this, get this off their desk.
01:27:49.000Who decided one day after 9-11 that the rules don't apply.
01:27:52.000Which is, you know, and the thing that always interests me so much about Cheney, and I'm not telegraphing that much, is how easy it was for him to do it.
01:28:49.000Then they say, oh, we'll just put up naked body scanners on the highway.
01:28:52.000I mean, isn't the war on terror a fraud?
01:28:54.000Because all the funding in 15 years and we're still seeing terror attacks.
01:28:59.000Shouldn't we just preserve the Bill of Rights and Constitution and not be intimidated by terror?
01:29:04.000Well, you know, I don't necessarily agree with everything you're saying.
01:29:07.000Let me make it clear, because I have a different view on immigration.
01:29:10.000I think you can do things, rational things, to separate the good from the bad, although I admit there's always a risk with everything.
01:29:17.000But certainly, I'll tell you, we've walked away from a lot of bases.
01:29:21.000And you're right, one of the basic things we use, it makes it easy for the government And look, I know people that are very serious inside the government about the security risk and are scared.
01:29:31.000But the bottom line is, it's being used to pass laws that violate the Bill of Rights.
01:29:57.000I mean, I know you got to go, but I just want to, let me say bye to you during the break, but I tell you, thank you so much for your courage and you deserve it.
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01:33:27.000You know, I respect Michael Savage, and when I would listen to him 10, 12 years ago, I agree with about 95%.
01:33:35.000But when he would say there's a socialist plan to flood the West with radical Islamics and to create caliphates and take over, he was the first person I ever heard say that.
01:34:19.000So call him a prophet, a historian, a man before his time.
01:34:24.000He is a renaissance man, of course, best-selling author, launched much of the modern herbal supplement movement we know of in the 60s and 70s.
01:34:32.000If there's one guy, you could say Michael Savage under another nom de plume.
01:34:36.000And now he's with us for just 30 minutes, so I'm going to shut up and go to him.
01:34:39.000But I got to tell you, he's banned from entering England.
01:34:44.000I've been threatened that I'll be banned from entering Europe or England now if I criticize radical Islam.
01:34:49.000They're arresting Germans en masse and taking their kids from them if they criticize radical Islam.
01:34:54.000The women are being told, don't wear short skirts.
01:34:56.000They're canceling Christian holidays in public squares because the radical Islamics are offended.
01:35:52.000I want him to come back in the next month for a full hour.
01:35:55.000He's doing a book tour right now, so he's just got 25 minutes with us.
01:35:57.000But to say it's dire when the Daily Beast says we need to confiscate guns, that's a quote, but the black helicopter people may fight back.
01:36:06.000So, we're still crazy, even though we were right there coming for the guns, and we were right there going to get rid of the borders, and we were right there coming with forced inoculation, and we were right about world government with the Pope calling for it.
01:36:17.000Michael Savage, I'm going to try to shut up, but I tell you, this is an epic moment.
01:36:51.000If we don't see President Zero invoking Government Zero, I'd like to know what it's going to take for the average moron out there, idiot moron fools, who have sold the country away, running around in shorts with Halloween costumes, with their children on drugs and sugar.
01:37:06.000And they wonder why these SOBs with that monster tyrant leftist bastard in the White House.
01:37:14.000This guy is the smartest leftist in the history of the world.
01:37:18.000This slick BS artist, Barry from Honolulu, has done more harm to the world than Marx and Lenin put together.
01:37:27.000And he gets away with it for one reason, Alex.
01:40:17.000Australia had no Second Amendment, that's number one.
01:40:20.000And I will remind you and your audience, and this is the most important thing, Alex, I'm sorry for the day.
01:40:26.000I have a tape that I keep playing on my radio show from Elena Kagan.
01:40:31.000When she was appointed to the Supreme Court, when she went through the fake hearing, the kangaroo fake hearing of whether she should be appointed or not, she was asked about the Second Amendment.
01:41:42.000But Barry from Honolulu is such a slick con artist that he's so hoodwinked, the American drug addict, that they actually think it's time for socialism, gun seizure, no borders, and flood America with your Muslim brethren.
01:41:56.000The people are stupid and they're drugged, Alec!
01:41:59.000And they sensed they could get away with it.
01:42:28.000We see total criminal takeover, the death of freedom, the death of the West, and these crazy socialists that so hate freedom that they want to bring in the most radical Sunni Wahhabist to run around and rape people, and the Swiss and Dutch and all the rest of these police just let them go under orders.
01:42:46.000I mean, it's just crazy that we've gotten to this point and it's normal to get angry.
01:42:50.000We need to get people out of their coma.
01:43:53.000I'm walking through a park near the Embarcadero, and without being graphic, I'm an old boy scout, so I read footprints in the woods and I can read droppings in the woods.
01:44:03.000I was taught how to follow droppings of what kind of animal it is.
01:44:07.000Well, there was a dropping on the ground on the sidewalk that I said there were no bears in the city.
01:44:12.000How could the... This can't be a bear.
01:44:14.000Well, it's an admitted record problem in San Francisco, public defecation, and now in government buildings, even when they have bathrooms, they're so mentally ill that they just enjoy crapping in public.
01:44:26.000What does that say about a civilization, Alex?
01:44:29.000That people are allowed to crap without having their heads broken open by a cop.
01:44:33.000In my day, if a guy did that, a big Irish cop would smash him on the head with a nightstick, and drag him into the prison, and hose him down and throw him into a jail, and leave him there.
01:44:44.000Well, what kind of country is this that permits this to go on?
01:44:48.000Now, you ask yourself, if society is breaking down, and at the same time they're trying to break us down, What is it all about?
01:44:55.000So the public defecation could be stopped in one second, right?
01:45:08.000Dehumanize, desensitize, weaken, weaken, weaken, weaken, weaken, until eventually they have no resistance to whatever the evil criminal gangsters in the regime might do next.
01:45:23.000And at the want and at the wish to not offend people who think I'm peddling a book, I have to mention my great new book.
01:45:31.000Let's talk about the book, absolutely.
01:45:33.000Now you certainly don't need to make money, but people need to get this book and get it out to everybody.
01:45:38.000It's at michelsavage.com, amazon.com, all the big bookstores are carrying it.
01:45:45.000I've been told, I saw some news on this, and of course you were telling me that you certainly have intel on it, there are moves to really try to censor and block your books.
01:45:53.000Look, first of all the good news is despite the censoring, despite no appearance on Fox News ever, ever!
01:47:12.000They want to think they're pseudo-intellectuals.
01:47:14.000They want to sit back and read something that's utterly mindless.
01:47:18.000Well, I said this facetiously, and I certainly don't mean it, but I said I'm waiting for the next book in the series by him called Killing O'Reilly.
01:47:25.000Maybe he'll do us all a favor and end it already.
01:47:27.000He's got some franchise going there, doesn't he?
01:47:29.000But nevertheless, let's get back to serious stuff.
01:48:43.000They want to get rid of our culture so they can then download into us their sick, mentally ill culture.
01:48:49.000And you were one of the first to say this, but more and more it's clear.
01:48:52.000The top liberals are vicious mafia social engineers, as you've documented, but their minions really are mentally ill basket cases.
01:49:00.000I'm sure you saw the Atlantic Monthly article a few weeks ago about the coddled generation admitting, and these are leftists saying, that their college students have now become like these weird Maoist youth brigades that shout them down for just any language.
01:49:15.000They are complete The fascist basket cases that just flip out and now want to ban the word mother and father.
01:49:30.000I was in a Chinese restaurant last night in San Francisco.
01:49:34.000I love a dumpy restaurant that I go to.
01:49:36.000There was a kid, two of them, running around screaming at the top of the lungs, I mean screeching, with the food you couldn't even digest it.
01:49:43.000I wasn't going to say anything because, you know, what are you going to do?
01:51:14.000And you know, what's also nice about Pelosi is the fact that her brother-in-law got about a $1.2 billion loan from the government for a solar plant in the Nevada desert.
01:51:25.000And he did so well in producing about a megawatt of energy for it that they gave him another $800 million, according to what I've recently read.
01:51:32.000How come it's not in any of the newspapers?
01:51:34.000Have you ever seen corruption like this couldn't even go on today?
01:51:37.000Yeah, what's wrong with Harry Reid giving billions in contracts to his sons?
01:52:23.000He is the worst monster in the history of America.
01:52:25.000And if he uses an executive order to go around Congress on immigration, we need 10 million people demanding, immediately demanding, that an impeachment hearing be started, whether or not those cowardly, useless, gangster Republicans do it or not.
01:53:09.000But I expect they're going to pull out all the stops now to try to shut down our free speech, which they've said they'll do, to stop us resting control.
01:53:17.000You said yourself 10 minutes ago there's going to be a revolution in this country.
01:53:22.000So specifically, Michael Savage joining us right now, michaelsavage.com, the new book, Government Zero, No Borders, No Language, No Culture.
01:53:29.000In the five, six minutes we have left, what do you expect the empire to strike back with?
01:54:17.000You know that it's a conservative generation that's rebelling against the insane drug addicted liberal parents?
01:54:22.000If we had a charismatic young leader, if I were 40 right now and knew what I know now and had the reach I have now, I wouldn't run for office.
01:56:06.000So Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, and the corrupt government in San Francisco can get all the illegal aliens to put these corrupt, illegal, left-wing phenomenal bastards in power over and over again.
01:56:18.000We have people crapping in the street, you got dogs running wild in the street, you got girls being shot in the street, and these corrupt bastards!
01:58:15.000I meant government zero means not a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, but a government of itself, by itself, and for itself.
01:58:30.000A government is supposed to be representative, not a group, a cadre of a zero, zero, zero, one percent of trillionaires who put the stooges in and drop us dry.
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02:00:26.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:00:31.000I have never had a deer-in-the-headlights experience this crazy, because I'm not really a fan of, like, rock stars, movie stars, people like that.
02:00:37.000I like politics, and I'm sitting there during that 70-second break, and Matt Drudge rounds the corner over here, and it was just, like, total and complete deer-in-the-headlights, and I'm still double-taking here, and then he's hiding over there in the shadows right now.
02:01:47.000I didn't believe it only because it's like it was like such short notice it was like boom I remember years ago but anyways I'm not gonna get into it this is this is crazy all right well I'm not gonna be aggressive and turn the lights on over there and aim the document cam over there but Matt Grudge came in said hi to me thought it was a three-minute break and then went over there I'm definitely going to have to play a clip or something we have one of those special reports coming back from the next break Alright, this has now entered complete twilight zone.
02:02:15.000Hey, but we got a new article up on InfoWars.
02:02:18.000Obama arms ISIS militants, pushes gun control on very same day.
02:02:23.000Obama authorizes resupplying Syrian opposition on same day he demands gun control against American citizens.
02:02:30.000And of course I was covering this Breitbart article a lot that I missed.
02:04:04.000Since last Thursday, I've been being a good boy, and I've been being nice, but I tell you, I may have to... I don't have any... What do you call them?
02:04:26.000And then it's going to be even worse when they have, like, Some major establishment, White House-driven publication saying I made it all up.
02:04:34.000So we at least, well we can't get a photo for Twitter.
02:04:40.000DrudgeReport.com, you can read up there where this guy put stuff on his Facebook, the supposed shooter, about how he just had so many pills he was on, psychotropics, lithium, and other things, that he ended up just taking five at a time.
02:05:21.000Former US President Bill Clinton, whose past predatory behavior is once again in the spotlight after Hillary tried unsuccessfully to play the sexism card against Trump.
02:05:31.000For years, Bill Cosby continued raking in millions while the media covered up his dirt in order to preserve his legacy.
02:05:37.000But even after exposing years of predatory sexual behavior, Bill Clinton remains a highly revered member of the Democratic Party, pulling in tens of millions of dollars in speaking fees while Hillary was Secretary of State.
02:05:50.000For someone running a campaign on female empowerment, Hillary can't seem to shake accusations that she defamed, threatened, and attempted to personally destroy Bill's bimbos in order to silence them and protect their abuser and her rise to power.
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02:11:26.000We got a hot mic over there, he wants to stay literally in the shadows behind a curtain.
02:11:31.000But this is the king of being able to push a story out and make it the number one story in the world.
02:11:35.000They even admit that in the New York Times, that he has more readers on politics and news Then Facebook, the New York Times, and the Washington Post, LA Times put together.
02:11:45.000He's got some of our stories where the shooter himself said he was on a bunch of drugs.
02:11:51.000And that's the story they don't want out there.
02:11:53.000Or the story where CNN took a mixed racial Christian hater and turned him into a right-wing white supremacist and turned him white.
02:12:00.000They don't want people knowing that, but Matt Drudge and his great crew can link to alternative stories, foreign stories, mainstream stories, photos, mugshots, and really just focus on what Matt Drudge thinks is interesting, and the public tends to agree with him that what he focuses in on is really catching the zeitgeist or the pulse of the people.
02:12:20.000So he might have 50 links every day, where Facebook has 500 million, but he has more traffic.
02:12:26.000That is the true David versus Goliath story, and this is not scripted.
02:14:03.000I've learned how to take care of myself and detach from outcomes because otherwise You can't survive.
02:14:11.000And I don't know where you are on that topic.
02:14:13.000I just follow my instinct because they always tell us how to adapt to be successful, but really we're just adapting to their mindset to be their slaves.
02:16:01.000Well, I tell you, this is like the biggest Christmas present early ever because I just admire true independence.
02:16:06.000And I got to tell you, Matt, and you know this with your crew, and Congress knows this, we wouldn't have won some of these gun battles, some of these border battles, some of these energy battles.
02:16:16.000But we would have lost so many of them if it wasn't for the focal point.
02:16:20.000And even the White House and the Democrats admit, because I know you're saying you're nonpartisan, I mean, I would guess you're more of a libertarian.
02:16:25.000Correct me if I'm wrong, you're just a freedom guy.
02:16:39.000Well, they hate the fact That they can't control the agenda.
02:16:42.000The Pentagon has briefings with the head of PSYOPS, as you know, saying, we've got to stop drudge changing the subject and showing when we're lying.
02:16:50.000I mean, that's when you know, that's, that's crazy town.
02:17:54.000So this whole thing, this whole socials, these socials.
02:17:58.000You know, Beats 1 Music, which I'm obsessed with, which has been launched on Apple, which is probably one of the best things they've done since Steve Jobs died.
02:20:49.000I mean, because if we start creating our own maps, our own world, our own vision, then there's no way for these cultural tyrants to program us.
02:20:57.000And that's why they're pushing so hard to get more outrageous.
02:21:01.000I mean, is this the beginning of the end?
02:22:38.000Now we're doing that at PrisonPlanet.tv and the Nightly News and putting ourselves up on television to reach people because it's kind of like jacking into the Matrix going into their playground.
02:22:48.000I try to then claw them over here to see what we're trying to do, what you're trying to do, but I totally agree with you.
02:22:54.000The answer is for all of us to create our own systems, our own ideas, because vibrant, independent ideas will trump this corporate plastic borg, this brainwashing they're trying to push.
02:23:08.000I mean, banning father and mother, banning the word husband and wife.
02:23:11.000I mean, that's so cultic that if I'd have been told ten years ago they were going to ban words like that, I wouldn't have believed it.
02:23:20.000I mean, has the left, and of course the controlled right as well, but have they gone collectively insane on a control freak bent, or is there a strategy?
02:23:29.000I would also advise people to not waste their time on this.
02:23:33.000I had a Supreme Court Justice tell me to my face, it's over for me.
02:24:35.000You thought some of these other decisions were shocking.
02:24:37.000Wait until these copyright laws work their way up and the Supreme Court decides you cannot have a website with news headlines linking across the board.
02:25:38.000Right, ultimately it's boring and the kids are always off to something new, except for the something new is owned by the same freaking company or financed by the same banking system.
02:25:48.000So I'm here to say, and this is the reason why I came to see you Alex, you are one of the very few who are operating under this theory to be an independent American.
02:26:49.000Is the establishment, which we know is diverse, but there's different conglomerates, is it panicking?
02:26:54.000Is it trying to push everything through right now because it knows people are waking up?
02:26:58.000Or is it just completely arrogant and thinks it's invincible?
02:27:02.000It's trying to consolidate control, yes, and there is a sense of panic about it.
02:27:07.000You look at a Telemundo or a Univision, they're kind of panicked.
02:27:11.000You look at some of these interviews that are happening this election cycle where Trump comes along Says a few things, just a few things, and soars to the top of the list.
02:27:36.000That's the only thing that's going to work.
02:27:38.000So I am left with thinking there's not a lot of time To be your greatest self, especially online.
02:27:46.000Because I don't, if it continues to get consolidated to this degree, and then we're moving into the robots, which you're so profound on, and it's going to get really ugly, really fast.
02:27:57.000There's already automated news sites, Google News, hello anybody.
02:28:01.000They actually, the idiots reading that crap, think there is actually a human there.
02:28:21.000I live in a world that's free, colorful, vibrant, takes chances, bold, stands up to power.
02:28:27.000And that's where I've made my success.
02:28:30.000Well, very eloquently said, I mean really, if we don't affect the battle space, if we don't get involved in free speech now, that's all you the listeners, all the Drudge fans, fans of freedom, no matter what color you are, no matter what political band, we're going to lose everything.
02:28:45.000We know what totalitarian looks like, we know what oppression looks like, we know what the dumb culture of totalitarianism smells like.
02:29:06.000Because if they can say that you can't even put a link up to a news site...
02:29:09.000Then that ends free speech and basic communication.
02:29:12.000I mean, I know they got the Democrats out openly saying, we need to bring in the Fairness Doctrine to the Internet because of Matt Drudge, because you quote, affect elections.
02:29:20.000Well, you're an American citizen that pays taxes and you're allowed to be pro-gun.
02:29:24.000Well, but if they get enough sick people to elect it, the demographics will take care of themselves.
02:29:29.000We had a story this morning that they're finally releasing an artist in Cuba who painted Raul and Fidel as a pig, jailed without trial.
02:30:10.000Chris Coons, a Democrat from Delaware, went on the Morning Joe Show to call for a small surtax to pay for the war against the Islamic State.
02:30:18.000Coons said in addition to authorizing Obama's unconstitutional authorization for use of military force, Congress must levy a new tax on Americans to pay for military action against IS.
02:30:30.000has spent more than $5 billion on the war against IS since August 2014.
02:30:36.000The cost is expected to rise considerably Now that the Obama administration has said it will step up the campaign to wipe out the group.
02:30:43.000Despite spending billions, the air campaign has failed to weaken the Islamic State, according to intelligence officials.
02:30:49.000On Monday, Representative Peter King, a New York Republican who serves as the Chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security, said that after 16 months of airstrikes by the U.S., it's had really minimal impact on ISIS.
02:31:01.000You can find more reports on InfoWars.com.
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02:34:15.000This is particularly thought-provoking and will be a big newsmaker.
02:34:19.000They will attempt to control reality and say, how dare Matt Drudge hang out with that heretic Alex Jones?
02:34:25.000And we're always hearing over the last six, seven years that Matt Drudge is over, Matt Drudge doesn't exist.
02:34:30.000But then they have to admit Matt Drudge is bigger than ever.
02:34:32.000So this attempt to control reality or control who talks to who By these totalitarians that masquerade as liberals, I don't think is working.
02:34:41.000And now with Boehner being forced out, I think it shows the rumblings of the Tea Party beneath the surface.
02:34:46.000So, Matt, before you leave us, and I really appreciate your time... Oh, and by the way, the presidential candidates, that's exactly what you're saying, the rumblings.
02:34:55.000Look at anybody who has any form of success in the polls is because they rumble.
02:35:01.000Uh, where it's going to end up, I don't know.
02:35:05.000I'm very pessimistic on this race because I'm just not so sure it's not going to end up with the dreaded brain in the jar in the Oval Office, once known as Hillary Clinton, who is hypothyroid.
02:35:17.000Anybody who is 70 years old who's hypothyroid, you do not elect president.
02:35:21.000Ladies and gentlemen, you don't do it.
02:35:24.000Now they'll say, well, it has to be who her VP is, whether it's the Castro from San Antonio or the other Castro from San Antonio or the other Castro from San Antonio, whoever it's going to be.
02:35:34.000I'm just shaking now after seeing NBC giving her endless hours of airtime.
02:35:41.000Over the past 72 hours that Hillary's back, and she's back for real.
02:35:46.000Now what that means to you or me, what it means to me, I've got a long history with these people.
02:35:50.000They're ugly, they play dirty, they sued me for $30 million last time around, with the approval of the President, announced by the Press Secretary of the White House, a civil action.
02:36:01.000These people, and they didn't have the NSA then, they had Echelon, they had all these other things you were talking about even then.
02:38:24.000I'm really angry at the sick Americans.
02:38:26.000Matt Drudge, I used to listen to your radio show almost every Sunday, but I gotta tell ya, you are even more on fire than you were then.
02:38:33.000And I know you're smart, you know, not to be, you know, you know, too available because distance makes the heart grow fond.
02:38:39.000And I tell you, but it would be great if even once a week you did like an hour podcast or something, or maybe once a month with these thoughts.
02:38:47.000Because let me tell you, this is some really good radio and I'm enjoying it and I know the audience is.
02:38:52.000I mean, Matt Drudge is kind of co-hosting the Alex Jones Show right now.
02:39:13.000Paul Joseph Watson, I told him, watch out for this.
02:39:17.000You know, it's a larger topic, but at my height of media availability, I was doing the website The TV show and the radio show at the same time, as you are doing now.
02:39:55.000I said to Paul Joseph Watson when I saw him in London, which you just referred to a year ago, you're a romantic figure, Alex, in Americana.
02:40:02.000It's romantic what you do here every day.
02:42:10.000I just wish there was more media that was trailblazing and independent.
02:42:16.000And this to me is a big danger right now in this setup is you've got these corporations like the New York Times and the Amazon now with the Washington Post and Time Warner and all of them seem to be the same.
02:42:32.000And there's so much news in the course of the day.
02:42:35.000And the reason I think the Drudge Report is interesting every morning is it's not exactly the same as you would see elsewhere.
02:42:44.000And that's because I'm not involved with other people.
02:42:47.000I'm looking at the world through my eyes and that's what you're seeing with bravery and with the ability to do it because the ability to do it what you've created here with one listener one day that went to 10 listeners that went to 50 to now your millions Was organically grown, and that's kind of how Earth proceeds.
02:43:07.000And it usually takes time, you're absolutely right.
02:43:10.000Looking at the open announcements by the Pope for world government, carbon taxes, looking for Obama announcing similar things, they've gone from denying this planetary system is being set up to now admitting it.
02:43:22.000We've got all these key meetings, TPP being agreed on just a few days ago.
02:43:28.000How is that affecting the people that were brainwashed and told none of this was happening?
02:43:33.000How are they going to respond now when all of this starts coming to fruition?
02:43:38.000I've been traveling a lot and I'm seeing a lot of desperation everywhere.
02:44:19.000You know, they're fighting over pieces of artwork.
02:44:22.000It's gotten to the point where the have and the have-nots here is breaking.
02:44:27.000And it's the billionaires that are mainly funding the whole leftist redistribution movement because they end up getting the money in corporate welfare and insider deals.
02:44:46.000It shows Gore Vidal arguing saying the answer is... Oh, and by the way, why are we not allowed to have a Gore Vidal-William Buckley anymore in the media scene?
02:45:29.000This generation is frightened of ideas, or at least it's being suppressed.
02:45:34.000Let's throw in in the few minutes we have left.
02:45:36.000We're about to go to break, and I know you've given us more time than you even said you would.
02:45:39.000Matt Drudge is our guest, DrudgeReport.com, obviously in studio here in Austin, Texas, visiting a surprise visit, one of the best ever.
02:45:45.000That's better than the surprise birthday parties I've had.
02:45:49.000Shifting gears, I don't think that it's Putin's this great angel or this wonderful perfect person, but our foreign policy is so corrupt, so deceptive, it makes him look good, and nobody's going to back Al-Qaeda.
02:46:00.000I talked about this last Thursday and Friday, and I'll find the article and we'll put it in this video later and put it out as a report, but it was Reuters reporting that the White House is angry that these airstrikes by the Russians have hit the moderates, al-Nusra, which is Al-Qaeda in Syria.
02:46:18.000And then it just went on, and they're telling him to stop doing it, and he didn't hit ISIS.
02:46:24.000But then Putin pointed out, no, that's the bosses of ISIS, that's just their fighters.
02:46:31.000I can't even believe I'm reading Reuters, who has writers with a straight face, That we'll just sit there and write articles about how Al-Qaeda is moderate and not bad, and then we criticize Russia for bombing them when they're attacking Russian interest.
02:48:40.000Wow, well we're going to break here in about a minute and a half, and then I'm going to come back and play a special report.
02:48:44.000They're going to go into the fourth hour, being hosted by one of our co-hosts today.
02:48:47.000But Matt, in the two minutes we've got left, it's amazing to have you here.
02:48:51.000What else do you think is front and center in the universe?
02:48:53.000In the last two minutes here, what do you want to say to the audience and to the dinosaur media that is going to gleefully try to edit this and chop this up, and I guess use it for their funeral pyre?
02:49:14.000You are one of the... and people don't really talk about this.
02:49:16.000You are one of the first to stream 24 hours a day.
02:49:20.000And I think the reason I was drawn into InfoWars was because of the streaming.
02:49:26.000This is a profound break that you did to allow the audience to hear you at any time, to make it available at any time, from anywhere, looping, looping, looping, until the next broadcast.
02:49:47.000Because what you're seeing with the AM dial now, and I'm not besmirching any stations that are carrying this right now, but some of these ratings are frightening.
02:49:54.000Some of these ratings in these major cities are frightening.
02:49:56.000I'm talking about half the listeners, generally overall, for every talk host.
02:50:02.000Some of them are down a half, a half in one year.
02:50:07.000But you broke through with this 24-hour looping, always available, On my happiest nights, I'm sitting here and I'm listening to you from wherever I am in the world.
02:50:29.000I said, why don't we just send the stream out once, and then wait for a podcast to come up before they even called it podcast, which is an MP3.
02:50:39.000Yet again, another organically grown decision that changed the media landscape.
02:50:43.000Well sure, and I said, why not just have, I don't want to just have, because I was one of the first, people were doing this 20 years ago, Limbaugh was probably the first, with a little, you know, pod cam, took a photo every minute or something.
02:50:53.000I said, why don't we just put cameras in here so I can show people articles, show them photos, show them books, and even show them video clips, and then we'll start streaming it.
02:51:02.000And by the way, Limbaugh was genius for doing that because he bypassed Broadcast.
02:51:07.000He didn't have to hook up with the Fox or CNN to show him in real time.
02:51:25.000I would say the majority of your listeners are, have, and will discover you through the looping and the broadcast, because now we can drive around and listen to you without the streaming, even though it seems like the streaming is where things are going.
02:51:38.000I gotta say, when you broke the egg there, When you cracked the egg, that was a big one.
02:51:43.000That was a Stanley Kubrick moment of the bone going up.
02:51:48.000Well, I don't think it's as big as the bones you've been throwing up that turned into the spaceships, but I tell you, it's amazing to just have the diverse audience that tunes in to hear me babble, speak of the devil, like people like Stanley Kubrick's daughter and folks that have popped up too, and you're like, you check it out, and this is really Stanley Kubrick's daughter that helped make some of his films.
02:52:46.000Well, we're going to break in one minute.
02:52:48.000We're going to air John Bowne's report, come back, and who's hosting the fourth hour today?
02:52:53.000Thunderstruck that David Knight's got a bunch coming up, and obviously we need to get clips of this epic interview, play those, and put those out on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
02:53:03.000Matt, how fast do you think, here's what's crazy, five years ago I cared if mainstream media wrote stories against us, or I cared if I was on Nightline or something, you've been in more big stuff than I have.
02:53:12.000Now it doesn't even do anything when I'm on those shows.
02:53:15.000That's why I know that they don't mean anything, and so we should end with this.
02:53:19.000You were the guy Who tweeted, at least from what I saw, at Piers Morgan three years ago, or two and a half years ago, to say, have Alex Jones on, debate him.
02:53:29.000Yeah, behind the scenes, people don't know this about me, I'm a matchmaker behind the scenes.
02:53:34.000That I've had the ability to make some deals happen and do some things behind the scenes.
02:53:38.000Now, I've never met Piers Morgan, but I do believe that tweet that day did lead to that.
02:53:42.000Well, no, they told me in his office, they said, what do you think of Matt Drudge's idea, because they got my cell phone number and called me, and CNN had it, and I said... Which ended up being the most dramatic moment on CNN in a generation.
02:55:16.000That's all you just have to do because if you get well, if you get well, you're not that interested in what Anderson Cooper is saying about things.
02:56:31.000There's been another mass shooting in America.
02:56:35.000This time in a community college in Oregon.
02:56:40.000That means there are more American families, moms, dads, children, whose lives have been changed forever.
02:56:50.000That means there's another community stunned with grief.
02:56:54.000And communities across the country forced to relieve their own anguish and parents across the country who are scared because they know it might have been their families or their children.
02:57:10.000We've talked about this after Columbine and Blacksburg, after Tucson, after Newtown, after Aurora, after Charleston.
02:57:19.000It cannot be this easy for somebody who wants to inflict Harm on other people to get his or her hands on a gun.
02:57:29.000More average citizens President Obama may or may not personally offer his condolences to because he is too busy pleading his case to eliminate our constitutional Second Amendment right to protect ourselves and our communities.
02:57:42.000Pew Research's July 2014 poll, The Demographics and Politics of Gun Owning Households, found that about 6 in 10 gun household members 64% say they often feel proud to be an American.
02:57:54.000In contrast, about half, 51% of other adults say this.
02:57:58.000There exists a constitutional mindset and reason for owning a weapon in the United States.
02:58:04.000The United States ranks numero uno in gun ownership, dominating at 88.8% per 100 residents.
02:58:12.000According to 2014 numbers from the Small Arms Survey based in Geneva, Switzerland, A group staffed by experts in security studies, political science, law, international public policy, developmental studies, economics, conflict resolution, and sociology.
02:58:26.000These are the people pushing the international policies to agendize constitutional freedoms we as a nation require in order for our republic to operate.
02:58:36.000And the media spin on the coverage is always the same.
02:58:39.000Who cares who the shooter was in Oregon?
02:58:42.000Our immediate and only reality-based concern should be for the families and communities that need to be protected by the next incident, whether it's three months or three years from now.
02:58:52.000If we could just all pay attention to the numbers.
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03:01:19.000Uh, with their points, they were making these points during the break and I just basically came in and repeated their points and said, hey, you tell them what you said.
03:04:16.000I mean, think about how they are putting all these controls over money and capital control, saying, oh, we're using this to fight terrorism, to track the money through ISIS and whatnot, but they're the ones that created ISIS.
03:04:46.000And the end of that right there, typically as an online marketing technique to encourage engagement in a product or service.
03:04:53.000That's sucking you into a false reality.
03:04:55.000After Benny leaves, when Benny's on, I'm going to bring you up halfway in to give you a few minutes to really lay this out and get his take on it.
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03:08:41.000And please, don't take for granted the fact that you can still visit these websites.
03:08:45.000There are all sorts of moves to censor the internet.
03:08:49.000The FCC chair who sought to regulate drudge slams colleagues as dysfunctional.
03:08:55.000There are open moves to censor the internet.
03:08:59.000Again, Matt Drudge, when he visited us a few months ago, was told point-blank by a Supreme Court Justice, who he told me about privately but didn't say the name on air, that they've been told next year they're going to try to pass laws and regulations to censor the internet and free speech and call it political speech and try to tax it.
03:09:14.000The power to tax is the power to destroy.
03:09:17.000I want to get William Binney's take today, former technical leader for the intelligence with the National Security Agency, the developer of many of the systems we see in use today, According to major defense publications, probably one of the greatest code breakers ever, not just living.
03:09:33.000But I want to get his take on China just launched the most frightening game ever, and it will be mandatory.
03:09:40.000We've talked about this some, but now it's official.
03:09:42.000They're going to force everyone in the next four years in China to adopt it.
03:10:04.000Even if you don't believe in God, the devil, whatever, they're using it as an owner's manual.
03:10:09.000Where all your data goes in, and this is what Zuckerberg's been meeting with the head of the Chinese Censorship Bureau, who set up this infrastructure.
03:10:22.000We've got all these omnibus bills and surveillance bills being rammed through, always happening around the Christmas season when people are distracted.
03:10:31.000There's so much to discuss with William Binney.
03:10:33.000He's the former technical leader for intelligence for the NSA, before becoming a whistleblower in late 2001, privately to Congress.
03:10:41.000After more than 30 years with the agency, Binney has been described as one of the best analysts and codebreakers in NSA history.
03:10:47.000Binney continues to speak out about the NSA's data collection policies, and continues interviews in the media regarding his experiences.
03:10:53.000And they got the new big movie coming out, of course that Oliver Stone's putting out, that has a big character playing the part of William Binney in it.
03:11:02.000He's testified and affidavit that the NSA is a deliberate violation of the U.S.
03:11:06.000ExposedFacts.org has a lot of his writings.
03:11:12.000He, of course, has physically come and been interviewed by us here.
03:11:17.000And it's important to understand, he's made the statement, this is about total social control of the general public, not about protecting us from terrorists.
03:11:24.000Notice they let the Syrian refugees in, who are really mainly Sunni invaders, Homesteaders.
03:12:11.000Saudi Arabia gets to take over the Middle East with its fighters.
03:12:14.000They play along with their anti-American, get a few targets, wind up some of their operatives who don't know what they're doing to attack us.
03:12:23.000And then, Western governments can set up totalitarianism.
03:12:28.000And it came out a few months ago in NSA reports and it's also come out, the CIA has admitted it.
03:12:33.000ISIS puts out in their official magazine that we're not CIA, we're not working with the West.
03:12:38.000Don't listen to that, that's the one thing hurting their recruitment.
03:12:41.000Is that young Muslims can't be wound up by them to go up and shoot up and blow stuff up because they're understanding this is meant to cause a clash of civilizations and more invasions of the Middle East to knock out countries like Syria that aren't against the United States.
03:12:56.000Just like Saudi Arabia is involved in attacking us on 9-11, that's now on the 28 pages, we know that.
03:13:05.000So there's such an awakening, this is incredible.
03:13:07.000Now what I wanted to bring up to William Binning was a new book called Military to Military, the London Review of Books covered yesterday, as well as the New Yorker Magazine, where Cy Hirst, the two-time Pulitzer Prize winner, Breaks down what we already know from Colonel Schaefer and our other contacts that we broke three and a half, four years ago with Benghazi.
03:13:25.000I'm just setting the table here with William Benny and we'll do this for the rest of the hour.
03:13:31.000That our own military, from majors, captains, master sergeants, you name it, on up to two-star generals, like the former head of defense intelligence, Michael Flynn coming out and saying, we are ordered to create this ISIS group and to fund them.
03:13:50.000This is a willful plan and I don't know why they're doing it.
03:13:54.000Well, it's so they can take American freedoms and European freedoms away.
03:13:57.000But we have a lot of top generals now that have just quit or been fired going public.
03:14:02.000So there is what I would call a soft counter-coup.
03:14:05.000Not a coup by the military, which I don't support.
03:14:10.000But a literal soft coup and it's coming out in the news but then getting spun.
03:14:15.000So William Binning spent years testifying secretly to Congress behind closed doors, and he was rewarded with a SWAT team raid while he was in the shower.
03:14:23.000They waited until that to drag him around naked in his house.
03:14:51.000And he doesn't want to be called that.
03:14:53.000We need to recognize who the heroes are.
03:14:54.000It's not people putting basketballs in hoops or people hitting golf balls and hole-on-ones.
03:14:58.000It's people that stand up for what's right and really try to protect this country as well.
03:15:03.000Now, I'm done with my five-minute preface, Mr. Benny.
03:15:05.000I've sent a lot of stuff out there, the latest bills, the legislation, all of it.
03:15:10.000But just to go from 10 years ago, them denying there was any illegal NSA spying, and now admitting it all and trying to codify it in law and then admitting it's being used against Congress and political enemies.
03:15:20.000And now they want to merge with China with a system that socially tracks everything you do to not let you buy or sell or live a digital blackball.
03:15:47.000I mean, I guess the real point is that the intelligence agencies of the world are kind of banding together to do this kind of monitoring of everybody on the planet.
03:16:01.000And they're using different, they're lying to the public and giving them disinformation about the, for example, the latest lies are about the, they couldn't stop Paris or San Bernardino because they were encrypting.
03:16:13.000Well, when the evidence comes out, you find out that that's just another lie.
03:16:20.000Where they want people to believe it's one thing when in fact it's another.
03:16:24.000So their whole objective there is to get rid of encryption or be able to be able to read into any encryption on the network anywhere.
03:16:31.000And that's what they're trying to use to justify it.
03:16:34.000But again, the real problem is their bulk acquisition of data.
03:16:37.000That's always been the problem and it continues to be.
03:16:40.000Even internally in NSA and the various agencies, they're telling them We're overpowered by overload, and we're in analysis paralysis because we can't focus because of all the massive amounts of data.
03:16:52.000Which is what the dark actors really want.
03:16:54.000This is the fog for what I would liken to Spectre, these global corporations to just take over.
03:17:00.000And what it really does is it gives them all that power, having all that knowledge, then they now know how or who they have to deal with in their societies to be able to control the outcomes.
03:17:11.000That's really what I've been saying for several years is that their whole idea is population control and in order to do that you have to have knowledge about the population and that's what this is giving them.
03:17:24.000What an amazing statement by you the former technical director of the NSA that Global intelligence agencies, I guess other than Russia, are merging right now.
03:17:36.000And Zuckerberg and others admit we're going with the Chinese model because they can beta test illegal stuff on a mass scale.
03:17:42.000Can you speak directly to China's systems of control feeding all the data in and saying, if you say something bad about the party, we're going to phase it in where you can't buy or sell?
03:17:52.000I mean, this is the ultimate nightmare in my view.
03:17:55.000Yeah, I think it's taking off a bit on the model that's already been built between, for example, the industry and the U.S., the NSA, CIA, FBI, primarily.
03:18:06.000Those are the ones who are involved in setting it up internally in the U.S., and that's now the model they're going to try to export to China.
03:18:12.000I guess it sounds like they're going to be trying different things on top of that model to see if they can expand on it or improve it.
03:18:18.000Basically, a security clearance to live.
03:18:24.000A security clearance to even be able to function and have a job even in the private sector.
03:18:32.000Oh, it's well beyond Orwell's in 1984, too.
03:18:36.000I mean, it's just, it's just total, it's getting into not only the things that you're doing and who you're working with and who you do those things with, but also what you're thinking.
03:18:45.000And that's really, that's really where this is heading.
03:18:47.000And then openly blackmailing you to submit and do everything you're told, or they will lower your social score so you can't operate in society and can't travel.
03:18:57.000Yeah, and if they can't get to you, they'll get to somebody you care about, just like the KGB did.
03:19:04.000And they admit it's going to be a no-fly list just because your score is low.
03:19:07.000No judge, no jury, just a big algorithm, now you can't travel.
03:19:11.000And so many high-powered people I've talked to have been openly told now, this is coming here, you better get in line, and they're rolling over, Mr. Binney.
03:19:17.000Don't they know that will ensure the totalitarian takeover?
03:19:22.000Well, I think that that's basically what they're all aiming for.
03:19:25.000I mean, that's really the underlying effort that they're aiming at.
03:19:41.000What should people know with the highest level NSA whistleblower of all time here with us on air?
03:19:50.000The point is that everything coming out of the government is distorted in one form or another, not really coming and being honest with anybody in the public anymore.
03:20:01.000And you cannot, even the government, inside the government, they can't even trust what the intelligence agencies are telling them are wrong or what their law enforcement agencies are telling them anymore.
03:20:09.000They can't, they're distorting what's being presented in the courts of law.
03:20:13.000I mean, they're just destroying all our founding principles.
03:20:17.000And I've been basically on television saying that this is basically treason against the founding principles of this nation.
03:20:24.000And, you know, we as people have to stop and say, we're not going to tolerate this anymore.
03:20:30.000And if they can't, if they don't start subscribing to getting back to the principles of under the Constitution of personal rights by individuals, Then I think we need to fire everyone that's involved in that.
03:20:47.000And I would argue we need to fire everyone in D.C.
03:20:50.000right now, because they have no common sense about how things are proceeding.
03:20:54.000They don't seem to understand the consequences of the things they're doing.
03:20:57.000I mean, it just seems that they believe, for one reason or another, and I think it's because they're being bamboozled by the intelligence people, That they have to do these things or else the sky's gonna fall, right?
03:21:14.000When in fact that's just an outright lie and it's a distortion to try to manipulate people to do what they want and they're falling for it.
03:21:21.000All of our politicians are falling for it.
03:21:25.000You know, you were holding the rank of a general at the NSA.
03:21:29.000They knew to not come and directly try to buy you off or threaten you because they knew you had such integrity.
03:21:33.000That's why you were there from kind of an old guard system that was more based on that.
03:21:38.000With people in Congress and in the general public who are more modern and more decadent, they point blank either offer to buy them off or threaten them.
03:21:46.000I mean, I'm talking to more and more prominent people where I'm sure you saw last year when they legalized CIA propaganda domestically and quote the CIA and the Pentagon engaging in social operations domestically.
03:21:58.000They're actually sending CIA, you name it, people into businesses, into companies, even at the mid-level now.
03:22:07.000Either offering him stuff or threatening them to go along with his takeover, sir.
03:22:21.000It really didn't even fight the French.
03:22:23.000They fought the British Expeditionary Force, pushed them to Dunkirk.
03:22:26.000And I liken this to a infiltration operation where they've actually, this foreign globalist coup, this corporate coup, has already, I know I said I'm giving you the floor and I'm jumping in here, I want you to comment on this, has already come in and basically infiltrated and taken over.
03:22:41.000They just don't come and tell you something like that because they know how much integrity you have.
03:22:47.000Yeah, it's getting back to the idea of, you know, how many people can you manipulate and coerce or force in one form or another by blackmail or any other means to do the things that you want done?
03:23:01.000I mean, that's basically what's going on.
03:23:03.000I mean, it seemed to it just it just to me, I just can't envision my country ever going this route.
03:23:10.000I mean, I could never have thought that this would ever happen here.
03:23:14.000You know, you can't go around saying things like, this cannot happen here, like in the in the 30s, when when the Nazis took over, when the communists took over or whenever, you know, all these different power struggles have gone down through history.
03:24:03.000And sir, look at the fact that a lot of dictators were bad, but they just wanted to control everything.
03:24:08.000Some of them were egomaniacs and actually built big things, started universities, did some good.
03:24:13.000I mean, I'm not endorsing dictatorship, but this dictatorship of these social engineers is really anti-family, anti-human, anti-individual.
03:25:00.000Looking at these bills, looking at the legislation, looking at the things that are being done, what is your overall view of the announcements that are being made, the things that are being engaged in?
03:25:11.000Well, I mean, some of the things they're trying to pass, like the FISBUG putting it into this big funding bill and burying it in there and passing it through is just another way of corrupting the process and getting it through under basically the cover of a massive bill.
03:25:27.000Those are the kinds of things they're sneaking through, and they're doing it by the leadership of our Congress is doing.
03:25:33.000Republicans and Democrats are all supporting this.
03:26:28.000Well, clearly if they can get away with this, they can get away with anything.
03:26:30.000I've been talking to a lot of big Hollywood people, a lot of big government people, and they are just terrified.
03:26:36.000They say, oh, I thought you were crazy about the NSA 15 years ago, Alex, but now it's all admitted and I'm scared, I'm not going to speak out.
03:26:43.000So that chilling effect is kind of working.
03:26:45.000Don't these people understand giving into the fear is what ensures that the real next phase of oppression comes in?
03:26:54.000Yeah, that's the whole point that I was making, too, by saying if you acquiesce in a democracy, you'll lose it.
03:27:04.000That's what the people in democracy are supposed to do.
03:27:07.000You're supposed to stand up for your rights.
03:27:11.000I know you never talk to colleagues at the NSA anymore because they'll try to indict you.
03:27:15.000I know they've been harassing a lot of your other colleagues and folks, but Is there, I mean, isn't there a sense of shame?
03:27:23.000I mean, I know there is, because look at all the leaks that they're having to fix intelligence, that they're funding Al-Qaeda and ISIS.
03:27:30.000I mean, I am seeing a lot of good signs.
03:27:32.000What I mentioned earlier, and what Cy Hirst is reporting, that there's basically a soft counter-coup inside the military going on against a lot of this stuff.
03:27:43.000Yeah, I think, and I think you're right, because there's some other whistleblowers, like the four fellows that came out to blow the whistle on the droning, and basically the random slaughter going on there.
03:27:56.000Plus, I know Internally, well, they're still so afraid of going into a court of law to be constitutionally challenged that they, it tells you that they're afraid of sunshine, you know, shining the light on, it's like picking up a rock and watching the, I draw the analogy when you pick up a rock, you can see all the bugs and worms squirm to get out of the sunlight.
03:28:16.000Well, that's basically what our, what our political leaders are doing now.
03:28:22.000And I'm not differentiating between any of the parties.
03:28:28.000If anybody does this kind of support for things that are simply taking away our rights and assembling knowledge in the central government about the people in the country, I mean, that's fundamentally what our Constitution was supposed to stop, and it was designed that way.
03:28:45.000You know, the people were supposed to know what the government was doing, the government was not supposed to know what they were doing, unless they had probable cause.
03:28:54.000Instead they open the borders up, don't check anybody, but Stick a magnifying glass down our throats.
03:28:59.000I mean, it really is the breaking of the will of the American people.
03:29:04.000And I just can't believe how many men I know that are scared now to know we have a tyrannical government.
03:29:09.000You know, the whole thing's not tyrannical, though.
03:29:11.000There are a lot of good people in the government and in the corporations that are trying to stop this.
03:29:15.000We all have to speak out and get involved now, and we can turn the tide against this, and you're doing that.
03:29:22.000I think the more people who stand up against this, the better chance we have of stopping it here, initially, and then trying to initiate a stop around the world.
03:29:30.000Because we started this infection and it went through the British, now GCHQ, the Germans, the BND, and various other countries around the world.
03:29:37.000Let's talk about that national debate.
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03:33:38.000The Pentagon ran a major PSYOP operation.
03:33:46.000This summer, Jade Helm, Day one we said it wasn't a military takeover or gun confiscation.
03:33:55.000We said it was a conditioning operation for troops on the streets of America for civil unrest and also practice in the United States but also overseas using databases of information to roll in and out of cities undetected.
03:34:13.000And the commanding general over it gave a slideshow that we played parts of, admitting it's about mastering the human domain and controlling the population.
03:34:23.000I then ran into some Special Forces people.
03:34:27.000One of them very well known, but I'm not going to say his name.
03:34:31.000He'll probably end up being on the show.
03:34:34.000And they said, look, we all saw right through that and the psyop they ran saying that this is this weekend, saying that you said we were coming to take over.
03:34:41.000Believe me, Alex, no one in SF, Army, Marines, Navy, no one buys any of it.
03:34:51.000And we know that's why they're rolling out with autonomous drones, robots, all of it.
03:34:56.000So again, I'm not lionizing the military.
03:34:59.000I've always been critical of it being used and just worshipped mindlessly, you know, where the military is paying for them to, you know, have patriotic stuff at the Super Bowl.
03:35:07.000That's to sell the state as if it's the military with stolen glory.
03:35:13.000But they've got a big problem in that the boots on the ground, right up to the generals, they're trying to put all these weird pencil pushers in and all these weird politicos who've never even been involved in combat.
03:35:27.000They're putting, you know, guys that are political hacks in, especially under Obama.
03:35:33.000That really endangers us against foreign governments, the delusion of the Hillary Clinton, the Obamas, the neocons, none of them have been in the military, to go start these wars with Russia.
03:35:45.000I mean, it's not just what William Binney was about to get into, former technical director of the NSA, but the situation with All these different governments and all the different systems spying and there's too much data, so it makes everybody blind.
03:36:22.000And it's not even Machiavelli, because it doesn't bring down Iran, their regime, it actually makes them look moral!
03:36:30.000I mean, it's hubris, it's arrogance, but you could also look at it like they're globalists running this, they want to discredit America.
03:36:37.000William Binney, I want you to get back to the points you got cut off at the break on, but separately, Being at the highest levels of the NSA, I know there's a method to some of the madness, clearly they're running things, but also there's a lot of hubris and arrogance and it really is scary to see a bunch of chicken hawks playing God and Hillary saying she came to Libya, she saw Gaddafi died when the woman couldn't fight her way out of a wet paper bag.
03:37:02.000There's something obscene about a lazy politico shooting her mouth off about killing people.
03:37:09.000It just, it just, it just reeks of classic, classic flaming megalomania, sir.
03:37:16.000Yes, in fact, I've been amazed at the arrogance of the intelligence community, even to our own government.
03:37:22.000I mean, they just seem to have them all wrapped around their finger, much like J. Edgar Hoover did with most of the politicians in the House and Senate and the White House, back when he was the director of the FBI for, you know, 40 years or so.
03:37:39.000So, I mean, he had information and knowledge about them, and if they didn't know that he did, they believed he did.
03:37:49.000And this is getting very similar to that, but on a much larger scale.
03:37:54.000And I would point out that what's happening now is what we impeached and indicted Richard Nixon for, only he was only doing a minor, minuscule amount compared to what they're doing now.
03:38:08.000Don't the elites know that historically every time bringing in an oppression, a tyranny, a panopticon system like this will always end up destroying them?
03:38:18.000They're going to be the number one targets of what they've created.
03:38:24.000Won't they be the ones that fall into it historically?
03:38:27.000Well, I think if it gets really violent, like in World War II and so on, yes, they would be the ones to pay for it.
03:38:34.000But essentially, I think they're banking on the fact that this will be a long, drawn-out thing, and so they'll be able to pass it on to their successors, and that they won't have to pay anything directly for it.
03:38:45.000So in other words, they'll be able to get by through their lifetime without having suffered any consequences, but their successors will be the ones to suffer that.
03:38:54.000And by then, they believe technology will outrace that, and they'll be secure, or they'll dumb the public down enough to do it.
03:39:34.000William Binning, incredible to have you here.
03:39:36.000Other technical things people need to know about what's happening in the world right now, sir.
03:39:42.000Well, it's basically, I think the greatest threat is to allow companies to continue to manage and have this kind of information about people because then they have the ability, like we were talking about China, then they have the ability to go to China and see and then influence them in a way that would be very similar of accumulating information on individual citizens.
03:40:05.000I mean, in their countries, so the companies in their international companies, so this is getting spread internationally accelerated through that process.
03:40:14.000And I think that's probably one of the major things that we really should be dealing with here in this country and in Europe.
03:40:21.000I know the Europeans are trying to deal with it now.
03:40:24.000And I'm trying to give my two cents and contributions to them and hopefully they'll start a worldwide effort that might be able to turn this around.
03:40:36.000But I think holding companies responsible for the information they're holding is and in fact probably even denying them the legal right to hold that data might be the best option eventually.
03:40:48.000Well, if folks, and of course when I have you on, sir, you're so influential, you have so much courage.
03:40:54.000I don't normally gush like this with guests, unless they deserve it.
03:40:57.000You're out there doing so many interviews, have gone through so much to warn people.
03:41:02.000I try to bounce stuff off of you, obviously, to see if you think it's accurate from my perspective.
03:41:06.000And it is even more frightening that pretty much always you concur with my basic analysis of it, just as a layperson looking at the larger geopolitical and cultural ramifications.
03:41:17.000We know why they're trying to ban white Christmas and brown paper bags and saying if you serve Chinese food at a school lunch program it's racist.
03:41:25.000They're projecting all these things that don't exist that aren't really racist or discriminatory because we're all being discriminated against by this new technocratic system being set up.
03:41:35.000Where if you're not a good little New World Order person, you won't be able to have a job or live or get a hotel room or travel.
03:41:44.000This is classical discrimination and oppression.
03:41:47.000And so they want us to define all these phantom menaces now, while the greatest Acts of institutionalized tyranny the world's ever seen are being codified into a physical surveillance grid that, as you said, is beyond any fantastical dream of George Orwell.
03:42:06.000Yes, and I just liken this to the, you know, the case of the Wizard of Oz.
03:42:10.000This is a scenario they're painting is to basically pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, when in fact the man behind the curtain is them and they're doing some very bad things.
03:42:24.000Well I think it's very important for the establishment to realize, let me ask you this being up there at the highest levels, I know that the people at the mid-level and even high-level that are patriots, I mean I actually abashed the government a lot, they call me anti-government because I'm a libertarian, I'm not, but I've actually been impressed as I've gotten higher level, gotten to really know a lot of influential people across the board, that I find in government actually,
03:42:52.000More moral people, more awake people, more concerned people, especially when you get higher up, it's very strange, not at the very top, but that next to the top, they're the ones that are freaked out and want to do something.
03:43:03.000They got into this to really defend the country.
03:43:05.000I mean, somebody like you could have made, you know, $10 million a year with your science and mathematics, but you would, you know, take a pay cut and work at the NSA.
03:43:13.000So it's kind of a paradox that government's got so many problems, but then the corporations are just as bad, and then we tend to just either see it as good or bad.
03:43:22.000Are you for the government or against the government?
03:43:28.000Yeah, it's not black or white for sure, and it's a matter of whether or not you agree with the underlying principles of why we formed this nation and got rid of George III.
03:43:43.000And the point is, more and more, people over time, I guess, we're becoming so comfortable in our living standard that we're losing what it took to get here.
03:43:55.000We're failing to realize that in order to have all these freedoms, we had to work very hard and sacrifice a lot to get here.
03:44:03.000And that's what the people who fought World War II have told Tom Drake when he did interviews with them.
03:44:10.000They were saying things like, What did we fight for?
03:44:13.000You know, given the current circumstance of where we're headed.
03:44:17.000I mean, we didn't fight for an omnipresent government monitoring everything the people in the country are doing.
03:44:39.000That's really a disturbing statement from veterans of World War II.
03:44:48.000Well, my grandfather, he was deeply concerned.
03:44:53.000Because living here in Texas, they brought a lot of the rat line Nazis to Texas and New Mexico and in the areas where he worked, he had to run into them all the time.
03:45:01.000And he was always pretty calm when I was a little kid, staying there for a week or so in the summer, but he would rant about all the damn Nazis.
03:45:08.000And he had a lot of friends obviously killed in World War II and all the positions in government they were in.
03:45:13.000And that he was concerned that we were going to go that way.
03:45:15.000And, you know, my mom would say, oh, you're, you know, my dad's eccentric.
03:45:18.000And my dad would say, no, no, he's smart.
03:45:21.000But, you know, I just, I don't know what he would think saying this today, William Benning.
03:45:25.000Yeah, I understand what you're saying.
03:45:56.000Otherwise, you don't know what they would have done.
03:46:00.000When you looked at the federal SWAT team that came in on you, I know they probably had their faces covered, were they proud of themselves while they were throwing your house around and grabbing on you out of the shower?
03:46:10.000No, I think they were a bit, it seemed to me that most of them seemed a bit disturbed as to why they were there.
03:46:18.000That's good, that's what I've been finding.
03:46:20.000Yeah, and that's basically, most of them, the only one who wasn't there Who wasn't disturbed was the guy who signed the warrant, the senior special agent Paul Maric.
03:46:32.000He was already cleared into the program and he knew why he was there.
03:46:35.000He was there to get us, to get basically, keep the cover up going on the programs that they were running that we knew about and that we were complaining to Congress about.
03:46:46.000So he knew that, and the rest of them didn't, so... Yeah, how dare you go to Congress as you're supposed to by law when the law is being broken and secretly testify?
03:47:05.000Yes, that's, you know, that's hard for me to imagine people like that looking themselves in the mirror when they're shaving in the morning.
03:47:15.000I'm not going to play the clip because of time, but Apple's Tim Cook, their CEO, has come out on 60 Minutes and said they don't want to go along with these different bills, that it's an invasion of privacy.
03:47:25.000You notice, I don't want to glorify Steve Jobs, but he held off on letting them in to the Apple encryption, and one week after he died, Apple gave up the codes.
03:47:34.000Do you think that's lip service by Apple for customers, or do you think it's real?
03:47:39.000Well, I think for Steve Jobs it was probably real for sure.
03:47:44.000But for the rest of them, I think... See, the problem is they also get paid for all this information and this access, so... It adds to their bottom line with no additional effort, basically, on their part.
03:47:57.000Why put up NSA and FBI stingrays, tens of thousands of them, stealing all the cell phone data, when it already runs through all the hubs and they can just have it sorted there and then bulk batch it?
03:48:08.000Is it because they don't want a record that it was grabbed off the hubs?
03:48:38.000In fact, that's what I was told by some insiders that are pretty high up, is that they also might want to bring in an internet kill switch during a civil emergency or martial law, and they're putting in an alternate government internet right now.
03:48:51.000I think they've pretty much already had that all along.
03:49:30.000Let's talk to Brandon in FEMA Region 3.
03:49:34.000We've got about a minute and a half to break.
03:49:35.000Go ahead with your question, Brandon, for William Benny.
03:49:39.000Hey, I wanted to get Mr. Benny's opinion on the FBI, NSA, and even the CIA coming out and saying that they're tapping people's phones without warrants and that it's to protect us, but if But I actually know a cop who did it and had a warrant, and he was later indicted and thrown under the bus for it.
03:49:59.000But if the feds do it, it's perfectly okay.
03:50:02.000Can you maybe get into that and break down... Yeah, what about the hypocrisy of parallel construction and the rest of it, but if a local gets caught doing it, it's federal or state prison time?
03:50:12.000Well, you know, it's the arrogance of the intelligence.
03:50:17.000I mean, NSA, CIA, FBI are really at the core of this, just like they were at the core of the material that was used to impeach and indict Richard Nixon.
03:50:29.000These are the main players in the central collection and acquisition and use of material, like all the emails, phone calls, financial transactions, and so on, that are being collected primarily by NSA.
03:50:43.000They're becoming basically the central repository and processor for all this information.
03:50:48.000But they've all been in it together from the beginning.
03:50:51.000That goes back even to shortly after World War II when CIA and NSA were created.
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03:55:27.000What was the point you were making, sir?
03:55:29.000Well, it was just that they're so arrogant now about even violating all the fundamental principles of our country that they think they can get away with anything.
03:55:39.000So, I mean, they don't seem to be afraid of anything, when in fact I think that's when we need to start standing up and making it clear that we're going to come after them for what they're doing.
03:55:55.000Yes, amen to the theme of today's show, which is about moral courage, even or especially when it's scary and unpopular.
03:56:03.000So I want to ask a question about our necessary political strategy to restore and rejuvenate our inherent natural rights by asserting that the precursor to moral courage is intellectual courage or epistemological courage, and that the way that we're going to overcome the falsified left-right paradigm and overcome the perception managers is by going to the heart of what is actually being used against us, which is terrorism, state-sponsored terrorism.
03:56:33.000And to do, you know, we see the manifestation of this after September 11th rolling out in Paris and... Sure, let me get William Benny's take on that as we get to other callers, but it's a good point.
03:56:42.000They're opening the borders, they're letting terrorists in bare minimum, they are stand-downs on 9-11, they are not letting the NSA do its job against real terrorists, it's constitutionally protected.
03:56:52.000I mean, it's so obvious they're letting the terrorism take place to take our rights.
03:57:18.000So that means That more terrorist attack occurs, and every time one does, they go into their data and they find out, oh yeah, we knew about these fellows, but they didn't do anything before to stop it, you see.
03:57:29.000So they use now that terrorist attack to lobby for more money, more control, more information, more knowledge, for example.
03:57:37.000I would point to the French and their example, their experience too.
03:57:40.000I mean, the previous, earlier this year, the attack in Paris, That sponsored the acquisition of more money, more knowledge, more information, more analysts and so on for the French.
03:57:54.000But it didn't do them any good, even though they had this bulk acquisition system there again.
03:57:58.000Because again, their people could not focus.
03:58:00.000And then another Paris attack occurs, you know.
03:58:03.000And so now they're starting to do, this time it looks like they've changed their approach.
03:58:09.000And they're focusing on what they know about people and using that, and that's a focused, disciplined attack.