On today's show, Alex Jones and Tucker Barnard join host Alex Blumberg to discuss the latest in the Trump/Russia saga, including the latest revelation that the White House may have been wiretapped by the right-wing media outlet Infowars. They also discuss the ongoing investigation into whether or not the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government in order to defeat Hillary Clinton in 2016.
00:05:11.000info wars comes to mind where those are echo chambers for coming are you where that roger stone played a role in the trump campaign I'm not going to talk about any particular person here today, Mr. Schiff.
00:05:28.000This bizarre circular thing happening where the president cites a theory that he was wiretap, which developed on the kind of fringe right-wing media.
00:05:37.000And then after his tweet storm, Infowars then started saying, well, look, it was the New York Times that reported it citing our story, misreading our story.
00:05:45.000And now, a few weeks later, the White House and the president are citing Infowars.
00:05:51.000Are you aware that Mr. Stone also stated publicly that he was in direct communication with Julian Assange and WikiLeaks?
00:05:59.000We're going to start shutting Alex Jones and others down, and we're going to sue them, and we're going to have the Justice Department come after them.
00:06:05.000And get this, folks, they can shut us down.
00:06:18.000So would you say that Russia engaged in hybrid warfare in its effort to undermine our democratic process and engage in our electoral process?
00:06:30.000They engaged in a multifaceted campaign of active measures to undermine our democracy And hurt one of the candidates and hope to help one of the other candidates.
00:06:42.000I actually think that their engagement was an act of war.
00:06:50.000An attack doesn't just invite a counterattack, it demands one, else you reveal your fundamental weakness and get attacked again.
00:06:57.000Never in the history of our elections has a country attacked us the way that Russia has.
00:07:01.000I think before government officials change our foreign policy and declare war against a sovereign country, as you are attempting to do, we, citizens, have a right to know on what basis you're doing that.
00:07:12.000If there is objection, and I note the senator from Kentucky on the floor, I will say before I read this, if there is objection, you are achieving the objectives of Vladimir Putin.
00:07:24.000You're achieving the objectives of trying to dismember this small country that has already been the subject of attempted coup.
00:07:31.000If they object, they are now carrying out the desires and ambitions of Vladimir Putin, and I do not say that lightly.
00:08:16.000Our battleships weren't sunk and our towers didn't collapse a lot 2011. But make no mistake, 2016 is a year that we should mark on our calendars.
00:08:30.000The attack didn't end on Election Day.
00:08:32.000Donald John Trump, a man who, to borrow a phrase from another December long ago, will live in infamy.
00:08:39.000If we discover that Donald Trump or his advocates played a role in helping to devise strategy, if they're the ones who came up with crooked Hillary, if they're the ones who came up with she's ill, something's wrong with her energy, and the way that he basically described her in the campaign, I think that is something that would put the question squarely on the table whether or not he should be impeached.
00:09:07.000All right, and we are live today again, the third day in a row, going from 3 to 5-ish.
00:09:19.000This is Rob Dew reporting for Infowars.com.
00:09:26.000I'm also joined with Owen Schroer once again.
00:09:29.000And we're going to kind of follow up with what we were finishing talking about yesterday, which was the attacks in London, the attack that happened.
00:09:37.000There was an attack in Belgium this morning, or an attempted attack.
00:11:11.000What do we know so far about this incident today?
00:11:15.000Well, as you say, breaking news coming out of the Belgium city of Antwerp, where we understand at around 11 o'clock this morning local time, a man was spotted by the army.
00:11:25.000Okay, so some interesting things there.
00:11:27.000One, the car had fridge plates, which means it crossed the border.
00:11:31.000And this is why you have borders, is so you can know where these cars are coming from, border security, and go, hmm, do we want to let this guy through?
00:11:41.000Not that I'm a fan of, I guess, In the United States, we have it a little differently.
00:11:47.000We have border checkpoints 90 miles from the border, and you could actually go travel to places like South Padre Island here in Texas.
00:11:55.000You could actually go there, never go to Mexico, and you come back and have to go through a border checkpoint where they get in your face and ask you if you're an American citizen.
00:12:03.000And so I don't agree with that type of border security.
00:12:06.000But if you're going to put a border checkpoint on the border, which is where they should be, They should be on the border so you can see who's coming into your country and go, hey, we want to check this guy's...
00:12:15.000Let's run this guy's plate, see who he is.
00:12:17.000Yeah, you know, check a passport, see if he has a criminal history, see if he's maybe wanted...
00:12:23.000Those are the kind of things that you would expect to have to endure at the border.
00:12:26.000But this is why people hop the fence or find holes in the fence or walk through empty barriers.
00:12:34.000He was on a local AM station here in Austin this morning, and he was talking about how right now in Texas, they're focused on...
00:12:42.000He's not even necessarily like, build the wall, build the wall, but he's saying, look, we've got areas of the border that there's nothing.
00:12:48.000The people can just walk across the border.
00:12:50.000No security, no checkpoint, no nothing.
00:12:53.000He's like, why wouldn't I want to build a wall there?
00:12:55.000If that stops 100 people from coming over the border illegally and moving drugs or bringing crime here, why wouldn't I want to build the wall?
00:13:01.000So it's really just an archaic form of security.
00:13:05.000I mean, it's like the most simpleton form of security, if you have a nation, is having a border and having some form of a checkpoint on that border to make sure that people coming in aren't violent terrorists.
00:13:38.000Yeah, and like I said, when Abbott was asked about the details, he kind of, at least from my perspective, it seemed like he didn't want people pushing like, oh, you know, how big is it going to be?
00:14:23.000And so there's ways to do it without building a wall in some spots because I know I don't think it's physically effective to build a wall on some of the spots in Texas and in Arizona.
00:14:34.000Well, and I know we're getting a little sidetracked from the...
00:14:59.000They broke the law and they just released them.
00:15:00.000That was the most egregious example of a government or a law enforcement agency releasing illegal citizens back into the public really without any screening process at all and without any legality either.
00:15:15.000So that's another reason why he wants to build the wall.
00:15:17.000But you talk about border security with this guy who goes into Belgium and he's trying to run over people with the car like we saw yesterday in London.
00:15:26.000I don't know if we have all the details, and maybe you could actually fill me in on this, but do we know how they knew that he was going to do this?
00:15:33.000Were they just tracking him when he crossed the border?
00:15:35.000Well, it said they saw him running lights, and so I think that's what tipped him off.
00:15:39.000He'd probably weave again and out of traffic, and obviously the authorities and the police in Europe are on high alert for copycat crimes, because that's usually what happens right after some sort of attack.
00:15:51.000You'll get another copycat crime, and they were able to stop this one.
00:16:30.000I don't know why they have to go through this practice, but it's just incredible to think, to me, just how they were able to stop this guy.
00:16:37.000Okay, so he's running lights, driving suspiciously.
00:16:41.000I guess they surround him with police vehicles or law enforcement vehicles, but...
00:16:46.000Based on the graph, you know, this guy was already driving for some period of time, apparently recklessly.
00:17:50.000But we've got guys everywhere who are buying into the ideology.
00:17:53.000And how do they buy into that ideology?
00:17:57.000And I think one of the reasons that helps Create a fertile ground of people who can be susceptible to suggestions of, hey, strap on these explosives and go do this.
00:18:10.000Hey, take your car and run these people over.
00:18:12.000Hey, go get a truck and run through a Christmas crowd.
00:18:15.000I think one of these things, and there's plenty, and I didn't really, I heard about this last night.
00:18:24.000It was Gavin McGinnis on Joe Rogan's show, the latest time he was on.
00:18:29.000And he was talking about Muslims and the inbreeding that goes on in Muslim, majority Muslim countries, especially in the Middle East, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan.
00:19:41.000That's why I need Zimmerman in my ear.
00:19:43.000Accounted for nearly a third of abnormalities in a study of more than 11,300 babies.
00:19:54.000They said the risk of birth defects among children of blood relatives remains small at 6%.
00:19:58.000And they say 1.7 babies in England and Wales are born with birth defects, heart problems, and Down syndrome.
00:20:06.000But in Bradford, it was double that, 3%.
00:20:09.000Of the 5,127 babies of Pakistani origin, 37 had married parents who were first cousins, compared to less than 1% of married couples nationally.
00:20:22.000And so this is to say that inbreeding doesn't happen everywhere.
00:20:58.000Last year, the BIB project found cousins getting married was becoming more common among British-born Pakistanis in Bradford than a generation ago.
00:21:31.000It's not compatible with the Western world at this point.
00:21:34.000If they want to come to the Western world, if you want to be part of this culture that we've created, then you're going to have to make some changes, essentially is what she's saying.
00:21:41.000A come-to-Jesus moment, or a come-to-Muhammad moment, whatever...
00:21:57.000One of Britain's most eminent scientists has warned the level of inbreeding among nations Muslims is endangering the health of future generations.
00:22:05.000The geneticist says it was common in the Islamic world for men to marry nieces and cousins.
00:22:09.000He said Bradford has a particular problem and warned about the health effects.
00:22:13.000And apparently people freaked out on him.
00:22:47.000Research in Bradford has found babies born to Pakistani women are twice as likely to die in their first years as babies born to white mothers.
00:22:54.000And he said genetic problems linked to inbreeding identified as a significant cause.
00:22:58.000But he also talked about the royalty inbreeding.
00:23:01.000He explained Prince Charles and Diana could both be traced back to Edward I, with Prince Charles able to do it through 3,000 lines, overlapping connections between people in his family tree, and his wife been able to do it with 4,000 lines, making the Prince of Wales, made the Princess of Wales a stronger aristocratic heritage than her husband.
00:23:20.000Darwin first started talking about this.
00:23:24.000When he was studying these because they were finding the royals were inbred.
00:23:28.000And there's an interesting article that I picked up called the Habsburg jaw and other royal inbreeding deformities.
00:23:36.000So we're not just saying it's Muslims that are inbreeding and that's...
00:24:11.000They said they believe the Hasford jaw originated in a family of Polish royals, and the first person to have been known was Maximilian I, the Holy Roman Emperor who ruled from 1486 to 1519. He had a pronounced underbite, so it's like an underbite jaw.
00:24:27.000Mandibular protagonism is what they call it.
00:24:54.000If you want to debate, I'm all for it.
00:24:57.000If you want to give me a different direction, then we need to figure something out where you could be on the air, because I don't want to have to repeat everything you say every time.
00:25:43.000So she goes on to have some kids, and the first two boys end up being healthy, but the third, a girl born with spinal muscular atrophy, a crippling and usually fatal disease.
00:25:58.000Oh, and then they went on to have another fourth, sixth, seventh children all born with the same disorder.
00:26:05.000So basically what you have here and the story goes on and it's basically widespread inbreeding going on in Saudi Arabia with these arranged marriages and to just put it Pretty bluntly, you increase the risk, you increase health risks, multiple health risks, when you inbreed.
00:26:26.000And the science is pretty much plain and simple, pretty much proven time and time again with this, especially when you read stories like this.
00:26:37.000And it doesn't happen all the time in every instance, but it increases your chances, and the statistics are showing that this is happening.
00:26:44.000So now you begin to get into the topic of discussion here.
00:26:49.000Well, how can this lead to, and boom, there it is.
00:28:23.000And that article that y'all brought up, it's an interesting story.
00:28:28.000And this was pilots who were training other pilots.
00:28:32.000And this is from a journal in Australia.
00:28:36.000During the pilot transition program with the KV-107 and the C-130 with Lockheed, we found that most Saudi pilot trainees had very limited night vision, even on the brightest moonlit nights.
00:28:48.000Their training retention rate was minimal, including maintenance personnel.
00:28:53.000They had to be constantly reminded of things that they were told of them the day before.
00:28:57.000An American, British, or Western instructor is burned out pretty quickly.
00:29:00.000It took Muslim C-130 pilots years before they could fly in the dark safely, and then they would be reluctant to leave the lights of the city.
00:29:08.000Ask any Marine, Air Force, or Army guy who's been trying to train Iraqis, especially Afghans.
00:29:13.000Islam is not only a religion, it's a way of life all the way around.
00:29:16.000Yet another set of revealing facts about Muslim beliefs and traditions is 1400 years of inbreeding.
00:29:24.000Now, and this is back to the story I pulled up earlier in the New York Times.
00:29:28.000Health officials and genetic researchers say there is no way to stop inbreeding in this deeply conservative Muslim society where marrying within the family is a tradition that goes back hundreds of years.
00:29:41.000Think about how far they've come in 15 years.
00:29:43.000Today, most unions still arranged by parents marrying into wealth and influence often means marrying a relative.
00:29:50.000And this has been going on for hundreds of years.
00:29:53.000And It creates a ripe environment for not just physical disabilities, but as you just pointed out, Rob, low IQs, mental disabilities, which then creates an environment for radicalization.
00:30:10.000If you could look up stuff on Richard Reid, the shoe bomber.
00:30:15.000Lots of people talked about him being a mental deficient.
00:30:18.000The guys who bombed, the guys who actually carried out the bombing of the World Trade Center, they didn't even park the van next to the giant column they were supposed to because these guys weren't too bright.
00:30:35.000Joe just pointed out that it looks like Richard Reid has a Habsburg jaw, which is interesting.
00:30:39.000Keep in mind, Richard Reid couldn't figure out how to light the fuse.
00:30:42.000Well, he was given an intentionally defective bomb, which that's another person we can get to, as well as Abdul Muttalib, who was the guy who went on the plane with the underwear bomb.
00:30:52.000The bombs they were given could not be lit with a fuse, which is why we think these were carried out and these were intelligence operations.
00:31:01.000And look, it's kind of like what Alex talks about, or what we've even experienced, Rob.
00:31:05.000When we go out, and I'm not trying to go down this road, just trying to make a point here.
00:31:08.000When we go out to Trump protests, some of the people we see protesting, they're lifeless.
00:31:12.000I mean, you can look right into their eyes and just be like...
00:31:16.000Man, you either got a bad batch of vaccines or you've just fluoridated yourself or brainwashed yourself to complete nothing.
00:31:23.000I'm sorry, but I can just look at Richard Reid and just say, I mean, that guy's just not fully there.
00:31:39.000You're being attacked on all segments of your life.
00:31:43.000Which is driving your mental state down, driving your physical state down, and leaving you open to more suggestibility.
00:31:52.000So I'm going to put out the call-in number, and I'd like to hear from some Muslims out there who are listening.
00:31:57.000Whether you think we're full of it, or if you want to bring in your side of the story, do you know people that are, I guess, inbred marrying their cousin, or parents that were cousins?
00:32:09.000I'd love to hear about it because this is something I didn't really know about until last night and I started reading articles about it and looking at scientific papers and what other scientists had said.
00:32:20.000And I'm just reporting what they're saying.
00:32:23.000But is this maybe a problem with what's...
00:32:27.000Maybe this is part of the problem in these Muslim countries.
00:32:31.000And if they start with that and go, hey, we're not going to allow cousins to marry each other, And two or three generations, you're going to see a big turnaround.
00:32:38.000Well, that sounds racist for you to ask somebody not to marry their cousin.
00:33:19.000And hearing what they did to this girl and what this is being done to thousands and millions of young girls across the world who believe in this.
00:33:32.000I don't quite put it up on the same level.
00:33:34.000Circumcision, I've seen three circumcisions in my life, and no, it doesn't look like it's fun, but it's definitely not.
00:34:24.000You know, depleted uranium is going to cause just as many mental defects and birth defects, but then you're compounding it with inbreeding.
00:34:35.000Maybe, you know, I've never heard of any investigation into any of these terrorists to see if they were inbred, to see where they came from, their parents, how inbred they might be.
00:34:43.000Maybe that's an investigation that needs to go on in the future.
00:34:46.000But, Rob, when you asked me, before we go to Ali's video who talks about what we're talking about, You asked me, you said, hey, pull up some information on the underwear bomber, the shoe bomber, the World Trade Center bombers.
00:34:57.000And this was stuff that I didn't really research.
00:35:12.000Every single one of them is radicalized by Islam.
00:35:15.000And every single one of them, if they aren't from the Middle East, traveled to the Middle East, either Pakistan, somewhere in the Middle East, at one point in their lives before they committed the act of terror.
00:35:25.000So there are patterns here that we can prove that go beyond the inbreeding, which is something that I can't prove based on a guy's name.
00:35:33.000I guess I can go pay for the family...
00:35:41.000We can look at real issues here, which is they're being radicalized and the nations they travel to before they create these acts of terror.
00:36:57.000In short, I have seen Islam from the inside and the outside.
00:37:02.000I believe that a reform of Islam is necessary and possible, and only Muslims can make that reform a reality.
00:37:10.000But we in the West cannot remain on the sidelines as though the outcome of this struggle has nothing to do with us.
00:37:18.000If the jihadists win and the hope for a reformed Islam dies, the rest of the world will pay a terrible price.
00:37:26.000The terror attacks in New York, London, Madrid, Paris, and many other places are only a preview for what's to come.
00:37:34.000For this reason, I believe that it's foolish to insist, as Western leaders habitually do, that the violent acts committed in the name of Islam can somehow be divorced from the religion itself.
00:37:46.000For more than a decade, my message has been simple.
00:38:00.000There are many millions of peaceful Muslims in the world.
00:38:04.000What I do say is that the call to violence and the justification for it are explicitly stated in the sacred texts of Islam.
00:38:12.000Moreover, this theologically sanctioned violence is there to be activated by any number of offences, including but not limited to adultery, blasphemy, homosexuality and apostasy, that is to leave Islam.
00:38:27.000Those who tolerate this intolerance do so at their peril.
00:38:32.000As someone who has known what it is to live without freedom, I watch in amazement as those who call themselves liberals and progressives, people who claim to believe so fervently in individual liberty and minority rights, make common cause with the forces in the world that manifestly pose the greatest threat to that very freedom and those very minorities.
00:38:54.000In 2014, I was invited to accept an honorary degree from Brandeis University for the work I have done on behalf of women's rights in the Muslim world.
00:39:03.000That invitation was withdrawn after professors and students protested my criticism of Islam.
00:39:09.000My subsequent disinvitation, as it came to be called, was no favor to Muslims.
00:39:34.000Instead of contorting Western intellectual traditions so as not to offend our Muslim fellow citizens, we need to defend both those traditions and the Muslim dissidents who take great risks to promote them.
00:39:48.000We should support these brave men and women in every way possible.
00:39:52.000Imagine a platform for Muslim dissidents that communicated their message through YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and Instagram.
00:40:00.000These are the Muslims we should be supporting for our sake as much as for the sake of Islam.
00:40:07.000In the Cold War, the West celebrated dissidents such as Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Andrei Sakharov, and Vaclav Havel, who had the courage to challenge the Soviet system from within.
00:40:19.000Today, there are many dissidents who challenge Islam, but the West either ignores them or dismisses them as not representative.
00:40:30.000Reformers such as Taufik Hamid, Asra Nomani, Nzuhi, Jasar, and many others must be supported and protected.
00:40:38.000They should be as well known as Solzhenitsyn, Sakharov, and Havelwar in the 1980s.
00:40:43.000If we do in fact support political, social, and religious freedom, then we cannot in good conscience give Islam a free pass on the grounds of multicultural sensitivity.
00:40:54.000We need to say to Muslims living in the West, if you want to live in our societies to share in the material benefits, then you need to accept that our freedoms are not optional.
00:41:05.000Islam is at a crossroads of reformation or self-destruction.
00:41:37.000If you want to enjoy the material benefits of the Western culture, whether you agree with them, if you don't agree with them, don't move here.
00:41:43.000But if you agree with them and want to come here for a better life, Then you have to, you know, you don't go to someone else's house and say, this is my house, I'm going to make the rules.
00:41:51.000Yeah, there's certain cultures in Asia where you take your shoes off at the door.
00:43:21.000And it says here, killing is forbidden in Islam.
00:43:24.000Well, Khalid, first question is, what do you make of what happened yesterday in London?
00:43:29.000Well, I think that's actually a cultural and a personal problem, not an Islamic problem.
00:43:36.000I actually think that people have no idea what they're talking about when they're saying that all of these problems are stemming from Islam, like women's rights and This anger that people have towards the Western world.
00:43:49.000First of all, in Islam it tells us that if you kill an innocent person, you're going to hell.
00:43:54.000It says that if you kill yourself, you're going to hell.
00:43:57.000What scripture are you citing, may I ask?
00:44:36.000So if somebody's fighting you in a war zone, You have the full right to defend yourself.
00:44:41.000But in our religion, in Sharia Allah, which is the law of Islam, it also says that if you're in somebody else's country, you respect the law of the land.
00:44:53.000You're not supposed to come in and try to press your views on these people.
00:45:23.000Do you think it's an issue of people coming from not as industrious countries, not as developed countries, coming to an area where there's more wealth than they've probably seen in their lifetime and not being able to adjust to it?
00:45:37.000Yeah, I think it's a lot of that, plus a lot of the media has Muslims looking really badly.
00:45:47.000So that infuriates them most likely and has them start plotting these crazy...
00:46:02.000I think that you make a fair point in that anybody who's going to go out and run people over with a car or blow himself and others up is not mentally deranged.
00:47:01.000Like, they're not saying it to like...
00:47:04.000They're not going to initiate, oh, Allahu Akbar, and then I'm going to kill these people.
00:47:07.000They're saying it because that's something, they're in their last minutes of life.
00:47:11.000They're these people, these crazy people, I want to say too, because nobody normal in Islam is going to go just murder random people and say Allahu Akbar.
00:47:20.000So these crazy people are basically taking something personal and making it look like it has something to do with our religion.
00:47:29.000Well, let me ask you this, because we were talking about this inbreeding.
00:47:32.000Do you think this might be part of the problem that these guys are being inbred, so they're already at a lower playing field than everybody else, and they're susceptible to these types of, hey, if you go out and do this, you're going to go to heaven.
00:48:30.000Dude, I honestly think that they don't have, it has nothing to do with it.
00:48:33.000I think it's, if you back up people into a corner and they clearly see everybody around them being blown up and killed, they're going to be angry at somebody.
00:48:42.000And then eventually bad things will happen.
00:48:45.000I don't think it has anything to do with religion.
00:48:47.000If you went into Rwanda and started killing people, People are going to start retaliating and doing things that they wouldn't normally do.
00:49:12.000Stand with Muslims Day, I think it's what it's called in Austin, and I spoke to people with you that are just hard-working Americans like everybody else.
00:49:18.000They said the same thing to me, that their understanding of the Quran is that the law of the land goes above the law of the text.
00:49:29.000Now, the points that you just made, I think, are also fair.
00:49:32.000These are points that Infowars has been pointing out for a long time.
00:49:34.000The West, working with Europe, specifically Britain, has started proxy wars in the Middle East, has used people like, you know, Osama Bin Laden to sort of propagate these proxy wars, and then they turn him around and turn him into the bad guy after September 11th.
00:49:53.000But let me ask you about this, because What you have is people citing the Koran, citing texts from the Koran, saying, look, this is what's motivating these people.
00:50:02.000And, you know, you could essentially do relatively the same thing with the Bible, say, hey, look, here's what it says in the Bible.
00:50:08.000The difference is, like I said, you don't have Christians going out and killing people on the streets and saying Allahu Akbar.
00:50:13.000So let me just ask you this, though, because here's some of the terminology that I was asking about earlier.
00:51:26.000And the West might even be funding those leaders.
00:51:29.000People like John McCain working with those leaders, and when you have people that are easily susceptible to propaganda, now all of a sudden they have their ISIS army.
00:51:39.000Well, you guys can look up the article.
00:51:40.000It was like a Muslim cleric dined at the Pentagon right after 9-11.
00:51:45.000That was Anwar al-Awlaki, who basically they were able to, Major Hassan, the shoe bomber, the underwear bomber, all had contact with this guy.
00:51:56.000And then when they were done using him, they blew him up with a drone, killed him and his son.
00:52:29.000And I was thinking, I was like, okay, if in the Quran it says that if you kill an innocent person, you'll go to hell.
00:52:34.000And out here, I see these different posts about these terrorist attacks being false flags and people being hired and people being, you know...
00:52:44.000It makes me automatically think that there's a plot literally against all Muslims and that they're trying to make us out to look like these people, even though given these things are going on in our Muslim countries, people are blowing themselves up and all these bad things, but it's just over-exacerbated, you know?
00:53:02.000Well, what do you know about the Shiites and the Sunnis, the civil war between them?
00:53:08.000Why can't these two groups get along in terms of...
00:53:13.000You know, you don't have groups in a neighborhood somewhere here in America.
00:53:18.000Sometimes you have gangs getting together and fighting.
00:53:20.000But these are two sects of Islam that seem to want to fight with each other.
00:54:07.000You could probably say that you see this happening.
00:54:10.000They tried to self-guilt white people for wars in the Middle East, for slavery.
00:54:17.000When I say, hey, yeah, we had a corrupt government that started proxy wars in the Middle East, and then they intervened in wars that they should have never done, and now they're trying to bring it here to the United States.
00:54:26.000So they try to use that and spin it and put it on white people and try to create this white guilt.
00:54:32.000So my response is, hey, that's BS, I call it all out.
00:54:37.000It sounds to me like you're sitting here saying you think that this is all being propagated to demonize people of your faith, Muslim people, and you're saying when you see terrorist attacks or when you see an event like the one in London yesterday, You don't necessarily look inherently and say, wow, I feel bad that my religion is causing people to behave like this.
00:55:02.000You have a response that is, wow, I can't believe the establishment powers that be want to demonize my religion this way.
00:55:41.000Because if they were really, if they did it in the name of Islam, I would expect them to go into our book, bring out a scripture that said it was okay for them to do this and go act upon it.
00:55:50.000But if they can't bring that up, and every scripture tells them that this thing is wrong and that that's going to End them up in hell, then that makes no sense to me.
00:56:03.000So when they're basically saying, referencing to what you said earlier, if they're saying Allahu Akbar or anything like that, it's not necessarily a religious cry, but it's like me yelling up to someone saying, F you, F you, F you!
00:56:15.000Kind of just a passionate thing that we scream out just in a moment of, you know, animosity.
00:56:39.000Let me just say one more thing, because, you know, like I said, I've met plenty of Muslim people like you, and most people that live in America and are Muslims are probably like you.
00:56:49.000And we can read this quote in a second.
00:56:54.000If you recognize that there is a problem, and maybe this is a fair analogy, maybe it's not, but white people helped eliminate the KKK. The KKK could not have been stopped without the help of white people.
00:57:08.000And if radical Islam is truly a problem, we're not going to be able to stop it without the help of Muslim people.
00:58:13.000A question every Muslim should have is, Is my religion actually violent or what is going on, you know?
00:58:20.000And I had to look it up on what is going on and I realized, now there's apostasy, you guys talked about this, in Islam there's something called taqfir, okay?
00:58:29.000Taqfir is if there's an apostate, then all the, I mean, I'll just say taqfir is you declare an apostate and you say you can kill them.
00:58:42.000They're no longer innocent, essentially.
00:58:45.000Because what the last caller said was if you kill an innocent person, the Quran says if you kill an innocent person, you're going to go to hell.
01:00:38.000That's right after the First World War, but that's still not the Saudis.
01:00:44.000I mean, that's some background information.
01:00:47.000I'm not sure how important that is today, but the fact of the matter is, you know...
01:00:51.000Well, let's think about genetics here for a second, though, because we're talking about, okay, a civil war to decide who is the true leader of Islam or what sect is going to be Islam.
01:01:07.000So you've got these civil wars going on for hundreds and hundreds of years.
01:01:12.000Eventually, that becomes ingrained in the youth's DNA. When you have a child that gets born into a war-torn country, that gets an AK handed to them by the time they're five, that gets taught how to fight for their life, how to hunker in case they ever get bombed, and then you have that generation after generation, you basically have...
01:01:33.000People that are just gonna be born violent, born with these self-protection tendencies, and I think they're more capable of being indoctrinated into radical Islam.
01:01:48.000So now you have to say, This goes back to border security.
01:01:52.000Do we really want to bring loads of people in by the tens of thousands from these war-torn countries that now have it built into their genetics to be at war all the time for religion?
01:02:04.000I'm just pointing that out because it came to my head.
01:04:00.000You know, my religion, we're ignorant as fuck, man.
01:04:02.000Well, and whoever's in charge of whatever area is going to be in charge of whether it is or isn't, whether there is a court or there isn't a court.
01:07:01.000And, like, I told you about the whole, you know, the whole liberal, like...
01:07:06.000Who are we to say who is or isn't a Muslim, you know?
01:07:09.000Maybe they're really bad Muslims, they're misunderstood, they're brainwashed, they're this and that.
01:07:14.000To say they're not Muslim, you know, that's hypocrisy.
01:07:18.000But really, you know, Saudi Arabia, like all terrorism, not all terrorism, Taliban is not Wahhabism, but Al-Qaeda, ISIS, al-Nusra, they're all pointing, they're all still killing each other, you know?
01:07:32.000They're all Wahhabi Salafis, but they still kill each other because they're doing, they're declaring the Kriya on each other.
01:09:53.000So basically, instead of the Bible teaching martyrdom, saying don't rebuke your faith for your life, you're saying that this version of the Quran says you can refute Muslim to save your life.
01:11:42.000Well, what is your perspective on what's going on, especially with these terror attacks?
01:11:46.000And if you want to jump in on the inbreeding, you know, with lowering IQ, does that lead to, I guess, easier pickings?
01:11:55.000You know, you can find people easier who want to go blow people up and run them over with cars.
01:12:00.000Well, I agree with that, but I also think that not only the lower IQ, but the lack of, I guess, well, they are raised to believe that if you don't believe in what they believe in and if you don't follow their traditions, then you should not be allowed to live.
01:12:25.000So that's part of how they see the world, because if you go in there into any Muslim country, you don't see any women driving.
01:12:34.000You don't see any of the women's faces, but that's their tradition.
01:12:40.000And if they don't follow those traditions, those women are going to get killed.
01:12:44.000And sometimes I've seen in the newspapers and online teenagers killed by their fathers because they don't want to wear hijab.
01:12:55.000Or because they don't want to follow their traditions or because they don't want to convert to Islam or any kind of those religions.
01:13:02.000So they believe that if you don't follow what they want you to do, even if you're their son or their cousin or their brother or whatever, then you should not be allowed to live.
01:13:15.000So it's like if you're born, you have to follow these steps that have been passed before us.
01:13:22.000And if you don't, then we're going to kill you.
01:13:26.000So you're saying it's a combination of nature and nurture?
01:13:29.000Yeah, I mean, if you look back, I mean, most of the Muslim attacks that are not shown by the media happen in the Middle East.
01:13:41.000If you look back, and I was trying to find more information about this, this year there have been 11 attacks that have been that happened and it was caused by a Muslim person 11 attacks and 10 of them have been in the Middle East and 11 counting the one yesterday in London in 2016 46 attacks and 10 of them were out of the Middle East so 36 of those happened in the Middle
01:14:11.000East and in 2015 112 attacks and 17 of those were outside of the Middle East so they they attack their own people and Because whether they don't believe in the same thing or they feel that those people are pointless and they should not be taught the Muslim religion and that they should not be allowed to live.
01:14:37.000I mean, they believe that if you are not one of them or you don't want to be one of them, then you should be dead.
01:14:46.000Have you been to a Middle Eastern country or a majority Muslim country?
01:14:51.000Well if you go there of course I'm not going to tell you none of that if you go as a tourist because they just want you to be able to go out and then and I mean just like visit but of course I mean yeah I've been to Yemen and I've been there and well to the of course where you're able to go and then be a tourist like a normal person and not be shot or anything yeah I've been there and it's nice of course that area but The older sides of the country
01:15:21.000are people being killed and all that kind of stuff.
01:15:26.000And one of the biggest sponsors of terror, especially in Yemen, is Saudi Arabia.
01:15:33.000Yeah, their Air Force is doing most of the bombings.
01:15:37.000Hey, George, thanks for calling and for your perspective.
01:15:39.000We do want to just keep the phone lines open for Muslims to get their take on what we've been talking about.
01:15:45.000We're going to wrap this up here in a little bit.
01:15:49.000But, you know, you look at the shoe bomber, you look at the underwear bomber, you look at the guys who drove, who were like the patsies involved in the World Trade Center, the first bombing.
01:15:59.000These guys were all mental deficients.
01:16:01.000You look at a lot of these FBI patsies, and so this isn't just a Muslim problem.
01:16:05.000You look at a lot of these guys who are duped by informants into planning bombings.
01:16:11.000I specifically remember these guys who were going to bomb a bridge in Ohio.
01:16:15.000And you look at the pictures of these guys, and they look like idiots.
01:16:19.000I mean, and they lived in a place, and it was their landlord who was the FBI informant.
01:16:23.000Who knows what he was an informant for?
01:16:25.000Probably got busted for something else.
01:16:27.000And he's sitting here going, come on, guys.
01:18:39.000So when I talked to him about this, and I think that some of the callers who called in would feel the same way, you make all these accusations saying, well, radical Islam is this, Islam is this, the Koran says this, and the peaceful Muslims, they kind of get taken aback.
01:18:55.000They're like, that has nothing to do with my life.
01:18:56.000That has nothing to do with the practice of my religion.
01:18:59.000You're just being fed misinfo by the news media.
01:19:04.000I'm definitely being fed misinfo by the news media.
01:19:06.000However, You cannot deny that there is an element of Islam that is radicalized.
01:19:13.000You have leaders that cite the Quran and they say the...
01:19:18.000Infidels in the West, the infidels in Europe, are waging war on our way of life.
01:19:24.000They're bombing our country, this, that, and the other thing.
01:19:25.000They point the blame at America, at Europe, and you know what?
01:19:28.000Some of the blame might be fair to point in our direction, but at the same time, they are radicalizing the youth, and they are raising these ISIS armies to be violent against the infidels, which is Europe and the West.
01:19:45.000To the fair-minded Muslims out there who have assimilated to Western culture, who don't think that that's true, they would look at you and they would say the exact same thing.
01:19:56.000They would call you an infidel, they would call you a heretic, and they would call you an apostate because you don't follow their radical idealism.
01:21:23.000But the Muslims that I found in Germany, the new ones that they came to Germany at the beginning, when I met them, they weren't radicalized.
01:21:32.000But as soon as they get picked up by some Muslims that have been established there and they go to the mosque, all of a sudden they change their attitude towards us.
01:21:47.000Do you think they're literally breeding people?
01:21:49.000And from what you're saying is that Germany and other places like this, because I've talked to Germans who are like, look, they want to build mosques everywhere because Saudi Arabia is bringing in their money and building giant mosques, and they've never seen this type of development going on before, and they don't have to follow the rules?
01:22:07.000I mean, in the starting of the early 90s, and that's when we left, Because we started seeing all this starting up even in Syria, even though the government was, you know, really strict on this kind of stuff.
01:22:19.000But they can't really change much in Syria because most of the people are Sunnis.
01:22:25.000And if the money is coming from Saudi Arabia to build mosques, the government can't say no to those mosques.
01:22:32.000And if they get all these imams going to Saudi Arabia and teach them all this radicalized...
01:22:40.000Well, it teaches them the true Islam, let's say, because that's really what it is, and how to preach.
01:22:46.000And so we found the same thing happening in Germany.
01:22:50.000Then I moved to Canada, and just when I just, you know, it wasn't too long after I settled in Canada, I went for a bike ride in a park, and I saw a bus, a school bus, and I saw kids coming out of it, and they just, you know, going on their What should I say?
01:23:12.000Just going and saying Khomeini, Khomeini, which is the Iranian thing.
01:23:19.000But that was a school bus from an Islamic school.
01:24:05.000How could the German government allow that to happen and just say, hey, you know, not that you can or can't build your mosque, but that you can preach this type of radicalized Islam, and that's okay.
01:24:15.000Yeah, but you can't, you know, they banned the Nazism, right?
01:25:06.000There's a lot of Muslims who are ignorant of their religion and they think that it's a peaceful religion because they learned it traditionally, right?
01:25:19.000And I would advise any Muslim who's listening right now and who knows Arabic or doesn't know Arabic, if I may plug this guy in, his name is Brother Rashid.
01:25:31.000And he is an ex-Muslim from Morocco, and he is the son of an Imam.
01:25:36.000And he was trying to prove Islam is the true religion and Christianity is not.
01:25:43.000And he started reading the Bible, and guess what?
01:26:24.000Well, you know, and one thing to me, as we're rolling this footage, actually, guys, if you keep rolling that footage, okay, you think about ISIS, you think about all the footage that we've seen.
01:26:33.000We rolled this footage, we've been rolling it of the Muslims in England that are chanting in the streets and kind of going crazy.
01:26:47.000They behave like anybody else in the West would.
01:26:49.000They just want life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
01:26:51.000But when I look at stuff like this that we're showing, when I look at the videos of the Muslims in Europe chanting in the streets, I'm sorry, it looks like gang behavior to me.
01:27:04.000These people rolling up in the streets, guns drawn, flags waving, chanting, that's gang-type behavior.
01:27:11.000And you can say, oh, well, what's the difference when the U.S. Army rolls up into a country?
01:27:16.000When a U.S. Army rolls up into a country, they represent the United States of America.
01:27:19.000That's a country, that's a sovereign nation, that people can be held responsible.
01:27:34.000So you can't necessarily hold any one sovereign nation accountable and you can't hold the entire religion accountable because obviously most people in the religion are actually peaceful people.
01:27:45.000So when I look at these footage and I look at ISIS and I look at people who go out and try to force their way, like these people marching in the streets dressed in black.
01:28:53.000Who wants them to be established, to be radicalized, and actually the wars in the Middle East are meant to bring those radicals to the West.
01:29:21.000And we are the ones who are being, you know, targeted in all these attacks.
01:29:27.000Well, and think about it like this, too.
01:29:29.000You know, I used to play, growing up in St. Louis, I used to play baseball and basketball with the boys club.
01:29:36.000And there were some friends of mine there that we lost to gangs.
01:29:40.000Literally, they would get into their teenage years and we would never see them again.
01:29:44.000They'd be gone and they'd be running with gangs.
01:29:46.000And so what you have is you have individuals who grow up impoverished or in a lifestyle that they feel trapped and they can't get out of.
01:29:55.000And I'm just talking about, let's talk about, you know, ghettos in the USA. So you have youth that get indoctrinated into the gang culture because that's all they can find.
01:30:04.000They don't have a father that cares for them.
01:30:06.000They don't have a mother that's there for them.
01:30:08.000They have a gang leader that says that he'll be there for them and that they'll provide for him.
01:30:16.000I kind of see the same thing happening in these Muslim countries where if you're in a war-torn area and maybe your father is dead or maybe your father is gone or you don't have a father or mother and you're just kind of lost out there and you don't have anything, you cling on to the radical Islamic sect because there are leaders that are preaching propaganda at you.
01:30:36.000There are leaders who said that they'll be there for you and saying all of these lies just to get you indoctrinated into their gang.
01:31:17.000That's why people go and kill themselves.
01:31:19.000You think anybody will go and kill himself and commit suicide just, you know, somebody told him?
01:31:24.000So, no, they would show him his own book and tell him, this is what it says, this is what you have to do, and this is what you get.
01:31:31.000You know, and we had an absolutely, I had an absolutely crazy story come across my desk, and I couldn't prove this, and that's why I never reported on it.
01:31:41.000But there's a guy who is a former gang member in Chicago who claims that Government agencies literally drop weapons into the middle of these ghettos to spread firearms into the ghettos of Chicago.
01:31:57.000Again, this is a former gang member in Chicago.
01:32:21.000So we've caught the CIA running guns red-handed.
01:32:24.000Now, we also had the Obama administration, I think it was $500 million he wanted to inject into Syria to give to quote-unquote moderate rebels.
01:32:36.000I wonder how many $500 million grants have been given to quote unquote moderate rebels.
01:32:42.000I wonder how many gun running, gun drop operations have gone down in the ghettos.
01:32:49.000And if you are a globalist New World Order operative and you want to start a war between the West and Islam or anything of that nature, this is the formula.
01:33:31.000Yeah, well, Muhammad was, you know, just by word of mouth and where I grew up, we know that Muhammad was taught by a monk, a monk in a monastery.
01:33:49.000And Khadija, or what was his first wife, was one of the nuns.
01:33:59.000There's Jesuits involved in this and it has nothing to do with Christianity.
01:34:08.000Those were secret societies that were created to protect the so-called Holy Roman Empire, which was hijacking Christianity to bring about one world order, really.
01:34:30.000They know that there is something like this coming.
01:34:32.000and it has it in there but lots of truth copied from the Bible just so that to give them half truth so that they you know they believe it right that's how you can you know manage to let people believe what you're saying and so this is the truth about the truth about how Islam was created it was created to actually kill the Christians who did not bow down to the Holy Roman Empire or the Vatican That's
01:35:04.000If you track it, you will see who they killed.
01:35:08.000And the true Christians who were spread all over Middle East, Syria, the Armenians, the Spanish, they were all against and did not bow down to the Vatican, did not want to be part of the Vatican.
01:35:26.000Later, of course, with the force of the Islamic invasion and all the other stuff, they submitted.
01:35:33.000Well, all that would make sense when you look at what the Pope is saying, how Islam and Christianity need to merge together now, now that they've done their job at, I guess, pushing Christians out.
01:36:29.000This is from 2014. So it's, uh, Berlin thinks that making a religious history as Muslim, Jews, and Christianity join hands to build a place where they can all worship.
01:36:38.000The house of one is, as is being called, will be a synagogue, a church, and a mosque under one roof.
01:38:35.000I talked to this woman and it's something that seriously haunts her.
01:38:38.000And to be honest with you, I'll just say this.
01:38:41.000She's been taking it very personally when Paul Joseph Watson and Stefan Malyu used the phrase autistic screeching to describe the Trump protesters.
01:38:50.000So she's kind of been a little bitter towards InfoWars lately.
01:38:58.000I'm not trying to connect autism with terrorism in any way.
01:39:02.000What I'm trying to say is the inbreeding that goes on, and it's bona fide in studies, and they have percentages of the numbers of people that are born like this.
01:39:47.000And we're sourcing stories from conservative and liberal outlets that covered this long before this was so PC that you couldn't even talk about it.
01:39:57.000And as you mentioned earlier, okay, so let's say inbreeding makes the risk 6% that your child is going to be born with X, Y, or Z. But if two inbred parents then have another inbred, it just compounds that risk and you get some of the numbers that you just referenced.
01:40:11.000And just to be on record, My philosophical belief in the Constitution is that basically Because of the freedom of religion, the government can't touch you, okay?
01:40:21.000I can declare I'm any religion, and because of my religion, you can't stick a needle in me, no matter what the religion is.
01:40:26.000So they're basically, when they try to bully you, they're really just trying to bully you out of your rights.
01:40:31.000Well, and I think there's two states that don't allow any exemptions, California being one of them, and I think West Virginia might be the other, where they want everybody immunized.
01:40:40.000Yeah, you don't have a constitutional exemption.
01:41:07.000When hearing about the massive inbreeding in Islamic world, I thought, what a perfect way to restrengthen the gene pool, LOL. By massive immigration to the West, it fits the teachings of Quran by taking women of infidels and strengthening the Muslim population, which can in turn help dominate the West.
01:41:22.000One thing I can say truthfully is that they will never dominate us or our culture because leftist policy will backfire through poor ideological governance and slash uprisings.
01:41:33.000I guess that's where we're going to go.
01:41:36.000You see people getting mad about what's going on with the borders being left open, the sieve being turned on, taking in massive populations of people who aren't ready for a Western society.
01:41:48.000And I want to play that video that you guys have from the It was the sweet, the man's girlfriend, ex-girlfriend gets molested by refugees.
01:41:57.000And this was on Milo's website or Milo's Facebook that we found this.
01:42:03.000This is a man's, you know, not eyewitness account, but what he heard from his girlfriend after she was molested and raped in broad daylight in a town square.
01:43:22.000They are tied behind their backs because our politicians have destroyed the police force.
01:43:32.000And that's real anger from a real person living in a real country who is being, they're forcing them to take refugees.
01:43:40.000And this goes back to, I guess, the 60s and 70s where the Scandinavian countries are like, look, we're going to be the leaders of the world and being tolerant.
01:43:49.000We're going to show everybody how tolerant we can be.
01:43:51.000And you can see after several generations, that's starting to backfire.
01:45:15.000We won't get off track on the Donald Trump time traveling thing.
01:45:17.000But back on the Sweden political correctness thing, I've talked to people in Sweden.
01:45:22.000I'm actually very easy to reach on Twitter.
01:45:24.000So I love it when people try to reach out to me.
01:45:26.000It helps me get a better view of the world when I can talk to these people.
01:45:29.000And they're saying now, and I have to deal with this when I talk to journalists in the United States that think I'm crazy, because they look at reports that come out of Sweden that are basically trying to debunk anything that we say about it.
01:47:27.000But let's go to that Nigel Farage clip.
01:47:31.000Well, I remember about five years ago, I said that we had a fifth column living inside our own nation.
01:47:37.000It was the first time in our history that we had people living amongst us that wanted to destroy our values and actually even wanted to kill us.
01:47:44.000And I remember the absolute wave of condemnation that I came in for.
01:47:49.000What I've seen today are a lot of people, the great and the good of this country, the people that did irresponsibly open the doors, the people that refused to accept That within some parts of Islam, there was a growing problem.
01:48:03.000And they're all saying how awful and appalling it is.
01:48:05.000And I do actually think that the moment has come for us to actually point the blame.
01:48:10.000You know, what these politicians have done in the space of just 15 years may well affect the way we live in this country for the next hundred years.
01:48:18.000Is there still a sanction against those who say what you just said in public in Great Britain?
01:48:23.000I know that's been true for a long time.
01:48:24.000If you say that out loud, somehow you're the bad guy.
01:48:29.000Well, I was the other week doing a radio show here, and I talked about Sweden.
01:48:34.000I talked about Malmo being the rape capital of Europe.
01:48:38.000And I'm currently under investigation by Ofcom, who are the regulator here for all broadcast media.
01:48:45.000Now, I don't anticipate receiving a heavy fine, but it just goes to show, doesn't it, that actually we do not quite enjoy free speech in this country in the way in which we should.
01:48:55.000Well, this was when Tony Blair got elected back in 1997. His aim was to create a genuinely multicultural society.
01:49:03.000In fact, he said he wanted to rub the noses of the right in diversity.
01:49:08.000Peter Mandelson, one of the architects of New Labour, said we sent out search parties.
01:49:13.000All over the world to find as many immigrants as we possibly could.
01:49:18.000And, you know, look, I'm not against immigration.
01:49:19.000I want us to have sensible, managed, balanced immigration.
01:49:23.000But for goodness sake, you have to vet people.
01:49:27.000And, you know, today, when Donald Trump, and surely this is the big takeout, is that when Donald Trump tries to make America safer, when Donald Trump tries to make sure that these scenes that we've had in Paris and Brussels and Berlin and now London aren't repeated in America, We get people on Fifth Avenue and behind me in Westminster out on the streets protesting.
01:49:48.000It seems to me that our political leaders really ought to start saying sorry.
01:49:55.000I just love Tucker Carlson's face the whole time.
01:50:36.000She comes back 10 years later and she's appalled at what she sees and I believe this was produced by the BBC or this was aired by the BBC originally and we were using some of this as B-roll and you could see some of the people pointing at her, yelling at her.
01:50:51.000So You need to hear the guys that were watching this go.
01:51:04.000I'm Stacey Dooley, and this is Luton, where I was born.
01:51:08.000I went to school here, I even worked at the airport, and then I moved away.
01:51:14.000But now I'm coming home to find out if it's true that Muslim extremists are taking over my town.
01:51:22.000It didn't take long to witness first-hand the extremism I'd been hearing about.
01:51:27.000"No! Fuck you!" "Oh my God!" "U.K. go to hell!" "U.K. go to hell!" "British police go to hell!" "British police go to hell!" "Fuck you!" "Oh my God!" "Manyalah in the land!" "Nayga hainjata!" "Muhambah!" I wasn't sure what they were marching for, but tensions were running high.
01:54:31.000If it's not Islamic, then the law of the land and those who make it can go to hell, quite honestly, because Allah said in the Quran, in chapter 33, verse 1, he said, O Prophet, fear Allah, and do not obey the disbelievers and the hypocrites.
01:54:42.000Is David Cameron a Muslim or a disbeliever?
01:55:00.000Yes, and you will be fuel for the hellfire as well.
01:55:02.000But the fact is that you have an opportunity to change.
01:55:04.000That hurts me to think that you think that of me because you don't really know me and you think I'm destined to hell because I'm not Muslim.
01:55:10.000You said you're not a Muslim, so that's enough for me to know that you're not Muslim.
01:55:14.000If you're not Muslim, you're destined for the hellfire, unless you change.
01:55:16.000I find it sad that anyone would preach such a damning message.
01:55:22.000To sum up in words, even to tell you how I'm feeling right now, I feel completely gutted and gutted that This is happening.
01:57:03.000Those who practice Islam are innocent.
01:57:05.000So now, you know, you would have to have the battle of semantics, I would imagine, with somebody who's knowledgeable in the Quran, the history of the Quran, or Muslims, which I know we have more...
01:57:14.000We have the Nordic Muslim on right now.
01:57:16.000But I just wanted to say this, because I don't know, probably not the exact same feeling that she had...
01:57:23.000When that young British girl went back to her hometown in Britain only to see that it had changed so much.
01:57:45.000When I was on the streets of St. Louis, my hometown where I grew up with people of every race, color, and creed and I was being called a racist That's how I felt, man.
01:57:58.000That was like a gut punch to me, to just have these people pointing at me, calling me racist.
01:58:28.000I just went to hear Donald Trump speak and immediately, because I'm a white male and I'm sitting there talking to people about why I like Trump, people are saying racist, racist, racist.
01:58:36.000It's like, wait, this is my hometown of St. Louis.
02:00:21.000So the first thing is I agree with you, Owen, about the distinction between the two forms of Islam, even though there's really only one true Islam, which is defined by the Qur'an alone, because we believe that that's the book God sent.
02:00:32.000And I reject Hadith and Sharia law because they're filled with nonsense.
02:00:36.000They were invented hundreds of years after Muhammad left by men.
02:00:40.000They insult Muhammad, contradict the Quran, and there's lots of other arguments against them, like how Bukhari compiled them based on his own opinion and all this nonsense.
02:00:48.000And so if you really want to know the truth about Islam, then you have to ask God for guidance and forgiveness and read an accurate translation that's not distorted by those sects, like a monotheist translation.
02:00:58.000And then on the other hand, we have the Islam that everyone sees that you're talking about, which I also condemn, which is all the distortions in the sects, and it's based off Tradition and culture nonsense, like Sharia law, it's all invented by men, and they follow all this crap, and they go on the streets, and they say, death to America, and stuff like that, which I reject.
02:01:18.000And even we're against them, we speak out against them.
02:01:20.000And I'm not Sunni nor Shia, but I've even had Sunnis call me a kafir.
02:01:25.000Like, I had a discussion at a mosque, and he called me a kafir, and told me never to come back, which also contradicts what they're on, because we're not supposed to call other people Non-believers, you know, unless they admit it themselves, because we don't know.
02:01:36.000And that's also why Chowdhury is wrong, too, when he says, oh, you're automatically going to hell.
02:01:39.000And now, is that why, let me jump in real quick, is that why when we see these killings in, like, Africa, where they're going around saying, hey, can you recite a Koran verse, and if you can, then we're not going to kill you, and that's a way of saying, I'm a Muslim.
02:01:52.000Is that the same type of thing, is what you're just saying?
02:01:56.000Like, you have to say, I'm a Muslim or I'm not a Muslim, and then it kind of opens the door?
02:02:02.000You mean whether or not we should kill them?
02:02:03.000Well, I'm not saying in general whether you're saying that, but when we see these terrorist attacks, like there was one in a hotel in Africa, I forget the name of the country, but they were going around asking people before they shot them or stabbed them, are you a Muslim?
02:02:18.000Can you recite a verse from the Quran?
02:02:37.000Then there's 868, which I can't quote verbatim, but it says, you know, God does not parade you from those who did not fight you because of your system or drove you out of your home, that you deal with them kindly and equitably.
02:02:52.000And so that context and also the fact that the Qur'an emphasizes being righteous and even simple logic because you're going to go to hell if you're a criminal, whereas if you're righteous you go to paradise.
02:03:03.000It says we don't just attack other peaceful people and it's all supported by the Qur'an.
02:03:08.000So anyone who goes around and says, oh, are you a Muslim?
02:03:12.000You know, if you're not a Muslim then you die.
02:03:14.000That's clearly forbidden in the Qur'an and it's evil.
02:03:17.000So then I think what we're having resulting here, and this goes back to what I was saying earlier, is you have leaders of this movement that are radical themselves, probably filled with hate and anger, that then preach those messages to the youth and then indoctrinate them into the gang mentality of Islam instead of the peaceful religious mentality.
02:03:41.000Yeah, and I disagree with them doing that, and they're going to be responsible for their sins, because God is fully aware, and we're all responsible for our own judgment, so we need to be very careful about what we teach and what we say, including me.
02:03:53.000And so when they're teaching those things, they're going to be questioned about it on the Day of Judgment, including anyone who they misled and the people who believe them, and I feel what else was going to say beyond that.
02:04:17.000Were you born into a Muslim family or did you convert?
02:04:20.000I joined Islam at 27. I just grew up rejecting religion and thinking for myself and just questioning where I came from and stuff like that.
02:04:33.000So, I guess, what were your main reasons of doing that?
02:04:38.000Well, I remember seeing a list of values in one of the translations called the Reformist Translation.
02:04:43.000It was like a summary of the values in the Qur'an, which I agree with.
02:04:46.000I know a lot of people might have a misunderstanding of what those are, but it's the values that any good person would agree with, like working for peace, working for justice, being a good person, being righteous, worshiping God alone, and generally doing good, and even treating women respectfully.
02:05:02.000Some people might disagree with that because they don't understand, which is another topic, but stuff like that, and I just agreed with the values.
02:05:08.000After searching for and reading about other religions or New Age stuff or what created us and ways of life, it was the most logical to me and the most clear among other reasons.
02:05:20.000And ultimately the grace of God, because He guides and He wills.
02:05:24.000So basically what you're saying is Wahhabism and Sunniism are the same form of Islam, which is the second form that's fighting over each other, and then there's another true form?
02:05:35.000Yeah, well, Islam is the official religion defined by God in the Quran, and with blasphemy to even alter that or add to it, which is also another argument against Hadith, because there's all these practices in there that are additional, that Muhammad would not do that.
02:05:48.000He wouldn't invent these practices in the name of God.
02:05:50.000We can't say, oh, you need to pray it 20 times a day, even five times a day as an innovation, three.
02:05:54.000And so all those other teachings, these man-made things, even, not that I disagree with laws, but even like Sharia law, when they try to say that it's Islamic, it is not Islamic.
02:06:03.000It is their own Teachings that they made up.
02:06:06.000The only thing that is Islam is the official religion in the Qur'an that God sent, because nobody else has the authority to do those teachings.
02:06:13.000So yeah, Wahhabism, Shia, Sunism, any other invention besides the literal words of the Qur'an, even my own words, don't define Islam in my opinion.
02:06:21.000Only the literal words of God define Islam.
02:06:27.000And then, unless you have other questions, I just want to talk about the vow shall not kill I didn't catch that last part, the law of what?
02:06:35.000Yeah, so the reason why it says thou shalt not kill innocent people is because what would you do if someone, like let's say you have a bully who can't be persuaded by words, but on a greater magnitude, like somebody who causes wars or like a violent criminal, let's say you have this evil, violent person who is literally going around your town killing people.
02:06:56.000Well, you could either arrest them and then keep them alive in jail and maybe Give them some kind of rehabilitation, like hoping they'll change.
02:07:02.000But what happens when you release them?
02:07:07.000But what I'm saying, if someone who is clearly violent, who has maybe caused wars and millions of people to suffer, those are the type of people who were commanded to kill for the sake of protecting innocent lives, for protecting people, because there's just no other way to deal with those people.
02:07:23.000And so when you say, thou shalt not kill, then you're actually causing more harm Because you're allowing evil which is a reality on earth.
02:07:31.000So you're taking the practical understanding of the Bible and the Quran and comparing the two where the Bible says basically you should be a martyr and Die and go to heaven where the Quran says take action and kill the evil I guess and this goes back to what you were saying earlier Rob where I could see A radical leader of an ISIS group who's trying to indoctrinate the youth saying, no white person is innocent.
02:08:30.000So what the Qur'an is is perfectly clear, and it'll say, you know, do not kill innocent people.
02:08:36.000And so you're right that someone who is wicked, because they are, would go out and say, "Well, it says, you know, do not kill innocent people, but white people aren't innocent, therefore you should kill them." Okay, well that person who says that is clearly distorting it, and they're going to be responsible for that mistake, because they're going to have to answer to God.
02:08:52.000And he's going to say, "Well, you clearly had evil in your heart when you were teaching people." I understand that.
02:09:04.000So, when we start to try to consider political policies, And border policies or immigration policies, we can't sit here and say, well, just because he's going to hell for teaching these kids that all white people or all Americans or all Europeans are infidels, that we just ignore it or let it go.
02:09:24.000I mean, if that's an issue, which you haven't really said you agree is an issue or not, you understand where I'm going with this.
02:09:30.000But if that's an issue, don't you think that something needs to be done about it?
02:09:35.000Well, what do you suggest we've done about them?
02:09:37.000Stop them from speaking or arrest them?
02:09:39.000Well, I would just say, I mean, if you talk about, I mean, I don't want to kill anybody.
02:09:58.000It might not be comfortable at times, but you know what?
02:10:02.000If we're gonna claim that we live in the greatest country in the world, and that doesn't matter what country you're from, any country, if you're gonna claim that you live in the greatest country in the world, then you're gonna have the greatest vetting process to make sure that the people that immigrate into your country Have the same values are going to want to share the same life practices and not are going to come to your country with hate filled in their heart.
02:10:25.000And if I believe or it's a fact That there are religious ISIS groups that are preaching hate towards infidels or Americans or Europeans, then guess what?
02:10:38.000You're not coming into my country, and if you are, you better beware because we are going through a strict vetting process.
02:10:45.000And if you want to escape that violent extremism, I would think you'd be okay with that vetting process because you know, at the end of the day, your heart is good, you're willing to assimilate, you want to be free.
02:10:57.000And so you're willing to go through that painstaking process to get into this country.
02:11:04.000If people want to preach hate and say, down with the West and all that...
02:11:07.000I'd say if you're in this country that's your right but you also can't go out if somebody's going to criticize it go oh they're racist and and then stop these people and make laws and say oh you can't criticize a certain religion which we have um you know we have social media networks going around saying oh no you can't criticize Islam you can't criticize Islam you can't criticize Islam instead of letting the debate happen because what you find is when these debates happen Usually the ones on the left who are wanting for more censorship usually lose the debate because
02:11:38.000they really don't have too many arguments.
02:11:39.000So I could take somebody preaching hate at me.
02:11:44.000It's when that hate turns to anything else, and I will defend myself in any way if I'm ever attacked.
02:11:52.000And I think you saw, which, and I don't even know if that's, you know, yeah, I've never had to kill a person, but if somebody was coming at me with the intent to do me harm or my children, I would kill them instantly, or at least attempt it.
02:12:06.000And I think you saw that with these other guys doing that.
02:12:09.000When they start in these rampages, you know, the police take them out or a citizen takes them out.
02:12:16.000Like in Texas, we had off-duty cops take out a couple guys who tried to shoot up a draw Muhammad contest or whatever was going on.
02:12:26.000Yeah, I was going to say, and I agree with, you know, Scanning people for immigration and not letting those kind of people in your country that want to kill you or whatever, and I don't want to kill anyone either.
02:12:36.000However, it comes down to whether or not you want justice on Earth and what is practical, because if you want justice on Earth, then you need to recognize that there are people on this planet, including the people that you're talking about, that want to kill innocent people or harm innocent people and say, well, hi, you know, it comes down to the definition of innocent.
02:12:53.000Well, that's unavoidable, because if you want justice on this Earth, then we have to Use some kind of judgment or reasoning or empirical data to determine who the criminals are, and some are obvious.
02:13:03.000Like, if someone is committing all these violent crimes, then obviously they could be accurately called a criminal or not innocent, and that everyone has different perceptions.
02:13:12.000And so my point is, if you just say, thou shalt not kill, then you are actually furthering injustice because you are letting the people who do kill run free.
02:13:22.000Unless you want to use a different alternative like arresting them.
02:13:25.000You know, if you say, well, thou shalt not kill, but thou shalt arrest.
02:13:31.000I hear what you're saying with the thou shalt not kill versus thou shalt not kill innocence.
02:13:35.000And you're basically saying, okay, like Rob was saying, if someone's trying to kill my family, well, then I think I have the right to kill you.
02:13:52.000I think that the injustice, the current injustice that we have on planet Earth is so great right now, the divide is so great that if we truly want to restore justice, it's going to have to be extreme.
02:14:08.000You cannot fight extreme injustice without extreme justice.
02:14:14.000So if we want to try to tackle the biggest injustices in the world, you're not going to be able to do that with some watered-down, half-assed approach to justice.
02:14:26.000I mean, you've got to put your balls to the wall and go 100%.
02:14:32.000If you want to talk about justice on planet Earth, you have to first accept that you have extreme injustice on planet Earth, and then you have to measure how extreme your justice has to be to counter that injustice.
02:14:44.000You cannot have some milquetoast approach to justice on planet Earth.
02:14:50.000And just one last point related to that, unless you have more questions.
02:14:53.000I think it's two things, two important things.
02:14:55.000So one is for good people to truly unite and not fight amongst each other, even if they're from other religions, because I have had atheist friends, and naturally I get along with good Christians.
02:15:05.000For some reason, anytime there's some good Christian who's humble or whatever, I just always have gotten along with them and made friends with them naturally, even if we believe that we disagree with teachings or if God is angry with them because of what they teach or whatever.
02:15:18.000And so I think good people need to not fight among each other.
02:15:21.000And then the second part is kind of related, is to not be arrogant pricks.
02:15:27.000And then the second point is to be honest and sincere about the root of the problem and who is actually causing these problems.
02:15:35.000Because a lot of people, they get this narrow point of view.
02:15:38.000They'll see something on the news, like some kind of attack, which could be anyone, and also blamed on anyone.
02:15:42.000And they say, oh, the Muslims are the main problem in the world.
02:15:45.000Therefore, we need to focus all our efforts on stopping ISIS. Well, it may be true that they are a significant problem, but there are far other greater...
02:15:52.000There's lots of evil on this planet, like gangs, mafias, you know, even in Washington or other countries, there's lots of evil on this planet.
02:16:00.000So if we're really sincere about stopping justice, like what you said, and being extreme about it, and forceful or whatever is necessary, then we need to really take an accurate measure of the evil on this planet and Be non-biased, if possible.
02:16:16.000Well, and that's why I get so, I don't know, triggered, I guess, when I'm dealing with these, you know, anti-Trump protesters that want to live in a politically correct world, okay?
02:16:27.000But you sit here, and I've had this conversation.
02:16:29.000When you actually get down to the brass tacks, And you point out all the corruption in the planet.
02:16:35.000Most of the Trump protesters will agree.
02:16:37.000They'll be like, yeah, okay, yeah, alright, you're right about that.
02:16:40.000So, why are you so triggered by political correctness?
02:16:46.000You don't seem to mind when politicians lie to you all day long, but a citizen says something that you don't think is politically correct, all of a sudden you're up in arms.
02:16:54.000And of course, now it goes to Donald Trump.
02:16:57.000So, I just feel like, again, to sit here and to try to Water down our speech or politicize speech, you're never going to be able to fight the extreme injustices on this planet if you're not even willing to speak your mind about them.
02:17:15.000Yes, and I agree with free speech, and I also see where it leads when they create those stupid laws like, oh, you can't criticize Islam, you're an Islamophobe.
02:17:22.000I don't even like using that word, and I've never actually used it truly because it's a stupid word.
02:17:27.000And where it leads, it leads to communism or whatever synonym you want to use because then they create their own teachings in the name of Islam and then they say, oh, you know, you criticize Islam, you're going to Dale now, and that's where it goes.
02:17:39.000And that's how you stop people from, that's how you stop any truth from getting out when you start saying things can't be talked about.
02:18:06.000I would like to talk about, I've been seeing on social media, especially with people who like Trump saying ban Islam, and I'm just like, that's Not okay.
02:22:44.000Basically, it was set up after World War I, and it was set up by the Carnegies and the Rockefellers, and what they wanted to do was take control of the message that comes down from the government and make sure that that message is given to the kids and that all kids are given the same message, it's unified, so they can control the population, essentially, to create a bunch of office workers, people who...
02:23:09.000Have to work in order to pay the bills to keep that society going.
02:23:15.000I think the cliche is they know enough to do the job, but they don't know enough to change things.
02:23:29.000Back in the 80s, she was appointed by Reagan, and her job was actually, because she started finding out all this stuff about how they were going to use computers to brainwash children.
02:24:50.000It's because the Department of Education has created this infrastructure where all the money goes, it goes into bureaucracies.
02:24:57.000It doesn't go into teaching kids because it doesn't cost a lot of money to teach kids.
02:25:02.000But we've been brought up that we have to have these beautiful, giant, palatial schools that have gymnasiums and all this great stuff, and that the only way kids can learn is if there's computers in every room.
02:27:02.000You're spending time learning about EQs and compression gates.
02:27:06.000Go learn about what they're really doing to your children because you're going to have kids someday and you're going to put them in school and you're going to wonder why they don't learn a goddamn thing.
02:28:59.000I don't even want to go to the DMV. I don't even want to go to any government building to try to get anything done because the service sucks.
02:29:08.000And let me tell you, Zachary, it's not a problem of healthcare in this country.
02:29:11.000We have an insurance problem in this country.
02:29:15.000Even if you get your health care that you so want so much, you're not going to be able to afford it.
02:29:22.000You're not going to be able to go to a doctor because you're going to look at, oh, it's going to cost me $300 to go to a doctor, and then if they want to do a test, another $1,200.
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02:32:03.000We went over two hours and 30 minutes.
02:32:05.000Thanks to everybody who called in, you know, and talked about what's going on with all the inbreeding in these Islamic countries, and does that have anything to do with Islam?
02:32:16.000We got on topic, answered some questions from Muslims across the world, some non-Muslims.
02:32:23.000It was a pretty interesting topic, and we had to end it with Zachary, the guy who just loves the Department of Education because people told him to.
02:32:30.000I just love the Department of Education.
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