On this episode of the Alex Jones Show, host Alex Jones is joined by David Knight and Owen Schroeder to discuss the latest in the Susan Rice and Michael Flynn scandal and how it relates to the surveillance of the American public by the government.
00:01:53.000I don't know if it gets more ridiculous than this.
00:01:56.000I mean, it seem like we're asking ourselves this question every day.
00:01:59.000Can it get more ridiculous than what's going on right now in these politics?
00:02:03.000But Susan Rice has taken it to another level, I think.
00:02:05.000Well, you know, you're talking about all the different ways that Rice can be prepared.
00:02:10.000We're seeing her milled right now, and the husk is being removed, and we're seeing the nasty underbelly of the national security state.
00:02:20.000And I think people, regardless of where they are on the political spectrum, Ought to be looking at this and saying, is this the way we want our government to operate?
00:03:10.000I don't want to see this kind of raw abuse of power, which is what we're seeing here.
00:03:14.000And of course, we're seeing, as I mentioned before, Lemon, Don Lemon, saying, we're not going to cover this at all, but there are other people at CNN, and I didn't have time to fully break this down, Owen, when I was over there running out of time, but there was a very good article on The Hill by a couple of people who were at CNN who really do want to look at this information.
00:03:34.000And so I want to break this down a little bit because they asked some very interesting questions.
00:03:38.000They said, this is a smoking gun, and this is why it matters.
00:03:43.000And when they're talking about this, they said, we have to understand We've put these protections on here for a very important reason.
00:03:53.000We did not want our government to spy on Americans.
00:03:56.000They were doing this 40 years ago in the 1970s.
00:03:59.000That's why we had the Church and Pike Committee hearings.
00:04:29.000And they call that a legal proceeding.
00:04:31.000And so what they have done is they've taken The instrument that was designed 40 years ago to put a check on surveillance of the American public, and they have now turned that into a legal tool to go with their new technological tools.
00:04:45.000That's what we should be concerned about.
00:04:47.000And here's how some of this stuff looks when we look at it.
00:04:50.000She says, we know for certain the case of former National Security Advisor Mike Flynn.
00:04:54.000His name was acquired, retained, disseminated, not only around the government, but also to the Washington Post.
00:05:02.000No fewer than nine former or current intelligence officials discussed the matter with the paper.
00:05:07.000The leaking of this information is a different matter altogether.
00:05:10.000It carries a possible 10-year prison sentence for a felony conviction.
00:05:16.000And so she said, apart from the fact that this was a leak, that this was a criminal felony with a 10-year sentence, What crime did Flynn commit to merit uncovering his name?
00:05:29.000Because by law, it is supposed to be sealed.
00:05:31.000The American public deserves an answer, she said.
00:05:36.000Why were other Trump team members' names unmasked?
00:05:41.000Why did they do this going back to when he was a candidate, even before he had secured the nomination?
00:05:47.000I think if we go back and we look at this, We're going to find these corrupt politicians were probably not just looking at Trump.
00:05:54.000They were probably looking at all the other Republican candidates.
00:05:56.000They were probably using this to get information on Bernie Sanders, for example.
00:06:00.000Okay, we know they were doing dirty tricks in the DNC. Then she asked another interesting question.
00:06:04.000And this is, she has a tweet from another colleague of hers at CNN, Manu Raju.
00:06:10.000And he said this, some of the communications picked up were Trump's transition officials talking about Trump's family.
00:06:16.000So why in the world were conversations about Trump's family picked up, she says.
00:06:19.000Finally, the suggestion of wrongful surveillance is compounded when you consider the Democrat ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, Adam Schiff, taking a trip to the White House on Friday afternoon to view the alleged unmasking documents.
00:06:34.000And we talked about the The fact that they use these terms to spin what's really going on here, making it look like, oh, you unmasked Trump.
00:06:42.000Like he's the one who's doing something wrong.
00:06:44.000No, what we're doing right now is we're unmasking Donna Rice.
00:07:58.000The whole house is burned down on this point from so many different angles because they always have to fall back on either, well, we're investigating Russian ties, but they have no evidence.
00:08:08.000So then they have to fall back on, well, it was just intermittent that we just happened to pick up the surveillance that just happened to have these names that we had to unmask.
00:08:17.000And I think another story here is before we go to the tape of Susan Rice on MSNBC today with Andrea Mitchell, we're going to expose her and her double-think and her contradicting herself on air three different times in the short 15-minute segment.
00:08:31.000But another story here, David, I think is the complete...
00:08:37.000It's just one side of the media covering this one way, and then the other side of it covering the complete opposite way, where Fox News is calling this out.
00:09:11.000Tell me Michael Flynn doesn't know exactly that that's fried rice sitting to his left.
00:09:15.000Well, it's one of the reasons, Owen, that I talked about This article that was on the hill from a couple of CNN contributors because that's the hope that we have.
00:09:25.000Right now, we're seeing that pretty much this is breaking along partisan lines.
00:09:29.000We have to understand that civil liberties, that privacy, that the Bill of Rights, that the Constitution, that we don't want to live in a Stasi state, this should be a bipartisan issue.
00:09:42.000And there are a few people, and as I said, they may be kicked out of CNN because that certainly is not the CNN position.
00:09:47.000The official position is We're not talking about it.
00:09:54.000And so we're seeing that kind of partisanship that's going on there.
00:09:57.000But my hope is that right now the Republicans are in power and the Republicans have cheerleaded this kind of surveillance state, saying that it's going to give us security.
00:10:34.000It'll get into the wild and it'll compromise everybody's security.
00:10:38.000Which is exactly what we saw in Vault 7. Not only did they curate all this stuff, and as we've been told in the past, they were the ones who were funding it, who were creating these exploits for the most part, but they put all this stuff together.
00:10:51.000They lose all of this stuff It goes into the wild.
00:10:55.000And even after it's in the wild, they don't tell anybody about it.
00:10:57.000We have to have WikiLeaks tell people about it.
00:10:59.000And then we have some companies like Cisco who work to try to plug these leaks, work with WikiLeaks.
00:11:12.000They'll acknowledge the receipt of it to the extent that Julian Assange says, we're going to publish a list Of the companies that we've informed about how their software has been compromised to compromise your security.
00:11:23.000And we're going to tell you those who will not fix it because here's the issue.
00:11:46.000So whenever you give up your liberty for the promise of safety and security, you lose both your liberty and your safety and your security.
00:11:53.000And I'm hoping that the Republican politicians, Donald Trump and all these people on the right who have pushed for the surveillance state, I'm hoping they look at this and understand, as we've been saying here, Alex Jones has said it for years, I've said it for years, the first people who are going to be in danger Of this surveillance state are the politicians because they have power that other people want.
00:12:16.000They will use these tools to not only expose wrongdoing of people, but to frame people.
00:12:23.000And that's what we see happening now with Donald Trump.
00:12:27.000And they can put stuff on your computer even if you weren't doing anything.
00:12:31.000So that is the concern that we see, that this is going to be used for political purposes, and that is precisely what we're now seeing.
00:12:39.000So the people who are the most vulnerable to all of this are the people who have the power to change it if they only have the will to change it.
00:12:48.000I still think that the Donald Trump wiretap tweet is the greatest troll tweet in the history of the world.
00:14:05.000First of all, Andrea, to talk about the contents of a classified report, to talk about the individuals on the foreign side who were the targets of the The report itself or any Americans who may have been collected upon incidentally is to disclose classified information.
00:15:26.000Except these people have far more capability than Richard Nixon or J. Edgar Hoover, any of these people who would use their political power and their tools of office to spy on people.
00:15:39.000They now have a massive surveillance state that is there.
00:15:42.000And clearly, we have multiple officials who've gone on the record with Daily Caller saying that she knew about this.
00:15:50.000She was the one who, you know, the buck stops here.
00:17:13.000And let me also elaborate and say that when the intelligence community would respond to a request from a senior national security official for the identity of an American, that would come back only to the person who requested it.
00:17:28.000If I saw an intelligence report that looked potentially significant, and understand by definition, if it's being provided to me, it is significant.
00:17:58.000And it's important for everybody to understand, the President of the United States and people in the White House do not have the ability to order such collection.
00:18:57.000There was no such collection surveillance on Trump Tower.
00:19:01.000Even though the entire reason they're having this conversation is because of the intelligence that was collected.
00:19:06.000We thought it was crucial to defend the integrity of our election process and to be able to respond appropriately to what the Russians did to understand the full extent of their involvement.
00:19:19.000And now she's saying, well, yes, we were doing it to figure out what was going on with Russia.
00:19:23.000As the intelligence community got more and more information on that and shared it with U.S. officials.
00:19:27.000You've never seen anything like this in your life.
00:19:29.000It was not typically broadly disseminated throughout the national security community.
00:19:31.000Oh, but nobody knows about it, so I don't know why we're even talking about it.
00:19:36.000Some people are trying to suggest that by asking for the identity of an American person, that is the same as leaking it, is completely false.
00:19:45.000Now she thinks we're getting the terms convoluted.
00:20:43.000This is according to, now we got three people who went on the record to make these accusations.
00:20:48.000These are not anonymous sources anymore.
00:20:50.000Yesterday we were seeing these reports from Bloomberg, reported this, and so we've had multiple people contact us and say they have never seen the intelligence community politicized the way that it is.
00:21:03.000Now we've got names associated with this accusing her of creating detailed spreadsheets.
00:21:09.000She ordered US spy agencies to produce detailed spreadsheets of legal phone calls involving Donald Trump and his aides when he was running for president.
00:21:18.000In other words, phishing for something.
00:21:20.000And also trying to make him guilty by association, by allegations.
00:21:25.000Now this is coming from former U.S. Attorney Joseph DeGenova.
00:21:29.000He said, I hate to use that word unmasked.
00:21:59.000And they point out There are multiple sources that have reported to both Fox News, to Bloomberg News, now to The Daily Caller.
00:22:06.000People are coming out and talking about this.
00:22:08.000It's starting to open up because the ship is sinking and nobody wants to be the last person.
00:22:15.000So all the rats, and I'm not calling the people who are whistleblowers rats, these are the good people who are talking about this, but we're going to get to the position once these good whistleblowers start pointing out what's going on, then we're going to see even the rats Jumping off of the ship and giving it up.
00:22:31.000They say they reported that Rice had requested the intelligence information produced in a highly organized operation.
00:22:38.000And remember, they go back and talk about Evelyn Farkas at the beginning of March.
00:22:41.000She was on television with MSNBC. Said she was urging her former colleagues at the time to get as much information as they could, as much intelligence as they could, before Obama leaves the administration.
00:22:50.000But of course, this is going back to last summer.
00:22:55.000Retired Colonel James Warishuk, a NSC veteran, former Deputy Director for Intelligence at U.S. CENTCOM. Okay?
00:23:04.000So we've got a guy who's a former U.S. Attorney, Joseph DeGeneva.
00:23:09.000We have a retired Colonel who was a National Security Council veteran.
00:23:13.000Deputy Director for Intelligence at CENTCOM, U.S. Central Command, told The Daily Caller that many hands had to be involved throughout the Obama administration order to launch a political spying program like this.
00:23:24.000He said surveillance initially is a responsibility of the National Security Agency.
00:23:30.000When one of the other agencies says we're looking at this particular person we'd like to unmask.
00:23:35.000So he says if you're going to reveal somebody's name that is an American citizen that has not committed a crime, you're going to have to make the case that they have committed a crime or that their name has to be released for some reason.
00:23:47.000He said the lawyers and the counsels at the NSA would be talking to the lawyers and the counsels at the CIA or at the National Security Council Or the Director of National Intelligence, or the FBI. Now, I see a problem here.
00:24:00.000There's too many people who have this information.
00:24:03.000We have too many intelligence agencies.
00:24:05.000When I talk about 17 agencies that are looking at all this information, that's how things can go south.
00:24:11.000But, his point is, is that if you've got somebody who wants to reveal these names, to make names of Americans public, then that agency that has that information And again, it's not a wiretap because they're collecting this information on everybody.
00:24:25.000It's just that now that they've curated this, they've stored this information, they can now release it and use it in a political way.
00:24:51.000Maybe that's your elected official who really wants to change the government and they want to take him down.
00:24:56.000Okay, so he says they would have to talk at the lawyers at the other places.
00:24:59.000So that, he says, shows an unbelievable level and the degree of this administration to look for information on Donald Trump and his associates, his campaign team, his transition team.
00:25:11.000He said this is really, really serious stuff.
00:25:14.000This is a guy who was former deputy director for intelligence at U.S. Central Command and a National Security Council veteran.
00:25:22.000Another person, a former National Security Council senior director.
00:25:26.000Michael Doran told The Daily Caller, somebody blew a hole in the wall between national security secrets and partisan politics.
00:25:35.000We've got multiple people speaking out about how the infrastructure would require that somebody at the level of Susan Rice, it would require that they would have to be the go-between to get past these legal hurdles that are there for all these different intelligence agencies.
00:25:51.000And then you've got a former U.S. attorney Joseph DeGenova, who fingers her directly, saying she's creating a spreadsheet.
00:25:59.000She's got some explaining to do here, as Ricky Ricardo would say.
00:26:04.000Well, and despite the reports that you just alluded to, despite all the reports coming out, despite the 16-minute segment that she shot with Andrea Mitchell, we'll have a few more clips from that in the next segment, but despite all of that, she still went on air yesterday...
00:26:20.000And pretended like she had no idea that any of this was going on.
00:26:47.000But what I will say is that the investigations that are underway as to the Russian involvement in our electoral process are very important.
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00:34:07.000Welcome back to this InfoWars Live 3 to 5. Owen Troyer, David Knight exposing Susan Rice, who turns out to be one of the biggest liars to come out of the Obama administration.
00:34:21.000This is a woman that could have disappeared off the face of the earth Instead, she had to be part of a political witch hunt, and now she'll be forever remembered as fried rice, steamed rice, boiled rice, cooked rice, and that's who she is.
00:34:34.000But, of course, it was CNN and Don Lemon attempting to stick up for her last night.
00:34:39.000If you've got Don Lemon in your corner to back you up, I'd probably just get out of the ring.
00:34:43.000Here's Don Lemon from last night sticking up for Susan Rice.
00:34:47.000It has been one month since the President of the United States falsely tweeted that former President Barack Obama wiretapped him.
00:34:55.000One month later, the White House and the President are still trying to make a lie true.
00:34:59.000And they're using the President's Twitter account, the White House press briefing podium, and right-wing media to do it.
00:35:06.000Today it's a claim that President Obama's former national security adviser Susan Rice unmasked the names of Trump associates.
00:35:13.000We will talk about that in detail in just a moment on this very program.
00:35:16.000And last week, It was a debunked talking point that former Obama administration official Evelyn Marcus admitted spying on the Trump team.
00:35:44.000There is no evidence whatsoever that the Trump team surveilled or was spied on illegally.
00:35:51.000There is no evidence that backs up the president's original claim.
00:35:54.000And on this program tonight, we will not insult your intelligence by pretending otherwise, nor will we aid and abet the people who are trying to misinform you, the American people, by creating a diversion.
00:36:06.000So he's just going to insult our intelligence by pretending that the elephant in the room isn't there.
00:36:12.000He will aid and abet the politicized intelligence community.
00:36:15.000Look, we have former U.S. Attorney General Joseph DeGeneva, who went on the record saying that Susan Rice had created detailed spreadsheets of legal phone calls of the Trump administration.
00:36:28.000We also have a State Department official, Richard Grinnell, is expected to be nominated to serve as U.S. NATO ambassador.
00:36:36.000He said it was common knowledge For weeks within the State Department, people were talking about it, insiders were talking about Susan Rice's role in this affair here, in terms of unmasking and creating this guilt by alleged association of Donald Trump.
00:36:54.000This was a political dirty trick, folks.
00:36:57.000And when they talk about having our election hacked, you have to understand that they have never, even though they use the term hacked, They have never said that Russians got in and flipped, electronically flipped voting machines.
00:37:11.000And, of course, that was put on the record when they had Director Comey testify before Congress.
00:37:16.000He was asked on a state-by-state basis, did the Russians change any votes here in this state and that state and that state?
00:37:24.000What they're saying is that they hacked the election because they created a false narrative.
00:37:30.000These are the people who not only created a false narrative, but they used the electronic capability of the surveillance state to literally hack the election.
00:37:38.000We've had WikiLeaks come out and tell us with Vault 7, look, they have these programs, Umbridge, where they curate the techniques for breaking into these different systems and they can make it look as though it's coming from another place.
00:37:51.000They can create these tactics and techniques.
00:37:53.000But then they went further and they showed us the Marble program where they would mimic The keyboard strokes and make it look like it was done in a foreign language on a foreign keyboard so that they could finger China or Russia or North Korea or somebody else.
00:38:08.000And as we talked to John McAfee on multiple occasions, he says nobody that is even mildly competent would ever leave their fingerprints.
00:38:18.000They would always put somebody else's fingerprints if they're going to hack into something as a state-ordered espionage.
00:38:24.000And so we knew that they were doing that, but now we've actually seen the documents thanks to WikiLeaks.
00:38:29.000And of course, Owen, we've also had the fact that...
00:38:32.000What is the basis for the Russian hacking?
00:38:35.000Well, we've had to take the word of the CrowdStrike CEO who was running the data services for the DNC. And the FBI director, Director Comey, has not seen that data.
00:38:49.000So he is going simply on the word of the person who was hired by the Democrats that the Russians hacked this.
00:39:24.000A guy named Glenn Simpson, who used to work for the Wall Street Journal.
00:39:29.000He was hired by a former Clinton supporter to get dirt on Donald Trump.
00:39:33.000He was also connected to, he was one of the founders of Fusion GPS. These are the people who worked with Chris Steele, Who is the former MI5 agent who said he had produced this dirty dossier.
00:39:46.000So here's a guy who was hired to get dirt on Trump by Clinton supporter.
00:39:51.000Then his foundation works with Chris Steele to produce these fake files that they called a dossier.
00:39:57.000And now we learn, thanks to The Daily Caller, that he was also involved in trying to roll back as a lobbyist for a Russian co-intel individual.
00:40:08.000That he was going to roll back a 2012 law called the Magnitsky Act, which is going to roll back sanctions against Russian criminals.
00:40:18.000There's your Hillary Clinton connection.
00:40:20.000And we simply have to take the word of people like Glenn Simpson, people like the CrowdStrike CEO, that this is really something there.
00:40:29.000Even though we've seen absolutely nothing turned up by FBI Director Comey, Even though they're not investigating Susan Rice, as far as we can tell at this point, and even though Adam Schiff goes and looks at the documents and then is completely silent about what he saw.
00:40:44.000Donald Trump said, here's the documents where we had this stuff unmasked.
00:40:48.000He goes there and he says, well, it took him a long time to show me those documents, but I can't say anything about it.
00:40:52.000I think Don Lemon is actually upset he didn't get invited to Barack Obama's hot dog memoir party on the abandoned island.
00:40:59.000But it's funny that we're even having this debate here because, so they've been investigating this, they'll admit it, since October.
00:41:06.000They always say October 7th is the day that they say they started this investigation.
00:41:10.000I guess that's the day they realized Hillary Clinton was going to lose, so they had to begin this political witch hunt.
00:41:58.000And this whole thing is a political witch hunt.
00:42:00.000And I don't, I mean, David, I was saying this yesterday to Rob Dew.
00:42:03.000I feel like right now, if the Democrats are Let's say the Democrats are a lumberjack in the woods and they've just got one hatchet to try to chop down all of these Trump trees.
00:42:18.000They're burning their hatchet with this Russia thing.
00:42:20.000They're burning the hatchet with the Neil Gorsuch holding up that confirmation.
00:42:25.000They're going to screw themselves in 2020 when they try to force another candidate down our throat who spouts out the same nonsense that they've been doing for four years.
00:42:32.000And they're going to screw themselves again when the next Supreme Court justice comes up.
00:42:36.000And it's a liberal that they're trying to replace.
00:43:08.000And so now we've got people going on the record, making these accusations.
00:43:12.000All we're getting are vague, contradicting denials from Susan Rice as she goes on with Andrea Mitchell, who is leading her by the hand, trying to help her walk down these, leaving breadcrumbs for her like Hansel and Gretel.
00:43:25.000Okay, trying to get her out of the woods.
00:43:36.000And what we need to do is we need to not only expose these criminals in the Democrat Party who decided that they are not going to accept the election, but they are going to try to hack this election.
00:43:45.000They worked from the primary, from the Democrat primary, to hack it against Bernie Sanders.
00:43:51.000They simply complained about, oh, I think we were hacked by the Russians.
00:43:55.000Again, shoving it off to the Russians so nobody paid attention to what Hillary Clinton did to Bernie Sanders.
00:44:00.000Then they start hacking the election themselves, literally hacking it, literally using electronic surveillance, breaking into things, curating this information, and then revealing it in an illegal way, committing multiple felonies, creating a spreadsheet committing multiple felonies, creating a spreadsheet of individuals so they can smear them by allegation, But now it is blowing up in their face, and we've got people going on record.
00:44:26.000Again, the person who has been chosen, Trump's pick for NATO ambassador, Richard Grinnell, is talking about how this is common knowledge within the State Department.
00:44:33.000We've got people who say this is common knowledge in the intelligence agencies.
00:44:36.000We have a former U.S. attorney who has gone on record.
00:44:40.000We have Other individuals who are high ranking on the National Security Council saying, this is the way that it works.
00:44:46.000You have to understand the extent of institutional corruption that would be required to do this illegal unmasking, not even the illegal leaking through the Washington Post, but just to get this unmasked, to take away the anonymizing that has to happen according to the law.
00:45:05.000You have to understand the institutional corruption that is there.
00:45:10.000This is a crisis, danger, and opportunity.
00:45:12.000This is an opportunity for us to try to push back against this unaccountable, dark, deep surveillance state.
00:45:20.000If we do not seize this moment in a bipartisan way, if we don't have good people at CNN who push back against this mindless partisan nonsense that we just heard from Don Lemming, Okay.
00:46:04.000And this is, they have far more powerful tools than anybody could ever imagine at that point in time.
00:46:09.000We cannot allow this to continue without being answered, without being reformed and hopefully The people who are looking at this will go beyond just using this as a means to shut down these crooks in the Democrat Party who's remained in Washington.
00:46:22.000We've never seen a former president stay this politically active to create a shadow government that's going to operate within Washington to continue to push this false narrative out there.
00:46:33.000We've got to use that against them, not only destroy them, but also destroy the mechanism.
00:46:37.000That's why when we talk about Obamacare, Owen, we need to understand that repeal of Obamacare It has to include not just getting rid of some of the bad aspects of it, but it's got to get to the fundamental roots of it.
00:46:50.000Because if we don't rip out the roots, if we use in phase two, if we use the powers that the Health and Human Services Secretary has, If we use that to try to make this better, then what we're going to do is we're going to make this thing become fixed in place.
00:47:09.000It will take root and we'll never get it out of our society.
00:47:11.000And so we have to get to the structures that allow this kind of corruption, the structures that allow them to dictate our health care, to take away our life, our liberty, our money, and run our lives from Washington.
00:47:23.000So we have to rip that out, not use it in phase two.
00:47:26.000That's why I said this whole plan that came from Paul Ryan was absolute garbage.
00:47:30.000And we heard Roger Stone talking to Alex Jones earlier today saying that what he's heard was this is a plan that was written by Boehner, passed to Paul Ryan, who then passed it to his friend from Wisconsin, Reince Priebus, who then gave it to Donald Trump, and Trump ran with his plan.
00:47:48.000It left all of the power structure of Obamacare in place to be used by the next person.
00:47:54.000And in the same way, we do not want to have this Stasi election, this hacking of the election that the Democrats did and continue to try to do.
00:48:03.000We do not want to leave these levers of power there.
00:48:06.000Even if we pull out these corrupt individuals, we don't want to leave those levers of power there to be used by the next person to come in, the next crooked group to come in.
00:48:15.000I'm about to put out the phone number, but I just want to, again, kind of recap the series of events here.
00:48:22.000The Democrats want to hoist Trump up as a Russian agent.
00:48:34.000So what do they try to do to continue this political narrative?
00:48:37.000They leak intel of an illegally unmasked intelligence report by Susan Rice.
00:48:44.000Okay, so now the question becomes, well, where are they getting this intelligence report?
00:48:49.000Well, Donald Trump said that he was being wiretapped by the Obama administration, so they can't admit that they were surveilling Donald Trump.
00:48:57.000They got trapped there, so they can't admit that they were actually surveilling Donald Trump.
00:51:17.000A new branch of the FBI dedicated just to this political witch hunt.
00:51:21.000So you know what Donald Trump should do?
00:51:22.000The FIB? The FIB? Here's what Donald Trump should do.
00:51:27.000Donald Trump should start to pull some of his own Intelligence reports, start to pull some of his own intelligence and start to unmask that and start to show how John Podesta is in touch with the Russians, how Clinton was in touch with the Russians, and just say, hey, look, we're doing a Russian investigation.
00:51:49.000If they're allowed to do it and they're not going to have to go in front of a judge, then I think that Trump's team should do the same thing and put a mirror right up to these Democrats.
00:51:57.000I think one of the reasons why they're dragging their feet so much on Trump appointments is they don't want to have a full Justice Department there that can open an investigation.
00:52:04.000They're dragging their feet on getting his people in place so they could do something like this.
00:52:09.000But you know, another issue you're talking about, are they looking at us, Owen?
00:52:13.000One of the things that we saw today was the fact that, of course, your smartphone apps are colluding to spy on you in detail.
00:52:19.000This is a report that came out of Virginia Tech University.
00:52:22.000They analyzed 100,000 pieces of Android software.
00:52:25.000They found thousands of pairs of apps that were colluding to spy on you, things that were fairly innocuous.
00:52:31.000But understand that when it spies on you, they can get your private information, your banking information can be hacked.
00:52:37.000They say that these apps, one example they gave was a flashlight app that worked in tandem with a receiver app to divulge the user's information such as contacts, geolocation, or provide access to the web.
00:53:48.000Google and those social media apps have far more information about you than the ISPs.
00:53:52.000And I'm not saying that the ISPs should be allowed to sell your information.
00:53:57.000But this is a misdirection to try to have a more stringent control of what's going on with the internet, to really try to shut down your freedoms, and to try to misdirect you From the real assaults on your freedom that are coming from all these other directions.
00:54:13.000So that's what we continually see is the misdirection coming from the Democrats using this for political purposes.
00:54:19.000Nancy Pelosi said, well, the ISPs have more information on you than anybody.
00:54:45.000If you're very casual about what you do on the internet, you're not going to have any privacy.
00:54:49.000Your life is going to be an open book to be used against you as you wish.
00:54:53.000And the thing that's concerning, Owen, I'll say one last thing here, and that is The kind of minority report, activity-based intelligence, human domain analytics, which is all part of geospatial intelligence, the false positives, where they can look at your activity, they can identify you as being part of a political group, they might falsely identify you as being a threat, an enemy of the state.
00:55:16.000That's what we had Lord Monckton talking about earlier today when he was on with Alex Jones, how the Obama administration started classifying people who stand up for property rights.
00:55:24.000And for the Constitution as terrorists, justifying the assassination of Lavoie Finnegan along those lines.
00:55:32.000So that is the concern, that you would be labeled as a terrorist, that you would be falsely identified as a dangerous person because you're a political enemy of these people.
00:55:41.000And that's what is really at stake with them keeping this information on you.
00:55:45.000And now it looks like the Trump administration is going to expand the ability to sell our data to the likes of Verizon and all these phone companies.
00:55:52.000So now Google and Facebook don't have a monopoly on selling your data.
00:56:20.000Me and David are sitting here on this set.
00:56:21.000We've got about eight people actually running the show back there, and that's what it takes to do the Alex Jones Show, this show, the nightly news, and every time Alex wants to go live, which seems to be more and more.
00:56:31.000So help us expand, get more staff, so these guys back here don't have to work 20 hours a day just to get all this content out.
00:56:39.000You know, I've got a review actually here.
00:57:27.000I take two brain force every day, and it helps me to focus.
00:57:31.000I think they could have called it brain focus, because it really does help me to focus.
00:57:35.000It helps me to recall individuals' names from the past, which is something that is very useful when you're on the air because, as we all hear, you lose about 20 IQ points when you get on the air live.
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01:04:40.000He is feeling the brunt of this unconstitutional surveillance state, and hopefully that will spur him to do true reform after he exposes these criminals.
01:04:52.000We have to get rid of the structure that's there, just like we've got to get rid of the structure of Obamacare and not use it for our purposes.
01:04:58.000You know, the analogy that I made the other day on the radio.
01:05:46.000And I think that they've never been more exposed in the whole history of politics, the Democratic Party, The Communist has just took it over and just made it to what they want it to be.
01:06:00.000Yeah, and you know, one thing that I like to say when I try to have debates with liberals who are really just socialist communists, and they really don't want to admit it because they have actually studied the history of communism, not like the fake.
01:06:14.000Right, the progressives, the intellectual progressives, not the fake protesters that come out and say they're socialists.
01:06:20.000They'll just chant Nazi scum when the Nazis was actually a party of socialists.
01:06:24.000But there's a story on Reason.com today.
01:06:27.000Venezuela reminds us that socialism frequently leads to dictatorship.
01:06:31.000And, you know, actually, even though we live in the West, even though we live in America, Even though we still do the ceremonies of this great country and we still like to believe that the Constitution is a document we abide by.
01:06:46.000You know, if you actually did a study, if you took somebody neutral and they just did a study of America right now, they would actually say that we live in a socialist state.
01:06:57.000America is essentially a socialist state.
01:06:59.000When you can move to this country and get free handouts, or you cannot work and get free handouts from the government, you live in a socialist state.
01:07:07.000I'm curious, what do you think about that, David?
01:07:10.000Well, I think we live in a mixture of socialism and fascism.
01:07:38.000You control people, but you have a thin veneer of private ownership.
01:07:41.000And you work, as we see, with crony capitalism, with a few individuals, a few multinational powerful corporations.
01:07:49.000You allow them to do business, but you control them very tightly and you work with them.
01:07:53.000And then the final stage is to just confiscate the stuff and that's outright communism.
01:07:58.000But he disagreed with Stalin in the sense that he thought that Stalin had gone to the final step and he was doing that as an intermediate step.
01:09:03.000David, I don't know how I deal with this, but they chant against fascism in the streets, but they'll get mad at Trump for wanting to repeal Obamacare, which is a fascist bill, essentially.
01:09:11.000And even though I think that some of Trump's policies are more leaning towards big government, I've been almost kind of, I don't know if shocked is the right word, but I mean, Trump has, for the most part, avoided...
01:09:26.000Doing anything that could put the term dictator on him or authoritarian on him.
01:09:31.000I mean, he could really come down on some of these people.
01:09:33.000I feel like he could really come down on a Susan Rice.
01:09:36.000You know, he could really come down on some of these people in the deep state.
01:09:39.000And he's kind of just letting them operate.
01:09:41.000He's kind of just letting them operate.
01:09:42.000And I don't know if that's a game he's playing, a rope-a-dope tactic or what.
01:09:46.000Thank you for the call, Alex, from Kentucky.
01:09:47.000But that's something that I'm kind of seeing with Trump.
01:09:56.000Well, again, it may be that he doesn't have all the people that he needs in order to be able to pull this through because they have deliberately delayed and stalled the appointment of people that would support him.
01:10:18.000I'm calling because I wanted to get a point out to everybody that watches you guys.
01:10:23.000You know, it seems like the leftists have all this time on their hands to shove their agenda and go out and protest and act like idiots.
01:10:30.000And the right, you know, we have jobs, we have kids, we have things in our lives that keep us busy.
01:10:35.000We need to start making time to call the mainstream media stations, you know, and tell them that we're tired of this.
01:10:41.000Either put out Put out the proof on Trump or shut up.
01:10:46.000Well, you know, I think that one thing, you know, because you talk about how we always make the joke that, you know, the liberal protesters, they don't have a job, they live at home, so that's how they can, you know, go out at 11 o'clock a.m.
01:10:58.000on a weekday and protest every day of the week.
01:11:01.000Or they have a grant, you know, they're a professional protester, right.
01:11:05.000But, you know, one thing I think that Trump is putting a lot of stake in And this is where I think that you're right about it's time for the American people on the right to start really taking the power back.
01:11:15.000And they did when they voted for Trump.
01:11:16.000And that's the next upcoming round of local elections.
01:11:21.000This next upcoming round of local elections, we can start to see people like John McCain, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters...
01:11:32.000Rahm Emanuel, the list goes on and on.
01:11:34.000In the next three years, we can see all of these people removed from office if the people go to the polls and vote with their brains.
01:11:54.000I mean, people like Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are just outright I don't even know the correct term to describe them here on this family show.
01:12:03.000But that's what I think Trump is putting a lot of stake in.
01:12:34.000The globalists have had a slogan for a long time, think globally, act locally.
01:12:38.000You need to think constitutionally, you need to think about liberty.
01:12:41.000Who is going to advance the cause that I get my life back out of the hands of Washington, out of the hands of your state capitol, back into my hands?
01:12:50.000Who is going to advance that and then work for that at the local election?
01:12:54.000That is a difficulty that we have as a national news organization, as an international news organization, to focus On so many of these different individual races, but that's where the real power is.
01:13:04.000And if you want to leverage that, instead of going out and getting into dust-ups with these social justice warriors, these people, then get involved in politics, take over the Republican Party, and get some people who care about liberty Who care about the Constitution, who are going to give you control of your life back.
01:13:25.000You have to work for it, but you've got to find some people who are going to lead that fight, who are going to take that fight for you to the state capitol, to the national capitol.
01:14:26.000You know, but what she said about the mainstream media and fighting back and protesting the mainstream media, David, here's actually my plan, and I'm working on this right now.
01:14:34.000I am putting together a list of all of the companies that run advertising on CNN's television network.
01:14:42.000I'm putting together that list as we speak.
01:14:45.000Now, to no surprise, pretty much every advertisement is either a fast food company or a big pharmaceutical company or an insurance company.
01:15:05.000It doesn't matter if nobody watches CNN. CNN could literally have zero viewers a night.
01:15:10.000If they continue to get advertisers to buy their time shares, then they will continue to run their programming.
01:15:18.000So we have to hit them where it hurts, and that's in the pocketbooks.
01:15:22.000If these, if people know that they're going to get boycotted, if they put an ad on CNN, it might take a year, but trust me, people are going to stop running ads on CNN.
01:15:33.000I promise you that folks, that's how the economy works.
01:15:37.000We're already seeing that work in real time right now with the Trump administration replacing the Obama administration.
01:15:43.000So I'll, I'll, I'll do my best to complete that list and I'll put it out on Twitter, but that's my plan.
01:15:48.000I don't know if you have any thoughts on that, David.
01:15:50.000I'm just going to put out the list of all the people that advertise on CNN's television networks that run commercials and I'm going to say, here you go, boycott these companies.
01:15:59.000If they know you're boycotting because they pay CNN, then they'll withdraw their advertising and CNN will get hit in the pocketbook.
01:16:27.000But if you can transfer that kind of grassroots support...
01:16:30.000To people who have a liberty agenda, who have a constitutional agenda at your local level, you can transcend the mainstream media pushing back the lies that they're going to tell people, the money that they're going to have to advertise.
01:16:46.000You're going to have to do it as a group because nobody's going to come around with a lot of money like Donald Trump to wage a national campaign.
01:16:53.000The good news is that if you do it at the lowest possible level and work it up from the bottom up, you don't have to have a billionaire who has a populist agenda.
01:17:03.000You don't need a blue-collar billionaire like Donald Trump if you work it from the bottom up.
01:17:07.000We need to have a mass movement of people who are educated, who understand what they stand for, why they want their freedom, and they have to demand it en masse.
01:17:16.000And if they do that, you can transcend the mainstream media.
01:17:19.000That's what's necessary, I think, to win this thing.
01:17:21.000So you're saying maybe like a young guy should maybe start like a grassroots campaign.
01:17:27.000You've already got people who are connected via Trump.
01:17:58.000You either make this decision about your life or somebody else makes this decision about your life.
01:18:03.000You either do it locally or somebody in England does it for you or somebody in Washington does it for you or somebody in Austin does it for you.
01:18:11.000For somebody at the UN if Hillary Clinton would have won.
01:18:17.000The goal is, the easy standard that we measure everything against is, does this make me freer, or does it give somebody else control over my life?
01:18:26.000If you set that up, instead of this vaguely defined Tea Party, I think things will move ahead at that point.
01:18:32.000We can still have disagreements as to what's going to advance the cause of liberty.
01:18:36.000But you could get a grassroots movement against candidates who would fight it at the city level, who would fight it at the county level, and then you can move up to the state level because then you're going to identify if these people can get something done at those local levels, you're going to know who's going to do something at the state level and then at the national level.
01:18:54.000Let's go to a Navy veteran, George, in Florida.
01:19:12.000Inside of the United States Navy Marine Corps, there is a lot of mentorship and leadership that goes on as soon as you get in and hand-holding.
01:19:22.000And I want to say that gentlemen like you and Alex Jones, I've really done a great deal to not only just put out talking points of political value that help Americans wake up and realize where our real struggles lie right now in our lives and in our country, but you're starting to put moral values back into people as well.
01:19:40.000And I'm not one to speak to religion and Christianity and et cetera, et cetera.
01:19:45.000But you are doing great, great work over there.
01:19:49.000Well, you know, you talk about leadership, George.
01:19:52.000You talk about leadership, George, and hold on right there.
01:19:54.000You know, I never served, my dad never served, but my grandpa did serve in the Navy.
01:19:59.000And it's funny that you talk about leadership.
01:20:02.000You know, my grandfather was a very independent man, and he pretty much would let me run around and light the world on fire, basically, and tell me to learn the hard way.
01:20:12.000My mom's probably listening to this laughing right now, and that would freak my mom out.
01:20:16.000My mom would hate leaving me with my grandpa because she knows that if I was with grandpa, he was going to let me learn the hard way, and he was going to say toughen up.
01:20:37.000You're going to make mistakes, and you're going to have troubles, and you're not going to have your mom over your shoulder all the time to back you up.
01:20:45.000And that was something that I think, I don't know if that's what you were alluding to, George, but I feel like that's kind of the same paradigm that the social justice warriors or these young liberals in college are experiencing, where They look to the government to help them.
01:20:59.000They want the government to answer all their problems.
01:21:01.000Oh, I took on this enormous amount of student debt and I don't have a clue how I'm going to pay it off.
01:21:30.000The government has all of your interests at heart.
01:21:32.000We need to go back to the foundations of this country.
01:21:34.000And again, Washington, Franklin, others who are not explicitly Christian.
01:21:40.000They wanted to avoid appearing to be sectarian because that would have split the country apart.
01:21:45.000Many of the states had official religions, and they had fled a system where they had a particular denomination or sect rammed down their throat.
01:21:57.000So they spoke in general terms about God, but they also spoke about morals.
01:22:00.000And they said, if we don't have a moral foundation, we will not be able to maintain a democracy.
01:22:05.000And they understood that the roots of this country were rooted in what we call Judeo-Christian morals and ethics.
01:22:13.000And when we abandon those foundations, then we are really in serious trouble.
01:22:19.000And we can see what the fruit of that is.
01:22:20.000In our society today because we've abandoned those foundations and unless there is a revival, unless we turn back to those, and it is those things.
01:22:29.000You're talking about mentoring people as fathers.
01:22:31.000It is a revival, a turning back to those morals that will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children.
01:22:41.000Yeah, and then people like Snoop Dogg and Bow Wow and Lena Dunham and all of these other people will have no say anymore.
01:22:49.000They'll have no pull, the most immortal people in our culture that just preach immorality.
01:22:54.000Well, the things that we always saw that were...
01:22:55.000People realize that those individuals are entertainers.
01:22:58.000They are not people to be taking your life lessons from.
01:23:02.000Wait, I shouldn't take a life lesson from Miley Cyrus?
01:23:05.000But they're presented as role models, and unless parents, whether you have two parents in a home or you have one parent in a home, you have to take the position of a role model.
01:23:14.000You have to be deliberate about the morals that you're going to impart to your children.
01:23:20.000The generation that I grew up with was lost enough, but what's been going on right now, like you were saying, with what's going on inside of the The major big colleges, like John Rappaport's couple page report, it was very...
01:23:36.000That was an unbelievable report from John Rappaport, how most college students actually have a mental disorder.
01:23:43.000And here's the thing about that is, now there's a big debate right now in the industry whether you can say, well there's an increase of mental disorder, or well there's just an increase of diagnosis of mental disorder.
01:24:15.000We are reading from the same sheet of paper to quote and lean on many other smarter men than myself.
01:24:20.000And that is exactly what's going on right now.
01:24:23.000And inside of the government, people like Chuck Schumer right now, who's getting more camera time than Tom Cruise in the 1980s, who looks like Count Chocula, by the way.
01:24:46.000It is being broadcast inside of every military base, inside of every naval medical facility, inside of every A school, C school, either that are football.
01:24:54.000It's ridiculous the narratives that are pushing inside of that.
01:24:56.000And if you don't drink the Kool-Aid, they're going to make you disappear.
01:25:00.000You see, I rolled my eyes at you guys when a friend turned me to you.
01:25:04.000Many years ago before my service, and then I was so gaslit that listening to you and finally finding you people and tuning in was honestly what saved me from becoming a statistic.
01:25:54.000When they had Charles Jaco running fake reports.
01:25:57.000But he says, well, yeah, he says often they have the information before we do.
01:26:01.000But see, that was the thing that was concerning to me about that was that they would rely on CNN's narrative for that information.
01:26:08.000But of course, as part of Operation Mockingbird, I mean, they push a narrative that they, you know, it is, they were listening to a government transcript.
01:26:33.000If you do not drink the Kool-Aid, they're going to make it go away.
01:26:36.000There are some weak-minded people that try to rise up and serve their country, and as soon as the brainwashing there gets to them too much, They go to medical, they claim, you know, the anxiety the source is getting to them, and if they start singing the narrative that they don't like, some kind of song about how the command is corrupt, or if they've seen something they shouldn't have, or...
01:26:57.000...about how the superiors are sleeping with the subordinates, they are gonna make you disappear to a mental hospital, they're gonna medicate you, and then you're going to magically disappear, hang yourself, et cetera, et cetera.
01:27:07.000People can laugh and think this is a joke, but it's not a lie.
01:27:12.000You guys ask for veterans to rise up so much, but you have no idea how much there's condition in there to sit down and shut up.
01:27:19.000And when they come around yearly, bi-yearly, bi-annual, I hate to roll over you guys like this, and they come around for these command comfort questionnaires, and they sit there, they'll have a four-star admiral come in, this is the God-honest truth, gentlemen, and they will come in and he'll say, in front of 500 people, 1,500 people, and say, Okay, does anybody here have a problem with anything?
01:27:42.000And it will be crickets, because you are designed to behave like that from boot camp, and all you will give is softball questions.
01:27:49.000And is that not something that has a reverse effect, George, that ends up working people in the opposite direction, scratching their head like, this isn't right, what's going on here?
01:27:57.000And if, God forbid, you ask a serious question, like one E7, a chief in the Navy, said, hey, listen, sir, excuse me, Admiral, I broke my arm on my leg in a car accident going back a couple weeks ago, I got hit with your analysis the very following Monday after coming back from ER. I obviously popped dirty.
01:28:14.000I had to spend my own career with my own money to retain my job here.
01:28:19.000So, you know, if this guy could get an answer, his commanding, shut him down and hurt everybody.
01:28:46.000And if people want to understand this from a different perspective, get outside of, you know, maybe you don't like Christianity, you don't like religion, you think that Christianity is a religion, whatever.
01:28:58.000You know, if you want to look at it from the standpoint of Brave New World, that's what's really going on.
01:29:03.000They want to give you this hedonistic society.
01:29:14.000And we're seeing that instituted throughout the schools as an instrument of social change.
01:29:19.000But if you wake up and if you ask questions, And they perceive you as a threat, you will get the 1984 treatment, and that will mean that they shut down your career at the military.
01:29:29.000That's one of the aspects of that that comes out of that.
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01:35:29.000Yeah, well, initially I wanted to discuss the ignorance's bliss as far as Cruz and Cornyn were concerned during the SJ Resolution 34 discussions.
01:35:39.000I called their offices several times and their own people didn't even know what I was talking about.
01:36:24.000I'm telling you, when I first started doing this and I started calling, when I back lived in St. Louis and I first got woke up, David, I started looking at some of these votes and when I didn't like the way my representatives voted, I called the office.
01:36:40.000And I'm telling you, nine out of ten times someone would answer and be like, what?
01:36:56.000Let me tell you, when we had the National Education Association and teachers unions, Try to shut down homeschooling, and they've done that a number of times.
01:37:04.000Homeschooling families would be active.
01:37:07.000They would pick up the phone and they would call.
01:37:09.000And so even against a massively powerful entrenched union and government bureaucracy, you can have an effect.
01:37:17.000They do not expect to get phone calls from this stuff.
01:37:20.000So if all of a sudden their phone lines are shut down with people calling them, And those are voters.
01:37:25.000Numerous times with people when they try to shut down or homeschooling by imposing regulations and restrictions on it.
01:37:31.000When that happens, they pay attention.
01:37:34.000And that's why I'm saying you can still get these people's attention on a lot of these issues.
01:37:38.000And you can really do it if you operate at the local level.
01:37:41.000You can have even more power than you do with these congressional people.
01:37:45.000And, of course, we've seen that happen at the congressional level, at the Washington, D.C. level.
01:38:27.000I worked for the government for a while, and there's a lot of information that the IRC providers do provide, you know, to the government, so they actually are too attractive.
01:38:37.000They have been doing it for quite some time now.
01:38:39.000It was about six years ago when I was with them on that.
01:38:45.000VPNs aren't always the safest bet either.
01:38:46.000or send them, they don't sell your information.
01:38:49.000But you turn around and do actually give your information away if it is requested by anyone, by a company. - So I think what he's talking about is browser histories. - Yeah, we got kind of a bad connection on him.
01:39:02.000But here's the thing folks, you know we get upset, a lot of people on the left get upset when the information is sold and there's commerce involved.
01:39:09.000And I understand that's a violation of your privacy.
01:39:11.000What about the fact that the government is going to use that information?
01:39:22.000We had SOPA, ACTA, PIPA. They came up with all these different acronyms.
01:39:26.000Finally, they got it passed when they dropped the P. Because they didn't want people, I guess, asking who was being protected.
01:39:31.000Who was being protected were the companies that were turning this information over to the government.
01:39:36.000Not because they wanted to sell you a set of tires or a brand of soap, but because they wanted to look at you for criminal purposes or because they wanted to know if their phony narrative was working.
01:39:48.000That's the thing that I'm really concerned about.
01:39:50.000I'm far more concerned about CISA than I am about this bill.
01:39:55.000Certainly this is an issue, but let's not look and let's not forget the bigger problem.
01:39:59.000The bigger problem that they don't want you to see because they're focusing on this and the Democrats are focusing your attention on this.
01:40:05.000The bigger issue is that the government has access to everything that you have there and they've given immunity protection to the corporations who turn it over to them on demand.
01:40:14.000We have a fight that is going on right now between Google and the federal government because we had a landmark decision about a year or so ago saying that they could not turn over information that they collected on foreign individuals because Google and other countries wanted to operate in other countries and because it had become so notorious because the Snowden leaks everybody did not want to do business with American companies.
01:40:33.000So they're trying to do this for their business purposes.
01:40:35.000Imagine if Americans demanded that they had privacy and not just foreign individuals.
01:40:41.000And so they're trying to say, no, no, we have a court decision.
01:40:44.000You cannot force us to turn over information that we collect on individuals in other countries, even if they're breaking the law.
01:40:50.000So that is what we need to start demanding, that we have some privacy here in America.
01:42:23.000And I believe that he was killed because the intelligence services wanted to pass through CISPA, or in this case, CISA is what they finally got through.
01:42:33.000That's what you need to be focused on.
01:42:36.000This other thing is important, but it is a side issue compared to what the government can do to you when it demands and gets your information and you can't do anything to these companies about it.
01:44:18.000He proved that, not only with the filibuster, but he also proved it when John McCain just came up and tried to get this little country into the UN nonsense that he tried to pull.
01:44:30.000Yeah, by the way, now McCain is propping up this story that the Assad regime used chemical weapons in Syria There are some highly doubtful things being reported out of that chemical weapons attack.
01:44:46.000We saw this in 2013 when he was selling that narrative.
01:44:49.000It was exposed by people first in the UN weapons community as well as Russia, and then eventually Americans in the American military, they exposed that false narrative back in 2013. So McCain is basically running with this, what I believe is a false narrative, with the Assad regime using chemical attacks.
01:45:06.000And they've got all of this propaganda being pushed with it going forward as well.
01:45:55.000Let me chime on this because we had Roger Stone come on earlier and he prefaced it by saying, look, whenever I have criticisms of Trump, it's because I want to see Trump succeed in the agenda that he campaigned on and what I believe that he wants to accomplish.
01:46:07.000And so I have those same kind of concerns.
01:46:09.000And when he was talking about how he believed this bill came from Boehner and Ryan, and of course I've said in the past, Ryan was picked to run with Mitt Romney because Mitt Romney, the establishment, wanted to get this health care bill through.
01:46:22.000Romney care that had been enacted in Massachusetts with Ted Kennedy was exactly like Obamacare.
01:46:29.000So they were hedging their bets with Mitt Romney and with Paul Ryan.
01:46:31.000And Paul Ryan has blocked any reform or repeal of Obamacare so far.
01:46:36.000But what I'm concerned about, and I'm curious as to what you think about when you look at politics, why the Twitter rants from Donald Trump attacking people like Meadows out of California and then threatening Mark Sanford, a Republican out of South Carolina, saying that the budget chief... a Republican out of South Carolina, saying that the budget
01:46:54.000Mick Mulvaney, this was reported by The Hill, Mark Sanford said the president said that Mark Mulvaney came to him and said, the president asked me to look you square in the eye and say that he hoped that you would vote no on this bill so that he could run a primary challenger against you in 2011.
01:47:10.000And Sanford, who comes from a long line of political Republicans in South Carolina, said that Mulvaney was a friend, a former member of the South Carolina delegation.
01:47:20.000He said, I've never had anyone over my time in politics put it to me as directly as that.
01:47:26.000And it was reported by Politico that, again, Jared Kushner, who Roger Stone said had, according to his sources, been sending a lot of private tweets to Joe Scarborough at MSNBC that would then result in attacks on Bannon.
01:47:40.000They point out in Politico that Kushner had brought in Zeke Emanuel.
01:47:51.000Kushner brought him in for the meetings in the White House with senior staff three times, had him meet with Donald Trump once to put forward his view of healthcare.
01:47:59.000And of course, Zeke Emanuel has been very outspoken about the fact that he believed that Obamacare would never be repealed.
01:48:08.000So the question that I have when we look at what's moving forward with this and the attacks against Justin Amash by Dan Scavino, Trump's social media director, by the attacks, the threats made to Sanford.
01:48:28.000We've had Michael Savage say, we don't really understand what Donald Trump is doing attacking the House Freedom Caucus.
01:48:35.000And as Laura Ingraham pointed out, she said there were more people, this did not cause you to lose votes, there were more people who were opposed to this bill that were outside the House Freedom Caucus, the so-called maybe moderates in the Republican Party were opposed to it, than people in the Freedom Caucus.
01:48:49.000And yet it was the Freedom Caucus who stood by Donald Trump when it was Paul Ryan trying to oust him in October.
01:48:57.000Here's an article from CNN. Mark Meadows, in October 2016, saying that efforts to remove Speaker Ryan were picking up steam because many GOP lawmakers and a stream of callers to this North Carolina congressman's office were very upset that Paul Ryan had not embraced Donald Trump's candidacy.
01:49:16.000He said a lot of people who believe so desperately that we need to put Donald Trump in the White House question the loyalty to the Speaker.
01:49:22.000And so at that point, he was saying House Freedom Caucus is going to talk after the election about getting Paul Ryan out of the speakership.
01:49:31.000And so when I look at this, I don't understand why this misplaced loyalty unless it is Jared Kushner who has Donald Trump's ear.
01:49:39.000I mean, Jared Kushner left while this was all happening, went to Aspen so he could distance himself from it, then comes back and perhaps, and this is pure supposition, perhaps he was telling Trump Hey, it's these guys in the House Freedom Caucus because he's been bringing in Zeke Emanuel, the guy who was the author of Obamacare.
01:52:12.000I don't think that Trump is truly butting heads with the Freedom Caucus.
01:52:14.000I think that he's just doing that to give the Democrats a false sense of hope.
01:52:19.000That the Freedom Caucus will try to stall any Trump agenda as they would with themselves.
01:52:24.000Before we go to Millie Weaver's video documentary report on wind energy, let's play this clip of Lavoie Finnicum's niece.
01:52:33.000Now, I'm just going to say this before we go to the clip.
01:52:36.000If Lavoie Finnicum would have been a black man, I have a feeling that the media would have given this story a lot more attention.
01:52:45.000Let's go to this video of Lavoie Finnicum's niece.
01:52:49.000Honestly, I'm a mother and a hard worker and I never knew that this was going on in our country until my uncle started standing up for his own ranch.
01:53:23.000And the mainstream media does not tell the truth, usually.
01:53:27.000They may say parts of the truth, but right now they're not telling the truth.
01:53:31.000And my job is to get out here and tell the people the truth about my uncle and who he was and how he was murdered.
01:53:38.000Yeah, there's apparently at least two bullets that were fired that were unaccounted for in that ambush, and one of them was a high-powered rifle, as far as I know.
01:53:47.000What facts have you learned since all the information's been coming out?
01:53:51.000There are a lot of things going on right now that we don't know and I am not going to talk about anything that I don't know because we don't know the facts right now.
01:53:59.000No one knows the facts because they're not being put out there for us to know.
01:54:03.000So our family is working on an investigation so we are encouraging everyone to sign our petition.
01:54:09.000We're petitioning the Oversight Committee of Government Reform to do an investigation of his death.
01:55:45.000And our community, the Stand By Me community that we have created, is backing him and backing any sheriff or legislator or any representative in any state that is willing to stand for the Constitution.
01:55:58.000So if they're standing for the Constitution, we stand behind them.
01:56:06.000And again, we played that report because we had Lord Moncton on earlier in the program talking to Alex Jones, and he brought up the issue of Lavoie Finnicum's murder.
01:56:15.000If you look at those videotapes and you look at the aerial footage that was first put out by the FBI without any sound, and then you look at the video that came out later from inside the vehicle and you put those two side by side, you get a real clear picture Of what was going on there.
01:56:31.000And, of course, the trial right now at the Bundy Ranch has just entered the second stage, the defense stage.
01:56:37.000And there were some interesting admissions in the first stage of that, the fact that the FBI went around with film crews afterwards trying to get people to talk about it in a way that would incriminate them.
01:56:46.000So it's a very interesting development.
01:56:49.000You need to pay attention to what's going on there.
01:56:51.000There's very important constitutional issues involved there.
01:56:54.000And this is an example that we have the video, we could actually have a fair discussion based on the video that you could see the media rolling with to increase ratings, but no, they'd rather push the Michael Brown thing where we have no video, it's ambiguous, and they can racially base the entire story.
01:57:10.000They ran the false narrative of the FBI for a couple of weeks until everybody thought they knew all about it and let them spin what was happening with that.
01:57:20.000And then when nobody was paying any attention, then the rest of it came out.
01:57:23.000It's kind of like putting the retraction on page 35 of Section C in the newspaper after you run with headlines, front page headlines, for weeks indicting somebody.
01:57:33.000Then they come out with the full story later on that most people have never paid any attention to.
01:57:38.000And a lot of people are saying that it's just pathetic how the mainstream media has completely ignored that story.
01:58:16.000We don't know when we're getting it back.
01:58:17.000So make sure to get your Survival Shield X2 before we get our, well, hopefully before we get our next supply, which we don't know when that will be.
01:58:28.000This has been Infowars Live 3 to 5. The nightly news will be tonight live at 7. But now we pitch it to a debut of Millie's documentary report on wind energy.
01:58:40.000We debut that report right now on InfoWars Live.
01:59:03.000Live InfoWars Live InfoWars Live InfoWars Live InfoWars Live InfoWars Live InfoWars Live Millie Weaver reporting for InfoWars.com.
01:59:27.000We are here in Kansas City and we're going to be asking people what their opinion on climate change is, if they believe that it's a real thing.
01:59:36.000We're also going to find out what they know about green energy, wind turbines, and if they've actually ever lived near a wind farm.
01:59:44.000I think it's pretty obvious that we have a substantial amount of climate change in Kansas City considering it's like the first day of spring near December.
01:59:50.000So I think it's incredibly important that we invest in green energy.
01:59:53.000I do believe in climate change and about green energy I think it needs to be more proactive than what we're doing now.
02:00:00.000I believe in climate change and as far as green energy, solar and solar energy is really the way to go and it's a lot cleaner.
02:00:11.000I know it's changing because like in the wintertime it's a different weather.
02:00:16.000It's like summertime weather and then sometimes in the summertime it's winter weather.
02:02:04.000To an extent we can, but we'd have to really expand the solar quite a bit in order to do that.
02:02:10.000Because right now we do use so much coal and gas and oil.
02:02:14.000Yeah, so it can be, you know, we can try and make the world better like I used to be back in the days to where, you know, make where the houses and stuff is like solar powered and stuff like that.
02:02:54.000My son is very much involved in green energy because he's a landscape architect and he's worked on projects promoting wind power, especially in the Greensburg, Kansas area.
02:03:12.000I know it created a lot of jobs when they're first installing them, and a lot of the people who got them on their land also get like a government stipend, I believe.
02:03:39.000And what did he say about his experience?
02:03:42.000He didn't really tell me too much about it.
02:03:44.000He just was telling me where he used to stay at.
02:03:46.000I don't know anybody who has lived on or near a green wind farm, but I know my son's involvement with it and it's very important, I think.
02:03:57.000I know several people who have them on their properties where they, so usually they buy out large chunks of land and put in several on a pasture or open sort of high plain area.
02:04:11.000It doesn't seem to cause too many problems.
02:04:13.000There's been a couple incidents with installing them and the cattle that are currently on that land.
02:04:20.000But other than that, it's negligible, I'd say.
02:04:23.000Did you ever hear anything about wind farms causing birds to die?
02:04:30.000I thought they had the little sound things on them that kept the birds away, but I could be mistaken.
02:04:36.000The only thing I've heard about is that they say that some birds do get killed by the windmills, but other than that, I haven't heard anything negative about it.
02:04:46.000Ooh, couldn't say for sure whether I have not heard that.
02:05:21.000I think a lot of the places that are getting wind turbines in their area are the rural areas and people are happier to have cheaper energy out there than not have it.
02:05:33.000Do you think that the wind farms generate a lot of energy?
02:05:50.000It's not surprising to find that many of the people living in the big cities are very much for green energy and they do believe in climate change.
02:06:00.000But we also find that these people have very little personal experience up close to these wind turbines and they've actually never lived near one of these things.
02:06:09.000So we're going to go drive out to the rural areas and see if we can find some people that live right next to these wind farms and ask them what's their opinion on these wind farms What are the drawbacks?
02:06:26.000We are here in Hayes, Kansas, where a wind farm called the Buckeye Wind Farm has been erected a couple years ago.
02:06:35.000I had the opportunity to speak with a young florist working in a flower shop that did say that there has been an unusual increase in funerals In the area surrounding these wind turbines for people that are living by these wind farms.
02:06:52.000She was very nervous and hesitant to speak to me and when it came down to it, her manager or boss did not allow her to be interviewed because they were just uncertain about the whole thing.
02:07:05.000But this just goes to speak to more of this weird phenomenon of health impacts surrounding these wind farms.
02:07:14.000Quite the workday for El Paso County Commissioners.
02:07:17.000After a lengthy 15-hour meeting, commissioners vote to move forward on changes to a controversial wind farm project.
02:07:25.00011 News reporter Kristen Halbrick is live now.
02:07:27.000Kristen, you talked to County Commissioner Amy Lathan tonight.
02:07:30.000This is her district, so even with all those strong objections, why did she say yes?
02:07:34.000County commissioners say if they said no, they could have been faced with a very expensive lawsuit.
02:07:41.000I talked with County Commissioner Amy Lathan.
02:07:44.000I asked her why she was one to vote yes when she was originally against it.
02:07:49.000If Nextera stopped the project, Lathan says they could then turn around and sue the county.
02:07:55.000If we just decide that we just don't want you to develop somewhere because we don't like it, that's considered arbitrary and capricious under the law.
02:08:03.000And construction is set to start right here next month.
02:08:07.000Nextera is hoping to have the wind farm fully operational by the end of this year.
02:08:11.000Well, new tonight, a marathon hearing about the wind power project near Calhan that El Paso County commissioners approved a year ago continues right now.
02:08:19.000It's a feeling of claustrophobia because you can't get away from it.
02:08:29.000It's a feeling of claustrophobia because you can't get away from it.
02:08:32.000I get nausea so I have to take, I'm taking so much medication you can't even believe it.
02:08:39.000I'm not a big baby about stuff and I'm the first one to get out there and work hard and to know that my garden is something I enjoy doing and I can't, I'm not going to be able to do it because Because I can't enjoy it outside anymore.
02:09:07.000We're here out in Calhan, Colorado, amongst the Golden West Wind Farm Array.
02:09:13.000Now, there are a lot of people out here in Calhan.
02:09:16.000As you can see, these wind turbines were built amongst a heavily residential area in a rural community.
02:09:22.000I mean, there are homes kind of all throughout here, and these are giant wind turbines.
02:09:28.000I mean, people don't realize how How enormous these wind turbines are.
02:09:33.000If you actually were to measure the blade diameter, it's actually the length of a football field.
02:09:38.000A lot of these people did not participate.
02:09:56.000And the reason why I chose to do this right by Liberty Road is because our liberties, our property rights as rural community citizens of the United States are under attack by globalist influence, wind turbine, industrial corporations.
02:10:12.000In order to elicit health effects on the Inversound, Senior scientist Vladimir Gavro is an electrical engineer.
02:10:28.000It seems Gavro has constructed an acoustic weapon.
02:10:34.000It begins when he and his assistant start suffering bouts of dizziness and nausea.
02:10:39.000Humans can't hear infrasound, but it still affects us.
02:10:42.000It disrupts a delicate balance system in our inner ear that makes you feel dizzy, nauseous, and generally it's quite unpleasant.
02:10:52.000So in order to induce things like headache, nausea, migraines, all of that from infrasound, you have to be at almost ramp here.
02:10:58.000And even your air conditioner, the air conditioner...
02:11:05.000It takes some time to locate their source.
02:11:12.000Gavarol suspects a faulty ventilator has been generating ultra-low frequency sound, inaudible to the human ear, known as infrasound.
02:11:23.000French scientist Vladimir Gavarol has stumbled across the dangerous effects of super low frequency sound on the human body.
02:11:43.000Since the meeting here on Thursday where the county commissioners heard next era defending themselves claiming that yes, we now do admit that infrasound is being trespassed onto non participating residents from these wind turbines.
02:12:00.000But their claim was that it was not causing any medical harm.
02:12:05.000Well, the person they had as their medical expert was simply a man with no little more than a philosophy PhD degree.
02:12:13.000So they had a philosopher up there presenting their medical facts as to why these wind turbines were safe and why infrasound wasn't going to harm residents.
02:12:22.000And now I'm going to pass the presentation over to Dr. Chris Olson.
02:12:38.000I do know that I read a letter the other day that said he purchased himself in a Canadian court.
02:12:43.000Christopher Olson confirmed under oath that he is not a medical doctor, not an acoustician, not an engineer.
02:12:51.000Or an epidemiologist or an expert in epidemiology.
02:12:56.000Now that was a statement in court under oath.
02:12:59.000He also verified that he has a PhD in philosophy.
02:13:03.000Very briefly, I'll clean up a few things here.
02:13:07.000I do hold a doctorate of philosophy in environmental science.
02:13:11.000A PhD is a doctorate of philosophy, and then you have your subdiscipline, whether it be English, music.
02:13:17.000There was a couple of times it was brought up that I had murdered myself in Canada.
02:13:20.000I have not ever been charged with surgery.
02:13:23.000I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV.
02:13:26.000Well, you know, I did get a chance to go up there and I spoke my mind.
02:13:30.000I told them about a scientific study that several of the people out here, the residents participated in, in which medical doctors did say that these wind turbines were causing several residents, including myself, health effects.
02:13:44.000I am here in the capacity as both a reporter and as a person who does have an interest.
02:14:33.000The doctor actually said, yes, this is extremely abnormal.
02:14:36.000Why are all of your guys's, it was myself, my husband, several other neighbors out there.
02:14:41.000All of our hair cortisol levels were extremely high to where I said, well, could daily stress, could any amount of daily stress account for these hair cortisol levels?
02:14:54.000I had numerous problems, which then led us to decide, let's go ahead and work with Robert Rand who is an acoustical engineer who has infrasound reading devices that we could use and he could then analyze the data.
02:15:09.000Now we had this study where we had a bunch of people all in a cargo van with the infrasound We had our detection equipment present, tracking our vitals.
02:16:04.000So we'd like you to keep your promise to us.
02:16:07.000So when you have somebody like Mr. Olson here, who's not an MD, we have MDs.
02:16:13.000We have doctors saying there's something going on here.
02:16:16.000In my opinion, you know, Nextera can say one thing, but when we actually have doctors looking and doing studies that we're conducting out there, I think that should speak for itself.
02:17:02.000Now, what's interesting is since this meeting happened since Thursday, these wind turbines have been off.
02:17:09.000Now, it really makes me wonder, are they going to be off permanently?
02:17:13.000Have the county officials decided that they are actually having an enormous liability on their hands?
02:17:22.000So we were just standing out here reporting when this man came out and stopped by to ask us why the wind turbines weren't turning and he himself is a resident out here amongst the wind turbine array.
02:17:35.000So have you been affected at all by these wind turbines?
02:18:20.000Generally speaking, those complaints have been that these impacts have been attributable to the infrasound, which will form noise.
02:18:29.000Before I turn things over to Rich to cover in-depth our post-construction Sound monitoring.
02:18:35.000I did want to just touch a little bit on the benefits of Golden West for El Paso County.
02:18:40.000We have some one-time items, such as the $1.6 million development fee that was paid to El Paso County, $1.3 million for road and bridge improvements in the general vicinity of the project.
02:18:52.000Over the 30-year life of the project, we're anticipating we're going to pay $25.5 million in property taxes.
02:19:00.000You know, it's on a $400 million wind farm, and it's something that we feel certainly adds to the tax base of the county.
02:19:12.000Also, in our development agreement, there's a $50,000 annual payment to El Paso County for ongoing costs related to the administration of these permits.
02:19:20.000That is a, you know, we make it no matter what.
02:19:23.000You don't have to show us receipts that show you actually spent $50,000.
02:19:27.000All the objections that were brought forth, they just brushed aside.
02:19:31.000And we always felt there was an ulterior motive why they were here.
02:19:36.000But, you know, without a lot of money to dig into it and legal aid, there's no way you'll ever find out the truth.
02:19:44.000The way they wrote the contract, they can turn around and walk away, and the county's stuck with Trying to get rid of these things.
02:19:51.000We've also heard that the liquids that they use in these things pollute the ground and there's no way of getting rid of that too.
02:20:01.000The ground's contaminated for years afterwards.
02:20:04.000I don't think you're going to have a chance with Xterra.
02:20:07.000I think they're going to take their money and run if they haven't already and then the county's stuck with the cleanup and you know they won't be able to do anything.
02:20:15.000These things are already falling apart.
02:20:18.000There's patchwork done all along the sides of these things and there's been numerous blades and repairs that have been having to be done on these wind turbines.
02:20:28.000I appreciate Infowars coming out and looking into this and hopefully they'll make The public more aware of what's going on and maybe there'll be some resolution and I hope it stops some of these wind farms from spreading to other parts of other communities that will affect the health of other people.
02:20:49.000By the fact that this man just drove by and stopped.
02:20:51.000I've never met him before and he came out saying that his wife and himself are experiencing health problems because of these wind turbines.
02:20:58.000So they don't even attempt to complain.
02:21:01.000They don't even attempt to try because they feel like the county doesn't represent them and the county Just completely disregards their opinion whatsoever and is just fully doing whatever this big billion dollar wind farm corporation tells them to do.
02:21:16.000We did get a tip from this gentleman that the next era wind turbine office area where they have their controls and whatnot seems to be closed down.
02:21:25.000So we're going to go drive by to see if that's the case because, I mean, the turbines are not operating, so it seems as though they have shut them down for now.
02:21:36.000Now we do not know if they are in fact closed or not, but I don't see anybody here and they definitely are locked up.
02:21:43.000Their gate is locked and the turbines are not running.
02:21:46.000They are off and according to residents, they have been off for a couple days now and people are starting to wonder and speculate as to why they're off and if it has anything to do with the recent meeting with the county officials.
02:23:44.000I mean, the get up and go has got up and left.
02:23:47.000And she just fights it every day to take care of the animals and feed them and keep them going while she's watching them suffer and die as well.
02:23:55.000Do you think that the county commissioners are actually going to do something to turn these things off?
02:24:00.000Well, that's the only hope that we have at this point.
02:24:02.000We've done our best to go before them and present our case, and we're hoping that at least they can give us a little bit of due credit.
02:24:10.000They talk about being respectful of them.
02:24:13.000They need to be respectful of us as well.
02:24:15.000Do you think that's a little bit of a victory that Nextera had to admit that, even though they tried to then say that the infrasound wasn't going to cause health problems?
02:24:24.000Well, it was an absolute victory, because all the times before I've talked to Next Air, and I've talked to David Gill personally on the phone, and he told me Infrasound exists, but turbines don't produce it.
02:24:33.000And so I was fully prepared at the meeting to give them proof that Infrasound does exist, but they came along prior to that and admitted to it.
02:24:41.000So now we've just got to get the health aspect of it out there, and all we can do is send out the information to the Board of County Commissioners and hope for the best.
02:24:50.000The wind turbine company only did admit that the wind turbines did create infrasound after residents out here, including myself, all kind of chipped in and paid for an acoustical engineer to put equipment out on Various properties out here to test for infrasound and it was once that acoustical engineer found the presence of infrasound and that data was given over to the county.
02:25:16.000Only then did Nextera admit to the infrasound being present on non-participating landowners properties.
02:25:23.000Now I'm going to turn things over to Rich to discuss the technology studies.
02:25:29.000I'm an associate at Epsilon Associates, and I'm here this morning to talk about the 2016 Shadow Flicker and Sound Level Evaluations for the Golden West Wind Energy Center.
02:25:41.000One is to conduct an actual sound level measurement study during operation of the wind energy facility under wind speed conditions identified as resulting in The study shall also propose mitigation measures to address any habitable structures that have been identified as experiencing higher than acceptable.
02:26:05.000Acceptable is defined in the condition as 50 dBA.
02:26:09.000To evaluate that 50 decibel limit, we're trying to capture worst-case conditions.
02:26:14.000And what does that mean, and how do we do that?
02:26:17.000Well, it doesn't mean that the winds are blowing at the maximum speed at the hub height.
02:26:23.000It also doesn't mean we necessarily need maximum electrical output from the wind turbine.
02:26:52.000The Epsilon reports data confirm the presence of intrusive facility noise levels Exceeding the Colorado State Statute, Article 12, 45 dB, a noise limit for periodic noise.
02:27:05.000Noise levels of 40 dB at night exceed World Health Organization thresholds of noise effects on people, and Epsilon has knowledge of this, as they have cited through 2009 in another non-wee turban case.
02:27:22.000noise impact assessment was not found in the epsilon report epsilon omitted assessment of gold and less noisy impacts on children chronically ill and elderly even wind industry consultants have documented that noise levels over 45 40 to 45 ppa are associated with complaints such as sleep destroyers however the epsilon report was used i wanted to talk with jeff and sandy and ask them you know how have you guys been
02:27:50.000since these wind turbines turned on What health problems have you experienced?
02:27:56.000For me it started with the generator alignment tests.
02:28:00.000For some reason my heart reacted to two of the different tests in which the wind was blowing through the turbines.
02:28:06.000I ended up going to the cardiologist and discovered that I had two different problems with my heart.
02:28:13.000One which was traditionally a turbine related type Medical issue and one which was called a mitral valve prolapse, which was the painful one, discovered that these problems were probably brand new because they were in their infancy, so to speak, in the body.
02:28:37.000What health problems have you experienced?
02:28:40.000I guess it started with the migraine headaches, the dizziness.
02:28:44.000I've also had lots of stomach problems and We had some issues with a dog dying that we autopsied and kind of freaked me out because all of his organs had swollen and his liver failed.
02:28:54.000So I had my doctor check me out and found out that my liver had expanded too.
02:29:01.000So at that point we decided we had to get out of here.
02:29:04.000Have you heard of any heart attacks or any deaths or fatalities due to the wind farm as well as humans but also animals?
02:29:17.000After the generator alignments, they had the line activation, three days of line activation.
02:29:22.000That culminates in the final transfer of 250 megawatts of power down the line to make sure it can handle the volume as quoted to.
02:29:32.000And on that night, we had a cardiac death A cardiac event leading to death.
02:29:41.000We had two farmers end up in the hospital with cardiac events, and I myself did not go to the hospital, but I thought I was going to die of a heart attack.
02:29:50.000We have seen a lot of ocular problems out here.
02:29:53.000We've had a woman and horses go blind.
02:29:56.000Our cows show night blindness now, so do our donkeys.
02:30:01.000For our miniature donkey, it's extreme, the night blindness.
02:30:05.000And then when the turbines are blowing, they will go into day blindness, where I have to guide them to the food.
02:30:11.000You cannot imagine how bizarre that is.
02:30:13.000And up in the region, other people are experiencing that.
02:30:39.000Then another problem is we've actually had people who, it's not just nausea, we had a woman who had to have stomach surgery and they could not figure out why that happened.
02:30:51.000And when I mentioned that the turbines cause nausea, he said, oh my gosh, I'm going to tell the doctor because we had no, the doctor had no idea, we had no idea how this happened.
02:31:01.000What did you do, Sandy, before you decided to come out and live the rural life?
02:31:06.000I studied engineering, electrical engineering, specifically communications and I have a physics degree also so I worked for a mapping company after college and then I worked for two different power companies and then we decided to be closer to our family so we moved to Colorado and I went to work for the DoD.
02:31:27.000Yeah, I went to school for IT, so I was a programmer, systems analyst type of person, until we got the farm out here and started doing the rural life.
02:31:38.000Well, what would you say to some of the people out there that may be skeptical about wind turbines causing problems and infrasound being a problem, given that you guys both have some pretty good college education under your belt and you have a lot of experience in engineering, what would you say?
02:31:54.000I would say that anybody who thinks wind turbines aren't a problem come out and live for three months in a turbine infested house.
02:32:04.000I would actually recommend a year of it for the true skeptics that have influence because what's going to happen is that you're going to know exactly what these rural people are going through And you'll have an upfront understanding of the bizarre nature of the wind turbine environment and the extreme degradation that happens in the body.
02:32:25.000Since the turbines have turned on, we've had five dogs die unexpectedly, and we've had a steer.
02:33:12.000Last night we were able to sleep in the house because the turbines are off and that's the first time in something like a year and a quarter.
02:34:00.000On Tuesday, President Trump signed an executive order unwinding Obama's climate change policies, which has climate change believers in a panic.
02:34:10.000Now, this comes after President Trump has already directed the EPA to start withdrawing and unwinding Obama's Clean Power Plan Act, which pretty much was Trying to dismantle coal plants and replace them with solar and wind.
02:34:28.000So we're going to be joined here by Larry Mott, a former General Electric power plant engineer, to talk about these wind farms and their efficiency.
02:34:36.000Thank you so much for joining us, Larry.
02:34:38.000So, Larry, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and please explain to us how these wind farms aren't as efficient as these wind developers would want us to believe?
02:34:50.000Okay, just briefly about my background.
02:34:53.000I started out as a nuclear power systems engineer with General Electric Company and was with them for five years and then after that started my own firm as a consultant in mechanical systems, mechanics, structures and also power systems including solar and a little bit of wind but more on the residential level as opposed to the industrial level.
02:35:19.000And for the last 30 some years I've been essentially self-employed as a consulting engineer in Colorado but also with international practice extending to Europe and then to Japan and a number of other locations as well for clients.
02:35:36.000So can you explain to us from a technical perspective how these wind farms aren't really that efficient?
02:35:43.000Because I know you were saying something about that.
02:35:47.000The primary problem with wind farms in general, the industrial turbines, and for that matter, even the smaller turbines, is that the energy that's contained in the wind is essentially a very diffused source.
02:36:02.000It's very widespread, very low energy per volume.
02:36:06.000So in order to actually take any energy out of the wind, you have to have a very, very large system.
02:36:11.000That's why these wind farms are so big.
02:36:14.000And there's a limited efficiency that can be gained from the farms.
02:36:18.000Essentially there's a physics formula, a mathematical formula, that indicates that there's a minimum or essentially a maximum amount of energy that can be derived from the wind.
02:36:30.000From these airfoils, which is essentially, these blades are actually airfoils, not really a windmill in that sense.
02:36:39.000So there's a number of factors that feed into this formula.
02:36:44.000One of them, for example, is the air density in the mountains.
02:36:49.000So these machines are approximately 23% less efficient at the elevation of Colorado, Calhan, where this wind farm is, than they would be at sea level.
02:37:00.000When you take into consideration all of the inefficiencies, the nameplate rating, which is what is primarily used as propaganda.
02:37:09.000In this case, the wind farm is supposedly a 250 megawatt farm.
02:37:15.000The actual rating of these machines is about 0.7 megawatts.
02:37:20.000So the rating on the field is not 250 megawatts, it's actually closer to 100 megawatts.
02:37:27.000Then the biggest factor is what we refer to as the non-dispatchable nature of wind energy, which means that the wind is intermittent and Mother Nature controls it, not the engineers in a dispatch center.
02:37:44.000So you cannot actually ask the wind farm to produce more energy if you need it.
02:37:49.000So when you take into consideration that plus what's known as capacity factor, which is the amount of time that the wind actually blows at a rate that you can derive energy from, all these efficiencies applied to the 250 megawatt nameplate rating brings it to under 100 megawatts Wow, so if these wind turbines are so ineffective, then why do they exist?
02:38:21.000Real briefly, the only reason that the wind farms exist is that they're actually harvesting tax money, not wind energy.
02:38:29.000There's a power production tax credit that provides 2.3 cents per kilowatt hour, $23 per megawatt hour of taxpayer money to the people who actually start the wind farms and operate them.
02:38:45.000So they actually make more money on the Tax transfer from working Americans to the owners of the wind farm than they do from the wind energy themselves.
02:38:57.000And to put it very briefly, Millie, if it was not for the power production tax credit, there would be no wind farms in America.
02:39:05.000Wow, and I know you spoke with me a little bit about some corruption that you experienced out when you were out there trying to fight the El Paso County wind farm.
02:39:16.000That's a pretty long story, but I'll try to be as brief as I can.
02:39:22.000About the year 2006 or so, an organization called Clipper was promoting the wind farm in that particular area.
02:39:31.000They were unable to put it together primarily because the zoning would not have allowed it.
02:39:37.000So, an organization came forward called Multi, it was run by a fellow named Matt Cumberworth and David Hazel, and what they did is they actually packaged it up and they were able to arrange for a overlay, a zoning overlay that essentially allowed the county to put in these enormous towers, which would have normally violated the zoning laws.
02:40:06.000So that's when I first noticed, and we went after it based on technical matters, But that turned out to not be very effective because the technical aspects which we just discussed, for example, the lack of efficiency, is not really a major consideration.
02:40:25.000The major consideration is the flow of tax money.
02:40:29.000So NextEra was instrumental in the initial hearing, though they were not the owners yet.
02:40:37.000The owner was Cumberworth and his organization.
02:40:41.000They were sitting in the room, however, and the idea was that they would run a power line into Falcon underground so that the Falcon people would not be opposed to the wind farm.
02:40:57.000That's what the first hearing involved, and they essentially were able to limit all the opposition to just folks that were living in the wind farm All the Falcon opposition essentially dropped out.
02:41:11.000But they were not able to afford to do the buried power line, Millie, so they had to get a change.
02:41:18.000So NextEra essentially assumed that there would be a change to an elevated power line.
02:41:24.000And in order to get that pushed through, they essentially made a payment to the county of $1.63 million prior to the hearing in 2015. They arranged for an elevated power line through a circuitous route through Falcon, not down Highway 24 and not underground.
02:41:45.000They weren't able to afford an underground power line, and they did not want to run it down 24 past all the residents of Falcon.
02:41:53.000So that hearing happened in 2015, and that one was essentially a unanimous decision in favor of NextEra.
02:42:04.000With threats from NextEra to sue the county if that hearing had gone against them.
02:42:12.000The Planning Commission hearing prior to the Board of County Commissioners hearing actually denied the change in the design and would have therefore essentially killed the project.
02:42:24.000So why did the County Commissioners approve the project if the Planning Department denied it?
02:42:31.000The Planning Department had its hearing about a month prior to the County Commissioners, Millie, and the evidence that was presented at the Planning Commission was actually quite devastating to next era.
02:42:44.000They actually were caught trying to manipulate and threaten members of the public The Planning Commission members actually took that into consideration and they denied it six to three.
02:42:59.000Unfortunately, the Planning Commission does not have A power that's binding, let's say.
02:43:09.000So they recommended that the project be denied, the change in the project be denied.
02:43:14.000And I should point out that had the change been denied, in other words, the change to an elevated power line through a circuitous route to the Falcon, had that been changed, the project would have been killed.
02:43:28.000You know, but we are running out of time.
02:43:30.000This just goes to show how, you know, there's a lot of money in these government subsidies that funnels into these wind farms and they have a lot of power and they can use that money to influence.
02:43:42.000I'm here with Lord Christopher Monckton.
02:43:46.000What is your opinion on the wind turbines and what do you know about some of the fraud that they are perpetuating with these wind turbines and the tax subsidies?
02:43:58.000First of all, wind turbines are an extremely expensive way of generating electricity.
02:44:05.000Per megawatt-hour generated, they are five times as expensive as coal-fired power, if you include the subsidies that are paid to keep them going.
02:44:14.000But that's before you take into any account of the environmental cost of these turbines.
02:44:21.000Several major bird species are being wiped out and made extinct worldwide by these windmills, some of which are 600 feet high, And have blades 300 feet across.
02:44:39.000They generate intermittent electricity, costly electricity, and environmentally damaging electricity.
02:44:47.000And because of the prodigious amounts of concrete that has to be made by burning of lime to make the base of these turbines, to stop them falling over in a high wind, they actually emit more CO2 to the atmosphere than they will ever save with the electricity they generate in their entire lifetime, which turns out to be, on average, not more than about ten years.
02:45:12.000So they are a disaster that has found somewhere to happen, because crony capitalists have cosied up to governments.
02:45:19.000There is no scientific base for them because we now know there's no problem with CO2. And even if there was a problem with CO2, by having windmills, you're actually adding to that problem because the net CO2 emissions from windmills because of the construction, the delivery, the transmission lines, and above all, the making of concrete for the bases exceeds any CO2 that would be saved by their operation.
02:45:41.000So, in every way, windmills are an entirely useless solution.
02:45:46.000They break down and require maintenance at a much higher rate than had at first been suspected, though I did, in fact, warn them that that would be the case.
02:45:54.000And so they are a thoroughly bad idea.
02:46:00.000They kill, in particular, the large game birds, which swoop from a great height on their prey that they see below.
02:46:06.000And, of course, often they see other birds dead at the foot of these turbines.
02:46:09.000And what the operators of these turbines now do is they have people at each major turbine site who are on site every day going around picking up the dead birds and taking them away in the hope that nobody will see what's going on.
02:46:23.000But in Scotland recently, we had a very rare bird that came over and flew across the highlands of Scotland, and all the twitchers, the bird watchers, came out with their binoculars and they followed it wherever it went, and they were radioing through to each other, and they followed it across Scotland until eventually it flew into a 600-foot turbine.
02:46:42.000It was batted out of the sky because it couldn't work out how fast the tips of these blades were travelling, and it was killed.
02:46:48.000And it was a very rare bird, and this is happening more and more.
02:46:51.000Bats are also killed by the turbine, and they're killed by the million, because if they go anywhere near them, the very delicate lung structures of the bat will simply implode.
02:47:01.000And the bat will die instantly, even without actually striking the turpise.
02:47:20.000The Scottish landscape, which was one of the most beautiful, wild, unspoilt landscapes in the whole of the world, has been destroyed by this monstrous industrialization with these 600-foot high miles.
02:47:30.000That's right, and Donald Trump had a golf course in Scotland that was even impacted by wind turbines, and he has been vocal about, you know, his opinion on wind turbines and that they are a big waste, just as what you were saying as far as the tax subsidies.
02:47:47.000He came and took a large area of sand dunes on the east coast of Scotland and turned it into a magnificent golf resort.
02:47:55.000And then along came the developers and said, we want to put wind farms in.
02:47:58.000And this, of course, destroys the fragile environment, and, of course, it destroys the bird life, and, above all, for a golf course, you want a nice view.
02:48:06.000And if you're looking at these rusting turbines, half of which aren't even working most of the time, it's really a tragedy.
02:48:13.000And he was quite right to be very angry that, having put a lot of money into this resort, he then finds it spoilt by these crazed environmentalists in the so-called Scottish, so-called national, so-called party, who are really a sort of new version of the Communist Party.
02:48:28.000who have gone around putting these windmills all over Scotland because they hate the landowners who own Scotland and they want to do exactly the kind of damage to them that they've done to Trump.
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