Alex Jones is in court this week, fighting for his right to free speech and the right to be heard on the air. This is the most important case in the history of Infowars and Alex Jones is fighting for it.
00:00:44.000So, innocent until proven guilty, a cornerstone Of our legal system, a cornerstone of justice in this country, innocent till proven guilty, is being thrown out the window now.
00:01:02.000So whether you love Alex Jones or you hate Alex Jones, if you don't understand the implications of saying innocent till proven guilty no longer applies here, innocent till proven guilty, we're going to take that cornerstone out of our Justice and Legal System Foundation.
00:01:23.000If you don't understand how that hurts you, if you don't understand how that goes beyond Alex Jones, whether you love him or hate him, then you have been blinded.
00:02:15.000I myself have had a lot of very important broadcasts in my eight years here at InfoWars, but perhaps on this Monday, July 25th, 2022, at least for the issue of free speech or on the issue of does Alex Jones even get to exist and have a platform and have a voice and be on the air?
00:02:44.000As far as those issues are concerned, this might be the biggest transmission in InfoWars history.
00:02:52.000Now, Owen Schroer sitting in for Alex today, it's an honor.
00:02:57.000And I will be sitting in for Alex for the foreseeable future because Alex Jones is in court this week and next week and who knows how long.
00:03:10.000Fighting for free speech for America and fighting for Infowars to continue to go on.
00:03:20.000Let me lay out the basics here for you and we'll get into the gruesome details coming up the rest of the way in the first hour.
00:03:31.000With legal expertise coverage of what's about to go down.
00:03:36.000Then in the second hour we'll have the legal experts in studio with me as well.
00:03:46.000But Alex Jones is going to be in court.
00:03:49.000In fact, I'm going to be in court some of these days as well.
00:03:53.000And so imagine how many other news outlets have to deal with that.
00:03:58.000In fact, there's really two other people, I would say, in media that deal with the political persecution anywhere close to the level of us here.
00:04:05.000And that's obviously Steve Bannon and Roger Stone and what they've had to go through.
00:04:13.000But so Alex Jones now in court all week fighting for his right to free speech and for America's right to free speech.
00:04:20.000And a lot of people may say, hey, that's not fair to say, that's not accurate to say.
00:04:27.000Alex Jones is in court for things that he said and he does.
00:04:31.000That has nothing to do with the free speech issue in America.
00:04:34.000Well, you'd be horribly mistaken if you fell for that lie.
00:04:42.000Again, we're going to go to the legal experts on this so you don't have to hear my opinion as somebody that's involved or as a talk show host here with interest in the matter.
00:04:51.000You'll hear what the legal experts have to say coming up.
00:04:58.000Let's put it in the context of a question.
00:05:05.000If you had a radical liberal that was a judge And that judge got an Alex Jones case in front of them.
00:05:17.000Do you think they would be responding to the case from a perspective of, I need to put away any biases that I have and I need to make sure that justice is done here and that we have a true, fair proceeding here?
00:05:38.000Or do you think that liberal might say, I've got Alex Jones in front of me, I've got one shot to destroy him, I've got one shot to destroy InfoWars, I'm gonna take it.
00:05:50.000Now let's just say that's a hypothetical question, how do you think that would go?
00:05:54.000And then depending on how that would go, or how that potentially does go, you don't think that has implications for the rest of America?
00:06:05.000You don't think that has implications for the rest of the media?
00:06:09.000If an activist judge can just decide they don't like you, and they're going to destroy you, and then that becomes precedent?
00:06:20.000If you don't see how that's dangerous for the future of this country, and if you don't see how that's dangerous for the future of free speech, then you're blind.
00:06:30.000So when we come back, We're going to be hearing legal experts take first response to what's about to go down in court.
00:07:03.000It depends on how these court things go.
00:07:05.000Alex is in court today for the foreseeable future as well.
00:07:10.000I'm also going to have to be in court, so even my exposure is going to be limited in the upcoming weeks as well.
00:07:19.000But to pick it up where I left off in the first opening segment here.
00:07:25.000A lot of people have been commenting, and you may have noticed, more than ever, Alex comes on air and says this could be our last broadcast.
00:07:33.000And while we did have financial problems, and we were having problems funding ourselves, Ourselves here, the crew and everybody.
00:07:42.000We were able to assure that we could be funded through the summer with some of the sales we had, getting some products back in stock and having the money bomb and some generous donors.
00:07:53.000That all went down earlier this year in the beginning of spring.
00:07:57.000And we basically said, this is a big success.
00:08:16.000And that's when we're going to have our next big challenge, which is the legal challenge.
00:08:25.000We're going to hear from legal experts in this hour some of the gruesome details of what is about to happen in this court case going on all week and next week and for the foreseeable future.
00:08:37.000Then we're going to have Robert Barnes in studio with follow-up coverage and some of the latest breaking stuff as it begins.
00:08:47.000But there's a couple things that are key to understanding.
00:08:54.000One is, there is no other media outlet that goes through what we go through.
00:09:00.000And that's not because we're criminals, that's not because we're bad people, that's not because we've done anything wrong, it's because we are really going head-to-head, toe-to-toe, intellectually, philosophically, politically, against the criminals that run this planet and have plans for world domination and depopulation.
00:09:19.000And they know we're one of the biggest threats standing in their way, just as a populist voice, as a voice of reason and truth and hope, and patriotism and everything else, and so that's why Infowars, or Alex Jones better yet, must be made an example of, must be destroyed.
00:09:40.000We've got a fantastic crew here, we've got an unbelievable multimedia operation here, but Crew probably hasn't been given a raise in a long time, and they try to get judgments against me, and they say, we're going to get millions of dollars out of Owen Schroer.
00:10:00.000We're going to get millions of dollars.
00:10:01.000Folks, I don't have millions of dollars.
00:10:05.000To be quite honest with you, I don't even have close to a million dollars.
00:10:08.000But see, they see what we do here, they see our audience size, and then they just do a compare.
00:10:15.000They compare to other people in media to see what they're making, and they say, there's no way Owen Schroer doesn't have a million dollars with his audience and what he's done.
00:10:22.000He has a million dollars, we're gonna find it, we're gonna get it.
00:10:25.000They do the research, they have all my records, they have everything.
00:10:46.000But I'd rather live in a free country with the opportunity for prosperity than to have all that momentarily.
00:10:56.000So just understand, there's a reason why Infowars is target number one.
00:10:59.000There's a reason why Alex Jones is in court today, in my opinion, fighting for not only his right to free speech, but for the rights of free speech for all Americans.
00:11:06.000Now, here's a basic recap and introduction from the Barnes Free podcast that we're going to be going to for the rest of the hour because, forget about my opinion, let's go to the legal experts who are covering this case.
00:11:23.000So here is the Barnes and Free podcast, just an introduction of what is coming up here, what Alex Jones, what InfoWars, what America is up against in the coming weeks in these important times, these perilous times for free speech, for InfoWars, and for America.
00:11:41.000We'll get to everything, but let's start with the Alex Jones trial coming up.
00:11:45.000I mean, we're going to go over some stuff that we've already talked about in the past.
00:11:49.000How is it that Jones has been declared guilty on the merits by default?
00:11:58.000So what I mean, the suit that is going to trial this week in Austin, Texas, in Travis County, is by two plaintiffs who were the parents of a child who died at Sandy Hook.
00:12:12.000They sued Alex Jones on theories of defamation and intentional infliction of emotional distress.
00:12:20.000Even though Alex Jones, as I recall, never mentioned them by name ever, or said factually specific things about them by name ever.
00:12:31.000So it was a unique case in that regard, but the Texas Austin Court of Appeals Uh, basically established a perilous new precedent for speech in media in America, which was that if you say something that the government doesn't agree with, and somebody is upset or offended by what you said, and they have some connection at any level to the event, then they, uh, then you can be sued for intentional infliction of emotional distress without actually targeting any speech at them individually.
00:13:03.000So that was the first extraordinary development in his case, in this case that's going to trial.
00:13:09.000The second one is the media mythology about the case, and often the plaintiff's lawyers repeatedly lie about the nature of the evidence in the case, is the mythology is that Alex Jones instigated and initiated and originated the hypothesis that Sandy Hook did not happen at all.
00:13:35.00099% of what InfoWars printed, published, or broadcast concerning Sandy Hook acknowledged and admitted that the event occurred, that the children died, that it took place, who the shooter was.
00:13:46.000The questions that InfoWars primarily, and it's Alex Jones primarily, raised concern the culpability of big pharma and whether SSRI drugs were the appropriate medication.
00:13:58.000The questions about the psychiatric treatment of young men in America.
00:14:01.000The celebratization of gun violence by gaming in Hollywood culture.
00:14:07.000And the potential culpability and complicity in local police response times and local politicians in the school safety arena providing adequate safety mechanisms for the children.
00:14:19.000And he said that they were going to wrongfully blame the gun and the law-abiding rights and Second Amendment rights of ordinary Americans as the culprit for these traumatic and tragic deaths.
00:14:33.000Midway through, several years after Sandy Hook, some callers would call in and they raised questions about whether the deaths happened at all.
00:14:42.000And Jones responded in a way that could be interpreted as agreeing with their comments.
00:14:48.000That is the primary basis of the suit.
00:14:51.000About, of the 7 million plus words broadcast, plus words broadcast or published by InfoWars and Alex Jones, They've taken about less than 30 minutes of words scattered out over a seven year timeframe and are saying that is the entire basis of their emotional trauma.
00:15:13.000What is the second significant factor about this case that is also extraordinary?
00:15:19.000Is that it's one of the only defamation cases ever brought where the plaintiffs did not timely seek a correction or retraction.
00:15:27.000Indeed, they didn't seek it until the eve of trial itself, the eve of suit itself.
00:15:32.000And so you have people saying that they were horribly traumatized by the words of Alex Jones, yet showed no evidence that they even heard the words of Alex Jones at the time.
00:15:42.000And if they were so traumatized, why didn't they write a single correction or retraction request for years?
00:15:50.000The other factor that's interesting about this case, Is that many of the plaintiffs involved are very political.
00:15:56.000They have people running for political office.
00:16:00.000They clearly oppose Alex Jones on political grounds.
00:16:04.000The lawyers involved are all highly political and have pursued this case for political reasons and have explicitly said their purpose of the suit is to try to shut down and censor Alex Jones for good.
00:16:19.000Major implications for amendment number one.
00:16:25.000Imagine you're in a courtroom to defend yourself and the judge says, shut up, you're not allowed to defend yourself.
00:16:47.000Let's hope it doesn't happen to Alex Jones.
00:16:49.000Here's more from the Barnes Free Podcast.
00:16:52.000Now what's even more extraordinary about this case Is that the Alex Jones is being prevented from presenting any substantive defense on the legal merits.
00:17:05.000He's not being allowed to defend himself on whether or not he said what they claim he said.
00:17:10.000He's not being allowed to defend the context in which those words were said.
00:17:14.000He's not allowed to present all everything else that he said.
00:17:19.000He is not even allowed to say that his conduct wasn't outrageous.
00:17:22.000He's not even allowed to say that he is innocent.
00:17:26.000He is not even allowed to say that he sees this as a First Amendment issue.
00:17:30.000In fact, the words First Amendment and free speech cannot even come out of his mouth or any witness's mouth or his lawyer's mouth through the entire trial.
00:17:40.000Not only that, the case is being limited to damages.
00:17:44.000And the judge has instructed that the jury is not allowed to hear from Alex Jones or his lawyers about whether the emotional trauma they'll hear about these parents suffering had something to do with the person who shot their kids.
00:18:00.000So the jury is going to be left with the impression that this horrible trauma that these parents have suffered, the only person they're being allowed to blame is Alex Jones.
00:18:11.000So it is, in addition, Alex Jones has been denied his rights to bring motions to dismiss, denied his right to bring motions under the strategic litigation against public participation law, denied his rights to bring summary judgment motions, denied his rights to appeal summary judgment motions, denied his rights in some cases to appeal a motion to dismiss.
00:18:32.000It is unparalleled and unprecedented, the sequence of actions that have taken place.
00:18:38.000This case makes a Stasi or Soviet style show trial look like an emblem of fairness by comparison.
00:18:45.000Last but not least, the judge presiding over the case here in Austin, Texas was identified in the press as previously working as private counsel associated with Children Protective Services.
00:18:57.000What I can tell you that typically means, don't know yet whether it means that it's to this judge, but typically that means a judge who defends pedophiles, a judge who defends child abusers.
00:19:09.000That's the judge presiding over the Alex Jones case.
00:19:12.000This case is a case where the American judicial system is really on trial.
00:19:17.000And unfortunately, the verdict looks like it will be a damnation of that system, even though the goal is to issue such a crazy verdict.
00:19:25.000That they are able to completely take Alex Jones off the air.
00:19:32.000I have so many, actually, because intentional infliction of emotional distress, conceptually, I can understand.
00:19:40.000They're already going through trauma because, and I want everyone to understand this, it's a horrible, horrible incident.
00:19:49.000It's beyond, it's horror of the purest form.
00:19:53.000Nothing about a defense of Alex Jones is intended to be construed as denying it happened, denying the trauma of everyone who survived that, and the parents who lost kids.
00:20:08.000Where the grotesqueness of the incident is not going to be somehow attenuated by railroading some podcaster radio host who might have said some things which could have been a little over the top from time to time, or even overtly over the top.
00:20:24.000The idea here is that you have Alex Jones is known for pushing the envelope of questioning narratives.
00:20:29.000Floating hypotheses which are tenable sometimes, untenable other times.
00:20:35.000The emotional distress Might have been aggravated.
00:20:38.000If someone comes out and says, you're lying, you never even had a kid, that can cause emotional distress.
00:20:43.000And if they do it at a loud enough bullhorn, they can cause emotional distress.
00:20:50.000Nonetheless, the idea to deny Alex the ability to defend, and this was purportedly on the basis for having defaulted or violated his obligations of disclosure under depositions.
00:21:04.000Yeah, I mean, what's amazing is Alex Jones has produced more documents and sat for more hours of more testimony, as have other people in the case, on behalf of InfoWars, than any media defendant I've ever heard of.
00:21:21.000And yet, even though he's turned over his text, he's turned over his emails, turned over stuff that was sent to a junk email box, turned over all kinds of documents and information, The, uh, they said that he didn't turn over enough and they called him default.
00:21:37.000Now here's the real secret behind this and why I predicted that this was a risk from day one, uh, during it.
00:21:43.000And for those out there, I am not currently representing Alex Jones, so I am free to speak my mind.
00:23:09.000I think he sat for like eight days or something.
00:23:11.000And that doesn't include everybody else for InfoWars who sat for day after day after day after day after day after day of deposition.
00:23:17.000They turned over emails that they shouldn't have even had to turn over.
00:23:21.000I mean, they were sent emails in their spam email where someone was trying to plant child CP on their computer system.
00:23:29.000And because they turned over all of their emails, anything they'd ever got, even if they'd never read it, then they were accused by the plaintiff's lawyers of sending CP to the families.
00:24:10.000This judge has not allowed him to defend himself on the substantive merits based on a made-up theory of the plaintiff's lawyers.
00:24:17.000That the judges knew was false, had reason to know was false, and in order to cover it up and punish and prosecute Alex Jones, they need to do this.
00:24:24.000And by the way everybody, people might say, why should I care?
00:24:27.000Alex Jones admits he made mistakes about his Sandy Hook reporting.
00:24:31.000Maybe these people out there don't like Alex Jones.
00:24:34.000Because folks, the same reason we talked about it in 2018 when they banned him from all the social media.
00:24:41.000Alex Jones is the example and they're coming for you next.
00:24:45.000And the legal theory they got approved in this case is that if you say anything that the government doesn't agree with, that somebody else feels emotionally offended by, they can now sue you into bankruptcy.
00:24:55.000And if Alex Jones is any example, you won't even get to defend yourself on the merits in front of a trial by jury.
00:26:30.000This case that Alex is going through now is the next test case.
00:26:34.000So just like we were all Alex Jones dealing with internet censorship, now we're all Alex Jones dealing with free speech rights and really just basic legal principles and justice in a courtroom.
00:26:48.000So everybody should be concerned about this case.
00:26:54.000Because people have to appreciate that he's been foreclosed from pleading on the basis of default for failure to produce documents, whatever.
00:27:39.000But the idea that, look, we know how agitators can work, how agent provocateur can work.
00:27:45.000Knowing what they wanted to do, get someone to call in, get them to run with it, you get the soundbite, and you get Alex Jones saying something like, crisis actors, which would imply that there were actually, their kids were not actually killed and that they're acting.
00:28:03.000What would be the quantum of the damages?
00:28:05.000It has to be realistically correlated to what's going on.
00:28:09.000Is the distressing part that somebody you're going to call a kook or a wacko says you're crisis actors and not the fact that your actual child was killed in this incident?
00:28:38.000I may be in and out of the courtroom, depending on circumstances.
00:28:42.000Again, I'm not official counsel of record for the Connecticut lawyers and others that may be listening out there, but I'm not going to be silenced just because they would like me to be.
00:29:03.000And more people should be more concerned with this case, regardless of what they think about Sadie Hook, regardless of what they think about Alex Jones.
00:29:10.000Because this is about the American judicial system looking like an embarrassment.
00:29:15.000Just like the January 6th cases, and as a good bridge, just like the disgrace of a case that was the Steve Bannon trial.
00:29:22.000And just one thing before we get there, Robert.
00:29:24.000Um, the idea that a lot of people had never heard of Alex Jones until Sandy Hook, a lot of people in the mainstream did it.
00:29:32.000And I remember I only knew vaguely of Alex Jones because Howard Stern made fun of him from time to time.
00:29:38.000So at the time of Sandy Hook, I do remember what Alex Jones was saying.
00:29:47.000Entertaining a caller talking about crisis actors.
00:29:51.000People are saying there were lies about Sandy Hook.
00:29:56.000I'll go with the plausible Scenario, now that we've lived through a Uvalde, that maybe the reason why they rushed to destroy the school was to hide the fact that it didn't have basic safety protocol.
00:30:06.000I can appreciate that argument, which some people might call conspiracy theory and others might just call liability theory.
00:30:14.000But most people didn't know about Alex Jones in the mainstream until this.
00:30:18.000It put him in the crosshairs and they're making an example of him.
00:30:21.000And the question is, Robert, I mean, what do you think is reasonable that can be expected by way of any condemnation for the quantum?
00:30:29.000Well, I see it as a threefold question, because one is the statute of limitations should have barred these claims.
00:30:34.000Texas law requires you to make a correction or retraction request before suit.
00:30:40.000So procedurally, this case never should have been brought, period.
00:30:42.000It should have been dismissed right out of the gate.
00:30:45.000Secondly, the constitutional requirement of colloquium means that you have to make a specific factual statement about a specifically identified individual.
00:30:53.000Now, sometimes you can identify that individual by image or by association rather than by name.
00:30:59.000But here, there were too many people involved for someone to be, for them to know that it was about that person.
00:31:16.000Here, there's no evidence that happened at all.
00:31:18.000There's no evidence that anybody in their community really believed that they were not real.
00:31:23.000And in fact, the very nature of saying someone's not real is not necessarily attacking that person because you're saying they're not real in the first place.
00:31:30.000You're saying that's somebody else up there.
00:31:31.000So this does not fit the definition of defamation.
00:31:34.000Procedurally, it never should have been allowed under the law.
00:31:38.000And constitutionally, it didn't meet the standard under the First Amendment right to protection of freedom of speech in the press.
00:31:43.000But I agree, the real story here was the reason why so many people were suspicious about what happened.
00:31:51.000Was in part because the Obama administration chose to politically weaponize it and politicize it?
00:31:57.000Uh, they said that, you know, people connected to them said they were going to stand on the, literally said they're going to stand on the graves of these dead kids to get gun control in America, to strip people of their Second Amendment rights.
00:32:07.000That led to a lot of people being suspect because of the history of government false flags when they try to take away people's rights.
00:32:13.000And the other aspect was the very peculiar behavior of the politicians in Connecticut who were hiding information from their sunshine laws.
00:32:21.000It turned out what they were hiding was pertinent to Yuvaldi.
00:32:26.000In that, because if the truth had come out, the politicians would have been, would have been properly judged and school safety would have dramatically improved in America, but gun control would have failed as an agenda.
00:32:39.000So they were willing to sacrifice more kids' lives to get gun control in America.
00:32:45.000And because what was it they didn't do?
00:32:47.000They didn't have a basic mechanism to lock the doors from the inside.
00:32:53.000And because they couldn't, I mean, they found the kids stacked up in bathrooms, folks.
00:32:58.000These kids would not have been dead had they had basic safety mechanisms in place.
00:33:03.000The school politicians, and they got away with it.
00:33:05.000And they got away with it because the courts let them get away with it.
00:33:08.000They got away with it because the Obama administration let them get away with it.
00:33:12.000They got away with it because the media let them get away with it.
00:33:15.000And part of this whole case is to blame Alex Jones for Sandy Hook, when it was the school politicians who led to Sandy Hook happening at the scale it did, and probably had something to do with Uvalde.
00:33:28.000They didn't want people raising questions about school safety.
00:33:32.000Don't ask any questions about whether the politicians stuffed cash in their pockets rather than spend it on kids' safety.
00:33:39.000They didn't want to ask questions about police response times.
00:33:42.000They didn't want questions about Big Pharma.
00:33:44.000They didn't want questions about the kid who committed the shooting, about his poor mental health treatment.
00:33:49.000They didn't want questions about being able to have guns, like the person in Indiana, constitutional carry.
00:33:55.000And he had Kyle Rittenhouse level accuracy.
00:33:57.000And that's why a lot of lives are alive today in Indiana, because he exercised that constitutional right to carry and took that guy out with some of the best shooting anybody's seen since Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:34:09.00015 seconds, 40 to 50 meters away with a handheld pistol, and the CNN ran the headline, an armed pedestrian, and not a damn hero, but okay.
00:35:21.000So, innocent until proven guilty, a cornerstone Of our legal system, a cornerstone of justice in this country, innocent till proven guilty, is being thrown out the window now.
00:35:39.000So whether you love Alex Jones or you hate Alex Jones, if you don't understand the implications of saying innocent till proven guilty no longer applies here, innocent till proven guilty, we're going to take that cornerstone out of our Justice and Legal System Foundation.
00:36:00.000If you don't understand how that hurts you, if you don't understand how that goes beyond Alex Jones, whether you love him or hate him, then you have been blinded.
00:37:00.000Not understanding how Alex's fate is their own fate.
00:37:04.000So we go back to the legal experts now, again, on why people should be concerned about this case.
00:37:12.000So I'm here to defend Alex Jones in the court of public opinion, because I believe in him, because Alex Jones is innocent of a lot of the claims that have been made against him.
00:37:25.000And when we get to damages, even if you say, OK, I think this case should have gone on.
00:37:31.000I don't believe in the constitutional defense.
00:37:33.000I don't believe in the procedural defense.
00:37:34.000I don't believe in the statutory rights.
00:38:19.000But for those that did suffer a horrible trauma, yeah, that's terrible.
00:38:23.000It doesn't give you the right to line your pockets with other people's money.
00:38:26.000For trauma, you know you didn't really suffer because of what they said.
00:38:29.000And it doesn't give you the right to take away other people's rights, the freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and the Second Amendment, just because you don't like what happened.
00:38:39.000And so, at some point, trauma, this victim identification idea, that, hey, I'm a victim, I'm now morally superior.
00:38:47.000I'm a victim, now I get to dictate to everybody what's going to happen with their rights.
00:38:51.000Now I get to demand money from other people, like reparations, like other things.
00:38:54.000I don't agree with that as a fundamental premise.
00:38:57.000And it scared too many people off from defending Alex Jones in these cases, because they're like, jeez, I don't want to be on the side against the Sandy Hook parents.
00:39:07.000And I'm just, I'm tired of it, to be honest with you.
00:39:09.000No, no, and Robert, I can tell you, like, the pushback I got from even the prospect of having Alex Jones on for a sidebar with you, people just, they have a misconception of Alex Jones to begin with, but setting that aside, one thing I want to touch on.
00:39:25.000I remember at the time, The parents who were suing and the plaintiffs who were suing said that they were receiving harassment.
00:39:32.000They were getting stalked and doxxed and harassed by people who were incited or influenced or motivated by Alex Jones's discourse.
00:39:42.000I remember hearing it at the time and just taking it for granted.
00:39:46.000But now I wonder in retrospect whether or not that was accurate.
00:39:52.000So like Megyn Kelly once reported, it's in the new Alex's War documentary, which is a pretty solid documentary, which I saw this weekend at the premiere with Alex and some other folks.
00:40:02.000It's not a pro-Alex documentary, but it's a pretty reasonable one in terms of being balanced and appropriate.
00:40:08.000But in that documentary, it repeated what Megyn Kelly had said, where a defense lawyer for someone had blamed InfoWars for this person stalking somebody that was connected to Sandy Hook.
00:40:21.000Problem is, if you dig into the record, that wasn't really true.
00:40:24.000That was a defense lawyer looking for an excuse that he thought a liberal judge would buy as to go down on sentencing.
00:40:31.000InfoWars, because, and how you would know that?
00:40:34.000Because if you actually followed and read InfoWars at the time, you knew that Paul Joseph Watson, the editor of InfoWars, was always critical of anybody who raised questions about Sandy Hook.
00:40:44.000You knew how often InfoWars said Sandy Hook happened.
00:40:46.000You knew that through most of the time period, Alex Jones always said InfoWars said that Sandy Hook happened.
00:40:51.000So you knew how that was an exceptional and occasional and rare and not customary opinion.
00:40:57.000So you knew that his people weren't behind any of it.
00:41:01.000My guess is they will not produce one person who will say that they did anything bad directly to the Sandy Hook people because of Alex Jones and Enforce.
00:41:11.000And they've had years to develop the evidence.
00:41:13.000Over 10 years now, there'll be zero evidence to support that media myth.
00:41:18.000Robert, I'm going to bring up Little Rocks.
00:41:24.000I have been this way for a few years on other issues I've seen in the Eighth Circuit.
00:41:28.000If you can, or have time, tell us why 80% of attorneys are Democrat.
00:41:33.000Yeah, I mean, I was talking to a friend of mine here in Austin about some cases of his that have gone crazy.
00:41:39.000And it's because the lawyers are overwhelmingly from the professional managerial class that thinks they're God's gift to the universe, that thinks they're here to tell you what to do in your life.
00:41:50.000That's how they handle their own cases and clients.
00:41:53.000And they think they're right, and they think they should govern the rest of us.
00:41:57.000Just read Gorsuch's wonderful footnote in his concurring opinion in West Virginia vs. EPA, where he describes this was Woodrow Wilson's mindset in the 19-teens.
00:42:07.000This has been the progressive, so-called progressive movement, was always a professional, managerial class movement to govern the rest of us.
00:42:14.000And as Mark Grobaer recently pointed out, On his answering questions about the JFK assassination with Eric Hunley, on America's Untold Stories, where you can find on YouTube, and at unstructured.locals.com, where they put up a lot of inside information, text, a whole bunch of stuff.
00:42:37.000We will be live with them probably a week from Friday for the monthly Freeform Friday Show that's always fun and educational, sometimes in surprising ways.
00:42:47.000But as he pointed out, in Eisenhower's farewell address, One of the things he highlighted was not just the military-industrial complex, but he said this new professional class, managerial class running things is probably a problem because of how they will arrogate power to themselves for arrogance.
00:43:07.000That's how lawyers are taught and trained.
00:43:09.000That's the socioeconomic class that they currently occupy.
00:43:12.000That's the class that they come from, overwhelmingly.
00:43:15.000Very few working class kids go to law school these days.
00:43:18.000And so those of us who are more populist or people oriented or little d democratic oriented, unfortunately, we are the rare exception, as Little Rock mentions, in the practice and profession of law.
00:43:31.000It's why people like Alex Jones have such trouble even finding lawyers willing to defend him.
00:43:37.000And I have been the only lawyer willing to defend him in the court of public opinion.
00:43:40.000And I was doing it before I was his lawyer.
00:43:44.000I've done it after I was no longer his legal counsel in these cases.
00:45:40.000I'm going to plug one of your products.
00:45:42.000I listen all the time, and I heard this guy talking about the iodine supplement, X2, saying, well, he's been taking it, and his memory's getting better, and he's having dreams.
00:47:47.000They're lying to you because they think you're stupid.
00:47:51.000And it's all based on the custody battle with my ex-wife five years ago.
00:47:56.000And she was trying to put into evidence me dressed up more than a decade before, like the Joker, being sarcastic, saying, take your Prozac, kids.
00:49:26.000I was an actor when I was Cobra Commander.
00:49:31.000But it doesn't mean that Alex Jones, the talk show host, up here reading news articles to you isn't a real thing and isn't something I'm actually saying.
00:51:27.000He's just here as just independent legal commentary, let's just say.
00:51:35.000And so I want to kind of do a simulation in the next segment of what would your opening statements be just as a lawyer that's neutral, not involved in this case.
00:51:44.000But before we do that, it's hard to really Talk about the implications of this case, right?
00:52:07.000It's kind of a hard thing to foresight.
00:52:09.000But now we have a test case with the censorship, and I think a test case with what's going on in court.
00:52:15.000How do we properly lay out the implications of the results of this court case with Alex Jones so that the American public doesn't get bamboozled into thinking, hey, if we get Alex Jones scalped, that's a victory.
00:52:29.000But to understand, no, there's much bigger implications for the average American and for the country than just Alex Jones or Alex Jones-like people or supporters.
00:52:39.000I mean, this case is about the power of the American judicial system to strip you of all of your core rights and liberties when somebody accuses you of doing something wrong.
00:52:47.000Because if they can do it to Alex Jones, just like what happened with social media, they can do it to you.
00:52:52.000And the goal is to prove that they can strip you of all of your rights of due process of law.
00:52:56.000Those rights include the rights to bring things like motions to dismiss, motions for anti-slap motions, motions for summary judgment, your right to seek discovery, your right of privacy against invasive discovery.
00:53:09.000All of those rights have been violated in the case of Alex Jones and every court that has adjudicated these Sandy Hook cases, both in Austin, Texas and in Connecticut.
00:53:18.000They've also stripped him of his right to appeal some of those rulings.
00:53:21.000A right to an appeal and anti-slap motion in the case of Connecticut.
00:53:24.000A right to appeal a summary judgment motion in the case of Texas.
00:53:28.000Not only that, they've also now stripped him of his right to trial by jury.
00:53:32.000There's a reason why the Magna Carta's fundamental assertion, the most critical, essential, procedural right to guarantee substantive freedoms and liberties, was the right to trial by jury.
00:53:45.000He is not allowed to have a right of trial by jury on the substantive merits of the suit.
00:53:49.000He is not even allowed to have a right of trial by jury on many issues that are legally related to whether or not he caused any damages to the people seeking relief in the court.
00:54:00.000And that's going to keep going further, as we probably will see and witness in the jury selection process.
00:54:05.000The court is likely to preclude and exclude those jurors who are capable of being impartial, and try to stack the jury with prejudiced jurors who have a preconceived conclusion about the case, further inflamed by the judge's ruling.
00:54:19.000So this is about, does the rule of law still govern in America?
00:54:22.000Do you still have a right of trial by jury?
00:54:24.000Do you have a right of due process of law?
00:54:28.000Because if they strip those rights from Alex Jones, you're next.
00:54:31.000Just like happened in the social media context.
00:54:36.000What happens in the court of public opinion now with the power of the mainstream media, which is just totally allied with the Democrat Party.
00:54:42.000I mean, you want to talk about collusion, you want to talk about fascism, there it is, the media and the Democrat Party, where I have friends, and this is what I say is the power of it, I have friends that know me, have known me my entire life.
00:54:53.000And they'll find some media story about me, and if they even have the courage, they'll send it to me and say, hey, what's going on?
00:54:59.000But more often the case is, they see it and they start talking with other people about how I'm bad and how I did this and they can't believe I would do this stuff.
00:55:09.000You know me, and they still fall for the propaganda.
00:55:11.000They still say, oh wow, Owen Troy I've known him my whole life, no he's not this, no he's not that, but oh my gosh, I just saw this hit piece and now everything changes my mind.
00:55:19.000So I've seen in real time how the court of public opinion can be swayed so easily with the propaganda media.
00:55:26.000But, here's an example, and I think this is kind of a, it'll tell us where we're at as far as how it impacts the legal system.
00:55:33.000Now this might be a stretch, because the cases are obviously different, but I look at the O.J.
00:55:45.000Because in that process, police planted evidence, tampered with the crime scene, and the judge said, I'm not, like, that's it!
00:55:55.000He could be guilty of sin, but the fact that you tampered with evidence, the fact that you planted evidence, you tampered with the crime scene, I can't listen to anything, you can't be trusted, the case is done.
00:56:04.000Simpson, guilty in the court of public opinion, but because the way the actual legal system works and the prosecutors blew the case, the police blew the case, O.J.
00:56:15.000So now I think we have kind of the different thing where They want to build the court of opinion of guilty against Alex Jones, but then in the process, doesn't even matter!
00:56:25.000Doesn't matter what they find in the process.
00:56:27.000He's guilty, we're going to rule him guilty.
00:56:28.000The decision is not whether he's innocent or guilty, but how guilty he is.
00:56:46.000The courts Are so scared and terrified of even a liberal democratic jury hearing the actual evidence in the case that they are preventing Alex Jones from giving them any of that evidence, even making argument about it, even asking questions about it.
00:57:02.000So what's going to happen in this case is they're going to try to rig the jury pool, and after they try to rig the jury pool, they're going to tell the jury the only evidence the jury is going to be allowed to hear is the trauma of the plaintiff.
00:57:13.000Trauma that doesn't relate to Alex Jones.
00:57:16.000But Alex Jones' lawyers will not even be allowed to ask them whether something else might have caused their trauma.
00:57:22.000Or whether or not many of these people have been all over TV news all over the place.
00:57:27.000So, I mean, did public discussion of their name concern them when they were publicly disclosing their own name everywhere?
00:57:34.000So, but those questions can't even be asked!
00:57:36.000You can't ask the same honest questions you could in any other courtroom in America and any other comparable case in America.
00:57:42.000This is all unparalleled and unprecedented.
00:57:44.000There is no example of denying a party their ability to say, hey, I'm innocent.
00:57:50.000Denying a party saying, hey, I didn't cause you those injuries.
00:57:56.000Hey, by the way, I didn't do 90% of the things that you think I did.
00:58:00.000So, I mean, for example, Watch, in this trial there will be no evidence, this is my prediction right now, there will be no evidence that anybody stalked or directly harassed any of these plaintiffs at the demand or request of Alex Jones.
00:58:12.000That will turn out to have been a huge lie.
00:58:15.000Well they don't want the world to know that's a huge lie.
00:58:35.000And that's precisely what this case looks like.
00:58:37.000And it is a disgrace to the rule of law.
00:58:39.000And people have asked why do I speak out about it when I don't represent Infowars, I don't represent Alex Jones.
00:58:44.000This is my own independent opinion on the subject.
00:58:46.000It is because it is an outrage to the rule of law that should scare and terrify every American that this can happen.
00:58:52.000And we need to call it out in the court of a public opinion, expose it for the fraud on the law that it is, so that we ultimately maybe can get justice to the legislative process or the appellate process.
00:59:03.000Well, and it's like a bait-and-switch, or like Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, when he has to take the gold trinket out and put the bag on it, where it's like, okay, here's somebody that's suffering greatly because the loss of life, suffering greatly because of a tragedy, and that's there on the podium, and you say, look, they're suffering, this is a horrible tragedy, but then you, oop, take that away and put Alex Jones there and say, see?
00:59:25.000Alex Jones is the reason you're suffering!
00:59:46.000They're not allowed to hear or see anything else.
00:59:48.000And this is after rigging everything else that goes into the case, in terms of procedure, in terms of substantive law, in terms of jury selections.
00:59:55.000And so, like, it wouldn't surprise me if you have a juror get up there and say, hold on a second, we're only here in order to judge?
01:00:16.000This is a true witch trial, Salem style.
01:00:19.000Except there is no substantive merits behind many of the allegations and accusations raised.
01:00:24.000Now I do want to do a kind of simulation mock opening statement with Bob Barnes today, but I actually want to stick on that comment when we come back, because the jury selection process here is obviously going to be extremely important, maybe even the most important part, quite frankly, considering how this is going to go.
01:00:41.000We're going to do a simulated opening statement from Bob Barnes eventually with us here today, but let's come back and talk about the jury selection process, because most people don't even understand how that works.
01:00:51.000All right, we're going to do a mock, kind of simulated opening statement here with Bob Barnes as we continue on the Alex Jones Show.
01:00:58.000But I want to stick with the process of jury selection, something a lot of Americans aren't really aware of.
01:01:04.000They don't understand how it goes down.
01:01:06.000They don't understand the importance, the implication.
01:01:08.000I just so happen to have worked for lawyers and been in jury selection process twice, so I kind of have an idea of what goes on.
01:01:16.000And for a lot of cases, Jury selection really is the most important part of the case, and it might not seem that way, but really it is, especially with trial cases that end up with a jury verdict, which is what could be the case for Alex Jones here.
01:01:31.000So, we're in the process of the jury selection right now, Bob.
01:01:35.000Just kind of go through the basics, just legal 101, what is the jury selection process like, and then Why is it so important?
01:01:44.000Why do lawyers and judges really spend a lot of time making sure they get the jury selection process right?
01:01:50.000Well, it reflects an old principle that I like to say, which is motivation is the master of reason, reason is not the master of motivation.
01:01:57.000What that means is if you want to improve your reasoning, shift your motivation.
01:02:00.000Theoretically, that's what we're taught as lawyers to do, though increasingly your woke crowd is not even capable of doing so.
01:02:07.000It means jurors come in with preordained beliefs about your case.
01:02:11.000They often are not consciously aware of their own beliefs.
01:02:14.000Some are, and some will lie to get on the jury, as has, I think, happened in the Steve Bannon trial, and happened in the Roger Stone trial.
01:02:20.000But some just don't, are not aware of their bias.
01:02:23.000You know, it's like, if you meet a certain kind of person, if you meet somebody that's a woke liberal on the issues related to this case, as an example.
01:02:43.000Your classic sort of COVID Karen kind of personality.
01:02:46.000That kind of person is not going to be an impartial jury.
01:02:49.000But they will often say they are and some of them actually may think they will be.
01:02:53.000So that's the first reality is that the jury is the one to make the decisions and jurors come in with preconceptions and preconceived biases that will often shape the case and they will filter evidence in accordance with it.
01:03:18.000Now, why do we have trial by jury in America?
01:03:20.000It's because it was first established in the Magna Carta.
01:03:22.000It was an old principle, which is, you should only be tried by the other members of your community who can fairly and fully assess what you've done, whether it was right or wrong, and what injury it may have caused, and what remedy is appropriate and proportionate.
01:03:37.000So that goes all the way back to the Magna Carta.
01:03:39.000It's in the 7th Amendment to the United States Constitution.
01:03:41.000It's applied to the states through the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution, the Civil Rights Amendments, and then the states have their own constitutional protections for trial by jury, as both Connecticut and Texas do.
01:03:53.000And what it means is on any question that is about whether you were morally right, whether you caused injury, what the remedy for injury would be, a jury is supposed to decide that.
01:04:02.000Now, historically in America, juries were allowed to decide sentences as well as whether somebody committed a crime.
01:04:09.000They're able to decide the law as well as the so-called facts.
01:04:13.000The court system has usurped that from the jury because leave it to the courts to say, ah, we think we should have that exclusive power, not the jury.
01:04:22.000And because the only party around to enforce the right to trial by jury are the courts themselves, surprise, surprise, courts decided to monopolize that part of the power, the power to determine law to themselves.
01:04:32.000So now in America, jurors only get to decide, because of the court system, the facts.
01:04:37.000But in the case of Alex Jones, they're not even being allowed to hear those facts in order to determine those facts.
01:04:42.000Now, the other important part of jury selection is you're entitled to an impartial jury.
01:04:47.000So the jury's supposed to represent the venue that you're from, the community, a fair representation of the local communities, part one.
01:04:55.000Part two is they're supposed to be impartial.
01:04:58.000In other words, they don't come in with a preconceived bias in the case.
01:05:02.000The reality is very few jurors in America are even capable of being impartial in most politically motivated cases.
01:05:10.000And so in a case like this, the jurors' preconceived political bias will heavily shape whether they can be impartial or not.
01:05:18.000The reality is even Alex Jones fans are actually much more capable of being impartial in this case because they're willing to see whether he did right or wrong, whether an injury happened, and whether remedy is appropriate.
01:05:29.000They're not willing to listen to the evidence, they're not willing to judge it impartially, they're not willing to make a judgment consistent with the facts and the law.
01:05:36.000And so, the hard part for Alex Jones lawyers in court today is, can you find an impartial jury in Austin, Texas?
01:05:44.000When there's been all this inflammatory, prejudicial coverage in the media.
01:05:48.000Because that's the other aspect that's important in your right to an impartial jury that's representative of the community includes your right to a jury that hasn't heard about the case outside of the case that has biased them in certain conclusions.
01:06:02.000And that is a critical and equally essential component of your right, constitutional right to trial by jury, because in the end, it's constitutional democracy preserved.
01:06:12.000How do we best protect our freedoms and liberties?
01:06:25.000Do we give power to appellate or Supreme Court or district court judges?
01:06:30.000Do we give power to the executive branch?
01:06:32.000Do we give power to the legislative branch?
01:06:34.000Or do we instead give power to 12 ordinary everyday people who will impartially judge the facts and morality of the case and come to a conclusion and judgment of the community?
01:06:45.000Our forefathers said the only people we could really trust To protect our freedom, to protect our liberty, is an impartial 12 members of our local community.
01:06:54.000That's why trial by jury is so essential.
01:07:00.000It's about the future of freedom and liberty in America.
01:07:03.000And just kind of a practical example of this, when I first was selected for jury duty, it was a gentleman who got caught with, I think it was some crack cocaine or something in the streets of St.
01:07:57.000So he's like, you should probably just say the word jury nullification a couple times Just slide it in there and they won't put you on the jury.
01:08:10.000Now, the one question I have here, and you can answer this quickly because I don't hear it brought up often, but...
01:08:15.000What about even the jury duty process?
01:08:18.000I mean, is there a chance that that could be rigged?
01:08:21.000Is there a chance like Bannon's case, Stone's case, or any other cases where they could make sure that even in the jury duty selection that they kind of even have a impartial just base to choose from?
01:10:40.000The real reason, and what everybody really kind of wanted to know, is what exactly happened in the case of Sandy Hook?
01:10:46.000And what jurors mostly don't know, what most ordinary people don't know, is what happened in terms of the cover-up of Sandy Hook by politicians connected to Sandy Hook.
01:10:57.000And why people were suspicious of what was going on at Sandy Hook.
01:11:00.000The reason was because the school system had pocketed money meant for school safety.
01:11:06.000And in fact they did not even have the mechanisms and means in place for the teachers to be able to lock their doors to prevent a shooter from coming in the room.
01:11:16.000Or even coming into the bathroom where some of them within the classroom also didn't have a lock on the door where they could even try to keep the children safe.
01:11:25.000That big lie about the local politicians keeping the schools safe when they had not, when they had failed a fundamental test, was the number one thing the politicians in Sandy Hook had to cover up.
01:11:36.000And they had the willing complicity of the press, the willing complicity of the Obama White House.
01:11:42.000Because they wanted the blame to all shift to the gun and the gun manufacturer and Second Amendment rights in America.
01:11:50.000That being the cause of the traumatic, tragic death of these young children.
01:11:55.000Rather than politicians pocketing money meant for school safety and failing to employ effective school safety mechanisms that would come to haunt Americans in other places all across the country because of those schools' lack of effective school safety systems in years to come.
01:12:12.000And because of it, they covered up information related to Open Records Act, Sunshine Laws, FOIA requests, etc.
01:12:19.000And that, in turn, triggered a lot of people's concerns and questions that led them down, often, the erroneous path as to what had happened in Sandy Hook.
01:12:28.000But people asking questions as to what was really going on and what really happened is something we should want to have happen in America.
01:12:35.000We shouldn't want to discourage and dissuade asking basic core questions about big public events that impact things as important as the school safety of young children.
01:12:48.000We're here in this case because the objective is to blame Alex Jones for the horrifying tragedy and trauma that occurred in Sandy Hook.
01:12:58.000But Alex Jones wasn't the person who decided not to use school safety mechanisms effectively.
01:13:03.000Alex Jones isn't the person who decided not to lock the doors or even provide a means to lock the doors for school children.
01:13:10.000Alex Jones isn't the one who failed to have an effective school safety response system or school safety personnel located at the scene.
01:13:17.000Alex Jones is not the one that is the one who pulled the trigger.
01:13:21.000Alex Jones is not the one who, in fact Alex Jones was the one, exposing questions about big pharma and poor mental health of young disturbed men in America.
01:13:30.000Alex Jones was the one talking about the glorification of violence in video games and in aspects of Hollywood that is meant to create these kind of problems rather than cure these kind of problems.
01:13:41.000Alex Jones is the one talking about the necessity for school safety to be real and meaningful, and that often means having good people with guns available to defend against bad people with guns.
01:14:51.000Instead, just blame Alex Jones because he asked questions and some of the questions didn't turn out to be right, but some of them turned out to be very right.
01:15:02.000And it's the attempt to say that any emotional trauma experienced by anybody connected to that tragedy is solely and wholly the fault of Alex Jones.
01:15:11.000When Alex Jones isn't the reason why that Sandy Hook happened, just like Alex Jones isn't the real reason we're here.
01:15:17.000We're here because this case is about your right to ask questions, your right to demand answers, your right to get meaningful remedies.
01:15:42.000So the only verdict is a verdict that affirms our right to ask questions, that affirms our right to demand answers, and that affirms the right to meaningful school safety protection in America.
01:15:52.000And that is not aided by suppressing those questions, censoring those answers, or putting Alex Jones in a permanent gag box.
01:16:06.000And that means a zero verdict against Alex Jones.
01:16:09.000Now, let's think about the precedent that could be set here.
01:16:14.000Now, there might not be a law written, right?
01:16:17.000But, oh, Alex Jones questions a major event, his entire life is destroyed, his company is destroyed, he's bankrupted, we all know the story.
01:17:16.000So we have all... This is just modern history.
01:17:18.000I mean, we're not even getting into the Gulf of Tonkin and other false flags that have led to wars.
01:17:24.000I think the USS Liberty and all these other incidents.
01:17:27.000So, setting the precedent of someone gets to run propaganda, someone gets to run with a lie, you don't get to question it, and then that propaganda, that lie, is able to influence policy, which is then able to influence permanent law, and it's all based off a false flag, it's all based off of a lie.
01:17:44.000So, if they can set that precedent in this case, whether they have to write laws or not, There's going to be major impact when it comes to free speech and media coverage of big events in this country, and quite frankly, the world, depending on how this case goes.
01:18:01.000And for people to understand out there, just look at what the Texas Court of Appeals said.
01:18:04.000They said, and you look at some of the questions that Alex Jones has been asked, it's if you question any narrative approved by the government, and anybody feels offended Uh, has hurt feelings over your questioning the institutional narrative.
01:18:17.000They can now sue you into bankruptcy because they don't like your questions.
01:18:22.000And the, it is much more important to have the right to question than it is to preclude people from asking the wrong questions.
01:18:30.000And that's what this case is all about.
01:18:32.000Just because somebody doesn't get every question right, doesn't get every answer right, is no reason, is no justification to stop them from asking questions and demanding answers in the first place.
01:18:42.000For all the great historical reasons we know about.
01:18:45.000What if you couldn't ask about whether vaccines were really safe and effective?
01:18:48.000What if you couldn't ask about whether a war is really justified or necessary?
01:20:15.000I could, I could go right now and I could present dozens, maybe even hundreds of cases of articles and videos and all this stuff of how I've been defamed.
01:20:27.000Lies about me, hit pieces against me, they're everywhere.
01:20:30.000Now I've brought this to lawyers and you know what the challenge is?
01:20:33.000They say, okay, well, there's no doubt that there's an aspect of defamation here.
01:20:38.000The problem is, how do you prove losses in court?
01:20:41.000How do you prove that because somebody said this or somebody said that, even if they know they're lying, even if it's clearly false information, How do you prove financial damages in court?
01:20:51.000Because that's really what the defamation law comes down to, right?
01:20:57.000We're going to give you a reward for the damages.
01:21:00.000So, sure, I could go into a court of law, present dozens of cases of how I've been defamed, but then how do I equate that to potential lost earnings?
01:21:09.000Because that's one of the hardest things to prove.
01:21:11.000Potential lost earnings is one of the hardest things to prove, so you don't really see that in the court of law very often.
01:21:18.000Generally speaking, that's how I understand defamation.
01:21:22.000What's your understanding and background of being involved in the legal process for decades of defamation, and then how does it apply modern day, and how do you see its application changing over the years?
01:21:36.000So I've been doing this work on both sides, plaintiffs and defense side, in the defamation context because of its constitutional implications for freedom of press, freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom of association, for the better part of a quarter century.
01:21:59.000They ended up being subject to death threats and firebombing.
01:22:02.000Something that was a really direct connection compared to what I think the evidence will show in this case involving Alex Jones and Sandy Hook.
01:22:17.000Those kids are having to go through the appellate process, going to have to go through the legislative reform process to ever get meaningful remedy.
01:22:24.000Yet here, in the Sandy Hook cases, they've obliterated all of those rules limiting the constitutional scope of defamation.
01:22:32.000So what's what, so defamation is supposed to be when you make a specifically false statement of fact about a specifically identified individual that leads, that causes them both emotional harm and reputational harm in their local community.
01:22:50.000And that you do so with a certain state of mind, a certain mens rea, what is usually called malice.
01:22:57.000And in this case it's reckless disregard of the truth.
01:23:00.000That you knew at the time you made the statement basically that the statement wasn't true or likely to be true about that individual.
01:23:08.000Now look at this, and there's the constitutional requirement of what's called colloquium.
01:23:13.000This goes all the way back to the New York Times versus Sullivan.
01:23:15.000This is why I don't believe any of the cases against Alex Jones, should he even be in court, in a constitutionally honest court, would have thrown out these cases years ago.
01:24:26.000In the Sandy Hook cases, and almost all of them, there's no allegation that Alex Jones said a specifically false fact about a specific individual.
01:25:10.000So they have made special standards for Alex Jones.
01:25:13.000Not only is he not allowed due process of law, not only is he not allowed trial by jury, not only is he not allowed to say he's innocent in a case, not only is he not allowed to an impartial jury process, he's also not allowed to have the same constitutional and tort protections that have applied to everybody from time immemorial in terms of governing libel laws.
01:25:33.000So that's why it goes to anybody could be put at risk now.
01:25:36.000So you go out there and you make a statement.
01:25:38.000About that can be a reference to a broad group of people.
01:25:41.000So let's say you go out there and say, you know what?
01:25:47.000Now, somebody who feels injured by that can now, under existing Texas law, the Alex Jones exception to the First Amendment, the Alex Jones exception to the Constitution, the Alex Jones exception to due process, the Alex Jones exception to trial by jury, Now suddenly you can be individually and separately sued for any hurt emotions they feel and they can pick a politicized venue that is weaponized against you in the judicial and jury process.
01:26:13.000And that is why this case is so dangerous and consequential.
01:26:16.000Because constitutionally it puts the First Amendment at risk.
01:26:19.000Constitutionally, it puts due process at risk.
01:26:22.000Constitutionally, it puts the right to trial by jury at risk.
01:26:24.000But also, it's gutting the purpose and principle of defamation law.
01:26:27.000And the real purpose is to make government-identified misinformation.
01:26:32.000In other words, what people in power call misinformation, to allow individuals to weaponize the legal system, to allow individuals to sue you into oblivion and bankruptcy, into permanent censorship and suppression of information, because you are a dissident.
01:26:47.000It is basically converting defamation law into dissident heresy laws.
01:26:53.000Basically, Alex Jones is on trial for heresy.
01:26:57.000And that's what they're trying to do to everybody, ultimately, using Alex Jones as the means to do so.
01:27:03.000And it's not consistent with defamation law.
01:27:05.000It's not consistent with the Constitution.
01:27:07.000But hey, if it puts money in my pocket, and if it hurts my political opposition, then oh, let's do it anyway.
01:27:13.000Now here's what I'm concerned about, because here's the pattern that I've seen, is that defamation is just going to become another legal tool for the Democrat Party to destroy its opposition.
01:27:24.000Basically, only one side of the aisle gets to use it.
01:28:02.000It's going to be a one-side selective means of prosecution and suppression.
01:28:06.000What it is, it's recreating the old church, recreating old heresy trials, and being able to lock up dissident thinkers, suppress dissident thinkers, censor dissident thinkers, using lawfare, weaponized lawfare, to do it.
01:28:18.000As I've told people, Alex Jones was in business for 25 years, never faced a meaningful lawsuit of any kind.
01:28:24.000Then Donald J. Trump wins office to the presidency of the United States.
01:28:27.000People realize how influential Alex Jones' audience is.
01:28:31.000So they decide to try to take out the audience by trying to take out Alex Jones.
01:28:36.000And that's why I say the front line to Alex Jones that was supposed to break is you, the audience.
01:28:41.000It's people who continue to go to InfoWars store and make themselves healthier, wealthier, and wiser by buying products that are good for them, that keep Alex Jones on the air.
01:28:52.000You were supposed to fold, you were supposed to capitulate, you were supposed to, when you heard Revere's cry, supposed to hide under your bed, not get your musket and get out and ready to defend the country.
01:29:01.000Because ordinary everyday people have rallied to the cry of Alex Jones and defend Alex Jones.
01:29:07.000The only way they're going to censor and suppress Alex Jones is if they stop his heart from beating.
01:29:11.000Because as long as his heart is beating, freedom and Alex Jones will stay alive.
01:29:14.000And that's only possible because you, the audience, helped make it possible.
01:29:18.000Bob Barnes, he is going to be here with us covering the legal case all week, so he'll be popping in and out.
01:29:45.000And if we don't turn it around soon, then it will only get worse.
01:29:49.000But as bad as things are, we still have time to prepare.
01:29:54.000And that alone is something to be grateful for.
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01:30:04.000And having your own food will save you from getting ensnared in government FEMA camps.
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01:30:17.000Some of your neighbors might not be prepared for what's coming, but you can help them by having an abundance of storable foods and water filtration.
01:30:27.000Whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully.
01:30:32.000Stock up now at preparetoday.com The Bannon conviction, if this is treated like an ordinary case, two misdemeanors in the District of Columbia, at most probation.
01:30:47.000What do you think of this verdict and what do you think of what's likely to happen to him?
01:30:51.000Entirely predictable and entirely in violation of the Constitution.
01:30:55.000The only provision of the Constitution, which appears basically twice, is trial by jury in front of a fair jury.
01:32:56.000It is living under a kind of totalitarian culture which has never existed in my lifetime and is much worse in many ways than the Soviet Union before Gorbachev.
01:33:12.000Go back to the 1970s, people in Soviet Russia could access BBC, Voice of America, German television, if they wanted to find out the news.
01:33:27.000If today, in the United States, you want to find out what Prime Minister Lavrov of Russia is saying, Can't do it.
01:33:50.000That means also that fine American journalists, like Chris Hedges, one of the best, is cut out, barred from Americans, because he happens to have a program running on RT, Russian television.
01:34:04.000You want to find out what The adversary is sane, which is of utmost importance.
01:34:11.000You can maybe tune into Indian state television and find it out.
01:34:19.000But the United States has imposed constraints on freedom of access to information, which are astonishing, and which in fact go beyond what was the case in Post-Stalinist Soviet Russia.
01:34:39.000I mean, even Alan Dershowitz, even Noam Chomsky, Russell Brand, these are classical liberals, well known as being on the liberal side of the political spectrum, but they see the danger of what's happening in the U.S.
01:34:52.000right now, and let's just call it what it is.
01:34:54.000It's the Democrat Party, it's the American left, turning into a Stalinistic, Hitler-esque, authoritarian regime, and that's what's going on.
01:35:04.000And so anybody in denial of that is only welcoming their own demise.
01:35:08.000Anybody in denial of that is only welcoming the own shackles that are going to be put on their legs and arms and mind.
01:35:16.000No, it's dangerous where things are going in this country.
01:35:19.000And our only hope is that Americans realize it soon enough to stop us from going down this dark path.
01:35:26.000All right, ladies and gentlemen, I've done now two hours Of one of the most important transmissions of InfoWars history, and I'm sure considering the current news cycle and one of the biggest stories ongoing right now, I'm sure our audience number is up today.
01:36:21.000I mean, if you saw the legal bills that we have to pay here, and I'm not even complaining.
01:36:26.000I mean, obviously, I like our lawyers, but it's like, I'm at the premiere of Alex's War this weekend, and, you know, a bunch of people are coming up to me, and it's like a bunch of lawyers coming up to me, and I'm just with other friends and other people.
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01:41:23.000I am going to be hosting the War Room today, and so you see I've got a lot of news on my desk here.
01:41:29.000I haven't even covered a single news story yet.
01:41:32.000I'm going to be doing most of my news coverage coming up on The War Room today at 3 o'clock.
01:41:36.000So if you're looking for the daily news, 3 o'clock when I start The War Room, we're going to be delving into all the news, all the big video clips.
01:41:46.000I do have Savannah Hernandez coming in studio in about 20 minutes, and we'll be talking to her about her recent reports.
01:41:54.000She just goes everywhere across the country, asks people about gas prices, how they feel, asks people how they feel about Biden.
01:41:59.000She goes into the inner cities where it's just, I mean, just overwhelmed with drug addicts.
01:42:04.000It's actually really sad, some of the stuff that she captures.
01:42:06.000She goes out there braver than most journalists, by the way.
01:42:09.000So we'll be discussing that with her coming up.
01:42:11.000And then again, I'm going to be doing all the news coverage.
01:42:27.000Because it all it all kind of comes back to the same problem, and that's there is a group, a very small group of elitists.
01:42:38.000The best way to trace it and track it is via the World Economic Forum.
01:42:43.000Their leaders, what they're doing, like for example, oh they had the uprising in Sri Lanka, the president steps down, World Economic Forum injects their operative into that presidency now, and now they've shut off the gas, and you have to have a QR code if you want to get gas.
01:44:06.000Everything you are, else you see, a grain of salt.
01:44:10.000And so I really ask people to focus on that.
01:44:12.000What was the greatest example of that appears to be this text which originated in Malaysia and has become a viral hoax in Australia and in New Zealand.
01:44:19.000How irresponsible is it the people that are sharing that news of a lockdown imminent in New Zealand. Yeah and look
01:44:24.000that's the kind of thing that adds to the anxiety that people feel. So I continue to share the
01:44:30.000message New Zealanders must prepare but do not panic prepare and when you see those messages remember
01:44:37.000that unless you hear it from us it is not the truth and I really ask people just visit covid19.govt.nz
01:44:48.000it has all of the up-to-date information and we will continue to provide everything you
01:44:52.000need. Now if you don't understand how dangerous that is if you don't understand how dystopian
01:44:57.000that is I I just don't even know if I can help you.
01:45:02.000But see, this is what the World Economic Forum does is they give you female leaders so it has that kind of motherly, feminine look to it when really it's a blood-drenched tyrant.
01:45:12.000Ladies and gentlemen, there is a phenomenon happening right now and you're seeing it Somewhat represented in Congress with individuals like Marjorie Taylor Greene are now Myra Flores.
01:45:24.000You wish you had more examples of men doing this, but sadly not so much.
01:45:32.000We do, however, have a powerful statement from Rand Paul that I want to play here in a second, but let me just kind of lay out the build up here.
01:45:45.000When Democrats are in charge, she is blind, deaf, and dumb.
01:45:51.000Now, that's the headline from Jim Thompson at Red State, but everybody can now see how Democrats have politicized every department of the U.S.
01:46:55.000I don't want to say the victims of this, but that's just the truth.
01:46:58.000I mean, Steve Bannon is a victim of the corrupt Democrat Party.
01:47:02.000Steve Bannon is a victim of the two-tiered hierarchy of justice now in this country.
01:47:09.000And of course, there was a powerful interview over the weekend, Steve Bannon and Alex Jones.
01:47:14.000Steve Bannon tells Alex Jones he's one of the greatest political thinkers since founding fathers.
01:47:19.000One of the greatest since the Revolutionary Generation, a very powerful interview, Bannon and Jones.
01:47:26.000And then, over the weekend, you had Glenn Greenwald here in Austin, Texas, who did an interview with Alex as well, at the premiere of Alex's War, which, let me just say this, Alex not able to be on air today.
01:47:39.000Not sure when he will be back on air, or quite frankly, if.
01:47:43.000I'm not trying to be doomsayer here, but I'm just telling you what's up.
01:47:47.000So, Alex's War premiered this weekend.
01:47:53.000It was Saturday here in Austin, Texas, and I just want to say something here.
01:47:57.000I'm speaking for myself, and I'll go ahead and speak for Alex.
01:48:00.000I never do that, but I will right now.
01:48:02.000We just want to thank everybody that came out, and there were so many influential, great people that came out.
01:48:12.000We met so many great people, shaking hands, taking pictures, everything.
01:48:15.000It's just, I wish we could have really, like, livestreamed and televised the whole thing, because if you could see the love Behind Alex Jones, and the love behind this movement, and the friendliness, and the smiles, and the patriotism, everything.
01:48:30.000It's the exact opposite of everything they want to represent us, but it really was a great event.
01:48:35.000Thank you to Alex Lee Moyer for such a great documentary.
01:48:38.000Thanks to Play Nice Productions as well.
01:48:40.000Thanks to everybody who came out and promoted it and are sharing it.
01:48:44.000But here's what it is, as Rand Paul says, there's going to come a day of reckoning Where people will rise up.
01:48:52.000It's going to be peaceful, it's going to be legal, it's going to be lawful, but it's going to save this country and it's going to save the planet.
01:48:57.000Here's Rand Paul saying just that on Fox News this weekend.
01:49:01.000Alright, tonight yet another example of left-wing violence.
01:49:04.000The same radical group offering bounties for the locations of any conservative Supreme Court justice.
01:49:10.000They're now attempting to shut down the congressional baseball game.
01:49:14.000According to this group, no Republican deserves peace ever again.
01:49:19.000Senator Rand Paul, no stranger himself to violent agitators, has been attacked at least twice, including one instance right after the RNC convention, when the senator and his wife, surrounded by far-left lunatics and rioters, barely got out of there with his life.
01:49:37.000And of course the incident with the neighbor.
01:49:39.000Here now is Kentucky Senator Rand Paul.
01:49:42.000You know, Senator, I know Washington, D.C.
01:49:45.000is not far off from New York in terms of their lack of willingness to prosecute people that are violent.
01:49:52.000At least in Kentucky, the guy that attacked you, as I understand it, paid a price, right?
01:50:13.000But we still have our major newspapers, both the Louisville Courier and the Lexington Herald, writing op-eds saying that it was justified, the attack on me was justified, and that I deserved it because I'm somehow a provocative person.
01:50:27.000That my interviewing and my style of interviewing Fauci and others is provocative and therefore I deserve violence.
01:50:33.000They're still saying that in the newspaper.
01:50:36.000One of our newspapers employed a young man who tried to assassinate the mayor, mayoral candidate of Louisville.
01:50:44.000He got two days in prison, and he was released.
01:50:47.000The Black Lives Matter bailed him out after two days, and he worked for the Louisville Courier.
01:50:52.000We now have a new writer for the Louisville Courier who's been arrested for violent assault, and now he's writing that the violence against me was justified, but he's previously been convicted of assault also.
01:51:05.000So yeah, the left wing is egging this on, and if we want it to end, we've got to lock people up.
01:51:10.000The violent people need to be put away for as long as we can put them away.
01:51:14.000It seems like, okay, in real time I was on the radio on January 6th.
01:51:20.000I condemned it that night on this show.
01:51:23.000And yet in the summer of 2020, your Democratic colleagues were either completely silent because it was their base that was involved in the looting, the rioting, the arson, the attacks on police, thousands of cops injured, dozens dead, billions in property damage.
01:51:39.000574 riots, very few prosecutions in this case, even though we have a wealth of evidence.
01:51:47.000Where are the Democrats that are lecturing us on the need for safety and security on the one riot?
01:51:53.000Why aren't they speaking out against the 574 other riots?
01:52:02.000A woman in her 60s who's getting cancer treatment wanders into the Capitol during all this, wanders out, doesn't harm anybody, is not involved with violence and she gets longer in prison Then the, you know, people trying to assassinate a candidate get.
01:52:19.000Or, you know, it's just amazing what we're doing and who we're letting off of this.
01:52:23.000But ultimately there's going to come a day of reckoning where the people who live in New York City, crime disproportionately affects those in poorer neighborhoods and those who are minorities.
01:52:34.000One day they're going to rise up and say, We've had enough.
01:52:37.000The Democrats are not protecting our children.
01:53:08.000I think a big pushback is coming on a lot of issues, including we need law, we need order, we need safety and security to pursue happiness.
01:53:18.000Parents want reading, writing, math, science, and computers in school.
01:53:22.000They don't want, let's see, whatever political agenda is being rammed down kids' throats.
01:53:29.000And they also want lower gas prices and elimination of the inflation record high that we have.
01:53:40.000All right, there you have it, ladies and gentlemen.
01:53:41.000When we come back, Savannah Hernandez in studio to tell her tales of going around the country asking people how they feel about gas prices, seeing the drug addiction in the streets.
01:54:35.000You've been to California, I think, too, covering the border issue.
01:54:38.000What are some of the things that you've covered that you've seen just being boots on the ground down there talking to either border patrol people or the illegal immigrants or just local residents?
01:54:47.000What are some of the stories that you've covered that you don't really see getting national attention?
01:55:00.000So National Guard feels that they're of course just very overwhelmed with everything going on right now at the border.
01:55:06.000I was actually talking to a couple of the members off the record.
01:55:09.000And they were telling me what they're experiencing with the cartel.
01:55:12.000One National Guard member found this man who the cartel dipped his head in acid, right?
01:55:17.000So it's just a clean skull, flesh on his body still.
01:55:20.000And the cartel is leaving these types of people, these carcasses, these dead bodies there for them to find as an intimidation tactic.
01:55:26.000So that's one thing that National Guard Border Patrol dealing with.
01:55:29.000We also have, of course, the huge influx of migrants, the people in these local communities of Eagle Pass, Texas, really feeling the implications of the open border, feeling like the federal government is working against them with everything going on here.
01:55:42.000What we're seeing on screen is some of my coverage from Yuma, Arizona, where you can go and from 12 a.m.
01:55:48.000to 6 a.m., you're watching floods of people, hundreds of people just walk over en masse.
01:55:53.000There's probably five or six Border Patrol agents there.
01:55:56.000Trying to apprehend all of these people.
01:55:58.000What ends up happening is because it's such a large group, sometimes they'll get tired of waiting and they'll just run into the local farmer's fields, therefore destroying their crop, ruining their property.
01:56:09.000So this is what Americans at the border are experiencing every single day.
01:56:13.000But it's not even really, they're not even apprehending them.
01:56:40.000Yeah, they're extremely upset because they're like, you know what, we're basically just an Uber service.
01:56:43.000A lot of these migrants come over, they're extremely entitled with their mentality of like, okay, I just walked a long journey across the border.
01:56:51.000I just walked through multiple countries.
01:56:52.000I was promised money and housing and give me my money and housing.
01:56:55.000Yeah, you need to come pick me up, process me and take me into America.
01:56:59.000And we have to keep in mind too that a lot of these migrants are getting a notice to appear because people will look at my reporting and say, look Sav, it looks like you're reporting that Border Patrol is apprehending these people and just letting them go in America.
01:57:09.000And I'm like, well, what they're doing is they're giving them a notice to appear.
01:57:12.000So they're basically saying, OK, we're going to allow you to stay here in the States.
01:57:15.000Make sure you come to this court date so we can work out your immigration status.
01:57:19.000Of course, many of those people, the majority of those people, not going to those notice to appear court dates.
01:57:29.000When I was down there a year ago, we were talking to some insiders that told me the rate is like 15%, I think, that show up for their court cases on these deals.
01:57:38.000And also we saw the new DHS numbers come out about gotaways, right?
01:57:42.000Because we're seeing the apprehension numbers, we're reaching historic rates under Joe Biden's administration.
01:57:47.000But what about the Godways, the people who didn't get apprehended?
01:57:49.000And keep in mind, the reason why these people don't want to be apprehended is because they're human smugglers, drug traffickers, they're members of the cartel.
01:57:56.000You know, we just arrested, Border Patrol just arrested not one, but two sex offenders, one of them a child sex offender, just the other week because those who are not trying to be apprehended are the worst of the worst coming over.
01:58:07.000So in the fiscal year of 2021 to now, we've had almost a million.
01:58:41.000So what I was told a year ago, and I don't know if this is still the case, under Trump, they used to have some sort of a policy to try to keep track of these people where they would have the ankle monitors, right?
01:58:52.000Um, now obviously they don't have 2.5 million or 3 million or 5 million or 10 million ankle monitors or however many they would need.
01:59:00.000So when Biden reopened the border and the numbers started to influx, they canceled the ankle monitor policy to make sure people would show up for their court dates.
01:59:10.000And then they only applied it to If you came into the country and you were on a terror watch list, or a criminal sex offender list, or one of these violent criminal lists, they would still let you in!
01:59:21.000You'd still say, okay, come in, but we have to put an ankle monitor on you.
01:59:25.000By the way, half of them just cut it off, and then they're just gone, so it doesn't even make a difference, but oh, they'll let you in and they'll give you an ankle monitor.
01:59:34.000Most of them still don't show up, they just cut it off, they're in the country, they're good to go.
01:59:36.000Terror watch list, rapists, pedophiles, they all get in.
01:59:40.000Well, we have to be progressive and inclusive, you have to remember that, right?
01:59:43.000So, you know, maybe you're a child rapist, maybe you're involved in some human smuggling, some drug trafficking.
01:59:49.000Exactly, I mean look at what's happening right now in Los Angeles with their district attorneys and not allowing prosecutors to come to these court dates, right, when these rapists are out on parole.
02:00:00.000They're now barring these prosecutors from coming because we have a society now that is pro-crime and I guess anti-justice.
02:00:07.000That's why we're seeing this every single day and it really is heartbreaking to go down to the border and watch these people pour over en masse because I will be very honest with you, many of them are morbidly obese, they're wearing brand new clothes, Oh yeah.
02:00:21.000New cell phones and it's a joke, okay?
02:00:22.000So they're coming over and the reason I've talked to a lot of my friends who cover the border extensively and they say well a lot of them will you know put on a brand new outfit because they know the media is gonna be there and they want to look good as they're crossing the border.
02:00:33.000Some of them are coming to go straight to parties.
02:00:35.000They literally come in and they go straight to parties, folks.
02:00:50.000And up in Dallas, for the first time, I ran into a language barrier because I'm running into Cubans, Venezuelans that don't speak English, who, of course, Have just crossed over to the border.
02:00:58.000They've just gotten to whichever city the NGO gave them a bus ticket or a plane ticket to.
02:01:03.000A lot of them heading to New York, actually.
02:01:06.000I went into Piedras Negras, Mexico because I wanted to go ask these people, hey, exactly which state are you going to and why?
02:01:12.000And they're telling me how many of their friends are already over here, which states they're living in, how many of their family members are heading over as well, and which state they're going to.
02:01:19.000Yeah, tell me, I was going to ask you that next.
02:01:21.000What states do you hear the most where they're going?
02:01:24.000New York, surprisingly, and it's funny because I actually went straight from the border in Texas to New York, and I could see in live time the huge demographic change.
02:01:32.000You're seeing the illegal immigrants all over.
02:01:34.000A lot of the times, my friends would be like, come on, Sab, you can't tell that person's illegal.
02:01:42.000You can tell by their brand new clothes.
02:01:43.000You can tell by the fact that they're flooding our airports right now.
02:01:46.000And they all have, of course, the documentation that they received from these NGOs.
02:01:50.000So again, you know, I come up here and this is a very repetitive thing.
02:01:52.000This is nothing new that I'm talking about.
02:01:54.000But more importantly, it's like if this continues to go on for another two years, where will our country be?
02:02:00.000I'm already seeing the very open change.
02:02:04.000What's it going to look like in two years?
02:02:05.000I remember I was down at the police station here, it was probably like two years ago, maybe less.
02:02:11.000I was down there filing a report or something and there was a gentleman outside, middle-aged gentleman, who looked like really in trouble.
02:02:18.000And he was out there and I'm walking in and he kind of like comes up to me, kind of aggressively, didn't touch me or anything, but kind of comes up to me like he, I couldn't really understand what he was saying, he needed help or whatever, he couldn't speak English, he looked really desperate, really out of his sorts.
02:02:30.000And I walked into the police station and I said, before I even was filing the charge or whatever, I said, hey, you guys know there's a gentleman outside.
02:03:21.000No, it's an illegal immigrant invasion to collapse our economy.
02:03:25.000Savannah Hernandez in studio with us from Truth Social does great work out on the streets.
02:03:30.000And you actually wanted to correct me on an issue because I was saying they showed the picture of all the people in the Biden shirts and I'm saying that's just a photo op.
02:03:37.000Most of these people don't know Joe Biden from a biscuit.
02:03:40.000It's kind of the same struggle Joe Biden has.
02:03:42.000He doesn't know himself from a biscuit either.
02:03:44.000But all jokes aside, you were saying that's not totally the case, that they're actually getting propagandized before they get to the border.
02:03:51.000Yes, so I've talked to a lot of people in the right wing, specifically about my reporting, and they'll say, well, let's bring over the Cubans and the Venezuelans because they're fleeing a communistic or socialistic state, they understand true oppression, they understand- Yeah, like, we have refugees, and we have asylum seekers, yeah.
02:04:09.000So, you know, I talked to my friends about this and I'm like, well, this is actually a really interesting angle here and I want to go talk to the people coming over here because, you know, right now we're seeing all of these, oh, Hispanics are fleeing the Democratic vote and it's because, of course, Hispanics are very primarily Catholic, they're very family oriented, they're very pro-life, very religious.
02:04:28.000So, of course, the Democrats stand for everything that they hate and despise.
02:04:33.000So I'm talking to these immigrants and I'm like, you know, what do you think about Joe Biden?
02:04:36.000And a lot of them view him as this nice man who's giving them an opportunity for a better life, giving them the opportunity to work.
02:04:45.000And so, you know, I can see the mentality from a lot of people of like, OK, well, these people are fleeing oppression.
02:04:50.000They understand what socialism looks like, so they're not going to vote it back in.
02:04:53.000But in reality, they're voting for Democrats and they're voting for Joe Biden because they see the Democratic Party, as we all know, as the nice party that gave them that opportunity.
02:05:01.000So they're going to give them in turn The Free Stuff Party, and then the other level of this too is, they have all these church groups involved in this, they have all these Catholic church groups involved in this, so then they come in and they go through Catholic church groups or these groups and they think, oh this is good, it's a Christian Catholic thing I'm getting involved with too, but no, it's all cartel run.
02:05:21.000Exactly, and it is so funny too, because again, I went from Eagle Pass to New York, so I'm talking to these migrants who, you know, were extorted by the cartels, extorted by the Mexican police, dealt with human trafficking, drug trafficking, saw people get murdered in the Darien Gap, like they dealt with all these very horrific things, talking about what's going on in their country, their tyrannical government, and then I go to New York, and I'm looking at what Americans, okay, are focused in on, And I'm in the middle of a deodorant-free monkeypox protest about how that is the greatest thing that's facing our nation right now is the monkeypox, and I quote, pandemic.
02:05:55.000It's ridiculous and it's just so funny to me to see the disconnect between Americans and the issues that we're focused in on versus what's actually going on at our border.
02:06:04.000Okay, well we can transition to this now.
02:06:28.000They're protesting monkeypox and they're mad that the government is not providing them with more vaccines for monkeypox, which again only affects the gay community.
02:06:37.000And so I talked to a lot of my friends about this and they're like, well, it's a little bit hard to talk about monkeypox because we don't want to just straight out come out and say it's a degenerate disease that comes from having promiscuous sex and orgies.
02:06:48.000And so of course, what I love to do with these types of things is let the gay community speak for themselves.
02:06:52.000So that's what I did with this interview.
02:06:54.000Yeah, I don't know if you want to play any of this, if you want to pitch to it, but this is some of the wack, this is some of the most wacky stuff, the most nonsensical, what planet did I wake up on stuff that you've ever seen.
02:07:05.000Literally like, at least some of the stuff you can kind of understand and make sense of where it's coming from.
02:07:11.000This is like, you're on a different planet now.
02:07:26.000They're in orgies and they're upset at the government because after they contract an STD from being in a gay orgy, they say that it's because of monkey pox and it's because of the government's response to monkey pox.
02:07:36.000Yeah, we can play a little bit of this video because it's, again, listen to this own community from their mouth themselves, how they're contracting monkey pox and how it is spreading.
02:07:46.000So you were just talking about sex work, monkey pox.
02:07:49.000For the communities who maybe don't understand what monkey pox is, can you explain it to us?
02:07:54.000Yes, well, monkey pox is an infection.
02:07:57.000I try not to say monkey pox so much because it will be racist, but it has a terrible effect and it has a lot to do with robbing and it has a lot to do with robbing by force.
02:08:09.000It affects people while engaging in sex.
02:08:13.000And for that, it is important to know that for some people, sex is not just pleasure.
02:09:28.000And you go up and you say, hey, you know, there's been a big outbreak of Needles spreading AIDS in New York and the drug dealer says, yeah, as a heroin dealer, this is impacting me.
02:09:50.000But it's just, what's so amazing to me is, okay, yeah, you're afraid you're gonna get monkeypox because you know the activity you're doing is causing monkeypox, but somehow that's society's problem?
02:10:02.000And that's what I wanted to highlight too with this interview, is that our society is so degenerate, and we are so far away from God or any foundation of, you know, traditional family or decency, that these people are out in the streets of New York on a Sunday, At 6 p.m.
02:10:18.000protesting because they can't be involved in a disgusting orgy.
02:10:21.000I'm just going to be very honest with this.
02:10:23.000They're up there and they're protesting because they can't be involved in this promiscuous, unprotected sex.
02:10:28.000They think that the government should be responsible for them and they're dealing with what they say is a mental health crisis.
02:10:33.000The sign literally says whores for public safety.
02:10:43.000They're blaming the government for their own bad decisions.
02:10:45.000And I'm like, how about you just don't be a degenerate and you don't have sex?
02:10:48.000And then it turns into this whole argument of like, well, I have to have sex.
02:10:51.000And I took video of some of this person's speech and she goes, I wish I was at home screwing somebody right now, but I can't because of monkeypox because I need the vaccine.
02:11:02.000Everybody needs this vaccine and the government hates us and they won't give us this vaccine.
02:11:06.000And they're literally using the reasoning as to why they need it so they can have promiscuous.
02:11:15.000Well, because I remember growing up and I went to a Catholic grade school and then a Christian high school and they used to do, they would do fear mongering and they would show you images of STDs and all this stuff to try to, you know, make sure you don't have promiscuous sex.
02:11:28.000You could say it's a bad thing, good thing, I'm not claiming either, but I'm saying, oh wow, there's general awareness being raised that STDs are spreading and now we know how they're spreading and so people don't want to get an STD, like, oh no, and that affects me as a whore, like, oh what a tragedy.
02:11:45.000And, but I guess they want free stuff, they want respect, they want us to be enraged for them.
02:11:52.000You're going to have to find it out for yourself.
02:11:54.000And again, everybody's focused in on monkey pox when our border is wide open.
02:11:58.000I went to New Yorkers as well, and another one of the videos I conducted is, what is the craziest thing you've seen as a New Yorker?
02:12:04.000And I did this to highlight how degenerate and how much our cities have degraded to where people are watching, you know, crack addicts rub feces on their face and they're like, that's just a normal day in New York.
02:12:20.000And I'm like, does nobody understand that this is not normal and this is not how we should be living in America?
02:12:26.000And by the way, when they ran these studies in New York, it wasn't just that 90, I think it was 98 or 99 percent of the monkeypox were homosexual men having anal sex.
02:13:42.000All the news, all this news on my desk that I didn't cover, we're covering it all in the War Room in an hour.
02:13:46.000But Gerald Cilenti takes over the Alex Jones Show now.
02:14:04.000And if we don't turn it around soon, then it will only get worse.
02:14:09.000But as bad as things are, we still have time to prepare.
02:14:13.000And that alone is something to be grateful for.
02:14:16.000A gravity water filter will provide you with clean, healthy water, even in the event of your taps getting shut off.
02:14:24.000And having your own food will save you from getting ensnared in government FEMA camps.
02:14:29.000And if you've already stocked up enough for your own family, you might want to consider stocking up for your neighbors.
02:14:36.000Some of your neighbors might not be prepared for what's coming, but you can help them by having an abundance of storable foods and water filtration.
02:14:47.000Whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully.
02:15:15.000It's where they, at the County Courthouse, before it was County Courthouse, that's where the Constitution, the New York State, was written.
02:15:32.000When this was the first capital of New York State, before the British burnt it down.
02:16:09.000We had Judge Andrew Napolitano, Scott Ritter, Gary Null, Progressive Radio Network, Phil Giraldi, former CIA guy, hacked people out in the streets of the huge garden, the Crown Garden.
02:20:29.000Because these little media whores love wars.
02:20:34.000You know, there's an article in the New York Times today regarding Alex Jones and they use the word misinformation that is shaping today's misinformation economy.
02:21:23.000You want to talk about selling misinformation?
02:21:28.000How about the Mrs. Misinformation that spewed out the disgusting lie that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and they had the proof with the aluminum tubes that they got from Niger, Nigeria, some crap they made up.
02:23:17.000Never a word from the mainstream about the words of George Washington in his farewell address when he warned that any nation which, quote, indulges towards another in habitual hatred Or in habitual fondness, is in some degree a slave.
02:23:50.000He told Americans, observe good faith and justice toward all nations.
02:25:09.000By their deeds, the mainstream media does not observe good faith and justice to all.
02:25:20.000Instead, their one-sided Warhawk narratives are making Americans slaves to the military-industrial complex.
02:25:36.000Indulges, nations which indulges towards another in habitual hatred or an habitual fondness is in some degree a slave.
02:25:47.000And there's Dwight D. Eisenhower, five-star general, Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, two-term president, warning us in his farewell address on January 17th.
02:26:08.000That the military-industrial complex is robbing the nation of the genius of the scientists, the sweat of the laborers, and the future of the children.
02:30:23.000So there was a Gallup poll that just came out that showed, I'm not making it, it is the band, the Hot Damn Band, man, they were really, real cats, kittens.
02:38:16.000They led the Iraq War, an illegal war, based on lies, sat on the board of directors of Raytheon, the second largest defense contractor in the United States, saying one of the U.S.' 's goals in Ukraine is to see a week in Russia.
02:38:46.000You, you are not speaking for me with all your little ribbons and your military drag on!
02:40:56.000The Prince of Peace whacked up on a cross after he throws the Goldman Sachs gang, the Merrill Lynch mob, the JPMorgan Chase syndicate Out of the temple.
02:45:06.000What makes you think 43,000 Ukrainians Okay.
02:45:10.000This war would have been over months ago if the United States and NATO didn't keep sending weapons of death to keep bloodying the killing fields.
02:45:55.000He also goes on to say, by the way, and I'm gonna come back to it later when we get back, About how Ukraine was killing all those people in the Donbass region for the last eight years.
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02:51:10.000That area, the Donbass region, they pulled away after the United States overthrew the democratically elected government of Viktor Yanukovych in 2014.
02:51:30.000Yep, avoid avenues of foreign entanglement in innumerable ways.
02:51:45.000Such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot, said George Washington.
02:51:57.000Oh, you mean Enlightened and independent patriots like myself, who launched Occupy Peace, to close down all the bases overseas, bring home the troops, secure the homeland.
02:52:21.000We take care of our own, then we'll welcome in and put the troops to work to rebuilding our third world infrastructure.
02:52:29.000The WPA project, Work Progress Administration project, for the 21st century, is our roads and bridges are collapsing and giving them skills rather than the crap that they're teaching them in the military?
02:52:42.000Oh, oh, and then, if you want to go to war, let the people vote.
02:52:48.000You want to take our money to go to Ukraine, let the people vote.
02:53:41.000Hence, she must be engaged in frequent controversies because they're all fighting for their primary interests.
02:53:58.000The causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns.
02:54:07.000Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of our politics or the ordinary combinations And collusions of our friendships or enmities.
02:54:37.000Language is a little different back then.
02:56:43.000But I saw your party, the Occupy Peace Party.
02:56:46.000I didn't realize you could boogie like that.
02:56:49.000Well, you know, I don't know if it was Jesus, Muhammad, or Buddha, but one of them said, you better boogie before the lights go out, because tomorrow is iffy.
02:56:59.000That was a hell of a jig that you put on display out there.
02:57:02.000I got to tell you, folks, I don't even think I could move like that.
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02:59:07.000And I'm going to stop right there now, and I'm going to move back to your phone calls.
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02:59:36.000With all the censorship online, what's happening?
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