The trans day of vengeance is upon us, and we have a guest on the show to talk about it. Uncle Sam aka Badass Uncle Sam joins us in studio with us to give his perspective on the events taking place on the trans Day of Vengeance.
00:01:08.000Well, I survived obviously, but one of the nurses, and this is a quote, told me if I had not taken those supplements, I would not have lived.
00:01:19.000So I'm telling you folks, These supplements saved my life.
00:01:23.000I want to thank you for saving my life.
00:01:36.000They're promised to engage in a bunch of violence.
00:01:38.000They've got high-level FBI people now warning they think copycat attacks are about to happen.
00:01:43.000Well, as you know, I'm in the gay capital of the South here in New Baltimore.
00:01:48.000And I'm going to be putting up a video tomorrow that pretty much amplifies the reaction I get on the street here, because I'm on the bullhorn.
00:01:58.000I'm trying to invite liberals over to talk, and one of the things I say over the bullhorn is, could you please explain to me how helping women By having men compete with women in women's sports, how does that help women out?
00:02:12.000So, I'm telling you nothing, and this includes people that are not even in RLTGB or whatever they want to call them, just liberals.
00:02:44.000And I just want people to pray for me because I'm going to be out there this weekend and it's going to be the weekend of rage and vengeance.
00:02:52.000And as I say, every weekend I encounter these people, every weekend.
00:02:58.000So I'm sure it's going to be even more pro, you know.
00:03:03.000It's going to be more so this weekend.
00:03:05.000So if anybody's in the area that want to come out and watch my six, hey, come and join me.
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00:08:11.000Well, Scott Ritter needs no introduction.
00:08:14.000He's a former Marine intelligence officer who served in the former Soviet Union implementing arms control agreements on the staff of General Norma Schwarzkopf during the Gulf War.
00:08:22.000He played a crucial role in the hunt for Iraq's Scud missiles from 91 to 98.
00:08:26.000Mr. Ritter served as a chief inspector of the United Nations in Iraq, leading the search
00:08:30.000for Iraq's so-called weapons of mass destruction.
00:08:33.000Mr. Ritter was a vocal critic of the American decision to go to war in Iraq in 2003.
00:08:38.000His new book, Disarmament, the Time of Perestroika, Arms Control, and the End of the Soviet Union
00:08:44.000Real Scott Ritter on Twitter, scottritterextra.com.
00:08:48.000We couldn't have a more important, informative, truthful, honorable person with us in studio.
00:08:54.000So sir, you're going to have to have the floor here and just tell people about what's happening in Ukraine, what's happening in Russia, what's happening in the rest of the world and your view on how we can try to stop what I think is already the beginning of World War III leading to nuclear confrontation.
00:09:30.000We, the United States, have made it our objective to achieve the strategic defeat of Russia.
00:09:37.000That's the official policy of the United States.
00:09:40.000And if you're Russia and you hear a nuclear power like the United States, who's aligned with an anti-Russian military organization, NATO, saying that their mission is the strategic defeat of Russia, That means you can't trust the United States.
00:09:55.000You have to assume that everything the United States is doing is geared towards your destruction, and it's incumbent upon you to respond accordingly.
00:10:04.000People out there right now are saying that Russia launched an unprovoked act of aggression against Ukraine on February 24th of 2022.
00:10:10.000That's the furthest thing from the truth.
00:10:13.000To accept that, you have to ignore the fact that in 2008, the former U.S.
00:10:18.000Russian ambassador, current CIA director William Burns, wrote a memorandum called "Net means
00:10:23.000net, no means no," establishing what he said were the red lines Russia set about bringing
00:11:42.000When they intervened in February, it's because they had no other choice.
00:11:46.000The Ukrainian military was shelling civilian areas in the Donbas, killing hundreds of children, thousands of civilians.
00:11:52.000But even after Russia's intervention, they sought a peaceful outcome.
00:11:56.000Rather than trying to capture the city and overthrow the government, they wanted negotiations.
00:12:01.000And they actually had a negotiated peace settlement ready to sign on 1 April when the United States, Great Britain intervened and brought an end to that.
00:12:11.000It's a war that Russia's fighting to save the civilian population, the ethnic Russian civilian population of Eastern Ukraine.
00:12:19.000It's a war being waged by Ukraine as a proxy of NATO and the United States to undermine, destroy, and otherwise destabilize Russia.
00:12:27.000The consequences of this are that we have a level of nuclear escalation that's unprecedented in history.
00:12:34.000There is no more arms control right now.
00:12:36.000The last remaining arms control treaty has been suspended because Russia says we can't do business with a nation that wants to inspect our most sensitive facilities at the same time they say we want to defeat you strategically.
00:12:48.000So Russia says we can't talk to you until you change your strategic outcome.
00:12:52.000You have to be willing to talk to us as equals and deal with us.
00:13:24.000And that's our future if we don't find a way to get disarmament back on the table.
00:13:28.000That's why the 2024 elections are probably one of the most important elections in the history of the United States.
00:13:33.000Because, literally, the future of the United States and the world is on the line.
00:13:38.000We elect the wrong person, we don't get arms control, we all die.
00:13:42.000I'm not an arms treaty expert like you.
00:13:44.000You cut your teeth on that and worked on that in decades, and accurately said there were no WMDs in Iraq as chief UN inspector, but we're going to go to break.
00:13:53.000I can study the Iran Corporation documents, the Pentagon threat escalation doctrines, and we're moving right up that threat scale towards nuclear war.
00:14:00.000And every, like you said, every analyst says once it gets to a point, it goes all the way.
00:14:13.000You cannot survive a nuclear conflict waged between nuclear powers like the United States and Russia.
00:14:20.000Once it happens, all the weapons released, everybody dies.
00:14:24.000And even if it stayed to a limited, the different numbers I've seen is reactors melt down, society breaks down, stock markets crash, because the Pentagon's like, oh, we can have a limited war.
00:14:33.000Well, even a limited war will destroy the economy.
00:14:35.000Right, but the Pentagon doesn't understand it takes two to tango.
00:14:38.000Russia doesn't believe in a limited war.
00:14:40.000So we may think we're getting a limited war.
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00:18:08.000The tyrants summoned, the puppeteers jerked, the puppets danced, the colluders implemented, the doctors ordered, the hospitals administered.
00:18:19.000The men to side is scripted, the bamboozles bleated, the totalitarianized bullied, the covidians tattled, the parents surrendered.
00:18:28.000The hardest thing was I let him get that shot.
00:18:31.000The good citizens believed and forgot.
00:20:10.000Well, you talk about one of the original whistleblowers about WMDs and...
00:20:14.000The kind of proto-example of WikiLeaks, Scott Ritter, former chief UN weapons inspector, one of the top weapons inspectors over there, in Iraq, and saying it was all a lie and being massively persecuted.
00:20:27.000And you're getting into where we currently are with Russia and their posture.
00:20:31.000I'm not going to play the clip, I've played it like 30 times.
00:20:34.000But Biden, eight months ago, said, you can't ship Abrams tanks in.
00:20:37.000That escalates things, and that goes to World War III.
00:20:53.000All the old doctrine, where the Pentagon knew they couldn't do this, has been thrown to the wayside in just the last eight, nine months very recklessly.
00:21:02.000Where do you see this going, and what should the viewers and listeners know?
00:21:23.000And if you don't respect somebody, then you're ignorant of their realities.
00:21:28.000And the reality is, not only is Russia a peer-level military opponent, meaning that they're as good as we are, ladies and gentlemen, I'm not being... Look, I'm a former Marine.
00:21:38.000And I'm the kind of guy that says you can't beat me in any kind of fight.
00:21:50.000No nuclear-armed power, like the United States or Russia, can lose a stand-up fight against a peer-level opponent, because that's existential.
00:21:58.000That means that your nation goes away.
00:22:29.000Back in the 1960s, we had people like Mr. Wolfstetter and others who believed that we could fight and win a nuclear war.
00:22:36.000Fortunately, smarter people, Richard Nixon, one of them, came out and said, no, we can't.
00:22:40.000That's why mutually assured destruction came into being, where we both agreed there's no reason to fight a nuclear war because if we do, we all die.
00:22:47.000But now we have a new generation of people who think, no, wait a minute, because Russia's weak, We can bully them, we can threaten them with nuclear conflict, and they'll back down.
00:22:56.000I'm here to tell you right now, Russia's not weak.
00:22:58.000Russia has a nuclear arsenal that's second to none, and they have a doctrine that says that they are attacked.
00:23:03.000This is why I don't believe in limited nuclear war, because it doesn't matter what we believe.
00:23:07.000We use one nuclear weapon against Russia, they'll launch everything at us instantly, and there's nothing we have that can shoot them down.
00:23:13.000We will all die, and these are the most important... And Putin has said that's the set default.
00:23:19.000One nuclear weapon used against us, but here's the other default.
00:23:22.000And this is why the policy of the Biden administration is so insane.
00:23:26.000Just like us, imagine if Russia put 500,000 troops in Mexico and said they're going to come in and they're going to encourage civil unrest in Texas and then they're going to move in and take Texas.
00:23:37.000Would we view this as existential in nature, as a threat?
00:25:08.000In 1995, the Norwegians fired an atmospheric test rocket that the Russians misinterpreted as being a Trident missile being fired at them.
00:25:17.000It was such a serious event that they put the nuclear football in front of Boris Yeltsin and said, you have to fire the arsenal right now, we're under attack.
00:25:33.000And again, you know, I joke about this.
00:25:35.000I say, when you meet me, shake my hand and buy me a beer.
00:25:38.000Because if it weren't for me and other weapons inspectors who implemented the INF Treaty that I write about in my book, you'd all be dead.
00:25:44.000And the reason why I say you'd all be dead is because if those weapons existed in 1995, when that atmospheric test rocket was fired, Boris Yeltsin wouldn't have had 20 minutes to consider.
00:27:05.000This is why I say the 2024 election is probably the most important election in our history, because this is the election that if it goes the wrong way, we may not... Well, let's be clear.
00:27:25.000I can't explain what's going on with the President of the United States other than to say that he lacks the mental capacity to govern effectively.
00:27:32.000And it's an embarrassment, but it's more than an embarrassment.
00:30:54.000Ladies and gentlemen, this book, The Great Reset and the War for the World, is a historic book that documents the globalists, in their own words, plan for our future.
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00:33:24.000Live from the Infowars.com studios, it's Alex Jones.
00:33:30.000So there's a real Palpable nausea to this for me and a surrealness to it that I'm not a former arms inspector And you know guy that did peace treaties with the Russians or any of that, but I've studied history It's so interesting and to see all the doctors we had before that kept us from destroying ourselves being thrown aside By a bunch of inept people that can barely talk It has a real
00:33:55.000Bone-chilling effect of being on the eve of destruction here.
00:33:59.000So Scott Ritter of ScottRitterExtra.com, former head UN inspector in Iraq.
00:34:06.000The next 30 minutes I'm going to try to really shut up and give you the floor, because you did a great presentation earlier about where we're at, what's going on, and hopefully ways to stop this.
00:34:15.000Look, the biggest problem we face today is of course nuclear weapons.
00:34:20.000And so if we don't find a way to put disarmament first and foremost on the agenda, I'm not saying that in America there's not a lot of problems.
00:35:05.000That term alone should send alarm signals to anybody, because there's no such thing as a usable nuke.
00:35:10.000We have actually practiced in war games firing this nuclear weapon against the Russian target in a NATO-type scenario, which is exactly, of course, what's going on in Ukraine right now.
00:35:21.000So we have a weapon deployed, designed to be used in the very scenario that we're speaking of, because we believe that we can escalate to de-escalate.
00:35:30.000We can fire a nuclear weapon and get the Russians to back down.
00:35:34.000Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, again, what you think about him, I don't care.
00:35:38.000But I will tell you this, when he speaks, listen.
00:40:17.000This war could happen today, it could happen tomorrow, it could happen next week, it could happen in a year, it could happen in a year and a half.
00:40:40.000But the bottom line is, as long as NATO's part of an American policy that says we seek the strategic defeat of Russia, then it's a problem.
00:40:48.000Well, I know nobody can tell the future, but what do you see happening?
00:40:54.00070% of me says we're all gonna die, so go out and get drunk tonight because you might as well live high.
00:41:28.000You have got to make the decision that you want to live.
00:41:30.000Therefore, you have to become engaged and insist Whoever is in power in 2024 has to make arms control the number one policy objective of the United States, because if we don't bring nuclear weapons under control, my children are... And without even making it partisan, I've got big problems with Trump, but he seems better one in the war.
00:41:49.000Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Tulsi Gabbards.
00:41:51.000I mean, who do we... who do you support?
00:41:55.000You know, Donald Trump has put a standard out there right now that's unmatched.
00:42:00.000I mean, first of all, he's inconsistent.
00:42:02.000He's the man that pulled out of my treaty, the INF Treaty.
00:43:58.000uh... i think we should be taking a little bit concerned about actually
00:44:02.000becoming too much of a single world government Um, and--
00:44:05.000If I may say that we want to avoid creating a civilizational risk by having, frankly this may sound a little odd, too much cooperation between governments.
00:44:19.000You know, if you look at, say, history and the rise and fall of civilizations, really all throughout history civilizations have risen and fallen, but it hasn't meant the doom of humanity as a whole because there have been all these separate civilizations that were separated by great distances.
00:44:37.000While Rome was falling, you know, Islam was rising, and that actually ended up being a source of preservation of knowledge, and many scientific advancements.
00:44:49.000And so, I think we want to be a little bit cautious about being too much of a world, of a single civilization, because if we are too much of a single civilization, then the whole thing may collapse.
00:45:05.000I'm obviously not suggesting war or anything like that, but I think we want to Well, we live to see it.
00:45:10.000area of actually popular too much. It sounds a little odd, but we just want to have some
00:45:17.000amount of civilizational diversity such that if something does go wrong with some part
00:45:22.000of civilization that the whole thing doesn't collapse and humanity keeps moving forward.
00:47:24.000Their submarines are off our coast, just a few minutes with nukes, and they've been very restrained so far, but now their rhetoric is extremely threatening because NATO is on their border and moving weapons into the area.
00:47:38.000I wanted to play the short, clever Planet of the Apes, which is a hypothetical fictional by Rod Serling, a great American World War II veteran and patriot, about the astronauts come back through a time warp and think they're on an alien planet.
00:49:39.000We're in World War III now, sleepwalking in destruction.
00:49:42.000Scott Ritter, who is the trailblazer, can only think of one other person who's done more than him, and that's Julian Assange, trying to stop this.
00:49:49.000We've got this segment and one more, sir.
00:51:05.000Look, if you can't do business with Russia, you can't do business with anybody.
00:51:10.000They've got a lot of stuff and they want to do business with us, but we're the ones who shut it all down because Look, we have a military-industrial complex that needs a sense of conflict around the world to justify an $800 billion defense budget.
00:51:25.000Russia's been picked as the enemy, even though they don't want to be the enemy.
00:51:27.000You know, in Texas, we're in Texas right now.
00:51:30.000There's a great Texan named Van Cliburn.
00:52:13.000We all have to become our own Van Cliburn.
00:52:15.000We all have to be able to go on a journey where we break through the walls of ignorance, the walls of fear, to reach out and touch these people.
00:52:23.000One of the things I write about in my book is my experience.
00:52:26.000Alex, I'm not lying when I tell you, I joined the Marine Corps to kill Russians.
00:52:30.000I joined in the 1980s, the Cold War, my job was to kill Russians and I trained hard to do just that.
00:52:36.000But then I got involved in implementation of this treaty, and I got to go over there and work for two and a half years, and I met them.
00:52:42.000Their mothers, their fathers, their sisters, their brothers, their uncles, their aunts, their grandparents.
00:52:47.000They laugh, they cry, they weep, they chuckle, they chortle, they do everything we do because they are us.
00:52:54.000They speak a different language, they have different cultural, you know, Peculiarities.
00:53:56.000Get your name out there so the American people can start considering your platform because... Hell, they killed his dad because he was a good guy.
00:54:04.000And please don't give anybody... I'm not saying that, but... Robert... No, I'm just saying, he knows.
00:55:14.000And I tell you what, if we make it happen, I encourage everybody here to go out in the streets, whether it's in Austin, Dallas, Houston, come to New York City, go somewhere, get in the street and send a signal.
00:55:25.000And people say, well, demonstrations don't work.
00:56:39.000And the way you make it stop is to break through the ignorance-based fear so we no longer feel there's a threat out there worthy of the weapon.
00:56:46.000I'm telling you right now, Alex, my only question is... Well, it's like they're using TikTok with the Chinese to then set up something a hundred times worse.
00:57:01.000We, the people of the United States of America, in order to form a more perfect union, have to get off our butts and get out there and start taking action.
00:58:04.000We now take the challenge, not to censor like you do, but to stand against you and to fight even harder for our birthright that you are trying to steal!
00:59:40.000We return you now to your regularly scheduled program.
00:59:45.000Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order. It's Alex Jones
01:00:09.000All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'm really excited to have undoubtedly the top legal scholar in the country joining us
01:00:15.000in the next segment Alan Dershowitz another great legal eagle
01:00:18.000Robert Barnes is riding shotgun with me today.
01:00:20.000In fact, he was going to be hosting today.
01:00:22.000I have my own court stuff I have to deal with, but I'm going to push it up to the time I've got to be in court in like an hour to talk to Alan Dershowitz about this historic event that's just unfolded.
01:00:31.000So Alan Dershowitz is coming up here with us live in five minutes when a couple hundred radio stations join us after this break.
01:00:38.000But Robert Barnes, Give us a prelude of some of what you're going to be talking about after Dershowitz goes, but also just in general of why this is so historic, what we've just witnessed.
01:00:49.000Well, I think as Professor Dershowitz has identified, this is all unchartered, unparalleled, unprecedented territory.
01:00:54.000This is an attempt to make something... It goes even worse than that.
01:00:58.000It's not only the just open, overt, Berea-style political weaponization of our legal criminal justice process.
01:01:05.000It also, it does things like define something as a crime that's not a crime.
01:01:10.000It ignores statute of limitations that are meant to protect innocent individuals from wayward politically motivated prosecutors in part.
01:01:18.000It's violation of due process and it's the most selective prosecution maybe at least in the modern history that I can remember.
01:01:24.000There have been many selective prosecutions but this is probably the most abusive and egregious one.
01:01:29.000You have a district attorney being elected, campaigning in part on promising to indict
01:01:34.000a particular person for an unidentified crime.
01:01:37.000I mean, this is just unheard of in American history of the indictment actually occurring.
01:01:41.000You've had some people try to misuse their power in this way, abuse their privilege in
01:01:45.000this way, but very few have actually gone ahead and done it.
01:02:41.000It's taking a case that basically should not exist from a criminal proceedings, both because of who it is that's being targeted, who it is that's targeting him, but also because of the substantive nature of the claims being made, the charges being leveled, and the limitations that are supposed to be present that are not being present.
01:03:00.000So this goes right to the core of a constitutional democracy.
01:03:03.000I mean, people around the world are comparing us to a banana republic.
01:03:07.000Our global credibility has taken a substantial hit that will never fully come back.
01:03:13.000You know, we mock other countries when they try to lock up their political opponents.
01:03:19.000There was a kind of a fake documentary made, but a documentary made on behalf of that won
01:03:25.000an Oscar for Navalny, who's a very marginal political figure in Russia.
01:03:31.000But it won the best Oscar because he had been locked, just because he'd been locked up,
01:03:35.000even though I think he got no more than like 1% of the vote ever.
01:03:39.000Here you have, what signal does it send that we're locking up the former president and leading presidential opponent of the existing incumbent?
01:03:47.000Based on completely nonsensical charges that have no basis in fact, no basis in law, no basis in due process, no basis in constitutional restraint on the criminal justice process.
01:03:59.000Stay there, you're going to ride shotgun with us.
01:04:01.000Alan Dersh was really excited about this interview.
01:04:04.000On Twitter, Alan Dersh, and of course he's got the new best-selling book.
01:04:08.000Get Trump the threat to civil liberties due process our constitutional rule of law number one New York Times best-selling author from Skyhorse Can't wait to get the book I've got one being sent to me by Skyhorse that published my book The Great Reset in the War of the World that went to number one for two months number one of the New York Times But they would not listen is number one, but number one on all the other systems This is going to go to number one get Trump by Alan Dershowitz perfect timing with this book.
01:04:33.000I gotta tell you coming up We're back in 60 seconds joining hundreds of radio stations Everybody, tell your friends and family to tune in.
01:04:40.000You're going to hear from arguably, or not arguably, the top lawyer in the United States on what's really happening.
01:07:13.000Forget about the fact that he's the first former president to be prosecuted.
01:07:17.000He's the first presidential candidate to be prosecuted.
01:07:20.000And he's running against The head Democrat in the world, obviously, President Joe Biden.
01:07:27.000And when a popularly elected Democratic DA who swore to get Trump is going after the man running against, essentially, his boss, the Chief Democrat, he better have a slam-dunk, ironclad case.
01:07:40.000And I have to tell you, I haven't seen the indictment yet, but based on what I've seen, this may be the weakest case I've seen in my 60 years of practicing So this is a great danger to American democracy and the rule of law, and I hope that Americans and people all over the world will read my book at Trump as a way of saying to Bragg, we're holding you accountable.
01:08:05.000You may not be held accountable in New York, where everybody votes against Trump, but we're going to hold you accountable around the country, in front of bar associations, and in front of the Court of Public Opinion, because what you've done Endangers the rule of law.
01:08:20.000You know, today, it's a Republican Trump.
01:08:54.000In America, an indictment doesn't mean anything.
01:08:57.000It's just a piece of paper charging somebody with a president with something.
01:09:01.000But and I think every American has to be very concerned about what happened yesterday.
01:09:11.000Well, I'm not a top legal scholar like you, but studying history, this has never been done before for a reason.
01:09:17.000Why has no political party in our 240 plus year history ever done this?
01:09:21.000Why is this such a constitutional crisis as basically every analyst is saying?
01:09:28.000And as we know, there was a thought, perhaps, to go after a former president named Richard Nixon, and President Ford did the right thing.
01:09:36.000And he said, no, we don't do that in America.
01:09:38.000And he endangered his own presidential re-election by pardoning Trump, which was the right thing to do.
01:09:45.000I had dinner with President Ford some years after that, and he said that was the most important and principled thing he did during his presidency, preventing a Precedent being established that you go after former presidents criminally, even though there was very strong evidence that he had obstructed justice and paid bribes.
01:10:08.000Here, there's a non-disclosure agreement.
01:10:10.000Thousands of them are written every year.
01:10:12.000Nobody in history has ever then put on his corporate form, oh, the reason I paid $130,000 was to make sure my wife and family doesn't learn about the fact that I was accused of having an adulterous affair with a porn star.
01:10:25.000Why would anybody ever pay for a non-disclosure agreement and then disclose it?
01:10:29.000So never in history has anybody been indicted for that kind of Mickey Mouse crime, and then they stitch it together with a federal felony to try to make it a felony.
01:10:38.000That's not the way criminal justice should operate.
01:10:41.000You know, Thomas Jefferson once said that for a criminal statute to be constitutional, it has to be so clear that a person who is reading it while running, while running, I could understand it clearly.
01:10:53.000Now, I'm going to read this indictment while sitting with 60 years of experience and I can bet you that I will not understand how they could make a state felony out of a fake misdemeanor and a fake federal felony that nobody else previously wanted to prosecute.
01:11:11.000Mr. Jarvis, what's taking off your prestigious legal hat and putting on just an American citizen, you know, a historian hat?
01:11:19.000Why is the corrupt deep state bureaucracy doing a crazy Hail Mary like this?
01:11:24.000I mean, it'd be something if they had something to go after a former president, it'd still be unprecedented and explosive, but to do something with basically an unloaded gun, to threaten the world with banana republic status and not even have the goods, what do you think, just as an American, with your gravitas, why they're this desperate or why they're doing this?
01:11:44.000Well, first of all, I don't think you can say they.
01:11:45.000This was a decision made by one person, obviously, the elected district attorney, and he knows he can win this case in New York.
01:11:53.000Do you remember what happened to me on Martha's Vineyard?
01:11:55.000I defended President Trump in front of the United States Senate on constitutional grounds, and I lost all my friends on the vineyard.
01:12:05.000Everybody turned against us because I had exercised my and his constitutional right to defend themselves.
01:12:12.000If you just multiply that tenfold, that's what would happen to a judge in New York or a juror in New York who acquitted, who applied justice, actual justice to Donald Trump.
01:12:23.000He would never, ever again be part of New York life.
01:12:59.000But he doesn't want to lose it in front of a jury, and he probably won't lose it in front of a jury.
01:13:03.000As they say in New York, a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich, but in New York, when the name of the ham sandwich is Donald Trump, a petty jury will convict him as well.
01:13:13.000And even though he has very good lawyers, I think the likelihood that lawyers can persuade New York jurors to allow Donald Trump to walk away free and run for president and be re-elected It's very unlikely.
01:13:25.000So you're saying job number one is to move it out of New York City?
01:13:30.000Step number one is out of New York City.
01:13:31.000Step number two is to apply the statute of limitations.
01:13:43.000And number two, you can't indict him if he's not in New York.
01:13:47.000Well, when do you think they indicted him?
01:13:49.000They indicted him when he was in Florida.
01:13:51.000So the fact that they indicted him when he was outside of New York means they could have indicted him any day during the seven previous years and they didn't do it.
01:13:59.000And I think they blew the statute of limitations.
01:14:01.000Now, they will argue that, no, because he was out of New York, the statute provides that the statute of limitations tolls.
01:14:10.000But it's a nonsense argument in light of the fact that they did indict him while he was outside of New York, something they could have done for years.
01:14:17.000The reason they didn't indict him over the last seven years, previous prosecutors looked at the case and said, there's nothing to it.
01:14:25.000Those who are Legitimate neutral prosecutors and then you get a partisan political guy and he says no no no the first two years I said I didn't think there was a case in fact two of his assistants quit over that but I don't know did he get calls from George Soros from other contributors I don't know the answer to that but he obviously had pressure put on him.
01:14:48.000Well, I don't know anything about that.
01:14:49.000I don't know what he'd be blackmailed for.
01:14:51.000He seems like an honorable and decent man and a good lawyer and he had a good reputation.
01:14:55.000But, you know, when you're caught up in the political winds and you're in New York City where nobody has anything good to say about Donald Trump, I don't mean nobody, but people, voters.
01:15:07.000If you wear a MAGA hat in New York City, you know, you're going to get hit by a bike or you're going to get, you know, attacked and physically attacked.
01:15:23.000I was getting to your point earlier of, they can try this in New York, the court of public opinion's against them.
01:15:27.000I was asking in general, I understand the pressure in New York, why they're not thinking outside of just Manhattan that you brought up when you first came on.
01:15:35.000I mean, the fact that this is going to make Trump explode in popularity, then I guess we're just guessing at why they would do something so reckless.
01:15:54.000For example, on InfoWars, one of the main things that he spoke, one of his most famous statements was saying that, Tapwater is turning the frogs gay and will turn you gay too.
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01:20:01.000All right, welcome back to y'all show live Friday edition We have the top lawyer in the country, hands down, Alan Dershowitz with the new book, Get Trump.
01:20:22.000And Robert Barnes is riding shotgun with us, another successful, well-known lawyer, who's going to have some of his own questions as well.
01:20:28.000So you heard my point earlier, but I don't want to belabor that.
01:20:32.000All I'm getting at is we're seeing a massive backlash, and we know the feds, going to your point, did not indict Trump on these same, as you say, non- I guess I'm trying to just read minds here, but I just don't see how such an obviously explosive decision was made for the first time in U.S.
01:21:19.000We know, reportedly, he got a half a million dollars from George Soros.
01:21:23.000And whether he got a call from Soros or just anticipated that Soros might cut back On his contributions, if he doesn't do it, this can't be based on objective legal standards.
01:21:35.000Nobody else would ever be indicted for these kinds of absurd non-crime.
01:21:40.000So, plainly, he succumbed to pressure.
01:21:43.000He was pressured by his two former assistant district attorneys, one of whom wrote a book, saying that they ought to go after Trump.
01:21:51.000But he resisted that pressure initially, and then he succumbed to it.
01:21:57.000I don't know whether he got pressured from other people as well, but this is not a righteous, objective, neutral application of the law and the facts.
01:23:05.000Can you describe for people, I know the courts have sadly not meaningfully enforced it in my view, but that there is a limit on prosecutorial discretion in the Constitution, colloquially known as selective prosecution, under the First Amendment, enforceable through the Fourteenth Amendment against the states.
01:23:24.000Do you think President Trump has a grounds to bring a motion to dismiss for selective prosecution and can you explain to folks out there what that is and what that entails and that our Constitution does in fact have limits on this kind of excess of prosecutorial discretion?
01:23:40.000Oh, there's no question that there are constitutional limits.
01:23:43.000Selective prosecution is a hard case to make.
01:23:45.000This one is so obvious that any court should see through it.
01:23:50.000Nobody has ever been prosecuted or will ever be prosecuted in the future for doing anything like this.
01:23:56.000If the indictment is what we think it is, we're not absolutely positive.
01:24:17.000Is there... If the word liar appears in the dictionary, Michael Cohen is...
01:24:22.000I mean, he's the man who has lied to his lawyers, lied to the federal authorities, lied to state authorities, and I'll tell you a recent interesting vignette involving me.
01:24:31.000So his lawyers have now said, oh yeah, he was a liar in the past, he lied to everybody, but suddenly God has come down to him, lightning has struck, and he's suddenly turned into a complete truth teller.
01:24:40.000Well, two days ago, he did a tweet about me, which constituted a defamatory lie.
01:24:46.000He suggested that I was on Jeffrey Epstein's island with underage girls.
01:26:57.000Supreme Court, in my view, has watered those down, but one of them that still exists is a prosecutor cannot knowingly suborn perjury or things like that.
01:27:06.000Do you think there's the possibility that perjured testimony may have occurred in front of this grand jury, including by Cohen?
01:27:14.000I do think so, and I think it was also suppression of evidence.
01:27:17.000Remember that Costello was not called as a witness.
01:27:20.000Costello, who was Cohen's lawyer, he was not called as a witness.
01:27:24.000Obviously, Bragg wanted to keep him from the jury.
01:27:28.000But he volunteered and he first essentially burst into the grand jury room and said, you're going to have to listen to me.
01:27:34.000And then he testified that the hundreds of emails that he had sent to the D.A.
01:27:39.000to show to the grand jury were never shown to the grand jury.
01:27:41.000So I think there'll be a motion as well for suppression.
01:27:45.000Of exculpatory evidence in front of the grand jury, and we'll see whether or not there's also suppression of evidence under the Brady principle that should have been turned over and should be turned over to the defense.
01:27:59.000This is only the beginning of what will be, as you say, a very monumental case.
01:28:04.000When I think of the cases in American history, and I've written a book about that, America on Trial, going through all the great cases in American history, this comes close to the trial of Aaron Burr.
01:28:14.000The former Vice President of the United States who was put on trial by Jefferson for treason and defended himself, mostly himself he defended.
01:28:24.000Hold on, Alan Dershowitz, longer segment coming up.
01:28:27.000We're going to come right back with you and Robert Barnes.
01:29:05.000The biggest problem we face today is of course nuclear weapons.
01:29:10.000And so if we don't find a way to put disarmament first and foremost on the agenda, I'm not saying that in America there's not a lot of problems.
01:29:19.000But what I'm saying is none of those problems matter if none of us are alive.
01:29:23.000And the one thing that's going to kill us all is nuclear weapons.
01:29:25.000And a nuclear war is all but inevitable if we continue on the current policy track.
01:29:30.000That policy track is one that operates in total disregard for Russia and in total disregard for the reality of nuclear weapons.
01:29:37.000We treat nuclear weapons as if they're some sort of toy, some sort of gimmick.
01:29:40.000And ladies and gentlemen, I don't mean to be too blunt here, we're at war with Russia.
01:29:44.000It hasn't turned into a straight up nuclear showdown yet.
01:29:48.000But we have made it, we the United States, have made it our objective to achieve the strategic defeat of Russia.
01:29:57.000That's the official policy of the United States.
01:29:59.000And if you're Russia, and you hear a nuclear power like the United States, who's aligned with an anti-Russian military organization, NATO, saying that their mission is the strategic defeat of Russia, That means you can't trust the United States.
01:30:15.000You have to assume that everything the United States is doing is geared towards your destruction, and it's incumbent upon you to respond accordingly.
01:30:22.000The United States, the Biden administration, like Hillary Clinton, has no respect for Russia.
01:30:29.000And if you don't respect somebody, then you're ignorant of their realities.
01:30:34.000And the reality is, not only is Russia a peer-level military opponent, meaning that they're as good as we are, ladies and gentlemen, I'm not being... Look, I'm a former Marine.
01:30:44.000And I'm the kind of guy that says, you can't beat me in any kind of fight.
01:30:57.000No nuclear-armed power, like the United States or Russia, can lose a stand-up fight against a peer-level opponent, because that's existential.
01:31:05.000That means that your nation goes away.
01:31:06.000That's why we have nuclear weapons, to make sure that we don't disappear.
01:31:12.000Mutually assured destruction, but we've deviated from that.
01:31:15.000Now we have a new generation of people who think, no wait a minute, because Russia's weak, we can bully them, we can threaten them with nuclear conflict, and they'll back down.
01:31:23.000I'm here to tell you right now, Russia's not weak, Russia has a nuclear arsenal that's second to none, and they have a doctrine that says that they are attacked.
01:31:29.000This is why I don't believe in limited nuclear war, because it doesn't matter what we believe.
01:31:33.000We use one nuclear weapon against Russia, they'll launch everything at us instantly, and there's nothing we have that can shoot them down.
01:31:39.000Again, I just, I don't want to scare people.
01:32:05.000And that's our future if we don't find a way to get disarmament back on the table.
01:32:09.000That's why the 2024 elections are probably one of the most important elections in the history of the United States because literally the future of the United States and the world is on the line.
01:32:19.000We elect the wrong person, we don't get arms control, We all die.
01:32:31.000You have got to make the decision that you want to live.
01:32:34.000Therefore, you have to become engaged and insist whoever is in power in 2024 has to make arms control the number one policy objective of the United States.
01:32:45.000Because if we don't bring nuclear weapons under control...
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01:34:19.000I'm going to hand the baton now to Robert Barnes and Alan Dershowitz.
01:34:23.000Alan, would you like to get back to the whole Burr trial that you got caught off on?
01:34:28.000Yeah, but I just want to mention one thing about t-shirts.
01:34:31.000President Trump called me the other day just to tell me that he was going to endorse Get Trump, and he thought it was a great book that he hoped someday I'll vote for him.
01:34:40.000And I told him, look, I'll give you one bit of advice.
01:34:44.000Invest in a t-shirt company because once you have a mugshot, your mugshot will go on every t-shirt and it will sell more than anything since Frank Sinatra's mugshot.
01:34:54.000And it will be used probably as a campaign poster.
01:34:58.000And so that mugshot will become world famous.
01:35:00.000And I asked him if he would send me a signed copy of it.
01:35:04.000My, as you see in the back, my back wall, I have lots and lots of fun things posted.
01:35:09.000And so, getting his mug shot will be interesting, too.
01:35:14.000I need to hire you as my chief marketer.
01:35:18.000Now that I think of it, that's common sense, but that's a great idea.
01:35:22.000Yeah, getting back to Burr for a second.
01:35:24.000You know, Burr, as you know, killed Hamilton at a duel, but he wasn't prosecuted for that.
01:35:28.000He was actually sitting vice president when that happened, but he was prosecuted years later for treason.
01:35:34.000He tried to get a verdict of not guilty.
01:35:36.000The jury returned a verdict of not proven using the Scottish system.
01:35:40.000He objected to that, and the judge, who was John Marshall, the great Chief Justice of the United States, said, no, no, no, you're going to have to be satisfied with the verdict of not proven.
01:35:51.000But that trial, and then I would say some of the McCarthy trials, some of the civil rights trials, are the greatest trials in American history.
01:35:59.000The Rosenberg trial, there are so many.
01:36:01.000This is going to rank among them if it ever gets to trial.
01:36:04.000It's a strong possibility it won't get to trial.
01:36:07.000It'll be dismissed on statute of limitations or other grounds, but You know, it might get the trial.
01:36:11.000And if it gets the trial in Manhattan, he probably will be convicted.
01:36:15.000And then it'll have to go up to appellate courts.
01:36:17.000And appellate judges in New York are also elected.
01:36:19.000And so it may have to wait to get into the federal courts and up to the Supreme Court.
01:36:23.000But my prediction is, in the end, if the indictment is what we think it is, it will not survive.
01:36:30.000There has been some talk, Professor, about the possibility of issuing a gag order.
01:36:36.000I see this as misuse of bail authority, a violation of First Amendment principles.
01:36:40.000Can you just tell people why there's constitutional limits on such a gag order, why it should not apply here, and what's the risk that the political pressure in New York leads a judge to issue that kind of gag order?
01:36:54.000Gag orders like this have been issued in the past.
01:36:56.000They are, in my view, unconstitutional.
01:36:58.000We have to take seriously the notion that every American is presumed innocent unless and until they're found guilty by a jury.
01:37:05.000Innocent people can't be denied their First Amendment rights.
01:37:08.000By the way, it's not only Trump's First Amendment rights.
01:37:10.000It's the First Amendment right of everybody to listen to what Trump has had to say, and there are millions of people out there who want to hear him say.
01:37:18.000And so I don't think it would be constitutional to impose a gag order or a travel restriction if he's running for president.
01:37:25.000But, you know, judges have a lot of discretion and a lot of judges have made a lot of mistakes about bail conditions.
01:37:32.000And so I hope that when a judge makes a decision, he'll think more about the Constitution than about what his friends will say about his decision.
01:37:42.000In the context of Michael Cohen, for a witness who has, as you note, the extraordinarily poor track record that he does in making contradictory statements by his own admission, a self-confessed fraudster, by his own admission, a self-confessed liar, by obvious implication, a perjurer, if you're defending the president, How much would you make the reliability or lack thereof of Michael Cohen a key part of the trial strategy?
01:38:17.000Oh, it's a very key part of the strategy.
01:38:19.000When prosecutors put on witnesses that lie and that lie to the jury, juries see through that and don't like it.
01:38:26.000Look, people credit me and others for winning the O.J.
01:39:11.000On the merits for Bragg, it may be an easy case if it's held in Manhattan.
01:39:17.000If it's held anywhere else, I think it would be a hard case for him.
01:39:21.000Now, do you think that we, people have a right, of course, to an impartial jury.
01:39:26.000As you note, that's a very difficult thing to come by in New York City if your name is President Donald John Trump.
01:39:33.000What, can you remind people, what are your constitutional rights and what would a good judge do to try to find an impartial jury in Manhattan?
01:39:44.000Well, I think it would be an impossible task, but he'd have to give the defense enormous amount of leeway in questioning jurors.
01:39:52.000And, you know, let's assume you could get 12 jurors who never heard of Donald Trump.
01:39:56.000What kind of people would they be if they never heard of Donald Trump?
01:39:59.000Or 12 people who say they have no opinion on Donald Trump.
01:40:05.000A lot of potential jurors lie because they want to get on the jury.
01:40:10.000Everybody wants to be on the jury in the most historic case in modern American history.
01:40:14.000So you're going to get a lot of people lying about a lot of things in order to get on the jury.
01:40:19.000I have to tell you, I think it's an impossible job to try to get a fair jury in Manhattan.
01:40:23.000And I would hope that judges would see that.
01:40:27.000The motion to get a change of venue is sometimes appealable if that's denied.
01:40:33.000So it might get to a court of appeals fairly quickly and a court of appeals might send the case to a different borough or to upstate New York.
01:40:42.000But we'll see if judges have the courage to do the right thing here.
01:40:46.000The right thing is to get the case out of Manhattan.
01:40:49.000And what do you think, I don't know if you saw recently the federal civil trial that's coming up in New York where we'll get to see sort of a quick glimpse at what New York justice might look like if you're named Donald Trump.
01:41:00.000The court has ordered an anonymous jury.
01:41:04.000I've always been a little concerned about anonymous juries because it can create at least the impression of secret justice.
01:41:10.000The average person doesn't get to crowdfund or crowdsource I should say information that As in the Roger Stone case, we found out one of the jurors really had not been fully forthcoming.
01:41:20.000During the process, Blaine Maxwell's case raised some issues about that as well.
01:41:24.000What do you think about the possibility of an anonymous jury in the criminal case concerning Donald Trump?
01:41:32.000Anonymous juries are only anonymous during the trial.
01:41:35.000Their names then get revealed afterward, and their names get leaked.
01:41:39.000So I don't think an anonymous jury protects.
01:41:41.000An anonymous jury also sends a message to the jurors, you've got something to be worried about.
01:41:46.000And it reaffirms the notion that if people knew you were on the jury, they might take it out on you either physically or psychologically, emotionally, or in friendship ways.
01:41:59.000I don't think an anonymous jury provides much protection.
01:42:02.000It may provide a little bit of protection.
01:42:04.000They also may try to get a sequestered jury.
01:42:06.000But in this case, everybody already knows everything.
01:42:10.000So sequestering them during the trial won't really provide the kind of fairness that is required to have a fair trial.
01:42:18.000I just don't think it's possible to have a fair trial.
01:42:22.000People are going to Render verdicts and judgments based on their voting patterns.
01:42:27.000If they want to see Trump be president, if they don't want to see Trump be president, if they like his presidency in the past and they don't like it, that's not the basis for which justice is supposed to be done.
01:42:40.000We'll be right back with Professor Dershowitz discussing this unprecedented case of the Trump indictment.
01:42:45.000His book, Get Trumped, which unfortunately predicted and previewed much of the legal horrors we're witnessing.
01:42:50.000We'll discuss that and more right after the break.
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01:47:05.000welcome back to the Alex Jones show Robert Barnes here guest hosting with the one and only the inimitable Professor Alan Dershowitz, the greatest living constitutional lawyer in our time on matters of criminal law, civil law and political arena as well, has managed to cover all three in his lifetime.
01:47:32.000A rare someone that I would like to emulate over my legal career if I get the good fortune to do so.
01:47:38.000Professor Dershowitz, what about the timing?
01:47:41.000In other words, the public has a right to a speedy trial, Trump has a right to a speedy trial, but it may not be in the interest of justice to have a two-speedy trial in this case.
01:47:51.000What do you think the timing is if the case actually ultimately proceeds to a jury trial, if it gets passed, motions to dismiss, and things of that nature?
01:48:00.000What do you think the timing will be of an actual jury trial in this case?
01:48:05.000Hard to believe that there could be a jury trial in this case in this calendar year.
01:48:09.000I would think that will occur during the election year, which will make things even more difficult.
01:48:19.000I think the speedy trial and statute of limitations issues have already expired.
01:48:25.000I mean, these events occurred seven years ago.
01:48:27.000Can he get a fair trial based on the passage of time?
01:48:31.000And don't statutes of limitations have to be enforced fairly?
01:48:36.000But I do think that with motions with possible appeals that could be made of motions that we're probably thinking about 2024.
01:48:48.000In terms of the issues concerning the political weaponization and selective prosecution, Does this potentially open the door to Republican prosecutors in, say, some small county somewhere in the country deciding, well, we'll indict Hillary Clinton now.
01:49:04.000We'll indict, you know, we'll find something to indict Barack Obama on.
01:49:48.000This, if the indictment is what we think it is, will have violated that rule and lowered the bar.
01:49:54.000And that lowering of the bar will apply to Republicans, to Democrats, and for everybody.
01:50:02.000And this is a case that endangers all of our freedoms.
01:50:05.000If you can bring a criminal case on the basis of this kind of flimsy evidence in law, that means nobody is safe.
01:50:11.000Justice Jackson once said, excuse me, that any prosecutor can rummage through the statute I'd find something to pin on somebody, and that's not the way American law should apply, and that rule, too, has been violated by yesterday's actions.
01:50:29.000Yeah, it very much feels like a Berea prosecution.
01:50:32.000Show me the man and I'll find you the crime.
01:50:34.000One thing that's always stood out to me throughout this process is you identify in your book Get Trump and have talked about being problematic from the get-go.
01:50:43.000Usually, sometimes when you have a high-profile political person saying they're going to go after somebody, it's for something that's already happened in a clear criminal context.
01:50:53.000Like, oh, I'm going to go prosecute Enron or I'm going to go prosecute the white collar or whatever.
01:50:58.000Rare do you see, I'm gonna go prosecute that guy.
01:51:00.000I'm not sure on what yet, but I'm just gonna go get that guy.
01:51:03.000You know, the old famous Berea statement that Stalin, show me the man and I'll find you the crime.
01:51:08.000To some degree, to what degree does this raise issues of due process?
01:51:12.000That if we see the indictment and we see laws being applied in ways that could not have been really on fair notice of most people, as you pointed out very articulately at the beginning, non-disclosure agreements are done all the time.
01:51:23.000Nobody puts them in their public disclosure later or their internal documents.
01:51:27.000Oh, by the way, here's my hush money payment.
01:51:29.000It defeats the whole purpose of a non-disclosure agreement.
01:51:32.000Now, all of a sudden, all those people could be criminally prosecuted all across America How much is there an issue of fair notice and due process that might come up in these proceedings as well?
01:51:42.000There's no question there is an issue of fair notice.
01:51:45.000There is an issue of what the law calls lenity when you have ambiguous statutes.
01:51:49.000They have to be resolved in favor of the defendant.
01:51:53.000It all goes into the concept of targeting, of get Trump, Of due process violations of selective prosecution, all of these will be raised.
01:52:04.000Some of them are harder than others to get a judicial relief on them, but they are all part of also the court of public opinion.
01:52:12.000For example, the government's going to argue the statute of limitations didn't get told because he was out of the state.
01:52:19.000Meaning you couldn't indict him if he was in Washington, D.C., but they indicted him when he was out of the state.
01:52:25.000So that gives the lie to the notion that they couldn't have indicted him any day over the past seven years.
01:52:31.000Statute of limitations of misdemeanors, two years, felony, five years.
01:52:45.000Prosecutors looked at the case and they said, "There's nothing here."
01:52:48.000And so they didn't indict him and now they decided to change that seven years later.
01:52:53.000That should not survive a statute of limitations scrutiny, but it might because the New York Court of Appeals
01:52:59.000had a weird, weird decision about how you count the days being out of the state.
01:53:03.000But I don't think that's consistent with what the statute of limitations,
01:53:08.000which was enacted by the legislature, had in mind.
01:53:10.000And can you explain for folks that the statute of limitations
01:53:14.000isn't just like some little procedural aspects?
01:53:17.000Sometimes we hear, you know, technicalities and people use that excuse for how criminal defendants escape as they view justice.
01:53:23.000In fact, these are constitutional rights and liberties meant to impose fair notice is a critical component of what statute of limitations is all about.
01:53:31.000And that the rule of lenity, as you mentioned, is about protecting against the AU defendant
01:53:36.000being wrongfully prosecuted in a way they couldn't fairly anticipate and how we interpret
01:53:47.000Well, my life has been a life of trying to impose what other people think are technicalities
01:53:53.000and I think are the essence of what makes America the greatest democracy in the world,
01:53:59.000that we have rules of law and those rules of law have to be enforced fairly and equally
01:54:04.000in statutes and limitations are part of them.
01:54:06.000Look, we're seeing a challenge to statute of limitations.
01:54:08.000The Me Too movement got many states to eliminate statutes of limitations for rape and other sexual crimes, and that has created major problems because Memories disappear, witnesses disappear, and statutes and limitations have to be taken seriously.
01:54:24.000And I don't think any crime, other than perhaps murder, should be prosecuted beyond a certain period of time, five years, something like that.
01:54:35.000But they certainly shouldn't be extended.
01:54:38.000After the statute of limitations has expired, the Supreme Court has said that would be unconstitutional.
01:54:43.000So there is a constitutional dimension to statute of limitations.
01:54:49.000Have you been surprised, I've been surprised to some degree that many of my friends on the left, particular but not limited to it, within the legal world have, in my view, abandoned a lot of their principles either because of political pressure or because of just like Trump derangement syndrome and the rest.
01:55:06.000Have you been surprised at seeing that and are you, while you predicted it and get Trump and forecast this is where the world was going, are you still surprised that we're actually here, we're to this point?
01:55:21.000In my previous book, The Price of Principle, I talked about how so many civil libertarians, people like my former colleague Lawrence Tribe, and the ACLU are prepared to give up on the Constitution in order to get Trump.
01:55:57.000It's not only a threat to people who get indicted.
01:55:58.000It's a threat to have the rule of law subordinated to the preference of politics.
01:56:05.000And I think we're seeing more and more and more of that.
01:56:07.000There's less respect for the Constitution, and people on the hard left, particularly in the woke movement, have said over and over again, we don't care about freedom of speech, we don't care about due process, we know the truth.
01:56:19.000We know if you're a man who's been accused by a woman, you have to be guilty.
01:56:24.000We know if you're somebody who makes statements that are sexist or racist, There's no room for that under our First Amendment.
01:56:32.000We don't need to hear your point of view.
01:56:33.000That's what happened in Stanford when a group of people from the National Lawyers Guild organized an attempt to try to shut down and silence a federal judge whose views they disagreed with.
01:56:44.000National Lawyers Guild It's going to do that all over the country at 100 law schools where they have organizations.
01:56:51.000And so we have to fight back for every one of our amendments.
01:56:55.000Look, if I were writing the Bill of Rights, I might not put the Second Amendment in, certainly not in the ambiguous terms that is there today, but it's there.
01:57:03.000And we have to fight to preserve it, just like we have to fight to preserve the Fifth Amendment and the First Amendment.
01:57:58.000And what I feel is more important though, is your filtration systems.
01:58:02.000The fact that we spend one third of our life in our bed, everyone should have an air filter in your bedroom at least.
01:58:11.000You have no idea what you're missing if you don't.
01:58:14.000And if you're not filtering your water that you drink, the water that you cook with, or even the water that you Clean your fruits and vegetables with, again, you are not taking your health into your own hands like you can.
01:58:30.000And once you get back the shower filters, I propose you put together a package with all three to get everyone started with a healthier living.
01:58:40.000Well, let me interrupt you and then we'll come back from break ball and you'll get your point out.
01:58:43.000But I want to just say something about this.