Alex Jones joins Howard and Robin to discuss his controversial appearance on Piers Morgan's CNN show, Conspiracy Theories. Alex also talks about his trip to New York to confront Piers and how he dealt with the New York media establishment.
00:00:52.000It's having controversy on your show that gave you attention and made it the number one story in the United States for a whole week, Piers.
00:00:59.000Well, yeah, I mean, look, the fact that you have an opinion, a strong opinion, and you're arguing with Piers Morgan, that's always good theater, is it not?
00:01:07.000I mean, as a radio guy, we know that's good theater.
00:02:23.000I mean, isn't it a lot more comfortable just to do your own show and do your own thing?
00:02:28.000Yes, in fact, they begged me to go to New York, so I did it.
00:02:31.000And I'll be honest, I've gotten more and more reclusive just in my own office, my own crew.
00:02:37.000I just want to go home or I just want to, you know, go hang out with friends.
00:02:40.000It is not fun to go battle these people.
00:02:42.000And I think that's part of the irritation is just that once I got there, he was an empty suit.
00:02:49.000I mean, I'm excited to get up at 5 a.m.
00:02:52.000and come on your show because I feel like I know you from listening to you so much.
00:02:56.000But somebody like Piers Morgan And I'm not saying he might not be a nice person himself, but as a media person, he is a pure hatchet man with an agenda, and so I just called him on it.
00:03:08.000Yeah, I mean, you know, you have said that you were scared even to go to New York because you do have conspiracy theories, and you were afraid they were plotting to kill you in New York, right?
00:03:17.000Well, I mean, just to be honest, I mean, I've snuck into Bohemian Grove, I've covered Skull and Bones, I've covered military operations, I've been arrested in New York.
00:04:54.000I mean, I'm only 39, so I was basically in college, and they were telling me America was bad, the Second Amendment was bad, the Founding Fathers were bad, and I'd already read a lot of history, and I thought, man, this is authoritarianism.
00:05:16.000The local station, because I started out on Access Television, and the general manager said, we're flipping from Hard Rock to talk, and we're going to have Howard Stern on in the morning, G. Gordon Liddy in the afternoons, a bunch of other shows.
00:05:29.000And so that's how I got my start pretty much right away.
00:05:43.000I was also looking at maybe working for the Forest Service or something, because I'm a big outdoorsman.
00:05:47.000I never wanted to even be in politics.
00:05:49.000I was going to community college while I worked another job, and I was about to go to the University of Texas, and just every class was a bunch of socialist brainwashing, and so I thought, you know what?
00:06:01.000I was already kind of a history buff, and I'd read a lot of history books, and I thought, I've seen this before.
00:06:06.000This is authoritarianism, and I thought, I'm going to go down and do an AXS TV show because I started listening to talk radio and I started calling in to the shows and I wanted to be able to talk for more than just a minute.
00:06:20.000I wanted to defend the Second Amendment.
00:06:23.000I wanted to defend America instead of hearing it being run down every day.
00:06:28.000And I wanted to defend the real America, not the big corporate imperial America that we were already becoming as more of a libertarian kind of paleo-conservative, not a mainline conservative, kind of a Ron Paul-type conservative.
00:06:38.000And so I just had a hunger to fight for liberty, and just day one had success, but it grew slowly.
00:06:45.000Also, I'm surprised you hate Glenn Beck so much.
00:06:49.000I mean, it seems like you guys are on the same page with a lot of stuff.
00:07:23.000I mean, it's kind of hard to sum up your whole philosophy, but what do you think is going on?
00:07:30.000What I think is going on is that the United States, and this is all on record, in fact, I actually just posted up at Infowars.com, wake yourself and others up with these free Alex Jones films, information for listeners of the Howard Stern Show, so that people can go see the Army manual that I have in front of me, Internment and Resettlement Operations, FM 3-39.40.
00:07:53.000And it's not that I'm trying to scare people.
00:07:55.000If we don't realize that we have tyranny growing in this country, bipartisan, because special interests can just buy off the government and then control the whole economy instead of competing, if we don't admit that we have these dangers, we'll get another Stalin or Hitler or Mao.
00:08:10.000That's just the way these cycles work.
00:08:12.000And the United States is not immune from this tyranny.
00:08:54.000And he says, listen, as soon as I became White House Press Secretary, they said, look, this drone program that's illegal, killing people without warrants, without any proof, all over the world, you're to say it doesn't exist.
00:09:06.000And Gibbs says, but it's on record it exists.
00:09:22.000Is that our basic Bill of Rights and Constitution is being eroded.
00:09:26.000And when there's no checks and balances, automatically the worst tyrants in government, in corporations, in the culture, will automatically rise to the top.
00:09:35.000So a lot of dudes like you really do believe in...
00:09:38.000I mean, listen, that's what the whole second...
00:09:40.000Well, I don't disbelieve what he said.
00:09:42.000I'd be saying the whole Second Amendment was about, hey, if things get out of control, the people will have arms and then they can go and fight the government that becomes corrupt, right?
00:09:51.000I mean, That's why you're for the Second Amendment and for no gun limits whatsoever, right?
00:11:48.000Because he's just basically saying that, you know, there are these laws in the Constitution and people are trying to usurp our powers by blaming, you know...
00:12:02.000By saying, you know, you can keep guns out of a maniac's hands.
00:12:06.000And so we'll keep them out of everybody's hands to do that.
00:14:11.000You think that he was plotting against you, Bloomberg?
00:14:15.000I'm just guessing because he runs the city, and they look like detectives to me that I've seen around Bloomberg when I've been up in New York.
00:14:29.000They obviously had the cell phone tracking systems that the police under Homeland Security can dial into and pinpoint exactly where you're at.
00:14:36.000Just like your wife, if she has your phone code.
00:14:38.000Alex, do you ever think that you're paranoid, seriously?
00:14:52.000And we walk out and there's the guy turning, talking to his sleeve, bumping into the wall, and two other guys are walking up like in a Goodfellas movie, and I said taxi and jumped in a cab and left.
00:15:24.000We went down there and the police came.
00:15:27.000An undercover guy on video, this is in my film Truth Rising, points at me and they go and arrest me and almost pulled my shoulder out of its socket.
00:15:35.000So I've already been in a New York jail.
00:15:37.000Did you ever ask the police why they did that to you?
00:15:39.000I mean, you were protesting peacefully, right?
00:15:59.000And you know when cops are on your butt planning something, they had a look in their eyes like they were planning something.
00:16:05.000You know the difference when cops have just got you staked out to see if you're planning something, and the difference when they're acting really aggressive and bugging their eyes out at you like they want to tear your head off.
00:16:13.000And my instinct was, get the hell out of here.
00:17:40.000You've got to be making serious money, right?
00:17:43.000I do make a little bit of cash, and that's why I've got around 50 crew members and news people, and I don't know how many square feet, like 14,000.
00:18:53.000I was reading about when all air traffic was grounded for two days, 15, 16 flights of the Bin Ladens out of the country with the FBI helping load them on planes to fly them out, including his, you know, sisters and brothers and people.
00:19:07.000I... I remember reading about Colonel Stephen Butler in the San Jose Mercury News, wrote a letter.
00:19:13.000And I called the guy at home and he said, I can't talk to you, I'm getting threats.
00:19:16.000They started court-martialing him over it.
00:19:36.000And this came out in the Toronto News, New York News, which is back of the paper, that they were ordered to let 15 of the 19 hijackers in from Saudi Arabia the year before 9-11.
00:19:47.000It was flagged as Al-Qaeda, and they were told by the CIA... So what you're saying is, you believe that somehow the government used these guys, let them do their thing...
00:19:59.000And therefore, it would disrupt the world and would sort of enable us to go into Iraq and to go into possibly Iran.
00:22:01.000Now, specifically, I did an hour-long show four years ago that got picked up.
00:22:07.000A hour-long TV special that I did that got picked up by the Huffington Post about four or five years ago.
00:22:13.000So it's become this meme where they took out of context where I was showing literally more than 100 articles.
00:22:19.000And I actually printed some of those off on the source for you right now.
00:22:23.000So I was reading about bisphenol A. And about hydrofluorosilicic acid and several other chemicals that are in the water, but also in the particular plastics that line the juice box I was showing on air.
00:22:37.000And I said, you know, in this whole hour-long breakdown rant slash news...
00:22:44.000While I'm showing all these articles in major studies about how the fish are becoming bisexual, the frogs, the amphibians are becoming bisexual, how the fish are committing suicide because of the Prozac in the water, the shrimp are committing suicide.
00:24:01.000You know, I can buy some of your argument, but you don't We have to go that far out to make the case that the government is not protecting...
00:24:13.000But maybe he does, or else then he doesn't have a radio show.
00:24:30.000The serotonin reuptake inhibitors, one of hundreds of chemicals in the runoff, the serotonin reuptake inhibitors in the Prozac family, Luvox, all that stuff.
00:24:41.000So when you're having a nice day, everything's fine.
00:24:44.000But that's why the insert says can make you commit suicide or go on a killing spree because when you have a bad trip, it's in the psychotropic hallucinogen class, then you don't have the compulsion control anymore.
00:24:57.000And so it's the same thing with shrimp.
00:25:35.000Okay, because of my work and countless others' work and mothers caring about their kids, And they are, by law in Canada and Europe, removed bisphenol A, one of just dozens of these plastic chemicals that are, quote, estrogen mimickers.
00:25:49.000And what the Huffington Post didn't report four years ago when they made fun of me was the rest of my video.
00:25:54.000They clipped out that short clip where I was saying, why is breast cancer up 3,000% in the United States?
00:26:00.000And why are we leading the world in it?
00:26:02.000And I showed studies that bisphenol A hyperfeminizes women.
00:26:06.000That's why they're going into puberty now at 6, 7, 8 years old, having It makes males feminine, women hyperfeminine, and it accelerates the aging of the cells in the mammaries and other sexual cells that are generally the ones that end up developing cancer.
00:26:27.000At the cellular level, has the breast DNA of an 85-year-old woman.
00:27:49.000Sure, but I shouldn't have let the meltdown happen a year and a half ago on my show, because it was first Martin Sheen and Emilio Estevez that were listeners.
00:27:55.000It was Emilio that turned him on to the show and my films, and then Charlie invited me out there.
00:28:00.000He called me back in 2005. Was it culture shock for you when you went over his house?
00:28:29.000He goes through phases where he goes and rents an industrial telescope to be able to shoot video with the Department of Defense telescope of geoengineering going on.
00:28:41.000And then he goes through a thing where he's studying ancient manuscripts.
00:28:45.000And then he goes through a phase where seven hookers a day.
00:31:09.000Quite frankly, it's almost an elitist thing nowadays, and I feel bad for folks that don't have the money to have somebody stay at home and take care of the kids.
00:31:16.000But, I mean, it is doctors, lawyers, scientists, artists.
00:35:50.000They fired everybody on the aircraft carrier!
00:35:52.000And what about this guy who's in the military who just said he's the guy who put the bullet in bin Laden's head and he's saying that he can't even get any kind of help in terms of assistance or money from the government.
00:36:18.000Well, Saudi Arabian major group that is one of the major controllers of that, right along with the Queen of England, the Saxe-Coburg Gophers.
00:36:29.000The Rockefellers are a huge, huge part of it.
00:36:32.000It is the old mega-money that makes their money out of government contracts and monopolies.
00:36:37.000I like Michelle Obama on the Oscars, Alex.
00:36:41.000I think she's terrific, an excellent representative.
00:38:20.000This is something that predates even the FDA. The Food and Drug Administration.
00:38:25.000They were allowed, and the big secret in food over the last hundred years, that if you called something a food additive, you could add addictive and toxic things.
00:38:34.000A lot of things that are toxic, like aspartame, are also addictive, which they now admit is causing type 2 diabetes.
00:39:00.000They fry liquid plastic and you eat it.
00:39:03.000Everybody knows what that does to you.
00:39:05.000So the truth is, it's so adulterated and designed to be able to sit there for a year so they can still cook it and so no one can ever get food poisoning.
00:39:13.000It's been irradiated with so many additives.
00:39:29.000No, they do it because they want to create homes for the shrimp at the bottom of the ocean, and they need to mummify your colon for a home so the shrimp can live in them.
00:40:10.000And he's the current science czar, and he did this for the Rockefeller Foundation, and he says in 74, we need a global government to carry out an orderly population reduction, and he says we need to add chemicals to the food and water to reduce fertility.
00:40:23.000Now, you can argue there's too many people.
00:41:13.000You can pull up her writings, university writings, scans of the letters, in the National Archive where she said, we're going to pose as liberals so that blacks trust us.
00:41:23.000We're going to hire black doctors and preachers to sell them on a welfare state, to take over the black community and break up their families so we can abort them.
00:41:31.000And they abort fully 52% of blacks since Roe v.
00:42:41.000The problem is medical tyranny started with abortions, and then it started with the mentally ill, and then it started with the handicapped, and then it went to everybody in a place called Nazi Germany.
00:43:12.000Your wife gets pregnant, and you find that the kid has horrible birth defects, it's going to have a miserable life, lots of health problems, you would get an abortion, right?
00:43:35.000The eugenicists are talking about the government screening stuff and saying if you're aggressive, where they say the child can be mentally ill, and they call being aggressive and loving liberty mentally ill.
00:44:33.000Who's well-read in study history, he said, yeah, you're right about a lot of this, but our government's not that bad, and it's going to be okay, and things will work out.
00:44:57.000I want to get people to not be cookie cutter and to think outside the whole left-right paradigm.
00:45:01.000And that's where I'm different than Glenn Beck.
00:45:03.000Here's my issue with Glenn Beck, okay?
00:45:05.000Glenn Beck behind the scenes, and I know you went through this too, Howard, because I've read your book and watched your film and have listened to the show whenever I get a chance to drive in the morning, you know, for 20 years.
00:46:00.000I'm in New York two years ago to go on The View, on ABC, and on CNN, and on NBC. But I was going on Fox News, and it's lunch, and I'm eating a steak right next door at that restaurant, right next door to Fox Center.
00:46:16.000I'm supposed to go on not one, but two different Fox shows, and the producers come over, and a well-known Fox personality, and goes, I really got to apologize.
00:46:25.000You know, I've been on Fox many times.
00:46:26.000Over there, probably 15 times before that.
00:46:39.000And I'm sitting there, and they tell me, yeah, Glenn Beck is crawling the walls over there, saying, you know, people We're going to pay for it, and he's going to hurt careers of underlings if we let you on these other shows.
00:46:53.000And by the way, he's done it over and over and over again.
00:46:58.000So in other words, he will actively go out and try to undermine your career and stop you from working.
00:47:02.000And whatever we cover three days later is on his show.
00:47:08.000There was a story about three or four months ago going around where he was putting out fake TV commercials of a ULIN agenda 24 We didn't tell one weekend person.
00:47:31.000One person, they posted it, I saw it, called him and said, what the hell is that?
00:47:48.000He's watching me 24 damn 7, and it's creepy.
00:47:53.000Yeah, and wouldn't it be weird, like, if, let's say you're right about everything, the world, you know, goes pretty much away the way we know it, and you and Glenn Beck are the only two guys left because you guys have been, you know, stockpiling food and everything.
00:48:50.000They've been caught lying so much that now no one believes anything, and so they think that I'm a blood-drinking gay lizard who is all my children.
00:49:00.000Type in Alex Jones as a homosexual lizard.
00:49:03.000I'm a gay space alien lizard who's a KGB agent, and so what's happened is the general public doesn't know what to believe anymore.
00:49:13.000And so you were asking, what was the last question?
00:49:15.000Have you ever had gay Have you had gay sex?
00:50:12.000The Nazis and all of them, I'm not exaggerating.
00:50:15.000I am like the number one, I'm actually proud of this, most I think I cover some of the conspiracy topics that they want to hijack and run, and the fact that I'm not letting them take over the debate really pisses them off.
00:50:45.000and there's a jewish mafia there's a you know muslim mafia there's irish mafia italian mafia and so what's happened is some of the jewish interest groups like adl and others they've gone way too far demonizing people that criticize what you know like oh bernie madoff's corrupt oh you're anti-semitic no bernie madoff's a crook like ken lay who's not jewish is a crook are we saying people the english lay lay you know without you're saying british are bad you're racist you like in my or or you know uh...
00:51:11.000this or that they use it as a way to be to divert people off so certainly there's plenty of corruption so Certainly, they try to use the anti-Semitic label to demonize anybody who is standing up for the Palestinians.
00:51:43.000So my issue is, the nastiest people...
00:51:46.000The people I've run into, I've got to say, are the Jew-obsessed folks, who, by the way, think no one can be successful unless they're Jewish.
00:51:54.000So now they say, I'm Jewish, and I've never had any success from working hard.
00:51:58.000I've been successful because the Jews have done everything for me.
00:52:37.000Yeah, my friends, one of them's a famous rodeo world champion, and the other guy's a country music singer, the Steiner Brothers, have a really nice ranch.
00:52:47.000We go out there, we can shoot it a mile away with.50 calibers.
00:52:51.000And with a Barrett.50 cal, it's handheld artillery.
00:52:54.000In fact, go to informworks.com, I'll post up there some of our gun shows we've shot.
00:52:59.000Have you ever had to pull a gun out on anyone?
00:53:13.000I bought, when I was about 18, the first gun I walked in and bought, that I bought at a Walmart, was a Ruger range rifle, especially like a wood-stocked M16, but semi-auto.
00:53:30.000For me, but I've never sold any of them.
00:53:33.000I literally, most of my guns have doubled, some have tripled, some have quadrupled, and I've got them distributed, you know, all over the state, basically, and it is a big part of my nest egg.
00:55:52.000Listen, here's the issue, and let's just all be honest about it.
00:55:55.000I'm a red-blooded American, and I, because I played baseball, you know, just locally in golf and stuff in the neighborhood of Brooklyn, upscale your golf course area, I hung out with all the older kids who were like 15, 16, 17, and I heard them talking about all their girlfriends, and then the kids my age would lie about all the girls they'd had.
00:56:12.000So I thought I was behind the curve when I was like 12, and then, you know, the 15-year-old...
00:56:17.000Did you know what you were doing sexually at 12?
00:58:45.000So you believe he's just entertaining?
00:58:48.000I believe Alex believes what he believes in, but I think he also has the pressure of being an entertainer, and he has to keep coming up with stuff.
01:00:18.000Did you see the big German studies and MIT studies finding that it appears reality is a simulation and there's something holding it together and that it's organized?
01:04:54.000No, just incredible epiphanies times a hundred, where you have amazing understanding, but also things open up, and it's called discernment, and then you...
01:05:04.000When you can actually study history and evil and also look into the spirit of evil and then look into what the spirit of evil is doing, that is a vision and an understanding of the globalists and the snuffians.
01:08:57.000What they say they're going to do is they're going to, in vaccines, inject us.
01:09:02.000With what they call an anti-stress or anti-drug use vaccine.
01:09:07.000But they're not even going to tell you.
01:09:08.000And if you look this up, they go, a new vaccine, this is three years ago, is going to cure, and this is where it's all going, is going to cure stress.
01:09:17.000They're genetically engineered nanotech viruses that go in and eat selective ganglia and neuron clusters in the cerebral cortex and other areas, which are a selective lobotomy where you will be able We're a biological android, and we have evidence they're already testing this on the military and others.
01:09:37.000So soon, if we don't turn this around, the plan, you're hearing the ultimate secret here, is to add to flu vaccines and other things.
01:10:12.000Dr. Salk, the original polio vaccine had SV40 and killed considerably more than 100 million Americans that have gotten cancer since the 50s.
01:10:21.000It killed them with that weaponized monkey virus, the SV40. Look it up.
01:10:26.000And the original stocks they're still using is what's causing this.
01:15:34.000And I go in there, and I'm like, is this on purpose that they put me in a bathroom that literally had, like, diarrhea projectiled across a wall in some type of...
01:15:43.000Who was the art guy that splattered all the paint?
01:18:53.000We'll be back right after these words.
01:18:55.000Among the things we have to accomplish before the end of the show today, we will let the Iron Sheik talk about why he's upset that wrestling was dropped from the Olympics.