Bannon's War Room - January 24, 2023


Episode 2466: The Grassroots Are Bailing On The RNC


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

167.68378

Word Count

9,269

Sentence Count

199

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. This is the cry of the dying regime pray for our enemies. Pray for the enemies because we're going with the evil and pray for the weak


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going with the evil
00:00:10.060 on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people
00:00:16.680 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
00:00:20.600 the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
00:00:24.180 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
00:00:32.000 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
00:00:39.920 country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k van
00:00:47.100 patriots joe biden loves to brag about his cars especially his corvette which he can easily pay
00:01:00.100 for with his dirty money deals for the big guy from countries like russia china and ukraine but what
00:01:06.260 about regular americans let's look at the numbers in a chalk talk car affordability it has never been
00:01:13.080 worse in american history than it is right now the average car payment because of rising interest
00:01:17.980 rates just ballooned to seven hundred and seventy seven dollars per month the highest ever and i
00:01:24.080 assure you not a lucky number triple seven let's look at it this way how many weeks of work does it
00:01:29.860 take to pay for the average priced new car which is now almost fifty thousand dollars well for the last
00:01:36.340 decade before joe biden it was very stable at about 34 weeks of work the low was 32 weeks the high was
00:01:42.720 36 joe biden takes office this number starts to catapult higher it now takes 44 weeks of work
00:01:50.440 to afford a new car average earner average new car price this is the tangible pain the tangible reality
00:01:59.060 of the biden economic crisis and what it is inflicting upon you
00:02:03.400 hey uh steve uh tell me coupled with the pmi data that just got out today what is uh
00:02:11.900 how big a deal is this right now sir no it's an incredibly big deal and by the way don't take
00:02:16.760 my word for it let me quote uh the pmi that was released today purchasing managers index
00:02:20.620 was put out by s&p global the global ratings agency here's what the chief economist of s&p global
00:02:26.460 chris williams had said about this data that came out right as you went to air it was the seventh
00:02:30.660 straight month that s that manufacturing pmi from s&p was below 50 meaning in contraction recession he
00:02:37.420 said quote the u.s economy has started 2023 on a disappointingly soft note with business activity
00:02:44.780 contracting sharply again in january he also continues on and says the rate of decline is
00:02:51.140 among the steepest seen since the global financial crisis and he's talking there about the global
00:02:56.520 financial crisis of 2008 and 2009 okay among the steepest declines since that terrible time in
00:03:03.080 american history and by the way as bad as 08 was 0809 as bad as the dot-com bubble was the 1970s were
00:03:09.160 as i point out there in my chalk talk and that data comes from cox automotive uh car affordability
00:03:14.740 has never been worse in u.s history it has never been tougher for the average worker to buy a new car
00:03:22.380 again these are the tangible kitchen table realities that are being faced by american families because of
00:03:28.560 the terrible created crises crises plural of joe biden and to me the three biggest are the
00:03:33.900 inflationary crisis the border crisis and then his escalation in ukraine and they are all interrelated
00:03:39.440 by the way they all come from a place of permanent washington and globalism they are all terrible
00:03:44.100 for the prosperity and security of regular working americans uh steve real quickly how do people get to
00:03:51.800 your uh sub stack and all your uh everything you're putting up as far as your content goes with the chalk
00:03:56.860 talks you bet please find me on the twitter i'm at cortez steve cortez with an s thank you
00:04:02.000 thank you brother uh ben harnwell you're going to stay on top of uh i can't believe there's gambling
00:04:08.620 going on in this establishment all the updates on the purge the current purge of just the corrupt
00:04:13.380 officials only the corrupt officials in the ukraine correct how do people get to you on the on war room
00:04:18.360 rome how they get to all your content sir thanks steve uh it's simply my surname
00:04:24.180 harnwell at harnwell on getter and that's why i'll be updating not only this but but also the
00:04:30.880 other stories that we've been talking about especially in the vatican over the last few days
00:04:34.540 pope benedict's got a new book out we're going to try to get ben on tonight or tomorrow new
00:04:39.940 blockbuster book out about uh what benedict really thought about pro from the grave he's telling us
00:04:44.940 about what he thinks about pope francis so we'll get into all that ben thank you very much
00:04:48.000 thanks steve god bless a very special guest and with every thank you sir with every special guest
00:04:53.140 we want to do a cold open let's introduce our guest with a cold open from this morning morning mika
00:04:57.000 with with with with with how much the russians have been able to infiltrate uh u.s the united
00:05:05.440 states government and and the fact that they're still mainstream people they keep talking about a
00:05:10.480 quote russian hoax as if they didn't even read the second part of the muller report it's a great
00:05:18.000 point joe because they're using this mcgonigal case those people you're talking about to discredit
00:05:23.100 the russia investigation because mcgonigal played some small role in it when actually to your point
00:05:28.400 what it shows is how deeply the tentacles of russian influence i don't understand this can you
00:05:35.100 get a guy bought off by the russians working on a russia investigation that ends up deciding trump
00:05:41.580 doesn't have contacts with russia how stupid these people think we are he's on the take from the
00:05:48.480 russians from a russian oligarch and he gives trump the good housekeeping seal of approval that the fbi does
00:05:57.600 and they're they're somehow i don't understand how they turned this against if anything it undermines
00:06:04.180 the fbi's conclusion uh that that donald trump has a clean bill of health there when again even the
00:06:10.840 republican senate intel committee said that wasn't the case okay yeah it's a fair point we have the
00:06:17.620 we have the uh we have the hero of the five days that changed america in the house uh congressman
00:06:23.420 matt gates uh do you take umbrage with what morning uh mika said this morning sir well if you follow
00:06:28.780 my tortured predecessors tortured logic there first the muller report convicts donald trump
00:06:36.200 then because the fbi is compromised by russians it exonerates donald trump and really it's the
00:06:42.160 russians fault because the fbi was trying to cover for trump that is the type of gymnastics that they are
00:06:49.380 having to do to cope with this but i am spitting mad about the fact that we were called conspiracy
00:06:55.000 theorists and putin's lawyer meanwhile you had adam schiff and eric swalwell out there saying that
00:07:02.240 donald trump was a russian agent and that they had more than circumstantial evidence that he was a
00:07:09.120 russian agent well guess who the russian agent was the fbi counterintelligence chief in new york who was
00:07:15.820 involved in investigating trump taking money from oleg deripaska oleg deripaska has become like the
00:07:22.640 forrest gump of every crazy deep state scandal first you have robert muller trying to get 25
00:07:30.900 million dollars out of oleg deripaska uh that was reporting by john solomon to try to go free bob
00:07:37.380 levinson we'll come back to that name bob levinson that name strikes a bell real real interesting
00:07:42.800 there's no coincidences right right so so muller bleeds and by the way deripaska pays the money he pays
00:07:49.680 more the money then they accuse manafort who at that point was like a glorified rnc delegate counter
00:07:55.920 for the campaign of sharing polling information with people in deripaska's network that this was
00:08:01.600 the great link to russian collusion that joe scarborough was just referencing in that click
00:08:06.180 clip and then lo and behold it's oleg deripaska illegally getting favors out of this counterintelligence
00:08:14.820 agent as this person is trying to lift sanctions on deripaska and and by the way the very person
00:08:21.620 that they tried to shake my family down you know over talk about that was bob levinson absolutely when
00:08:27.680 the new york times and the department of justice and the fbi were pushing this hoax on me two years ago
00:08:33.440 they try to shake down my father with a criminal scheme and my family saying that we need 25 million
00:08:39.720 dollars to go rescue some guy named bob levinson otherwise we're going to smear your son matt gates
00:08:44.880 and it turns out that it was the very same spy bob levinson and the very same dollar amount 25 million
00:08:52.440 dollars that robert muller had asked from deripaska but here's what we know as a consequence of this
00:08:58.020 revelation today our fbi is corrupted by political interests domestically and compromised by foreign
00:09:07.440 interests financially that is that is how you have to evaluate the national security state right now
00:09:12.980 and my colleague dan bishop had a very good idea that we have to break up the fbi and put fbi agents
00:09:20.040 who are patriotic americans all over this country not under the spell and the guise of some head shed
00:09:26.540 at the j edgar hoover building but instead under the jurisdiction of the u.s attorneys who are confirmed by
00:09:33.340 the senate appointed by the president and have a broader structural accountability system than you
00:09:38.920 see with an fbi that's taken illegal foreign cash run any illegal domestic political operations here at
00:09:45.000 home and by the way i think they're after biden now just because the deep state and the fbi were for
00:09:51.780 biden in 2020 doesn't mean they're for him in 2022 i think a lot of this stuff you're seeing with the
00:09:56.800 documents right now being unearthed that is to get biden out of the way because they would rather roll with
00:10:02.520 gavin newsom or kamala harris or mayor pete then roll with this guy who's clearly the reorganization
00:10:07.940 of the fbi is one thing let's put a pin in that for a second what about the real investigation it
00:10:12.500 can't just be this one guy what are we going to do and what what are you guys going to do why the
00:10:16.740 subpoena is not flying this morning oh listen we are sending a letter today demanding a briefing from
00:10:22.100 ray i want christopher ray to come into the house judiciary committee and explain to us what are not
00:10:28.260 anything about the ongoing case but what are we doing to protect the country if this guy was the
00:10:32.820 counter intel chief in new york and was taking illegal cash and doing illegal favor mika said
00:10:38.000 had just a small role oh yeah yeah yeah the head by the way this guy wasn't in topeka kansas he was in
00:10:43.540 new york doing counterintelligence the heart of counterintelligence right right and and and was
00:10:48.140 out there running operations off the books for no less than oleg daripaska according to the department
00:10:55.180 of justice now but here's what i know as a florida man when you see one cockroach run across the floor
00:10:59.480 there are 10 behind the walls and the russians did not run this play to compromise a senior
00:11:05.280 counterintelligence official once especially if it worked can you imagine that you know what we're
00:11:10.000 gonna go try buy off mcgonagall and hey it worked we will never try this again no this is pervasive and
00:11:16.380 by the way russia is not the only one that does it but jim jordan put it best when it was going on
00:11:21.380 they always accuse us of the stuff they're doing right and so it turns out they had to accuse trump
00:11:27.920 of colluding with russia because he was the only one who wasn't you had the hillary campaign clinton
00:11:32.660 campaign colluding with russia you had the fbi counterintelligence chiefs doing favors for russian
00:11:37.580 oligarchs and taking illegal foreign cash and they want to accuse trump of colluding with russia
00:11:42.540 they will do this over and over again because to them it is about centralizing power and they will do
00:11:48.940 anything to keep power and they'll use foreign money to fund it and they'll use domestic politics
00:11:54.120 to try to execute is the fbi and the doj compromised in your opinion how is that even a question look they
00:12:01.040 they were doing illegal favors for russians and taking illegal cash all the while accusing trump
00:12:07.580 in his campaign of the same wait what these guys act like trump you know maybe looking at a rendering for
00:12:14.780 one day a trump hotel moscow with some sort of deep financial interest and there was actual money
00:12:19.900 being you know being sent to the united states these senior officials there were actual efforts by
00:12:25.500 mcgonigal to try to get daripaska off the sanctions list i it is astonishing and this ought to be the
00:12:32.840 biggest story in the world that the united states of america cannot trust our national security apparatus
00:12:38.580 because they are corrupted home and they are compromised by cash abroad we had miranda divine on here
00:12:43.600 yesterday about her new york post piece about the 22 point memo that that hunter biden sent to devon
00:12:49.880 archer tucker talked about it last night tucker's going to do more tonight we're going to have rudy on
00:12:53.720 tomorrow um is that that that that biden got a briefing right before he went to ukraine in 2014
00:13:00.560 the hunter biden memo is quite detailed 22 points like he's never done before does not get the coke and
00:13:06.100 the hookers you know what she just normally his emails are if that is shown that it came off a
00:13:12.120 unclassified briefing is that enough to remove biden in your opinion well i think that the
00:13:17.660 republicans aren't going to have to take out the trash for the democrats because they're going to do
00:13:21.260 it themselves and and that's what you're observing right now so i would caution my republican colleagues
00:13:25.920 against swallowing this hook you know hole i think instead we ought to allow the democrats to
00:13:32.600 feast on biden look you even had people like chris coons out there on television you got joe manch
00:13:38.500 from delaware yeah chris coons out there saying well you know the special counsel's been appointed
00:13:43.200 we got to let him do the work and by the way this puts biden in a very different position than trump
00:13:47.040 was in when a special counsel was appointed regarding his activities because we were pointing out
00:13:51.840 how ludicrous the whole construct was and this rob her guy who got appointed this is a capo in the
00:14:00.080 deep state this is a high level person who was rosenstein's pulling guard when rosenstein was in
00:14:07.260 power and this guy is going to take orders from the people who really run things i think that
00:14:13.540 biden ultimately ends up are you guys going to call him in in front of you guys yes no need why would
00:14:20.460 we call her in he's every the answer to every question is going to be ongoing investigation
00:14:24.220 i think the better the better thing to do is to call garland in and to call ray in and say you know
00:14:29.840 we have been compromised you know it was your people that were causing that compromise and we want
00:14:34.860 to know the damage to the country that it caused how do people follow you on that rep matt gates at
00:14:38.860 matt gates everywhere on the internet the hero of the five days that changed america congressman
00:14:44.200 matt gates by the way magnificent job the war room as you know the posse absolutely you're number one
00:14:50.020 thanks brother congressman gates thank you very much carrie lake next in the war room
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00:16:07.160 okay in the financial times of london if you see right there uh ex-fbi agent accused of violating
00:16:15.540 u.s sanctions by aiding oligarch der posky that that's a very softball way of saying it it's he's a uh
00:16:22.640 he's a spy for the russians okay from the fbi not that he broke sanctions that's that's ridiculous
00:16:28.600 matt gates is going to come back and join us in studio from 5 to 5 30 and we're going to have joe
00:16:34.160 can also join us in studio so today's show is going to be lit i want to go out to california
00:16:38.760 uh the wall-to-wall coverage we've got a real america's voice of the rnc winter meeting uh john
00:16:45.080 frederich your assessment to date sir of uh of where where the grassroots stands and all this
00:16:50.660 i think if we did a grassroots vote steve it would probably be 85 15 for harmeet dylan or mike
00:16:59.800 lindell if you combine the two we're live here in dana point basically to be honest with you what
00:17:05.480 we are representing right now steve is welcome to the resistance i mean we are basically the rebel
00:17:11.580 alliance here this is the maga rebel alliance we've got a group of uh trump supporters like me
00:17:18.700 and those that are america first and maga that are 100 against ron and mcdaniel getting another
00:17:26.100 term uh after five losses in a row and the complete disaster that's gone on it we're done
00:17:32.800 giving her money so this is basically the maga rebel alliance out here now harmeet dylan and mike
00:17:38.960 lindell combined what they've got to do on friday is they've got to keep uh ron and mcdaniel from
00:17:45.560 winning on the first ballot keeper under 86 mike lindell is going to be here wednesday he's got
00:17:51.680 more votes than people realize everybody's writing this guy off if he can get 10 12 13
00:17:58.920 then mcdaniel's in big trouble now president trump has not weighed in uh officially or in the media but
00:18:07.860 he is sending his top three surrogates here behind the scenes uh to work on the surrogates behind the
00:18:14.740 scenes chris lasavita chief of staff uh chris is in charge of his um number one major pack uh kind
00:18:22.380 of a household name suzy wiles his chief of staff is going to be here and uh my direct liaison to the
00:18:28.620 campaign they're not too happy with me right right now clayton henson so they're going to be meantime uh
00:18:35.160 harmeet dylan is gaining traction guys this thing she's behind but she's got a shot here now they had
00:18:41.320 to bring in their own lobbyist to lobby for votes and that is led by get this kelly and conway
00:18:47.780 amongst others they also to counter me are bringing in to lobby votes you you it the morning talks show
00:18:58.240 host of salem media that's simply to counterbalance me now is there anybody in america that is at this
00:19:06.160 meeting that gives a rat's ass what you you it has to say this is unbelievable the combination
00:19:11.780 of people they brought together for mcdaniel to try to uh to try to win this thing but the problem is
00:19:20.400 donors are abandoning mcdaniel the grassroots is abandoning her and so we're going to keep fighting
00:19:26.260 our goal is to bring you our audience the mago audience steve on war room and my show transparency
00:19:33.760 as to what is going on mike lindell is going to be with us live tomorrow for an hour and 15 minutes
00:19:39.160 uh he's the only one that agreed to show up for the forum i have uh we're going to let him take
00:19:45.220 questions it's an open forum it's on our website if you're in the area come out and see mike it's at
00:19:51.520 the marriott residence inn from uh 1 p.m to 2 15 p.m that is going to be a tomorrow wednesday
00:19:59.880 rav is going to be carrying that life so is my radio show what's that the residence in marriott if
00:20:04.920 you want to come come out meet mike we're going to give him an hour to plead his case take calls
00:20:10.760 whatever you want steve we're we're we're going to take 15 minutes so they open up war room and for
00:20:16.080 the a block will be all on there john fredericks how do people get to you between now and then how
00:20:19.940 can they get to everything you're doing on radio and charlie kirk by the way we're going to have all
00:20:24.100 to all coverage charlie kirk's going to cover it and i think jack basobiec sitting in for him
00:20:27.800 charlie's going to be out there thursday night so this is going to be i think grant
00:20:31.520 stinchfield's going to cover it so this is going to be wall-to-wall coverage
00:20:35.040 of the rnc winter meeting john how do people get to you
00:20:38.300 we got to fight steve we got to fight this is the resistance all you got to do is at jf radio show
00:20:46.600 all my platforms are the same at jf radio show we're going to be giving you updates throughout we're
00:20:53.100 going to be on getter live as well at jf radio show steve thanks for having me
00:20:56.800 uh john fredericks thank you check back in later let's go to arizona kerry lake by the way we're
00:21:02.760 going to get shelby bush we can't get her this morning we're going to get shelby for this afternoon
00:21:06.920 maybe even for the six o'clock show that's the we the people of arizona alliance uh yesterday uh
00:21:12.960 kerry just get people up to date because yesterday was explosions out there in the senate the brilliant
00:21:18.960 wendy rogers had testimony i guess from shelby bush and others that now looks like can be added to
00:21:25.000 your court case i guess to get get up to speed just generally the overview of what happened
00:21:28.700 yesterday because i want to make sure everybody understands the fight for the governorship of
00:21:32.880 arizona is far far far from over kerry lake is the legitimate governor the governor of arizona
00:21:39.600 and we're gonna we're gonna win this in court walker what happened yesterday ma'am
00:21:43.080 well they started an election committee in the arizona senate and led by wendy rogers and she held
00:21:49.240 a hearing yesterday to talk about some of the major issues and one of the issues that shelby laid out was
00:21:56.680 this problem with signature verification mail-in ballots the only way to secure them and make sure
00:22:01.080 that they're even close to being secure is through a strict level of signature verification and shelby
00:22:08.120 bush has analyzed so many documents and her team has and basically laid out that they don't have any
00:22:15.440 signature verification it's a complete joke i'm going to look down at my numbers and they basically
00:22:20.320 looked at what happened in 2020 and in 2020 421 000 ballots failed signature verification and they still
00:22:30.020 have that exact same system in place going into 2022 which caused a major problem she showed all kinds
00:22:36.700 of examples of blank boxes no signatures being thrown in and counted if you don't have a signature on the
00:22:43.420 envelope you can't count that they showed blatant examples of problems with signature verification
00:22:49.120 to the tune of hundreds of thousands of ballots that were counted that had egregious failures when it
00:22:54.900 comes to signature verifications one of the experts said with 99.999 confidence that 290 000
00:23:03.100 bad signatures were accepted in the 2022 election now you add this to the 300 000 ballots that we know had
00:23:11.620 no chain of custody and then we talk about the slog files the system log files that they got a hold of
00:23:17.900 and talked about how bad those tabulators are none of the tabulators were compliant due to all of the
00:23:24.200 errors it's just outrageous what was laid out in court they talked about how fast they would have had to
00:23:30.400 if they would have gone through and actually done signature verification it would have required them to
00:23:35.580 verify a signature one signature every eight seconds working overtime it's humanly impossible to do
00:23:43.400 maricopa county is lying about this and my question now steve is why did the judge in our case not allow us
00:23:51.420 to bring this part of the case into the trial that we had about a month ago he denied us the ability to
00:23:58.040 bring this kind of evidence in during our case and i think because it would have blown the roof off of
00:24:05.140 how bad mail and ballots are we're gonna try i think we're trying to get shelby on for this
00:24:11.300 afternoon to go in detail because wendy rogers did yesterday was bring they let people come forward
00:24:15.540 and actually put hard evidence out there just the timing tell the people the timing what when do you
00:24:21.300 guys argue i know they're going back and forth both sides are going back and forth in court filings
00:24:25.540 when do you actually when what's the court date when do you guys actually make these arguments at the
00:24:29.500 appellate court well it's so confusing because people don't you know they they think of like you know
00:24:34.160 filing a a lawsuit and it's wrapped up in one day you know we filed in the appellate court the
00:24:39.720 defense already put their motion in and now today we are replying to that motion february 1st is when
00:24:46.700 the appellate judges will take a look at all of the evidence presented and by the way this coming sunday
00:24:53.280 we are holding a rally a save arizona rally here in arizona you can find out more about it at
00:24:59.380 save arizona fund dot com we want the people of arizona to show up and express how important it
00:25:06.880 is that we have honest elections so that we have a country going forward and freedoms going forward
00:25:12.280 so what give that again where do people go because everybody's talking about this rally where do what
00:25:17.900 times are going to happen where is it going to be and and uh and where do they go on the website to
00:25:21.780 find out more okay you stumped me on that one we're in the in the process of planning and i believe
00:25:26.400 it's during the day but you'll have to go to save arizona fund dot com i've got my team planning
00:25:31.500 that i plan to actually be over at dana point as well for this big republican vote and uh doesn't
00:25:37.460 mean we're not following our case we're putting out our reply today in that case let's let's let's
00:25:44.020 talk about that for a second we got about two minutes you're going over to the rnc winner meeting
00:25:47.880 uh with or for harmy dylan tell us what's going on there you know we just need a change of of
00:25:54.780 leadership we had such we have such an amazing movement here in arizona in my campaign we have
00:26:01.080 a movement of mothers and fathers suburban women suburban men um democrats followed us and voted for
00:26:08.660 us independence the biggest movement we've ever seen in arizona and there's not a darn reason we
00:26:13.400 should have lost but the rnc has not been supportive they have not been involved and they've really
00:26:18.180 turned their back in my opinion on the grassroots and to see rana who i've always been kind to
00:26:23.880 hasn't hasn't hasn't hasn't hasn't hasn't rana trash talked to you a little bit ma'am a lot acting
00:26:29.660 like we uh we put forth bad candidates we put forth the best candidates i believe arizona has ever seen
00:26:35.260 and i'm not trying to give myself a pat on the back i'm the first republican gubernatorial candidate
00:26:40.240 who stood with we the people we the people with common sense america first solutions talking about
00:26:47.180 securing that border and bringing action to that border on day one reforming our elections
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00:29:20.760 madeline look up turn your head towards me madeline turn your head more more more
00:29:28.520 can you rotate your ribcage rotate your ribcage don't be looking at her yeah
00:29:33.800 don't smile please ready here we go
00:29:39.540 how do we translate the drawing into sculpture
00:29:50.340 the issue is that what the machine does digitally is not what the mind does
00:30:00.340 it's different but it's a lot to do also with um
00:30:19.040 see the issue was like everyone's different size of jessica was so see this diagonal this is different
00:30:29.740 have this diagonal
00:30:31.740 so
00:30:36.740 you
00:30:38.740 you
00:30:40.740 you
00:30:42.740 you
00:30:48.740 you
00:30:50.740 you
00:30:52.740 you
00:30:54.740 you
00:31:07.740 are you excited to start sculpting not so much i'm not so excited to start start start sculpting
00:31:16.740 why not what's going on because i know what lies ahead so we got this thing assembled and
00:31:23.740 i'm on the phone to commission this morning
00:31:26.740 and they they got the pictures that you took and
00:31:30.740 they all were like wow this book's already done why does it need the models
00:31:34.740 why does it need to like spend all this time
00:31:37.740 with the models and they just don't know and the whole process up till now
00:31:41.740 which is about four years it's this massive education
00:31:45.740 of explaining and pushing
00:31:48.740 and i'm a very stubborn individual when it comes to my art so
00:31:53.740 just are
00:31:55.740 vision that i have
00:31:57.740 i'm holding it
00:31:59.740 and i have to push it forward
00:32:01.740 and that's what
00:32:03.740 brought us to this point and that's what brings us forward
00:32:06.740 if i start saying yes to everybody
00:32:09.740 the vision crumbles
00:32:11.740 culture falls apart
00:32:13.740 and we don't
00:32:14.740 hit the end
00:32:15.740 the way it's supposed to be
00:32:16.740 because this is the level of the korean war memorial already
00:32:20.740 and washington has never seen anything like what is about to come out of the studio
00:32:25.740 well what is your ultimate vision how what is the quality going to be
00:32:29.740 we're going to bring this to a level of humanism showing it through our forms
00:32:35.740 show flow and energy
00:32:39.740 visually
00:32:40.740 so we're telling us about visual narrative telling the story through how
00:32:46.740 figures are closed and how the draperies hold and how the faces are
00:32:51.740 how the hands are tilted and how the energy is slow in places and fast in other places
00:32:58.740 and that's
00:32:59.740 that's the concept that has not been done
00:33:02.740 because it's a lost language
00:33:05.740 that we are putting back on the map
00:33:08.740 with the crew here at the studio
00:33:11.740 it's a marathon
00:33:12.740 a four year marathon
00:33:14.740 okay
00:33:23.740 um
00:33:24.740 i wanted to uh to to have this towards the end of the show today because of the opening of the show
00:33:30.740 and talking about ukraine in this
00:33:32.740 insanity
00:33:34.740 once again
00:33:35.740 from world war one to world war two to the cold war
00:33:38.740 now uh once again america's being uh basically drawn into a conflict that it should not have any part of right now
00:33:45.740 and uh
00:33:46.740 in world war one
00:33:47.740 the leaders were called this
00:33:49.740 there's a great book out called the sleepwalkers
00:33:51.740 that everybody kind of there was a sleepwalking into this
00:33:54.740 into the um
00:33:56.740 the the horror of the trench warfare
00:33:58.740 of uh
00:33:59.740 world war one that triggered everything else
00:34:01.740 in the 20th century
00:34:03.740 the bloodiest century in mankind's history
00:34:05.740 so you've got to go back to world war one
00:34:07.740 the guns of august
00:34:08.740 the sleepwalkers
00:34:09.740 and what we have
00:34:10.740 and this is going to be a major
00:34:12.740 cultural
00:34:13.740 and quite frankly even political
00:34:15.740 because it's going to inform the politics
00:34:17.740 uh
00:34:18.740 sabin howard is the artist
00:34:19.740 doing this a sculptor
00:34:20.740 when you talk about a lost language
00:34:22.740 sabin
00:34:23.740 and quite frankly
00:34:24.740 you haven't seen anything
00:34:25.740 with the the humanism
00:34:27.740 uh
00:34:28.740 in washington dc
00:34:29.740 or i think of
00:34:30.740 in anywhere
00:34:31.740 um
00:34:32.740 you know i think of the thing for dr
00:34:34.740 uh
00:34:35.740 martin luther king
00:34:36.740 which is so controversial
00:34:37.740 you haven't seen anything like yours
00:34:39.740 i don't know
00:34:40.740 in two generations
00:34:41.740 it seems like
00:34:42.740 back to the
00:34:43.740 to the uh
00:34:44.740 to at least mid-century
00:34:45.740 20th century or before
00:34:46.740 talk to us about this lost language
00:34:48.740 what are you trying to accomplish sir
00:34:50.740 that's really important
00:34:52.740 thank you for having me on first of all
00:34:54.740 um
00:34:55.740 to create an art form
00:34:56.740 that's understood by
00:34:57.740 everybody that sees it
00:34:59.740 and
00:35:00.740 it's called visual
00:35:01.740 art
00:35:02.740 so first and foremost
00:35:03.740 it has to be visual
00:35:05.740 i wanted to make something
00:35:06.740 that
00:35:07.740 even your eighth grader
00:35:08.740 coming to see the history
00:35:09.740 of our country
00:35:10.740 and the history of the world
00:35:11.740 they have a
00:35:13.740 deep visceral understanding of it
00:35:15.740 so as you walk along this
00:35:16.740 sixty foot long bronze wall
00:35:18.740 with thirty eight figures
00:35:20.740 telling the story of a soldier
00:35:22.740 that is the hero's journey
00:35:24.740 they would quickly have
00:35:26.740 a reaction
00:35:28.740 as they walked
00:35:29.740 and the story unfolded
00:35:30.740 because you start on the left side
00:35:32.740 and the first figure is the daughter
00:35:34.740 handing
00:35:35.740 the
00:35:36.740 soldier
00:35:37.740 her dad
00:35:38.740 the helmet
00:35:39.740 and then he leaves his wife
00:35:41.740 and
00:35:42.740 enters into combat
00:35:43.740 with the brotherhood of arms
00:35:45.740 he exits that combat
00:35:47.740 and
00:35:48.740 is changed forever
00:35:50.740 inextricably
00:35:51.740 inextricably
00:35:52.740 the way that
00:35:53.740 this country
00:35:54.740 and this world was changed
00:35:55.740 by world war one
00:35:56.740 and the very last scene
00:35:57.740 is him returning home
00:35:59.740 to his
00:36:01.740 daughter again
00:36:02.740 so she's in the very beginning
00:36:04.740 and the very end
00:36:05.740 and he hands her the helmet
00:36:07.740 and that helmet
00:36:08.740 is handed to her
00:36:09.740 as the next generation
00:36:10.740 which is world war two
00:36:11.740 and
00:36:12.740 for
00:36:13.740 for me
00:36:14.740 i had to learn a tremendous amount
00:36:17.740 about
00:36:18.740 what
00:36:19.740 sculpture
00:36:20.740 did
00:36:21.740 because prior to this my work
00:36:23.740 was
00:36:24.740 in a studio
00:36:25.740 for a very esoteric public
00:36:27.740 and now i'm making an art
00:36:29.740 for
00:36:30.740 people that are not art lovers
00:36:32.740 but i have to make something
00:36:33.740 that will change
00:36:35.740 when they come to the memorial
00:36:37.740 and they can take that experience
00:36:40.740 home
00:36:41.740 and it will ignite
00:36:43.740 a cultural revolution
00:36:45.740 that brings
00:36:46.740 art back to the people
00:36:48.740 and makes it something that
00:36:50.740 everybody
00:36:51.740 will be interested in
00:36:52.740 and that's
00:36:53.740 that is my mission
00:36:54.740 and that is the vision that i have
00:36:56.740 with this project
00:36:58.740 how
00:36:59.740 how do you
00:37:00.740 what is it about the
00:37:01.740 the sculpting
00:37:02.740 with the images that are so powerful
00:37:05.740 but recognizable
00:37:06.740 that you hope to trigger a cultural revolution
00:37:09.740 by doing that sir
00:37:10.740 i
00:37:12.740 i believe
00:37:13.740 that to be
00:37:14.740 a truly great artist
00:37:15.740 you have to do something
00:37:17.740 that is understandable by all levels of society
00:37:21.740 so
00:37:22.740 i had a huge amount of training
00:37:24.740 i mean i i started back in the trenches
00:37:26.740 back in the early 80s
00:37:27.740 and i worked
00:37:28.740 in a traditional way
00:37:30.740 from life models
00:37:31.740 so here's the primary thing
00:37:33.740 i'm working
00:37:34.740 from people
00:37:35.740 i'm also working with my hands
00:37:38.740 my heart
00:37:40.740 and my mind
00:37:41.740 and
00:37:42.740 anything that's digital
00:37:44.740 or computer
00:37:45.740 in this age
00:37:46.740 that is clearly
00:37:47.740 you know
00:37:48.740 technologically driven
00:37:49.740 on many
00:37:50.740 many many levels
00:37:51.740 i'm using that as
00:37:53.740 a tool
00:37:55.740 to push
00:37:56.740 the humanism
00:37:57.740 which is the actual creation of art
00:37:59.740 by a human being
00:38:00.740 by a human being
00:38:01.740 so when i look at a model
00:38:03.740 i'm perceiving that model
00:38:05.740 in a way
00:38:06.740 that a human being
00:38:07.740 would see it
00:38:08.740 and transferring that perception
00:38:10.740 in a very human level
00:38:12.740 to the art form
00:38:13.740 i'm not doing it in a digital way
00:38:15.740 and so that's the thing
00:38:16.740 when somebody sees art
00:38:18.740 that is made by human hands
00:38:19.740 human heart
00:38:20.740 and human mind
00:38:21.740 it's a transference of that energy
00:38:23.740 which is humanity
00:38:29.740 the timing of this
00:38:30.740 when
00:38:31.740 when do you begin the
00:38:32.740 when do you finish
00:38:33.740 and actually begin the installation process
00:38:35.740 what's
00:38:36.740 what's the timing
00:38:37.740 when can the public
00:38:38.740 plan on seeing this
00:38:40.740 as you envision
00:38:41.740 actually
00:38:42.740 in washington
00:38:43.740 well we
00:38:44.740 I
00:38:45.740 I started this thing
00:38:46.740 back in
00:38:47.740 2015
00:38:48.740 and then i started sculpting
00:38:49.740 after i got through
00:38:50.740 the agency approvals
00:38:51.740 in dc
00:38:52.740 in 2019
00:38:54.740 in august
00:38:56.740 i will finish
00:38:57.740 december of 2023
00:38:59.740 in the meantime
00:39:00.740 this thing is being cast
00:39:01.740 as we go along
00:39:03.740 and
00:39:04.740 it'll be
00:39:05.740 installed
00:39:06.740 and we're going to have
00:39:07.740 a grand unveiling
00:39:08.740 on september
00:39:09.740 13th
00:39:10.740 2024
00:39:12.740 and it's a
00:39:13.740 it's a
00:39:14.740 it's a
00:39:15.740 pershing park
00:39:16.740 it'll be called world war one park
00:39:17.740 and what we're planning on doing
00:39:18.740 the commission will do something
00:39:19.740 during the day
00:39:20.740 and that evening
00:39:21.740 and i hope that
00:39:23.740 evening
00:39:24.740 to really share my experience
00:39:25.740 of create of the creation of this artwork
00:39:27.740 with the public
00:39:28.740 because that's who this piece is for
00:39:30.740 the kind of the end of the victorian era started with the the guns of august and and clearly the people had no earthy idea what they were getting into this triggered i don't know people say over 200 million casualties in the entire 20th century now that we're back and fighting on battlefields in europe the timing of this what do you hope people take away from this as far as the timing because trust me by the end of this year the situation in europe the
00:39:48.740 Now that we're back and fighting on battlefields in Europe, the timing of this, what do you hope people take away from this as far as the timing?
00:39:57.480 Because trust me, by the end of this year, the situation in Ukraine will probably be much worse than it even is today.
00:40:04.220 What do you hope that people take away from even their own experience and their own lived experience, sir?
00:40:10.640 The piece is a war memorial, but there's a hidden agenda from my perspective.
00:40:20.140 I grew up in the Vietnam era.
00:40:22.560 I watched the Vietnam War unfold in my living room as a little four-year-old and a five-year-old.
00:40:27.460 And it had a very deep impact on my heart.
00:40:33.600 And so the way that I set up the composition, it's supposed to heal.
00:40:39.580 And it will heal because it's – I think in some ways, you know, you watch these things unfold on TV and on social media like a war.
00:40:48.600 And it's very hard to see that that's actual human beings that are in combat, families, mothers, fathers, brothers, whole villages that are being destroyed.
00:41:00.760 So it's like, you know, they have this whole fabric of society that gets completely turned into chaos and ripped apart in a way that's incredibly destructive beyond anything that you would ever imagine on TV.
00:41:14.940 And so getting immersed in a project like this, I want to clearly show people the tragedy of war.
00:41:21.860 So there is a section of this memorial that is made up of three groups of figures that follows the battle scene.
00:41:29.180 And that is the very epicenter of the vision.
00:41:33.240 You have a soldier that is shell-shocked that moves directly out at the viewer.
00:41:38.540 And his eyes stare directly at you as you look at that sculpture.
00:41:43.900 And that's the focus of this.
00:41:46.400 It's called the cost of war section.
00:41:48.760 And that's the part that I want people to remember.
00:41:52.120 It's the nightmare that happens because of war.
00:41:56.060 And if it's a three-dimensional object as a sculpture and if it's done really, really well, it's going to have that impact.
00:42:05.660 Sabin, how do people find it more?
00:42:07.560 What websites do they go to?
00:42:09.420 I know you update all the time.
00:42:11.220 How do people find it and follow this work as you complete it?
00:42:14.360 Well, if you want to look on Instagram, I'm SabinHowardSculpture.
00:42:20.320 And then I'm SabinHoward.com as a website.
00:42:25.920 And we're constantly updating.
00:42:27.440 SabinHoward.
00:42:29.780 No, the videos you put up are just amazing.
00:42:32.560 We'll make sure we push it out and everybody in the War and Posse gets access to it.
00:42:35.940 SabinHoward, a tremendous, great artist, trying to start a cultural revolution here in the United States
00:42:42.380 with this magnificent memorial to the fallen of World War I.
00:42:48.920 SabinHoward, thank you very much for joining us here in the War Room.
00:42:51.440 Appreciate it.
00:42:52.080 Bye.
00:42:52.520 Thank you.
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00:48:37.700 We've seen entire states taken offline, and when that power goes down, bang goes your Internet and bang goes your phone service.
00:48:44.120 So, you know, your only alternative would be to grab a sat phone.
00:48:48.380 And when these things happen, Steve, there's nothing available, as you know, as you remember from last year.
00:48:54.380 So, yep, just go to sat123.com or call us 941-955-1020, and we're open 24 hours.
00:49:01.460 By the way, if I don't use all the minutes in a month, do you guys still let people roll the minutes over?
00:49:08.780 Walk me through that.
00:49:10.360 Absolutely, yeah.
00:49:11.060 They just keep rolling over.
00:49:12.320 So, when you actually need them, they're going to be there.
00:49:14.780 They're not wasted at all.
00:49:16.940 Because, look, in an emergency, you need more than a couple of minutes, right?
00:49:20.800 So, you're going to have hundreds of minutes that have rolled over, and you're going to be good to go to get assistance for you and your family, your friends, your business, whatever it is you need.
00:49:29.020 So, for the satellite phone, where do they go?
00:49:32.740 You get 300 in store with a bivy, in stock with a bivy.
00:49:36.080 Where do people go, both phone number and website, so they find out more information?
00:49:40.860 The phone number, again, 941-955-1020 or sat123.com.
00:49:47.380 That's sat123.com.
00:49:49.220 And we're open right now and around the clock.
00:49:53.060 By the way, we don't get this too often.
00:49:54.920 It's only when the inventory issues or the supply chains issues get worked out.
00:49:59.780 Chris, thank you so much.
00:50:01.040 One more time, what's the website?
00:50:02.260 Because I want people to go check that out and find out all the information about that.
00:50:05.680 Where do they go?
00:50:06.940 It's sat123.com, sat123.com, Steve.
00:50:13.660 Chris Horr, thank you, brother.
00:50:14.880 Appreciate you coming on.
00:50:15.720 Appreciate you making this available for the War Room.
00:50:18.920 You bet.
00:50:19.340 Thank you, Steve.
00:50:19.820 Every time we've done this in the past, it blows out right away.
00:50:23.940 So make sure you get to the number or you get to the website.
00:50:26.240 We got it.
00:50:26.720 We'll put it.
00:50:27.140 Grace will put it up in all the different chat rooms.
00:50:30.340 Okay.
00:50:32.560 There's a lot going on.
00:50:33.400 We had to move Todd Bensman to the night.
00:50:35.160 We're trying to juggle this during the morning show and the afternoon shows.
00:50:38.800 Rudy's going to join us tomorrow.
00:50:40.220 We're going to go through a very detailed breakdown of the memo and the classified.
00:50:47.940 Gates' theory of the case, he's going to be back on tonight, is that the Democrats, you see, and it is quite odd that the Senate Democrats are not having Biden's back at all on this.
00:50:58.380 Gates' theory of the case is that, hey, the deep state has finally turned on Biden.
00:51:02.220 They're going to hang him out to dry and then eventually get rid of him.
00:51:05.100 But I'm telling you, the ticking time bomb here, as everyone can see, is this memo, which we saw in the laptop from hell.
00:51:11.720 And the question is, why did Chris Wray, why did Bill Barr, why did people that were doing a coup against President Trump, that coup, all came to light later, right?
00:51:24.340 All came to light later with Esper and all this crowd and Barr and Wray and all of it.
00:51:29.760 Why did they suppress this information when they first got it back in December of 2019?
00:51:34.520 We're going to get into all of that.
00:51:35.800 We're going to make sure it's all out there so you not just understand it, but that you can push it out and become the force multiplier.
00:51:41.580 It's going to be now more important than ever.
00:51:43.620 I think, as you heard from Matt Gates and Mike Davis, I think you are going to see subpoenas.
00:51:49.920 I think you are going to see testimony as early as this week or next.
00:51:52.920 So strap in.
00:51:54.660 This is going to get a little heated.
00:51:55.860 We're going to be back here from 5 to 7 in the afternoon and early evening edition of the War Room.
00:52:01.780 Until then, check us out on Get It.
00:52:03.460 See you back here this afternoon.
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