00:03:10.160You've got one law governing corporate finance in a presidential election at the federal level.
00:03:14.820You're going to have 50 state laws interfering with it.
00:03:17.440So he's just wrong on the applicability of the New York statute.
00:03:20.500Alvin Bragg said that there is more evidence.
00:03:24.340He didn't have to share exactly what that was.
00:03:27.420But my question to you is, no one is saying Trump didn't do this.
00:03:33.380I mean, I don't even hear Trump saying that.
00:03:35.000So, again, the public politically desensitized to just how unseemly it might be for a president to pay off a porn star in order to influence the election
00:03:48.260or keep his wife from finding out about it, who knows what his intent was.
00:03:52.800But could there be a possibility of a secondary indictment?
00:03:56.760Or what are the potentials that could play out here if a crime indeed was committed?
00:04:02.460Well, I mean, he is very much capable of talking himself into more trouble.
00:04:09.320I mean, we've seen this from the very beginning of his presidential career,
00:04:15.480when he basically took an investigation about whether or not the Russians tried to interfere with the 2016 election
00:04:23.800and made that investigation essentially all about him and his desire and attempts to obstruct that investigation.
00:04:32.700I mean, remember there was a several hundred page report issued by special counsel Robert Mueller.
00:04:38.860And one half of it was devoted to Trump's efforts to derail the investigation.
00:04:43.100He is perfectly capable of committing crimes, felonies, to avoid nothing,
00:04:51.240which was probably what he had done before he started trying to obstruct the Mueller investigation.
00:04:56.960He's certainly probably willing to try to commit crimes to avoid being convicted of a misdemeanor.
00:05:06.360It's just that he just doesn't know when to stop.
00:05:09.440Yeah, and speaking of not knowing when to stop John Heilman, I thought it was fascinating.
00:05:14.680Yesterday, every Democrat, and again, it will get mad at me.
00:06:25.560Instead, it was all these personal grievances.
00:06:30.160He went all over the place, scattershot.
00:06:33.400And by the end of the speech, Ron DeSantis had to be feeling great, going, well, he's always going to be him.
00:06:43.240Because by the end, you're like, yeah, that guy, that guy will never be president again.
00:06:48.440He took this advantage that a lot of people thought he had and completely blew it with that crazy display last night at Mar-a-Lago.
00:06:58.400Yeah, I don't know, Joe, whether he completely blew it in the sense that all of the things we heard last night from him have been things that we've heard before.
00:07:05.240And they're all things that have, for whatever, if you believe that Trump's power resides in his ability to continue to have the loyalty of that, of the MAGA base, and that that's a large enough chunk of the party to make him the front runner, the favorite, maybe ultimately the nominee of the party.
00:07:25.080I'm not sure he did anything to alienate any of those voters last night.
00:07:27.980I do think if you're someone running against Trump and you want to, and you're making a case to the other part of the party, which is to say, you know, to the establishment part of the party, the never Trumpers, the maybe Trumpers, the anybody who's looking for a reason to leave Trump, you got an object lesson of like, this is what you're going to get, folks.
00:07:46.500If we stick with Donald Trump, you're going to get this, even the day that the judge told him to watch it, to simmer down, to not say these inflammatory things, to not say these, to attack this DA, to not attack the courts, to not attack the justice system.
00:08:03.080You know, don't go, don't go down the path you've been on, admonished him in the court and told him that there might be consequences.
00:08:09.540He went out and did exactly the same thing.
00:08:10.880And so if I'm Ron DeSantis and I'm trying to appeal to the car robes of the world, the car robe donors of the world, the club for growth people, all those people, you have this a very strong thing.
00:08:22.060But most people, I think, know that with all of this being said and with a very dark cloud over our beloved country, I have no doubt, nevertheless, that we will make America great again.
00:10:10.780Andrew Weissman in a tizzy clutching his pearls right there as the Viking chief comes in and throws down hard on what is a completely moronic, idiotic group of charges.
00:11:02.220And look, I'm glad Donald Trump is capitalizing on the thing that strikes at the heart of Americans, and that is a two-tier system of justice.
00:11:09.820I'm sorry that Donald Trump has to be the figure to go through this, but he's the only one that can lead us through it and defeat it.
00:11:46.620I want Donald Trump and company to bleed Alvin Bragg dry over the next two years of discovery so we can educate the American public on the fraud and corruption that is the New York State judicial system and the DOJ and FBI that helped fund this prosecution.
00:12:02.200I want every member of Congress, like I called on last night, where are the subpoenas?
00:12:06.680Alvin Bragg has already said he used federal funds to investigate and prosecute Donald Trump in a state court.
00:12:12.920Why hasn't the Judiciary Committee and Oversight Committees issued subpoena after subpoenas?
00:12:17.280Do they forget what the January 6th committee did to us?
00:12:20.700There is a two-tier system of justice, not just in the executive and judicial branches, but in the legislative branches, and I'm calling on Congress to act and put the documents out, the receipts, as Steve Bannon always says, so the American people can read them.
00:13:28.300But I want to see the laundry list of Republicans that have come out and said glorifying things about Donald Trump as they should, who are members of Congress.
00:13:36.440Yet when they go to the halls of Congress, they aren't the ones demanding the subpoenas be sent out.
00:13:41.900Whether you're a committee man or woman, whether you're a chairperson or not, you as a member of Congress have the ability to go to the Speaker of the House and demand publicly in front of the microphones in the world, I want subpoenas.
00:13:53.860I haven't seen one Republican member of Congress doing that.
00:13:57.920And I'm the guy who ran the Russiagate investigation, and I understand the patience you need.
00:14:17.320And if you don't know how to do it, then give me a call and I'll show you.
00:14:20.440I think the reason you haven't seen it is because the Republican caucus writ large doesn't have the temerity to go down the subpoena line like the Jan 6 committee did and hold people accountable for contempt of Congress.
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00:16:39.840Anything – by the way, we do these cold opens.
00:16:42.180Obviously, we're trying to show you what the opposition is saying, not just to mess with you but to understand how they're driving the narrative.
00:16:48.720Anything that Andrew Weissman, when he's clutching his pearls, anything Andrew Weissman and Joe Scarborough and those people don't like, you understand you're doing the right thing.
00:16:59.340You see how they frame it, and then you understand how you're doing the right thing.
00:17:03.020Cash Patel, yesterday was – your book's titled Government Gangsters.
00:17:06.900Yesterday was a full government gangster flex by the Manhattan DA and in the state of New York.
00:18:19.440We must subpoena all of his staff and all of their records.
00:18:22.800We must also follow the money, as I always say.
00:18:25.320We got to figure out where exactly the federal funds were spent and why is it that federal funds are being utilized to help rig and interfere with yet another presidential election?
00:18:38.600Who gave the OK in the United States government – speaking of government gangsters – to authorize American taxpayer dollars to falsely indict a president of the United States based on no actual legal theory whatsoever?
00:18:52.880Then the Alvin Braggs of the world and the investigators must be put front and center under oath for the American public to see after the documents have come in to say this is where the money came from.
00:19:06.080This is where the leaks went, the felony leaks.
00:19:09.080This is where all of the witnesses that we talked to hid exculpatory evidence that we knew about, and these were the misrepresentations we made to the grand jury and the judge and the world.
00:19:20.900And the only way to do that is not cheap rhetoric but through the subpoenaing of documentation by committees of jurisdiction now that there is a jurisdictional hook.
00:19:30.400Nobody in Congress can now say, oh, it's a state matter.
00:19:34.960Alvin Bragg is also putting the money aside saying that the conspiracy that – even though there isn't one, but he's tying the conspiracy to a federal election matter.
00:19:44.900The false narrative that he wants out there is that Donald Trump did this crime to interfere with the 2016 election.
00:20:19.360Look, it's not going to happen overnight, and people probably already want, oh, a quick dismissal.
00:20:23.620No, remember, Alvin Bragg is the one who's interfering with the United States election process.
00:20:28.580So let's show the world that we are not right-wing conspirators.
00:20:32.060Let's utilize the subpoena process in Congress that we have to show them the receipts, to show them that taxpayer dollars, your money, was utilized to stand up a fraudulent prosecution.
00:20:41.920And your neighbor and your brother and your parents and your siblings can be next, because if they can do it at the state level, they can do it at any level.
00:20:48.400And, oh, by the way, it doesn't just have to be Congress.
00:20:51.060Steve, where are the local district attorneys that are Republicans and the state attorney generals that are Republicans?
00:20:56.980Where are their subpoenas and grand juries?
00:20:59.100Why haven't they been stood up to analyze a single issue of legality as it relates to Alvin Bragg's prosecution and, oh, say, Jeffrey Epstein and a zillion other things we talk about?
00:21:10.000Why aren't these district attorneys and state agencies being called out by name?
00:21:13.760You can stand up a grand jury in any jurisdiction and investigate almost anything you want once you tie it to your home base.
00:21:20.920And if they don't know how to do that, I'll tell them.
00:21:22.900But those people are as much on the hook as Congress is for their lack of actions today.
00:21:32.020And how do people get to the appropriately titled government gangsters that's still going through the redaction process with the administrative state?
00:21:40.620I will announce today we are suing the government, the DOD and the government, for withholding my manuscript, Government Gangsters.
00:22:43.740And, yes, I'm taking them to federal court.
00:22:45.580Shifty Shift, as bad as Shifty Shift is and a liar, right?
00:22:52.860And he's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
00:22:54.740He is ten orders of magnitude sharper.
00:22:57.180That press conference yesterday with Bragg, when the liberal reporters that follow the legal aspects of everything in New York, and, of course, you had, what, Garrick Hoke at MSNBC or NBC News, they asked basic questions because they're flipping through this thing.
00:23:35.900He's just knowing – he knew what he wanted the outcome to be, an indictment of Donald Trump.
00:23:40.460And he brought in anyone who could assist and facilitate that process, like this guy Colangelo.
00:23:46.100Oh, and by the way, let's subpoena him.
00:23:48.580Let's subpoena the communications between Bragg and Colangelo and anyone else in the private and public sector he used to beef up this fraudulent indictment.
00:23:56.580That's just another thing this Congress can do.
00:23:59.180Alvin Bragg doesn't have the brains to take it on, but he wants all the glory and the credit, and it's going to come crashing down on him when we shred him with the truth.
00:24:06.960But that's if the district attorneys, state AGs, and Congress act for the American people because that's the only place that we have to get our truth out.
00:24:16.980In your call to action here, in your action plan, when you say committees of jurisdiction, am I confused?
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00:31:49.480Professor Dursher, we just had Cash Patel on.
00:31:51.380He's got a book, Government Gangsters, that the government won't release.
00:31:55.900Aptly titled yesterday, yours, Get Trump.
00:31:58.820I don't think it hit a lot of Americans who have not been following this until yesterday that this is all about getting Trump.
00:32:05.880Give us your assessment and observations now that you've had a chance to review not simply the indictment and the other information, but Alvin Bragg's disastrous press conference, sir – and I say this.
00:32:18.020He's a graduate of Harvard Law School, I believe, or supposed to be a graduate.
00:32:24.020Well, first of all, you mentioned the previous book, The Government Wouldn't Allow to Be Published.
00:32:28.540We have to really worry about government and also private censorship.
00:32:32.820My book, Get Trump, is not available, is not available in independent bookstores.
00:32:38.680It's a bestseller on Amazon, but you cannot get it in an independent bookstore because they're determined not to make available a book like Get Trump with a title like Get Trump.
00:32:49.340But, you know, I read the indictment yesterday and –
00:32:53.300But hang on, Professor Dursherwitz, our audience craves inside baseball.
00:32:57.960The reason independent bookstores won't – the New York Times depends on independent bookstores.
00:33:05.960For the New York Times bestseller list, they cannot possibly have Professor Dursherwitz's book as the number one bestseller in the country with the title Get Trump.
00:33:26.760The New York Times bestseller list, which I've been on nine times.
00:33:30.520I had the New York Times number one bestseller before I defended Trump, a book named Chutzpah.
00:33:37.580And I used to be the leading op-ed writer among lawyers for the New York Times.
00:33:42.460But once I defended Trump, I was canceled by the New York Times.
00:33:45.900Okay, you can cancel me in your op-ed pages.
00:33:48.660But when the public reads bestseller lists, they expect to see the most books that have been sold.
00:33:54.320And if my book is on the top of the Amazon bestseller nonfiction list, you'd think it would make the New York Times list.
00:34:01.260But they selectively go around the country to independent bookstores and independent bookstores won't sell it, even though they would make money selling it because they care more about their ideology and not getting a book called Get Trump on the New York Times bestseller list.
00:34:16.660But look, if you keep buying it on Amazon and on Barnes and Nobles, nothing that anybody can do will prevent the American public from reading it and hold Bragg and others accountable.
00:34:58.400And that is when Donald Trump paid $130,000 in order to make sure that Stormy Daniels, who was trying to extort him, would not publicly disclose an alleged affair, whether it happened or not, to his wife, to his family, to his business associates, to his voters.
00:35:16.540When he paid that money, he had to know that he was going to immediately have to put on the form that he has to file with corporations about how he spent his money, the real reason he paid the money.
00:35:28.960So he pays the $130,000 to make sure it doesn't come out that he had an alleged affair.
00:35:33.900And then he has to put the alleged affair on public corporate records.
00:35:38.220Never in the history of America, since the day Alexander Hamilton paid hush money to cover up his adulterous affair, has anybody ever listed on a corporate form, I paid hush money in order to prevent somebody who I had sex with from disclosing that fact.
00:35:56.720There are hundreds, hundreds of hush money payments every year that's never, ever been a basis for a crime.
00:36:05.180And then Bragg looked the American public in the face and said, this is my bread and butter.
00:36:13.940So my challenge to Bragg is show us one case, one case where you or anyone else ever prosecuted somebody who paid hush money and then didn't put that hush money and the reason for it on a corporate form.
00:36:54.800He then gets Trump on an indictment and he wants the very same people who voted for him on the theory of get Trump to now serve on the jury to get Trump.
00:37:04.840My God, how far do you have to go to explain the injustice in this?
00:38:10.540You know, I don't give advice to other lawyers generally.
00:38:14.680But what I think should happen here, obviously, is that there has to be immediately a series of motions.
00:38:22.500One, to switch the case out of the borough of Manhattan, where there's no chance he can get justice to Staten Island or Long Island or Norfolk, you know, one of the counties outside of New York City.
00:38:34.960That will be denied because this judge doesn't have the courage to be the one who people point their finger to and say, that's the judge that freed Donald Trump.
00:38:50.160No judge has the courage to rule for Donald Trump in the borough of Manhattan.
00:38:54.180But you can take that to the Court of Appeals before the trial, generally.
00:38:59.660And generally, a court will think about a motion to change venue as something that can be appealed even before the trial begins.
00:39:08.100The same thing is true with statute of limitations.
00:39:10.720There's a very strong statute of limitations argument here because this is, after all, just a misdemeanor.
00:39:16.780They try to turn it into a felony by concocting a theory that in Trump's mind at the time he filed this statement was to cover up another crime, not to protect his wife, not to protect his family, but to cover up another crime.
00:39:32.100And then Bragg doesn't even include the other crime in the indictment itself, but he tries to mumble a few things about it in his interview.
00:39:41.080So, you know, this is such a sad day for America.
00:39:43.860I've stood for law, for justice, for the American Constitution for 60 years.
00:39:49.280I don't support Donald Trump as a candidate.
00:40:10.500The chief justice or the former justice, Jackson, Robert Jackson, probably the greatest attorney general in American history, lectured his attorneys general.
00:40:54.440She committed what seems like, based on all the facts we know, the crime of extortion.
00:40:59.580It is extortion to go to somebody and say, whether it's true or false, oh, I'm going to say you had an affair with me unless you pay me money.
00:41:06.580Lawyers decide to say, no, that's just settlement of a possible lawsuit.
00:41:44.140How does this – your book is also about Fulton County and also about the grand jury in D.C.
00:41:49.900How does this inform – we've got about a minute.
00:41:52.380We'd love to hold you just for a few minutes through the break.
00:41:54.540How is this going to inform Jack Smith and what's happening in Fulton County, sir?
00:41:59.840Well, they're furious at Bragg because they have, they think, stronger cases.
00:42:04.380And so putting the weakest case first really affects them.
00:42:08.340The only case that has any plausibility – and I go through every one of the cases and get Trump.
00:42:13.760Every one of them in detail is the Florida case of possession of classified material, but they're not going after Biden or Pence on that.
00:42:21.200The other two cases, Washington, D.C., you can't prosecute somebody for saying to people, come and peacefully and patriotically demonstrate.
00:42:29.240And in Georgia, you can't prosecute somebody for saying on a recorded line, fine, fine, fine, not make up, not concoct.
00:46:01.260Professor Dershowitz, just one last question because they're making this huge deal about Mar-a-Lago, Mar-a-Lago.
00:46:06.460So in the book of Get Trump, we want to make this book number one to be in people's faces.
00:46:15.120Right now, it's an excellent book, and it'll give you all the details about the cases that you need to understand out there in the audience.
00:46:19.900But it also is sending a signal where they're trying to block any defense of Trump from getting anything.
00:46:25.760In Mar-a-Lago, just walk us through – what's the key issue there in your mind?