Bannon's War Room - April 12, 2023


Episode 2656： Big Pharma Monetizes Off American Youth; Pentagon Leaks


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55 minutes

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181.4345

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10,045

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00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
00:00:10.000 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
00:00:16.600 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
00:00:20.360 in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do
00:00:23.740 people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these
00:00:31.460 people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to
00:00:39.020 save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
00:00:53.740 stop moving stop moving
00:00:56.540 watch left watch left suspect down suspect down
00:01:03.580 hey hold the air yeah blue talking
00:01:12.880 god don't have an angle
00:01:29.840 i think i got him down i think he's down
00:01:39.280 yank the left drop now yank him down the stairs
00:01:44.000 where's he at i can't see
00:01:53.620 i think he's down
00:02:00.500 yeah suspect down get the officer
00:02:10.100 hey we gotta move here hey he's fired from inside here
00:02:14.980 huh he's fired from inside there
00:02:17.840 oh no he's down get the officer
00:02:20.500 okay honored we have a congressman matt gates in the house the reason is he's in the middle of so
00:02:42.100 many things um and when we're ready if if denver can give me the heads up i want to play the cut
00:02:47.220 first i want to start with the situation of these uh shootings that are going on you've had the
00:02:51.620 courage to come out on your podcast and other places and actually say what are we even talking
00:02:56.400 about guns there's a deeper issue here about big pharma and the kind of the radicalization of the
00:03:02.000 mental health profession to walk me through exactly i want to be very specific here because
00:03:06.280 we saw the tennessee legislature collapse yesterday the governor of tennessee come out and trying to
00:03:10.580 executive order red flag laws walk me through exactly what's going on
00:03:15.460 my generation was the first that started getting chemically addicted to these mind-altering
00:03:22.560 substances through the education system i remember it you know the playground days when if you had a
00:03:29.560 kid that was a little wired up well you made sure that kid was in a lot of extracurricular sports so
00:03:34.440 that they had a way to burn off a lot of energy called being a boy yeah if someone was a bully
00:03:38.640 maybe you got that person into a church program or something after school where they could develop
00:03:44.660 empathy that they may not have achieved in some other aspect of life if someone was a little odd
00:03:50.740 and detached you found maybe a big brothers big sisters type program so that they could open up
00:03:55.920 in a comfortable setting and now it seems our answer to all of these problems is to get people
00:04:02.500 hooked on to big pharma big pharma figured out that they could monetize adolescence and growing up
00:04:10.960 and some of the challenges that life presents to different people in different ways and i'm not
00:04:15.540 suggesting for every single person there's a one-size-fits-all to improve mental health we are
00:04:20.760 different and unique but it seems we've gotten away from the things that god has given us and that nature
00:04:25.860 has given us and that camaraderie with one another patriotism public service these things are also
00:04:32.660 paths to better mental health and since big pharma can't make money on those now we live in a world
00:04:38.720 where the biggest pill mill is the school nurse's office and how do you it's not just that parents
00:04:46.160 shouldn't be constantly bombarded with a different chemical treatment to their kids it's that the
00:04:51.500 parents who reject that shouldn't have their kids in school with the most doped up generation in all
00:04:58.540 of human history and it you know if you're watching this and you're thinking it's an attack on you it's
00:05:03.720 not i really i'm not here to second guess the choices that that parents make that's obviously for
00:05:09.160 them to make but i can critique a system in big pharma that seems to use every tool at their disposal
00:05:15.820 whether it is the lobbying prowess they have the advertising resources that they commit the way
00:05:22.640 that they indoctrinate a lot of the therapists that service young people and that administer uh care in
00:05:30.400 our schools they indoctrinate them to believe that the answer to everything is ritalin or some variant
00:05:35.200 thereof and and now we see this violence erupt at schools and it's because the schools are the place
00:05:41.560 of trauma and instead of dealing with that trauma by growing up by learning sometimes you get scrapes
00:05:47.980 and bumps and sometimes you have to work through these challenges in the absence of some sort of
00:05:53.400 chemical ailment well then now you see more and more people returning to their place of trauma to do
00:05:59.460 violence on others and so if you're really sincere about solving the problem i think you have to look
00:06:03.900 at the vice grip that these special interests i saw a stat the other 41 million people in this country
00:06:11.040 are on adderall that can't possibly be is it is it it absolutely can be that high and you you have a lot of
00:06:18.840 that prescribing that is unnecessary and there are people who need adderall who live better lives as a
00:06:24.520 consequence but it seems as though the exception has swallowed the rule on this stuff where instead of
00:06:31.540 chemical treatments being reserved for the most severe cases it's like the first step
00:06:36.640 talk to me both in the nashville covenant school shooting and then the what happened in louisville
00:06:43.280 the other day relate this back not just a big pharma into the mental health but how is there a solution
00:06:50.800 in the nation's capital is this a state issue is individual issue how because somebody the the left is
00:06:58.340 just relentless on the guns it's not the guns there's a deeper problem here how do we actually
00:07:03.560 get our arms around the deeper problem and put that front and center in front of the american look i
00:07:07.200 don't because before you said that by the way the reason i saw it not that mr podcast but it was the
00:07:12.700 number one story on media they went nuts you know matt gates goes on you know irrational rant against
00:07:18.560 big pharma and mental health in justifying uh you know uh long guns and ar-15 yeah i can't wait
00:07:26.540 for the big pharma funded fact checkers to criticize the fact that on my podcast firebrand
00:07:31.760 i i go off on big pharma can't wait for that but guess what that's the that's the joy of being a
00:07:37.600 lawmaker and a representative i don't need that corporate media system to get my and you don't take
00:07:43.060 you don't take money from no i don't take money i don't take money from big pharma that makes you
00:07:46.980 bulletproof yeah well here's what i think we need to do vis-a-vis an action plan we have to follow
00:07:53.500 the strategy that parents used against vaccine requirements that didn't make sense and against
00:07:59.340 mask requirements that didn't make sense and against crt the the response to that wasn't led
00:08:04.800 by lawmakers you're saying the parents in congress yeah if you're waiting around for congress to post
00:08:11.500 up on big pharma to liberate us from a generation of dependence uh you will be waiting quite some time
00:08:17.940 i would suggest that this has to come culturally from people who say wait a second why is it that
00:08:24.120 the first answer seems to always be getting more and more students on these uh on these chemical
00:08:31.000 transformative substances what uh tell me about the mental health aspect of this that's the big
00:08:37.460 pharma by the way big pharma and big tech run this big pharma runs this town with the lobbyists the
00:08:42.840 money all of it big pharma has more than one lobbyist dedicated to every single member of
00:08:48.340 congress and more than three to every member of the senate repeat both parties of course for both
00:08:53.720 parties and that's the frustration i have and why i wanted to change things in the house because
00:08:58.740 sometimes it didn't feel like it really mattered which party was in power because both sides were
00:09:03.180 working for the same corrupt interests and and in this case big pharma sometimes catches conservatives in
00:09:10.180 the trap because we say well it's not guns it's mental health and guess what they start wringing
00:09:15.060 their hands in anticipation and salivating at the profits and quarterly earnings reports because they
00:09:21.720 say perfect you believe it's a mental health problem we have a pharma solution for that and be damned
00:09:29.360 the side effects and consequences and when you get to a scale where such a high percentage of
00:09:35.500 particularly people in public schools are utilizing these drugs and some of them are like heavy
00:09:41.340 barbiturates that we're putting kids on uh then of course there are going to be subsets that see very
00:09:48.860 severe side effects that can have the most acute and deadly uh and regrettable consequences that could
00:09:55.960 have manifested in some of this behavior we're seeing absolutely okay i got so much to get to so i get
00:10:01.700 and i want to get you back on one time we spend more time on that because that's a central issue
00:10:05.420 you're the only one with courage to come out and say that i've got to go to common dreams if if
00:10:09.520 denver has this they can put it up common dreams a left-wing news site but very accurate headline
00:10:15.260 it's about you know i'm in quotes it's about hurting the poor gop ramps up cruel push for work
00:10:22.340 requirements quote and he's got a big picture of matt gaich right there the legislators that want
00:10:27.740 new work requirements for food stamps and medicaid are the same ones working to eliminate
00:10:32.020 the estate tax so that bayonair heirs never have to work a day in their lives that is common dreams
00:10:38.740 of mr gates and you are the target of that your response what's cruel is multi-generational dependence
00:10:47.360 on government programs for the essentials of life and far too often i see that present in my
00:10:53.480 congressional office where someone is on their third or fourth or fifth generation of only knowing
00:10:58.820 government assistance and i don't think it's too unreasonable to say if someone is an able-bodied
00:11:05.000 adult with no dependence not the infirm not senior citizens but people who are able-bodied childless
00:11:13.120 adults that they should not have our fellow americans paying for their health care and transportation
00:11:20.160 if they could make a contribution and choose not to i believe that work is an american value it's more
00:11:29.520 important than just the dollars and cents we are not a conglomeration of producers and consumers
00:11:36.000 we are a nation of values and hard work and grit used to be a core american values and we become soft as
00:11:42.960 a nation because covid put us in a situation where we believed if anything happened that it was the
00:11:49.060 government's responsibility to make our payments and to resolve our rent disputes and to dictate what
00:11:55.680 jobs would and would not be legal and that there is a submissiveness that comes with that that we have
00:12:01.140 to break through and it's very serious because how tough are these worker crimes you're putting up
00:12:04.800 because they make it sound like you're simon legree i mean that you're the worst you're requiring
00:12:09.560 these people you're trying to humiliate them you're hurting them this is not appropriate i believe if
00:12:14.760 you're an able-bodied childless adult for example who got medicaid expansion during obamacare that you
00:12:19.900 should have to work 40 hours a week and if you do not work 40 hours a week you should be in job training
00:12:25.380 or you can meet a work requirement by volunteering there are a lot of volunteer opportunities available
00:12:30.700 in our municipal governments our park services non-profits that care for the vulnerable i mean i heard
00:12:37.500 from a food bank in arizona that said that they couldn't get people that were receiving the food at their
00:12:43.560 food bank to even volunteer to do some of the effort to keep the food bank running so imagine
00:12:49.420 if non-profits that's the cycle that's the cycle you're trying to break exactly exactly and work
00:12:54.640 requirements would break it now there there is a um there is a resistance to this in my caucus i think
00:13:01.540 in the republican caucus yes there's a huge resistance of democrats right this is a let's let them defend
00:13:07.100 that hill if democrats want to if if if the if the great folks that they're going to want to defend
00:13:12.480 are the 32 year olds who could work who don't who sit on the couch every day and want the rest of us
00:13:19.160 to pay for them let's go have that debate that's how we unlock the midwest again that's where we start
00:13:24.500 winning in maine and new hampshire again that's where we expand an electoral map when we pick that
00:13:30.800 core fight but instead i've got some republicans saying well gates 40 hours a week is too much we got
00:13:36.420 to go to 20 hours a week and you know it shouldn't be uh you know 10 months out of the year 12 months
00:13:42.760 out of the year someone should be able to meet this requirement if they do it maybe only three
00:13:46.360 months out of the year so something you do for 20 hours a week for three months out of the year
00:13:50.300 isn't work it's a hobby how can that be the we got 30 seconds how can that be the mentality of the
00:13:55.620 conference well and it's in the conference there is there is broad support for what i'm saying but
00:14:00.780 there are a few people and i i'm sensing the resistance may be coming out of some of my good
00:14:06.120 friends in the new york delegation but let me give credit to someone who normally might be more in the
00:14:11.860 center of the conference than i am dusty johnson of south dakota has a great work requirements bill
00:14:16.800 i joined him in sponsoring that worked with him on the provisions of it so if you can get from matt
00:14:21.960 gates to dusty johnson on work requirements that is an enduring fight let's take a short commercial
00:14:27.040 break by the way on this show four weeks ago you said or five weeks ago you said that this
00:14:31.760 work requirement part was could save trillions of dollars this would be a central element to getting
00:14:36.420 to a balanced budget well you gotta you gotta do a lot more to get to a balanced budget than this
00:14:40.180 but it helps on the growth side you said this was an element okay we're gonna take a short commercial
00:14:44.000 break we got a lot to go through the president's great powerful uh interview with tucker carlson last
00:14:49.240 night the leaks in the pentagon uh the budget debate all of it matt gates is here in the house
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00:16:34.260 who's the biggest problem sir is it china could it be russia could it be north korea no i said the
00:16:45.100 biggest problem is from within it's these sick radical people from within because we can handle
00:16:51.900 if we're smart we can handle russia china i did it's the deep state okay um here's the here's the
00:17:00.860 issue came out tucker carlson last night you've been the forefront we're gonna get to the debt ceiling
00:17:04.940 stuff in a second the president had this very powerful interview with tucker carlson but tucker
00:17:10.000 carlson goes hey look if you look at russia china you get all this going the world iran they're working
00:17:13.960 together this thing who's our biggest enemy walk us through your order of battle how you do it he goes
00:17:18.920 no no that's all a problem but i solved it when i was there i'll solve it when i'm back the biggest
00:17:23.160 problem we have is the administrative state in the deep state that thwarts the internal enemies we
00:17:28.180 have that is it's one thing for steve bannon to say that at cpac on the stage a couple of years ago
00:17:33.700 another thing for matt gates to go up there and say it on his on firebrand podcast another thing
00:17:37.640 for a guy who's been president united states commander in chief and looks likely not just be the republican
00:17:43.280 nominee but you know it's a coin flip right now whether he'll be back in the white house as the 47th
00:17:48.740 president united states to say that your thoughts president trump will be better prepared for his
00:17:56.200 second term than he was for his first term and congress better be too and that's my mission in
00:18:02.040 congress to make sure that we don't make the really bad mistakes we initially made in embracing the fbi
00:18:10.220 we saw that from the trey gowdy regime uh we don't make the mistakes at the justice department
00:18:16.780 the judge is going to call your guys bluff on the defund the fbi isn't he coming up with some
00:18:20.860 resolution right now in the senate and see how many republicans are the toe of the line there
00:18:24.880 well we'll see what happens in the senate but it takes two to tango and i don't think that uh in the
00:18:30.660 house we're going to be willing to be their dance partner on fulfilling this this you say you clearly
00:18:38.920 have people like you and cash and others and president trump is much up the learning curve now on
00:18:43.440 exactly how how this government runs in the deep and administrative state doesn't when i say it's a
00:18:48.160 coin flip the only reason the coin flip because the administrative state understands right now and
00:18:53.100 the deep states understands right now they must defeat trump is there any they can't for trump to
00:18:59.860 come back to the white house in 2025 means their destruction because he is now maniacally focused
00:19:06.120 with smart people like beat him with leaks before you see they thought that they could beat him
00:19:10.180 with this scheme of authorized leaks that they've used for generations to destroy people and they
00:19:15.380 used to use it to destroy people on the left and then they brought that tradecraft to start destroying
00:19:19.660 people on the right and it didn't work with trump it actually exposed more of them and it gave us
00:19:25.680 vectors to chisel away at their authorities for example on fisa and other forms of intelligence
00:19:32.240 collection on political campaigns now they're utilizing a very different enforcement regime
00:19:39.460 they're fusing the criminal justice system with the political system in order to achieve their goals
00:19:45.840 and usually you see that occurring in third world countries but now these things that we're used to seeing
00:19:53.500 in some of the poorest places on earth whether it's the utilization of the criminal justice system to go
00:19:59.320 after political opponents or whether it's grandmothers getting beat up in broad daylight in the major city
00:20:05.280 centers of our nation we're starting to look more and more like that and i think that that's what
00:20:10.080 president trump is talking about if america degrades into a third world country will it really matter
00:20:18.360 what the capabilities of iran are will it really matter if china and if china takes taiwan right it
00:20:24.940 probably won't and so we have to we have to rebuild the glory and the patriotism and the capability of this
00:20:32.700 country that is atrophied over the last four years and i think that president trump is more focused on
00:20:38.820 that probably than any human on the planet earth connect right now these disparate things that people
00:20:45.380 see at the weaponization committee at different things of defund the fbi schumer's going to try to
00:20:50.080 call people's bluff of all these things you see going on capitol hill we're going to get to the
00:20:53.740 budget how it's manifested and where you spend your money priorities to what president trump his second
00:20:58.860 term when we had the landing teams and the beachhead teams and all those teams in the administration the
00:21:03.300 5 000 people that we're training up right now so it's not like last time we have people prepared to
00:21:08.040 go in what is that are you sure we're doing that to the effect that you just i do i do i do not think
00:21:13.440 that we're nearly there but i think there are a number i think we got a lot of billets to fill
00:21:17.480 we got four thousand a thousand five thousand five thousand gonna be senate confirmed i don't think
00:21:22.400 we're far along that the other four thousand gonna hit it day one you have different groups out there
00:21:27.060 that are trying to do it and standing up i think will be a lot better a year from now and i think
00:21:31.240 we'll be ready then but it's got to happen but now on the hill what we have you have all this elements
00:21:37.080 going on connect us to when the when trump comes in to take the take the oath of office and the teams
00:21:42.840 hits the beach what is the action plan of what you guys feel you're doing now to make sure you bridge
00:21:48.520 that well personnel is policy we learned that and so you can pass all the great laws you want and if
00:21:55.220 they're not people with the capability to enforce them you need the four thousand to really be we
00:21:59.860 have to have it it is the reason why a republican house alone will never solve the border crisis we
00:22:07.440 don't have the capability to do that without the executive uh it is why a republican congress alone
00:22:12.760 will never rein in big tech you have to have the leverage points that come with the appointment power
00:22:19.280 of the executive to be able to do that so there there are certain fights like on the debt limit the
00:22:24.240 budget spending inflation energy that we can have in the congress and we can move the ball forward
00:22:29.520 but the initial thing we have to do is identify those areas where we only make progress with
00:22:36.600 presidential leadership strong executive action and the right people in the right places and
00:22:40.880 so transition to me right now you've talked about you came on here weeks ago and said hey look one of
00:22:45.420 the parts of the weaponized and woke that we have to go for if we can get these work requirements in
00:22:50.460 yeah over the life it'll be over trillion dollars and that'll be one plank to how we get there
00:22:54.660 where are we because now i see in the new york times and the hill the big stories today there's all
00:22:59.820 types of infighting that the budget guys can't deliver budget till september that mccarthy's going
00:23:05.740 out of his way which is quite uncharacteristic to go out that publicly and say my budget guy's
00:23:09.860 incompetent scalise is a backstabber i got nothing but incompetence around me this is everything well i
00:23:15.840 don't know if that's true or not because the new york times publishes a lot of lies based on bs
00:23:20.860 anonymous sources so i'm not going to give the new york times uh the the credit to suggest that i
00:23:27.320 accept that you're not hearing this backbiting then or this open uh warfare about most people don't tell
00:23:33.520 their secrets to me in this town and i'm just fine with that but here's what i do see we got 222
00:23:39.520 republicans and at least 250 plans on how to approach the budget and the debt limit and based
00:23:46.360 on our inability to organize around a single strategy at this moment in april when you and i
00:23:52.880 are sitting here here's my plan let's just have a votarama let's open up the floor and hear all the
00:24:00.040 plans uh patrick mc henry wants to raise the debt limit without corresponding spending cuts uh the the
00:24:06.760 uh house that's the head of the finance committee that's yeah yeah he's wall street's guy head of
00:24:11.840 the banking committee so hey you know what if he wants to put his plan up you got to give a floor
00:24:17.380 access if you want to get a plan from the house freedom caucus they've put out a budget let's put
00:24:22.560 that up russ vote was i think very significant in the architecture of that andy biggs has a package
00:24:27.840 of 507 pieces of legislation on specific cuts to specific programs let's put that up and take a vote
00:24:34.940 on that we've seen the uh republican study committee put together their game plan and blueprint let's
00:24:41.440 take a vote on that and guess guess who should also get a vote on their plan the budget chairman
00:24:45.460 jody errington because jody errington came to the house retreat uh several weeks ago in orlando and he
00:24:51.640 presented a menu of options which if all were adopted would save this country from fiscal ruin and
00:24:58.180 it involves tough choices to programs like medicaid but i believe we hold hold it stop
00:25:04.640 because that you're breaking news here he's been kind of thrown under the bus at least by the
00:25:09.260 leadership at least by the new york times the hilt also i mean there's been a number of stories in
00:25:14.000 here that that he didn't have his he was was not on top of things he see he came that is false
00:25:18.760 jody errington is on top of things he is very confident and he laid out a budget men menu to the
00:25:25.580 members and frankly i thought that it was going to be milquetoast and it was bold and it was effective
00:25:32.120 at meeting the challenges that we have to meet and it did not slash the defense budget which is
00:25:37.820 something that i would not support i don't i don't want to fund the defense budget of ukraine
00:25:41.820 and other countries but i do believe that we ought to have the most technically capable military in the
00:25:46.820 world and we ought to have a qualitative edge over any potential adversary now and in the future
00:25:51.500 and so the errington budget would i think have pleased without without touching social security
00:25:56.520 and medicare uh look i i believe that uh we have to have a discussion about the a raising the age of
00:26:03.820 social security i think that that is not a a likelihood with joe biden in the white house and
00:26:10.300 a democrat senate but do i believe that forever and always the age of social security but didn't
00:26:14.780 but the errington's budget get to a balanced budget in 10 years with with going just focusing on
00:26:20.140 medicaid and leaving medicare and so i think that the that errington rightly doesn't look at a 10
00:26:25.680 year budget window for balance you know why i've been here for a bunch of these 10 year budget windows
00:26:30.640 and you know what they say they say oh well we're going to do all the spending in the upfront years
00:26:35.340 and we're going to have the cuts in year seven eight nine ten so what did errington's budget
00:26:39.580 had deep cuts in the early years and that is all that matters why could that why could people
00:26:45.780 not rally around that that's what everybody's talked about well we had one member of the
00:26:48.920 conference stand up and say if there's any cuts to the fbi or doj that that member couldn't support
00:26:54.960 them because then we would be defunding the police we had we had some members stand up and say we can't
00:27:00.400 possibly cut any foreign aid and the errington budget substantially cut foreign aid uh we had
00:27:06.440 members stand up and say oh well you know uh the the farm bill and the food uh snap uh work
00:27:12.880 requirements you know have to be very flexible for people with dependents and i think errington's
00:27:18.040 suggestion is there might be even people with dependents who have to make some effort at work
00:27:24.180 or job training or improvement and so the errington budget was not full of easy choices but the easy
00:27:30.940 choices are gone you've given a lot of talks about this we're not in a point where you can just say
00:27:37.080 waste fraud and abuse and get to a balanced budget you have to have deep cuts in early years
00:27:41.640 program and and i hope that because jody errington saw that realized that truth and spoke the truth
00:27:49.500 that that wasn't a basis for anyone to try to undercut him let me real quickly but then he came
00:27:54.900 and said i can't have a budget done until september which is after the i mean it's the dead center why
00:27:58.700 did he do that well jody errington has a budget and we've seen it and so i don't know about the timing
00:28:05.360 of access to the floor but here's what's happening all all these republicans and leadership are trying to
00:28:10.700 get everybody on board with a plan to go and and vote for one plan and what i'm telling you is there
00:28:16.240 are 218 votes for that but what we need to do is have every plan and to have them on the floor and
00:28:21.020 to take votes if we can take 15 votes to get a speaker we could take a lot of votes to get a
00:28:24.820 short break gates are still with us
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00:29:38.680 make sure you go to um birchgold.com slash bannon to get all three installments in the dollar empire
00:29:46.680 including the the last latest episode the debt trap the debt trap because in the debt trap you
00:29:53.060 see all the fights we got going on here uh about what matt gates is talking about okay you've been at
00:29:58.740 the the tip of the spear here let me so if you can't have one budget because you can't work it out
00:30:04.840 behind the scenes your voterama isn't your voterama just more of you know they say bannon's an agent of
00:30:12.620 chaos matt gates is his agent of chaos in congress isn't that just going to be chaotic yes and sometimes
00:30:19.060 you have to go through a chaotic moment to have a productive outcome you see what the special interests
00:30:25.720 thrive on here is the lack of chaos because they swim real well in the calm waters and they don't do so
00:30:32.240 well in the turbulent waters where there is individual review and competing ideas and clash
00:30:39.040 around the debate process that's what they have designed an entire system to evade and so here is
00:30:46.780 my theory we go to the floor under a budget resolution rule under which we put up joe biden's
00:30:53.420 budget and see who votes on that errington's budget the freedom caucus budget the main street
00:30:58.880 budget and you had the democrats just like that first week chaotic you had the democrats arguing
00:31:03.100 you have real drama here aoc sitting there saying why matt gates is the worst person in the world
00:31:07.480 because you're stripping all the poor people of their dignity well i want to strip this place
00:31:12.560 of its path to an easy way to screw my fellow americans and i think the way to do that is to have
00:31:19.900 a chaotic week two weeks i don't care if it takes a month we go to the floor and we debate everyone's
00:31:26.960 ideas and they have to stand behind them and defend them and you know what would make it even better
00:31:30.900 turn back on the c-span cameras so that you can see us on the floor it'd be unbelievable working it out
00:31:36.080 and it would result first of all the people would finally get an understanding of what this is all
00:31:41.120 about what they when they talk about these but 6.8 trillion dollar budgets by doing that people
00:31:45.480 would start to understand it yeah and you know what i don't know exactly where that would land
00:31:50.220 it's not clean and it's not easy but i know where we are now april with no republican budget
00:31:57.820 on our path to some sort of shutdown or acceptance of a senate you've got the debt ceiling you've got
00:32:04.780 budget but then you have the appropriations please tell me we are doing the appropriations process
00:32:09.360 through regular order or does that have to wait till the budget's done first is these 12 appropriations
00:32:14.400 so we're not going to get into this jam that we have nothing again you get down august september
00:32:19.000 and you get the september 30th deadline and they're gonna go give me a continue give me an
00:32:23.640 omnibus continue resolution the smart guys with the green eye shades in this town would say oh well
00:32:28.460 we have to separate the discussion from the of the debt limit from the budget resolution from the
00:32:33.700 appropriations process but let's be honest here this is about fixing a fiscal nightmare that our country
00:32:40.840 is facing and it is really one debate and one discussion and there are a series of levers to create
00:32:48.020 downward pressure on that spending and to isolate programs and authorities and now people because of the
00:32:54.320 concessions we got during the first week of january to reinstitute the holman rule so that we can force
00:32:59.420 individual votes on individual bureaucrats who exceed their authority and you know what we may have to do that a lot
00:33:04.820 on the front end but that will have a therapeutic effect on the process going going forward i hope forever
00:33:11.480 and and though that chaos will showcase divisions in the conference i'd far rather do that in front of
00:33:19.200 the american people and if the answer is we can't get to 218 republican votes for anything then you know
00:33:23.860 what the american people should see that too one of the reasons you have such unique power appears you
00:33:28.680 don't take money from the special interests and one of the reasons is you're very close to your
00:33:32.580 constituents it's pretty amazing what and your constituents are because there's massive military
00:33:37.720 presence down there a lot of veterans it's it's classic hard-working america what do they tell you
00:33:44.340 when they look at this confusing mess of the spending the debt limit all of it what what do they tell you
00:33:49.220 how do they inform you and your decisions here well a lot of them are angry that we're in this position
00:33:53.820 and they want to know whose fault it is and the reality is that we have designed a system in
00:33:59.320 washington where no one's really accountable for the spending if you're in the legislature or the the
00:34:06.100 congress you could say oh well the president's budget didn't balance and well i couldn't vote to
00:34:10.980 defund the va and the military so i had to vote for all these other social spending program it was
00:34:15.800 the democrats who made me it was the senate who made me and the entire organizing principle of what
00:34:22.060 we did in january was to ensure that we never governed by omnibus again and that the people who tried
00:34:27.860 to bring us back there would be stripped of their power and that we would do that to them and uh i worry
00:34:35.620 that we are careening toward that eventuality i am hopeful for concepts like work requirements that do
00:34:42.580 unite broad swaths of the of the conference but we are not at a point right now where we have coalesced
00:34:49.900 around one idea set and i don't think we're particularly close and the only thing that got this group to
00:34:55.860 coalesce before was 15 votes on the floor and if we're willing to take them c-span for that every
00:35:02.440 second and c-span watching the drama and you criticize oh it's chaotic look we got a actual
00:35:07.440 system in places working but let me when you guys get back when when congress returns monday or tuesday
00:35:13.100 of next week after the easter recess you've got you have to land the plane on a number this is one but
00:35:20.160 you got the border security bill you've got how is this all going to come together that shows that
00:35:25.620 the republican house can actually govern steve scalise manages the time on the floor and i don't
00:35:31.200 think for those who have questions about this it's entirely fair to go and blame kevin mccarthy like
00:35:36.620 you can't take away all kevin mccarthy's tools to solve our problems on how things are sequenced on
00:35:42.240 the floor and then somehow suggest that he come in and save us and solve all of our problems we have
00:35:48.540 to work this out as a conference as people with different ideological views from urban and rural areas
00:35:54.200 from the northeast and the south and the midwest we got to come together and i don't think we're
00:35:59.240 going to do that in the absence of a whole lot of votes and some would call them show votes but
00:36:04.460 honestly i'm tired of hearing when i present an idea oh well that won't work because we've heard
00:36:09.200 there's some moderates who are against it you know where are they let's put it on the boards and if
00:36:13.340 they think that people who hold my viewpoint won't vote for more money for ukraine or budgets that
00:36:19.480 um flood social services that are wasteful then they'll be able to see how we vote as well give
00:36:25.800 our audience before we turn to these leaks in the pentagon in ukraine just give us a your i let our
00:36:31.840 audience know in the first two weeks back what is matt gates envisions going to happen well i'm going
00:36:36.440 to be very focused on these border security bills because in the house judiciary committee we are going
00:36:40.920 to be moving the legislation that is detain or turn away and that really you know there's a lot of talk
00:36:47.360 no more let him go into the country no no more parole into the country and by the way it's easy
00:36:52.100 in border security to get caught up please tell me that's good please tell me the conferences in back
00:36:56.000 of that well uh it is up in the judiciary committee in april kevin mccarthy promised me that the substance
00:37:03.920 of hr 29 which is the detain or turn away legislation that that will be up on the floor in may he made me
00:37:10.720 that promise in front of the conference and so far kevin mccarthy's had a pretty pretty good fidelity to
00:37:15.640 promises he's made so i'm hopeful for that now tony gonzalez or as i occasionally call him amnest tony
00:37:21.240 gonzalez has declared that legislation dead so we'll see but we should take a vote on it and we shouldn't
00:37:27.800 fear those bills going down if they don't have the votes because some would say if you get some pro
00:37:33.040 amnesty republicans that aren't going to be for them you just shelve it and move some milk toast bill
00:37:38.460 to the floor instead and i believe that that we owe it to our voters to take a vote on that legislation
00:37:46.060 because that is what we promised people we would do um let's go to we got about five or six minutes
00:37:51.580 left i've got to go to these leaks because you're one of the most informed people about national
00:37:55.680 security first off your overall sense it's quite odd they're saying in a gaming site on 4chan nothing
00:38:01.640 makes sense about this you agree with that well i watched a system update with glenn greenwald
00:38:08.000 recently and i was persuaded by the analysis that he applied to the method of these leaks uh the the
00:38:17.180 way they were reported on by mainstream media and then also the substance of them and greenwald makes
00:38:23.740 the argument that this has what is it all the indicia of an information operation from our own
00:38:32.540 government to try to put this out to try to engage europe to a greater degree in the ukraine fight
00:38:39.060 and to try to spin up the american people um on some of you're saying you're saying that the brutal
00:38:45.880 revelations here about the casualties the russians versus ukrainians and are are basically saying to the
00:38:51.780 joint chiefs that the spring offensive of zelinski's got no thrust to it's not going to happen
00:38:56.180 your theory i think they're sending a message to europe that you got to possibly with that
00:39:00.840 they're gonna you know they'll they'll all call me a conspiracy theorist but i i found the glenn
00:39:05.660 greenwald arguments compelling very compelling and i am open-minded to that theory um what else about
00:39:12.800 that what about uh what else about this struck you about other things you saw that were the content
00:39:18.240 that was released not the methodology um you know the you sit on you sit on armed services it's a lot
00:39:24.820 of information that the biden administration has bragged about publicly about their willingness to do
00:39:30.880 anything and everything for ukraine uh and you've heard but it is not work but it is not working they
00:39:36.640 they this document does say it's not the triumphalist narrative is a lie you agree just what's what's
00:39:42.420 report now they're saying what some slides were doctored you could tell they were doctored the
00:39:46.480 triumphalist narrative does not you maybe try to get other people more serious to come on here
00:39:51.740 but it's not it the facts themselves as laid out in the content is not a positive for the well i don't
00:39:58.280 i don't know that that is a particular secret and when you look at the reporting that you've seen
00:40:04.660 globally around what's going on in ukraine i don't know that there's some extensive revelation
00:40:09.540 that you come to with that information that's that's different than what i've been telling people
00:40:15.680 yes i know several months i've been making this argument but it reinforces your argument which
00:40:20.080 is not what the narrative is in the city what about macron's trip what about macron we now know
00:40:25.480 politico it's breaking today politico breitbart's reporting they backed off actually giving his true
00:40:30.800 accounting of what it was in beijing which is worse than is even being reported what about our great
00:40:34.840 allies in nato basically walking away from the taiwan situation i think there's a growing realization
00:40:41.140 that in taiwan the west will be playing an away game and i think people are coming to grips with that
00:40:47.300 and when you know you see uh nato interacting with china it doesn't appear as though the entity has really
00:40:56.740 pivoted to an adversarial role with china you you represent one of the most important naval facilities
00:41:01.880 in the world the seventh do you believe that the seventh fleet out of out of at a pearl uh is capable
00:41:09.560 of defending uh an air breaking an air naval blockade of the chinese congress party pla around
00:41:17.040 uh taiwan or stopping an air assault that would seize those chip facilities as you see it today
00:41:22.320 not without extensive unbearable casualties to americans
00:41:27.380 and that would be i keep saying that if we walk into the sucker punch and don't go to unrestricted
00:41:35.540 warfare now of information war cyber particularly economic war that you could see a carrier battle
00:41:41.900 group on the bottom of the south china sea we have many assets that would be capable once they were in
00:41:49.720 the fight but i wonder how they get in the fight as i review uh china's growing cyber capability they're
00:41:57.560 growing quantum capability they're growing ai capability they're growing drone capability they're
00:42:02.780 growing anti-aircraft capability they're growing air superiority particularly in that sphere of the world
00:42:09.560 and uh their hypersonic ability to hit moving targets i i wonder whether or not the littoral combat ships
00:42:19.480 that uh we are we are birthing with the hopes that they'll be in that fight uh carrier groups i
00:42:25.440 wonder how capable they will be we want to get you back on for a number of things uh how do people
00:42:29.760 i've suggested the uh the war room war game let's get some of the smartest people in the world in
00:42:34.380 this who understand who love to how people would bring stuff in the fight organize that and we'll do
00:42:39.700 it uh firebrand where do people go to get more about you firebrand's my podcast make sure to take a
00:42:44.760 listen anywhere on the internet and at matt gates and at rep matt gates you're a patriot and a hero
00:42:50.680 sir thanks for having me steve congressman matt gates uh broke a lot of news this morning okay
00:42:54.760 short commercial break mike lindell i think we're gonna try to go to new mexico for a big uh turning
00:42:59.140 point usa event that's going to happen and we're going to have mike lindell on here in a second i want
00:43:04.060 to thank congressman gates taking time away from this busy schedule on this recess to come and join us
00:43:09.100 be back in a moment bring it on and now we'll fight to the end just watch and see it's all started
00:43:16.640 everything's begun and you are over because we're taking down the ccp spread the word all through
00:43:26.820 hong kong we will fight till they're all gone we rejoice when there's no more let's take down the ccp
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00:46:06.300 responsible for the content of this advertising uh mike lindell by the way governor santa still has
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00:46:17.580 have my thoughts of that up on uh getter so you can check that out now uh governor santa still not
00:46:23.120 come out and uh counter this with uh the facts about this i think it's very wise another poll out today
00:46:30.360 in south carolina shows trump's up way up in south carolina so i think that poll numbers are pretty evident
00:46:35.880 of how this thing's breaking right now uh mike lindell uh you gave a uh a barn burner at the trump 47
00:46:42.580 or trump 45 whatever the clubs call it mar-a-lago the other night uh cnn is now reporting on shasta in
00:46:50.140 missouri these counties are going to all paper ballots uh give us an update on everything that's going on
00:46:55.520 yeah they've uh the the left new the left wing news is sure uh going after it they're making uh
00:47:02.400 you know they're getting it out there the word out there it was amazing in uh missouri in osage
00:47:08.560 county we now we have a prototype or a proof of concept they did the whole election with paper
00:47:15.500 ballots hand counted they were 20 minutes later than all the machine counts in uh in missouri which
00:47:21.940 they had major problems with many of the electronic voting machines there was not one glitch and not
00:47:28.780 one problem with the paper ballot hand counted and um then you got shasta county over in california we
00:47:35.560 have many other counties steve but we're not gonna we're not gonna put them out there right now
00:47:39.360 obviously because we they get out in front of it the media and they attack it and they come in from
00:47:43.860 every angle including our own party sometimes like they did him as in arkansas and uh which is great
00:47:50.580 news i have great news everybody i'm uh made the i've been dealing with uh and making our talking
00:47:56.380 to many of the members of the rnc including ronna mcdaniel and uh and they as you know did a
00:48:03.460 resolution in january to that to that could be could be completely against rank choice voting
00:48:09.260 and ballot harvesting and and now we're working together on another resolution hopefully we can get
00:48:15.840 to a agreement with paper ballots hand counted voter id same day voting make it a holiday and uh these
00:48:23.180 are the things we're working on this is uh we're making great progress all across the country and i
00:48:28.120 just i when i did that speech in uh at club 47 um they um i've gotten hundreds of people have text me
00:48:35.860 and emailed me saying that was such a great inspiration um um speech of hope and and uh and people need to
00:48:42.860 hear that steve they need to hear about what we talk about on your station and stuff and you're not
00:48:47.880 going to hear these things on fox news or newsmax and and these places because they're not going to
00:48:52.840 talk to you talk about paper ballots hand counted and how this system actually works
00:48:57.840 with uh we start voting in the primaries uh in january of of next year so we're what i don't know
00:49:06.940 eight nine months away is there enough time you believe to implement and to put an infrastructure
00:49:12.040 together that gets us off the mail-in ballots gets us off this and you basically have a game day vote
00:49:17.400 do you think it's given that you're working on the rnc you're going to have these resolutions
00:49:20.960 are they organized enough at the state level to actually make this happen either for the primaries
00:49:27.660 or for the general in 2024 the general i'm hoping we have uh everything completely paper hand counted
00:49:35.680 uh same day voting uh by the primaries i i believe we'll have hundreds of counties because we're going
00:49:41.980 from the bottom up we're working with all you know county by county and you can all do it in your
00:49:46.600 county out there if you're a citizen in your county just go up and tell your election officials we want
00:49:52.000 paper ballots hand counted we don't want those electronic voting machines everybody's doing it now
00:49:57.000 we're all getting on board and i believe steve will have enough gone where if they cheat with the
00:50:02.920 machines it's going to stand out like a sore thumb it's going to just stand out uh remember
00:50:07.880 everybody when they take elections when they do this electronically it's like skim off a casino you
00:50:14.680 don't you don't take all the money at a blackjack table or or or the craps table or one slot machine
00:50:20.200 you have to skip you have to steal from all the machines and all the and all the uh uh the uh
00:50:27.180 devices in a casino just like our election you have to take from all the three thousand some
00:50:32.300 odd counties and uh that's what they've been doing and we're we're stopping it and uh so it's uh
00:50:38.140 i i have i have great hope steve i mean we've got it's uh god gave us grace for such a time as this
00:50:43.760 because think if we didn't have all this evidence and all this stuff we'd be sitting here going now
00:50:48.540 what do we do instead we have we have a way forward real quick because i know we want to talk about
00:50:54.800 the company for a second um this breaking news the rnc what specifically are you doing with the rnc
00:51:00.360 right now because i think it's a news headline when mike lindell says i'm working with the rnc
00:51:03.840 yeah well we're working with a lot of the 168 and i had i did have a phone call with ronna mcdaniel
00:51:10.060 and i find out what they've already done with the election platforms which is january passing that
00:51:15.660 resolution to um to out you know to get rid of ranked choice voting that was a big thing but what
00:51:20.720 we're doing is getting together another resolution that they're going to get together
00:51:24.500 to make it paper ballots hand counted um um voter id same day voting steve we need this
00:51:31.940 so that when i go into states and our group go into states we're not fighting our own party
00:51:37.360 and if then if the rnc endorses all this now you go into a state and you got some republican going
00:51:44.220 from the gop going i don't i love machines i love these machines you're gonna the public's gonna go
00:51:49.660 uh that's not what you endorse we want paper ballots hand counting for we want to have elections
00:51:55.300 not selection so uh this just started now the last week here and i'll get an update on this
00:52:00.740 as we as we move along towards this great resolution mike we got about 30 seconds topper 2.0 how do
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