Bannon's War Room - July 30, 2024


Episode 3793： Dems Plan To Pack SCOTUS; The Permanent Government In DC


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00:00:00.000 disgrace and from my standpoint as a black American as far as I'm concerned
00:00:07.980 it is a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deign to think for
00:00:14.700 themselves to do for themselves to have different ideas and it is a message that
00:00:22.000 unless you kowtow to an old order this is what will happen to you you will be
00:00:28.980 lynched destroyed caricatured by a committee of the u.s. u.s. senate rather than hung from a tree
00:00:40.540 calling for a constitutional amendment called no one is above the law amendment
00:00:46.240 i mean it sincerely it holds there's no immunity for crimes former president committed while in
00:00:57.940 office i share our founder's belief a president must answer to the law the president is accountable
00:01:09.680 in the exercise of the great power of the presidency we're a nation of laws not kings and dictators
00:01:15.860 the decision can be boiled down to the title of one case trump versus the united states this idea
00:01:26.860 of a constitutional amendment it's it's met with a great deal of uh sentimental support
00:01:32.260 how practical is it have you have you thought about how that would actually unfold well you know they have
00:01:38.600 to be uh adopted by a majority super majority of the states in addition to passing through the uh the congress
00:01:48.540 um i suspect that this could go fairly quickly you have to understand what a truly bizarre aberration
00:01:55.820 the trump versus united states decision was it is very peculiar it creates an immunity that is not
00:02:04.860 found in the constitution anywhere except except the constitution has one immunity it's for legislators
00:02:12.740 to protect them from being harassed and attacked by the executive branch so they can go about doing their
00:02:21.140 duty so the founding fathers thought about this and they put in immunity for certain types of
00:02:29.340 legislative officials for certain types of legislative conduct but not things like treason and then along
00:02:36.820 comes the supreme court and says no no the founding fathers got it wrong we know better than they do they
00:02:42.580 never mentioned immunity for the president but we're gonna make that up and we're gonna give that to him
00:02:48.400 and by the way we'll include treason it just makes no sense so i think it's going to be
00:02:53.460 it's a pretty rotten decision and things that are rotten tend to stink and stinks stand just stinks
00:03:01.220 tend to stick and uh that i think that moves the public the real interesting things i find with project
00:03:07.840 2025 is that there's no section on the supreme court right and the reason why there's no section on the
00:03:14.140 supreme court is because they already have it they've already captured it and so project 2025 is looking
00:03:19.880 to make the doj work hand in hand with the supreme court which has already gutted the voting rights
00:03:25.120 act which has already gutted affirmative action literally made it uh illegal and again
00:03:29.240 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these
00:03:40.360 people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have had a
00:03:47.080 belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything in the world
00:03:50.880 to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people like that go
00:03:54.900 to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people had a conscience
00:04:03.040 ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my country
00:04:10.380 this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k van
00:04:17.080 good morning harnwell here at the helm tuesday 30th of july and no domini 2024 a little later on the
00:04:30.280 show we're going to be discussing anthony blink and i think probably to date the highest administration
00:04:35.500 official now demanding election integrity saying that every vote has to count and calling on full
00:04:42.460 uh electoral transparency obviously he's not interested in the united states of america but
00:04:48.140 we'll be looking at that uh a little later on in the show and digging down what the consequences
00:04:52.580 might actually mean for the united states itself as we prepare for november uh the 5th what many
00:04:59.240 commentators including this one here will speculate will also be an issue confronting uh election
00:05:05.000 integrity first i have a mark pay letter we're going to discuss i think probably the most substantial
00:05:11.060 issue facing the united states right now there are a couple of things here to do with these biden
00:05:17.660 proposals some of them involve being a formal constitutional amendment others simply achieved
00:05:23.820 by legislation i wonder if you could sort of break down the difference between what's going on here
00:05:27.960 but we're talking as i see there are three substantial things here there's the um there's the
00:05:33.620 presidential immunity there were the term limits and this sort of this process for um the supreme court
00:05:42.240 justices but also this code of conduct could you say good morning mark could you could you explain
00:05:47.160 sort of how these three things um what the process is for these three things and then we'll discuss
00:05:53.840 uh the realistic prospects of actually seeing them um arrive formally yeah thanks ben thanks for
00:06:01.960 having me on um you know this continues the ratcheting up um on the supreme court in particular by the
00:06:08.680 left to destroy it um biden's proposal um one is this this constitutional amendment uh no one is above the
00:06:16.900 law some crazy thing like that um as as chief justice robert said it is the law right in terms of
00:06:23.020 immunity for a president that's baked into our constitution and its separation of powers with the executive
00:06:28.760 power being wholly vested in the executive okay and so that's why he has immunity okay from our founders
00:06:36.120 and then we set up the constitution um this is going nowhere fast fast uh a constitutional amendment
00:06:43.500 super majority in the in the congress and then out to the states and a majority i think it's uh three
00:06:49.580 quarters um i i haven't even looked at this recently because it's going nowhere um more focus on the
00:06:55.260 attacks on the court but essentially it's going nowhere it'll never get ratified there is no support for
00:07:01.420 it um and biden is just throwing a sop to the left because he's a failed president who quit um after one
00:07:08.400 term and being and and pushed out um the more nefarious ones in my view are these proposals on the supreme court
00:07:16.100 and what biden proposed is uh an 18 year term limit on supreme court justices um and an in for what he
00:07:26.300 calls an enforceable code of ethics with respect to the both of them are own constitution i'll tell you
00:07:31.280 why with respect to the 18 year term limit um you know the supreme court justices are appointed for
00:07:37.360 life um you know in the constitution it says for good behavior which has been interpreted be for life
00:07:42.900 and that's important because we don't want justices in my view and i think the founders view
00:07:46.900 to be worrying about their life after being on the court for 15 years or whatever okay we want them to
00:07:52.400 be honest uh and impartial and have no concern about kind of where they go from here so i think it's a
00:07:59.200 good system um but if you're going to change it you need a constitutional amendment what biden does and
00:08:04.460 i think it's tracking off you saw the the most vicious attacker of the supreme court uh senator white
00:08:09.500 house um a hypocrite par excellence but um is that they would have the president appoint a justice uh
00:08:18.040 in the first and third year of their presidencies essentially adding uh nine justices to the supreme
00:08:25.360 court and then taking away the jurisdiction for the for the most senior justices to be able to sit
00:08:31.760 on cases so it's not like you're term limiting they could sit on the supreme court we're just
00:08:36.160 uh the proposal would be to deny those justices the ability to sit on most of the court's um cases
00:08:43.280 that's clearly unconstitutional but it's this end run about around around a constitutional amendment
00:08:49.140 okay it's a wacky idea uh that will that will never happen but that's what they're pushing that's what
00:08:54.420 white house has been pushing that's what this biden proposal pushes so that the first person that
00:08:59.200 would be affected by that is justice thomas he would be basically disqualified from sitting on cases
00:09:04.200 okay he wouldn't be off the supreme court he would basically be just like a senior justice
00:09:08.120 um and then the second part of biden's proposal um is uh this so-called enforceable code of ethics the
00:09:16.600 supreme court has an ethic a code of ethics okay they've been following codes of ethics for many many
00:09:21.180 years there's no ethics crisis there's no one who can point to a single case or anything where a
00:09:26.200 justice had a conflict of interest or that you know shaped their their jurisprudence um but because of
00:09:32.120 all the hubbub last year on the attack the code the court did adopt one that essentially packaged up
00:09:37.320 what they had been following right and and and and now biden uh and actually elena kagan uh shockingly
00:09:44.240 say that you need some kind of outside body that will enforce that code of ethics okay and and there's
00:09:50.360 some suggestions that would be lower court judges but that's unconstitutional right the supreme court
00:09:55.640 is established in the constitution all lower courts are created by congress and they are inferior courts
00:10:00.900 so to have like lower court judges sitting uh to rule on ethics allegations or recusal complaints
00:10:07.640 against their bosses is unworkable but also unconstitutional and all it is is to get sort
00:10:13.920 of the camel's nose under the tent right to allow these get all these sorts of ethics complaints on all
00:10:19.620 crazy things like just the absurdity right of somebody flying a flag at their home and and they should
00:10:26.020 be disqualified from a case or you should be impeached for doing something like that right that's what they
00:10:30.720 want they want a system that's going to allow a avalanche of ethics complaints to go after the
00:10:36.680 justices and then have these other lower court judges some of whom may have it in for these justices
00:10:41.740 right to rule on it and so it's it's not constitutional because there's nothing that can
00:10:47.200 sit on the supreme court and at the end of the day people will say well who will do it our system is
00:10:51.860 set up where it's the supreme court these are good people on the supreme court right we may disagree
00:10:56.720 with their opinions we may think they're too liberal we may think whatever but they're good
00:11:00.540 you know ethical people and until somebody shows otherwise you know um it it's it this is a fool's
00:11:07.420 errand to to to advocate for what's called an enforceable code of ethics um i'll just we can talk more on
00:11:15.200 those things i'll talk about congress and how unethical they are but but go ahead
00:11:18.700 mark um so basically the supreme court itself can strike down quite legitimately any legislative
00:11:27.000 sort of act um that would limit their discretion as unconstitutional um if that's what you're saying
00:11:34.120 so this is a purely performative act then on behalf of president biden to release um this proposal
00:11:40.800 what what is that right it's totally performative is that right yeah it's performative again let me put
00:11:47.540 it this way yes it's not going anywhere right now if the left wins in november i do believe that
00:11:55.040 the left has just jumped the shark and when i say the left i mean the democrat party and if they win
00:12:00.680 the presidency in the house and senate i do believe they will pack the court um this thing about term
00:12:05.180 limits and all that stuff they can enact that i don't think the supreme court would go along with
00:12:09.360 it but it is dangerous in the sense that if they win in november i do think that they will destroy
00:12:14.800 the supreme court as we know it and it's not an overstatement to sort of say like we will descend
00:12:19.780 into or we could descend into venezuela like um you know chaos uh we saw a great country where the
00:12:27.620 socialist communists took over the supreme court they packed it from i think 14 justices to 24
00:12:32.880 and and and i think it's like 45 000 opinions that were all in favor of the government and so
00:12:39.200 it is dangerous it's not going anywhere right now and so um but but it is dangerous and must be pushed
00:12:45.340 back on it was fdr right who who first presented formally this concept of court packing in order
00:12:52.620 to get through his uh unconstitutional national recovery act um and of course but let me point
00:12:58.960 something on that ben because you know people talk about about fdr and sort of how he failed but he
00:13:05.060 didn't fail right i mean there was some blowback on it but at the end of the day you know what he did
00:13:09.540 he broke a justice justice owen roberts there's this old saying uh you may have heard a switch in time
00:13:15.920 saved nine and that's because the the supreme court was striking down fdr's unconstitutional new deal
00:13:23.440 a massive expansion of federal power and and he went after them and wanted to pack the court um and
00:13:29.240 and what happened is that justice owen roberts switched his vote under the pressure right and so that's
00:13:34.780 what i thought and so he didn't need to pack the court he now had a supreme court to to vote on his
00:13:39.000 his new deal okay mike lee has a great book saving nine that goes through this and so the point is i
00:13:44.560 think the left thought they could do that this time around and break some of our justices okay uh and and
00:13:49.920 and it didn't happen and that's a good thing right the strength of the of of the the conservative
00:13:55.140 justices to not bend to the to the left's assaults mark paletto we've got 40 seconds i'm going to ask you
00:14:02.780 the question now perhaps uh you you can give me your response after the break um but you know the
00:14:07.940 one thing that i admire about the democrats even someone flailing and failing and disappearing
00:14:14.840 like president biden is that they're always normally on the attack they're always pushing us
00:14:20.200 onto the back foot into the defensive posture um i'm going to pick up on on what i think was ellie
00:14:25.500 mistold who said in the cold open that what was lacking or absent from project 25 are are what
00:14:32.180 trump's proposals for the supreme court would be um i sort of think that there's a there's a there's a
00:14:38.780 legitimate point in that um because i think it's an opportunity for the gop now for not for the gop
00:14:44.460 for trump for donald trump himself to suggest a constitutional amendment and in five seconds we'll go to the
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00:16:04.940 welcome back here with uh mark pay letter from the center for renewing america mark we were just um
00:16:14.880 talking about fdr um and his threat successful threat um to pack the supreme court um that he
00:16:25.060 would have had no power not even implicitly um to to make that threat were the the constitution to
00:16:32.460 have fixed the number of supreme court justices which as far as i'm aware has changed through time
00:16:37.640 right i think it started off with seven or something um and then grew up to nine um towards
00:16:42.880 the end i don't know of the of the 1800s um but benign i think it's been fixed for well over a
00:16:49.280 century if nine were with a number however that was fixed in the constitution no president not
00:16:55.120 donald trump not joe biden no future president would be able to to to make this threat and have
00:17:00.800 it hanging over the supreme court's head um so in talking following on from ellie mistle's point
00:17:07.100 and in the cold open why doesn't why why doesn't the gop instead of reacting always to what the
00:17:15.020 democrats are doing why don't we come forward with our own uh proposal for constitutional amendment
00:17:19.600 fixing the number of supreme court justices
00:17:22.200 um i think look i i think nine is a great number uh there are some efforts on on the right to have a
00:17:31.420 constitutional amendment um there's a a an ally uh roman buehler has a group i think called
00:17:37.980 saving nine uh which is that advocates for a constitutional amendment look even if you had
00:17:43.680 a constitutional amendment right just like you're seeing with this presidential immunity the left
00:17:47.420 could say we want a new constitutional amendment to increase it to 13 or whatever right so you're
00:17:52.600 always going to have the left trying to battle uh you know to to control the court whether it's by
00:17:57.780 packing it or taking away their jurisdiction or things like that um again ellie mistle is just
00:18:03.300 furious that we've been very successful president trump appointing three justices that have revolutionized
00:18:10.840 uh american jurisprudence in a good way back to its founding principles uh you know starting with
00:18:16.320 justice thomas back in 91 uh and him laying out this this this roadmap uh for the current court but
00:18:22.000 you know i so i think project 2025 i haven't read uh their their their their work i know there's a
00:18:28.280 lot of great ideas in there um but on this i think it's they were more focused on the executive branch
00:18:33.380 type things um but look uh you know if there's an amendment for nine on the supreme court that would
00:18:39.120 be great because the the left uh wants to make it harder certainly ben to to to try and uh control the
00:18:45.660 supreme court um but i do think even if you had a constitutional amendment um you know there could be a threat
00:18:51.500 of getting another one right so it's really winning the power uh the the idea that we want an independent
00:18:57.340 court if you look at the polling like 90 of the american people want an independent court
00:19:01.900 but that so so when you think about that that means you know left or right like this is a separate
00:19:08.040 branch of government uh that that should be that should be independent and not bullied by by and not be
00:19:14.200 a rubber stamp for congress right that's what makes our country so great and so wonderful um the left
00:19:19.840 doesn't like it though uh and we always have to fight these these these battles i do think this
00:19:24.360 is our greatest supreme court in a hundred years and it's worth defending here's a question for you
00:19:30.260 mark on term limits which i think we said earlier uh for the supreme court i mean the whole thing
00:19:34.780 all of it is unconstitutional from start to finish right um but so just to keep the discussion open
00:19:40.640 for term limits when it comes to the supreme court that the proposal itself comes from um joe biden
00:19:46.840 who's been grifting uh he's president now or resident i should say white house resident um but
00:19:53.880 this is a guy who spent like nearly 50 years in in the senate right are we gonna have a grifter as a
00:19:59.380 senator 50 years why don't we fight back and say before we discuss term limits for the supreme court let's
00:20:07.700 discuss term limits for the house of representatives in the senate yeah look i i've been somebody that you
00:20:15.580 you know the american people know when they want to get rid of their their representative or their
00:20:20.420 senator um and you know let let let the battles and and elections play out in that way there's term
00:20:27.060 limits on presidents um it is funny that joe biden uh who should have uh left after his first term but
00:20:33.020 didn't understand how incapable he was uh decided to run for a second term so um um but it's uh it's
00:20:40.620 just an attack on the court uh to try and lessen their uh you know their their role in our in our
00:20:47.960 constitutional structures so um you know term limits and i and some people i think on the right have
00:20:54.040 suggested term limits for justices i don't agree with them and if you think about it it's what is
00:20:58.380 it to do it's supposed to keep pace with the times it's supposed to i'm not exactly sure what it's
00:21:02.780 supposed to do what i find right is that these lifetime justices from the old days the liberals who
00:21:09.720 tried to change the constitution to keep up with the times right that's what they were doing that's
00:21:15.100 exactly what they should not be doing so you know whether a justice has been on the court for 10 years
00:21:20.480 or 30 years our greatest supreme court justice has been on the supreme court for 33 years that's
00:21:25.320 clarence thomas okay um and it's first principles it doesn't matter how long you've been on the court
00:21:30.920 if you're doing your job right it it doesn't matter right first principles constitutional principles
00:21:37.460 are immutable and they stay that way uh if the legislature wants to change things so i found
00:21:42.540 that long-term serving justices like justice brennan right tried to kind of keep up with the
00:21:48.860 times and change the constitution in a living constitution way and that's a terrible idea so
00:21:53.540 i'm not sure what term limits would do to that other than make them more susceptible to post-employment
00:21:59.940 uh sort of opportunities um and and and and kind of affect their jurisprudence that way
00:22:05.580 well i think um and this is what scares me because knowing how the the how the uni party works how
00:22:13.480 republicans and democrats alike are very able to work together when it's to to maximize their own
00:22:19.840 power and lack of accountability i could i think the consequence of this is that it would bring the
00:22:24.540 supreme court under the under the great more under the control of of congress fundamentally um and
00:22:31.260 looking at biden's proposal as as is of having these sort of there's 18 year term limits and then
00:22:37.300 up to 18 justices it would politicize you know if you think the court is politicized at the moment
00:22:44.000 because senate needs to uh to confirm that the the nominee the president's nomination having this
00:22:50.240 process would would massively politicize the supreme court uh a lot a lot more mark um just before you
00:22:57.560 go what would you suggest the posse needs to look out for as these um proposals start to be talked about
00:23:04.860 and i understand and i agree with you that they're not really going to go anywhere but what should
00:23:09.160 people be looking for in terms of immediate developments uh first of all ben that was a great great
00:23:14.400 point uh really well said uh on on how it will increase the politicization of the court in the
00:23:19.220 congressional control over the court um look you know all of these ethics complaints that that's
00:23:24.520 that's what they're coming out with now biden's come up with this proposal so all the democrats are
00:23:27.860 running in behind him to prop up all of these lies about justice thomas about justice alito you know
00:23:34.040 read and get out there and defend the supreme court you can follow me at at mark paoletta on x or
00:23:39.420 my website mark paoletta.com that's got a lot of information about why uh you know this court is an
00:23:45.300 ethical court this court is a superb court that all of these attacks um are are partisan and meant to
00:23:51.360 undermine our our greatest institution right now in the united states and again just to go back onto
00:23:56.280 congress you know there are no conflict of interest laws for congress so sheldon white house gets to vote
00:24:02.180 on things that directly affect his wife's uh clients um you know and they allow somebody like bob menendez
00:24:10.000 right a foreign agent a paid foreign agent walking around the halls of congress for years when the
00:24:16.440 senate ethics committee did absolutely nothing right and this guy's still in the senate he's been
00:24:21.720 convicted right so talk about ethics talk about enforceable ethics they are hypocrites you know
00:24:27.140 they are the biggest hypocrites in the world okay when they attack the supreme court fix your own house
00:24:31.840 they're at 17 approval 68.5 disapproval the american people despise congress all right and and they have
00:24:39.400 the audacity to go after ethical and honorable people like justice thomas and justice alito it's it's despicable
00:24:45.300 mark paoletta thanks very much for coming on the show today you are the perfect guest you even spontaneously
00:24:51.000 produce your own social media uh references folks to go to we'll catch up with you soon and thanks for the
00:24:57.220 debriefing god bless thanks ben let's quickly go to the the short video we have now for paul dance and then we'll bounce
00:25:05.400 straight off that it is imperative that every american understand what project 2025 is about
00:25:12.260 and how it would affect every single one of us if it was ever enacted it's remarkable that trump
00:25:18.000 this is even a remarkable thing to say but the most extreme things that trump says he tends to say for
00:25:22.840 white christian audiences yeah that statement about he could walk down uh you know fifth avenue and
00:25:27.680 shoot somebody that was at uh evangelical college that he made that statement you know so you know i i don't
00:25:33.980 think this is hyperbole i mean i really do think like this document we are getting in real time a
00:25:39.620 telegraphed statement about what they intend to do and it's an authoritarian white christian nationalist
00:25:45.960 vision where as you said it's white christian men who are at the top of the power pyramid the word order
00:25:51.500 appears over and over an ordered society a well-ordered society ordered liberty all that is code for
00:25:57.840 hierarchy uh right it's this old 19th century vision uh that has this ancient and it's not
00:26:03.900 all christians to be sure but this older vision of a white christian america really baked into the
00:26:09.280 center of it alarms you the most there's actually two sentences out of all this 900 pages uh that i
00:26:14.940 think were the most chilling to me to read i'm just going to read them here yes they said an individual
00:26:20.020 must be free to live as his creator ordained in order to flourish our constitution grants each of
00:26:27.540 us the liberty to do not what we want but what we ought now who gets to define that ought the very
00:26:35.240 next sentence gives us a clue the pursuit of the good life is found primarily in family marriage
00:26:40.540 children thanksgiving dinners and the like so that other 900 pages that that's in the forward this
00:26:45.880 document that what the other 900 pages really are about that 1950s norman rockwell vision of a white
00:26:51.900 christian america you know with white christian men and their heterosexual marriages kind of raining up
00:26:56.640 here and everybody else knowing their place welcome back paul dance we've got like a minute before we
00:27:03.600 head into the the break could you just sort of give us a very quick response to that is that what project
00:27:10.320 2025 is is a norm norman rockwell 1950s vision of of white christians is that really what this project's
00:27:20.400 about this project's about restoring self-governance it's about putting americans back in the room of
00:27:27.360 their own government um what it isn't about is drag queens running around on the south lawn of the
00:27:33.480 of the white house and being saluted as the bravest people now the bravest people were the ones who fought
00:27:39.540 and died and sacrificed for this country over 200 years and it's not what we're seeing the blasphemy
00:27:44.720 uh the the olympics and this really diabolical group so you know to the extent that people want
00:27:50.980 to live and let live work for that but we have to be free to to follow it in each his own religion
00:27:56.640 perfect response paul we'll be back in two minutes after the break
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00:31:37.240 project director paul um at the beginning of the show we had this segment um in the cold open
00:31:44.540 where the folks i think it was msnbc um and ellie mistill specifically highlighted the absence
00:31:51.700 from project 2025 of of any suggestion to do with the supreme court before we dig further into recent
00:31:59.800 developments with project 2025 could you just give us an uh your your response to ellie mistill there
00:32:06.400 why is there nothing in in the 900 pages on the supreme court well i guess my first take is uh a
00:32:15.260 little encouragement that he may have actually read some of it notwithstanding the the blanket lies
00:32:20.420 they say he's correct we don't we don't talk about it the project like mark had said is is really an
00:32:26.240 approach to the executive branch that is um looking at what uh to retake the the government and put
00:32:33.520 people back in place this government of by and for the people we have to start with the executive
00:32:38.620 branch where the president really is the sold um repository of the executive power so yes we don't
00:32:47.180 uh address the supreme court and you know ellie for his you know he's a curious character um that he's even
00:32:54.640 applying on on legal structures i i think he struggled if memory serves to even pass the bar exam
00:32:59.800 in new york state so um you know just to get a glimpse of of the misinformation though that comes
00:33:06.260 out of their mouse and and this great disinformation campaign almost a hoax against the project and
00:33:12.940 president trump i think is is important for the listeners to know uh well i think it's um it's the
00:33:20.560 sign that what you're suggesting in these 900 pages is so important and necessary also with regards to
00:33:28.740 fulfilling the maga agenda it's a sign of that that you can see the level of of opposition uh that the
00:33:35.640 fact that that that that the vested interests and their allies in the mainstream media are going on
00:33:42.760 so hard attacking this your your work i think that's actually a sign not not only of your effectiveness
00:33:49.420 but of actually uh what this might mean to to filling fulfilling the the maga agenda so there's
00:33:57.020 nothing underhand about the lack of proposals and there's nothing sinister that you're that that
00:34:02.240 your reforms potential reforms for the supreme court are are so dramatic you're not even putting them in
00:34:09.460 uh in in project 2025 it's it's it's simply because you're concentrating on on the office of the executive
00:34:17.220 in this instance yeah that that's correct i think you know we we obviously also don't don't go much
00:34:24.200 into congressional rules in the operation of of the um legislative branch but to be clear you know this
00:34:32.560 project why it unnerves them to such an extent is that you know the jig is up we got their number um
00:34:39.600 what cash patel is talking about there is really the operation of the deep state and those of us who
00:34:45.620 are outsiders um you walk into this government and you realize there is a permanent government in
00:34:51.480 washington and it's it works to the exclusion of people listening to this broadcast and and all over
00:34:57.880 the country the solve the earth people who who make um the world go every day um the reality is that
00:35:04.640 in order to to take this back the swamp isn't going to drain itself we need outsiders coming in and
00:35:11.160 committed to this to to doing this and and it's not impossible we what would project 2025 we we built a
00:35:18.540 pathway to encourage folks to do this now to be clear the misinformation this is not donald trump's
00:35:24.120 project 2025 this was stood up years ago in 2022 as really a coming together of the conservative
00:35:31.460 movement we brought over 110 groups together and and this is what also rankles the left is that
00:35:37.920 there's a unified uh group of conservatives on the right that we're not you know in our kind of
00:35:43.640 sibling rivalry constantly but we've come together and on important um areas and really outlined that
00:35:50.460 the threat that we don't accomplish what we need to do is really the architecture this progressive
00:35:57.140 government that's been built up and it's only when you kind of realize the operating system the matrix
00:36:02.600 that we're dealing with that you can begin to affect change so that's the real threat you know when
00:36:08.520 we we lay out personnel proposals like schedule f that that really is a signal that you know why
00:36:15.740 the president is the is the democratic mechanism by which the people indicate which policies they want
00:36:23.200 but why should there be a group of folks right below the president who are countermanding and
00:36:28.280 counteracting what the voters just asked for and that that's really the essence of it so at the end of
00:36:34.400 the day the great conceit is that project 25 is actually here to restore our constitutional republic
00:36:39.900 and the what what you're seeing from the left is not an assault on project on project 2025 it's really
00:36:46.900 projection 2025 who is the dictator who is who has been acting who was in charge of these lockdowns who
00:36:54.280 forced people to take the jab in order to put bread on their table for their kids who are the people who are
00:37:00.560 who are monitoring and de-platforming people on social media who are who are criticizing the ukraine
00:37:06.760 endeavor or who who are the people who are surveilling um catholics at mass you know it's it's it's those are the
00:37:14.860 folks who are operating in the 1984 environment and and project 2025 is just calling it out
00:37:20.720 paul we're going to go in a moment to a live feed uh discussing the failures with the secret service operation
00:37:29.340 to defend president trump before we do that there's a question i think of absolute vital importance that
00:37:35.200 i have to put to you watching as closely as i did as i'm sure you did as well trump's first
00:37:41.140 administration that the problem of the resistance within the bureaucracy within the system to him
00:37:46.220 that went all the way up resistance that went all the way up to quite overtly all the way up to the
00:37:50.380 cabinet what you did i think um with this project 2025 was really i think the most concerted effort
00:37:57.400 probably the only effort i've seen especially with regards to what you're talking about before on
00:38:02.220 on schedule f to come in this time and not have that that those errors there's that crisis that
00:38:09.420 of hitting against the bureaucracy next time around um if it weren't for this document for 900 pages
00:38:16.420 of research and suggestions i am not aware of any similar work that has been done here so that when it
00:38:24.220 comes around to the second administration there won't just be a repeat of this like last time i mean
00:38:29.760 as far as i'm aware that's the case there's no other substantial work on how to real schedule f
00:38:35.700 for the for an incoming trump administration beyond the work that that you guys have done that you know
00:38:42.380 with all the ngos and all the participants and all the think tanks allies together work on this i i'm not
00:38:47.760 aware of any other work that is being done uh on this to help uh give suggestions to to the next trump
00:38:54.840 administration well here there's a causal link relationship between what you're going to go to
00:39:01.160 that how did the president former president umbes get assassinated and and then back up to well we have
00:39:07.680 a weaponized department of justice and we have very little political control that's really you know
00:39:13.620 we correct these efforts we don't get butler pennsylvania that you can't divorce one from the other
00:39:19.980 now there is a work it's agenda 47 that's the product that's the president's campaign and that's where
00:39:26.280 people really should turn but project 2025 was four part and the initial you know proposals and policy
00:39:33.160 we put forward two years ago were to kind of guide any conservative coming aboard throwing his or her hat
00:39:39.060 in the ring this is what conservatives want to see but to be clear it only changes when people get
00:39:44.120 involved and that's the other elements of project 2025 it's a recruiting effort it's a training effort
00:39:49.560 and it's really an encouragement of of setting the map because you know it's from god's you know from
00:39:56.340 the president's lips to god's ears that change is going to happen it really happens below him or her
00:40:02.260 and and that's the importance of recognizing that personnel is really the cornerstone
00:40:07.500 of of of the change we need to make and the left has done this you know we're just iterating on what
00:40:13.000 the left does we're reverse engineering i'm kind of your uh community plan you know your community
00:40:18.240 organizer in chief if you will but um we we are one-tenth the complement of what the left does
00:40:23.860 and um it's important people keep you know keep heart and and drive like is as uh steve says is is the
00:40:31.580 power of this audience is going to make the change and free bannon by the way i didn't want to go off
00:40:36.740 without we we need to we have our most powerful um you know voice on on on our side of the movement
00:40:43.700 one of the most powerful thrown in the break here so if you need a daily reminder we should have a
00:40:48.280 countdown clock or something you know tie yellow ribbon around the trees when i grew up the the iran
00:40:53.940 hostages but he is he's a hostage for freedom right now and and we have to realize what we're against
00:40:59.580 i think there were 98 days to go um so definitely on that point for folks listening active on social
00:41:07.180 media even as we're going out on air hashtag free steve um you know just to synthesize what you were
00:41:13.860 saying there on regards to this schedule um you didn't use the words but you came close to the
00:41:18.600 schedule left personnel is is policy right um okay uh paul damns thanks for coming on the show now
00:41:25.800 we're going to just it was a perfect segue of what you're saying about the lapses now um i'm defending
00:41:31.200 the president we're going to go uh hand over to this live feed just before we do that paul where do
00:41:36.080 people go quickly and to keep up with um your contributions to the debate where can where can
00:41:42.400 they get the pod project 2025 tone sure i'm new to social media but um join me i'm at uh real at
00:41:51.360 paul dans on truth and paul dans usa on x kind of uh walk the walk now i'm learning to talk the talk
00:41:58.760 if you will but um you know join me there and uh also check out project 2025.org uh for for everything
00:42:08.760 the truth if you want the truth about project 2025 go to project 2025 truth.com and that will direct
00:42:16.460 you to dispelling a lot of the misinformation disinformation of the left and you should push
00:42:20.920 that out push back against some of your neighbors and and the groups like you know just completely
00:42:26.120 fallacious stuff we don't even mention social security so when they start saying trump's project
00:42:31.960 2025 wants to take away our social security neither of those things are true it's not trump's and we
00:42:36.980 don't even talk about social security it's just one big bald-faced lie um i might just quickly add
00:42:43.540 before we cut to this live feed that jd vance has a lot of uh has a lot of strong following on this
00:42:50.440 show uh amongst the war room posse i might just add now and that he has written the forward right
00:42:56.500 um to project 2025 again another piece of of misinformation this is all in real time he wrote
00:43:05.660 a forward to a forthcoming book by uh the president of heritage foundation kevin roberts project 2025
00:43:12.620 um is you know a forward is actually by dr roberts in that book but again you know we've had supporters
00:43:19.260 from all over the the bottom line is the left doesn't actually want you to read the book they
00:43:23.540 just want to make things up it's a great conceit and a really diminishment of their own side to to say
00:43:29.520 things that we support or not but the bottom line is it's all about president trump's um in this case
00:43:36.020 his agenda 47 so these are offerings that all think tanks do on the left and the right this is
00:43:42.660 kind of what think tanks do so the fact that they're gaslighting about it is really extraordinary but
00:43:47.940 remember it's a deflection from all their failed policies and their dictatorial ambitions to come
00:43:53.800 if you know if you liked your doctor you can keep it the the new future we should be talking about is if
00:43:59.680 you like your house you can keep it if you like your car you can keep it because that's where this is
00:44:04.440 going you know like celebrate your last cheeseburgers because if kamala has their way we're all going to
00:44:10.280 be eating bugs we're definitely going to come back to the democrats gaslighting later on in the show
00:44:17.080 as we dig down on tony blinken's call for election integrity in venezuela uh paul dan thanks very much
00:44:24.580 for coming on the show we'll catch up again with you pleasure thank you god bless thank you god bless
00:44:29.760 okay we're gonna hand over now to this uh live feed and we'll be back here in studio a little later
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00:45:56.280 was stuck or siloed in that state and local channel i will tell you though that there were
00:46:02.040 our tactical elements did have not only did they have embeds from butler county esu with them but they
00:46:10.000 also had uh radios on the tactical net um it it is troubling to me that we did not get that
00:46:17.580 information as quickly as we should have uh we didn't know that there was this incident going on
00:46:23.740 and the only thing we had was that locals were working an issue at the three o'clock which would
00:46:29.300 have been the former president's right hand side which is where the shot came nothing about man on the
00:46:34.620 roof nothing about man with a gun none of that information ever made it over our net so that
00:46:40.420 will change yes sir we are working right now to figure out the interoperability and also make sure
00:46:45.620 that we do have access to those channels whether through the counterpart system or some other means
00:46:51.240 very good ranking member paul i recognize for your questions director i'm encouraged by your
00:46:57.720 attitude what you brought here today what you've talked about as far as immediate changes that you've
00:47:01.980 made and i hope you'll follow through with that i'm encouraged by the fact that you acknowledge
00:47:06.620 that it's indefensible that the roof was unattended would you say the roof being unattended uh breaches
00:47:12.780 standard protocol for setting up a security perimeter what i would say senator is that that roof should
00:47:19.060 have had better coverage and we will get to the bottom of if there were any policy violations
00:47:25.180 i would think indefensible would go along with breaching protocol and i can't imagine how
00:47:30.720 indefensible would not be breaching protocol what i would caution though is that i sense you know and
00:47:39.020 you're the secret service and these people are your friends and they are heroic people who do good
00:47:43.360 things that we can't let our friendships blind us from responsibility so someone's in charge of the
00:47:50.380 security at the zone would would the secret service be in charge of the entire operation and they work
00:47:56.220 with law enforcement but they're in charge the person in charge of the entire operation is the
00:48:01.620 secret service not the local police you're correct sir this is a failure of the secret service so that's
00:48:07.560 what i mean and look i don't wish anybody harm i i appreciate the bravery of the capitol hill police i was at
00:48:12.740 the shooting at the ball field i've i've heard a hundred shots coming my way fortunately none came to me
00:48:19.000 but i appreciate the bravery of all the people who protect us but there's also the idea that there are
00:48:24.640 certain mistakes that don't make you a bad person but they're just inexcusable that you if you made that
00:48:29.700 mistake so for example let's say you determine well local police should have been on there and they told us and
00:48:35.000 local police says no they didn't tell us to do it and it's a he said she said still ultimately the agent in
00:48:41.000 charge should be walking the grounds and say there's a roof a hundred yards away from the stadium with a clear
00:48:46.640 site someone's got to be on the roof local police i told you to get on the roof get on the roof or you
00:48:52.100 put the secret service so ultimately the buck doesn't pass along to somebody whoever's in charge
00:48:56.640 is in charge but really i think it would be helpful to all of us i know the process has to be meted out
00:49:02.080 but there needs to also be a process for protecting the next trump rally the the fact that whoever was in
00:49:08.980 charge in butler next week is not in charge of a rally in las vegas and so i think you really should
00:49:15.320 say that you should simply say that the leadership from that event is going through a process but
00:49:20.740 until that process they won't be in charge of the democrat national convention that would reassure a
00:49:24.860 lot of people that they won't be in charge of security until it's determined can you tell us
00:49:29.800 something to that accord yes sir so i can tell you that uh the team planning the democratic national
00:49:36.100 convention that is a national special security event that team has been on the ground that's from dc
00:49:41.120 uh with support from our chicago field office but i just want to reiterate that that our our pittsburgh
00:49:47.440 field office staff they are wearing this harder than anybody right now in the secret service
00:49:53.900 they feel completely demoralized and what i'm trying to do is also let them know that listen
00:50:03.340 they need to be focused on the mission at hand i also have to walk a tightrope here and make sure
00:50:10.080 that i am not tainting any future from you know discipline action i understand and i have great
00:50:17.540 respect for all the officers but ultimately someone had to be in charge and someone made a terrible error
00:50:22.920 and it's an error of judgment the big error is the roof but another big error is we have 90 minutes of
00:50:28.160 a suspicious person now uh senator durbin mentioned the rangefinder none of these are enough to to shoot a
00:50:35.200 suspicious person but they certainly you would think would be enough to stop the proceedings that's
00:50:40.380 where i think you get to the second major management or judgment error of this now trump's done probably
00:50:46.640 a hundred rallies like this how often at one of his rallies are there 90 minutes of looking at one person
00:50:54.540 and at least a half a dozen pictures of that person how often does that happen and is it against
00:51:01.320 protocol to a letter proceeding go on when you've got a suspicious person 90 minutes worth of people
00:51:06.520 talking about this person and we don't stop the proceeding does that defy protocol so so senator so
00:51:13.160 while there's 90 minutes in total from when he's first identified by local law enforcement we have about
00:51:19.640 a 30 minute window but in no time is there anything ever communicated about weapon or or harm and i think
00:51:27.320 that's where the weapon you shoot people with a weapon sure without a weapon we're talking about people you
00:51:33.400 stop and say he had a backpack which was probably big enough to have the r15 in it in all likelihood the
00:51:40.600 backpack has that has the weapon in it so a guy with a big backpack would never get through the perimeter so
00:51:45.480 once again a big mistake was not having the perimeter wide enough to prevent people from shooting outside the
00:51:50.600 perimeter but the thing is he would have never gotten through the perimeter right his backpack would have been
00:51:55.480 checked but people with big backpacks are very suspicious and i would think he's been seen six
00:52:00.120 times but you got 20 or 30 minutes of knowing about it but the thing is there's all kinds of chatter
00:52:05.800 going on about this and you would think the chatter going on with the local police is on a police radio
00:52:11.800 and a policeman with that radio is standing in the control tent so you get that communication so
00:52:17.160 there's a huge and massive breakdown but really my question is how often has this happened at other
00:52:22.840 rallies where there's a half a dozen pictures and 90 minutes of people talking about a suspicious
00:52:27.160 person i just can't imagine that it's real common so senator at at rallies there there are people that
00:52:33.160 come to the attention of law enforcement for a variety of reasons uh and uh you know if they come to our
00:52:39.880 attention for some other activity that might you know put it a little bit uh hey we probably need to go
00:52:48.200 check that individual out this happens and that's why we we attempt to locate them that's why it's
00:52:53.960 important for us to try to find them and it's important to have the information and so local law
00:52:59.000 enforcement did their very level best to try to locate them they did provide us the photos 30 minutes prior
00:53:05.400 it just he evaded any detection by law enforcement but once again it's the overall person in charge it's
00:53:11.400 a terrible breakdown it's a terrible management decision not to have stopped it there was a chance to stop the
00:53:16.360 proceeding and the question is not whether there's enough information to take down an individual
00:53:22.360 it's a much lower standard to say hey we're going to wait until we get this individual
00:53:27.080 the roof and the 90 minutes of it both i think are failure of your protocol and i think when that's
00:53:32.520 determined the person who made these decisions can't be in a position of authority again
00:53:38.200 senator klobuchar thank you very much thank you to all of you for holding this hearing
00:53:42.760 uh i appreciated actor director roe when we had the classified briefing and also today
00:53:49.240 there was taking responsibility um for the agency and your own personal
00:53:54.200 emotion and reaction to your visit and what had gone wrong okay for the people
00:53:58.360 come back um i don't think we need to hear senator klobuchar and her analysis senator
00:54:04.440 i know senator rand paul there that we heard for the majority of that segment you can understand
00:54:09.240 somewhat his frustration um but as far as i'm you know i heard enough i think the guys in denver
00:54:16.760 will be listening to this whitewash in real time as it goes out if there's anything breaking we'll cut
00:54:22.600 back to it um we'll be coming up to the break now in in just uh one minute's time um and then after the
00:54:30.920 break uh towards the beginning of um the next hour we'll have sam faddis who's going to give us a
00:54:39.080 a response to some of what we heard uh just now my first reaction listening to this stuff go out live
00:54:45.640 um firstly there's no sense of anger on behalf of the secret service guy who was talking secondly he
00:54:52.520 tried to personalize it and talk about the fact how gutted the guys are uh in pittsburgh down on the
00:54:58.360 ground there this wasn't you know my instinct is you want to summarize my instinct about when i
00:55:04.680 heard the words protocol i reached my gun this isn't about protocol or protocol errors the system
00:55:11.480 steve bannon and alex jones said this was going to happen months before it happened right it's not
00:55:17.080 about protocol errors or management um this there's more going on behind this and i say it's not going
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