Bannon's War Room - February 25, 2025


Episode 4295: Weakness Begins In Spending Fight Over Budget


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00:00:00.000 In the arbitration proceeding, you don't bring both parties into the meeting for that first table set because they're at odds, right?
00:00:08.780 That wouldn't be productive.
00:00:09.720 So you begin by meeting individually with the two parties.
00:00:13.080 That's what President Trump is doing right now.
00:00:14.620 It's very logical if you stop and think about it.
00:00:16.660 He's met with the Russian side, with Putin's side, through his representatives there, and he's spoken to Zelensky.
00:00:23.960 He's speaking to both parties to set the table, so to speak, for what that negotiation is going to be.
00:00:29.180 This is very productive.
00:00:30.740 He is the only person on the planet who has the ability to make that happen.
00:00:35.960 You have to give the president room to work.
00:00:38.860 His language and his actions and his decisions shouldn't be second-guessed step by step.
00:00:43.920 You have to allow this process to play out.
00:00:45.920 I think he's been very clear about what the objective here is, and when he speaks to those issues, what he's talking about is we want to get Ukraine back to a posture of peace.
00:00:55.460 There's an idea on the table for them to actually be in partnership with the U.S. with regard to production of the precious minerals that are needed.
00:01:04.080 And also, we want to get back to free and fair elections.
00:01:07.480 There, just as we fight for here and we fight for around the world, I think those things are all consistent, and I think President Trump is moving the ball forward in a way that all of us should have thought.
00:01:16.160 Back to third row.
00:01:17.920 Yes, sir.
00:01:19.800 How do you respond to critics like Tom Massey who argued that this budget resolution will make the deficit worse, not better?
00:01:26.680 And are you committed to having a vote today, or is that potentially going to get delayed?
00:01:30.420 Yeah, so the budget resolution itself doesn't do any of that.
00:01:34.700 The objective in our commitment has always been deficit neutrality.
00:01:37.820 That's the goal here.
00:01:38.840 If we can reduce the deficit, even better.
00:01:41.100 But here's another thing everybody needs to consider.
00:01:43.360 Not only are we working to find savings for the American taxpayer, to find a better, more efficient, more effective use of their dollars, which we are morally obligated to do.
00:01:52.360 We also have a moral obligation to bend the curve on the debt.
00:01:56.300 All of your children, all of our children and grandchildren, are going to be saddled with the debt that we are spending right now.
00:02:01.620 It's $36 trillion federal debt.
00:02:03.820 The deficits have ballooned.
00:02:05.100 We have to change that trajectory.
00:02:07.220 Now, you don't turn an aircraft carrier on a dime.
00:02:10.160 It takes miles of open ocean to turn an aircraft carrier because it's such a large vessel.
00:02:14.500 I think the metaphor is obvious here.
00:02:16.420 We can't do it all at once.
00:02:17.940 But we're going to take a big bite out of that.
00:02:20.480 We're going to make a big course correction in this process, and that's why the Republicans in the House,
00:02:26.000 and the Senate are so excited about this mission and what we can accomplish with it.
00:02:29.700 So stay tuned on the details.
00:02:32.420 We are going to do this methodically.
00:02:34.840 We're going to do it in a very responsible manner, and we're going to achieve these goals.
00:02:37.700 And we'll be working with all the members throughout the day to get to that.
00:02:40.740 There may be a vote tonight.
00:02:41.900 There may not be.
00:02:42.840 Stay tuned.
00:02:43.420 That's why you get paid.
00:02:44.320 Hang around here.
00:02:44.860 You'll have lots to report on.
00:02:45.780 And what we're working on is to get to – we're working on that.
00:02:52.320 On a probe, so I'll leave you with that.
00:02:54.480 Our House Republican appropriators have been working very hard and in good faith to negotiate with our Democrat counterparts.
00:03:01.440 The necessary step, as you know, for a probe is to get to a top-line agreement.
00:03:06.040 Chairman Tom Cole addressed the House Republicans this morning on the latest developments about how those – we may be getting close to a number on that.
00:03:13.080 The problem is the Democrats have added something new and different that's never been part of this before.
00:03:18.420 They are trying to add to the appropriations bill a demand that they want us to somehow limit the ability of the executive branch to do its job.
00:03:26.980 They want to limit, tie the hands of the president on what he is able to do with the expenditures in the executive branch.
00:03:34.380 That's never been done before.
00:03:35.400 House Republicans, as egregious as the actions were of the previous president, Joe Biden, as unconstitutional and outrageous as they were, we never proposed using the appropriations process to tie the president's hands.
00:03:47.700 It would be, I think, a gross separation of powers, a violation, and a terrible precedent for Congress to engage in.
00:03:54.260 So that's a nonstarter for us, and the Democrats know that.
00:03:56.620 And so it looks like they're in a posture right now that they're making individual appropriations bills almost impossible.
00:04:03.740 We'll find out soon.
00:04:04.680 Stay tuned.
00:04:05.240 There's more discussion today to be had.
00:04:06.940 But we are nearing, obviously, the March 14th deadline.
00:04:10.220 And I'm really hopeful that they'll back off of those outrageous demands because it's unprecedented and I think probably unconstitutional.
00:04:16.900 And it's not anything we'll be a part of.
00:04:18.480 Thank you.
00:04:18.860 Thank you.
00:04:19.160 Would you support a CR?
00:04:20.900 Given where you are, would you support a CR right now?
00:04:23.460 Let me have it.
00:04:27.480 I mean, right there you see it.
00:04:30.980 Get ready for a government shutdown.
00:04:32.720 A President Trump's government being shut down.
00:04:34.600 Just get ready for it.
00:04:36.900 What they're saying there is that I'm sure on the appropriation side, what the Democrats are trying to do is this whole thing.
00:04:42.680 On the unitary theory of the executive, another ideas have consequences.
00:04:49.160 There's this stronger than a belief.
00:04:55.820 I mean, it's one of the things that the Project 2025, CRA, Russ Vogt over at OMB, many lawyers about the appropriations process,
00:05:05.720 that the appropriations is a ceiling and that either through impoundment or rescissions,
00:05:12.800 the executive branch has ability to hold back the funds or reprogram.
00:05:19.160 And I'm sure that in code, that's what he's talking about.
00:05:23.340 They want to have, the Democrats want to have wording in there that that's not going to happen and you have the constitutional fight.
00:05:31.140 Now, bottom line, though, that is a bigger and tougher fight.
00:05:34.500 But he just told you right there, you ain't getting any Democrat votes on this CR.
00:05:39.580 So you tie in with Dusty Johnson saying that there are 15 or 20, what we're hearing, maybe more folks right now saying, hey, you know, there's not we don't see the cuts and we're not going to just kick the can down the road on the 14th.
00:05:56.180 That's the first time I've heard.
00:05:58.720 I might be wrong, but we follow this pretty close.
00:06:00.900 It's the first time I've heard Johnson come across his lips the 14th of March.
00:06:04.920 Everything's been on this reconciliation, which to me is a very important.
00:06:08.880 But it's a side, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a sidebar.
00:06:14.880 You got to take care of this year of funding the government.
00:06:18.160 And I also want to just say to Johnson is brother, when I see these reconciliations and I see these sidebars and you're talking two and three trillion dollars of savings and all this, this is the moral equivalent of conservative wins.
00:06:31.160 Remember McCarthy, that's the reason he doesn't have the job and you got it.
00:06:35.960 It's 10 year budgeting and the people come back and say, well, Steve, the law says we have the 10 year budget.
00:06:40.180 I got that.
00:06:41.420 I understand that.
00:06:42.600 But we're bankrupt.
00:06:45.040 Why are we bankrupt?
00:06:46.800 We're not actually going concerned because our expenditures are two trillion dollars every 12 months greater than our revenue.
00:06:58.360 And president Trump's doing, you know, he's trying, he's trying to set up the external revenue service, the tariffs, they kick in with Mexico and with Canada on four March.
00:07:07.660 He reiterated that yesterday.
00:07:11.360 That's all going to take a while to kick in.
00:07:15.200 And you've got something in front of us and somebody better, somebody better go up to the white house today and tell the president of these United States, Hey, just put this on your calendar, sir.
00:07:25.400 At midnight on the 14th, we don't have enough Republican votes because we don't have a plan and we don't have individual appropriations bills.
00:07:37.360 And we kind of wasted these 90 days that we gave ourselves and promised you back in December that we would have a budget and have it done.
00:07:46.180 Remember, we had this fight before Christmas.
00:07:52.000 And here's what it comes down to.
00:07:53.560 When they talk about those 10 years budget and two trillion, that's all in the out years.
00:07:57.720 The only thing that matters is now.
00:08:02.820 Tell me what we're going to do between now and September 30th.
00:08:10.240 And then tell me what we're going to do from October 1st of this year to September 30th of next.
00:08:16.700 That's all I want to talk about.
00:08:18.140 I'm not interested in anything else right now.
00:08:20.560 I'm not interested in all your theoretical exercises of what you're going to do to Medicaid in the out years.
00:08:26.860 I want to know what you're doing now, and I want to know how this six and a half or seven trillion dollars becomes less because every month we're running up record deficit numbers.
00:08:39.140 I think we're almost to a trillion dollars right now.
00:08:42.180 We're 900 billion.
00:08:43.640 And in the first quarter, it was a record.
00:08:45.560 Oh, and by the way, we had a record trade deficit also, and they blamed that on that.
00:08:53.800 They lied and said, oh, that's everybody front running before the tariffs.
00:08:57.080 It's not.
00:08:57.920 It's not.
00:08:59.380 We have a record trade deficit.
00:09:01.920 We have a record financial deficit.
00:09:05.820 There's no plan at all about what to do here.
00:09:10.040 And we're just hurtling down, and you're going to get this happy talk and run around.
00:09:13.300 They're going this meeting and that meeting and this meeting.
00:09:14.860 And, hey, it ain't Steve Bannon anymore.
00:09:17.140 You got MTG.
00:09:18.140 I got three data points of folks in the House.
00:09:25.300 I got MTG in the fire breather right.
00:09:28.520 I've got Warren Davidson kind of in the traditional classic, you know, Republican, limited government, conservative on financial matters.
00:09:39.720 And I've got, what, Dusty Johnson, who's the head of the mainstream caucus, who's probably as moderate as you can get.
00:09:47.860 And all three of them today are putting up things on Twitter saying, hey, you know, MTG saying, beware the Ides of March.
00:09:58.640 I don't see this thing happening.
00:09:59.980 I don't know what's going on.
00:10:01.260 14 March is everything.
00:10:02.400 Warren Davidson saying, hey, I'm going in and out of meetings.
00:10:04.600 I want somebody to talk about, I'm not interested in talking about a reconciliation now.
00:10:08.660 I'm not talking about having a vote on a budget resolution.
00:10:11.140 I want to know what the hell you're going to do to finance the government, President Trump's government, between now, March 14th, and the end of the year.
00:10:19.140 Full stop.
00:10:20.080 And Dusty Johnson puts out the implication that we're going to need Democrat votes to secure this.
00:10:27.020 And then you got Johnson sitting right there who says, well, they have a major deal.
00:10:30.740 They want to strap the thing.
00:10:32.260 Hey, here's what they want to do.
00:10:33.420 They want to humiliate Trump.
00:10:34.660 That's what they want to do.
00:10:35.580 The discussion about impoundment and rescission and all those that they may put in this bill, if you agreed to all that, they're still going to vote no, I think.
00:10:50.120 Because now they're going to say, you guys are big talkers.
00:10:52.480 You got Elon Musk running around.
00:10:53.720 You got this guy running around.
00:10:57.160 It's no, unless you do one thing.
00:10:59.280 And that's a full year CR, which you don't have.
00:11:05.400 You don't have the votes.
00:11:06.540 Candace Taylor, you want to run for Congress.
00:11:09.660 What would your vote be on the 14th of March?
00:11:12.300 Would you be up for the rest of the year CR that had Biden's numbers, a $2 trillion deficit, and that one penny cut out from Doge, ma'am?
00:11:24.100 No.
00:11:24.660 And this is what we're dealing with.
00:11:26.680 The people are sick of the gas prices.
00:11:30.100 They're sick of the egg prices.
00:11:31.460 They're sick of the inflation.
00:11:33.020 They know they're making the same amount of money, but their house sales are through the roof.
00:11:37.000 You can't buy a home.
00:11:38.120 You can't build a home.
00:11:39.400 They're through the roof.
00:11:40.180 It's $125 a square foot in South Georgia to build a home.
00:11:44.460 That's astronomical.
00:11:45.820 And so we feel the inflation.
00:11:48.280 We feel the spending.
00:11:49.400 And so we need common sense people in there to advocate because these people who have been there for so long are so far removed, and they're throwing away around all these fancy words and do this and do that and play in games.
00:12:01.860 But in reality, if we do not cut right now, like you're saying, Steve, right now is what matters.
00:12:09.200 That's what impacts for the next 10 years, and the people are fully cognizant of that.
00:12:14.340 We understand that language.
00:12:15.720 Candace, you're not running—today you announced you're not going to run for governor.
00:12:22.060 I know there's a bunch of folks that are probably very happy about that, but you're going to run in a primary in the first, in Georgia 1.
00:12:30.040 One more time before you bounce, where do people go and find out about your crusade to do this, ma'am?
00:12:37.900 So Candace Taylor on all social media apps, I want to say really quick, I want to give a shout-out to Lieutenant Burt Jones.
00:12:42.820 I called him this morning. He was very kind and gracious.
00:12:46.160 I do have a ton of people in Georgia who wanted me to run for governor as a grassroots candidate, but the Lord said different, and Lieutenant Burt Jones was glad.
00:12:54.360 He hasn't announced his run yet, but I think that's on the way, and Burt's a great guy, and I think he'll do a good job for the people.
00:13:00.420 I also reached out to Congressman Carter, who is holding the seat currently, as courtesy to him, and let him know that I would be running.
00:13:07.120 I plan to honor him. I think we need to honor more people in our society.
00:13:12.360 And so I did that this morning, and I am announcing I'm running for First District.
00:13:16.940 So I would love your support.
00:13:21.260 Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate you coming on here to kick it all off.
00:13:25.600 Candace Taylor, a grassroots fire breather.
00:13:33.640 Tough fight, tough primary, tough general, tough job.
00:13:37.760 Didn't say the job was easy.
00:13:38.820 Thank you.
00:13:42.360 Going to have a firestorm between now and the 14th of March, trust me.
00:13:47.980 Because now it's down to decision-making.
00:13:52.820 I would have used a barnyard phrase, but it's a family show in the morning.
00:13:59.440 In the afternoon, too.
00:14:01.760 Or what would happen, my mother would wash my mouth out with soap, which she frequently did.
00:14:06.700 God bless her.
00:14:11.180 We're going to need you at the ramparts.
00:14:12.780 Not today.
00:14:15.120 You're just collecting information.
00:14:17.160 You're thinking this one through.
00:14:19.340 The common sense revolution.
00:14:25.360 You are the salvation of this republic.
00:14:27.600 You had President Trump's back from the beginning, and particularly from the darkest days in 21.
00:14:34.480 And now we're in the middle of it.
00:14:37.980 The entire world is watching the moves you make.
00:14:43.440 We're going to try to get you as much information as possible so that your agency fully comes through on your moves.
00:14:56.020 Next in the war room.
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00:16:42.420 On top of all this, the conference board, which is the, you know, kind of a CEO-run thing, up on zero heads right now.
00:16:54.580 Conference board consumer confidence collapses as inflation fears soar.
00:17:00.000 The – and this is why this work has to be done.
00:17:04.000 And it has to be done because the bond market and the equity market is going to get a vote here.
00:17:10.840 In this inflation, the inflation is coming from one central thing.
00:17:17.200 The inflation is coming from the massive federal spending.
00:17:20.860 We're printing too much money.
00:17:21.880 Massive federal – we're still having a Keynesian – named after John Maynard Keynes.
00:17:26.720 We're still having a massive Keynesian stimulus because we're spending so much money, particularly money over and above what we're taking in.
00:17:40.280 The physics of this are not hard.
00:17:43.500 If we can put the – if we can put the – let's put the Axios part piece up.
00:17:49.920 What I really like about the Axios piece in this, we need to get – okay, we need to get you as up to speed as possible what's going on.
00:17:56.720 What I really love about this Axios piece of Mike Allen and Jim Vanderhae, it kind of breaks it all down and separates not just the signal from the noise.
00:18:07.340 It's like in any political warfare.
00:18:09.320 There's tons of smoke and wilderness and mirrors and misinformation.
00:18:15.180 You have to keep completely objective about this.
00:18:18.680 And this is why I want to make sure we bifurcate for this audience what Doge is doing and then what is about spending.
00:18:30.080 Doge right now is going through and doing these audits or doing these kind of – they're like special forces going in there and getting this information.
00:18:36.560 They are coming up with what they say is misallocation, inefficiency, waste, fraud, and abuse.
00:18:43.920 Some of the numbers they're talking about are huge, are massive.
00:18:48.100 What they've shown to date is I think $55 billion, which they validated with the first month.
00:18:54.880 Now, there are analysis out by the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, and Politico that say that's not $55 billion.
00:19:02.380 That's more in the line of $15 to $20 billion.
00:19:05.900 But let's go with their number to 55 for now.
00:19:09.580 They're also out there, and I believe – and this was, I think, reaffirmed in Zero Hedge.
00:19:14.400 They have basically terminated 90,000 or let's say 100,000 government employees.
00:19:24.900 Now, remember, that employee base started at about $3 million.
00:19:28.960 Some people say $2.4 million.
00:19:31.800 Let's even take the lower number of that.
00:19:34.420 So that's not a small number, and they're doing it more.
00:19:38.200 In fact, they doubled down again last night and say if you haven't answered this email, you're going to be terminated.
00:19:45.980 The email is the five things you did last week.
00:19:47.740 Of course, a couple of departments like Cash Patel at the FBI, Tulsi Gabbard at DNI, Ratcliffe were with the CIA.
00:19:56.220 I think Pete Hegseth at the Pentagon and Marco Rubio at State said we're not going to be doing that.
00:20:04.240 I think Bobby Kennedy agreed, but the rest of them said we're not going to – a lot of them said we're not going to do that.
00:20:08.780 We're going to do that ourselves.
00:20:13.280 Doge is hurtling through, and there are clearly inefficiencies and misallocations.
00:20:19.340 Some of it may be just computer coding.
00:20:20.980 That's fine.
00:20:21.620 But then that ought to get up to speed too.
00:20:23.180 This ought to be tightly run.
00:20:25.460 I want to go back to the 2.6 tree, and this is what MTG brought up in her first subcommittee meeting.
00:20:31.620 She's going to have a meeting again tomorrow.
00:20:33.160 We're going to cover that live because I think she's going to try to – MTG is – she's going to try to merge both together and make the point that why are we not including this in the CR that we're going to do on the 14th, which we've advocated from the beginning back in December when I said that the Doge effort through OMB has to be merged into the appropriation process immediately.
00:20:55.420 But Doge is still looking for waste, fraud, and abuse inefficiencies where they hit a target that's been identified by the Eli Cranes and the Matt Gaetzes like USAID.
00:21:08.540 They've done a great job.
00:21:09.720 That's a full takedown, right?
00:21:12.200 Now, that should be at least $40 or $50 billion, I think, annually.
00:21:15.220 And not just that.
00:21:18.180 It keeps them out of all the nefarious activities.
00:21:20.560 Now, the $2.6 trillion has come up through other government reports that there's been $2.6 trillion in – I think there's Medicare and Social Security payments to either people who didn't deserve it or people who didn't exist or whatever.
00:21:36.740 Now, that's taken place over a long time, but it's still a significant amount of money.
00:21:40.680 It's not that you're going to save it.
00:21:41.980 It's already been spent.
00:21:43.140 However, you've got to find out in this today if that still exists.
00:21:48.120 You've got to plug the leakage.
00:21:51.740 But that still doesn't get down to the basics, and this is why we ran it and ran it and ran it for so long that Elon has to cross the Potomac and go to the Pentagon.
00:22:00.500 But the Axios – and I would advise everybody to keep – print the Axios out or put it on your phone where you can get to it.
00:22:10.580 It's a very good summary, succinct summary of the physics of what we're dealing with.
00:22:19.000 And it particularly shows the big chunks of how it's broken out on the spending itself.
00:22:24.920 It works its way up to the $6.5 to $7 trillion of spending.
00:22:28.420 Where the inflation is coming from is the – we're still having a Keynesian stimulus, and now we have this added problem that the deficits are so big at $2 trillion.
00:22:45.380 It's – how do you finance that?
00:22:47.000 And that gets added to the debt.
00:22:48.540 We keep saying $36 trillion.
00:22:50.060 The Congressional Budget Office – the Congressional Budget Office – and I'm not saying they're perfect.
00:22:56.640 They're not perfect.
00:22:57.360 I'm just saying directionally.
00:22:59.200 And on directionally, they are perfect.
00:23:03.140 Or they're pretty close.
00:23:05.620 And they're saying your growth – the assumptions that they're taking this model, your growth is about 1.8%.
00:23:12.460 This is reality.
00:23:15.320 That's why what President Trump is trying to do is a supply-side tax cut.
00:23:19.720 As Scott Besson says, probably the last shot we have to do that.
00:23:22.200 And Scott and these guys are talking about 2%, 2.5% growth.
00:23:28.980 Nirvana would be 3%.
00:23:31.000 Elon in the Oval Office, they said 5%.
00:23:35.760 I think Andreessen and these guys are talking 5%.
00:23:39.540 If you're talking 5% growth, I would assume that's something to deal with artificial intelligence and cutting out a big swath of the labor force.
00:23:52.100 Massive increases to productivity and potentially growth.
00:23:58.160 But that in and of itself ain't that easy because that's going to – that's going to have tremendous societal implications.
00:24:07.680 You think these people now are hesitant about cutting spending or increased social programs like Medicaid, income security, which is – if you look at – if you look at the Axios, they break it down.
00:24:23.020 All the food stamp programs, all that's called income security, which is a big number.
00:24:28.080 I think $600 billion or $700 billion.
00:24:29.240 Bank in Asia today, one of the biggest banks in Asia, announced 4,000 administrative personnel with good-paying jobs gone because of artificial intelligence.
00:24:44.080 This is – this is going to – you're going to see this every day now, particularly as artificial intelligence is looked at as an efficiency and not an innovation, not driving innovation, but just driving efficiency.
00:24:55.960 That means cutting jobs.
00:24:59.240 So this is not going to be easy, but the first thing you have to do is get a handle on this.
00:25:04.320 And I think as of this current year and or next year, you've got to have – we've got to figure out how do we get back to the pre-pandemic levels?
00:25:13.660 The pre-pandemic levels, the budget was of $4.5 or $5 trillion.
00:25:19.480 And you have to look.
00:25:20.520 A lot of this is in Social Security, a lot of things that popped, some of these internal programs.
00:25:24.380 That's got to be reviewed.
00:25:25.340 Exactly what it – people just have to understand, what are the drivers here?
00:25:30.700 I'm not saying touch Social Security and Medicare, but you clearly have to know, just like we talked about all the time on Birch Gold.
00:25:38.200 We're not there to sell you or fish.
00:25:40.320 We're there to have the Birch Gold guys teach you to think through how you fish, pattern recognition, so you become smarter.
00:25:48.500 It's not the simple fact that gold's hitting all-time highs every couple of days.
00:25:52.100 It's why it's doing that and what is it going to do in the future based upon current trends and understandings.
00:26:00.480 That's the same here.
00:26:05.000 It's going to be painful.
00:26:06.320 I've said this.
00:26:06.980 There's no way – there's impossible that this process we're going to go through is not going to be painful.
00:26:12.100 The question is going to be who's going to get the pain, how is it going to be shared?
00:26:17.400 One thing that just is jumping off the page at you is that the additional tax cuts, the populist tax cuts for tips, for overtime, for the military, the veterans, the first responders – that's another one – and Social Security.
00:26:35.000 That adds up, folks, my very rough math, that adds up to another trillion dollars per year, that you take that off the revenue side.
00:26:43.760 If you did all those, and I strongly recommend that we do them.
00:26:48.680 Those four categories.
00:26:52.040 We didn't even throw bonuses in there.
00:26:53.600 It may be a little too complicated.
00:26:55.760 But tax on tips, tax on overtime, tax on the first responders, veterans, military, to cut the taxes there, cut the tax on Social Security.
00:27:04.020 Those four add up to about a trillion dollars.
00:27:06.700 So I've got a bigger problem in this financing.
00:27:10.320 Now, clearly, that is the supply side cut.
00:27:13.640 That could be very – that could potentially add a lot of stimulus to the economy.
00:27:20.580 But we still have this massive problem.
00:27:22.060 Inflation is not going to go away until you cut federal spending because you have these massive deficits.
00:27:26.340 You have these huge interest payments.
00:27:28.440 And on top of all that, you're increasing this debt.
00:27:32.240 But, you know, in our calculations, a trillion dollars about every hundred days that gets added to the face amount and has to be refinanced.
00:27:40.900 Scott Besson's out there today.
00:27:43.800 What did Besson say?
00:27:45.000 What have I been saying?
00:27:45.820 He's saying he's going to make treasuries more attractive.
00:27:48.920 He's going to do things to make treasuries more attractive.
00:27:53.120 Why is that?
00:27:54.080 He's got about $10 trillion of treasuries.
00:27:57.140 I think he has to sell between now and the end of the year.
00:27:59.300 You have to refinance approximately one-third of this every year.
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00:29:44.920 The crisis is here.
00:29:46.580 President Trump is trying – and when I say the change of the geoeconomic model, remember he is – and this is going to take longer to kick in.
00:30:01.860 But his idea of this is that – and this is this whole concept of external revenue service,
00:30:07.640 that the entire burden of this should not just be on the shoulders of corporations and citizens, internal revenue.
00:30:18.820 That part of this should come from the world as far as what he calls external revenues.
00:30:22.460 And that's why his tariffs are bigger than just tariffs.
00:30:24.940 He's not putting a tariff on an avocado coming from Mexico or an under-the-hood part coming from Canada down into Detroit.
00:30:37.640 It's deeper than that.
00:30:39.340 He sees the fact that this is a premium market.
00:30:43.160 People should be paying premium prices or bring your manufacturing and manufacture out of here, out of the United States, to drive jobs and wages.
00:30:53.160 And they've got all kind of information.
00:30:55.720 Peter Navarro is on CNBC.
00:30:58.700 We'll try to get those clips.
00:30:59.940 Maybe I'll play them tonight.
00:31:01.780 Peter Navarro is out making the case on this right now.
00:31:04.740 Those tariffs are coming.
00:31:07.640 Part of that is to drive additional external revenue, to try to close this deficit.
00:31:13.440 President Trump understands as a finance guy, as a deal guy, and he's an individual that uses leverage.
00:31:21.800 In real estate transactions, the correct amount of debt and the correct capital structure is what can turbocharge returns in real estate by using the asset side to borrow against, using as little equity as possible.
00:31:44.360 This is also not lost on Scott Besson.
00:31:49.200 Scott Besson keeps talking about using the asset side of our balance sheet to set things right.
00:31:56.860 You hear a lot of people talk.
00:31:58.380 A lot of people are finance.
00:31:59.160 I shouldn't say a lot of people.
00:32:00.000 Some people are talking to finance.
00:32:01.140 Well, it's not that bad because, I don't know, we have $100 trillion of assets in the country or more.
00:32:07.840 And you only got $36 trillion of debt, right?
00:32:12.940 You're not upside down.
00:32:15.480 The problem is when you look at the liquidity, you have a liquidity issue.
00:32:20.640 The revenues, you don't have revenues coming in to pay it, so therefore you got to borrow additionally.
00:32:24.340 And this gets back to modern monetary theory.
00:32:28.620 This is why we did the Birch Gold, and you can understand it.
00:32:31.160 If you go to birchgold.com slash Bannon now, get the sixth free installment.
00:32:36.800 I would recommend you read them all at your leisure.
00:32:39.580 Even if you don't understand it, just go through it, and just, you know, all of a sudden, you'll hear these terms, and they'll play over and over again, and this is how you build your mental map.
00:32:48.580 This is what we're trying to do here in this show.
00:32:50.000 This is why we don't chase most of the rabbits that are out there that other people do.
00:32:55.180 I'm not saying that's bad.
00:32:56.360 That's fine.
00:32:56.920 They do a great job of it.
00:32:59.660 The one I did want to get to today, and I've got Michael Benz on, I think, Wednesday in the evening show, and Terry Schilling is going to try to join us and some other folks.
00:33:09.020 This thing at the NSA about the chat rooms shows you some of the deep rot we have in the government.
00:33:16.940 This chat rooms that I guess have been verified show the depravity of people you have working in the highest, you know, NSA is one of the highest, you know, highest security clearances of anyone, of any people, any sets of people.
00:33:35.760 The CIA and the NSA in this chat room, which it looks like has been verified, is depravity.
00:33:46.020 That's something we're going to drill down on.
00:33:47.540 We normally don't chase a lot of stories like that, but you've got to because I think this shows the problem we've got in the deep state.
00:33:54.540 And one of the reasons it's going to be so hard to take it down.
00:33:56.760 And this is why President Trump, and this is historic, we're living in historic times.
00:34:06.500 We're, what, 33, 34 days into this?
00:34:09.040 Look what's been accomplished so far.
00:34:10.440 Just getting these on the table.
00:34:14.680 Just, if Elon Musk, if Doge was just all performative, which it's not, but let's say it was all performative.
00:34:21.840 It's worth it just to see the response of the administrative state and to let you know how hard this is going to be to take down.
00:34:31.540 Elon Musk is the wealthiest guy in the world and a genius when it comes to engineering.
00:34:36.880 He's got these Doge guys.
00:34:38.700 He's given blunt force trauma to the administrative state, but look at the pushback there.
00:34:43.740 And look at the pushback you're seeing on the networks that are opposed to President Trump and the color revolution folks that Natalie Winters is drilling down on to show you the resistance.
00:35:00.300 None of this is going to be easy, but it has to happen.
00:35:03.720 Number one, it has to happen to unlock the animal spirits of entrepreneurs in this country and also give us our liberty back.
00:35:11.580 Much less financial, also the financial part.
00:35:15.280 As I kept saying the entire time, that middle vertical on the financial is the existential threat.
00:35:22.740 Now, Johnson just came out.
00:35:23.920 We said there in the press conference we picked up, we're going to have a vote tonight or we're not.
00:35:28.700 When you say or not, I'm not feeling it.
00:35:31.300 What I'm hearing is that there are at least 15 or 20 Republicans that are not there on this budget resolution.
00:35:39.520 And this is on the sidebar, not the CR.
00:35:41.740 And I think now he's finally getting blowback on what we've said is you got to take care of that first.
00:35:47.560 And President Trump has to be totally informed, which I'm not sure he is.
00:35:51.120 Because I'm not so sure they've given him the details, particularly the three most brutal facts, unless you come up with something different and present to people a CR, like an omnibus CR, that, you know, you waved off on.
00:36:07.980 And before Christmas, because nobody was prepared to accept it, they wanted President Trump and the Congress that would control both houses to have a shot at this.
00:36:17.640 So now we're coming down to the last couple of weeks.
00:36:20.200 And guess what?
00:36:20.760 We squandered the shot or we shot a brick or an air ball or nobody wanted to address it.
00:36:27.940 Because the reality, unless it changes, is that you've got Biden's number, $2 trillion deficit baked in, and not one penny of what Elon's found on the $55 billion plus of his numbers in the Doge audits comes out.
00:36:44.740 In fact, you actually finance it for another six months, which is redonkulous.
00:36:56.220 Remember, you're not going to get any, none, zero Democratic assistance on any of this.
00:37:03.380 They're in shell shock right now.
00:37:05.020 Their numbers are falling through the floor.
00:37:06.480 Their numbers as a party are horrible.
00:37:07.900 They're getting chewed on every night on these cable channels that, that, that support them and back them up, that they're not fighting hard enough.
00:37:16.280 It's Republicans.
00:37:17.400 Democrats are coming to Republican town halls.
00:37:20.700 Those are Democrats in there.
00:37:23.120 You, I can tell the Democrats, they're all trashing President Trump.
00:37:26.800 These are not MAGA.
00:37:27.840 These are not independents.
00:37:29.520 These people are all sitting up trashing President Trump.
00:37:31.440 It's obviously, it's gun decked.
00:37:33.840 You're having Democrats sitting there that are freaked out about taking on the administrative state.
00:37:41.200 So think about it.
00:37:42.080 President Trump is doing a complete and total reformulation of the, of the system that governs the world.
00:37:51.060 And what he's doing is trying to make sure that our allies in World War II, the Russian people, are somehow not in the, in the sphere of control of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:38:04.260 Because what Biden left us with is what I warned people he was going to leave us with.
00:38:10.180 Beijing, Persia, Russia, and now Turkey, all kind of working in unison to control the Eurasian landmass.
00:38:21.060 And when that happens, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a tough road to slog.
00:38:26.340 We don't have to do that.
00:38:27.640 And President Trump understands that.
00:38:28.940 That's why he's working on this Russian rapprochement.
00:38:31.360 A subset of that is what's happening in Ukraine.
00:38:38.640 And you have this deal that Scott Besson and Secretary of State Rubio and others are working on, Steve Witkoff.
00:38:46.500 Just came out, just report, just came out from the World Bank.
00:38:50.780 Take it, take the analysis of what you want.
00:38:53.180 They're saying it's a half a trillion dollars, $525 billion to rebuild Ukraine.
00:39:01.020 Now, take that number, double it, trillion dollars.
00:39:03.520 That, that's what it's going to take, minimum.
00:39:06.940 And that money, maybe that money comes from their side of the cash flow of the, of the, of the minerals.
00:39:12.880 That's the way they're structuring the deal.
00:39:16.000 Let's see.
00:39:19.600 Unless that fits into an overall rapprochement with the Russians, I'm not so sure, independent, independent of that.
00:39:29.660 But I don't think we ought to have anything to do with it as part of, contextualize in that and what President Trump's trying to do.
00:39:39.460 At the same time, what he's doing here for the, for the Monroe Doctrine 2.0 from Greenland to, to Panama Canal.
00:39:45.540 From the Arctic to the Pacific, maybe throw in a, uh, Iron Dome, although God knows how we're going to pay for that right now.
00:39:58.780 Because we can't, uh, pay for the military that we, that they, they want.
00:40:02.800 Don't forget the military, the NDAA and the military is $900 billion.
00:40:07.560 They haven't allocated totally how that's going to be spent.
00:40:09.880 It's $900 billion.
00:40:10.840 That does not include, that does not include the, the, the, this two-part reconciliation that they're talking about.
00:40:18.480 That has $175 billion just for securing the border and deportations.
00:40:23.480 $175 billion.
00:40:24.760 Make sure you give that a nice warm embrace of what Biden, these guys, Mayorkas, did to this country over those four years.
00:40:34.020 In addition, I think there's $100 to $150 billion, um, additional money for defense.
00:40:41.960 That would be, in my simple mind, that would bring us to over a trillion dollars of defense spending.
00:40:46.900 That just can't happen.
00:40:48.120 If that, if we're going to talk, we're going to spend a trillion dollars in defense, particularly in the re, um, the reorganization of our strategy, the kind of President Trump hitting the reset.
00:41:01.100 We're not going to make it as a, as a, as a country.
00:41:03.460 We're just not.
00:41:05.780 Now Ferguson, Neil Ferguson has a stat that when interest payments are greater than your defense budget, the country always collapses.
00:41:14.220 That's kind of a, a modern day on Paul Kennedy, the great British naval historian that wrote a seminal work during President Reagan's, the last years of President Reagan's term called The Rise and Fall Great Powers, which is still an incredibly powerful book and makes the same point.
00:41:33.700 And we are here, folks.
00:41:36.520 The, the debt levels are higher.
00:41:39.060 I think 125 are higher than it was in World War II.
00:41:42.680 Note to self, the vote, the budget they want to vote on tonight, I think takes the debts, I think takes the debt, total debt to GDP up to a higher number.
00:41:52.780 I think it's 135, I had to run, but it's a higher number.
00:41:57.320 Doesn't decrease, it takes it higher.
00:42:01.840 The, the, the, what they're talking about on this, on reality, like a bankrupt company, it's, you know, next day, next day, next day.
00:42:09.080 Where's the cash?
00:42:10.020 How are we cutting costs?
00:42:10.880 All the costs you're hearing cut, when they're talking about trillions of dollars a cut, it's all fantasy.
00:42:16.760 It's all out years.
00:42:17.720 It's Kevin McCarthy.
00:42:19.040 We have so many conservative wins here.
00:42:22.780 It's not true.
00:42:24.200 And now you have the expectations of inflation increasing.
00:42:28.300 And you have this, what, the, the conference board, and they're no friend of Trump, and they're no friend of Maggie, according to a collapse in consumer confidence.
00:42:34.320 But clearly, consumer confidence is starting to come down.
00:42:36.520 President Trump's got to understand, he's going to get no help on this.
00:42:42.660 Just the reality, he's going to get no help.
00:42:44.040 He's going to have to do this himself.
00:42:46.320 That's, he's going to have to do it himself.
00:42:49.420 There's not enough, there's not enough courage up on Capitol Hill for them to do it.
00:42:53.440 If the political class just wants to kick the can down the road.
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00:45:06.920 So we're going to get down into more of this in the afternoon show.
00:45:10.220 I don't think this budget vote is going to happen today.
00:45:12.200 Otherwise, we have to do the ramparts.
00:45:13.620 I don't think it's going to happen.
00:45:15.080 I don't think it's going to happen tomorrow either.
00:45:17.660 I think a lot of work has got to be done.
00:45:19.700 And there are too many moving pieces to this.
00:45:22.720 One thing we do know is they're going to need tax revenue.
00:45:24.760 And they're going to come looking at it from everybody.
00:45:30.560 If you got a letter from the IRS, don't put it in the drawer.
00:45:33.340 Let me give you one piece of advice.
00:45:34.860 Do not put it in the drawer.
00:45:36.620 It's got to be dealt with.
00:45:38.000 You got two ways of dealing with it.
00:45:39.320 Either you rip it open, look at the number, call them.
00:45:41.680 Or what we would recommend, you call Tax Network USA
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00:46:00.620 But the first consultation that can even help you is free.
00:46:04.780 Remember, the fees, the penalties, the interest, it all continues to build.
00:46:09.620 So you can't wish this one away.
00:46:11.180 You got to address it.
00:46:12.780 Two ways to address it, we would strongly recommend
00:46:14.880 at least talk to the Tax Network people before you call the IRS.
00:46:19.000 But you've eventually got to make contact.
00:46:21.280 Tariff's going to go on for March.
00:46:25.360 Right now, Mexico and Canada.
00:46:29.320 Also, the at least 10% tariffs going into China.
00:46:33.200 Chinese Communist Party blowing back again today.
00:46:36.240 They're just not going to take that sitting down.
00:46:37.960 Jace Medical, make sure that you're not hung up in some trade war.
00:46:41.140 When they control 100% of active pharmaceutical ingredients
00:46:46.120 and 80% of generic drugs, India with the other 20%
00:46:49.060 is still dependent upon China for the API.
00:46:52.560 Go to jacemedical.com today.
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00:46:57.800 Go check to that.
00:46:58.880 Go to that site today and just check the information.
00:47:03.100 Drill down.
00:47:03.680 Don't be caught unprepared for that.
00:47:09.320 So a lot going on today at the White House.
00:47:12.420 Also, the United Kingdom's coming this week.
00:47:14.960 You've got these massive budget fights.
00:47:17.660 Doge just announced that the unemployment rate
00:47:19.580 in the district has gone up.
00:47:21.980 They're relating that to Doge.
00:47:24.420 It's going to happen.
00:47:25.260 You've got 2.5 to 3 million federal employees,
00:47:30.300 a large proportion of them in the Washington, D.C. area.
00:47:33.820 I think there's 150,000 just in Northern Virginia alone.
00:47:37.780 This is what the Doge effort part of it's done.
00:47:39.600 And they're at 90,000, I think, to 100,000 right now
00:47:42.280 of the 2.5 to 3 million federal employees.
00:47:45.140 So a long way to go.
00:47:47.540 And this is not going to be done without pain.
00:47:49.640 Let me just reinforce that.
00:47:50.960 It's not going to be done without pain.
00:47:52.780 We have to figure this out.
00:47:56.600 And we have to figure out the tax cuts.
00:47:58.340 Like I said, I just added another trillion dollars
00:48:00.540 of tax cuts for you, the people.
00:48:04.440 Social Security, for the veterans, first responders,
00:48:08.000 troops, all that.
00:48:10.380 Also, no tax on tips and no tax on overtime.
00:48:16.540 That adds up to another trillion dollars.
00:48:18.060 And that's a pure turbocharge, populist tax cut.
00:48:23.060 But you've got to come up with another trillion dollars
00:48:24.940 in cuts and or, wait for it,
00:48:29.860 maybe tax increases somewhere else.
00:48:32.320 Don't know.
00:48:34.240 We'll be drilling down on that one
00:48:35.880 because things are going to have to happen
00:48:38.160 unless you can see significant cuts somewhere else.
00:48:40.940 These cuts are not going to be able to do with a meat axe,
00:48:43.340 even over defense.
00:48:44.480 Got to be very smart how it's done.
00:48:45.860 Mike Lindell, the president gave you a huge shout-out
00:48:51.120 the other day from the stage at CPAC
00:48:53.900 that had to feel pretty good,
00:48:55.800 recognizing all the fights and effort you'd had.
00:48:58.800 Tell me what it felt like when he got that.
00:49:01.260 It was surreal, Steve.
00:49:02.960 And it was really encouraging
00:49:05.980 because our fight's not done.
00:49:07.740 We're going to keep going to secure our election platforms.
00:49:10.100 And for him to let all the media know too that he said that we're all on the same page
00:49:18.560 as far as having secure elections, that the 2020 election was stolen.
00:49:24.060 One of the things he said, it's okay to say it now.
00:49:27.580 And I shouted it out right at CPAC.
00:49:29.940 Of course it was stolen.
00:49:31.280 And it was very, it was a lot different.
00:49:37.380 You know, he'd always shout my pillow out at rallies, you know, being a great marketer.
00:49:41.060 But this was different.
00:49:42.020 This was thanking for, thanking myself.
00:49:45.020 And basically, that's everybody that's helped with this election.
00:49:48.720 And I was, it was very humbling and very, I was really excited.
00:49:53.000 Tell me about, you spent a couple hours, you spent a couple hours over the White House
00:50:01.700 without giving up confidences of the president.
00:50:04.600 What was your day like over there?
00:50:06.320 It was, it was, it was about maybe 45 minutes, I suppose, an hour in the Oval Office.
00:50:12.100 And then I was in the White House for quite a while.
00:50:14.300 And I was in the, in the briefing room and, and where the press is.
00:50:18.440 And, but with him, we talked about the elections, even the 2024 election here, you know, too
00:50:25.440 big to rig.
00:50:26.180 And, and I brought him all the stuff that we, for his administration, he called, called
00:50:31.540 the people in to give them all the stuff that they would need to secure our elections.
00:50:36.080 That we, remember, we're four years ahead of anybody even looking into anything.
00:50:40.660 So we, you know, anything, any help they needed.
00:50:43.800 I said, if anybody, if you have any, any part of the administration needs help with the
00:50:47.800 elections, because he wants to get to same day voting, paper ballots, hand counted, and
00:50:53.040 voter ID.
00:50:54.560 He's, he's said it numerous times.
00:50:56.260 In fact, he, he said it in the governor's meeting right before I, right before I went
00:51:00.400 in the Oval Office.
00:51:01.260 In fact, the media, when I came out, she goes, yeah, the president mentioned paper ballots,
00:51:07.020 hand counted in the, in the governor's meeting.
00:51:09.000 I suppose you talked to him beforehand.
00:51:10.380 I said, no, lady, he did that all on his own.
00:51:13.080 I said, mine was after, so they couldn't do a little hit job there.
00:51:17.240 And I brought him a couple other things that would affect the whole country that has nothing
00:51:21.560 to do with the elections.
00:51:22.540 And, Steve, I was very encouraged because two of the things we talked about, they were
00:51:28.560 already doing it.
00:51:29.720 I mean, this administration, they're just like, I was very, I'm going, wow, you're already
00:51:35.140 looking into this.
00:51:36.400 And, and, um, um, so I was very encouraged that the, uh, of all the things they're, they're
00:51:41.840 not getting done, but all the things they're going to be doing.
00:51:43.960 Yeah.
00:51:44.700 And Tina Peters, all that.
00:51:46.380 Yeah.
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